Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

[rajmund]

Hi,
Best to say nothing, but considering youtube has a what's new in 
10.2 video, I can't see much would happen.


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RE: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

[rajmund]

herei Seighard,
I actually put IOS10 public beta 1 on the phone, which was my 
only device on holiday, and I liked the challenge.


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Re: the difference between text messages and iMessages

[rajmund]

Hi,
You can send iMessages to an iPod.  And you can either use your 
apple ID, or add an email address, to be used as the messaging 
ID.


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From: Terrie Terlau  wrote:


iMessages use Apple servers, so you can use them between two 
Apple devices.  They will use your data and not your text 
messaging plan.  You can use your Apple ID, and you don't need a 
cellular number.


Text messages are SMS messages that use your cellular provider's 
services..  You'll need a cellular number to send a text message.  
You can send text messages to any other device with a phone 
number that supports SMS.


On 06/11/16 18:14, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
What's The Difference Between iMessage and Text Messages on 
iPhone?

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re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

[rajmund]

Hi,
Because of the lovely iPad email bug, I'm using my primary 
device, the phone, for betas.


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RE: Notifications Missing on New iPhone 7 was RE: A Couple of Problems

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Esther,

I'm getting my text and notification alert sounds when my iPhone 7 is locked 
but Voiceover isn't reading anything. I know with my iPhone 6 running the same 
iOS that Voiceover did read incoming messages and notifications received while 
my phone was locked. I'm thinking this must be an iPhone 7 issue since both of 
my phones were running the same iOS and all the same settings. I've written 
Apple Accessibility about this issue.

Alan

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Esther Levegnale
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 7:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Notifications Missing on New iPhone 7 was RE: A Couple of Problems

Hi, Alan!

I'm so glad that you finally are receiving all of your notifications.  I had 
also tried turning off all my apps in Notifications but it didn't work for me.  
Glad it did for you!  Are you getting them on the locked screen.  I still am 
not.

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Nov 7, 2016, at 3:39 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sieghard, 
> 
> After googling around, it seems to me that getting all app notifications 
> across multiple devices might not be attainable. At least some of the threads 
> I came across seemed to indicate that. 
> 
> Since I'm pretty much a one I device kind of guy, I just went into my old 
> iPhone 6 and turned off all app notifications. Now they are all coming to my 
> new iPhone. 
> 
> I am experiencing the same issue that Esther originally posted about that 
> notifications received while my iPhone 7 is locked aren't being read by 
> VoiceOver. Perhaps I'll contact Apple Accessibility about that. 
> 
> Thanks to all who replied on this thread. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 7, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Alan,
>> 
>> Why don't you try to call Apple Accessibility and see if they can help or, 
>> if you have an Apple Store nearby, stop in and talk to them.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Alan Lemly
>> Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2016 6:15 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Notifications Missing on New iPhone 7 was RE: A Couple of 
>> Problems
>> 
>> Well, I have two iphones currently with the same name and Apple I'd. I went 
>> in on my new iPhone 7 as you suggested and turned notifications off and back 
>> on for every app on my phone. However, app notifications are only coming in 
>> on my old iPhone 6 and not at all on my new iPhone 7. Maybe you can't have 
>> two devices with the sane name on the sane Apple I'd and get notifications 
>> on both of them. If you can, I'd love to know how to do it. 
>> 
>> After I get all my downloaded bard book info loaded on my new phone, I'll 
>> reset the old phone to clear it and I expect this will no longer be an 
>> issue. 
>> 
>> Alan 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 6, 2016, at 7:49 PM, Esther Levegnale  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, Alan,
>>> 
>>> I had to go into the apps to reset the notifications again and now I'm 
>>> getting all of them back.  However, I don't get them on the locked screen.  
>>> Perhaps you have to go into some of the apps and set them up in order to 
>>> receive notifications again.  I hope this will be successful for you.  Good 
>>> luck.
>>> 
>>> Esther L.
>>> 
>>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>>> 
 On Nov 6, 2016, at 5:37 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
 
 Esther and All,
 
 I'm getting the same issue you experienced with your iPhone 7 Plus, that 
 is, I'm getting all my notifications on my old iPhone 6 but nothing on my 
 new iPhone 7 which was restored from an iTunes encrypted backup. I went 
 under Settings, Notifications, and drilled down into each app on the new 
 phone and turned notifications off and back on again but I'm still not 
 getting anything. I didn't have your problem with my music as it all came 
 over when I synced with iTunes.
 
 Can anyone offer any suggestions how I can get the notifications on my new 
 iPhone 7? Do I need to turn them off on my iPhone 6? I will be resetting 
 and clearing the iPhone 6 in order to sell it but that won't be for a few 
 days until I get all my BARD Mobile books identified and my reading 
 position noted.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Alan Lemly
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Esther Levegnale
 Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 2:26 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: A Couple of Problems
 
 Hi, Sieghard!
 
 Thanks for your response.  I actually am not getting notifications at all, 
 and yes, the speak notifications in VoiceOver is turned on.  

RE: The Updated Gmail iOS App and VoiceOver

[Todd Patkus]

To all,

 

What are y’all talking about?  What good is Gmail app?

 

I personally never bother Google accounts;  I simply use my Gmail address for 
everything under Outlook 2013, which is the easiest!

 

No big deal.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kevin Chao
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 11:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: The Updated Gmail iOS App and VoiceOver

 

New iOS Gmail accessibility is absolutely amazing!

 

On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 7:55 AM Craig Werner  > wrote:

Hello, everyone.

It might be of interest to a number of you that the latest release of
the Gmail app for iOS devices operates somewhat differently with
VoiceOver than did previous versions, and based on the testing I have
done, the app has improved for VoiceOver users.  In earlier versions,
if one wanted to delete a message from the message index, one would
have to check a checkbox next to its header information and then press
a "Delete" button.  Now, double-tap and holding the button
corresponding to the unwanted message places the app in a "Select"
mode.  The user can then move down the list of messages and simply
double-tap the unwanted ones; the "hold" gesture needs to be used only
on the first undesired  message.  Then, once the "delete" list has
been compiled, the "Delete" button can be activated.  There are other
ways to get rid of messages, but I don't want to make this message
overly long.  There is also an "Undo" button which evidently allows
the user to take back a number of actions.  I have not tested this
function yet.  Most gratifying is the possibility that the bug which
prevented text editing of the body of a message may have been
squashed, at least if the user is typing on the on-screen keyboard.  I
haven't tested it with a Bluetooth keyboard yet.

Craig

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RE: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

[Todd Patkus]

Chris et al,

I have absolutely no interest or absolutely no need for these stuff.

Apple is not the only one.  Freedom Scientific is one of them.  They like to 
release public Beta annually, but I do not care about them.  These 
stuff--Apple's Beta and FS' Beta--are simply nothing but simply a big waste!  
Beta does not do any good.

Look at bugs still appearing in newer versions.  They do not do enough to first 
check their versions more thoroughly first to ensure the software work 
correctly before releasing them.  Instead, they just enhance new features and 
then, without adequate investigation, send out new versions filled with more 
unwanted bugs to make customers complain!

That is it.

Todd

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 10:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

Interestingly enough, here's what Apple says at 
https://beta.apple.com/sp/betaprogram/legal

Please keep in mind that you should not install beta software on production or 
business-critical systems. We strongly recommend installing beta software on a 
secondary system or device, or on a secondary partition on your Mac.

On 07/11/16 18:15, Merv Keck wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I chose to beta test on a secondary device. I have an iPad Mini 4 
> which I beta test with but not my iPhone or my watch or Apple TV for 
> that matter. Just in case something comes up with the beta that causes 
> voiceover to do something unexpected I can’t get caught without my 
> phone. I do not have a land line.
>
>
>
> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
> Behalf Of *Robin Frost
> *Sent:* Monday, November 7, 2016 7:12 PM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> No worries I’m not asking anything that’d cause anyone to violate a 
> non-disclosure agreement at all. I’m merely wondering for those who 
> participate in Apple’s beta testing of iOS how many do so on their 
> main iDevice versus doing so on a secondary device. Right now I’ve 
> obtained a secondary device for beta testing purposes but still weigh 
> sending it back and merely testing on my main device. thus I was 
> curious what others chose and why.
>
> See nothing harmful or controversial there. Thanks for indulging my 
> curiosity.
>
> Robin
>
>
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Re: The Updated Gmail iOS App and VoiceOver

[Kevin Chao]

New iOS Gmail accessibility is absolutely amazing!

On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 7:55 AM Craig Werner  wrote:

> Hello, everyone.
>
> It might be of interest to a number of you that the latest release of
> the Gmail app for iOS devices operates somewhat differently with
> VoiceOver than did previous versions, and based on the testing I have
> done, the app has improved for VoiceOver users.  In earlier versions,
> if one wanted to delete a message from the message index, one would
> have to check a checkbox next to its header information and then press
> a "Delete" button.  Now, double-tap and holding the button
> corresponding to the unwanted message places the app in a "Select"
> mode.  The user can then move down the list of messages and simply
> double-tap the unwanted ones; the "hold" gesture needs to be used only
> on the first undesired  message.  Then, once the "delete" list has
> been compiled, the "Delete" button can be activated.  There are other
> ways to get rid of messages, but I don't want to make this message
> overly long.  There is also an "Undo" button which evidently allows
> the user to take back a number of actions.  I have not tested this
> function yet.  Most gratifying is the possibility that the bug which
> prevented text editing of the body of a message may have been
> squashed, at least if the user is typing on the on-screen keyboard.  I
> haven't tested it with a Bluetooth keyboard yet.
>
> Craig
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Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

[Christopher Chaltain]

Interestingly enough, here's what Apple says at 
https://beta.apple.com/sp/betaprogram/legal


Please keep in mind that you should not install beta software on 
production or business-critical systems. We strongly recommend 
installing beta software on a secondary system or device, or on a 
secondary partition on your Mac.


On 07/11/16 18:15, Merv Keck wrote:

Hi,

I chose to beta test on a secondary device. I have an iPad Mini 4 which
I beta test with but not my iPhone or my watch or Apple TV for that
matter. Just in case something comes up with the beta that causes
voiceover to do something unexpected I can’t get caught without my
phone. I do not have a land line.



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Behalf Of *Robin Frost
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*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers



Hi,

No worries I’m not asking anything that’d cause anyone to violate a
non-disclosure agreement at all. I’m merely wondering for those who
participate in Apple’s beta testing of iOS how many do so on their main
iDevice versus doing so on a secondary device. Right now I’ve obtained a
secondary device for beta testing purposes but still weigh sending it
back and merely testing on my main device. thus I was curious what
others chose and why.

See nothing harmful or controversial there. Thanks for indulging my
curiosity.

Robin



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Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

[Christopher Chaltain]

I don't know if the NDA is a big deal as far as Apple is concerned or 
how much trouble you could get into from Apple, but I do know Apple says 
the following at https://beta.apple.com/sp/betaprogram/legal


5. Definition of Confidential Information.  You agree that the 
Pre-Release Software and any information concerning the Pre-Release 
Software (including its nature and existence, features, functionality, 
and screen shots), the Seeding Tools, and any other information 
disclosed by Apple to you in connection with the Beta Program will be 
considered and referred to in this Agreement as “Confidential Information.”


6. Nonuse and Nondisclosure of Confidential Information.  Except as 
expressly permitted in this Section 6, you agree that you will not 
disclose, publish, or otherwise disseminate any Confidential Information 
to anyone other than individuals who are enrolled in the same individual 
seed as you, or as otherwise expressly permitted or agreed to in writing 
by Apple.  You further agree to take reasonable precautions to prevent 
any unauthorized use, disclosure, publication, or dissemination of 
Confidential Information, including preventing access to or display of 
the Apple Software to third parties.  You agree to use the Confidential 
Information solely for the permitted uses as set forth in this 
Agreement.  You agree not to use Confidential Information otherwise for 
your own or any third party’s benefit without the prior written approval 
of an authorized representative of Apple in each instance.  You hereby 
acknowledge that unauthorized disclosure or use of Confidential 
Information could cause irreparable harm and significant injury to Apple 
that may be difficult to ascertain.  Accordingly, you agree that Apple 
will have the right to seek immediate injunctive relief to enforce 
obligations under this Agreement in addition to any other rights and 
remedies it may have.


