Possible identity of Daniel voice

2013-10-04 Thread Robin Christopherson
Chris
I’m afraid she’s not even found in iOS7 – we only have Daniel, nice though he 
is. If we want Siri to understand our British accents we need to keep it on 
British English and he’s the only choice unlike in the US where you have male 
or female. I think it would be nice to be able to choose the gender of Siri.
One last thing I’d like, putting aside for a second all the fantastic things 
that iOS7 has done for us and sounding ungrateful, is the built-in weather 
functionality to be able to give me temperatures in degree Celsius as I always 
have to do the take away 30 and then halve it process in my head. And I know it 
should be minus 32 then divide by 9 and times by 5 but my head isn’t up to that.
Thanks, Robin.

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Re: iPhone 5 cases

2013-10-04 Thread Pablo Morales

Hi Jennie
Thanks for your answers. Please don't pay attention to my last eMail.
Thanks
Pablo

- Original Message - 
From: Jennie Facer jennie.fa...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: iPhone 5 cases


I can answer your questions about the Life Proof. There is a little door 
that you open with your fingernail to charge your phone. There is also a 
little screw that you use to get to your headphones.


Jenn

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:55 AM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Hi Donna , and Sieghard.
I have a couple of questions about these cases.
1. about the Lifeproof. It is so big? when you said that it is a
waterproof  case, it means that it is a waterproof ? if it is true,
how we can recharge the iPhone?
2. Donna, I am totally blind, but i like colors. The cases are black? all 
black?

what about prices?






On 10/3/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
Hi Pablo,



Check Donna's recommendation, the Otterbox Defender, or you can also
consider the Lifeproof case which is a waterproof case at the same time.



Regards,

Sieghard





From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Donna
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 3:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 5 cases



The OtterBox Defender case has all of the features that you are looking
for.
I have this case for my iPhone 5 and love it!



Donna


On Oct 3, 2013, at 5:07 AM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com
wrote:

HI all.

I am looking cases, for the iPhones 5, 5c and 5s with the following
features.

1. It should be hard, to protect the iDevices of hits, crash, and that 
kind

of accidents.

2. Cases that protect the screen of the phone. Something that can 
protect

the iPhone of scratches.

3. The cases should have a kind of clip, I need to hold the iDevice  in 
my

belt, or somewhere if I need to use my hands.

any body knows any kind of cases with this features?

Thanks



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Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Pablo Morales
Well, it could be ridiculous for you. Even though, when I see that the IOs 
is downloaded automatically to my iPhone, without my agreement,  and it is 
filling space in my iPhone, and is no way to remove that  information stored 
in my iPhone, I don't see so ridiculous my email. Either apple.
When an IOs update appear, every body is looking for improvements in the 
operated system, we are not looking for bugs, or steps back in our devices. 
So I don't see so ridiculous my email. Less when the apple devices are the 
more expensive devices, no when apple is a company that sales iDevices for a 
price that for the most part of the people on the world, are impossible.
When you say that apple give us the right to use their software, but at the 
same time they are storing data in my iPhone with out my permission, and the 
only way to make that space free is installing the IOs 7, is not a freedom, 
it is not a right the god apple gives to us. This is a command from apple.

so I don't see so ridiculous  my email.
when we install a new IOs, every body is waiting improvements, not bugs, and 
not bunches of bugs as IOs 7  has. Even though, as you say, apple give us 
the right to use their software, thing that is not a right, it is a command, 
but their software is not working well, but we are not able to go back to 
the IOs that was working better, it is a right?
No, it is not a right, it is a command.So, I don't see my email, ridiculous 
.
Do not forget something. The device that you use, wasn't free. You paid for 
that, and you paid money that is not a little bit of money, it was money 
that could be the payment for  a whole year of work in many countries  on 
the world. Money that you paid, and it is money that   you paid because you 
were buying a good device. No a cheaper device.

So, I don't see my email as you said. ridiculous .
But let me tell  you in my opinion what is ridiculous .
ridiculous  is when we pay to a company that created a good software, a good 
hardware, hardware and software that made a difference in your life. But 
later they changed the software, and you start to get problems with many 
things in your device, but you fill ok, because every IOs bring bugs. It is 
ridiculous , because you didn't pay with money cracked, you didn't paid it 
with  a check without funds, you paid it with money, good money.
What right are you talking about. They installed the data in my iPhone, 
without my agreement, they offert a good IOs, but it brings a lot of bugs, 
and they don't allow us to come back to the software that they created, that 
works better is a right?

No, it is not a right.
On Oct 3, 2013, at 10:02 PM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Pablo your email is ridiculous. first of all no one said you had to
update your software. That was your choice. Second of all you don't
own the software you own the phone and Apple is giving you the right
to use their software. The software works quite well. Yes a few bugs
exist but you should have been aware of them when you chose to use the
software.


On 10/3/13, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:
So is it running slow on the 5s as well?
---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played 
on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on 
my


website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message -
From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com
To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 
6


holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.


Hi,

I haven’t seen apps take 5 seconds to open on an iPhone 4S using IOS 7. 
Is


it slower than my iPhone 5?  Yes.  But, I think 5 seconds to open most 
apps


is a bit of an exaggeration.  Sure, some apps might take a while, the 
more

resource intensive ones, but, definitely not the majority of apps.

JMO.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 2, 2013, at 7:01 PM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Also, 5 seconds is too much. We have to use the iPhone when we are on 
the


streets, when we are going to the store, when we get a ride, and we need
the gps, So 5  seconds is too much. Now, if in the newer versions of
iPhone takes around 2 seconds, I would like to know, why?
The new things of IOs 7 is enough to make slower the phones?
maybe the graphic appearance?


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troysulliva...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing 
iOS


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Re: iPhone 5 cases

2013-10-04 Thread Lea Langley
Hi all, I am looking for cases like the life proof or OtterBox defender cases 
which will be for my iPhone 4s which I will get soon. I would like to know if 
there is a case though that has a strap so that I could put it around my neck 
or somewhere else if I'm not wearing something that can use a clip such as 
address. Thank you all very much for your help is much appreciated God bless, 
Wren sorry all, that is supposed to be a dress not address, and also I said 
iPhone 4s but I really knit iPhone 5s so sorry. Thank you again for your 
patience and for your help. God bless, Wren

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 3, 2013, at 6:56 PM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Jennie
 Thanks for your answers. Please don't pay attention to my last eMail.
 Thanks
 Pablo
 
 - Original Message - From: Jennie Facer jennie.fa...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 6:45 PM
 Subject: Re: iPhone 5 cases
 
 
 I can answer your questions about the Life Proof. There is a little door 
 that you open with your fingernail to charge your phone. There is also a 
 little screw that you use to get to your headphones.
 
 Jenn
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Oct 3, 2013, at 9:55 AM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Donna , and Sieghard.
 I have a couple of questions about these cases.
 1. about the Lifeproof. It is so big? when you said that it is a
 waterproof  case, it means that it is a waterproof ? if it is true,
 how we can recharge the iPhone?
 2. Donna, I am totally blind, but i like colors. The cases are black? all 
 black?
 what about prices?
 
 
 
 
 
 On 10/3/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 Hi Pablo,
 
 
 
 Check Donna's recommendation, the Otterbox Defender, or you can also
 consider the Lifeproof case which is a waterproof case at the same time.
 
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Sieghard
 
 
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Donna
 Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 3:28 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iPhone 5 cases
 
 
 
 The OtterBox Defender case has all of the features that you are looking
 for.
 I have this case for my iPhone 5 and love it!
 
 
 
 Donna
 
 
 On Oct 3, 2013, at 5:07 AM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 HI all.
 
 I am looking cases, for the iPhones 5, 5c and 5s with the following
 features.
 
 1. It should be hard, to protect the iDevices of hits, crash, and that kind
 of accidents.
 
 2. Cases that protect the screen of the phone. Something that can protect
 the iPhone of scratches.
 
 3. The cases should have a kind of clip, I need to hold the iDevice  in my
 belt, or somewhere if I need to use my hands.
 
 any body knows any kind of cases with this features?
 
 Thanks
 
 
 
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Re: Editing contacts in iOS7

2013-10-04 Thread Gary Petraccaro
Thank you for doing that.  Had I known what I now know, I would not have 
purchased my phone or would have waited until I had bought a 32 Gb phone.


- Original Message - 
From: Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 9:17 AM
Subject: Re: Editing contacts in iOS7



Ha, yesterday at night, I called apple.com 1800 myapple. I told them
the problems that voice over gives to use, and they transfer my called
to IOs support department. After 30 min explaining them this kind of
issues, and after I told them about the download automatically, they
were so apologized. They told me that they are so apologized, and that
some one of the management support will call me. Even though, It made
me understand that apple is not aware pretty clear about the problems
of IOs 7. It is something that surprised me so much, because or the
beta tester didn't check the IOs, or just apple didn't pay attention
to the beta testers, and just they released the IOs pretty fast to get
it working when the new iPhone 5s appears.
Also, the tech support told me that they are receiving hundreds of
calls every day, but apple will fix this issues. Apple understood that
they can not download anything to our devices, with out our
permission. But we need to contact them to tell them what is going on
with Ios 7. The accessibility in iPhone x  is not working how it has
to work. The Ios 7 made so slower the iPhone 4, and is a lot of things
that are really difficult to to now, the way to work, is not constant
always.

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ringtones

2013-10-04 Thread Roger Frischenmeyer
Hi, is there a way to get additional ringtones without having to sync 
through itunes? I can't get my itunes account to sync with my new 
account which is no big deal other than I can't get my ringtones I used 
to have.


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Re: Editing contacts in iOS7

2013-10-04 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

If you’ve recently purchased a 5S or 5C, you can just return it.  I don’t think 
its been 14 days yet.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 4, 2013, at 5:30 AM, Gary Petraccaro garypet...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thank you for doing that.  Had I known what I now know, I would not have 
 purchased my phone or would have waited until I had bought a 32 Gb phone.
 
 - Original Message - From: Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 9:17 AM
 Subject: Re: Editing contacts in iOS7
 
 
 Ha, yesterday at night, I called apple.com 1800 myapple. I told them
 the problems that voice over gives to use, and they transfer my called
 to IOs support department. After 30 min explaining them this kind of
 issues, and after I told them about the download automatically, they
 were so apologized. They told me that they are so apologized, and that
 some one of the management support will call me. Even though, It made
 me understand that apple is not aware pretty clear about the problems
 of IOs 7. It is something that surprised me so much, because or the
 beta tester didn't check the IOs, or just apple didn't pay attention
 to the beta testers, and just they released the IOs pretty fast to get
 it working when the new iPhone 5s appears.
 Also, the tech support told me that they are receiving hundreds of
 calls every day, but apple will fix this issues. Apple understood that
 they can not download anything to our devices, with out our
 permission. But we need to contact them to tell them what is going on
 with Ios 7. The accessibility in iPhone x  is not working how it has
 to work. The Ios 7 made so slower the iPhone 4, and is a lot of things
 that are really difficult to to now, the way to work, is not constant
 always.
 
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Re: Which recording app to use.

2013-10-04 Thread Annie Skov Nielsen
Hi.

This rev recording app, where can I find that, I have no luck if I search rev 
recording.

Best regards Annie.
Den Oct 3, 2013 kl. 2:14 AM skrev Chris Judd chrischas0...@charter.net:

 I am using the rev recording app.
 It is an excellent recording app, and you can choose the type of recording 
 you want.
 It can be high-quality, or low-quality, and you can also upload your 
 recordings to dropbox, and other apps.
 It is also very accessible with voiceover.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 2, 2013, at 4:14 PM, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org wrote:
 
 It was purchased by Roland with a new update to be out soon after the 7.0
 iOS. Whether or not it will be accessible is anyone's guess.
 
 Neal
 
 
 -Original Message-
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 Of Annie Skov Nielsen
 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 5:47 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Which recording app to use.
 
 Hi.
 
 I have been using fire 2 for recording with a stereo mic attached to my
 IPhone. I wonder if fire 2 has stopped beeing updated, if so which app are
 people using instead of fire 2. As I understand it fire 2 has been sold, but
 I understood that it would still be updated.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 
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Re: weird issue when I double tap on IPhone to stop, or play something.

2013-10-04 Thread Carol Pearson
I wonder if this is how Apple thinks it should work? Perhaps they'd call it a 
feature rather than a bug. Anyone else think this might be the case?




carol P
Sent from my iPod

On 4 Oct 2013, at 04:56 AM, Chris Judd chrischas0...@charter.net wrote:

Hey all,

I have noticed something that has been happening recently.
I have the latest update to iOS 7, and when ever I pause something, and then I 
play something else, and do the 2 finger double tap to stop something new, what 
I paused earlier resumes.
For example, I went to sirius xm, and started listening to a station.  Then, I 
did a 2 finger double tap to pause the audio for a moment.
then, I switched to another app, and played something else, and then when I 
tried to stop that app, my spot in the sirius xm app resumed.
Anyone else experiencing this problem, or know of how I can get rid of this?
Thanks,
Chris 
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Re: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with UbiDisk

2013-10-04 Thread Robert Doc Wright
I just tried this morning and there is no problem in getting the book from 
my pc to ubidisk but I have tried 3 times tapping share, open in, bard 
mobile and so far all it does is open the bard mobile app and nothing else.
***
  When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It 
matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.

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From: Rob musicmaker...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with UbiDisk


Did you get it to work?
Now that Bard is back I can use UbiDisk to export books to Bard again.

Thanks,
Rob
You can leave me a voice mail or fax at
206-426-3505
God is good all the time,  All the time God is good

On 10/2/2013 4:35 AM, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
 I am doing  1 zipped book at a time. the same zipped file I downloded from
 BARD.
 ***
When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It
 matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.

 - Original Message -
 From: Rob musicmaker...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 9:41 PM
 Subject: Re: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with UbiDisk


 Are you transfering a Bard book?
 MP3 files want work. and only try one zipped bard book at a time.

 On 10/1/2013 6:12 AM, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
 Rob it worked the first time and now it doesn't seem to work for me..
 Here are my steps

 After using easy push to send a file to my iDeviceI then go to the
 download
 section inside ubidisk  and tap more info on the file I want
 I then tap share  then open in and chose bard mobile which brings up 
 the
 bard mobile screen
 but I am not finding the new book.  What have I forgotten?  I thought I
 remembered seeing a progress bar the first time when it worked but not
 this
 time.
 ***
 When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, 
 It
 matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.

 - Original Message -
 From: Rob musicmaker...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 4:17 PM
 Subject: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with UbiDisk


 Transfering books from PC using Wi-Fi.

  I use a free app called UbiDisk.
  Easily transfer files from PC to your I Devices.

  It even comes with a free windows program with a context menu 
 allowing
  you to select a file on your PC, press the applications key then
 choose
  easy push to send that file to your iPhone.
  Remember the Bard books must be zipped before sending to the iPhone.

  UbiDisk is great and has many uses!

 http://www.applevis.com/apps/ios/utilities/ubidisk-file-manager-downloader-easypush
 Be sure to install the Easy Push program for Windows.
 its very easy and convenient.

 Now here is how to send books or any other files from your PC to the
 iPhone, iPod or iPad.
 On your PC find the file you want to send to the iPhone.
 press the applications key
 choose send with easy push
 the easy push window will open.
 the list will be empty untill you start the Ubidisk app on the iPhone.
 then your iPhone will appear on the list.
 select it and press enter.
 your iPhone will ask if you want to accept the file.
 tap on accept to start the transfer
 when transfer is finished, tap on done.
 Now back on the ubidisk main window choose local files
 Once the book is sent to UbiDisk, find it, most likely to be in the
 Downloads folder if you used the easy push.

 right beneath the file name is a more info followed by the file name
 button. double tap to open it
 then look for the action button,
 then choose open in
 Bard will be on that list.
 good luck!

 Thanks,
 Rob
 You can leave me a voice mail or fax at
 206-426-3505
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Re: weird issue when I double tap on IPhone to stop, or play something.

2013-10-04 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

I doubt that very much.  Since this isn’t consistent, I’m pretty sure its a bug.

Ricardo Walker
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On Oct 4, 2013, at 7:27 AM, Carol Pearson carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
wrote:

 I wonder if this is how Apple thinks it should work? Perhaps they'd call it a 
 feature rather than a bug. Anyone else think this might be the case?
 
 
 
 
 carol P
 Sent from my iPod
 
 On 4 Oct 2013, at 04:56 AM, Chris Judd chrischas0...@charter.net wrote:
 
 Hey all,
 
 I have noticed something that has been happening recently.
 I have the latest update to iOS 7, and when ever I pause something, and then 
 I play something else, and do the 2 finger double tap to stop something new, 
 what I paused earlier resumes.
 For example, I went to sirius xm, and started listening to a station.  Then, 
 I did a 2 finger double tap to pause the audio for a moment.
 then, I switched to another app, and played something else, and then when I 
 tried to stop that app, my spot in the sirius xm app resumed.
 Anyone else experiencing this problem, or know of how I can get rid of this?
 Thanks,
 Chris 
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Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi Pablo, you might consider the glass of water analogy. Is it 
half-empty for you or half-full for you? Are you a half-empty thinker? 
It certainly seems like it by the tone of your messages. I'm more of a 
half-full thinker. yes, there are bugs with new iOS releases, but 
seriously dude, are the bugs worse than what you gain? And if that is 
true, then why did you update? I'm not talking about the fact that Apple 
downloaded the iOS on your phone to be ready, I'm talking about your 
willingness to choose to instal, choose to agree to the terms that I bet 
you didn't read, and then choose to use iOS7. Apple didn't force your 
fingers to tap the install and the agree button. And in face, there are 
two agree buttons just to make sure. So, my friend, you had a choice to 
upgrade. Now live with it. if this sounds harsh, so be it. If you look 
at the glass as half-full you will see that despite the bugs, iOS 7 does 
have a lot of nice things to offer. Also, the bugs will get worked out 
given some time. yes, Apple may have pushed it out quickly, but 
seriously, the majority of the millions of users who use the iPhone 
daily love it fine and don't complain about it because it's what they want.


This isn't a personal attack on you, obviously you have the right to 
express your opinion, and that's what I'm doing as well, but maybe you 
should consider that there is good in the new release and not all bad. 
You did the exact same thing with iOS 6 when you upgraded to it. So, 
this leads me to believe that you always think negatively. If you hate 
Apple and iPhones so much, why do you even bother having one?



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On 10/4/2013 3:43 AM, Pablo Morales wrote:

Well, it could be ridiculous for you. Even though, when I see that the
IOs is downloaded automatically to my iPhone, without my agreement,  and
it is filling space in my iPhone, and is no way to remove that
information stored in my iPhone, I don't see so ridiculous my email.
Either apple.
When an IOs update appear, every body is looking for improvements in the
operated system, we are not looking for bugs, or steps back in our
devices. So I don't see so ridiculous my email. Less when the apple
devices are the more expensive devices, no when apple is a company that
sales iDevices for a price that for the most part of the people on the
world, are impossible.
When you say that apple give us the right to use their software, but at
the same time they are storing data in my iPhone with out my permission,
and the only way to make that space free is installing the IOs 7, is not
a freedom, it is not a right the god apple gives to us. This is a
command from apple.
so I don't see so ridiculous  my email.
when we install a new IOs, every body is waiting improvements, not bugs,
and not bunches of bugs as IOs 7  has. Even though, as you say, apple
give us the right to use their software, thing that is not a right, it
is a command, but their software is not working well, but we are not
able to go back to the IOs that was working better, it is a right?
No, it is not a right, it is a command.So, I don't see my email,
ridiculous .
Do not forget something. The device that you use, wasn't free. You paid
for that, and you paid money that is not a little bit of money, it was
money that could be the payment for  a whole year of work in many
countries  on the world. Money that you paid, and it is money that   you
paid because you were buying a good device. No a cheaper device.
So, I don't see my email as you said. ridiculous .
But let me tell  you in my opinion what is ridiculous .
ridiculous  is when we pay to a company that created a good software, a
good hardware, hardware and software that made a difference in your
life. But later they changed the software, and you start to get problems
with many things in your device, but you fill ok, because every IOs
bring bugs. It is ridiculous , because you didn't pay with money
cracked, you didn't paid it with  a check without funds, you paid it
with money, good money.
What right are you talking about. They installed the data in my iPhone,
without my agreement, they offert a good IOs, but it brings a lot of
bugs, and they don't allow us to come back to the software that they
created, that works better is a right?
No, it is not a right.

