RE: Amedia Live Reader app

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Grant,

This sounds interesting if it works well, but I am also not quite prepared to 
shell out $40 Canadian (I assume it's $29.99 in the US) for a new app which 
nobody seems to have ever heard about. I also wonder about the following item 
in the feature explanation:

Hold the device flat (with the camera facing down) to take a still picture. 
This is useful when you're reading paper sheets on a desk.

I wonder if this means that one has no control whether you want to hear live 
scan results when holding the device flat because if so then I think this 
should be changed to give the user control over whether to take a still picture 
or to use video. I may have a bunch of mail I might not necessarily want to 
scan accurately but I might want to just go through it and identify what' s 
what. In that case I would want to sit at my table or desk and hold the phone 
above the mail to hear what it reads to me in live video mode.
Then of course there is the big question about how well it may read LCD 
displays on appliances or the computer screen.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Grant
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 7:18 PM
To: Viphone List 
Subject: Amedia Live Reader app

Hi all,

Wondering if anybody has tried this app, which apparently provides real-time 
OCR using the FineReader engine. I have not purchased it as I would rather wait 
to hear a few users’ reviews first.

Amedia Live Reader by Amedia Corporation https://appsto.re/ca/YCPa-.i

Thanks!

Grant

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RE: Changing my CC #

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Debbie,

Yes, you can change your credit card number on your iPhone 5S very easily, here 
is how:


1.   Open the App Store

2.   Make sure the “Featured” tab at the bottom left is selected

3.   Again make sure focus is on that tab, then swipe left twice which 
should put you on “Apple Id” followed by your Apple Id email. Double tap on that

4.   A menu pops up with the following choices: View Apple Id, Sign Out, I 
forget, Cancel

5.   Double tap on “View Apple Id”, you will be asked for your Apple Id 
password, enter it and double tap “OK”.

6.   After a moment a new screen comes up which has the heading “Account” 
at the top and a “Done” button at the top right
If you swipe right from that Done button, you find the following items (they 
are all links or explanations):

Apple Id, link
Your Apple Id email, link
Then it explains: Editing your Apple Id and Password will take you to
AppleID.apple.com, link
Swipe right some more and you find:
Family Sharing, link
Payment Information, link
Country/region, link
Explanation that follows says: This country/region is shared by your family. To 
change it, you must first leave your family.
Gifts, link
Ratings and reviews, link
Subscriptions (this is a heading level 2)
Manage, link (this refers to managing your subscriptions)
iTunes in the Cloud (another heading level 2)
Remove this device, link
Explanation: This device can be used with automatic downloads and can also 
download previously purchased music, movies, TV shows, apps and books.
iTunes Pass (another heading level 2)
Add iTunes pass to wallet, link
Easily add money to your account using wallet at participating retailers. Add 
iTunes Pass, then show it to the casheer when you check out.
iTunes Newsletters and Special Offers (another heading level 2)
Manage, link (this refers to the newsletters and special offers)
A final explanation at the bottom: Apple uses industry standard encryption to 
protect the confidentially of your personal information.
Lastly, two more links for “Terms of Service” and “Privacy Policy”.


7.   Obviously you want to double tap on the link for “Payment Information”.

8.   On the screen that follows you have a “Cancel” button at the top left, 
the “Account” heading in the middle and the “Done” button at the top right.
The first item after the Done button is an explanation: All family members 
share the payment method shown below. Codes you redeem will be applied only to 
your individual account.
After that comes a heading level 2: Payment Type
In my case, I have 3 radio buttons: Visa, Mastercard and Amex, Voiceover will 
clearly tell you which one is checked.
Next comes another heading level 2: Payment Card
Card number: Voiceover will read what is currently there as “4 bullets, 4 
bullets, 4 bullets and then the last 4 digits of the card you are currently 
using. It’s a text field so you can double tap on it and enter a new number.
Next comes the security code and Voiceover tells you it’s required. This is a 
text field and you have to double tap on it to put focus there so you can enter 
your 3-digit card verification code (4 digits for Amex).
Now comes another heading level 2: Expiration date
Swipe right and you hear “Month, bullet bullet, pop up button. Swipe right and 
you get year, 4 bullets, pop up button.
Double tap on either one and focus is placed on a picker control and you can 
flick down with one finger, it starts at 12 (December) and each flick down goes 
down to the previous month. The one for the year works the same. Once you 
selected you rmonth and year, flick left to the “Done” button and double tap it.


9.   Unless you also have to change your billing address which is what 
comes next, you are now done and you can double tap on the “Done” button at the 
top right.

10.   This takes you back to the main screen, double tap “Done” again at the 
top right and you are now back in the “Featured” tab of the App Store.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Debbie Downey
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 6:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Changing my CC #

Hi all,

I need to make changes to my credit card information; can I do this from my 5S 
or do I have to go through Itunes?

Thanks!

Debbie
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RE: Alarm Clock options?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Kerri,

As Richard said, you can select a song of your choice as your alarm sound. I 
assume most people will wake up in the time it takes for an entire song to play 
at which point you can turn on any music you like.

If you ever contemplate to invest in a Sonos Player or players, Sonos can wake 
you up with any radio station, streaming music service or play list you want. 
You set the time, the volume and the music and Sonos will start playing quietly 
and slowly increase the volume to the maximum you set. You can also set it to 
play for a certain period of time after it starts. If, for example, you usually 
know you need to get up at 6:30 and leave the house at 7:30 you can set Sonos 
to wake you at 6:30 and play for 1 hour then stop. Lastly, in case something 
happens and your internet connection is not working, Sonos will still wake you, 
but it will just use a generic tone to do so.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kerri Kosten
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 4:42 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: Alarm Clock options?

Hi Everyone:
Instead of the Iphone default ringtone for my alarm, I think I need the alarm 
to be top 40 music to wake me up.
Is there an app or something where I could set it to wake me up with a top 40 
station?
Is there any way to set the Iphone alarm to play the Top Pop station in Apple 
music instead of the ringtone?
I looked in the Iheart radio app and there is an alarm there but you have to 
apparently leave the app open all night in order for the alarm to go off.
Are there any apps where you can close the app and the alarm will still go off?
I looked in the Pandora radio app and there doesn't seem to be an alarm...
The problem is with the Iphohnes alarm I just roll over and turn it off...I 
feel like if a station like Top Hits or Top Pop or something like that would 
play that would wake me up more...any options?
Thanks,
Kerri

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Re: Question on Siri

[Mohib Anwar Rafay]

I think there is some tention going on these days between google and seeri!

On 6/8/16, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> I just asked SIRI exactly what Ed said and received this answer:
>
> Sorry, I can’t play song charts by genre, but I can find top songs from a
> year or I can create a country radio station for you.
>
> I am wondering why SIRI doesn’t know the top song from a particular genre as
> this information should be readily available, so let’s hope SIRI gets a lot
> smarter soon.
>
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Paul Sandoval
> Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 12:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Question on Siri
>
> Hi Ed,
> It works, except you can’t get it to play the number 1 song for that year,
> and it does not play charts by genre. Try saying “Play the number 1 song
> from June 1972”
> That will play “Oh Girl” by The Chi-Lites.
> I’m sure this is not what you wanted.
> You can have Siri create a classic country station, or possibly even a
> station featuring a particular artist like Pandora offers.
>
> I hope this helps some.
> Paul Sandoval
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Pinky
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 1:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Question on Siri
>
> Hi Everyone,
> I thought I read on this group one time that you could asked Siri “What is
> the number one country song in 1972” and Siri would play it. I have not been
> able to get my 6s plus to do that. So does anyone know if this workds or
> not?”
>
> Ed
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Re: How to check battery cycles in iPhone?

[Grant]

I'm not sure if it's 100% accurate, but I've been using the following 
third-party application:

Battery Life: check internal battery statistics by Robert Tkotzyk
https://appsto.re/ca/zeBBab.i

I hope this is of some use.

Grant

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 7, 2016, at 7:58 PM, Dr. Harshit Jaithwar  wrote:

Hi friends, like mac, is there any way to check, how many cycles of my phones 
battery has completed or remaining from it's purchase?

Normally got to know there are 300-500 cycles when battery is supposed to 
perform at it's best, so thought to check how many  cycles have been completed 
or remaining?
  Thanks!


Sent from my iPhone


 
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How to check battery cycles in iPhone?

[Dr. Harshit Jaithwar]

Hi friends, like mac, is there any way to check, how many cycles of my
phones battery has completed or remaining from it's purchase?

Normally got to know there are 300-500 cycles when battery is supposed to
perform at it's best, so thought to check how many  cycles have been
completed or remaining?
  Thanks!


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RE: Comprehensive Analysis of Apple's Big Reveal from a Blindness Perspective

[Merv Keck]

Hi Jonathan,

Thanks for the advice on the iblink app. I was not aware this app existed for 
the fourth generation Apple TV. I spent the evening enjoying Mushroom radio as 
well as several podcasts, blindy TV, and other entertainment sources I was 
surprised to see readily available on my TV. Thanks again. And I highly 
recommend the iblink radio app for the Apple TV fourth generation. 

Merv

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 8:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Comprehensive Analysis of Apple's Big Reveal from a Blindness 
Perspective

 

Hi Merv, I know iBlink radio carries Mushroom FM and there is a version for the 
Apple TV available for that.

You can also watch the keynote itself on Apple TV 4 using Apple's WWDC or 
Special Events apps.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org

 

On 7/06/2016, at 11:26 AM, Merv Keck  > wrote:

 

Jonathan or anyone:

Is there an Apple TV 4 recommended app for listening to Mushroom radio here in 
the United states?

I have an iPhone and of course could listen live on my PC on Monday. However, I 
thought it might be fun to listen via the Apple TV fourth Generation if 
possible.

 

 

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com [ 
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 6:16 PM
To:   viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Comprehensive Analysis of Apple's Big Reveal from a Blindness 
Perspective

 

Hi Ryan, I'll see if I can chuck it up on the Mosen At Large Podcast and also 
we may replay it on Mushroom FM itself, you may like to check the schedule

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

  http://Mosen.org

 

On 7/06/2016, at 9:44 AM, Ryan Mann <  
rmann0...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Will there be a recording of this podcast? I will be working during the chime 
sure I may not be able to listen to it.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 6, 2016, at 5:12 PM, Jonathan Mosen <  
jmo...@mosen.org> wrote:

Next Monday, Apple’s Worldwide developers conference begins with a big reveal. 
We’ll find out about many of the key new features in iOS 10, the operating 
system for iPhone, iPad and iPod Touch that will be released later in the year. 
We’ll learn about the name and feature set of the next version of the operating 
system for the Mac, which may even get a new name. There may be software 
announcements pertaining to Apple Watch and Apple TV, and who knows what other 
surprises Apple may have in store.

