phone not ringing on all calls

2014-01-14 Thread Troy Sullivan
I'm having a strange issue. Every once in a while I'll find I have a missed 
call and sometimes a voicemail and I'll think to myself, huh? how could that 
be? I never felt my phone vibrate nor heard it ring. I would also have people 
tell me I tried to call you but you didn't answer, and sure enough I'll go to 
missed calls and indeed see where that person has tried to call me. I've 
powered off and on the phone and still every once in a while a call will slip 
through and not ring. Do not disturb is off and this doesn't happen on every 
call either, I'd say maybe once every few days or so? Anyone else have this 
issue? I have the 4s running ios7.03. Is this a phone issue or an issue with 
verizon?
Thanks.

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Re: different observation concerning When will Apple take this seriously

2013-11-11 Thread Troy Sullivan

It may be a good thing as I hear candy crush is very adicting.
- Original Message - 
From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 2:49 PM
Subject: Re: different observation concerning When will Apple take this 
seriously



Exactly. Would love to play Candy Crush, Pet Rescue Saga and all that,
but to be honest they cannot be made accessible due to the nature of the
games. Am jealous of my sighted peers though grin.

E-mail Facebook and iMessage
christopher...@gmail.com

On 11/11/2013 18:16, John Diakogeorgiou wrote:

Michael I don't agree with what you are suggesting. Why should Apple
force a program which is of no use to the blind be forced to implaent
accessibility features?

On 11/11/13, Fred Olver goodfo...@charter.net wrote:
instead of having a going nowhere discussion about this why don't you 
all


who have such strong feelings express them to the apple accessibility 
folks.


I believe their email address is accessibil...@apple.com

Fred Olver
- Original Message -
From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: different observation concerning When will Apple take this
seriously


I agree. Apple's iOS has created a system whereby we have a better than 
50%


chance that any app we purchase will be at least partially accessible. 
This


is far better than any other platform on the market, whilst respecting 
the

app developer's right to develop and sell any type of app which brings or
enhances functionality to the iPhone. This is, indeed, the best system 
out

there. Because we are not suing people, they are actually more willing to
work collaboratively with us, and the developers who do not work with us
usually have competition which is willing to work with us.

As for the development of the gesture-based screen reader, it was 
well-known


by everybody, including the NFB, that blind people would not be able to 
use


a gesture-based screen reader. The standard proposals before VoiceOver 
came


out on the iPhone 3 GS included some form of button-based tactile overlay
which would be attached to the iPhone so blind people could successfully 
use


it. As this topic relates directly to my research, if anyone has any
credible source information that is different from the above (which all 
the


literature I have located thus far fully supports), please send me the
source citations so I can evaluate, and possibly use them.

As for the NFB, I recall that organisation becoming rather upset at Apple 
a


few years ago because Apple ignored requests from NFB for Apple to send a
highly placed staff member to the NFB's national convention for a reward 
on


behalf of the organised blind? As I understand it, this perceived snub of
the NFB by Apple encouraged a series of comparisons between Apple and
other products in the Braille Monitor which all demonstrated that Apple's
accessibility was very much sub-par in comparison to these other devices. 
I


would suggest you not pursue this line that the NFB had any influence 
over
Apple, because I have a very strong suspicion that the NFB will not be 
shown


in a very positive light if we examine the materials from that period of
time.
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 12 Nov 2013, at 5:05, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello,

Whoa!! Hold on a second.  lol.  The law suit you speak of was filed in
2006.  By this time, Apple had already put out Mac OSX 10.4 Tiger which
contained the Voiceover screen reader.  The courts Ruled in favor of the
NFB lead suit in September 2007.  By this time, the iPhone had only been
out 3 months.  The actual settlement wrapped up in September 2008.  By
June 2009, Voiceover was on the new iPhone 3Gs.  So where exactly in 
that


timeline did the NFB have the time to turn their sites on Apples lack of
accessibility?  I think you might be overstating the NFB’s influence 
quite


a bit here.  I mean, since you said “fresh off” that would leave the NFB
with only 8 months to turn their sights on Apple before Voiceover was
introduced on the iPhone.  So obviously, Voiceover and iOS 3.0 wasn’t
developed in 8 months.  The way Apple tells it, they had every intention
of adding a screen reader to IOS.  It took them over 2 years to actually
come up with a multi touch gesture based screen reader.

But with that aside, I think the word “partner” when speaking about 
Apple


and developers of IOS Apps should be used loosely.  I mean, there are
literally tens of thousands of developers creating and supporting 
hundreds


of thousands of apps.  Apple has made the platform accessible, and has
made literature easily available for developers to insure accessibility 
in


their apps.  In my opinion, Apple has done their job.  It’s now up to us
to interact with the developers like we’ve been doing to make sure

Re: Verizon problem: cannot dial out

2013-11-11 Thread Troy Sullivan
Have you had recent bad weather in the area? I noticed sometimes when it storms 
and such I won't be able to dial out, an example would be when we had the wind 
from hurricane ike a few years ago.
  - Original Message - 
  From: David Chittenden 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 11, 2013 1:26 PM
  Subject: Re: Verizon problem: cannot dial out


  What this message means, if I remember the US system correctly, is the phone 
is unable to receive any signal from your carrier's tower, so it is accessing 
any available tower. By law, all carrier's towers must transmit emergency calls 
for free. Therefore, you are being told that you can make an emergency call to 
911 if necessary. Otherwise, you do not have cellular coverage at this time.

  David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
  Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
  Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
  Sent from my iPhone

  On 12 Nov 2013, at 7:13, Cheryl Homiak cahom...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi all.


This is a little scary though I do have a landline phone from Charter I can 
use but rarely do. I cannot dial out on either of my iPhones; I get a message 
about the call not being able to be completed as dialed but the message says 
it's from US Celular and I am with Verizon. I think my signal on the phone is 
only something like 2 of 5 bars and it says extended network. It could be that 
a tower near me is malfunctioning. We might be having some snow here but that 
in itself shouldn't cause a problem. Since it is both phones, I don't think it 
is an issue with the phones themselves. Any suggestions?


-- 
Cheryl


May the words of my mouth
and the meditation of my heart
be acceptable to You, Lord,
my rock and my Redeemer.
(Psalm 19:14 HCSB)








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Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Troy Sullivan

well then if you don't like it just sell it and move on! Simple as that.
- Original Message - 
From: Wayne gmail  ewaynebrum...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 7:22 PM
Subject: RE: When will Apple take this seriously?


Or one can wait a while and IOS 7 will get better.  IOS 6 started with 
bugs

and ended up butterflies because each update included fixes and
improvements.  I'll bet that was true of the $4,000 Android phone as well.
After all it depends on the Android operating system which is relatively 
new

to accessibility and shows it.

I can easily recall picking up the phone, dialing the operator, and 
telling

her the long distance number I wanted to reach and waiting while she
connected me.  We tended to hold our analog watches where we could see 
them

because the long distance charges per minute could quickly mount into
serious money.  For me, I think IOS 7 is really greatsmile!

Regards,
Wayne

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of David Chittenden
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 5:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

Ok, go to American Printing House for the Blind, www.aph.org and check out
their braille android phone. I believe the cost is around $4000. It is a
phone specifically developed for the blind. It's specific functions work
well for the blind. You have your wish answered. Enjoy your $4000 Android
phone.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 11 Nov 2013, at 1:40, sen...@gmail.com wrote:

This is very frustrating. Hordes of emails have circulated with the many
shortcomings of IOS7. Many bugss and shortcomings that have appeared in 
ver

7 that were not in IOS6.

It becomes very frustrating when even the basic phone functions are

compromised.

1. Ending calls is a pain. Countless times I thought I had ended the call
but it was active. This has lead to embarrassing situations and also a 
drain

on my wallet due to large long distance call charges.
2. When I get phone numbers in a text message, I should be able to call 
or
message or store the number with a tap. No! I could do it with my 6 year 
old

Nokia better.

3. Entering data in a web form has become a nightmare. With my previous
phones running Talks I could do much better. I pay 10 times to get a 
iphone

and guess what? I can do less with it! Very frustrating.

This list could go on and on. . . . New models will launch, new IOS

versions will roll out. . . But the shortcomings and bugs will stick with
us. Technology for the sake of technology. But no technology for the
visually challenged. Wish someone would charge more but make a phone that
works. With IOS7 AND IPHONE all one can do is pull ones hair out, welcome 
to

a bald world populated with buggy iphones!


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Re: When will Apple take this seriously?

2013-11-10 Thread Troy Sullivan
I agree Sieghard, hanging up a call with 2 finger doubletap works a lot 
better. Perhaps he needs to do a full restore as suggested many times on 
here if you come across a really buggy phone. I'm running ios7.03 and I 
noticed the bugs are pretty gone at this point, even the one I wrote apple 
about with the speaker phone issue. Like I mentioned earlier on this thread 
he should just cell or anyone unhappy with apple sell their devices and move 
on, simple as that.




- Original Message - 
From: DJ grou...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 7:19 PM
Subject: RE: When will Apple take this seriously?


Remember that there is yet another way to end a call.  Simply hold the 
phone
to your ear and press on the button on the top of the phone (the one you 
all

use to lock the phone).  That one works every time!  Sheesh.

Thanks Sieghard for writing all of the things I would have written if you
had not written them.  lol

DJ


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2013 4:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: When will Apple take this seriously?

Hello,

Here is my summary of this entire thread:

The original poster complained about 3 items and pointed out a fourth:

1. Hanging up phone calls is unreliable
2. He can't tap on a phone number in a text message or email to dial it or
save it to contacts
3. Filling out web forms is buggy.
4. Things worked better on his old Nokia with Talks.

Then Pablo jumped in with his well-known rant about how horrible Apple is 
in

general because they make such expensive and terrible devices which don't
work, where people are forced to upgrade to iOS 7 and where generally
accessibility is terrible and where Pablo's rights are violated in a
number of ways.

As for Pablo's arguments, I have actually agreed with him in a very 
general
way that Apple should give people the option to say if they wanted a new 
iOS

to download automatically or not. At first I didn't see his point, but he
argued this point well and I agree there should be such an option. 
However,

this is in my view the only issue. Apple is not forcing anybody to upgrade
to iOS 7. Yes, they are pushing the update and it takes up space on your
phone, but you do not have to install it and I'll challenge anybody who 
says
that iOS 7 magically installed on their phone without them doing anything 
or
twice agreeing to the terms and conditions which simply does not happen. 
If

Apple were to allow down the road that one could turn off the automatic
downloading then nobody including Pablo could complain in any way because 
at

that point if they upgrade it is entirely their choice. It's already their
choice, but let's say somebody has an 8 Gb phone and they really need to
free up that space so they install it, that is just a little big of 
pressure

there even though you still decide to put up with iOS 7 in return for
getting back 2 Gb of space on your phone.

Now, as to the 4 items above:

1. Hanging up calls is unreliable
I actually find the 2-finger double tap works better in iOS 7 but that is
just my opinion. I think it's pretty safe to say though that it works at
least as well and I have up to this point and it's now 2 months since iOS 
7
was released, not seen a single post where somebody asked about or 
mentioned

a problem with the 2-finger double tap to hang up.
There is of course the other way to hang up a call which works 100% and 
that

is to touch the End Cal lbutton which is really not hard to find as it's
right there about the ome Key and to double tap it.
As somebody else pointed out, it's not hard to check whether a call was 
hung

up or is still connected.

2. He can't tap on a phone number in a text message or email to dial it or
save it to contacts
This works flawlessly for me and judging by what others wrote also for 
them.

A simple double tap on a phone number asks me whether I want to call it, a
double tap and hold brings up the options to call, add to contacts etc. 
I'd
really like to see how this isn't working on Avnish's phone who I think 
was

the one who posted that all of this didn't work.

3. Filling out web forms is buggy.
This one I understand is an issue, I can't comment too much on it since I
don't use Safari much to fill out web forms. I have done a few Google
searches andwas able to type in a search term just find, the same on the
Audible site. Anyhow, if it is buggy then I sure hope those who find this 
so

horrible have written to Apple about it. To me this is like voting. If I
talk to somebody about politics and they start a big rant about the
government I usually ask first if they voted in the last election. More 
than

once somebody said that they don't vote in which case I usually tell them
that they might as well shut up then because if they don't participate in
electing the government then they have no right to 

Re: FaceBook App Update Not Updating

2013-11-10 Thread Troy Sullivan
I updated it yesterday and works fine, so either I was lucky or the problem 
is fixed.
- Original Message - 
From: Mich mi...@eastlink.ca

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 10:50 PM
Subject: Re: FaceBook App Update Not Updating


Hi I was getting that message so this was good info to have. many thanks 
for posting it. I tryed to update my version of the app and couldn't 
download it I got the message that the facebook app couldn't be downloaded 
at this time. from Mich.
- Original Message - 
From: M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 4:10 AM
Subject: FaceBook App Update Not Updating



Hello Everyone,

I'm not certain if this has been posted but just in case it has not, as 
of
the date and time of this post, the most recent version of the Facebook 
app,

version 6.7.1 will not download from the app store.  Apparently, Facebook
submitted a corrupted cover art image with the app and the Apple servers 
are

not happy about it.

So, should you, like apparently thousands of people around the world,
attempt to update your current version of the Facebook app and get an 
update

error message, just close the Dialog box containing the error message and
then cancel the download.  This will allow you to continue to use your
currently installed version of the app.

Mark,

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Re: The Square root of IOS7

2013-11-09 Thread Troy Sullivan
I have never seen this issue nor read about it. Sounds like an issue with 
your phone.
- Original Message - 
From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 12:41 PM
Subject: RE: The Square root of IOS7



Hi Brian,

I have read most of the hundreds and hundreds of messages people sent in
after upgrading and don't recall coming across anything like this.

Do you get this in the setup screen after doing a restore or is that
happening even after you have gone through the initial setup process on 
the

phone and are on the home screen?

Have you done a simple reboot of your phone, i.e. power it off and back 
on?


You said you went to an Apple Store, what did the genious say about this?

To me this almost sounds like you may have selected a non-english language
or your region maybe set wrong.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of BrianMiller
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 7:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: The Square root of IOS7

All,

I continue to have serious problems with my iPhone 5 since I upgraded mine
and my wife's phones to IOS7... The screen appears to be littered with 
long

strings of symbols, starting with square root repeated about a hundred
times, then a long series of other nonsensical symbols.

This happens when I flick around the screen, or go to the top of bottom of
the screen... I get this square root thing... If I flick back and forth a
bit, it then reads me the line I'm looking for, but only with some effort.
This is very intrusive and renders the phone almost useless.

I've been to the Apple Store twice now, and fully restored my phone and 
set

it up as a new phone... And still I have this issue.

I will go back again to the Apple Store for the third time, but I wanted 
to

see if anyone else out there has experienced this... Is this just the new
landscape of IOS?  Do I have to put up with all this garbage in order to
interact with my screen?  Or is there just something wrong with my 
specific

phone...

Any feedback on this issue would be very much appreciated as this 
situation

is extremely frustrating.  It reminds me of how fragile our spiffy
technology is, and how dependent we are on it when we lose it.

Thank you so much.

Brian Miller
Alexandria, VA


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Re: Phone calls are being routed to the speakerphone when my bluetooth headset is connected.

2013-11-09 Thread Troy Sullivan

Since updating to 7.03 on my 4s this bug has gone away for me.
- Original Message - 
From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 6:07 AM
Subject: RE: Phone calls are being routed to the speakerphone when my 
bluetooth headset is connected.




Hi Ari,

I had the same problem with my 4S and it got worse with iOS 7. Not much 
you

can do about it except use a headset whenever possible.

Just for the record, I also find the automatic switching to speakerphone
annoying even though with my new 5S the problem has basically gone away
completely and the automatic switching is very reliable.

However, I still don't understand why Apple thinks a blind user can't just
double tap the speakerphone utton if they want the call on speakerphone 
just

as any sighted person has to do.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Gmail
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2013 2:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Phone calls are being routed to the speakerphone when my
bluetooth headset is connected.

H I just checked, and the route incoming calls option is set to default.
I've always had issues with my 4S and the proximity sensor. It's way too
sensitive when it doesn't need to be, and not sensitive enough when it 
needs

to be. Basically, I've always had issues with it going on speakerphone and
remaining on that setting, even when I cover the proximity sensor with my
hand. It's really really frustrating. Anyway, i've never really had an 
issue
with calls not being  routed to the headset until now. The  heads that 
will

be working fine, and then, when a call comes in, all of a sudden, it gets
routed to the speakerphone. Or sometimes to the phone's speaker, which 
makes

things even more difficult, because usually the phone won't go on speaker
phone no matter how far away I hold it from my head. I really don't like 
the

proximity sensor, to be honest.

Thanks for the help, though. I don't have AppleCare, so I can't replace 
the

phone.


Thanks,
Ari


On Nov 9, 2013, at 2:19 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

Hi David,

Definitely important for Ari to check this. However, if Ari has an
iPhone 4S running iOS 7 then this could well be a proximity sensor issue.

My 4S had some issue with this in iOS 6, but not to bad. Once I
upgraded it was pretty bad, in fact, I sometimes received calls and
they went to speakerphone and nothing I did short of plugging in a
headset would switch the call to the earpiece including holding my
phone to my ear, taking it away and putting it back or covering the

proximity sensor with my hand.


My setting was definitely on Default and it got so bad that Apple
ended up replacing my phone in the last week of my Apple Care and when
I had already ordered my 5S, in fact, my new unlocked 5S and the
replacement 4S were delivered at the same time.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of David Chittenden
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 5:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Phone calls are being routed to the speakerphone when my
bluetooth headset is connected.

Go to settings, general, accessibility, route incoming calls. It is
the second to the last option under accessibility. When you activate
the button, the choices will be default, headset, and speaker. It
sounds like your phone is currently set on speaker. Default means
headset if a headset is plugged in, earpiece speaker if the proximity
sensor detects an object, or speaker if the proximity sensor does not

detect any object.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 9 Nov 2013, at 14:02, Gmail englishride...@gmail.com wrote:

This is driving me absolutely nuts! It happens most when I receive
calls,

but it's happened sometimes when placing calls. How can I get this to

stop?