On Oct 3, 2013, at 10:02 PM, John Diakogeorgiou
jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:

Pablo your email is ridiculous. first of all no one said you had to
update your software. That was your choice. Second of all you don't
own the software you own the phone and Apple is giving you the right
to use their software. The software works quite well. Yes a few bugs
exist but you should have been aware of them when you chose to use the
software.


On 10/3/13, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:
So 

Enhanced voice and rotor question

2013-10-04 Thread Shane clark
Hello everyone,
So I downloaded be enhanced voice on my iPhone, however, it doesn't sound to me 
any different at all from the compact voice… Is there any difference in these 
voices? I didn't hear any so I turned enhanced voice off. I did this under 
dialects and language… Did I do something wrong, or is it supposed to sound 
same as the compact voice?
also, is there a way to take language out of the rotor? Because I see as I turn 
the rotor, it shows up now.
Thanks

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Enhanced voice and rotor question

2013-10-04 Thread Isaac Hebert
There is a way to take a language out of the rotor go to settings
general accessibility voiceover on then rotor next look for language
then double tap it to take it out of the rotor. The premium voices has
a huge difference then the compact voice.

On 10/4/13, Shane clark hshanecl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello everyone,
 So I downloaded be enhanced voice on my iPhone, however, it doesn't sound to
 me any different at all from the compact voice… Is there any difference in
 these voices? I didn't hear any so I turned enhanced voice off. I did this
 under dialects and language… Did I do something wrong, or is it supposed to
 sound same as the compact voice?
 also, is there a way to take language out of the rotor? Because I see as I
 turn the rotor, it shows up now.
 Thanks

 Sent from my iPhone

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RE: Volume Buttons, Snooze and Stop Alarm?

2013-10-04 Thread Rose Combs
If the phone is unlocked I see an OK button for the alarm, if not, unlocked
I don't see that and then it seems to go to snooze, I then unlock the phone
and when it goes off again I find the OK button.  Drives me a bit crazy
because if I wanted snooze on I would have set it that way.  



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kliphton
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 7:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Volume Buttons, Snooze and Stop Alarm?

There use to be an okay button while the alarm was going off.  But I have
only seen it a couple of times, so I guess the unlock botton will have to do
to stop the alarm.


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On Oct 3, 2013, at 8:11 AM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com
wrote:

Hmmm, I remember pressing the home button, but not the unlock button. I
pressed the home button at some point to examine the alarm screen, then
locked it again. Something in this whole process shut off the alarm, I know
that much.

thanks,
Teresa
 On Oct 3, 2013, at 4:56 AM, Thom Spittle thom3...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What I have noticed is that any of the hardware buttons snooze the 
 alarm. To Turn off the alarm, you have to hit the unlock area of the
screen.
 
 Best,
 Thom
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
 Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 12:24 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Volume Buttons, Snooze and Stop Alarm?
 
 Hi, all,
 
 I'm sorry, but I couldn't find anything about this in the IOS manual. 
 I
 took a
 nap and set an alarm today, but my head was a little too muzzy to 
 register which volume buttons activate snooze and disable the alarm. 
 I'm guessing the down button for stopping it, and the up button for 
 snooze. I've only noticed this in IOS7. Can anyone else  confirm all of
this?
 
 Thanks,
 Teresa
 
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Re: Enhanced voice and rotor question

2013-10-04 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I'm not sure what voice you're using, but I definitely hear a difference 
between the US English enhanced voice and the compact voice.


On 10/04/2013 08:35 AM, Shane clark wrote:

Hello everyone,
So I downloaded be enhanced voice on my iPhone, however, it doesn't sound to me 
any different at all from the compact voice… Is there any difference in these 
voices? I didn't hear any so I turned enhanced voice off. I did this under 
dialects and language… Did I do something wrong, or is it supposed to sound 
same as the compact voice?
also, is there a way to take language out of the rotor? Because I see as I turn 
the rotor, it shows up now.
Thanks

Sent from my iPhone

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RE: iphone 5c questions

2013-10-04 Thread Rose Combs
Funny, mine is at the upper right-hand corner as is my husbands, I use a 4S
and he has a 5.  


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Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 4:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iphone 5c questions

Interesting. The lock orientation option is in the middle of the options
listed in my control Center. I'm using a 4S.

On 10/03/2013 06:29 PM, Jennie Facer wrote:
 Hi Roger,

 I am going to start another message to reflect the other topic.

 To get to portrait lock in 5C, you touch the status bar at the top of the
screen. Now flick up to go to the control center. Now the lock orientation
will be the last option of this center screen.

 I will answer your touch typing question in another message.

 Jenn

 Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 3, 2013, at 5:17 PM, Roger Frischenmeyer
thejayhawk...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Hi, where do I find portrait lock on a 5c and also how do I change to 
 touch typing? Thanks Roger

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RE: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with UbiDisk

2013-10-04 Thread Rose Combs
Bard is back?  I did not hear that!  


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Of Rob
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 8:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with UbiDisk

Did you get it to work?
Now that Bard is back I can use UbiDisk to export books to Bard again.

Thanks,
Rob
You can leave me a voice mail or fax at
206-426-3505
God is good all the time,  All the time God is good

On 10/2/2013 4:35 AM, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
 I am doing  1 zipped book at a time. the same zipped file I downloded 
 from BARD.
 ***
When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in 
 return, It matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards
forthcoming.

 - Original Message -
 From: Rob musicmaker...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 9:41 PM
 Subject: Re: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with 
 UbiDisk


 Are you transfering a Bard book?
 MP3 files want work. and only try one zipped bard book at a time.

 On 10/1/2013 6:12 AM, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
 Rob it worked the first time and now it doesn't seem to work for me..
 Here are my steps

 After using easy push to send a file to my iDeviceI then go to the 
 download section inside ubidisk  and tap more info on the file I want 
 I then tap share  then open in and chose bard mobile which brings 
 up the bard mobile screen but I am not finding the new book.  What 
 have I forgotten?  I thought I remembered seeing a progress bar the 
 first time when it worked but not this time.
 ***
 When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in 
 return, It matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards
forthcoming.

 - Original Message -
 From: Rob musicmaker...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 4:17 PM
 Subject: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with 
 UbiDisk


 Transfering books from PC using Wi-Fi.

  I use a free app called UbiDisk.
  Easily transfer files from PC to your I Devices.

  It even comes with a free windows program with a context menu
allowing
  you to select a file on your PC, press the applications key then 
 choose
  easy push to send that file to your iPhone.
  Remember the Bard books must be zipped before sending to the iPhone.

  UbiDisk is great and has many uses!

 http://www.applevis.com/apps/ios/utilities/ubidisk-file-manager-downl
 oader-easypush Be sure to install the Easy Push program for Windows.
 its very easy and convenient.

 Now here is how to send books or any other files from your PC to the 
 iPhone, iPod or iPad.
 On your PC find the file you want to send to the iPhone.
 press the applications key
 choose send with easy push
 the easy push window will open.
 the list will be empty untill you start the Ubidisk app on the iPhone.
 then your iPhone will appear on the list.
 select it and press enter.
 your iPhone will ask if you want to accept the file.
 tap on accept to start the transfer
 when transfer is finished, tap on done.
 Now back on the ubidisk main window choose local files Once the book 
 is sent to UbiDisk, find it, most likely to be in the Downloads 
 folder if you used the easy push.

 right beneath the file name is a more info followed by the file name 
 button. double tap to open it then look for the action button, then 
 choose open in
 Bard will be on that list.
 good luck!

 Thanks,
 Rob
 You can leave me a voice mail or fax at
 206-426-3505
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RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Neal Ewers
Raul. Nice post, and a question. Are there any ways in which Apple would
load a new iOS without someone pressing the I agree button or other buttons
as well? To hear people tell it, this magically happens in the night with no
knowledge of the user. Yes? No? Can we lay this one to rest at last, but
then I think that's what your previous message actually did. I was just
curious if this had actually happened to anyone though I cannot think that
it has. 

Neal
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

Hi Pablo, you might consider the glass of water analogy. Is it half-empty
for you or half-full for you? Are you a half-empty thinker? 
It certainly seems like it by the tone of your messages. I'm more of a
half-full thinker. yes, there are bugs with new iOS releases, but seriously
dude, are the bugs worse than what you gain? And if that is true, then why
did you update? I'm not talking about the fact that Apple downloaded the iOS
on your phone to be ready, I'm talking about your willingness to choose to
instal, choose to agree to the terms that I bet you didn't read, and then
choose to use iOS7. Apple didn't force your fingers to tap the install and
the agree button. And in face, there are two agree buttons just to make
sure. So, my friend, you had a choice to upgrade. Now live with it. if this
sounds harsh, so be it. If you look at the glass as half-full you will see
that despite the bugs, iOS 7 does have a lot of nice things to offer. Also,
the bugs will get worked out given some time. yes, Apple may have pushed it
out quickly, but seriously, the majority of the millions of users who use
the iPhone daily love it fine and don't complain about it because it's what
they want.

This isn't a personal attack on you, obviously you have the right to express
your opinion, and that's what I'm doing as well, but maybe you should
consider that there is good in the new release and not all bad. 
You did the exact same thing with iOS 6 when you upgraded to it. So, this
leads me to believe that you always think negatively. If you hate Apple and
iPhones so much, why do you even bother having one?


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On 10/4/2013 3:43 AM, Pablo Morales wrote:
 Well, it could be ridiculous for you. Even though, when I see that the 
 IOs is downloaded automatically to my iPhone, without my agreement,  
 and it is filling space in my iPhone, and is no way to remove that 
 information stored in my iPhone, I don't see so ridiculous my email.
 Either apple.
 When an IOs update appear, every body is looking for improvements in 
 the operated system, we are not looking for bugs, or steps back in our 
 devices. So I don't see so ridiculous my email. Less when the apple 
 devices are the more expensive devices, no when apple is a company 
 that sales iDevices for a price that for the most part of the people 
 on the world, are impossible.
 When you say that apple give us the right to use their software, but 
 at the same time they are storing data in my iPhone with out my 
 permission, and the only way to make that space free is installing the 
 IOs 7, is not a freedom, it is not a right the god apple gives to us. 
 This is a command from apple.
 so I don't see so ridiculous  my email.
 when we install a new IOs, every body is waiting improvements, not 
 bugs, and not bunches of bugs as IOs 7  has. Even though, as you say, 
 apple give us the right to use their software, thing that is not a 
 right, it is a command, but their software is not working well, but we 
 are not able to go back to the IOs that was working better, it is a right?
 No, it is not a right, it is a command.So, I don't see my email, 
 ridiculous .
 Do not forget something. The device that you use, wasn't free. You 
 paid for that, and you paid money that is not a little bit of money, 
 it was money that could be the payment for  a whole year of work in many
 countries  on the world. Money that you paid, and it is money that   you
 paid because you were buying a good device. No a cheaper device.
 So, I don't see my email as you said. ridiculous .
 But let me tell  you in my opinion what is ridiculous .
 ridiculous  is when we pay to a company that created a good software, 
 a good hardware, hardware and software that made a difference in your 
 life. But later they changed the software, and you start to get 
 problems with many things in your device, but you fill ok, because 
 every IOs bring bugs. It is ridiculous , because you didn't pay with 
 money cracked, you didn't paid it with  a check without funds, you 
 paid it with 

Re: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with UbiDisk

2013-10-04 Thread Christopher Chaltain
this was the first I heard of it as well, but if you go to the BARD 
site, you'll see that it's true, at least for now.


On 10/04/2013 09:05 AM, Rose Combs wrote:

Bard is back?  I did not hear that!


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rob
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 8:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with UbiDisk

Did you get it to work?
Now that Bard is back I can use UbiDisk to export books to Bard again.

Thanks,
Rob
You can leave me a voice mail or fax at
206-426-3505
God is good all the time,  All the time God is good

On 10/2/2013 4:35 AM, Robert Doc Wright wrote:

I am doing  1 zipped book at a time. the same zipped file I downloded
from BARD.
***
When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in
return, It matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards

forthcoming.


- Original Message -
From: Rob musicmaker...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with
UbiDisk


Are you transfering a Bard book?
MP3 files want work. and only try one zipped bard book at a time.

On 10/1/2013 6:12 AM, Robert Doc Wright wrote:

Rob it worked the first time and now it doesn't seem to work for me..
Here are my steps

After using easy push to send a file to my iDeviceI then go to the
download section inside ubidisk  and tap more info on the file I want
I then tap share  then open in and chose bard mobile which brings
up the bard mobile screen but I am not finding the new book.  What
have I forgotten?  I thought I remembered seeing a progress bar the
first time when it worked but not this time.
***
 When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in
return, It matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards

forthcoming.


- Original Message -
From: Rob musicmaker...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 4:17 PM
Subject: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with
UbiDisk


Transfering books from PC using Wi-Fi.

  I use a free app called UbiDisk.
  Easily transfer files from PC to your I Devices.

  It even comes with a free windows program with a context menu

allowing

  you to select a file on your PC, press the applications key then
choose
  easy push to send that file to your iPhone.
  Remember the Bard books must be zipped before sending to the iPhone.

  UbiDisk is great and has many uses!

http://www.applevis.com/apps/ios/utilities/ubidisk-file-manager-downl
oader-easypush Be sure to install the Easy Push program for Windows.
its very easy and convenient.

Now here is how to send books or any other files from your PC to the
iPhone, iPod or iPad.
On your PC find the file you want to send to the iPhone.
press the applications key
choose send with easy push
the easy push window will open.
the list will be empty untill you start the Ubidisk app on the iPhone.
then your iPhone will appear on the list.
select it and press enter.
your iPhone will ask if you want to accept the file.
tap on accept to start the transfer
when transfer is finished, tap on done.
Now back on the ubidisk main window choose local files Once the book
is sent to UbiDisk, find it, most likely to be in the Downloads
folder if you used the easy push.

right beneath the file name is a more info followed by the file name
button. double tap to open it then look for the action button, then
choose open in
Bard will be on that list.
good luck!

Thanks,
Rob
You can leave me a voice mail or fax at
206-426-3505
God is good all the time,  All the time God is good





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Re: iToons

2013-10-04 Thread Alan Paganelli
You can also create play lists directly from your iPhone. When you then sync 
your iPhone, the play list you created on your iPhone will be synced in 
iTunes as well.

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Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.


Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 2:28 PM
Subject: RE: iToons



Lelia, I find the easiest way to control what is synced from iTunes to my
iPhone 5 is to use playlists. You can create as many playlists as you want
giving them appropriate names and selecting the tracks that are included 
in

them. When you connect your iPhone to your computer with iTunes running,
make sure the sidebar is running by pressing ctrl + s and placing focus on
your iPhone in the sidebar. On the main iTunes screen, buttons or labels
will be presented at the top and you should tab to the music one. At the 
top

of the screen just below those buttons is a tick box labeled Sync Music
followed by the number of songs on your device. Just below this are two
radio buttons and you should select the second one which is labeled 
Selected

playlists, artists, albums, and genres. Under this are sections for
Playlists, Artists, Genres, and Albums with the first two on top of the 
next

two. Each of these sections contains lists within each category where you
can tick those items you specifically want to sync. For example, the
Playlists section will list all the playlists you've created and you can
mark those you want to sync.

Hopefully, this will get you started but post back if you have more
questions.

Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Lelia Struve
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 2:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iToons

Hi, so I have an iPhone 4 s and have the latest IOS update as well as
the latest iToons update, here is my issue.

Its almost like my iToons music library has a mind of its own, I want
it to only sinc the songs that I've checked but for some reason its
giving me a boat load more of my library.  For example I have only
checked a few songs from my Mariah Kerri album but it gives me the
whole album, or it doesn't give me anything. What am I doing wrong?
I've selected sinc music and also I've selected sinc music that I've
selected.

any tips would be greatly appreciated and thanks in advance.

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Re: iToons

2013-10-04 Thread Alan Paganelli
It's easy to add songs, albums  or even other  lists together just by 
editing them.  And, you can always shuffle the play list too.

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Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.


Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: Lelia Struve leliastr...@samobile.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: iToons


So I figured out not only how to create a playlist but also how to add 
songs to it. thanks for your help, you definitely got me started Alan


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Audible app not showing purchased books

2013-10-04 Thread Tom Rash
How can I get access to my purchased books with the Audible app?  I select 
cloud and am only seeing excerpts.  

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Re: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with UbiDisk

2013-10-04 Thread Rob
sometimes I noticed that if you switch tabs, then go back to the book 
shelf, the newly imported  book will show up. also, did you sort the 
book shelf by the latest ?


Thanks,
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On 10/4/2013 6:35 AM, Robert Doc Wright wrote:

I just tried this morning and there is no problem in getting the book from
my pc to ubidisk but I have tried 3 times tapping share, open in, bard
mobile and so far all it does is open the bard mobile app and nothing else.
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- Original Message -
From: Rob musicmaker...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with UbiDisk


Did you get it to work?
Now that Bard is back I can use UbiDisk to export books to Bard again.

Thanks,
Rob
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206-426-3505
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On 10/2/2013 4:35 AM, Robert Doc Wright wrote:

I am doing  1 zipped book at a time. the same zipped file I downloded from
BARD.
***
When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return, It
matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.

- Original Message -
From: Rob musicmaker...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with UbiDisk


Are you transfering a Bard book?
MP3 files want work. and only try one zipped bard book at a time.

On 10/1/2013 6:12 AM, Robert Doc Wright wrote:

Rob it worked the first time and now it doesn't seem to work for me..
Here are my steps

After using easy push to send a file to my iDeviceI then go to the
download
section inside ubidisk  and tap more info on the file I want
I then tap share  then open in and chose bard mobile which brings up
the
bard mobile screen
but I am not finding the new book.  What have I forgotten?  I thought I
remembered seeing a progress bar the first time when it worked but not
this
time.
***
 When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in return,
It
matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.

- Original Message -
From: Rob musicmaker...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 4:17 PM
Subject: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with UbiDisk


Transfering books from PC using Wi-Fi.

  I use a free app called UbiDisk.
  Easily transfer files from PC to your I Devices.

  It even comes with a free windows program with a context menu
allowing
  you to select a file on your PC, press the applications key then
choose
  easy push to send that file to your iPhone.
  Remember the Bard books must be zipped before sending to the iPhone.

  UbiDisk is great and has many uses!

http://www.applevis.com/apps/ios/utilities/ubidisk-file-manager-downloader-easypush
Be sure to install the Easy Push program for Windows.
its very easy and convenient.

Now here is how to send books or any other files from your PC to the
iPhone, iPod or iPad.
On your PC find the file you want to send to the iPhone.
press the applications key
choose send with easy push
the easy push window will open.
the list will be empty untill you start the Ubidisk app on the iPhone.
then your iPhone will appear on the list.
select it and press enter.
your iPhone will ask if you want to accept the file.
tap on accept to start the transfer
when transfer is finished, tap on done.
Now back on the ubidisk main window choose local files
Once the book is sent to UbiDisk, find it, most likely to be in the
Downloads folder if you used the easy push.

right beneath the file name is a more info followed by the file name
button. double tap to open it
then look for the action button,
then choose open in
Bard will be on that list.
good luck!

Thanks,
Rob
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206-426-3505
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Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Alan Paganelli
I find that really hard to believe that for no apparent reason and by no 
action taken on your part that iOS 7 just started downloading and installing 
on your iPhone.  Before the installation can happen, you would have to agree 
to the terms and conditions first. Are you sure that you didn't start it 
yourself?  Even accidentally?

---

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Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.


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There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 1:43 AM
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.