 

WWDC is aimed at developers, so the presentation can get a bit geeky. And due 
to limited time, a lot of information is flashed up on the screen in 
presentation slides that are not spoken about during the presentation. To get a 
straightforward, comprehensive analysis and summary of all the big news, you 
won’t want to miss our special Tech Team presentation on Mushroom FM right 
after the event.

 

One thing we promise. We’ll offer you detailed, constructive analysis. This is 
no Apple commercial. The team brings a range of perspectives to the show that 
will help you understand where Apple is innovating, where they’re catching up 
and where they’re behind. 

 

On our tech team for this show are:

 

Allison Hartley, so much of an Apple fan that she even includes the brand in 
her own Twitter Name, @AppleAlli. She’s also the co-host of the Tech Doctor 
podcast.

 

Steve Nutt knows his way around iOS and VoiceOver, but he’s a committed Android 
user and advocate. If you’re debating whether your next device should be iOS or 
Android, Steve will offer his views on how Apple’s announcements stack up from 
an Android user’s perspective.

 

Heidi Mosen is an iOS user and tech geek. She also is unique on the Tech Team 
show in that she has eyeballs that work. As already mentioned, these Apple 
presentations display a lot of information on-screen that isn’t discussed. 
Heidi will be taking copious notes during the keynote event, so she can answer 
detailed questions and comment on user interface and other issues she’s been 
able to see from the demos.

 

And I, Jonathan Mosen, will be chiming in, moderating the conversation, and 
doing my best to ensure you’re informed and entertained.

 

The Tech Team will begin by discussing the big news among themselves, then 
we’ll open it up for discussion to find out what you think. You can Skype us, 
or call us via numbers all over the world. Details about those numbers closer 
to the time. We’ll also be monitoring the #MushroomFM Twitter hashtag.

 

If you have an interest in tech from a blindness perspective, you’ll want to 
set two hours aside to join the 

Re: Siri, YouTube

[Jewel]

I have just done that and speaking as clearly as I could, I asked Siri to:
"Search Google for the spelling of the New Zealand town Kaiteretere" 
[pronounced Kie Terry Terry]. 
what returned was "Cannot find a New Zealand town called can I titty titty" so 
I tried again adding, 
this time, that it was a Maori name.  The answer came back:  "Cannot find a New 
Zealand town called 
Kite Titty Titty.
Now I thought that being told that it was a Maori word would have told the 
search engine that the 
word could not have a Y in it, let alone 2, as the Maori language does not 
contain that letter.
I ha'e ma doots that a paper letter addressed to Can I Titty Titty would have 
been delivered to any 
letterbox in Kaiteretere.

We do have a dairy-farming area called Waikikamukau[ pronounced why kick a moo 
cow" which has always 
struck me as rather apt, given the nature of the region, and the answer to the 
question could be:  " 
because it deserved it!"

  Jewel
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All you have to do to get SIRI to bring up google results instead of Bing 
results is say "Search 
Google for" followed by what you want to search for.
 

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Re: Alarm Clock options?

[Anthony Vece]

oOTunes will do it.


Sent from my Verizon iPhone SE

> On Jun 7, 2016, at 9:13 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I don't know about apps that would play a station, but in the iPhone Alarm 
> sound selection, you have near the top, "pick a song" where you can pick any 
> song on your device.
> HTH,
> Richard
> 
> 
> “The problem with people who have no vices is that generally you can be 
> pretty sure they're going to have some pretty annoying virtues.”
> Elizabeth Taylor
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
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>> On Jun 7, 2016, at 4:42 PM, Kerri Kosten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Everyone:
>> Instead of the Iphone default ringtone for my alarm, I think I need
>> the alarm to be top 40 music to wake me up.
>> Is there an app or something where I could set it to wake me up with a
>> top 40 station?
>> Is there any way to set the Iphone alarm to play the Top Pop station
>> in Apple music instead of the ringtone?
>> I looked in the Iheart radio app and there is an alarm there but you
>> have to apparently leave the app open all night in order for the alarm
>> to go off.
>> Are there any apps where you can close the app and the alarm will still go 
>> off?
>> I looked in the Pandora radio app and there doesn't seem to be an alarm...
>> The problem is with the Iphohnes alarm I just roll over and turn it
>> off...I feel like if a station like Top Hits or Top Pop or something
>> like that would play that would wake me up more...any options?
>> Thanks,
>> Kerri
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Amedia Live Reader app

[Grant]

Hi all,

Wondering if anybody has tried this app, which apparently provides real-time 
OCR using the FineReader engine. I have not purchased it as I would rather wait 
to hear a few users’ reviews first.

Amedia Live Reader by Amedia Corporation
https://appsto.re/ca/YCPa-.i

Thanks!

Grant

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Re: RENAMING PICTURES

[Grant]

If you use a Mac and you’ve enabled iCloud Photo Library, you can assign 
descriptions to photos in the Photos App on your Mac. These will be reflected 
when browsing pictures on your iPhone. I’m not aware of any other way to do 
this using the native photos library.

Grant

> On Monday May 30, 2016, at 5:15:16 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
>I'm wondering if anyone has tried any of the apps that allow you to rename 
> photographs immediately you've taken them and which ones you've found have 
> worked well and which are not worth the money?
> 
> 
> I notice there are a few free ones but some seem not to have been updated for 
> at least three years, which is probably quite a time in the Apple world and 
> I'd like to find something, not overly complicated that has features I ccan 
> use and does the job well.
> 
> 
> I'm just beginning to get into photoes and am really finding it a little 
> daunting, mainly because I seem to be getting so many pictures that are 
> currently not identified and I want to get them sorted and let them stay that 
> way.
> 
> 
> Thanks for any help in this respect.
> 
> 
> Carol P

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Changing my CC #

[Debbie Downey]

Hi all,

 

I need to make changes to my credit card information; can I do this from my
5S or do I have to go through Itunes?

 

Thanks!

 

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Re: Siri

[Christopher Chaltain]

I personally don't think there's anything to worry about here. If a 
personal assistant makes something easier for you then that just means 
you have more time to work on another skill. The same argument can be 
made for any piece of technology, any tool or any time saving machine.


On 07/06/16 11:41, Marie wrote:

I am probably going to be unpopular when I say this but...
Are we wanting to depend too much on the personal assistants these days.
It seems that some want them to do everything for them instead of
keeping our skills up by doing some things on our own? I am happy to use
dictation when I want to whip up a text message without taking too long
but if I need further communication, either the phone or email is much
better and I do it without any personal assistant intervening.
Tools which make our life easier are fine but I think there is a limit
to what they need to do. JMT
Marie


-Original Message- From: Alan Paganelli
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 6:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri

As I understand it, in iOS 10, Siri gets greatly improved and you should
be able to talk to her just like talking to a neighbor or friend.
Personally, I'm just waiting to see that for myself.  I do know this
though.  Sooner or later it will happen.

Alan

Sent from my iPad Air


On Jun 6, 2016, at 8:26 AM, Deidre Muccio 
wrote:

Can someone explain the difference between series recognition of a
question and a search engine like you to who you can speak naturally
two, ask a question with very loose language and it comes up with very
accurate results?

Deidre

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Re: Firefox Web browser

[Christopher Chaltain]

Although all of the browsers use the same underlying engine, performance 
can still differ quite a bit. Here's a web page where you'll see that 
Firefox compares favorably with Safari, while Chrome and Opera lag a bit 
behind: 
http://www.zdnet.com/article/and-the-best-web-browser-for-the-iphone-is/


There may be plenty of reasons to choose one web browser over another. 
One may have a simpler or more intuitive interface for a particular 
user. The reason I prefer Firefox is because I use that browser across 
all of my platforms, Windows, Linux, Android and IOS, and I can keep my 
information synced across any instance of Firefox I run on any platform.


The Reader function in Safari is definitely a reason to stick with 
Safari. I'm not sure if this has an analogous function in Firefox or 
not, but I hope so, and I need to take a look for it.


Bottom line is there are plenty of reasons to use one browser or app 
over another. If they were all the same then there wouldn't be so many 
options. Give them a try and use the one that feels the best to you.


On 07/06/16 19:41, Mike Arrigo wrote:

Actually, on I O S, firefox uses the safari engine to display web pages, so the 
pages will read the same way they do in safari, therefore, while it's good that 
firefox is accessible, I'm not sure if there is really any benefit to using it 
over safari.

On Jun 7, 2016, at 5:01 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:

I wasn't aware that Firefox was accessible for the iPhone. I know on platforms 
like windows, there is a reader that makes it like the safari reader. Is that 
feature available on the iPhone version? I really like the safari reader. I 
wouldn't be willing to give that up.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

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Hi all,
I just thought I'd mention how much I'm enjoying the FireFox browser on the 
iPhone. It appears very straightforward and I particularly like that it's 
easier and more consistent when it comes to closing opened pages:
If anyone hasn't given it a look, I'd recommend you may wish to do so.




Carol P
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Re: Alarm Clock options?

[Richard Turner]

I don't know about apps that would play a station, but in the iPhone Alarm 
sound selection, you have near the top, "pick a song" where you can pick any 
song on your device.
HTH,
Richard


“The problem with people who have no vices is that generally you can be pretty 
sure they're going to have some pretty annoying virtues.”
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(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

> On Jun 7, 2016, at 4:42 PM, Kerri Kosten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Everyone:
> Instead of the Iphone default ringtone for my alarm, I think I need
> the alarm to be top 40 music to wake me up.
> Is there an app or something where I could set it to wake me up with a
> top 40 station?
> Is there any way to set the Iphone alarm to play the Top Pop station
> in Apple music instead of the ringtone?
> I looked in the Iheart radio app and there is an alarm there but you
> have to apparently leave the app open all night in order for the alarm
> to go off.
> Are there any apps where you can close the app and the alarm will still go 
> off?
> I looked in the Pandora radio app and there doesn't seem to be an alarm...
> The problem is with the Iphohnes alarm I just roll over and turn it
> off...I feel like if a station like Top Hits or Top Pop or something
> like that would play that would wake me up more...any options?
> Thanks,
> Kerri
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Re: Firefox Web browser

[Mike Arrigo]

Actually, on I O S, firefox uses the safari engine to display web pages, so the 
pages will read the same way they do in safari, therefore, while it's good that 
firefox is accessible, I'm not sure if there is really any benefit to using it 
over safari.
> On Jun 7, 2016, at 5:01 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> I wasn't aware that Firefox was accessible for the iPhone. I know on 
> platforms like windows, there is a reader that makes it like the safari 
> reader. Is that feature available on the iPhone version? I really like the 
> safari reader. I wouldn't be willing to give that up.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 7, 2016, at 2:34 PM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> I just thought I'd mention how much I'm enjoying the FireFox browser on the 
>> iPhone. It appears very straightforward and I particularly like that it's 
>> easier and more consistent when it comes to closing opened pages:
>> If anyone hasn't given it a look, I'd recommend you may wish to do so.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Carol P
>> Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
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Alarm Clock options?

