Questions about MacBook and VoiceOver

[Star Gazer]

I’ve noticed my MacBook is behaving a bit 
differently and I’d like the old way back. It used to be that when I was in an 
email, I could type a name and get an address. If I wanted a different name I 
could use the arrow keys and scroll down. That doesn’t work anymore scrolling 
down puts me into another field and scrolling right doesn’t give me the other 
possible names I want. 
Anybody know how to fix? 
Also, I’d like to be able to read web content without being told the row and 
column with each line. I just want the words and less chatter on row and 
column. 
Any ideas on how to accomplish either of these?

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Taking pictures with Iphone

[Star Gazer]

I’d like to learn to do this. I know I can with the 
paid app who’s name I can’t remember, I’d like to do this without paying for a 
service, I do it just enough to want the capability, not enough to want to pay 
a lot of money to do it. Any ideas? 
Also, piggybacking on this, what ai apps do you all recommend to describe the 
images once taken? 

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Ai that can describe pictures

[Star Gazer]

I use the AI on Be My Eyes and on Seeing AI, are there 
any others? Found one on the web that said a pic was a screen shot of a receipt 
but wouldn’t read the details which is what I cared about, so am looking for 
things that are more useful as in read whatever text was there (and there was 
text there) and am wondering what folks are using. 
Thank you   

> On Feb 20, 2024, at 11:37 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Can you please describe how you installed third party voices on an iPhone 
> which then were available to use with Voiceover?
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Ivan Icin
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2024 3:15 PM
> To: VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
> Subject: Re: third party speech for IOS?
>  
> There are CereProc voices which are high quality and cost 1$/voice. 
>  
> I have just installed one of them. They do appear to be of solid quality but 
> are a bit laggy and buggy. 
> 
> Still I did try them few weeks ago when I couldn’t make anything out of them 
> so you can call this a progress. 
> On Monday, February 19, 2024 at 6:35:53 PM UTC+1 Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> No
>  
> From: vip...@googlegroups.com  
> http://googlegroups.com/>> On Behalf Of Mária 
> Orovcíková
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2024 3:45 AM
> To: vip...@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: third party speech for IOS?
>  
> Hello,
> 
> please, is there a way to use third-party speech/voice on Apple Watch?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Maria
> 
> 
> 
> Dňa 19. 2. 2024 o 12:41 Brandon Misch napísal(a):
> that's all we have for now. rh voice is also in developement but it
> doesn't work with that many languages yet.
>  
> On 2/19/24, 'Ming' via VIPhone  > wrote:
> hi! all,
> any good and natrual  third party speech synthe for IOS?
> I know that  we have E-speak.
> but, other than that...
> don't know anything.
> thanks and regards,
>  
>  
> Ming
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Re: iOS 17.3, Anyone?

[Star Gazer]

They still haven’t fixed the jam issue on 
Spotify where you can’t get off the invite friends to a jam screen. 
Nonvoiceover users can just swipe down to get to the jam details screen, that 
does nothing with VoiceOver on, and no this isn’t a scrub which also doesn’t 
work, the swipe down gets you to an entirely new screen. And yes I’ve been 
talking to Apple on this.

> On Jan 25, 2024, at 1:57 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Are you on iOS 17.3 yet? I used to see this as well, but not so much lately, 
> in fact, can't remember when it last happened.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Cristóbal Muñoz
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 4:35 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iOS 17.3, Anyone?
> 
> I've noticed a couple of times so far when dictating something in an email, 
> my dictation entry is posted twice. Don't know if it's just one of those 
> random things or possibly a bug. Have only experienced in the message field 
> of an email. Nowhere else.
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 3:09 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iOS 17.3, Anyone?
> 
> That's great news, Ryan.
> 
> Let's hope we can all report the same.
> 
> Thanks again.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan 
> Mann
> Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 2:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iOS 17.3, Anyone?
> 
> I installed it and I have not noticed any new bugs yet. 
> Ryan Mann
> Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist rmann0...@gmail.com
> 386-383-5175
> 
> 
>> On Jan 24, 2024, at 5:51 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I see that iOS 17.3 is now available.
>> 
>> Has anyone installed it yet?  If so, are there any new bugs to report? 
>> Or any issues that we should know?
>> 
>> All replies greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
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Re: Spotify and jam sessions

[Star Gazer]

On Spotify, when you are playing something, there is a button 
that lets you pick where you want the track heard. When you click that button 
there is an option that says start a jam. When you click it an option asks you  
if you want to share a link. If you click it you get the share options, message 
email, whatever so you can share the link. 
It allows people to listen to the exact same content at the exact same time. My 
daughter and I love doing this for podcasts. We enjoy our air pods, and in a 
jam session we don’t even have to be in the same physical space. Think watching 
a tv show with someone you love and one of you says “how’d he get in that room” 
and the person also knows exactly what you referring to. 
Explaining because I understand how the concept doesn’t make much sense, my kid 
showed it to me and it took awhile for me to fully grasp the cool and why 
anybody would prefer this factors. 

> On Jan 16, 2024, at 6:50 AM, Tom Rash  wrote:
> 
> Just curious, what is the jam session? 
> 
> 
>> On Jan 15, 2024, at 1:27 PM, Star Gazer  wrote:
>> 
>>  My kid and I like to do listen to things on Spotify using their 
>> jam session feature. When I invite her, I can’t get off the invite friends 
>> to jam screen try as I might. I use VoiceOver. My kid doesn’t. She does a 
>> gesture to get off the screen and the gesture she does does not work with 
>> VoiceOver. What does? This matters because if I can get off that screen, I 
>> can see what’s up next in our queue or reorder it or leave the jam, a button 
>> not just closing up the app. 
>> Any ideas? Point being, I want the same features she’s got and want to know 
>> how to swipe off the invite screen. 
>> Thank you
>> 
>>> On Jan 15, 2024, at 12:27 PM, Beth G  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Does anyone use the ThinkUp app for affirmations?
>>> I am having difficulty navigating the screen to record more than one 
>>> affirmation given some buttons are unlabeled, and when I record a second 
>>> affirmation, the text of affirmation is not the same as the one I think I 
>>> am recording.
>>> 
>>> It’s a really neat app if you like affirmations and want to record them in 
>>> your own voice to playback. However, I am experiencing some Accessibility 
>>> challenges and was wondering if anyone else out there has tried it.
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> Beth
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Spotify and jam sessions

[Star Gazer]

My kid and I like to do listen to things on Spotify using their 
jam session feature. When I invite her, I can’t get off the invite friends to 
jam screen try as I might. I use VoiceOver. My kid doesn’t. She does a gesture 
to get off the screen and the gesture she does does not work with VoiceOver. 
What does? This matters because if I can get off that screen, I can see what’s 
up next in our queue or reorder it or leave the jam, a button not just closing 
up the app. 
Any ideas? Point being, I want the same features she’s got and want to know how 
to swipe off the invite screen. 
Thank you   

> On Jan 15, 2024, at 12:27 PM, Beth G  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Does anyone use the ThinkUp app for affirmations?
> I am having difficulty navigating the screen to record more than one 
> affirmation given some buttons are unlabeled, and when I record a second 
> affirmation, the text of affirmation is not the same as the one I think I am 
> recording.
> 
> It’s a really neat app if you like affirmations and want to record them in 
> your own voice to playback. However, I am experiencing some Accessibility 
> challenges and was wondering if anyone else out there has tried it.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Beth
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: 17.2 and recognising music

[Star Gazer]

Amazon Music app still doesn't work well. What is the action 
button? I thought you had to have an Iphone 15 for that?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2023 12:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: 17.2 and recognising music

I've tested it with VoiceOver and it works perfectly for me.
It is more likely there was a temporary glitch in the internet connection.




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Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 
2024.2310.70.400


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of David 
Grossoehme
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2023 11:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Max 
Subject: Re: 17.2 and recognising music

Have you had your wife and you checked your phone with VO turned off to see if 
the problem occurs?  If not, then bingo, the problem lies with Vo.  Then I'd be 
contacting Apple support as soon as possible.

Dave


On 12/14/2023 4:58 PM, Max wrote:
> Hi all,
> since installing 17.2 Siri and Shazam will not recognise music. Siri says try 
> again later and Shazam appears to do nothing.
> I am using a 13 Pro. I have a friend who has a iPhone SE  who is having the 
> same problem. My wife who doesn’t use VO has not trouble with her 14 Pro it 
> works perfectly. I have turned off the bluetooth  incase working with my 
> hearing aids was causing this with no change.
> I wonder if VO is the problem.
> Anybody else seeing this?
> Thanks for any ideas.
> Max.
>

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RE: macbook

[Star Gazer]

You know how like on an Iphone you can get to 
brightness and where you want to send audio output? That thing is what I want 
to get to. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Rash
Sent: Saturday, December 9, 2023 6:42 AM
To: Viphone 
Subject: Re: macbook

 

Notification screen is control option N.  Not sure what you mean by control 
center.  

 





On Dec 8, 2023, at 7:37 AM, Star Gazer mailto:pickrellrebe...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Thanks. What about the notification screen and the control center? I’ll get 
this figured out. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tom 
Rash
Sent: Friday, December 8, 2023 5:56 AM
To: Viphone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: macbook

 

Try shift control option D.

 






On Dec 7, 2023, at 4:38 AM, Star Gazer mailto:pickrellrebe...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

It does. Hardest part is getting my brain not to think it’s a pc, something I 
had to explain to my kid. 

How do I get to what I think of as the start menu, I want to getto the place 
where I see all the icons and haven’t figured out how to do it. Tab and alt tab 
work like I’m used to. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
joseph hudson
Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 4:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: macbook

 

Hello, arrow keys won't work how you're expecting them to work. And places 
where you find them not working, turn on quick navigation by pressing the left 
and right arrows together. Then you can use the up-and-down arrows, or the left 
and right arrows to navigate whatever you're wanting to navigate. I hope this 
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My kid got one and I want to learn how to use it. Speciffically, the arrow keys 
that normally work on a pc don’t work when reading on the mac. What does? I’d 
like to read line by line with the ability to look at words and charactors like 
I do with my pc. 

I love my IPhone now I’m trying to get smart with the macbook. 

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RE: doing signatures on iPad when signing up something or ensure thing

[Star Gazer]

Exacctly this, I've had the same issue and I don't know 
why I can't do it with voiceover, I don't need to see it, I just need to be in 
the right place so I can then submit, the machine doesn't need to know or care, 
and there's no reason voiceover can't be made to work with this. Major pain in 
the behind. 
Anybody submitted this to Apple? And, thank you too on a personal level, I had 
this issue all the time with my kid's preschool and NFB told me I had to "learn 
to do it" and I didn't think that was doable. School was wonderful, NFB 
absolutely useless when I called to ask how to solve this problem or if they 
wanted to talk to Apple and maybe even litigate. Nope. 


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Subject: RE: doing signatures on iPad when signing up something or ensure thing

Even on my phone, the second one was hard, as I needed to do it for a job app. 
The trackpad on the computer method wouldn't go because you can't get focus to 
the box you are supposed to sign. I ended up doing explore by touch, tapping 
the power button three times to turn VO off and then tried to draw my 
signature, which probably came out worse than ever, but it let me submit. I 
really don't know a great accommodation for something like this, especially if 
one ever has to do mouse signing which really doesn't work. I hate to be one of 
the bearers of bad news, but something like DocuSign should work, but the ones 
where you need to physically sign like UPS or FedEx do these days is hard at 
best without help.


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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: doing signatures on IPad when signing up something or ensuren thing

Got it! Thanks.  
Ming
Skype: chungchiming9950


> Sieghard Weitzel 於2023年12月8日 上午2:08寫道：
> 
> You have to be a lot more specific than this. If you are talking about 
> signing digital documents where something like DocuSign is used then yes, 
> it's usually fine.
> If you think you can simply sign your name on the touch screen on a PDF 
> document or anything like that then no, that is not possible.
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2023 7:13 AM
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> Subject: doing signatures on IPad when signing up something or ensuren thing
> 
> hey! all,
> when doing or signing signatures,
> can we do it with voice over when using IPad?
> or can it turn on voice over to do it?
> 
> 
> Ming
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RE: App to see power light?

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I'm so sorry, Kim. You've gotten some good suggestions. 
One thing I do is tto look at my phone and computer, if both are out, it's 
wifi. Same for Alexa, if all my stuff stops working at the same time, then I 
know it's the internet, not the device. 
You can also just assume the light is showing "bad" and tell the people on the 
phone if you call them that it's red or whatever color, or they think they care 
about that day. 


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Hi Kimberly, this is Mike from Oklahoma. I would like to offer you my 
condolences for your loss. I know that Hass to be hard for you. I am willing to 
talk to you off the list if you would feel comfortable with that feel free to 
send me an email off list if you feel comfortable talking to me. Again, sorry 
for your loss. I’d like to offer my condolences to you. Everybody that has made 
suggestions is probably right probably be my eyes would be the best option for 
you because it offers some things you can do to get help with knowing if power 
and lights are on and what color they are.
Take care,
Michael. 

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> Hello,
> 
> My husband recently died so I no longer have sighted help.  Sometimes my 
> internet goes down or I think it has.  I’m looking for an app that will 
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RE: macbook

[Star Gazer]

Thanks. What about the notification screen and the control center? I’ll get 
this figured out. 

 

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Subject: Re: macbook

 

Try shift control option D.

 





On Dec 7, 2023, at 4:38 AM, Star Gazer mailto:pickrellrebe...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

It does. Hardest part is getting my brain not to think it’s a pc, something I 
had to explain to my kid. 

How do I get to what I think of as the start menu, I want to getto the place 
where I see all the icons and haven’t figured out how to do it. Tab and alt tab 
work like I’m used to. 

 

 

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Hello, arrow keys won't work how you're expecting them to work. And places 
where you find them not working, turn on quick navigation by pressing the left 
and right arrows together. Then you can use the up-and-down arrows, or the left 
and right arrows to navigate whatever you're wanting to navigate. I hope this 
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My kid got one and I want to learn how to use it. Speciffically, the arrow keys 
that normally work on a pc don’t work when reading on the mac. What does? I’d 
like to read line by line with the ability to look at words and charactors like 
I do with my pc. 

I love my IPhone now I’m trying to get smart with the macbook. 

Any ideas?

 

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RE: macbook

[Star Gazer]

It does. Hardest part is getting my brain not to think it’s a pc, something I 
had to explain to my kid. 

How do I get to what I think of as the start menu, I want to getto the place 
where I see all the icons and haven’t figured out how to do it. Tab and alt tab 
work like I’m used to. 

 

 

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hudson
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Hello, arrow keys won't work how you're expecting them to work. And places 
where you find them not working, turn on quick navigation by pressing the left 
and right arrows together. Then you can use the up-and-down arrows, or the left 
and right arrows to navigate whatever you're wanting to navigate. I hope this 
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My kid got one and I want to learn how to use it. Speciffically, the arrow keys 
that normally work on a pc don’t work when reading on the mac. What does? I’d 
like to read line by line with the ability to look at words and charactors like 
I do with my pc. 

I love my IPhone now I’m trying to get smart with the macbook. 

Any ideas?

 

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macbook

[Star Gazer]

My kid got one and I want to learn how to use it. Speciffically, the arrow
keys that normally work on a pc don't work when reading on the mac. What
does? I'd like to read line by line with the ability to look at words and
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RE: ai and pictures

[Star Gazer]

S is excellent, Richard 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2023 3:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ai and pictures

 

If you want text recognition from pictures, then Seeing AI does a nice job and 
it is also free.

I’ve not tried PrizmoGo for text in pictures but I know also VDScan, formerly 
Voice Dream Scanner can do that as well, but it is a paid app.

 

 

 

 

 

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Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 

JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

 

 

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Gazer
Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2023 12:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: ai and pictures

 

By my eyes won’t read curse words which annoys me greatly, I’m not a child. I 
think what I’m looking for is text detection. My phone read one package real 
well, not so well on another but I did get it figured out, so I think I’m 
asking folks what all is out there? 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2023 3:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: ai and pictures

 

Be My Eyes is the best.

I’ve not found anything close.

 

 

 

 

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on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

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So I know by my eyes can describe pictures, anybody else? Sometimes the phone 
can do it but it isn’t consistent taking into account type of image and the 
like. 

So folks what all is out there? 

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RE: ai and pictures

[Star Gazer]

By my eyes won’t read curse words which annoys me greatly, I’m not a child. I 
think what I’m looking for is text detection. My phone read one package real 
well, not so well on another but I did get it figured out, so I think I’m 
asking folks what all is out there? 

 

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Turner
Sent: Tuesday, December 5, 2023 3:21 PM
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Subject: RE: ai and pictures

 

Be My Eyes is the best.

I’ve not found anything close.

 

 

 

 

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ai and pictures

[Star Gazer]

So I know by my eyes can describe pictures, anybody else? Sometimes the
phone can do it but it isn't consistent taking into account type of image
and the like. 

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RE: One Question to Paramount Plus Subscribers

[Star Gazer]

To be fair, we've got more content and more varieties of it, 
plus it's basic marketing principles, if you can easily get it (and I'm real 
glad we can) it becomes less talked about 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Sunday, November 5, 2023 6:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: One Question to Paramount Plus Subscribers

To be clear,  I was responding to the app accessibility aspect of the question. 
It's funny. For so long all we wanted was more audio description. Now that it's 
everywhere, I find myself less and less interested in watching TV or even the 
movies. 

 
-Original Message-
From: Cristóbal Muñoz  
Sent: Sunday, November 5, 2023 2:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: One Question to Paramount Plus Subscribers

Haven't use it in a long time, but can't you also just access Paramount Plus 
and other streaming services via the Apple TV app on your device? 

Cristóbal

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 5, 2023 2:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: One Question to Paramount Plus Subscribers

Mark, you write:
I will not be impress by this so-called new AI generation until it, AI that is, 
can be used to provide audio description to those of us who are blind or low 
vision, on the fly.

If that happens it would of course be absolutely amazing, but not to be 
impressed by it now probably means you have not use the Be My AI feature in the 
Be My Eyes app. I am also somebody who is not all that easily impressed any 
more, but every time I request a description of a photo on my iPhone or one I 
just took, I am impressed all over again and I can't wait until it's possible 
to submit short videos using Be My AI which hopefully will be possible at some 
point.

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, November 5, 2023 1:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: One Question to Paramount Plus Subscribers

Hello All,

Okay, I just want to make certain that the Paramount Plus app for iOS / iPad / 
Apple TV is still accessible with the audio description feature, as of today, 
in iOS 17 and its associated operating systems.

I purchased the first episode of Star Trek, Picard, on Prime Video, today, and 
was surprised at how compelling the first episode was.  I did not think it 
would be as good as the big 4, if you know what I mean; but I was pleasantly 
surprised.

Despite the fact that Prime listed the series as having an AD track, the first 
EP, does not; at least it does not have one in Prime.

And you can forget about an AD track in iTunes.  So disappointed.  

I know that a while ago, a list member informed us that Apple does not offer 
the AD track for Picard but I was hoping that this would change, alas, it has 
not.

Even though I enjoyed watching the first EP of Picard, without AD, I know I 
will enjoy the series, more completely, with AD.

So, as kind of an early Christmas gift to myself, I have decided to subscribe 
to Paramount Plus, at least until I have seen all of Picard.  

Of course I can and will sign up for the 7-day free trial but I don't want to 
provide info to yet another company unless I am reasonably certain that it will 
provide the expected service.

It's really quite sad that, even in late 2023, audio description is so scarcely 
available.

If you will allow me to wax philosophically for a moment:  
I will not be impress by this so-called new AI generation until it, AI that is, 
can be used to provide audio description to those of us who are blind or low 
vision, on the fly.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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RE: One Question to Paramount Plus Subscribers

[Star Gazer]

Hmm, do you have to turn on audio description or will it start 
doing it automatically? 

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From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, November 6, 2023 1:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: One Question to Paramount Plus Subscribers

Hello All,

Okay, as it turns out, only the first episode of Star Trek, Picard, has all of 
the audio, when AD is enabled, incorrectly shunted to the left speaker.

Subsequent episodes and other AD enabled content plays all of the audio, 
including the AD track, in stereo., as expected.

For those who may be interested, I have the Paramount Plus iPAD / iOS and Apple 
TV app working perfectly.

