from:"Will"

Hi Richard,

Thank you for this!
I like the idea of the handle bars too.
I will definitely check this out, as I would also like to know about the basic 
start up, and that is all I probably would need.

If I find out anything, I will let you know.

Again thank you,

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 8:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

I’ve reviewed Amazon listings. Here’s one that looks interesting to me:

  *   Maksone Folding Walking Pad, Wood Under Desk Treadmill with Adjustable 
Handlebar, Foldable Treadmill with Remote Control - Maximum Horsepower - 3 
Horsepower

I like it that this unit has a handlebar. It’s unclear if the controls require 
vision for basic operation.

Richard Petty
richard.pe...@earthlink.net




From: M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Hello Everyone,

With regard to walking pads, I have not yet purchased one.

I plan on doing so, this week.  I am still searching so if you have discovered 
a model that you find interesting, let us know.

One thing I will insist on is that my unit must have, at least, 2.5  horse 
power.  Anything less than 2.5 will simply not last long enough, based on how I 
intend to use the unit.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Many people install these under desks and walk while working or doing other 
tasks. Having it under the desk means you can pull it out slightly to use, but 
you still can touch the desk while walking to stay oriented.
Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com
Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.

On Jun 1, 2024, at 11:08 PM, Richard 
mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net>> wrote:
Good question.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of James 
Bentley
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

If these walking pads do not have a hand rail, how do you manage to stay on the 
pad?

James B


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Mark and all,

I found several walking pads on Amazon. The better options I found were priced 
from $200 and up to About $380. They all could be stored under a bed and one 
producer claimed their pad could be stored under a sofa. A couple had 
adjustable incline features.

A question for Mark and anyone else who might know. Even though those that send 
data to a  smart phone tracking app are at  a higher price point, are there any 
that are relatively easy to operate without vision? One walking pad used a 
remote control. I'm not sure about others.

I'm interested in a walking pad after learning about them from Mark, so will 
appreciate any help about their accessibility..


Richard Petty
richard.pe...@earthlink.net




-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 3:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions

Hello All,

1.
Well, I recently returned from a short vacation and during the trip, for the 
first time, I made extensive use of Air Tags.  I was delighted to discover that 
they work remarkably well.  However, to me, it seemed, that using the Find My 
app, with the Left Behind notification feature enabled, drain my battery a 
little faster than expected.  I don't know if this is exactly true because, 
during the journey, I did take more photos than normal and my screen brightness 
was set to a higher level in order for me to be able to see the phone's 
display, out in the sunlight.

2.
Someone, on list, suggested that she could not add a television series to her 
recorded list in Youtube TV for TVOS.  I just tested this feature on my Apple 
TV, and found that the feature functions as expected, when VoiceOver is enabled.

3.
One of the latest trends in home exercise is using a walking pad.
Essentially, a

RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

James,

You’re welcome.

It isn’t my cup of tea either.
Although, if I wouldn’t need to buy a standing desk, or if the walking pad had 
handles, I would give it some serious thought though.


Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of James 
Bentley
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 7:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Thanks for looking all of this stuff up.
I do not want a new desk because I like my current desk.  So, this walking pad 
with no handles isn’t my cup of tea.
Thanks again for the information.

James B


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 5:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

James,

Here is some information I Googled about the standing desks, just to give you 
an idea.
I also seen some information about mini steppers, in which is the mini version 
of a master stepper, as well as the walking pads.

A standing desk, also known as a stand-up desk or height-adjustable desk, is a 
piece of office furniture that allows you to stand while working. Standing 
desks can be fixed in place, only adjustable a few inches, or adjustable to 
seated height. Some standing desks are designed to keep you active while 
working, such as treadmill or elliptical desks. You can also convert a 
traditional desk into a standing desk by adding a desk riser, which raises your 
monitor or laptop to eye level.
Standing Desks: Everything You Need to Know
Dec 1, 2016 — and then there's the adjustable height standing desk the fixed 
standing desk or rig is any setup that allows a person to stand or be upright. 
but doesn't give them the option to sit down. along with a traditional standing 
desk this category also includes some desks that were designed to keep you 
active while you work including the treadmill desk and even elliptical desks 
besides the full desks there are also rigs that let you raise your computer and 
monitors to standing height. this type of desk is kind of an easy DIY. project. 
it's not so hard to make there are also dozens of commercially available 
options in the marketplace. today. but in just a minute I'm going to explain 
why this isn't the type I would necessarily recommend. for standing at work. 
next up our risers. risers. are in addition to your existing desk they give you 
the option to quickly go from sitting to standing or vice versa.

Evolution of Standing Desks
Standing desks may seem like the hot new thing, but they're really not new. 
Also known as a stand-up desk or a height-adjustable desk, this office mainstay 
has definitely gained popularity in recent years as a way to improve health and 
productivity in the workplace. But the concept of standing while working is not 
a new one. In fact, the history of standing desks dates back hundreds of years.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of James 
Bentley
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 5:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

The entire concept sounds half baked and actually dangerous to me.

James B


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 5:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Hi James and All,
Maybe if we stay close to a wall, we can reach out our hand to feel the wall 
just to be for sure where we are.
That is all I can think of right now, and I’m not sure if that is right or not.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of James 
Bentley
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 4:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

I’m still trying to figure out how you stay on the pad while walking or jogging 
if there are not any handles.

James B


From: M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Hello Everyone,

With regard to walking pads, I have not yet purchased one.

I plan on doing so, this week.  I am still searching so if you have discovered 
a model that you find interesting, let us know.

One thing I will insist on is that my unit must have, at least, 2.5  horse 
power.  Anything less than 2.5 will simply not last long enough, based on how I 
intend to use the unit.

Mark


From:

RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

2024-06-02 Thread Richard

I’ve reviewed Amazon listings. Here’s one that looks interesting to me:

*   Maksone Folding Walking Pad, Wood Under Desk Treadmill with Adjustable 
Handlebar, Foldable Treadmill with Remote Control - Maximum Horsepower - 3 
Horsepower

 

I like it that this unit has a handlebar. It’s unclear if the controls require 
vision for basic operation.

 

Richard Petty

richard.pe...@earthlink.net  

 

 

 

 

From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

 

Hello Everyone,

 

With regard to walking pads, I have not yet purchased one.

 

I plan on doing so, this week.  I am still searching so if you have discovered 
a model that you find interesting, let us know.

 

One thing I will insist on is that my unit must have, at least, 2.5  horse 
power.  Anything less than 2.5 will simply not last long enough, based on how I 
intend to use the unit.

 

Mark

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

 

Many people install these under desks and walk while working or doing other 
tasks. Having it under the desk means you can pull it out slightly to use, but 
you still can touch the desk while walking to stay oriented.

Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.

Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com  

Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.

 

On Jun 1, 2024, at 11:08 PM, Richard mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

Good question.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
James Bentley
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

If these walking pads do not have a hand rail, how do you manage to stay on the 
pad?

James B 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Mark and all,

I found several walking pads on Amazon. The better options I found were priced 
from $200 and up to About $380. They all could be stored under a bed and one 
producer claimed their pad could be stored under a sofa. A couple had 
adjustable incline features.

A question for Mark and anyone else who might know. Even though those that send 
data to a  smart phone tracking app are at  a higher price point, are there any 
that are relatively easy to operate without vision? One walking pad used a 
remote control. I'm not sure about others.

I'm interested in a walking pad after learning about them from Mark, so will 
appreciate any help about their accessibility..


Richard Petty
richard.pe...@earthlink.net  




-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> > On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 3:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions

Hello All,

1.
Well, I recently returned from a short vacation and during the trip, for the 
first time, I made extensive use of Air Tags.  I was delighted to discover that 
they work remarkably well.  However, to me, it seemed, that using the Find My 
app, with the Left Behind notification feature enabled, drain my battery a 
little faster than expected.  I don't know if this is exactly true because, 
during the journey, I did take more photos than normal and my screen brightness 
was set to a higher level in order for me to be able to see the phone's 
display, out in the sunlight.

2.
Someone, on list, suggested that she could not add a television series to her 
recorded list in Youtube TV for TVOS.  I just tested this feature on my Apple 
TV, and found that the feature functions as expected, when VoiceOver is enabled.

3.
One of the latest trends in home exercise is using a walking pad.
Essentially, a walking pad is a much smaller version of a treadmill.
Generally, the cost of a walking pad starts at around 140 USD.  Many of them 
require no assembly and do not have a handrail.  They are so very popular that, 
during my research, I discovered, at least, 30 brands with seemingly endless 
models.  As a former owner of over 12 full-size exercise devices including 
several very expensive commercial grade treadmills, which I used in order to 
achieve my various health goals many years ago, I have decided to purchase one 
of these walking pads.  For the

RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Hi Merv,

What ever you decide to buy, make sure you give some serious thought  to buying 
a standing desk.
Unless you have some way of knowing if you are on the right track.
I was quite interested in learning more about the walking pads, but I will take 
a pass just so I wouldn’t have to buy a standing desk, as that can take up 
space.

Good luck.

Janet

From: 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone 
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 6:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Hi,
I have been looking for a walking bad that I can either use under a computer 
desk, or be portable enough that I can keep folded up and only put down in 
front of my chair when I want to use it. I don’t have room for a full size 
treadmill and I can’t use a bike or stepper or elliptical because of a bad knee.

I saw quite a few on Amazon. But have no idea which ones are accessible. Some 
have remote controls and some have apps. I would want one that is heavy duty 
just so it would not wear out. I want at least a 2.5 HP like Mark stated. I 
asked about options on multiple lists but received no responses.
Merv



On Jun 2, 2024, at 6:56 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:

James,

Here is some information I Googled about the standing desks, just to give you 
an idea.
I also seen some information about mini steppers, in which is the mini version 
of a master stepper, as well as the walking pads.

A standing desk, also known as a stand-up desk or height-adjustable desk, is a 
piece of office furniture that allows you to stand while working. Standing 
desks can be fixed in place, only adjustable a few inches, or adjustable to 
seated height. Some standing desks are designed to keep you active while 
working, such as treadmill or elliptical desks. You can also convert a 
traditional desk into a standing desk by adding a desk riser, which raises your 
monitor or laptop to eye level.
Standing Desks: Everything You Need to Know
Dec 1, 2016 — and then there's the adjustable height standing desk the fixed 
standing desk or rig is any setup that allows a person to stand or be upright. 
but doesn't give them the option to sit down. along with a traditional standing 
desk this category also includes some desks that were designed to keep you 
active while you work including the treadmill desk and even elliptical desks 
besides the full desks there are also rigs that let you raise your computer and 
monitors to standing height. this type of desk is kind of an easy DIY. project. 
it's not so hard to make there are also dozens of commercially available 
options in the marketplace. today. but in just a minute I'm going to explain 
why this isn't the type I would necessarily recommend. for standing at work. 
next up our risers. risers. are in addition to your existing desk they give you 
the option to quickly go from sitting to standing or vice versa.

Evolution of Standing Desks
Standing desks may seem like the hot new thing, but they're really not new. 
Also known as a stand-up desk or a height-adjustable desk, this office mainstay 
has definitely gained popularity in recent years as a way to improve health and 
productivity in the workplace. But the concept of standing while working is not 
a new one. In fact, the history of standing desks dates back hundreds of years.



From: 
viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 5:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

The entire concept sounds half baked and actually dangerous to me.

James B


From: 
viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 5:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Hi James and All,
Maybe if we stay close to a wall, we can reach out our hand to feel the wall 
just to be for sure where we are.
That is all I can think of right now, and I’m not sure if that is right or not.

Janet

From: 
viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
 On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 4:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

I’m still trying to figure out how you stay on the pad while walking or jogging 
if there are not any handles.

James B


From: M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Hello Everyone,

With regard to walking pads, I have not yet purchased

RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Thanks for looking all of this stuff up.

I do not want a new desk because I like my current desk.  So, this walking pad 
with no handles isn’t my cup of tea.

Thanks again for the information.

 

James B 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 5:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

 

James, 

 

Here is some information I Googled about the standing desks, just to give you 
an idea.  

I also seen some information about mini steppers, in which is the mini version 
of a master stepper, as well as the walking pads.  

 

A standing desk, also known as a stand-up desk or height-adjustable desk, is a 
piece of office furniture that allows you to stand while working. Standing 
desks can be fixed in place, only adjustable a few inches, or adjustable to 
seated height. Some standing desks are designed to keep you active while 
working, such as treadmill or elliptical desks. You can also convert a 
traditional desk into a standing desk by adding a desk riser, which raises your 
monitor or laptop to eye level. 

Standing Desks: Everything You Need to Know

Dec 1, 2016 — and then there's the adjustable height standing desk the fixed 
standing desk or rig is any setup that allows a person to stand or be upright. 
but doesn't give them the option to sit down. along with a traditional standing 
desk this category also includes some desks that were designed to keep you 
active while you work including the treadmill desk and even elliptical desks 
besides the full desks there are also rigs that let you raise your computer and 
monitors to standing height. this type of desk is kind of an easy DIY. project. 
it's not so hard to make there are also dozens of commercially available 
options in the marketplace. today. but in just a minute I'm going to explain 
why this isn't the type I would necessarily recommend. for standing at work. 
next up our risers. risers. are in addition to your existing desk they give you 
the option to quickly go from sitting to standing or vice versa.

 

Evolution of Standing Desks

Standing desks may seem like the hot new thing, but they're really not new. 
Also known as a stand-up desk or a height-adjustable desk, this office mainstay 
has definitely gained popularity in recent years as a way to improve health and 
productivity in the workplace. But the concept of standing while working is not 
a new one. In fact, the history of standing desks dates back hundreds of years.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
James Bentley
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 5:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

 

The entire concept sounds half baked and actually dangerous to me.

 

James B 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 5:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

 

Hi James and All, 

Maybe if we stay close to a wall, we can reach out our hand to feel the wall 
just to be for sure where we are.  

That is all I can think of right now, and I’m not sure if that is right or not. 
 

 

Janet   

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
James Bentley
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 4:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

 

I’m still trying to figure out how you stay on the pad while walking or jogging 
if there are not any handles.

 

James B 

 

 

From: M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> > On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

 

Hello Everyone,

 

With regard to walking pads, I have not yet purchased one.

 

I plan on doing so, this week.  I am still searching so if you have discovered 
a model that you find interesting, let us know.

 

One thing I will insist on is that my unit must have, at least, 2.5  horse 
power.  Anything less than 2.5 will simply not last long enough, based on how I 
intend to use the unit.

 

Mark

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

 

Many people install these under desks and walk while working or doing other 
tasks.

Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

2024-06-02 Thread 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone

Hi,
I have been looking for a walking bad that I can either use under a computer 
desk, or be portable enough that I can keep folded up and only put down in 
front of my chair when I want to use it. I don’t have room for a full size 
treadmill and I can’t use a bike or stepper or elliptical because of a bad 
knee. 

I saw quite a few on Amazon. But have no idea which ones are accessible. Some 
have remote controls and some have apps. I would want one that is heavy duty 
just so it would not wear out. I want at least a 2.5 HP like Mark stated. I 
asked about options on multiple lists but received no responses.
Merv
 

> On Jun 2, 2024, at 6:56 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> James,
>  
> Here is some information I Googled about the standing desks, just to give you 
> an idea. 
> I also seen some information about mini steppers, in which is the mini 
> version of a master stepper, as well as the walking pads. 
>  
> A standing desk, also known as a stand-up desk or height-adjustable desk, is 
> a piece of office furniture that allows you to stand while working. Standing 
> desks can be fixed in place, only adjustable a few inches, or adjustable to 
> seated height. Some standing desks are designed to keep you active while 
> working, such as treadmill or elliptical desks. You can also convert a 
> traditional desk into a standing desk by adding a desk riser, which raises 
> your monitor or laptop to eye level. 
> Standing Desks: Everything You Need to Know
> Dec 1, 2016 — and then there's the adjustable height standing desk the fixed 
> standing desk or rig is any setup that allows a person to stand or be 
> upright. but doesn't give them the option to sit down. along with a 
> traditional standing desk this category also includes some desks that were 
> designed to keep you active while you work including the treadmill desk and 
> even elliptical desks besides the full desks there are also rigs that let you 
> raise your computer and monitors to standing height. this type of desk is 
> kind of an easy DIY. project. it's not so hard to make there are also dozens 
> of commercially available options in the marketplace. today. but in just a 
> minute I'm going to explain why this isn't the type I would necessarily 
> recommend. for standing at work. next up our risers. risers. are in addition 
> to your existing desk they give you the option to quickly go from sitting to 
> standing or vice versa.
>  
> Evolution of Standing Desks
> Standing desks may seem like the hot new thing, but they're really not new. 
> Also known as a stand-up desk or a height-adjustable desk, this office 
> mainstay has definitely gained popularity in recent years as a way to improve 
> health and productivity in the workplace. But the concept of standing while 
> working is not a new one. In fact, the history of standing desks dates back 
> hundreds of years.
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of James Bentley
> Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 5:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads
>  
> The entire concept sounds half baked and actually dangerous to me.
>  
> James B
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of janet gross
> Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 5:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads
>  
> Hi James and All,
> Maybe if we stay close to a wall, we can reach out our hand to feel the wall 
> just to be for sure where we are. 
> That is all I can think of right now, and I’m not sure if that is right or 
> not. 
>  
> Janet   
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of James Bentley
> Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 4:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads
>  
> I’m still trying to figure out how you stay on the pad while walking or 
> jogging if there are not any handles.
>  
> James B
>  
>  
> From: M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
> Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 2:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads
>  
> Hello Everyone,
>  
> With regard to walking pads, I have not yet purchased one.
>  
> I plan on doing so, this week.  I am still searching so if you have 
> discovered a model that you find interesting, let us know.
>  
> One thing I will insist on is that my unit must have, at least, 2.5  horse 
> power.  Anything less than 2.5 will simply not last long enough, based on how 
> I intend to use the unit.
>  
> Mark
>  
>  
>

Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

2024-06-02 Thread 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone

Hi,
I have been looking for a walking bad that I can either use under a computer 
desk, or be portable enough that I can keep folded up and only put down in 
front of my chair when I want to use it. I don’t have room for a full size 
treadmill and I can’t use a bike or stepper or elliptical because of a bad 
knee. 