[Kerri Kosten]

Hi Everyone:
Instead of the Iphone default ringtone for my alarm, I think I need
the alarm to be top 40 music to wake me up.
Is there an app or something where I could set it to wake me up with a
top 40 station?
Is there any way to set the Iphone alarm to play the Top Pop station
in Apple music instead of the ringtone?
I looked in the Iheart radio app and there is an alarm there but you
have to apparently leave the app open all night in order for the alarm
to go off.
Are there any apps where you can close the app and the alarm will still go off?
I looked in the Pandora radio app and there doesn't seem to be an alarm...
The problem is with the Iphohnes alarm I just roll over and turn it
off...I feel like if a station like Top Hits or Top Pop or something
like that would play that would wake me up more...any options?
Thanks,
Kerri

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RE: RENAMING PICTURES

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Tom,

What you are doing is simply applying a custom label to the file name and that 
of course is only valid with Voiceover. You can’t rename picture files unless 
of course you save them to your PC and do it there with the help of a sighted 
person.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Tom Lange
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 2:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RENAMING PICTURES

Hi Richard,
Thanks for the tip. I've successfully assigned labels to several pictures in my 
camera roll.  While this method is certainly useful for helping me keep track 
of which photo is which, I should point out that  it doesn't actually rename 
the file itself, as I discovered when I e-mailed a picture to a buddy of mine. 
The file that he received as an attachment was called "img084.jpg" or something 
like that. It would be really great if there was a way to rename the file 
rather than update VoiceOver's graphics dictionary, if there is such a beast.
Tom

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 3, 2016, at 3:11 PM, Richard Turner 
> wrote:

I've not used any of the apps. I use the two-finger-double-tap-and-hold gesture 
to name photos.
Richard

“The problem with people who have no vices is that generally you can be pretty 
sure they're going to have some pretty annoying virtues.”
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On Jun 3, 2016, at 9:30 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> wrote:
This didn't appear to make it so here goes again! Apologies if you have seen it 
before!


Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

Begin forwarded message:
From: Carol Pearson 
>
Date: 30 May 2016 at 13:15:16 BST
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" 
>
Subject: RENAMING PICTURES
Reply-To: carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
   I'm wondering if anyone has tried any of the apps that allow you to rename 
photographs immediately you've taken them and which ones you've found have 
worked well and which are not worth the money?


I notice there are a few free ones but some seem not to have been updated for 
at least three years, which is probably quite a time in the Apple world and I'd 
like to find something, not overly complicated that has features I ccan use and 
does the job well.


I'm just beginning to get into photoes and am really finding it a little 
daunting, mainly because I seem to be getting so many pictures that are 
currently not identified and I want to get them sorted and let them stay that 
way.


Thanks for any help in this respect.


Carol P

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Questions regarding offer up

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,

I was wondering, have any of you tried to use the application, offer up?
I installed it about a month ago, and found it very inaccessible. I was 
wondering, is there a work around, to make this application more accessible?
If not, is there a craigslist application that is completely accessible, or 
close enough anyway? Any help with this would be very much appreciated. Or use 
craigslist a lot, which I probably shouldn't. But don't worry I like Amazon 
also. LOL! And sometimes even Best Buy. But I'd like to go into that store. Not 
buy stuff online from them.
Thank you very much!

Terri

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Re: Firefox Web browser

[Mary Otten]

I wasn't aware that Firefox was accessible for the iPhone. I know on platforms 
like windows, there is a reader that makes it like the safari reader. Is that 
feature available on the iPhone version? I really like the safari reader. I 
wouldn't be willing to give that up.
Mary


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> I just thought I'd mention how much I'm enjoying the FireFox browser on the 
> iPhone. It appears very straightforward and I particularly like that it's 
> easier and more consistent when it comes to closing opened pages:
> If anyone hasn't given it a look, I'd recommend you may wish to do so.
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Re: RENAMING PICTURES

[Tom Lange]

Hi Richard,
Thanks for the tip. I've successfully assigned labels to several pictures in my 
camera roll.  While this method is certainly useful for helping me keep track 
of which photo is which, I should point out that  it doesn't actually rename 
the file itself, as I discovered when I e-mailed a picture to a buddy of mine. 
The file that he received as an attachment was called "img084.jpg" or something 
like that. It would be really great if there was a way to rename the file 
rather than update VoiceOver's graphics dictionary, if there is such a beast.
Tom 

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> On Jun 3, 2016, at 3:11 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I've not used any of the apps. I use the two-finger-double-tap-and-hold 
> gesture to name photos.
> Richard
> 
> 
> “The problem with people who have no vices is that generally you can be 
> pretty sure they're going to have some pretty annoying virtues.”
> Elizabeth Taylor
> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
> 
>> On Jun 3, 2016, at 9:30 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> This didn't appear to make it so here goes again! Apologies if you have seen 
>> it before!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Carol P
>> Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>> From: Carol Pearson 
>> Date: 30 May 2016 at 13:15:16 BST
>> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" 
>> Subject: RENAMING PICTURES
>> Reply-To: carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
>> 
>>I'm wondering if anyone has tried any of the apps that allow you to 
>> rename photographs immediately you've taken them and which ones you've found 
>> have worked well and which are not worth the money?
>> 
>> 
>> I notice there are a few free ones but some seem not to have been updated 
>> for at least three years, which is probably quite a time in the Apple world 
>> and I'd like to find something, not overly complicated that has features I 
>> ccan use and does the job well.
>> 
>> 
>> I'm just beginning to get into photoes and am really finding it a little 
>> daunting, mainly because I seem to be getting so many pictures that are 
>> currently not identified and I want to get them sorted and let them stay 
>> that way.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for any help in this respect.
>> 
>> 
>> Carol P
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Firefox Web browser

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

Hi all,
I just thought I'd mention how much I'm enjoying the FireFox browser on the 
iPhone. It appears very straightforward and I particularly like that it's 
easier and more consistent when it comes to closing opened pages:
If anyone hasn't given it a look, I'd recommend you may wish to do so.




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Question about the If app for the If This Then That site VoiceOver iOS 9.3.2

[Shai]

Hello all,
Yesterday, I created an account with the ifttt (If this then that)
website on the computer and attempted to download their app for iOs.
After downloading it and opening the app, I tapped on the sign in
button which asked for my user name or email. I double tapped on the
text field to attempt to enter my information but I noticed that I
could not type since no onscreen letters were announced using
VoiceOver.  I also tried closing out the app in the switcher and
reopening it with the same result. Is there another app I could use
which works with this site or a work around that others can suggest?
At this point, I am just trying to play with it and look at the skills
or "recipes" that are there to possibly add a few.
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RE: Question on Siri

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I just asked SIRI exactly what Ed said and received this answer:

Sorry, I can’t play song charts by genre, but I can find top songs from a year 
or I can create a country radio station for you.

I am wondering why SIRI doesn’t know the top song from a particular genre as 
this information should be readily available, so let’s hope SIRI gets a lot 
smarter soon.


Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul Sandoval
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 12:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Question on Siri

Hi Ed,
It works, except you can’t get it to play the number 1 song for that year, and 
it does not play charts by genre. Try saying “Play the number 1 song from June 
1972”
That will play “Oh Girl” by The Chi-Lites.
I’m sure this is not what you wanted.
You can have Siri create a classic country station, or possibly even a station 
featuring a particular artist like Pandora offers.

I hope this helps some.
Paul Sandoval

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Pinky
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 1:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question on Siri

Hi Everyone,
I thought I read on this group one time that you could asked Siri “What is the 
number one country song in 1972” and Siri would play it. I have not been able 
to get my 6s plus to do that. So does anyone know if this workds or not?”

Ed
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RE: Question on Siri

[Paul Sandoval]

Hi Ed,
It works, except you can’t get it to play the number 1 song for that year, and 
it does not play charts by genre. Try saying “Play the number 1 song from June 
1972”
That will play “Oh Girl” by The Chi-Lites.
I’m sure this is not what you wanted.
You can have Siri create a classic country station, or possibly even a station 
featuring a particular artist like Pandora offers.

I hope this helps some.
Paul Sandoval

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Pinky
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 1:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Question on Siri

Hi Everyone,
I thought I read on this group one time that you could asked Siri “What is the 
number one country song in 1972” and Siri would play it. I have not been able 
to get my 6s plus to do that. So does anyone know if this workds or not?”

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Question on Siri

[Pinky]

Hi Everyone,

I thought I read on this group one time that you could asked Siri "What is
the number one country song in 1972" and Siri would play it. I have not been
able to get my 6s plus to do that. So does anyone know if this workds or
not?

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Re: Comprehensive Analysis of Apple's Big Reveal from a Blindness Perspective

[christopher hallsworth]

Yes and I hope to tune into the presentation on my Apple TV 3rd generation as 
it will be days after my possible new line installation at my apartment.
> On 6 Jun 2016, at 22:12, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:
> 
> Next Monday, Apple’s Worldwide developers conference begins with a big 
> reveal. We’ll find out about many of the key new features in iOS 10, the 
> operating system for iPhone, iPad and iPod Touch that will be released later 
> in the year. We’ll learn about the name and feature set of the next version 
> of the operating system for the Mac, which may even get a new name. There may 
> be software announcements pertaining to Apple Watch and Apple TV, and who 
> knows what other surprises Apple may have in store.
> 
> WWDC is aimed at developers, so the presentation can get a bit geeky. And due 
> to limited time, a lot of information is flashed up on the screen in 
> presentation slides that are not spoken about during the presentation. To get 
> a straightforward, comprehensive analysis and summary of all the big news, 
> you won’t want to miss our special Tech Team presentation on Mushroom FM 
> right after the event.
> 
> One thing we promise. We’ll offer you detailed, constructive analysis. This 
> is no Apple commercial. The team brings a range of perspectives to the show 
> that will help you understand where Apple is innovating, where they’re 
> catching up and where they’re behind. 
> 
> On our tech team for this show are:
> 
> Allison Hartley, so much of an Apple fan that she even includes the brand in 
> her own Twitter Name, @AppleAlli. She’s also the co-host of the Tech Doctor 
> podcast.
> 
> Steve Nutt knows his way around iOS and VoiceOver, but he’s a committed 
> Android user and advocate. If you’re debating whether your next device should 
> be iOS or Android, Steve will offer his views on how Apple’s announcements 
> stack up from an Android user’s perspective.
> 
> Heidi Mosen is an iOS user and tech geek. She also is unique on the Tech Team 
> show in that she has eyeballs that work. As already mentioned, these Apple 
> presentations display a lot of information on-screen that isn’t discussed. 
> Heidi will be taking copious notes during the keynote event, so she can 
> answer detailed questions and comment on user interface and other issues 
> she’s been able to see from the demos.
> 
> And I, Jonathan Mosen, will be chiming in, moderating the conversation, and 
> doing my best to ensure you’re informed and entertained.
> 
> The Tech Team will begin by discussing the big news among themselves, then 
> we’ll open it up for discussion to find out what you think. You can Skype us, 
> or call us via numbers all over the world. Details about those numbers closer 
> to the time. We’ll also be monitoring the #MushroomFM Twitter hashtag.
> 
> If you have an interest in tech from a blindness perspective, you’ll want to 
> set two hours aside to join the Tech Team. We go to air right after the 
> keynote, at 4 PM Eastern, 9 PM UK, next Monday 13 June. See you then.
> 
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Re: Siri

[Deidre Muccio]

Hell with the notion of dependency in regard to phones. I think the beauty of 
the iPhone is its versatility. I don't think any of us are so rigid that we're 
stuck on one way of operating our phones or at least that's not the impression 
I get.