I created my account, via Safari web browser and selected the annual 
subscription which includes Paramount Plus essentials and ShowTime without ads 
for $119.

I do have the 7-day trial period so, I can cancel at anytime during the next 7 
days but will not do so as there is a lot of content that I look forward to 
enjoying during the next 12 months.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, November 5, 2023 7:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: One Question to Paramount Plus Subscribers

Hello Jody, et al,

Okay, I just started playing the first episode of Star Trek, Picard, in the 
Paramount app on my iPad and when AD is enabled, all of the audio plays through 
the left earpod, only.  

Is there a fix for this?

Why must these things be so difficult?

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jody 
ianuzzi
Sent: Sunday, November 5, 2023 3:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: One Question to Paramount Plus Subscribers

I Lyssin to Picard on the Paramount Plus app on my iPhone. The audio 
description is available. Do you have to turn it on in every episode in the 
upper right hand corner of the screen.

The third season is the best! And if you have Paramount+ you can also watch 
strange new worlds which is even better!

JODY


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On Nov 5, 2023, at 4:55 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
Hello All,

Okay, I just want to make certain that the Paramount Plus app for iOS / iPad / 
Apple TV is still accessible with the audio description feature, as of today, 
in iOS 17 and its associated operating systems.

I purchased the first episode of Star Trek, Picard, on Prime Video, today, and 
was surprised at how compelling the first episode was.  I did not think it 
would be as good as the big 4, if you know what I mean; but I was pleasantly 
surprised.

Despite the fact that Prime listed the series as having an AD track, the first 
EP, does not; at least it does not have one in Prime.

And you can forget about an AD track in iTunes.  So disappointed.  

I know that a while ago, a list member informed us that Apple does not offer 
the AD track for Picard but I was hoping that this would change, alas, it has 
not.

Even though I enjoyed watching the first EP of Picard, without AD, I know I 
will enjoy the series, more completely, with AD.

So, as kind of an early Christmas gift to myself, I have decided to subscribe 
to Paramount Plus, at least until I have seen all of Picard.  

Of course I can and will sign up for the 7-day free trial but I don't want to 
provide info to yet another company unless I am reasonably certain that it will 
provide the expected service.

It's really quite sad that, even in late 2023, audio description is so scarcely 
available.

If you will allow me to wax philosophically for a moment:  
I will not be impress by this so-called new AI generation until it, AI that is, 
can be used to provide audio description to those of us who are blind or low 
vision, on the fly.

All replies greatly appreciated.

Mark


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RE: IOS17.1 first impressions: language rotor missing, Notifications fixed

[Star Gazer]

So glad this got fixed and also thank you for the tip 
re the language app 

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Corripio
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2023 5:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS17.1 first impressions: language rotor missing, Notifications 
fixed

Remember the glitch withinthe Weather app, that when you swipe by hour, the 
focus would jump to the top, and switch to the next city? This is now fixed!''
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

> El 25 oct 2023, a la(s) 2:35 p.m., davycupp...@gmail.com escribió:
> 
> Invoke siri and the lower tone does nolonger show up. Maybe this is meant 
> tob e, I will not complain about this.
> Davy
> 
> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Gerardo 
> Corripio
> Verzonden: woensdag 25 oktober 2023 21:34
> Aan: iPhone List 
> Onderwerp: IOS17.1 first impressions: language rotor missing, Notifications 
> fixed
> 
> Just updated both my IPHone and IPad to 17.1, and it’s so weird what I’m 
> going to say: the Language rotor option isn’t there! On both my IPHone and 
> IPad, I had to head on over to voiceOver rotor options, with the surprise 
> that the Language option wasn’t checked! Thus upon checking it once again, it 
> shows up as it should. So just so that you’ll can aware of this little 
> annoyance.
> What I’m loving the iOS17.1, though, is that apparently the VoiceOver 
> Notification reading bug is fixed! I tested this by going into 
> voiceOver/Verbosity/System Notifications, and within the Blocked Screen 
> section of the Settings, checked “Don’t do Nothing”, and yes it worked! 
> VoiceOver was speechless (not even the time as  did with the 17.0 cycle), of 
> which I’m very happy! This is what I’d been expecting all along! What makes 
> me happier is that I no longer have to turn off teh speech as before!
> Oh and the update is sort of big! On my th Generation IPad it was around 
> 900MB, and on this IPHone se 2nd Generation, the 17.1 updated cloked just a 
> it over a GB”!Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
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RE: Amazon music app and my podcasts

[Star Gazer]

The reason I care so much about Amazon music is we have prime or unlimited 
music or whatever and with that we get podcasts without adds and some podcasts 
aren’t on other platforms like the remaining eppisodes of The Mystrious Mr 
Epstine. It seems that I’m tied to the Amazon Music app if I want some of these 
podcasts and I do does anybody know if I am correct and who I might talk to at 
Amazon?  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2023 5:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Amazon music app and my podcasts

 

I personally really like the interface of Overcast. The only way to know if 
those podcasts are available to other apps is to look them up in another app. 

My guess is, they will end up being exclusive to Amazon, but no way of knowing 
without the title.

 

Richard, USA 

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On Oct 5, 2023, at 2:40 PM, Feliciano Godoy mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

 Yes, you can use another app unless that podcast is exclusive for Amazon 
Music users. 

Downcast is paid, but well worth it. I like it user interface and intuitiveness 
compared to overcast. Yes, you can use another app unless that podcast is 
exclusive for Amazon Music us

Feliciano 

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On Oct 5, 2023, at 2:36 PM, Star Gazer mailto:pickrellrebe...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 I want to use Amazon music so I can access the free podcasts, can this be 
done via another app 

Sent from my iPhone





On Oct 5, 2023, at 5:27 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:

Or, Overcast, which is free. I think Downcast is paid, is that right?  

 

 

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On Oct 5, 2023, at 1:43 PM, Feliciano Godoy mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi,

I’m not familiar with podcasts with amazon music. However, the recent updates 
did break accessibility for me as a music listener with amazon music.

 

A great podcatcher to consider that I use is DownCast for iOS. DownCast is 
aware of voiceover and it’s users and assures to make it accessible. It’s also 
very robust and intuitive.

 

Feliciano 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Thursday, October 5, 2023 1:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Amazon music app and my podcasts

 

Hi everybody. So my list of followed podcasts isn’t showing up when I use 
voiceover but the people with working eyeballs I live with say the podcasts are 
listed.. just not when I use voiceover which I obviously need to do. Any fix? 
Screen recogonization doesn’t seem to do anything 

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Re: Amazon music app and my podcasts

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I want to use Amazon music so I can access the free podcasts, can this be done via another app Sent from my iPhoneOn Oct 5, 2023, at 5:27 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:Or, Overcast, which is free. I think Downcast is paid, is that right? Richard, USA ——"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley(Sent from my iPhone)On Oct 5, 2023, at 1:43 PM, Feliciano Godoy  wrote:







Hi,
I’m not familiar with podcasts with amazon music. However, the recent updates did break accessibility for me as a music listener with amazon music.
 
A great podcatcher to consider that I use is DownCast for iOS. DownCast is aware of voiceover and it’s users and assures to make it accessible. It’s also very robust and intuitive.
 
Feliciano 
 


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Hi everybody. So my list of followed podcasts isn’t showing up when I use voiceover but the people with working eyeballs I live with say the podcasts are listed.. just not when I use voiceover which I obviously need to do. Any fix? Screen
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Hi everybody. So my list of followed podcasts isn't showing up when I use
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RE: Another example of Be My AI

[Star Gazer]

Downloading right now 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2023 2:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Another example of Be My AI

 

Mad Honey just took a very interesting turn which I certainly didn't expect and 
it introduces a totally new and very controversial topic which is of course 
what Jodi Picoult does best.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 2:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Another example of Be My AI

 

Hi Sieghard, 

 

Rolling on the floor laughing with you. I'd bye your book. 

 

I haven't read Mad Honey by Jodi Picoult but I've read several of her other 
books. Right now, I'm still recovering from reading Holly, Stephen King's 
latest. 

 

Alan 

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Sep 25, 2023, at 3:18 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

Hi Alan,

 

Hmm, maybe I should write a book consisting of Be My AI desdcription and my 
intelligent comments 藍

If you don't like your current book, try "Mad Honey" by Jodi Picoult, just 
listening to it from Audible and it's very good as are all of her books.

If you want something she wrote which is a bit more controversial, try "Small 
Great Things" or "The Storyteller" or "Nineteen Minutes".

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 12:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Another example of Be My AI

 

Sieghard, 

 

Please keep your Be My AI descriptions coming. I find them more enjoyable than 
the audiobook I'm currently reading. 

 

Alan Lemly 

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Sep 25, 2023, at 2:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

Here is one more example of a Be My AI description. I took the picture first 
with my Camera app as I wanted to send this to a few sighted friends and 
include the picture along with the description Be My AI provided so I took the 
picture, then tapped on "Share" and selected "Describe with Be My AI".

The picture is taken from our bedroom window through the window glass. What you 
see is our backyard which has some lawn as well as a few still smaller fruit 
trees on the right and on the left some raised garden beds where we grow stuff 
like beans, peas, herbs, cauliflower, broccoli, strawbeerries, onions, kolrabi 
and so on. Of course it is fall in northern BC so all of this is mostly done 
except that we still have some parsly, peppermint, jives and so on in one 
raised bed, but it's off the picture. We also have an 8 by 8 foot greenhouse 
for tomatos, cucumbers, early and late lettuce and some herbs like basil, 
rosemary and so on which in our climate do better there than outdoors. Anyways, 
here is the description:

 

The picture shows a serene outdoor setting. In the foreground, there is a lush 
green lawn with a few scattered leaves. On the right side are some small trees 
and on the left side, there is a small greenhouse with a glass structure and a 
wooden base. Next to the greenhouse, there is a raised wooden garden bed with 
some plants. A green hose is snaking across the lawn. 

In the middle ground, there is a wooden fence with a black tarp draped over 
part of it. Behind the fence, there is a large, freshly tilled field that 
appears to be ready for planting. 

In the background, there are tall trees with leaves in shades of gold and 
green, indicating that it might be autumn. Beyond the trees, there are a few 
houses and structures. In the far distance, there are majestic mountains 
partially obscured by clouds. The sky above is overcast.

 

One thing I would possibly question a little is the "lush" description in 
connection with our lawn. It is relatively green, but we had a super dry summer 
and due to water restrictions were not allowed to water the lawn so while now 
we have more moisture at night due to humidity and temperatures in the mid 
30's, it's green, but I wouldn't call it "lush".

The description of the greenhouse is spot on, it is probably 50 feet away and 
the "wpooden base" did surprise me, but it is indeed built on 16-inch tall and 
6 inch wide fir timbers which I did to make it not so low. What the description 
didn't get is that it is sitting on a concrete pad.

The fence description is also correct, in fact I took one other picture before 
this one and in that it even said that the fence appears to be new which is not 
incorrect since it's made from cedar and I build it just last fall so the wood 
still looks fairly fresh.

The bit about the tarp is also right on. I am still working on building a 
double gate for the 10 foot opening in the fence and for now I put a long 

RE: Another example of Be My AI

[Star Gazer]

I like both Picoult and King so 
thank you for these book recommendations 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 4:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Another example of Be My AI

 

Hi Alan,

 

Hmm, maybe I should write a book consisting of Be My AI desdcription and my 
intelligent comments 藍

If you don't like your current book, try "Mad Honey" by Jodi Picoult, just 
listening to it from Audible and it's very good as are all of her books.

If you want something she wrote which is a bit more controversial, try "Small 
Great Things" or "The Storyteller" or "Nineteen Minutes".

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 12:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Another example of Be My AI

 

Sieghard, 

 

Please keep your Be My AI descriptions coming. I find them more enjoyable than 
the audiobook I'm currently reading. 

 

Alan Lemly 

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Sep 25, 2023, at 2:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

Here is one more example of a Be My AI description. I took the picture first 
with my Camera app as I wanted to send this to a few sighted friends and 
include the picture along with the description Be My AI provided so I took the 
picture, then tapped on "Share" and selected "Describe with Be My AI".

The picture is taken from our bedroom window through the window glass. What you 
see is our backyard which has some lawn as well as a few still smaller fruit 
trees on the right and on the left some raised garden beds where we grow stuff 
like beans, peas, herbs, cauliflower, broccoli, strawbeerries, onions, kolrabi 
and so on. Of course it is fall in northern BC so all of this is mostly done 
except that we still have some parsly, peppermint, jives and so on in one 
raised bed, but it's off the picture. We also have an 8 by 8 foot greenhouse 
for tomatos, cucumbers, early and late lettuce and some herbs like basil, 
rosemary and so on which in our climate do better there than outdoors. Anyways, 
here is the description:

 

The picture shows a serene outdoor setting. In the foreground, there is a lush 
green lawn with a few scattered leaves. On the right side are some small trees 
and on the left side, there is a small greenhouse with a glass structure and a 
wooden base. Next to the greenhouse, there is a raised wooden garden bed with 
some plants. A green hose is snaking across the lawn. 

In the middle ground, there is a wooden fence with a black tarp draped over 
part of it. Behind the fence, there is a large, freshly tilled field that 
appears to be ready for planting. 

In the background, there are tall trees with leaves in shades of gold and 
green, indicating that it might be autumn. Beyond the trees, there are a few 
houses and structures. In the far distance, there are majestic mountains 
partially obscured by clouds. The sky above is overcast.

 

One thing I would possibly question a little is the "lush" description in 
connection with our lawn. It is relatively green, but we had a super dry summer 
and due to water restrictions were not allowed to water the lawn so while now 
we have more moisture at night due to humidity and temperatures in the mid 
30's, it's green, but I wouldn't call it "lush".

The description of the greenhouse is spot on, it is probably 50 feet away and 
the "wpooden base" did surprise me, but it is indeed built on 16-inch tall and 
6 inch wide fir timbers which I did to make it not so low. What the description 
didn't get is that it is sitting on a concrete pad.

The fence description is also correct, in fact I took one other picture before 
this one and in that it even said that the fence appears to be new which is not 
incorrect since it's made from cedar and I build it just last fall so the wood 
still looks fairly fresh.

The bit about the tarp is also right on. I am still working on building a 
double gate for the 10 foot opening in the fence and for now I put a long board 
across the two posts and hung a tarp over that because behind our property is 
an approx. 3 or 4 acre open field which belongs to a school just a few houses 
down from us and they are currently in the process of establishing a soccre 
field and green area around that.

Because of that large open space and the fact that due to the drought there are 
hardly any berries in the mountains, we have a lot of black bears in town this 
fall and while we just picked the rest of our apples yesterday, I don't want 
them in the yard if possible. The tarp russles and crackles a bit when it's 
windy which seems to work quite well to keep them out. Just in the past 3 days 
our Ring doorbell camera captured one nice black bear walking across our 
driveway in front of the house and a 

RE: Be my AI and pictures?

[Star Gazer]

Agree totally 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 5:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be my AI and pictures?

 

There is some reason to be upset. As users, we should all be able to use our 
best judgment about whether or not to show images of people. The developer 
decision to restrict the information we receive from the app seems 
paternalistic and condescending.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
William James
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2023 1:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Be my AI and pictures?

 

It was professional in its response.  Yeah, true, I was nasty with it but it’s 
AI so it has no feelings.  Hahaha!  I’m normally a nice guy but sometimes I’m 
not and it shows as I age.

 

 

Get Outlook for iOS  

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of 
CHELA Robles mailto:cdrobles...@gmail.com> >
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2023 7:11:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   

Subject: Re: Be my AI and pictures? 

 

Regarding the cupcakes and you’ve been nasty with being AI. I’m wondering what 
its response was after your nasty response to it. W Was it be nice? Lol!

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Sep 16, 2023, at 11:29 AM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com 
  wrote:

 

Ugg.

I took a picture of granola bars and stevia. Said faces in pictures. I closed 
and re-opened the app and fictures worked.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
William James
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2023 1:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Be my AI and pictures?

 

There is apparently a Slack group for Be My AI but it is closed.  I wish it was 
open for us to peruse and report issues.

 

 

I’ll give you an example.

 

I took a picture of a box of cupcakes.  It told me there were faces and it 
could not tell me what it was.  I wasn’t too kind in my response.  I told it 
that this is a goddamn picture of food and to do better!

 

Get Outlook for iOS  

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of 
Malcolm Parfitt mailto:malc...@parfitt1.org.uk> >
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2023 1:58:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: Be my AI and pictures? 

 

Hello,

 

There is quite a discussion about this on AppleVis.

 

The strange thing is that last week it began to describe photos and then 
stopped again.  Bing also will not describe photos so I think it is something 
to do with Open AI themselves.

 

I hope they can resolve it is it is an outstanding service quite unlike 
anything we’ve ever known!

 

Couple this with the fact that it is free it truly puts apps like SuperSense to 
shame!

 

Take a look at:

 

 

 



 

 Introducing Be My Eyes' Virtual Volunteer: A Demonstration of Some Game 
Changing Real-World Use Cases

 

 applevis.com

 

 

 

 

Malcolm Parfitt

 

On 16 Sep 2023, at 17:46, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:

I took a picture of myself and it gave a basic descrription of an elderly man 
with a white beard and mustache,  which is accurate. However, taking a picture 
of my wife, and she taking a picture of me, gave the blocked message, so I 
wrote to complain about that. 


Richard, USA 
——
"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley
(Sent from my iPhone)

On Sep 16, 2023, at 8:00 AM, CHELA Robles mailto:cdrobles...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I’m getting the same thing and will report that to the support team.

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Sep 16, 2023, at 7:50 AM, 'Jerry Mader' via VIPhone 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 

sorry guys. I was dictating boring is supposed to be bummed lol. Let me 
rewrite this email address for you because it didn't show up properly the last 
time. Here is the email address again to write into.

supp...@bemyeyes.com  

 

On Sep 16, 2023, at 10:47 AM, Jerry Mader mailto:maderra...@icloud.com> > wrote:

 

I know it's kind of like taking away our site and then giving it back again 

RE: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS

[Star Gazer]

Is AI ready for all be my eyes 
users now? I’d like to give it a shot. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tom Lange
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 5:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS

 

it’s nice to know that faces are now included in the descriptions, as 

in:

 

The picture you've sent is a close-up of an elderly man who is smiling. He has 
a joyful expression on his face. He has grey hair and is wearing a royal blue 
shirt. The background is a plain light-colored wall with a small portion of 
what seems to be some equipment or furniture in the right corner.

 

 





On Sep 25, 2023, at 12:45 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

And I'd say it's a huge improvement over no description which is what we had 
before.

Here is what Jaws picture smart gave me for the outdoor photo I posted the 
description for:

 

This tag describes the photo

Sky.

These tags probably describe the photo

Building, Plant, Slope, Tree, Water.

These tags possibly describe the photo

Landscape, Stairs, Trunk, Urban design.

 

Pretty useless compared to what Be My AI gives you and I can definitely say 
this with confidence since I know that what Be My AI described is for the most 
part not just close but dead on and what Picture Smart gave me gives me a very 
vague indication that it's probably an outdoor shot with sky, trees, plants and 
some sort of building, not sure where the water reference comes from since 
there is no water in sight unlers to the water which one would assume is in the 
hose Be My AI described, but which Picture Smart didn't mention.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Evan 
Reese
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS

 

Well okay, it does say "cozy", but that I think is still an improvement over 
the previous description I mentioned.

Evan

 

On 9/25/2023 3:13 PM, Evan Reese wrote:

I noticed that the description did not contain any of those subjective elements 
such as "adorable" dog with "soulful" eyes or whatever that was that another 
recent poster sent over. I think that is to the good.

Evan

 

On 9/25/2023 2:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

The amount of detail you get from Be My AI when you take a picture of a photo, 
painting or even just a room is amazing.

I just randomly snapped a picture towards one side of our bedroom the other day 
and here is what Be My AI described:

 

The picture shows a cozy room with wooden flooring. On the left side, there is 
a wooden dresser with five drawers and a small TV on top of it. The wall above 
the dresser is plain with a light gray color. 

On the right side, there is a window with a white horizontal blind. The window 
has a wooden frame that matches the color of the dresser. 

In the bottom right corner, there is a wooden chair with armrests and a 
cushioned seat with a patterned fabric. There are clothes draped over the back 
of the chair. 