Thanks,
Ari

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Re: Barcode Scanners

2013-11-09 Thread Troy Sullivan
I have never been able to scan a barcode using my phone, but my scanner will 
find it just fine. Could be my phone's case though.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: Barcode Scanners



How is it easier to find the bar code using a dedicated scanner?

On 11/8/13, Steve pipeguy...@gmail.com wrote:

Dedicated is much better in the sense that it isn't quite as hard to find
the barcode, and it is a bit more responsive.

But, having a phone-based scanner is convenient.
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From: John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 2:05 PM
Subject: Barcode Scanners



I realize that my question is somewhat subjective. However, do people
have better success with a dedicated or IPhone based bar code scanner.
In either case which works well?

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Re: The best object recognition app out there I know

2013-11-08 Thread Troy Sullivan
About viz wiz, I sent a picture of myself to them just to test it out and asked 
them what the image was. I got a response from a web worker saying image of the 
terrist, no joke, made me wonder if they were just giving me a smart elic 
answer just to blow me off, I am a human beeing, not a terrist.
  - Original Message - 
  From: David Chittenden 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 7:23 PM
  Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know


  Well, that depends on what you require, and how you prefer to pay your costs.


  VizWiz will do the same as TapTapSee, and it even has the means for you to 
ask a question along with your picture. In fact, a question is required. It is 
a free app. It accesses a couple of the internet image databases to see if it 
can get a good match. It also sends the query to a volunteer for 
identification. And, you can choose which of the above you want it to do. 
However, because it accesses the image databases at free access, its queries do 
not have priority when access is in strong demand. Also, the volunteers are 
just that, people who are doing other things on their computers and have a 
window that pops up with your image and your question. If no volunteers are 
available, or if there are too many images waiting for identification, your 
query will take a considerable amount of time. I have gotten responses back 
immediately, and I have gotten responses back in a few minutes, and I have not 
gotten responses back at all. When I used it and TapTapSee, I usually try 
VizWiz first because I can ask the question.


  For money recognition, I always use LookTel Money Identifier. It is fast, 
accurate, and no data is sent.


  For product recognition of products I already have acquired good images for, 
I use LookTel Recognizer. I occasionally have sighted friends take pictures for 
my database.


  In all honesty, save when I used TapTapSee to compare it with VizWiz when it 
initially was released, I don't use the app. I had two reasons for my decision. 
First, because I knew people were playing with the app, and I knew the company 
was paying for every image, I did not want to increase the burden on the 
company when I could get alternative solutions to work. Second, I have always 
preferred asking the question because, the information I need is not 
necessarily the information a sighted identifier thinks I need.


  With barcode objects, I occasionally use DigitEyes.


  When out somewhere, I occasionally use CamFind because I know this product is 
general market, has ads to help fund it, and gives me product and price 
information.


  When I have good WiFi, I will occasionally use Talking Goggles. However, the 
company already went out once because Google changed the access for the video 
stream recognition matching, and as far as I know, this may happen again at any 
time. So, I do not want to become reliant on this product.
  On 9 Nov 2013, at 12:43, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:


so tab tab see still is the better then.

  - Original Message - 
  From: David Chittenden 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 5:44 PM
  Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know


  What's the expression? You get what you pay for. Talking Goggles is 
written for a much larger market of sighted people, so they can make money from 
ads that are targeted to their market. Also, you must use the video stream, so 
you need a good wifi connection. I have never gotten individual pictures to 
work with this app. Finally, as you found, the developer has not put much 
effort into accessibility.


  All that said, when the video stream is good and the wifi is strong, I 
have received nice success with this app. Because video data is data intensive, 
I usually will not use this app over 3g or 4g as it will more quickly use up my 
mobile data allotment for the month.

  David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA 
  Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
  Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
  Sent from my iPhone

  On 9 Nov 2013, at 10:15, Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com wrote:


well, but at the first view, it is not very frendly for blind people. 
The buttons, and icons are labled very weird, and some buttons has not label, 
and I don't know how understand this app.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Anthony Vece 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 9:57 AM
  Subject: Re: The best object recognition app out there I know


  Hi Anne and List;


  I just installed Talking Goggles.


  If you work hard enough at perfecting something it should work.


  So, that's exactly what I'm going !d.


  Anthony


  Sent from my Verizon iPhone 5s!

  On Nov 8, 2013, at 7:23 AM, Anne Robertson annefromo...@gmail.com 
wrote:


   

Re: TapTapSee

2013-11-07 Thread Troy Sullivan
I will pay for this app, I love it! I haven't been prompted to pay yet but  
when I do I will.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan Paganelli 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 7:42 PM
  Subject: Re: TapTapSee


  I would still like to see a free version even if it is 5 free pictures a 
month.  I would suspect that much of the picture taking was just for fun.  I 
know when I first installed the app, I couldn't believe it.  My sighted son and 
I spent that night taking pictures of everything in sight just to see if we 
could find something it had no clue what that is.  As I recall, that particular 
night we failed horribly.  Sense that time my picture taking has been based on 
need to know rather then a play thing.  I think of myself as an average blind 
person and guess this was pretty much the case with everybody.  All that's fine 
and dandy though however I still maintain that there should be a free version 
of the app.
  ---

  Regards,

  Alan

  Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

  Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!  
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

  Please click on: 
  http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
  There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
  the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 
From: Phil Vlasak 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: TapTapSee


Hi TTS,
I suggest a count down counter that tells you how many photos left.
Also a days left counter for the monthly version.
 Phil

  - Original Message - 
  From: TapTapSee 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 5:34 PM
  Subject: Re: TapTapSee


  Don, 
  We are in the process of adding some kind of a counter under the about 
section. We'll release a new update with the counter in it in the next 3-7 days.


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Re: TapTapSee

2013-11-07 Thread Troy Sullivan
I see nothing wrong with charging, it's a great app, beats viz wiz by a long 
shot!
- Original Message - 
From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: TapTapSee


Comments like the one where somebody said they believe charging this will 
hurt the company more than it will help them, and it is not fair / right 
that they now start charging so I wish them luck, are the thoughts I am 
challenging.


The fact is, the company has been losing money on TapTapSee ever since they 
started it. We have been enjoying the company's charity for us until now 
when the bill has finally come due. I have always wondered how long the 
company would continue being able to fund us, and I wondered how badly we 
would take it when we learned that there is actually an ongoing cost for our 
support. I was not surprised at all, on either side. I do wish, however, 
that my suspicion of how people would react when finally asked to contribute 
toward the ongoing costs, had been incorrect.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 8 Nov 2013, at 7:22, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

I tend to agree, but most of the messages I saw on this topic weren't 
people refusing to pay or wanting a hand out but rather people who thought 
the on going charge was a bit much. Maybe it is or maybe it isn't, and 
information like the below can help explain the charges they came up with, 
but this isn't the same as claiming people are refusing to pay or are 
acting like they're being betrayed. In a world where so many apps are just 
a few dollars for a one time charge, I can certainly understand why 
people, blind and sighted alike, would pause over paying $10 a month. This 
isn't unlike the pause people had when paying for the Seeing Eye GPS app, 
which was also on a subscription basis, and cost more than your run of the 
mill app.



On 11/07/2013 12:11 PM, David Chittenden wrote:
The fact is, during their campaign on KickStarter last year to raise the 
funding for CamFind, they reported that TapTapSee was costing them $150 
USD per day to run. I am sure the cost for them is even higher than that 
amount now since TapTapSee has become even more popular. Unlike the other 
two apps you mention, TapTapSee sends the image to paid sighted staff if 
image matching does not come up with a 100% match.


I find it quite interesting how so many are so happy when others pay 
handsomely for helping us, but when we are asked to support the effort, 
we become quite upset; like we are being betrayed. Think about it.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 8 Nov 2013, at 6:34, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

Hello Listers and Tap Tap See people,

I understand that many are disappointed that something which used to be 
free
now costs money. Of course when Fleksy which I think started out at 
$14.99,

went free after first dropping to $4.99 just as many people complained
because they wanted Fleksy right away so they spent the money. Well, it
happens all the time, prices go up and just because Tap Tap See was free
that doesn't mean it has to remain so or should remain so. After all, 
the
people behind Tap Tap See do have to have to live as well. What if Tap 
Tap

See had started out costing $4.99 for 100 pictures and then went up to
$7.99, would people have complained as much?

I think the most important thing, however, is that everybody who has
something to say regarding the cost whether it's good or bad should also 
CC

cont...@taptapseeapp.com because the developer, Image Searcher, is who
really needs to hear this. If people want them to reconsider their model 
or

pricing they have to let them know and it's not reasonable to assume or
expect that they should monitor the list for all these messages.

Before I found the Tweet on their website confirming that they are 
switching

to a subscription or pay per use model, I wrote to them asking for
clarification since even right now as I am writing this message I don't 
have
an update nor have I seen any message asking me to pay. I'm sure it's 
only a

matter of time, but since there seemed to be conflicting information out
there at first with some getting the message and some not, I just went 
on

their website and send a support email.

As I stated before, I will most likely buy the 100 images for $7.99 
since

occasionally I do find the app extremely useful, but I will probably use
Camfind (same developer) and Talking Goggles first and only fall back on 
Tap

Tap See if I can't get a good result. It's not as if there are no
alternatives, there are in fact, many and I suspect 100 pictures will 
last

me half a year in which case the price is not an issue.

I do, however, agree that $10 a month is a bit steep, in fact, I think a
good monthly subscription price would be 

Re: Updates- update IOS before iTunes?

2013-10-28 Thread Troy Sullivan
When I first got my 4s, it wouldn't even let me do anything unless I updated 
ITunes first.
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: Updates- update IOS before iTunes?


If you update iTunes then IOS 7.0.3 will still work. Sometimes you have to 
update iTunes in order for it to work with newer versions of IOS. For 
example, I couldn't update to IOS 7 until I updated iTunes first.


On 10/28/2013 12:22 PM, Don and Cher Bosch wrote:
I'm definitely confused- My phone is IOS7.03 but I did not check for 
iTunes

updates before updating the IOS. The phone is syncing with the PC and
iTunes. Admittedly Digit Eyes and some of my iBooks are not installing. 
If I

go ahead and do that recent iTunes update, will IOS7.03 still work?
Cher


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of chris
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 12:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Updates- update IOS before iTunes?

You just won't be able to sync with that device until it has been 
updated,

plus iTunes will remind you of the update so you sure won't forget grin.
On 28 Oct 2013, at 16:32, Don and Cher Bosch 
oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net

wrote:


I know that for some reason you're supposed to update iTunes before
updating the IOS, but what happens if you forget? Do you just wait for 
the

next IOS update and update iTunes then, or what? Thanks.

Cher

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extra item in the statis bar but vo not saying what it is

2013-10-28 Thread Troy Sullivan
As I scroll through my statis bar, there's an item but vo is not saying what it 
is, as I swipe I get verizon, wy fy, orientation locked, etc. but there's this 
one item which vo just says statis bar. I'm not sure what this is. Anyone else 
notice this? This is ios7.03.

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Re: papa john's app

2013-10-27 Thread Troy Sullivan
I tried this a couple days ago, it is some what accessible but not enough to 
complete an order, buttons aren't labeled so you have to constantly go into the 
button to see what it is, go back, etc. A pain so I got rid of it. I was 
thinking it would be accessible since they have a page on their site 
spacifically for screen reader users which is a mobile version of their page.
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  Subject: Re: papa john's app


  I tried using it yesterday, and found that it was not totally accessible. I 
came to a certain part when ordering that would not let me continue because 
VoiceOver would not read what I needed it to read.

  From: Hope Paulos 
  Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 10:05 PM
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  Subject: papa john's app

  Hi all. For those that order from papa john’s, can you tell me if the app is 
accessible with VO?

  Thanks!

   

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Re: A tempature question

2013-10-27 Thread Troy Sullivan
I'm not sure if this is a bug with 7.03 but sometimes since updating when I 
ask siri the temp she will say the temperature doesn't matter because it's 
room temperature all the time. What the heck?
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Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2013 2:32 AM
Subject: A tempature question


Hi all,
I was over at some friends house a little while ago, and we wanted to check 
the temperature, so I looked at my iPhone 4S running 7.03, and went to the 
notification center, and it said it was 41 degrees. Then I asked Siri what 
was the current temp, and she said 52. Then I asked, what was the current 
temp right now, and she said 43.
So, how do I know who's right, and where did I get those 3 different 
answers?

Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: Apps people use

2013-10-25 Thread Troy Sullivan
I have both walgreens and krogers, both appear to be accessible, I haven't 
played with the kroger one much but the walgreens ap is one of those that go 
into the catagory there are some accessible issues but doable if you are 
willing to work around them and that's what I have done.
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Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 11:13 AM
Subject: Apps people use



I am glad some one mentioned the Walgreens app.
I just got it and I think it will be very useful.
I just never thought of it before.
I may see if there is a Krogers app?
Patti

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Re: What app's do you use the most on a daily basis?

2013-10-25 Thread Troy Sullivan

what is checkie?
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Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: What app's do you use the most on a daily basis?



Some more that I haven't seen mentioned yet:
Yocto Clock, for the daily wake up alarm and weather forecast
Pro Football Radio and Live Scores, for my weekly NFL fix and score 
updates

Checkie
Booking.com, for the occasional hotel reservation
Wall Greens, to refill medications
iTreadMill

Regards,
Wayne

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Shop shop, alarmed, the native calendar, IYot (not sure of the spelling),
kings corner, 10 itemsMBraille,  and of course the native apps like email
notes and phone.
God bless!
Paula and Babe

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Subject: Re: What app's do you use the most on a daily basis?

Here are some of the ones I use regularly: Audible, the BARD Mobile app,
TuneIn Radio, Muxica, iAssociate 2, TweetList, Daily Devo and others.

Regards,
Wayne

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What app's do you guys use on a daily basis?
As for me, Taptapsee, Google maps, money identifier looktell, Pandora,
tabatalk. Curious on what others are using since we may discover new
app's b sharing this info.

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Re: Garageband 2.0 on IOS 7.0.3 bug.

2013-10-25 Thread Troy Sullivan
I have a 4s and I'm trying it out to see what it's all about and it was free 
for me as well.
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Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 8:20 AM
Subject: Re: Garageband 2.0 on IOS 7.0.3 bug.



I have a 4S and got Garage Band free.I had my 4S for almost two years.
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Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: Garageband 2.0 on IOS 7.0.3 bug.


If you have a 5s, that's considered a new device so iWork and iLife 
suites are both free. Garage Band is part of the iLife suite.




Best Regards,

Rick alfaro

On 10/23/2013 9:52 PM, Kliphton --- wrote:

That sucks, I have a iPhone5s, and I don't get it?

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Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 7:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Garageband 2.0 on IOS 7.0.3 bug.

Ah, I see. Garage Band is part of iLife. According to this article, 
iLife
apps are only free on new devices, so I suspect Grant is right, although 
the

other article I posted said it was free for all IOS 7 users. I guess you
can't believe everything you read on the web. Here's that second article
http://blog.laptopmag.com/ilife-iphoto-imovie-garageband-updates

On 10/23/2013 06:39 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

True, but I assume the question was about Garage Band. I've read that
Garage Band is free to any IOS 7.0.3. users, e.g.
http://www.hypebot.com/hypebot/2013/10/confirmed-redesigned-garageband
-free-for-all-apple-ios-7-devices.html


On 10/23/2013 06:29 PM, Grant Hardy wrote:

ILife and iWork apps are free for people who purchase IOS devices
this fall. When you set up your new IOS device you are given an
opportunity to download the entire suite of apps. They are not,
however, free for customers who upgrade to IOS 7 but keep their 
existing

devices.


Grant


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Isn't this app suppose to be fgree for new IOs7 users?  If so how do
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Behalf Of Gabriele Battaglia
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 12:05 PM
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Subject: Garageband 2.0 on IOS 7.0.3 bug.

Hi all.
On my Garageband just updated, on iPhone 5, is no longer possible to
change the combo boxes, like that for the octave on a keyboard.
Any one has noticed the same problem? I think we have to immediately
report it to Apple.
Gabriel.

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Re: why does Siri sound a lot better on my iPad mini?

2013-10-24 Thread Troy Sullivan
I would guess it's the speaker.
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  Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 6:12 PM
  Subject: why does Siri sound a lot better on my iPad mini?


  Hi all,


  I have an iPad mini and an iPhone. Siri sounds a lot better on my iPad mini. 
I was wondering why. Is it the speaker or some kind of setting?


  Thanks,
  Christina



  Sent from Christina's iMac :)



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Re: iOs 7.0.3 fixes are great

2013-10-24 Thread Troy Sullivan

so far my 4s since updating to 7.03 has not answered the call on speaker!
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Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 8:34 AM
Subject: Re: iOs 7.0.3 fixes are great


Hi, I changed the subject line to better reflect my message and to again, 
correct the wrong version number which many people are using. Folks, it's 
7.0.3, not 7.3, not 7.03, and not anything else. smile. Anyway, one of 
the things I must agree with for sure is the hypersensitivity of the 
gestures. That was one of my major annoyances with iOS 7 in general. yes, 
this has the bug of saying the locked message more than once, but who 
cares, at least I can now move around the keyboard or other parts of the 
screen without an extra gesture being interpreted. This will help my 
several clients who have a hard time with some of the basic gestures as it 
is.



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On 10/22/2013 7:40 PM, Jesus Garcia wrote:

I agree it certainly is gone for me to. I have tried not only on the home
screen but in several apps and things seem to be back to how they were
before in terms of screen sensitivity.