Well, it could be ridiculous for you. Even though, when I see that the IOs
is downloaded automatically to my iPhone, without my agreement,  and it is
filling space in my iPhone, and is no way to remove that  information stored
in my iPhone, I don't see so ridiculous my email. Either apple.
When an IOs update appear, every body is looking for improvements in the
operated system, we are not looking for bugs, or steps back in our devices.
So I don't see so ridiculous my email. Less when the apple devices are the
more expensive devices, no when apple is a company that sales iDevices for a
price that for the most part of the people on the world, are impossible.
When you say that apple give us the right to use their software, but at the
same time they are storing data in my iPhone with out my permission, and the
only way to make that space free is installing the IOs 7, is not a freedom,
it is not a right the god apple gives to us. This is a command from apple.
so I don't see so ridiculous  my email.
when we install a new IOs, every body is waiting improvements, not bugs, and
not bunches of bugs as IOs 7  has. Even though, as you say, apple give us
the right to use their software, thing that is not a right, it is a command,
but their software is not working well, but we are not able to go back to
the IOs that was working better, it is a right?
No, it is not a right, it is a command.So, I don't see my email, ridiculous
.
Do not forget something. The device that you use, wasn't free. You paid for
that, and you paid money that is not a little bit of money, it was money
that could be the payment for  a whole year of work in many countries  on
the world. Money that you paid, and it is money that   you paid because you
were buying a good device. No a cheaper device.
So, I don't see my email as you said. ridiculous .
But let me tell  you in my opinion what is ridiculous .
ridiculous  is when we pay to a company that created a good software, a good
hardware, hardware and software that made a difference in your life. But
later they changed the software, and you start to get problems with many
things in your device, but you fill ok, because every IOs bring bugs. It is
ridiculous , because you didn't pay with money cracked, you didn't paid it
with  a check without funds, you paid it with money, good money.
What right are you talking about. They installed the data in my iPhone,
without my agreement, they offert a good IOs, but it brings a lot of bugs,
and they don't allow us to come back to the software that they created, that
works better is a right?
No, it is not a right.
On Oct 3, 2013, at 10:02 PM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Pablo your email is ridiculous. first of all no one said you had to
update your software. That was your choice. Second of all you don't
own the software you own the phone and Apple is giving you the right
to use their software. The software works quite well. Yes a few bugs
exist but you should have been aware of them when you chose to use the
software.


On 10/3/13, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:
So is it running slow on the 5s as well?
---

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Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played 
on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on 
my


website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message -
From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com
To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 
6


holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.


Hi,

I haven’t seen apps take 5 seconds 

Re: ringtones

2013-10-04 Thread Alan Paganelli
As far as I know, only iTunes can move ring tones so if you want to sync 
your old tones back to your phone, you'll need iTunes to do it.

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Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.


Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: Roger Frischenmeyer thejayhawk...@sbcglobal.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 3:00 AM
Subject: ringtones


Hi, is there a way to get additional ringtones without having to sync 
through itunes? I can't get my itunes account to sync with my new account 
which is no big deal other than I can't get my ringtones I used to have.


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Re: Audible app not showing purchased books

2013-10-04 Thread Kimber Gardner
There's a button that refreshes your content. I think it's in
settings. Tap that then you should see all your books.

On 10/4/13, Tom Rash dadinthed...@verizon.net wrote:
 How can I get access to my purchased books with the Audible app?  I select
 cloud and am only seeing excerpts.

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Re: iToons

2013-10-04 Thread Lelia
I figured out how to add albums and artists, but how do you add individual 
songs to a playlist?
Lelia

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 4, 2013, at 8:44 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net 
 wrote:
 
 It's easy to add songs, albums  or even other  lists together just by editing 
 them.  And, you can always shuffle the play list too.
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 Please click on:
 http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
 the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
 website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
 
 - Original Message - From: Lelia Struve leliastr...@samobile.net
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 6:15 PM
 Subject: Re: iToons
 
 
 So I figured out not only how to create a playlist but also how to add songs 
 to it. thanks for your help, you definitely got me started Alan
 
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Re: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with UbiDisk

2013-10-04 Thread Christopher Chaltain
The instructions I saw said that you may need to close the BARD Mobile 
app out of your App Switcher and restart it for the books to show up in 
your book shelf.


On 10/04/2013 09:59 AM, Rob wrote:

sometimes I noticed that if you switch tabs, then go back to the book
shelf, the newly imported  book will show up. also, did you sort the
book shelf by the latest ?

Thanks,
Rob
You can leave me a voice mail or fax at
206-426-3505
God is good all the time,  All the time God is good

On 10/4/2013 6:35 AM, Robert Doc Wright wrote:

I just tried this morning and there is no problem in getting the book
from
my pc to ubidisk but I have tried 3 times tapping share, open in, bard
mobile and so far all it does is open the bard mobile app and nothing
else.
***
   When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in
return, It
matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.

- Original Message -
From: Rob musicmaker...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 9:06 PM
Subject: Re: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with
UbiDisk


Did you get it to work?
Now that Bard is back I can use UbiDisk to export books to Bard again.

Thanks,
Rob
You can leave me a voice mail or fax at
206-426-3505
God is good all the time,  All the time God is good

On 10/2/2013 4:35 AM, Robert Doc Wright wrote:

I am doing  1 zipped book at a time. the same zipped file I downloded
from
BARD.
***
When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in
return, It
matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.

- Original Message -
From: Rob musicmaker...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 9:41 PM
Subject: Re: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with
UbiDisk


Are you transfering a Bard book?
MP3 files want work. and only try one zipped bard book at a time.

On 10/1/2013 6:12 AM, Robert Doc Wright wrote:

Rob it worked the first time and now it doesn't seem to work for me..
Here are my steps

After using easy push to send a file to my iDeviceI then go to the
download
section inside ubidisk  and tap more info on the file I want
I then tap share  then open in and chose bard mobile which brings up
the
bard mobile screen
but I am not finding the new book.  What have I forgotten?  I thought I
remembered seeing a progress bar the first time when it worked but not
this
time.
***
 When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in
return,
It
matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.

- Original Message -
From: Rob musicmaker...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 4:17 PM
Subject: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with UbiDisk


Transfering books from PC using Wi-Fi.

  I use a free app called UbiDisk.
  Easily transfer files from PC to your I Devices.

  It even comes with a free windows program with a context menu
allowing
  you to select a file on your PC, press the applications key then
choose
  easy push to send that file to your iPhone.
  Remember the Bard books must be zipped before sending to the
iPhone.

  UbiDisk is great and has many uses!

http://www.applevis.com/apps/ios/utilities/ubidisk-file-manager-downloader-easypush

Be sure to install the Easy Push program for Windows.
its very easy and convenient.

Now here is how to send books or any other files from your PC to the
iPhone, iPod or iPad.
On your PC find the file you want to send to the iPhone.
press the applications key
choose send with easy push
the easy push window will open.
the list will be empty untill you start the Ubidisk app on the iPhone.
then your iPhone will appear on the list.
select it and press enter.
your iPhone will ask if you want to accept the file.
tap on accept to start the transfer
when transfer is finished, tap on done.
Now back on the ubidisk main window choose local files
Once the book is sent to UbiDisk, find it, most likely to be in the
Downloads folder if you used the easy push.

right beneath the file name is a more info followed by the file name
button. double tap to open it
then look for the action button,
then choose open in
Bard will be on that list.
good luck!

Thanks,
Rob
You can leave me a voice mail or fax at
206-426-3505
God is good all the time,  All the time God is good









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The Bard Site is Back Online

2013-10-04 Thread Alan Paganelli
Yahoo!  The Bard site is back online.

I've just downloaded 3 magazines and 1 book from the Bard site.  So it appears 
it's working fine now!
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Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
Raul very well put. Yes Apple has downloaded software to your phone.
Whether we agree with this or not I would be willing to bet lots of
money that everyone agreed to this when they clicked I Agree at the
time of installing software. Also as I and others have stated before a
phone will not be upgraded unless you agree to the terms by tapping
agree.
The best suggestion I can give to someone if you don't like change or
don't want to deal with bugs don't install a software package till
others who are willing to deal with these issues have tested it and
say it has no bugs.

On 10/4/13, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:
 I find that really hard to believe that for no apparent reason and by no
 action taken on your part that iOS 7 just started downloading and installing

 on your iPhone.  Before the installation can happen, you would have to agree

 to the terms and conditions first. Are you sure that you didn't start it
 yourself?  Even accidentally?
 ---

 Regards,

 Alan

 Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

 Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
 Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

 Please click on:
 http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
 the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my

 website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

 - Original Message -
 From: Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 1:43 AM
 Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6

 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.


 Well, it could be ridiculous for you. Even though, when I see that the IOs
 is downloaded automatically to my iPhone, without my agreement,  and it is
 filling space in my iPhone, and is no way to remove that  information
 stored
 in my iPhone, I don't see so ridiculous my email. Either apple.
 When an IOs update appear, every body is looking for improvements in the
 operated system, we are not looking for bugs, or steps back in our devices.
 So I don't see so ridiculous my email. Less when the apple devices are the
 more expensive devices, no when apple is a company that sales iDevices for
 a
 price that for the most part of the people on the world, are impossible.
 When you say that apple give us the right to use their software, but at the
 same time they are storing data in my iPhone with out my permission, and
 the
 only way to make that space free is installing the IOs 7, is not a freedom,
 it is not a right the god apple gives to us. This is a command from apple.
 so I don't see so ridiculous  my email.
 when we install a new IOs, every body is waiting improvements, not bugs,
 and
 not bunches of bugs as IOs 7  has. Even though, as you say, apple give us
 the right to use their software, thing that is not a right, it is a
 command,
 but their software is not working well, but we are not able to go back to
 the IOs that was working better, it is a right?
 No, it is not a right, it is a command.So, I don't see my email, ridiculous
 .
 Do not forget something. The device that you use, wasn't free. You paid for
 that, and you paid money that is not a little bit of money, it was money
 that could be the payment for  a whole year of work in many countries  on
 the world. Money that you paid, and it is money that   you paid because you
 were buying a good device. No a cheaper device.
 So, I don't see my email as you said. ridiculous .
 But let me tell  you in my opinion what is ridiculous .
 ridiculous  is when we pay to a company that created a good software, a
 good
 hardware, hardware and software that made a difference in your life. But
 later they changed the software, and you start to get problems with many
 things in your device, but you fill ok, because every IOs bring bugs. It is
 ridiculous , because you didn't pay with money cracked, you didn't paid it
 with  a check without funds, you paid it with money, good money.
 What right are you talking about. They installed the data in my iPhone,
 without my agreement, they offert a good IOs, but it brings a lot of bugs,
 and they don't allow us to come back to the software that they created,
 that
 works better is a right?
 No, it is not a right.
 On Oct 3, 2013, at 10:02 PM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Pablo your email is ridiculous. first of all no one said you had to
 update your software. That was your choice. Second of all you don't
 own the software you own the phone and Apple is giving you the right
 to use their software. The software works quite well. Yes a few bugs
 exist but you should have been aware of them when you chose to use the
 software.

 On 10/3/13, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:
 So is it running slow on the 5s as well?
 ---

 Regards,

 Alan

 Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

 Teenagers; Tired of 

Re: The Bard Site is Back Online

2013-10-04 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
Thanks for letting us know. I wouldn't have even looked.

On 10/4/13, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Yahoo!  The Bard site is back online.

 I've just downloaded 3 magazines and 1 book from the Bard site.  So it
 appears it's working fine now!
 ---

 Regards,

 Alan

 Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

 Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
 Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

 Please click on:
 http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
 the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
 website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

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Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Gary Petraccaro

Only one person said that it downloaded and loaded.  The rest of those of us
who are concerned here either loaded the software and regret it or are
waiting and having limited space taken up by whatever got downloaded.
I'm not at all sure that had I known that I would have trouble entering
contacts as has been described on this list, that I would have chosen to buy
this phone.  What's easily gotten around by the experienced is not so by a
newby.  Now, I came in with my contacts having been transferred from my 
previous phone.  It's now not as big a deal as it would have been when I was 
first getting a phone and entering most of my contacts, but it might very 
easily not have been that way.  I want a phone that's a convenience not a 
chore.  I use a computer and don't tinker much.  This looks like a decided 
step backwards.



- Original Message - 
From: Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 10:08 AM
Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.



Raul. Nice post, and a question. Are there any ways in which Apple would
load a new iOS without someone pressing the I agree button or other
buttons
as well? To hear people tell it, this magically happens in the night with
no
knowledge of the user. Yes? No? Can we lay this one to rest at last, but
then I think that's what your previous message actually did. I was just
curious if this had actually happened to anyone though I cannot think that
it has.

Neal
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS
6
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

Hi Pablo, you might consider the glass of water analogy. Is it half-empty
for you or half-full for you? Are you a half-empty thinker?
It certainly seems like it by the tone of your messages. I'm more of a
half-full thinker. yes, there are bugs with new iOS releases, but
seriously
dude, are the bugs worse than what you gain? And if that is true, then why
did you update? I'm not talking about the fact that Apple downloaded the
iOS
on your phone to be ready, I'm talking about your willingness to choose to
instal, choose to agree to the terms that I bet you didn't read, and then
choose to use iOS7. Apple didn't force your fingers to tap the install and
the agree button. And in face, there are two agree buttons just to make
sure. So, my friend, you had a choice to upgrade. Now live with it. if
this
sounds harsh, so be it. If you look at the glass as half-full you will see
that despite the bugs, iOS 7 does have a lot of nice things to offer.
Also,
the bugs will get worked out given some time. yes, Apple may have pushed
it
out quickly, but seriously, the majority of the millions of users who use
the iPhone daily love it fine and don't complain about it because it's
what
they want.

This isn't a personal attack on you, obviously you have the right to
express
your opinion, and that's what I'm doing as well, but maybe you should
consider that there is good in the new release and not all bad.
You did the exact same thing with iOS 6 when you upgraded to it. So, this
leads me to believe that you always think negatively. If you hate Apple
and
iPhones so much, why do you even bother having one?


--
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I don't think I could kill someone. Let's face it, the closest I've got to
murder is holding an Oreo under the milk until the bubbles stop. - Sheldon
Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47

On 10/4/2013 3:43 AM, Pablo Morales wrote:

Well, it could be ridiculous for you. Even though, when I see that the
IOs is downloaded automatically to my iPhone, without my agreement,
and it is filling space in my iPhone, and is no way to remove that
information stored in my iPhone, I don't see so ridiculous my email.
Either apple.
When an IOs update appear, every body is looking for improvements in
the operated system, we are not looking for bugs, or steps back in our
devices. So I don't see so ridiculous my email. Less when the apple
devices are the more expensive devices, no when apple is a company
that sales iDevices for a price that for the most part of the people
on the world, are impossible.
When you say that apple give us the right to use their software, but
at the same time they are storing data in my iPhone with out my
permission, and the only way to make that space free is installing the
IOs 7, is not a freedom, it is not a right the god apple gives to us.
This is a command from apple.
so I don't see so ridiculous  my email.
when we install a new IOs, every body is waiting improvements, not
bugs, and not bunches of bugs as IOs 7  has. Even though, as you say,
apple give us the right to use their software, thing that is not a
right, it is a command, but their software is not working well, but we

RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Neil,

You know, I hear people sleep walk and do all sorts of things they have no
knowledge of the next morning. I wonder if people sleep tap *smile* And
no, there is no way, and I mean no way whatsoever, that iOS 7 installs
itself without you going into Settings, General, Software Update and tapping
on Install, then agreeing to the Terms and Conditions and as Raul pointed
out to tap the I Agree a second time. If I counted correctly that means 6
double taps and a bunch of swipes or moving your finger around the screen to
find all the buttons.
I also remember a number of Pablo's posts exactly one year ago, I bet if you
took them and replaced iOS 6 with iOS 7 they would sound almost
identical. Of course now iOS 6 which Pablo thought was so horrible after he
upgraded from iOS 5 is the nice and perfectly working OS, let's all look
forward to reading the same one year from now when iOS 8 comes out!


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Neal Ewers
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 7:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

Raul. Nice post, and a question. Are there any ways in which Apple would
load a new iOS without someone pressing the I agree button or other buttons
as well? To hear people tell it, this magically happens in the night with no
knowledge of the user. Yes? No? Can we lay this one to rest at last, but
then I think that's what your previous message actually did. I was just
curious if this had actually happened to anyone though I cannot think that
it has. 

Neal
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

Hi Pablo, you might consider the glass of water analogy. Is it half-empty
for you or half-full for you? Are you a half-empty thinker? 
It certainly seems like it by the tone of your messages. I'm more of a
half-full thinker. yes, there are bugs with new iOS releases, but seriously
dude, are the bugs worse than what you gain? And if that is true, then why
did you update? I'm not talking about the fact that Apple downloaded the iOS
on your phone to be ready, I'm talking about your willingness to choose to
instal, choose to agree to the terms that I bet you didn't read, and then
choose to use iOS7. Apple didn't force your fingers to tap the install and
the agree button. And in face, there are two agree buttons just to make
sure. So, my friend, you had a choice to upgrade. Now live with it. if this
sounds harsh, so be it. If you look at the glass as half-full you will see
that despite the bugs, iOS 7 does have a lot of nice things to offer. Also,
the bugs will get worked out given some time. yes, Apple may have pushed it
out quickly, but seriously, the majority of the millions of users who use
the iPhone daily love it fine and don't complain about it because it's what
they want.

This isn't a personal attack on you, obviously you have the right to express
your opinion, and that's what I'm doing as well, but maybe you should
consider that there is good in the new release and not all bad. 
You did the exact same thing with iOS 6 when you upgraded to it. So, this
leads me to believe that you always think negatively. If you hate Apple and
iPhones so much, why do you even bother having one?


--
Raul A. Gallegos
I don't think I could kill someone. Let's face it, the closest I've got to
murder is holding an Oreo under the milk until the bubbles stop. - Sheldon
Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47

On 10/4/2013 3:43 AM, Pablo Morales wrote:
 Well, it could be ridiculous for you. Even though, when I see that the 
 IOs is downloaded automatically to my iPhone, without my agreement, 
 and it is filling space in my iPhone, and is no way to remove that 
 information stored in my iPhone, I don't see so ridiculous my email.
 Either apple.
 When an IOs update appear, every body is looking for improvements in 
 the operated system, we are not looking for bugs, or steps back in our 
 devices. So I don't see so ridiculous my email. Less when the apple 
 devices are the more expensive devices, no when apple is a company 
 that sales iDevices for a price that for the most part of the people 
 on the world, are impossible.
 When you say that apple give us the right to use their software, but 
 at the same time they are storing data in my iPhone with out my 
 permission, and the only way to make that space free is installing the 
 IOs 7, is not a freedom, it is not a right the god apple gives to us.
 This is a command from apple.
 so I don't see so ridiculous  my email.
 when we install a new IOs, every body is waiting improvements, not 
 bugs, and not bunches of bugs as IOs 7  has. 

Re: The Bard Site is Back Online

2013-10-04 Thread Lelia

LeliaI am wondering if I am right in that if I put books on my wish list, that 
is still on the site. I actually have to download them onto my iPhone in order 
to get them off the Bard site is that correct? Thank you

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 4, 2013, at 9:23 AM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks for letting us know. I wouldn't have even looked.
 
 On 10/4/13, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Yahoo!  The Bard site is back online.
 
 I've just downloaded 3 magazines and 1 book from the Bard site.  So it
 appears it's working fine now!
 ---
 
 Regards,
 
 Alan
 
 Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
 
 Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
 Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
 
 Please click on:
 http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
 the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
 website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
 
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Re: The Bard Site is Back Online

2013-10-04 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I don't understand your question. You can get books on to your phone by 
downloading  them from your wish list, downloading them from the 
recently added books page or transferring them to your phone from your 
PC or Mac. You can add books to your wish list by using the browse books 
option in the BARD Mobile app or with any browser.


On 10/04/2013 10:28 AM, Lelia wrote:


LeliaI am wondering if I am right in that if I put books on my wish list, that 
is still on the site. I actually have to download them onto my iPhone in order 
to get them off the Bard site is that correct? Thank you

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 4, 2013, at 9:23 AM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:

Thanks for letting us know. I wouldn't have even looked.


On 10/4/13, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:
Yahoo!  The Bard site is back online.