I saw quite a few on Amazon. But have no idea which ones are accessible. Some 
have remote controls and some have apps. I would want one that is heavy duty 
just so it would not wear out. I want at least a 2.5 HP like Mark stated. I 
asked about options on multiple lists but received no responses.
Merv
 

> On Jun 2, 2024, at 6:56 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> James,
>  
> Here is some information I Googled about the standing desks, just to give you 
> an idea. 
> I also seen some information about mini steppers, in which is the mini 
> version of a master stepper, as well as the walking pads. 
>  
> A standing desk, also known as a stand-up desk or height-adjustable desk, is 
> a piece of office furniture that allows you to stand while working. Standing 
> desks can be fixed in place, only adjustable a few inches, or adjustable to 
> seated height. Some standing desks are designed to keep you active while 
> working, such as treadmill or elliptical desks. You can also convert a 
> traditional desk into a standing desk by adding a desk riser, which raises 
> your monitor or laptop to eye level. 
> Standing Desks: Everything You Need to Know
> Dec 1, 2016 — and then there's the adjustable height standing desk the fixed 
> standing desk or rig is any setup that allows a person to stand or be 
> upright. but doesn't give them the option to sit down. along with a 
> traditional standing desk this category also includes some desks that were 
> designed to keep you active while you work including the treadmill desk and 
> even elliptical desks besides the full desks there are also rigs that let you 
> raise your computer and monitors to standing height. this type of desk is 
> kind of an easy DIY. project. it's not so hard to make there are also dozens 
> of commercially available options in the marketplace. today. but in just a 
> minute I'm going to explain why this isn't the type I would necessarily 
> recommend. for standing at work. next up our risers. risers. are in addition 
> to your existing desk they give you the option to quickly go from sitting to 
> standing or vice versa.
>  
> Evolution of Standing Desks
> Standing desks may seem like the hot new thing, but they're really not new. 
> Also known as a stand-up desk or a height-adjustable desk, this office 
> mainstay has definitely gained popularity in recent years as a way to improve 
> health and productivity in the workplace. But the concept of standing while 
> working is not a new one. In fact, the history of standing desks dates back 
> hundreds of years.
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of James Bentley
> Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 5:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads
>  
> The entire concept sounds half baked and actually dangerous to me.
>  
> James B
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of janet gross
> Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 5:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads
>  
> Hi James and All,
> Maybe if we stay close to a wall, we can reach out our hand to feel the wall 
> just to be for sure where we are. 
> That is all I can think of right now, and I’m not sure if that is right or 
> not. 
>  
> Janet   
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of James Bentley
> Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 4:25 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads
>  
> I’m still trying to figure out how you stay on the pad while walking or 
> jogging if there are not any handles.
>  
> James B
>  
>  
> From: M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> On Behalf Of M. 
> Taylor
> Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 2:43 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads
>  
> Hello Everyone,
>  
> With regard to walking pads, I have not yet purchased one.
>  
> I plan on doing so, this week.  I am still searching so if you have 
> discovered a model that you find interesting, let us know.
>  
> One thing I will insist on is that my unit must have, at least, 2.5  horse 
> power.  Anything less than 2.5 will simply not last long enough, based on how 
> I intend to use the unit.
>  
> Mark
>  
>  
>

RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

James,

Here is some information I Googled about the standing desks, just to give you 
an idea.
I also seen some information about mini steppers, in which is the mini version 
of a master stepper, as well as the walking pads.

A standing desk, also known as a stand-up desk or height-adjustable desk, is a 
piece of office furniture that allows you to stand while working. Standing 
desks can be fixed in place, only adjustable a few inches, or adjustable to 
seated height. Some standing desks are designed to keep you active while 
working, such as treadmill or elliptical desks. You can also convert a 
traditional desk into a standing desk by adding a desk riser, which raises your 
monitor or laptop to eye level.
Standing Desks: Everything You Need to Know
Dec 1, 2016 — and then there's the adjustable height standing desk the fixed 
standing desk or rig is any setup that allows a person to stand or be upright. 
but doesn't give them the option to sit down. along with a traditional standing 
desk this category also includes some desks that were designed to keep you 
active while you work including the treadmill desk and even elliptical desks 
besides the full desks there are also rigs that let you raise your computer and 
monitors to standing height. this type of desk is kind of an easy DIY. project. 
it's not so hard to make there are also dozens of commercially available 
options in the marketplace. today. but in just a minute I'm going to explain 
why this isn't the type I would necessarily recommend. for standing at work. 
next up our risers. risers. are in addition to your existing desk they give you 
the option to quickly go from sitting to standing or vice versa.

Evolution of Standing Desks
Standing desks may seem like the hot new thing, but they're really not new. 
Also known as a stand-up desk or a height-adjustable desk, this office mainstay 
has definitely gained popularity in recent years as a way to improve health and 
productivity in the workplace. But the concept of standing while working is not 
a new one. In fact, the history of standing desks dates back hundreds of years.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of James 
Bentley
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 5:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

The entire concept sounds half baked and actually dangerous to me.

James B


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 5:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Hi James and All,
Maybe if we stay close to a wall, we can reach out our hand to feel the wall 
just to be for sure where we are.
That is all I can think of right now, and I’m not sure if that is right or not.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of James 
Bentley
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 4:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

I’m still trying to figure out how you stay on the pad while walking or jogging 
if there are not any handles.

James B


From: M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Hello Everyone,

With regard to walking pads, I have not yet purchased one.

I plan on doing so, this week.  I am still searching so if you have discovered 
a model that you find interesting, let us know.

One thing I will insist on is that my unit must have, at least, 2.5  horse 
power.  Anything less than 2.5 will simply not last long enough, based on how I 
intend to use the unit.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Many people install these under desks and walk while working or doing other 
tasks. Having it under the desk means you can pull it out slightly to use, but 
you still can touch the desk while walking to stay oriented.
Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com
Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.

On Jun 1, 2024, at 11:08 PM, Richard 
mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net>> wrote:
Good question.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of James 
Bentley
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:40 PM
To:

RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

The entire concept sounds half baked and actually dangerous to me.

 

James B 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 5:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

 

Hi James and All, 

Maybe if we stay close to a wall, we can reach out our hand to feel the wall 
just to be for sure where we are.  

That is all I can think of right now, and I’m not sure if that is right or not. 
 

 

Janet   

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
James Bentley
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 4:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

 

I’m still trying to figure out how you stay on the pad while walking or jogging 
if there are not any handles.

 

James B 

 

 

From: M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> > On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

 

Hello Everyone,

 

With regard to walking pads, I have not yet purchased one.

 

I plan on doing so, this week.  I am still searching so if you have discovered 
a model that you find interesting, let us know.

 

One thing I will insist on is that my unit must have, at least, 2.5  horse 
power.  Anything less than 2.5 will simply not last long enough, based on how I 
intend to use the unit.

 

Mark

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

 

Many people install these under desks and walk while working or doing other 
tasks. Having it under the desk means you can pull it out slightly to use, but 
you still can touch the desk while walking to stay oriented.

Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.

Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com  

Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.

 

On Jun 1, 2024, at 11:08 PM, Richard mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

Good question.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
James Bentley
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

If these walking pads do not have a hand rail, how do you manage to stay on the 
pad?

James B 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Mark and all,

I found several walking pads on Amazon. The better options I found were priced 
from $200 and up to About $380. They all could be stored under a bed and one 
producer claimed their pad could be stored under a sofa. A couple had 
adjustable incline features.

A question for Mark and anyone else who might know. Even though those that send 
data to a  smart phone tracking app are at  a higher price point, are there any 
that are relatively easy to operate without vision? One walking pad used a 
remote control. I'm not sure about others.

I'm interested in a walking pad after learning about them from Mark, so will 
appreciate any help about their accessibility..


Richard Petty
richard.pe...@earthlink.net  




-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> > On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 3:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions

Hello All,

1.
Well, I recently returned from a short vacation and during the trip, for the 
first time, I made extensive use of Air Tags.  I was delighted to discover that 
they work remarkably well.  However, to me, it seemed, that using the Find My 
app, with the Left Behind notification feature enabled, drain my battery a 
little faster than expected.  I don't know if this is exactly true because, 
during the journey, I did take more photos than normal and my screen brightness 
was set to a higher level in order for me to be able to see the phone's 
display, out in the sunlight.

2.
Someone, on list, suggested that she could not add a television series to her 
recorded list in Youtube TV for TVOS.  I just tested this feature on my Apple 
TV, and found that the feature functions as

RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Hi Tai,

Thank you for this.
I had to actually Google what a standing desk was, as I’ve never heard of that 
either.
I do now see what you are talking about when you say a standing desk.


Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 5:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Typically, people are using these with standing desks which are higher than 
traditional desks. They will place the walking pad just in front of the bar 
underneath the desk so that they can walk on it but also be touching the 
standing desk and its raised position while they are standing to work and walk.
Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com
Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.


On Jun 2, 2024, at 6:08 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hi,

I would think someone might  have to be quite short to use the desk for a guide 
to stay on the walking pad.
I’m not a very tall person, but all desks I’ve seen are much shorter than I am, 
so if I was to use the desk, I would need to continuously bend down to feel the 
desk.
I’m not sure if that is right.
I can’t seem to find anything online to explain just how to stay on the walking 
pads though.

Janet



From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 4:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

James,
These units are typically installed underneath desks so that you can use the 
desktop to orient you while you are walking on the walking pad.
Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com
Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.



On Jun 2, 2024, at 5:25 PM, James Bentley 
mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I’m still trying to figure out how you stay on the pad while walking or jogging 
if there are not any handles.

James B


From: M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Hello Everyone,

With regard to walking pads, I have not yet purchased one.

I plan on doing so, this week.  I am still searching so if you have discovered 
a model that you find interesting, let us know.

One thing I will insist on is that my unit must have, at least, 2.5  horse 
power.  Anything less than 2.5 will simply not last long enough, based on how I 
intend to use the unit.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Many people install these under desks and walk while working or doing other 
tasks. Having it under the desk means you can pull it out slightly to use, but 
you still can touch the desk while walking to stay oriented.
Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com
Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.

On Jun 1, 2024, at 11:08 PM, Richard 
mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net>> wrote:
Good question.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of James 
Bentley
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

If these walking pads do not have a hand rail, how do you manage to stay on the 
pad?

James B


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Mark and all,

I found several walking pads on Amazon. The better options I found were priced 
from $200 and up to About $380. They all could be stored under a bed and one 
producer claimed their pad could be stored under a sofa. A couple had 
adjustable incline features.

A question for Mark and anyone else who might know. Even though those that send 
data to a  smart phone tracking app are at  a higher price point, are there any 
that are relatively easy to operate without vision? One walking pad used a 
remote control. I'm not sure about others.

I'm interested in a walking pad after learning about them from Mark, so will 
appreciate any help

RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Sure sounds like I would just bust my a**.

 

James B 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 4:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

 

James,

These units are typically installed underneath desks so that you can use the 
desktop to orient you while you are walking on the walking pad.

Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.

Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com  

Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.





On Jun 2, 2024, at 5:25 PM, James Bentley mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com> > wrote:



I’m still trying to figure out how you stay on the pad while walking or jogging 
if there are not any handles.

 

James B 

 

 

From: M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> > On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

 

Hello Everyone,

 

With regard to walking pads, I have not yet purchased one.

 

I plan on doing so, this week.  I am still searching so if you have discovered 
a model that you find interesting, let us know.

 

One thing I will insist on is that my unit must have, at least, 2.5  horse 
power.  Anything less than 2.5 will simply not last long enough, based on how I 
intend to use the unit.

 

Mark

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

 

Many people install these under desks and walk while working or doing other 
tasks. Having it under the desk means you can pull it out slightly to use, but 
you still can touch the desk while walking to stay oriented.

Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.

Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com  

Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.

 

On Jun 1, 2024, at 11:08 PM, Richard mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

Good question.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
James Bentley
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

If these walking pads do not have a hand rail, how do you manage to stay on the 
pad?

James B 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Mark and all,

I found several walking pads on Amazon. The better options I found were priced 
from $200 and up to About $380. They all could be stored under a bed and one 
producer claimed their pad could be stored under a sofa. A couple had 
adjustable incline features.

A question for Mark and anyone else who might know. Even though those that send 
data to a  smart phone tracking app are at  a higher price point, are there any 
that are relatively easy to operate without vision? One walking pad used a 
remote control. I'm not sure about others.

I'm interested in a walking pad after learning about them from Mark, so will 
appreciate any help about their accessibility..


Richard Petty
richard.pe...@earthlink.net  




-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> > On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 3:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions

Hello All,

1.
Well, I recently returned from a short vacation and during the trip, for the 
first time, I made extensive use of Air Tags.  I was delighted to discover that 
they work remarkably well.  However, to me, it seemed, that using the Find My 
app, with the Left Behind notification feature enabled, drain my battery a 
little faster than expected.  I don't know if this is exactly true because, 
during the journey, I did take more photos than normal and my screen brightness 
was set to a higher level in order for me to be able to see the phone's 
display, out in the sunlight.

2.
Someone, on list, suggested that she could not add a television series to her 
recorded list in Youtube TV for TVOS.  I just tested this feature on my Apple 
TV, and found that the feature functions as expected, when VoiceOver is enabled.

3.
One of the latest trends in home exercise is using a walking pad.
Essentially, a walking pad is a much smaller version of a

Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

2024-06-02 Thread Tai Tomasi

Typically, people are using these with standing desks which are higher than traditional desks. They will place the walking pad just in front of the bar underneath the desk so that they can walk on it but also be touching the standing desk and its raised position while they are standing to work and walk.Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.Email: tai.toma...@gmail.comSent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.On Jun 2, 2024, at 6:08 PM, janet gross  wrote:







Hi,

 
I would think someone might  have to be quite short to use the desk for a
guide to stay on the walking pad.  
I’m not a very tall person, but all desks I’ve seen are much shorter than I am, so if I was to use the desk, I would need to continuously bend down to feel the desk. 

I’m not sure if that is right.  
I can’t seem to find anything online to explain just how to stay on the walking pads though. 

 
Janet 
 
 
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 4:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads


 

James,


These units are typically installed underneath desks so that you can use the desktop to orient you while you are walking on the walking pad.



Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.

Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com


Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.







On Jun 2, 2024, at 5:25 PM, James Bentley  wrote:





I’m still trying to figure out how you stay on the pad while walking or jogging if there are not any handles.
 
James B

 
 


From: M. Taylor 
On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads


 
Hello Everyone,
 
With regard to walking pads, I have not yet purchased one.
 
I plan on doing so, this week.  I am still searching so if you have discovered a model that you find interesting, let us know.
 
One thing I will insist on is that my unit must have, at least, 2.5  horse power.  Anything less than 2.5 will simply not last long enough, based on how I intend to use the
 unit.
 
Mark
 
 


From:
viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Tai Tomasi
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads


 
Many people install these under desks and walk while working or doing other tasks. Having it under the desk means you can pull it out slightly to use, but you still can touch the desk while walking to stay oriented.

Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.

Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com


Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.



 

On Jun 1, 2024, at 11:08 PM, Richard  wrote:




Good question.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of James Bentley
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

If these walking pads do not have a hand rail, how do you manage to stay on the pad?

James B 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Mark and all,

I found several walking pads on Amazon. The better options I found were priced from $200 and up to About $380. They all could be stored under a bed and one producer claimed their pad could be stored under a sofa. A couple had adjustable incline features.

A question for Mark and anyone else who might know. Even though those that send data to a  smart phone tracking app are at  a higher price point, are there any that are relatively easy to operate without vision? One walking pad used a remote control. I'm not
 sure about others.

I'm interested in a walking pad after learning about them from Mark, so will appreciate any help about their accessibility..


Richard Petty
richard.pe...@earthlink.net




-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 3:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions

Hello All,

1.
Well, I recently returned from a short vacation and during the trip, for the first time, I made extensive use of Air Tags.  I was delighted to discover that they work remarkably well.  However, to me, it seemed, that using the Find My app, with the Left Behind
 notification feature enabled, drain my battery a little faster than expected.  I don't know if this is exactly true because, during the journey, I did take more photos than normal and my screen brightness was set to a higher level in order for me to be able
 to see the phone's display, out

RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Hi James and All,
Maybe if we stay close to a wall, we can reach out our hand to feel the wall 
just to be for sure where we are.
That is all I can think of right now, and I’m not sure if that is right or not.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of James 
Bentley
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 4:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

I’m still trying to figure out how you stay on the pad while walking or jogging 
if there are not any handles.

James B


From: M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Hello Everyone,

With regard to walking pads, I have not yet purchased one.

I plan on doing so, this week.  I am still searching so if you have discovered 
a model that you find interesting, let us know.

One thing I will insist on is that my unit must have, at least, 2.5  horse 
power.  Anything less than 2.5 will simply not last long enough, based on how I 
intend to use the unit.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Many people install these under desks and walk while working or doing other 
tasks. Having it under the desk means you can pull it out slightly to use, but 
you still can touch the desk while walking to stay oriented.
Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com
Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.

On Jun 1, 2024, at 11:08 PM, Richard 
mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net>> wrote:
Good question.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of James 
Bentley
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

If these walking pads do not have a hand rail, how do you manage to stay on the 
pad?

James B


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Mark and all,

I found several walking pads on Amazon. The better options I found were priced 
from $200 and up to About $380. They all could be stored under a bed and one 
producer claimed their pad could be stored under a sofa. A couple had 
adjustable incline features.

A question for Mark and anyone else who might know. Even though those that send 
data to a  smart phone tracking app are at  a higher price point, are there any 
that are relatively easy to operate without vision? One walking pad used a 
remote control. I'm not sure about others.

I'm interested in a walking pad after learning about them from Mark, so will 
appreciate any help about their accessibility..


Richard Petty
richard.pe...@earthlink.net




-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 3:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions

Hello All,

1.
Well, I recently returned from a short vacation and during the trip, for the 
first time, I made extensive use of Air Tags.  I was delighted to discover that 
they work remarkably well.  However, to me, it seemed, that using the Find My 
app, with the Left Behind notification feature enabled, drain my battery a 
little faster than expected.  I don't know if this is exactly true because, 
during the journey, I did take more photos than normal and my screen brightness 
was set to a higher level in order for me to be able to see the phone's 
display, out in the sunlight.

2.
Someone, on list, suggested that she could not add a television series to her 
recorded list in Youtube TV for TVOS.  I just tested this feature on my Apple 
TV, and found that the feature functions as expected, when VoiceOver is enabled.

3.
One of the latest trends in home exercise is using a walking pad.
Essentially, a walking pad is a much smaller version of a treadmill.
Generally, the cost of a walking pad starts at around 140 USD.  Many of them 
require no assembly and do not have a handrail.  They are so very popular that, 
during my research, I discovered, at least, 30 brands with seemingly endless 
models.  As a former owner of over 12 full-size exercise devices

RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Hi,

I would think someone might  have to be quite short to use the desk for a guide 
to stay on the walking pad.
I’m not a very tall person, but all desks I’ve seen are much shorter than I am, 
so if I was to use the desk, I would need to continuously bend down to feel the 
desk.
I’m not sure if that is right.
I can’t seem to find anything online to explain just how to stay on the walking 
pads though.

Janet



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 4:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

James,
These units are typically installed underneath desks so that you can use the 
desktop to orient you while you are walking on the walking pad.
Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com
Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.


On Jun 2, 2024, at 5:25 PM, James Bentley 
mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I’m still trying to figure out how you stay on the pad while walking or jogging 
if there are not any handles.

James B


From: M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Hello Everyone,

With regard to walking pads, I have not yet purchased one.

I plan on doing so, this week.  I am still searching so if you have discovered 
a model that you find interesting, let us know.

One thing I will insist on is that my unit must have, at least, 2.5  horse 
power.  Anything less than 2.5 will simply not last long enough, based on how I 
intend to use the unit.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Many people install these under desks and walk while working or doing other 
tasks. Having it under the desk means you can pull it out slightly to use, but 
you still can touch the desk while walking to stay oriented.
Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com
Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.

On Jun 1, 2024, at 11:08 PM, Richard 
mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net>> wrote:
Good question.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of James 
Bentley
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

If these walking pads do not have a hand rail, how do you manage to stay on the 
pad?

James B


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Mark and all,

I found several walking pads on Amazon. The better options I found were priced 
from $200 and up to About $380. They all could be stored under a bed and one 
producer claimed their pad could be stored under a sofa. A couple had 
adjustable incline features.

A question for Mark and anyone else who might know. Even though those that send 
data to a  smart phone tracking app are at  a higher price point, are there any 
that are relatively easy to operate without vision? One walking pad used a 
remote control. I'm not sure about others.

I'm interested in a walking pad after learning about them from Mark, so will 
appreciate any help about their accessibility..