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Re: fixed my first navigon issue now another issue

2013-10-24 Thread Troy Sullivan
Yes, Bret and I are having the same issue. I will try the suggestion mentioned.
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  Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 2:33 AM
  Subject: Re: fixed my first navigon issue now another issue


  I'm experiencing the same frustrating behavior. I'm not sure if it's 
refreshing or not, but when attempting to swipe through the states, to download 
individual maps, the sound of a page loading is heard, and it's near impossible 
to get to the desired state without pure luck. I've haven't experienced this in 
the past. I don't when it may have started because I haven't needed to download 
maps in a while.


  Brett C.


  Sent from my iPad

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Hello and Troy:


I am glad to hear that your processing well with Navigon.


As to your question pertaining to refreshing, if you have not received an 
answer already could you please provide a little detail of your concern? I am 
not experiencing any refreshing … that does not mean that it is not going on … 
just cannot as of yet reproduce your challenge.


Take good care and I wish you enough.


Patrick 

On Oct 23, 2013, at 3:01 PM, Troy Sullivan troysulliva...@gmail.com wrote:


  Thanks for the help with navigan, I was able to update everything 
successfully.
  Now I'm not sure if this is the way it's suppose to be or not, but has 
anyone noticed that the map manager refreshes all the time? Is there a way to 
fix this?


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Re: no sound when closing a folder

2013-10-23 Thread Troy Sullivan
This seems to be a bug in ios7.3, a lot of people on applevis are talking about 
it.
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  Subject: no sound when closing a folder


  Yesterday I posted mails to two lists, in different languages.
  You can make interesting mistakes then, when both languages have the same 
word, with a different meaning.

  I wanted to say that there is no sound anymore, when I close a folder on my 
4S, with iOs 7.03.

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emergency button?

2013-10-23 Thread Troy Sullivan
Hi,
a while back I read some posts where people had an emergency button (ice) on 
their lock screen, why don't I have this button? How do I add an ice contact?

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Re: weird issue with ITunes radio

2013-10-23 Thread Troy Sullivan

It will say it's playing but nothing is heard.
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From: Kimber Gardner kimbersinbox1...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: weird issue with ITunes radio



When you say you can't play the station, what happens when you try?

I have seen iTunes radio stop after playing for a while. In my case, I
saw a prompt that said something like still listening to iTunes
radio? The two options presented were okay and stop. When I tapped
okay the music continued to play. I have never seen that prompt since.

Kimber

On 10/22/13, Troy Sullivan troysulliva...@gmail.com wrote:

Here's what is going on
I created a station in ITunes radio, it only let me play that station for 
a

few hours before it stopped, however now that station I created I can not
play anymore even when I tried it on a totally different day, is this a 
bug

and does anyone know how to get around this? It's like there's a limit on
how long you can play a station but isn't ITunes radio free?

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Re: Pages updating [was Re: Voice over problem not solved]

2013-10-23 Thread Troy Sullivan

I have only seen this once or twice, not a big deal to me.
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Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 11:51 PM
Subject: Pages updating [was Re: Voice over problem not solved]


I've seen this occasionally as well. I also saw it with IOS 6. I don't
see it most of the time, and I can usually get the page to refresh by
paging away and back again.

On 10/22/2013 10:36 PM, dr.abdull...@gmail.com wrote:



Hello I have problem since ios7 you move to next page and voice over 
reading the items in first page for example you move to page 2 then you 
will find voice over reading the first page items like AppStore Game 
Center this problem more cominiphone 4s Sent from my iPhone




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Re: Clever Clues is it accessible?

2013-10-23 Thread Troy Sullivan
That's a good question, I have not seen a way to bypass clues I don't know 
so I just put it down and come back to it at a later time.
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Subject: Re: Clever Clues is it accessible?



What happens if you can't figure out a word?

On 10/22/13, Teresa Cochran vegaspipistre...@gmail.com wrote:
Oh yes. It's one of my favorite games. You start off with three-letter 
words
and have about sixty clues. Then you can proceed all the way to 
ten-letter

words, especially with the extra packs you can buy. I'm on seven-letter
words right now.

Teresa

Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's 
too

dark to read.--Groucho Marx

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Clever Clues is accessible with VoiceOver. You start out with a couple 
of

free sets of clues, but have the option to buy more. The clue packs are
very inexpensive and worth the money.

From: Jen Colley
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 7:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Clever Clues is it accessible?

Hi,
I am wondering if clever clues is accessible with voice over?  Also is 
it

free or paid?
Jen
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fixed my first navigon issue now another issue

2013-10-23 Thread Troy Sullivan
Thanks for the help with navigan, I was able to update everything successfully.
Now I'm not sure if this is the way it's suppose to be or not, but has anyone 
noticed that the map manager refreshes all the time? Is there a way to fix this?

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Re: tap tap see picture information

2013-10-22 Thread Troy Sullivan
One future thing I'd like to see with tap tap see is  like vizwiz ask a 
question about what you are looking for in the picture, this way if a crowd 
source sees it they will know. Vizwiz is just too slow waiting on someone to 
respond.
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Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 2:31 PM
Subject: RE: tap tap see picture information



Because part of what you are getting is crowd sourced and answered by
different people who submit the description, you would likely get a
different answer if you used the same phone and asked the same question
twice.

Neal

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Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 12:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: tap tap see picture information

Hi again. I have yet another question that maybe someone has an answer 
too.


It's rather weird. I finally got tap tap see the other day and my bf and I
discovered something weird.

Is there any reason that anyone could think of of why why my IPhone which 
is

a 4S will not give me the same information regarding a picture as my bf's
IPhone which is a 4? We took a pic of my college shirt that I know has
writing on it. My phone would only tell me that it is a green printed 
shirt

and my bf's phone will tell me what the writing is.

May and Prince Noah
www.canadianlynx.ca

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Re: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates

2013-10-22 Thread Troy Sullivan
If I remember correctly, the old IPod touch you did have to set up 
accessibility with ITunes. Call me lazy but I like that apple devices 
already come with accessibility, but I see your point, sighted people might 
not like it.
- Original Message - 
From: Kevin Minor kmi...@windstream.net

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Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 10:42 AM
Subject: RE: Tim Cook Being Sued over Automatic iOS 7 Updates


I personally don't have a problem with what Apple is doing, but I'm going 
to

play devil's advocate.  I think Apple shouldn't include accessibility as a
standard feature with their iOs, because it takes up space that I could 
use
for other items.  If you want accessibility, you could hook up your 
iDevice
to your computer and use iTunes to get it that way.  I think it's wrong 
for

Apple forcing us to get accessibility as a standard feature with our
iDevices.

As I said, I don't agree with the above logic, but I could see a sighted
individual thinking this way.  Oh, and while we're at it, Siri could also 
be

seen as a feature that Apple shouldn't include because not everybody will
want it or use it.

I'm not sending this out to change minds, it's just a different way to 
look

at things.  I hope Apple always keeps accessibility as part of the iOs.

Have a great day, and don't work too hard.

GO CATS and GO BENGALS!
Kevin Minor, Lexington, KY
kmi...@windstream.net

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problem deleteing songs revisited

2013-10-22 Thread Troy Sullivan
Hello,
Some how 4 songs from the cloud had gotten on my phone and I'm trying to delete 
them, I tried the suggestions on here, swipe down with one finger after finding 
the song I want to delete, all this does is speak characters, words, or 
whatever the rotor is set to, I tried the show all music thing, there's no 
selection on the rotor for actions in the music app. I want to use my IPhone 
strickly for apps and don't want this music on here, any ideas on what I can 
try next?

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navagon not letting me update maps

2013-10-22 Thread Troy Sullivan
Navigon is telling me map updates are available, however when ever I go to the 
map manager and click start download, voiceover does nothing, not click or 
anything, it's like silent and gives no feedback when double tapping, is this a 
bug?

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question about verizon's backup assist app

2013-10-22 Thread Troy Sullivan
Hi all,
Does anyone know if verizon's backup assist app store the contacts in the cloud 
or does it store them in a different place altogether?

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Re: Problem when answering call: speaker activated

2013-10-22 Thread Troy Sullivan
Before I say hello I take my phone away from my ear and put it back to my 
ear. Annoying, but it will work for now.
- Original Message - 
From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 2:42 PM
Subject: RE: Problem when answering call: speaker activated



Hi Fanus,

No real solution except using a headset. Before I had my 5S I usually 
picked
up the call with a 2-finger double tap and it usually went to 
speakerphone.
I would say Hello and just a sec, then I'd wait a couple of seconds and 
put

my phone to the ear and it would usually be OK.

The good thing is that if you sell the phone to a non Voiceover user this
problem does not exist because there is no automatic switching. On my 5S
this problem is completely gone.

I was still on Apple Care and since on my 4S it seemed to get worse and on 
a
few calls it wouldn't switch to the earpiece at all even if I repeatedly 
put

my hand over the earpiece or moved my phone to my ear and away I called
Apple, explained the problem and they sent me a new 4S. Since it's an
unlocked 64 Gb I at least now can probably get $80 or $100 more than I 
would
have gotten for my 2 year old 4S, typical great service and I think Apple 
is

even  more inclined to do this for people who buy at full price directly
from them and have Apple Care because I doubt they make quite as much 
money
if they sell phones to big carriers who probably get a discount. Of course 
I

don't know if my new 4S has the same problem since I am not even going to
touch it, it goes into the original case I still have along with the
original, still wrapped headset and a bunch of extra accessories and I 
won't
even set it up. I can truly say I am selling a new unlocked 4S 64 Gb 
except

that it won't have warranty.


Take care,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Fanus
Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2013 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Problem when answering call: speaker activated

Hello List
Has anyone found a solution on the 4S for the problem that the speaker 
comes
on when one answers a call and the caller then thinks that the call was 
cut.

This is very frustrating.
I did a reset with the home and sleep buttons and I even dit a reset with
the option in settings but the problem is not solved. I would like to sell
my 4S to get the 5S but I'll have to tell potential buyers of this problem
and no one would probably purchase it if such a problem exists.
Regards
Fanus


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Re: Question about iCloud password

2013-10-22 Thread Troy Sullivan
I'm not sure about second question, but yes your cloud password should be the 
same as your apple ID. I can log on to ICloud.com and use my apple id and 
password.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Neal Ewers 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 4:48 PM
  Subject: Question about iCloud password


  Hi all. I was under the impression that one's iCloud password was the same as 
the Apple ID. But, when I update to a new OS, at the end of the update, I get 
asked to go to iCloud to finish the setup. I enter this password and am told 
that it is incorrect. I know I can back up to iCloud, because I just did it, 
but how do I know it's really backing up if I am not sure I'm entering the 
right password.

   

  Further question.

  Is there a way to look at what is stored on the iCloud from either the device 
or from iTunes?

   

  Thanks much.

   

  Neal


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Re: iOs 7.03 is out

2013-10-22 Thread Troy Sullivan
Yep, I've noticed my 4s is not as jumpy as it was, another thing and I've 
only had 1 incoming call so need more time to make a judgement on this, I 
answered the call, held the phone to my ear and it wasn't on speaker! Again, 
I've only had one call so far since the update so I can't confirm if this 
issue is truly fixed.
- Original Message - 
From: Jesus Garcia jesusga...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 8:40 PM
Subject: RE: iOs 7.03 is out



I agree it certainly is gone for me to. I have tried not only on the home
screen but in several apps and things seem to be back to how they were
before in terms of screen sensitivity.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Rick Alfaro
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 20:10
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOs 7.03 is out

From what I've seen in a short time, the hypersensitivity of the screen
seems to be gone.  That was my major beef in terms of accessibility.



Best Regards,

Rick alfaro

On 10/22/2013 5:10 PM, Donna wrote:

Can those of you who are installing the update please post to the list

your opinions of whether the update has solved a lot of the accessibility
bugs?


I have a medically complex son and my cell phone is our life line to his

many specialists. For this reason I haven't upgraded to IOS 7. I'm
interested in upgrading BUT not until the accessibility bugs have been
worked out.


Looking forward to some of the new features of IOS 7.

Donna


It is downloadable with your phone as well through the usual way. I have

now downloaded it onto two devices this way.


Bob Fenton

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 22, 2013, at 2:22 PM, Neal Ewers neal.ew...@ravenswood.org

wrote:


I found it in iTunes.

Neal


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Behalf

Of Chris H
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 3:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOs 7.03 is out

My phone found it and am updating now.

E-mail Facebook and iMessage
christopher...@gmail.com


On 22/10/2013 20:40, Trea Abma wrote:
My phone can't find it yet, but there is an update. Voiceover is

mentioned

too, something is done about the sensivity of the screen.

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Re: VoiceOver reporting Phone Is Locked twice

2013-10-22 Thread Troy Sullivan

Since upgrading to 7.03 I've noticed it will say screen locked twice.
- Original Message - 
From: Alex Hall mehg...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: VoiceOver reporting Phone Is Locked twice


Well, I've noticed it before, but here's the odd thing. To my knowledge, 
it only happens when I'm using headphones. Unless I'm missing it, I never 
hear the double message if no headphones are plugged in, and even then it 
only happens sometimes.
On Oct 22, 2013, at 8:34 PM, AnonyMouse anonymo...@themickeyhouse.com 
wrote:



Hello Everyone,

Actually, this has been there since the iOS 7 Beta phase. A number of 
people
have reported ever since the release of the iOS 7.0. This is unfortunate 
for

those that haven't had this issue until now. Yes, I agree it is quite
annoying.

Be sure to report this to the Apple Accessibility Team so this can be 
fixed.
I have already reported it but the more people report this the more 
likely

it will not be push to the bottom of the stack to fix.

Regards,
AnonyMouse


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

of Rick Alfaro
Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2013 6:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VoiceOver reporting Phone Is locked twice

Hi, I'm also seeing this on my iPhone 5s with 7.03.  I don't recall 
hearing

this at all before this version.



Best Regards,

Rick alfaro

On 10/22/2013 7:28 PM, Robin Frost wrote:

Hi Everyone,
Perhaps I'm late to this party but I've never noticed this behavior
Before iOS 7.0.3.  Now when I lock my iPhone 5s VoiceOver reports
That the device is locked just after the locking sound is heard but then
it feels the need to reiterate it to me some 9 seconds later.  Has
anyone else seen this behavior now or in previous iOS versions and I've
just missed it?  Might anyone have a clue why Apple would feel the need
to have VoiceOver report it two times in this manner?  Thanks for any
light anyone could shed on this for me.
Robin

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Re: Restoring From THE Cloud

2013-10-19 Thread Troy Sullivan
I found this interesting, the other day I didn't arace my whole phone just 
tapped on reset settings which sets the phone back to factory settings 
without deleting the data, however even though vo was speaking I had to go 
into accessibility shortcuts and turn the tripple click home back on, I 
found that interesting and wondered why I had to do that?
- Original Message - 
From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com

To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: Restoring From THE Cloud


Hi,

There’s really no need to connect your device to iTunes.  But, the first 
thing you want to do is, make sure you have iCloud backups turned on.  So on 
your iPhone, since this is the information you want to restore your iPad 
from, go to settings/iCloud.  Now double tap on Storage  Backup.  Here, 
will have the option to turn iCloud backups on if it isn’t already, and you 
can do a backup manually right here on this page.  It also shows the date 
and time of your last iCloud backup if there is one.  After insuring you 
have an iCloud backup, go ahead an erase all data and settings from your 
iPad again.  It will take a little time to do its thing, and of course, 
Voiceover won’t be on when your iPad restarts.  Pressing the home button 3 
times will turn on Voiceover though.  Where you would find unlock, you might 
hear Voiceover speaking a bunch of different languages.  Double tap on this. 
Don’t worry, Your device will be in english.  Go through the setup process, 
and you should be asked if you want to restore your device or set up as new. 
Check to restore from your iCloud backup.


hth
Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Oct 18, 2013, at 8:07 PM, Regina Alvarado reggie.alvar...@gmail.com 
wrote:



I hate to be a pest, but I guess I must be to totally get it.

I went to general, reset and erase all content and data. Of course, VO was 
gone. Now I went to my iTunes and since I could not see turn on VO, I 
asked instead to set up iPad as a new iPad. I triple tapped home and VO 
started. I was now on the screen where it says hello in many languages. I 
tapped hello and after quite a while it asked to set up iPad. Going 
through this process was fine. Went then into settings and again to 
general and reset. When I tapped on that there was reset network, home 
page, dictionary and reset data and settings, I beleve which I tapped. It 
asked for my apple ID, and did something, but none of my settings or apps 
were downloaded. What did I do wrong? Am I asking for too much to have my 
iPad with the same settings and apps as iPhone?

Frustrated kind of in FL


reggie and Allegra

On Oct 18, 2013, at 7:38 PM, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Hi,

Thanks for clarifying this for me. That's what I thought. The reason that 
I posted this is that there is a recent post in using the cloud to restore 
a new iDevice, whatever it is using iCloud. Others need to be clear that 
the current version of an app will be placed on the new device and that 
some apps become broken when a new version is released. I just wanted 
others to know this before using the cloud.


Thanks.

Best,
Eileen
Hi Chris and All,

Okay. When I connect my iPhone to the computer iTunes opens and when I am 
in my device, I have a choice to back it up to the cloud or manually. Are 
you saying that if this phone wasn't setup from the get go that I couldn't 
back it up to the cloud through iTunes at a later point in time? I usually 
only back up manually to the computer. What advantages would I have to 
also back the phone up to the cloud?


Thanks.

Eileen

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 18, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Chris H christopher...@gmail.com wrote:

Go to settings general reset erase all content and settings when asked 
how to set up the device choose restore from backup.


E-mail Facebook and iMessage
christopher...@gmail.com


On 18/10/2013 21:17, Regina Alvarado wrote:
Nothing, no restore at all. I just cannot figure out what I am looking 
for. I did a backup on iPhone, but when I go into my iPad, iCloud, 
manage backup, no restore. Am I missing it or is it not restore but 
another word? Sorry, just plain stuck which is where I've been since I 
got the iPad. Thanks.



reggie and Allegra

On Oct 18, 2013, at 2:38 PM, Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Hi,

Thanks for clarifying this for me. That's what I thought. The reason 
that I posted this is that there is a recent post in using the cloud to 
restore a new iDevice, whatever it is using iCloud. Others need to be 
clear that the current version of an app will be placed on the new 
device and that some apps become broken when a new version is released. 
I just wanted others to know this before using the cloud.


