Re: Keyboard command to go to notification center

2019-12-01 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
if the function key is the one which is not spoken, it does not appear to 
work for me either.


-Original Message- 
From: Justin Harris

Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 22:54
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Keyboard command to go to notification center

How odd. That one isn’t working for me. Not sure if it’s a bug, or an issue 
with my keyboard. My keyboard seems to be styled after the Magic keyboard 
but it says there are shortcuts specific to iPad os, so I really wonder if 
some of these could be causing the problem with VO as well as with other 
apps. Also, strangely enough, in commands, it will let me delete, but not 
modify anything or add anything new.

Thanks.


Enviado desde mi iPad

El nov. 19, 2019, a la(s) 9:30 p. m., Anna Dresner  
escribió:


Hi Justin,
The command is Function (FN) key with VO keys and Up Arrow. Check the user 
guide, which you can get from the Apple Book store.


Best,
Anna


On Nov 19, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Justin Harris  
wrote:


Hi everyone,
I thought the keyboard command to go to either notifications or control 
center would be vo + N, either once or twice, but that’s not working. Am 
I missing something?

Thanks.

Enviado desde mi iPad

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Re: small announcement bug in settings when going back

2019-10-30 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
ah so I was not the only one seeing that. While I am not a beginner, I still 
thought it a pain.
DE WA4WGA

From: Davy Cuppens 
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 17:48
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: small announcement bug in settings when going back

Folks 

When in a menu f.e. settings accessibility voiceover speech when you do the 
scrub gesture or push the back button the previous main menu will be announced 
so back to voiceover, accessibility or settings back button.
>From ios13.2 on voiceover nolonger announces anything and stays quiet until 
>you touch somewhere on the screen.
This could come in handy to give you directions where you are and can be a pain 
for beginners I assume.
Regards
Davy 
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Re: keyboard puzzlement

2019-10-30 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
I was afraid they had stopped making that keyboard and I am contemplating a 
replacement for that reason. Suggestions? Keeping in mind, I want to stay away 
from multi-device keyboards. Now, to your question. Apparently, according to 
the list of keyboard commands listed under accessibility, the page up and down 
keys allow access to the control center and I believe the notification center. 
Someone may want to crosscheck that but I am fairly certain that there are 
keyboard commands which require use of either page up or down.
DE WA4WGA

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2019 20:17
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: keyboard puzzlement

Its too bad they stopped making that keyboard. 
I think you are right that the FN key is the lower left.
In what situation are you needing page up or down?
Are you talking about the same as a three finger swipe up or down?
I've not run into situations where I needed a page up/down key.





Richard
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  On Oct 29, 2019, at 4:25 PM, 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


   
  Several years ago, I bought an Amazon Basics Blue Tooth keyboard which I have 
managed to use across all three of the phones I have had over the years. A 5, a 
6plus, and now an 8plus. It did not occur to me that this keyboard did not have 
a page up or page down key until I found I needed those functions this morning. 
First question, How do I emulate page up and page down functions which I 
understand requires use of the FN key? Second question, Where is the FN key on 
this particular keyboard? I believe it to be bottom lower left of the keyboard 
but I am not certain as it is not spoken in keyboard help when pressed. Does it 
have to be used with a modifier key? Is it locked? If so, How do I go about 
unlocking it? Or, does that particular key not work on the IPhone? Anyone who 
knows anything about this keyboard, I’m running up a help me flag. Thanks folks.
  Ray T. Mahorney
  WA4WGA
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keyboard puzzlement

2019-10-29 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
Several years ago, I bought an Amazon Basics Blue Tooth keyboard which I have 
managed to use across all three of the phones I have had over the years. A 5, a 
6plus, and now an 8plus. It did not occur to me that this keyboard did not have 
a page up or page down key until I found I needed those functions this morning. 
First question, How do I emulate page up and page down functions which I 
understand requires use of the FN key? Second question, Where is the FN key on 
this particular keyboard? I believe it to be bottom lower left of the keyboard 
but I am not certain as it is not spoken in keyboard help when pressed. Does it 
have to be used with a modifier key? Is it locked? If so, How do I go about 
unlocking it? Or, does that particular key not work on the IPhone? Anyone who 
knows anything about this keyboard, I’m running up a help me flag. Thanks folks.
Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA

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Re: either I killed the calendar or its icon

2019-10-16 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
no the apps are still there. the only thing missing seems to be the calendar. 
It did not end up on another page.

From: Marie 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 19:33
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: either I killed the calendar or its icon

The way you create a folder is to drag an app onto another app and lift your 
finger. So if you deleted the folder without moving the apps out, you may have 
deleted the apps also. I have not done this so they might have just been moved 
to another location.
good luck.
Marie


From: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 3:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: either I killed the calendar or its icon

checked 3 and 4 and did not see it. Although, thinking about it, it may have 
ended up in the extras folder.

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 11:27
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: either I killed the calendar or its icon

Just check your other pages, it may simply have ended up on page 2 or, if you 
have other folders, it may have accidently ended up in one of them although 
that is less likely.

If it’s on page 2 simply move it back to the place on page 1 where you want it.

 

From: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 8:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: either I killed the calendar or its icon

 

While I was trying to disappear that productivity folder, The calendar appears 
to have gone with it. Either that or its icon. The calendar normally shows up 
on page one but it is no longer there. Any way to get that back?
Ray T. Mahorney
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Re: either I killed the calendar or its icon

2019-10-16 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
checked 3 and 4 and did not see it. Although, thinking about it, it may have 
ended up in the extras folder.

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 11:27
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: either I killed the calendar or its icon

Just check your other pages, it may simply have ended up on page 2 or, if you 
have other folders, it may have accidently ended up in one of them although 
that is less likely.

If it’s on page 2 simply move it back to the place on page 1 where you want it.

 

From: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 8:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: either I killed the calendar or its icon

 

While I was trying to disappear that productivity folder, The calendar appears 
to have gone with it. Either that or its icon. The calendar normally shows up 
on page one but it is no longer there. Any way to get that back?
Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA

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Re: inadvertently created a productivity folder

2019-10-16 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
I thought you could use control option m to get to the status bar? That does 
not seem to work here unless I am miss remembering?

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 11:06
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: inadvertently created a productivity folder

I don’t use the keyboard a lot except for when I am already in an email and I 
want to type a longer message, but I just tried and as long as focus is in the 
status bar, pressing the Options Key (Windows key on a PC keyboard) and the 
down arrow reliably opens control centre for me, pressing it with the up arrow 
opens Notification Centre.

Normally VO Key + M is supposed to put you in the status bar, but that doesn’t 
currently work in iOS 13. Once it is fixed VO Key + M followed by Options + 
Down Arrow should open the control centre and if you are still on iOS 12 that 
should work.

 

 

From: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone  
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: inadvertently created a productivity folder

 

understood. Well I figured out what I was doing wrong while trying to get into 
the control center. The mistake I was making was to keep one finger on a status 
bar item while swiping. That did not work I found after several hours of 
frustration.

 

From: Richard Turner 

Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 19:11

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: Re: inadvertently created a productivity folder

 

Actually, no it doesn't. 

That is different.

If you call Apple Accessibility and they want to do a screen share, they will 
send you a notification that you accept, and then double tap on agree, and now 
they can see your screen and tell you what to do.

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 





  On Oct 15, 2019, at 1:22 PM, 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

   

  ah doing a screen share requires me to get into the control center which I 
can not do reliably.

   

  From: Richard Turner 

  Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 15:56

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Subject: Re: inadvertently created a productivity folder

   

  You will have to drag files out of the folder until it disappears. 

  If there are just two apps in it, dragging one out should do the trick.

  You could call Apple Accessibility and do a screen share with them so they 
could direct you through the process if you are not sure how to do that.

   

   

   

  Richard

  "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

  -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
Wagner

   





On Oct 15, 2019, at 12:16 PM, 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
 wrote:

 

So I still have neither the dexterity nor coordination to get into the 
control center reliably and the hardware keyboard shortcut doesn’t work. While 
trying to get into the control center, I inadvertently created a productivity 
folder. How do I go about removing that?
Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA

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either I killed the calendar or its icon

2019-10-16 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
While I was trying to disappear that productivity folder, The calendar appears 
to have gone with it. Either that or its icon. The calendar normally shows up 
on page one but it is no longer there. Any way to get that back?
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Re: inadvertently created a productivity folder

2019-10-16 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
8 plus running the most IOS 13.3 I believe. I ended up using both hands to get 
into the control center. The first mistake I made was to hold down a status bar 
item while swiping up with the three fingers on the right hand. After several 
attempts at this I got no where. It was suggested that I touch the status bar 
item and swipe at the same time which required one finger on one hand and the 
other fingers of the other hand but that worked. Unfortunately, at this point, 
using a hardware keyboard to get to the control center is a non starter.

From: Robert Wright 
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019 06:00
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: inadvertently created a productivity folder

Ray, can you tell me which phone you have and which iOS you are running. Also, 
can you give me step by step what you did to open the control center?

 

**If we can't look at ourselves, and ask, why?  then where does the 
learning start?*** 

 

From: Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 5:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: inadvertently created a productivity folder

 

Actually, no it doesn't. 

That is different.

If you call Apple Accessibility and they want to do a screen share, they will 
send you a notification that you accept, and then double tap on agree, and now 
they can see your screen and tell you what to do.

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard

"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

-- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane Wagner

 





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 wrote:

   

  ah doing a screen share requires me to get into the control center which I 
can not do reliably.

   

  From: Richard Turner 

  Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 15:56

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Subject: Re: inadvertently created a productivity folder

   

  You will have to drag files out of the folder until it disappears. 

  If there are just two apps in it, dragging one out should do the trick.

  You could call Apple Accessibility and do a screen share with them so they 
could direct you through the process if you are not sure how to do that.

   

   

   

  Richard

  "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 

  -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
Wagner

   





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So I still have neither the dexterity nor coordination to get into the 
control center reliably and the hardware keyboard shortcut doesn’t work. While 
trying to get into the control center, I inadvertently created a productivity 
folder. How do I go about removing that?
Ray T. Mahorney
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Re: inadvertently created a productivity folder

2019-10-15 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
understood. Well I figured out what I was doing wrong while trying to get into 
the control center. The mistake I was making was to keep one finger on a status 
bar item while swiping. That did not work I found after several hours of 
frustration.

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 19:11
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: inadvertently created a productivity folder

Actually, no it doesn't. 
That is different.
If you call Apple Accessibility and they want to do a screen share, they will 
send you a notification that you accept, and then double tap on agree, and now 
they can see your screen and tell you what to do.
HTH,





Richard
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  On Oct 15, 2019, at 1:22 PM, 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
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  ah doing a screen share requires me to get into the control center which I 
can not do reliably.

  From: Richard Turner 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 15:56
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: inadvertently created a productivity folder

  You will have to drag files out of the folder until it disappears. 
  If there are just two apps in it, dragging one out should do the trick.
  You could call Apple Accessibility and do a screen share with them so they 
could direct you through the process if you are not sure how to do that.





  Richard
  "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." 
  -- from The Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe, by Jane 
Wagner



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trying to get into the control center, I inadvertently created a productivity 
folder. How do I go about removing that?
Ray T. Mahorney
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Re: inadvertently created a productivity folder

2019-10-15 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
ah doing a screen share requires me to get into the control center which I can 
not do reliably.