Deidre


> On Jun 7, 2016, at 1:06 PM, Krister Ekstrom  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> One more thing to add to this, if you don’t know your phone thoroughly you 
> can’t fix things when/if they go wrong. I have always thought and been 
> accused of thinking wrongly that before you can make an informed decision on 
> what input method to choose, you must know them all. Some like the built-in 
> keyboard has a learning curve, but it’s rewarding when you know you don’t 
> have to rely on anybody in case your favorite input method were to act up on 
> you.
> /Krister
> 
>> 7 juni 2016 kl. 18:41 skrev Marie :
>> 
>> I am probably going to be unpopular when I say this but...
>> Are we wanting to depend too much on the personal assistants these days. It 
>> seems that some want them to do everything for them instead of keeping our 
>> skills up by doing some things on our own? I am happy to use dictation when 
>> I want to whip up a text message without taking too long but if I need 
>> further communication, either the phone or email is much better and I do it 
>> without any personal assistant intervening.
>> Tools which make our life easier are fine but I think there is a limit to 
>> what they need to do. JMT
>> Marie
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message- From: Alan Paganelli
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 6:53 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Siri
>> 
>> As I understand it, in iOS 10, Siri gets greatly improved and you should be 
>> able to talk to her just like talking to a neighbor or friend.  Personally, 
>> I'm just waiting to see that for myself.  I do know this though.  Sooner or 
>> later it will happen.
>> 
>> Alan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad Air
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>>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 8:26 AM, Deidre Muccio  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can someone explain the difference between series recognition of a question 
>>> and a search engine like you to who you can speak naturally two, ask a 
>>> question with very loose language and it comes up with very accurate 
>>> results?
>>> 
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Re: Siri

[Krister Ekstrom]

Hi,
One more thing to add to this, if you don’t know your phone thoroughly you 
can’t fix things when/if they go wrong. I have always thought and been accused 
of thinking wrongly that before you can make an informed decision on what input 
method to choose, you must know them all. Some like the built-in keyboard has a 
learning curve, but it’s rewarding when you know you don’t have to rely on 
anybody in case your favorite input method were to act up on you.
/Krister

> 7 juni 2016 kl. 18:41 skrev Marie :
> 
> I am probably going to be unpopular when I say this but...
> Are we wanting to depend too much on the personal assistants these days. It 
> seems that some want them to do everything for them instead of keeping our 
> skills up by doing some things on our own? I am happy to use dictation when I 
> want to whip up a text message without taking too long but if I need further 
> communication, either the phone or email is much better and I do it without 
> any personal assistant intervening.
> Tools which make our life easier are fine but I think there is a limit to 
> what they need to do. JMT
> Marie
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: Alan Paganelli
> Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 6:53 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Siri
> 
> As I understand it, in iOS 10, Siri gets greatly improved and you should be 
> able to talk to her just like talking to a neighbor or friend.  Personally, 
> I'm just waiting to see that for myself.  I do know this though.  Sooner or 
> later it will happen.
> 
> Alan
> 
> Sent from my iPad Air
> 
>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 8:26 AM, Deidre Muccio  wrote:
>> 
>> Can someone explain the difference between series recognition of a question 
>> and a search engine like you to who you can speak naturally two, ask a 
>> question with very loose language and it comes up with very accurate results?
>> 
>> Deidre
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Re: Siri

[Marie]

I am probably going to be unpopular when I say this but...
Are we wanting to depend too much on the personal assistants these days. It 
seems that some want them to do everything for them instead of keeping our 
skills up by doing some things on our own? I am happy to use dictation when 
I want to whip up a text message without taking too long but if I need 
further communication, either the phone or email is much better and I do it 
without any personal assistant intervening.
Tools which make our life easier are fine but I think there is a limit to 
what they need to do. JMT

Marie


-Original Message- 
From: Alan Paganelli

Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 6:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri

As I understand it, in iOS 10, Siri gets greatly improved and you should be 
able to talk to her just like talking to a neighbor or friend.  Personally, 
I'm just waiting to see that for myself.  I do know this though.  Sooner or 
later it will happen.


Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

On Jun 6, 2016, at 8:26 AM, Deidre Muccio  
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Can someone explain the difference between series recognition of a 
question and a search engine like you to who you can speak naturally two, 
ask a question with very loose language and it comes up with very accurate 
results?


Deidre

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Re: RENAMING PICTURES

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

Yes, so do I, or I will have a lots to do! :-) Thanks again!
On 7 Jun 2016, at 15:04, Richard Turner  wrote:

I’ve only renamed them in the camera roll or photos app and they have never 
left as I’ve updated iOS.
 
If you are labeling pictures in another app, I don’t know.  I hope they stick.
 
Happy labelling,
Richard
 
 
From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 6:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RENAMING PICTURES
 
Richard, I had forgotten about that one so, well done to you! I'm interested to 
know whether these labels stay or if they get taken out if you install new 
software for anything! I look forward to hearing of your experience. Meantime, 
I am happily labeling photos! :-)

Thank you again !
On 3 Jun 2016, at 23:11, Richard Turner  wrote:

 
I've not used any of the apps. I use the two-finger-double-tap-and-hold gesture 
to name photos.
Richard
 

“The problem with people who have no vices is that generally you can be pretty 
sure they're going to have some pretty annoying virtues.”
Elizabeth Taylor
(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Jun 3, 2016, at 9:30 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

This didn't appear to make it so here goes again! Apologies if you have seen it 
before!

 
 
Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

Begin forwarded message:

From: Carol Pearson 
Date: 30 May 2016 at 13:15:16 BST
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" 
Subject: RENAMING PICTURES
Reply-To: carol.pearso...@googlemail.com

   I'm wondering if anyone has tried any of the apps that allow you to rename 
photographs immediately you've taken them and which ones you've found have 
worked well and which are not worth the money?


I notice there are a few free ones but some seem not to have been updated for 
at least three years, which is probably quite a time in the Apple world and I'd 
like to find something, not overly complicated that has features I ccan use and 
does the job well.


I'm just beginning to get into photoes and am really finding it a little 
daunting, mainly because I seem to be getting so many pictures that are 
currently not identified and I want to get them sorted and let them stay that 
way.


Thanks for any help in this respect.


Carol P


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Re: Comprehensive Analysis of Apple's Big Reveal from a Blindness Perspective

[Regina Alvarado]

Jonathan, very, very interested. Can I go to mushroom and stream on my mobile 
device? 

reggie & Lex

On Jun 6, 2016, at 5:12 PM, Jonathan Mosen  wrote:

Next Monday, Apple’s Worldwide developers conference begins with a big reveal. 
We’ll find out about many of the key new features in iOS 10, the operating 
system for iPhone, iPad and iPod Touch that will be released later in the year. 
We’ll learn about the name and feature set of the next version of the operating 
system for the Mac, which may even get a new name. There may be software 
announcements pertaining to Apple Watch and Apple TV, and who knows what other 
surprises Apple may have in store.

WWDC is aimed at developers, so the presentation can get a bit geeky. And due 
to limited time, a lot of information is flashed up on the screen in 
presentation slides that are not spoken about during the presentation. To get a 
straightforward, comprehensive analysis and summary of all the big news, you 
won’t want to miss our special Tech Team presentation on Mushroom FM right 
after the event.

One thing we promise. We’ll offer you detailed, constructive analysis. This is 
no Apple commercial. The team brings a range of perspectives to the show that 
will help you understand where Apple is innovating, where they’re catching up 
and where they’re behind. 

On our tech team for this show are:

Allison Hartley, so much of an Apple fan that she even includes the brand in 
her own Twitter Name, @AppleAlli. She’s also the co-host of the Tech Doctor 
podcast.

Steve Nutt knows his way around iOS and VoiceOver, but he’s a committed Android 
user and advocate. If you’re debating whether your next device should be iOS or 
Android, Steve will offer his views on how Apple’s announcements stack up from 
an Android user’s perspective.

Heidi Mosen is an iOS user and tech geek. She also is unique on the Tech Team 
show in that she has eyeballs that work. As already mentioned, these Apple 
presentations display a lot of information on-screen that isn’t discussed. 
Heidi will be taking copious notes during the keynote event, so she can answer 
detailed questions and comment on user interface and other issues she’s been 
able to see from the demos.

And I, Jonathan Mosen, will be chiming in, moderating the conversation, and 
doing my best to ensure you’re informed and entertained.

The Tech Team will begin by discussing the big news among themselves, then 
we’ll open it up for discussion to find out what you think. You can Skype us, 
or call us via numbers all over the world. Details about those numbers closer 
to the time. We’ll also be monitoring the #MushroomFM Twitter hashtag.

If you have an interest in tech from a blindness perspective, you’ll want to 
set two hours aside to join the Tech Team. We go to air right after the 
keynote, at 4 PM Eastern, 9 PM UK, next Monday 13 June. See you then.