Thanks.

Best,
Eileen


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 18, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com 
wrote:


I think you have this right.  If you restore 

Re: iPhone 5S improved battery life

2013-10-19 Thread Troy Sullivan
To me this wouldn't be a difference, I can get 2 sometimes 3 days out of a 
single charge on my 4s, but again I don't heavily use mine like some of you so 
I guess it really varies from person to person.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan Paganelli 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 11:22 AM
  Subject: Re: iPhone 5S improved battery life


  I can't ever recall getting 2 days out of my iPhone 4's battery.  That would 
be good if that were the case.  Thanks!
  ---

  Regards,

  Alan

  Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

  Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!  
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

  Please click on: 
  http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
  There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
  the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 
From: Robin Christopherson 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 7:25 AM
Subject: iPhone 5S improved battery life


Dear listers
I recently got a 5S and am getting 2 days out of each charge which is 
amazing compared to my 4S. Of course after two years the battery may have lost 
a lot of capacity but I just wanted to sound others out about their battery 
performance. I’m listening to a lot of audio on and off as well as light usage 
of other apps, email and the phone etc. Also lots of Siri.
Thanks, Robin.

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Re: Recommendations for a Blue Tooth Keybord with iPhone

2013-10-19 Thread Troy Sullivan
I also have the amazon basics, I like it. I use it when I'm lazy and don't feel 
like using the touch screen, lol.
I also have another keybord that is like a quarty, I bought it from a t guys. I 
don't use this one as much but it makes a good travel keybord.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Alan Paganelli 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 18, 2013 10:47 AM
  Subject: Re: Recommendations for a Blue Tooth Keybord with iPhone


  The keys on the Amazon Basics Bluetooth Keyboard are about what you would 
find on a good netbook.  If you are a touch typist, you'll love this keyboard.  
The keys aren't the wishie-washy kind of keys you find on some portable 
keyboards.  These feel proper and the 5 rubber feet on the bottom keeps the 
keyboard in place on a flat surface so if you do type fast, you won't have to 
worry about chasing it all over the table top.

  When I'm traveling in our motor home, I can sling this keyboard across my lap 
and type away.  Once I've typed my reply or started my message all I have to do 
is to send it and move on to the next message.
  ---

  Regards,

  Alan

  Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

  Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!  
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

  Please click on: 
  http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
  There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
  the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 
From: Terrie Terlau 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 7:25 PM
Subject: RE: Recommendations for a Blue Tooth Keybord with iPhone


Larry,

Thanks for your recommendation.

Can you tell me if the keys are small and close together, making it a lot 
smaller than a keyboard without the numpad and six pack, or if the keys are 
about average sized and the keyboard is not tiny?

I am not saying this very well -- I want it to be easy to use, so not 
really small,.

Thanks!

Terrie


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Re: Singing Praises of TapTap See

2013-10-19 Thread Troy Sullivan
I love it! I can't decide rather I want to get rid of vizwiz altogether and 
just keep tap tap see, or keep them both.
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  Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 9:47 PM
  Subject: Singing Praises of TapTap See


  I keep being amazed at the things it recognizes. It is an incredible app. 
Tonight it identified a carton of Kroger cottage cheese and also told me that 
it was in a green and white container.

  Best,

  Terrie Terlau


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Re: Series silences!

2013-10-17 Thread Troy Sullivan

I have also noticed this, even in IOS6 I did as well.
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From: Agent086b agent0...@bigpond.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2013 4:25 PM
Subject: Re: Series silences!


Hello Carol,
I have noticed this also from Time-to-time.
Max.


On 18/10/2013, at 2:46 AM, Carol Pearson carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
wrote:


When dictating, does anyone find that Siri is sometimes silent, although 
information has been written in the text field? I sometimes find this and 
consider it rather annoying because it means looking in the actual field 
and perhaps making a mess of the contents of the field to ensure that Siri 
has done his job? I should be interested in any comments on this.


Carol P
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can't connect to ITunes store via pc

2013-10-16 Thread Troy Sullivan
I'm trying to connect to the ITunes store on my computer and It seems to be 
timing out with unable to connect to the ITunes store, please check your 
network connection an unknown error has occured ok button. I don't have any 
firewalls besides the windows firewall, I disabled it with the same result. I 
rebooted my pc and ITunes still won't connect. I know it's not the store itself 
because I can get to it on my phone just fine but I need to access the store on 
my pc and unable to do so. Any ideas? I know it's not my network because I can 
get to other sites just fine.

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Re: Verizon iPhone 5/5s users

2013-10-16 Thread Troy Sullivan
Unfortunetly I have to wait until 2015 to upgrade, who knows they will 
probably have the 6 out by then. I did find while a bit annoying, but a 
resonable solution that I can deal with for the 4s speaker problem, I 
learned this from an apple vis user, as soon as you answer the phone before 
saying hello, put the phone up to your ear, then take it away, then put it 
to your ear again and say hello, you should be fine, this so far has worked 
100 percent of the time for me, of course unless I forget to do it.
- Original Message - 
From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 2:32 PM
Subject: RE: Verizon iPhone 5/5s users



Hi Tracy,

It probably is preinstalled. Just in case, if it is not, here is how it 
goes

in:

Take the little wire tool and feel along the right side of the phone
(opposite from the volume buttons).
You will feel the SIM tray and beneath it is a tiny hole. Put the wire 
tool

in it and push firmly, this will pop the SIM tray out.
Make sure you keep the touch screen facing you and that you don't turn the
SIM tray upside down, it is smooth on top and has a ridge underneath.
Your Nano SIM is tiny, but if you have good feeling in your fingers, you 
can

feel that one corner of the SIM card is cut off a bit.
The SIM Card goes into the tray with that corner facing out and up 
(towards

the top of the phone).
The SIM tray should slide in easily and the last little bit requires a
slight push to lock it into place, if you put the SIM in the wrong way I
don't think it will go in.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Traci Duncan
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 11:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Verizon iPhone 5/5s users

Hi all, thanks for the replies.

Lol, first of all, I'm soo glad to hear about the speaker issue 
not

existing in the 5s.  It is driving me nuts in my 4s.

Verizon may have sim cards now, because of the 4g/lte.  I saw it mentioned
in my shipping details.  Hopefully, it is pre-installed.

The instructions I found on the web say I need to call a number to 
activate

4g/lte on my account.

We'll see, I'm sure it'll all be easy once started.

Thanks again,
Traci
On Oct 16, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:


Hi Tracy,

My 5S finally showed up this morning after I found out yesterday that the
UPS delivery guy delivered it to the store here in my town where they 
sell

Apple product. Unfortunately I didn't realize this until shortly before 6

PM

when they were already closed so he couldn't get it back from them until
this morning. Oh well, a bit more anticipation built-up never hurt

anybody.


Anyhow, the setup process is about as simple and easy as it can get and
Apple's It just works definitely applies here.
I took the phone out of the box and even before I turned it on put my new
Nano SIM into the phone. Tracy, I am in Canada and while I know ATT and
T-Mobil use SIM cards, I don't think Verizon does as they are still a 
CDMA

carrier. I have to leave it somebody else to confirm his and to explain

how

your phone number is activated, but I assume it might not be that

different

as with a SIM where you have to do it by signing  in on the Verizon

website.


After I inserted my SIM I plugged in the Lightning cable since while a 
new

phone usually has a good amount of charge, I just wanted to make sure it

had

power and also because I know plugging in the cable turns the phone on.
After a little bit the phone vibrated and I knew it was at that point on.
Another advantage when Voiceover is not on yet is that if you plug the

phone

in it will vibrate once when it comes on.
I waited a maybe 10 more seconds to make sure it was ready, then I 
pressed

the home key 3 times and Voiceover came on.
I selected English from the list of languages, then my location/country

and

so on.
The setup process is very straight forward, you can join your WiFi right
there, you are asked to sign in with your Apple Id and then you can 
enable

iCloud, iMessage and Facetime, Find my iPhone, SIRI and all that.
The first time I was asked to enter text, I think it was for my WiFi, I
right away turned the rotor to typing mode and selected touch typing 
since

touch typing is not enabled by default.
It probably took me 6 or 8 minutes to go through the entire setup 
process.
You are also asked I think at the end if you want to set up as a new 
phone

or restore from a backup. I chose new phone here, but I am now going to
restore from my encrypted iTunes backup.

Once the setup process was done I had a notification right away that a

newer

version of iOS  was available. I went into Settings and installed the iOS
7.02 update.

While it was doing the iOS 7 update I signed into my mobile carrier's
website to activate my new Nano SIM which I had already received a few

days

ago.
I use Koodo here in Canada 

Re: Verizon iPhone 5/5s users

2013-10-16 Thread Troy Sullivan
Same here, I did not install anything, it could of been in there this whole 
time and I didn't even know it.
- Original Message - 
From: Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2013 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: Verizon iPhone 5/5s users


Tracy, I am a Verizon customer and I can assure you that I did not install 
any Sim cards into my phone. If it's there, I don't even know about it.


Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 16, 2013, at 2:27 PM, Traci Duncan our4p...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi all, thanks for the replies.

Lol, first of all, I'm soo glad to hear about the speaker issue 
not existing in the 5s.  It is driving me nuts in my 4s.


Verizon may have sim cards now, because of the 4g/lte.  I saw it 
mentioned in my shipping details.  Hopefully, it is pre-installed.


The instructions I found on the web say I need to call a number to 
activate 4g/lte on my account.


We'll see, I'm sure it'll all be easy once started.

Thanks again,
Traci

On Oct 16, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

Hi Tracy,

My 5S finally showed up this morning after I found out yesterday that 
the
UPS delivery guy delivered it to the store here in my town where they 
sell
Apple product. Unfortunately I didn't realize this until shortly before 
6 PM

when they were already closed so he couldn't get it back from them until
this morning. Oh well, a bit more anticipation built-up never hurt 
anybody.


Anyhow, the setup process is about as simple and easy as it can get and
Apple's It just works definitely applies here.
I took the phone out of the box and even before I turned it on put my 
new

Nano SIM into the phone. Tracy, I am in Canada and while I know ATT and
T-Mobil use SIM cards, I don't think Verizon does as they are still a 
CDMA
carrier. I have to leave it somebody else to confirm his and to explain 
how
your phone number is activated, but I assume it might not be that 
different
as with a SIM where you have to do it by signing  in on the Verizon 
website.


After I inserted my SIM I plugged in the Lightning cable since while a 
new
phone usually has a good amount of charge, I just wanted to make sure it 
had

power and also because I know plugging in the cable turns the phone on.
After a little bit the phone vibrated and I knew it was at that point 
on.
Another advantage when Voiceover is not on yet is that if you plug the 
phone

in it will vibrate once when it comes on.
I waited a maybe 10 more seconds to make sure it was ready, then I 
pressed

the home key 3 times and Voiceover came on.
I selected English from the list of languages, then my location/country 
and

so on.
The setup process is very straight forward, you can join your WiFi right
there, you are asked to sign in with your Apple Id and then you can 
enable

iCloud, iMessage and Facetime, Find my iPhone, SIRI and all that.
The first time I was asked to enter text, I think it was for my WiFi, I
right away turned the rotor to typing mode and selected touch typing 
since

touch typing is not enabled by default.
It probably took me 6 or 8 minutes to go through the entire setup 
process.
You are also asked I think at the end if you want to set up as a new 
phone

or restore from a backup. I chose new phone here, but I am now going to
restore from my encrypted iTunes backup.

Once the setup process was done I had a notification right away that a 
newer
version of iOS  was available. I went into Settings and installed the 
iOS

7.02 update.

While it was doing the iOS 7 update I signed into my mobile carrier's
website to activate my new Nano SIM which I had already received a few 
days

ago.
I use Koodo here in Canada which is a MVNO owned by Telus.
I clicked on Mobile Phones and then on Change Phone.
From here I had 2 radio buttons to choose from, one was Upgrade my 
Phone
and one was New SIM Card in my current phone. I chose the first, 
clicked
next and was now asked to enter the SIM Card Number. I had already 
written

that down so I just copied it and pasted it, clicked next, confirmed one
more time and it was done.

At that point the update was also done and when my phone came back on
Voiceover was talking and my new SIM worked.
I now first went into Voiceover settings and downloaded the Enhanced 
Quality
voice for US English, then the Australien one and then I added German 
and

downloaded the high quality german voice.
Now after I send this I will restore from my encrypted iTunes backup. At
first I thought I start over, but I already had gotten rid of as many 
apps
as I could by uninstalling those I don't use a lot. I also unsynced all 
my

music and photos because I wanted a smaller backup and quicker restore
process. This way I get back the important apps, my email accounts will 
be

restored as will be my Favorites in the Phone app and my text messages.
I use Office 365 which is hosted Exchange from Microsoft for my business
email and Outlook.com for my 

Re: Sharing Voice Memeos to Facebook or Twitter

2013-10-15 Thread Troy Sullivan
There's an app called audio boo (the name has changed a bit I think it's now 
audioboo2?, there's a paid and a free version that will let you share audio 
to fb and twitter, other than that I don't know.
- Original Message - 
From: Sharonda Greenlaw sbgreen...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 4:47 PM
Subject: Sharing Voice Memeos to Facebook or Twitter



Hello all,
Today, I made a ghastly discovery (it was sad for me *smile). Under
IOS 7, the Voice Memeos app no longer allows you to share directly to
Facebook or Twitter any longer.

Does anyone have any awesome suggestions on how this can be done?
Thank you for posting them.

Sharonda

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Re: [IDevices] {Disarmed} FW: If You Think iOS 7 Feels Slow Here's How to Speed It Up

2013-10-15 Thread Troy Sullivan

I do not see facebook in my list of refreshed apps, why is this?
- Original Message - 
From: Victor Gouveia victor.gouv...@rogers.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 2:39 PM
Subject: Re: [IDevices] {Disarmed} FW: If You Think iOS 7 Feels Slow Here's 
How to Speed It Up



Grant specifically stated that it was possible to control the individual 
app's ability to refresh itself instead of using the global refresh 
control found in the general settings.


My apologies for being so vague, I was under the impression that no one 
else cared about my question since only Grant responded to it.


Again, I do apologize for the misunderstanding.


Victor Gouveia
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Training Coordinator
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issue with video playback

2013-10-13 Thread Troy Sullivan
Hi all, When I play a video that I've recorded, I can get to the controls, but 
when I hit play my video will play, but voiceover stops speaking and I have to 
press home and go back into the camera to delete it or whatever I want to do 
with it. Anyone know how to fix this? I'm running the 4s with ios7.

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ITunes match storage and a few general questions

2013-10-12 Thread Troy Sullivan
Hello,
I was reading about ITunes match, from what I understand unless you download 
songs to your phone it won't use the storage on your phone, however does it use 
the storage in the cloud? I'm guessing it would. Reason I'm asking is because I 
upgraded the storage for my cloud so I was wondering if I wanted to subscribe 
to match should I buy more?
Also with ITunes match can you shuffle your songs and have your phone play on 
shuffle? The description on the ITunes wasn't very clear about this.

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face bookwasRe: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-10 Thread Troy Sullivan
I have found one problem, I've notice the facebook app is very sluggish in 
ios7, not sure if it's the phone or the app though as I have found the app a 
bit sluggish in ios6 as well.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.


Not only on my iPhone 4S its slow, but on my ipad4.  It freezes for a few 
second while I am moving around, especially Mail.  It never ever happened 
with iOS 6.1.3 on this once beloved iPad 3. This force of upgrade to iOS 7 
and being able to backgrade is totally wrong.


On Oct 7, 2013, at 2:56 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Are you talking about the iPhone 4S? I upgraded to IOS 7, and I don't find 
it any more sluggish than IOS 6.



On 10/07/2013 12:15 AM, glazingfr...@gmail.com wrote:
Another problem with iOS 7 update to iPhone 4/s.  It makes the entire
everything sluggish, even after disabling certain fancy features. It's
really not fair.

On Oct 6, 2013, at 6:57 PM, Gary Petraccaro garypet...@gmail.com
mailto:garypet...@gmail.com wrote:


Now that you mention it, my phone when charging is locked.

   - Original Message -
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   *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
   *Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2013 7:12 AM
   *Subject:* Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

   Well this issue changes by the day.  Even on 1% battery, without
   charger, my iPhone 4S is trying to download iOS7.02.  So contrary
   to what David C. has stated, it looks as if the charger is now
   irrelevant. Which is odd, because I was able to stop the download
   a few days ago by disconnecting the charger, so something has
   changed.  My tests also suggest that the unit downloads the update
   whether locked or not. So it seems the only way to stop this
   download now is to turn WiFi off.  And who knows, Apple may be
   able to remove that barrier for those of us holding out...?


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Re: [IDevices] {Disarmed} FW: How to Fix the Keyboard Typing Lag with iOS 7 on Older Devices

2013-10-09 Thread Troy Sullivan
I did this and it did help with some slowness.
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  From: David Chittenden 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 4:44 PM
  Subject: Fwd: [IDevices] {Disarmed} FW: How to Fix the Keyboard Typing Lag 
with iOS 7 on Older Devices


  Feed: OS X Daily
Posted on: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 12:47 PM
Author: Paul Horowitz
Subject: How to Fix the Keyboard Typing Lag with iOS 7 on Older Devices



  Some users have noticed that certain older iPhone and iPad models 
feel slower after updating to iOS 7. We’ve offered a variety of tips to speed 
things up, but one persistent issue that has we’ve been contacted about 
regards the mysterious keyboard lag and typing delay that seems to only apply 
to older devices, where there is a sizable delay between tapping a key and the 
character appearing on screen.