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 15:56
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: inadvertently created a productivity folder

You will have to drag files out of the folder until it disappears. 
If there are just two apps in it, dragging one out should do the trick.
You could call Apple Accessibility and do a screen share with them so they 
could direct you through the process if you are not sure how to do that.





Richard
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folder. How do I go about removing that?
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Re: inadvertently created a productivity folder

2019-10-15 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
I managed to make the productivity folder go away but in the process I killed 
my calendar icon.

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 15:56
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: inadvertently created a productivity folder

You will have to drag files out of the folder until it disappears. 
If there are just two apps in it, dragging one out should do the trick.
You could call Apple Accessibility and do a screen share with them so they 
could direct you through the process if you are not sure how to do that.





Richard
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inadvertently created a productivity folder

2019-10-15 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
So I still have neither the dexterity nor coordination to get into the control 
center reliably and the hardware keyboard shortcut doesn’t work. While trying 
to get into the control center, I inadvertently created a productivity folder. 
How do I go about removing that?
Ray T. Mahorney
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Re: odd screen behavior within an app

2019-10-14 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
they have actually and so far from the developer, crickets.

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 09:20
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: odd screen behavior within an app

My first step would be to contact the developer.

It sounds like maybe they need to update for iOS 13.

 

HTH,

 

 

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From: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone  
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 6:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: odd screen behavior within an app

 

As a point of reference, this is occurring on an updated 8 plus with a bit over 
240 gig of storage and only one app in focus and active at a time. Now, if any 
of you have played with the Vorail app, you know that driving that app around 
involves allot of up and down swiping. However, very recently, the app does not 
respond to up and down swipes. The app will play audio from the user defined 
landing point such as the users inbox but it will go no further meaning you can 
not access the rest of the app and the only option is to close the app. More on 
that in a moment. As far as I am aware, I made no obvious changes to the Vorail 
settings. Here’s where it got strange. I’d heard a bit of talk about an app 
called Dabel. I decided to put it on the phone and kick the tires a bit and 
that’s when Vorail went wonky. Just to be clear, I do not believe the 2 are 
connected because when I removed Dabel, the problem with Vorail continued. A 
number of removal and reinstall attempts did not clear up the Vorail screen 
issue and closing the Vorail app through the app switcher has often been a bit 
hit and miss. So much so that on a number of occasions, I’ve had to power off 
the phone and restart it to be able to close Vorail from within the app 
switcher. Has anyone seen this? What would cause this? Might there be a fix? 
Thanks folks.


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odd screen behavior within an app

2019-10-14 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
As a point of reference, this is occurring on an updated 8 plus with a bit over 
240 gig of storage and only one app in focus and active at a time. Now, if any 
of you have played with the Vorail app, you know that driving that app around 
involves allot of up and down swiping. However, very recently, the app does not 
respond to up and down swipes. The app will play audio from the user defined 
landing point such as the users inbox but it will go no further meaning you can 
not access the rest of the app and the only option is to close the app. More on 
that in a moment. As far as I am aware, I made no obvious changes to the Vorail 
settings. Here’s where it got strange. I’d heard a bit of talk about an app 
called Dabel. I decided to put it on the phone and kick the tires a bit and 
that’s when Vorail went wonky. Just to be clear, I do not believe the 2 are 
connected because when I removed Dabel, the problem with Vorail continued. A 
number of removal and reinstall attempts did not clear up the Vorail screen 
issue and closing the Vorail app through the app switcher has often been a bit 
hit and miss. So much so that on a number of occasions, I’ve had to power off 
the phone and restart it to be able to close Vorail from within the app 
switcher. Has anyone seen this? What would cause this? Might there be a fix? 
Thanks folks.

Ray T. Mahorney
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whatsapp does not appear to fully respect do not disturb

2019-10-10 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
Where I see this is with whatsapp video calls. My phone is in do not disturb 
much of the time and whatsapp audio calls do not break through. However, video 
calls get past the do not disturb function. Anyone else seen this behavior?
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Re: keyboards?

2019-10-10 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
I could have used your help with that keyboard about a week ago. I wasn't 
sure what was what with it so I sent it back. For example, I could not work 
out how to open apps with the thing. I assumed after the fact that to open 
the apps, it was up and down at the same time. I could get into the app 
switcher but could not close an open app. There was of course no book with 
the thing so I am not sure where I was going wrong with that keyboard. I 
liked the concept though.


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 12:08
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Subject: RE: keyboards?

If you get Apple's USB to Lightning camera cable you can plug any USB 
keyboard into an iPhone.
Of course I find pairing a Bluetooth keyboard to an iPhone is very easy and 
it's very robust, e.g. I have had my Logitech K780 paired to my iPhone 8 
from just after I got my iPhone a year ago and any time I press FN + F2 
which switches it from my PC to my iPhone it's just there, it never seems to 
unpair or fail.



-Original Message-
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: keyboards?

Are there hardware keyboards that plug into the same socket as the charging 
lead, forgot what that is called now.  But an hw keyboard on a lead I can 
plug into any of the devices without all this BT pairing mode business.


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Re: alternate ways to get to the control center

2019-10-10 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
I actually tried that before enabling assistive touch but all I was able to do 
was get it to scroll the screen maybe, I have the wrong idea of a swipe.

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 01:27
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Subject: RE: alternate ways to get to the control center

Touch something in the status bar like the time, then put 3 fingers on the 
screen near the bottom and swipe up

 

 

From: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone  
Sent: Wednesday, October 9, 2019 7:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: alternate ways to get to the control center

 

Other than swiping from the bottom of the screen on an 8 plus, is there another 
way to do that? I either do not have the dexterity or coordination to make that 
swipe gesture. Control option m also doesn’t seem to get me there. in that 
case, I am pressing and holding control+option then pressing the letter m with 
no result.
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Re: alternate ways to get to the control center

2019-10-10 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
interesting you say that. It occurred to me to try that after I sent my last 
reply. It worked. Also a bit more on the keyboard issue. Originally, I thought 
I could only delete messages to which I had responded by closing and reopening 
the messages app. Seems that’s not the case. While the screen does jump away 
from the delete and cancel buttons, you can get back to those buttons by using 
the right arrow key. I think I may be sending apple another screenshot.

From: Feliciano Godoy 
Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 01:04
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Subject: Re: alternate ways to get to the control center

Hi, 
Enable assistive  touch. It’s a Icón that will appear on screen. Explore by 
dragging to locate once enabled. This feature will help you. Go to settings, 
accessibility, touch, assitive touch and enable then locate icon and double tap.



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  On Oct 9, 2019, at 9:52 PM, 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
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  one finger I can manage. 3 fingers are right out as I’m not even able to get 
2 to move in a coordinated way.

  From: Richard Turner 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 23:30
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
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   1 finger touch in Status Bar followed by a 3 finger flick up
   




   




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On Oct 9, 2019, at 7:59 PM, 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
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Other than swiping from the bottom of the screen on an 8 plus, is there 
another way to do that? I either do not have the dexterity or coordination to 
make that swipe gesture. Control option m also doesn’t seem to get me there. in 
that case, I am pressing and holding control+option then pressing the letter m 
with no result.
Ray T. Mahorney
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Re: keyboards?

2019-10-10 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone

I'm not aware of any but that may come to the upgraded I Pad.

-Original Message- 
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Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2019 04:02
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Subject: keyboards?

Are there hardware keyboards that plug into the same socket as the charging 
lead, forgot what that is called now.  But an hw
keyboard on a lead I can plug into any of the devices without all this BT 
pairing mode business.


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Re: alternate ways to get to the control center

2019-10-09 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
one finger I can manage. 3 fingers are right out as I’m not even able to get 2 
to move in a coordinated way.

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2019 23:30
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: alternate ways to get to the control center

 1 finger touch in Status Bar followed by a 3 finger flick up
 




 




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  On Oct 9, 2019, at 7:59 PM, 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
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  Other than swiping from the bottom of the screen on an 8 plus, is there 
another way to do that? I either do not have the dexterity or coordination to 
make that swipe gesture. Control option m also doesn’t seem to get me there. in 
that case, I am pressing and holding control+option then pressing the letter m 
with no result.
  Ray T. Mahorney
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alternate ways to get to the control center

2019-10-09 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
Other than swiping from the bottom of the screen on an 8 plus, is there another 
way to do that? I either do not have the dexterity or coordination to make that 
swipe gesture. Control option m also doesn’t seem to get me there. in that 
case, I am pressing and holding control+option then pressing the letter m with 
no result.
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issues with hardware keyboards

2019-10-09 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
After upgrading to IOS13, I noticed a number of issues with hardware keyboards. 
Before we go any further, I was able to replicate the issues with 2 hardware 
keyboards. The Amazon basics keyboard and the Logitech K87. First, I noticed 
the absents of the quick navigation status announcements in edit fields for 
apps such as the messages app. I also noticed that in empty text fields, 
voiceover now no longer says send dimmed. Instead it just says send. I’ve also 
noticed other behaviors. For example, when using the hardware keyboard to 
delete messages, quick navigation appears to automatically turn off and the 
voice prompt asking are you sure you want to delete this conversation either is 
truncated or the voiceover volume drops while the prompt is being spoken. I 
also noted that after I have responded to a message and tried to delete it with 
the hardware keyboard, the screen appears to jump away from that message. The 
only options I have for deleting a message to which I have responded are to 
close and reopen the messages app and then using the hardware keyboard, delete 
the message. Or, using the onscreen keyboard to delete the message. Is there a 
setting I need to change or is that something with IOS13? Has anyone else seen 
this? Thanks folks.

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Re: voice memos questions

2019-08-09 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
thank you sir. That’s the way I suspected it would work.

From: Gordon 
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Subject: Re: voice memos questions

Not sure about time limits, but no: the record wont pick up where you left off 
if you hit the record button again. The only way to resume where you left off 
is to edit the recording and use the slider bar to go to the end of the 
recording. Then you can hit edit and resume will be one of your choices. 


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  In the native voice memos app, is there a recording time limit? If so, what 
is that limit? Also, when recording is stopped, does recording resume at that 
end point or does the recording start from ground zero? In this case, the 
device used is an 8 plus with just under 256 gig. Thanks folks.
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voice memos questions

2019-08-09 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
In the native voice memos app, is there a recording time limit? If so, what is 
that limit? Also, when recording is stopped, does recording resume at that end 
point or does the recording start from ground zero? In this case, the device 
used is an 8 plus with just under 256 gig. Thanks folks.
Ray T. Mahorney
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Re: Dick Tatian problem

2019-08-02 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
just don't ask the device for 30 thousand pounds of bananas. See the late 
harry Chapin for the reference.


-Original Message- 
From: Jim Fettgather

Sent: Friday, August 02, 2019 14:07
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dick Tatian problem

Perhaps instead of trying to improve Siri's voice in IOS 13, maybe the
dictation could be fixed?
It is not horrible, but dictation is far more accurate on other platforms.

On 8/2/19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
There are lots of dictation tips and tricks, but some of them never work 
for

me. For example, if I dicate to SIRI something like this:

Buy 6 bananas SIRI always or usually writes the number six as a word and 
not

the number 6.
I read you should say the word "numeral" in front of a number if you want
this number to be written as a number. I tried this and got "Buy numeral 
six

bananas".

And I can't believe you still can't say "spell this" or another trigger 
word

and then get SIRI to spell out a word which I know for sure it will get
wrong otherwise. I mean, it's been 8 years since SIRI and dictation were
introduced, come on Apple.