Jonathan Mosen
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Re: error -465054 in itunes music store

[Fanus]

Hello Sieghard
Thanks much for making the instructions easier. I did get to the instruction 
page but I could not figure out exactly what they want me to do. With your 
changes I new what to do and it worked perfectly.
I wish I had your vast knowledge base, so thanks for always helping me out.
Regards
Fanus


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 4:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: error -465054 in itunes music store

Hi Fanus,

 

Googling “How to fix a -45054 error in the iTunes Store” brought up an Apple 
support article with the following instructions (I modified this a bit to 
hopefully make it easier to follow when it comes to how you get to the 
“ProgramData folder etc.:

 

If files or folders that iTunes uses to download purchases are restricted, you 
might see an alert message that reads:

"We could not complete your iTunes Store request. An unknown error has occurred 
(-45054)."

 

Fix a -45054 error on a PC

 

1. If it's open, quit iTunes.

2. Go to your root folder by pressing the Windows key and type c: into the 
search box then press enter. You can also press Windows Key+R for the run 
dialogue, then type c: and press enter.

3. Show any hidden files or folders:

Windows 10: Click View, then select "Hidden items.", ribbon shortcut is Alt+V 
then h and h 

Windows 8: Click View, then click Options. On the View tab, select "Show hidden 
files, folders, and drives."

Windows 7: Click the Tools menu, then arrow to "Folder Options" (Alt+T then O) 
and On the View tab, select "Show hidden files, folders, and drives.".

4. Once you selected to show hidden files and folders, find the "ProgramData" 
folder in the root drive and press enter.

5. Open the Apple Computer folder, then the iTunes folder.

6. Right-click the adi folder and choose Delete from the menu.

7. Right-click the SC Info folder and choose Delete from the menu.

8. Restart the computer.

9. Open iTunes and try to make a purchase.

 

 

Good luck,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Fanus
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 3:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: error -465054 in itunes music store

 

Hello list

I want to purchase music via itunes and when I enter on the amount I get this 
-45054 error. I never encountered this before so I do not have a clue what its 
all about. Can someone please help?

Regards

Fanus

 

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RE: RENAMING PICTURES

[Richard Turner]

I’ve only renamed them in the camera roll or photos app and they have never 
left as I’ve updated iOS.

 

If you are labeling pictures in another app, I don’t know.  I hope they stick.

 

Happy labelling,

Richard

 

 

From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 6:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: RENAMING PICTURES

 

Richard, I had forgotten about that one so, well done to you! I'm interested to 
know whether these labels stay or if they get taken out if you install new 
software for anything! I look forward to hearing of your experience. Meantime, 
I am happily labeling photos! :-)

Thank you again !

On 3 Jun 2016, at 23:11, Richard Turner  > wrote:

 

I've not used any of the apps. I use the two-finger-double-tap-and-hold gesture 
to name photos.

Richard

 

“The problem with people who have no vices is that generally you can be pretty 
sure they're going to have some pretty annoying virtues.”

Elizabeth Taylor

(Sent from my iPhone 5S)


On Jun 3, 2016, at 9:30 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
 > wrote:

This didn't appear to make it so here goes again! Apologies if you have seen it 
before!

 

 

Carol P

Sent from my iPhone using MBraille


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From: Carol Pearson  >
Date: 30 May 2016 at 13:15:16 BST
To: "viphone@googlegroups.com  " 
 >
Subject: RENAMING PICTURES
Reply-To: carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
 

   I'm wondering if anyone has tried any of the apps that allow you to rename 
photographs immediately you've taken them and which ones you've found have 
worked well and which are not worth the money?


I notice there are a few free ones but some seem not to have been updated for 
at least three years, which is probably quite a time in the Apple world and I'd 
like to find something, not overly complicated that has features I ccan use and 
does the job well.


I'm just beginning to get into photoes and am really finding it a little 
daunting, mainly because I seem to be getting so many pictures that are 
currently not identified and I want to get them sorted and let them stay that 
way.


Thanks for any help in this respect.


Carol P



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Re: Siri, YouTube

[Deidre Muccio]

, Yes, that is definitely easier. I suppose I also don't like Safari much. You 
know what, I'm not always so negative!

Deidre


> On Jun 7, 2016, at 10:16 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> All you have to do to get SIRI to bring up google results instead of Bing 
> results is say "Search Google for" followed by what you want to search for.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Deidre Muccio
> Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 4:41 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Siri, YouTube
> 
> Now that you mention it, that is always at the top of my results Bing. I have 
> downloaded Google so maybe I'll try that and see if I get better results.
> 
> Deidre
> 
> 
>> On Jun 7, 2016, at 6:42 AM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>> 
>> Last I knew, Apple used Bing, but there was talk they were looking into 
>> their own search engine.
>> 
>>> On 07/06/16 02:58, 'RobH.' via VIPhone wrote:
>>> I'm not sure if Apple have their own search engine servers, I thought 
>>> siri might just submit any search term to the big boys like google, 
>>> then filter the responses before sending it you back.  Global web crawling 
>>> is not really Apple's thing, so a bit of an error if they have one 
>>> dedicated for siri's use.
>>> Some of the big names don't even do the crawling for themselves,  
>>> they submit the search term to all the other biggest ones and combine the 
>>> results. Apple could try that, but how to then filter would then be an 
>>> issue.
>>> 
>>> In short, I don't necessarily know an answer,  but am just looking at some 
>>> of the related questions or issues.
>>> 
>>> BobH.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: "Deidre Muccio" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 9:42 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Siri, YouTube
>>> 
>>> 
>>> OK, I understand all this, but I guess my question is a little out 
>>> there since you don't seem to understand what I'm asking. Or nobody 
>>> else knows what I'm asking either! I just don't know why Siri's 
>>> performance is so miserable at times when asking her to look 
>>> something up or find something or answer a question. On the contrary 
>>> when I plug something into a search engine I get far better results. 
>>> I suppose these are two different systems of gathering information
>>> 
>>> Deidre
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 6, 2016, at 3:47 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 
 Whenever you are dictating it's like you are writing the 
 information, except for any potential mistakes SIRI will put exactly 
 what you say. Dictation is also done via SIRI, but it is just voice 
 recognition just the same as when you dictate a text message. Then if you 
 dictate a phrase or whatever and you are in the Youtube search box then of 
 course whatever is found is up to how Youtube matches what you said.
 If you use SIRI and ask "When was Albert Einstein's birthday" or 
 something similar the answer depends on what sources SIRI has 
 available and is checking for answers. Here SIRI is not as good as other 
 virtual assistants such as the one from Google which seems to come up with 
 useful information more often.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Deidre Muccio
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 12:27 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Siri, YouTube
 
 I guess what I was noticing is that when I dictate a query in the 
 search field in YouTube I can use very natural speech and it brings 
 me up pretty near exactly what I'm looking for. When I asked Siri a 
 question what determines whether she'll be able to answer it or not? What 
 she will find? Why is the performance so much less able to recognize the 
 nature of the information I am seeking?
 
 Deidre
 
 
> On Jun 6, 2016, at 12:56 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Sorry if I am not understanding the question, but what does Youtube 
> have to do with SIRI or search engines? Youtube is a site to share 
> videos, you can upload or consume all sorts of content from the latest 
> music videos to TV shows, but it is not a general search engine like 
> Google or Bing.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Deidre Muccio
> Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 8:27 AM
> To: Viphone 
> Subject: Siri, YouTube
> 
> The word in the last post that was garbled should have been YouTube
> 
> Deidre
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RE: what are the options to export the images or text from knfb reader?

[Richard Turner]

KNFB Reader is primarily for extracting text from a picture of a document.  It 
has a built-in feature to "add page to document" so you can compile many pages 
into one document.  I know of no way to piece all that back together unless you 
first export the text from each one and then use a word processing app to put 
it all together.
In the file manager, hit edit, then select the file you want and hit the export 
option.  Not sure what it is called exactly as my phone is in the other room.
Then, select plain text and the file can be exported as a text file.

HTH,
Richard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mohib Anwar Rafay
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 7:05 AM
To: viphone 
Subject: what are the options to export the images or text from knfb reader?

One of my friends is struggling to export the images from iPhone to
his computer. He is saying, the images are not opening in his
computer, because knfb reader is saving the images in special format,
and not in jpeg format. So whether is it possible to save the images
in JPEG format or extract the text and save it into text format? So
whats the solution?
One more thing, he has taken hundreds of separet images using knfb
reader, , can these images be compiled to make one file and export or
extract the text from them?

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RE: Siri, YouTube

[Sieghard Weitzel]

All you have to do to get SIRI to bring up google results instead of Bing 
results is say "Search Google for" followed by what you want to search for.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Deidre Muccio
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 4:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri, YouTube

Now that you mention it, that is always at the top of my results Bing. I have 
downloaded Google so maybe I'll try that and see if I get better results.

Deidre


> On Jun 7, 2016, at 6:42 AM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> Last I knew, Apple used Bing, but there was talk they were looking into their 
> own search engine.
> 
>> On 07/06/16 02:58, 'RobH.' via VIPhone wrote:
>> I'm not sure if Apple have their own search engine servers, I thought 
>> siri might just submit any search term to the big boys like google, 
>> then filter the responses before sending it you back.  Global web crawling 
>> is not really Apple's thing, so a bit of an error if they have one dedicated 
>> for siri's use.
>> Some of the big names don't even do the crawling for themselves,  
>> they submit the search term to all the other biggest ones and combine the 
>> results. Apple could try that, but how to then filter would then be an issue.
>> 
>> In short, I don't necessarily know an answer,  but am just looking at some 
>> of the related questions or issues.
>> 
>> BobH.
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Deidre Muccio" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 9:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: Siri, YouTube
>> 
>> 
>> OK, I understand all this, but I guess my question is a little out 
>> there since you don't seem to understand what I'm asking. Or nobody 
>> else knows what I'm asking either! I just don't know why Siri's 
>> performance is so miserable at times when asking her to look 
>> something up or find something or answer a question. On the contrary 
>> when I plug something into a search engine I get far better results. 
>> I suppose these are two different systems of gathering information
>> 
>> Deidre
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 3:47 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Whenever you are dictating it's like you are writing the 
>>> information, except for any potential mistakes SIRI will put exactly 
>>> what you say. Dictation is also done via SIRI, but it is just voice 
>>> recognition just the same as when you dictate a text message. Then if you 
>>> dictate a phrase or whatever and you are in the Youtube search box then of 
>>> course whatever is found is up to how Youtube matches what you said.
>>> If you use SIRI and ask "When was Albert Einstein's birthday" or 
>>> something similar the answer depends on what sources SIRI has 
>>> available and is checking for answers. Here SIRI is not as good as other 
>>> virtual assistants such as the one from Google which seems to come up with 
>>> useful information more often.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Deidre Muccio
>>> Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 12:27 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Siri, YouTube
>>> 
>>> I guess what I was noticing is that when I dictate a query in the 
>>> search field in YouTube I can use very natural speech and it brings 
>>> me up pretty near exactly what I'm looking for. When I asked Siri a 
>>> question what determines whether she'll be able to answer it or not? What 
>>> she will find? Why is the performance so much less able to recognize the 
>>> nature of the information I am seeking?
>>> 
>>> Deidre
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 6, 2016, at 12:56 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 
 Sorry if I am not understanding the question, but what does Youtube 
 have to do with SIRI or search engines? Youtube is a site to share 
 videos, you can upload or consume all sorts of content from the latest 
 music videos to TV shows, but it is not a general search engine like 
 Google or Bing.
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Deidre Muccio
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 8:27 AM
 To: Viphone 
 Subject: Siri, YouTube
 
 The word in the last post that was garbled should have been YouTube
 
 Deidre
 
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RE: error -465054 in itunes music store

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Fanus,

Googling “How to fix a -45054 error in the iTunes Store” brought up an Apple 
support article with the following instructions (I modified this a bit to 
hopefully make it easier to follow when it comes to how you get to the 
“ProgramData folder etc.:

If files or folders that iTunes uses to download purchases are restricted, you 
might see an alert message that reads:
"We could not complete your iTunes Store request. An unknown error has occurred 
(-45054)."