Richard Petty
richard.pe...@earthlink.net




-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 3:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions

Hello All,

1.
Well, I recently returned from a short vacation and during the trip, for the 
first time, I made extensive use of Air Tags.  I was delighted to discover that 
they work remarkably well.  However, to me, it seemed, that using the Find My 
app, with the Left Behind notification feature enabled, drain my battery a 
little faster than expected.  I don't know if this is exactly true because, 
during the journey, I did take more photos than normal and my screen brightness 
was set to a higher level in order for me to be able to see the phone's 
display, out in the sunlight.

2.
Someone, on list, suggested that she could not add a television series to her 
recorded list in

Re: Transferring Files to a New Phone

2024-06-02 Thread Richard Turner

I do not believe BARD books get backed up. I've always had to download them after restoring a backup on a new phone. Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Jun 2, 2024, at 2:13 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:







Is this true? If you have enough space then you can include BARD in your backup. I assume when you restore your iPhone then you’d get your BARD books back again. Obviously,
 I won’t be testing this until I get a new iPhone. BTW, when you get a new iPhone, Apple will temporarily give you enough storage to back up your iPhone.
 

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Transferring Files to a New Phone


 
Hi Steve. Bard books is something that won’t transfer over to a new mhone. The only thing you can do, is to redownload your books onto your new phone again. I know how annoying this is. Hoefully this will change sometime in the future.

Sent from My totally awesome iPhone!!






On Jun 2, 2024, at 3:19 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:




When I did it last, in December 2022, neither my bard nor my kindle books transferred. My Voice Dream library did. 

 


Arnold Schmidt 


 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3



On Jun 1, 2024, at 5:06 PM, Steve Matzura  wrote:


 

It's that time once again, and several iOS versions have gone by since last I even thought about this problem, but I am now in the process of getting data transferred to a new phone. Some applications, specifically BARD, have files that cannot be accessed
 through user-level applications like File or File Browser. So, is it possible to move lots and lots of BARD books from one device to another without having to re-download them? If so, can a user do it, or must it be done by an iOS technician at a store?
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Re: VDR and BKS not playing nice together

2024-06-02 Thread Richard Turner

There is no problem here with Bookshare. It is important when you have issues to say which device and which iOS you are using as well as which version of Voice Dream. The best thing to do to contact Voice Dream is from within the app. Double tap on settingin Voice Dream, then on email support. That way, they get diagnostic info from your phone. Or write to supp...@voicedream.comRichard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Jun 2, 2024, at 1:29 PM, Alex Stone  wrote:I believe it’s supp...@voicedream.colOn Sun, 2 Jun 2024 at 21:27, regina alvarado  wrote:Hi, is there a problem with voice dream reader and bookshare continuing? I no longer can download books.. Where do I write to Voice Dream? I am paying by the month. Thanks for any help you can give on this. I want to add my voice and urge them to fix this as I am paying for VDR and my subscription with Bookshare is current until November. Thanks again.



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Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

2024-06-02 Thread Tai Tomasi

James,These units are typically installed underneath desks so that you can use the desktop to orient you while you are walking on the walking pad.Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.Email: tai.toma...@gmail.comSent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.On Jun 2, 2024, at 5:25 PM, James Bentley  wrote:I’m still trying to figure out how you stay on the pad while walking or jogging if there are not any handles. James B   From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. TaylorSent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 2:43 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads Hello Everyone, With regard to walking pads, I have not yet purchased one. I plan on doing so, this week.  I am still searching so if you have discovered a model that you find interesting, let us know. One thing I will insist on is that my unit must have, at least, 2.5  horse power.  Anything less than 2.5 will simply not last long enough, based on how I intend to use the unit. Mark  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tai TomasiSent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:14 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads Many people install these under desks and walk while working or doing other tasks. Having it under the desk means you can pull it out slightly to use, but you still can touch the desk while walking to stay oriented.Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.Email: tai.toma...@gmail.comSent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. On Jun 1, 2024, at 11:08 PM, Richard  wrote:Good question.-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of James BentleySent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:40 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking PadsIf these walking pads do not have a hand rail, how do you manage to stay on the pad?James B -Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of RichardSent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:28 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking PadsMark and all,I found several walking pads on Amazon. The better options I found were priced from $200 and up to About $380. They all could be stored under a bed and one producer claimed their pad could be stored under a sofa. A couple had adjustable incline features.A question for Mark and anyone else who might know. Even though those that send data to a  smart phone tracking app are at  a higher price point, are there any that are relatively easy to operate without vision? One walking pad used a remote control. I'm not sure about others.I'm interested in a walking pad after learning about them from Mark, so will appreciate any help about their accessibility..Richard Pettyrichard.pe...@earthlink.net-Original Message-From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. TaylorSent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 3:34 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and QuestionsHello All,1.Well, I recently returned from a short vacation and during the trip, for the first time, I made extensive use of Air Tags.  I was delighted to discover that they work remarkably well.  However, to me, it seemed, that using the Find My app, with the Left Behind notification feature enabled, drain my battery a little faster than expected.  I don't know if this is exactly true because, during the journey, I did take more photos than normal and my screen brightness was set to a higher level in order for me to be able to see the phone's display, out in the sunlight.2.Someone, on list, suggested that she could not add a television series to her recorded list in Youtube TV for TVOS.  I just tested this feature on my Apple TV, and found that the feature functions as expected, when VoiceOver is enabled.3.One of the latest trends in home exercise is using a walking pad.Essentially, a walking pad is a much smaller version of a treadmill.Generally, the cost of a walking pad starts at around 140 USD.  Many of them require no assembly and do not have a handrail.  They are so very popular that, during my research, I discovered, at least, 30 brands with seemingly endless models.  As a former owner of over 12 full-size exercise devices including several very expensive commercial grade treadmills, which I used in order to achieve my various health goals many years ago, I have decided to purchase one of these walking pads.  For the record, although I thoroughly enjoyed my commercial grade devices, keeping those machines in proper order takes a great deal of tools, parts, and time (if one elects to maintain them by hand, as I did) or a great deal of money if one elects to have them serviced on a regular basis.  One feature that I would like to have on my new walking pad is the ability to have all of the exercise

Pausing and Resuming Voice Memo, It Can Be Done

2024-06-02 Thread Arnold Schmidt

This came up a little while ago, when I basicly had to figure it out every time 
   I wanted to do it. After having to do it today, I feel confident enough to 
write how to do it, hopefully better late than never. 

Go into voice memo and start a recording. It does not have to be more than a 
second or two, then stop it. Now, hit the more actions button, then the edit 
button within more actions. There is an edit button in the top left corner of 
the screen before you hit more actions, this is not the one you want. If you 
are at the end of the recording you just made, there should be a resume button. 
 If there is no resume button, it is because you aren't at the end of the 
recording, so hit play, fast forward or use the time selector to get to the 
end, and resume should be there. When you hit resume, simply double tapping 
will stop the recording, stop will turn into resume. If you are using 
headphones, the transitions will be seemless. Hit done when you are finished.  

If you want to add to a recording which you made in the past, you can. Start it 
playing, then get all the way to the end either with fast forward or by moving 
the time selector. Then hit, more actions, the edit button within more actions, 
and the resume button should be there. Hit done when finished.

Some day, I will work on how to trim these recordings with voice over.  I 
haven't figured that out yet. 

 

Arnold Schmidt 

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RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

I’m still trying to figure out how you stay on the pad while walking or jogging 
if there are not any handles.

 

James B 

 

 

From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

 

Hello Everyone,

 

With regard to walking pads, I have not yet purchased one.

 

I plan on doing so, this week.  I am still searching so if you have discovered 
a model that you find interesting, let us know.

 

One thing I will insist on is that my unit must have, at least, 2.5  horse 
power.  Anything less than 2.5 will simply not last long enough, based on how I 
intend to use the unit.

 

Mark

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

 

Many people install these under desks and walk while working or doing other 
tasks. Having it under the desk means you can pull it out slightly to use, but 
you still can touch the desk while walking to stay oriented.

Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.

Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com  

Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.

 

On Jun 1, 2024, at 11:08 PM, Richard mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

Good question.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
James Bentley
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

If these walking pads do not have a hand rail, how do you manage to stay on the 
pad?

James B 


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Richard
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Mark and all,

I found several walking pads on Amazon. The better options I found were priced 
from $200 and up to About $380. They all could be stored under a bed and one 
producer claimed their pad could be stored under a sofa. A couple had 
adjustable incline features.

A question for Mark and anyone else who might know. Even though those that send 
data to a  smart phone tracking app are at  a higher price point, are there any 
that are relatively easy to operate without vision? One walking pad used a 
remote control. I'm not sure about others.

I'm interested in a walking pad after learning about them from Mark, so will 
appreciate any help about their accessibility..


Richard Petty
richard.pe...@earthlink.net  




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From: M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> > On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 3:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions

Hello All,

1.
Well, I recently returned from a short vacation and during the trip, for the 
first time, I made extensive use of Air Tags.  I was delighted to discover that 
they work remarkably well.  However, to me, it seemed, that using the Find My 
app, with the Left Behind notification feature enabled, drain my battery a 
little faster than expected.  I don't know if this is exactly true because, 
during the journey, I did take more photos than normal and my screen brightness 
was set to a higher level in order for me to be able to see the phone's 
display, out in the sunlight.

2.
Someone, on list, suggested that she could not add a television series to her 
recorded list in Youtube TV for TVOS.  I just tested this feature on my Apple 
TV, and found that the feature functions as expected, when VoiceOver is enabled.

3.
One of the latest trends in home exercise is using a walking pad.
Essentially, a walking pad is a much smaller version of a treadmill.
Generally, the cost of a walking pad starts at around 140 USD.  Many of them 
require no assembly and do not have a handrail.  They are so very popular that, 
during my research, I discovered, at least, 30 brands with seemingly endless 
models.  As a former owner of over 12 full-size exercise devices including 
several very expensive commercial grade treadmills, which I used in order to 
achieve my various health goals many years ago, I have decided to purchase one 
of these walking pads.  For the record, although I thoroughly enjoyed my 
commercial grade devices, keeping those machines in proper order takes a great 
deal of tools, parts, and time (if one elects to maintain them by hand, as I 
did) or a great

RE: Transferring Files to a New Phone

2024-06-02 Thread Christopher Chaltain

Is this true? If you have enough space then you can include BARD in your 
backup. I assume when you restore your iPhone then you’d get your BARD books 
back again. Obviously, I won’t be testing this until I get a new iPhone. BTW, 
when you get a new iPhone, Apple will temporarily give you enough storage to 
back up your iPhone.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 11:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Transferring Files to a New Phone

Hi Steve. Bard books is something that won’t transfer over to a new mhone. The 
only thing you can do, is to redownload your books onto your new phone again. I 
know how annoying this is. Hoefully this will change sometime in the future.
Sent from My totally awesome iPhone!!


On Jun 2, 2024, at 3:19 AM, Arnold Schmidt 
mailto:als5...@gmail.com>> wrote:
When I did it last, in December 2022, neither my bard nor my kindle books 
transferred. My Voice Dream library did.

Arnold Schmidt

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3

On Jun 1, 2024, at 5:06 PM, Steve Matzura 
mailto:number6...@gmail.com>> wrote:


It's that time once again, and several iOS versions have gone by since last I 
even thought about this problem, but I am now in the process of getting data 
transferred to a new phone. Some applications, specifically BARD, have files 
that cannot be accessed through user-level applications like File or File 
Browser. So, is it possible to move lots and lots of BARD books from one device 
to another without having to re-download them? If so, can a user do it, or must 
it be done by an iOS technician at a store?
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Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

2024-06-02 Thread Dan



  
  
Actually, I was looking at them a few
minutes ago and saw one that boasts the walking speed of 6.5
mph.  Some will go a good walking speed.

  
Dan Beaver
  
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN) USA
On 6/2/2024 3:58 PM, Jody ianuzzi
  wrote:


  Hi Richard,
  
  
  It is my understanding that a walking pad is to be used with
a standing desk so that you can actually exercise while working
on your computer. I have heard that they have a maximum speed of
3 1/2 miles an hour. Since they're a lot easier than a treadmill
I would think they would be much more accessible.
  

  JODY
  

  To Boldly Go   
  

  

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  "What's within you is
  stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS  Erik
  Weihenmayer


  On Jun 1, 2024, at 11:08 PM, Richard
 wrote:

  


  Good question.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com
   On Behalf Of James
  Bentley
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and
  Questions - Walking Pads

If these walking pads do not have a hand rail, how do
  you manage to stay on the pad?

James B 


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com
   On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and
  Questions - Walking Pads

Mark and all,

I found several walking pads on Amazon. The better
  options I found were priced from $200 and up to About
  $380. They all could be stored under a bed and one
  producer claimed their pad could be stored under a sofa. A
  couple had adjustable incline features.

A question for Mark and anyone else who might know.
  Even though those that send data to a  smart phone
  tracking app are at  a higher price point, are there any
  that are relatively easy to operate without vision? One
  walking pad used a remote control. I'm not sure about
  others.

I'm interested in a walking pad after learning about
  them from Mark, so will appreciate any help about their
  accessibility..


Richard Petty
richard.pe...@earthlink.net




-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M.
  Taylor
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 3:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and
  Questions

Hello All,

1.
Well, I recently returned from a short vacation and
  during the trip, for the first time, I made extensive use
  of Air Tags.  I was delighted to discover that they work
  remarkably well.  However, to me, it seemed, that using
  the Find My app, with the Left Behind notification feature
  enabled, drain my battery a little faster than expected.
   I don't know if this is exactly true because, during the
  journey, I did take more photos than normal and my screen
  brightness was set to a higher level in order for me to be
  able to see the phone's display, out in the sunlight.

2.
Someone, on list, suggested that she could not add a
  television series to her recorded list in Youtube TV for
  TVOS.  I just tested this feature on my Apple TV, and
  found that the feature functions as expected, when
  VoiceOver is enabled.

3.
One of the latest trends in home exercise is using a
  walking pad.
Essentially, a walking pad is a much smaller version
  of a treadmill.
Generally, the cost of a walking pad starts at around
  140 USD.  Many of them require no assembly and do not have
  a handrail.  They are so very popular that, during my
  research, I discovered, at least, 30 brands with seemingly
  endless models.  As a former owner of over 12 full-size

Re: VDR and BKS not playing nice together

2024-06-02 Thread Alex Stone

I believe it’s supp...@voicedream.col

On Sun, 2 Jun 2024 at 21:27, regina alvarado 
wrote:

> Hi, is there a problem with voice dream reader and bookshare continuing? I
> no longer can download books.. Where do I write to Voice Dream? I am paying
> by the month. Thanks for any help you can give on this. I want to add my
> voice and urge them to fix this as I am paying for VDR and my subscription
> with Bookshare is current until November. Thanks again.
>
>
>
> Reggie Alvarado
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VDR and BKS not playing nice together

2024-06-02 Thread regina alvarado

Hi, is there a problem with voice dream reader and bookshare continuing? I no 
longer can download books.. Where do I write to Voice Dream? I am paying by the 
month. Thanks for any help you can give on this. I want to add my voice and 
urge them to fix this as I am paying for VDR and my subscription with Bookshare 
is current until November. Thanks again.



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Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

2024-06-02 Thread Esther Levegnale

hi, everyone, I am just wondering just what this unit is? It sounds kind of neat. Anyway, I hope all of you have a good day. Esther.Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!On Jun 2, 2024, at 3:43 PM, M. Taylor wrote:Hello Everyone, With regard to walking pads, I have not yet purchased one. I plan on doing so, this week. I am still searching so if you have discovered a model that you find interesting, let us know. One thing I will insist on is that my unit must have, at least, 2.5 horse power. Anything less than 2.5 will simply not last long enough, based on how I intend to use the unit. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Tai TomasiSent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:14 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads Many people install these under desks and walk while working or doing other tasks. Having it under the desk means you can pull it out slightly to use, but you still can touch the desk while walking to stay oriented.Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.Email: tai.toma...@gmail.comSent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors. On Jun 1, 2024, at 11:08 PM, Richard wrote:Good question.-Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of James BentleySent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:40 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking PadsIf these walking pads do not have a hand rail, how do you manage to stay on the pad?James B -Original Message-From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of RichardSent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:28 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking PadsMark and all,I found several walking pads on Amazon. The better options I found were priced from $200 and up to About $380. They all could be stored under a bed and one producer claimed their pad could be stored under a sofa. A couple had adjustable incline features.A question for Mark and anyone else who might know. Even though those that send data to a smart phone tracking app are at a higher price point, are there any that are relatively easy to operate without vision? One walking pad used a remote control. I'm not sure about others.I'm interested in a walking pad after learning about them from Mark, so will appreciate any help about their accessibility..Richard Pettyrichard.pe...@earthlink.net-Original Message-From: M. Taylor On Behalf Of M. TaylorSent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 3:34 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and QuestionsHello All,1.Well, I recently returned from a short vacation and during the trip, for the first time, I made extensive use of Air Tags. I was delighted to discover that they work remarkably well. However, to me, it seemed, that using the Find My app, with the Left Behind notification feature enabled, drain my battery a little faster than expected. I don't know if this is exactly true because, during the journey, I did take more photos than normal and my screen brightness was set to a higher level in order for me to be able to see the phone's display, out in the sunlight.2.Someone, on list, suggested that she could not add a television series to her recorded list in Youtube TV for TVOS. I just tested this feature on my Apple TV, and found that the feature functions as expected, when VoiceOver is enabled.3.One of the latest trends in home exercise is using a walking pad.Essentially, a walking pad is a much smaller version of a treadmill.Generally, the cost of a walking pad starts at around 140 USD. Many of them require no assembly and do not have a handrail. They are so very popular that, during my research, I discovered, at least, 30 brands with seemingly endless models. As a former owner of over 12 full-size exercise devices including several very expensive commercial grade treadmills, which I used in order to achieve my various health goals many years ago, I have decided to purchase one of these walking pads. For the record, although I thoroughly enjoyed my commercial grade devices, keeping those machines in proper order takes a great deal of tools, parts, and time (if one elects to maintain them by hand, as I did) or a great deal of money if one elects to have them serviced on a regular basis. One feature that I would like to have on my new walking pad is the ability to have all of the exercise statistics sent to the Apple Health app. So far, I have not found one that claims to do this. At least, I have not found one less than 1000 USD that has this feature. So, if you are using a walking pad or you discover one that has a smart app feature, let me know. Thank you.4.In my home office, I have an Apple TV that was connected to a 14 year old 21 inch television. For the past couple of years, because of

Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

2024-06-02 Thread Jody ianuzzi

Hi Richard,

It is my understanding that a walking pad is to be used with a standing desk so 
that you can actually exercise while working on your computer. I have heard 
that they have a maximum speed of 3 1/2 miles an hour. Since they're a lot 
easier than a treadmill I would think they would be much more accessible.
JODY

To Boldly Go   


thunderwalker...@gmail.com 

"What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS  Erik 
Weihenmayer

> On Jun 1, 2024, at 11:08 PM, Richard  wrote:
> 
> Good question.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of James 
> Bentley
> Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads
> 
> If these walking pads do not have a hand rail, how do you manage to stay on 
> the pad?
> 
> James B
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
> Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads
> 
> Mark and all,
> 
> I found several walking pads on Amazon. The better options I found were 
> priced from $200 and up to About $380. They all could be stored under a bed 
> and one producer claimed their pad could be stored under a sofa. A couple had 
> adjustable incline features.
> 
> A question for Mark and anyone else who might know. Even though those that 
> send data to a  smart phone tracking app are at  a higher price point, are 
> there any that are relatively easy to operate without vision? One walking pad 
> used a remote control. I'm not sure about others.
> 
> I'm interested in a walking pad after learning about them from Mark, so will 
> appreciate any help about their accessibility..
> 
> 
> Richard Petty
> richard.pe...@earthlink.net
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 3:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> 1.
> Well, I recently returned from a short vacation and during the trip, for the 
> first time, I made extensive use of Air Tags.  I was delighted to discover 
> that they work remarkably well.  However, to me, it seemed, that using the 
> Find My app, with the Left Behind notification feature enabled, drain my 
> battery a little faster than expected.  I don't know if this is exactly true 
> because, during the journey, I did take more photos than normal and my screen 
> brightness was set to a higher level in order for me to be able to see the 
> phone's display, out in the sunlight.
> 
> 2.
> Someone, on list, suggested that she could not add a television series to her 
> recorded list in Youtube TV for TVOS.  I just tested this feature on my Apple 
> TV, and found that the feature functions as expected, when VoiceOver is 
> enabled.
> 
> 3.
> One of the latest trends in home exercise is using a walking pad.
> Essentially, a walking pad is a much smaller version of a treadmill.
> Generally, the cost of a walking pad starts at around 140 USD.  Many of them 
> require no assembly and do not have a handrail.  They are so very popular 
> that, during my research, I discovered, at least, 30 brands with seemingly 
> endless models.  As a former owner of over 12 full-size exercise devices 
> including several very expensive commercial grade treadmills, which I used in 
> order to achieve my various health goals many years ago, I have decided to 
> purchase one of these walking pads.  For the record, although I thoroughly 
> enjoyed my commercial grade devices, keeping those machines in proper order 
> takes a great deal of tools, parts, and time (if one elects to maintain them 
> by hand, as I did) or a great deal of money if one elects to have them 
> serviced on a regular basis.  One feature that I would like to have on my new 
> walking pad is the ability to have all of the exercise statistics sent to the 
> Apple Health app.  So far, I have not found one that claims to do this.  At 
> least, I have not found one less than 1000 USD that has this feature.  So, if 
> you are using a walking pad or you discover one that has a smart app feature, 
> let me know.  Thank you.
> 
> 4.
> In my home office, I have an Apple TV that was connected to a 14 year old 21 
> inch television.  For the past couple of years, because of various reasons 
> that are not relative to this topic, the active scan feature of Apple TV did 
> not work with the set.  Basically, this means that the edges of the Apple TV 
> display went beyond the edge of the television's visible area.  Not a big 
> deal as I only use this set once or twice a year and when doing so, I mostly 
> listened to the content, rather than watched it.  Still, I have been 
> passively searching for a small form factor television to replace the old 
> one.  In my experience, it has

Re: for facebook app.