In the bottom center of the picture, there is a dog lying on a gray mat. The 
dog is light-colored, possibly a Labrador or a similar breed. Next to the dog, 
there is an orange toy. 

The room appears to be well-lit with natural light coming from the window.

 

All of the above is spot on including the fact that I do have a yellow, almost 
white labrador guide dog. 

The only "incorrect" description is the small TV, it is in fact my open laptop 
on top of the dresser. But I was holding the phone at about hip height when I 
was lying on my bed and the dresser is a bit higher, only the screen would be 
visible and not the keyboard.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com    
  On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 6:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS

 

Note personally identifiable information has been removed.

Subject: Be My AI soon available for Be My Eyes users on iOS

Announcing Be My AI with a screenshot of the app demonstrating Be My AI's 
describing capabilities

Hi dennis, 

 

We are thrilled to announce that Be My AI will soon be available to hundreds of 
thousands of Be My Eyes users on iOS devices worldwide! 

 

Thanks to the tremendous work of over 19,000 beta testers and the team at Be My 
Eyes, we’re moving to an open beta phase and releasing Be My AI to our

iPhone users starting this week. Over the next few weeks we will be adding more 
and more users every day, so that soon everyone using an iOS device will

have direct access to our new AI-powered feature. Make sure to keep your app 
updated. 

 

While using Be My AI is not intended to replace a 

RE: Be my eyes new service

[Star Gazer]

I think of ai like a teenager, 
can b useful and entertaining and may even be right but if it doesn’t make 
sense to me, get more data or ignore. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kellie
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2023 7:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Be my eyes new service

 

I guess to each their own. I find nothing wrong with the descriptions. I have 
the intellect to know that it is simply artificial intelligence and I can make 
up my own mind if it really means they’re happy or sad, etc. I am very happy 
with the fact that I’m getting detailed descriptions, and it makes me feel like 
I can see again. But I understand that everybody approaches us differently.

Kellie and my lovable Lady J  

Sent from my iPhone





On Sep 21, 2023, at 6:23 PM, realman02 via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:



I am disturbe dby this description. I don’t want an AI tleling me something is 
“adorable” or “ugly” or “horrible” or any subjective description.

Also. “Soulful, curious, etc” are extremely troubling. This is how I want my AI 
to handle descriptions of people, animals and things:

 

 

The picture shows two dogs sitting on a floor. The floor has dark gray tiles 
and there is a beige rug where the dogs are sitting. On the left, there is a 
black Labrador with a shiny coat. It has brown eyes and is wearing a collar 
with a tag. On the right, there is a German Shepherd puppy. It has a black coat 
with tan markings on its legs and face. The puppy has bright eyes and floppy 
ears. It is also wearing a collar with a tag. They are sitting next to each 
other and seem to be in a kitchen, as there is a glimpse of a cabinet and an 
oven in the background

Thanks  John Riehl

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Alison May
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2023 6:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Be my eyes new service

 

I asked if this app could also describe photos on my iPhone and followed the 
directions given. I am absolutely amazed. Below is a description of the day. My 
current guide dog met his puppy raiser and her new pup. The details really 
bring the picture alive.

 

The picture shows two adorable dogs sitting on a floor. The floor has dark gray 
tiles and there is a beige rug where the dogs are sitting. On the left, there 
is a black Labrador with a shiny coat. It has soulful brown eyes and is wearing 
a collar with a tag. On the right, there is a German Shepherd puppy. It has a 
black coat with tan markings on its legs and face. The puppy has bright, 
curious eyes and floppy ears. It is also wearing a collar with a tag. They are 
sitting next to each other and seem to be in a kitchen, as there is a glimpse 
of a cabinet and an oven in the background

Sent from my iPhone by Alison may

0777 315 8181






On 21 Sep 2023, at 10:17 pm, Feliciano Godoy mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi,

The email is actually accessibil...@apple.com  

 

Considering the matter, I believe you're better off Colleen Apple.

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On Sep 21, 2023, at 1:31 PM, Paula Pinder mailto:pinder.pa...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I'vbe tried all that. I've written to disabil...@apple.com 
  so hopefully they will reply. Thanks for your 
suggestions.

 

Best wishes

 

Paula

 

Sent from Samsung Mobile on O2
Sent from Outlook for Android  

  _  

From: Paula Pinder mailto:pinder.pa...@gmail.com> >
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2023 2:29:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE 

 

Thanks all for your messages.

 

I can't go back to IOS as my iPhone has stopped talking and I have tried 
everything everyone suggested.

 

Best wishes

 

Paula

 

Sent from Samsung Mobile on O2
Sent from Outlook for Android  

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of 
Dennis Long mailto:dennisl1...@gmail.com> >
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2023 2:23:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
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Subject: RE: IPHONE UPDATE BROKEN MY PHONE 

 

First this isn’t an android list.Second I would just switch back to iOS.  
You wouldn’t have this problem on iOS.  You can attempt contacting 

RE: Very impressed with Eloquence on my iPhone.

[Star Gazer]

Thank you. This is for an 
Iphone and these instructions look like windows 

 

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leobado1...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 4:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Very impressed with Eloquence on my iPhone.

 

Hi, I assume you want to modify the Jaws Eloquence.

 

You may want to carry out all the process by using a vocalizer voice instead of 
Eloquence.

 

First of all,  copy and paste the file that contains the values in a safe 
location, so that you can use it as a backup in any given scenario. Go to the 
following path:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Freedom Scientific\Shared\Eloquence\6.1

 

Now copy the file “ECI.INI” and put it in a safe location. Notice that in this 
folder there are two files with the same name, so make sure you’re saving the 
right file .ini.

 

Now, to modify the values contained in ECI.INI you have to launch notepad as an 
administrator, press control plus O to open a file in Notepad, and locate 
ECI.INI in the explorer.  After pushing control plus O though, make sure to 
change to “all files” the type of file extensions  that you can open with 
Notepad, otherwise you won’t be able to locate ECI.INI.

 

Once Notepad opened ECI.INI, push control plus F, and type “enu.syn” without 
any quotes,  and hit enter. Now push escape to close the dialogue.  The focus 
of the cursor should have landed on the language-specific parameters for 
Eloquence, which in this case is English United States. For English UK, you 
should locate the following string:

“eng.syn”

 

Now hit the home key  to get you to the beginning of the line, and start 
arrowing down until you find a similar line to  this one:

Voice1=0 50 65 30 0 0 50 92

 

These are actually the values you should modify to change the voice. Notice 
that after the = sign there are 8 values separated by a blank space. Those 
values correspond  respectively to:

Gender

HeadSize

PitchBaseLine

Pitch Fluctuation

Roughness

Breathiness

Speed

Volume

 

All of them scale from 0 to 100 except for gender. In this case you use 0 for 
male and 1 for female.

Now, for some reason changes has never a real effect on speed and volume, so I 
believe that Jaws is simply overwriting those parameters no matter what you do, 
but for what it’s worth, modifying the other parameters do have a real effect.

 

After performing any change, don’t forget to save the document.

 

You will also notice that there are 8 voices under each language specific 
setting, (e.g., voice2, voice3, etc.(.  Those alias  correspond respectively to 
 Reed, Shelly, Bobby, Rocko, Glen, Sandy, Grandma and Grandpa. So,  when you 
modify voice1, you’re really modifying Reed and so on and so forth.  Since I 
always want to have Reed  using the default values, but I also wanted to 
introduce modifications to use a customized voice to read, I modified Voice4, 
namely Rocko, an saved the changes. Then, I created a new voice profile based 
on Eloquence, and chose Rocko to be used in all contexts, PC, Jaws cursor, 
keyboard, etc.  In this way I can have these other profiles and always come 
back to Eloquence using the Reed voice by default.

 

Best,

Leo Bado

 

"Do not take life too seriously. You will never get out of it alive."

Elbert Hubbard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 1:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Very impressed with Eloquence on my iPhone.

 

Ow do you 
adjust the quality of the sound on the JAWS voices? 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
matthew dyer
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 2:40 PM
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Subject: Re: Very impressed with Eloquence on my iPhone.

 

Hi, 

 

I am also using it on my iPad mini and with the ability to adjust the quality 
of the sound you can make it sound more anhanced.

 

Matthew

 

 

 

On Sep 19, 2023, at 7:46 PM, Kevin Minor mailto:kmino...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Hi.

 

Last year I tried Eloquence on my iPhone. It sounded like it was 
overmodulating, and lowering the volume didn’t fix it. In iOS 17, this seems to 
be fixed. I’m happy about this, and am using it as my voice of choice.

 

Just sharing my good thing for the day.

 

Kevin and Jilly

 

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RE: Roder

[Star Gazer]

Thank you guys 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of John 
Panarese
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2023 1:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Roder

 

   It’s in VoiceOver Settings under the Rotor section. You can select or 
deselect items.

 


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How do I add things to the roder? I have done it before but can’t seem to do it 
now 
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RE: Very impressed with Eloquence on my iPhone.

[Star Gazer]

Ow do you 
adjust the quality of the sound on the JAWS voices? 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of matthew 
dyer
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Subject: Re: Very impressed with Eloquence on my iPhone.

 

Hi, 

 

I am also using it on my iPad mini and with the ability to adjust the quality 
of the sound you can make it sound more anhanced.

 

Matthew

 

 





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Hi.

 

Last year I tried Eloquence on my iPhone. It sounded like it was 
overmodulating, and lowering the volume didn’t fix it. In iOS 17, this seems to 
be fixed. I’m happy about this, and am using it as my voice of choice.

 

Just sharing my good thing for the day.

 

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Roder

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How do I add things to the roder? I have done it before but can’t seem to do it 
now 
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RE: Voiceover Bug with Native Mail App I encountered

[Star Gazer]

I also noticed that when you share something like a web 
page the iphone suggests people like aways but in ios 16 it would give a phone 
number or email address, now it just reads names. Annoying and does anybody 
know how to fix? 

-Original Message-
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Robles
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voiceover Bug with Native Mail App I encountered

Running IOS17 on the regular 14 model, when flicking down say from a message in 
a list of messages that are not unread will give you a choice of marking it as 
read as usually does, no problem there but when I for instance say activate 
that option, voiceover, instead doesn't read it as "read" instead it sounds 
like a few Consonants like the letter R, the letter S, the letter, T, the 
letter D, for example altogether instead of the word read. Not sure if you are 
all experienceing this as well but try flicking dow on an unread message just 
for fun, and when it says mark as read, double tap and take note of how it 
sounds. It doesn’t matter what voice you use by the way I’ve used to them all 
in this test and can confirm it sounds very strange to hear, irdst at least 
this is the closest I could come to creating how it sounded to me, but anyway, 
just thought I’d let you know.
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RE: VoiceOver and iOS 17

[Star Gazer]

And do we get new voices or any improvements?

-Original Message-
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: VoiceOver and iOS 17

Hi,
Can anybody running the release candidate of iOS 17 confirmb the in the last 
few minutes of the following video telling that VoiceOver is broken in iOS 17 
RC?

info 

Sendt fra min iPhone.

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RE: Be My Eyes AI

[Star Gazer]

Where do I get this? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Peter 
Logan
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2023 5:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Be My Eyes AI

I am super amazed at how well it works ..  I've used it for a ton of things .. 
went back through a bunch of photos on my phone .. and was amazed at how well 
it did.  They have done a great job on this!


-Original Message-
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Doc Wright
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Subject: Re: Be My Eyes AI

I have used it to go through groceries that just came in;.
- Original Message - 
From: "Richard Turner" 
To: "ViPone list" 
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2023 11:10 AM
Subject: Be My Eyes AI


Here is an example of the Be My Eyes AI description of a t-shirt that I 
have. I'll be using this app for clothing from now on.

T-shirt was just laying across my lap. So I didn't get a full view.
The picture shows a turquoise fabric, possibly a piece of clothing, with a 
colorful design on it. The design includes a yellow surfboard with the words 
"Hard Dock CAFE" written in red. The surfboard is adorned with flowers in 
various colors such as pink, red, purple, and yellow. There is also a white 
rope-like design that circles around the surfboard. Below the surfboard, 
there are words that are partially visible, which seem to say "Jones Valley 
Resort Shasta Lake".


Richard, USA
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RE: New Ring Tones

[Star Gazer]

Thank you. If we get new ios voices can you demo those 

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Doc Wright
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 9:22 PM
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Here is a recording I made today.

http://www.wrighthere.net/iOS17_New_RingTones.mp3

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Hi,
Is there anywhere I can hear the new ring and alert tones that will be 
available in iOS 17.
Jen

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RE: today's Apple Event

[Star Gazer]

Thank you. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 1:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Star Gazer, 

 

If your headphones have a lightning connector such as my wired Apple Earpods, 
you'll need to acquire one of the new lightning to USB C adapters now available 
at the Apple Store for $29. If your headphones have a standard 3.5mm connector, 
I'm sure numerous adapters are available at Amazon to allow connection of those 
to USB C. 

 

Alan Lemly 

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Sep 13, 2023, at 12:39 PM, Star Gazer mailto:pickrellrebe...@gmail.com> > wrote:



That’s my thinking, we’ll be charging with usbc 
v. what we do now. Does anybody know how we will plug in headphones if we don’t 
want to Bluetooth? 

 

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White
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2023 11:06 AM
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Subject: Re: today's Apple Event

 

It sounds like only USB-C is involved with this connection, so maybe a standard 
USB-C cable will do the trick; I guess we’ll find out in a week or so

Sent from my iPhone






On Sep 13, 2023, at 10:39, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hi Ryan, 

 

I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get maximum 
speeds when transferring from the 15 Pro models to connected supported devices. 
I assume they are talking about the Thunderbolt 4 (USB‑C) Pro Cable (1 m). Note 
that this cable costs an additional $69 in the Apple Store. Apple will 
certainly be maintaining their profit margins on optional cables, adapters, and 
other accessories. 

 

Alan Lemly  insertion point between  y  and, at the 431st position

 

Sent from my iPhone






On Sep 13, 2023, at 5:12 AM, Ryan Mann mailto:rm...@technologyisawesome.com> > wrote:

There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.

1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking 
a picture.

2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a 
USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.

Ryan Mann

Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist

rmann0...@gmail.com <mailto:rmann0...@gmail.com> 

386-383-5175

 






On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik mailto:wfgal...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Sieghard et al,

 

After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all 
about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if 
I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit 
I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR 
processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a 
document would help that.

 

I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will 
concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have 
doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a 
purchase.

- Bill from Northern Wisconsin
- “I think and think for months and years.”
- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
- “The hundredth time I am right.”
 Albert Einstein






On Sep 13, 2023, at 2:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

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Apple Event I would find at least 150 or 200 messages from the Viphone list 
where people discuss the latest announcement? I am really surprised that when I 
came home tonight there was not a single one!

 

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RE: today's Apple Event

[Star Gazer]

That’s my thinking, we’ll be charging with usbc 
v. what we do now. Does anybody know how we will plug in headphones if we don’t 
want to Bluetooth? 

 

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White
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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It sounds like only USB-C is involved with this connection, so maybe a standard 
USB-C cable will do the trick; I guess we’ll find out in a week or so

Sent from my iPhone





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Hi Ryan, 

 

I noted they mentioned that an optional cable would be needed to get maximum 
speeds when transferring from the 15 Pro models to connected supported devices. 
I assume they are talking about the Thunderbolt 4 (USB‑C) Pro Cable (1 m). Note 
that this cable costs an additional $69 in the Apple Store. Apple will 
certainly be maintaining their profit margins on optional cables, adapters, and 
other accessories. 

 

Alan Lemly  insertion point between  y  and, at the 431st position

 

Sent from my iPhone





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There are a couple things I like about the iPhone 15 Pro.

1. You can use the action button for things like starting a recording or taking 
a picture.

2.  There is a USBC port with USBC speeds.  It seems that you could connect a 
USBC thumb drive and get USBC speeds.

Ryan Mann

Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist

rmann0...@gmail.com  

386-383-5175

 





On Sep 13, 2023, at 4:58 AM, Bill Gallik mailto:wfgal...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Sieghard et al,

 

After listening to the event it’s very clear that much of the hubbub is all 
about visually oriented enhancements and new features.  I’m trying to decide if 
I’d prefer to get an iPhone 15 or get the iPhone 14 instead.  The only benefit 
I surmise from the 15 is the higher resolution camera to hopefully improve OCR 
processing.  But I have to wonder just how much more clear a photo of a 
document would help that.

 

I noticed there was a lot said regarding environmental issues and I will 
concede that Apple is to be commended for that effort.  I guess I just have 
doubts if the new iPhone is going to provide any benefits for justifying such a 
purchase.

- Bill from Northern Wisconsin
- “I think and think for months and years.”
- “Ninety-nine times, the conclusion is false.”
- “The hundredth time I am right.”
 Albert Einstein





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Apple Event I would find at least 150 or 200 messages from the Viphone list 
where people discuss the latest announcement? I am really surprised that when I 
came home tonight there was not a single one!

 

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RE: iOs doorbell

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We like ours, you can set it to tell you when a person is coming, though 
usually ours  picks up people just walking by which is fine with me, our street 
is quiet, and the person is coming notification also f course works for people 
actually coming to see you. We also have it set to tell us when a package has 
been left, not always accurate but we like it. Mostly I like that everything is 
recorded which is nice, real easy to prove that a package wasn't delivered, 
we've gotten some great videos of the kids, we used it once to prove to a guy 
that the contractor who swore up and down was lying, the boss kept insisiting 
his guy had been there, we kept insisting he hadn't,, and finally I sent him 
the video with the time his contractor said he was there.. but wasn't. 
Obviously, if you are totally blind you won't see who is at your door but you 
can hear whatever is going on through the microphone or audio track of the 
recording. 


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Duncan
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Thanks, this sounds perfect.

We bought one of these during prime day, just haven’t set it up. :) 

Traci


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>   We have a Ring doorbell and you can have it ring 
> through your phone and/or an Alexa. It works real well. 
> 
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> Duncan
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> Hi all, I have a couple questions, which might seem silly. Have you heard of 
> a remote doorbell? Is there anything like this that I can activate with my 
> iPhone?
> 
> I’m asking because we need to train our dog with better doorbell/visitor 
> behaviors. The tips are suggesting ringing a doorbell when there are no 
> visitors to begin associating that sound with something positive. He is new 
> to us and 10 years old. Keep your paws crossed I can do this. ;) 
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Re: Has any one updated to the newest ios 16 update

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I updated based on your post. I have a love hate relationship with the Tom 
enhanced voice and I am not sure about eloquence. Have you noticed any 
improvements ? 

Sent from my iPhone

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> The little while I've been using Eloquence, so far so good; with Eloquence 
> is where the loss of speech would happen. So let's continue to play with it, 
> and if the speech loss is indeed gone, I'll definitely put Eluquence on my 
> iPad! Right now, I've got my iPad with the Tom and Juan voices. I'm talking 
> about version 6.6.1 that came out earlier today.
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
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>> Has any one updated to the new ios 16 update. Has any one noticed that the 
>> loss of speech is gone
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RE: iOs doorbell

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We have a Ring doorbell and you can have it ring 
through your phone and/or an Alexa. It works real well. 

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Duncan
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Subject: iOs doorbell

Hi all, I have a couple questions, which might seem silly. Have you heard of a 
remote doorbell? Is there anything like this that I can activate with my iPhone?

I’m asking because we need to train our dog with better doorbell/visitor 
behaviors. The tips are suggesting ringing a doorbell when there are no 
visitors to begin associating that sound with something positive. He is new to 
us and 10 years old. Keep your paws crossed I can do this. ;) 

Thanks,
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RE: Amazon music app for iPhone broek accessibility

[Star Gazer]

S has Apple, I’ve gotten screen 
recogonization to work on Amazon music but it’s still a bear, hard to select 
eppisodes, hard to find what I’ve already subscribed to or followed, just all 
around way harder then Apple podcast and Spodify 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2023 5:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Amazon music app for iPhone broek accessibility

 

Allan,

Screen recognition doesn’t work on Amazon music app for iPhone. Labeling 
buttons works to an extent. I have tried various alternatives with no luck. 
Amazon is huge, they just need people to make noise if they want something to 
be done about it.

 

Spotify has figured it out, so it’s not rocket science.