I've just downloaded 3 magazines and 1 book from the Bard site.  So it
appears it's working fine now!
---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

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RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Gary,

You can still enter contacts and even edit them, the bug is that you can't
apparently move the cursor in a few fields and I hope you have sent an email
to Apple Accessible outlining the issue in a constructive,
non-confrontational way. This is a bit like a democratic political system
which, I understand, the US once had (sorry, couldn't resist that one).
Anyhow, what I mean is that if I hear people complain about the government,
the first thing I do is ask whether they voted at the last election. If they
say No I usually tell them to shut up because they really don't have a right
to complain since they didn't participate in selecting the government. OK,
so Apple is no democracy, but the prinziple is the same, unless you
participate in sending emails to Apple Accessibility, you can't really
complain about the bugs. As Ricardo or Richard (I forget who) pointed out,
the iPhone 5S and 5C only came out 2 weeks ago today and Apple gives you a
generous 30 days to return a product. So, if you don't like it and think you
can find another phone which offers you better accessibility, just return
your iPhone.
We must also not forget that Apple is a huge company. They have many
departments, divisions and teams and while I am sure they all try their best
to work together, there often are rivaleries and such going on between
various product teams. I am quite convinced that the accessibility team
would prefer to have twice as much money and twice as many people to make
accessibility the best there is, but they have to do what they can with what
they have and while they might have a fix for an issue, Apple is unlikely to
push out an update with one or two Voiceover fixes only. If history is right
and it usually is, we are now probably only 4 or 5 weeks away from iOS 7.1
which in the past years always included accessibility fixes along with other
feature improvements and bug fixes.
I think it's important especially in the weeks after a new iOS first comes
out to send lots of feedback to Apple Accessibility so they can see where
the bugs are and how to prioritize them. This is why it's also important
that everybody who reads about a bug should try to reproduce it and if they
can which in the case of editing Contacts seems to be the case, they should
send in an email and not just take the lazy approach and think Oh well, I'm
sure a few others already did so I don't have to. If Apple gets 500 emails
about this and only 50 about something else I am pretty convinced that the
problem reported by 500 people will be higher up in the list than the
problem reported by 50.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Gary Petraccaro
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

Only one person said that it downloaded and loaded.  The rest of those of us
who are concerned here either loaded the software and regret it or are
waiting and having limited space taken up by whatever got downloaded.
I'm not at all sure that had I known that I would have trouble entering
contacts as has been described on this list, that I would have chosen to buy
this phone.  What's easily gotten around by the experienced is not so by a
newby.  Now, I came in with my contacts having been transferred from my
previous phone.  It's now not as big a deal as it would have been when I was
first getting a phone and entering most of my contacts, but it might very
easily not have been that way.  I want a phone that's a convenience not a
chore.  I use a computer and don't tinker much.  This looks like a decided
step backwards.


- Original Message -
From: Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 10:08 AM
Subject: RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.


 Raul. Nice post, and a question. Are there any ways in which Apple would
 load a new iOS without someone pressing the I agree button or other
 buttons
 as well? To hear people tell it, this magically happens in the night with
 no
 knowledge of the user. Yes? No? Can we lay this one to rest at last, but
 then I think that's what your previous message actually did. I was just
 curious if this had actually happened to anyone though I cannot think that
 it has.

 Neal
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Raul A. Gallegos
 Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:25 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS
 6
 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

 Hi Pablo, you might consider the glass of water analogy. Is it half-empty
 for you or half-full for you? Are you a half-empty thinker?
 It certainly seems like it by the tone of your messages. I'm more of a
 half-full 

Re: iToons

2013-10-04 Thread Alan Paganelli
In the play list, look for the edit button near the top of the screen.  I 
don't remember if it's on the left or the right and with my luck, if I tell 
you it's on the left, it'll be on the right.  Anyway, once you double tap 
the edit button the add button will be in there too.  Double tap the add 
button and that brings up a list of songs.  I can't find where to let you 
select hole albums yet but it looks like there are issues with play lists 
too.

---

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website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: Lelia leliastr...@samobile.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:11 AM
Subject: Re: iToons


I figured out how to add albums and artists, but how do you add individual 
songs to a playlist?

Lelia

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 4, 2013, at 8:44 AM, Alan Paganelli 
alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:


It's easy to add songs, albums  or even other  lists together just by 
editing them.  And, you can always shuffle the play list too.

---

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Alan

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http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played 
on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on 
my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - From: Lelia Struve 
leliastr...@samobile.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: iToons


So I figured out not only how to create a playlist but also how to add 
songs to it. thanks for your help, you definitely got me started Alan


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RE: The Bard Site is Back Online

2013-10-04 Thread Lynda Ingraham
Yes, you are correct. You first add the books to your wish list.  My
understanding is this can be done in one of three ways: (1) You can add
books from the Recently Added Books and Magazines. Unless I am missing
something, you will not see the book summary when reading through the
titles. (2) Using Safari on your phone and browsing the BARD site you add
books to your wish list. I have not tried this. I imagine you would be able
to read the book summaries this way. (3) The old fashioned way, going to
BARD and adding books to your wish list. Please note, to add a book to your
wish list using this method, click on the link with the name of the book,
not the download link. Once you add the book to your wish list, I believe it
is one or two lines down you will see a link to return to book summaries.
Sometimes, I don't think I wind up in the right place in the list. I have
started remembering a key word from the title and using that in the search
string to bring me to the last book I added to my wish list. 

Have a great day, 

Lynda 

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Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 11:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The Bard Site is Back Online


LeliaI am wondering if I am right in that if I put books on my wish list,
that is still on the site. I actually have to download them onto my iPhone
in order to get them off the Bard site is that correct? Thank you

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 4, 2013, at 9:23 AM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
wrote:
 
 Thanks for letting us know. I wouldn't have even looked.
 
 On 10/4/13, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Yahoo!  The Bard site is back online.
 
 I've just downloaded 3 magazines and 1 book from the Bard site.  So 
 it appears it's working fine now!
 ---
 
 Regards,
 
 Alan
 
 Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
 
 Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
 Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
 
 Please click on:
 http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances 
 played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  
 format formerly on my website are still available upon request.  Thanks
for listening!
 
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Re: The Bard Site is Back Online

2013-10-04 Thread Alan Paganelli
The wish list is very handy because you can have as many books in the wish 
list.  The advantage is when your using the Bard Mobile app, the titles are 
ready for downloading and you don't have to have 50 titles on your iPhone 
but any of those titles you've added to the wish list can be put on your 
phone when ever you want so it is a handy way to have a list of titles you 
intend on reading.

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http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: Lynda Ingraham lynda.ingra...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:44 AM
Subject: RE: The Bard Site is Back Online



Yes, you are correct. You first add the books to your wish list.  My
understanding is this can be done in one of three ways: (1) You can add
books from the Recently Added Books and Magazines. Unless I am missing
something, you will not see the book summary when reading through the
titles. (2) Using Safari on your phone and browsing the BARD site you add
books to your wish list. I have not tried this. I imagine you would be 
able

to read the book summaries this way. (3) The old fashioned way, going to
BARD and adding books to your wish list. Please note, to add a book to 
your

wish list using this method, click on the link with the name of the book,
not the download link. Once you add the book to your wish list, I believe 
it

is one or two lines down you will see a link to return to book summaries.
Sometimes, I don't think I wind up in the right place in the list. I have
started remembering a key word from the title and using that in the search
string to bring me to the last book I added to my wish list.

Have a great day,

Lynda

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Lelia
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 11:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The Bard Site is Back Online


LeliaI am wondering if I am right in that if I put books on my wish list,
that is still on the site. I actually have to download them onto my iPhone
in order to get them off the Bard site is that correct? Thank you

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 4, 2013, at 9:23 AM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com

wrote:


Thanks for letting us know. I wouldn't have even looked.


On 10/4/13, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:
Yahoo!  The Bard site is back online.

I've just downloaded 3 magazines and 1 book from the Bard site.  So
it appears it's working fine now!
---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances
played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics
format formerly on my website are still available upon request.  Thanks

for listening!


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Associations lost between voices and books in VoiceDream Reader

2013-10-04 Thread Kathy Blackburn
I am running an iPhone 5 under IOS version 7. Some of the books that I 
have downloaded using VoiceDream Reader are working properly, but others 
are on my bookshelf and my preferred purchased voice for that book does 
not read them and seems to be dimmed under settings. What should I do?


Thank you for any help.

Kathy Blackburn
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Calendars not syncing between ipad II and computer

2013-10-04 Thread Larry Lumpkin
Hi.  I have posted this several times and not received an answer.  I am
trying to sync my calendar and contacts between an ipad II running ios 7.02
and a windows 7 64-bit computer running MS outlook 2010 home and business.
I have the latest ICloud control panel installed and running and
appointments going to the iCloud calendar.  My mail service is a pop-3
account.  I would really like to have my appointments and contacts to sync
and would really appreciate help  in resolving this problem.  Thanks.

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Re: The Bard Site is Back Online

2013-10-04 Thread Christopher Chaltain
You can download books directly to your iPhone from the recently added 
books list in the BARD Mobile app. You cannot add books to your wish 
list from the recently added books list in the BARD Mobile app. You can 
get the book summaries in the recently added books list by double 
tapping the more info button.


On 10/04/2013 10:44 AM, Lynda Ingraham wrote:

Yes, you are correct. You first add the books to your wish list.  My
understanding is this can be done in one of three ways: (1) You can add
books from the Recently Added Books and Magazines. Unless I am missing
something, you will not see the book summary when reading through the
titles. (2) Using Safari on your phone and browsing the BARD site you add
books to your wish list. I have not tried this. I imagine you would be able
to read the book summaries this way. (3) The old fashioned way, going to
BARD and adding books to your wish list. Please note, to add a book to your
wish list using this method, click on the link with the name of the book,
not the download link. Once you add the book to your wish list, I believe it
is one or two lines down you will see a link to return to book summaries.
Sometimes, I don't think I wind up in the right place in the list. I have
started remembering a key word from the title and using that in the search
string to bring me to the last book I added to my wish list.

Have a great day,

Lynda

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Lelia
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 11:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The Bard Site is Back Online


LeliaI am wondering if I am right in that if I put books on my wish list,
that is still on the site. I actually have to download them onto my iPhone
in order to get them off the Bard site is that correct? Thank you

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 4, 2013, at 9:23 AM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com

wrote:


Thanks for letting us know. I wouldn't have even looked.


On 10/4/13, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:
Yahoo!  The Bard site is back online.

I've just downloaded 3 magazines and 1 book from the Bard site.  So
it appears it's working fine now!
---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances
played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics
format formerly on my website are still available upon request.  Thanks

for listening!


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RE: The Bard Site is Back Online

2013-10-04 Thread Rose Combs
Yes, the message as I heard on another list is the site is online but no
technical support, no new books or magazines.  I guess someone in the
government got upset when they could not access a site, probably not Bard,
by the way.  I got my books from my wish list that I forgot to do on Monday.


 

So, we can access but will not see anything new until they figure out this
mess we are in.  

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Paganelli
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: The Bard Site is Back Online

 

Yahoo!  The Bard site is back online.

 

I've just downloaded 3 magazines and 1 book from the Bard site.  So it
appears it's working fine now!

---

 

Regards,

 

Alan

 

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

 

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Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

 

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Re: iPhone 5 cases

2013-10-04 Thread Jennie Facer
Hi,

I paid $79 for it. It is red. I cannot tell you how big it is, but I have had 
the defender case, and it is not as bulky.

Jenn

Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 3, 2013, at 5:54 PM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Jennie , how much is it?
 where did you buy it?
 colors?
 how big is it?
 
 - Original Message - From: Jennie Facer jennie.fa...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 6:13 PM
 Subject: Re: iPhone 5 cases
 
 
 I want to speak for the Life Proof case. I have it and I don't have any 
 problems with the sound distortion. I also have an arm band for it so I can 
 wear it on my arm and not have to worry about it coming off or falling off my 
 belt.
 
 Jenn
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Oct 3, 2013, at 4:09 PM, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Pablo,
 
 Another consideration is the Ballistic Hard Core case.  The Hard core
 case opens up like a sandwich to cradle the iPhone and hold it tightly
 in place.  It uses a very hard plastic to hold the iPhone without
 moving.  A rubber case fits over the Hard Core plastic case.  The Hard
 Core case has a screen protector, tiny doors that close to protect
 jacks from getting in dust and dirt, and a belt holster.
 
 I have a very dark gray case that is virtually black.  Hard core cases
 also come in many different colors as well.  A sighted friend told me
 that the colors are not the really cool color shades like with the
 iPhone 5C, but weird blues, greens, and reds.
 
 I didn’t choose the Lifeproof case because I was concerned that the
 quality of voice input and output would be compromised in putting the
 iPhone in a water tight bubble.  The Otterbox Defender clamps the
 iPhone in place rather than holding it in tightly in a hard plastic
 core.  Many Otterbox Defender owners on Amazon complain that the
 iPhone eventually wiggles a little in the Otterbox case.  This slight
 movement invariably leaves permanent scratches on the front glass of
 the iPhone.  I don’t want a scratched up iPhone glass!  Recognizing
 touch gestures is highly important to me.  I feel that for the same
 price, I am protected much, much more with the Ballistic Hard Core
 case than with the other popular cases, such as
 Kelly
 
 
 
 
 On 10/3/13, Donna merma...@bellsouth.net wrote:
 My otterbox case is pink. I chose this color not because of my gender but it
 was the only color left in stock besides white and black. I bought my case
 from my local ATT store and if my memory serves me correctly I paid around
 $25 for the case. If you shop around you might be able to find it cheaper.
 
 Donna
 
 On Oct 3, 2013, at 11:55 AM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi Donna , and Sieghard.
 I have a couple of questions about these cases.
 1. about the Lifeproof. It is so big? when you said that it is a
 waterproof  case, it means that it is a waterproof ? if it is true,
 how we can recharge the iPhone?
 2. Donna, I am totally blind, but i like colors. The cases are black? all
 black?
 what about prices?
 
 
 
 
 
 On 10/3/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 Hi Pablo,
 
 
 
 Check Donna's recommendation, the Otterbox Defender, or you can also
 consider the Lifeproof case which is a waterproof case at the same time.
 
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Sieghard
 
 
 
 
 
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Donna
 Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 3:28 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iPhone 5 cases
 
 
 
 The OtterBox Defender case has all of the features that you are looking
 for.
 I have this case for my iPhone 5 and love it!
 
 
 
 Donna
 
 
 On Oct 3, 2013, at 5:07 AM, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 HI all.
 
 I am looking cases, for the iPhones 5, 5c and 5s with the following
 features.
 
 1. It should be hard, to protect the iDevices of hits, crash, and that
 kind
 of accidents.
 
 2. Cases that protect the screen of the phone. Something that can
 protect
 the iPhone of scratches.
 
 3. The cases should have a kind of clip, I need to hold the iDevice  in
 my
 belt, or somewhere if I need to use my hands.
 
 any body knows any kind of cases with this features?
 
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FW: [bardtalk] NLS Websites

2013-10-04 Thread Alan Lemly
I'm including the below message from Lloyd Rasmussen posted to the bardtalk
email list. Lloyd works for the NLS and while this is not an official NLS
communication, it does contain some additional detail about the restored
BARD site.

 

Alan Lemly

 

-Original Message-
From: bardt...@yahoogroups.com [mailto:bardt...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf
Of Lloyd Rasmussen
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:33 AM
To: bardt...@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [bardtalk] NLS Websites

 

  

I have heard that yesterday Library of Congress management requested that 
websites be put back online. This includes, among other things, 
www.loc.gov/nls and nlsbard.loc.gov.

This means that data from these sites should be accessible, but there will 
be minimal maintenance and no support from Washington. No new materials 
will be added until the shutdown ends. Please treat the site with respect, 
downloading what you really need but not going into a hoarding mode. We 
don't yet know when normal operations will resume at NLS, but we will be 
back.

Lloyd Rasmussen, Kensington, MD
http://lras.home.sprynet.com

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Re: The Bard Site is Back Online

2013-10-04 Thread May and Noah
You can download books from the recently added section on the app. I just did 
it yesterday. 

May and Prince Noah
www.canadianlynx.ca

On 2013-10-04, at 12:19 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

 You can download books directly to your iPhone from the recently added books 
 list in the BARD Mobile app. You cannot add books to your wish list from the 
 recently added books list in the BARD Mobile app. You can get the book 
 summaries in the recently added books list by double tapping the more info 
 button.
 
 On 10/04/2013 10:44 AM, Lynda Ingraham wrote:
 Yes, you are correct. You first add the books to your wish list.  My
 understanding is this can be done in one of three ways: (1) You can add
 books from the Recently Added Books and Magazines. Unless I am missing
 something, you will not see the book summary when reading through the
 titles. (2) Using Safari on your phone and browsing the BARD site you add
 books to your wish list. I have not tried this. I imagine you would be able
 to read the book summaries this way. (3) The old fashioned way, going to
 BARD and adding books to your wish list. Please note, to add a book to your
 wish list using this method, click on the link with the name of the book,
 not the download link. Once you add the book to your wish list, I believe it
 is one or two lines down you will see a link to return to book summaries.
 Sometimes, I don't think I wind up in the right place in the list. I have
 started remembering a key word from the title and using that in the search
 string to bring me to the last book I added to my wish list.
 
 Have a great day,
 
 Lynda
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Lelia
 Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 11:28 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: The Bard Site is Back Online
 
 
 LeliaI am wondering if I am right in that if I put books on my wish list,
 that is still on the site. I actually have to download them onto my iPhone
 in order to get them off the Bard site is that correct? Thank you
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 4, 2013, at 9:23 AM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Thanks for letting us know. I wouldn't have even looked.
 
 On 10/4/13, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Yahoo!  The Bard site is back online.
 
 I've just downloaded 3 magazines and 1 book from the Bard site.  So
 it appears it's working fine now!
 ---
 
 Regards,
 
 Alan
 
 Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
 
 Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
 Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
 
 Please click on:
 http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances
 played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics
 format formerly on my website are still available upon request.  Thanks
 for listening!
 
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Re: The Bard Site is Back Online

2013-10-04 Thread May and Noah
oops, ignore my mail that just came through. Thought I switched to another 
email where someone was asking me pretty much the same question as over here. 

May and Prince Noah
www.canadianlynx.ca

On 2013-10-04, at 12:19 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

 You can download books directly to your iPhone from the recently added books 
 list in the BARD Mobile app. You cannot add books to your wish list from the 
 recently added books list in the BARD Mobile app. You can get the book 
 summaries in the recently added books list by double tapping the more info 
 button.
 
 On 10/04/2013 10:44 AM, Lynda Ingraham wrote:
 Yes, you are correct. You first add the books to your wish list.  My
 understanding is this can be done in one of three ways: (1) You can add
 books from the Recently Added Books and Magazines. Unless I am missing
 something, you will not see the book summary when reading through the
 titles. (2) Using Safari on your phone and browsing the BARD site you add
 books to your wish list. I have not tried this. I imagine you would be able
 to read the book summaries this way. (3) The old fashioned way, going to
 BARD and adding books to your wish list. Please note, to add a book to your
 wish list using this method, click on the link with the name of the book,
 not the download link. Once you add the book to your wish list, I believe it
 is one or two lines down you will see a link to return to book summaries.
 Sometimes, I don't think I wind up in the right place in the list. I have
 started remembering a key word from the title and using that in the search
 string to bring me to the last book I added to my wish list.
 
 Have a great day,
 
 Lynda
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Lelia
 Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 11:28 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: The Bard Site is Back Online
 
 
 LeliaI am wondering if I am right in that if I put books on my wish list,
 that is still on the site. I actually have to download them onto my iPhone
 in order to get them off the Bard site is that correct? Thank you
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 4, 2013, at 9:23 AM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Thanks for letting us know. I wouldn't have even looked.
 
 On 10/4/13, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Yahoo!  The Bard site is back online.
 
 I've just downloaded 3 magazines and 1 book from the Bard site.  So
 it appears it's working fine now!
 ---
 
 Regards,
 
 Alan
 
 Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
 
 Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
 Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
 
 Please click on:
 http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances
 played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics
 format formerly on my website are still available upon request.  Thanks
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iTunes was RE: iToons

2013-10-04 Thread Alan Lemly
Hi, Lelia. First let me say that I changed the subject to spell iTunes
correctly. Sorry if that's being overly pedantic but even though sometimes I
feel iTunes is cartoonish, I thought we should get the spelling right.

To add individual songs to a playlist, I'll tell you how I do it. I'm sure
there is more than one way but I do if this way from within iTunes:

1. Put focus on music in the iTunes sidebar.
2. Use the Search Music box in the upper right corner to get the tracks
listed I want to add to the playlist.
3. Highlight those listed tracks in the main window that you want to add to
a playlist and press ctrl + F10 to bring up the context menu.
4. From the context menu, you can select either New playlist from selection
to create a playlist on the fly or Add to playlist which will present your
list of existing playlists from which to choose.

Good luck.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Lelia
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 10:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iToons

I figured out how to add albums and artists, but how do you add individual
songs to a playlist?
Lelia

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 4, 2013, at 8:44 AM, Alan Paganelli
alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 It's easy to add songs, albums  or even other  lists together just by
editing them.  And, you can always shuffle the play list too.
 ---
 
 Regards,
 
 Alan
 
 Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
 
 Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
 
 Please click on:
 http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played
on
 the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on
my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
 
 - Original Message - From: Lelia Struve
leliastr...@samobile.net
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 6:15 PM
 Subject: Re: iToons
 
 
 So I figured out not only how to create a playlist but also how to add
songs to it. thanks for your help, you definitely got me started Alan
 
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A couple of Kindle questions

2013-10-04 Thread Donald L. Roberts
I haven't yet used the Kindle IOS app. Also, I haven't yet upgraded to 
IOS 7.