2024-06-02 Thread Chela Robles

I’ve tried reporting these problems with no success.Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 2, 2024, at 12:22 PM, alban hoxha  wrote:





can we report this problem?





From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Joseph hudson 
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2024 8:18:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: for facebook app.
 

Hi Alvin, for bug number one, just double tap on the link it will bring up the Lincoln question that is silent. It's not that there are no longer accessible, but where the link is it is silent. So you just have to double
 tap to figure out what it is. As far as the messenger bug. I don't really think that that bug went completely away. But maybe it will one day.


On Jun 2, 2024, at 6:01 AM, alban hoxha  wrote:




hi all.
facebook app on ios device can not read link title from news feed.
olsow can't access for add or axept friend request.
how can we solve this problem?








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RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

2024-06-02 Thread M. Taylor

Hello Everyone,

 

With regard to walking pads, I have not yet purchased one.

 

I plan on doing so, this week.  I am still searching so if you have discovered 
a model that you find interesting, let us know.

 

One thing I will insist on is that my unit must have, at least, 2.5  horse 
power.  Anything less than 2.5 will simply not last long enough, based on how I 
intend to use the unit.

 

Mark

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Tai 
Tomasi
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 8:14 PM
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Many people install these under desks and walk while working or doing other 
tasks. Having it under the desk means you can pull it out slightly to use, but 
you still can touch the desk while walking to stay oriented.

Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.

Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com  

Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.

 

On Jun 1, 2024, at 11:08 PM, Richard mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

Good question.

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If these walking pads do not have a hand rail, how do you manage to stay on the 
pad?

James B 


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Mark and all,

I found several walking pads on Amazon. The better options I found were priced 
from $200 and up to About $380. They all could be stored under a bed and one 
producer claimed their pad could be stored under a sofa. A couple had 
adjustable incline features.

A question for Mark and anyone else who might know. Even though those that send 
data to a  smart phone tracking app are at  a higher price point, are there any 
that are relatively easy to operate without vision? One walking pad used a 
remote control. I'm not sure about others.

I'm interested in a walking pad after learning about them from Mark, so will 
appreciate any help about their accessibility..


Richard Petty
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Hello All,

1.
Well, I recently returned from a short vacation and during the trip, for the 
first time, I made extensive use of Air Tags.  I was delighted to discover that 
they work remarkably well.  However, to me, it seemed, that using the Find My 
app, with the Left Behind notification feature enabled, drain my battery a 
little faster than expected.  I don't know if this is exactly true because, 
during the journey, I did take more photos than normal and my screen brightness 
was set to a higher level in order for me to be able to see the phone's 
display, out in the sunlight.

2.
Someone, on list, suggested that she could not add a television series to her 
recorded list in Youtube TV for TVOS.  I just tested this feature on my Apple 
TV, and found that the feature functions as expected, when VoiceOver is enabled.

3.
One of the latest trends in home exercise is using a walking pad.
Essentially, a walking pad is a much smaller version of a treadmill.
Generally, the cost of a walking pad starts at around 140 USD.  Many of them 
require no assembly and do not have a handrail.  They are so very popular that, 
during my research, I discovered, at least, 30 brands with seemingly endless 
models.  As a former owner of over 12 full-size exercise devices including 
several very expensive commercial grade treadmills, which I used in order to 
achieve my various health goals many years ago, I have decided to purchase one 
of these walking pads.  For the record, although I thoroughly enjoyed my 
commercial grade devices, keeping those machines in proper order takes a great 
deal of tools, parts, and time (if one elects to maintain them by hand, as I 
did) or a great deal of money if one elects to have them serviced on a regular 
basis.  One feature that I would like to have on my new walking pad is the 
ability to have all of the exercise statistics sent to the Apple Health app.  
So far, I have not found one that claims to do this.  At least, I have not 
found one less than 1000 USD that has this feature.  So, if you are using a 
walking pad or you discover one that has a smart

Re: for facebook app.

2024-06-02 Thread alban hoxha

can we report this problem?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Joseph 
hudson 
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Subject: Re: for facebook app.

Hi Alvin, for bug number one, just double tap on the link it will bring up the 
Lincoln question that is silent. It's not that there are no longer accessible, 
but where the link is it is silent. So you just have to double tap to figure 
out what it is. As far as the messenger bug. I don't really think that that bug 
went completely away. But maybe it will one day.

On Jun 2, 2024, at 6:01 AM, alban hoxha  wrote:

hi all.
facebook app on ios device can not read link title from news feed.
olsow can't access for add or axept friend request.
how can we solve this problem?

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Re: for facebook app.

2024-06-02 Thread Joseph hudson

Hi Alvin, for bug number one, just double tap on the link it will bring up the 
Lincoln question that is silent. It's not that there are no longer accessible, 
but where the link is it is silent. So you just have to double tap to figure 
out what it is. As far as the messenger bug. I don't really think that that bug 
went completely away. But maybe it will one day.

> On Jun 2, 2024, at 6:01 AM, alban hoxha  wrote:
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> hi all.
> facebook app on ios device can not read link title from news feed.
> olsow can't access for add or axept friend request.
> how can we solve this problem?
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Re: for facebook app.

2024-06-02 Thread Rafał Marzec

The accessibility problems with Facebook app I’ve noticed more than half a year ago and it seems that they don’t care anymoreSent from my iPhoneOn 2 Jun 2024, at 6:22 PM, Chela Robles  wrote:Yes, you nailed it and also may I add that reporting these things to Facebook is become very difficult. They say you can report these bugs to them by shaking the phone regarding the messenger issue. I tried that this morning and nothing happened after I pressed the continue button it landed me back to my home screen on my iPhone, which is weird, so there’s no way of getting a hold of anybody at Facebook to help them know what’s going on for screen reader users for both Facebook and messenger apps. There used to be some sort of accessibility team. I don’t know what’s going on with that since everything has changed and everything is metta now . Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 2, 2024, at 9:40 AM, Rafał Marzec  wrote:HiSo I’m not the only one who noticed these problemsIn my opinion since last half of year Facebook accessibility it gets worse and worseBasic things such as adding friend or removing is inaccessibleFacebook messenger has lost focus againNames on the links are also not accessibleThese problems exist since many months and it looks like they completely don’t careSent from my iPhoneOn 2 Jun 2024, at 3:26 PM, Chela Robles  wrote:Yeah, I’ve noticed that bug. I’ve also noticed the bug with Facebook messenger that loses focus and jumps you back anywhere in the message thread is also back so annoying. This is why I like using the Windows based messenger app for Facebook messenger until they fix the bug. I still use the regular Facebook website, as clunky as it can be, it’s doable. On the PC. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 2, 2024, at 4:01 AM, alban hoxha  wrote:





hi all.
facebook app on ios device can not read link title from news feed.
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Re: for facebook app.

2024-06-02 Thread Chela Robles

Yes, you nailed it and also may I add that reporting these things to Facebook is become very difficult. They say you can report these bugs to them by shaking the phone regarding the messenger issue. I tried that this morning and nothing happened after I pressed the continue button it landed me back to my home screen on my iPhone, which is weird, so there’s no way of getting a hold of anybody at Facebook to help them know what’s going on for screen reader users for both Facebook and messenger apps. There used to be some sort of accessibility team. I don’t know what’s going on with that since everything has changed and everything is metta now . Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 2, 2024, at 9:40 AM, Rafał Marzec  wrote:HiSo I’m not the only one who noticed these problemsIn my opinion since last half of year Facebook accessibility it gets worse and worseBasic things such as adding friend or removing is inaccessibleFacebook messenger has lost focus againNames on the links are also not accessibleThese problems exist since many months and it looks like they completely don’t careSent from my iPhoneOn 2 Jun 2024, at 3:26 PM, Chela Robles  wrote:Yeah, I’ve noticed that bug. I’ve also noticed the bug with Facebook messenger that loses focus and jumps you back anywhere in the message thread is also back so annoying. This is why I like using the Windows based messenger app for Facebook messenger until they fix the bug. I still use the regular Facebook website, as clunky as it can be, it’s doable. On the PC. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 2, 2024, at 4:01 AM, alban hoxha  wrote:





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facebook app on ios device can not read link title from news feed.
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Re: for facebook app.

2024-06-02 Thread Rafał Marzec

HiSo I’m not the only one who noticed these problemsIn my opinion since last half of year Facebook accessibility it gets worse and worseBasic things such as adding friend or removing is inaccessibleFacebook messenger has lost focus againNames on the links are also not accessibleThese problems exist since many months and it looks like they completely don’t careSent from my iPhoneOn 2 Jun 2024, at 3:26 PM, Chela Robles  wrote:Yeah, I’ve noticed that bug. I’ve also noticed the bug with Facebook messenger that loses focus and jumps you back anywhere in the message thread is also back so annoying. This is why I like using the Windows based messenger app for Facebook messenger until they fix the bug. I still use the regular Facebook website, as clunky as it can be, it’s doable. On the PC. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 2, 2024, at 4:01 AM, alban hoxha  wrote:





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Re: Transferring Files to a New Phone

2024-06-02 Thread Joshua Hendrickson

Hi Steve. Bard books is something that won’t transfer over to a new mhone. The only thing you can do, is to redownload your books onto your new phone again. I know how annoying this is. Hoefully this will change sometime in the future.Sent from My totally awesome iPhone!!On Jun 2, 2024, at 3:19 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:When I did it last, in December 2022, neither my bard nor my kindle books transferred. My Voice Dream library did. Arnold Schmidt Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3On Jun 1, 2024, at 5:06 PM, Steve Matzura  wrote:

  


  
  
It's that time once again, and several iOS versions have gone by
  since last I even thought about this problem, but I am now in the
  process of getting data transferred to a new phone. Some
  applications, specifically BARD, have files that cannot be
  accessed through user-level applications like File or File
  Browser. So, is it possible to move lots and lots of BARD books
  from one device to another without having to re-download them? If
  so, can a user do it, or must it be done by an iOS technician at a
  store?

  




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Re: for facebook app.

2024-06-02 Thread Chela Robles

Yeah, I’ve noticed that bug. I’ve also noticed the bug with Facebook messenger that loses focus and jumps you back anywhere in the message thread is also back so annoying. This is why I like using the Windows based messenger app for Facebook messenger until they fix the bug. I still use the regular Facebook website, as clunky as it can be, it’s doable. On the PC. Sent from my iPhoneOn Jun 2, 2024, at 4:01 AM, alban hoxha  wrote:





hi all.
facebook app on ios device can not read link title from news feed.
olsow can't access for add or axept friend request.
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for facebook app.

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hi all.
facebook app on ios device can not read link title from news feed.
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Re: Transferring Files to a New Phone

2024-06-02 Thread Arnold Schmidt

When I did it last, in December 2022, neither my bard nor my kindle books transferred. My Voice Dream library did. Arnold Schmidt Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3On Jun 1, 2024, at 5:06 PM, Steve Matzura  wrote:

  


  
  
It's that time once again, and several iOS versions have gone by
  since last I even thought about this problem, but I am now in the
  process of getting data transferred to a new phone. Some
  applications, specifically BARD, have files that cannot be
  accessed through user-level applications like File or File
  Browser. So, is it possible to move lots and lots of BARD books
  from one device to another without having to re-download them? If
  so, can a user do it, or must it be done by an iOS technician at a
  store?

  




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Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

2024-06-01 Thread Tai Tomasi

Many people install these under desks and walk while working or doing other 
tasks. Having it under the desk means you can pull it out slightly to use, but 
you still can touch the desk while walking to stay oriented.
Tai Tomasi, J.D., M.P.A.
Email: tai.toma...@gmail.com
Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse my brevity and any grammatical errors.

> On Jun 1, 2024, at 11:08 PM, Richard  wrote:
> 
> Good question.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of James 
> Bentley
> Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads
> 
> If these walking pads do not have a hand rail, how do you manage to stay on 
> the pad?
> 
> James B
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
> Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:28 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads
> 
> Mark and all,
> 
> I found several walking pads on Amazon. The better options I found were 
> priced from $200 and up to About $380. They all could be stored under a bed 
> and one producer claimed their pad could be stored under a sofa. A couple had 
> adjustable incline features.
> 
> A question for Mark and anyone else who might know. Even though those that 
> send data to a  smart phone tracking app are at  a higher price point, are 
> there any that are relatively easy to operate without vision? One walking pad 
> used a remote control. I'm not sure about others.
> 
> I'm interested in a walking pad after learning about them from Mark, so will 
> appreciate any help about their accessibility..
> 
> 
> Richard Petty
> richard.pe...@earthlink.net
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 3:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> 1.
> Well, I recently returned from a short vacation and during the trip, for the 
> first time, I made extensive use of Air Tags.  I was delighted to discover 
> that they work remarkably well.  However, to me, it seemed, that using the 
> Find My app, with the Left Behind notification feature enabled, drain my 
> battery a little faster than expected.  I don't know if this is exactly true 
> because, during the journey, I did take more photos than normal and my screen 
> brightness was set to a higher level in order for me to be able to see the 
> phone's display, out in the sunlight.
> 
> 2.
> Someone, on list, suggested that she could not add a television series to her 
> recorded list in Youtube TV for TVOS.  I just tested this feature on my Apple 
> TV, and found that the feature functions as expected, when VoiceOver is 
> enabled.
> 
> 3.
> One of the latest trends in home exercise is using a walking pad.
> Essentially, a walking pad is a much smaller version of a treadmill.
> Generally, the cost of a walking pad starts at around 140 USD.  Many of them 
> require no assembly and do not have a handrail.  They are so very popular 
> that, during my research, I discovered, at least, 30 brands with seemingly 
> endless models.  As a former owner of over 12 full-size exercise devices 
> including several very expensive commercial grade treadmills, which I used in 
> order to achieve my various health goals many years ago, I have decided to 
> purchase one of these walking pads.  For the record, although I thoroughly 
> enjoyed my commercial grade devices, keeping those machines in proper order 
> takes a great deal of tools, parts, and time (if one elects to maintain them 
> by hand, as I did) or a great deal of money if one elects to have them 
> serviced on a regular basis.  One feature that I would like to have on my new 
> walking pad is the ability to have all of the exercise statistics sent to the 
> Apple Health app.  So far, I have not found one that claims to do this.  At 
> least, I have not found one less than 1000 USD that has this feature.  So, if 
> you are using a walking pad or you discover one that has a smart app feature, 
> let me know.  Thank you.
> 
> 4.
> In my home office, I have an Apple TV that was connected to a 14 year old 21 
> inch television.  For the past couple of years, because of various reasons 
> that are not relative to this topic, the active scan feature of Apple TV did 
> not work with the set.  Basically, this means that the edges of the Apple TV 
> display went beyond the edge of the television's visible area.  Not a big 
> deal as I only use this set once or twice a year and when doing so, I mostly 
> listened to the content, rather than watched it.  Still, I have been 
> passively searching for a small form factor television to replace the old 
> one.  In my experience, it has been almost impossible to locate a new, modern 
> technology television, that is smaller than 24 inches.  I had almost

RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

2024-06-01 Thread Richard

Good question.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of James 
Bentley
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

If these walking pads do not have a hand rail, how do you manage to stay on the 
pad?

James B 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Mark and all,

I found several walking pads on Amazon. The better options I found were priced 
from $200 and up to About $380. They all could be stored under a bed and one 
producer claimed their pad could be stored under a sofa. A couple had 
adjustable incline features.

A question for Mark and anyone else who might know. Even though those that send 
data to a  smart phone tracking app are at  a higher price point, are there any 
that are relatively easy to operate without vision? One walking pad used a 
remote control. I'm not sure about others.

I'm interested in a walking pad after learning about them from Mark, so will 
appreciate any help about their accessibility..

Richard Petty
richard.pe...@earthlink.net

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 3:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions

Hello All,

1.
Well, I recently returned from a short vacation and during the trip, for the 
first time, I made extensive use of Air Tags.  I was delighted to discover that 
they work remarkably well.  However, to me, it seemed, that using the Find My 
app, with the Left Behind notification feature enabled, drain my battery a 
little faster than expected.  I don't know if this is exactly true because, 
during the journey, I did take more photos than normal and my screen brightness 
was set to a higher level in order for me to be able to see the phone's 
display, out in the sunlight.

2.
Someone, on list, suggested that she could not add a television series to her 
recorded list in Youtube TV for TVOS.  I just tested this feature on my Apple 
TV, and found that the feature functions as expected, when VoiceOver is enabled.

