RE: Iphone 15 pro max volume-up-down causes announcing ringtone mode

[davycuppens]

Folks 

 

Problem solved, see the Apple accessibility answer and they are right:

 

you for your email. The behavior occurs when you have Change with Buttons
turned on in Settings > Sounds & Haptics. This alert is to let you know that
you are modifying the Ringer and Alerts volume and not the system or
VoiceOver volume. Visually, there is a separate indicator at the top of the
display that shows the Ringer volume.

 

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Verzonden: maandag 11 maart 2024 13:32
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: Iphone 15 pro max volume-up-down causes announcing ringtone mode 

 

Hi folks 

 

With older iphones, we had a switch key underneath the volume buttons, now
the iphone 15 pro has an action button for which I have set another action
than sound on or off. 

 

But now when I press volume-up, very regularly, my iphone announces the word
ringtone mode. Can anybody reproduce this, is this normal behaviour or a
bug?

Davy 

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RE: Iphone 15 pro max volume-up-down causes announcing ringtone mode

[Carolyn Arnold]

On my iPhone 14 Pro, Silent Mode and Ring Mode are what is announced when 
muting or unmuting my phone. 

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Subject: Iphone 15 pro max volume-up-down causes announcing ringtone mode

Hi folks 

 

With older iphones, we had a switch key underneath the volume buttons, now the 
iphone 15 pro has an action button for which I have set another action than 
sound on or off. 

 

But now when I press volume-up, very regularly, my iphone announces the word 
ringtone mode. Can anybody reproduce this, is this normal behaviour or a bug?

Davy 

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Iphone 15 pro max volume-up-down causes announcing ringtone mode

[davycuppens]

Hi folks 

 

With older iphones, we had a switch key underneath the volume buttons, now
the iphone 15 pro has an action button for which I have set another action
than sound on or off. 

 

But now when I press volume-up, very regularly, my iphone announces the word
ringtone mode. Can anybody reproduce this, is this normal behaviour or a
bug?

Davy 

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RE: PROBLEMS WITH SIRI ON THE IPHONE 15 PRO

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Same on my iPhone 13 Pro, primarily I suggest you send a message to 
accessibil...@apple.com<mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> since I would say this 
is primarily an issue when you use Voiceover.


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Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 3:23 AM
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Subject: PROBLEMS WITH SIRI ON THE IPHONE 15 PRO

When I dictate a message on Siri, Siri begins to repeat it and then cuts off 
without reading my whole dictation. A few seconds later, Siri states the 
message fully.

Any suggestions?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
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Subject: RE: What's the difference between chat gpt and copilot?

No difference as far as I know, Copilot is an app from Microsoft which uses 
Chat GPT to generate answers.


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Rena
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Subject: What's the difference between chat gpt and copilot?

Hi,

I was going to install chat gpt in my iPhone when I read about copilot, and I 
have doubts what to choose.

Rena
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RE: PROBLEMS WITH SIRI ON THE IPHONE 15 PRO

[Kenny Nead]

I just did the 5 steps to redo Siri, so far it seems to be working better, but 
will have to wait and see how it goes.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of MMMAT
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 11:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: PROBLEMS WITH SIRI ON THE IPHONE 15 PRO

I had the same problem on an iPhone 14 and have a friend who is experiencing 
the issue on an iPhone 13 mini.  I spoke to Apple Accessibility and they had me 
turn off Siri and then turn it back on.  When you turn it back on, it asks you 
to speak 5 phrases to train Siri on your voice.

It improved how Siri functioned, but the problem did not completely go away.  
Give this a try and let us know how you make out.

Regards,
Mario

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kenny 
Nead
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024, 10:56 AM
To: viph...@googlegroups.scom<mailto:viph...@googlegroups.scom>
Subject: RE: PROBLEMS WITH SIRI ON THE IPHONE 15 PRO

I had the same problem with my 13, so I bought a 15 pro, and it still does the 
same thing.

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of John 
J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: PROBLEMS WITH SIRI ON THE IPHONE 15 PRO

It was happening on the SE as well!

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 09:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: PROBLEMS WITH SIRI ON THE IPHONE 15 PRO

Report this to Apple Accessibility.




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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of John 
J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 3:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: PROBLEMS WITH SIRI ON THE IPHONE 15 PRO

When I dictate a message on Siri, Siri begins to repeat it and then cuts off 
without reading my whole dictation. A few seconds later, Siri states the 
message fully.

Any suggestions?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2024 01:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: What's the difference between chat gpt and copilot?