I plan to buy a Kindle book and am wondering whether I can load the book 
both on the IOS app and also on the accessible Kindle for PC. I am also 
wondering if either of the two apps has a mechanism for continuous 
reading. The original Kindle for PC had no such command.


Thanks.

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Re: A couple of Kindle questions

2013-10-04 Thread Alan Paganelli
The Kindle app for iPhone works well and you can backup your books to your 
computer via iTunes.

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Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.


Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com

To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 11:17 AM
Subject: A couple of Kindle questions


I haven't yet used the Kindle IOS app. Also, I haven't yet upgraded to IOS 
7.


I plan to buy a Kindle book and am wondering whether I can load the book 
both on the IOS app and also on the accessible Kindle for PC. I am also 
wondering if either of the two apps has a mechanism for continuous 
reading. The original Kindle for PC had no such command.


Thanks.

Don Roberts

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RE: Volume Buttons, Snooze and Stop Alarm?

2013-10-04 Thread Thom Spittle
When it goes off and you hit the unlock section of your screen, doesn't that
shut off the alarm?

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Rose Combs
 Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 9:45 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: Volume Buttons, Snooze and Stop Alarm?
 
 If the phone is unlocked I see an OK button for the alarm, if not,
unlocked I
 don't see that and then it seems to go to snooze, I then unlock the phone
 and when it goes off again I find the OK button.  Drives me a bit crazy
 because if I wanted snooze on I would have set it that way.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
 On Behalf Of Kliphton
 Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 7:01 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Volume Buttons, Snooze and Stop Alarm?
 
 There use to be an okay button while the alarm was going off.  But I have
 only seen it a couple of times, so I guess the unlock botton will have to
do to
 stop the alarm.
 
 
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 On Oct 3, 2013, at 8:11 AM, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hmmm, I remember pressing the home button, but not the unlock button. I
 pressed the home button at some point to examine the alarm screen, then
 locked it again. Something in this whole process shut off the alarm, I
know
 that much.
 
 thanks,
 Teresa
  On Oct 3, 2013, at 4:56 AM, Thom Spittle thom3...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  What I have noticed is that any of the hardware buttons snooze the
  alarm. To Turn off the alarm, you have to hit the unlock area of the
 screen.
 
  Best,
  Thom
 
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 On
  Behalf Of Teresa Cochran
  Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 12:24 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Volume Buttons, Snooze and Stop Alarm?
 
  Hi, all,
 
  I'm sorry, but I couldn't find anything about this in the IOS manual.
  I
  took a
  nap and set an alarm today, but my head was a little too muzzy to
  register which volume buttons activate snooze and disable the alarm.
  I'm guessing the down button for stopping it, and the up button for
  snooze. I've only noticed this in IOS7. Can anyone else  confirm all
  of
 this?
 
  Thanks,
  Teresa
 
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Re: A couple of Kindle questions

2013-10-04 Thread Arnold Schmidt
Your kindle books are stored on Amazon, so you can access them with whatever 
reader you wish.I remember, when I first installed the Kindle app onto my 
telephone, it also knew where I was in a book I had been reading on the pc, 
and started at that point.  There is a command in the pc reader to get it to 
read continuously,  I do not remember what it is. I haven't used the pc 
reader since installing the app onto my telephone.


Arnold Schmidt
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From: Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com

To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 2:17 PM
Subject: A couple of Kindle questions


I haven't yet used the Kindle IOS app. Also, I haven't yet upgraded to IOS 
7.


I plan to buy a Kindle book and am wondering whether I can load the book 
both on the IOS app and also on the accessible Kindle for PC. I am also 
wondering if either of the two apps has a mechanism for continuous 
reading. The original Kindle for PC had no such command.


Thanks.

Don Roberts

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Re: The Bard Site is Back Online

2013-10-04 Thread Mike Arrigo
Hopefully eventually you will just be able to do a search, then 
download the book without having to deal with the wish list.

Original message:

You can download books directly to your iPhone from the recently added
books list in the BARD Mobile app. You cannot add books to your wish
list from the recently added books list in the BARD Mobile app. You can
get the book summaries in the recently added books list by double
tapping the more info button.



On 10/04/2013 10:44 AM, Lynda Ingraham wrote:

Yes, you are correct. You first add the books to your wish list.  My
understanding is this can be done in one of three ways: (1) You can add
books from the Recently Added Books and Magazines. Unless I am missing
something, you will not see the book summary when reading through the
titles. (2) Using Safari on your phone and browsing the BARD site you add
books to your wish list. I have not tried this. I imagine you would be able
to read the book summaries this way. (3) The old fashioned way, going to
BARD and adding books to your wish list. Please note, to add a book to your
wish list using this method, click on the link with the name of the book,
not the download link. Once you add the book to your wish list, I believe it
is one or two lines down you will see a link to return to book summaries.
Sometimes, I don't think I wind up in the right place in the list. I have
started remembering a key word from the title and using that in the search
string to bring me to the last book I added to my wish list.



Have a great day,



Lynda



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Of Lelia
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 11:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The Bard Site is Back Online




LeliaI am wondering if I am right in that if I put books on my wish list,
that is still on the site. I actually have to download them onto my iPhone
in order to get them off the Bard site is that correct? Thank you



Sent from my iPhone



On Oct 4, 2013, at 9:23 AM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com

wrote:



Thanks for letting us know. I wouldn't have even looked.



On 10/4/13, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:
Yahoo!  The Bard site is back online.



I've just downloaded 3 magazines and 1 book from the Bard site.  So
it appears it's working fine now!
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G Mail Account and Exchange Mail

2013-10-04 Thread Les Kriegler
There has been a lot of discussion on getting Exchange Mail on an iPhone by 
setting up a G Mail Account.  I would appreciate it if someone who has 
experience with the Braille Sense u2 contact me off-list as I am working with 
an employee who needs to get Exchange Mail hopefully on this unit.  My e-mail 
address is:
kriegle...@gmail.com.  Thanks.

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Re: Enhanced voice and rotor question

2013-10-04 Thread BBS
Hi Shane. Did you turn off Use Compact Voice in the Voiceover settings? That 
might fix your problem. Also, be sure to turn off Use Pitch Change as well 
because that turns on the compact voice when you type a capital letter or 
delete. Finally, what language or voice are you using?

Shawn

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Re: Problem with Tunein Radio Pro

2013-10-04 Thread Craig Werner
I believe that as it was originally conceived, Car Mode allowed the
user to speak a search text into the device.  It was meant for drivers
to use in cases where they didn't want to type in the call letters of
a station; in other words, this was an issue of safety.

Craig

On 10/2/13, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:
 I was just going to ask that very same question.  I too have the Tune in app

 and am wondering what Card mode is and how it's used?
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 website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

 - Original Message -
 From: Richard rqli...@rogers.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 5:26 PM
 Subject: RE: Problem with Tunein Radio Pro


 Well, unfortunately, I'm not alone I guess with it.  Hopefully a fix is
 coming.  Just found out that WunderRadio is no longer being supported and

 is
 out of the AppStore.

 On the tunein Radio front though; I managed to get some searches done in
 car
 mode.  Getting to the listing and tapping on the one you want can be a
 bit
 frustrating though.  By the way, what is car-mode for?

 Richard


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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of eric oyen
 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 2:16 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Problem with Tunein Radio Pro

 sounds like we need to bug both Apple and the app developer. They start
 hearing from enough of us and they will get the hint.

 -eric

 On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:54 PM, BBS wrote:

 Hi Richard. Yep, everybody's having the same problem with search results
 not being displayed in Tunein with Voiceover. Some of us have written to
 them about it but it's a question of when or if they're gonna fix it.

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Program to Sync Tasks Between Outlook and the iPhone

2013-10-04 Thread Keith Bundy
I have an email account at work that runs with Outlook through an
Exchange server. I used to be able to use a program named TaskTask to
sync tasks between the phone and Outlook.

Recently, I have found TaskTask to be more cumbersome to use on the
iPhone. Not sure why this is the case, but it's a bit frustrating.

Is anyone successfully syncing tasks between an Exchange account and
an iPhone? If so, what program do you use? Any suggestions will be
appreciated.

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Re: Problem with Tunein Radio Pro

2013-10-04 Thread Alan Paganelli

That makes snse.  Thanks!
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There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
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website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: Craig Werner coffeeb...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: Problem with Tunein Radio Pro



I believe that as it was originally conceived, Car Mode allowed the
user to speak a search text into the device.  It was meant for drivers
to use in cases where they didn't want to type in the call letters of
a station; in other words, this was an issue of safety.

Craig

On 10/2/13, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:
I was just going to ask that very same question.  I too have the Tune in 
app


and am wondering what Card mode is and how it's used?
---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played 
on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on 
my


website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message -
From: Richard rqli...@rogers.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 5:26 PM
Subject: RE: Problem with Tunein Radio Pro



Well, unfortunately, I'm not alone I guess with it.  Hopefully a fix is
coming.  Just found out that WunderRadio is no longer being supported 
and


is
out of the AppStore.

On the tunein Radio front though; I managed to get some searches done in
car
mode.  Getting to the listing and tapping on the one you want can be a
bit
frustrating though.  By the way, what is car-mode for?

Richard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of eric oyen
Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 2:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Problem with Tunein Radio Pro

sounds like we need to bug both Apple and the app developer. They start
hearing from enough of us and they will get the hint.

-eric

On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:54 PM, BBS wrote:

Hi Richard. Yep, everybody's having the same problem with search 
results

not being displayed in Tunein with Voiceover. Some of us have written to
them about it but it's a question of when or if they're gonna fix it.


Shawn


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Re: Enhanced voice and rotor question

2013-10-04 Thread Shane clark
Hi I'm using U.S English. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 4, 2013, at 3:04 PM, BBS bigbigshawn@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi Shane. Did you turn off Use Compact Voice in the Voiceover settings? That 
 might fix your problem. Also, be sure to turn off Use Pitch Change as well 
 because that turns on the compact voice when you type a capital letter or 
 delete. Finally, what language or voice are you using?
  
 Shawn
  
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Re: A couple of Kindle questions

2013-10-04 Thread Phil Vlasak

Hi,
Kindle for PC with Accessibility Plugin keyboard shortcuts
http://www.amazon.com/kindle/accessibility

Toggle continuous reading is CTRL  Shift  C
Start reading (from top of page)
CTRL R

Pause/Restart reading (from current position)
Space Bar or F6




- Original Message - 
From: Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: A couple of Kindle questions


Your kindle books are stored on Amazon, so you can access them with 
whatever reader you wish.I remember, when I first installed the Kindle app 
onto my telephone, it also knew where I was in a book I had been reading 
on the pc, and started at that point.  There is a command in the pc reader 
to get it to read continuously,  I do not remember what it is. I haven't 
used the pc reader since installing the app onto my telephone.


Arnold Schmidt
- Original Message - 
From: Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com

To: Viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 2:17 PM
Subject: A couple of Kindle questions


I haven't yet used the Kindle IOS app. Also, I haven't yet upgraded to IOS 
7.


I plan to buy a Kindle book and am wondering whether I can load the book 
both on the IOS app and also on the accessible Kindle for PC. I am also 
wondering if either of the two apps has a mechanism for continuous 
reading. The original Kindle for PC had no such command.


Thanks.

Don Roberts

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Automatic iOS 7 download and space considerations

2013-10-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hello,

 

Jonathan as always explains things like nobody else and I do agree that the
automatic downloading of iOS 7 is maybe not something Apple should force on
people even though it is also not new since they did the same with iOS 5 and
iOS 6. 

 

Here is a point, though, which I wonder about:

 

People mostly complain that on something like a 16 Gb phone this update
takes up a lot of space and I would agree that it does. If you only have
maybe 3 or 4 Gb free space and this is almost 3 Gb it doesn't leave you with
much. If you use a 16 Gb phone but you don't really fill your device with
music and only use storage space for some apps, maybe a few books or
pictures, then you probably have at least 6 or 8 Gb free space in which case
it's a mute point if half of that space is used up by the update since
chances are you won't run out of space.

 

If your phone is so full that maybe you only have 1 Gb free I wonder what
happens then. I somehow doubt Apple randomly can delete stuff from your
phone to make room for the update, it is my guess that if you went to
Software Update in General Settings it would have an Download and Install
option since it could not download the update and if you tried it you would
be informed that there wasn't enough space. At that point you would have to
take off (un-sync) some music, pictures, books or apps depending on what you
have on your phone to fill it up should you want to install the update,
afterwards you could resync that content.

 

So, maybe this is something to remember next year as a work-around. If you
have a 16 Gb device and don't want a new iOS update to download, simply make
sure you fill your device with content and only leave maybe less than 2 Gb
free for use, this way there is not enough space for the update to download
and you are good to go. If you have 5, 6 or 8 Gb of free space or even more
then having the just under 3 Gb download sitting on your device is a mute
point. Should people have to do this? No, probably not, I think Apple should
put something into the Settings which just as you can turn off automatic app
updates allows you to turn off automatic iOS update downloads. They could
even have this set to On by default since then it's up to each person who
cares enough to not want this to turn it off.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

 

a quarter or and have a smaller 

First, it is my understanding that this only downloads via 

 

is a point, though, regarding space. People complain that if they have .

 

OK, 

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Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Christopher Chaltain
One thing to keep in mind here is that you didn't buy a blank memory 
stick or a device where you can load your own operating system. You 
didn't just buy a piece of hardware. You bought the operating system and 
you bought into the whole Apple ecosystem. You get a lot of advantages 
from the ecosystem, such as built in accessibility, a simpler interface, 
greater security, virtually no fragmentation and so on.


I agree that we have the right to ask Apple for different features, but 
I don't think access to every byte of memory on our iPhone is a right. 
The OS already takes up a certain amount of space. Every time Apple 
implements a new feature, the operating system gets a little larger. 
Apple could just increase the amount of space IOS consumes and build in 
an area of memory exclusively used for upgrades, and we'd be none the wiser.


Like I said, we can ask Apple to change, but supporting multiple OS's 
will cost Apple and app developers, and these costs will be passed onto 
the consumers. Apple has also been wildly successful with this model, so 
much so that Microsoft and even Google are starting to emulate this model.


On 10/04/2013 01:56 PM, Pablo Morales wrote:

Thanks Jonathan.
You explained it with  better words. You have been clear, direct, and
objective  to this point. Any body has rights on our property. We have
in the constitution the right for the property. Any body can fill the
storage memory of our devices with data that can not be remove, and the
only way to remove it is installing the operated system that
apple imposed to us. Apple created the way to push us to buy new
devices, making the iPhone 4  very slows, and downloading data to our
devices, filling space in our iDevices, and the only way to remove the
data stored in our devices is installing the operated system.
Raul, what did I game?
I don't see a lot of benefits in hand writing, or in the control center,
or in, what else?
Now if the cup is half empty or half full. Obviously is almost empty,
because the number of bugs of IOs 7  are a lot, not a few. The iPhone 4
is very slow, and apple forced me to install  the IOs 7 downloading it
and filling the memory of my iPhone, without my permission.
Neal , yes, is a way that is worse. the way is download the IOs 7
without our authorizations to our iPhones, filling memory space. Is no
way to remove that data fill by apple without our authorizations, the
way to do it, is installing the update, and pressing double tab on the
agree button. So, yes, is another way to do it. It is call forcing
people to press the agree button.
Alan, no, of course it doesn't install automatically. But it download
automatically. The way to recover that space, is obligate the people to
press double tab on the agree button.
Why I got an apple phone?
Because when I bought it, it was working nicely. But it is in the pass,
now apple forced me to install the update, filling my memory store with
an update that I didn't want to use. Now, If I buy the phone seeing how
it works now?
Never.
- Original Message -

*From:* Jonathan Mosen mailto:jmo...@mosen.org
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
*Sent:* Friday, October 04, 2013 12:24 PM
*Subject:* Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now
forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

Hi everyone, I have a lot more sympathy for Pablo's position than
many of you seem to have. Since I paid to test iOS 7, I was prepared
for the onslaught of negativity that I think is pretty justified for
a release that has more serious VoiceOver bugs than any other I can
remember.
As a tester, I could always go back, so as Raul very nicely put it,
I could decide whether I viewed the cup as half full or half empty,
or in other words, did the very real benefits offered in 7 outweigh
the annoying bugs that might tempt me to go back to 6. In the end, I
decided that I'd stick with 7, knowing that there'd be a point where
that decision was final and there'd be no turning back. This is a
decision that i took that is personal to me, based on the way I use
my particular device. Other's might make a different choice. That's
if they had the choice to make, of course.
End users had a relatively short time to evaluate iOS 7 and its
impact on daily usage before it became impossible to revert to 6.
When you throw a screen reader into the mix, that evaluation process
is even more complex.
The irony is that if your iOS device malfunctioned, and you needed
to get it replaced with a refurbished unit, if it's an iPhone 5 it
would come with iOS 6 on it today. So indirectly, Apple is
signalling that the way to get iOS 6 back again is to subtly break
your phone in a way that doesn't put it out of warranty.
If I upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 8, and find that the benefits
don't outweigh some of the annoyances I have with the new user
interface, 

Re: Automatic iOS 7 download and space considerations

2013-10-04 Thread Pablo Morales
Wow, this issue made me think about a situation very similar. For example, I 
have a little home, One bed room, one bathroom, a little kitchen and a little 
living room together. Even though, it is my home, I am the owner of my great 
home. I clean and put my home nice every day. I had to work very hard to buy 
this little home, and I love my home. even though, one day, The god apple said.
Every body has to paint their homes of red, and I think, oh no, I don't like 
the red color, no for my walls, it is a very stressful color, and I said no. 
But God apple sent a group of solders to my home, and they broke my door, and 
put in my bathroom, the gallons of paint, red paint, brushes, and steps, the 
whole tools to paint my home. Now I got my bathroom full of things that I don't 
want to use, but I am not able to take this things out of my home.
The only way that I have to do it, is paint my home of red, and no matter if I 
don't like this color, no matter if this color doesn't match with my 
furniture's, no matter if this color make me stressed.
Do you think that is fir?
do you think that is legal?
I don't see it legal, and I don't see it fir.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 3:28 PM
  Subject: Automatic iOS 7 download and space considerations


  Hello,

   

  Jonathan as always explains things like nobody else and I do agree that the 
automatic downloading of iOS 7 is maybe not something Apple should force on 
people even though it is also not new since they did the same with iOS 5 and 
iOS 6. 

   

  Here is a point, though, which I wonder about:

   

  People mostly complain that on something like a 16 Gb phone this update takes 
up a lot of space and I would agree that it does. If you only have maybe 3 or 4 
Gb free space and this is almost 3 Gb it doesn't leave you with much. If you 
use a 16 Gb phone but you don't really fill your device with music and only use 
storage space for some apps, maybe a few books or pictures, then you probably 
have at least 6 or 8 Gb free space in which case it's a mute point if half of 
that space is used up by the update since chances are you won't run out of 
space.

   

  If your phone is so full that maybe you only have 1 Gb free I wonder what 
happens then. I somehow doubt Apple randomly can delete stuff from your phone 
to make room for the update, it is my guess that if you went to Software Update 
in General Settings it would have an Download and Install option since it 
could not download the update and if you tried it you would be informed that 
there wasn't enough space. At that point you would have to take off (un-sync) 
some music, pictures, books or apps depending on what you have on your phone to 
fill it up should you want to install the update, afterwards you could resync 
that content.

   

  So, maybe this is something to remember next year as a work-around. If you 
have a 16 Gb device and don't want a new iOS update to download, simply make 
sure you fill your device with content and only leave maybe less than 2 Gb free 
for use, this way there is not enough space for the update to download and you 
are good to go. If you have 5, 6 or 8 Gb of free space or even more then having 
the just under 3 Gb download sitting on your device is a mute point. Should 
people have to do this? No, probably not, I think Apple should put something 
into the Settings which just as you can turn off automatic app updates allows 
you to turn off automatic iOS update downloads. They could even have this set 
to On by default since then it's up to each person who cares enough to not want 
this to turn it off.

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

   

   

  a quarter or and have a smaller 

  First, it is my understanding that this only downloads via 

   

  is a point, though, regarding space. People complain that if they have .