3.
One of the latest trends in home exercise is using a walking pad.
Essentially, a walking pad is a much smaller version of a treadmill.
Generally, the cost of a walking pad starts at around 140 USD.  Many of them 
require no assembly and do not have a handrail.  They are so very popular that, 
during my research, I discovered, at least, 30 brands with seemingly endless 
models.  As a former owner of over 12 full-size exercise devices including 
several very expensive commercial grade treadmills, which I used in order to 
achieve my various health goals many years ago, I have decided to purchase one 
of these walking pads.  For the record, although I thoroughly enjoyed my 
commercial grade devices, keeping those machines in proper order takes a great 
deal of tools, parts, and time (if one elects to maintain them by hand, as I 
did) or a great deal of money if one elects to have them serviced on a regular 
basis.  One feature that I would like to have on my new walking pad is the 
ability to have all of the exercise statistics sent to the Apple Health app.  
So far, I have not found one that claims to do this.  At least, I have not 
found one less than 1000 USD that has this feature.  So, if you are using a 
walking pad or you discover one that has a smart app feature, let me know.  
Thank you.

4.
In my home office, I have an Apple TV that was connected to a 14 year old 21 
inch television.  For the past couple of years, because of various reasons that 
are not relative to this topic, the active scan feature of Apple TV did not 
work with the set.  Basically, this means that the edges of the Apple TV 
display went beyond the edge of the television's visible area.  Not a big deal 
as I only use this set once or twice a year and when doing so, I mostly 
listened to the content, rather than watched it.  Still, I have been passively 
searching for a small form factor television to replace the old one.  In my 
experience, it has been almost impossible to locate a new, modern technology 
television, that is smaller than 24 inches.  I had almost given up when, in my 
local Best Buy store, a couple of days ago, we spotted an area of the store 
filled with Insignia branded televisions.  Insignia is Best Buy's house brand.  
Guess what?  They have and I purchased a 19 inch model for 49 USD, before tax.  
The biggest surprised? when I powered on the unit for the first time, a screen 
reader asked if I wanted to leave the screen reader on or turn it off.  This is 
a marvelous little set that offers anything you could want in a television; 
including a built-in screen reader.
So, if you're in the market for a tiny TV that works

RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions

2024-06-01 Thread janet gross

Hello Mark,

I have the same questions as Louise about the walking pads, that sounds quite 
interesting.
I've never heard of them, and would greatly appreciate  if you would please 
share a little more with us.
I ride a exercise bike each day, but some times it is time consuming for 
repairs.
I love to exercise, so that is another reason I would appreciate if you would 
share a little more about those walking pads.


Thank you so much,

Kindly,

Janet

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Louise 
Peyton
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 4:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions

Mark:
Please describe the walking pad.  I have never been exposed to one but sure 
would find the exercise helpful.  How big is it?  What features does it have?  
Is it electric?  Thanks.
Louise Peyton

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 4:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions

Hello All,

1.
Well, I recently returned from a short vacation and during the trip, for the 
first time, I made extensive use of Air Tags.  I was delighted to discover that 
they work remarkably well.  However, to me, it seemed, that using the Find My 
app, with the Left Behind notification feature enabled, drain my battery a 
little faster than expected.  I don't know if this is exactly true because, 
during the journey, I did take more photos than normal and my screen brightness 
was set to a higher level in order for me to be able to see the phone's 
display, out in the sunlight.

2.
Someone, on list, suggested that she could not add a television series to her 
recorded list in Youtube TV for TVOS.  I just tested this feature on my Apple 
TV, and found that the feature functions as expected, when VoiceOver is enabled.

3.
One of the latest trends in home exercise is using a walking pad.
Essentially, a walking pad is a much smaller version of a treadmill.
Generally, the cost of a walking pad starts at around 140 USD.  Many of them 
require no assembly and do not have a handrail.  They are so very popular that, 
during my research, I discovered, at least, 30 brands with seemingly endless 
models.  As a former owner of over 12 full-size exercise devices including 
several very expensive commercial grade treadmills, which I used in order to 
achieve my various health goals many years ago, I have decided to purchase one 
of these walking pads.  For the record, although I thoroughly enjoyed my 
commercial grade devices, keeping those machines in proper order takes a great 
deal of tools, parts, and time (if one elects to maintain them by hand, as I 
did) or a great deal of money if one elects to have them serviced on a regular 
basis.  One feature that I would like to have on my new walking pad is the 
ability to have all of the exercise statistics sent to the Apple Health app.  
So far, I have not found one that claims to do this.  At least, I have not 
found one less than 1000 USD that has this feature.  So, if you are using a 
walking pad or you discover one that has a smart app feature, let me know.  
Thank you.

4.
In my home office, I have an Apple TV that was connected to a 14 year old 21 
inch television.  For the past couple of years, because of various reasons that 
are not relative to this topic, the active scan feature of Apple TV did not 
work with the set.  Basically, this means that the edges of the Apple TV 
display went beyond the edge of the television's visible area.  Not a big deal 
as I only use this set once or twice a year and when doing so, I mostly 
listened to the content, rather than watched it.  Still, I have been passively 
searching for a small form factor television to replace the old one.  In my 
experience, it has been almost impossible to locate a new, modern technology 
television, that is smaller than 24 inches.  I had almost given up when, in my 
local Best Buy store, a couple of days ago, we spotted an area of the store 
filled with Insignia branded televisions.  Insignia is Best Buy's house brand.  
Guess what?  They have and I purchased a 19 inch model for 49 USD, before tax.  
The biggest surprised? when I powered on the unit for the first time, a screen 
reader asked if I wanted to leave the screen reader on or turn it off.  This is 
a marvelous little set that offers anything you could want in a television; 
including a built-in screen reader.
So, if you're in the market for a tiny TV that works beautifully with Apple TV, 
give the Insignia models a try.

Okay, I think that's all for now.

I hope you are all doing well and I look forward to any and all replies.

Mark


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RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

2024-06-01 Thread James Bentley

If these walking pads do not have a hand rail, how do you manage to stay on the 
pad?

James B 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 7:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

Mark and all,

I found several walking pads on Amazon. The better options I found were priced 
from $200 and up to About $380. They all could be stored under a bed and one 
producer claimed their pad could be stored under a sofa. A couple had 
adjustable incline features.

A question for Mark and anyone else who might know. Even though those that send 
data to a  smart phone tracking app are at  a higher price point, are there any 
that are relatively easy to operate without vision? One walking pad used a 
remote control. I'm not sure about others.

I'm interested in a walking pad after learning about them from Mark, so will 
appreciate any help about their accessibility..

Richard Petty
richard.pe...@earthlink.net

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 3:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions

Hello All,

1.
Well, I recently returned from a short vacation and during the trip, for the 
first time, I made extensive use of Air Tags.  I was delighted to discover that 
they work remarkably well.  However, to me, it seemed, that using the Find My 
app, with the Left Behind notification feature enabled, drain my battery a 
little faster than expected.  I don't know if this is exactly true because, 
during the journey, I did take more photos than normal and my screen brightness 
was set to a higher level in order for me to be able to see the phone's 
display, out in the sunlight.

2.
Someone, on list, suggested that she could not add a television series to her 
recorded list in Youtube TV for TVOS.  I just tested this feature on my Apple 
TV, and found that the feature functions as expected, when VoiceOver is enabled.

3.
One of the latest trends in home exercise is using a walking pad.
Essentially, a walking pad is a much smaller version of a treadmill.
Generally, the cost of a walking pad starts at around 140 USD.  Many of them 
require no assembly and do not have a handrail.  They are so very popular that, 
during my research, I discovered, at least, 30 brands with seemingly endless 
models.  As a former owner of over 12 full-size exercise devices including 
several very expensive commercial grade treadmills, which I used in order to 
achieve my various health goals many years ago, I have decided to purchase one 
of these walking pads.  For the record, although I thoroughly enjoyed my 
commercial grade devices, keeping those machines in proper order takes a great 
deal of tools, parts, and time (if one elects to maintain them by hand, as I 
did) or a great deal of money if one elects to have them serviced on a regular 
basis.  One feature that I would like to have on my new walking pad is the 
ability to have all of the exercise statistics sent to the Apple Health app.  
So far, I have not found one that claims to do this.  At least, I have not 
found one less than 1000 USD that has this feature.  So, if you are using a 
walking pad or you discover one that has a smart app feature, let me know.  
Thank you.

4.
In my home office, I have an Apple TV that was connected to a 14 year old 21 
inch television.  For the past couple of years, because of various reasons that 
are not relative to this topic, the active scan feature of Apple TV did not 
work with the set.  Basically, this means that the edges of the Apple TV 
display went beyond the edge of the television's visible area.  Not a big deal 
as I only use this set once or twice a year and when doing so, I mostly 
listened to the content, rather than watched it.  Still, I have been passively 
searching for a small form factor television to replace the old one.  In my 
experience, it has been almost impossible to locate a new, modern technology 
television, that is smaller than 24 inches.  I had almost given up when, in my 
local Best Buy store, a couple of days ago, we spotted an area of the store 
filled with Insignia branded televisions.  Insignia is Best Buy's house brand.  
Guess what?  They have and I purchased a 19 inch model for 49 USD, before tax.  
The biggest surprised? when I powered on the unit for the first time, a screen 
reader asked if I wanted to leave the screen reader on or turn it off.  This is 
a marvelous little set that offers anything you could want in a television; 
including a built-in screen reader.
So, if you're in the market for a tiny TV that works beautifully with Apple TV, 
give the Insignia models a try.

Okay, I think that's all for now.

I hope you are all doing well and I look forward to any and all replies.

Mark

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RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions

2024-06-01 Thread James Bentley

I wonder if the screen reader isn't "Voice View?"  My Insignia  and Amazon Fire 
edition tv's both use Voice View.  I think that the menus on both TV's are 
identical.

James B 


-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 6:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions

Hello Mary,

I am certain that the model I purchased is not an Amazon TV for the screen 
reader is definitely not Alexa.

Based on the model's UI, I suspect that the OS is some variant of Android.

Mark

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 3:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions

Hi Mark,
I’m really curious what screen reader is in that TV. That is to say, what 
operating system is it running? I was thinking maybe it’s running Alexa and the 
Amazon system, because I know insignia did or does make some Amazon TV. So 
might it be that?
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 1, 2024, at 2:49 PM, Louise Peyton  wrote:
> 
> Mark:
> Please describe the walking pad.  I have never been exposed to one but sure 
> would find the exercise helpful.  How big is it?  What features does it have? 
>  Is it electric?  Thanks.
> Louise Peyton
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 4:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> 1.
> Well, I recently returned from a short vacation and during the trip, for the 
> first time, I made extensive use of Air Tags.  I was delighted to discover 
> that they work remarkably well.  However, to me, it seemed, that using the 
> Find My app, with the Left Behind notification feature enabled, drain my 
> battery a little faster than expected.  I don't know if this is exactly true 
> because, during the journey, I did take more photos than normal and my screen 
> brightness was set to a higher level in order for me to be able to see the 
> phone's display, out in the sunlight.
> 
> 2.
> Someone, on list, suggested that she could not add a television series to her 
> recorded list in Youtube TV for TVOS.  I just tested this feature on my Apple 
> TV, and found that the feature functions as expected, when VoiceOver is 
> enabled.
> 
> 3.
> One of the latest trends in home exercise is using a walking pad.
> Essentially, a walking pad is a much smaller version of a treadmill.
> Generally, the cost of a walking pad starts at around 140 USD.  Many of them 
> require no assembly and do not have a handrail.  They are so very popular 
> that, during my research, I discovered, at least, 30 brands with seemingly 
> endless models.  As a former owner of over 12 full-size exercise devices 
> including several very expensive commercial grade treadmills, which I used in 
> order to achieve my various health goals many years ago, I have decided to 
> purchase one of these walking pads.  For the record, although I thoroughly 
> enjoyed my commercial grade devices, keeping those machines in proper order 
> takes a great deal of tools, parts, and time (if one elects to maintain them 
> by hand, as I did) or a great deal of money if one elects to have them 
> serviced on a regular basis.  One feature that I would like to have on my new 
> walking pad is the ability to have all of the exercise statistics sent to the 
> Apple Health app.  So far, I have not found one that claims to do this.  At 
> least, I have not found one less than 1000 USD that has this feature.  So, if 
> you are using a walking pad or you discover one that has a smart app feature, 
> let me know.  Thank you.
> 
> 4.
> In my home office, I have an Apple TV that was connected to a 14 year old 21 
> inch television.  For the past couple of years, because of various reasons 
> that are not relative to this topic, the active scan feature of Apple TV did 
> not work with the set.  Basically, this means that the edges of the Apple TV 
> display went beyond the edge of the television's visible area.  Not a big 
> deal as I only use this set once or twice a year and when doing so, I mostly 
> listened to the content, rather than watched it.  Still, I have been 
> passively searching for a small form factor television to replace the old 
> one.  In my experience, it has been almost impossible to locate a new, modern 
> technology television, that is smaller than 24 inches.  I had almost given up 
> when, in my local Best Buy store, a couple of days ago, we spotted an area of 
> the store filled with Insignia branded televisions.  Insignia is Best Buy's 
> house brand.  Guess what?  They have and I purchased a 19 inch model for 49 
> USD, before tax.  The biggest surprised? when I powered on the unit for the 
> first time, a screen reader asked if I wanted to leave the screen reader on 
> or turn it off.  This is a

RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions - Walking Pads

2024-06-01 Thread Richard

Mark and all,

I found several walking pads on Amazon. The better options I found were priced 
from $200 and up to About $380. They all could be stored under a bed and one 
producer claimed their pad could be stored under a sofa. A couple had 
adjustable incline features.

A question for Mark and anyone else who might know. Even though those that send 
data to a  smart phone tracking app are at  a higher price point, are there any 
that are relatively easy to operate without vision? One walking pad used a 
remote control. I'm not sure about others.

I'm interested in a walking pad after learning about them from Mark, so will 
appreciate any help about their accessibility..


Richard Petty
richard.pe...@earthlink.net




-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 3:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions

Hello All,

1.
Well, I recently returned from a short vacation and during the trip, for the 
first time, I made extensive use of Air Tags.  I was delighted to discover that 
they work remarkably well.  However, to me, it seemed, that using the Find My 
app, with the Left Behind notification feature enabled, drain my battery a 
little faster than expected.  I don't know if this is exactly true because, 
during the journey, I did take more photos than normal and my screen brightness 
was set to a higher level in order for me to be able to see the phone's 
display, out in the sunlight.

2.
Someone, on list, suggested that she could not add a television series to her 
recorded list in Youtube TV for TVOS.  I just tested this feature on my Apple 
TV, and found that the feature functions as expected, when VoiceOver is enabled.

3.
One of the latest trends in home exercise is using a walking pad.
Essentially, a walking pad is a much smaller version of a treadmill.
Generally, the cost of a walking pad starts at around 140 USD.  Many of them 
require no assembly and do not have a handrail.  They are so very popular that, 
during my research, I discovered, at least, 30 brands with seemingly endless 
models.  As a former owner of over 12 full-size exercise devices including 
several very expensive commercial grade treadmills, which I used in order to 
achieve my various health goals many years ago, I have decided to purchase one 
of these walking pads.  For the record, although I thoroughly enjoyed my 
commercial grade devices, keeping those machines in proper order takes a great 
deal of tools, parts, and time (if one elects to maintain them by hand, as I 
did) or a great deal of money if one elects to have them serviced on a regular 
basis.  One feature that I would like to have on my new walking pad is the 
ability to have all of the exercise statistics sent to the Apple Health app.  
So far, I have not found one that claims to do this.  At least, I have not 
found one less than 1000 USD that has this feature.  So, if you are using a 
walking pad or you discover one that has a smart app feature, let me know.  
Thank you.

4.
In my home office, I have an Apple TV that was connected to a 14 year old 21 
inch television.  For the past couple of years, because of various reasons that 
are not relative to this topic, the active scan feature of Apple TV did not 
work with the set.  Basically, this means that the edges of the Apple TV 
display went beyond the edge of the television's visible area.  Not a big deal 
as I only use this set once or twice a year and when doing so, I mostly 
listened to the content, rather than watched it.  Still, I have been passively 
searching for a small form factor television to replace the old one.  In my 
experience, it has been almost impossible to locate a new, modern technology 
television, that is smaller than 24 inches.  I had almost given up when, in my 
local Best Buy store, a couple of days ago, we spotted an area of the store 
filled with Insignia branded televisions.  Insignia is Best Buy's house brand.  
Guess what?  They have and I purchased a 19 inch model for 49 USD, before tax.  
The biggest surprised? when I powered on the unit for the first time, a screen 
reader asked if I wanted to leave the screen reader on or turn it off.  This is 
a marvelous little set that offers anything you could want in a television; 
including a built-in screen reader.
So, if you're in the market for a tiny TV that works beautifully with Apple TV, 
give the Insignia models a try.

Okay, I think that's all for now.

I hope you are all doing well and I look forward to any and all replies.

Mark


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RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions

2024-06-01 Thread M. Taylor

Hello Mary,

I am certain that the model I purchased is not an Amazon TV for the screen 
reader is definitely not Alexa.