 

I don’t include what I sent amazon because as you noted, people have different 
experiences that they need to report should they have a problem.

 

Feliciano 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2023 2:30 PM
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Subject: Re: Amazon music app for iPhone broek accessibility

 

Feliciano, 

 

Ok, but you might want to include details such as a copy of what you sent to 
Amazon Support when asking others to report an accessibility issue. 

 

I do have an Amazon Music Unlimited subscription and I'm not experiencing the 
accessibility issues you described even on the now playing screen. I've found 
that turning screen recognition on within the Amazon Music app makes many of 
its screens more accessible. 

 

Alan Lemly 

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Aug 23, 2023, at 4:12 PM, Feliciano Godoy mailto:theblindman...@hotmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi,

I didn’t explain here as I have already explained to amazon. I am having issues 
with unlabled buttons on both iPhone and Windows apps. On iPhone, I am also 
having abnormal behavior when swiping on occasion which triggers the app to go 
to the next track. If you play a track, go to the now playing screen and it’s a 
mess. Not sure if you’re an amazon music unlimited user as unlimited users have 
different UI on iPhone.

 

Feliciano 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2023 2:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Amazon music app for iPhone broek accessibility

 

Feliciano, 

 

Your post is a little short on details regarding what accessibility issues 
you're experiencing with the latest Amazon Music app. The app seems to be 
working fine for me. What exactly is the problem you're having? 

 

Alan Lemly 

 

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Hi all, 

anyone else impacted by the latest update of Amazon music for iPhone? If so, 
please join me and  report this bug to amazon music department. The easiest way 
to contact them is to contact amazon music via twitter (X) or calling Amazon 
and getting transferred to  the amazon music department.

 

I hope we can make some noise about this as I have been trying to have them 
make amazon music app for windows more accessible yet they seem to have screen 
reader accessibility  as an afterthought.

 

Thanks,

Feliciano 

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RE: What is happen to the Viphone list?

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Maybe nobody else did either? 
Lol 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, June 6, 2023 1:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: What is happen to the Viphone list?

 

I had no time to listen to Apple's keynote this morning nor this evening so 
far. I surely thought I would find a lot of messages discussing what was said 
tonight, but to my surprise there was not a single message.

I really thought I would see a lot of comments as used to be the case about iOS 
17 and find a request from Mark for all of our mailing addresses so he can 
place preorders for everybody for the $3,500 US virtual reality headset which 
Apple apparently announced for early 2024 

 

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bluetooth and typing while using voiceove3r

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I notice that when I'm using Bluetooth headphones and am typing on my Iphone
that there are latency issues between my finger pressing whatever I want to
type and me hearing the letter through my headphones. Anybody know how to
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Re: Messenger?

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I am as well 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 26, 2023, at 15:10, Rafał Marzec  wrote:
> 
> Hello
> Yes, I’ve got the same problem and I’ve observed it since last two messenger 
> updates
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On 26 May 2023, at 6:48 pm, Lelia Struve  wrote:
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>> Hi all,  So I'm wondering if any one else is having problems with voice 
>> over and focus and messenger? I have an iPhone 14 pro with the latest update 
>> and I can receive messengers and send them but when I try replying again to 
>> someone voice over reads everything and it's doable but hard to get to where 
>> I can send another messenger.  I hope this makes sense, ask any questions.  
>> Thanks for any help with this.
>> 
>> Lelia 
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RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

[Star Gazer]

It’s a bug, it 
will get fixed. I’m missing some posts here but hey if someone wants to sue 
Apple, they hve that right. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of alia 
robinson
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 5:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT 
UPDATE to ios16.5

 

it’s ridiculous to talk about suing apple over this. it’s not like they did it 
purposefully so blind people can’t use their products. do you know how many 
bugs sighted people deal with too? not everything is about us being blind.





On May 22, 2023, at 4:28 PM, Ed Worrell mailto:blindworr...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello,

 

While this is a bug, I don’t think that it’s worth threatening to sue Apple 
over. It takes some time in the development world to fix bugs, and to get them 
approved in the update cycle. I think that you will have better luck with 
reporting bugs through Apple Accessibility, than getting lawyers involved. This 
is not a denial of access issue, it literally is a bug, that someone has found 
a work around for. It sounds pretty simple to work around it too. Just my 
thoughts, I’m sure you’re going to rip me a new one now, so go on with your 
rant.

 

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RE: smart bread makers or else physically accessible

[Star Gazer]

So? She can use it however she wants.. as can you. The 
advantage to doing it the way Barbara’s mom does, is one, it’s fun, and 2, you 
can shape it into rools. 

Also, Barbara’s mom may not have the hand strength or desire to knead dough. 
It’s a lot of work. My teenager enjoys it, and as I point out to her, you are 
still in the phase of cooking where you don’t *have* to do it, I am at the 
phase of cooking where I *need* to do it. It makes a big difference in how you 
accomplish the same goal.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Barbara 
Stahl
Sent: Wednesday, May 3, 2023 2:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: smart bread makers or else physically accessible

 

A mixer and a neater but in the end the bread comes out great





On May 3, 2023, at 2:17 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

But then she basically uses the bread maker as nothing more than a mixer.

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Barbara Stahl
Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2023 6:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: smart bread makers or else physically accessible

 

Hi everyone. 

I just wanted to put my two cents in here. 

My mom has used a bread maker to make delicious bread for at least 20 years.  
She uses it to mix up and need the bread dough.  She then removes the dough 
from the bread maker puts it in bread pans and lets it rise that way. Then she 
bakes it in the oven.   She has used it to make all kinds of bread white bread 
Italian bread wheat bread rye bread banana bread all kinds and they all were 
delicious






On May 2, 2023, at 2:02 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

I don't want to talk anybody out of buying a bread maker if they really think 
they want such a device, in fact I am guilty of buying into this fad back in 
the late 90's when they first became popular.

However, I would like to point out that making the kind of basic bread you can 
make in a bread maker is really quite easy and really  all the bread maker does 
is to combine 3 tasks which is to mix/knead, rise/proof the dough and then bake.

You still have to put the ingredients, typically flour, water, yeast,, a bit of 
salt and potentially any seeds you may add into the bread maker. I would highly 
recommend to read a bit about making bread, learn a few ground rules about 
activating "active dry yeast" and try to mix/knead the dough, then let it rise, 
punch it back down and let rise again and finally bake. It's a very satisfying 
process and the results once you get the hang of it are better than what comes 
out of a bread maker.

There is of course an entire different area of bread making when you start 
using sour dough and making heavy bread with flour such as spelt, Red Fife, 
Einkorn or other ancient grains, but that type of bread can't be made in a 
bread maker anyways.

 

My bread maker, it was from the brand "Regal", got used maybe a dozen times and 
then it sat around for 10 or 15 years before I finally sold it for $25 on 
Facebook.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Monday, May 1, 2023 12:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: smart bread makers or else physically accessible

 

Use one by 
Quisineart, it has physical buttons and defaults to 1 when turned off. You 
should be able to get the hang of it, it has physical buttons and if you get 
stuck can use Be My Eyes or IRA to read the screen. I enjoy mine though am also 
following in case there is a better suggestion out there. 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca <mailto:mi...@eastlink.ca> 
Sent: Monday, May 1, 2023 3:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: smart bread makers or else physically accessible

 

Hi I have herd of a talking bred maker that once exzisted but I have not seen 
it my self. I would like to know this as well though. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Dan
Sent: May 1, 2023 2:59 PM
To: 'cwc' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: smart bread makers or else physically accessible

 

Hi all,

 

Do any of you use or are you aware of any bread makers that are accessible 
using bluetooth/wifi?  If so, what brands/models?

 

Also, other than smart machines do any of you use bread makers that are 
physically accessible using buttons/knobs/dials etc?

 

Thanks.

 

-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA

RE: smart bread makers or else physically accessible

[Star Gazer]

Use one by 
Quisineart, it has physical buttons and defaults to 1 when turned off. You 
should be able to get the hang of it, it has physical buttons and if you get 
stuck can use Be My Eyes or IRA to read the screen. I enjoy mine though am also 
following in case there is a better suggestion out there. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca
Sent: Monday, May 1, 2023 3:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: smart bread makers or else physically accessible

 

Hi I have herd of a talking bred maker that once exzisted but I have not seen 
it my self. I would like to know this as well though. From Mich.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Dan
Sent: May 1, 2023 2:59 PM
To: 'cwc' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: smart bread makers or else physically accessible

 

Hi all,

 

Do any of you use or are you aware of any bread makers that are accessible 
using bluetooth/wifi?  If so, what brands/models?

 

Also, other than smart machines do any of you use bread makers that are 
physically accessible using buttons/knobs/dials etc?

 

Thanks.

 

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Iphone randomly switched voices

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Hi guys. I was going through some pictures to send to someone and my phone
went from the Tom voice to the Samantha voice for no reason. I got it back
to Tom but I have no idea how or why this happened. Any ideas? 

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RE: Passcode & Face ID Question

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Yes, with 
attention aware, you have to make eye contact with the screen v. just look in 
the direction. Apple should probably rephrase this feature to mean eye contact 
v. attention since they are different things. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Keith 
Kramlinger
Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 1:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Passcode & Face ID Question

 

hi Carla,

You may need to go into the Face ID and passcode settings and turn off the 
require a tension feature. This feature, when turned off, does not require your 
eyesight to be directed at the phone. Most people, I believe, with visual 
difficulties turn this off., I hope this helps.

Best, Keith

 





On Mar 2, 2023, at 10:15 PM, Carla mailto:carlarae5...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday.  I went to this phone from the SE3.  I can 
do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and closing apps, etc.  
The only thing I cannot do is have the phone accept my facial ID which I had 
someone help me set up.  Does anyone have any suggestions to make this work 
because I do not want to go back to the SE3.  I’m even learning to use the 
power button rather than using a home button.  I love the speakers and the 
stereo sound when playing music.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Carla

 

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RE: amazon music app and podcasts

[Star Gazer]

Thank you, this 
did seem to help. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alan 
Lemly
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2023 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: amazon music app and podcasts

 

Hi Star Gazer, 

 

I'd recommend you place Screen recognition in your rotor and set it to yes when 
reviewing your followed podcasts with the Amazon Music app. I found much more 
info was being spoken with screen recognition turned on when reviewing 
available podcasts under the Library tab just now. 

 

Actually, keeping screen recognition handy is a good idea when dealing with any 
app that doesn't seem to be speaking info you feel certain is present. 

 

Alan Lemly 

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Feb 17, 2023, at 6:24 AM, Star Gazer mailto:pickrellrebe...@gmail.com> > wrote:



For whatever reason my list of followed podcasts doesn’t show up under the 
shows tab in the library section when using voiceover. When voiceover is turned 
off, the list is apparently there according to those who can see the screen. 
Since I’m totally blind this is is not helpful to me. 

Anybody know how to fix or who I talk to at Amazon? 

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amazon music app and podcasts

[Star Gazer]

For whatever reason my list of followed podcasts doesn't show up under the
shows tab in the library section when using voiceover. When voiceover is
turned off, the list is apparently there according to those who can see the
screen. Since I'm totally blind this is is not helpful to me. 

Anybody know how to fix or who I talk to at Amazon? 

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how to get to play next queue in apple podcasts?

[Star Gazer]

How do I do this? I can't seem to figure out how to get to my play next
queue in apple podcasts. Any idea? 

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RE: AppleVis News letter

[Star Gazer]

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CJ & AA 
MAY
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2022 1:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: AppleVis News letter

 

Yes, This is what I do. 

I go to mySame,, here is no way to subscribe  me 
all the different episodes but there is no option to subscribe so they can 
arrive automatically.

 

Alison

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
 On Behalf Of Afik Souffir
Sent: 20 December 2022 10:27
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: AppleVis News letter

 

Hi, go to the podcasts app and search for Applevis

 

 

 

Get Outlook for iOS  

  _  

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > on behalf of 
Alison May mailto:chrisalis...@gmail.com> >
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2022 12:20:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Re: AppleVis News letter 

 

I would like to subscribe to the Apple. Vis podcasts, but although I can see 
how to download individual episodes, I can’t see how to subscribe so they 
arrive automatically to my iPhone. Any tips?

Sent from my iPhone by Alison may 

0777 315 8181

 

On 1 Oct 2022, at 3:32 pm, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:

 

Hello,

I am passing along this month’s Applevis newsletter with the recommendation 
that anyone who is not signed up with AppleVis.com might want to do so.  This 
month toward the end of the newsletter are some short, mp3 walk-throughs called 
Quick Tips on some features that have been discussed on this and other lists.

The rest of the newsletter may have things for you as well, but here is a list 
of the topics in the Quick Tips category.  The links are in the newsletter 
itself below.

"  Quick Tip: How to Make Siri Wait Longer for You to Finish Speaking 
on iOS

"  Quick Tip: How to Enable Severe Weather Notifications in Apple's 
Weather App for iOS

"  Quick Tip: How to Prevent the Side or Lock Button From Ending the 
Current Call

"  Quick Tip: View and Manage Previously Used Wi-Fi Networks and Their 
Passwords on iOS

"  Quick Tip: How to Unsend a Sent iMessage on iOS

"  How to Setup Sound Recognition to Alert You to Custom Sounds

"  Quick Tip: How to Report Junk SMS and MMS Messages in iOS

"  Quick Tip: How to Locate and Use the Dynamic Island on the iPhone 14 
Pro

"  Quick Tip: How to Turn on iPhone 14 Startup and Shutdown Chimes

"  Quick Tip: How to Disable Always-on Display on Your iPhone 14 Pro or 
iPhone 14 Pro Max

"  Quick Tip: How to Skip the Confirmation Step When Sending Messages 
With Siri on iOS

"  Quick Tip: How to Recover Deleted Conversations in the iOS Messages 
App

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

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RE: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

[Star Gazer]

Why not set it 
on the raise to wake setting? 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of James 
Homuth
Sent: Wednesday, December 7, 2022 10:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

 

I mean, you can. But every time the phone wakes, Face ID fires. That’s what I 
want to turn off if possible – because just because I woke the thing up doesn’t 
mean I want to do more than make it repeat itself. If I need to just make sure 
I unlock it first, then… I mean… I will, but if I don’t have to, then why?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
mi...@eastlink.ca  
Sent: December 7, 2022 4:57 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

 

Hmm this is a good question I wonder if you could use a combination of face id 
and pin? Since I have a I phone 8 but am planning to get a I phone 14 prow in 
the new year. It would be good if you had a choice of using face id and pin in 
combination with one another. From Mich.

 

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James Homuth
Sent: December 7, 2022 3:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: How to prevent Face ID from misfiring?

 

Hey again, folks. Thanks for the help with my last Face ID question. Mostly I 
think it’s just going to be getting used to it. Speaking of that, I’m wondering 
if there’s a way I can prevent Face ID from being the default – right now, the 
iPhone assumes I want to unlock my phone when it wakes, which results in Face 
ID trying to fire off. So for example, my phone will go off while I’m busy 
doing something, so when I’m free I decide to check it out to see what it said 
in case, you know, something at work is on fire and I need to be not doing the 
thing I’m doing. So I pull up my notifications, and Face ID fires off. But 
because I’m not intending to unlock my phone but only check to see what I 
missed, Face ID inevitably fails because I don’t have it in a good position for 
it to succeed—why would I if I only want to check my notifications? Besides 
waring earbuds or something, which makes no sense if I’m the only one in the 
place and so my phone isn’t disturbing anyone, is there a way I can set my 
phone to only try to unlock it with my face when I tell it to? Otherwise, Face 
ID is probably going to continue to misfire and end up disabling itself after 5 
failed attempts that I didn’t want to be attempts. Again, if I’m missing 
something obvious feel free to whap me upside the head with it. Thanks for the 
help!

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RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

[Star Gazer]

Correct you want that feature disabled as 
attention in this case means make eye contact with the phone in a way that most 
people who are blind just can't do. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2022 7:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

Right; keep it disabled. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
James Homuth
Sent: Tuesday, December 6, 2022 12:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

Do you keep the "require attention" setting disabled, or did you end up 
enabling that? At the moment, I seem to be having more success with that 
setting disabled.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: December 6, 2022 12:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?

Using face ID is something that will take some practice.  I have the phone kind 
of on my left leg, and kind of turn my head towards the phone and it usually 
works.  However, I use my Hable bluetooth keyboard most of the time to unlock 
my phone with my passcode.  I use my face ID for my crecdit card and paypal 
apps.

On 12/5/22, James Homuth  wrote:
> That’s the weird part. Setup seemed to go okay for me, except for once 
> when my head was down a little too far. It corrected me and I didn’t 
> appear to have a problem.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> tony k5twz.com
> Sent: December 5, 2022 11:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?
>
>
>
> I was having trouble setting it up the first time.  A friend held the 
> phone and moved it slowly around my face from different angles.
> Haven’t had a problem since.
>
>
>
> Tony
>
>
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  
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> Behalf Of James Homuth
> Sent: Monday, December 5, 2022 9:33 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Best practices for Face ID as a blind fool?
>
>
>
> Yup, me again, with what I’m sure is another question that was 
> answered when modern phones came out. What tricks are people using for 
> successfully and consistently getting Face ID to succeed? It seems to 
> enjoy failing on me on a regular basis and I end up resorting to the 
> passcode. Which, I mean, I don’t mind… but after using Touch ID for 
> years I’ve gotten lazy. What am I not doing correctly?
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weird issue with spodify and voiceover

[Star Gazer]

Sometimes when I'm listening to spodify, my phone goes silent, voiceover
appears to be on but speech isn't. Toggling speech doesn't fix this, I have
to turn voiceover off and then back on which is annoying to the point that
I'm thinking of giving up on Spodify. It seems to happen during adds. I am
not touching the phone when it happens and nobody else is either and no we
don't have a cat. Smiles. 

Anybody have any insights? 

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RE: Reading prescription labels

[Star Gazer]

What is navilens? 

-Original Message-
From: 'Sandy Tomkins' via VIPhone  
Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 12:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels

Hi,

I am wondering if this might not be a perfect example where NaviLens could 
be of use? Not only can the labels be as small as you need them, they could 
also translate for those whose language is  not the prevailing one, so, 
visitors from abroad etc. It is free aty the point of use and would be totally 
simple for pharmacies to apply.

NaviLens is such wonderful stuff!!!

P.S. not sure, but think that the adtual licence for the public  labels would 
have to be owned by the manufacturer.sandy and Z. 