No difference as far as I know, Copilot is an app from Microsoft which uses 
Chat GPT to generate answers.


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Friday, January 5, 2024 6:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: What's the difference between chat gpt and copilot?

Hi,

I was going to install chat gpt in my iPhone when I read about copilot, and I 
have doubts what to choose.

Rena
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RE: PROBLEMS WITH SIRI ON THE IPHONE 15 PRO

[Kenny Nead]

It seemed like it started when updated to 17.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of MMMAT
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 11:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: PROBLEMS WITH SIRI ON THE IPHONE 15 PRO

I had the same problem on an iPhone 14 and have a friend who is experiencing 
the issue on an iPhone 13 mini.  I spoke to Apple Accessibility and they had me 
turn off Siri and then turn it back on.  When you turn it back on, it asks you 
to speak 5 phrases to train Siri on your voice.

It improved how Siri functioned, but the problem did not completely go away.  
Give this a try and let us know how you make out.

Regards,
Mario

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kenny 
Nead
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024, 10:56 AM
To: viph...@googlegroups.scom<mailto:viph...@googlegroups.scom>
Subject: RE: PROBLEMS WITH SIRI ON THE IPHONE 15 PRO

I had the same problem with my 13, so I bought a 15 pro, and it still does the 
same thing.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of John 
J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: PROBLEMS WITH SIRI ON THE IPHONE 15 PRO

It was happening on the SE as well!

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 09:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: PROBLEMS WITH SIRI ON THE IPHONE 15 PRO

Report this to Apple Accessibility.




Richard, USA
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My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of John 
J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 3:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: PROBLEMS WITH SIRI ON THE IPHONE 15 PRO

When I dictate a message on Siri, Siri begins to repeat it and then cuts off 
without reading my whole dictation. A few seconds later, Siri states the 
message fully.

Any suggestions?

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2024 01:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: What's the difference between chat gpt and copilot?

No difference as far as I know, Copilot is an app from Microsoft which uses 
Chat GPT to generate answers.


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Friday, January 5, 2024 6:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: What's the difference between chat gpt and copilot?

Hi,

I was going to install chat gpt in my iPhone when I read about copilot, and I 
have doubts what to choose.

Rena
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RE: PROBLEMS WITH SIRI ON THE IPHONE 15 PRO

[MMMAT]

I had the same problem on an iPhone 14 and have a friend who is experiencing 
the issue on an iPhone 13 mini.  I spoke to Apple Accessibility and they had me 
turn off Siri and then turn it back on.  When you turn it back on, it asks you 
to speak 5 phrases to train Siri on your voice.
 
It improved how Siri functioned, but the problem did not completely go away.  
Give this a try and let us know how you make out.
 
Regards,
Mario 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kenny 
Nead
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024, 10:56 AM
To: viph...@googlegroups.scom
Subject: RE: PROBLEMS WITH SIRI ON THE IPHONE 15 PRO
 
I had the same problem with my 13, so I bought a 15 pro, and it still does the 
same thing.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of John 
J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 10:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: PROBLEMS WITH SIRI ON THE IPHONE 15 PRO
 
It was happening on the SE as well!
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 09:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: PROBLEMS WITH SIRI ON THE IPHONE 15 PRO
 
Report this to Apple Accessibility.
 
 
 
 
Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
 
Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 
JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of John 
J. Fioravanti, Jr.
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 3:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: PROBLEMS WITH SIRI ON THE IPHONE 15 PRO
 
When I dictate a message on Siri, Siri begins to repeat it and then cuts off 
without reading my whole dictation. A few seconds later, Siri states the 
message fully. 
 
Any suggestions?
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2024 01:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: What's the difference between chat gpt and copilot?
 
No difference as far as I know, Copilot is an app from Microsoft which uses 
Chat GPT to generate answers.
 
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Friday, January 5, 2024 6:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: What's the difference between chat gpt and copilot?
 
Hi,
 
I was going to install chat gpt in my iPhone when I read about copilot, and I 
have doubts what to choose.
 
Rena
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RE: PROBLEMS WITH SIRI ON THE IPHONE 15 PRO

[Kenny Nead]

I had the same problem with my 13, so I bought a 15 pro, and it still does the 
same thing.

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Fioravanti, Jr.
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It was happening on the SE as well!

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Report this to Apple Accessibility.




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Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715),
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When I dictate a message on Siri, Siri begins to repeat it and then cuts off 
without reading my whole dictation. A few seconds later, Siri states the 
message fully.

Any suggestions?

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
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Subject: RE: What's the difference between chat gpt and copilot?