Fix a -45054 error on a PC

1. If it's open, quit iTunes.
2. Go to your root folder by pressing the Windows key and type c: into the 
search box then press enter. You can also press Windows Key+R for the run 
dialogue, then type c: and press enter.
3. Show any hidden files or folders:
Windows 10: Click View, then select "Hidden items.", ribbon shortcut is Alt+V 
then h and h
Windows 8: Click View, then click Options. On the View tab, select "Show hidden 
files, folders, and drives."
Windows 7: Click the Tools menu, then arrow to "Folder Options" (Alt+T then O) 
and On the View tab, select "Show hidden files, folders, and drives.".
4. Once you selected to show hidden files and folders, find the "ProgramData" 
folder in the root drive and press enter.
5. Open the Apple Computer folder, then the iTunes folder.
6. Right-click the adi folder and choose Delete from the menu.
7. Right-click the SC Info folder and choose Delete from the menu.
8. Restart the computer.
9. Open iTunes and try to make a purchase.


Good luck,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Fanus
Sent: Tuesday, June 7, 2016 3:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: error -465054 in itunes music store

Hello list
I want to purchase music via itunes and when I enter on the amount I get this 
-45054 error. I never encountered this before so I do not have a clue what its 
all about. Can someone please help?
Regards
Fanus

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what are the options to export the images or text from knfb reader?

[Mohib Anwar Rafay]

One of my friends is struggling to export the images from iPhone to
his computer. He is saying, the images are not opening in his
computer, because knfb reader is saving the images in special format,
and not in jpeg format. So whether is it possible to save the images
in JPEG format or extract the text and save it into text format? So
whats the solution?
One more thing, he has taken hundreds of separet images using knfb
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Re: Siri

[Alan Paganelli]

As I understand it, in iOS 10, Siri gets greatly improved and you should be 
able to talk to her just like talking to a neighbor or friend.  Personally, I'm 
just waiting to see that for myself.  I do know this though.  Sooner or later 
it will happen.

Alan

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> Can someone explain the difference between series recognition of a question 
> and a search engine like you to who you can speak naturally two, ask a 
> question with very loose language and it comes up with very accurate results?
> 
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Re: RENAMING PICTURES

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

Richard, I had forgotten about that one so, well done to you! I'm interested to 
know whether these labels stay or if they get taken out if you install new 
software for anything! I look forward to hearing of your experience. Meantime, 
I am happily labeling photos! :-)

Thank you again !
On 3 Jun 2016, at 23:11, Richard Turner  wrote:


I've not used any of the apps. I use the two-finger-double-tap-and-hold gesture 
to name photos.
Richard


“The problem with people who have no vices is that generally you can be pretty 
sure they're going to have some pretty annoying virtues.”
Elizabeth Taylor
(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

> On Jun 3, 2016, at 9:30 AM, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> This didn't appear to make it so here goes again! Apologies if you have seen 
> it before!
> 
> 
> 
> Carol P
> Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Carol Pearson 
> Date: 30 May 2016 at 13:15:16 BST
> To: "viphone@googlegroups.com" 
> Subject: RENAMING PICTURES
> Reply-To: carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
> 
>I'm wondering if anyone has tried any of the apps that allow you to rename 
> photographs immediately you've taken them and which ones you've found have 
> worked well and which are not worth the money?
> 
> 
> I notice there are a few free ones but some seem not to have been updated for 
> at least three years, which is probably quite a time in the Apple world and 
> I'd like to find something, not overly complicated that has features I ccan 
> use and does the job well.
> 
> 
> I'm just beginning to get into photoes and am really finding it a little 
> daunting, mainly because I seem to be getting so many pictures that are 
> currently not identified and I want to get them sorted and let them stay that 
> way.
> 
> 
> Thanks for any help in this respect.
> 
> 
> Carol P
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RE: Search for cell network under system services, what is it?

[Gary Bowers]

I was away from my computer, so I could not respond earlier. You guys were 
right, I found System Services right where you said it was.

I appreciate the help. Now I'm on the same page as the rest of you.

Thanks again to all of you.

Gary 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 9:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Search for cell network under system services, what is it?

Yes, it is on all phones and if you use the 4-finger single tap to go all the 
way to the bottom in Settings > Privacy > Location Services you do have to 
swipe left 3 times to get to System Services.
The last 3 items explain what the meaning of various coloured icons is, but as 
Voiceover users you don't have to worry aboutthat as Voiceover announces what 
for sighted people is indicated by colours or an outlined icon.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 6:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Search for cell network under system services, what is it?

I have an iPhone 4S, and I see System Services near the bottom of the Location 
Services list. It isn't all the way at the bottom. On my phone, it's about 
three up from the bottom.

On 06/06/16 17:06, Gary Bowers wrote:
> Hi Pinky - You're not alone.
>
> I went to Privacy > location services, and looked all the way to the bottom. 
> I have no button that says System Services.
>
> I have an iPhone5 with the latest iOS update. I'm wondering if the settings 
> in question are not included in the old 5 series.
>
> Gary
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Pinky
> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 12:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Search for cell network under system services, what is it?
>
> I went there and did not see it.
> Ed
>
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Simon w' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 12:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Search for cell network under system services, what is it?
>
> Hi go into settings and check in cellular.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 1:19 PM, Pinky  wrote:
>>
>> Hi Sieghard,
>> Where do you find these settings?
>> Ed
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Sunday, June 05, 2016 11:22 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Search for cell network under system services, what is it?
>>
>> Hi Mary,
>>
>> The Cell Network Search has nothing to do with how your phone connects to 
>> the cellular network or whether it connects at all. A Google search resulted 
>> in a bunch of results, here is one explanation which is easy to understand:
>>
>> Cell network search: Apple keeps a database of cell towers and monitors 
>> reception in your area based on this option. It’s used to improve products 
>> in general and it’s not really a necessary function, so you can disable this 
>> feature if you wish not to share cellular tower information with Apple.
>>
>> Wi-Fi Networking I am pretty sure does something equivalent for Wi-Fi 
>> Networks and hotspots.
>>
>> Even Setting Time Zone is not required as your phone also receives this 
>> information from cell towers. I have turned this on in rare situations when 
>> I travelled to Asia and for some reason the date and time did not seem to 
>> set themselves. Turning it on would fix the issue and then I turned it off 
>> again since it anyways would only be important if you travel across time 
>> zones. Here in Canada or the US I have never found that the time was not 
>> displayed correctly even with this turned off.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 2:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Search for cell network under system services, what is it?
>>
>> I took the advice  about going into location services and checking the 
>> system services under there and turning off things that you don't need. One 
>> of those items is checking for cellular network services or something close 
>> to that. Now that sounds like something you would want to do when you are 
>> signing up and getting connected with your cellular network. And I think the 
>> advice in the original post was that it could be turned off. But I wonder 
>> about what might happen if you were on a road trip, say, and lost contact. 
>> Or even if you had to reboot your phone or turn it on to airplane mode and 
>> then off-again. Wouldn't it have to find the network? So, I turn this off 
>> but I'm wondering if that was 

Re: Siri, YouTube

[Deidre Muccio]

Now that you mention it, that is always at the top of my results Bing. I have 
downloaded Google so maybe I'll try that and see if I get better results.

Deidre


> On Jun 7, 2016, at 6:42 AM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> Last I knew, Apple used Bing, but there was talk they were looking into their 
> own search engine.
> 
>> On 07/06/16 02:58, 'RobH.' via VIPhone wrote:
>> I'm not sure if Apple have their own search engine servers, I thought siri 
>> might just submit any search term to the big boys like
>> google, then filter the responses before sending it you back.  Global web 
>> crawling is not really Apple's thing, so a bit of an error
>> if they have one dedicated for siri's use.
>> Some of the big names don't even do the crawling for themselves,  they 
>> submit the search term to all the other biggest ones and
>> combine the results. Apple could try that, but how to then filter would then 
>> be an issue.
>> 
>> In short, I don't necessarily know an answer,  but am just looking at some 
>> of the related questions or issues.
>> 
>> BobH.
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Deidre Muccio" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 9:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: Siri, YouTube
>> 
>> 
>> OK, I understand all this, but I guess my question is a little out there 
>> since you don't seem to understand what I'm asking. Or
>> nobody else knows what I'm asking either! I just don't know why Siri's 
>> performance is so miserable at times when asking her to look
>> something up or find something or answer a question. On the contrary when I 
>> plug something into a search engine I get far better
>> results. I suppose these are two different systems of gathering information
>> 
>> Deidre
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 3:47 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Whenever you are dictating it's like you are writing the information, 
>>> except for any potential mistakes SIRI will put exactly what
>>> you say. Dictation is also done via SIRI, but it is just voice recognition 
>>> just the same as when you dictate a text message. Then
>>> if you dictate a phrase or whatever and you are in the Youtube search box 
>>> then of course whatever is found is up to how Youtube
>>> matches what you said.
>>> If you use SIRI and ask "When was Albert Einstein's birthday" or something 
>>> similar the answer depends on what sources SIRI has
>>> available and is checking for answers. Here SIRI is not as good as other 
>>> virtual assistants such as the one from Google which
>>> seems to come up with useful information more often.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Deidre Muccio
>>> Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 12:27 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Siri, YouTube
>>> 
>>> I guess what I was noticing is that when I dictate a query in the search 
>>> field in YouTube I can use very natural speech and it
>>> brings me up pretty near exactly what I'm looking for. When I asked Siri a 
>>> question what determines whether she'll be able to
>>> answer it or not? What she will find? Why is the performance so much less 
>>> able to recognize the nature of the information I am
>>> seeking?
>>> 
>>> Deidre
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 6, 2016, at 12:56 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 
 Sorry if I am not understanding the question, but what does Youtube have 
 to do with SIRI or search engines? Youtube is a site to
 share videos, you can upload or consume all sorts of content from the 
 latest music videos to TV shows, but it is not a general
 search engine like Google or Bing.
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Deidre Muccio
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 8:27 AM
 To: Viphone 
 Subject: Siri, YouTube
 
 The word in the last post that was garbled should have been YouTube
 
 Deidre
 
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Re: Siri, YouTube

[Deidre Muccio]

Finally you guys have answered my question! Choke on a secondhand whisker? 
That's funny.