I'm not here to tell anyone what to do or not do with the beta and the 
NDA, but I would definitely encourage anyone to read the NDA before they 
agree to it and join the beta and make up your own mind as to what Apple 
wants you to do and not do. I definitely would not just take the word of 
Shaf Patel on this list.


On 07/11/16 20:55, Robin Frost wrote:

Hi,
I wasn't as worried about Apple as I was violating list policies about
such things which is why I was careful to clarify the scope of my
question from the outset (smile).
Robin


-Original Message- From: Shaf Patel
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 8:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

Firstly, the NDA isn't a big deal - you won't get in trouble by Apple
for discussing the beta publicly. Secondly, I use it on my main device
because I don't depend on my phone enough to worry about many bugs.

On 11/8/2016 12:12 AM, Robin Frost wrote:

Hi,
No worries I’m not asking anything that’d cause anyone to violate a
non-disclosure agreement at all. I’m merely wondering for those who
participate in Apple’s beta testing of iOS how many do so on their main
iDevice versus doing so on a secondary device. Right now I’ve obtained a
secondary device for beta testing purposes but still weigh sending it
back and merely testing on my main device. thus I was curious what
others chose and why.
See nothing harmful or controversial there. Thanks for indulging my
curiosity.
Robin


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Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'm not beta testing IOS at the moment, but when I was running IOS 9, I 
ended up beta testing IOS 9 because I ran into a few serious issues, 
such as needing to restart the phone every time I made a phone call or 
restarting IOS every time I replied to an email message. I didn't figure 
the beta could make things any worse, and I figured I'd get my hands on 
some fixes sooner running the beta.


My own advice would be to avoid running a beta on your primary device, 
but that's something only each person can decide for themselves. This 
will depend a lot on how each person uses their phone and how much they 
could put up with potentially show stopping issues found in the beta or 
it's accessibility.


On 07/11/16 21:21, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Robin,

I guess whatever floats your boat is fine, I personally don't agree with 
Kevin's thoughts since especially if you are beta testing a completely new 
version of iOS and you jump on the band wagon with public beta 1 using your 
main device could mean you are experiencing a major disruption of service. I 
have one iPhone as I personally don't see the need to have a second one or to 
have an iPad or iPod Touch so if something happened again as when iOS 9 was 
released where it was basically impossible to answer phone calls in many 
situations that would be a real deal breaker for me with one device which I 
rely on for personal and business use. It is up to you to decide what you are 
willing to put up with.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 6:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

Hi,
I wasn't as worried about Apple as I was violating list policies about such 
things which is why I was careful to clarify the scope of my question from the 
outset (smile).
Robin


-Original Message-
From: Shaf Patel
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 8:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

Firstly, the NDA isn't a big deal - you won't get in trouble by Apple for 
discussing the beta publicly. Secondly, I use it on my main device because I 
don't depend on my phone enough to worry about many bugs.

On 11/8/2016 12:12 AM, Robin Frost wrote:

Hi,
No worries I’m not asking anything that’d cause anyone to violate a
non-disclosure agreement at all. I’m merely wondering for those who
participate in Apple’s beta testing of iOS how many do so on their
main iDevice versus doing so on a secondary device. Right now I’ve
obtained a secondary device for beta testing purposes but still weigh
sending it back and merely testing on my main device. thus I was
curious what others chose and why.
See nothing harmful or controversial there. Thanks for indulging my
curiosity.
Robin


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Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Yes and that is exactly why I'm still leaning towards keeping the second 
device.
Thanks again to all who are responding.  I always enjoy learning from the 
experiences and views of others. It's much appreciated.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 10:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

Hi Robin,

I guess whatever floats your boat is fine, I personally don't agree with 
Kevin's thoughts since especially if you are beta testing a completely new 
version of iOS and you jump on the band wagon with public beta 1 using your 
main device could mean you are experiencing a major disruption of service. I 
have one iPhone as I personally don't see the need to have a second one or 
to have an iPad or iPod Touch so if something happened again as when iOS 9 
was released where it was basically impossible to answer phone calls in many 
situations that would be a real deal breaker for me with one device which I 
rely on for personal and business use. It is up to you to decide what you 
are willing to put up with.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Of Robin Frost

Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 6:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

Hi,
I wasn't as worried about Apple as I was violating list policies about such 
things which is why I was careful to clarify the scope of my question from 
the outset (smile).

Robin


-Original Message-
From: Shaf Patel
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 8:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

Firstly, the NDA isn't a big deal - you won't get in trouble by Apple for 
discussing the beta publicly. Secondly, I use it on my main device because I 
don't depend on my phone enough to worry about many bugs.


On 11/8/2016 12:12 AM, Robin Frost wrote:

Hi,
No worries I’m not asking anything that’d cause anyone to violate a
non-disclosure agreement at all. I’m merely wondering for those who
participate in Apple’s beta testing of iOS how many do so on their
main iDevice versus doing so on a secondary device. Right now I’ve
obtained a secondary device for beta testing purposes but still weigh
sending it back and merely testing on my main device. thus I was
curious what others chose and why.
See nothing harmful or controversial there. Thanks for indulging my
curiosity.
Robin


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RE: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Robin,

I guess whatever floats your boat is fine, I personally don't agree with 
Kevin's thoughts since especially if you are beta testing a completely new 
version of iOS and you jump on the band wagon with public beta 1 using your 
main device could mean you are experiencing a major disruption of service. I 
have one iPhone as I personally don't see the need to have a second one or to 
have an iPad or iPod Touch so if something happened again as when iOS 9 was 
released where it was basically impossible to answer phone calls in many 
situations that would be a real deal breaker for me with one device which I 
rely on for personal and business use. It is up to you to decide what you are 
willing to put up with.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Robin Frost
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 6:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

Hi,
I wasn't as worried about Apple as I was violating list policies about such 
things which is why I was careful to clarify the scope of my question from the 
outset (smile).
Robin


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Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 8:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

Firstly, the NDA isn't a big deal - you won't get in trouble by Apple for 
discussing the beta publicly. Secondly, I use it on my main device because I 
don't depend on my phone enough to worry about many bugs.

On 11/8/2016 12:12 AM, Robin Frost wrote:
> Hi,
> No worries I’m not asking anything that’d cause anyone to violate a 
> non-disclosure agreement at all. I’m merely wondering for those who 
> participate in Apple’s beta testing of iOS how many do so on their 
> main iDevice versus doing so on a secondary device. Right now I’ve 
> obtained a secondary device for beta testing purposes but still weigh 
> sending it back and merely testing on my main device. thus I was 
> curious what others chose and why.
> See nothing harmful or controversial there. Thanks for indulging my 
> curiosity.
> Robin
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Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I wasn't as worried about Apple as I was violating list policies about such 
things which is why I was careful to clarify the scope of my question from 
the outset (smile).

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Shaf Patel

Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 8:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

Firstly, the NDA isn't a big deal - you won't get in trouble by Apple
for discussing the beta publicly. Secondly, I use it on my main device
because I don't depend on my phone enough to worry about many bugs.

On 11/8/2016 12:12 AM, Robin Frost wrote:

Hi,
No worries I’m not asking anything that’d cause anyone to violate a
non-disclosure agreement at all. I’m merely wondering for those who
participate in Apple’s beta testing of iOS how many do so on their main
iDevice versus doing so on a secondary device. Right now I’ve obtained a
secondary device for beta testing purposes but still weigh sending it
back and merely testing on my main device. thus I was curious what
others chose and why.
See nothing harmful or controversial there. Thanks for indulging my
curiosity.
Robin


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Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
And there’s the other side of the coin. Thanks for your insights.
Robin


From: Kevin Chao 
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 9:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

I test the betas on my primary devices. I'm able to experience the new 
features/bugs natively, and it gives more insentive to  file radars via 
bugreport.apple.com. i.e. tif eehris a critical Voiceover accessibility issue, 
I'm more likely to file a bug and raise it ASAP and follow-up to resolution.

On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 5:08 PM Shaf Patel  wrote:

  Firstly, the NDA isn't a big deal - you won't get in trouble by Apple
  for discussing the beta publicly. Secondly, I use it on my main device
  because I don't depend on my phone enough to worry about many bugs.

  On 11/8/2016 12:12 AM, Robin Frost wrote:
  > Hi,
  > No worries I’m not asking anything that’d cause anyone to violate a
  > non-disclosure agreement at all. I’m merely wondering for those who
  > participate in Apple’s beta testing of iOS how many do so on their main
  > iDevice versus doing so on a secondary device. Right now I’ve obtained a
  > secondary device for beta testing purposes but still weigh sending it
  > back and merely testing on my main device. thus I was curious what
  > others chose and why.
  > See nothing harmful or controversial there. Thanks for indulging my
  > curiosity.
  > Robin
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Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
Yes sir it does help as that was my rationale too (smile).
Robin


From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 9:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers


I have two devices, my iPhone 5S and my iPod Touch 6.
I use the phone for, can you guess", phone calls and other things.
I use the iPod Touch for most of my books and music.
I've chosen to use the iPod Touch for beta testing as I don't want to risk 
running into a problem that would compromise my phone.
HTH,
Richard



(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Nov 7, 2016, at 4:12 PM, Robin Frost  wrote:


  Hi,
  No worries I’m not asking anything that’d cause anyone to violate a 
non-disclosure agreement at all. I’m merely wondering for those who participate 
in Apple’s beta testing of iOS how many do so on their main iDevice versus 
doing so on a secondary device. Right now I’ve obtained a secondary device for 
beta testing purposes but still weigh sending it back and merely testing on my 
main device. thus I was curious what others chose and why.
  See nothing harmful or controversial there. Thanks for indulging my curiosity.
  Robin

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Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

[Kevin Chao]

I test the betas on my primary devices. I'm able to experience the new
features/bugs natively, and it gives more insentive to  file radars via
bugreport.apple.com. i.e. tif eehris a critical Voiceover accessibility
issue, I'm more likely to file a bug and raise it ASAP and follow-up to
resolution.

On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 5:08 PM Shaf Patel  wrote:

> Firstly, the NDA isn't a big deal - you won't get in trouble by Apple
> for discussing the beta publicly. Secondly, I use it on my main device
> because I don't depend on my phone enough to worry about many bugs.
>
> On 11/8/2016 12:12 AM, Robin Frost wrote:
> > Hi,
> > No worries I’m not asking anything that’d cause anyone to violate a
> > non-disclosure agreement at all. I’m merely wondering for those who
> > participate in Apple’s beta testing of iOS how many do so on their main
> > iDevice versus doing so on a secondary device. Right now I’ve obtained a
> > secondary device for beta testing purposes but still weigh sending it
> > back and merely testing on my main device. thus I was curious what
> > others chose and why.
> > See nothing harmful or controversial there. Thanks for indulging my
> > curiosity.
> > Robin
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Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

[Richard Turner]

I have two devices, my iPhone 5S and my iPod Touch 6.
I use the phone for, can you guess", phone calls and other things.
I use the iPod Touch for most of my books and music.
I've chosen to use the iPod Touch for beta testing as I don't want to risk 
running into a problem that would compromise my phone.
HTH,
Richard


(Sent from my iPhone 5S)

On Nov 7, 2016, at 4:12 PM, Robin Frost 
> wrote:

Hi,
No worries I'm not asking anything that'd cause anyone to violate a 
non-disclosure agreement at all. I'm merely wondering for those who participate 
in Apple's beta testing of iOS how many do so on their main iDevice versus 
doing so on a secondary device. Right now I've obtained a secondary device for 
beta testing purposes but still weigh sending it back and merely testing on my 
main device. thus I was curious what others chose and why.
See nothing harmful or controversial there. Thanks for indulging my curiosity.
Robin


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Re: Notifications Missing on New iPhone 7 was RE: A Couple of Problems

[Esther Levegnale]

Hi, Alan!