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Andy

Baracco
Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2019 12:23 PM
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Subject: Re: Dick Tatian problem

www.applevis.com has a good podcast concerning dictation tips and tricks.

Andy

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Subject: Dick Tatian problem




Sent from my iPhone hello everyone I am having a problem using the 
dictation


on the iPhone. I’m using an iPhone 6. When I try to give out any email
address it just is not coming out the way it supposed to you’ll get a 
letter


off when I try and give it even after I tried spelling my email address 
and


I’m wondering if anyone else is having this problem.
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Re: Dick Tatian problem

2019-08-01 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
I’d think passwords would be the last thing you’d want to dictate.
DE WA4WGA


From: Kathy Brandt 
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2019 14:19
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Dick Tatian problem

I never even thought to try to dictate an email address, let aloan passwords, 
because generally you have no way to check whether a password is accurate, plus 
with email so much could be messed up that you would just have to go back and 
correct it anyway, meaning you are better off just using the virtual keyboard, 
which it is good to have some facility with anyway because there are some 
situations where dictating is impractical, if not impossible.

On Aug 1, 2019, at 12:26 PM, J.Cyr  wrote:


That's odd since I have frequently spelt words in dictation and they have come 
out correctly.  It doesn't appear to recognize things like the at symbol so it 
is of limited value in email and/or website addresses but otherwise has handled 
spelling, full words and punctuation fairly well in my (admittedly somewhat 
limited) experience.  I was introduced to dictation originally precisely 
because I complained that I had tried to spell something to Siri and had not 
been understood!
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Re: A cool app for watching TV news everywhere

2019-07-21 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone

I may have missed mention of whether this is free or paid.

-Original Message- 
From: Gordon

Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2019 18:16
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: A cool app for watching tv news everywhere

So we have tunein and iheart for radio stations, but now we have newson
which is a directory for TV news that's available to watch on your
phone. It will use your location to show you TV stations closest to you.
If you keep going through the list it will move further away from where
you are. There's also a tab at the bottom of the screen for all
channels. There you can go by state and market. This will be a nice
resource when there's situations like storms and earth quakes in
different places that you want to watch the live coverage for.

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Re: EFR Codec

2018-11-02 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
you have to hit the call button and as nearly as I can tell, it’s supposed to 
improve the transmit audio quality.

From: Casey 
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2018 12:09
To: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: EFR Codec

hi is this for your cell phone?

And after you hit that code do you hit send or just dial the code that you gave 
and what does this do if you are able to use it?





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  Are any of you on AT able to enable the Enhanced Full Rate Codec? *3370# 
Followed by the call button? Mainly just curious.
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EFR Codec

2018-11-02 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
Are any of you on AT able to enable the Enhanced Full Rate Codec? *3370# 
Followed by the call button? Mainly just curious.
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Re: Other Than Recent Call VoiceOver Bug, Is There Any Reason Not to Update to iOS 12.1?

2018-11-01 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
this recent call bug, which I am also seeing, has prompted me to wonder if IOS 
releases are device aware? If not, can they be made device aware?

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2018 15:52
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Other Than Recent Call VoiceOver Bug, Is There Any Reason Not to 
Update to iOS 12.1?

It says "user underscore label underscore primary" after the contact name or 
number in the recent calls list. 
Richard





(Sent from the iPod Touch 6)

On Nov 1, 2018, at 12:43 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:


  Could someone kindly remind me what this recent calls bug is? I may
  have missed it the first time, and haven't seen other discussion on it
  from other sources.

  Thanks,
  Wayne

  On 11/1/18, Richard Turner  wrote:



No other reason to not update, and the recent calls bug is just an

annoyance, no functionality issues.

Richard







"It is a great thing to start life with a small number of really good books

which are your very own." __  Sir Arthur Conan Doyle



  On Nov 1, 2018, at 11:18 AM, Anthony Vece  wrote:



  Hi Mark;

  I updated and, the phone is running fine.

  It’s purring like a kitten.

  Good Luck

  Anthony



  Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!



On Nov 1, 2018, at 2:00 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:



Hello Everyone,



Other than the "Recent Calls" VoiceOver bug, in the Phone app,, is there

any

reason Not to update to iOS 12.1?  Any show-stoppers?



If not, then I'll update later this evening.



Thank you,



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Re: Just press record Siri shortcut

2018-09-24 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
is just press record not native? I don’t recall seeing it at any time.

From: Richard Turner 
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Subject: Re: Just press record Siri shortcut

Mary, Record something in Just Press Record. Then check Siri settings and you 
should find a shortcut.
HTH,
Richard


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place but to leave unsaid the wrong thing at the tempting moment." - Dorothy 
Nevill





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  I read somewhere that just press record is now working with Siri shortcuts. I 
went into the Siri settings, and I didn’t see any shortcuts for that app. I see 
shortcuts for a Overcast, Mail, Weather, and Safari. But nothing for just press 
record. What am I missing?
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an equivalent program

2018-09-21 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
Is there an equivalent to Total Recorder which will run on an IPad?
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Re: autofilling authentication codes

2018-09-18 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
very good. You confirmed allot of what I thought about the way that operated. 
Although I haven’t seen it yet, I now know what to expect.

From: Mary Otten 
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 21:55
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Subject: Re: autofilling authentication codes

Yes. It was the T-Mobile Tuesday app. I was in there, and as they do 
periodically, they wanted to send me a code to verify that I was who I said I 
was or somesuch nonsense. I answered my phone number. They sent a text message. 
And instead of me having to hunt for the other box and remember the code, I was 
just taken to the next screen which would have come up under iOS 11, after I 
entered the code. It was very smooth.
Mary



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On Sep 18, 2018, at 6:52 PM, 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
 wrote:


  presumably you had to have the app open you needed the code for?

  From: Mary Otten 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 21:47
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: autofilling authentication codes

  Hi Ray,
  I don’t think you have to find it. I had an identification code I should say 
and authentication code, come to me yesterday and it just filled in. And I was 
taken to the screen that I should be on after the thing got approved. Very 
smooth very cool.
  Mary



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I thought I saw something on this reflector mentioning that IOS12 had that 
functionality. Wher do I find that?
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Re: autofilling authentication codes

2018-09-18 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
presumably you had to have the app open you needed the code for?

From: Mary Otten 
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 21:47
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Subject: Re: autofilling authentication codes

Hi Ray,
I don’t think you have to find it. I had an identification code I should say 
and authentication code, come to me yesterday and it just filled in. And I was 
taken to the screen that I should be on after the thing got approved. Very 
smooth very cool.
Mary



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autofilling authentication codes

2018-09-18 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
I thought I saw something on this reflector mentioning that IOS12 had that 
functionality. Wher do I find that?
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Re: hey siri appears to be deaf?

2018-09-18 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone

as happens I had to cycle the phone to get that to function.

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Subject: RE: hey siri appears to be deaf?

I just say Hay Siri and start telling her or asking what I want, and she 
works.


Best regards,

Carolyn


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Subject: hey siri appears to be deaf?

I went through the setup process and Siri reports it recognizes me However, 
when I say the wake word, it does not respond. 8 plus, powered, connected to 
wi-fi, what did I miss? Am I correct in thinking I had to cycle the phone?

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hey siri appears to be deaf?

2018-09-18 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
I went through the setup process and Siri reports it recognizes me However, 
when I say the wake word, it does not respond. 8 plus, powered, connected to 
wi-fi, what did I miss? Am I correct in thinking I had to cycle the phone?
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Re: Carrier Settings Update message

2018-09-18 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
concur. Take them when prompted.
Ray T. Mahorney
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From: Gordon 
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 14:56
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Carrier Settings Update message

Get them. It is important between your phone and the network.




On 9/18/2018 1:53 PM, Yates, Danney wrote:

  I use Verizon and I’m seeing a  message on I Phone 5-SE entitled- Carrier 
Settings Update followed by the message telling me 

  New settings are available, would you like to  update them  now?  The two 
choices for response are “not  now” or “update”

  Anyone else get these?  Wondering if they are legit.

  Danney

   

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Re: iOS Update Advice needed

2018-09-18 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
admittedly, I am using an 8 plus here but in the past I have always done OTA 
updates without problems.

Ray T. Mahorney
DE WA4WGA


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From: M. Taylor

Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 14:16
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iOS Update Advice needed

Hello Lisa,

I'm not exactly certain if I understand every aspect of your question but my 
general sense is that you should probably do an over-the-air update.  To me, 
generally speaking, it seems to be the least disruptive method.


As to the remainder of your question, unless you have a specific reason to 
use iTunes for business, I would recommend the latest standard version of 
iTunes for your Windows 10 PC.  Again, this is generally speaking.


Should you decide, however, to install iTunes for business on your Windows 
10 PC, then you will first need to uninstall any previous version of iTunes 
that has a version number greater than 12.6.5.3.


If you are uncertain or are not versed in the mechanics of the iTunes 
storage file system, then I highly recommend against installing iTunes for 
business unless you are certain that no other version of iTunes has already 
been installed on your Windows 10 PC.


Regardless of your choice, be certain to make an iCloud backup of your iOS 
10.x phone before you begin any update process.


Good Luck,

Mark

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Of Lisa Belville

Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 9:57 AM
To: V I Phone
Subject: iOS Update Advice needed

Hi, all.


I am using windows 10 with the latest version of NVDA.  I currently have an 
iPhone SE that is still running iOS 10.3.  I haven't updated it because in 
the past year I've had to update to a new PC with Windows 10, and I used my 
phone as my primary technology for several months before that, so was afraid 
to do an over the air update to iOS 11.  Now, though, I want to move up to 
iOS 12 if possible.



My concern has to do with whether or not to use iTunes or over the air to do 
the update from two iOS versions behind.  Yes, all should go well, but I 
don't want to wind up with a nice rose gold SE brick phone.  .



I used iTunes on my old XP system to update my iPhone 5, and when they 
updated to a new machine, they copied everything over to the new hard drive. 
I have the old iTunes library, but not the iTunes program itself, at least I 
don't find it doing a search.



I have been following the discussion about iTunes accessibility, so I 
downloaded iTunes for Business in the hope it would be easier than previous 
versions of iTunes I've tried.



Now I'm unsure if I should just install the business version or if I need to 
do something with the residual iTunes that was copied from the older system.



I'm also unsure if I just connect the phone to the new PC and the newly 
installed iTunes will take it from there.  I don't remember how I dealt with 
this when I first got the iPhone and installed iTunes several years ago.



Generally I put up with the inaccessable aspects of using iTunes because I 
could get a running progress bar regarding update status, but now I'm 
thinking I might deal with an hour or so of uncertainty and do the over air 
update.  We don't have an Apple store here, just a Verizon store where I had 
the phone set up originally, and I don't have a pair of working eyeballs 
around to handle reading a phone screen..



Any advice or ideas would be appreciated.


Lisa


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Re: NOAA weather radio app

2018-04-13 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
one of the functions of location tracking should be that the station closest to 
you would be higher on the list. For example, I am in close proximity to CAK so 
the first station I should see is KDO94 If I were closer to CLE, I should see 
that station first.