No difference as far as I know, Copilot is an app from Microsoft which uses 
Chat GPT to generate answers.


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Hi,

I was going to install chat gpt in my iPhone when I read about copilot, and I 
have doubts what to choose.

Rena
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[John J. Fioravanti, Jr.]

It was happening on the SE as well!

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
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Report this to Apple Accessibility.

 

 

 

 

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on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

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JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

 

 

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Subject: PROBLEMS WITH SIRI ON THE IPHONE 15 PRO

 

When I dictate a message on Siri, Siri begins to repeat it and then cuts off 
without reading my whole dictation. A few seconds later, Siri states the 
message fully. 

 

Any suggestions?

 

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No difference as far as I know, Copilot is an app from Microsoft which uses 
Chat GPT to generate answers.

 

 

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Hi,

 

I was going to install chat gpt in my iPhone when I read about copilot, and I 
have doubts what to choose.

 

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RE: PROBLEMS WITH SIRI ON THE IPHONE 15 PRO

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Report this to Apple Accessibility.

 

 

 

 

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When I dictate a message on Siri, Siri begins to repeat it and then cuts off 
without reading my whole dictation. A few seconds later, Siri states the 
message fully. 

 

Any suggestions?

 

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No difference as far as I know, Copilot is an app from Microsoft which uses 
Chat GPT to generate answers.

 

 

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Hi,

 

I was going to install chat gpt in my iPhone when I read about copilot, and I 
have doubts what to choose.

 

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PROBLEMS WITH SIRI ON THE IPHONE 15 PRO

[John J. Fioravanti, Jr.]

When I dictate a message on Siri, Siri begins to repeat it and then cuts off 
without reading my whole dictation. A few seconds later, Siri states the 
message fully. 

 

Any suggestions?

 

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No difference as far as I know, Copilot is an app from Microsoft which uses 
Chat GPT to generate answers.

 

 

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Hi,

 

I was going to install chat gpt in my iPhone when I read about copilot, and I 
have doubts what to choose.

 

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OPENING MUSIC FILES IN ONE DRIVE ON MY IPHONE 15 PRO

[John J. Fioravanti, Jr.]

Good morning:



I haven’t used my One Drive for some time on my iPhone, and I recently signed 
in again.

 

When I attempt to play a music file, I double-tap on the file and it says: that 
the file is selected, however, it doesn’t play. I recall  figuring this out 
some time ago, but can’t remember how to solve the problem. 

 

Any help would be appreciated.

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RE: Voiceover Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

[Richard]

Thank you. The issue is resolved. The Apple Store completely reset the phone. 
(None of the Accessibility commands would operate for them, as they had not 
worked for me. Restarting the phone didn’t work for me or for the Apple Store 
either.) Their reset was complete. I lost many phone settings.

I imagine music would have played. The phone was not silent. The VoiceOver 
clicks and other sounds could be heard, just not the voice.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jessica 
Dail
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2023 8:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Voiceover Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

 

Hi, 

Can you play some sort of audio like music or a podcast & see if that part 
works? 

Do you have access to a computer with itunes? 

If so, try pluging in the phone, then looking for something which reads either, 
"universal access" or "accessibility." 

If you find one of these buttons, press the spacebar on it. 

VO space if you're on a mac. 

Let me know if that helps. 

Best regards, 

Jessica Dail





On Dec 29, 2023, at 12:42 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:

 The Siri stopping speaking is a known iOS 17 issue that has nothing to do 
with VoiceOver. 

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

 









On Dec 28, 2023, at 8:52 PM, Kenny Nead mailto:knea...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

My 15 Prosome times stops speaking when Siri is reading a text, just wondering 
what carrier do you have? I had a 13, and it did the same thing, that is part 
of the reason I bought the 15 Pro. Oh, I have T mobile. 

Kenny

 

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Richard
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Subject: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

 

If anyone has a solution to what I describe below, I will appreciate your help.

 

This evening VoiceOver stopped speaking on my iPhone 15 Pro.

1.  I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe up to 
activate the phone, but no speech.
2.  I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe left and 
right, but no speech.
3.  I’ve turned the volume up high; the VoiceOver sounds get louder, but no 
speech.
4.  A three finger double tap does not bring up speech as it should.
5.  I have attempted to use the voice command, “Siri, turn speech on,” or  
“Siri, turn speech off.” Neither will voice.
6.  I have checked for Bluetooth devices that might be connected, but all 
are turned off. Also, if this were a Bluetooth conflict, I don’t think I would 
be hearing the VoiceOver sounds.

 

Thanks very much.