I'm so glad that you finally are receiving all of your notifications.  I had 
also tried turning off all my apps in Notifications but it didn't work for me.  
Glad it did for you!  Are you getting them on the locked screen.  I still am 
not.

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!

> On Nov 7, 2016, at 3:39 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> 
> Hi Sieghard, 
> 
> After googling around, it seems to me that getting all app notifications 
> across multiple devices might not be attainable. At least some of the threads 
> I came across seemed to indicate that. 
> 
> Since I'm pretty much a one I device kind of guy, I just went into my old 
> iPhone 6 and turned off all app notifications. Now they are all coming to my 
> new iPhone. 
> 
> I am experiencing the same issue that Esther originally posted about that 
> notifications received while my iPhone 7 is locked aren't being read by 
> VoiceOver. Perhaps I'll contact Apple Accessibility about that. 
> 
> Thanks to all who replied on this thread. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 7, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Alan,
>> 
>> Why don't you try to call Apple Accessibility and see if they can help or, 
>> if you have an Apple Store nearby, stop in and talk to them.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Alan Lemly
>> Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2016 6:15 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Notifications Missing on New iPhone 7 was RE: A Couple of 
>> Problems
>> 
>> Well, I have two iphones currently with the same name and Apple I'd. I went 
>> in on my new iPhone 7 as you suggested and turned notifications off and back 
>> on for every app on my phone. However, app notifications are only coming in 
>> on my old iPhone 6 and not at all on my new iPhone 7. Maybe you can't have 
>> two devices with the sane name on the sane Apple I'd and get notifications 
>> on both of them. If you can, I'd love to know how to do it. 
>> 
>> After I get all my downloaded bard book info loaded on my new phone, I'll 
>> reset the old phone to clear it and I expect this will no longer be an 
>> issue. 
>> 
>> Alan 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 6, 2016, at 7:49 PM, Esther Levegnale  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, Alan,
>>> 
>>> I had to go into the apps to reset the notifications again and now I'm 
>>> getting all of them back.  However, I don't get them on the locked screen.  
>>> Perhaps you have to go into some of the apps and set them up in order to 
>>> receive notifications again.  I hope this will be successful for you.  Good 
>>> luck.
>>> 
>>> Esther L.
>>> 
>>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>>> 
 On Nov 6, 2016, at 5:37 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
 
 Esther and All,
 
 I'm getting the same issue you experienced with your iPhone 7 Plus, that 
 is, I'm getting all my notifications on my old iPhone 6 but nothing on my 
 new iPhone 7 which was restored from an iTunes encrypted backup. I went 
 under Settings, Notifications, and drilled down into each app on the new 
 phone and turned notifications off and back on again but I'm still not 
 getting anything. I didn't have your problem with my music as it all came 
 over when I synced with iTunes.
 
 Can anyone offer any suggestions how I can get the notifications on my new 
 iPhone 7? Do I need to turn them off on my iPhone 6? I will be resetting 
 and clearing the iPhone 6 in order to sell it but that won't be for a few 
 days until I get all my BARD Mobile books identified and my reading 
 position noted.
 
 Thanks in advance.
 
 Alan Lemly
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Esther Levegnale
 Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 2:26 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: A Couple of Problems
 
 Hi, Sieghard!
 
 Thanks for your response.  I actually am not getting notifications at all, 
 and yes, the speak notifications in VoiceOver is turned on.  All my apps 
 are turned on and I've always had speak on locked screen on, even on my 
 other phones.  It's quite a dilemma.  I just went in and checked all the 
 settings again and they are as I've had them.  I usually get notifications 
 from CNN, Headlines, a couple of my local television channels, and my 
 FitBit device, among others.
 
 Thanks again and take care!
 
 Esther
 
 Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
 
> On Oct 6, 2016, at 10:22 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Esther,
> 
> The fact you still have your old iPhone does not matter with respect to 
> notifications on your new phone. If set up 

Re: the difference between text messages and iMessages

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

Hi Linda and all,

I was thinking that maybe it's different if you're saving to an external 
drive. I know the limit is 32GB otherwise.


Perhaps someone knows if there's the same upper limit when using external 
drives. I personally would think there probably isn't such a limit since 
this would not be governed by the Touch but by the particular drive 
provider but I look forward to confirmation either way.


Carol P—UK


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On 8 November 2016 01:09:11 Shaf Patel  wrote:


Yes you can. You either send an iMessage to a phone number or an email
address (or Apple ID)

On 11/8/2016 12:38 AM, Terrie Terlau wrote:
Can you send an iMessage to an iPod? I'm asking because you said we don't 
need a phone number to send iMessages. Also, what do you use instead of a 
phone number?
Thank you so much. I have been trying to figure out the difference between 
these two kinds of messages for several years.

Best,
Terrie Terlau

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 6, 2016, at 10:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

iMessages use Apple servers, so you can use them between two Apple devices. 
They will use your data and not your text messaging plan. You can use your 
Apple ID, and you don't need a cellular number.


Text messages are SMS messages that use your cellular provider's services. 
You'll need a cellular number to send a text message. You can send text 
messages to any other device with a phone number that supports SMS.



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Re: the difference between text messages and iMessages

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Terrie,

Yes, you can send an iMessage to someone with an iPod using their email 
address, assuming they've configured iMessage to use that address.

Best,
Anna



> On Nov 7, 2016, at 6:38 PM, Terrie Terlau  wrote:
> 
> Can you send an iMessage to an iPod? I'm asking because you said we don't 
> need a phone number to send iMessages. Also, what do you use instead of a 
> phone number?
> Thank you so much. I have been trying to figure out the difference between 
> these two kinds of messages for several years.
> Best,
> Terrie Terlau
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 6, 2016, at 10:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>> 
>> iMessages use Apple servers, so you can use them between two Apple devices. 
>> They will use your data and not your text messaging plan. You can use your 
>> Apple ID, and you don't need a cellular number.
>> 
>> Text messages are SMS messages that use your cellular provider's services. 
>> You'll need a cellular number to send a text message. You can send text 
>> messages to any other device with a phone number that supports SMS.
>> 
>>> On 06/11/16 18:14, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
>>> What’s The Difference Between iMessage and Text Messages on iPhone?
>>>  1
>>> BY
>>> DAVID PAYETTE
>>> ON JANUARY 28, 2016
>>> IPHONE
>>> What's The Difference Between iMessages and Text Messages on iPhone?
>>> 
>>> Underneath the surface, iMessages and text messages are fundamentally
>>> different technologies, even though they both live in the Messages app
>>> on your iPhone.
>>> I think it’s important for every iPhone owner to know the difference
>>> between text messages and iMessages, because that knowledge can have a
>>> significant
>>> impact on your phone bill.
>>> 
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>>> through your carrier. There are two kinds of text messages:
>>> 
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>>> been using for years. SMS messages are limited to 160 characters and can
>>> only contain
>>> text.
>>> ◾ MMS (Multimedia Messaging Service): MMS messages extend the capability
>>> of original text messages, and support sending photos, longer text
>>> messages, and
>>> other content.
>>> list end
>>> https://secure.ace.advertising.com/site=848201/size=728090/u=2/bnum=20004995/wkhr=17/hr=17/hl=3/scres=1/swh=1366x768/sd=1/tile=1/f=2/r=1/optn=1/rclk=https%253A%252F%252Fadclick.g.doubleclick.net%252Faclk%253Fsa%253DL%2526ai%253DCJMYMIMYfWND4MdOApgO_hIjACNvS6pRGzeivteUBwI23ARABIABgybaGh8yjwBeCARdjYS1wdWItOTMwNTY3MDIxMDU3OTU1McgBCagDAaoEvgFP0Ann1Y-WpVy0BODXY0XtWhCyfq7guwR7FAWU-XB5KrZlZrEmZ0FpCDD8SFdIPVsogRqXIGnEjr-AH5hk5qakahsOnFPLmxQyGYaQNUWZQl3NizeNaNexoDwAcked3cuo2zarpA1D5dCaGFRnFwxRp0kVrhh9k7qZfx_zKS4rwzGSRVWugJWE5W6BG-EaOh4TcON3DMqY2Uhv1QMOSKpFznNQu8nQpdEtOitgeoWfTQW6-ujyQ2DFbQTkmBWmgAaei86727aCiZ8BoAYhqAemvhvYBwDSCAUIgGEQAQ%2526num%253D1%2526sig%253DAOD64_2iB8lxbx7UPZnET2NQb8CsO8DLhg%2526client%253Dca-pub-9305670210579551%2526adurl%253D/kvismob=2/fv=23/aolexp=0/tags=1/dcprice=WB_GIAAMfFAKaYBTAAICP8t6SD_GQEGkBinP8A/logignored=0/rip=ChRqcjYxMDAxNDM1NjIyMzE4MDA0ORIlQVM0MTA2ODgxNTExYmI2MGY0ODdiODlkYjNmZjAwMzY4ZjA1NRgHIgsxNjgyMTM1NDI3NyoAMhZ3d3cucGF5ZXR0ZWZvcndhcmQuY29tOLWIlAFAT0gAfQa5izudAQa5izulAUgxLD-tARalOTvdARalOTvoAQHyAQViZWxvd_0BBrmLO7ACJr0CAACAP8UCAMoCByAsZmFsc2XSAgcgLGZhbHNl6gIHcHJpbWFyeQ/rc=7F1D63DB3F034007037A428950D64835/bci=0/bidid=WB%252FGIAAMfFAKaYBTiAICPw%253D%253D/pid=1003/dref=
>>> frame
>>> get
>>> 

Re: the difference between text messages and iMessages

[Shaf Patel]

Yes you can. You either send an iMessage to a phone number or an email
address (or Apple ID)