   

  OK, 


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Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Pablo Morales
Christopher, this point is not related with your point. The issue is not if 
the memory is blank. The issue is apple is obligating us to install IOs 7 
filling the memory with data that is not the operated system. So the issue 
is not the memory space fulled by the operated system. The issue is the 
memory that is occupating  the second operated system stored in the memory. 
The issue is that apple downloaded and full that memory without or 
permission.
So we are talking about 2 operated system stored in the memory, One 
installed, and other waiting to be install.
On the other hand, I don't see a lot of benefits to the users of IOs 7 in an 
iPhone 4. Security?
What security if the most part of the apple users don't jeilbreak their 
devices?
What security if is my right to keep my iPhone unsecured or secure. Is my 
right to run the operated system that works better with my device, my 
device, no the apple device. You know, right to the property.
I have the right to allow or do not allow the download to data to my device. 
More when the download is so big. Again, these are our properties, no the 
apple properties. They can create what ever IOs wants, but is our right to 
install it when ever we want, if we want.
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.



One thing to keep in mind here is that you didn't buy a blank memory stick 
or a device where you can load your own operating system. You didn't just 
buy a piece of hardware. You bought the operating system and you bought 
into the whole Apple ecosystem. You get a lot of advantages from the 
ecosystem, such as built in accessibility, a simpler interface, greater 
security, virtually no fragmentation and so on.


I agree that we have the right to ask Apple for different features, but I 
don't think access to every byte of memory on our iPhone is a right. The 
OS already takes up a certain amount of space. Every time Apple implements 
a new feature, the operating system gets a little larger. Apple could just 
increase the amount of space IOS consumes and build in an area of memory 
exclusively used for upgrades, and we'd be none the wiser.


Like I said, we can ask Apple to change, but supporting multiple OS's will 
cost Apple and app developers, and these costs will be passed onto the 
consumers. Apple has also been wildly successful with this model, so much 
so that Microsoft and even Google are starting to emulate this model.


On 10/04/2013 01:56 PM, Pablo Morales wrote:

Thanks Jonathan.
You explained it with  better words. You have been clear, direct, and
objective  to this point. Any body has rights on our property. We have
in the constitution the right for the property. Any body can fill the
storage memory of our devices with data that can not be remove, and the
only way to remove it is installing the operated system that
apple imposed to us. Apple created the way to push us to buy new
devices, making the iPhone 4  very slows, and downloading data to our
devices, filling space in our iDevices, and the only way to remove the
data stored in our devices is installing the operated system.
Raul, what did I game?
I don't see a lot of benefits in hand writing, or in the control center,
or in, what else?
Now if the cup is half empty or half full. Obviously is almost empty,
because the number of bugs of IOs 7  are a lot, not a few. The iPhone 4
is very slow, and apple forced me to install  the IOs 7 downloading it
and filling the memory of my iPhone, without my permission.
Neal , yes, is a way that is worse. the way is download the IOs 7
without our authorizations to our iPhones, filling memory space. Is no
way to remove that data fill by apple without our authorizations, the
way to do it, is installing the update, and pressing double tab on the
agree button. So, yes, is another way to do it. It is call forcing
people to press the agree button.
Alan, no, of course it doesn't install automatically. But it download
automatically. The way to recover that space, is obligate the people to
press double tab on the agree button.
Why I got an apple phone?
Because when I bought it, it was working nicely. But it is in the pass,
now apple forced me to install the update, filling my memory store with
an update that I didn't want to use. Now, If I buy the phone seeing how
it works now?
Never.
- Original Message -

*From:* Jonathan Mosen mailto:jmo...@mosen.org
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
*Sent:* Friday, October 04, 2013 12:24 PM
*Subject:* Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now
forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

Hi everyone, I have a lot more sympathy for Pablo's position than
many of you seem to have. Since I paid to test iOS 7, I was prepared
for the onslaught of 

Re: G Mail Account and Exchange Mail

2013-10-04 Thread David Chittenden
Actually, Google has disabled Exchange mail with gmail. If your client has a 
dedicated Exchange server at work, iPhone supports it very nicely, and has for 
at least the past three years.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 5 Oct 2013, at 7:51, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 There has been a lot of discussion on getting Exchange Mail on an iPhone by 
 setting up a G Mail Account.  I would appreciate it if someone who has 
 experience with the Braille Sense u2 contact me off-list as I am working with 
 an employee who needs to get Exchange Mail hopefully on this unit.  My e-mail 
 address is:
 kriegle...@gmail.com.  Thanks.
 
 Les
 
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Restoring and updating a jailbroken iPad

2013-10-04 Thread Shane clark
Hi all,
So I tried to update my wife's jailbroken iPad to the newest iOS software, and 
I got an error message with the number six or something beside it saying that 
the iPad couldn't be updated. I unplugged it and when I pluged it back in, it 
said the iPad was in recovery mode. Then it said that I had to restore the 
iPads software before proceeding to the update.
Is this how it normally works when trying to update or restore A jailbroken 
iPad? Should I have done something different, or are these the steps that you 
take in doing this? And what exactly is recovery mode, and how do you enter 
into it? I just got a message saying that the iPad software had been restored 
back to factory settings, so I think I'm on the right track. But just curious 
on how this works, because I've never done this before… I called Apple, and of 
course I knew that they weren't going to be of much help since the iPad is 
jailbroken, but the guy that answeredthe phone once I mentioned it was 
jailbroken, sort of had a for lack of a better phrase, smart ass tone in his 
voice when he said that would be the reason why you can't update… Maybe try a 
restore but I really can't help you any further… So I figured I would reach out 
to you all about it... 
Thanks for any and all input regarding this.
Shane.

Sent from my iPhone

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Not being notified of app updates in the lock screen.

2013-10-04 Thread Andrew Head
Hi all, 
I know if you have autonatic app updates turned on, you get a notification in 
notification centre, but are you supposed to get a push notification in the 
lock screen? and if so, where Do I turn this feature on?
kind regards, 
Andrew.

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iTunes: How to delete an album

2013-10-04 Thread Sandy Finley
I want to delete some albums I have downloaded onto my iPad. I see where it is 
possible to delete individual songs but not an  entire album with a single 
swipe or tap. I want to delete off of this device only, not from the iTunes 
library. If I wanted to do that I' use the PC. 

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Re: Not being notified of app updates in the lock screen.

2013-10-04 Thread Chris H
No you do not get any alerts at all. You will just see it in the 
notification centre.


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On 04/10/2013 21:07, Andrew Head wrote:

Hi all,
I know if you have autonatic app updates turned on, you get a notification in 
notification centre, but are you supposed to get a push notification in the 
lock screen? and if so, where Do I turn this feature on?
kind regards,
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Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread David Chittenden
So, you have two choices currently. You can go with Apple, who is focused on 
user experience. This company has learned that the vast majority of their users 
prefers the upgraded iOS to automatically be downloaded to the device so that 
they can update, whenever and wherever they choose in as easy a way as 
possible. With this model, the only way you can keep the system from setting up 
to offer the upgrade nice and ready for installation is to keep your memory at 
less than 1.5 GB of available storage as this is how much the update takes up 
if you do not start the process manually. If you do start the process manually, 
3 GB of space is required. Apple makes it very clear that, once you upgrade, 
you cannot downgrade again. Because of this, Apple stops supporting the 
previous version shortly after the new version is released.

Your other option is Android. Android gives almost the same level of control 
and customisation that one receives on a Windows desktop. However, phone 
manufacturers are free to modify the Android OS before you ever receive the 
phone. Unlike with Apple, where the previous three years worth of models are 
supported for upgrades, Android phones are well-known for the fact that upgrade 
availability can take a year or longer after release before your device upgrade 
becomes available from your product manufacturer / carrier. According to things 
I have read, Android does not have priority for supporting older devices with 
new OS, so you may acquire an Android device running the current version and 
never be able to upgrade. In many cases, this can be gotten around if you are 
technical enough to remove your OS and install a different / upgraded version 
of the OS, but this action may well 'brick' your device (as a friend recently 
discovered). If that happens, your only option is purchasing a new device.

In other words, nothing is perfect. No solution is going to make everyone 
happy. The question you must ask yourself is, which approach better matches 
you. Then, you must accept the trade-offs that you acquire with that device's 
approach.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 5 Oct 2013, at 8:59, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Christopher, this point is not related with your point. The issue is not if 
 the memory is blank. The issue is apple is obligating us to install IOs 7 
 filling the memory with data that is not the operated system. So the issue is 
 not the memory space fulled by the operated system. The issue is the memory 
 that is occupating  the second operated system stored in the memory. The 
 issue is that apple downloaded and full that memory without or permission.
 So we are talking about 2 operated system stored in the memory, One 
 installed, and other waiting to be install.
 On the other hand, I don't see a lot of benefits to the users of IOs 7 in an 
 iPhone 4. Security?
 What security if the most part of the apple users don't jeilbreak their 
 devices?
 What security if is my right to keep my iPhone unsecured or secure. Is my 
 right to run the operated system that works better with my device, my device, 
 no the apple device. You know, right to the property.
 I have the right to allow or do not allow the download to data to my device. 
 More when the download is so big. Again, these are our properties, no the 
 apple properties. They can create what ever IOs wants, but is our right to 
 install it when ever we want, if we want.
 - Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 3:35 PM
 Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 
 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.
 
 
 One thing to keep in mind here is that you didn't buy a blank memory stick 
 or a device where you can load your own operating system. You didn't just 
 buy a piece of hardware. You bought the operating system and you bought into 
 the whole Apple ecosystem. You get a lot of advantages from the ecosystem, 
 such as built in accessibility, a simpler interface, greater security, 
 virtually no fragmentation and so on.
 
 I agree that we have the right to ask Apple for different features, but I 
 don't think access to every byte of memory on our iPhone is a right. The OS 
 already takes up a certain amount of space. Every time Apple implements a 
 new feature, the operating system gets a little larger. Apple could just 
 increase the amount of space IOS consumes and build in an area of memory 
 exclusively used for upgrades, and we'd be none the wiser.
 
 Like I said, we can ask Apple to change, but supporting multiple OS's will 
 cost Apple and app developers, and these costs will be passed onto the 
 consumers. Apple has also been wildly successful with this model, so much so 
 that Microsoft and even Google are starting to emulate this model.
 
 On 10/04/2013 01:56 PM, Pablo Morales wrote:
 

Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Well, I think we'll have to agree to disagree then. I don't think these 
are rights. When you buy an Apple device, you're buying a piece of 
hardware, an operating system and you're buying into an ecosystem. 
You're saying, I want an easy to use secure system. I don't want the 
security issues I see on other platforms. I don't want to buy an older 
hand set and not be able to get the latest software. I want someone 
checking the apps I can install on my phone and make sure they work and 
aren't full of malware. I'm not necessarily a fan of Apple's business 
model, but I bought an iPhone, and I'm not going to claim my rights are 
being violated because I chose to buy into Apple's way of doing things.


On 10/04/2013 02:59 PM, Pablo Morales wrote:

Christopher, this point is not related with your point. The issue is not
if the memory is blank. The issue is apple is obligating us to install
IOs 7 filling the memory with data that is not the operated system. So
the issue is not the memory space fulled by the operated system. The
issue is the memory that is occupating  the second operated system
stored in the memory. The issue is that apple downloaded and full that
memory without or permission.
So we are talking about 2 operated system stored in the memory, One
installed, and other waiting to be install.
On the other hand, I don't see a lot of benefits to the users of IOs 7
in an iPhone 4. Security?
What security if the most part of the apple users don't jeilbreak their
devices?
What security if is my right to keep my iPhone unsecured or secure. Is
my right to run the operated system that works better with my device, my
device, no the apple device. You know, right to the property.
I have the right to allow or do not allow the download to data to my
device. More when the download is so big. Again, these are our
properties, no the apple properties. They can create what ever IOs
wants, but is our right to install it when ever we want, if we want.
- Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain
chalt...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing
iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.



One thing to keep in mind here is that you didn't buy a blank memory
stick or a device where you can load your own operating system. You
didn't just buy a piece of hardware. You bought the operating system
and you bought into the whole Apple ecosystem. You get a lot of
advantages from the ecosystem, such as built in accessibility, a
simpler interface, greater security, virtually no fragmentation and so
on.

I agree that we have the right to ask Apple for different features,
but I don't think access to every byte of memory on our iPhone is a
right. The OS already takes up a certain amount of space. Every time
Apple implements a new feature, the operating system gets a little
larger. Apple could just increase the amount of space IOS consumes and
build in an area of memory exclusively used for upgrades, and we'd be
none the wiser.

Like I said, we can ask Apple to change, but supporting multiple OS's
will cost Apple and app developers, and these costs will be passed
onto the consumers. Apple has also been wildly successful with this
model, so much so that Microsoft and even Google are starting to
emulate this model.

On 10/04/2013 01:56 PM, Pablo Morales wrote:

Thanks Jonathan.
You explained it with  better words. You have been clear, direct, and
objective  to this point. Any body has rights on our property. We have
in the constitution the right for the property. Any body can fill the
storage memory of our devices with data that can not be remove, and the
only way to remove it is installing the operated system that
apple imposed to us. Apple created the way to push us to buy new
devices, making the iPhone 4  very slows, and downloading data to our
devices, filling space in our iDevices, and the only way to remove the
data stored in our devices is installing the operated system.
Raul, what did I game?
I don't see a lot of benefits in hand writing, or in the control center,
or in, what else?
Now if the cup is half empty or half full. Obviously is almost empty,
because the number of bugs of IOs 7  are a lot, not a few. The iPhone 4
is very slow, and apple forced me to install  the IOs 7 downloading it
and filling the memory of my iPhone, without my permission.
Neal , yes, is a way that is worse. the way is download the IOs 7
without our authorizations to our iPhones, filling memory space. Is no
way to remove that data fill by apple without our authorizations, the
way to do it, is installing the update, and pressing double tab on the
agree button. So, yes, is another way to do it. It is call forcing
people to press the agree button.
Alan, no, of course it doesn't install automatically. But it download
automatically. The way to recover that space, is obligate the people to
press double tab on the agree button.
Why I got an apple 

Phone randomly saying voiceover on

2013-10-04 Thread Ioana Gandrabur
Hello,


I am experiencing a probematic behaviour on my iPhone 5 running iOs 7.
It just started yesterday although I have been running the new OS since its 
first day out. 

Out of the blue without working on the phone it says voiceover on as if 
something reset. I bet it's some kind of bug running in the background. Also 
mail freeses the phone so bad at times that I had to restart the phone 3 times 
since last evening. I tried hard reboot with holding dowm home and sleep but 
the VO announcement still happened again. 

Any ideas? I don't really want to restore the phone as new and loose all my 
settings. 

Thanks for any ideas. 

Ioana 





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Re: Automatic iOS 7 download and space considerations

2013-10-04 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Well, I think it's a bad analogy. I think a better analogy is that I 
want to buy a home in a maintained community where I don't have to worry 
about security or maintenance. The community will keep my walls fresh 
and clean. My carpeting will be replaced for me on a regular basis. My 
lawn will be mowed and trimmed for me. Now to save costs and make sure 
all of the houses in the community look as nice as possible, I don't get 
to choose exactly when my home will be painted or the carpeting 
replaced, and I have limited choices of colors. I'm OK if the 
maintenance crew needs to keep some paint and supplies in one of my closets.


On 10/04/2013 02:40 PM, Pablo Morales wrote:

Wow, this issue made me think about a situation very similar. For
example, I have a little home, One bed room, one bathroom, a little
kitchen and a little living room together. Even though, it is my home, I
am the owner of my great home. I clean and put my home nice every day. I
had to work very hard to buy this little home, and I love my home. even
though, one day, The god apple said.
Every body has to paint their homes of red, and I think, oh no, I don't
like the red color, no for my walls, it is a very stressful color, and I
said no. But God apple sent a group of solders to my home, and they
broke my door, and put in my bathroom, the gallons of paint, red paint,
brushes, and steps, the whole tools to paint my home. Now I got my
bathroom full of things that I don't want to use, but I am not able to
take this things out of my home.
The only way that I have to do it, is paint my home of red, and no
matter if I don't like this color, no matter if this color doesn't match
with my furniture's, no matter if this color make me stressed.
Do you think that is fir?
do you think that is legal?
I don't see it legal, and I don't see it fir.

- Original Message -
*From:* Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
*Sent:* Friday, October 04, 2013 3:28 PM
*Subject:* Automatic iOS 7 download and space considerations

Hello,

Jonathan as always explains things like nobody else and I do agree
that the automatic downloading of iOS 7 is maybe not something Apple
should force on people even though it is also not new since they did
the same with iOS 5 and iOS 6.

Here is a point, though, which I wonder about:

People mostly complain that on something like a 16 Gb phone this
update takes up a lot of space and I would agree that it does. If
you only have maybe 3 or 4 Gb free space and this is almost 3 Gb it
doesn’t leave you with much. If you use a 16 Gb phone but you don’t
really fill your device with music and only use storage space for
some apps, maybe a few books or pictures, then you probably have at
least 6 or 8 Gb free space in which case it’s a mute point if half
of that space is used up by the update since chances are you won’t
run out of space.

If your phone is so full that maybe you only have 1 Gb free I wonder
what happens then. I somehow doubt Apple randomly can delete stuff
from your phone to make room for the update, it is my guess that if
you went to Software Update in General Settings it would have an
“Download and Install” option since it could not download the update
and if you tried it you would be informed that there wasn’t enough
space. At that point you would have to take off (un-sync) some
music, pictures, books or apps depending on what you have on your
phone to fill it up should you want to install the update,
afterwards you could resync that content.

So, maybe this is something to remember next year as a work-around.
If you have a 16 Gb device and don’t want a new iOS update to
download, simply make sure you fill your device with content and
only leave maybe less than 2 Gb free for use, this way there is not
enough space for the update to download and you are good to go. If
you have 5, 6 or 8 Gb of free space or even more then having the
just under 3 Gb download sitting on your device is a mute point.
Should people have to do this? No, probably not, I think Apple
should put something into the Settings which just as you can turn
off automatic app updates allows you to turn off automatic iOS
update downloads. They could even have this set to On by default
since then it’s up to each person who cares enough to not want this
to turn it off.

Regards,

Sieghard

a quarter or and have a smaller

First, it is my understanding that this only downloads via

is a point, though, regarding space. People complain that if they have .

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Re: Phone randomly saying voiceover on

2013-10-04 Thread Chris H
It should be safe to restore from an iCloud backup should you wish to go 
down this route. Having no such issues on my 4s running 7.0.2 so far.


E-mail Facebook and iMessage
christopher...@gmail.com

On 04/10/2013 21:39, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:

Hello,


I am experiencing a probematic behaviour on my iPhone 5 running iOs 7.
It just started yesterday although I have been running the new OS since its 
first day out.

Out of the blue without working on the phone it says voiceover on as if 
something reset. I bet it's some kind of bug running in the background. Also 
mail freeses the phone so bad at times that I had to restart the phone 3 times 
since last evening. I tried hard reboot with holding dowm home and sleep but 
the VO announcement still happened again.

Any ideas? I don't really want to restore the phone as new and loose all my 
settings.

Thanks for any ideas.

Ioana





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Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Pablo Morales
very easy choice. I bought an iPhone that worked fine. I want my iPhone 
working fine, as it was when I bought it. The device that I have, is not 
that I bought.


- Original Message - 
From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.



So, you have two choices currently. You can go with Apple, who is focused on 
user experience. This company has learned that the vast majority of their 
users prefers the upgraded iOS to automatically be downloaded to the device 
so that they can update, whenever and wherever they choose in as easy a way 
as possible. With this model, the only way you can keep the system from 
setting up to offer the upgrade nice and ready for installation is to keep 
your memory at less than 1.5 GB of available storage as this is how much the 
update takes up if you do not start the process manually. If you do start 
the process manually, 3 GB of space is required. Apple makes it very clear 
that, once you upgrade, you cannot downgrade again. Because of this, Apple 
stops supporting the previous version shortly after the new version is 
released.


Your other option is Android. Android gives almost the same level of control 
and customisation that one receives on a Windows desktop. However, phone 
manufacturers are free to modify the Android OS before you ever receive the 
phone. Unlike with Apple, where the previous three years worth of models are 
supported for upgrades, Android phones are well-known for the fact that 
upgrade availability can take a year or longer after release before your 
device upgrade becomes available from your product manufacturer / carrier. 
According to things I have read, Android does not have priority for 
supporting older devices with new OS, so you may acquire an Android device 
running the current version and never be able to upgrade. In many cases, 
this can be gotten around if you are technical enough to remove your OS and 
install a different / upgraded version of the OS, but this action may well 
'brick' your device (as a friend recently discovered). If that happens, your 
only option is purchasing a new device.