Based on the model's UI, I suspect that the OS is some variant of Android.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 3:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions

Hi Mark,
I’m really curious what screen reader is in that TV. That is to say, what 
operating system is it running? I was thinking maybe it’s running Alexa and the 
Amazon system, because I know insignia did or does make some Amazon TV. So 
might it be that?
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 1, 2024, at 2:49 PM, Louise Peyton  wrote:
> 
> Mark:
> Please describe the walking pad.  I have never been exposed to one but sure 
> would find the exercise helpful.  How big is it?  What features does it have? 
>  Is it electric?  Thanks.
> Louise Peyton
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 4:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> 1.
> Well, I recently returned from a short vacation and during the trip, for the 
> first time, I made extensive use of Air Tags.  I was delighted to discover 
> that they work remarkably well.  However, to me, it seemed, that using the 
> Find My app, with the Left Behind notification feature enabled, drain my 
> battery a little faster than expected.  I don't know if this is exactly true 
> because, during the journey, I did take more photos than normal and my screen 
> brightness was set to a higher level in order for me to be able to see the 
> phone's display, out in the sunlight.
> 
> 2.
> Someone, on list, suggested that she could not add a television series to her 
> recorded list in Youtube TV for TVOS.  I just tested this feature on my Apple 
> TV, and found that the feature functions as expected, when VoiceOver is 
> enabled.
> 
> 3.
> One of the latest trends in home exercise is using a walking pad.
> Essentially, a walking pad is a much smaller version of a treadmill.
> Generally, the cost of a walking pad starts at around 140 USD.  Many of them 
> require no assembly and do not have a handrail.  They are so very popular 
> that, during my research, I discovered, at least, 30 brands with seemingly 
> endless models.  As a former owner of over 12 full-size exercise devices 
> including several very expensive commercial grade treadmills, which I used in 
> order to achieve my various health goals many years ago, I have decided to 
> purchase one of these walking pads.  For the record, although I thoroughly 
> enjoyed my commercial grade devices, keeping those machines in proper order 
> takes a great deal of tools, parts, and time (if one elects to maintain them 
> by hand, as I did) or a great deal of money if one elects to have them 
> serviced on a regular basis.  One feature that I would like to have on my new 
> walking pad is the ability to have all of the exercise statistics sent to the 
> Apple Health app.  So far, I have not found one that claims to do this.  At 
> least, I have not found one less than 1000 USD that has this feature.  So, if 
> you are using a walking pad or you discover one that has a smart app feature, 
> let me know.  Thank you.
> 
> 4.
> In my home office, I have an Apple TV that was connected to a 14 year old 21 
> inch television.  For the past couple of years, because of various reasons 
> that are not relative to this topic, the active scan feature of Apple TV did 
> not work with the set.  Basically, this means that the edges of the Apple TV 
> display went beyond the edge of the television's visible area.  Not a big 
> deal as I only use this set once or twice a year and when doing so, I mostly 
> listened to the content, rather than watched it.  Still, I have been 
> passively searching for a small form factor television to replace the old 
> one.  In my experience, it has been almost impossible to locate a new, modern 
> technology television, that is smaller than 24 inches.  I had almost given up 
> when, in my local Best Buy store, a couple of days ago, we spotted an area of 
> the store filled with Insignia branded televisions.  Insignia is Best Buy's 
> house brand.  Guess what?  They have and I purchased a 19 inch model for 49 
> USD, before tax.  The biggest surprised? when I powered on the unit for the 
> first time, a screen reader asked if I wanted to leave the screen reader on 
> or turn it off.  This is a marvelous little set that offers anything you 
> could want in a television; including a built-in screen reader.
> So, if you're in the market for a tiny TV that works beautifully with Apple 
> TV, give the Insignia models a try.
> 
> Okay, I think that's all for now.
> 
> I hope you are all doing well and I look forward to any and all replies.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> --
> The

Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions

2024-06-01 Thread Esther Levegnale

hi, Mark, I never heard of a walking pad but it sounds very interesting. I 
exercise twice a day on my elliptical trainer which I have had since 2004 and 
it is still working like a charm. Anyway, take care and have a fabulous rest of 
the day. Esther.
Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On Jun 1, 2024, at 4:34 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> 1.
> Well, I recently returned from a short vacation and during the trip, for the
> first time, I made extensive use of Air Tags.  I was delighted to discover
> that they work remarkably well.  However, to me, it seemed, that using the
> Find My app, with the Left Behind notification feature enabled, drain my
> battery a little faster than expected.  I don't know if this is exactly true
> because, during the journey, I did take more photos than normal and my
> screen brightness was set to a higher level in order for me to be able to
> see the phone's display, out in the sunlight.
> 
> 2.
> Someone, on list, suggested that she could not add a television series to
> her recorded list in Youtube TV for TVOS.  I just tested this feature on my
> Apple TV, and found that the feature functions as expected, when VoiceOver
> is enabled.
> 
> 3.
> One of the latest trends in home exercise is using a walking pad.
> Essentially, a walking pad is a much smaller version of a treadmill.
> Generally, the cost of a walking pad starts at around 140 USD.  Many of them
> require no assembly and do not have a handrail.  They are so very popular
> that, during my research, I discovered, at least, 30 brands with seemingly
> endless models.  As a former owner of over 12 full-size exercise devices
> including several very expensive commercial grade treadmills, which I used
> in order to achieve my various health goals many years ago, I have decided
> to purchase one of these walking pads.  For the record, although I
> thoroughly enjoyed my commercial grade devices, keeping those machines in
> proper order takes a great deal of tools, parts, and time (if one elects to
> maintain them by hand, as I did) or a great deal of money if one elects to
> have them serviced on a regular basis.  One feature that I would like to
> have on my new walking pad is the ability to have all of the exercise
> statistics sent to the Apple Health app.  So far, I have not found one that
> claims to do this.  At least, I have not found one less than 1000 USD that
> has this feature.  So, if you are using a walking pad or you discover one
> that has a smart app feature, let me know.  Thank you.
> 
> 4.
> In my home office, I have an Apple TV that was connected to a 14 year old 21
> inch television.  For the past couple of years, because of various reasons
> that are not relative to this topic, the active scan feature of Apple TV did
> not work with the set.  Basically, this means that the edges of the Apple TV
> display went beyond the edge of the television's visible area.  Not a big
> deal as I only use this set once or twice a year and when doing so, I mostly
> listened to the content, rather than watched it.  Still, I have been
> passively searching for a small form factor television to replace the old
> one.  In my experience, it has been almost impossible to locate a new,
> modern technology television, that is smaller than 24 inches.  I had almost
> given up when, in my local Best Buy store, a couple of days ago, we spotted
> an area of the store filled with Insignia branded televisions.  Insignia is
> Best Buy's house brand.  Guess what?  They have and I purchased a 19 inch
> model for 49 USD, before tax.  The biggest surprised? when I powered on the
> unit for the first time, a screen reader asked if I wanted to leave the
> screen reader on or turn it off.  This is a marvelous little set that offers
> anything you could want in a television; including a built-in screen reader.
> So, if you're in the market for a tiny TV that works beautifully with Apple
> TV, give the Insignia models a try.
> 
> Okay, I think that's all for now.
> 
> I hope you are all doing well and I look forward to any and all replies.
> 
> Mark
> 
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Re: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions

2024-06-01 Thread Mary Otten

Hi Mark,
I’m really curious what screen reader is in that TV. That is to say, what 
operating system is it running? I was thinking maybe it’s running Alexa and the 
Amazon system, because I know insignia did or does make some Amazon TV. So 
might it be that?
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 1, 2024, at 2:49 PM, Louise Peyton  wrote:
> 
> Mark:
> Please describe the walking pad.  I have never been exposed to one but sure 
> would find the exercise helpful.  How big is it?  What features does it have? 
>  Is it electric?  Thanks.
> Louise Peyton
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 4:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> 1.
> Well, I recently returned from a short vacation and during the trip, for the 
> first time, I made extensive use of Air Tags.  I was delighted to discover 
> that they work remarkably well.  However, to me, it seemed, that using the 
> Find My app, with the Left Behind notification feature enabled, drain my 
> battery a little faster than expected.  I don't know if this is exactly true 
> because, during the journey, I did take more photos than normal and my screen 
> brightness was set to a higher level in order for me to be able to see the 
> phone's display, out in the sunlight.
> 
> 2.
> Someone, on list, suggested that she could not add a television series to her 
> recorded list in Youtube TV for TVOS.  I just tested this feature on my Apple 
> TV, and found that the feature functions as expected, when VoiceOver is 
> enabled.
> 
> 3.
> One of the latest trends in home exercise is using a walking pad.
> Essentially, a walking pad is a much smaller version of a treadmill.
> Generally, the cost of a walking pad starts at around 140 USD.  Many of them 
> require no assembly and do not have a handrail.  They are so very popular 
> that, during my research, I discovered, at least, 30 brands with seemingly 
> endless models.  As a former owner of over 12 full-size exercise devices 
> including several very expensive commercial grade treadmills, which I used in 
> order to achieve my various health goals many years ago, I have decided to 
> purchase one of these walking pads.  For the record, although I thoroughly 
> enjoyed my commercial grade devices, keeping those machines in proper order 
> takes a great deal of tools, parts, and time (if one elects to maintain them 
> by hand, as I did) or a great deal of money if one elects to have them 
> serviced on a regular basis.  One feature that I would like to have on my new 
> walking pad is the ability to have all of the exercise statistics sent to the 
> Apple Health app.  So far, I have not found one that claims to do this.  At 
> least, I have not found one less than 1000 USD that has this feature.  So, if 
> you are using a walking pad or you discover one that has a smart app feature, 
> let me know.  Thank you.
> 
> 4.
> In my home office, I have an Apple TV that was connected to a 14 year old 21 
> inch television.  For the past couple of years, because of various reasons 
> that are not relative to this topic, the active scan feature of Apple TV did 
> not work with the set.  Basically, this means that the edges of the Apple TV 
> display went beyond the edge of the television's visible area.  Not a big 
> deal as I only use this set once or twice a year and when doing so, I mostly 
> listened to the content, rather than watched it.  Still, I have been 
> passively searching for a small form factor television to replace the old 
> one.  In my experience, it has been almost impossible to locate a new, modern 
> technology television, that is smaller than 24 inches.  I had almost given up 
> when, in my local Best Buy store, a couple of days ago, we spotted an area of 
> the store filled with Insignia branded televisions.  Insignia is Best Buy's 
> house brand.  Guess what?  They have and I purchased a 19 inch model for 49 
> USD, before tax.  The biggest surprised? when I powered on the unit for the 
> first time, a screen reader asked if I wanted to leave the screen reader on 
> or turn it off.  This is a marvelous little set that offers anything you 
> could want in a television; including a built-in screen reader.
> So, if you're in the market for a tiny TV that works beautifully with Apple 
> TV, give the Insignia models a try.
> 
> Okay, I think that's all for now.
> 
> I hope you are all doing well and I look forward to any and all replies.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
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Re: How can I get an AI Chatbot to interpret a nine page PDF?

2024-06-01 Thread Brandon Olivares

Just sign up for Chat-GPT Plus and it’ll do it no problem. I do it all the time.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of Mario 
Eiland 
Date: Saturday, June 1, 2024 at 6:03 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: How can I get an AI Chatbot to interpret a nine page PDF?
HI Keith,
This might help.

Here is a YouTube video tutorial for a Chrome Image to Text for ChatGPT 
extension.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zob0us4bPc8

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Keith 
Kramlinger
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 2:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How can I get an AI Chatbot to interpret a nine page PDF?

Hi,
I have a nine page PDF composed of both text and images. I would like to get an 
AI chat bot to describe this to me.

I cannot figure out how to get the complete PDF uploaded to a chatbot in order 
to do this. Is it possible, or just too long?

I would appreciate any guidance on the viability of this, and if possible, 
Specific guidance on how to achieve it.

Thanks in advance. Keith

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RE: How can I get an AI Chatbot to interpret a nine page PDF?

2024-06-01 Thread Mario Eiland

HI Keith,
This might help.

Here is a YouTube video tutorial for a Chrome Image to Text for ChatGPT 
extension.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zob0us4bPc8


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Keith 
Kramlinger
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 2:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How can I get an AI Chatbot to interpret a nine page PDF?

Hi,
I have a nine page PDF composed of both text and images. I would like to get an 
AI chat bot to describe this to me.

I cannot figure out how to get the complete PDF uploaded to a chatbot in order 
to do this. Is it possible, or just too long?

I would appreciate any guidance on the viability of this, and if possible, 
Specific guidance on how to achieve it.

Thanks in advance. Keith

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RE: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions

2024-06-01 Thread Louise Peyton

Mark:
Please describe the walking pad.  I have never been exposed to one but sure 
would find the exercise helpful.  How big is it?  What features does it have?  
Is it electric?  Thanks.
Louise Peyton

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From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 4:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions

Hello All,

1.
Well, I recently returned from a short vacation and during the trip, for the 
first time, I made extensive use of Air Tags.  I was delighted to discover that 
they work remarkably well.  However, to me, it seemed, that using the Find My 
app, with the Left Behind notification feature enabled, drain my battery a 
little faster than expected.  I don't know if this is exactly true because, 
during the journey, I did take more photos than normal and my screen brightness 
was set to a higher level in order for me to be able to see the phone's 
display, out in the sunlight.

2.
Someone, on list, suggested that she could not add a television series to her 
recorded list in Youtube TV for TVOS.  I just tested this feature on my Apple 
TV, and found that the feature functions as expected, when VoiceOver is enabled.

3.
One of the latest trends in home exercise is using a walking pad.
Essentially, a walking pad is a much smaller version of a treadmill.
Generally, the cost of a walking pad starts at around 140 USD.  Many of them 
require no assembly and do not have a handrail.  They are so very popular that, 
during my research, I discovered, at least, 30 brands with seemingly endless 
models.  As a former owner of over 12 full-size exercise devices including 
several very expensive commercial grade treadmills, which I used in order to 
achieve my various health goals many years ago, I have decided to purchase one 
of these walking pads.  For the record, although I thoroughly enjoyed my 
commercial grade devices, keeping those machines in proper order takes a great 
deal of tools, parts, and time (if one elects to maintain them by hand, as I 
did) or a great deal of money if one elects to have them serviced on a regular 
basis.  One feature that I would like to have on my new walking pad is the 
ability to have all of the exercise statistics sent to the Apple Health app.  
So far, I have not found one that claims to do this.  At least, I have not 
found one less than 1000 USD that has this feature.  So, if you are using a 
walking pad or you discover one that has a smart app feature, let me know.  
Thank you.

4.
In my home office, I have an Apple TV that was connected to a 14 year old 21 
inch television.  For the past couple of years, because of various reasons that 
are not relative to this topic, the active scan feature of Apple TV did not 
work with the set.  Basically, this means that the edges of the Apple TV 
display went beyond the edge of the television's visible area.  Not a big deal 
as I only use this set once or twice a year and when doing so, I mostly 
listened to the content, rather than watched it.  Still, I have been passively 
searching for a small form factor television to replace the old one.  In my 
experience, it has been almost impossible to locate a new, modern technology 
television, that is smaller than 24 inches.  I had almost given up when, in my 
local Best Buy store, a couple of days ago, we spotted an area of the store 
filled with Insignia branded televisions.  Insignia is Best Buy's house brand.  
Guess what?  They have and I purchased a 19 inch model for 49 USD, before tax.  
The biggest surprised? when I powered on the unit for the first time, a screen 
reader asked if I wanted to leave the screen reader on or turn it off.  This is 
a marvelous little set that offers anything you could want in a television; 
including a built-in screen reader.
So, if you're in the market for a tiny TV that works beautifully with Apple TV, 
give the Insignia models a try.

Okay, I think that's all for now.

I hope you are all doing well and I look forward to any and all replies.

Mark

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How can I get an AI Chatbot to interpret a nine page PDF?

2024-06-01 Thread Keith Kramlinger

Hi,
I have a nine page PDF composed of both text and images. I would like to get an 
AI chat bot to describe this to me.

I cannot figure out how to get the complete PDF uploaded to a chatbot in order 
to do this. Is it possible, or just too long?

I would appreciate any guidance on the viability of this, and if possible, 
Specific guidance on how to achieve it.

Thanks in advance. Keith

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RE: Transferring Files to a New Phone

2024-06-01 Thread Christopher Chaltain

I recently restored my iPhone back to factory settings. I was able to get 
everything back by backing everything up to the cloud and then restoring it. 
Apple provides a temporary increase in iCloud storage to support things like 
this or setting up a new phone.

There's also Quick Start which transfers everything over via Bluetooth.

You can read up on these as well as the option to use your computer,, at How to 
Transfer Data From iPhone to iPhone 
(lifewire.com)

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Steve 
Matzura
Sent: Saturday, June 1, 2024 4:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Transferring Files to a New Phone


It's that time once again, and several iOS versions have gone by since last I 
even thought about this problem, but I am now in the process of getting data 
transferred to a new phone. Some applications, specifically BARD, have files 
that cannot be accessed through user-level applications like File or File 
Browser. So, is it possible to move lots and lots of BARD books from one device 
to another without having to re-download them? If so, can a user do it, or must 
it be done by an iOS technician at a store?
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Transferring Files to a New Phone

2024-06-01 Thread Steve Matzura

It's that time once again, and several iOS versions have gone by since 
last I even thought about this problem, but I am now in the process of 
getting data transferred to a new phone. Some applications, specifically 
BARD, have files that cannot be accessed through user-level applications 
like File or File Browser. So, is it possible to move lots and lots of 
BARD books from one device to another without having to re-download 
them? If so, can a user do it, or must it be done by an iOS technician 
at a store?


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From Mark: Some Comments, Answers, and Questions

2024-06-01 Thread M. Taylor

Hello All,

1.
Well, I recently returned from a short vacation and during the trip, for the
first time, I made extensive use of Air Tags.  I was delighted to discover
that they work remarkably well.  However, to me, it seemed, that using the
Find My app, with the Left Behind notification feature enabled, drain my
battery a little faster than expected.  I don't know if this is exactly true
because, during the journey, I did take more photos than normal and my
screen brightness was set to a higher level in order for me to be able to
see the phone's display, out in the sunlight.

2.
Someone, on list, suggested that she could not add a television series to
her recorded list in Youtube TV for TVOS.  I just tested this feature on my
Apple TV, and found that the feature functions as expected, when VoiceOver
is enabled.

3.
One of the latest trends in home exercise is using a walking pad.
Essentially, a walking pad is a much smaller version of a treadmill.
Generally, the cost of a walking pad starts at around 140 USD.  Many of them
require no assembly and do not have a handrail.  They are so very popular
that, during my research, I discovered, at least, 30 brands with seemingly
endless models.  As a former owner of over 12 full-size exercise devices
including several very expensive commercial grade treadmills, which I used
in order to achieve my various health goals many years ago, I have decided
to purchase one of these walking pads.  For the record, although I
thoroughly enjoyed my commercial grade devices, keeping those machines in
proper order takes a great deal of tools, parts, and time (if one elects to
maintain them by hand, as I did) or a great deal of money if one elects to
have them serviced on a regular basis.  One feature that I would like to
have on my new walking pad is the ability to have all of the exercise
statistics sent to the Apple Health app.  So far, I have not found one that
claims to do this.  At least, I have not found one less than 1000 USD that
has this feature.  So, if you are using a walking pad or you discover one
that has a smart app feature, let me know.  Thank you.

4.
In my home office, I have an Apple TV that was connected to a 14 year old 21
inch television.  For the past couple of years, because of various reasons
that are not relative to this topic, the active scan feature of Apple TV did
not work with the set.  Basically, this means that the edges of the Apple TV
display went beyond the edge of the television's visible area.  Not a big
deal as I only use this set once or twice a year and when doing so, I mostly
listened to the content, rather than watched it.  Still, I have been
passively searching for a small form factor television to replace the old
one.  In my experience, it has been almost impossible to locate a new,
modern technology television, that is smaller than 24 inches.  I had almost
given up when, in my local Best Buy store, a couple of days ago, we spotted
an area of the store filled with Insignia branded televisions.  Insignia is
Best Buy's house brand.  Guess what?  They have and I purchased a 19 inch
model for 49 USD, before tax.  The biggest surprised? when I powered on the
unit for the first time, a screen reader asked if I wanted to leave the
screen reader on or turn it off.  This is a marvelous little set that offers
anything you could want in a television; including a built-in screen reader.
So, if you're in the market for a tiny TV that works beautifully with Apple
TV, give the Insignia models a try.

Okay, I think that's all for now.

I hope you are all doing well and I look forward to any and all replies.

Mark


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Re: Downloading on the iPhone

2024-06-01 Thread Richard Turner

Have you tried the search feature at the top of the Files app? Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Jun 1, 2024, at 7:28 AM, Kay Malmquist  wrote:






Hi all,
This is going to sound rather dumb, but here 
goes.  I want to download a PDF of my apple card statement.  I have 
the instructions so this should not be a problem.  Where I am having 
trouble is that I have tried to download things before on my iPhone and have 
looked in the files app but can not seem to find anything anywhere.  I have 
not set anything up and don't know if I need to or what.  Can someone tell 
me how to get this process started so that I can download and actually have it 
happen?  Thanks much.
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Downloading on the iPhone

2024-06-01 Thread Kay Malmquist

Hi all,
This is going to sound rather dumb, but here goes.  I want to download a PDF 
of my apple card statement.  I have the instructions so this should not be a 
problem.  Where I am having trouble is that I have tried to download things 
before on my iPhone and have looked in the files app but can not seem to 
find anything anywhere.  I have not set anything up and don't know if I need 
to or what.  Can someone tell me how to get this process started so that I 
can download and actually have it happen?  Thanks much.