On 11/8/2016 12:38 AM, Terrie Terlau wrote:
> Can you send an iMessage to an iPod? I'm asking because you said we don't 
> need a phone number to send iMessages. Also, what do you use instead of a 
> phone number?
> Thank you so much. I have been trying to figure out the difference between 
> these two kinds of messages for several years.
> Best,
> Terrie Terlau
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 6, 2016, at 10:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
>>
>> iMessages use Apple servers, so you can use them between two Apple devices. 
>> They will use your data and not your text messaging plan. You can use your 
>> Apple ID, and you don't need a cellular number.
>>
>> Text messages are SMS messages that use your cellular provider's services. 
>> You'll need a cellular number to send a text message. You can send text 
>> messages to any other device with a phone number that supports SMS.
>>
>>> On 06/11/16 18:14, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
>>> What’s The Difference Between iMessage and Text Messages on iPhone?
>>>  1
>>> BY
>>> DAVID PAYETTE
>>> ON JANUARY 28, 2016
>>> IPHONE
>>> What's The Difference Between iMessages and Text Messages on iPhone?
>>>
>>> Underneath the surface, iMessages and text messages are fundamentally
>>> different technologies, even though they both live in the Messages app
>>> on your iPhone.
>>> I think it’s important for every iPhone owner to know the difference
>>> between text messages and iMessages, because that knowledge can have a
>>> significant
>>> impact on your phone bill.
>>>
>>> Text Messages
>>> https://s0.2mdn.net/4057102/1477575640599/2016_W40_V3_Banners_728x90.html 
>>> frame
>>> list of 3 items
>>> images/fe6f36e0-3a75-45cf-84df-c901c8febc5f
>>> images/0e65dbdf-a8b9-4a10-abab-28450350bc80
>>> images/5331d9da-b0d2-4ae5-98c7-08d0e4983324
>>> list end
>>> https://s0.2mdn.net/4057102/1477575640599/2016_W40_V3_Banners_728x90.html 
>>> frame
>>> end
>>>
>>> Regular text messages use the text messaging plan that you purchase
>>> through your carrier. There are two kinds of text messages:
>>>
>>> list of 2 items
>>> ◾ SMS (Short Message Service): The original text messages that we’ve
>>> been using for years. SMS messages are limited to 160 characters and can
>>> only contain
>>> text.
>>> ◾ MMS (Multimedia Messaging Service): MMS messages extend the capability
>>> of original text messages, and support sending photos, longer text
>>> messages, and
>>> other content.
>>> list end
>>> https://secure.ace.advertising.com/site=848201/size=728090/u=2/bnum=20004995/wkhr=17/hr=17/hl=3/scres=1/swh=1366x768/sd=1/tile=1/f=2/r=1/optn=1/rclk=https%253A%252F%252Fadclick.g.doubleclick.net%252Faclk%253Fsa%253DL%2526ai%253DCJMYMIMYfWND4MdOApgO_hIjACNvS6pRGzeivteUBwI23ARABIABgybaGh8yjwBeCARdjYS1wdWItOTMwNTY3MDIxMDU3OTU1McgBCagDAaoEvgFP0Ann1Y-WpVy0BODXY0XtWhCyfq7guwR7FAWU-XB5KrZlZrEmZ0FpCDD8SFdIPVsogRqXIGnEjr-AH5hk5qakahsOnFPLmxQyGYaQNUWZQl3NizeNaNexoDwAcked3cuo2zarpA1D5dCaGFRnFwxRp0kVrhh9k7qZfx_zKS4rwzGSRVWugJWE5W6BG-EaOh4TcON3DMqY2Uhv1QMOSKpFznNQu8nQpdEtOitgeoWfTQW6-ujyQ2DFbQTkmBWmgAaei86727aCiZ8BoAYhqAemvhvYBwDSCAUIgGEQAQ%2526num%253D1%2526sig%253DAOD64_2iB8lxbx7UPZnET2NQb8CsO8DLhg%2526client%253Dca-pub-9305670210579551%2526adurl%253D/kvismob=2/fv=23/aolexp=0/tags=1/dcprice=WB_GIAAMfFAKaYBTAAICP8t6SD_GQEGkBinP8A/logignored=0/rip=ChRqcjYxMDAxNDM1NjIyMzE4MDA0ORIlQVM0MTA2ODgxNTExYmI2MGY0ODdiODlkYjNmZjAwMzY4ZjA1NRgHIgsxNjgyMTM1NDI3NyoAMhZ3d3cucGF5ZXR0ZWZvcndhcmQuY29tOLWIlAFAT0gAfQa5izudAQa5izulAUgxLD-tARalOTvdARalOTvoAQHyAQViZWxvd_0BBrmLO7ACJr0CAACAP8UCAMoCByAsZmFsc2XSAgcgLGZhbHNl6gIHcHJpbWFyeQ/rc=7F1D63DB3F034007037A428950D64835/bci=0/bidid=WB%252FGIAAMfFAKaYBTiAICPw%253D%253D/pid=1003/dref=
>>> frame
>>> get
>>> 

Re: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

[Shaf Patel]

Firstly, the NDA isn't a big deal - you won't get in trouble by Apple
for discussing the beta publicly. Secondly, I use it on my main device
because I don't depend on my phone enough to worry about many bugs.

On 11/8/2016 12:12 AM, Robin Frost wrote:
> Hi,
> No worries I’m not asking anything that’d cause anyone to violate a
> non-disclosure agreement at all. I’m merely wondering for those who
> participate in Apple’s beta testing of iOS how many do so on their main
> iDevice versus doing so on a secondary device. Right now I’ve obtained a
> secondary device for beta testing purposes but still weigh sending it
> back and merely testing on my main device. thus I was curious what
> others chose and why.
> See nothing harmful or controversial there. Thanks for indulging my
> curiosity.
> Robin
>  
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Re: questions regarding police scanning Apps

[Richard]

Hi,
The subject line says it all
Police scanning apps.
HTH,
Rick
- Original Message - 
From: "Todd Patkus" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 7:09 PM
Subject: RE: questions regarding police scanning Apps


Robin,

I see it.

When Andy said "scanner Deluxe", it sounded more likely to be similar to the 
KNFB app that scans printed materials into images.

He could have used a different word to make it more accurate so as to avoid 
confusion.

Todd

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Robin Frost
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 6:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: questions regarding police scanning Apps

Hi,
I'm not Andy but perhaps I can clarify.
Scanner Deluxe refers to an app that allows the hearing of streams of police 
radio communications. the physical devices some use to listen or stream this 
audio from are called scanners as they scan the frequencies first responders 
broadcast on. It has nothing to do with apps that scan in images of text to 
turn into speech output.  I hope this helps.
Robin


-Original Message-
From: Todd Patkus
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 6:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: questions regarding police scanning Apps

Andy,

Who is the scanner deluxe's manufacturer?  You mean it is better than KNFB?

Todd

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Andrew J. LaPointe
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 3:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: questions regarding police scanning Apps

You may try scanner deluxe.  It is similar to your app but it seems 
better to me with more local coverage.  Andy and Shubert

-Original Message-
From: Terri Stimmel
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 1:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: questions regarding police scanning Apps

Hello everyone,


I just have a quick question I hope someone can help me with.


I was wondering, is there possibly a better App out there, for finding 
police and other type feeds?

I am currently using 50 Radio Pro. I have the paid version. I've had this 
App for a few years now.

I like it alright, but it doesn't seem to have many feeds in my area. I 
don't know why this is. And it is as though they have removed a couple of 
feeds. I have found a few other feeds using Tune-in.

I live outside of Saint Louis. So you would think there would be many.
But I guess not.


Any help, or thoughts on this would be appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: the difference between text messages and iMessages

[Terrie Terlau]

Can you send an iMessage to an iPod? I'm asking because you said we don't need 
a phone number to send iMessages. Also, what do you use instead of a phone 
number?
Thank you so much. I have been trying to figure out the difference between 
these two kinds of messages for several years.
Best,
Terrie Terlau

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 6, 2016, at 10:10 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> iMessages use Apple servers, so you can use them between two Apple devices. 
> They will use your data and not your text messaging plan. You can use your 
> Apple ID, and you don't need a cellular number.
> 
> Text messages are SMS messages that use your cellular provider's services. 
> You'll need a cellular number to send a text message. You can send text 
> messages to any other device with a phone number that supports SMS.
> 
>> On 06/11/16 18:14, Robert Doc Wright wrote:
>> What’s The Difference Between iMessage and Text Messages on iPhone?
>>  1
>> BY
>> DAVID PAYETTE
>> ON JANUARY 28, 2016
>> IPHONE
>> What's The Difference Between iMessages and Text Messages on iPhone?
>> 
>> Underneath the surface, iMessages and text messages are fundamentally
>> different technologies, even though they both live in the Messages app
>> on your iPhone.
>> I think it’s important for every iPhone owner to know the difference
>> between text messages and iMessages, because that knowledge can have a
>> significant
>> impact on your phone bill.
>> 
>> Text Messages
>> https://s0.2mdn.net/4057102/1477575640599/2016_W40_V3_Banners_728x90.html 
>> frame
>> list of 3 items
>> images/fe6f36e0-3a75-45cf-84df-c901c8febc5f
>> images/0e65dbdf-a8b9-4a10-abab-28450350bc80
>> images/5331d9da-b0d2-4ae5-98c7-08d0e4983324
>> list end
>> https://s0.2mdn.net/4057102/1477575640599/2016_W40_V3_Banners_728x90.html 
>> frame
>> end
>> 
>> Regular text messages use the text messaging plan that you purchase
>> through your carrier. There are two kinds of text messages:
>> 
>> list of 2 items
>> ◾ SMS (Short Message Service): The original text messages that we’ve
>> been using for years. SMS messages are limited to 160 characters and can
>> only contain
>> text.
>> ◾ MMS (Multimedia Messaging Service): MMS messages extend the capability
>> of original text messages, and support sending photos, longer text
>> messages, and
>> other content.
>> list end
>> https://secure.ace.advertising.com/site=848201/size=728090/u=2/bnum=20004995/wkhr=17/hr=17/hl=3/scres=1/swh=1366x768/sd=1/tile=1/f=2/r=1/optn=1/rclk=https%253A%252F%252Fadclick.g.doubleclick.net%252Faclk%253Fsa%253DL%2526ai%253DCJMYMIMYfWND4MdOApgO_hIjACNvS6pRGzeivteUBwI23ARABIABgybaGh8yjwBeCARdjYS1wdWItOTMwNTY3MDIxMDU3OTU1McgBCagDAaoEvgFP0Ann1Y-WpVy0BODXY0XtWhCyfq7guwR7FAWU-XB5KrZlZrEmZ0FpCDD8SFdIPVsogRqXIGnEjr-AH5hk5qakahsOnFPLmxQyGYaQNUWZQl3NizeNaNexoDwAcked3cuo2zarpA1D5dCaGFRnFwxRp0kVrhh9k7qZfx_zKS4rwzGSRVWugJWE5W6BG-EaOh4TcON3DMqY2Uhv1QMOSKpFznNQu8nQpdEtOitgeoWfTQW6-ujyQ2DFbQTkmBWmgAaei86727aCiZ8BoAYhqAemvhvYBwDSCAUIgGEQAQ%2526num%253D1%2526sig%253DAOD64_2iB8lxbx7UPZnET2NQb8CsO8DLhg%2526client%253Dca-pub-9305670210579551%2526adurl%253D/kvismob=2/fv=23/aolexp=0/tags=1/dcprice=WB_GIAAMfFAKaYBTAAICP8t6SD_GQEGkBinP8A/logignored=0/rip=ChRqcjYxMDAxNDM1NjIyMzE4MDA0ORIlQVM0MTA2ODgxNTExYmI2MGY0ODdiODlkYjNmZjAwMzY4ZjA1NRgHIgsxNjgyMTM1NDI3NyoAMhZ3d3cucGF5ZXR0ZWZvcndhcmQuY29tOLWIlAFAT0gAfQa5izudAQa5izulAUgxLD-tARalOTvdARalOTvoAQHyAQViZWxvd_0BBrmLO7ACJr0CAACAP8UCAMoCByAsZmFsc2XSAgcgLGZhbHNl6gIHcHJpbWFyeQ/rc=7F1D63DB3F034007037A428950D64835/bci=0/bidid=WB%252FGIAAMfFAKaYBTiAICPw%253D%253D/pid=1003/dref=
>> frame
>> get
>> https://secure.ace.advertising.com/site=848201/size=728090/u=2/bnum=20004995/wkhr=17/hr=17/hl=3/scres=1/swh=1366x768/sd=1/tile=1/f=2/r=1/optn=1/rclk=https%253A%252F%252Fadclick.g.doubleclick.net%252Faclk%253Fsa%253DL%2526ai%253DCJMYMIMYfWND4MdOApgO_hIjACNvS6pRGzeivteUBwI23ARABIABgybaGh8yjwBeCARdjYS1wdWItOTMwNTY3MDIxMDU3OTU1McgBCagDAaoEvgFP0Ann1Y-WpVy0BODXY0XtWhCyfq7guwR7FAWU-XB5KrZlZrEmZ0FpCDD8SFdIPVsogRqXIGnEjr-AH5hk5qakahsOnFPLmxQyGYaQNUWZQl3NizeNaNexoDwAcked3cuo2zarpA1D5dCaGFRnFwxRp0kVrhh9k7qZfx_zKS4rwzGSRVWugJWE5W6BG-EaOh4TcON3DMqY2Uhv1QMOSKpFznNQu8nQpdEtOitgeoWfTQW6-ujyQ2DFbQTkmBWmgAaei86727aCiZ8BoAYhqAemvhvYBwDSCAUIgGEQAQ%2526num%253D1%2526sig%253DAOD64_2iB8lxbx7UPZnET2NQb8CsO8DLhg%2526client%253Dca-pub-9305670210579551%2526adurl%253D/kvismob=2/fv=23/aolexp=0/tags=1/dcprice=WB_GIAAMfFAKaYBTAAICP8t6SD_GQEGkBinP8A/logignored=0/rip=ChRqcjYxMDAxNDM1NjIyMzE4MDA0ORIlQVM0MTA2ODgxNTExYmI2MGY0ODdiODlkYjNmZjAwMzY4ZjA1NRgHIgsxNjgyMTM1NDI3NyoAMhZ3d3cucGF5ZXR0ZWZvcndhcmQuY29tOLWIlAFAT0gAfQa5izudAQa5izulAUgxLD-tARalOTvdARalOTvoAQHyAQViZWxvd_0BBrmLO7ACJr0CAACAP8UCAMoCByAsZmFsc2XSAgcgLGZhbHNl6gIHcHJpbWFyeQ/rc=7F1D63DB3F034007037A428950D64835/bci=0/bidid=WB%252FGIAAMfFAKaYBTiAICPw%253D%253D/pid=1003/dref=
>> frame end
>> 
>> Carriers used to charge more to send MMS messages than SMS messages, and
>> some still do. Nowadays, most carriers most charge the same amount for
>> SMS 