Sent from The dark side of the moon

> On 26 Nov 2022, at 15:09, Lyne  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> There is Script Talk with EnVisionAmerica but not available everywhere ...
> 
> Lyne
> 
>> Le 26 nov. 2022 à 09:15, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> a écrit :
>> 
>> You could gently remove the label and get Seeing A I to read it. I guess 
>> LiDAR could, if you have it? 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2022 8:12 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Reading prescription labels
>> 
>> The problem is reading on the curve. The best solution is to get the 
>> pharmacy to connect with Envision America and their ScrirtTalk program which 
>> gives visually impaired people access to all of the medication info 
>> including the prescription number and refills remaining, etc.
>> You could try Voice Dream Scanner.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin My 
>> web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   On Nov 25, 2022, at 11:28 PM, Donald Raikes  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>   Hi,
>> 
>>   Using my iPhone, what would be the best app to read the label on my
>>   prescription medications to get the prescription number for reordering
>>   the medication?
>> 
>>   I tried seeing ai but it didn't work very well at all. The rx number
>>   was too high on the label and the container lid got in the way I
>>   think.
>> 
>>   -- 
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>>   Sincerely,
>>   Donald Raikes, CPACC
>>   Accessibility Specialist
>>   IAAP Certified Professional in Accessibility Core
>>   
>> 
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Re: E-speak now available to test IOS

[Star Gazer]

I did this and am not seeing the voices 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 4, 2022, at 08:07, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> You're going to need test flight installed on your phone before installing 
> the E-speak beta. If you don't have test flight you'll be taken to the app 
> store to get it where you can join the beta test for this app. The easiest 
> way to do this is to open the link I'll include in this email on your phone 
> which takes you to the apple vis blog post about the beta. In the blog post 
> is the test flight link which you will click and take it from there. It's 
> pretty straight forward from there. Once you get the app installed, go to 
> accessibility, voice over, speech and you'll see the E-speak voices along 
> with all others you can choose from. You can sample each one before switching 
> to it. As they release new betas, you'll be notified by test flight and can 
> install those. This is really cool because it opens the door for endless 
> opportunities when it comes to other voices that could eventually come to the 
> iPhone.
> 
>> On 11/4/2022 6:54 AM, Star Gazer wrote:
>> Get me smart, from the ground up, what steps do I need to take to do this?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
>> Heinrichs
>> Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2022 8:20 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Gordon 
>> Subject: Re: E-speak now available to test IOS
>> 
>> Oh wow, E-Speak for iOS? Maybe I should check that out! I honestly wish 
>> Ivona hadn't gone to the Harpo store because I would've loved to have my 
>> favorite Ivona voices for iOS. I especially loved the Amy voice, that was my 
>> all-time favorite voice along with the Vocalizer Kate voice, the British 
>> voice.
>> 
>> Maria
>> 
>>> On 11/3/2022 4:26 AM, Gordon wrote:
>>> I got this from the top tech tid bits email this morning. You must
>>> install test flight to do this, but when you get the app installed,
>>> you'll find the voices in settings accessibility and will sample and
>>> change them just like you would if you wanted to change any other
>>> voices. It's actually pretty cool and works well. The only thing you
>>> can't do right now is change the speech volume through the rotor, but
>>> I did submit feedback to the developer about this. but there are a tun
>>> of voices to choose from. Here's the link
>>> https://applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/first-espeak-ng-beta-ios-now-ava
>>> ilable
>>> 
>>> 
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RE: E-speak now available to test IOS

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Get me smart, from the ground up, what steps do I need to take to do this?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
Heinrichs
Sent: Thursday, November 3, 2022 8:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Gordon 
Subject: Re: E-speak now available to test IOS

Oh wow, E-Speak for iOS? Maybe I should check that out! I honestly wish Ivona 
hadn't gone to the Harpo store because I would've loved to have my favorite 
Ivona voices for iOS. I especially loved the Amy voice, that was my all-time 
favorite voice along with the Vocalizer Kate voice, the British voice.

Maria

On 11/3/2022 4:26 AM, Gordon wrote:
> I got this from the top tech tid bits email this morning. You must 
> install test flight to do this, but when you get the app installed, 
> you'll find the voices in settings accessibility and will sample and 
> change them just like you would if you wanted to change any other 
> voices. It's actually pretty cool and works well. The only thing you 
> can't do right now is change the speech volume through the rotor, but 
> I did submit feedback to the developer about this. but there are a tun 
> of voices to choose from. Here's the link 
> https://applevis.com/forum/ios-ipados/first-espeak-ng-beta-ios-now-ava
> ilable
>
>

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RE: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro Max with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?

[Star Gazer]

That seems to be correct 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 5:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro Max 
with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?

I think, maybe the catch to Face ID is holding the phone at least ten inches 
away from your face. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 3:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro Max 
with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?

Speaking of the home button, it isn't getting used to no home button that is a 
problem for me.  I'm getting used to face ID and that is still somewhat of an 
issue for me.  Not having a home button, is no big deal.  I just wish I could 
still have touch ID instead of face ID.

On 10/20/22, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> I think it is kind of like the Home Button; there are those who will grieve.
> I wonder how much longer the SE models will have a Home Button?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 12:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 
> 14Pro Max with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?
>
> And if all you have to do is transfer your e-SIM from your old iPhone 
> to your new one during the setup process of your new phone it would be 
> just as easy peasy.
> I understand why people who make a living reviewing products have 
> multiple phones and want to transfer a SIM from one device to another 
> a lot, but I never understood why somebody would want to spend all 
> that money to buy 2 or
> 3 high-end phones and use one this day or this week and another the 
> next. I would venture a guess and say that this is a pretty small 
> minority among phone owners.
> I haven't really read up on this, but I understand that transferring 
> an e-SIM from an old phone to a new one is a pretty easy and straight 
> forward thing. I actually switched to an e-SIM on my iPhone 11 because 
> I wanted the physical SIM tray to be available for when I travel to 
> the Philippines with my wife. I haven't bought a new phone since then 
> so I didn't have to transfer said e-SIM. Anyways, if there is an easy 
> way to transfer an e-SIM between 2 or 3 devices whenever one wants to 
> do so then the argument about the physical SIM becomes a mute point.
> From the little I did read all it may take is a QR code from your 
> carrier and then to scan said QR code to transfer the e-SIM and before 
> I would moon over the lack of a physical SIM I would certainly want to 
> inform myself as to how easy or not it is to switch e-SIMs between the 
> devices I have.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
> Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 1:00 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 
> 14Pro Max with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?
>
> I have had the same sim card now since my iPhone 5S. Each time I get a 
> new one I just pop the card out and put it in the new one. Easy peasy.
>
> Chris Judge
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Julian
> Sent: October 19, 2022 8:17 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 
> 14Pro Max with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?
>
> The sad reality is, every time Apple shows "courage " look out, it 
> means that somethings about to get taken away. Just like every time 
> something is done in the name of "safety" it usually means some right 
> or liberty is about to get taken away, that's as far as I'll go into that on 
> this list though.
> Good luck in being able to get the phone that you want with a Sim 
> tray. For my part, I'm going to hold onto my SE3 which is working 
> quite nicely and suiting my needs.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 19, 2022, at 3:57 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I'd expect it to just work. I get the situation where people want to 
>> be able to use multiple phones by just switching out the SIM card, 
>> but that's not something I'm interested in doing. When I got my 
>> iPhone 11, the person at the AT store basically just handed me my 
>> phone and I could walk out of the store with it. I asked if there was 
>> something we needed to do, like swap the SIM card, and he said no, it 
>> was all good. It was the easiest it's ever been for me to get a new 
>> phone, and it was the least amount of time I've ever spent in a 

RE: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro Max with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?

[Star Gazer]

Wondering that too 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
llump...@austin.rr.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 9:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro Max 
with a Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?

My question, why a physical sim tray when an electronic sim works just fine?


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2022 8:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: And So It Begins: Does Anyone Know How to Buy iPhone 14Pro Max with a 
Physical SIM Tray from within the United States?

Hello Everyone, 

And so it begins.

I was in one of my local Apple stores, yesterday taking a look at iPhone 14 Pro 
Max.  

It is my hope to purchase an iPhone 14 model with a physical SIM tray.

While discussing this with a store manager, I was somewhat surprised to learn 
that, according to him, the store has been inundated  by customers who only 
want to buy iPhone 14 with a physical SIM tray.  He told me that they are 
working on crafting an in-store response to the enquiries designed to 
discouraged customers from seeking a physical SIM tray.  He followed that up by 
saying, "I know you, Mark, and no response is going to keep you from getting 
that SIM tray model, if that is what you want."  (smile)  He is a very smart 
man (smile).

So, the search begins.

Does anyone know away to purchase an iPhone 14 Pro Max with a physical SIM 
tray, from within the United States?

Some people are saying that if you buy a model from the Apple online store, 
without designating a wireless provider, that Apple will ship you a model with 
a physical SIM tray.  However, I cannot locate anyone to confirm this.

Make no mistake, I'm not above taking a short trek up to Canada to pick up a 
model but if I can avoid it, I would prefer to do so.

I have a friend who is heading to Japan in a couple of weeks and, of course, I 
could have the friend pick up a model, in Japan, but that makes me somewhat 
uncomfortable; I don't know why.  I think I'd rather go to Canada, in person, 
to grab a model.

All replies greatly appreciated. 

Mark  

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RE: Accessible photo album

[Star Gazer]

Try swiping from within the 
picture that may help. Also you can get good metadata, date and time and 
location and what has been shared with the picture, that also helps 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of chaim 
biberfeld
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2022 12:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Accessible photo album

 

I find the iPhone photo album entirely inaccessible. I was never able to flick 
to see the pictures, only two stab at my phone and hope to find one. Is there a 
fully accessible photo album that I can transfer my pictures to?

Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349  

 

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RE: BARD 2.0 is in the app store

[Star Gazer]

This is precisely what I had to 
do too 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sherrie 
Gosling
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 12:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: BARD 2.0 is in the app store

 

I went to app store, searched for BARDmobile and it showed up in the results 
but said version 1.something. I tapped on the name to get to the description 
and there was an update button.

I had to do the same thing for the last update as well.

Sherrie

 

 

Sent from Sherrie's iPhone

 

 





On Sep 20, 2022, at 11:57 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:



Often, updates don’t show up automatically.

You have to refresh the update screen to get the phone to show all available 
updates.

Eventually it will show up automatically I’m sure, but if you do the three 
finger swipe down a few times until you hear “refreshing” it should be there.

Or as one other person did, delete the app and download it again.  Of course, 
if you have several books that you are reading that would mean redownloading 
them again…

 

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com

礪

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Kathy Blackburn
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2022 8:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: BARD 2.0 is in the app store

 

BARD 2.0 has not appeared on the list of available updates on my iPhone 8 or my 
husband's SE2020. 

Kathy Blackburn
kblac...@austin.rr.com <mailto:kblac...@austin.rr.com> 

On Sep 20, 2022 9:15 AM, Tom Lange mailto:lang...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi all,

Yesterday I went to the App Store to get BARD Mobile 2.0 and didn't see an 
option to update. I checked again this morning and still didn't see an update. 
I ended up uninstalling BARD Mobile and redownloading it from the App Store and 
I got version 2.0 that way. Just thought I'd pass that along for those of you 
who, like myself, didn't see an update option. 

 

On Sep 19, 2022, at 3:13 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Yes, quite a few apps will get you to something like a context menu with a one 
finger double tap and hold or a three finger triple tap. Settings is another 
good example. I’d suggest just giving it a try to see what apps it works for 
and what options you get.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Outlook

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 3:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: BARD 2.0 is in the app store

 

You can also do a double tap and hold, same thing as far as I know.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
cory...@gmail.com <mailto:cory...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 1:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: BARD 2.0 is in the app store

 

Richard,

 

Do other apps have this 1 finger triple tap option?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 10:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: BARD 2.0 is in the app store

 

First, if it looks the same, it didn’t update.

 

The shortcut to get to the updates page is to do a one finger triple tap on the 
App store icon.

This brings up a menu of choices.  Updates is one of them.

Once on  that screen, the available updates will be near the bottom of the 
screen, but they may not show up automagically, so do a three finger swipe down 
to refresh the screen.

 ,

 

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

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礪

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 5:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subje

RE: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

[Star Gazer]

My 5-year old would 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 7:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

Who would want to buy an 8? This is its last year to live, as far as getting 
updates. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 3:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

I agree.  I would very much like to have my bard books be able to transfer from 
my iPhone 8 to my iPhone 13 pro max.  The only reason why I'm keeping my iPhone 
8 is because of all the bard books on it.
Once I can get my bard books moved to my newer phone, I'll see if I can sell my 
iPhone 8.  However, who knows how long it will be before we can get our bard 
books on different devices.  I'm glad we are getting bard mobile 2.0.  This 
seems like a step in the wright direction.

On 9/16/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> My apologies, the email address to write them with any 
> suggestions/comments/questions did not copy.
>
> Write to nlsdownl...@loc.gov <mailto:nlsdownl...@loc.gov>
>
>
>
> Anyone with that wish should write them.
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> “People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of 
> thought which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard
>
>
>
> My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com
>
> 礪
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Star Gazer
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 10:39 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!
>
>
>
> This 
> is wonderful. Onto my question though, when will we be able to 
> transfer content between devices, say upgrading from one phone to another?
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of deidreandlou...@gmail.com <mailto:deidreandlou...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 11:15 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!
>
>
>
>BARD is a true life line. Much of this we can do 
> already but some of the added flexibility is  nice.
>
>
>
>Deidre
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 11:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!
>
>
>
> From BARD Support: Note the update is due out by September 23rd it is 
> not available yet.
>
> The email below is from BARD Support.
>
>
>
> Announcing BARD Mobile for iOS 2.0
>
> We're excited to tell you that NLS has released version 2.0 of BARD 
> Mobile for iOS. In this version, the BARD Website option is replaced 
> by a new and powerful search engine that has the following abilities:
>
> "  Search by keyword, title, author, or annotation.
>
> "  Search for either braille or audio content.
>
> "  Use the Keyword search to search for narrators.
>
> "  Search for items in the Music collection, including music
> appreciation and instructional materials as well as music scores.
>
> "  Access all the options available from books in your wish list,
> Recently Added Books, etc., such as downloading directly from the 
> search results page and viewing all the books by the same author or in 
> the same series.
>
> "  Enter an author's or narrator's name in any format and without
> quotation marks and get reliable results.
>
> "  Enter words from a title without quotation marks and get reliable
> results.
>
> "  Enter multiple types of information in a Keyword search, such as
> part of a title and an author's last name or a title and narrator's 
> name, and get reliable results.
>
> "  Change the type of search after you conduct the original search.
>
> "  Sort search results by title, author, or latest (the publication
> date).
>
> To conduct a search, choose the Search option at the top of the Get 
> Books screen, just above Wish List. Keyword is the default search 
> type, and Audio is the default format. Change these settings if you 
> like, type or dictate search terms in the search field, and choose Go 
> or Search. To change th

RE: BARD 2.0 is in the app store

[Star Gazer]

How do I tell if my BARD 
updated, it looks the same to me and when I go to the app store, I don’t see an 
update button. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gerardo 
Corripio
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2022 12:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: BARD 2.0 is in the app store

 

And amazingly it's only 12MB in stize! Just updated it. Thanks for letting us 
know. I'll definitely go and take a look at the new features and layout.

Gera

Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel





El 18 sep 2022, a la(s) 11:07 p.m., Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > escribió:



I checked for app updates and was shocked to find BARD 2.0 is already in the 
app store.

I think the new system works great.

The search is at the top and searching for an author seems to get just that 
author and not any combination of the first and last name, etc.

 

Here is what the update says:

Version 2.0 includes a number of new features, including in-app search 
capabilities: -Search inputs are more intuitive. Author search supports First 
Name, Last Name format; Last Name, First Name; and Last Name only. Quotation 
marks are no longer required. For example, input “Mary Clark” (without 
quotations) to find all the Mary Higgins Clark titles. -Keyword search supports 
searching all indexed metadata and can help users looking for multiple 
criteria. For example, to find a Terri Pratchett book narrated by Nick DePinto, 
a user can simply input “dePinto Terri“ (without quotations). -After a user 
inputs a search, they can amend the search type, the inputted term itself, or 
the format (audio or braille), and sort results alphabetically by author, 
title, or latest publication date. -In-app search now includes NLS Music 
collection holdings, allowing users to access the variety of musical 
appreciation and biography books, scores, and music instructional titles.  
-Users can switch between audio and braille searches. For example, input “learn 
guitar” (without quotation marks) with the search defaults to find audio 
instructional titles, then select the braille format and the search button 
again to find braille titles. Version 2.0 also includes enhancements to 
searching and sorting Bookshelf and Get Books listings. Bug fixes include: 
-Rewind controls skipping further than intended -Sideloading books  
-Downloading and reading non-ASCII foreign language book titles

 

Richard

“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com  

礪

 

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RE: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

[Star Gazer]

This is 
wonderful. Onto my question though, when will we be able to transfer content 
between devices, say upgrading from one phone to another? 

 

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deidreandlou...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 11:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

 

   BARD is a true life line. Much of this we can do already but 
some of the added flexibility is  nice.

 

   Deidre

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, September 16, 2022 11:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: BARD 2.0 is coming soon!

 

>From BARD Support: Note the update is due out by September 23rd it is not 
>available yet.

The email below is from BARD Support.

 

Announcing BARD Mobile for iOS 2.0

We're excited to tell you that NLS has released version 2.0 of BARD Mobile for 
iOS. In this version, the BARD Website option is replaced by a new and powerful 
search engine that has the following abilities:

"  Search by keyword, title, author, or annotation.

"  Search for either braille or audio content.

"  Use the Keyword search to search for narrators.

"  Search for items in the Music collection, including music 
appreciation and instructional materials as well as music scores.

"  Access all the options available from books in your wish list, 
Recently Added Books, etc., such as downloading directly from the search 
results page and viewing all the books by the same author or in the same series.

"  Enter an author's or narrator's name in any format and without 
quotation marks and get reliable results. 

"  Enter words from a title without quotation marks and get reliable 
results.

"  Enter multiple types of information in a Keyword search, such as 
part of a title and an author's last name or a title and narrator's name, and 
get reliable results.

"  Change the type of search after you conduct the original search.

"  Sort search results by title, author, or latest (the publication 
date).

To conduct a search, choose the Search option at the top of the Get Books 
screen, just above Wish List. Keyword is the default search type, and Audio is 
the default format. Change these settings if you like, type or dictate search 
terms in the search field, and choose Go or Search. To change the format or 
type of search from the Search Results page, select the search field at the 
top; all the options on the original search page are now available. To sort the 
search results, choose Title, Author, or Latest. To access options such as 
Download and viewing other books by the same author with VoiceOver, touch the 
title of interest, flick up or down to the desired choice, and double-tap. If 
you don't use VoiceOver, select the More info button to the right of the title, 
and then choose either Download, Add to Wish List, or More Actions.

Additionally, Version 2.0 fixes problems with:

"  Rewind controls skipping further than intended.

"  Side loading books.

"  Downloading and reading non-ASCII foreign language book titles.

The update should be available by Friday, September 23rd. We hope you enjoy it.

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RE: New voices iOS 16

[Star Gazer]

You may have to add Welsh as a language and 
pick the voice from there 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 7:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New voices iOS 16

For Welch, try Ivona Garet or Gwinith.

On 9/12/22, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> Hello Lana,
>
> I don’t know where you are in the world but I come from a town in 
> Wales called Tredegar.
>
> We have a dialect that some call Wenglish which is an amalgamation of 
> English and residual Welsh.
>
> It is not uncommon for someone to say something like:  “I’ll do it now 
> in a minute” while this makes no sense in a literal sense we know 
> exactly what is meant.
>
> Malcolm Parfitt
>
>> On 13 Sep 2022, at 00:03, Lana  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> I would love that. There are some novels with a Welsh and or 
>> Arthurian setting which cry for a Welsh reader. Then someone could 
>> pronounce some of those names properly.
>>
>> On 9/12/2022 4:36 PM, Malcolm Parfitt wrote:
>>>
>>> What about a voice with a Welsh dialect?  Here in the UK all nations 
>>> are provided for except Wales!
>>>
>>> Malcolm Parfitt
>>>
 On 12 Sep 2022, at 23:13, CHELA Robles  wrote:

  Well, sometimes I like hearing the higher quality voices too, and 
 sometimes having Siri be my voice of Joyce. I like your voice three 
 American. when it comes to Siri, of course :-) it is great that 
 Apple took into consideration various options for several peoples 
 suggestions.
 It’s great to have more than one voice. Now I have to set up my 
 Apple Watch. It just booted up with watchOS 9. but oh, so many 
 voices to choose from I do like the Scottish voice I may from time to time 
 use it.
 but I do use the Irish voice in March. Why well you know when Saint 
 Paddy‘s day comes along I like to hear the Irish accent. I don’t 
 care for Moira much, but I do like the Siri Irish voices. I wish 
 they had a series, Scottish voice, or a set of male and female 
 Scottish Siri voices that be cool.

 Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2022, at 3:04 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
>  wrote:
>
> 
>
> Well, I used to use Eloquence on my PC and then I switched to 
> eSpeak when I was using Linux. Now that I’m an old man, I figure I 
> deserve a nice quality voice, and I’m not in a hurry like I was 
> when I wore a younger man’s clothes!
>
>
>
> --
>
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>
> Chaltain at Outlook
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of CHELA Robles
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 5:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: New voices iOS 16
>
>
>
> Her voice sounds really good. Premium quality is amazing on some 
> of those voices that offer all three voice types. By the way, it 
> was kind of funny to read your message. Christopher with the good 
> news, voice singing your whole email message quite interesting. 
> Indeed I switched it to eloquence though, because then I can hear 
> it at a much faster speed that I’m used to reading emails in on my 
> windows, computer. I usually have it set to 70% on my computer if you 
> were wondering.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
>> On Sep 12, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> I was already a fan of Ava, so I can’t wait to check out the 
>> premium version!
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>>
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>
>>
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
>> Behalf Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 4:08 PM
>> To: ViPone list 
>> Subject: New voices iOS 16
>>
>>
>>
>> I personally like the following new voices.
>>
>> Scotland, Fiona enhanced, UK Jamie premium, and Ava prrmium.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end 
>> of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we 
>> do” ~ John Ruskin
>>
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>
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RE: New voices iOS 16

[Star Gazer]

Exactly. It 
sounded like s*** to be blunt about it 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
rick.alf...@gmail.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 4:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

 

I was really looking forward to using eloquence on my iPhone as it’s definitely 
my synth of choice on my PC but was honestly disappointed. It sounds like a 
much lower quality version than what I’m used to. I’m glad the choicer is there 
but I went back to either Alex or one of the Siri voices. I think they need an 
enhanced version of eloquence.  