Deidre


> On Jun 7, 2016, at 4:07 AM, 'RobH.' via VIPhone  
> wrote:
> 
> Google is quite good at isolating phonymns rather than spellings, and does a 
> good line in context quite often.  This as distinct 
> from trying to reverse-TTS (STT) to reproduce a written phrase,...   whichit 
> probably then submits to the search engines.  Even 
> Google would choke on a second-hand chinese whisper.
> This scenario more than explains some of siri's greatest bloopers.
> 
> BobH.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
> To: 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 4:02 AM
> Subject: RE: Siri, YouTube
> 
> 
> Yes, it does get things wrong although I assume if you had perfect 
> pronunciation and clear speech there wouldn't be many mistakes. 
> If, for example, I dictate in German which is my first language it is almost 
> perfect, but then again German spelling is also a lot 
> simpler than English spelling since typically there aren't two or sometimes 
> maybe even 3 different ways to spell certain words as in 
> English. For example, "there" and "their", "hear" and "here", "bear" and 
> "bare" etc. Anyhow, I did say " except for any potential 
> mistakes" and I definitely don't want to defend SIRI because sometimes it 
> really does interpret what you say in interesting ways and 
> I think we all hope for major improvements both with dictation and especially 
> with what queries SIRI can answer and how it can 
> handle more compound queries.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Jewel
> Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 7:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Siri, YouTube
> 
> I have to disagree, in that, Siri doesn't write exactly what you said:  Siri 
> writes what he * thinks you said, and that can make an 
> embarrassing difference.
> 
>   Jewel
> 
> --
> From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 7:47 AM
> To: 
> Subject: RE: Siri, YouTube
> 
> Whenever you are dictating it's like you are writing the information, except 
> for any potential mistakes SIRI will put exactly what 
> you say. Dictation is also done via SIRI, but it is just voice recognition 
> just the same as when you dictate a text message. Then if 
> you dictate a phrase or whatever and you are in the Youtube search box then 
> of course whatever is found is up to how Youtube matches 
> what you said.
> If you use SIRI and ask "When was Albert Einstein's birthday" or something 
> similar the answer depends on what sources SIRI has 
> available and is checking for answers. Here SIRI is not as good as other 
> virtual assistants such as the one from Google which seems 
> to come up with useful information more often.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Deidre Muccio
> Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 12:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Siri, YouTube
> 
> I guess what I was noticing is that when I dictate a query in the search 
> field in YouTube I can use very natural speech and it 
> brings me up pretty near exactly what I'm looking for. When I asked Siri a 
> question what determines whether she'll be able to answer 
> it or not? What she will find? Why is the performance so much less able to 
> recognize the nature of the information I am seeking?
> 
> Deidre
> 
> 
>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 12:56 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry if I am not understanding the question, but what does Youtube
>> have to do with SIRI or search engines? Youtube is a site to share
>> videos, you can upload or consume all sorts of content from the latest music 
>> videos to TV shows, but it is not a general search 
>> engine like Google or Bing.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf Of Deidre Muccio
>> Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 8:27 AM
>> To: Viphone 
>> Subject: Siri, YouTube
>> 
>> The word in the last post that was garbled should have been YouTube
>> 
>> Deidre
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Re: which navigon app

[Don Breda]

Hi there.


Truthfully I used to be a big navigon fan but I would not recommend it 
at all anymore.



I used it a couple of weeks ago and it never alerted me when I was  at 
my destination which it was always the best at doing.



It didn't display street names anymore in some cases as it used to but 
instead displayed route numbers which were not helpful to me since I 
didn't know the area.



Gry google maps.


Don



On 06-Jun-16 8:38 PM, Robbie Miller wrote:


Hello all,

I have the BlindSquare app, and the instructions say I can use the 
Navigon app for the “plan my route” feature.


I searched for “Navigon”, and got a number of navigon apps, which one 
should I purchase for use with BlindSquare?


Thanks.

Robbie

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Re: Siri, YouTube

[Christopher Chaltain]

Last I knew, Apple used Bing, but there was talk they were looking into 
their own search engine.


On 07/06/16 02:58, 'RobH.' via VIPhone wrote:

I'm not sure if Apple have their own search engine servers, I thought siri 
might just submit any search term to the big boys like
google, then filter the responses before sending it you back.  Global web 
crawling is not really Apple's thing, so a bit of an error
if they have one dedicated for siri's use.
Some of the big names don't even do the crawling for themselves,  they submit 
the search term to all the other biggest ones and
combine the results. Apple could try that, but how to then filter would then be 
an issue.

In short, I don't necessarily know an answer,  but am just looking at some of 
the related questions or issues.

BobH.

- Original Message -
From: "Deidre Muccio" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: Siri, YouTube


OK, I understand all this, but I guess my question is a little out there since 
you don't seem to understand what I'm asking. Or
nobody else knows what I'm asking either! I just don't know why Siri's 
performance is so miserable at times when asking her to look
something up or find something or answer a question. On the contrary when I 
plug something into a search engine I get far better
results. I suppose these are two different systems of gathering information

Deidre



On Jun 6, 2016, at 3:47 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Whenever you are dictating it's like you are writing the information, except 
for any potential mistakes SIRI will put exactly what
you say. Dictation is also done via SIRI, but it is just voice recognition just 
the same as when you dictate a text message. Then
if you dictate a phrase or whatever and you are in the Youtube search box then 
of course whatever is found is up to how Youtube
matches what you said.
If you use SIRI and ask "When was Albert Einstein's birthday" or something 
similar the answer depends on what sources SIRI has
available and is checking for answers. Here SIRI is not as good as other 
virtual assistants such as the one from Google which
seems to come up with useful information more often.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Deidre Muccio
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 12:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri, YouTube

I guess what I was noticing is that when I dictate a query in the search field 
in YouTube I can use very natural speech and it
brings me up pretty near exactly what I'm looking for. When I asked Siri a 
question what determines whether she'll be able to
answer it or not? What she will find? Why is the performance so much less able 
to recognize the nature of the information I am
seeking?

Deidre



On Jun 6, 2016, at 12:56 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Sorry if I am not understanding the question, but what does Youtube have to do 
with SIRI or search engines? Youtube is a site to
share videos, you can upload or consume all sorts of content from the latest 
music videos to TV shows, but it is not a general
search engine like Google or Bing.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Deidre Muccio
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 8:27 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Siri, YouTube

The word in the last post that was garbled should have been YouTube

Deidre

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Re: Comprehensive Analysis of Apple's Big Reveal from a Blindness Perspective

[Fanus]

Hello Jonathan
I was just wondering, while internet streaming is so expensive here in South 
Africa, do you perhaps intend to make your show available as a podcast which we 
can download sometime after the show?
Regards
Fanus


From: Jonathan Mosen 
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 11:12 PM
To: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
Subject: Comprehensive Analysis of Apple's Big Reveal from a Blindness 
Perspective

Next Monday, Apple’s Worldwide developers conference begins with a big reveal. 
We’ll find out about many of the key new features in iOS 10, the operating 
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surprises Apple may have in store.

WWDC is aimed at developers, so the presentation can get a bit geeky. And due 
to limited time, a lot of information is flashed up on the screen in 
presentation slides that are not spoken about during the presentation. To get a 
straightforward, comprehensive analysis and summary of all the big news, you 
won’t want to miss our special Tech Team presentation on Mushroom FM right 
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One thing we promise. We’ll offer you detailed, constructive analysis. This is 
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On our tech team for this show are:

Allison Hartley, so much of an Apple fan that she even includes the brand in 
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And I, Jonathan Mosen, will be chiming in, moderating the conversation, and 
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The Tech Team will begin by discussing the big news among themselves, then 
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error -465054 in itunes music store

[Fanus]

Hello list
I want to purchase music via itunes and when I enter on the amount I get this 
-45054 error. I never encountered this before so I do not have a clue what its 
all about. Can someone please help?
Regards
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RE: which navigon app

[Robbie Miller]

I live in Chicago. I think I’ll get the north America version. 

 

Thanks.

 

Robbie

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 9:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: which navigon app

 

It depends in which country you live.

If you are in the United States, you can buy Navigon for your region, Western, 
Central or Eastern, or by the whole United States package, or the North America 
package that includes Canada.

 

As others will point out, Google Maps does a good job and is free.  Though in 
some cases, I’ve found Navigon finds things that Google doesn’t.

 

If you are in the United States, mapQuest is also very good, but they won’t let 
third party apps like BlindSquare launch them, which is a shame.

 

Later,

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robbie Miller
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 5:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: which navigon app

 

Hello all, 

 

I have the BlindSquare app, and the instructions say I can use the Navigon app 
for the “plan my route” feature. 

I searched for “Navigon”, and got a number of navigon apps, which one should I 
purchase for use with BlindSquare?

 

Thanks.

 

Robbie

 

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Re: Using my iPodTouch to make a Video?

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

3 more thoughts:

Recording:  remember that the camera is recording as soon as you press that 
button,  hwile you are putting it on the mount and you 
are getting into position;  so having got there, count yourselfin 4.3.2.1.Go!, 
pause for 2 beats, opening greeting, opening remarks 
to say what you are about, embark on main presentation.

At the end,  final remarks or conclusion,  final goodbyes;  freeze for 2 beats, 
then go grab the device and stop it, etc.

Editing:

make sure you know the video editing controls,  you now need to top and tail 
it, which is why you put pauses and count in, so you 
have cues to stop at and mark,  then delete from start to first mark,  and then 
go right to the end to set End marker, then rewind 
until you hear yourself,  and play until your goodbuye,  then stop, set marker, 
and delete marker to the end.

Errors;  just try and keep going,  appologise or  work around it if it doesn't 
go that smoothly, don't try stopping and starting and 
redoing bits mid flow;  you'll never be able to put it together afterwards.  Do 
as abovein a single take to top and tail,  do it 
more than once if not too long and then check all 3 for what you regard as the 
best one.