From: Bill Outman 
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 05:10
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: NOAA weather radio app

I thought I saw something about location tracking in the app someplace, I’m not 
sure.  It never asked me when I installed it to track my location.  Not sure 
what good it would do since the station selection is good, at least one station 
in every state and D. C. and Puerto plus some Canadian provinces, but isn’t 
exhaustive.  If it did track location you might be able to set up automatic 
alerts of warnings, and there are other ways of getting those.  

 

Hope this info is of some value.  

 

Bill Outman 

 

 

 

From: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 2:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NOAA weather radio app

 

I’m surprised that does not appear to use location tracking.

 

From: Bill Outman 

Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 01:58

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: NOAA weather radio app

 

I am running this app with an iPhone 5S with iOS 10; that is all about to be 
upgraded at some point soon.  So I can’t speak to if it even works in version 
11.  

 

Most of the buttons and tabs seem to speak.  I usually use the radio tab and 
swipe over to the list of states and provinces, which will list the available 
stations.  I can enter a state, such as Florida, where I happen to live, and go 
through the list of stations and double tap the button for the staion I want, 
for example Daytona Beach, which is my local station.  It doesn’t have every 
station in the system, but it does  have quite a selection.  Sometimes you have 
to be aware of where the station might be located, for example, if you were 
looking for Cincinnati, you would not find it in Ohio since the station is over 
the river in Covington, Kentucky, so it is in that list.  I discovered that 
when I was chedcking weather for the Cubs vs. Reds baseball series last week.  

 

When you open a station it should automatically play, and then you can swipe 
right over to pause to stop the broadcast when you are done, which is 
announced.  

 

I had originally found this app through ViA, which was an accessible app guide 
app from the Braill Institute of Los Angeles which I used to have on my phone.  
I took ViA off my phone as it was taking up a small amount of space, I wasn’t 
really using it any more and I was unsure it it would survive transitioning to 
iOS 11.  So it seems to be a handy app to have around; I hope it survives the 
upgrade.  

 

Bill Outman 

 

 

 

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Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 1:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: NOAA weather radio app

 

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Re: NOAA weather radio app

2018-04-13 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
I’m surprised that does not appear to use location tracking.

From: Bill Outman 
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 01:58
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Subject: RE: NOAA weather radio app

I am running this app with an iPhone 5S with iOS 10; that is all about to be 
upgraded at some point soon.  So I can’t speak to if it even works in version 
11.  

 

Most of the buttons and tabs seem to speak.  I usually use the radio tab and 
swipe over to the list of states and provinces, which will list the available 
stations.  I can enter a state, such as Florida, where I happen to live, and go 
through the list of stations and double tap the button for the staion I want, 
for example Daytona Beach, which is my local station.  It doesn’t have every 
station in the system, but it does  have quite a selection.  Sometimes you have 
to be aware of where the station might be located, for example, if you were 
looking for Cincinnati, you would not find it in Ohio since the station is over 
the river in Covington, Kentucky, so it is in that list.  I discovered that 
when I was chedcking weather for the Cubs vs. Reds baseball series last week.  

 

When you open a station it should automatically play, and then you can swipe 
right over to pause to stop the broadcast when you are done, which is 
announced.  

 

I had originally found this app through ViA, which was an accessible app guide 
app from the Braill Institute of Los Angeles which I used to have on my phone.  
I took ViA off my phone as it was taking up a small amount of space, I wasn’t 
really using it any more and I was unsure it it would survive transitioning to 
iOS 11.  So it seems to be a handy app to have around; I hope it survives the 
upgrade.  

 

Bill Outman 

 

 

 

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NOAA weather radio app

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Re: messaging junk

2018-04-05 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone

good enough sir, glad to know I wasn't missing something.

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Subject: RE: messaging junk

Hello Ray,

The answer to your question is, no, not at this time, at least.

Mark

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along a similar line of inquiry is there a way to disable that delete 
confirmation dialog? That kind of thing is something that needs to be user 
definable.


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Is there a way to hide all of that crap that shows after the record button 
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Re: messaging junk

2018-04-03 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
along a similar line of inquiry is there a way to disable that delete 
confirmation dialog? That kind of thing is something that needs to be user 
definable.

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Is there a way to hide all of that crap that shows after the record button in 
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Re: Apple Podcasts

2018-03-06 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
so I wasn’t the only one who found it more cluttered than it needed to be. Good 
to know.

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 13:24
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Subject: RE: Apple Podcasts

For whatever it’s worth, I have been using it for at least a year or more 
exclusively, but finally had enough since I find it cluttered and not very 
intuitive to use. Yes, if you use it you can tell SIRI to skip by a certain 
number of seconds or minutes or rewind as well, but I just went back to 
Downcast. 

 

From: the.big.apple@icloud.com  
Sent: Monday, March 5, 2018 6:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups. com 
Subject: Apple Podcasts

 

Hi all, 

I am wanting to try Apple Podcasts again. Can someone give me any pointers on 
how to use it with the new design? 

Thanks in advance. 

 

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Re: Downcast Question

2018-03-06 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
very good that was the only thing holding me back from giving that one a look.

From: Steve Matzura 
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2018 10:33
To: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
Subject: Re: Downcast Question

Yes. On the subscribe screen you will find fields for username and password if 
required.




On 3/6/2018 2:23 AM, 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone wrote:

  one question re: downcast. Can it handle pasword protected feeds? E.G paid 
content?

  From: Carla 
  Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 00:03
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: RE: Downcast Question

  I'm sure I do.

   

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  Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2018 8:28 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Downcast Question

   

  Ok. Go to the search tab. Go to the search field and type in the podcast 
you’re looking for. Then find the search result. There should be a subscribe 
button. Do you have the latest version of Downcast?

   

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  On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 11:17 PM -0500, "Carla" <cd5...@comcast.net> wrote:

I finally got the one podcast to work but not sure how I got there.  I have 
a few more to get back but I would still like to know exactly how to do it.

 

From: the.big.apple@icloud.com <the.big.apple@icloud.com> 
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2018 7:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Downcast Question

 

Hi, 

Have you tried double tapping on the subscribe button when you tried to 
subscribe? 

 

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On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 8:53 PM -0500, "Carla" <cd5...@comcast.net> wrote:

  I haven't used Downcast since upgrading to the iPhone 7.  Today I went 
there and it says I am not subscribed to any podcasts.  When I searched for the 
podcast I wanted I couldn't figure out where to subscribe and I double tapped 
add and that still didn't work.  Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks.

   

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Re: Downcast Question

2018-03-05 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
one question re: downcast. Can it handle pasword protected feeds? E.G paid 
content?

From: Carla 
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 00:03
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Downcast Question

I'm sure I do.

 

From: the.big.apple@icloud.com  
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2018 8:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Downcast Question

 

Ok. Go to the search tab. Go to the search field and type in the podcast you’re 
looking for. Then find the search result. There should be a subscribe button. 
Do you have the latest version of Downcast?

 

Maria Reyes 

 

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  I finally got the one podcast to work but not sure how I got there.  I have a 
few more to get back but I would still like to know exactly how to do it.

   

  From: the.big.apple@icloud.com  
  Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2018 7:57 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com; viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Downcast Question

   

  Hi, 

  Have you tried double tapping on the subscribe button when you tried to 
subscribe? 

   

  Maria Reyes 

   

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  apple411+subscr...@groups.io






  On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 8:53 PM -0500, "Carla"  wrote:

I haven't used Downcast since upgrading to the iPhone 7.  Today I went 
there and it says I am not subscribed to any podcasts.  When I searched for the 
podcast I wanted I couldn't figure out where to subscribe and I double tapped 
add and that still didn't work.  Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks.

 

Carla

 

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Re: Apple Podcasts

2018-03-05 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
In my experience, you delete them from the library. Someone may correct me.

From: Lynn White 
Sent: Monday, March 05, 2018 16:30
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Apple Podcasts

How do u unsubscribe from podcasts using this app.yo


Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 4, 2018, at 10:49 PM, the.big.apple@icloud.com wrote:


  Hi all, 
  I am thinking of trying out Apple Podcasts again. Can anyone give me some 
pointers to using the new design with VO? 
  Thanks in advance.

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Re: Has Anyone Updated to iOS 11.2.6 on a Non-iPhone 10 Device?

2018-02-23 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone

8 plus with 11.2.6 VO reads the battery level.

-Original Message- 
From: M. Taylor

Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 13:08
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Subject: Has Anyone Updated to iOS 11.2.6 on a Non-iPhone 10 Device?

Hello Everyone,

I have heard some reports that updating to iOS 11.2.6 removes the battery
indicator for some users.  I do not know if this issue refers to merely the
visual indicator or not.

It may be that, regardless of the visual icon, VoiceOver may continue to
read the battery level indicator.

So, if you have a non-iPhone 10, and you have already updated to iOS 11.2.6,
please let us know your experience as I do not plan to update until I can
confirm that this battery bug does not apply to VoiceOver users.

Please be sure to include which iPhone you are using.

Thank you,

Mark

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deleting a pop account.

2018-02-08 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
What am I missing? I have tried to delete the account through accounts and 
passwords as well as mail. When I double tap the account, I do not see a delete 
button. I can add accounts all day long but I can’t work out how to remove an 
account. This is on an 8 plus running the most recent build of IOS 11.2. Thanks 
folks.
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Re: small bug in whatsapp update

2018-01-10 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
curious have not seen that.

From: Davy Cuppens 
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 14:55
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: small bug in whatsapp update

HI folks 

This is no more than an annoyance. When starting to listen to an audio message 
in whatsapp: before the message begins, voiceover comes in between and says: 
pfft. 
Regards 
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Re: voiceover

2018-01-05 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
I have not seen that here and this prompts me to ask which apps are running at 
the time this happens?

From: Janet Bell 
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2018 08:02
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: voiceover

has anybody had a problem with voiceover just going off without warning.  this 
has happened to me a few times in the last 24 hours.  I have managed to switch 
the phone off and back on again and it is ok but is there anything else I can 
do to stop this happening.  Janet
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Re: new gesture in WhatsApp messenger

2017-11-30 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
double tap and hold and while holding, slide your finger up about an inch. 
Release and the record should remain locked.


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From: Rebecca Ilniski

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Subject: new gesture in WhatsApp messenger

Hi all. Has anyone mastered the new gesture where you are supposed to be 
able to slide your finger up a little and it locks the message so you can 
record longer messages. I can’t seem to master it. If someone could describe 
it that would be cool. Thanks.


Rebecca and Zeb
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Re: recommendations for BT earpieces

2017-11-24 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
let me clarify, I said earpiece not headset.

From: Lielle Ben Simon‫ליאל בן סימון‬‎ 
Sent: Friday, November 24, 2017 02:15
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Subject: Re: recommendations for BT earpieces



from  my iphoneHi! I use in AirPods from apple. It's very good products.

‫ב-24 בנוב׳ 2017, בשעה 9:10, ‏‏'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone 
‏<viphone@googlegroups.com> כתב/ה:‬


  The plantronics single earpiece is giving up the ghost on the transmit side. 
The logitec headset transmits microphone audio more consistently. So what I am 
looking for is a replacement earpiece.  Brandnames and costs please?
  Ray T. Mahorney
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recommendations for BT earpieces

2017-11-23 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
The plantronics single earpiece is giving up the ghost on the transmit side. 
The logitec headset transmits microphone audio more consistently. So what I am 
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demo apple watch did not come up talking

2017-11-04 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
While I was in the local store, I decided to have a play with a watch with 
cellular capabilities. I thought tripple clicking the digital crown would make 
the speech come up. This did not happen and the member of staff was unfamiliar 
with VO and how to get it to work. What might she or I have missed? Can you in 
fact not make the watch talk just out of the box?
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Re: gestures for iPhone X

2017-11-02 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
as I understand it the major differences are the face recognition and the type 
of screen.  The guts are apparently the same in both.