RE: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

[Merv Keck]

Hi,

I chose to beta test on a secondary device. I have an iPad Mini 4 which I beta 
test with but not my iPhone or my watch or Apple TV for that matter. Just in 
case something comes up with the beta that causes voiceover to do something 
unexpected I can’t get caught without my phone. I do not have a land line. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Robin Frost
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 7:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

 

Hi,

No worries I’m not asking anything that’d cause anyone to violate a 
non-disclosure agreement at all. I’m merely wondering for those who participate 
in Apple’s beta testing of iOS how many do so on their main iDevice versus 
doing so on a secondary device. Right now I’ve obtained a secondary device for 
beta testing purposes but still weigh sending it back and merely testing on my 
main device. thus I was curious what others chose and why.

See nothing harmful or controversial there. Thanks for indulging my curiosity.

Robin

 

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Re: questions regarding police scanning Apps

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I'm not sure how he could have used different wording as that is the name of 
the app to which he was referring. How else could he have posted about it 
accurately without using its name?

Either way I'm glad the confusion was dispelled.
Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Todd Patkus

Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 7:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: questions regarding police scanning Apps

Robin,

I see it.

When Andy said "scanner Deluxe", it sounded more likely to be similar to the 
KNFB app that scans printed materials into images.


He could have used a different word to make it more accurate so as to avoid 
confusion.


Todd

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Robin Frost

Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 6:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: questions regarding police scanning Apps

Hi,
I'm not Andy but perhaps I can clarify.
Scanner Deluxe refers to an app that allows the hearing of streams of police 
radio communications. the physical devices some use to listen or stream this 
audio from are called scanners as they scan the frequencies first responders 
broadcast on. It has nothing to do with apps that scan in images of text to 
turn into speech output.  I hope this helps.

Robin


-Original Message-
From: Todd Patkus
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 6:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: questions regarding police scanning Apps

Andy,

Who is the scanner deluxe's manufacturer?  You mean it is better than KNFB?

Todd

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Of Andrew J. LaPointe

Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 3:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: questions regarding police scanning Apps

   You may try scanner deluxe.  It is similar to your app but it seems 
better to me with more local coverage.  Andy and Shubert


-Original Message-
From: Terri Stimmel
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 1:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: questions regarding police scanning Apps

Hello everyone,


I just have a quick question I hope someone can help me with.


I was wondering, is there possibly a better App out there, for finding 
police and other type feeds?


I am currently using 50 Radio Pro. I have the paid version. I've had this 
App for a few years now.


I like it alright, but it doesn't seem to have many feeds in my area. I 
don't know why this is. And it is as though they have removed a couple of 
feeds. I have found a few other feeds using Tune-in.


I live outside of Saint Louis. So you would think there would be many.
But I guess not.


Any help, or thoughts on this would be appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Quick Question for Apple iOS Beta Testers

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
No worries I’m not asking anything that’d cause anyone to violate a 
non-disclosure agreement at all. I’m merely wondering for those who participate 
in Apple’s beta testing of iOS how many do so on their main iDevice versus 
doing so on a secondary device. Right now I’ve obtained a secondary device for 
beta testing purposes but still weigh sending it back and merely testing on my 
main device. thus I was curious what others chose and why.
See nothing harmful or controversial there. Thanks for indulging my curiosity.
Robin

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RE: questions regarding police scanning Apps

[Todd Patkus]

Robin,

I see it.

When Andy said "scanner Deluxe", it sounded more likely to be similar to the 
KNFB app that scans printed materials into images.

He could have used a different word to make it more accurate so as to avoid 
confusion.

Todd

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Robin Frost
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 6:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: questions regarding police scanning Apps

Hi,
I'm not Andy but perhaps I can clarify.
Scanner Deluxe refers to an app that allows the hearing of streams of police 
radio communications. the physical devices some use to listen or stream this 
audio from are called scanners as they scan the frequencies first responders 
broadcast on. It has nothing to do with apps that scan in images of text to 
turn into speech output.  I hope this helps.
Robin


-Original Message-
From: Todd Patkus
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 6:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: questions regarding police scanning Apps

Andy,

Who is the scanner deluxe's manufacturer?  You mean it is better than KNFB?

Todd

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andrew J. LaPointe
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 3:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: questions regarding police scanning Apps

You may try scanner deluxe.  It is similar to your app but it seems better 
to me with more local coverage.  Andy and Shubert

-Original Message-
From: Terri Stimmel
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 1:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: questions regarding police scanning Apps

Hello everyone,


I just have a quick question I hope someone can help me with.


I was wondering, is there possibly a better App out there, for finding police 
and other type feeds?

I am currently using 50 Radio Pro. I have the paid version. I've had this App 
for a few years now.

I like it alright, but it doesn't seem to have many feeds in my area. I don't 
know why this is. And it is as though they have removed a couple of feeds. I 
have found a few other feeds using Tune-in.

I live outside of Saint Louis. So you would think there would be many.
But I guess not.


Any help, or thoughts on this would be appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: Notifications Missing on New iPhone 7 was RE: A Couple of Problems

[Robin Frost]

Hi Alan,
Thanks for posting this I feel slightly less crazy now. Even though many 
proclaimed that Apple is great with more than one device on an Apple ID and 
that push should work fine on all of them that like yours was not my 
experience at all. I'm finding it to be very hit or miss and very specific 
to apps. for instance some news apps seem to perform fine while some of my 
weather apps did not and social media apps were the worst offenders. Like 
you they seem to be one device oriented (laughs).
So while I now have a secondary device for beta testing which leads me to a 
question I'll post under separate cover I like you have found that having 
all favorite apps pushing to more than one device at a time definitely does 
seem to be quite hit or miss.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Alan Lemly

Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 3:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Notifications Missing on New iPhone 7 was RE: A Couple of 
Problems


Hi Sieghard,

After googling around, it seems to me that getting all app notifications 
across multiple devices might not be attainable. At least some of the 
threads I came across seemed to indicate that.


Since I'm pretty much a one I device kind of guy, I just went into my old 
iPhone 6 and turned off all app notifications. Now they are all coming to my 
new iPhone.


I am experiencing the same issue that Esther originally posted about that 
notifications received while my iPhone 7 is locked aren't being read by 
VoiceOver. Perhaps I'll contact Apple Accessibility about that.


Thanks to all who replied on this thread.

Alan Lemly

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 7, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Alan,

Why don't you try to call Apple Accessibility and see if they can help or, 
if you have an Apple Store nearby, stop in and talk to them.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Alan Lemly

Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2016 6:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Notifications Missing on New iPhone 7 was RE: A Couple of 
Problems


Well, I have two iphones currently with the same name and Apple I'd. I 
went in on my new iPhone 7 as you suggested and turned notifications off 
and back on for every app on my phone. However, app notifications are only 
coming in on my old iPhone 6 and not at all on my new iPhone 7. Maybe you 
can't have two devices with the sane name on the sane Apple I'd and get 
notifications on both of them. If you can, I'd love to know how to do it.


After I get all my downloaded bard book info loaded on my new phone, I'll 
reset the old phone to clear it and I expect this will no longer be an 
issue.


Alan

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 6, 2016, at 7:49 PM, Esther Levegnale  
wrote:


Hi, Alan,

I had to go into the apps to reset the notifications again and now I'm 
getting all of them back.  However, I don't get them on the locked 
screen.  Perhaps you have to go into some of the apps and set them up in 
order to receive notifications again.  I hope this will be successful for 
you.  Good luck.


Esther L.

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Nov 6, 2016, at 5:37 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

Esther and All,

I'm getting the same issue you experienced with your iPhone 7 Plus, that 
is, I'm getting all my notifications on my old iPhone 6 but nothing on 
my new iPhone 7 which was restored from an iTunes encrypted backup. I 
went under Settings, Notifications, and drilled down into each app on 
the new phone and turned notifications off and back on again but I'm 
still not getting anything. I didn't have your problem with my music as 
it all came over when I synced with iTunes.


Can anyone offer any suggestions how I can get the notifications on my 
new iPhone 7? Do I need to turn them off on my iPhone 6? I will be 
resetting and clearing the iPhone 6 in order to sell it but that won't 
be for a few days until I get all my BARD Mobile books identified and my 
reading position noted.


Thanks in advance.

Alan Lemly

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Esther Levegnale

Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 2:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Couple of Problems

Hi, Sieghard!

Thanks for your response.  I actually am not getting notifications at 
all, and yes, the speak notifications in VoiceOver is turned on.  All my 
apps are turned on and I've always had speak on locked screen on, even 
on my other phones.  It's quite a dilemma.  I just went in and checked 
all the settings again and they are as I've had them.  I usually get 
notifications from CNN, Headlines, a couple of my local television 
channels, and my FitBit device, among others.


Thanks again and take care!

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Oct 6, 2016, at 10:22 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 

Re: questions regarding police scanning Apps

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I'm not Andy but perhaps I can clarify.
Scanner Deluxe refers to an app that allows the hearing of streams of police 
radio communications. the physical devices some use to listen or stream this 
audio from are called scanners as they scan the frequencies first responders 
broadcast on. It has nothing to do with apps that scan in images of text to 
turn into speech output.  I hope this helps.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Todd Patkus

Sent: Monday, November 7, 2016 6:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: questions regarding police scanning Apps

Andy,

Who is the scanner deluxe's manufacturer?  You mean it is better than KNFB?

Todd

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Andrew J. LaPointe

Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 3:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: questions regarding police scanning Apps

   You may try scanner deluxe.  It is similar to your app but it seems 
better to me with more local coverage.  Andy and Shubert


-Original Message-
From: Terri Stimmel
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 1:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: questions regarding police scanning Apps

Hello everyone,


I just have a quick question I hope someone can help me with.


I was wondering, is there possibly a better App out there, for finding 
police and other type feeds?


I am currently using 50 Radio Pro. I have the paid version. I've had this 
App for a few years now.


I like it alright, but it doesn't seem to have many feeds in my area. I 
don't know why this is. And it is as though they have removed a couple of 
feeds. I have found a few other feeds using Tune-in.


I live outside of Saint Louis. So you would think there would be many.
But I guess not.


Any help, or thoughts on this would be appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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RE: questions regarding police scanning Apps

[Todd Patkus]

Andy,

Who is the scanner deluxe's manufacturer?  You mean it is better than KNFB?

Todd

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Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 3:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: questions regarding police scanning Apps

You may try scanner deluxe.  It is similar to your app but it seems better 
to me with more local coverage.  Andy and Shubert

-Original Message-
From: Terri Stimmel
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 1:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: questions regarding police scanning Apps

Hello everyone,


I just have a quick question I hope someone can help me with.


I was wondering, is there possibly a better App out there, for finding police 
and other type feeds?