It should start with your opening greeting and end at your final goodbye with 
none of the leader and trailing litter.

Hth, BobH.

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Subject: Using my iPodTouch to make a Video?


Hi, Everyone.
I have my iPodTouch on a mount, and wanted to use it to make a video
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Re: Using my iPodTouch to make a Video?

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

A further thought:

To address audience in the right manner,  think of someone you like, respect,  
absolutely non-gender, so make this person someone 
from childhood maybe, but not parent as this will  put the level of 
communication on the wrong plane.  When you find someone you can 
talk to freely as an equal and a friend;  address yourself to the camera as 
being that person.

BobH.

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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: Using my iPodTouch to make a Video?


My first thoughts:

Be sure to grasp the concept of viewing angle ( which is essentially conicle 
fanning out from the camera lense),  so you know how
wide it is at how far;  so you can be sure you have all you need to show, fully 
in the angle of view.

Make sure you're always fully aware of where the device is so you can address 
it directly;  talking off at an angle breaks the
thread of communication, unless you focus on some third element you are 
demonstrating, in which case,  you should be able to direct
the viewing public's attention to that element.

i.e:  the camera is the person you are addressing,  so address it in the manner 
you would address the person who is to watchit. A
camera is the one way to do 1 - to - 1 communication to a collective audience.

Hth, BobH.
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Subject: Using my iPodTouch to make a Video?


Hi, Everyone.
I have my iPodTouch on a mount, and wanted to use it to make a video
for class. Any tips, tricks, or ideas for how to do this effectively
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Re: Question about setting up email on iphone

[Gordan Radić]

  
  
Hi!
Not sure at the moment since I'm not using POP3 protocol but maybe
the easiest way would be to delete and create the desired account
from scratch.
If you are not comfortable with that try to explore advanced
sections of your account setup in Mail, Contacts, Calendar in the
Settings.


  S poštovanjem
Gordan Radić
  

  

  

  

  
  

  
  

  

  


  


  

  

  

6.6.2016. u 2:00, denise colley je
  napisao/la:


  
  
  
  
If anyone is using Comcast xfinity for your
  email provider I have a question.  I had to change my Comcast
  Xfinity password and also when in and changed it on my phone. 
  I now can get incoming mail but can’t send, and I don’t see
  anything for outgoing mail that requires a password.  I am
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Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Re: Using my iPodTouch to make a Video?

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

My first thoughts:

Be sure to grasp the concept of viewing angle ( which is essentially conicle 
fanning out from the camera lense),  so you know how 
wide it is at how far;  so you can be sure you have all you need to show, fully 
in the angle of view.

Make sure you're always fully aware of where the device is so you can address 
it directly;  talking off at an angle breaks the 
thread of communication, unless you focus on some third element you are 
demonstrating, in which case,  you should be able to direct 
the viewing public's attention to that element.

i.e:  the camera is the person you are addressing,  so address it in the manner 
you would address the person who is to watchit. A 
camera is the one way to do 1 - to - 1 communication to a collective audience.

Hth, BobH.
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 5:52 AM
Subject: Using my iPodTouch to make a Video?


Hi, Everyone.
I have my iPodTouch on a mount, and wanted to use it to make a video
for class. Any tips, tricks, or ideas for how to do this effectively
as a totally blind person?

Thanks,
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Re: Siri, YouTube

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

Google is quite good at isolating phonymns rather than spellings, and does a 
good line in context quite often.  This as distinct 
from trying to reverse-TTS (STT) to reproduce a written phrase,...   whichit 
probably then submits to the search engines.  Even 
Google would choke on a second-hand chinese whisper.
This scenario more than explains some of siri's greatest bloopers.

BobH.
- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 4:02 AM
Subject: RE: Siri, YouTube


Yes, it does get things wrong although I assume if you had perfect 
pronunciation and clear speech there wouldn't be many mistakes. 
If, for example, I dictate in German which is my first language it is almost 
perfect, but then again German spelling is also a lot 
simpler than English spelling since typically there aren't two or sometimes 
maybe even 3 different ways to spell certain words as in 
English. For example, "there" and "their", "hear" and "here", "bear" and "bare" 
etc. Anyhow, I did say " except for any potential 
mistakes" and I definitely don't want to defend SIRI because sometimes it 
really does interpret what you say in interesting ways and 
I think we all hope for major improvements both with dictation and especially 
with what queries SIRI can answer and how it can 
handle more compound queries.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Jewel
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 7:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri, YouTube

I have to disagree, in that, Siri doesn't write exactly what you said:  Siri 
writes what he * thinks you said, and that can make an 
embarrassing difference.

   Jewel

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Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 7:47 AM
To: 
Subject: RE: Siri, YouTube

Whenever you are dictating it's like you are writing the information, except 
for any potential mistakes SIRI will put exactly what 
you say. Dictation is also done via SIRI, but it is just voice recognition just 
the same as when you dictate a text message. Then if 
you dictate a phrase or whatever and you are in the Youtube search box then of 
course whatever is found is up to how Youtube matches 
what you said.
If you use SIRI and ask "When was Albert Einstein's birthday" or something 
similar the answer depends on what sources SIRI has 
available and is checking for answers. Here SIRI is not as good as other 
virtual assistants such as the one from Google which seems 
to come up with useful information more often.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Deidre Muccio
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 12:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri, YouTube

I guess what I was noticing is that when I dictate a query in the search field 
in YouTube I can use very natural speech and it 
brings me up pretty near exactly what I'm looking for. When I asked Siri a 
question what determines whether she'll be able to answer 
it or not? What she will find? Why is the performance so much less able to 
recognize the nature of the information I am seeking?

Deidre


> On Jun 6, 2016, at 12:56 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> Sorry if I am not understanding the question, but what does Youtube
> have to do with SIRI or search engines? Youtube is a site to share
> videos, you can upload or consume all sorts of content from the latest music 
> videos to TV shows, but it is not a general search 
> engine like Google or Bing.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Deidre Muccio
> Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 8:27 AM
> To: Viphone 
> Subject: Siri, YouTube
>
> The word in the last post that was garbled should have been YouTube
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Re: Siri, YouTube

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

Geeze!...   tell us about it;  dictation is so good,...   hwenit works, and so 
less when   it gets confused.
- Original Message - 
From: "Jewel" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 3:32 AM
Subject: Re: Siri, YouTube


I have to disagree, in that, Siri doesn't write exactly what you said:  Siri 
writes what he * thinks
you said, and that can make an embarrassing difference.

   Jewel

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Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2016 7:47 AM
To: 
Subject: RE: Siri, YouTube

Whenever you are dictating it's like you are writing the information, except 
for any potential
mistakes SIRI will put exactly what you say. Dictation is also done via SIRI, 
but it is just voice
recognition just the same as when you dictate a text message. Then if you 
dictate a phrase or
whatever and you are in the Youtube search box then of course whatever is found 
is up to how Youtube
matches what you said.
If you use SIRI and ask "When was Albert Einstein's birthday" or something 
similar the answer
depends on what sources SIRI has available and is checking for answers. Here 
SIRI is not as good as
other virtual assistants such as the one from Google which seems to come up 
with useful information
more often.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Deidre Muccio
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 12:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Siri, YouTube

I guess what I was noticing is that when I dictate a query in the search field 
in YouTube I can use
very natural speech and it brings me up pretty near exactly what I'm looking 
for. When I asked Siri
a question what determines whether she'll be able to answer it or not? What she 
will find? Why is
the performance so much less able to recognize the nature of the information I 
am seeking?

Deidre


> On Jun 6, 2016, at 12:56 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> Sorry if I am not understanding the question, but what does Youtube have to 
> do with SIRI or search
> engines? Youtube is a site to share videos, you can upload or consume all 
> sorts of content from
> the latest music videos to TV shows, but it is not a general search engine 
> like Google or Bing.
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Deidre Muccio
> Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 8:27 AM
> To: Viphone 
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>
> The word in the last post that was garbled should have been YouTube
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> Deidre
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Re: Siri, YouTube

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

I'm not sure if Apple have their own search engine servers, I thought siri 
might just submit any search term to the big boys like 
google, then filter the responses before sending it you back.  Global web 
crawling is not really Apple's thing, so a bit of an error 
if they have one dedicated for siri's use.
Some of the big names don't even do the crawling for themselves,  they submit 
the search term to all the other biggest ones and 
combine the results. Apple could try that, but how to then filter would then be 
an issue.

In short, I don't necessarily know an answer,  but am just looking at some of 
the related questions or issues.

BobH.

- Original Message - 
From: "Deidre Muccio" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: Siri, YouTube


OK, I understand all this, but I guess my question is a little out there since 
you don't seem to understand what I'm asking. Or 
nobody else knows what I'm asking either! I just don't know why Siri's 
performance is so miserable at times when asking her to look 
something up or find something or answer a question. On the contrary when I 
plug something into a search engine I get far better 
results. I suppose these are two different systems of gathering information

Deidre


> On Jun 6, 2016, at 3:47 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> Whenever you are dictating it's like you are writing the information, except 
> for any potential mistakes SIRI will put exactly what 
> you say. Dictation is also done via SIRI, but it is just voice recognition 
> just the same as when you dictate a text message. Then 
> if you dictate a phrase or whatever and you are in the Youtube search box 
> then of course whatever is found is up to how Youtube 
> matches what you said.
> If you use SIRI and ask "When was Albert Einstein's birthday" or something 
> similar the answer depends on what sources SIRI has 
> available and is checking for answers. Here SIRI is not as good as other 
> virtual assistants such as the one from Google which 
> seems to come up with useful information more often.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Deidre Muccio
> Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 12:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Siri, YouTube
>
> I guess what I was noticing is that when I dictate a query in the search 
> field in YouTube I can use very natural speech and it 
> brings me up pretty near exactly what I'm looking for. When I asked Siri a 
> question what determines whether she'll be able to 
> answer it or not? What she will find? Why is the performance so much less 
> able to recognize the nature of the information I am 
> seeking?
>
> Deidre
>
>
>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 12:56 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> Sorry if I am not understanding the question, but what does Youtube have to 
>> do with SIRI or search engines? Youtube is a site to 
>> share videos, you can upload or consume all sorts of content from the latest 
>> music videos to TV shows, but it is not a general 
>> search engine like Google or Bing.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Deidre Muccio
>> Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 8:27 AM
>> To: Viphone 
>> Subject: Siri, YouTube
>>
>> The word in the last post that was garbled should have been YouTube
>>
>> Deidre
>>
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