From: Pablo Morales 
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2017 18:35
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: gestures for iPhone X

Wow,

I am impressed with the way how apple managed the face recognition for people 
with visual impairements. 

Now, the face recognition is the unique difference between iPhone 8x and iPhone 
X?

Is no there any better processor?

Thanks

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 8:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: gestures for iPhone X

 

Here’s my blog post that covers this.

http://mosen.org/face-id-accessibility-apple-offers-some-answers/

 

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, audiobooks and training

http://www.mosen.org

 

From: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 1:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: gestures for iPhone X

 

Jonathan, One question I don’t think I’ve heard a clear answer to, How would a 
totally blind user interact with the face ID with a minimum of aggrovation?

 

From: Jonathan Mosen 

Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 19:11

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: gestures for iPhone X

 

Hi Sieghard and all, yes, my iPhone X is arriving tomorrow. Because of the time 
difference, it means I’ll have it before they arrive in the US. I’ll be 
unboxing it, setting up face ID, playing with new gestures, making a purchase 
and even doing a recording from the phone on The Blind Side Podcast 61. When 
it’s published depends a bit on when the courier delivers, but I expect it to 
be late Thursday night US Eastern time. So even if you’re getting a phone on 
launch day, if you’re in the US you should be able to hear the podcast first.

 

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, audiobooks and training

http://www.mosen.org

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 5:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: gesters for iPhone X

 

Pablo,

 

You should definitely buy the iPhone X, it is the ultimate smartphone and blows 
every single Android phone completely out of the water.

OK, I’m just jerking your chains, but there has been a lot of discussion about 
the iPhone X since the September Apple keynote, the phone was available for 
preorder last Friday and will be available in stores and start shipping this 
Friday (November 3). Of course there is no way you would get one at this point 
probably until the new year because Apple is not at all able at this point to 
supply as many phones as are in demand despite the steep price tag.

I am sure some on the list will be able to snag one, for one thing Jonathan 
Mosen is planning to buy one simply because that is his business and once he 
gets it I am sure he will publish a very detailed and well-produced Podcast on 
all it’s features.

For now just rest assured that both Face Id and all the gestures have been made 
accessible by Apple, this iPhone has no more home button hence no more Touch 
Id. The only way to unlock it is either by entering a passcode or by training 
the phone to recognize your face. In case you didn’t follow this, Apple says 
the chance somebody else could unlock your iPhone with Touch Id was 1 in 50,000 
and they claim that with Face Id this is now 1 in a Million. This of course 
does not apply to identical twins where Face Id can apparently be fooled.

Enjoy your new iPhone X.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Pablo Morales
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 7:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: gesters for iPhone X

 

Hi guys,

 

I have a few questions about the new iPhone X. 

I know that this phone has not been released, however I believe that you have 
found some information about this new device.

I understand that this phone doesn’t have a home button. I also understand that 
to activate siri people needs to flick on the side, and to close an app do 
another gester. Using voice over, how this gesters are going to work?

I don’t know if this topic has been handled on the list. If it is the case, 
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Re: gestures for iPhone X

2017-11-01 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
Jonathan, One question I don’t think I’ve heard a clear answer to, How would a 
totally blind user interact with the face ID with a minimum of aggrovation?

From: Jonathan Mosen 
Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 19:11
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: gestures for iPhone X

Hi Sieghard and all, yes, my iPhone X is arriving tomorrow. Because of the time 
difference, it means I’ll have it before they arrive in the US. I’ll be 
unboxing it, setting up face ID, playing with new gestures, making a purchase 
and even doing a recording from the phone on The Blind Side Podcast 61. When 
it’s published depends a bit on when the courier delivers, but I expect it to 
be late Thursday night US Eastern time. So even if you’re getting a phone on 
launch day, if you’re in the US you should be able to hear the podcast first.

 

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, audiobooks and training

http://www.mosen.org

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2017 5:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: gesters for iPhone X

 

Pablo,

 

You should definitely buy the iPhone X, it is the ultimate smartphone and blows 
every single Android phone completely out of the water.

OK, I’m just jerking your chains, but there has been a lot of discussion about 
the iPhone X since the September Apple keynote, the phone was available for 
preorder last Friday and will be available in stores and start shipping this 
Friday (November 3). Of course there is no way you would get one at this point 
probably until the new year because Apple is not at all able at this point to 
supply as many phones as are in demand despite the steep price tag.

I am sure some on the list will be able to snag one, for one thing Jonathan 
Mosen is planning to buy one simply because that is his business and once he 
gets it I am sure he will publish a very detailed and well-produced Podcast on 
all it’s features.

For now just rest assured that both Face Id and all the gestures have been made 
accessible by Apple, this iPhone has no more home button hence no more Touch 
Id. The only way to unlock it is either by entering a passcode or by training 
the phone to recognize your face. In case you didn’t follow this, Apple says 
the chance somebody else could unlock your iPhone with Touch Id was 1 in 50,000 
and they claim that with Face Id this is now 1 in a Million. This of course 
does not apply to identical twins where Face Id can apparently be fooled.

Enjoy your new iPhone X.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Pablo Morales
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 7:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: gesters for iPhone X

 

Hi guys,

 

I have a few questions about the new iPhone X. 

I know that this phone has not been released, however I believe that you have 
found some information about this new device.

I understand that this phone doesn’t have a home button. I also understand that 
to activate siri people needs to flick on the side, and to close an app do 
another gester. Using voice over, how this gesters are going to work?

I don’t know if this topic has been handled on the list. If it is the case, 
could someone let me know?

Thanks

 

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Re: 11.1

2017-11-01 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone

I did wonder what the point was as I already have spectrum TV on the phone.

-Original Message- 
From: Donna

Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2017 08:59
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 11.1

For me the Tv app is useless. The app is to make movie viewing apps to be 
found in one general app for easier access. I have a media folder that I 
created that serves the same purpose.


Donna


We haven't got the TV app in the U.K.


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Sent: 01 November 2017 00:00
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Subject: Re: 11.1

it hasn't been there in all countries

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 11:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: 11.1

Simon,
Tv was in ios10  this was in a liter update of iOS 10. So it’s been there 
all along. Thank you, Doug


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 31, 2017, at 6:16 PM, Simon Wong  wrote:


Hi, since updating to 11.1, I now have an extra app on my phone,
according to what it says, it’s called TV. Has anybody use this?
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Re: ios update

2017-10-31 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
folks, I still do not appear to have access to my f keys under 11.1 
particularly f1.


-Original Message- 
From: doug oliver

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ios update

Yes

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 31, 2017, at 12:43 PM, Patti Johnson  wrote:

What about the braille issues, did the newest update fix that?
I heard a message on my phone this morning saying that new settings
for my devices had been installed.  Maybe the word wasn't settings, I
don't remember now, but I have no idea what it meant.

Patti

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Re: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key

2017-10-26 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
which is supposed to be the function key? I tried to use f1 to get to the app 
switcher and got nowhere.

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2017 17:33
To: ViPone list 
Subject: Bluetooth Keyboard commands using the Function key

According to the latest iOS 11 Keyboard commands from the Apple user guide, 
Function Key plus VO, plus n opens the notification center. 
I have tried with both the Logitech k480 and the AmazonBasics keyboard and it 
doesn’t work.
I do not have access to an Apple Wireless keyboard.  I wonder if it works with 
it?

Thanks,
Richard





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Re: Phone update

2017-10-24 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
on 2 prior occasions when I entered my passcode it did nothing and I was not 
even interacting with the phone when it updated.


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 13:34
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Phone update

As Dave pointed out, you must have selected I Agree or put in your passcode 
at some point since there is no way it updates automatically without at 
least the need for you to put in your passcode. I have had iPhones since 
2010 and never ever did any of my phones update to a new iOS version without 
me giving my permission.


Regards,
Sieghard

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it certainly did it in this case even though I was prompted to update on 
several cases. In all of those cases I said later even using the hardware 
keyboard to insure against mistakes.  This occured with a 6plus.


-Original Message-
From: Billy Maynard
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 11:15
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Phone update

hi,

The only way this wil happen in my experience is if when the alert pops up 
that a new version of IOS is avalable is if you double tap later and double 
tap agree to the terms of service it will after ou enter in your passcode 
update at night between 2-4 A.M.  Otherwise IOS does not update on it's own 
ever.  I'm still running 10.3.3 and I have 11.0.3 avalable on my phone and 
have not updated yet.

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Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 7:15 AM
Subject: Phone update



Hi, how does the phone update itself, without you having to agree to
update it?

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Re: Phone update

2017-10-24 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
it certainly did it in this case even though I was prompted to update on 
several cases. In all of those cases I said later even using the hardware 
keyboard to insure against mistakes.  This occured with a 6plus.


-Original Message- 
From: Billy Maynard

Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 11:15
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Phone update

hi,

The only way this wil happen in my experience is if when the alert pops up
that a new version of IOS is avalable is if you double tap later and double
tap agree to the terms of service it will after ou enter in your passcode
update at night between 2-4 A.M.  Otherwise IOS does not update on it's own
ever.  I'm still running 10.3.3 and I have 11.0.3 avalable on my phone and
have not updated yet.
- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2017 7:15 AM
Subject: Phone update


Hi, how does the phone update itself, without you having to agree to 
update it?


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Re: changing the way received signal is displayed

2017-10-24 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
the phone took it upon itself to update Although I did not think it would do 
that


-Original Message- 
From: M. Taylor

Sent: Monday, October 23, 2017 15:40
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: changing the way received signal is displayed

Hello Ray,

According to the web, it is no longer possible to place iOS 11.x on iPHone 
into permanent Field Test mode.  Field Test mode is the state in which 
iPhone needs to be, in order to display signal strength in numbers rather 
than bars.


I submitted a feature request to Apple, regarding this but whether or not 
they will restore this functionality is anyone's guess.  If they do, I 
suspect it will take years.


Just one more reason why, so far, I'm glad I have not yet updated to iOS 11. 
(smile)


Mark

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Subject: changing the way received signal is displayed

How do we go from bars to numbers again?
Ray T. Mahorney
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keyboard issue after apparent forced upgrade

2017-10-23 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
I have an amazon basics keyboard connected to the phone. Under Bluetooth 
settings, it Identifies as a KT1281. After the upgrade, I no longer have a 
number of the f key functions such as f1 twice to get to the app switcher. Is 
this a bug or is this keyboard no longer compatible with IOS11? Also how do I 
go about deleting messages from the messages app without having to stand on my 
head? When I select delete and invoke it with either a finger or the keyboard, 
The message does not appear to delete. What might I be missing or, is this also 
a bug?
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Re: after updating, some oddities

2017-10-22 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
I was talking about text messages and the f1 using the amazon basics keyboard 
does not get me to the app switcher.

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2017 16:13
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: after updating, some oddities

Ray, 
I’m using the Logitech K480 and the f1 key still works as you describe.
I do not here apostrophe, but I never paid attention to that so I do not know 
if that is a change or what.
That could be determined by the punctuation setting for VoiceOver.

I’m not clear on your messages question.  If you are talking text messages, 
there  is a bug in iOS 11 that leaves a “null” item when you delete a message.