 

 

 

Warmest regards

 

Rick Alfaro

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 3:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

 

I agree.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
literophi...@myself.com  
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 2:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

 

Eloquence  rocks!

 

Best,

Leo Bado

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Dennis Long
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 8:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

 

If you don't want it you don't have to use.  I love that Apple included it.  It 
is the best voice out there.

 

-Original Message-

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com < 
 viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Carolyn

Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 10:36 AM

To:   viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

 

I agree, Christopher. I don't want Eloquence. Besides, the iPhone speech speed 
can be adjusted. I currently have mine at 55% with Evan Enhanced. I can 
understand Evan well, think I'll stick with that one for a while anyway.  

 

-Original Message-

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com [ 
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain

Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 6:05 PM

To:   viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: RE: New voices iOS 16

 

Well, I used to use Eloquence on my PC and then I switched to eSpeak when I was 
using Linux. Now that I’m an old man, I figure I deserve a nice quality voice, 
and I’m not in a hurry like I was when I wore a younger man’s clothes!

 

 

 

--

 

Christopher (AKA CJ)

 

Chaltain at Outlook

 

 

 

From:   viphone@googlegroups.com < 
 viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles

Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 5:00 PM

To:   viphone@googlegroups.com

Subject: Re: New voices iOS 16

 

 

 

Her voice sounds really good. Premium quality is amazing on some of those 
voices that offer all three voice types. By the way, it was kind of funny to 
read your message. Christopher with the good news, voice singing your whole 
email message quite interesting. Indeed I switched it to eloquence though, 
because then I can hear it at a much faster speed that I’m used to reading 
emails in on my windows, computer. I usually have it set to 70% on my computer 
if you were wondering.

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

 

 

 

 

  On Sep 12, 2022, at 2:44 PM, Christopher Chaltain < 
 
chalt...@outlook.com  > wrote:

 

   

 

  I was already a fan of Ava, so I can’t wait to check out the premium 
version!

 

  

 

  --

 

  Christopher (AKA CJ)

 

  Chaltain at Outlook

 

  

 

  From:   viphone@googlegroups.com < 
 mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  < 
 
viphone@googlegroups.com  > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner

  Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 4:08 PM

  To: ViPone list < 
 
viphone@googlegroups.com  >

  Subject: New voices iOS 16

 

  

 

  I personally like the following new voices.

 

  Scotland, Fiona enhanced, UK Jamie premium, and Ava prrmium.

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

 

  

RE: be careful or . . .

[Star Gazer]

Those nearly f**cked me yesterday, I clicked on 
them thinking I'd still get an understandable voice but no. I managed to scroll 
up and click on any voice, I don't know or care which one and got it to talk in 
a way I could understand. Those novelty voices need to just go away. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Curtis 
Delzer
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 3:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: be careful or . . .

  IN IOS16 which we downloaded, there is, below all the speech voices a heading 
 called "novelties."

Be careful, because these "novelties" completely  change or "novelize" 
the speech of the synthesizer they are making fun with and of.

There are ones which change the speech to the point of not understanding at all 
what is intended.

My wife accidentally activated "bells," which is a West Minster chime speaking 
but, she didn't know what happened.

and, forgot that if you have other languages in your rotor you can go to it and 
escape the nightmare of not knowing what is happening, what is being spoken and 
how to escape.

Remember one thing; you can audition the sound without activating it, or, for 
that matter listen to a voice without activating it either by flicking down on 
an item and one of the options is to "speak sample," 
which it would have done on the "bells" novelty except she activated it and for 
awhile we both were like in a country where the language and customs are 
completely not known in a condition where it was vital we knew what to do and 
how to act and could not. Like an actual nightmare. At first she was utterly 
lost and then she figured out that it was speaking, and then took some time to 
understand it for it was hard. My hearing is way below normal, but hers is 
extraordinarily excellent, however, the "bells" novelty was so different it 
took her some time to understand where she was and how to get back to some 
semblance of a speaking phone rather than one steeped in a belfry. First she 
couldn't understand enough to get anywhere or know from where to get to 
somewhere else, but after a while while we were both flummoxed, she understood 
enough to get words like "button," and others so she found the rotor and was 
then able to turn it to something other than at the time, her default language 
which was on "bells novelty," so wow, that was not fun.

There are definitely people in this world who have very little to do but . . . 
because some of those "novelties" are not fun at all.

Again, do remember to audition if you rely on your phone to speak to you to 
determine where you are, because you can get into a situation where your phone 
will not make sense, period.


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RE: Scheduling email

[Star Gazer]

Where on the email do you do a double tap and hold or 
triple tap? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
Chaffin
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 7:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Scheduling email


Jonathan Mosen goes through this in his latest podcast along with a lot of ios 
16 features.  I would recommend giving it a listen.

After composing an email, if you do a double tap and hold, or a triple tap, you 
can then choose when you want to send the email.

Hope this helps.

Chris


> On Sep 13, 2022, at 5:03 AM, Rafał Marzec  wrote:
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> Hello everyone, I’ve got just a quick question do you know where can I find 
> an option to schedule email in iOS 16?
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RE: Scheduling email

[Star Gazer]

Here can I find his podcasts? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
Chaffin
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2022 7:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Scheduling email


Jonathan Mosen goes through this in his latest podcast along with a lot of ios 
16 features.  I would recommend giving it a listen.

After composing an email, if you do a double tap and hold, or a triple tap, you 
can then choose when you want to send the email.

Hope this helps.

Chris


> On Sep 13, 2022, at 5:03 AM, Rafał Marzec  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone, I’ve got just a quick question do you know where can I find 
> an option to schedule email in iOS 16?
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RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

[Star Gazer]

Assuming they knew what voiceover was and most people 
don't, even my husband and kids who know what it is get vonfused as all get out 
with the black screen. It's quite entertaining 
A thief would probably just toss the phone which really isn't a problem in 
terms of data because of the cloud backups. 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 4:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

Yes, but all somebody would have to do is to press and hold the side button and 
tell SIRI "Turn off Voiceover" and off goes Voiceover and the screen curtain.
And you can be sure that people who make a living out of stealing and who 
potentially specialize on iPhones would know what Voiceover is and what screen 
curtain is.
A Google search for "iPhone screen is black" brought up lots of results about a 
non-responsive iPhone, but it also brought up an article about scret features 
of the iPhone and accessibility features and there it said:

Screen curtain to protect your privacy
Another great iPhone feature is called Screen Curtain, and it works using 
VoiceOver.
Let's say you want to check your bank balance on public transport, but you 
don't want anyone to see.
You can turn Screen Curtain on and it'll keep your phone awake and 
touch-sensitive – but turn the display off.
Then you can tap on the screen to scroll through items on the page, and listen 
to your bank balance read aloud.
Then simply turn Screen Curtain back off, and use your phone as normal.

To do this, go to Settings > General > Accessibility > VoiceOver, and turn it 
on.
Then to toggle Screen Curtain on or off, triple tap with three fingers.

I am not saying that many people have no idea what it is, but I am also saying 
don't totally rely on screen curtain to prevent the theft or unauthorized use 
of  your iPhone.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 12:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

Not if they know to do it, every person who I know that 
can see has looked at the phone gone "It's black" or "Um, I can't see nything" 
and then walked away all confused. This includes my kids, my husband, people I 
know love and trust. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 2:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

But anybody who knows just a little and you can assume any thief knows probably 
more than that can just turn Voiceover off and bingo, no more screen curtain.

-Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

Why didn't she use her own phone?
My phone makes a sound when it unlocks, I have it set as one of the haptic 
options I'd be having a serious talk with your friend about boundaries, or I'd 
make sure I had stuff on the phone that would embarrass her. 
Really though, this is a boundary issue not a phone issue. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 4:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

Kind of a sneaky thing to do behind your back. I'd have been pissed as well.

Chris Judge


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: September 11, 2022 11:43 PM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

You make an excellent point, Donna; you really do.

Theft is a real risk to those of us who are blind or low vision.

Not long ago, I was sitting on a couch next to a friend of mine and she picked 
up my 11 and pointed it at my face and unlocked my phone because she wanted to 
make a quick check of the weather; I saw her lift up the phone but, thinking it 
was my beloved 8 Plus, I forgot that she could unlock the device by simply 
pointing it towards me.

It was truly unsettling and I got angry, to say the least.  

I remember thinking, "what if I had not had enough vision to see her pick up my 
phone?"  Wow!

I just don't like Face ID!

Mark

-Original Message-
From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 12:25 PM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

I actually believe fingerprint unlock to be more secure than facial 
IDespecially for a blind person anyway. If a theif should slip our phone out of 
our pocket, purse etc or grab our phone fro

RE: New voices iOS 16

[Star Gazer]

They seemed to have fixed the weird speech 
patterns of Tom enhanced which is good because they drove me batty 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 5:08 PM
To: ViPone list 
Subject: New voices iOS 16

 

I personally like the following new voices.

Scotland, Fiona enhanced, UK Jamie premium, and Ava prrmium.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Richard

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

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RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

[Star Gazer]

Not if they know to do it, every person who I know that 
can see has looked at the phone gone "It's black" or "Um, I can't see nything" 
and then walked away all confused. This includes my kids, my husband, people I 
know love and trust. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 2:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

But anybody who knows just a little and you can assume any thief knows probably 
more than that can just turn Voiceover off and bingo, no more screen curtain.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

Why didn't she use her own phone?
My phone makes a sound when it unlocks, I have it set as one of the haptic 
options I'd be having a serious talk with your friend about boundaries, or I'd 
make sure I had stuff on the phone that would embarrass her. 
Really though, this is a boundary issue not a phone issue. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 4:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

Kind of a sneaky thing to do behind your back. I'd have been pissed as well.

Chris Judge


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: September 11, 2022 11:43 PM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

You make an excellent point, Donna; you really do.

Theft is a real risk to those of us who are blind or low vision.

Not long ago, I was sitting on a couch next to a friend of mine and she picked 
up my 11 and pointed it at my face and unlocked my phone because she wanted to 
make a quick check of the weather; I saw her lift up the phone but, thinking it 
was my beloved 8 Plus, I forgot that she could unlock the device by simply 
pointing it towards me.

It was truly unsettling and I got angry, to say the least.  

I remember thinking, "what if I had not had enough vision to see her pick up my 
phone?"  Wow!

I just don't like Face ID!

Mark

-Original Message-
From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 12:25 PM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

I actually believe fingerprint unlock to be more secure than facial 
IDespecially for a blind person anyway. If a theif should slip our phone out of 
our pocket, purse etc or grab our phone from our hand, they could lock the 
phone, turn the phone back on & point the camera at our face all within 15sec. 
It would take most people half this time to realize what just happened & to 
react. But oh well, facial ID is what Apple "thinks" to be more secure.

Donna
 
> 
> I've been using touch ID since I got my iPhone 11. I don't think it's new, 
> and I don't think it's hard to use as a blind person, but I do prefer touch 
> ID. I find it more reliable for me. I also find touch ID to be more 
> convenient. There are just times I want to unlock my phone without having to 
> put it in front of my face. Sometimes blind people can just prefer a feature 
> without it having to be all about their blindness or their unwillingness to 
> learn something new.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
> Of Mary Otten
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 1:56 PM
> To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?
> 
> I agree with whoever it was that said when they first got a phone with Face 
> ID, it was a little bit tricky. But I’ve had my 10 R now for some time, and 
> Face ID works just as reliably as touch ID. I have an old 7+ with touch ID. 
> And I have to use my pass code on that just about as often as I do on the 
> 10r. I think people make a big deal out of it because it’s new and they think 
> it’s hard if you’re blind. It isn’t. It does take getting used to, but so do 
> those gestures where you have to slide up from the bottom or down from the 
> top. Try it. Put your toe in the water, and you’ll find out it’s not that big 
> of a deal.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2022, at 10:26 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Dennis and Everyone,
>> 
>> Dennis I completely agree with your sentiment.
>> 
>> I was completely underwhelmed, at best, and absolutely disappointed, at 
>> worst, with iPhone release this time around.
>> 
>> I was hoping

RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

[Star Gazer]

Yes, I keep mine in direct 
contact with my body. Also turning the screen curtain saves battery life, 
everything still works, just the display is dark which seems to drive people 
who can see absolutely crazy. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 11:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

 

I keep my phone in my pocket the only person who gets their hands on my phone 
it’s me.

Sent from my iPhone





On Sep 12, 2022, at 11:06 AM, Esther Levegnale mailto:elevegn...@sbcglobal.net> > wrote:

Wow!  What a terribly sneaky thing to do to you!  I never put in Face ID, and 
was seriously thinking of doing that, but now that I read your post, I'll stick 
to my pass code.  However, what if someone sees me punching in the numbers?  
Oops!  That would be horrible if that happened.

 

I feel so badly for you.

 

Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!





On Sep 12, 2022, at 4:50 AM, chrisjudge1...@gmail.com 
  wrote:

Kind of a sneaky thing to do behind your back. I'd have been pissed as well.

Chris Judge


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of M. 
Taylor
Sent: September 11, 2022 11:43 PM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com  
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

You make an excellent point, Donna; you really do.

Theft is a real risk to those of us who are blind or low vision.

Not long ago, I was sitting on a couch next to a friend of mine and she picked 
up my 11 and pointed it at my face and unlocked my phone because she wanted to 
make a quick check of the weather; I saw her lift up the phone but, thinking it 
was my beloved 8 Plus, I forgot that she could unlock the device by simply 
pointing it towards me.

It was truly unsettling and I got angry, to say the least.  

I remember thinking, "what if I had not had enough vision to see her pick up my 
phone?"  Wow!

I just don't like Face ID!

Mark

-Original Message-
From: vipho...@googlegroups.com   
mailto:vipho...@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Donna Casteen
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 12:25 PM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

I actually believe fingerprint unlock to be more secure than facial 
IDespecially for a blind person anyway. If a theif should slip our phone out of 
our pocket, purse etc or grab our phone from our hand, they could lock the 
phone, turn the phone back on & point the camera at our face all within 15sec. 
It would take most people half this time to realize what just happened & to 
react. But oh well, facial ID is what Apple "thinks" to be more secure.

Donna




 

I've been using touch ID since I got my iPhone 11. I don't think it's new, and 
I don't think it's hard to use as a blind person, but I do prefer touch ID. I 
find it more reliable for me. I also find touch ID to be more convenient. There 
are just times I want to unlock my phone without having to put it in front of 
my face. Sometimes blind people can just prefer a feature without it having to 
be all about their blindness or their unwillingness to learn something new.

 

--

Christopher (AKA CJ)

Chaltain at Outlook

 

-Original Message-

From: vipho...@googlegroups.com   
mailto:vipho...@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten

Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 1:56 PM

To: vipho...@googlegroups.com  

Subject: Re: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

 

I agree with whoever it was that said when they first got a phone with Face ID, 
it was a little bit tricky. But I’ve had my 10 R now for some time, and Face ID 
works just as reliably as touch ID. I have an old 7+ with touch ID. And I have 
to use my pass code on that just about as often as I do on the 10r. I think 
people make a big deal out of it because it’s new and they think it’s hard if 
you’re blind. It isn’t. It does take getting used to, but so do those gestures 
where you have to slide up from the bottom or down from the top. Try it. Put 
your toe in the water, and you’ll find out it’s not that big of a deal.

 

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Sep 10, 2022, at 10:26 PM, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> 
> wrote:

 

Hello Dennis and Everyone,

 

Dennis I completely agree with your sentiment.

 

I was completely underwhelmed, at best, and absolutely disappointed, at worst, 
with iPhone release this time around.

 

I was hoping for some form of TouchID but, not gonna happen.

 

Removing the SIM tray on the US models is somewhat concerning as A T & T 
Wireless has had 

RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

[Star Gazer]

Why didn't she use her own phone?
My phone makes a sound when it unlocks, I have it set as one of the haptic 
options
I'd be having a serious talk with your friend about boundaries, or I'd make 
sure I had stuff on the phone that would embarrass her. 
Really though, this is a boundary issue not a phone issue. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chrisjudge1...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 4:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

Kind of a sneaky thing to do behind your back. I'd have been pissed as well.

Chris Judge


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: September 11, 2022 11:43 PM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

You make an excellent point, Donna; you really do.

Theft is a real risk to those of us who are blind or low vision.

Not long ago, I was sitting on a couch next to a friend of mine and she picked 
up my 11 and pointed it at my face and unlocked my phone because she wanted to 
make a quick check of the weather; I saw her lift up the phone but, thinking it 
was my beloved 8 Plus, I forgot that she could unlock the device by simply 
pointing it towards me.

It was truly unsettling and I got angry, to say the least.  

I remember thinking, "what if I had not had enough vision to see her pick up my 
phone?"  Wow!

I just don't like Face ID!

Mark

-Original Message-
From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Donna 
Casteen
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 12:25 PM
To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?

I actually believe fingerprint unlock to be more secure than facial 
IDespecially for a blind person anyway. If a theif should slip our phone out of 
our pocket, purse etc or grab our phone from our hand, they could lock the 
phone, turn the phone back on & point the camera at our face all within 15sec. 
It would take most people half this time to realize what just happened & to 
react. But oh well, facial ID is what Apple "thinks" to be more secure.

Donna
 
> 
> I've been using touch ID since I got my iPhone 11. I don't think it's new, 
> and I don't think it's hard to use as a blind person, but I do prefer touch 
> ID. I find it more reliable for me. I also find touch ID to be more 
> convenient. There are just times I want to unlock my phone without having to 
> put it in front of my face. Sometimes blind people can just prefer a feature 
> without it having to be all about their blindness or their unwillingness to 
> learn something new.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: vipho...@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2022 1:56 PM
> To: vipho...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?
> 
> I agree with whoever it was that said when they first got a phone with Face 
> ID, it was a little bit tricky. But I’ve had my 10 R now for some time, and 
> Face ID works just as reliably as touch ID. I have an old 7+ with touch ID. 
> And I have to use my pass code on that just about as often as I do on the 
> 10r. I think people make a big deal out of it because it’s new and they think 
> it’s hard if you’re blind. It isn’t. It does take getting used to, but so do 
> those gestures where you have to slide up from the bottom or down from the 
> top. Try it. Put your toe in the water, and you’ll find out it’s not that big 
> of a deal.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 10, 2022, at 10:26 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Dennis and Everyone,
>> 
>> Dennis I completely agree with your sentiment.
>> 
>> I was completely underwhelmed, at best, and absolutely disappointed, at 
>> worst, with iPhone release this time around.
>> 
>> I was hoping for some form of TouchID but, not gonna happen.
>> 
>> Removing the SIM tray on the US models is somewhat concerning as A T & T 
>> Wireless has had some problems with Activating and maintaining the account 
>> settings when eSim is activated.  This is according to several articles I've 
>> read, recently.
>> 
>> I just don't know, I just don't know.
>> 
>> I have been trying to get used to FaceID via iPhone 11 but am definitely 
>> going to miss Touch ID.
>> 
>> Be that as it may, I plan to get an iPhone 14 Pro Max; not in the first 
>> couple of months; figure I'll give carriers and Apple time to break in the 
>> new models (smile), specifically eSIM activation but I am on the path to 
>> iPhone 14.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Dennis Long
>> Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2022 2:22 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Does iPhone 14 have Lidar capability?
>> 
>> The phones were terrible in my opinion they offered nothing.  Hopefully they 

RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Star Gazer]

This is very helpful. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 1:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

There are two ways to call emergency services with the side button and both of 
these methods can be disabled in Settings > Emergency SOS:

1. Call with Hold, the explanation reads:
Press and hold the side button and either volume button to make an emergency 
call. In certain regions you may need to specify an emergency service to dial. 
Auto call requires a SIM card.
If you swipe right you then have the "Call with Hold" button which will either 
say On or Off and you can double tap on it to toggle it.
If you swipe right again there is a further explanation:
If you press and hold the side button and volume buttons the emergency SOS 
slider appears. If you continue to hold them a countdown begins and an alert 
sounds. When the countdown ends iPhone calls emergency services.