  The exact reason for the typing lag is difficult to determine, but a 
commonality is that these devices have been updated to iOS 7 from previous iOS 
versions, which could suggest some old outdated settings are turning the 
keyboard sluggish. Rather than doing a complete restore and clean install of 
iOS 7 though, a resolution that has worked fairly well is simply choosing to 
reset all settings on the device:

a.. Open Settings and go to “General†
b.. Choose “Reset† and then select “Reset All Settings† – 
confirm the reset twice when asked, you will also need to enter a passcode if 
one is set


  The iOS device will reboot and show a progress bar indicator as all 
settings on the device are trashed and reset to defaults. When finished, the 
device will boot up as normal again.

  This dumps all customizations and settings to iOS, meaning you’ll 
need to do things like bold the font, set your wallpaper, rejoin wi-fi 
networks, and make other usability adjustments again, but it does have a 
noticeable impact on the keyboard lag issue that has impacted some users, at 
least on an iPhone 4, 4S, and iPad 3.

  Resetting all settings applies exclusively to settings and does not 
delete any data from your device and is not to be confuse with the completely 
separate procedure of a full device reset to factory settings, the latter of 
which removes everything as if it was a brand new piece of hardware.

  There may be a relationship to the lag and the autocorrect 
dictionary, and some users have reported success with resetting the 
auto-correction dictionary list. In our tests that did not work reliably enough 
to recommend it though, and instead the best trick we’ve found so far 
involves a universal settings reset. 

  It is quite likely an upcoming iOS software update will resolve this 
issue completely, but in the meantime try out the settings reset, it can help.




 


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Re: Siri is no longer human

2013-10-09 Thread Troy Sullivan
To be honest I like Susan's voice better, bring her back Apple!
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  Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 5:44 PM
  Subject: Siri is no longer human


  Boy, I am really slow. I should have picked this up much earlier. Siri's male 
and female voices are synthesized. Poor Susan what's her name lost out to 
synthetic speech. No wonder Siri can read Wikipedia.

   

  Neal


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turning off update apps automatically

2013-10-09 Thread Troy Sullivan
Where do I go to turn off update apps automatically? Some how this setting got 
turned on.
Thanks.

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Re: How can I track my iPhone afte I has been stolen?

2013-10-08 Thread Troy Sullivan
Yes, I went to ICloud.com to log in just to see how jaws friendly it was, 
It's not very jaws friendly at all, now with a mac I don't know if it's any 
different.
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From: Carol Pearson carol.pearso...@googlemail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 4:26 PM
Subject: Re: How can I track my iPhone afte I has been stolen?


Thanks. Had already turned it on, but was thinking  there was something 
more I had to do! Now I'm sorted, and I don't intend thieves should get 
mine!


Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

On 8 Oct 2013, at 07:36 pm, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

Hi Eileen and Carol,

Yes, Eileen, you can wipe the phone if you log into iCloud or use Find my
iPhone on another iDevice. I don't think that this turns off Find my 
iPhone,

though.

Carol, you do not have to have the Find my iPhone app downloaded for this 
to

work. All you have to do is go into Settings, iCloud and turn on Find my
iPhone. The app is only an interface to track down a lost or stolen device
from another iDevice. If you, for example, have an iPad and if memory 
serves

me right I think you do, it would make sense to download Find my iPhone to
your iPad and, I guess, you could just have it on your iPhone, too, in 
case

your iPad was stolen. I assume most people are more likely to have their
iPhone stolen since you would more often have it with you and use it in
public.

The fact is that you need sighted help anyways whether you use Find my
iPhone or iCloud.com to track it since it will show the location of your
phone on a map.

The so-called Kill Function which Apple has built into iOS 7 makes it 
much
more difficult for a thief to actually get something out of the phone 
since
like I said before, it prevents somebody from turning off Find my iPhone. 
I

do think one can still wipe or restore the phone especially if no passcode
has been set. Of course if Ahmed had a passcode on his phone it would make
it yet harder for the thief to benefit from steeling the phone.

Eileen, I think security is actually one of the main reasons to upgrade to 
a
5S especially if you are still on a 4 or 4S and would also benefit from 
the

better processor, better camera and other new features. I completely agree
with what they said during the keynote regarding how most people can't be
bothered setting up a passcode and that Touch ID makes having your phone
secured a lot easier. Of course there are people who think Apple collects
all these fingerprints and passes them on to the NSA or FBI or whatever, 
but
I somehow doubt that and in any case, many countries have and many more 
will

add fingerprints to passports and I couldn't care less if the NSA had my
fingerprint on file since I am not doing anything wrong or illegal and 
don't

plan to start.
In a way this is a bit like car theft. An iPhone without a passcode is
really not so different from an unlocked car with the keys in the 
ignition.

However, if you lock your car and have an alarm or even GPS on it
(equivalent to a passcode and turning on Find my iPhone) it's a lot harder
to steel it. OK, so yes, it's still easy to steel an iPhone as opposed to 
a

car since you can grab it and run away with it and the thief may not know
whether it is secured or not, but hopefully over time as more andmore 
people

employ these security measures the theft of iPhones will drop because
thieves may not want to take the risk that the device is useless to them 
and

that they might even be tracked down.

I heard of one case on the Today in iOS Podcast where a couple of guys 
stole

a ladies iPhone in California. They then went to the beach and had fun
taking pictures of each other not realizing that said lady had Photostream
turned on and that all the pictures of them were nicely uploaded to her
computer. She printed out a few and since she also had Find my iPhone 
turned
on, the police tracked the phone and easily identified the thieves based 
on

the pictures.


Best regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Eileens Misrahi
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 11:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How can I track my iPhone afte I has been stolen?

Hello,

I'm so sorry that this happened to you. The advise that Sieghard gave in
going to the police is wise. Last year, my younger son was held up in San
Francisco at gun point to his head. Of course, they only wanted the phone
and any other electrnic devices. Luckily, he only had the phone.

Sieghard and all, can't you wipe the phone clean through Find My Phone
app? I guess this would not allow the chance to find it through the app
though. Well, I guess this brings me back to reality and think hard about
getting a new phone. Please keep us in the loop as far as the outcome.

Best,
Eileen

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 8, 2013, at 10:56 AM, Carol Pearson 
carol.pearso...@googlemail.com

wrote:


Oh, so you 

find my friends wasRe: Find My Phone app: A Must Have

2013-10-08 Thread Troy Sullivan
Good point, but it's convincing your friends that you aren't going to use 
find my friends to stalk them, lol.
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From: Eileens Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 08, 2013 2:14 PM
Subject: Find My Phone app: A Must Have


Hello,

The app find My Phone does need to be downloaded onto the phone. I am not 
sure of all of the procedures, but it was very simple to set up. Also, there 
is another app call find My Friends. It was recommended to install this 
app and to have all phones in the family, plus friends invited. This way you 
can immediately start tracking a stolen phone. In my son's case. he stated 
that there wasn't much battery left on it, so I had a small window to work 
with. I really need to check to see if all of my info is current and update 
it if need be. HTH.


Eileen


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answering call waiting, and 3 way calling?

2013-10-08 Thread Troy Sullivan
Hi all,
One of the things I haven't learned on the IPhone is how to answer call 
waiting, and do a 3 way call. How is this done? I have the 4s.
Thanks.

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Re: ITunes Radio is starting to drive me crazy.

2013-10-07 Thread Troy Sullivan
I'm glad I'm not the only one. I thought maybe it was my phone. I didn't 
keep track but yesterday ITunes radio did stop playing for me at some point, 
it was a few hours but can't remember how many. Don't have this issue with 
pandora.
- Original Message - 
From: David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 5:25 PM
Subject: Re: ITunes Radio is starting to drive me crazy.


The maximum I have had iTunes radio playing is two hours. I have not had any 
difficulties with it.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 8 Oct 2013, at 0:46, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

I'm using an iPhone 4S as well. I'm not sure I've had it on for more than 
45 minutes though. I'll try to pay attention to this today.


I definitely don't think this is normal behavior though. I Googled for 
some similar issues, but I didn't see anything other than just normal 
buffering issues, which could be happening anywhere from your phone 
through your router to the music server.



On 10/07/2013 06:32 AM, Liz And Sammie wrote:
I am using an iPhone 4s. I cleared out the app switcher. I powered the 
phone down and turn the phone back on. I tried something else. I cleared 
out the history in iTunes radio, and that seemed to help a bit. However I 
can only listen to a station for about 45 minutes at a time is this 
normal?


Liz Ulrich and Leader Dog Sammie


Westwood Church of God Prayer Chain Coordinator

http://www.facebook.com/elizabeth.ulrich.1
Sent from my very intelligent ParrotHead of an IPhone

On Oct 7, 2013, at 7:27 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com 
wrote:


I have not been noticing this behavior myself. Has it always happened 
for you when using iTunes Radio? What phone are you doing this on? Have 
you tried closing apps in the App Switcher and maybe even powering your 
phone off and on?



On 10/06/2013 10:55 PM, Liz and Sammie wrote:
I am attempting to listen to a station right now, and I can't get 
through a

whole track before I am kicked out of the stationed back to the station
list.  Has anyone been experiencing this.  Also, my stations at best 
have

been playing 2 or 3 songs and then they stop playing.  Has anyone
experienced this issue as well?  If this keeps up, I am going to renew 
my

Pandora subscription.

Liz Ulrich and Leader dog Sammie

Westwood Church of God Prayer Chain Coordinator

HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1


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Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-07 Thread Troy Sullivan
Someone on applevis under the accessibility bugs topic who has the speaker 
phone bug suggested switching the option to the headset under accessibility, 
however I tried this and when I hold the phone to my ear I hear nothing at all 
coming out of the earpeace so I don't think this works unless this person is 
using a headset.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Regina Alvarado 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 3:33 PM
  Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.







  Have you tried turning phone 4s off and back on or even resetting with home 
button and wake/sleep? I find no sluggishness in my 4s, only the sensitivity, 
and turning off the IOs sounds seems to have helped that. Try emptying the app 
switcher too. No, Apple definitely should not be putting it on the phone, but 
the IOS itself is definitely not that bad. Looking forward to getting a bigger 
phone when I can, though.reggie and Allegra

  On Oct 7, 2013, at 1:15 AM, glazingfr...@gmail.com glazingfr...@gmail.com 
wrote:


  Another problem with iOS 7 update to iPhone 4/s.  It makes the entire 
everything sluggish, even after disabling certain fancy features. It's really 
not fair. 

  On Oct 6, 2013, at 6:57 PM, Gary Petraccaro garypet...@gmail.com wrote:


Now that you mention it, my phone when charging is locked.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Ierne 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 30, 2013 7:12 AM
  Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.


  Well this issue changes by the day.  Even on 1% battery, without charger, 
my iPhone 4S is trying to download iOS7.02.  So contrary to what David C. has 
stated, it looks as if the charger is now irrelevant. Which is odd, because I 
was able to stop the download a few days ago by disconnecting the charger, so 
something has changed.  My tests also suggest that the unit downloads the 
update whether locked or not. So it seems the only way to stop this download 
now is to turn WiFi off.  And who knows, Apple may be able to remove that 
barrier for those of us holding out...? 



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how to turn off notifications on lock screen?

2013-10-07 Thread Troy Sullivan
I have turned this on some how and not sure how to turn it off. but now vo is 
reading my notifications on the lock screen, I don't want it to do this, I want 
to know if I have a notification but I don't want to hear vo jabber what it is 
because I want to check it when I feel like it. How do I turn this off?

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Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Troy Sullivan
 it, the closest I've
got to
murder is holding an Oreo under the milk until the bubbles stop. -
Sheldon
Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47

On 10/4/2013 3:43 AM, Pablo Morales wrote:

Well, it could be ridiculous for you. Even though, when I see that the
IOs is downloaded automatically to my iPhone, without my agreement,
and it is filling space in my iPhone, and is no way to remove that
information stored in my iPhone, I don't see so ridiculous my email.
Either apple.
When an IOs update appear, every body is looking for improvements in
the operated system, we are not looking for bugs, or steps back in our
devices. So I don't see so ridiculous my email. Less when the apple
devices are the more expensive devices, no when apple is a company
that sales iDevices for a price that for the most part of the people
on the world, are impossible.
When you say that apple give us the right to use their software, but
at the same time they are storing data in my iPhone with out my
permission, and the only way to make that space free is installing the
IOs 7, is not a freedom, it is not a right the god apple gives to us.
This is a command from apple.
so I don't see so ridiculous  my email.
when we install a new IOs, every body is waiting improvements, not
bugs, and not bunches of bugs as IOs 7  has. Even though, as you say,
apple give us the right to use their software, thing that is not a
right, it is a command, but their software is not working well, but we
are not able to go back to the IOs that was working better, it is a
right?
No, it is not a right, it is a command.So, I don't see my email,
ridiculous .
Do not forget something. The device that you use, wasn't free. You
paid for that, and you paid money that is not a little bit of money,
it was money that could be the payment for  a whole year of work in
many
countries  on the world. Money that you paid, and it is money that
you
paid because you were buying a good device. No a cheaper device.
So, I don't see my email as you said. ridiculous .
But let me tell  you in my opinion what is ridiculous .
ridiculous  is when we pay to a company that created a good software,
a good hardware, hardware and software that made a difference in your
life. But later they changed the software, and you start to get
problems with many things in your device, but you fill ok, because
every IOs bring bugs. It is ridiculous , because you didn't pay with
money cracked, you didn't paid it with  a check without funds, you
paid it with money, good money.
What right are you talking about. They installed the data in my
iPhone, without my agreement, they offert a good IOs, but it brings a
lot of bugs, and they don't allow us to come back to the software that
they created, that works better is a right?
No, it is not a right.

On Oct 3, 2013, at 10:02 PM, John Diakogeorgiou
jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:

Pablo your email is ridiculous. first of all no one said you had to
update your software. That was your choice. Second of all you don't
own the software you own the phone and Apple is giving you the right
to use their software. The software works quite well. Yes a few bugs
exist but you should have been aware of them when you chose to use
the software.


On 10/3/13, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:
So is it running slow on the 5s as well?
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Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

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Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know 
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- Original Message -
From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com
To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now
forcing iOS 6

holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.


Hi,

I haven't seen apps take 5 seconds to open on an iPhone 4S using IOS
7. Is

it slower than my iPhone 5?  Yes.  But, I think 5 seconds to open
most apps

is a bit of an exaggeration.  Sure, some apps might take a while,
the more resource intensive ones, but, definitely not the majority
of apps.

JMO.

Ricardo Walker
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Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info


On Oct 2, 2013, at 7:01 PM, Pablo Morales
pablomorale...@gmail.com
wrote:

Also, 5 seconds is too much. We have to use the iPhone when we are
on the

streets, when we are going to the store, when we get a ride, and we
need the gps, So 5  seconds is too much. Now, if in the newer
versions of iPhone takes around 2 seconds, I would like to know,
why?
The new things of IOs 7 is enough to make slower the phones?
maybe the graphic appearance?


- Original Message - From: Troy Sullivan
troysulliva...@gmail.com
To: viphone

Re: Phone is frozen, how do I fix this?

2013-10-06 Thread Troy Sullivan
Just to note, one thing I do to see if my phone is on or off without speach 
is to toggle the mute switch, When flipped down to mute you should feel the 
phone do a short vibration.
- Original Message - 
From: Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: Phone is frozen, how do I fix this?


Hi,

Do you know for sure that the battery hasn't run out of charge? Are
you able to confirm visually that the phone is not off? In these
situations it's usually worth connecting the phone to a wall outlet
and leaving it for a few minutes, just to double check that a charge
won't solve the problem as it would be a shame to go through the
restore process if the problem was a simple low battery related one.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 10/2/13, hannah day hannahday2...@googlemail.com wrote:

Jen i had this once before on my old phone  a restore should fix this
or you could try and hold down the power button and the home key at the
same timee for about 10 seckons and the phone should reboot if not i
would do a restre in itunes if this isn't possible chat soon hannah


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On 02/10/2013 14:12, Jen Colley wrote:

Hi,
All of a sudden my phone is saying nothing and the battery is not dead.
It’s like it’s off but when I turn it on nothing happens.
I’ve had this problem once before but I forget what was done to get it
right once again.
Jen

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Re: making and receiving calls since the upgrade

2013-10-06 Thread Troy Sullivan
Can you please explain in more detail what issues you are having? On my 4s, 
the only issue I am having is when receiving calls is the speaker phone does 
not automatically switch to the earpeace when holding the phone to your ear. 
Well it does, but not right away. This is a known issue and from what I 
understand apple is working on this. I'm not sure about the 5 series as I 
don't have it.

Other than that I have no other issues with the phone portion.
- Original Message - 
From: John Gallagher j...@pianotuner.plus.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 5:18 AM
Subject: making and receiving calls since the upgrade



Hi all,
Since the upgrade my iphone 4 s seems not as good when making and 
receiving calls.
First of all to save lots of battery life I went in to settings, general 
accessability then I checked reduce motion to be on as this saves lots of 
battery life.

found this out from a brilliant podcast look at
www.frequencycast.com
my samsung galaxy s iii is far better when making and receiving calls.
hear in the uk I am with vodafone with my iphone and t mobile on the 
samsung.
wonder if the iphone 5 is better for making and receiving calls after all 
it's meant to be a phone.


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Re: My phone no longer recognizes me!

2013-10-06 Thread Troy Sullivan

Yes, resetting your settings probably caused this issue.
I can't remember the steps on adding your name so she knows who you are.

- Original Message - 
From: hannah day hannahday2...@googlemail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 2:54 AM
Subject: Re: My phone no longer recognizes me!


Jim i've got a simular problem my phone has stopped calling me also and
i don't no what the issue is . i called my self hannah banarna in seri
and he no longer calls me this and i don't no how to get him back

I reseted my net work settings a few days agoe wunder if this has
anything to do with it?


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On 03/10/2013 07:50, Jim Portillo wrote:

Hi there,

I’m hoping someone might have a good answer for me.

If you recall, I emailed mentioning that there had been a change
regarding my own personal contact information in my contacts list on my
IPhone.