IF you are talking Email messages, no, you do not have to delete them twice.

Richard





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  As I was putting the update of the phone off as long as possible, the phone 
updated itself. After the update was complete, there appears to be some 
oddities. First, doubletapping the f1 key on the keyboard use to get me into 
the app switcher. Has that changed? Second, should you have to delete a message 
twice to get it to delete and should that cause the message app to close? Also, 
voiceover no longer says apostrophe when I press that key.  Did I break 
something?
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changing the way received signal is displayed

2017-10-21 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
How do we go from bars to numbers again?
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configuring auto answer

2017-10-21 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
Setting that up was explained but I can’t find that thread.  Could someone pass 
that along?
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after updating, some oddities

2017-10-21 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
As I was putting the update of the phone off as long as possible, the phone 
updated itself. After the update was complete, there appears to be some 
oddities. First, doubletapping the f1 key on the keyboard use to get me into 
the app switcher. Has that changed? Second, should you have to delete a message 
twice to get it to delete and should that cause the message app to close? Also, 
voiceover no longer says apostrophe when I press that key.  Did I break 
something?
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carrier settings update

2017-10-21 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
Remind me what data is contained in these carrier updates? In this case, from 
AT
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Re: Vorail

2017-10-19 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
muting threads also works well if you’re not comfortable with muting individual 
users.

From: Gordon 
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 15:55
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Vorail

Vorial is like anything else in life in my opinion. There is good and bad out 
there. I've found some awesome people out there, however I don't feed into the 
drama when I hear it. If you do that, you shouldn't have to deal with any of 
the drama. Mute whoever you don't wish to hear and it works well. 




On 10/19/2017 2:05 PM, Shirley Healy wrote:

  do people use this ap? have you found people on there to be friendly?
  I've used it and have had some nice conversations, but there seems to be lots 
of drama on there!
  even other vorail users warned me about it!
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Re: Vorail

2017-10-19 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
quite.

From: Beverly 
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 16:03
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Vorail

I like zello better.  


  - Original Message - 
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  Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 3:05 PM
  Subject: Vorail

  do people use this ap? have you found people on there to be friendly?
  I've used it and have had some nice conversations, but there seems to be lots 
of drama on there!
  even other vorail users warned me about it!
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Re: Vorail

2017-10-19 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
either that or they’re not as obvious.

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
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Maybe they should call it DramaVis. I know I am going out on a limb here, but I 
have noticed that a certain group among the blind/visually impaired does tend 
to be drama-oriented. Of course you have such people among the sighted as well, 
but percentage wise I’d say there are fewer.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Shirley Healy
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2017 12:06 PM
To: ;
Subject: Vorail

 

do people use this ap? have you found people on there to be friendly?

I've used it and have had some nice conversations, but there seems to be lots 
of drama on there!

even other vorail users warned me about it!

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Re: Vorail

2017-10-19 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
Oh you’re going to get that everywhere you go Most of the folks over there know 
one another from other forums or chatlines and similar systems. At the end of 
the day though, it is what you make it.
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do people use this ap? have you found people on there to be friendly?
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broadcastify and notifications

2017-10-12 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
Am I missing something or does the broadcastify app not have a notification 
capability? Scanner radio deluxe did but it does not appear to give me access 
to the feed archives as broadcastify does which is interesting as both 
applications talk to broadcastify. Admittedly archive access is a premium 
service but in the wake of recent events worth it. I only wish the thing had a 
notification capability or that I weren’t missing it if it does.

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Re: From touch ID to face recognition

2017-09-20 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
I thought I remembered that correctly.

From: regina alvarado 
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 15:07
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: From touch ID to face recognition


Ray, only the iPhone X has facial recognition. The 8 and 8 Plus still have the 
home button. HTH. 



Reggie and Lex 


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A bit confused here folks. I got in to a discussion with someone about the new 
phone models and they mentioned that with the introduction of face recognition, 
Apple would be eliminating touch ID. Are they doing this and with which model 
do you no longer have the touch ID function?
Ray T. Mahorney
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From touch ID to face recognition

2017-09-20 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
A bit confused here folks. I got in to a discussion with someone about the new 
phone models and they mentioned that with the introduction of face recognition, 
Apple would be eliminating touch ID. Are they doing this and with which model 
do you no longer have the touch ID function?
Ray T. Mahorney
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sprint and AT offer discounts, and strings.

2017-09-14 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
Might be good deals for some of you. Others, not so much.
https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/13/16303954/att-sprint-iphone-8-deals-announced-bogo-trade-in
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Re: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in iPhone 10?

2017-09-14 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
that’s what I am looking for.

From: Andy Baracco 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 23:52
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in iPhone 
10?

The carriers may offer discounts as an incentive to switch.
Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Mary Otten 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 8:27 PM
  Subject: Re: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in 
iPhone 10?

  The price isn't going to go down very much this year. Unlike what happens 
with android phones, where you see all kinds of discounts and deals and two for 
one at Cetera, don't look for any big deals on the iPhone ex. Besides, as a 
blind person, it makes zero sense to buy this phone. You get nothing that you 
can't get in the iPhone 8 Plus.
  Mary



  Sent from my iPhone

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that price will come down over time if the market is anything to go on.

From: Jewel 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 22:30
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in 
iPhone 10?

From what I hear, precious little to precious none!! and the price makes it 
even more unattractive!
Who wants to keep up with the well-heeled Jones' anyway?

 Jewel

From: Cris Ali 
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in 
iPhone 10?


I love the short text channel on Seeing AI.  I almost stopped using KNFB 
reader entirely because of that.  I used to use KNFB reader mostly to identify 
the pieces of mail I get, but now I use seeing AI instead.

Cheers,

Cris 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 8:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in 
iPhone 10?


I think OCR results also depend on who is doing the scanning since there 
are people on this list who say they can’t for the life of them even get 
anything good with KNFB Reader.

If the print is good I get near 100% accuracy both with KNFB Reader and the 
document scanning channel in Seeing AI.

The short text channel of that app is almost miraculous in it’s speed and 
accuracy.

A better camera may make a difference in how good of a result you get in 
difficult lighting or if your hand is a bit shaky, but when it comes down to it 
then under good lighting conditions somebody with a steady hand and with a good 
ability to hold the phone straight and at the right distance to the page would 
probably get a better result with an iPhone 5S than somebody who wasn’t able to 
do a good job with an iPhone X.



Regards,

Sieghard


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Cris Ali
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 12:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in 
iPhone 10?


I say this because I have been using OCR apps, including text detective, 
text grabber prizmo, KNFB reader and others since iPhone 4S and have not seen a 
huge OCR improvements.  In other words the OCR improvements do not match the 
huge changes in the photo quality across the various releases of the iPhone.  
Of course the improvements in stability and speed of recognition are noticeable 
between 4S and five, 5 and 5S, 6 and 6S etc.…  but the speed and stability are 
functions of memory and processor>  I would imagine that the great improvements 
in Cameras would be reflected in much more accurate OCR results. 



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 2:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in 
iPhone 10?


Why do you say developers of OCR apps have not taken full advantage of the 
camera capabilities of the 6S and 7? Just curious how you know this? 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Cris Ali
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 8:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in iPhone 
10?


May be it is too early to tell because none of us has seen iPhone ten yet.  
But I listened to the Apple description of the hardware carefully and I could 
not find in it anything for me as a blind user which does not already exist in 
iPhone seven or the forth coming iPhone eight.  How many pixels on the retina 
display is of no interest to me since I have the curtains always turned on.  I 
am not sure how much a

Re: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in iPhone 10?

2017-09-13 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
that price will come down over time if the market is anything to go on.

From: Jewel 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 22:30
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in iPhone 
10?

>From what I hear, precious little to precious none!! and the price makes it 
>even more unattractive!
Who wants to keep up with the well-heeled Jones' anyway?

 Jewel

From: Cris Ali 
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 2:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in iPhone 
10?


I love the short text channel on Seeing AI.  I almost stopped using KNFB reader 
entirely because of that.  I used to use KNFB reader mostly to identify the 
pieces of mail I get, but now I use seeing AI instead.

Cheers,

Cris 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 8:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in iPhone 
10?

 

I think OCR results also depend on who is doing the scanning since there are 
people on this list who say they can’t for the life of them even get anything 
good with KNFB Reader.

If the print is good I get near 100% accuracy both with KNFB Reader and the 
document scanning channel in Seeing AI.

The short text channel of that app is almost miraculous in it’s speed and 
accuracy.

A better camera may make a difference in how good of a result you get in 
difficult lighting or if your hand is a bit shaky, but when it comes down to it 
then under good lighting conditions somebody with a steady hand and with a good 
ability to hold the phone straight and at the right distance to the page would 
probably get a better result with an iPhone 5S than somebody who wasn’t able to 
do a good job with an iPhone X.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cris Ali
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 12:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in iPhone 
10?

 

I say this because I have been using OCR apps, including text detective, text 
grabber prizmo, KNFB reader and others since iPhone 4S and have not seen a huge 
OCR improvements.  In other words the OCR improvements do not match the huge 
changes in the photo quality across the various releases of the iPhone.  Of 
course the improvements in stability and speed of recognition are noticeable 
between 4S and five, 5 and 5S, 6 and 6S etc.…  but the speed and stability are 
functions of memory and processor>  I would imagine that the great improvements 
in Cameras would be reflected in much more accurate OCR results. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 2:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in iPhone 
10?

 

Why do you say developers of OCR apps have not taken full advantage of the 
camera capabilities of the 6S and 7? Just curious how you know this? 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cris Ali
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 8:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in iPhone 10?

 

May be it is too early to tell because none of us has seen iPhone ten yet.  But 
I listened to the Apple description of the hardware carefully and I could not 
find in it anything for me as a blind user which does not already exist in 
iPhone seven or the forth coming iPhone eight.  How many pixels on the retina 
display is of no interest to me since I have the curtains always turned on.  I 
am not sure how much advantages could the developers of OCR apps can find in 
iPhone ten’s camera to perfect their products,  As is the Cameras in the 
existing iPhone six S and Seven are great, and the developers of OCR apps have 
not taken full advantages of them yet.

Very curious to know if You folks have reached similar tentative impressions to 
mine.

Regards,

Cris

 

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Re: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in iPhone 10?

2017-09-13 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
would it not be better to have the phone on a flat surface so that the scanning 
device at least is steady?

From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 20:33
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in iPhone 
10?

I think OCR results also depend on who is doing the scanning since there are 
people on this list who say they can’t for the life of them even get anything 
good with KNFB Reader.

If the print is good I get near 100% accuracy both with KNFB Reader and the 
document scanning channel in Seeing AI.

The short text channel of that app is almost miraculous in it’s speed and 
accuracy.

A better camera may make a difference in how good of a result you get in 
difficult lighting or if your hand is a bit shaky, but when it comes down to it 
then under good lighting conditions somebody with a steady hand and with a good 
ability to hold the phone straight and at the right distance to the page would 
probably get a better result with an iPhone 5S than somebody who wasn’t able to 
do a good job with an iPhone X.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cris Ali
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 12:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in iPhone 
10?