I am currently using 50 Radio Pro. I have the paid version. I've had this App 
for a few years now.

I like it alright, but it doesn't seem to have many feeds in my area. I don't 
know why this is. And it is as though they have removed a couple of feeds. I 
have found a few other feeds using Tune-in.

I live outside of Saint Louis. So you would think there would be many.
But I guess not.


Any help, or thoughts on this would be appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: Notifications Missing on New iPhone 7 was RE: A Couple of Problems

[Alan Lemly]

Hi Sieghard, 

After googling around, it seems to me that getting all app notifications across 
multiple devices might not be attainable. At least some of the threads I came 
across seemed to indicate that. 

Since I'm pretty much a one I device kind of guy, I just went into my old 
iPhone 6 and turned off all app notifications. Now they are all coming to my 
new iPhone. 

I am experiencing the same issue that Esther originally posted about that 
notifications received while my iPhone 7 is locked aren't being read by 
VoiceOver. Perhaps I'll contact Apple Accessibility about that. 

Thanks to all who replied on this thread. 

Alan Lemly 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 7, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Alan,
> 
> Why don't you try to call Apple Accessibility and see if they can help or, if 
> you have an Apple Store nearby, stop in and talk to them.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Lemly
> Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2016 6:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Notifications Missing on New iPhone 7 was RE: A Couple of 
> Problems
> 
> Well, I have two iphones currently with the same name and Apple I'd. I went 
> in on my new iPhone 7 as you suggested and turned notifications off and back 
> on for every app on my phone. However, app notifications are only coming in 
> on my old iPhone 6 and not at all on my new iPhone 7. Maybe you can't have 
> two devices with the sane name on the sane Apple I'd and get notifications on 
> both of them. If you can, I'd love to know how to do it. 
> 
> After I get all my downloaded bard book info loaded on my new phone, I'll 
> reset the old phone to clear it and I expect this will no longer be an issue. 
> 
> Alan 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 6, 2016, at 7:49 PM, Esther Levegnale  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, Alan,
>> 
>> I had to go into the apps to reset the notifications again and now I'm 
>> getting all of them back.  However, I don't get them on the locked screen.  
>> Perhaps you have to go into some of the apps and set them up in order to 
>> receive notifications again.  I hope this will be successful for you.  Good 
>> luck.
>> 
>> Esther L.
>> 
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>> 
>>> On Nov 6, 2016, at 5:37 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Esther and All,
>>> 
>>> I'm getting the same issue you experienced with your iPhone 7 Plus, that 
>>> is, I'm getting all my notifications on my old iPhone 6 but nothing on my 
>>> new iPhone 7 which was restored from an iTunes encrypted backup. I went 
>>> under Settings, Notifications, and drilled down into each app on the new 
>>> phone and turned notifications off and back on again but I'm still not 
>>> getting anything. I didn't have your problem with my music as it all came 
>>> over when I synced with iTunes.
>>> 
>>> Can anyone offer any suggestions how I can get the notifications on my new 
>>> iPhone 7? Do I need to turn them off on my iPhone 6? I will be resetting 
>>> and clearing the iPhone 6 in order to sell it but that won't be for a few 
>>> days until I get all my BARD Mobile books identified and my reading 
>>> position noted.
>>> 
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>> 
>>> Alan Lemly
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Esther Levegnale
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 2:26 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: A Couple of Problems
>>> 
>>> Hi, Sieghard!
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your response.  I actually am not getting notifications at all, 
>>> and yes, the speak notifications in VoiceOver is turned on.  All my apps 
>>> are turned on and I've always had speak on locked screen on, even on my 
>>> other phones.  It's quite a dilemma.  I just went in and checked all the 
>>> settings again and they are as I've had them.  I usually get notifications 
>>> from CNN, Headlines, a couple of my local television channels, and my 
>>> FitBit device, among others.
>>> 
>>> Thanks again and take care!
>>> 
>>> Esther
>>> 
>>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>>> 
 On Oct 6, 2016, at 10:22 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 
 Hi Esther,
 
 The fact you still have your old iPhone does not matter with respect to 
 notifications on your new phone. If set up correctly Notifications should 
 speak. Maybe you can explain exactly which notifications you want and  how 
 you want them. Do you want them to show up on the lockscreen and/or in 
 notification centre? Do you want Voiceover to automatically speak them? 
 You may want to check in Voiceover settings for the "Automatically speak 
 notifications" toggle and turn it on if it is off.
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
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RE: Bad iOS 10 X download how can I fix it?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Sandy,

As Christopher said, doing this via iTunes is the best way. I would do an 
encrypted backup and then select the Restore button, this will download the 
latest version of iOS to your computer and then restore your iPhone, when it's 
done you'll be asked if you want to set up as a new phone or restore either 
from an iCloud or iTunes backup.
While there are definite accessibility issues with Jaws and iTunes, there is no 
issue whatsoever when it comes to doing an encrypted backup or upgrading or 
restoring via iTunes. When your phone is connected, just find the "iPhone" 
button, then tab until you find the appropriate buttons like Update, Restore, 
Backup etc., in order to do an encrypted backup you will have to check the 
little checkbox and then enter and re-enter a password. Make sure you use one 
you'll remember, this is not anywhere in the cloud so I don't usually pick a 
very long and complicated password, you could even do a 4-number PinN. 
If you don't want to do a restore and haven't installed the latest update, 
10.1.1, you could simply try to upgrade via iTunes, in fact, you might want to 
try it first and see if this fixes your issues, you can always do a restore 
later and if you have already downloaded iOS 10.1.1 to do the update this 
should be on your computer for a restore also.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
christopher hallsworth
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 10:21 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: Bad iOS 10 X download how can I fix it?

If it's a bad install, do it through iTunes. I do not remember the process 
until I come to it myself, and since I am a full time mac user I'm not sure on 
the latest Windows and iTunes accessibility other than it's *bad*.
> On 7 Nov 2016, at 18:15, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
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> hi to everyone,
> I have iOS 10.01 on my iPhone 6 but it is a bad download. lots of things are 
> going wrong and Daniel is stuck on the compressed voice. Reading mail is a 
> nightmare et cetera. obviously, I need to re-install the latest iOS. can 
> anyone advise me as to the best method to do this?
> 
> thanks in advance, Sandy
> 
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Important: the process of putting IOS into DFU mode has changed as of IOS10

[Rajmund]

Hi Guys,
First of all, if this is old,  I don't know of it. Second, because my phone may 
have past away, sad, I know, I'm trying the last chance, DFU. So, I powered off 
the phone, held in POWER, then tried home. Every time I did that, though, the 
apple logo immediately appeared. Turns out the process has changed. So now:
1) Make sure you're connected to iTunes, and phone's on. 2) Hold down 
home-power, till iTunes says that you have to either recover or restore. For 
those with light vision, you will be looking for a slightly dimmed screen, but 
not total darkness. I'm surprised none of the apple lists that I have joined, 
have mentioned this, particularly since I find it pretty important to  mention 
it.  Anyway, we all now know that it has changed. Any questions, please ask. 

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Re: questions regarding police scanning Apps

['ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone]

Scanner radio deluxe might serve you better.  Both talk to broadcastify.com. 
One possibility for the reduced number of feeds, Most of those feeds are 
provided by individuals For example, the feed for the W8VPV repeater is 
basically a scanner at 60 feet connected to a computer streaming to 
broadcastify.  What may have happened is that some of these individuals have 
had to discontinue their feeds.  If on the other hand, the feed is being 
provided by a government entity then you're pretty much at the murcy of that 
entity and what they decide to stream or not.  If you try scanner radio 
deluxe, let me know how you get on with it.


-Original Message- 
From: Terri Stimmel

Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 01:05
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: questions regarding police scanning Apps

Hello everyone,


I just have a quick question I hope someone can help me with.


I was wondering, is there possibly a better App out there, for finding
police and other type feeds?

I am currently using 50 Radio Pro. I have the paid version. I've had
this App for a few years now.

I like it alright, but it doesn't seem to have many feeds in my area. I
don't know why this is. And it is as though they have removed a couple
of feeds. I have found a few other feeds using Tune-in.

I live outside of Saint Louis. So you would think there would be many.
But I guess not.


Any help, or thoughts on this would be appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: Bad iOS 10 X download how can I fix it?

[Malcolm Parfitt]

The best way is to put your phone into recovery mode and use ITunes to download 
a new version of iOS.

Firstly, turn off your phone.

Connect it to your computer with ITunes running.

Press both the power and home buttons on your phone and hold for about 15 
seconds.

Release the power button and keep the home button depressed and ITunes should 
detect a phone in recovery mode.

You can then choose to download and restore your phone.

On an I6 it may be power with volume down rather than home can't remember try 
both, one should work.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 7 Nov 2016, at 18:27, Rajmund  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Tried installing 1.01 first, to see what happens? Whether the issues are 
> fixed?
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from a Braille Sense 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone  
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Monday, November 7, 2016 6:15 pm
> Subject: Bad iOS 10 X download how can I fix it?
> 
>> 
>> 
>> hi to everyone,
>> I have iOS 10.01 on my iPhone 6 but it is a bad download. lots of things are 
>> going wrong and Daniel is stuck on the compressed voice. Reading mail is a 
>> nightmare et cetera. obviously, I need to re-install the latest iOS. can 
>> anyone advise me as to the best method to do this?
>> 
>> thanks in advance, Sandy
>> 
>> sent from the dark side of the moon
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Re: Bad iOS 10 X download how can I fix it?

[Rajmund]

Hi,
Tried installing 1.01 first, to see what happens? Whether the issues are fixed?



Sent from a Braille Sense 

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From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone  
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, November 7, 2016 6:15 pm
Subject: Bad iOS 10 X download how can I fix it?

>
>
> hi to everyone,
> I have iOS 10.01 on my iPhone 6 but it is a bad download. lots of things are 
> going wrong and Daniel is stuck on the compressed voice. Reading mail is a 
> nightmare et cetera. obviously, I need to re-install the latest iOS. can 
> anyone advise me as to the best method to do this?
> 
> thanks in advance, Sandy
> 
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Viphone 7 ignoring lightning connected headsets

[Larry Lumpkin]

I have found that my new Iphone 7 often ignores a headset connected to it
whether it be the lightning  buds that shipped with it or the aftershokz
bone-conduction set connected via the adaptor.  It usually comes back just
by itself or by re-connecting it.  Last time however, it did not and I had
to connect the charger to the phone and then re-connect the headset or buds.
Has anyone else experienced this?

 

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RE: questions regarding police scanning Apps

[Kevin Minor]

Hi Terri.

I can't recommend a good police scanner app, but I can explain why the choices 
are decreasing.  Within the past few years, many ares have gone digital.  In 
other words, they're encrypting their transmissions, and you need a special 
code to decrypt them.  Some places are giving the codes out, but others aren't. 
 In a way, I can understand the latter thinking, because if using analog 
transmissions, the bad guys would know the cops were coming and quit their bad 
guy behavior.  It's kind of sad, though, because I enjoyed listening to the 
police and fire.  Both my Grandfathers and an uncle of mine were volunteer fire 
fighters, and my Grandparents on my Mom's side were perametics, so it was fun 
to hear what was going on.  I also had the 10 codes of the local police for 
Lexington, Kentucky, where I live, so I could know pretty well what was 
happening.

Hope that, if it doesn't help, at least it sheds some light on what's happening.

Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY

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Re: Bad iOS 10 X download how can I fix it?

[christopher hallsworth]

If it's a bad install, do it through iTunes. I do not remember the process 
until I come to it myself, and since I am a full time mac user I'm not sure on 
the latest Windows and iTunes accessibility other than it's *bad*.
> On 7 Nov 2016, at 18:15, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone 
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> 
> hi to everyone,
> I have iOS 10.01 on my iPhone 6 but it is a bad download. lots of things are 
> going wrong and Daniel is stuck on the compressed voice. Reading mail is a 
> nightmare et cetera. obviously, I need to re-install the latest iOS. can 
> anyone advise me as to the best method to do this?
> 
> thanks in advance, Sandy
> 
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Bad iOS 10 X download how can I fix it?