Well, when I was using Siri, I noticed it no longer called me by name
and didn’t seem to know who I was.  Also, I noticed that when I’d look
in my contacts list, before actually going through the list, it would
say something like “My number” and then say my number.  This time, it no
longer presents my number.

Did I somehow unregister my phone or do something with the information
my phone had about me?  How do I recover it?

Do I have to do something via Itunes, or go somewhere in the settings?

Any help would be appreciated, please.  Thank you.

Jim

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Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-06 Thread Troy Sullivan
 allow us to come back to the software that
they created, that works better is a right?
No, it is not a right.

On Oct 3, 2013, at 10:02 PM, John Diakogeorgiou
jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:

Pablo your email is ridiculous. first of all no one said you had to
update your software. That was your choice. Second of all you don't
own the software you own the phone and Apple is giving you the right
to use their software. The software works quite well. Yes a few bugs
exist but you should have been aware of them when you chose to use
the software.


On 10/3/13, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:
So is it running slow on the 5s as well?
---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act
now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances
played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics
format formerly on my

website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message -
From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com
To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:44 PM
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now
forcing iOS 6

holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.


Hi,

I haven't seen apps take 5 seconds to open on an iPhone 4S using IOS
7. Is

it slower than my iPhone 5?  Yes.  But, I think 5 seconds to open
most apps

is a bit of an exaggeration.  Sure, some apps might take a while,
the more resource intensive ones, but, definitely not the majority
of apps.

JMO.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
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On Oct 2, 2013, at 7:01 PM, Pablo Morales
pablomorale...@gmail.com
wrote:

Also, 5 seconds is too much. We have to use the iPhone when we are
on the

streets, when we are going to the store, when we get a ride, and we
need the gps, So 5  seconds is too much. Now, if in the newer
versions of iPhone takes around 2 seconds, I would like to know,
why?
The new things of IOs 7 is enough to make slower the phones?
maybe the graphic appearance?


- Original Message - From: Troy Sullivan
troysulliva...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now
forcing iOS

6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.



On my 4s, I notice apps take about 5 seconds to load, not right
away, it

could be because I have an older phone though. I'm not able to
upgrade without a discount until 2015 though so I will deal.
- Original Message - From: Chris H
christopher...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now
forcing iOS

6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.



Agreed. Apps took under five seconds to load on a 4, but under
two on a

4s. So over half the time is cut between each phone.

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On 02/10/2013 13:47, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
Apps are taking up to 50 seconds to start running? Hmm, that
sounds like you need to restore and start over. Even if iOS runs
slower on older phones, apps won't take 50 seconds to start up.
i just can't buy that.

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On 9/30/2013 10:25 AM, Pablo Morales wrote:
Yes, IOs 7  is good running on new devices like iPhone 4s, 5
and 5s, but this new IOs make slower the iPhone 4, and is very
annoying try to run what ever app when voice over works so
slow, when what ever app takes until 50 seconds to start
opening, and when we have to try and try several times to run
an app. Is obvious that IOs 7 is heavy for the processor that
the iPhone 4 has, so make an update of operated system will be
good for the users who has iDevices with processors relative
new, but not every body is in position of go to buy an iPhone
5s, or pay around 800$ every years when ever apple create an
new device. We are customers, and customers of apple doesn't
mean richness.
Is a lot of people who had to make a very hard effort to buy an
iPhone, so why apple is trying to make those devices slower,
and push them to buy new devices with faster processors to run
what ever IOs apple wants?
We are the owners of our iDevices, we are not renting those
devices, so if I paid for that device, why apple has rights on
my property?





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what reset to use and when?

2013-10-06 Thread Troy Sullivan
I know there's different methods when resetting the IPhone, I was just curious 
on under what conditions each of them applied?
I know it's necessary to do a power on reset when the phone is frozen (holding 
the home and power at the same time, but when is it necessary to use the reset 
under general? I know there are 2 options, one is just reset which from what I 
understand resets settings to default without aracing data and apps, then 
there's an arace all to wipe the phone clean. When is it necessary to do either 
or?

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Re: Installing IOS 7

2013-10-06 Thread Troy Sullivan
You can bypass it.
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  From: Pinky 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2013 8:42 PM
  Subject: Installing IOS 7


  Hi,

   

  When you install IOS 7 do you have to put in a passcode after install or can 
you by pass that option on setup?


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Re: got the otter box defender for the iPhone5s

2013-10-05 Thread Troy Sullivan
That's it, just a very well protective case, and it does have an apple logo on 
the back, but it's just a strong case.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ray T. Mahorney 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2013 9:07 AM
  Subject: RE: got the otter box defender for the iPhone5s


  what other bells and whistles does this case have?

   

   

  Ray T. Mahorney

  WA4WGA

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Troy Sullivan
  Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 01:52
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: got the otter box defender for the iPhone5s

   

  I love mine! a bit bulky, but protects my phone very well! I have a 4s. I 
would assume they will also come out with tactal screen protectors for the 5s 
as well?

- Original Message - 

From: Lynda Ingraham 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 2:12 PM

Subject: RE: got the otter box defender for the iPhone5s

 

Hi Kliphton, 

 

How is sound-phone calls etc.? I am hard-of-hearing and am wondering if the 
sound gets muffled. 

 

Thank you, 

 

Lynda 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Kliphton
Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 12:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: got the otter box defender for the iPhone5s

 

Well, after patiently waiting for my local ATT store to get them in, I 
finally got a call this morning that mine had arrived.  I know some don't like 
this case, because it makes the phone a little bulky.  I will take bulky over 
having to buy a new phone for 700 bucks, and I like the handy belt clip.  This 
model is basically just like all the other models, except it feels a little 
lighter, and the home button is exposed.  It's indented, so not easily 
scratched, kind of neatly placed if you ast me.  And the finger prints that I 
had saved, are still working with the case on.  I am actually impressed with 
this case, I would give  it a 5 out of five stars.  NIce design, very light 
wait, and easy to open and remove.  I do that about once a week to make sure is 
all clean and tight.  

 

Kliphton Senior

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Re: Automatic iOS 7 download and space considerations

2013-10-04 Thread Troy Sullivan
I only use my 4s for apps and have 11.1 gb on it. being that I have a 16 gb 
this is why I don't download music and delete books that I read when I do read 
after reading them.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 3:28 PM
  Subject: Automatic iOS 7 download and space considerations


  Hello,

   

  Jonathan as always explains things like nobody else and I do agree that the 
automatic downloading of iOS 7 is maybe not something Apple should force on 
people even though it is also not new since they did the same with iOS 5 and 
iOS 6. 

   

  Here is a point, though, which I wonder about:

   

  People mostly complain that on something like a 16 Gb phone this update takes 
up a lot of space and I would agree that it does. If you only have maybe 3 or 4 
Gb free space and this is almost 3 Gb it doesn't leave you with much. If you 
use a 16 Gb phone but you don't really fill your device with music and only use 
storage space for some apps, maybe a few books or pictures, then you probably 
have at least 6 or 8 Gb free space in which case it's a mute point if half of 
that space is used up by the update since chances are you won't run out of 
space.

   

  If your phone is so full that maybe you only have 1 Gb free I wonder what 
happens then. I somehow doubt Apple randomly can delete stuff from your phone 
to make room for the update, it is my guess that if you went to Software Update 
in General Settings it would have an Download and Install option since it 
could not download the update and if you tried it you would be informed that 
there wasn't enough space. At that point you would have to take off (un-sync) 
some music, pictures, books or apps depending on what you have on your phone to 
fill it up should you want to install the update, afterwards you could resync 
that content.

   

  So, maybe this is something to remember next year as a work-around. If you 
have a 16 Gb device and don't want a new iOS update to download, simply make 
sure you fill your device with content and only leave maybe less than 2 Gb free 
for use, this way there is not enough space for the update to download and you 
are good to go. If you have 5, 6 or 8 Gb of free space or even more then having 
the just under 3 Gb download sitting on your device is a mute point. Should 
people have to do this? No, probably not, I think Apple should put something 
into the Settings which just as you can turn off automatic app updates allows 
you to turn off automatic iOS update downloads. They could even have this set 
to On by default since then it's up to each person who cares enough to not want 
this to turn it off.

   

   

  Regards,

  Sieghard

   

   

   

  a quarter or and have a smaller 

  First, it is my understanding that this only downloads via 

   

  is a point, though, regarding space. People complain that if they have .

   

  OK, 


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Re: got the otter box defender for the iPhone5s

2013-10-03 Thread Troy Sullivan
I love mine! a bit bulky, but protects my phone very well! I have a 4s. I would 
assume they will also come out with tactal screen protectors for the 5s as well?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lynda Ingraham 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 2:12 PM
  Subject: RE: got the otter box defender for the iPhone5s


  Hi Kliphton, 

   

  How is sound-phone calls etc.? I am hard-of-hearing and am wondering if the 
sound gets muffled. 

   

  Thank you, 

   

  Lynda 

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Kliphton
  Sent: Thursday, October 03, 2013 12:25 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: got the otter box defender for the iPhone5s

   

  Well, after patiently waiting for my local ATT store to get them in, I 
finally got a call this morning that mine had arrived.  I know some don't like 
this case, because it makes the phone a little bulky.  I will take bulky over 
having to buy a new phone for 700 bucks, and I like the handy belt clip.  This 
model is basically just like all the other models, except it feels a little 
lighter, and the home button is exposed.  It's indented, so not easily 
scratched, kind of neatly placed if you ast me.  And the finger prints that I 
had saved, are still working with the case on.  I am actually impressed with 
this case, I would give  it a 5 out of five stars.  NIce design, very light 
wait, and easy to open and remove.  I do that about once a week to make sure is 
all clean and tight.  

   

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Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-10-02 Thread Troy Sullivan
On my 4s, I notice apps take about 5 seconds to load, not right away, it 
could be because I have an older phone though. I'm not able to upgrade 
without a discount until 2015 though so I will deal.
- Original Message - 
From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 2:03 PM
Subject: Re: About iOS 7, is it really so bad? was: Apple now forcing iOS 6 
holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.



Agreed. Apps took under five seconds to load on a 4, but under two on a 
4s. So over half the time is cut between each phone.


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On 02/10/2013 13:47, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:

Apps are taking up to 50 seconds to start running? Hmm, that sounds like
you need to restore and start over. Even if iOS runs slower on older
phones, apps won't take 50 seconds to start up. i just can't buy that.

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On 9/30/2013 10:25 AM, Pablo Morales wrote:

Yes, IOs 7  is good running on new devices like iPhone 4s, 5 and 5s, but
this new IOs make slower the iPhone 4, and is very annoying try to run
what ever app when voice over works so slow, when what ever app takes
until 50 seconds to start opening, and when we have to try and try
several times to run an app. Is obvious that IOs 7 is heavy for the
processor that the iPhone 4 has, so make an update of operated system
will be good for the users who has iDevices with processors relative
new, but not every body is in position of go to buy an iPhone 5s, or pay
around 800$ every years when ever apple create an new device. We are
customers, and customers of apple doesn't mean richness.
Is a lot of people who had to make a very hard effort to buy an iPhone,
so why apple is trying to make those devices slower, and push them to
buy new devices with faster processors to run what ever IOs apple wants?
We are the owners of our iDevices, we are not renting those devices, so
if I paid for that device, why apple has rights on my property?





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Re: new ring tones

2013-10-02 Thread Troy Sullivan
I don't like the newer ones, was wondering what the classic button was under 
sounds but now I know.
- Original Message - 
From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: new ring tones


I used the old phone tone for a long time for my tone and just left it on 
the default tone when i installed iOS 7 but the new tones sound a bit 
sissyish to me. I'll probably eventually switch it back to the old phone 
tone.

---

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my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: Wayne Merritt wcmerr...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: new ring tones



I'm glad they kept the older tones since I can't always hear the new
ones due to my hearing loss. I have gotten used to some of the older
ones that are quite distinct, like the old phone and the callipso
sound for text messages. I do like many of the newer ones though.

Regards,
Wayne

On 10/2/13, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net wrote:
I think they kind of sort of had to keep the old tones or listen to 
people
moaning and groaning because they had selected specific tones for 
friends
and family.  For example, I had assigned the dog bark ring tone to 
Leader
Dogs for the Blind sense I have a Leader Dog and it amuses me when my 
phone

starts barking!  I know it's LD calling.
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  - Original Message -
  From: Elizabeth Campbell
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 5:58 AM
  Subject: new ring tones


  Hello all,

  Sorry if I'm bringing up a topic that has already been mentioned, but 
I

like the new ring tones added in IOS 7.



  I also discovered that the classic ones are still available.



  Liz


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Re: Random and Unexplained Screen Locked

2013-10-01 Thread Troy Sullivan

I experienced this the other day while listening to pandora.
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Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: Random and Unexplained Screen Locked



I have this happen when playing any audio content.

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Subject: Re: Random and Unexplained Screen Locked

I'v had the same thing happen on my 4s running ios7.

On 10/1/13, SSEric sseri...@gmail.com wrote:


I just hear screen lock, without having heard any incoming mail, 
message,

etc. when I check I don't have anything new, including alarms, reminders,
etc. I cannot swear 100% there isn't some correlating event. This seems 
to

occur once or twice a day since the seven update.

Is anyone else experiencing such a thing? I am running and iPhone 5 on
Verizon, 16 GB black model.

Thanks for any thoughts.

Eric

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Re: turn on voice over without siri

2013-09-29 Thread Troy Sullivan
Then how was my new IPhone I ordered from verizon able to do the tripple 
home click right out of the box? I'm sure verizon did not know I was blind 
when they sent it. I'm just trying to understand.
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Subject: Re: turn on voice over without siri


Right, this will only work if it's done with the initial set up. If the 
phone was set up without using voiceOver then triple click home won't work 
until you go into Settings - General _ Accessibility and set it up.


On 09/29/2013 06:32 AM, Negoslav Sabev wrote:

Yes, I could if it is set up this way. But when I received my iPhone it
was not so. Also after restore it doesn't work.
Negoslav
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Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: turn on voice over without siri



Can't you just use the triple click of the home button?

On 09/28/2013 07:19 AM, Negoslav Sabev wrote:

Hello,

Is it possible in IOS7 to turn on VO without Siri? I mean if no 
internet

connection (Wi-Fi or 3g) is available and there is no computer with
iTunes installed. If the answer is no, wouldn't it be great if you can
turn VO on using your voice? I think we should give this idea to the
Apple's accessibility team. Turning on or off accessibility options
would be helpful for different groups disabled users, I think.

Negoslav


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Re: Problem with Siri and raised to speak with new version of software

2013-09-29 Thread Troy Sullivan

I have the same issue from time to time. I'm not sure why this is happening.
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Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2013 3:15 PM
Subject: Problem with Siri and raised to speak with new version of software


Good afternoon everyone,
My apologies if this post has already been sent before, but I just have a 
quick question. I just updated my iPhone to version seven, and I noticed a 
problem with Siri when I use it with the race to speak function. Sometimes 
it doesn't seem to want to listen as it should, but at other times it will 
go ahead and listen, but after it dings, there is no response. When I lower 
the phone away from my face and touch the screen, I noticed that it has 
brought up whatever I have asked for Siri to bring up, but I thought it was 
supposed to dialogue with me just as it does when I use the home button. I 
noticed that it also happens with my husband's iPhone for S, which is also 
updated. I thought I was supposed to be able to dialogue with Siri without 
lowering the phone just as I do when using the home button. Could anyone 
shed some light on this? Thank you very much and I look forward to your 
responses.

Kerri
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Re: turn on voice over without siri

2013-09-28 Thread Troy Sullivan
I bought my 4s from verizon, when it got delivered to me I was able to use 
tripple click home to turn vo on to set up my phone, but I hear it isn't 
working that way on all devices.
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Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 12:14 PM
Subject: RE: turn on voice over without siri



As far as I'm aware, tripple click home doesn't actually work in the setup
screen. Again, because it's not actually enabled by default. At least, 
none

of the devices I've had a hand in setting up have ever had that option.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: September 28, 2013 11:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: turn on voice over without siri

Ah, I assumed that when you used the triple click home to start VoiceOver
during the set up process then this would be set.

On 09/28/2013 10:32 AM, May and Noah wrote:

You have to set it up that way first it's not the default.

May and Prince Noah
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On 2013-09-28, at 9:59 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

wrote:



Can't you just use the triple click of the home button?

On 09/28/2013 07:19 AM, Negoslav Sabev wrote:

Hello,

Is it possible in IOS7 to turn on VO without Siri? I mean if no
internet connection (Wi-Fi or 3g) is available and there is no
computer with iTunes installed. If the answer is no, wouldn't it be
great if you can turn VO on using your voice? I think we should give
this idea to the Apple's accessibility team. Turning on or off
accessibility options would be helpful for different groups disabled

users, I think.


Negoslav


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Re: problem when answering calls

2013-09-28 Thread Troy Sullivan
I've noticed it off and on since upgrading, I've cleaned the sensor which 
helps for a while but then it does it again.
However on outgoing calls I have no trouble with it just on incoming, takes 
a few seconds to kick in after you answer.
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Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: problem when answering calls



I'm running IOS 7 on a 4S, and I haven't noticed this issue.

On 09/26/2013 10:14 AM, CD wrote:

I have a horrible time answering calls with the speaker sensor since
upgrading.  So I believe it has somethig to do with the 4s having a 
slower

reaction.  I've seen the 5s and it is much more stable and I can't wait
until May when I can upgrade to the 5s.


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Behalf

Of John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 8:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: problem when answering calls

I don't think its an accessability  issue. I've never seen this problem 
on a

4, 5 or 5s.

On 9/26/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

I did have this happening a bit in iOS 6 with my 4S and it can be
hardware related since there is a proximity sensor in the phone.
However, it might be a bit worse in iOS 7 although there haven't been
many people reporting this from what I have seen. Anyhow, there is
nothing you can really do except that you can of course avoid it by
using a headset or I guess you could turn Voiceover off with a triple
click home before you pick up the call, but then of course using a
2-finger double tap wouldn't work to pick up the call and the triple
click home to turn off Voiceover doesn't work after you pick it up.
On my 4S I find that it often happens right at the beginning of the
call and after a few seconds it sort of settles down. I have a 5S on
the way and hopefully it won't be an issue with it.