 

I say this because I have been using OCR apps, including text detective, text 
grabber prizmo, KNFB reader and others since iPhone 4S and have not seen a huge 
OCR improvements.  In other words the OCR improvements do not match the huge 
changes in the photo quality across the various releases of the iPhone.  Of 
course the improvements in stability and speed of recognition are noticeable 
between 4S and five, 5 and 5S, 6 and 6S etc.…  but the speed and stability are 
functions of memory and processor>  I would imagine that the great improvements 
in Cameras would be reflected in much more accurate OCR results. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 2:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in iPhone 
10?

 

Why do you say developers of OCR apps have not taken full advantage of the 
camera capabilities of the 6S and 7? Just curious how you know this? 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cris Ali
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 8:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What do you expect the advantages to be for a blind user in iPhone 10?

 

May be it is too early to tell because none of us has seen iPhone ten yet.  But 
I listened to the Apple description of the hardware carefully and I could not 
find in it anything for me as a blind user which does not already exist in 
iPhone seven or the forth coming iPhone eight.  How many pixels on the retina 
display is of no interest to me since I have the curtains always turned on.  I 
am not sure how much advantages could the developers of OCR apps can find in 
iPhone ten’s camera to perfect their products,  As is the Cameras in the 
existing iPhone six S and Seven are great, and the developers of OCR apps have 
not taken full advantages of them yet.

Very curious to know if You folks have reached similar tentative impressions to 
mine.

Regards,

Cris

 

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Re: About unlocking iPhone 10

2017-09-13 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone

what if your eyes are prosthetic as mine are?

-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 13:49
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: About unlocking iPhone 10

It will be interesting to see how this works in the real world once these 
phones are in the hands of blind users. It's nice Apple is thinking of this, 
but I thought it was neat how Face Id wouldn't unlock a phone if the person 
had their eyes closed. This makes total sense because if it could be 
unlocked this way anybody could pick up your phone if you are asleep or what 
if you had an accident and are unconscious or what if somebody simply hit 
you on the head because they want to steel your phone. They could then 
unlock it quite easily by simply pointing it to your face.
Of course in the situation where you are out cold because of an accident or 
because you got bonked on the head somebody could do what they want with 
your hand as well and unlock using Touch Id. Nobody could pick up my hand to 
put it on the Touch Id if I'm asleep without waking me up, but you could 
probably pick up my wife and put her in a tub filled with cold water without 
waking her up when she's asleep *smile*.
Anyhow, I would probably re-enable the attention feature first to see if it 
works just for security, if it's disabled by default when Voiceover is 
running and a smart iPhone thief knows this they could simply bring up SIRI, 
tell SIRI to turn on Voiceover and then this security aspect would be 
disabled.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Greg Wocher

Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 4:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: About unlocking iPhone 10

Hello,
You will be able to turn off the attention option in the accessibility 
options. This means you will not have to have your eyes open I believe. This 
was mentioned in an applevis post.


Regards,
Greg Wocher

On Sep 12, 2017, at 7:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Maybe eyes have to be open so nobody can take your phone and  unlock it by 
pointing it at you while you are asleep.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mary Otten

Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 3:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: About unlocking iPhone 10

The interesting thing is that they say you have to have your eyes not 
closed. If it were just facial recognition, why would it care if your eyes 
were open or closed? I know some totally blind people, myself included, 
who are sometimes told or asked, why do you have your eyes closed. When 
that happens to me, I honestly say I didn't realize they were closed. And 
opening them or at least when I guess is opening them feels entirely not 
natural. Fortunately, as the owner of a 7+, I do not feel the need to rush 
out for an upgrade.


Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 12, 2017, at 2:18 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

I think it will work just fine, my eyes are fake, too, but Face Id is not 
about retina or any other eye scanning but facial recognition.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Kathy Brandt

Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: About unlocking iPhone 10

Interesting Apple event today. I wonder, if you have artificial eyes, and 
poor muscle control, by view even of the fact that your eyes aren't real, 
will the iPhone recognize that you're trying to look at it? Hopefully 
they have thought of this, and there is an alternative way to unlock it


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Re: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET

2017-09-07 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
as we are dealing with the face I thought the process would be somewhat less 
than strait forward.


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 00:15
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - 
CNET


How is it not accessible if all you have to do is look into the front 
camera?



-Original Message-
From: 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 9:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - 
CNET


they would really drop the ball in the area of accessibility if they did not 
which brings me to face recognition. they plan to make that accessible how?


-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 00:01
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - 
CNET


I have little doubt that if there is no more physical home button that Apple 
will make the alternative virtual home button fully accessible.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change -
CNET

Hello Larry,

Many of Androids most popular devices, for many, many years, have not used a
physical Home button.  Instead, they use soft, or on-screen) navigation
buttons located on the bottom row of the display.  Unlike the S8 series,
however, these navigation buttons were always available.  This is to say,
they did not scroll off the display.

Until the S 8 series, Samsung was the only major brand that used a physical
Home button on all of its Android devices.

None of my Android phones, with the exception of the S 6, have physical Home
buttons; so I am no stranger to the technology.  However, I strongly believe
that because of its physical Home button, I tended to gravitate towards my S
6 more than the others.

Anyway, in the case of the new s 8 series, there is a soft home button
located in the center bottom row of the display.
With the S 8, unfortunately, the Home button can scroll off the screen.
This is kind of a pain, to say the least--especially when one wishes to
quickly return to his/her starting point.

Apple tends to implement new technology with more flare and feasibility than
its competition.  Let's hope it continues that standard.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 3:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change -
CNET

If apple removes the physical home button, how will the blind access it?


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of M. Taylor
Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 5:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET

Hello Everyone,

I hope you find the following article interesting.

As for me, I can tell you that I definitely miss a physical Home button,
with integrated Touch ID, on the Samsung Galaxy S 8, so much so, that I have
reverted back to my Galaxy S 6.

If Apple does remove a bezel-based Home button, I  certainly hope that it
comes up with a better design solution than Samsung.

Mark

CNET News - Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 1:14 PM Goodbye, home button?
Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET

What will life be like without one of these? Maybe we already know the
answer.
Sarah Tew/CNET
When Apple unveils its new high-end iPhone on Sept. 12, it's widely expected
to do away with the most iconic part of its handset: the home button. If the
rumors are true, the all-screen design of the so-called iPhone 8 means no
room for a bottom bezel, and thus no room for a physical home button (and
its Touch ID fingerprint sensor). It will be the biggest design change to
hit the iPhone in its 10-plus year history -- a radical change to the most
basic usage element that has existed on the phone since day one.

A glyph that appears in the HomePod firmware could be the rumored iPhone 8.
MacRumors
Or maybe it won't be that shocking a change at all.
In fact, Apple has been nudging millions of iPhone owners with changes to
homescreen navigation for the past several years. There are already pieces
in place to suggest the transition may not be as wild and weird as you might
expect. Android phones have already done it, and the iPhone can do it too.
The current iPhone's no-click home button could be training wheels for how
the iPhone 8 will work Here's the funny thing: The iPhone's home button is
already gone. Instead of a physical button, 2016's iPhone 7 and 7 Plus
featured a solid-state

Re: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET

2017-09-06 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
they would really drop the ball in the area of accessibility if they did not 
which brings me to face recognition. they plan to make that accessible how?


-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 00:01
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - 
CNET


I have little doubt that if there is no more physical home button that Apple 
will make the alternative virtual home button fully accessible.



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Of M. Taylor

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - 
CNET


Hello Larry,

Many of Androids most popular devices, for many, many years, have not used a 
physical Home button.  Instead, they use soft, or on-screen) navigation 
buttons located on the bottom row of the display.  Unlike the S8 series, 
however, these navigation buttons were always available.  This is to say, 
they did not scroll off the display.


Until the S 8 series, Samsung was the only major brand that used a physical 
Home button on all of its Android devices.


None of my Android phones, with the exception of the S 6, have physical Home 
buttons; so I am no stranger to the technology.  However, I strongly believe 
that because of its physical Home button, I tended to gravitate towards my S 
6 more than the others.


Anyway, in the case of the new s 8 series, there is a soft home button 
located in the center bottom row of the display.
With the S 8, unfortunately, the Home button can scroll off the screen. 
This is kind of a pain, to say the least--especially when one wishes to 
quickly return to his/her starting point.


Apple tends to implement new technology with more flare and feasibility than 
its competition.  Let's hope it continues that standard.


Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Larry Lumpkin

Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2017 3:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - 
CNET


If apple removes the physical home button, how will the blind access it?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of M. Taylor

Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 5:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Goodbye, home button? Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET

Hello Everyone,

I hope you find the following article interesting.

As for me, I can tell you that I definitely miss a physical Home button, 
with integrated Touch ID, on the Samsung Galaxy S 8, so much so, that I have 
reverted back to my Galaxy S 6.


If Apple does remove a bezel-based Home button, I  certainly hope that it 
comes up with a better design solution than Samsung.


Mark

CNET News - Wednesday, September 6, 2017 at 1:14 PM Goodbye, home button? 
Get ready for iPhone's biggest change - CNET


What will life be like without one of these? Maybe we already know the 
answer.

Sarah Tew/CNET
When Apple unveils its new high-end iPhone on Sept. 12, it's widely expected 
to do away with the most iconic part of its handset: the home button. If the 
rumors are true, the all-screen design of the so-called iPhone 8 means no 
room for a bottom bezel, and thus no room for a physical home button (and 
its Touch ID fingerprint sensor). It will be the biggest design change to 
hit the iPhone in its 10-plus year history -- a radical change to the most 
basic usage element that has existed on the phone since day one.


A glyph that appears in the HomePod firmware could be the rumored iPhone 8.
MacRumors
Or maybe it won't be that shocking a change at all.
In fact, Apple has been nudging millions of iPhone owners with changes to 
homescreen navigation for the past several years. There are already pieces 
in place to suggest the transition may not be as wild and weird as you might 
expect. Android phones have already done it, and the iPhone can do it too.
The current iPhone's no-click home button could be training wheels for how 
the iPhone 8 will work Here's the funny thing: The iPhone's home button is 
already gone. Instead of a physical button, 2016's iPhone 7 and 7 Plus 
featured a solid-state panel that used subtle vibration to simulate a button 
press. It initially drew mixed opinions: some felt the click was weird; 
others liked the haptic thump. But the point is, I got used to it, and most 
people I know did, too.
It feels a bit like a real button, but it's not. And maybe that's how the 
iPhone 8 display will work, too.
Enhanced vibration (called "Taptic Engine") give the iPhone and Apple Watch 
their taps and thumps, and it already does a few things on the iPhone 6S and 
later models to feel tactile in iOS 10 (scroll wheels in settings, or 
pressing in on app icons). 

Re: Got phone going, but have questions

2017-09-02 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
one other possibility which may solve your extra letter problem. Turning VO 
off and back on again That should eliminate the problem and may involve 
fewer steps.


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From: Terri Stimmel

Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2017 14:08
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Got phone going, but have questions

Hello everyone,


This message sort of covers different topics. I apologize for this. But
I didn't want to burden the list.


Ok Ias some of you might already know, I got a 5S last night. I love it!

I got it home, and I actually remembered how to set it up, on my own. I
must say i was proud of my self.

Most of my texts, Apps, and contacts were all there.


So first of all, what is keychain?

What are reasons we would want this?

I did set up a fingerprint, but I didn't want a passcode.


Also, when I type on my Boxwave bluetooth Buddy keyboard, it sometimes
puts extra letters in.

Now I know that there was a bug where the keyboards would do this. But
this isn't the same problem I have seen in the past.