2. Call with 5 presses
Rapidly pressing the side button 5 times starts a countdown and sounds an 
alert. When the countdown ends iPhone calls emergency services.

I personally have the press and hold option turned on since it is very 
difficult to accidently press and  hold either volume up or volume down along 
with the side button. Taking a screenshot requires you to also press volume up 
and the side button, but you simply press and release and I have never even 
come close to triggering the emergency SOS. Also, keep in mind that as long as 
you don't panic you can still cancel the emergency call, I believe the 
countdown lasts 5 minutes and there is a cancel button which allows you to stop 
it before the call.

Pressing the side button 5 times can be a bit easier to do accidently since 
most people set up the side button to turn Voiceover on or off with a triple 
press. If somebody maybe has some motor difficulties I could see how they may 
press the button 5 times instead of 3 times.

As for using the side button by itself to invoke SIRI is not a problem and 
there is no way you can call emergency services this way.
In the same way there really is no way you can make an emergency call if you 
press the buttons to power off your phone because you press them in sequence 
and not together: first press and release volume up, then press and release 
volume down and then press and hold the side button for just a moment until 
Voiceover says "Power off button".
There used to be a button on that same screen which allowed you to also call 
Emergency Services, but it's been removed in a recent iOS update and now all 
you have on that screen is Power Off, a button with a funny Voiceover label 
which says something about "Location fill radio waves left and right" and it 
has to do with whether your iPhone can be found with Find My after it has been 
powered off and lastly there is a cancel button.
If you are still worried you can always bring up the Power Off menu by going to 
Settings > General > Shutdown, it does the same thing as pressing volume up, 
volume down and the side button.


You have to press the side button 5 times quickly in order to bring up 
emergency calling.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

This is helpful. I have always been afraid of messing 
with the side buttons, am afraid I will call 911, is there a way to deactivate 
the side buttons for emergency calls? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 1:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

When I turn on my Asus Zenbook laptop I have absolutely no feedback until the 
Windows startup sound plays which is almost simultaneous to when Jaws starts 
speaking and it takes about 10 seconds from when I press the power button. The 
power button is just like any other button on the keyboard so once again, you 
press it and assume the laptop turns on which of course it does and then you 
get the startup sound and Jaws starts to speak at the logon screen.
Now, here my iPhone 11: I press the side button (power button) and hold it for 
a 4 count and then let go. Then just as with my laptop I wait about 12 or 15 
seconds (probably depends a bit on your phone) and then I hear a little jingle 
and Voiceover comes up and I am asked to enter my PIN.
The difference: really none and not a process where you can do anything wrong.
When I want to power off my iPhone I press volume up, volume down and then I 
press and hold the side butto

RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

[Star Gazer]

I’m wondering how it checks basal body temp, the only way I know to do it is to 
put the thermometer in places I sure don’t want my phone going 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, September 9, 2022 12:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

 

Good thing you won't get pregnant any more, you already reached your 
man-o-pause 50 years ago

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mr. 
Ed
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 1:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

 

Hi Sieghard,

You better get one of these new apple  watches to check your temperature  so 
you can check to make sure you don’t get pregnant. That would be a bad thing. 

Mr. Ed

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2022 3:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

 

The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and the 
build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during the event that 
temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for cycle tracking and may help 
women who are wanting to get pregnant, they did not say you could simply use it 
to measure your body temperature as you can with a Withings Thermo or other 
body temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or not.

T

He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba diving than I 
currently do once every couple of years when I go to the Philippines I might be 
tempted to see how accessible it is as a dive computer; but it's definitely an 
impressive watch.

 

The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they didn't say 
it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple released a new iPhone 
and they kept using the same chip as in the one from the year before.

The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera system 
and always-on display possible.

I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency SOS via 
satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when they said it was 
going to be free for the next 2 years. This would indicate, however, that 
ultimately it will be  a paid service and of course let's not forget that it is 
only available for the United States and Canada at that point. For once Canada 
is getting something at launch which was not always the case (Apple New, Apple 
Pay and other features are examples where it took a while for Canada to get it).

Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you are driving 
with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will never happen) you may 
get help quicker.

As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14 Plus.

Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured.

Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14 models will 
now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now on.

 

Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13 or 13 Pro 
has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you spend considerable 
time out of cell service and may want the added peace of mind the emergency SOS 
via satellite offers; you can also share your location via Find My by 
satellite, but I haven't quite figured out if you can simply send text messages 
to somebody else, but I don't think so. If you have dedicated devices like 
Garmin's Inreach or a Zoleo satellite messenger which of course also requires 
you to subscribe to one of their plans, you can text anybody and receive text 
replies from anybody and you don't have to make a big production of pointing 
your iPhone to where the satellite is. An Inreach or Zoleo in fact can be in 
your backpack's top pocket and it works just fine and none of these devices 
have an external antenna which during the presentation Apple hinted would be 
required. Anyways, the satellite SOS is definitely a good start and once again 
something new and innovative Apple has introduced and I would bet money on it 
that within the next year or so Android phones will be released which also have 
this. What surprised me was that Apple seems to have set u p their own centre 
for this, but that is probably the only way they can offer this for free and 
they also didn't say which satellite network they use for this, i.e. Iridium or 
Globalstar.

 

Will I upgrade from my iPhone 11? I honestly haven't decided, but if I do it 
would definitely be to a 14 Pro because then at least I would also gain the 
LiDAR feature. 

As for the Apple Watch I think I'll stick with my sixth Gen watch, it 

RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Star Gazer]

This is helpful. I have always been afraid of messing 
with the side buttons, am afraid I will call 911, is there a way to deactivate 
the side buttons for emergency calls? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 1:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

When I turn on my Asus Zenbook laptop I have absolutely no feedback until the 
Windows startup sound plays which is almost simultaneous to when Jaws starts 
speaking and it takes about 10 seconds from when I press the power button. The 
power button is just like any other button on the keyboard so once again, you 
press it and assume the laptop turns on which of course it does and then you 
get the startup sound and Jaws starts to speak at the logon screen.
Now, here my iPhone 11: I press the side button (power button) and hold it for 
a 4 count and then let go. Then just as with my laptop I wait about 12 or 15 
seconds (probably depends a bit on your phone) and then I hear a little jingle 
and Voiceover comes up and I am asked to enter my PIN.
The difference: really none and not a process where you can do anything wrong.
When I want to power off my iPhone I press volume up, volume down and then I 
press and hold the side button for just a second or so and Voiceover will say 
"Power Off button", I double tap on it and the phone shuts down. Once again I 
don't find there really is any margin for error, but if you really want to know 
when the phone has powered off completely (it takes about 10 seconds) just plug 
in a headset when you do this and a few seconds after you double tap on power 
off you will hear a distinctive little click sound in your headset and this 
means the phone is now fully off. If you are turning your phone off to reboot 
it, you can simply count to 20 after  you tap on power off before you press and 
hold the side button for 4 seconds to power it up again.

z



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 9:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

I agree, the lack of feedback when the phone is 
powering up drives me batty 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Scott 
Davert
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

I wish we could also have the privative yet effective vibration alert that the 
phone is booting up. Kind of like when your device connects to AC power, but 
some sort of verification that the device is coming online. I think it's cool 
they have this feature, I wish it had been more universally designed. Oh well, 
I've lived without it before, I can continue to do so. LOL

Scott

On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> I was wondering that myself.  Would the sound chime as soon as you hit 
> your power button, or take a little time.  Some very interesting 
> things coming out in the apple world these days.
>
> On 9/8/22, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
>> It's going to be interesting to see at what point exactly the sound 
>> is played. Obviously the longer the delay between power on and sound 
>> the less useful it becomes. Definitely some impressive engineering 
>> going on if they got it to a point where iBoot was able to handle 
>> audio. In an ideal world it would also sound if you had a corrupt iOS 
>> install.
>>
>> Obviously not something to go out and buy a Pro for on its own, but 
>> you'd imagine that the feature will trickle down to less expensive 
>> models over the years.
>>
>> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>> The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip.  Darn.
>>> This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to 
>>> look forward to when I get a new iPhone.  If only I'd waited for the 
>>> iPhone 14 pro max.
>>>
>>> On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>> If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be 
>>>> part of the
>>>> A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 
>>>> Mini and
>>>> 13 Pro/Pro Max.
>>>> Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip.
>>>>
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of CHELA Robles
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Model

RE: ios messenger app - very good news the spoken phrase add as a favorite has gone

[Star Gazer]

How? It isn't obvious to me. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
davycupp...@gmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 5:25 PM
To: davycupp...@gmail.com
Subject: ios messenger app - very good news the spoken phrase add as a favorite 
has gone

Hi folks 

Please do update tot he latest ios messenger app, the annoying phrase spoken 
with each contact, added as favorite, has eventually been gone throug this 
update. 

I am very greatful for those who reported it tot he facebook accessibility.
Regards
Davy 

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RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

[Star Gazer]

Get me smart, how does one get to the dynamic island? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ben 
Mustill-Rose
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

The dynamic island will be interesting to play with. I met up with a friend the 
other day and in the process of that there was a point where I was messaging 
them on Whatsapp whilst waiting for an Uber to arrive, but I kept on having to 
switch between the 2 apps to check the progress of the driver. Having Whatsapp 
on the main screen but then being able to just slide my finger up to the island 
to get an at a glance type overview of the Uber will be really useful. Same for 
things like playback controls if I'm listening to music / a podcast while I'm 
doing something else on the phone. Interesting, but not interesting enough to 
make a purchase though, especially given my new SE2022.

On 9/8/22, Alan Lemly  wrote:
> The article I read said the chime feature was only available on the 
> iPhone
> 14 Pro models since it is part of the A16 chip.
>
> Alan Lemly
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 8, 2022, at 12:19 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>> It is my understanding that the chime is a new accessibility option 
>> which all iPhone 14 models have.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of CHELA Robles
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:01 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14
>>
>> I also read the pro models will have a chime at start up. I will 
>> forward the email I got.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Sep 7, 2022, at 8:35 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
>>>
>>> The satellite alert was the most compelling part of the presentation.
>>> An article in Mac Rumors says the service will not be available 
>>> until November. It will also not work above 62 degrees latitude, 
>>> which is the far northern parts of Canada and Alaska.
>>>
>>> I believe Apple is offering it free because it wants to be the first 
>>> phone with satellite communication. It has not figured out how to 
>>> price the service and who should provide it long term so Apple is 
>>> giving itself two years to figure all of this out.
>>>
>>> Personally, I live in a big city and use Verizon as my network, 
>>> which has the greatest amount of coverage of any cell phone network 
>>> in America. I would rarely if ever need the service. I love my 13 
>>> Mini and will wait until at least for the USB-C iPhones.
>>>
>>> Kelly
>>>
>>>
> On 9/7/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection 
 and the build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said 
 during the event that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively 
 used for cycle tracking and may help women who are wanting to get 
 pregnant, they did not say you could simply use it to measure your 
 body temperature as you can with a Withings Thermo or other body 
 temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or not.
 T
 He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba 
 diving than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to 
 the Philippines I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a 
 dive computer; but it's definitely an impressive watch.

 The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they 
 didn't say it in so many words; I think that is the first time 
 Apple released a new iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in 
 the one from the year before.
 The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new 
 camera system and always-on display possible.
 I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency 
 SOS via satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised 
 when they said it was going to be free for the next 2 years. This 
 would indicate, however, that ultimately it will be  a paid service 
 and of course let's not forget that it is only available for the 
 United States and Canada at that point.
 For once Canada is getting something at launch which was not always 
 the case (Apple New, Apple Pay and other features are examples 
 where it took a while for Canada to get it).
 Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you 
 are driving with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will 
 never happen) you may get help quicker.
 As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 
 14 Plus.
 Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured.
 Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14 
 models will now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from 
 now on.

 Apart from that this is pretty 

RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Star Gazer]

I agree, the lack of feedback when the phone is 
powering up drives me batty 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Scott 
Davert
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

I wish we could also have the privative yet effective vibration alert that the 
phone is booting up. Kind of like when your device connects to AC power, but 
some sort of verification that the device is coming online. I think it's cool 
they have this feature, I wish it had been more universally designed. Oh well, 
I've lived without it before, I can continue to do so. LOL

Scott

On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> I was wondering that myself.  Would the sound chime as soon as you hit 
> your power button, or take a little time.  Some very interesting 
> things coming out in the apple world these days.
>
> On 9/8/22, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
>> It's going to be interesting to see at what point exactly the sound 
>> is played. Obviously the longer the delay between power on and sound 
>> the less useful it becomes. Definitely some impressive engineering 
>> going on if they got it to a point where iBoot was able to handle 
>> audio. In an ideal world it would also sound if you had a corrupt iOS 
>> install.
>>
>> Obviously not something to go out and buy a Pro for on its own, but 
>> you'd imagine that the feature will trickle down to less expensive 
>> models over the years.
>>
>> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>> The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip.  Darn.
>>> This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to 
>>> look forward to when I get a new iPhone.  If only I'd waited for the 
>>> iPhone 14 pro max.
>>>
>>> On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be 
 part of the
 A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 
 Mini and
 13 Pro/Pro Max.
 Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip.

 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
 Of CHELA Robles
 Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will 
 Have a New Chime During Startup


 Sent from my iPhone

 Begin forwarded message:
 From: David Goldfield
 mailto:david.goldfi...@outlook.com>>
 Date: September 7, 2022 at 8:52:13 PM PDT
 To: Tech-VI Announcement List
 mailto:tech...@groups.io>>
 Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a 
 New Chime During Startup
 Reply-To: tech...@groups.io
 
 From the Tech-VI list owner:
 The iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max models will have the ability to play 
 a chime during the boot process. This has been an option which many 
 blind iPhone users have wanted for years. Rather than posting the 
 entire article I am pasting just the relevant section below. If you 
 go to the original source link you can hear what the new chime 
 sounds like. Please note that on my PC the sound was a bit louder 
 than expected. Those using headphones, earbuds or who have 
 sensitivity to loud sounds should be aware of this.

 Original
 Source


 Boot chime for iPhone 14 Pro

 Another new feature coming to iPhone 14 Pro models is a boot chime.
 More
 specifically, users will have the option to make the iPhone play a 
 sound every time the device is turned on or off as part of the iOS 
 accessibility features.

 Since the startup sound is played during the boot process, the 
 chime is part of the bootrom of the new A16 chip – which is 
 probably why this option is not available for other iPhone models.


 David Goldfield,
 Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist [JAWS Certified, 
 2022]
 NVDA Certified Expert

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RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

[Star Gazer]

What is the chime supposed to do, just be like 
a "hey I'm alive now" indicator? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 1:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

It is my understanding that the chime is a new accessibility option which all 
iPhone 14 models have.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: First thoughts on Apple Watch series 8 and iPhone 14

I also read the pro models will have a chime at start up. I will forward the 
email I got.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 7, 2022, at 8:35 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> The satellite alert was the most compelling part of the presentation.
> An article in Mac Rumors says the service will not be available until 
> November. It will also not work above 62 degrees latitude, which is 
> the far northern parts of Canada and Alaska.
> 
> I believe Apple is offering it free because it wants to be the first 
> phone with satellite communication. It has not figured out how to 
> price the service and who should provide it long term so Apple is 
> giving itself two years to figure all of this out.
> 
> Personally, I live in a big city and use Verizon as my network, which 
> has the greatest amount of coverage of any cell phone network in 
> America. I would rarely if ever need the service. I love my 13 Mini 
> and will wait until at least for the USB-C iPhones.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
>> On 9/7/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> The Apple Watch 8 has some good new features with crash detection and 
>> the build-in body temperature sensor, but from what they said during 
>> the event that temperature sensor seems to be exclusively used for 
>> cycle tracking and may help women who are wanting to get pregnant, 
>> they did not say you could simply use it to measure your body 
>> temperature as you can with a Withings Thermo or other body 
>> temperature thermometer to see if you have a fever or not.
>> T
>> He Apple Watch 8 Ultra sounds pretty cool and if I did more scuba 
>> diving than I currently do once every couple of years when I go to 
>> the Philippines I might be tempted to see how accessible it is as a 
>> dive computer; but it's definitely an impressive watch.
>> 
>> The iPhone 14 has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13 although they 
>> didn't say it in so many words; I think that is the first time Apple 
>> released a new iPhone and they kept using the same chip as in the one 
>> from the year before.
>> The iPhone 14 Pro gets the latest A16 chip which makes the new camera 
>> system and always-on display possible.
>> I thought it was nice to see that Apple included the new emergency 
>> SOS via satellite on both phones and I was definitely surprised when 
>> they said it was going to be free for the next 2 years. This would 
>> indicate, however, that ultimately it will be  a paid service and of 
>> course let's not forget that it is only available for the United States and 
>> Canada at that point.
>> For once Canada is getting something at launch which was not always 
>> the case (Apple New, Apple Pay and other features are examples where 
>> it took a while for Canada to get it).
>> Crash detection is also part of all iPhone 14 models so now if you 
>> are driving with somebody and you have a crash (let's hope it will 
>> never happen) you may get help quicker.
>> As expected the Mini is gone and replaced with the 6.7 inch iPhone 14 Plus.
>> Storage still tops out at 1 Tb so no 2 Tb phone as was rumoured.
>> Also, in the United States (not sure about Canada) all iPhone 14 
>> models will now no longer have a SIM tray, it is e-SIM only from now on.
>> 
>> Apart from that this is pretty much it. Anybody who has an iPhone 13 
>> or 13 Pro has in my opinion very little reason to upgrade unless you 
>> spend considerable time out of cell service and may want the added 
>> peace of mind the emergency SOS via satellite offers; you can also 
>> share your location via Find My by satellite, but I haven't quite 
>> figured out if you can simply send text messages to somebody else, 
>> but I don't think so. If you have dedicated devices like Garmin's 
>> Inreach or a Zoleo satellite messenger which of course also requires 
>> you to subscribe to one of their plans, you can text anybody and 
>> receive text replies from anybody and you don't have to make a big 
>> production of pointing your iPhone to where the satellite is. An 
>> Inreach or Zoleo in fact can be in your backpack's top pocket and it 
>> works just fine and none of these devices have an external antenna 
>> which during the presentation Apple hinted would be required.
>> Anyways, the satellite SOS is definitely a good start and once again 
>> something new and innovative Apple has introduced and I 

RE: ios messenger app - very good news the spoken phrase add as a favorite has gone

[Star Gazer]

Thank you for this. Anybody know why they added 
it in the first place? Annoying af 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wendy Lin
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ios messenger app - very good news the spoken phrase add as a 
favorite has gone

Thanks man, I’ll definitely update my Messenger app. Yeah that is annoying for 
sure when Voiceover announces every chats and messages favourited.

> On Sep 7, 2022, at 5:25 PM,   
> wrote:
> 
> Hi folks
> 
> Please do update tot he latest ios messenger app, the annoying phrase 
> spoken with each contact, added as favorite, has eventually been gone 
> throug this update.
> 
> I am very greatful for those who reported it tot he facebook accessibility.
> Regards
> Davy
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RE: Face ID hit or miss

[Star Gazer]

I agree with you, I'm not sure I'm  fan of fice 
id either. You've gotten some good tips. Rather then mucking around with the 
sim card, why not just turn off passcode and face id? That'd be what I'd do.
   

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
SoonerAnnie
Sent: Saturday, September 3, 2022 7:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Face ID hit or miss

Hi all, 

Subject pretty much says it all. I just bought an iPhone 13 mini and have set 
up Face ID with no difficulty; however, it seems that it'll work two or three 
times and then will require me to use my pass code to unlock my phone. I am 
getting very tempted to put my SIM card back in my SE 20 lol. It's much easier 
to just reach over and unlock it with my finger than to pick up my mini and 
hope I can get it to unlock without having to type in my pass code. Any 
suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks for reading. 