['Sandratomkins' via VIPhone]

hi to everyone,
I have iOS 10.01 on my iPhone 6 but it is a bad download. lots of things are 
going wrong and Daniel is stuck on the compressed voice. Reading mail is a 
nightmare et cetera. obviously, I need to re-install the latest iOS. can anyone 
advise me as to the best method to do this?

thanks in advance, Sandy

sent from the dark side of the moon

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re: email setup question

[rajmund]

Hi,
Settings, mail, account name, advanced, and look around in there.  
I don't have a POP account to check right now.


Sent from a BrailleNote

- Original Message -
From: Gordon 

email setup question

[Gordon]

So I use Godaddy for my personal email account and I don't think their 
free included email account comes with imap access. So I have it set up 
in my iPhone as a pop3 account. I can't seem to find the options to 
indicate how often I want to check email in the background. I only use 
this account for personal stuff, IE my daughter's teacher and official 
stuff like that. So once an hour or 30 minutes would be perfect for 
checking this account.


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RE: Notifications Missing on New iPhone 7 was RE: A Couple of Problems

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Alan,

Why don't you try to call Apple Accessibility and see if they can help or, if 
you have an Apple Store nearby, stop in and talk to them.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Lemly
Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2016 6:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Notifications Missing on New iPhone 7 was RE: A Couple of Problems

Well, I have two iphones currently with the same name and Apple I'd. I went in 
on my new iPhone 7 as you suggested and turned notifications off and back on 
for every app on my phone. However, app notifications are only coming in on my 
old iPhone 6 and not at all on my new iPhone 7. Maybe you can't have two 
devices with the sane name on the sane Apple I'd and get notifications on both 
of them. If you can, I'd love to know how to do it. 

After I get all my downloaded bard book info loaded on my new phone, I'll reset 
the old phone to clear it and I expect this will no longer be an issue. 

Alan 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 6, 2016, at 7:49 PM, Esther Levegnale  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Alan,
> 
> I had to go into the apps to reset the notifications again and now I'm 
> getting all of them back.  However, I don't get them on the locked screen.  
> Perhaps you have to go into some of the apps and set them up in order to 
> receive notifications again.  I hope this will be successful for you.  Good 
> luck.
> 
> Esther L.
> 
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
> 
>> On Nov 6, 2016, at 5:37 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
>> 
>> Esther and All,
>> 
>> I'm getting the same issue you experienced with your iPhone 7 Plus, that is, 
>> I'm getting all my notifications on my old iPhone 6 but nothing on my new 
>> iPhone 7 which was restored from an iTunes encrypted backup. I went under 
>> Settings, Notifications, and drilled down into each app on the new phone and 
>> turned notifications off and back on again but I'm still not getting 
>> anything. I didn't have your problem with my music as it all came over when 
>> I synced with iTunes.
>> 
>> Can anyone offer any suggestions how I can get the notifications on my new 
>> iPhone 7? Do I need to turn them off on my iPhone 6? I will be resetting and 
>> clearing the iPhone 6 in order to sell it but that won't be for a few days 
>> until I get all my BARD Mobile books identified and my reading position 
>> noted.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> Alan Lemly
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Esther Levegnale
>> Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 2:26 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: A Couple of Problems
>> 
>> Hi, Sieghard!
>> 
>> Thanks for your response.  I actually am not getting notifications at all, 
>> and yes, the speak notifications in VoiceOver is turned on.  All my apps are 
>> turned on and I've always had speak on locked screen on, even on my other 
>> phones.  It's quite a dilemma.  I just went in and checked all the settings 
>> again and they are as I've had them.  I usually get notifications from CNN, 
>> Headlines, a couple of my local television channels, and my FitBit device, 
>> among others.
>> 
>> Thanks again and take care!
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>> 
>>> On Oct 6, 2016, at 10:22 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Esther,
>>> 
>>> The fact you still have your old iPhone does not matter with respect to 
>>> notifications on your new phone. If set up correctly Notifications should 
>>> speak. Maybe you can explain exactly which notifications you want and  how 
>>> you want them. Do you want them to show up on the lockscreen and/or in 
>>> notification centre? Do you want Voiceover to automatically speak them? You 
>>> may want to check in Voiceover settings for the "Automatically speak 
>>> notifications" toggle and turn it on if it is off.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Esther Levegnale
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 6:14 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: A Couple of Problems
>>> 
>>> Hi, Alan!
>>> 
>>> Thanks for responding.  Concerning the native mail app, the three-finger 
>>> placement on the unread message is great!  However, as far as my 
>>> notifications are concerned, I do have all the apps on in the Notifications 
>>> app and I'm still not getting them.  Maybe it's because I still have my 
>>> iPhone 6+ and everything is still on it.  I'm not going to wipe it clean 
>>> yet until I get my Music straightened out.
>>> 
>>> Thanks so much for your suggestions.
>>> 
>>> Esther
>>> 
>>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>>> 
 On Oct 5, 2016, at 10:50 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
 
 Esther,
 
 Apple changed the way the 

The Updated Gmail iOS App and VoiceOver

[Craig Werner]

Hello, everyone.

It might be of interest to a number of you that the latest release of
the Gmail app for iOS devices operates somewhat differently with
VoiceOver than did previous versions, and based on the testing I have
done, the app has improved for VoiceOver users.  In earlier versions,
if one wanted to delete a message from the message index, one would
have to check a checkbox next to its header information and then press
a "Delete" button.  Now, double-tap and holding the button
corresponding to the unwanted message places the app in a "Select"
mode.  The user can then move down the list of messages and simply
double-tap the unwanted ones; the "hold" gesture needs to be used only
on the first undesired  message.  Then, once the "delete" list has
been compiled, the "Delete" button can be activated.  There are other
ways to get rid of messages, but I don't want to make this message
overly long.  There is also an "Undo" button which evidently allows
the user to take back a number of actions.  I have not tested this
function yet.  Most gratifying is the possibility that the bug which
prevented text editing of the body of a message may have been
squashed, at least if the user is typing on the on-screen keyboard.  I
haven't tested it with a Bluetooth keyboard yet.

Craig

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Re: Ios's Braille keyboard and the for-sign don't work?

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Gerardo,

The iPhone touch screen only recognizes up to five fingers at once. To type the 
for sign, put five fingers on the screen, and while holding down four of them, 
lift one and add the sixth. It's a little awkward at first, but doable.

Best,
Anna


Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 7, 2016, at 5:58 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> Hi guys
> Any tips and tricks on an IPhone 4S, using latest iOS, the for-sign on the 
> Braille keyboard doesn't seem to work?  Thanks in advance for info.
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone 4S
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Re: Notes and voiceover

[becky knaub]

Yes. Unfortunately that isn't working nor is hitting the VO keys and using the 
down arrow key. Also I have tried doing these things with quick nav on and off.

Becky and Hazel

> On Nov 7, 2016, at 9:39 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:
> 
> Once you have the roter set for lines, are you swiping down to read each line?
>  
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> Hi all,
> I am working with the clients iPad and I found a problem. There is difficulty 
> with going line by line in a document in notes when the document is written 
> in paragraph format. I have tried using the keyboard and using my finger on 
> the touchscreen to go line by line. Even when I make sure the rotor is set to 
> go by line it is not working. Any suggestions would be welcome. 
> 
> Becky and Hazel
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RE: Notes and voiceover

[Tom Rash]

Once you have the roter set for lines, are you swiping down to read each line?

 

 

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becky knaub
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 6:26 AM
To: ViPhone 
Subject: Notes and voiceover

 

Hi all,

I am working with the clients iPad and I found a problem. There is difficulty 
with going line by line in a document in notes when the document is written in 
paragraph format. I have tried using the keyboard and using my finger on the 
touchscreen to go line by line. Even when I make sure the rotor is set to go by 
line it is not working. Any suggestions would be welcome. 

Becky and Hazel

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Notes and voiceover

[becky knaub]

Hi all,
I am working with the clients iPad and I found a problem. There is difficulty 
with going line by line in a document in notes when the document is written in 
paragraph format. I have tried using the keyboard and using my finger on the 
touchscreen to go line by line. Even when I make sure the rotor is set to go by 
line it is not working. Any suggestions would be welcome. 

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New DirecTV Now Details Leak - Including Some of The Channel Lineup - Cord Cutters News

[Kliphton Miller]

>>> Details of the new DirecTV Now service have been thin, but now it looks 
>>> like we finally get some new details.
>>> 
>>> Variety  
>>> has
>>>  reported they received new leaked documents. The leaked documents come 
>>> from a customer-support training manual to help train call center employees.
>>> 
>>> Here is what we learned:
>>> 
>>> Subscribers who are willing to commit to at least three months of paid 
>>> service will be able to get a free Apple TV as part of a device promotion, 
>>> similar to the Sling TV device deal.
>>> Some of the channels include Audience Network, Food Network, MTV, TBS, AXS 
>>> TV, Fox, MTV 2, TCM, BET, FYI, MundoFox, TNT, Bravo, Galavision, NBC, 
>>> Travel Channel, Cartoon Network, Golf, NBC Sports Network, TruTV, CBS, 
>>> Hallmark, Nickelodeon, TV Land.
>>> Many, but not all networks will support a 72-hour catch-up window, allowing 
>>> you to re-watch shows, similar to how Sling handles their on-demand content.
>>> Will have access to WatchESPN
>>> Over 14,000 VOD tittles. (No mention if these are free or paid titles.)
>>> DirecTV Now will give consumers a 7-day free trial
>>> Some other less exciting details:
>>> 
>>> Some channels will only be available to stream on PC or mobile devices such 
>>> as NBC Local channels. “NBC local channels are currently unavailable using 
>>> streaming devices or smart TVs,” the leaked documents explain, meaning 
>>> there may be no streaming on devices like the Fire TV or Apple TV.
>>> 
>>> Source: Variety 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Charging IPhone Se the first time

[Dave]

I have never had a flat iPhone yet, even when it has been purchased directly 
from apple.


Dave.

-Original Message- 
From: rajmund

Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 11:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Charging IPhone Se the first time

Hello,
I bought mine in January, 2016, 5S, had 60 something battery,
and it was on 9.02, I think it was.  So no, it doesn't
necessarily mean it was used.

Sent from a BrailleNote

- Original Message -
From: Amirudin Abdullah 
wrote:

You can use it immediately when you get it, all iPhones are
usually precharged and then turned off and I don't think I ever
received a single new iPhone that had less than 60% of battery
available when I turned it on.If you want to be sure you can
always plug it in, this will also power it up and if you set it
up as a blind user just give it a good 2 or 3 minutes after you
plug it in, then press the power/sleep button the side to wake up
the screen and then triple press the home button, this should
then start Voiceover at the setup screen, double tap on the Hello
message that is displayed in changing languages and follow the
instructions.  Also keep in mind that whenever you get to the
first edit field, usually where you enter your WiFi password,
typing mode is by default set to standard which means you have to
double or split tap each character.  You can, however, right then
and there turn the rotor to typing style and set it to touch
typing.


Regards,
Sieghard

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On Behalf Of Husna Begum
Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2016 1:38 PM
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Subject: Charging IPhone Se the first time

Hi,

How long should an IPhone Se be charged for the first time
before use?

Thanks, Husna

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Re: Charging IPhone Se the first time

[Dave]

NO. The iPhone always comes with some amount of charge already in it, even when 
it is new.

Dave.