Kay Malmquist
kay.malmqu...@gmail.com

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Re: Heading Level Access In Safari Browser

2024-05-31 Thread Richard Turner

When on a web site or in your html file, turn on quicknav if it isn't on using 
left+right arrows together.
Then, press VO+q to turn on single letter quicknav.  I have the VO command as 
control+Options so control+Options+q.
Then, you can use the singel numbers or h for the next heading, shift plus h 
for previous or even shift+1 for previous heading level 1, etc.
HTH,

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on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
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> On May 31, 2024, at 9:18 AM, Mario Eiland  wrote:
> 
> Use the rotor while in the Safari app and look for headings. Once you hear 
> headings then flick down with one finger and that should take you from 
> heading to heading. To go up flick up.
> If you can't find the heading option in the rotor then you must add it in the 
> VoiceOver rotor settings.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ron 
> Canazzi
> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2024 8:42 AM
> To: ViPhone List 
> Subject: Heading Level Access In Safari Browser
> 
> Hi Group,
> 
> I finally was able to change some settings in Safari Browser on the iPhone to 
> get it to display HTML files that are stored locally on the iPhone.  I  
> created my modified Dice Football Game Play Sheet by using headings to more 
> quickly navigate from play list to play list.  I have the lists separated 
> into running plays, kicking plays, passing plays and conversions at level one 
> and the various list of items such as short pass, long pass and screen pass 
> for the passing plays and the running plays such as left end run, right 
> tackle play and reverse at heading level two.
> 
> Is there any way to navigate by heading levels using a quick number scheme 
> such as is done on Windows desktops with quick key number navigation such as 
> number one for heading level one and number two for heading level two on the 
> iPhone?
> 
> Thanks for any help.
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RE: Heading Level Access In Safari Browser

2024-05-31 Thread Mario Eiland

Use the rotor while in the Safari app and look for headings. Once you hear 
headings then flick down with one finger and that should take you from heading 
to heading. To go up flick up.
If you can't find the heading option in the rotor then you must add it in the 
VoiceOver rotor settings.

Good luck!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ron 
Canazzi
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2024 8:42 AM
To: ViPhone List 
Subject: Heading Level Access In Safari Browser

Hi Group,

I finally was able to change some settings in Safari Browser on the iPhone to 
get it to display HTML files that are stored locally on the iPhone.  I  created 
my modified Dice Football Game Play Sheet by using headings to more quickly 
navigate from play list to play list.  I have the lists separated into running 
plays, kicking plays, passing plays and conversions at level one and the 
various list of items such as short pass, long pass and screen pass for the 
passing plays and the running plays such as left end run, right tackle play and 
reverse at heading level two.

Is there any way to navigate by heading levels using a quick number scheme such 
as is done on Windows desktops with quick key number navigation such as number 
one for heading level one and number two for heading level two on the iPhone?

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Heading Level Access In Safari Browser

2024-05-31 Thread Ron Canazzi


Hi Group,

I finally was able to change some settings in Safari Browser on the 
iPhone to get it to display HTML files that are stored locally on the 
iPhone.  I  created my modified Dice Football Game Play Sheet by using 
headings to more quickly navigate from play list to play list.  I have 
the lists separated into running plays, kicking plays, passing plays and 
conversions at level one and the various list of items such as short 
pass, long pass and screen pass for the passing plays and the running 
plays such as left end run, right tackle play and reverse at heading 
level two.


Is there any way to navigate by heading levels using a quick number 
scheme such as is done on Windows desktops with quick key number 
navigation such as number one for heading level one and number two for 
heading level two on the iPhone?


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FW: Apple's WWDC 2024 Invite Is Out. The Wait for iOS 18 and AI Is Almost Over - CNET

2024-05-29 Thread Richard Turner

Apple's WWDC 2024 Invite Is Out. The Wait for iOS 18 and AI Is Almost Over

 

The June 10 event will likely bring updates across MacOS, iPadOS and VisionOS, 
too.

Abrar Al-Heeti Technology Reporter

 

The invite for Apple's WWDC keynote on June 10 went out Tuesday.

 

Apple

Apple on Tuesday morning sent out invites for its upcoming Worldwide Developers 
Conference keynote, which is set for 10 a.m. PT (1 p.m. ET) on Monday, June 10. 
The invite shows the Apple logo and "WWDC24" in the center of multiple colorful 
circles. 

 

The iPhone-maker hasn't shared much about what to expect from this year's 
event, but with the growing focus on AI throughout the tech industry, it's 
likely we'll see a preview of iOS 18 that incorporates new AI capabilities. A 
Sunday report from Bloomberg suggests Apple could bring AI into photo editing, 
messages, emoji and email. It could also add voice memo transcriptions, faster 
search and a more conversational Siri. 

 

We also expect to get updates for the company's other operating systems, 
including MacOS, iPadOS and VisionOS.

 

Earlier this month, Apple unveiled a lineup of new iPad Airs and Pros, with the 
Pros sporting the more powerful and efficient M4 chip. Apple said the chips 
also feature improved machine learning for AI-based tasks. If past WWDC 
keynotes are any indication, it's possible the company will spend a decent 
chunk of this year's keynote touting its in-house chips -- and all their AI 
capabilities.

 

Apple earlier this month also unveiled some accessibility updates coming to the 
iPhone, iPad, Vision Pro and CarPlay later this year, like Eye Tracking, Vocal 
Shortcuts and Live Captions in VisionOS. It's possible the company could share 
more about the timing of that rollout during WWDC. 

 

Apple sent both online and in-person WWDC invites on Tuesday, with the event 
once again taking place at Apple Park in Cupertino, California. If you weren't 
lucky in enough to score an invite, you'll be able to watch a livestream. And, 
as always, CNET's experts will be on the ground sharing all the updates.

 

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RE: YoutubeTV how to record a series on apple tv

2024-05-28 Thread M. Taylor

Hello,

 

I have tried replying earlier but it did not come through.

 

I will check the ap to make certain that it is still accessible.

 

Mark

 

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Yes its paid and using youtube tv app on apple tv.

 

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S this a paid YouTube TV subscription?

 

I wonder if you have to have a subscription and use the YouTube app for that?

 

 

 

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How do I setup recording a series? If I press and hold it returns to the 
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RE: YoutubeTV how to record a series on apple tv

2024-05-28 Thread sarai.bucciarelli

Yes its paid and using youtube tv app on apple tv.

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S this a paid YouTube TV subscription?

I wonder if you have to have a subscription and use the YouTube app for that?

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I’m trying YoutubeTV on apple tv.

How do I setup recording a series? If I press and hold it returns to the 
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Re: YoutubeTV how to record a series on apple tv

2024-05-28 Thread Jim Portillo

I could be wrong, but I believe YouTube TV is what does the recording. I have a couple series being recorded currently. I don't know if I can record actually using Apple TV, but I don't think so.Sent from my iPhone 15 Pro!On May 28, 2024, at 4:51 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:S this a paid YouTube TV subscription? I wonder if you have to have a subscription and use the YouTube app for that?   Richard, USA"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of sarai.bucciare...@gmail.comSent: Tuesday, May 28, 2024 4:48 PMTo: macvisionar...@googlegroups.comCc: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: YoutubeTV how to record a series on apple tv All:I’m trying YoutubeTV on apple tv.How do I setup recording a series? If I press and hold it returns to the previous watched channel, which is cool. LOL but trying to figure out how to record.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001501dab159%24878de500%2496a9af00%24%40gmail.com.



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RE: YoutubeTV how to record a series on apple tv

2024-05-28 Thread Richard Turner

S this a paid YouTube TV subscription?

 

I wonder if you have to have a subscription and use the YouTube app for that?

 

 

 

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YoutubeTV how to record a series on apple tv

2024-05-28 Thread sarai.bucciarelli

All:

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RE: Full Screen with phone calls.

2024-05-27 Thread Carolyn Arnold

I put Full Screen back, check in Rotor, and Direct Touch for phone was off. 

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Leave ful screen on, it makes the phone app easier to use. The following should 
stop it from disconnecting a call if your finger touches the screen. Go into 
voice over settings, rotor, and look for direct touch apps. Go into that, and 
deselect phone. 

Arnold Schmidt 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3

On May 27, 2024, at 10:44 AM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:

That feature is turned on on my phone right now. However, sometimes, calls get 
cut off, if I get a finger near the screen.

First, what is the advantage of it being on?

Second, how do I turn it off? When I go to it in Phone, I keep double tapping 
on it, but it just says Full Screens with phone calls on.

Any help is appreciated, thanks.

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Re: Full Screen with phone calls.

2024-05-27 Thread Arnold Schmidt

Leave ful screen on, it makes the phone app easier to use. The following should 
stop it from disconnecting a call if your finger touches the screen. Go into 
voice over settings, rotor, and look for direct touch apps. Go into that, and 
deselect phone. 

Arnold Schmidt 

Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3

On May 27, 2024, at 10:44 AM, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:

That feature is turned on on my phone right now. However,
sometimes, calls get cut off, if I get a finger near the
screen.

First, what is the advantage of it being on?

Second, how do I turn it off? When I go to it in Phone, I
keep double tapping on it, but it just says Full Screens
with phone calls on.

Any help is appreciated, thanks.


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Full Screen with phone calls.

2024-05-27 Thread Carolyn Arnold

That feature is turned on on my phone right now. However,
sometimes, calls get cut off, if I get a finger near the
screen. 

First, what is the advantage of it being on? 

Second, how do I turn it off? When I go to it in Phone, I
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with phone calls on. 

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Re: Spanish - English dictionary?

2024-05-25 Thread William Outman

If you are using an iPhone, there is the Translate app. I haven’t used it much, though.  There is also a translate feature in Word, one of the power tips that was posted recently.  I am sure Siri and Google Assistant, as well as some of the AI programs could be used as well. Bill Outman Sent from my iPhoneOn May 6, 2024, at 4:26 PM, R Van Lant  wrote:







Hi,
When I took Spanish in high school, I had enough vision to use a hard copy Spanish-English dictionary to look up words, e.g., how do you say ”yesterday” in Spanish.  What is the modern and accessible way to do this?  Is there an app I could
 use when I’m trying to come up with the word translation?  
 
 
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Could someone who updated to the latestSonos app on an iPhone say exactly what works, or doesn't?

2024-05-24 Thread Richard Turner

Sorry for the long subject, but folks have been rather quiet about specifics on 
the newest update to Sonos, other than to say it is manageable or that they 
like it. Any details about the layout, etc., would be very much appreciated. 


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Re: reading books with phone or glasses

2024-05-24 Thread 'Harry Bell' via VIPhone

VDScan is a brilliant app for iPhone which I have used to scan entire books! It is very accurate and straightforward to use. I use this Celeste glasses simply for shorter items or the odd page because I can't tell how much of the page has been scanned and stored in the glasses memory and so am stuck there staring at the book in case the glasses run out of scanned text and meet doing another check HarryOn 23 May 2024, at 16:42, dlmlao...@gmail.com wrote:I have the Envision glasses, and though I didn’t get them for this, I would love it if I could sit back and scan books. My first experience gave me very poor quality. I usually use a fast flatbed scanner, and I can continue to do so but would love to use phone or glasses. Has anybody successfully input books with either glasses or phone, and if so, how? My preliminary impression is that Seeing AI Ocr is better than Envision, but again, I haven’t tested a lot.  



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FW: Join GoodMaps for a webinar on June 13

2024-05-23 Thread Richard Turner

The text of the article is below the link.

Full article is at:

https://mailchi.mp/goodmaps/intel-and-goodmaps-navigating-the-future-together-14173893?e=740dac6397

 

Navigating This Summer’s Conferences With GoodMaps

Hi !

I hope you’re well.

 

My name’s Kevin, and I work for GoodMaps, a company that delivers inclusive and 
accessible indoor navigation regardless of your needs.

 

I’m writing to invite you to our latest webinar.

 

Navigating This Summer’s Conferences With GoodMaps

 

Spend some time with the GoodMaps team as they discuss the reasons for 
attending conferences – as an exhibitor or an attendee – and how to make the 
most out of your experience while you’re there.

 

Whether it’s your first time attending a conference or your fiftieth, we’ll 
walk you through some accessibility tools and tips that will enhance your 
experience before, during, and after the conference.

 

The team will also talk about our upcoming events (which we’ll be attending and 
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into us on the floor.

 

And, as always, we’ll have plenty of time for Q at the end of the webinar.

 

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If using Teams, however, ensure it’s up-to-date.

 

 

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reading books with phone or glasses

2024-05-23 Thread dlmlaochi

I have the Envision glasses, and though I didn't get them for this, I would
love it if I could sit back and scan books. My first experience gave me very
poor quality. I usually use a fast flatbed scanner, and I can continue to do
so but would love to use phone or glasses.
 
Has anybody successfully input books with either glasses or phone, and if
so, how? My preliminary impression is that Seeing AI Ocr is better than
Envision, but again, I haven't tested a lot.
 
 

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RE: Off line HTML Documents and Safari Browser

2024-05-23 Thread Richard Turner

You might try a single finger triple tap on the file and see if you get an 
option to open it in Safari.  



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Hi Group,

I have a document that I downloaded and sent to my iPhone via e-mail 
attachment.  I saved it to files. When I try to open it, Voice Dream Reader 
grabs it and opens it. How can I allow Safari Browser to open it?

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Off line HTML Documents and Safari Browser

2024-05-23 Thread Ron Canazzi


Hi Group,

I have a document that I downloaded and sent to my iPhone via e-mail 
attachment.  I saved it to files. When I try to open it, Voice Dream 
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RE: Voice Dream 4.34.5 fixes the download issue wiht Bookshare for iOS 16 according to one user

2024-05-22 Thread Richard Turner

And, the Voice Dream team needs a lot of credit for working so quickly to sort 
out this issue with Bookshare.

 

Thanks Kishin and all.

 

 

 

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Subject: Re: Voice Dream 4.34.5 fixes the download issue wiht Bookshare for iOS 
16 according to one user

 

I'm on iOS 15 and I can confirm that this works. Sounds like it was probably 
caused by Bookshare upgrading its website.





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For those running iOS 16, at this point, one person has reported that it fixed 
his issues with an MP3 file as well as the download buttons on Bookshare.

The Voice Dream staff has said it should fix that issue for everyone.  There 
was a change in the URL due to the Bookshare web site changes.  At least, that 
is what I understood from a message on the Voice-Dream list.

 

 

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Hello All, Testing the List, Please ignore

2024-05-22 Thread M. Taylor

As the subject states, just checking the list settings.

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Re: Voice Dream 4.34.5 fixes the download issue wiht Bookshare for iOS 16 according to one user

2024-05-22 Thread Kelby Carlson

I'm on iOS 15 and I can confirm that this works. Sounds like it was probably 
caused by Bookshare upgrading its website.

> On May 22, 2024, at 5:36 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>  
> For those running iOS 16, at this point, one person has reported that it 
> fixed his issues with an MP3 file as well as the download buttons on 
> Bookshare.
> The Voice Dream staff has said it should fix that issue for everyone.  There 
> was a change in the URL due to the Bookshare web site changes.  At least, 
> that is what I understood from a message on the Voice-Dream list.
>  
>  
> Richard, USA
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> a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
> you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
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Voice Dream 4.34.5 fixes the download issue wiht Bookshare for iOS 16 according to one user

2024-05-22 Thread Richard Turner

 

For those running iOS 16, at this point, one person has reported that it
fixed his issues with an MP3 file as well as the download buttons on
Bookshare.

The Voice Dream staff has said it should fix that issue for everyone.  There
was a change in the URL due to the Bookshare web site changes.  At least,
that is what I understood from a message on the Voice-Dream list.

 

 

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Re: Sonos headphones are here

2024-05-22 Thread 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone

I got two pair of the Sony XM4 and I’m happy with those as well.
Merv


> On May 21, 2024, at 12:54 PM, Cristóbal Muñoz  wrote:
> 
> They sound like nice headphones, but not nice enough for me to upgrade from 
> my Sony WH-1000XM4 headphones. 
>  
> Cristóbal
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2024 9:40 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Sonos headphones are here
>  
> Since I have had the Apple Airpods Max since they came out, unless they die, 
> I don’t see any real need to buy these.
> The extra battery life looks great, but to my ears, the Apple Airpods Max are 
> fantastic.
>  
> Like you say, since they didn’t include Wi-Fi, the battery life is really the 
> only thing I would want, but only if these die.
>  
>  
>  
> Richard, USA
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> a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
> you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
> Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)
>  
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com 
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2024 9:01 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: Sonos headphones are here
>  
> No worries Richard, now instead of posting the first message I'll simply say 
> that I am deeply disappointed that these are just another pair of super 
> expensive Bluetooth headsets. I really thought that apart from that they 
> would also support Wi-Fi connectivity when you are at home as all other Sonos 
> products do and that they could be used as any other Sonos player and could 
> be grouped with other Sonos players if, for example, my wife was watching a 
> movie on our Arc surround setup and I wanted to listen on the headset while I 
> was doing something else. Apparently it is very easy to transfer whatever is 
> playing on another Sonos speaker to the headset which is somewhat nice, but I 
> find it disappointing nonetheless. The first review I just read did sound 
> positive in terms of the headset's design and sound quality. Apparently it is 
> a definite step up from Apple's Airpods Max at a $100 lower price point and 
> also competes well against Sony's top of the line offering. I may order one 
> just to experience it, but I am 95% certain that I would probably send it 
> back. Here the link to the review from Cult of Mac:
>  
> Sonos Ace headphones, the company's first, take on AirPods Max | Cult of Mac 
> 
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>  > On Behalf Of Richard Turner
> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2024 7:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Sonos headphones are here
>  
>  
>  
> Sorry Sieghared to beat you to the punch, but for those waiting for Sonos to 
> release headphones, they announced them today.  They will be available June 
> 5th for $449 US.
> https://www.sonos.com/en-us/shop/sonos-ace
>  
>  
> Richard, USA
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RE: Sonos headphones are here

2024-05-22 Thread Cristóbal Muñoz

They sound like nice headphones, but not nice enough for me to upgrade from my 
Sony WH-1000XM4 headphones. 

Cristóbal

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2024 9:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sonos headphones are here

Since I have had the Apple Airpods Max since they came out, unless they die, I 
don’t see any real need to buy these.
The extra battery life looks great, but to my ears, the Apple Airpods Max are 
fantastic.

Like you say, since they didn’t include Wi-Fi, the battery life is really the 
only thing I would want, but only if these die.

Richard, USA
"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a 
disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

My web site:   https://www.turner42.com

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2024 9:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: Sonos headphones are here

No worries Richard, now instead of posting the first message I'll simply say 
that I am deeply disappointed that these are just another pair of super 
expensive Bluetooth headsets. I really thought that apart from that they would 
also support Wi-Fi connectivity when you are at home as all other Sonos 
products do and that they could be used as any other Sonos player and could be 
grouped with other Sonos players if, for example, my wife was watching a movie 
on our Arc surround setup and I wanted to listen on the headset while I was 
doing something else. Apparently it is very easy to transfer whatever is 
playing on another Sonos speaker to the headset which is somewhat nice, but I 
find it disappointing nonetheless. The first review I just read did sound 
positive in terms of the headset's design and sound quality. Apparently it is a 
definite step up from Apple's Airpods Max at a $100 lower price point and also 
competes well against Sony's top of the line offering. I may order one just to 
experience it, but I am 95% certain that I would probably send it back. Here 
the link to the review from Cult of Mac:

Sonos Ace headphones, the company's first, take on AirPods Max | Cult of Mac 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com   
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2024 7:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Sonos headphones are here

Sorry Sieghared to beat you to the punch, but for those waiting for Sonos to 
release headphones, they announced them today.  They will be available June 5th 
for $449 US.
https://www.sonos.com/en-us/shop/sonos-ace

Richard, USA
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disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
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Voice Dream update 4.34.5

2024-05-21 Thread Richard Turner

Update info from today, May 21, 2024:
- Restore previous VoiceOver navigation - Fix bug with downloading Bookshare 
files on iOS 16 - Fix issues with playing mp3 files



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any tips for using apple tv with YoutubeTV and Voiceover?