In other words, nothing is perfect. No solution is going to make everyone 
happy. The question you must ask yourself is, which approach better matches 
you. Then, you must accept the trade-offs that you acquire with that 
device's approach.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 5 Oct 2013, at 8:59, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:

Christopher, this point is not related with your point. The issue is not 
if the memory is blank. The issue is apple is obligating us to install IOs 
7 filling the memory with data that is not the operated system. So the 
issue is not the memory space fulled by the operated system. The issue is 
the memory that is occupating  the second operated system stored in the 
memory. The issue is that apple downloaded and full that memory without or 
permission.
So we are talking about 2 operated system stored in the memory, One 
installed, and other waiting to be install.
On the other hand, I don't see a lot of benefits to the users of IOs 7 in 
an iPhone 4. Security?
What security if the most part of the apple users don't jeilbreak their 
devices?
What security if is my right to keep my iPhone unsecured or secure. Is my 
right to run the operated system that works better with my device, my 
device, no the apple device. You know, right to the property.
I have the right to allow or do not allow the download to data to my 
device. More when the download is so big. Again, these are our properties, 
no the apple properties. They can create what ever IOs wants, but is our 
right to install it when ever we want, if we want.
- Original Message - From: Christopher Chaltain 
chalt...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 
6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.



One thing to keep in mind here is that you didn't buy a blank memory 
stick or a device where you can load your own operating system. You 
didn't just buy a piece of hardware. You bought the operating system and 
you bought into the whole Apple ecosystem. You get a lot of advantages 
from the ecosystem, such as built in accessibility, a simpler interface, 
greater security, virtually no fragmentation and so on.


I agree that we have the right to ask Apple for different features, but I 
don't think access to every byte of memory on our iPhone is a right. The 
OS already takes up a certain amount of space. Every time Apple 
implements a new feature, the operating system gets a little larger. 
Apple could just increase the amount of space IOS consumes and build in 
an area of memory exclusively used 

Re: Calendars not syncing between ipad II and computer

2013-10-04 Thread David Chittenden
 Are you syncing your calendar appointments and contacts in Outlook with 
iCloud? If so, sync your iPhone with iCloud and this will sync your 
appointments and contacts with your phone. Otherwise, sync everything through 
iTunes on your computer.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 5 Oct 2013, at 5:10, Larry Lumpkin llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:
 
 Hi.  I have posted this several times and not received an answer.  I am 
 trying to sync my calendar and contacts between an ipad II running ios 7.02 
 and a windows 7 64-bit computer running MS outlook 2010 home and business.  I 
 have the latest ICloud control panel installed and running and appointments 
 going to the iCloud calendar.  My mail service is a pop-3 account.  I would 
 really like to have my appointments and contacts to sync and would really 
 appreciate help  in resolving this problem.  Thanks.
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Re: cnn news feeds in Lire

2013-10-04 Thread Craig Werner
Larry, do you have an update on this problem?  I don't subscribe to
any CNN feeds, but I follow Lire's development keenly.  Have you
notified Kunal Sood about the issue?  As you may know, his
responsiveness is first-rate.

Craig

On 9/21/13, Larry Lumpkin llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:
 Since I updated to ios 7, none of the articles retrieved by Lire for CNN
 will fetch text.  Is anyone else having this trouble?

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Re: Automatic iOS 7 download and space considerations

2013-10-04 Thread Pablo Morales
Ok, it is your right. You want a nice area, a secure area, you want alarm 
systems that protect your home. It is cool. But It is your right, not your 
obligation. My right is to use my iPhone how I  bought it, but that you call 
your choice to get a nice security, is no a right, it is a command. Command 
that brings a lot of bugs, make my Home so tight and unconftable, so now I 
have to be in my own hhome. So you can do what ever you want with your home, 
also I have the same right, You want better security. I want my home as I 
found it when I bought it. One thing is a command, another thing is a right.




- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: Automatic iOS 7 download and space considerations


Well, I think it's a bad analogy. I think a better analogy is that I
want to buy a home in a maintained community where I don't have to worry
about security or maintenance. The community will keep my walls fresh
and clean. My carpeting will be replaced for me on a regular basis. My
lawn will be mowed and trimmed for me. Now to save costs and make sure
all of the houses in the community look as nice as possible, I don't get
to choose exactly when my home will be painted or the carpeting
replaced, and I have limited choices of colors. I'm OK if the
maintenance crew needs to keep some paint and supplies in one of my closets.

On 10/04/2013 02:40 PM, Pablo Morales wrote:

Wow, this issue made me think about a situation very similar. For
example, I have a little home, One bed room, one bathroom, a little
kitchen and a little living room together. Even though, it is my home, I
am the owner of my great home. I clean and put my home nice every day. I
had to work very hard to buy this little home, and I love my home. even
though, one day, The god apple said.
Every body has to paint their homes of red, and I think, oh no, I don't
like the red color, no for my walls, it is a very stressful color, and I
said no. But God apple sent a group of solders to my home, and they
broke my door, and put in my bathroom, the gallons of paint, red paint,
brushes, and steps, the whole tools to paint my home. Now I got my
bathroom full of things that I don't want to use, but I am not able to
take this things out of my home.
The only way that I have to do it, is paint my home of red, and no
matter if I don't like this color, no matter if this color doesn't match
with my furniture's, no matter if this color make me stressed.
Do you think that is fir?
do you think that is legal?
I don't see it legal, and I don't see it fir.

- Original Message -
*From:* Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
*Sent:* Friday, October 04, 2013 3:28 PM
*Subject:* Automatic iOS 7 download and space considerations

Hello,

Jonathan as always explains things like nobody else and I do agree
that the automatic downloading of iOS 7 is maybe not something Apple
should force on people even though it is also not new since they did
the same with iOS 5 and iOS 6.

Here is a point, though, which I wonder about:

People mostly complain that on something like a 16 Gb phone this
update takes up a lot of space and I would agree that it does. If
you only have maybe 3 or 4 Gb free space and this is almost 3 Gb it
doesn’t leave you with much. If you use a 16 Gb phone but you don’t
really fill your device with music and only use storage space for
some apps, maybe a few books or pictures, then you probably have at
least 6 or 8 Gb free space in which case it’s a mute point if half
of that space is used up by the update since chances are you won’t
run out of space.

If your phone is so full that maybe you only have 1 Gb free I wonder
what happens then. I somehow doubt Apple randomly can delete stuff
from your phone to make room for the update, it is my guess that if
you went to Software Update in General Settings it would have an
“Download and Install” option since it could not download the update
and if you tried it you would be informed that there wasn’t enough
space. At that point you would have to take off (un-sync) some
music, pictures, books or apps depending on what you have on your
phone to fill it up should you want to install the update,
afterwards you could resync that content.

So, maybe this is something to remember next year as a work-around.
If you have a 16 Gb device and don’t want a new iOS update to
download, simply make sure you fill your device with content and
only leave maybe less than 2 Gb free for use, this way there is not
enough space for the update to download and you are good to go. If
you have 5, 6 or 8 Gb of free space or even more then having the
just under 3 Gb download sitting on your device is a mute point.
Should 

RE: cnn news feeds in Lire

2013-10-04 Thread Larry Lumpkin
I have notified him.  He got the USA Today feed to work but not the cnn yet.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Craig Werner
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 4:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: cnn news feeds in Lire

Larry, do you have an update on this problem?  I don't subscribe to any CNN
feeds, but I follow Lire's development keenly.  Have you notified Kunal Sood
about the issue?  As you may know, his responsiveness is first-rate.

Craig

On 9/21/13, Larry Lumpkin llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:
 Since I updated to ios 7, none of the articles retrieved by Lire for 
 CNN will fetch text.  Is anyone else having this trouble?

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Re: Automatic iOS 7 download and space considerations

2013-10-04 Thread Troy Sullivan
I only use my 4s for apps and have 11.1 gb on it. being that I have a 16 gb 
this is why I don't download music and delete books that I read when I do read 
after reading them.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 3:28 PM
  Subject: Automatic iOS 7 download and space considerations


  Hello,

   

  Jonathan as always explains things like nobody else and I do agree that the 
automatic downloading of iOS 7 is maybe not something Apple should force on 
people even though it is also not new since they did the same with iOS 5 and 
iOS 6. 

   

  Here is a point, though, which I wonder about:

   

  People mostly complain that on something like a 16 Gb phone this update takes 
up a lot of space and I would agree that it does. If you only have maybe 3 or 4 
Gb free space and this is almost 3 Gb it doesn't leave you with much. If you 
use a 16 Gb phone but you don't really fill your device with music and only use 
storage space for some apps, maybe a few books or pictures, then you probably 
have at least 6 or 8 Gb free space in which case it's a mute point if half of 
that space is used up by the update since chances are you won't run out of 
space.

   

  If your phone is so full that maybe you only have 1 Gb free I wonder what 
happens then. I somehow doubt Apple randomly can delete stuff from your phone 
to make room for the update, it is my guess that if you went to Software Update 
in General Settings it would have an Download and Install option since it 
could not download the update and if you tried it you would be informed that 
there wasn't enough space. At that point you would have to take off (un-sync) 
some music, pictures, books or apps depending on what you have on your phone to 
fill it up should you want to install the update, afterwards you could resync 
that content.

   

  So, maybe this is something to remember next year as a work-around. If you 
have a 16 Gb device and don't want a new iOS update to download, simply make 
sure you fill your device with content and only leave maybe less than 2 Gb free 
for use, this way there is not enough space for the update to download and you 
are good to go. If you have 5, 6 or 8 Gb of free space or even more then having 
the just under 3 Gb download sitting on your device is a mute point. Should 
people have to do this? No, probably not, I think Apple should put something 
into the Settings which just as you can turn off automatic app updates allows 
you to turn off automatic iOS update downloads. They could even have this set 
to On by default since then it's up to each person who cares enough to not want 
this to turn it off.

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

   

   

  a quarter or and have a smaller 

  First, it is my understanding that this only downloads via 

   

  is a point, though, regarding space. People complain that if they have .

   

  OK, 


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RE: Calendars not syncing between ipad II and computer

2013-10-04 Thread Larry Lumpkin
I believe I have done that but will check.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of David Chittenden
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 4:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Calendars not syncing between ipad II and computer

 

 Are you syncing your calendar appointments and contacts in Outlook with
iCloud? If so, sync your iPhone with iCloud and this will sync your
appointments and contacts with your phone. Otherwise, sync everything
through iTunes on your computer.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA

Email: dchitten...@gmail.com

Mobile: +64 21 2288 288

Sent from my iPhone


On 5 Oct 2013, at 5:10, Larry Lumpkin llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:

Hi.  I have posted this several times and not received an answer.  I am
trying to sync my calendar and contacts between an ipad II running ios 7.02
and a windows 7 64-bit computer running MS outlook 2010 home and business.
I have the latest ICloud control panel installed and running and
appointments going to the iCloud calendar.  My mail service is a pop-3
account.  I would really like to have my appointments and contacts to sync
and would really appreciate help  in resolving this problem.  Thanks.

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Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

First, since I’m running an iPhone 5, and its 32GB, this doesn’t really affect 
me.  But, if I was running an iPhone 4, with 16 or even 8GB, I think this would 
really piss me off.  And not to mention the space taken up by a download you 
don’t want, and had no choice in declining, your only option is to then install 
to free up the space to an OS which the hardware is under powered to use 
smoothly.  I think this is really the point of Pablo’s frustration.  He was in 
a total lose lose situation.  Have a big chunk of space taken up by an update, 
or, install the update and have your phone sluggish as all hell.  I’m just 
curious, are any of you guys running an iPhone 4?  I bet you aren’t.  lol.  If 
so, I think you would be singing a slightly different tune.

JMO.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 4, 2013, at 11:21 AM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Raul very well put. Yes Apple has downloaded software to your phone.
 Whether we agree with this or not I would be willing to bet lots of
 money that everyone agreed to this when they clicked I Agree at the
 time of installing software. Also as I and others have stated before a
 phone will not be upgraded unless you agree to the terms by tapping
 agree.
 The best suggestion I can give to someone if you don't like change or
 don't want to deal with bugs don't install a software package till
 others who are willing to deal with these issues have tested it and
 say it has no bugs.
 
 On 10/4/13, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:
 I find that really hard to believe that for no apparent reason and by no
 action taken on your part that iOS 7 just started downloading and installing
 
 on your iPhone.  Before the installation can happen, you would have to agree
 
 to the terms and conditions first. Are you sure that you didn't start it
 yourself?  Even accidentally?
 ---
 
 Regards,
 
 Alan
 
 Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
 
 Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
 Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
 
 Please click on:
 http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
 the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
 
 website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 1:43 AM
 Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6
 
 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.
 
 
 Well, it could be ridiculous for you. Even though, when I see that the IOs
 is downloaded automatically to my iPhone, without my agreement,  and it is
 filling space in my iPhone, and is no way to remove that  information
 stored
 in my iPhone, I don't see so ridiculous my email. Either apple.
 When an IOs update appear, every body is looking for improvements in the
 operated system, we are not looking for bugs, or steps back in our devices.
 So I don't see so ridiculous my email. Less when the apple devices are the
 more expensive devices, no when apple is a company that sales iDevices for
 a
 price that for the most part of the people on the world, are impossible.
 When you say that apple give us the right to use their software, but at the
 same time they are storing data in my iPhone with out my permission, and
 the
 only way to make that space free is installing the IOs 7, is not a freedom,
 it is not a right the god apple gives to us. This is a command from apple.
 so I don't see so ridiculous  my email.
 when we install a new IOs, every body is waiting improvements, not bugs,
 and
 not bunches of bugs as IOs 7  has. Even though, as you say, apple give us
 the right to use their software, thing that is not a right, it is a
 command,
 but their software is not working well, but we are not able to go back to
 the IOs that was working better, it is a right?
 No, it is not a right, it is a command.So, I don't see my email, ridiculous
 .
 Do not forget something. The device that you use, wasn't free. You paid for
 that, and you paid money that is not a little bit of money, it was money
 that could be the payment for  a whole year of work in many countries  on
 the world. Money that you paid, and it is money that   you paid because you
 were buying a good device. No a cheaper device.
 So, I don't see my email as you said. ridiculous .
 But let me tell  you in my opinion what is ridiculous .
 ridiculous  is when we pay to a company that created a good software, a
 good
 hardware, hardware and software that made a difference in your life. But
 later they changed the software, and you start to get problems with many
 things in your device, but you fill ok, because every IOs bring bugs. It is
 ridiculous , because you didn't pay with money cracked, you didn't 

Re: Usage question for yo.tv

2013-10-04 Thread Robert Fenton
Hello Ron:

Based on the note below, I see that you have experience with this program. I am 
wondering if you have found a way to prevent the program from refreshing the 
screen every minute or so throwing the cursor back up to single-digit channel 
numbers. If you have any advice, please pass it along. Thank you for your help.

Bob Fenton

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 1, 2013, at 7:50 PM, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Ioana,
 
 I will look at it again and let you know.  I haven't used it in a few weeks
 since I haven't had time to watch TV.  I do remember telling it to locate
 me.  Then I selected my provider which is Videotron and it came up with all
 the channels and all the programs.  It takes you to the current date and
 time as soon as you open it.  I do remember that you can set preferred
 channels since you probably don't subscribe to all the channels on the grid.
 I do remember that you can search for a given program and it will display
 all the channels dates and times when it plays.
 
 I'll be in touch off list once I have played around with it again. 
 
 Ron  Danvers
 
 
 Falling down is part of LIFE...
 Getting back up is LIVING...
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Ioana Gandrabur
 Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 1:49 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Usage question for yo.tv
 
 Hi Ron,
 
 
 Could you please give me some pointers on or off list about using yo.tv? 
 I set my provider, but bound that the app refreshed to often and confused
 me. I also did not find a way to customize chanal lign-up. 
 Any tips are very welcome. 
 
 Best,
 
 
 Ioana
 
 
 
 
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Re: Automatic iOS 7 download and space considerations

2013-10-04 Thread Ricardo Walker
lol,

Its the same analogy.  You just made it sound more pleasant.  haha.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 4, 2013, at 4:42 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, I think it's a bad analogy. I think a better analogy is that I want to 
 buy a home in a maintained community where I don't have to worry about 
 security or maintenance. The community will keep my walls fresh and clean. My 
 carpeting will be replaced for me on a regular basis. My lawn will be mowed 
 and trimmed for me. Now to save costs and make sure all of the houses in the 
 community look as nice as possible, I don't get to choose exactly when my 
 home will be painted or the carpeting replaced, and I have limited choices of 
 colors. I'm OK if the maintenance crew needs to keep some paint and supplies 
 in one of my closets.
 
 On 10/04/2013 02:40 PM, Pablo Morales wrote:
 Wow, this issue made me think about a situation very similar. For
 example, I have a little home, One bed room, one bathroom, a little
 kitchen and a little living room together. Even though, it is my home, I
 am the owner of my great home. I clean and put my home nice every day. I
 had to work very hard to buy this little home, and I love my home. even
 though, one day, The god apple said.
 Every body has to paint their homes of red, and I think, oh no, I don't
 like the red color, no for my walls, it is a very stressful color, and I
 said no. But God apple sent a group of solders to my home, and they
 broke my door, and put in my bathroom, the gallons of paint, red paint,
 brushes, and steps, the whole tools to paint my home. Now I got my
 bathroom full of things that I don't want to use, but I am not able to
 take this things out of my home.
 The only way that I have to do it, is paint my home of red, and no
 matter if I don't like this color, no matter if this color doesn't match
 with my furniture's, no matter if this color make me stressed.
 Do you think that is fir?
 do you think that is legal?
 I don't see it legal, and I don't see it fir.
 
- Original Message -
*From:* Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
*Sent:* Friday, October 04, 2013 3:28 PM
*Subject:* Automatic iOS 7 download and space considerations
 
Hello,
 
Jonathan as always explains things like nobody else and I do agree
that the automatic downloading of iOS 7 is maybe not something Apple
should force on people even though it is also not new since they did
the same with iOS 5 and iOS 6.
 
Here is a point, though, which I wonder about:
 
People mostly complain that on something like a 16 Gb phone this
update takes up a lot of space and I would agree that it does. If
you only have maybe 3 or 4 Gb free space and this is almost 3 Gb it
doesn’t leave you with much. If you use a 16 Gb phone but you don’t
really fill your device with music and only use storage space for
some apps, maybe a few books or pictures, then you probably have at
least 6 or 8 Gb free space in which case it’s a mute point if half
of that space is used up by the update since chances are you won’t
run out of space.
 
If your phone is so full that maybe you only have 1 Gb free I wonder
what happens then. I somehow doubt Apple randomly can delete stuff
from your phone to make room for the update, it is my guess that if
you went to Software Update in General Settings it would have an
“Download and Install” option since it could not download the update
and if you tried it you would be informed that there wasn’t enough
space. At that point you would have to take off (un-sync) some
music, pictures, books or apps depending on what you have on your
phone to fill it up should you want to install the update,
afterwards you could resync that content.
 
So, maybe this is something to remember next year as a work-around.
If you have a 16 Gb device and don’t want a new iOS update to
download, simply make sure you fill your device with content and
only leave maybe less than 2 Gb free for use, this way there is not
enough space for the update to download and you are good to go. If
you have 5, 6 or 8 Gb of free space or even more then having the
just under 3 Gb download sitting on your device is a mute point.
Should people have to do this? No, probably not, I think Apple
should put something into the Settings which just as you can turn
off automatic app updates allows you to turn off automatic iOS
update downloads. They could even have this set to On by default
since then it’s up to each person who cares enough to not want this
to turn it off.
 
Regards,
 
Sieghard
 
a quarter or and have a smaller
 
First, it is my understanding that this only downloads via
 
is a point, though, regarding space. People 

Wiping a phone

2013-10-04 Thread Donald L. Roberts
I am writing to make sure that my understanding of the term wiping a 
phone is accurate. It is my understanding that this means complete 
removal of all of the non phone apps, messages, contacts, passwords and 
lock codes. Is this correct?


Recently, an acquaintance purchased a 4S with a 2-year contract from 
Verizon.  Since it is a 4S, it was probably provided at no additional 
cost. Be that as it may, she now regrets the 2-year contract and wants 
me to take it over at a substantial discount.