From: Amirudin Abdullah 
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 9:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Charging IPhone Se the first time

hi,
if i am not wrong, i receive this iphone 5s and the battery is about 39 
percent. it is iphone 5s and i came with ios 9 point 1 and i bought it on 13 
february.2016.  i think. strange. is this used already? i remember it was from 
apple i purchase it.

amir. 
 http://twitter.com/amir442


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  You can use it immediately when you get it, all iPhones are usually 
precharged and then turned off and I don’t think I ever received a single new 
iPhone that had less than 60% of battery available when I turned it on.If you 
want to be sure you can always plug it in, this will also power it up and if 
you set it up as a blind user just give it a good 2 or 3 minutes after you plug 
it in, then press the power/sleep button the side to wake up the screen and 
then triple press the home button, this should then start Voiceover at the 
setup screen, double tap on the Hello message that is displayed in changing 
languages and follow the instructions. Also keep in mind that whenever you get 
to the first edit field, usually where you enter your WiFi password, typing 
mode is by default set to standard which means you have to double or split tap 
each character. You can, however, right then and there turn the rotor to typing 
style and set it to touch typing.

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

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Husna Begum
  Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2016 1:38 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Charging IPhone Se the first time

   

  Hi,

   

  How long should an IPhone Se be charged for the first time before use?

   

  Thanks, Husna

   

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RE: no home button?

[Debby]

Yes it does feel like a button, but mechanically it doesn't do anything. You 
can't really move it. When you press your finger to it you get the haptic 
thing--the phone kind of shutters.

Debby
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
James Homuth
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 7:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: no home button?

Um. The home button on my 7 looks pretty much like a button to me. We looking 
at the same phone?

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Debby
Sent: November-07-16 7:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: no home button?

The 7 home button is just an indented round spot on the screen. Your 
fingerprint still gets read there. It does seem smaller in diameter to me than 
the old home button. I don't have a 7, but my sister as a newby has one. (can 
you say tough learning curve!) She is in another state, so I can't take another 
look at it right now.
 
Have fun!

Debby

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Subject: Re: no home button?

well, there is a home button, it's just not a mechanical home button. 
Yes you can feel it on the screen

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RE: no home button?

[James Homuth]

Um. The home button on my 7 looks pretty much like a button to me. We
looking at the same phone?

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Subject: RE: no home button?

The 7 home button is just an indented round spot on the screen. Your
fingerprint still gets read there. It does seem smaller in diameter to me
than the old home button. I don't have a 7, but my sister as a newby has
one. (can you say tough learning curve!) She is in another state, so I can't
take another look at it right now.
 
Have fun!

Debby

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well, there is a home button, it's just not a mechanical home button. 
Yes you can feel it on the screen

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re: Ios's Braille keyboard and the for-sign don't work?

[rajmund]

Hi Gera,
I believe even the 7, unless it's the plus, will only recognise 5 
fingers at once.  So to do the for, you will have to lift one 
finger off the screen, and put the missing one on the screen.


Sent from a BrailleNote

- Original Message -
From: Gerardo Corripio 

RE: no home button?

[Debby]

The 7 home button is just an indented round spot on the screen. Your 
fingerprint still gets read there. It does seem smaller in diameter to me than 
the old home button. I don't have a 7, but my sister as a newby has one. (can 
you say tough learning curve!) She is in another state, so I can't take another 
look at it right now.
 
Have fun!

Debby

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well, there is a home button, it's just not a mechanical home button. 
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Ios's Braille keyboard and the for-sign don't work?

[Gerardo Corripio]

Hi guys
Any tips and tricks on an IPhone 4S, using latest iOS, the for-sign on the 
Braille keyboard doesn't seem to work?  Thanks in advance for info.

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 4S

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Re: Charging IPhone Se the first time

[rajmund]

Hello,
I bought mine in January, 2016, 5S, had 60 something battery, 
and it was on 9.02, I think it was.  So no, it doesn't 
necessarily mean it was used.


Sent from a BrailleNote

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You can use it immediately when you get it, all iPhones are 
usually precharged and then turned off and I don't think I ever 
received a single new iPhone that had less than 60% of battery 
available when I turned it on.If you want to be sure you can 
always plug it in, this will also power it up and if you set it 
up as a blind user just give it a good 2 or 3 minutes after you 
plug it in, then press the power/sleep button the side to wake up 
the screen and then triple press the home button, this should 
then start Voiceover at the setup screen, double tap on the Hello 
message that is displayed in changing languages and follow the 
instructions.  Also keep in mind that whenever you get to the 
first edit field, usually where you enter your WiFi password, 
typing mode is by default set to standard which means you have to 
double or split tap each character.  You can, however, right then 
and there turn the rotor to typing style and set it to touch 
typing.



Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
On Behalf Of Husna Begum

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Subject: Charging IPhone Se the first time

Hi,

How long should an IPhone Se be charged for the first time 
before use?


Thanks, Husna

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Re: questions regarding police scanning Apps

[Andrew J. LaPointe]

   You may try scanner deluxe.  It is similar to your app but it seems 
better to me with more local coverage.  Andy and Shubert


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Subject: questions regarding police scanning Apps

Hello everyone,


I just have a quick question I hope someone can help me with.


I was wondering, is there possibly a better App out there, for finding
police and other type feeds?

I am currently using 50 Radio Pro. I have the paid version. I've had
this App for a few years now.

I like it alright, but it doesn't seem to have many feeds in my area. I
don't know why this is. And it is as though they have removed a couple
of feeds. I have found a few other feeds using Tune-in.

I live outside of Saint Louis. So you would think there would be many.
But I guess not.


Any help, or thoughts on this would be appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: Charging IPhone Se the first time

[Amirudin Abdullah]

hi,
if i am not wrong, i receive this iphone 5s and the battery is about 39 
percent. it is iphone 5s and i came with ios 9 point 1 and i bought it on 13 
february.2016.  i think. strange. is this used already? i remember it was from 
apple i purchase it.

amir.
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> On 7 Nov 2016, at 5:44 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> You can use it immediately when you get it, all iPhones are usually 
> precharged and then turned off and I don’t think I ever received a single new 
> iPhone that had less than 60% of battery available when I turned it on.If you 
> want to be sure you can always plug it in, this will also power it up and if 
> you set it up as a blind user just give it a good 2 or 3 minutes after you 
> plug it in, then press the power/sleep button the side to wake up the screen 
> and then triple press the home button, this should then start Voiceover at 
> the setup screen, double tap on the Hello message that is displayed in 
> changing languages and follow the instructions. Also keep in mind that 
> whenever you get to the first edit field, usually where you enter your WiFi 
> password, typing mode is by default set to standard which means you have to 
> double or split tap each character. You can, however, right then and there 
> turn the rotor to typing style and set it to touch typing.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Husna Begum
> Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2016 1:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Charging IPhone Se the first time
>  
> Hi,
>  
> How long should an IPhone Se be charged for the first time before use?
>  
> Thanks, Husna
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Re: Setting up Mailbox for ViPhone User Group

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

Depending on your mail service provider, you can do this at your server end.  I 
have cPanel, and have a lot of forwarders set up. 
This does what you want.
Safari should be able to operate the cPanel interface. This would include the 
webmail service.

Note:  this is commonest in a hosting package with your own domain name, and 
all that.

BobH.
- Original Message - 
From: "Greg Rhodes" 
To: "ViPhone Users Group" 
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 12:17 AM
Subject: Setting up Mailbox for ViPhone User Group


Is there a way to set up a mailbox on my iPhone so that all email from the 
ViPhone user group go to a specific ViPhone mailbox 
instead of my main Inbox. Did this on my Mac with the “Smart” mailbox feature. 
As I understand from Apple Accessibility, “Smart” 
mailboxes aren’t available on iPhones. Guess I could set up a separate email 
address for each user group I subscribed to but not 
real excited about doing that. Any ideas?

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Re: no home button?

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

For clarity:  that's a screen button, not a mechanical one, right?

So, how does the finger print thing work now?

Thanks, BobH.
- Original Message - 
From: "Daniel Miller" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 12:16 AM
Subject: Re: no home button?


The iPhone 7 does have a home button. Wherever you found that from is obviously 
giving false information. The only difference about 
the button is that haptic,it's   and a mechanical.

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus

> On Nov 6, 2016, at 7:08 PM, 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone 
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> Help me out folks if the IPhone 7 doesn’t have a home button how are 
> functions which would normally require this button performed?
> Ray T. Mahorney
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Re: Notifications Missing on New iPhone 7 was RE: A Couple of Problems

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
I agree with you sir.  I know in theory or principle it should work but I've 
found it to be iffy too at best as I now have two iPhone 7Plus's on the same 
Apple ID. Some apps perform fine pushing to both some just refuse to do it. 
As to why it's a mystery of the age. For those apps I consider essential 
I've  merely turned them off on my second device. Do keep us posted once you 
finally clear that old phone.

Robin


-Original Message- 
From: Alan Lemly

Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2016 9:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Notifications Missing on New iPhone 7 was RE: A Couple of 
Problems


Well, I have two iphones currently with the same name and Apple I'd. I went 
in on my new iPhone 7 as you suggested and turned notifications off and back 
on for every app on my phone. However, app notifications are only coming in 
on my old iPhone 6 and not at all on my new iPhone 7. Maybe you can't have 
two devices with the sane name on the sane Apple I'd and get notifications 
on both of them. If you can, I'd love to know how to do it.


After I get all my downloaded bard book info loaded on my new phone, I'll 
reset the old phone to clear it and I expect this will no longer be an 
issue.


Alan

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 6, 2016, at 7:49 PM, Esther Levegnale  
wrote:


Hi, Alan,

I had to go into the apps to reset the notifications again and now I'm 
getting all of them back.  However, I don't get them on the locked screen. 
Perhaps you have to go into some of the apps and set them up in order to 
receive notifications again.  I hope this will be successful for you. 
Good luck.


Esther L.

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Nov 6, 2016, at 5:37 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

Esther and All,

I'm getting the same issue you experienced with your iPhone 7 Plus, that 
is, I'm getting all my notifications on my old iPhone 6 but nothing on my 
new iPhone 7 which was restored from an iTunes encrypted backup. I went 
under Settings, Notifications, and drilled down into each app on the new 
phone and turned notifications off and back on again but I'm still not 
getting anything. I didn't have your problem with my music as it all came 
over when I synced with iTunes.


Can anyone offer any suggestions how I can get the notifications on my 
new iPhone 7? Do I need to turn them off on my iPhone 6? I will be 
resetting and clearing the iPhone 6 in order to sell it but that won't be 
for a few days until I get all my BARD Mobile books identified and my 
reading position noted.


Thanks in advance.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Esther Levegnale

Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2016 2:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Couple of Problems

Hi, Sieghard!

Thanks for your response.  I actually am not getting notifications at 
all, and yes, the speak notifications in VoiceOver is turned on.  All my 
apps are turned on and I've always had speak on locked screen on, even on 
my other phones.  It's quite a dilemma.  I just went in and checked all 
the settings again and they are as I've had them.  I usually get 
notifications from CNN, Headlines, a couple of my local television 
channels, and my FitBit device, among others.


Thanks again and take care!

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Oct 6, 2016, at 10:22 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Esther,

The fact you still have your old iPhone does not matter with respect to 
notifications on your new phone. If set up correctly Notifications 
should speak. Maybe you can explain exactly which notifications you want 
and  how you want them. Do you want them to show up on the lockscreen 
and/or in notification centre? Do you want Voiceover to automatically 
speak them? You may want to check in Voiceover settings for the 
"Automatically speak notifications" toggle and turn it on if it is off.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Esther Levegnale

Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 6:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A Couple of Problems

Hi, Alan!

Thanks for responding.  Concerning the native mail app, the three-finger 
placement on the unread message is great!  However, as far as my 
notifications are concerned, I do have all the apps on in the 
Notifications app and I'm still not getting them.  Maybe it's because I 
still have my iPhone 6+ and everything is still on it.  I'm not going to 
wipe it clean yet until I get my Music straightened out.


Thanks so much for your suggestions.

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!


On Oct 5, 2016, at 10:50 PM, Alan Lemly  wrote:

Esther,

Apple changed the way the native mail app works in iOS 10. Even with 
preview turned on in your settings, you'll need to touch the screen 
with 3