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RE: Embarrassing question.

[Star Gazer]

Some people are just nasty when anything involving sex 
or dating comes up... either that or she didn't read the same post everybody 
else read. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2022 9:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Nothing wrong with it at all. I can't believe someone had the nerve to say that 
the person that asked this question should be blocked.
Seriously what is wrong with the world.

On 8/31/22, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
> What is the difference in what has been asked for than asking about 
> any other web site's accessibility on an iPhone? What an uproar. I do 
> not get it.
>
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> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Jenny Bomareto
> Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2022 3:01 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Embarrassing question.
>
> The original poster regarding this topic should be very embarrassed as 
> this is the wrong group to be talking about stuff like this even 
> though I’m not the moderator of the group this is horrible stuff.  In 
> my opinion I think the original poster that posted that’s been talking 
> about all this should be blocked so he’s not allowed to send any email.
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RE: Embarrassing question

[Star Gazer]

Right, all I meant was don't let the emphasis 
on photos prevent you from using an app, post a picture that you like that is 
accurate and enjoy. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2022 9:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Embarrassing question

Of course that doesn't mean that sighted people don't want to see photos, and 
of course if you plan on meeting them in person then faking a photo won't help 
you.

On 8/31/22, Ann Byrne  wrote:
> And, of course, it might not be a real photo anyway.
> At 08:04 AM 8/31/2022, you wrote:
>> Know too that there is nothing 
>> magical about photos online, if you don't know what people look like 
>> anyway due to blindness or whatever, then you won't know what they 
>> look like online either so there will be no change from what you're 
>> used to.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>M. Taylor
>>Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2022 6:34 PM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: RE: Embarrassing question
>>
>>Hello Chaim,
>>
>>This is an excellent question and one that has come up in the past.
>>
>>In terms of free dating solutions, Facebook does offer a dating 
>>feature that is based, in theory, on your physical location.  As far 
>>as I know, this feature is only available on iPhone and does not yet 
>>work on iPad.
>>
>>Plenty of Fish is another dating solution that is screen reader 
>>accessible and offers a web browser interface as well as iPad and 
>>iPhone apps.
>>
>>Keep in mind that any mainstream dating solution will be based on 
>>photos. So, even if virtually every aspect of the dating app / site is 
>>screen accessible, there will be a learning curve involved.
>>
>>Mark
>>
>>From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>chaim biberfeld
>>Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2022 7:05 AM
>>To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>Subject: Embarrassing question
>>
>>I am lonely. Is there a fully accessible and safe "hook up" app or 
>>website? Hope I'm not offending  anyone!
>>Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
>>Private Practice
>>tel:917-902-3349
>>
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RE: Embarrassing question

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Know too that there is nothing magical about 
photos online, if you don't know what people look like anyway due to blindness 
or whatever, then you won't know what they look like online either so there 
will be no change from what you're used to. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2022 6:34 PM
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Cc: vipho...@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Embarrassing question

Hello Chaim,

This is an excellent question and one that has come up in the past.

In terms of free dating solutions, Facebook does offer a dating feature that is 
based, in theory, on your physical location.  As far as I know, this feature is 
only available on iPhone and does not yet work on iPad.

Plenty of Fish is another dating solution that is screen reader accessible and 
offers a web browser interface as well as iPad and iPhone apps.  

Keep in mind that any mainstream dating solution will be based on photos. So, 
even if virtually every aspect of the dating app / site is screen accessible, 
there will be a learning curve involved.  

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of chaim 
biberfeld
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2022 7:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Embarrassing question

I am lonely. Is there a fully accessible and safe "hook up" app or website? 
Hope I'm not offending  anyone!
Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
tel:917-902-3349

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RE: Embarrassing question.

[Star Gazer]

No, he was only 
asking about dating sites that may be accessible, a question that makes sense 
given how people describe sites like Tinder as being picture based. They are, 
but all anybody needs to do is ignore the pictures and read whatever data 
people post about themselves, taking all of it with a grain of salt, or maybe 
more politely, using the skills we all have and use each and every day to make 
decisions about who we do and do not want to deal with and what those dealings 
may look like. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jenny 
Bomareto
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2022 4:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Embarrassing question.

 

Sorry for what I said earlier. To me it sounded like the original poster who 
posted the question was asking how he could date. So again my sincere apologies.

Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
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Re: Embarrassing question.

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Agreed why the embarrassment or the shaming ? Both of those feelings and 
attitudes is what leads to a person becoming a victim v. Using the sites 
responsibily 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 30, 2022, at 15:16, Chikodinaka Oguledo  
> wrote:
> 
> i did not do it it is some 1else not me
> 
>> On 8/30/22, alia robinson  wrote:
>> why should someone be embarrassed about asking for accessible apps for their
>> phone too hookup or date? why is talk of relationships embarrassing?! or
>> casual hookups either. there are sites for that, and if one is more
>> accessible than another it’s good for people looking to know. sex is not
>> embarrassing!
>> 
>>> On Aug 30, 2022, at 3:00 PM, Jenny Bomareto
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The original poster regarding this topic should be very embarrassed as
>>> this is the wrong group to be talking about stuff like this even though
>>> I’m not the moderator of the group this is horrible stuff.  In my opinion
>>> I think the original poster that posted that’s been talking about all this
>>> should be blocked so he’s not allowed to send any email.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
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RE: Embarrassing question

[Star Gazer]

Just hit up the 
dating sites. Nobody is vetted so I’m not sure how you’d verify safe, and then 
of course well, people have different ideas of what that means. 

 

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biberfeld
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Subject: Embarrassing question

 

I am lonely. Is there a fully accessible and safe "hook up" app or website? 
Hope I'm not offending  anyone!

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Re: Is there anyway to back up bard books on a phone that you’re getting rid of?

[Star Gazer]

We are sure and no you can’t transfer though I don’t know why other then the 
bard gods say no 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 2, 2022, at 10:21, Alan Lemly  wrote:
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> Steve, 
> 
> Yes, we're sure you cannot transfer downloaded BARD content from an old to a 
> new iDevice. Accessing previously downloaded content is the best way to 
> refresh memory on what might have been on the old device but the content has 
> to be downloaded again. 
> 
> Alan Lemly 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 2, 2022, at 7:52 AM, Steve Matzura  wrote:
>> 
>> Are you sure about that? Can't you transfer them to the new handset like 
>> you would transfer everything else?
>> 
>> 
 On 7/28/2022 11:37 PM, Shai wrote:
>>> Hello Mary,
>>> No, unfortunately one is not able to back up the Bard books for
>>> retrieval on a new device; they would have to be downloaded again.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 7/28/22, Mary Otten  wrote:
 I feel pretty certain that the answer to this question is no, but I’m 
 asking
 for a friend who has an iPhone 8 and is about to upgrade to a 14 Pro, I 
 mean
 a 13 Pro. Anyway, he says he has 200 bard books on his iPhone 8. Is there
 anyway to back up that so that he can get it on his new phone that he will
 be getting in a couple of weeks? I don’t think so, but I’m hoping I’m wrong
 and that somebody will have an answer.
 Mary
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RE: App switcher

[Star Gazer]

It does, but I 
can’t prove it, at least not right now. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of chaim 
biberfeld
Sent: Wednesday, July 13, 2022 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: App switcher

 

Good morning. Does anyone have a definitive answer as to whether leaving apps 
on in background as seen on app switcher, uses internal memory and processing 
or not?

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RE: screen recognition

[Star Gazer]

Because it sucks. I had to turn it off entirely and remove it 
from the order 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of chaim 
biberfeld
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2022 9:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: screen recognition

 

Any ideas why, having added "the screen recognition" to my rotor, it will not 
stay in the off position and pops back on when ever I change apps?

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RE: A suggestion to Apple

[Star Gazer]

Mine does the same thing. I also haven't seen 
where muting my phone turns off speech and/or voiceover. A low volume would but 
not muting. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Irons
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2022 12:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: A suggestion to Apple

Hi there I have found that if the phone is unlocked and you move the mute 
switch towards the back of the phone it actually says muted with voiceover if 
you move it towards the front it says I am muted. Also when the phone is locked 
if you move the switch to the mirror position the phone will vibrate. I have 
the iPhone SE 20. Also the switch would do the same thing with iPhone 6 if you 
switched it between muted and muted. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 10, 2022, at 10:14 AM, Alan Lemly  wrote:
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> Hi Maria,
> 
> I'm going to disagree here. If the mute setting was software based and 
> engaged by double tapping some button to turn it on, we might contact Apple 
> Accessibility to make its accidental engagement more apparent. However, since 
> mute is turned on by a physical switch whose setting can easily be verified 
> by touch, I don't think Apple Accessibility should be bothered with this.
> 
> Alan Lemly
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Maria 
> Campbell
> Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2022 7:38 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: A suggestion to Apple
> 
> I believe we should all contact Apple accessibility and suggest they put some 
> kind of way of letting us know our phone has been possibly accidentally 
> muted, just as they let us know airplane mode is on.
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Re: Glucose meter

[Star Gazer]

Real nice web site. I am married so can’t help you there though I am flattered 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 11, 2022, at 08:21, chaim biberfeld  wrote:
> 
> The website in my signature will help hopefully tell you more. Also I am 
> looking for a life partner, IE a wife. Feels like a full-time job feel free 
> to phone me 
> 
> Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
> Private Practice
> 917-902-3349
> 
> thegototherapist.com 
> 
>>> On Jul 8, 2022, at 8:47 AM, Star Gazer  wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> Noticed your signature, what exactly is it that you do? Write me off-list if 
>> you’d like.
>> Glad you liked my period joke, I just couldn’t help that one when I saw your 
>> email.
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of chaim 
>> biberfeld
>> Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2022 4:37 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Glucose meter
>>  
>> Oh yeah! Enjoy them while they're young because then they turn into 
>> teenagers, look out
>> 
>> Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
>> Private Practice
>> 917-902-3349
>>  
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>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 7, 2022, at 2:24 PM, Star Gazer  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Well, when you don’t get a . you have a lot of thinks to think about
>> As for the diabetic network, it’s n email list and it talks about diabetes 
>> what is accessible and what isn’t. You may find it useful, I’m not a big NFB 
>> fan, but the list was helpful when I needed it nd I haven’t unsubscribed.. 
>> and the baby that got me to join it in the later stages of my pregnancy with 
>> her is now in elementary school.
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of chaim 
>> biberfeld
>> Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2022 11:30 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Glucose meter
>>  
>> Adorable! What is the Nfb diabetic network about. Also, can I use the 
>> interstitial CGM  system for pre-diabetes as well?
>> on another subject, how come i used to be able to say period in dictate in  
>> order to get a period at the end of my sentences and now I have to use full 
>> stop?  old habits die hard and I spend much time erasing the word period!
>> 
>> Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
>> Private Practice
>> 917-902-3349
>>  
>> thegototherapist.com 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 6, 2022, at 4:38 PM, Star Gazer  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> You may also want to hop onto the NFB’s diabetic network.. ACB may have one 
>> too.
>> And my how times have changed, I had gestational diabetes when I was 
>> pregnant with my second child, and I remember having to do the finger sticks 
>> and using a talking glucose meter, at the time, there was nothing that could 
>> monitor through my skin.
>> Be prepared that the diabetes doctor may know nothing about what is or isn’t 
>> accessible, my doctors sure didn’t, prompting my then six-year-old to say “I 
>> thought doctors were supposed to be smart, we figured this out in ten 
>> minutes”.
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lynda 
>> Ingraham
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2022 2:38 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Glucose meter
>>  
>> I would highly recommend speaking to your doctor or diabetes educator about 
>> getting a Libre 2 glucose monitor. It is fully accessible with your iPhone. 
>> You were the sensor on your arm for two weeks and you can have it set for 
>> high and low glucose alerts. No need for fingersticks. My husband and I both 
>> use the Libre 2 and absolutely love it. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 5, 2022, at 12:49 PM, chaim biberfeld  wrote:
>> 
>> I have just been  diagnosed as pre-diabetic. does anyone know of an 
>> accurate easy to use talking glucose meter? Thank you
>> 
>> Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
>> Private Practice
>> 917-902-3349
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RE: can anyone out there use the Libby app from Overdrive?

[Star Gazer]

Can you tell me how to use the kindle app to read print books? Ideally I’d like 
to read using my Braille display having the text of the print book translated 
into Grade 2 or UEB Braille. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2022 5:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: can anyone out there use the Libby app from Overdrive?

 

I started using the Libby app yesterday, and for what I did, I found it 
accessible. I just used it to find and play an audio book. I did notice that 
you could configure it to use the Kindle app, so maybe that would help. I’ve 
definitely used the Kindle app to read print books, i.e. not audio books.

 

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Chaltain at Outlook

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Dan
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2022 3:16 PM
To: 'cwc' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: can anyone out there use the Libby app from Overdrive?

 

I have installed it and I thought I remembered some folks talking about using 
it with VO.  I have opened a book but I can't figure out how to read the book 
at all.  I see lots of controls but not text.  Oh yes, it is an ebook.

 

 

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RE: Glucose meter

[Star Gazer]

Noticed your signature, what exactly is it that you do? Write me off-list if 
you’d like. 

Glad you liked my period joke, I just couldn’t help that one when I saw your 
email. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of chaim 
biberfeld
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2022 4:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Glucose meter

 

Oh yeah! Enjoy them while they're young because then they turn into teenagers, 
look out

Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349  

 

thegototherapist.com 





On Jul 7, 2022, at 2:24 PM, Star Gazer mailto:pickrellrebe...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Well, when you don’t get a . you have a lot of thinks to think about 

As for the diabetic network, it’s n email list and it talks about diabetes what 
is accessible and what isn’t. You may find it useful, I’m not a big NFB fan, 
but the list was helpful when I needed it nd I haven’t unsubscribed.. and the 
baby that got me to join it in the later stages of my pregnancy with her is now 
in elementary school. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
chaim biberfeld
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2022 11:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Glucose meter

 

Adorable! What is the Nfb diabetic network about. Also, can I use the 
interstitial CGM  system for pre-diabetes as well?

on another subject, how come i used to be able to say period in dictate in  
order to get a period at the end of my sentences and now I have to use full 
stop?  old habits die hard and I spend much time erasing the word period!

Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349  

 

thegototherapist.com 






On Jul 6, 2022, at 4:38 PM, Star Gazer mailto:pickrellrebe...@gmail.com> > wrote:



You may also want to hop onto the NFB’s diabetic network.. ACB may have one 
too. 

And my how times have changed, I had gestational diabetes when I was pregnant 
with my second child, and I remember having to do the finger sticks and using a 
talking glucose meter, at the time, there was nothing that could monitor 
through my skin. 

Be prepared that the diabetes doctor may know nothing about what is or isn’t 
accessible, my doctors sure didn’t, prompting my then six-year-old to say “I 
thought doctors were supposed to be smart, we figured this out in ten minutes”. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Lynda Ingraham
Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2022 2:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Glucose meter

 

I would highly recommend speaking to your doctor or diabetes educator about 
getting a Libre 2 glucose monitor. It is fully accessible with your iPhone. You 
were the sensor on your arm for two weeks and you can have it set for high and 
low glucose alerts. No need for fingersticks. My husband and I both use the 
Libre 2 and absolutely love it. 

Sent from my iPhone







On Jul 5, 2022, at 12:49 PM, chaim biberfeld mailto:cbiberf...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I have just been  diagnosed as pre-diabetic. does anyone know of an accurate 
easy to use talking glucose meter? Thank you

Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349  

 

thegototherapist.com 

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RE: Glucose meter

[Star Gazer]

Lol, I know, I’ve got one.. I once heard a guy say that we know Abraham’s son 
was an adult when he was asked to sacrifice him.. had he been a teenager, it 
wouldn’t have been a sacrifice. Grin. 

Here is the link to the diabetes info

https://nfb.org/about-us/divisions-committees-and-groups/divisions/diabetes-action-network

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of chaim 
biberfeld
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2022 4:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Glucose meter

 

Oh yeah! Enjoy them while they're young because then they turn into teenagers, 
look out

Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349  

 

thegototherapist.com 





On Jul 7, 2022, at 2:24 PM, Star Gazer mailto:pickrellrebe...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Well, when you don’t get a . you have a lot of thinks to think about 

As for the diabetic network, it’s n email list and it talks about diabetes what 
is accessible and what isn’t. You may find it useful, I’m not a big NFB fan, 
but the list was helpful when I needed it nd I haven’t unsubscribed.. and the 
baby that got me to join it in the later stages of my pregnancy with her is now 
in elementary school. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
chaim biberfeld
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2022 11:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Glucose meter

 

Adorable! What is the Nfb diabetic network about. Also, can I use the 
interstitial CGM  system for pre-diabetes as well?

on another subject, how come i used to be able to say period in dictate in  
order to get a period at the end of my sentences and now I have to use full 
stop?  old habits die hard and I spend much time erasing the word period!

Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349  

 

thegototherapist.com 






On Jul 6, 2022, at 4:38 PM, Star Gazer mailto:pickrellrebe...@gmail.com> > wrote:



You may also want to hop onto the NFB’s diabetic network.. ACB may have one 
too. 

And my how times have changed, I had gestational diabetes when I was pregnant 
with my second child, and I remember having to do the finger sticks and using a 
talking glucose meter, at the time, there was nothing that could monitor 
through my skin. 

Be prepared that the diabetes doctor may know nothing about what is or isn’t 
accessible, my doctors sure didn’t, prompting my then six-year-old to say “I 
thought doctors were supposed to be smart, we figured this out in ten minutes”. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Lynda Ingraham
Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2022 2:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Glucose meter

 

I would highly recommend speaking to your doctor or diabetes educator about 
getting a Libre 2 glucose monitor. It is fully accessible with your iPhone. You 
were the sensor on your arm for two weeks and you can have it set for high and 
low glucose alerts. No need for fingersticks. My husband and I both use the 
Libre 2 and absolutely love it. 

Sent from my iPhone







On Jul 5, 2022, at 12:49 PM, chaim biberfeld mailto:cbiberf...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I have just been  diagnosed as pre-diabetic. does anyone know of an accurate 
easy to use talking glucose meter? Thank you

Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349  

 

thegototherapist.com 

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RE: Glucose meter

[Star Gazer]

Well, when you don’t get a . you have a lot of thinks to think about 

As for the diabetic network, it’s n email list and it talks about diabetes what 
is accessible and what isn’t. You may find it useful, I’m not a big NFB fan, 
but the list was helpful when I needed it nd I haven’t unsubscribed.. and the 
baby that got me to join it in the later stages of my pregnancy with her is now 
in elementary school. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of chaim 
biberfeld
Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2022 11:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Glucose meter

 

Adorable! What is the Nfb diabetic network about. Also, can I use the 
interstitial CGM  system for pre-diabetes as well?

on another subject, how come i used to be able to say period in dictate in  
order to get a period at the end of my sentences and now I have to use full 
stop?  old habits die hard and I spend much time erasing the word period!

Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349  

 

thegototherapist.com 





On Jul 6, 2022, at 4:38 PM, Star Gazer mailto:pickrellrebe...@gmail.com> > wrote:



You may also want to hop onto the NFB’s diabetic network.. ACB may have one 
too. 

And my how times have changed, I had gestational diabetes when I was pregnant 
with my second child, and I remember having to do the finger sticks and using a 
talking glucose meter, at the time, there was nothing that could monitor 
through my skin. 

Be prepared that the diabetes doctor may know nothing about what is or isn’t 
accessible, my doctors sure didn’t, prompting my then six-year-old to say “I 
thought doctors were supposed to be smart, we figured this out in ten minutes”. 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Lynda Ingraham
Sent: Tuesday, July 5, 2022 2:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Glucose meter

 

I would highly recommend speaking to your doctor or diabetes educator about 
getting a Libre 2 glucose monitor. It is fully accessible with your iPhone. You 
were the sensor on your arm for two weeks and you can have it set for high and 
low glucose alerts. No need for fingersticks. My husband and I both use the 
Libre 2 and absolutely love it. 

Sent from my iPhone






On Jul 5, 2022, at 12:49 PM, chaim biberfeld mailto:cbiberf...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I have just been  diagnosed as pre-diabetic. does anyone know of an accurate 
easy to use talking glucose meter? Thank you

Chaim Biberfeld, LCSW-R
Private Practice
917-902-3349  

 

thegototherapist.com 

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