Since I already have three other IOS devices, I want to be sure that I 
can put my purchased apps on this one. Also, I want to confirm that 
wiping the phone will not destroy the registered phone number.


I apologize if I didn't use precisely the correct terminology to 
identify my concerns, but I am sure that you get the idea. Thanks for 
feedback.


Don Roberts

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Re: Automatic iOS 7 download and space considerations

2013-10-04 Thread Victor Tsaran
From Apple's point of view, auto-update makes a great deal of sense.
1. They can quickly patch security holes that are introduced by hackers.
2. They can make sure your system always stays up-to-date. 
Google has been employing similar technique in their Chrome browser and 
users learned to trust and rely on this methodology.

So, I don't think the auto-update is as evil as many try to portray it.

Just my two cents.
V

 
On Friday, October 4, 2013 3:01:32 PM UTC-7, Troy Sullivan wrote:

  I only use my 4s for apps and have 11.1 gb on it. being that I have a 16 
 gb this is why I don't download music and delete books that I read when I 
 do read after reading them.

 - Original Message - 
 *From:* Sieghard Weitzel javascript: 
 *To:* vip...@googlegroups.com javascript: 
 *Sent:* Friday, October 04, 2013 3:28 PM
 *Subject:* Automatic iOS 7 download and space considerations

  Hello,

  

 Jonathan as always explains things like nobody else and I do agree that 
 the automatic downloading of iOS 7 is maybe not something Apple should 
 force on people even though it is also not new since they did the same with 
 iOS 5 and iOS 6. 

  

 Here is a point, though, which I wonder about:

  

 People mostly complain that on something like a 16 Gb phone this update 
 takes up a lot of space and I would agree that it does. If you only have 
 maybe 3 or 4 Gb free space and this is almost 3 Gb it doesn’t leave you 
 with much. If you use a 16 Gb phone but you don’t really fill your device 
 with music and only use storage space for some apps, maybe a few books or 
 pictures, then you probably have at least 6 or 8 Gb free space in which 
 case it’s a mute point if half of that space is used up by the update since 
 chances are you won’t run out of space.

  

 If your phone is so full that maybe you only have 1 Gb free I wonder what 
 happens then. I somehow doubt Apple randomly can delete stuff from your 
 phone to make room for the update, it is my guess that if you went to 
 Software Update in General Settings it would have an “Download and Install” 
 option since it could not download the update and if you tried it you would 
 be informed that there wasn’t enough space. At that point you would have to 
 take off (un-sync) some music, pictures, books or apps depending on what 
 you have on your phone to fill it up should you want to install the update, 
 afterwards you could resync that content.

  

 So, maybe this is something to remember next year as a work-around. If you 
 have a 16 Gb device and don’t want a new iOS update to download, simply 
 make sure you fill your device with content and only leave maybe less than 
 2 Gb free for use, this way there is not enough space for the update to 
 download and you are good to go. If you have 5, 6 or 8 Gb of free space or 
 even more then having the just under 3 Gb download sitting on your device 
 is a mute point. Should people have to do this? No, probably not, I think 
 Apple should put something into the Settings which just as you can turn off 
 automatic app updates allows you to turn off automatic iOS update 
 downloads. They could even have this set to On by default since then it’s 
 up to each person who cares enough to not want this to turn it off.

  

  

 Regards,

 Sieghard

  

  

  

 a quarter or and have a smaller 

 First, it is my understanding that this only downloads via 

  

 is a point, though, regarding space. People complain that if they have .

  

 OK, 

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Re: Wiping a phone

2013-10-04 Thread David Chittenden
Yes, all of the user specific data is removed. The phone is set up as if it 
were a new unit. That said, the phone number information will remain in the 
phone.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 5 Oct 2013, at 12:26, Donald L. Roberts donald.robert...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 I am writing to make sure that my understanding of the term wiping a phone 
 is accurate. It is my understanding that this means complete removal of all 
 of the non phone apps, messages, contacts, passwords and lock codes. Is this 
 correct?
 
 Recently, an acquaintance purchased a 4S with a 2-year contract from Verizon. 
  Since it is a 4S, it was probably provided at no additional cost. Be that as 
 it may, she now regrets the 2-year contract and wants me to take it over at a 
 substantial discount.
 
 Since I already have three other IOS devices, I want to be sure that I can 
 put my purchased apps on this one. Also, I want to confirm that wiping the 
 phone will not destroy the registered phone number.
 
 I apologize if I didn't use precisely the correct terminology to identify my 
 concerns, but I am sure that you get the idea. Thanks for feedback.
 
 Don Roberts
 
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Re: Calendars not syncing between ipad II and computer

2013-10-04 Thread Mickey Quenzer

I think what might be going on here is that the outlook sync to iCloud isn't 
working I have that problem haven't figured out a make that work either!

 On Oct 4, 2013, at 2:37 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Are you syncing your calendar appointments and contacts in Outlook with 
 iCloud? If so, sync your iPhone with iCloud and this will sync your 
 appointments and contacts with your phone. Otherwise, sync everything through 
 iTunes on your computer.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 5 Oct 2013, at 5:10, Larry Lumpkin llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:
 
 Hi.  I have posted this several times and not received an answer.  I am 
 trying to sync my calendar and contacts between an ipad II running ios 7.02 
 and a windows 7 64-bit computer running MS outlook 2010 home and business.  
 I have the latest ICloud control panel installed and running and 
 appointments going to the iCloud calendar.  My mail service is a pop-3 
 account.  I would really like to have my appointments and contacts to sync 
 and would really appreciate help  in resolving this problem.  Thanks.
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email question

2013-10-04 Thread Paul and Paula Jordan
Hi, all. I have an IPhone 4S running IOS 7.02.  I've noticed something odd
in the last few days.  When I open my mail app, if there are new messages
I'm put into the first message and asked if I want to read or dismiss.  If I
tap on dismiss, then I'm taken to the next unread message and asked the same
thing.  Sometimes I just want to look at the name and subject line and then
delete a message before opening it.  Is there a setting I should change in
order to not have my new emails opened automatically?  I don't remember this
happening when I first updated, but then again, my memory ain't what it used
to be. Thanks.  Hope this makes sense.

God bless!

Paula and Babe

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Re: email question

2013-10-04 Thread David Chittenden
I have an iPhone five running iOS 7.0.2. I have not experienced that behavior.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 5 Oct 2013, at 13:22, Paul and Paula Jordan pau...@roadrunner.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hi, all. I have an IPhone 4S running IOS 7.02.  I’ve noticed something odd in 
 the last few days.  When I open my mail app, if there are new messages I’m 
 put into the first message and asked if I want to read or dismiss.  If I tap 
 on dismiss, then I’m taken to the next unread message and asked the same 
 thing.  Sometimes I just want to look at the name and subject line and then 
 delete a message before opening it.  Is there a setting I should change in 
 order to not have my new emails opened automatically?  I don’t remember this 
 happening when I first updated, but then again, my memory ain’t what it used 
 to be. Thanks.  Hope this makes sense.
 God bless!
 Paula and Babe
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Re: email question

2013-10-04 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Double tap the In box back button at the top of the screen. this will 
take you back to the list of messages in your in box. The Mail app 
defaults to your last view when you start it up, so if you were in a 
message when you left it, you'll be in a message when you return. ditto 
if you're in the in box.


On 10/04/2013 07:22 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan wrote:

Hi, all. I have an IPhone 4S running IOS 7.02.  I’ve noticed something
odd in the last few days.  When I open my mail app, if there are new
messages I’m put into the first message and asked if I want to read or
dismiss.  If I tap on dismiss, then I’m taken to the next unread message
and asked the same thing.  Sometimes I just want to look at the name and
subject line and then delete a message before opening it.  Is there a
setting I should change in order to not have my new emails opened
automatically?  I don’t remember this happening when I first updated,
but then again, my memory ain’t what it used to be. Thanks.  Hope this
makes sense.

God bless!

Paula and Babe

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itunes and syncing ringtones question

2013-10-04 Thread Roger Frischenmeyer
So since I have a new iphone, do I need to do something to make my 
computer forget my old phone? because everytime I plug in my new phone, 
I get the tones letting me know that the drivers have been installed, 
but my phone never shows up in itunes. Any help appreciated. Thanks Roger


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Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Jonathan Mosen
Well said Ricardo, and there is actually a third choice other than use Apple 
and lump it, or change to Android. That is to determine whether Apple has 
breached consumer guarantee law in your country and pursue redress under that 
law. Even Apple is not above the law.
Frankly Pablo, I think going on about the US Constitution weakens your 
argument. But there are consumer laws which vary from country to country, and 
possibly in the US from state to state, that may help you here and there will 
be many jurisdictions where you have a valid case. I for one would like to see 
disgruntled purchasers take them on over this, and not simply throw in the 
towel and go to Android.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
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On 5/10/2013, at 11:11 AM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 First, since I’m running an iPhone 5, and its 32GB, this doesn’t really 
 affect me.  But, if I was running an iPhone 4, with 16 or even 8GB, I think 
 this would really piss me off.  And not to mention the space taken up by a 
 download you don’t want, and had no choice in declining, your only option is 
 to then install to free up the space to an OS which the hardware is under 
 powered to use smoothly.  I think this is really the point of Pablo’s 
 frustration.  He was in a total lose lose situation.  Have a big chunk of 
 space taken up by an update, or, install the update and have your phone 
 sluggish as all hell.  I’m just curious, are any of you guys running an 
 iPhone 4?  I bet you aren’t.  lol.  If so, I think you would be singing a 
 slightly different tune.
 
 JMO.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Oct 4, 2013, at 11:21 AM, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Raul very well put. Yes Apple has downloaded software to your phone.
 Whether we agree with this or not I would be willing to bet lots of
 money that everyone agreed to this when they clicked I Agree at the
 time of installing software. Also as I and others have stated before a
 phone will not be upgraded unless you agree to the terms by tapping
 agree.
 The best suggestion I can give to someone if you don't like change or
 don't want to deal with bugs don't install a software package till
 others who are willing to deal with these issues have tested it and
 say it has no bugs.
 
 On 10/4/13, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:
 I find that really hard to believe that for no apparent reason and by no
 action taken on your part that iOS 7 just started downloading and installing
 
 on your iPhone.  Before the installation can happen, you would have to agree
 
 to the terms and conditions first. Are you sure that you didn't start it
 yourself?  Even accidentally?
 ---
 
 Regards,
 
 Alan
 
 Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
 
 Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
 Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.
 
 Please click on:
 http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
 the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
 
 website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 1:43 AM
 Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6
 
 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.
 
 
 Well, it could be ridiculous for you. Even though, when I see that the IOs
 is downloaded automatically to my iPhone, without my agreement,  and it is
 filling space in my iPhone, and is no way to remove that  information
 stored
 in my iPhone, I don't see so ridiculous my email. Either apple.
 When an IOs update appear, every body is looking for improvements in the
 operated system, we are not looking for bugs, or steps back in our devices.
 So I don't see so ridiculous my email. Less when the apple devices are the
 more expensive devices, no when apple is a company that sales iDevices for
 a
 price that for the most part of the people on the world, are impossible.
 When you say that apple give us the right to use their software, but at the
 same time they are storing data in my iPhone with out my permission, and
 the
 only way to make that space free is installing the IOs 7, is not a freedom,
 it is not a right the god apple gives to us. This is a command from apple.
 so I don't see so ridiculous  my email.
 when we install a new IOs, every body is waiting improvements, not bugs,
 and
 not bunches of bugs as IOs 7  has. Even though, as you say, apple give us
 the right to use their software, thing that is not a right, it is a
 command,
 but their software is not working well, but we are not able to go back to
 the IOs that was working better, it is a right?
 No, it is not a right, it is a 

How do I select a shortcut to populate a text field?

2013-10-04 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Hi,

I have several shortcuts listed on my iPhone 5 running iOS 7.

In a text field, I enter my shortcut, but it seems only the shortcut text 
populates the edit field even though the expanded text is listed. When I go to 
the next field, the em shortcut text remains instead of the expanded email 
address.

What do I have to do to get the expanded text in the edit field when using a 
shortcut?

I hope this is clear.

Thanks in advance. Keith

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Re: How do I select a shortcut to populate a text field?

2013-10-04 Thread David Chittenden
Press space when your shortcut text is announced. If necessary, press delete 
after your shortcut text has been inserted to remove the space.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 5 Oct 2013, at 14:17, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
 kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:
 
 Hi,
  
 I have several shortcuts listed on my iPhone 5 running iOS 7.
  
 In a text field, I enter my shortcut, but it seems only the shortcut text 
 populates the edit field even though the expanded text is listed. When I go 
 to the next field, the “em” shortcut text remains instead of the expanded 
 email address.
  
 What do I have to do to get the expanded text in the edit field when using a 
 shortcut?
  
 I hope this is clear.
  
 Thanks in advance. Keith
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Re: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with UbiDisk

2013-10-04 Thread Brian Albriton
I’ve transferred books to the bard mobile app using the file sharing
method discussed here earlier. Only one of these is showing up on my
book shelf.
The books are all zipped up.

I see the one book that is showing up on the book shelf as well as two
others in the documents on my device section of iTunes. There’s also
something in the same tree view called inbox.
Why are the other two books not showing up on the book shelf. I have
repeatedly opened and closed the app and made sure I was connected to
the internet.
Perhaps this ubidisk program would have better results.

All the best, Brian



On 10/4/13, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 The instructions I saw said that you may need to close the BARD Mobile
 app out of your App Switcher and restart it for the books to show up in
 your book shelf.

 On 10/04/2013 09:59 AM, Rob wrote:
 sometimes I noticed that if you switch tabs, then go back to the book
 shelf, the newly imported  book will show up. also, did you sort the
 book shelf by the latest ?

 Thanks,
 Rob
 You can leave me a voice mail or fax at
 206-426-3505
 God is good all the time,  All the time God is good

 On 10/4/2013 6:35 AM, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
 I just tried this morning and there is no problem in getting the book
 from
 my pc to ubidisk but I have tried 3 times tapping share, open in, bard
 mobile and so far all it does is open the bard mobile app and nothing
 else.
 ***
When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in
 return, It
 matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.

 - Original Message -
 From: Rob musicmaker...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 9:06 PM
 Subject: Re: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with
 UbiDisk


 Did you get it to work?
 Now that Bard is back I can use UbiDisk to export books to Bard again.

 Thanks,
 Rob
 You can leave me a voice mail or fax at
 206-426-3505
 God is good all the time,  All the time God is good

 On 10/2/2013 4:35 AM, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
 I am doing  1 zipped book at a time. the same zipped file I downloded
 from
 BARD.
 ***
 When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in
 return, It
 matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.

 - Original Message -
 From: Rob musicmaker...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 9:41 PM
 Subject: Re: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with
 UbiDisk


 Are you transfering a Bard book?
 MP3 files want work. and only try one zipped bard book at a time.

 On 10/1/2013 6:12 AM, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
 Rob it worked the first time and now it doesn't seem to work for me..
 Here are my steps

 After using easy push to send a file to my iDeviceI then go to the
 download
 section inside ubidisk  and tap more info on the file I want
 I then tap share  then open in and chose bard mobile which brings up
 the
 bard mobile screen
 but I am not finding the new book.  What have I forgotten?  I thought
 I
 remembered seeing a progress bar the first time when it worked but not
 this
 time.
 ***
  When you give unto others whether or not they give to you in
 return,
 It
 matters not for your job is  Complete  and your rewards forthcoming.

 - Original Message -
 From: Rob musicmaker...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 4:17 PM
 Subject: how to transfer directly between BARD APP and pc with UbiDisk


 Transfering books from PC using Wi-Fi.

   I use a free app called UbiDisk.
   Easily transfer files from PC to your I Devices.

   It even comes with a free windows program with a context menu
 allowing
   you to select a file on your PC, press the applications key then
 choose
   easy push to send that file to your iPhone.
   Remember the Bard books must be zipped before sending to the
 iPhone.

   UbiDisk is great and has many uses!

 http://www.applevis.com/apps/ios/utilities/ubidisk-file-manager-downloader-easypush

 Be sure to install the Easy Push program for Windows.
 its very easy and convenient.

 Now here is how to send books or any other files from your PC to the
 iPhone, iPod or iPad.
 On your PC find the file you want to send to the iPhone.
 press the applications key
 choose send with easy push
 the easy push window will open.
 the list will be empty untill you start the Ubidisk app on the iPhone.
 then your iPhone will appear on the list.
 select it and press enter.
 your iPhone will ask if you want to accept the file.
 tap on accept to start the transfer
 when transfer is finished, tap on done.
 Now back on the ubidisk main window choose local files
 Once the book is sent to UbiDisk, find it, most likely to be in the
 Downloads folder if you used the easy push.

 right beneath the file name is a more info followed by the file name
 button. double tap to open it
 then look for the action button,
 then choose 

RE: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Ricardo,

I understand Pablo's frustration to some degree. However, Pablo has an
iPhone 5 and an iPhone 4 and he chose, and chose is the important word
here, to upgrade both devices to iOS 7. He complained just as much a year
ago when he upgraded from iOS 5 to iOS 6 which is why Raul posted what he
posted.

So, why don't we just agree that a number of people are not happy with the
fact that iOS 7 automatically downloads to their device. That one I do
understand and I would support them in asking Apple to make this optional.
What I don't get and don't support is the complaint about his iPhone 4
running slow on iOS 7. Maybe Voiceover does make a big difference, but I
know at least 4 or 5 people who have an iPhone 4 and who say iOS 7 runs just
fine and for the most part it's just as responsive. I also do recall some
people on the list saying that they feel some things may have slowed down a
bit but that overall it's a totally acceptable experience. There are quite a
few factors which make a difference as to how well a device runs and we all
know that even the same model can exhibit different behaviours. What's
important is that Pablo was fully aware of how Apple does things, he knew
the risks and he knew that he could not downgrade. If I had an iPhone 4 I
would have considered all of that before, I would have made sure I had a
manual restore file of iOS 6 downloaded to my computer and then I would have
upgraded right away on day 1, I would have spend a day or 2 assessing the
performance and, had I not been happy, I would have downgraded while it was
possible. I am fully aware that not everybody is that tech savvy and plans
ahead like this, but Pablo should have known better. He has definitely a
valid concern regarding the space that the update takes, but he does not
have a valid point when it comes to actually installing iOS 7 on his iPhone
4 since to my best knowledge he does also own an iPhone 5 which will and
does run iOS 7 very well.


Regards,
Sieghard


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RE: Restoring and updating a jailbroken iPad

2013-10-04 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Shane,

Yes, it is necessary to first restore a jailbroken device to it's original
state so to speak before you can upgrade to a new version of iOS. Anyhow,
sounds like things are back on track for you.

Regards,
Sieghard


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Shane clark
Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 1:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; accessible-...@freelists.org
Subject: Restoring and updating a jailbroken iPad

Hi all,
So I tried to update my wife's jailbroken iPad to the newest iOS software,
and I got an error message with the number six or something beside it saying
that the iPad couldn't be updated. I unplugged it and when I pluged it back
in, it said the iPad was in recovery mode. Then it said that I had to
restore the iPads software before proceeding to the update.
Is this how it normally works when trying to update or restore A jailbroken
iPad? Should I have done something different, or are these the steps that
you take in doing this? And what exactly is recovery mode, and how do you
enter into it? I just got a message saying that the iPad software had been
restored back to factory settings, so I think I'm on the right track. But
just curious on how this works, because I've never done this before. I
called Apple, and of course I knew that they weren't going to be of much
help since the iPad is jailbroken, but the guy that answeredthe phone once I
mentioned it was jailbroken, sort of had a for lack of a better phrase,
smart ass tone in his voice when he said that would be the reason why you
can't update. Maybe try a restore but I really can't help you any further.
So I figured I would reach out to you all about it... 
Thanks for any and all input regarding this.
Shane.

Sent from my iPhone

Sent from my iPhone

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Deleting Books from BARD Mobile?

2013-10-04 Thread Dani L Pagador
Hi, Everyone.

Is there a way to delete books from the BARD Mobile app? I had to add the
books I wanted to download to my Wish List from the site, then download them
using the app. Now I have to delete the duplicates that I put in using
iTunes and file sharing earlier this week. Any thoughts?

 

Thanks,

Dani

 

P.S. Is there a user list for the app, so I don't clutter this one up with
all my questions?

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