I would report it to Apple Accessibility if you are sure this never
happened before you upgraded. In fact, if you agree with the way I
feel, I would probably suggest that they take this automatic switching
out of Voiceover completely. It's easy enough for example in apps like
Skype to switch to speakerphone by tapping on the Speakerphone button
and I don't see why we can't do this like anybody else with the
regular Phone app. I am sure Apple thought they want to make this easy
for a blind person so they don't have to find the Speakerphone button,
but if anything they could implement a Shake to Switch feature or
maybe a custom gesture would be possible, like drawing an S: during
a call would toggle speakerphone.
.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Behalf Of Martin Nelson
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 7:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: problem when answering calls

Hi, Everyone. I am using an iphone 4s. With the update to ios 7 I find
that when I answer a call the speaker activates even though I have the
phone to my ear. It takes a few seconds for the ear piece to kick in.
This appears to be a bug with io 7. Is there a way to fix this?
Thank you.
Regards,
Martin Nelson

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Re: problem when answering calls

2013-09-28 Thread Troy Sullivan
I've even had people thinking I'm hanging up on them because they hear a 
click while it's switching over.
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From: CD cd5...@q.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 11:14 AM
Subject: RE: problem when answering calls



I have a horrible time answering calls with the speaker sensor since
upgrading.  So I believe it has somethig to do with the 4s having a slower
reaction.  I've seen the 5s and it is much more stable and I can't wait
until May when I can upgrade to the 5s.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of John Diakogeorgiou
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 8:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: problem when answering calls

I don't think its an accessability  issue. I've never seen this problem on 
a

4, 5 or 5s.

On 9/26/13, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

I did have this happening a bit in iOS 6 with my 4S and it can be
hardware related since there is a proximity sensor in the phone.
However, it might be a bit worse in iOS 7 although there haven't been
many people reporting this from what I have seen. Anyhow, there is
nothing you can really do except that you can of course avoid it by
using a headset or I guess you could turn Voiceover off with a triple
click home before you pick up the call, but then of course using a
2-finger double tap wouldn't work to pick up the call and the triple
click home to turn off Voiceover doesn't work after you pick it up.
On my 4S I find that it often happens right at the beginning of the
call and after a few seconds it sort of settles down. I have a 5S on
the way and hopefully it won't be an issue with it.

I would report it to Apple Accessibility if you are sure this never
happened before you upgraded. In fact, if you agree with the way I
feel, I would probably suggest that they take this automatic switching
out of Voiceover completely. It's easy enough for example in apps like
Skype to switch to speakerphone by tapping on the Speakerphone button
and I don't see why we can't do this like anybody else with the
regular Phone app. I am sure Apple thought they want to make this easy
for a blind person so they don't have to find the Speakerphone button,
but if anything they could implement a Shake to Switch feature or
maybe a custom gesture would be possible, like drawing an S: during
a call would toggle speakerphone.
.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Martin Nelson
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 7:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: problem when answering calls

Hi, Everyone. I am using an iphone 4s. With the update to ios 7 I find
that when I answer a call the speaker activates even though I have the
phone to my ear. It takes a few seconds for the ear piece to kick in.
This appears to be a bug with io 7. Is there a way to fix this?
Thank you.
Regards,
Martin Nelson

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Re: Automated Phone System Improvement

2013-09-28 Thread Troy Sullivan
I just did the same thing with my 4s, and yes I think I can actually use one 
of these now without a headset. I'll experiment with this as I make more and 
more calls that have an IVR.
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Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 8:08 AM
Subject: Automated Phone System Improvement


I just contacted Verizon's automated system using the iPhone 5S.  One can 
now hear the numbers spoken clearly when accessing the automated menu 
system.  I'm hopeful this means that a headset will no longer be required to 
deal with these systems.  If that's the case, then this is a major step 
forward.  I can understand the numbers as well as I can when making an 
actual call.


Les

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Re: iphone 5s speaker distortion

2013-09-26 Thread Troy Sullivan

could it be you don't have the hq voice downloaded?
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From: Penny Golden gold...@frontiernet.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: iphone 5s speaker distortion




I find the speaking voice is a little distorted, but I've never had 
distorted music.


On 9/26/2013 4:33 PM, PHILLIP TRACY wrote:
yes, this is a very common problem. Also, there is a bug in the voiceover 
volume in the rotor. If you turn it too far down, you will not be able to 
turn it back up. Be careful.


Phillip Tracy
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 25, 2013, at 9:18 PM, Penny Goldengold...@frontiernet.net 
wrote:



I have distortion with the speaking voice on my iPod touch.  i never had 
this before iOs 7. Till i can change it, I'll just have to turn things 
down.




On 9/25/2013 8:20 PM, paras shah wrote:
As some of you may know, some people are having speaker distortion on
the iPhone 5s and 5c.
Have any of you  had the distortion?
This occurs when the speaker is turned up to full volume or when
playing a song at full volume.
Voice over is distorted.
I am asking because I am considering a iPhone 5s.
Thanks

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Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.

2013-09-26 Thread Troy Sullivan
I'm the only one in my family that has a 4s, the rest have 4, and ios7 is 
working fine on their 4 phones as far as I know.
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From: Gadget Girl geek.gadgetg...@gmail.com

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Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: Apple now forcing iOS 6 holdouts to upgrade to iOS 7.


Hi.  I spent some time with an ATT representative debating on whether to 
upgrade my for S to the iOS seven operating system.  The representative 
said, in all honesty, it will run fine on an iPhone 4S but not on the iPhone 
4.


Regards,
Anita
also known as Gadget Girl.  Sent via my Apple gadget.  Apple, Take a bite, 
Express yourself!


On Sep 26, 2013, at 11:15 AM, Daniel Miller miller...@gmail.com wrote:


Hello,

For those of you who want/need to stay on iOS 6 for whatever reason, I 
come with some bad news.
According to an article I’ll link to below, Apple is pushing the OTA 
update to 7 automatically to devices that don’t have 7 installed yet, with 
no user consent, and no way to reclaim the lost storage space the update 
uses when downloaded.

http://appadvice.com/appnn/2013/09/apple-is-automatically-pushing-out-ios-7-to-holdout-devices

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how to clear already downloaded apps?

2013-09-26 Thread Troy Sullivan
How do I clear apps from the updates that I've already downloaded?

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Re: Siri Issue

2013-09-25 Thread Troy Sullivan
I had this issue right after upgrading, a reboot of the phone fixed this. It 
could be server related.
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From: Penny Golden gold...@frontiernet.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: Siri Issue




This no-service  reading I never get unless for some reason, the device 
is no longer online.
Thost try again later things only happen when I am off-line for some 
reason.  Could your trouble be something else, perhaps?


On 9/25/2013 4:02 PM, SSEric wrote:
I wonder how many of the 9 million iPhones sold our new customers. They 
all must be trying out Siri, because quite often I am getting no service.




Eric

(typos, etc. result from dictation and poor editing. Thanks for your 
indulgence.)


On Sep 25, 2013, at 4:34 PM, Chris Hchristopher...@gmail.com  wrote:

Check the siri language it should use your native language. That's my 
guess anyway. Settings general siri language. Any siri users out here 
have any ideas?



On 25/09/2013 16:13, CD wrote:
Since upgrading to 7 I can hardly get Siri to understand me or work! 
Before
the upgrade I could get results every time.  Anyone havine this issue? 
Any

fixes?  Thanks!



Carla


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making phonecalls wasRe: Siri question.

2013-09-25 Thread Troy Sullivan
Has anyone had trouble making calls with cerie? She will say calling so and so 
but the call never goes through, However I will have her call the number again 
and it's fine. Using ios7
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  From: Penny Golden 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 5:20 PM
  Subject: Re: Siri question.



  on the other hand, my siri only now answers instead of repeating the question.
  My old siri used to say: you saidd, and then she'd act like telephone, the 
game the kids play, because she (or now he) apparently does not believe that I 
speak clearly enough.

  On 9/25/2013 4:15 PM, Fred Olver wrote: 
When I dictate a message for Siri, she repeats it twice. Any way to get it 
only said once? 

Fred Olver 

 

Author of Dealing with Vision Loss  

 

have a look it just makes sense. 

http://www.dealingwithvisionloss.com 

 

 


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Re: iPhone 4s and face detection

2013-09-25 Thread Troy Sullivan

I have a 4s, rarely I got it to work even when I had ios6.
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Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 3:14 PM
Subject: iPhone 4s and face detection



Good evening all.
With the improved camera in the iPhone 4s, is face detection working for 
you? I personally never got it to work on my iPhone 4 despite trying 
several times all to no avail, both with and without lighting etc.

Just curious.
Any responses greatly appreciated. Thanks!

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Re: Dictating without the dictation button -- how to do it?

2013-09-22 Thread Troy Sullivan
I have too noticed this, like for example if I am leaving a voicemail, 
sometimes the 2 finger doubletap would take so long to respond that 
sometimes the voicemail wouldn't go through because it would take me to the 
options screen and sometimes people wouldn't get my voicemails, now it hangs 
up right away and answers right away too, I like that.
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From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 11:09 AM
Subject: RE: Dictating without the dictation button -- how to do it?



Hi Kimber,

The Dictate button is still there on my 4S where is always has been, just 
to

the left of the spacebar when the virtual keyboard is visible.
If you touch an edit field and hear Voiceover saying, for example, 
Search

field, is editing, character mode, do a 2-finger double tap at this point
and you should hear the tone to indicate that Dictation is listening.
When you are done speaking do a 2-finger double tap again to stop 
dictation

and insert the text.

I find the increased screen sensitivity has it's bad moments, but one 
thing

I find is that using the 2-finger double tap to start and stop dictation
when I'm in an edit field or also to answer and hang up calls is a lot 
more

reliable for me and somehow seems to be faster and more snappy.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kimber Gardner
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 3:56 AM
To: viphone
Subject: Dictating without the dictation button -- how to do it?

Hi All,

I used to use dictation all the time in ios6. But now with ios7 there
is no dictation button. I read a blog post that described how to do it
and they made it sound like the greatest advancement ever, but I just
can't get the hang of it. My phone never goes into dictation mode no
matter what I do. I usually just end up moving the cursor or playing
music or whatever.

Can anyone give me a sep by sep description of how to get dictation going
again?

Thanks,
Kimber

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Re: Battery Consumption in IOS

2013-09-22 Thread Troy Sullivan
I have not noticed any battery issues in ios7, just your normal stuff will 
drain it, like playing music, talking on the phone, brightness, etc.
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From: Les Kriegler kriegle...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 22, 2013 10:25 AM
Subject: Battery Consumption in IOS


I don't know if this is specific to IOS7, hence my subject line did not 
reference IOS7 specifically.  I am running IOS 7 on the 5S.  I thought my 
battery was draining much faster than it should.  I made all the settings 
adjustments recommended including the brightness setting at 0.  I checked 
this morning and the brightness setting showed at 29%.  I didn't adjust this 
setting.  But I think the culprit here is the Auto Brightness setting which 
is on by default.  A program must have been running which altered the 
brightness level based on Auto Brightness being on.  I toggled that setting 
to Off, and thus far, brightness remains at 0%.  My phone has been locked 
for about 2 hours, and the battery level has not dropped, so perhaps I'll 
get better battery life now.  Hope this is helpful info.


Les

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Re: my upgrade to IOS version seven

2013-09-21 Thread Troy Sullivan
Go to settings, general and swipe right until you hear passcode on, double 
tap to turn it off, it may give you a warning just say ok.
- Original Message - 
From: Casey cwoll...@wi.rr.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 10:33 AM
Subject: my upgrade to IOS version seven



Hi okay so far my iPhone is working sell with the new upgrade.
But what I would like to know is.
Now when I unlock my phone I need to enter A 4 digit pass code.
Well I can do this but what if I would just like to unlock my phone with 
out A 4 digit pass code?
I really don't feel like having my phone totally reset where I have to go 
and get my apps and contacts and all again.

And then going to have to re down load version again.
And then reset ut everything again.
So can you disable this a different way or is that the only way?
Before I upgraded I backed my phone up to the cloud so I do have A back up 
the way my phone was before I installed the new upgrade.
So if you can't disable this then I guess I will just have to live with 
it.

It kind of makes it handy if you phone every gets stolen.
Then if they don't have your pass code well just one more thing to make 
the phone unusable for the person that stool it.

Well any and all assistance is welcome with this.


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Re: Question which I already made probably know the answer to, regarding reverting back iOS.

2013-09-21 Thread Troy Sullivan
The only way I would know of and you probably don't want to do this is 
restore your phone to factory settings.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: Question which I already made probably know the answer to, 
regarding reverting back iOS.




I think there is if you're quick;  but JessicaB knows, I don't;  sorry.

Rh.
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From: Jenifer Barr claudas...@gmail.com

To: iPhone List viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 2:38 PM
Subject: Question which I already made probably know the answer to,
regarding reverting back iOS.


Hi oh.
I think I may already know the answer to this question, but just thought 
I'd

check. There is not a way to switch from iOS 7 back to iOS 6, is there?
There are just too many things that I do not like about iOS 7. I 
appreciate

your response.

Jenifer Barr
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Re: Dont recommend updating to IOS 7

2013-09-21 Thread Troy Sullivan
When I updated my apps last night, tap tap see was one of them, not sure if 
it's the one with the corrected bug fixes, but I'd imagine it would be, 
however I have been using tap tap see and not noticing the issues mentioned 
on this list after I updated to ios7.
- Original Message - 
From: Chris Chaffin cchaf...@twcny.rr.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 1:53 AM
Subject: Re: Dont recommend updating to IOS 7




I am looking forward to updating to iOS 7, but I have just waited because 
some of the apps I use on a daily basis, like Tap Tap See, is currently 
not properly working.
I just decided to have a little patience, and wait a few days before 
updating.


Chris Chaffin

-Original Message- 
From: Margaret Booth

Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 1:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Dont recommend updating to IOS 7

I upgraded my iPhone 5 to IOS7 yesterday afternoon and I'm finding IOS7 
great. I'm not having any problems with it at all. I can understand your 
concerns.


Margaret

On 20/09/2013, at 1:20 AM, James Lockwood wrote:

personally, i do not recommend updating to IOS7. i did on my iphone 5 and 
here is what i dislike about it. i know some may disagree and that is 
fine. sometimes people attack you when you dare criticize the GREAT 
APPLE!


problems i have in IOS7
1. slower. i have noticed on my iphone 5 voice over seems to run slower. 
it seems to be more sluggish on speech and flicking through applications. 
the phone also takes a half or more of a second to lock when i click the 
lock button.


2. voice over sounds are different. on the ipad voice over, voice over 
would always make a sound when you flick from different frames or areas 
on the page. for example, if you are on an ipad and in the messages 
application, try flicking from the message display area down into the 
text message box where you type new messages. you do this by flicking 
right. on the ipad voice over always made a unique noice indicating that 
you have gone into a new area of the screen. the iphone voice over never 
did this. well, on the new IOS 7 it now does. this annoying


3. the side switch no longer silences flicking sounds. on IOS 6 the 
switch above the volume buttons would silence the clicks made on voice 
over when one flicks left or right. on the new IOS7 this switch has no 
effect on the special clicks and noises associated with voice over.


4. voice over looses focus. i have noticed, and perhaps it is just me, 
that voice over sometimes looses focus on where you were last on the 
screen. it is difficult to explain and perhaps i am the only one who has 
this problem. but, sometimes when i am flicking right down a page, voice 
over appears to jump back to the top or loose focus in some other manner. 
voice over was always completely stable in IOS6 and i never had this 
problem. nor did i ever have voice over read previously read aloud text 
at the wrong time when such text was not being selected and should not 
have been read. again, difficult to explain. but, i do not believe voice 
over is as stable as it used to be


5. finally, i dont see any real feature enhancements. without any real 
enhancements i wouldnt update. just my recommendation



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is this new in ios7?

2013-09-21 Thread Troy Sullivan
Hi,
I noticed when I updated to ios7 any music I've purchased through ITunes I can 
play on my phone, is this new? When I go to music there's a download button by 
each song so I'm asuming these songs aren't on my phone, since they are on my 
apple account is this the reason why I can still play them? I didn't seem to be 
able to do this in previous versions.

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Re: More on iOS seven

2013-09-21 Thread Troy Sullivan
Also don't forget to write apple accessibility about your issues, that is 
the only way they'll know. Let's look at it this way, we could be paying a 
good bit of money for a screen reader for our IPhones just like non apple 
smart phones, personally I don't want to do that and even with the bugs I 
still think voiceover is the most stable.
- Original Message - 
From: Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: More on iOS seven


Hi Pablo, you are certainly entitled to being frustrated and to demand 
that Apple make everything work perfectly. However I seem to recall that 
you sent this list a ton of messages about how you didn't want to upgrade 
to iOS 6 because of bugs. Then you upgraded to iOS 6 and you kept asking 
the list how to revert back to iOS 5. Now it seems you are doing the same 
with iOS 7 in wanting to go back to iOS 6. I just don't get it. If you 
don't want to risk the new bugs introduced with a new iOS, then wait like 
you did with iOS 6 until a newer iOS 7, maybe iOS 7.01 or something is 
out.


Just a friendly suggestion.

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On 9/21/2013 3:59 PM, Pablo Morales wrote:

should be a way to crak that locked that apple did with the downgrades.
I don't know, I don't see it fir. I pay a device, so if they provide a
upgrade, an operated system, that doesn't work for me, but the previous
operated system that my device worked well. Why is fir that apple
doesn't allow me to go back to the operated system that was working for
me when I bought the device?
I would like to ask to my lawyer is it is legal, or what kind of law
frame work can I use to improve it for the customers. Customers that
are buying a product that the upgrades reduce the functionality of what
ever they bought.