Here is my last question for the time being.


Why would we want iCloud Drive?

What exactly does it do?

How can it be helpful?

Also, what is the cost of it?


Well I am off for now. I hope you all didn't mind the questions.


Terri

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setting up an amazon echo

2017-07-11 Thread 'Ray T. Mahorney' via VIPhone
Questions are as follows. Is it normal behavior for the Alexa app to route 
audio away from the speaker and to the phones earpiece? Also, does one need to 
use the app to configure the echo or can one use the PC to configure the echo? 
Finally, is there a user list for these things?  Thanks folks.

Ray T. Mahorney
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Re: Does anyone have the latest BT keyboard commands for iOS 10.2?

2017-01-04 Thread 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone
on this, can someone remind me which is the command key on the amazon basics 
keyboard?  Thanks folks.

From: Cris Ali 
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2017 18:01
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Does anyone have the latest BT keyboard commands for iOS 10.2?

Hello folks,
I have not used a Bluetooth keyboard with my iPhone in quite a while.  Today I 
decided to bring out of my closet my ancient Stowaway Ultra slim keyboard and 
connected it to my iPhone.  I noticed however, that the commands changed quite 
a bit from what I used to remember back when I used this keyboard four or five 
years ago.
If anyone has the updated instructions and commands to use BT Keyboard with iOS 
10.2, please pass them on to me.  Or if anyone knows a place where I can find 
the updated BTK commands for iOS, please send me the link.

Cheers,

Cris

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Re: Youtube channel updates and such

2016-11-30 Thread 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone
there should be a setting within each channel to which you are subscribed to 
disable notifications from that channel. You may need to look within each 
channel to find it.


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Youtube channel updates and such

Hello once more, everyone.


I have Youtube on my Ipad Mini. I am subscribed to a few channels. One
of them happens to be the Voice.


I enjoy being subscribed to this channel.

However, I get several notices, in the week, sometimes a few in one day.
Notices of videos that have been uploaded.


Is there a way to stop this from happening?

If so, how would I do this?


I'm sure that I set this up when adding the channel. I just don't think
I realized how many notices I would receive. I want to look at the
channel when I want to do so.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: looking at adding an IPad

2016-11-18 Thread 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone
well I’ll be adding the thing in January and I will have more to say about it 
then. On that, what’s the base storage for the current generation of IPads?

From: Mary Otten 
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 00:32
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: looking at adding an IPad

You know, I'm not sure. I had mine off, I'm not sure how or why that happened. 
But I was at an Apple Store trying to solve a problem with a dead iPhone and 
needed to get the code for my Apple ID for two factor verification. So they had 
to put my iPad mini on the Wi-Fi network and then the guy discovered that 
iMessages were off, so he turned them on. But I'm not sure what he did to turn 
them on. I just looked and handoff, and it seems pretty generic, talking about 
how the application will show up that you need to use to continue doing what it 
was you were doing on the other device. So all that long answer to say that I 
really am not sure. I hope someone else can help you better.
Mary



Sent from my iPhone

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  does that fall under handoff?  By the way you may have just explained 
something else to me.  When I was getting ready to dump an IPhone 5, I had 
already put the 6 plus on the network and provisioned it including enabling 
wifi calling. At some point, both phones rang and I was able to answer with the 
5 Now, I think I know why.

  From: Mary Otten 
  Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 00:08
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: looking at adding an IPad

  Hi Ray, enable Wi-Fi calling for your phone if it isn't already. Then make 
sure your iPad and your phone or on the same Wi-Fi network. And I think that 
should do it for you. You can also enable iMessage on your iPad so that you can 
get text messages or at least iMessages, I don't know about non-iMessage 
messages.
  Mary



  Sent from my iPhone

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When I do this what do I need to set up to enable the IPad to handle calls 
and texts through my primary mobile number?  Did I phrase that correctly?
Ray T. Mahorney
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Re: looking at adding an IPad

2016-11-18 Thread 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone
does that fall under handoff?  By the way you may have just explained something 
else to me.  When I was getting ready to dump an IPhone 5, I had already put 
the 6 plus on the network and provisioned it including enabling wifi calling. 
At some point, both phones rang and I was able to answer with the 5 Now, I 
think I know why.

From: Mary Otten 
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 00:08
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: looking at adding an IPad

Hi Ray, enable Wi-Fi calling for your phone if it isn't already. Then make sure 
your iPad and your phone or on the same Wi-Fi network. And I think that should 
do it for you. You can also enable iMessage on your iPad so that you can get 
text messages or at least iMessages, I don't know about non-iMessage messages.
Mary



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  When I do this what do I need to set up to enable the IPad to handle calls 
and texts through my primary mobile number?  Did I phrase that correctly?
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looking at adding an IPad

2016-11-18 Thread 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone
When I do this what do I need to set up to enable the IPad to handle calls and 
texts through my primary mobile number?  Did I phrase that correctly?
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Re: which phones have offline dictation

2016-11-09 Thread 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone

how would offline dictation work and would it be fairly accurate?

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From: Robin

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: which phones have offline dictation

TheSE Does
that is the iPhoneSE
At 02:06 PM 11/8/2016, you wrote:

Hello,

I'm working on the next edition of getting started with the iPhone, and I 
could use a bit of help. I believe I'm right that the 6s, 6s Plus, SE, and 
the 7 phones all have the following features that other phones don't: Raise 
to Wake, Hey Siri works when the phone is on battery, and offline 
dictation. Is that right?


Thanks a lot,
Anna

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Re: questions regarding police scanning Apps

2016-11-07 Thread 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone
Scanner radio deluxe might serve you better.  Both talk to broadcastify.com. 
One possibility for the reduced number of feeds, Most of those feeds are 
provided by individuals For example, the feed for the W8VPV repeater is 
basically a scanner at 60 feet connected to a computer streaming to 
broadcastify.  What may have happened is that some of these individuals have 
had to discontinue their feeds.  If on the other hand, the feed is being 
provided by a government entity then you're pretty much at the murcy of that 
entity and what they decide to stream or not.  If you try scanner radio 
deluxe, let me know how you get on with it.


-Original Message- 
From: Terri Stimmel

Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 01:05
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Subject: questions regarding police scanning Apps

Hello everyone,


I just have a quick question I hope someone can help me with.


I was wondering, is there possibly a better App out there, for finding
police and other type feeds?

I am currently using 50 Radio Pro. I have the paid version. I've had
this App for a few years now.

I like it alright, but it doesn't seem to have many feeds in my area. I
don't know why this is. And it is as though they have removed a couple
of feeds. I have found a few other feeds using Tune-in.

I live outside of Saint Louis. So you would think there would be many.
But I guess not.


Any help, or thoughts on this would be appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: no home button?

2016-11-06 Thread 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone
you essentially confirmed what I thought about the original claim.  I thought 
they’d have to have a method of performing home button dependent functions.

From: Daniel Miller 
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2016 19:16
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: no home button?

The iPhone 7 does have a home button. Wherever you found that from is obviously 
giving false information. The only difference about the button is that 
haptic,it's   and a mechanical.

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus

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  Help me out folks if the IPhone 7 doesn’t have a home button how are 
functions which would normally require this button performed?
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no home button?

2016-11-06 Thread 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone
Help me out folks if the IPhone 7 doesn’t have a home button how are functions 
which would normally require this button performed?
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Re: a text messaging question

2016-11-06 Thread 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone
I've never seen that and I didn't know you could get rid of that.  That's 
gone.


-Original Message- 
From: Donna

Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2016 16:05
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: a text messaging question

Emoji's are little icons or pictures like faces with different emotions, 
foods, symbols, flags, animals etc. If you don't want to use these you can 
go to Settings, General, Keyboards & delete the Emoji keyboard from the list 
of keyboards that you currently use. What you are hearing is that a word 
that you have typed has an emoji that can be used in place of the typed 
word.


Donna


Hey guys,

Any of you notice that when you're typing a text message, it'll same 
something about imogey or e mo gey, something like that, like it wants to 
put in different characters.  I ahve no idea what this means, but is there 
a way to turn it off? it pronounces it e mo g.  Does this make any sense, 
and does anyone know what it is?


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Re: mostly OT: Echo Link and ham radio

2016-11-02 Thread 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone
first, echolink does not replace radio. For obvious reasons it can't 
particularly in emergencies. Second, the technology is profoundly improved. 
The big antennas you refer to are necessary to operate on lower bands but 
not so for local communications. The equipment these days is in many cases 
comperable to the size of your mobile. On the course,  2 options suggest 
themselves.  First, Handihams.

http://www.handiham.org
You'll get very thorough lessons in the hows, whys, and wherefors of amateur 
radio and the handiham instructers can help you clear up those things which 
may at first seem too much like Greek to comprehend.  The other option is 
the books and CD's produced by Gordon West WB6NOA


http://www.gordonwestradioschool.com/main/page_w5yi_training_resources.html
that should get you started.  Further questions, message direct.
Ray T. Mahorney
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-Original Message- 
From: regina alvarado

Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2016 19:58
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: mostly OT: Echo Link and ham radio

I have a question about Echo Link and ham radio. I would like to look into 
this and perhaps be available in emergencies. How do I find a course to get 
me ready for testing, and does Echo Link take the place of an actual radio? 
Has the technology made it any easier since the 60s when a huge antenae" was 
needed? I had a good friend killed putting up one of those. He got his feet 
in snow. You can guess the result. Just asking anyone with experience in ham 
to point me in the right direction to get started or not if too complicated. 
LOL. Write off list as this is mostly off topic please. Address is 
reggie.alvar...@gmail.com Thanks again. Just exploring and toying with 
possibilities.




Reggie and Lex

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Re: Ham Radio on an iPhone?

2016-10-27 Thread 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone
good enough Echolink would be a good start and then we can figure out exactly 
what’' he’s after.

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 14:11
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Ham Radio on an iPhone?

I don’t know any more than that.

I will see him tomorrow and find out more.

He just said you could use your iPhone as a Ham Radio.

 

Thanks,

Richard

 

From: 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Ham Radio on an iPhone?

 

can you be a bit more specific?  Does he want to control his  radio or use a 
remote base such as the handihams remote base? Echolink will get him on VHF/UHF 
but other than that I am not sure what else is out there that will interface 
VOIP with radio. 

 

From: Richard Turner 

Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 13:43

To: 'ViPone list' 

Subject: Ham Radio on an iPhone?

 

Greetings,

I was talking to a client today who wants to be able to use his iPhone as a Ham 
Radio.

Does anyone know of a good, VoiceOver app that makes this possible?  I’ve never 
heard of this.

 

I will search the app store of course, but if anyone has experience, I’d love 
to hear about it.

 

Thanks,

Richard

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Re: Ham Radio on an iPhone?

2016-10-27 Thread 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone
can you be a bit more specific?  Does he want to control his  radio or use a 
remote base such as the handihams remote base? Echolink will get him on VHF/UHF 
but other than that I am not sure what else is out there that will interface 
VOIP with radio. 

From: Richard Turner 
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2016 13:43
To: 'ViPone list' 
Subject: Ham Radio on an iPhone?

Greetings,

I was talking to a client today who wants to be able to use his iPhone as a Ham 
Radio.

Does anyone know of a good, VoiceOver app that makes this possible?  I’ve never 
heard of this.

 

I will search the app store of course, but if anyone has experience, I’d love 
to hear about it.

 

Thanks,

Richard

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