2024-05-21 Thread sarai.bucciarelli

I broke down and am trying YoutubeTV. They have a free 10 day trial with $20
off first three months. Any documentation to point me to get it up and
running on Apple tv?

I got the app started but want to learn how to best find channels, favorite
them, and record shows.

Feel free to point me to documentation. I have 10 days to decide if I want
to keep it.

I mainly got it for the SEC baseball tournament. Lol.

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Re: Problems with whatsapp and iPhone

2024-05-21 Thread Jennie Facer

Hello,

You can try to touch somewhere else on the screen to see if that solves it.

Thanks,

Jenn
Jennie Facer

> On May 21, 2024, at 8:31 AM, Albert  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Hello,
> I am using hearing aids and sometimes blue toot headsets.
> I sometimes when I receive a call on whatsapp Voice over keeps chatting
> away.
> For example the length
> Of time I am on a call, who the call is from.
> To avoid this problem I switch off the speech.
> Is there a setting in the whatsapp to stop this annoying problem please?
> 
> ALBERT
> 
> JAWS HOME USE EDITION. VERSION 2024.2405.48
> 
> MICROSOFT WINDOWS
> Operating System
> Windows 11 Home (x64) Version 23H2 (os built 22631.3527)
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Re: Can't Add Bookshare Books to VoiceDream

2024-05-21 Thread Richard Turner

Update to 17.5.1 and see what happens. It has no general accessibility issues, so there is no reason not to update. Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On May 21, 2024, at 10:16 AM, Kerry Macdonald  wrote:I am having the exact same issue with the same phone and operating system.KerrySent from my iPhoneOn May 21, 2024, at 10:30 AM, Jody ianuzzi  wrote:I am using an SE3 and I'm running iOS 17.4.1. Sometimes this happens and sometimes it doesn't. It's very strange.JODYTo Boldly Go   thunderwalker...@gmail.com "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS  Erik WeihenmayerOn May 21, 2024, at 10:08 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:I just started a word file playing.I paused and switched to mail.I switched back to VDR and it picked up where I left off.I did the same with an MP3 file.It also picked up where I stopped it after switching to Mail… Which phone and which iOS are you using? I’m on the 13 pro iOS 17.5.   Richard, USA"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jody ianuzziSent: Tuesday, May 21, 2024 6:48 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Can't Add Bookshare Books to VoiceDream The latest problem that I have with Voice Dream Reeder is that if I go to a different app and then return to Voice Dream reader and hit play it doesn't work. I have to remove the app from the app switcher and start again and then it will work.JODYTo Boldly Go   thunderwalker...@gmail.com "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS  Erik WeihenmayerOn May 21, 2024, at 5:37 AM, Dennis Long  wrote:One other question that’s just popped into my brain. What if they paid for a subscription again in good face that these features would work you are now in violation of the App Store agreement which states you cannot take features away you took features away and didn’t tell the user so are you going to refund their money or are you going to restore functionality?  Dennis LongSent from my iPhone 15 Pro MaxOn May 21, 2024, at 5:01 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:I remember that CC is using 16.x, I had suspected that that was the problem.  I think that is unfortunate that they start dropping features so soon for those who are using older ios's. Even Apple gives the ios 16 users security updates for this year.  I know a lot of people who are still using their iphone 8 every day, and one who still uses a 7 with ios 15. Not everybody can, or wants to,  afford that 15 pro max. And those who are still using their iphone 8 are about to be two generations out of date. Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3On May 20, 2024, at 6:29 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:If you are using iOS 16.x that could be the issue. A friend discovered yesterday that after updating from iOS 16 something to 17.5 the download button was back. I'd recommend writing to the support folks through the Voice Dream, Settings, Email support.  Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On May 20, 2024, at 3:18 PM, CC  wrote:Folks, Version 4.34.4 is now available. Still no download option. Going to bookshare on the web, downloading to files app, then transferring to VDR, is doable, but cumbersome. On Sunday, May 12, 2024 at 9:07:58 PM UTC-4 Richard Turner wrote:First Bookshare's response doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Once the book is downloaded, you do not need internet access. So, I'm not sure what they mean. I never had any issue switching to another app, and then coming back to Voice Dream and continuing reading a book.   Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/  On May 12, 2024, at 2:27 PM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:When I contacted bookshare about this... they said sometimes books are taken offline due to copyright etc. The skeliton is still there but the book is taken down. (shrug)  Sent from my iPhoneOn May 12, 2024, at 5:10 PM, Jody ianuzzi  wrote:Oh I can add books from Bookshare to my voic Voice Dream reader but I have another problem. If I go to a different app and then go back to the Voice Dream reader and hit

RE: Sonos App Update

2024-05-21 Thread Richard Turner

I updated my iPad where I had put the last update and while this one is better, 
it is still way too clunky for my liking.

I hope the update promised in 6 weeks gets us back to some level of normalcy.

I hope they add an option to not have so damn much on one screen.

 

 

 

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Weitzel
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Subject: RE: Sonos App Update

 

Funny timing, I was just composing my message about the app update. Depending 
on how adventurous you are I would say you can update now, but there is 
definitely a bit of a learning curve and some experimentation required. It is 
definitely a lot better, though, maybe some others who have updated will post 
their feedback and what they have discovered works and doesn't work.

 

 

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lang...@gmail.com  
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Sonos App Update

 

Hi,

I checked out the app store this morning and found version 80.01.10 of the 
Sonos app is available, and, among other things it’s supposed to have improved 
VoiceOver support. Has anybody tried it yet? Just curious. I’m still running 
the older version prior to the redesign.  

Tom

 

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RE: Sonos App Update

2024-05-21 Thread lange85

Hi Sieghard,

Funny timing indeed! I ran the update just after I saw your message.  After 
looking at a couple of dialogs which I closed, the new app wanted me to do a 
software update for my Sonos speakers, which are the old Sonos 1.  The firmware 
update completed successfully and I’m happy to say that the speakers are back 
in action, and, exploring the screen with VoiceOver seems to work okay. I’ve 
got a lot of exploring to do, but I’ll take my time with that. I’ve got a lot 
of other stuff that I need to do today. I look forward to hearing about how you 
and others out there are faring with the recent update. Thanks.

 

Tom

 

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Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2024 11:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sonos App Update

 

Funny timing, I was just composing my message about the app update. Depending 
on how adventurous you are I would say you can update now, but there is 
definitely a bit of a learning curve and some experimentation required. It is 
definitely a lot better, though, maybe some others who have updated will post 
their feedback and what they have discovered works and doesn't work.

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2024 11:06 AM
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Subject: Sonos App Update

 

Hi,

I checked out the app store this morning and found version 80.01.10 of the 
Sonos app is available, and, among other things it’s supposed to have improved 
VoiceOver support. Has anybody tried it yet? Just curious. I’m still running 
the older version prior to the redesign.  

Tom

 

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RE: Sonos App Update

Funny timing, I was just composing my message about the app update. Depending 
on how adventurous you are I would say you can update now, but there is 
definitely a bit of a learning curve and some experimentation required. It is 
definitely a lot better, though, maybe some others who have updated will post 
their feedback and what they have discovered works and doesn't work.


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Hi,
I checked out the app store this morning and found version 80.01.10 of the 
Sonos app is available, and, among other things it’s supposed to have improved 
VoiceOver support. Has anybody tried it yet? Just curious. I’m still running 
the older version prior to the redesign.
Tom

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As promised, today's Sonos update brings significant Voiceover improvements

Hi, as Sonos promised, an update of the new Sonos app which was released two 
weeks ago came out today. I decided to update and I am happy to say that while 
not perfect, the app is now definitely very usable with Voiceover. Exploring by 
touch again lets you find stuff and swiping is much more efficient. There are 
still places where a certain item has two or three different labels/icons you 
can click on with the same result, but while I haven't spend more than 10 or 15 
minutes with the app, I can now say it's not a complete disaster any more. 
There was, by the way, also an update of the firmware today which I assume has 
to do with the announcement of the new headset. One thing I have not yet 
figured out and it may simply not yet be possible is how to rearrange one's 
home screen. According to the app tour you can arrange what you want to see on 
yoru home screen and in which order, e.g. Recently Added, Albums, Artists etc. 
Sounds like this is a drag and drop sort of thing and I may have to ask one of 
my sighted employees to figure it out and then see if it can be done, but after 
going into "Edit", doing a double tap and hold does not seem to work. There is 
a remove button on the left of all the items which are showing, but not the 
typical reorder button one finds in other iOS apps.
Let's hope Sonos will keep their promise and continue with more Voiceover 
improvements to bring accessibility up to par with the old app by the end of 
June. If this wasn't such a busy time for me work wise I'd probably ask to be 
back in the beta program, but hopefully there are a few other blind users who 
do have time and can do this.

Best regards,
Sieghard

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Sonos App Update

2024-05-21 Thread lange85

Hi,

I checked out the app store this morning and found version 80.01.10 of the
Sonos app is available, and, among other things it's supposed to have
improved VoiceOver support. Has anybody tried it yet? Just curious. I'm
still running the older version prior to the redesign.  

Tom

 

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RE: Sonos headphones are here

It's definitely somewhat disappointing, but not being an audio engineer, I have 
no idea how easy or not it would be to put all of that hardware into a headset; 
Sonos took years to finally release a headset and I assume there is a reason 
why it doesn't have the ability to stream over Wi-Fi. For that matter, I don't 
think I have ever heard of a headset which can do this so it may simply not be 
possible to do this given the size of components and maybe the amount of 
battery power required. Look how heavy the small Roam from Sonos is and even 
the new Roam 2 which was also announced today still only have 10 hours of 
battery life. I now also understand the timing of their new app release, I 
wouldn't be surprised if the headset required whatever new functionality may be 
in this app. The app by the way also had an update today as promised and 
Voiceover improvements were mentioned and implemented; I'll post a separate 
message.

Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2024 10:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Sonos headphones are here

What a lost opportunity from Sonos. They could have waited and implemented 
technology so that they can work with their ecosystem. to go.
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On May 21, 2024, at 10:06 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

I always find it funny when companies and Sonos is included here, claim they 
support lossless audio via Bluetooth which is simply not possible. I'm not 
saying it doesn't sound very good, but even the most current and modern 
Bluetooth version and protocols have limitations when it comes to how much 
information can be streamed ant 1411 Kbps which is truly lossless audio is not 
possible, here is an excerpt from an article I recently read on Gear Patrol, I 
am putting the link to the full article below:

Can lossless audio be streamed over Bluetooth?
The short answer is no.
In order to listen to lossless digital audio files, you have two main options. 
You can use an analog connection, like connecting your wired headphones
to your smartphone or computer. Or you can stream the lossless audio over 
Wi-Fi, through a pair of
active speakers, such as KEF Wireless II or even multi-room speaker like Sonos.
There are technologies that let you stream high bitrate audio over Bluetooth. 
For example, if your smartphone and headphones support either of some audio 
codecs, such as Sony’s LDAC (up to 990 kbps) or Qualcomm’s aptX Adaptive (up to 
570 kbps), you can stream stream high bitrate and low latency audio files over 
Bluetooth. However, these audio files aren’t lossless (which is 1,411 kbps).

Is Lossless Audio the New Hi-Fi? It’s Not That 
Simple


Best regards,
Sieghard

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2024 9:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sonos headphones are here

Since I have had the Apple Airpods Max since they came out, unless they die, I 
don’t see any real need to buy these.
The extra battery life looks great, but to my ears, the Apple Airpods Max are 
fantastic.

Like you say, since they didn’t include Wi-Fi, the battery life is really the 
only thing I would want, but only if these die.



Richard, USA
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2024 9:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sonos headphones are here

No worries Richard, now instead of posting the first message I'll simply say 
that I am deeply disappointed that these are just another pair of super 
expensive Bluetooth headsets. I really thought that apart from that they would 
also support Wi-Fi connectivity when you are at home as all other Sonos 
products do and that they could be used as any other Sonos player and could be 
grouped with other Sonos players if, for example, my wife was watching a movie 
on our Arc surround setup and I wanted to listen on the headset while I was 
doing something else. Apparently it is very easy to transfer

Re: IOS 17.5.1 and SIRI

2024-05-21 Thread Joshua Hendrickson

The update is very small. Just update, Siri works just fine in this latest update.Sent from My totally awesome iPhone!!On May 21, 2024, at 11:09 AM, Paula Jordan  wrote:Hi everyone.  I noticed that 17.5.1 is now available.  Since SIRI seems to be working quite well under 17.5, I am reluctant to update.  I don’t want to screw up a good thing.  Has anyone noticed any negative changes?  Thanks.God bless!Paula and the pups



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Re: Sonos headphones are here

2024-05-21 Thread Feliciano Godoy

What a lost opportunity from Sonos. They could have waited and implemented 
technology so that they can work with their ecosystem. to go.
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On May 21, 2024, at 10:06 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


I always find it funny when companies and Sonos is included here, claim they 
support lossless audio via Bluetooth which is simply not possible. I'm not 
saying it doesn't sound very good, but even the most current and modern 
Bluetooth version and protocols have limitations when it comes to how much 
information can be streamed ant 1411 Kbps which is truly lossless audio is not 
possible, here is an excerpt from an article I recently read on Gear Patrol, I 
am putting the link to the full article below:

Can lossless audio be streamed over Bluetooth?
The short answer is no.
In order to listen to lossless digital audio files, you have two main options. 
You can use an analog connection, like connecting your wired headphones
to your smartphone or computer. Or you can stream the lossless audio over 
Wi-Fi, through a pair of
active speakers, such as KEF Wireless II or even multi-room speaker like Sonos.
There are technologies that let you stream high bitrate audio over Bluetooth. 
For example, if your smartphone and headphones support either of some audio 
codecs, such as Sony’s LDAC (up to 990 kbps) or Qualcomm’s aptX Adaptive (up to 
570 kbps), you can stream stream high bitrate and low latency audio files over 
Bluetooth. However, these audio files aren’t lossless (which is 1,411 kbps).

Is Lossless Audio the New Hi-Fi? It’s Not That 
Simple


Best regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2024 9:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sonos headphones are here

Since I have had the Apple Airpods Max since they came out, unless they die, I 
don’t see any real need to buy these.
The extra battery life looks great, but to my ears, the Apple Airpods Max are 
fantastic.

Like you say, since they didn’t include Wi-Fi, the battery life is really the 
only thing I would want, but only if these die.



Richard, USA
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disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. 
Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009)

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2024 9:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Sonos headphones are here

No worries Richard, now instead of posting the first message I'll simply say 
that I am deeply disappointed that these are just another pair of super 
expensive Bluetooth headsets. I really thought that apart from that they would 
also support Wi-Fi connectivity when you are at home as all other Sonos 
products do and that they could be used as any other Sonos player and could be 
grouped with other Sonos players if, for example, my wife was watching a movie 
on our Arc surround setup and I wanted to listen on the headset while I was 
doing something else. Apparently it is very easy to transfer whatever is 
playing on another Sonos speaker to the headset which is somewhat nice, but I 
find it disappointing nonetheless. The first review I just read did sound 
positive in terms of the headset's design and sound quality. Apparently it is a 
definite step up from Apple's Airpods Max at a $100 lower price point and also 
competes well against Sony's top of the line offering. I may order one just to 
experience it, but I am 95% certain that I would probably send it back. Here 
the link to the review from Cult of Mac:

Sonos Ace headphones, the company's first, take on AirPods Max | Cult of 
Mac

From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2024 7:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Sonos headphones are here



Sorry Sieghared to beat you to the punch, but for those waiting for Sonos to 
release headphones, they announced them today.  They will be available June 5th 
for $449 US.
https://www.sonos.com/en-us/shop/sonos-ace


Richard, USA
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disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or 
you're going to stand on the

Re: Can't Add Bookshare Books to VoiceDream

2024-05-21 Thread Kerry Macdonald

I am having the exact same issue with the same phone and operating system.KerrySent from my iPhoneOn May 21, 2024, at 10:30 AM, Jody ianuzzi  wrote:I am using an SE3 and I'm running iOS 17.4.1. Sometimes this happens and sometimes it doesn't. It's very strange.JODYTo Boldly Go   thunderwalker...@gmail.com "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS  Erik WeihenmayerOn May 21, 2024, at 10:08 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:I just started a word file playing.I paused and switched to mail.I switched back to VDR and it picked up where I left off.I did the same with an MP3 file.It also picked up where I stopped it after switching to Mail… Which phone and which iOS are you using? I’m on the 13 pro iOS 17.5.   Richard, USA"It's no great honor to be blind, but it's more than a nuisance and less than a disaster. Either you're going to fight like hell when your sight fails or you're going to stand on the sidelines for the rest of your life." -- Dr. Margaret Rockwell Phanstiehl Founder of Audio Description (1932-2009) My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jody ianuzziSent: Tuesday, May 21, 2024 6:48 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: Can't Add Bookshare Books to VoiceDream The latest problem that I have with Voice Dream Reeder is that if I go to a different app and then return to Voice Dream reader and hit play it doesn't work. I have to remove the app from the app switcher and start again and then it will work.JODYTo Boldly Go   thunderwalker...@gmail.com "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS  Erik WeihenmayerOn May 21, 2024, at 5:37 AM, Dennis Long  wrote:One other question that’s just popped into my brain. What if they paid for a subscription again in good face that these features would work you are now in violation of the App Store agreement which states you cannot take features away you took features away and didn’t tell the user so are you going to refund their money or are you going to restore functionality?  Dennis LongSent from my iPhone 15 Pro MaxOn May 21, 2024, at 5:01 AM, Arnold Schmidt  wrote:I remember that CC is using 16.x, I had suspected that that was the problem.  I think that is unfortunate that they start dropping features so soon for those who are using older ios's. Even Apple gives the ios 16 users security updates for this year.  I know a lot of people who are still using their iphone 8 every day, and one who still uses a 7 with ios 15. Not everybody can, or wants to,  afford that 15 pro max. And those who are still using their iphone 8 are about to be two generations out of date. Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3On May 20, 2024, at 6:29 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:If you are using iOS 16.x that could be the issue. A friend discovered yesterday that after updating from iOS 16 something to 17.5 the download button was back. I'd recommend writing to the support folks through the Voice Dream, Settings, Email support.  Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On May 20, 2024, at 3:18 PM, CC  wrote:Folks, Version 4.34.4 is now available. Still no download option. Going to bookshare on the web, downloading to files app, then transferring to VDR, is doable, but cumbersome. On Sunday, May 12, 2024 at 9:07:58 PM UTC-4 Richard Turner wrote:First Bookshare's response doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Once the book is downloaded, you do not need internet access. So, I'm not sure what they mean. I never had any issue switching to another app, and then coming back to Voice Dream and continuing reading a book.   Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/  On May 12, 2024, at 2:27 PM, Jenifer Barr  wrote:When I contacted bookshare about this... they said sometimes books are taken offline due to copyright etc. The skeliton is still there but the book is taken down. (shrug)  Sent from my iPhoneOn May 12, 2024, at 5:10 PM, Jody ianuzzi  wrote:Oh I can add books from Bookshare to my voic Voice Dream reader but I have another problem. If I go to a different app and then go back to the Voice Dream reader and hit play nothing happens. I have to remove it from the app switcher and start again and then it's OK.Has anyone else had this problem?JODYTo Boldly Go   thunderw...@gmail.com "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS  Erik WeihenmayerOn May 12, 2024, at 12:28 PM, CC  wrote:Thanx, Richard. A three finger swipe down, refreshed the, recently updated

RE: Sonos headphones are here