- Original Message - From: James Lockwood 
lockwoo...@gmail.com

To: iphone group viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 4:38 PM
Subject: More on iOS seven


Earlier I posted that you could revert back to iOS 6. Unfortunately
Apple has blocked that ability now. You were able to revert when iOS
seven beta was out. But with the public release of iOS 7 you can't.
Apple operating system is still the most accessible application on the
market. But there are definite bugs in it compared to iOS 6. Why Apple
doesn't put voice over features through a more rigorous testing process
I don't know. But here are a compilation of the problems I have
experienced thus far.



Many have discussed the jerkiness of voiceover. IT will have experienced
this. I have an iPhone five and iOS seven. To be more specific it occurs
when typing in Twitter or typing messages. I will be typing a message
and flick up or down one time to go past a word. Sometimes voice over
will then we verse my motion. Instead of being at the end of the word as
I intended suddenly I am at the beginning of the word. I'm a fairly
educated individual having a doctorate degree. So it is not due to me
accidentally touching the screen or anything on my part. It is a flaw in
the software at least on my phone. Another example of a voice over error
occurs in the Twitter application Twitterrific. Sometimes it will read a
tweet again and again and again until I swipe left or right to move up
or down the list of tweets. This I could be a problem with the Twitter
application itself. However I have the most up-to-date version

Most annoying problem I experience is regarding voice over when I am
playing music or audio and the phone is locked. It occurs when I play
audiobooks or music. Voice over will suddenly say screen locked. It will
occur randomly and continuously. It usually occurs every 1 1/2 to 2
minutes. Is a software glitch for sure. Sometimes I am able to prevent
it from having this error if after locking the phone I disabled then
reenable voice over.

Other then a new look which doesn't appeal to me considering I'm blind
and iTunes radio which I myself don't use there aren't many new features
that I personally use. But as I said it is the most stable application
on the market. I'm surprised that Google doesn't make their software
accessible It is quite a shame considering they are designing driverless
cars.

I am considering purchasing an iPhone 5 S and if I do I will update the
list as to whether I experience any of these same difficulties.

https://Twitter.com/JimLockwoodShow

Http://www.jimlockwoodshow.com



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Re: I think Siri may be down

2013-09-21 Thread Troy Sullivan

Yeah sometimes she doesn't respond, rebooting the phone fixes this for me.
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From: Wren Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 12:46 PM
Subject: I think Siri may be down


Heil, I was just reading about how to adjust series volume. I went there 
to try, and Siri is not talking to me at all. I think she may be down, 
just wanted to let you all know. God bless, Wren


Sent from my iPhone

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Re: A Pandora question.

2013-09-20 Thread Troy Sullivan
I upgraded to the paid version hoping that it would let me skip an unlimited 
amount of songs, it seems though that the paid version only does away with 
the advertisements, I was disappointed.
- Original Message - 
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: A Pandora question.


I've only ever used the free version of Pandora, so I don't know how it 
compares to the paid version, but you are only allowed to skip so many 
songs in the free version of Pandora every hour. I know you also get a 
lower bit rate in the free version over the paid version. I don't think it 
effects how many stations you can have. I have around eight in the free 
version as well.


On 09/20/2013 04:09 PM, Liz and Sammie wrote:

Now that ITunes Radio is here, I canceled my paid subscription to
Pandora, but I still want to use the free version.  Besides having no
advertisements in the paid version of Pandora what is the difference
between the free version and the paid version?  I have about  8 stations
in Pandora.  Will downgrading to the free version give me less stations?
Liz Ulrich and Leader Dog Sammie
Westwood Church of God Internet Prayer Chain Coordinator

HTTP://WWW.FACEBOOK.COM/ELIZABETH.ULRICH.1




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ear sensor wasRe: screen hypersensitivity with IOS7

2013-09-20 Thread Troy Sullivan
Someone had mentioned about the ear sensor being sensative as well, I have 
found the same problem, I'm sure if it hasn't already someone has emailed 
apple about it.
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From: Mich mi...@eastlink.ca

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 3:43 PM
Subject: Re: screen hypersensitivity with IOS7


Hi I to have found this and I have the reduce moashen on and still I find 
it verry sencitive.I am also using a iphone 4s. from Mich.
- Original Message - 
From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 10:32 AM
Subject: RE: screen hypersensitivity with IOS7



Have you tried what some already suggested which is to go to Settings,
General, Accessibility and turn on Reduce Motion?

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Kevin Barry
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 3:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: screen hypersensitivity with IOS7


I can report that I also am experiencing the problem
with VO assuming a touch when I get close to, but do not touch, the 
screen.

I'm using a 4s.

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Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS voices

2013-09-20 Thread Troy Sullivan
Anyone know why apple did not have the hq voice already defaulted like in 
previous versions?
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From: Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net

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Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: Explanation to all of you who are confused about the iOS 7 TTS 
voices



I don't like any of the compact voices, they sound like they are trapped in 
a box. Higher quality voices take up more space of course, but it's worth 
it, hands down.

Original message:

Thank you for sharing. I absolutely cannot stand the compact British
English voice. Sounds like Daniel with well I don't know, cinucitis
maybe! Lol! But the one compact voice I do like is Irish English. Not
really tried the Australian and U.S. English voices yet in compact mode.



On 20/09/2013 00:22, Adi Kushnir wrote:

Hi all,


As one who uses the new Nuance Vocalizer Expressive voices to develop 
with
them for other platforms, I wanna to explain to you all, what are the 
iOS 7

voices and which of them are being used when.



So, let's start from sirie:



The new and better Sirie voices are not Vocalizer Expressive voices.


These are custom voices that Nuance or some other company makes a 
specially
for Apple, I think it's Nuance because Apple always works with them on 
TTS

related stuff.





Now, let's move on to VoiceOver:



In iOS 6, Apple used the Nuance Vocalizer for automotive version 5.5
platform for it's screen reader and Sirie.


Since Nuance stopped supporting and developing Vocalizer for Automotive, 
and
released Vocalizer Expressive, in iOS 7, Apple has swiched to using 
these

voices for VoiceOver.


Most of them sound the same as the previous generation of Vocalizer, 
such as

Samantha Premium for example, they just read longer texts better.



The Vocalizer Expressive platform contains some new and very expressive
voices, but Apple decided to use the ones that wer already available,
because they are still offerd with Vocalizer Expressive, or VE for 
short.


Some other facts that thanks to them you can know it's the new 
Expressive
version, are the bad compact voices, a specially Daniel, and the new 
voices
for some languages such as Arabic, they have replaced Maged with Tarik 
for

this language because Nuance doesn't offer Maged any more.


Vocalizer Expressive has a Hebrew voice as well, so I hope Apple will 
add it

soon too:) (Smile).





Hope now you understand it better..





Adi.




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Re: downloading the bard ap

2013-09-20 Thread Troy Sullivan

I just simply pressed my dictate button and said bard mobile and voyla!
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From: Teresa Christian synergydra...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 5:57 PM
Subject: Re: downloading the bard ap


Yes, I have had lots of trouble trying to find the BARD app. I wrote
tech support and this is what I got back.


Hello,

If you're still having trouble finding the BARD app in the App Store,
try searching for either bardmobile or nls.

Dan
NLS BARD Technical Support
e-mail: nlsdownl...@loc.gov


On 9/20/13, Sean Paul newsandtraf...@aol.com wrote:

Heres the link which will get it done.
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/bard-mobile/id705229586?mt=8
- Original Message -
From: Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 17:38
Subject: Re: downloading the bard ap



Make sure you double tap on the search button on the virtual keyboard. I
didn't have it show up in my search completion list.

On 09/20/2013 04:35 PM, DJ Reese wrote:

Type bardmobile without any spaces.  Hope this helps!

DJ Reese

- Original Message - Has anyone else had difficulty locating the
bard ap in the ap store?  Every
time I type in bard nls it says search cannot be found.  I have also
tried
typing bard mobile and national library service, but with the same
results.



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searching for a book wasRe: Bard Mobile is out

2013-09-20 Thread Troy Sullivan

Is there a search feature? I can't seem to find one.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: Stacey Robinson stacey...@bellsouth.net
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 1:02 PM
Subject: Re: Bard Mobile is out


Thanks Stacey and anybody else who answered my question.  Just to make
sure, is it necessarey to turn bard mobile on or keep it off, not sure
if it means anything.
I am proud to say though that I did down load two books, one to my phone
and one to my ipad.
Patti
On 9/20/2013 12:11 PM, Stacey Robinson wrote:

Patti,
It will say download complete and give an ok button to press.
Blessings,
Stacey Robinson and GEB dog Gemini
mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net

On Sep 20, 2013, at 10:35 AM, Patti Johnson wrote:

I just downloaded a book and it says downloading.  How do I know whaen 
it's done will it say something, then I ha ve to go get it from my wish 
list?

Just making usre I ha ve all this straight.
I got a long book I wonder if I should have picked a short one.
Maybe it will be okay.
PattiOn 9/20/2013 11:33 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
Yes, you can do all of this from within the app. While browsing and 
searching for books, you can't directly download them, but you can add 
them to your wish list while browsing and then download them from your 
wish list. this is not unlike going to the BARD site with Safari and 
then adding your books to your wish list. this is obviously a bit nicer 
though, since it's all done from within your BARD app itself.wish


On 09/20/2013 07:11 AM, Andy Baracco wrote:

Can you do all of this from within the app? I have read and heard both
yes and no, and am a bit confused.

Andy


-Original Message- From: Bob Hill
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 2:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Bard Mobile is out

Hi all,

I just installed the BARD app, and was happily downloading books from
the recently added page, and also searching for an author, and adding 
to

the wish list, then downloading those titles.
No hiccups yet with either downloading or reading.!

Bob Hill


- Original Message -
From: Peter Logan pdlloga...@gmail.com
To:  viphone@googlegroups.com
CC:
Date: Friday, September 20, 2013 3:24 am
Subject: Re: Bard Mobile is out



Got it ...  looks like they did an excellent job.  Within a few clicks
had a book and was reading...''Excellent job NLS!

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 19, 2013, at 11:24 PM, Chuck Dean chuckd...@icloud.com wrote:

Here is a link to the BARD Mobile app:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/bard-mobile/id705229586?mt=8

Chuck



On Thursday, September 19, 2013 7:45:29 PM UTC-7, Joseph FreeTech 
wrote:

Hi all,

Just thought I'd let you know the Bard Mobile app is out. I found it
on my
iPod touch and will track down via browser.

BARD mobile
Library of congress

Joseph

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Got it ...  looks like they did an excellent job.  Within a few clicks
had a book and was reading...''Excellent job NLS!

Sent from my iPhone

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Here is a link to the BARD Mobile app:


https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/bard-mobile/id705229586?mt=8


Chuck




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Just thought I'd let you know the Bard Mobile app is out. I found it
on my
iPod touch and will track down via browser.

Re: IOS7.01 is out

2013-09-20 Thread Troy Sullivan
I would hope anything regarding accessibility bug fixes that apple would 
roll an update out to all of the phones that are able to run ios7 like my 
IPhone 4s.
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From: Shane clark hshanecl...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: IOS7.01 is out


Really... Please keep us in mind and let us know of any and all bug fixes 
as I've haven't upgraded yet.


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 20, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Myrna Votta myrnavo...@gmail.com wrote:

I thought someone would have put this on the list, but, I guess that none 
of
you have seen it as yet.  I just received my new iPhone this morning, 
after

standing on line at the local Verizon store for about an hour and a half.
Surprise1  When I got it home and began to tweak some settings, I 
received a

message that there was a software update.  7.01.  When I looked at the
details, the message was that there were bug fixes.  I really haven't
noticed anything different as yet.  I had updated my iPad mini on 
Wednesday
to 7.0, but, I have only played around with it for a short period of 
time.

So, probably, that's why I haven't noticed anything as yet.

Myrna


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Re: IOS7, various frustrating difficulties

2013-09-20 Thread Troy Sullivan
I turned on reduce motion and this fixes my issues for me, hope this helps 
someone else.
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From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com

To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: IOS7, various frustrating difficulties


Hi,

Why would it be impossible when many Android devices add the ability to 
change the sensitivity of the touch screens?  That being said, I think it is 
very possible.  I think more than sensitivity, this might be some random VO 
focus issues.  The first thing I would try is restarting my device, and 
turning on reduced motion in settings/general/accessibility.


Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Sep 20, 2013, at 9:53 AM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:

First, it is impossible to increase the sensitivity of the touchscreen. 
What Apple has done is made VO more responsive more rapidly to the touch.


When you are typing, holding a letter for  than a second first causes VO 
to say selected because passthrough has been activated. Now, you can slide 
your finger around the keyboard to get various types of alternate symbols 
for the symbol in question. If you do not slide your finger at all, but 
instead, lift your finger straight up from the keyboard, the original 
symbol you were touching will be used. Getting different symbols means you 
are moving your finger before lifting it from the keyboard.


Apple appears to have shortened the time between when the screen is 
initially touched and when mode shifts to tracking your finger rather than 
interpreting your command gesture. The time used to be half a second. I am 
guessing the time is now about a fourth of a second, but I do not have an 
assistant to help me time it. This shorter time is causing your editing to 
get confused because you are used to having more time to start your 
command gesture movement after touching the screen. If you start movements 
before touching the screen, you will bypass most of the difficulties you 
are experiencing.



David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone


On 21 Sep 2013, at 0:14, Carol carol.pearso...@googlemail.com wrote:

Hi all,

First, I love some things in IOS7 and think Apple have done a good job in 
many areas.  However, so far as us VI's are concerned, it seems that 
there are some definite difficulties and pitfalls and I'm feeling a bit 
frustrated with these.


First, for me at least the 4S is in some ways quite snappy and, in 
others, just not quite snappy enough ...  Then, I'm a bit disappointed as 
the UK English voice just doesn't sound quite right, even on its higher 
setting and awful on its compact setting.  Since we listen to speech most 
of the time, these voices really need to be very good!


However, my main frustration right now is being unable to perform general 
editing techniques nearly as well or as quickly as in IOS6.  This is 
because of the more sensitive touch, which can create random incorrect 
letters.  This would even be OK if, when editing and working through word 
by wor and letter by letter, the voices were really tiptop and selecting 
was better than it is at present.  I find I can no longer select and 
delete quantities of text as before because so often the cursor jumps 
about (often putting me at the top of a message when I was editing 
further down)  (or the pinch method just doesn't work at all.


Finally, I am finding the dictation when using Siri, less accurate than 
before and I was looking forward to seeing some leaps forward in this 
area.


M-Braille is definitely my best bet here right now for writing but I 
still have a need to utilise these other skills when I need to get things 
done quickly and corretly.


The matter which brought this in focus for me was when I was trying to 
text a quick message into which I needed to place some numeric and 
punctuation signs.  I found that, when in touch typing mode, it was just 
too easy to slide a finger and find that a character was selected and 
then extra characters were available to me, but they just got inserted 
every time I slid my finger around - so a real mess! I did try to edit 
using standard typing and this was a little better, but I don't want to 
use this as I find it generally much quicker to use the touch typing 
method.


I'd love some of you to try out texting, including the characters that 
are available in the Numbersoption, and see what you think!


For now, I'm taking a break and a cuppa!

Carol P
Sent from the Mac

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Re: Inaccurate Reporting of Apps Store Upgrades During Release Crush was RE: app store issue

2013-09-20 Thread Troy Sullivan
I am still having this issue, Whenever I go to the app store it will say I 
have 19 items, so I will go to updates, and nothing is there not even 
anything telling me that all my apps are up to date, then I tried searching 
for something and downloading it thinking maybe the app store wasn't 
working, and it did say could not connect to app store, so I rebooted my 
phone and it will let me download apps now but not update existing ones 
still, maybe I will try it on a non busy part of the day to see what that 
will do.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 4:00 PM
Subject: RE: Inaccurate Reporting of Apps Store Upgrades During Release 
Crush was RE: app store issue



As I had written last evening, just about the same thing happened to me. 
I

thought that that it was due to having clicked on not now, when I was
given the choice to automatically update all apps.  Well, this morning, 
when

I powered on my iPad and went to the app store, I was presented with about
15 or so apps that could be updated.  I did update all of them.  I then
began to think that, as you said, it must have been a server issue 
yesterday

that was causing all of this strange behavior.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 1:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Inaccurate Reporting of Apps Store Upgrades During Release Crush
was RE: app store issue

During most of yesterday, my Apps Store badge with the number of upgrades
went from 44 to nothing even though I had not upgraded anything. When I
opened the Apps Store, I was told all apps were updated. This strange
behavior apparently had something to do with the server crush related to 
the

release of iOS 7. Today my Apps Store badge once again says 44 updates
available.

I've found patience and a wait and see attitude work much better for me as
far as new computer and phone operating systems are concerned.

Alan Lemly

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Scott Duck
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 8:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: app store issue

Hi,
I had the same issue.  The badge said 7 updates but, when I opened the app
store and went to the updates tab, it showed no updates.  I checked and my
automatic updates is turned off so it should not have automatically done 
the

updates.  Strange.
Thanks,
Scott Duck


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Salman Haider
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 10:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: app store issue

I had the same problem myself. I cspecifically held off on the updates for
the Kindle app as well as the YouPlayer app since I wanted to check and
confirm whether any accessibility-related bugs had come up as a result of
the updates. The badge for my App Store said 2 new items, and when I 
opened

the App Store, the Updates tab first said 5 updates, then switched to no
updates at all.
Now the screen says all apps are up to date.
Probably an App Store glitch?

On 9/18/13, John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com wrote:

I saw the same problem earlier today. I think it's just that the
servers are bogged down.

On 9/18/13, Troy Sullivan troysulliva...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi again,
This relates to my previous post about not being able to update to
ios7, the ap store says I have some new items but yet when I go into
updates it says all my apps are up to date. I know for a fact I have
updates because I did not update Iheart radio do to the accessibility
issue.
Anyone know what's going on?

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