 

Richard Petty

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RE: Apple Store Repair: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

[Richard]

Good point. I'll keep checking the list for other occurrences.

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Weitzel
Sent: Friday, December 29, 2023 2:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Apple Store Repair: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

Something unusual can always happen and unless it ihappens again it is just 
that, a strange occurance.
If iOS 17.2 had a major issue where Voiceover would disappear like that, I am 
sure others on the list would have experienced it as well.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 12:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Store Repair: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

At the Apple Store, the techs were only able to restore speech after a complete 
reset of the phone. After the complete reset VoiceOver began operating. 
Apparently there are no technical bulletins on this issue.

None of the accessibility settings restored speech. Typical reboots did not 
work either. 

As noted, I am suspicious of iOS 17.2.1.

Thanks to all who offered assistance.

Richard Petty
richard.pe...@earthlink.net





-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 11:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

Amazing! That worked for Siri to restart my phone! Thanks. 

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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 12:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

Have you tried to restart your iPhone? If Siri works and you can give commands, 
just say “Restart my iPhone”, Siri will ask if you want to do this, say Yes and 
 your phone will reboot.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 6:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

 

If anyone has a solution to what I describe below, I will appreciate your help.

 

This evening VoiceOver stopped speaking on my iPhone 15 Pro.

*   I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe up to 
activate the phone, but no speech.
*   I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe left and 
right, but no speech.
*   I’ve turned the volume up high; the VoiceOver sounds get louder, but no 
speech.
*   A three finger double tap does not bring up speech as it should.
*   I have attempted to use the voice command, “Siri, turn speech on,” or  
“Siri, turn speech off.” Neither will voice.
*   I have checked for Bluetooth devices that might be connected, but all 
are turned off. Also, if this were a Bluetooth conflict, I don’t think I would 
be hearing the VoiceOver sounds.

 

Thanks very much.

 

Richard Petty

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RE: Apple Store Repair: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Something unusual can always happen and unless it ihappens again it is just 
that, a strange occurance.
If iOS 17.2 had a major issue where Voiceover would disappear like that, I am 
sure others on the list would have experienced it as well.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 12:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple Store Repair: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

At the Apple Store, the techs were only able to restore speech after a complete 
reset of the phone. After the complete reset VoiceOver began operating. 
Apparently there are no technical bulletins on this issue.

None of the accessibility settings restored speech. Typical reboots did not 
work either. 

As noted, I am suspicious of iOS 17.2.1.

Thanks to all who offered assistance.

Richard Petty
richard.pe...@earthlink.net





-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 11:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

Amazing! That worked for Siri to restart my phone! Thanks. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 12:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

Have you tried to restart your iPhone? If Siri works and you can give commands, 
just say “Restart my iPhone”, Siri will ask if you want to do this, say Yes and 
 your phone will reboot.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 6:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

 

If anyone has a solution to what I describe below, I will appreciate your help.

 

This evening VoiceOver stopped speaking on my iPhone 15 Pro.

*   I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe up to 
activate the phone, but no speech.
*   I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe left and 
right, but no speech.
*   I’ve turned the volume up high; the VoiceOver sounds get louder, but no 
speech.
*   A three finger double tap does not bring up speech as it should.
*   I have attempted to use the voice command, “Siri, turn speech on,” or  
“Siri, turn speech off.” Neither will voice.
*   I have checked for Bluetooth devices that might be connected, but all 
are turned off. Also, if this were a Bluetooth conflict, I don’t think I would 
be hearing the VoiceOver sounds.

 

Thanks very much.

 

Richard Petty

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Re: Voiceover Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

[Jessica Dail]

Hi,
Can you play some sort of audio like music or a podcast & see if that part 
works?
Do you have access to a computer with itunes?
If so, try pluging in the phone, then looking for something which reads either, 
"universal access" or "accessibility."
If you find one of these buttons, press the spacebar on it.
VO space if you're on a mac.
Let me know if that helps.
Best regards,
Jessica Dail

On Dec 29, 2023, at 12:42 AM, Richard Turner  
wrote:

 The Siri stopping speaking is a known iOS 17 issue that has nothing to do 
with VoiceOver.


Richard, USA
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on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
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On Dec 28, 2023, at 8:52 PM, Kenny Nead  wrote:


My 15 Prosome times stops speaking when Siri is reading a text, just wondering 
what carrier do you have? I had a 13, and it did the same thing, that is part 
of the reason I bought the 15 Pro. Oh, I have T mobile.
Kenny

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 9:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

If anyone has a solution to what I describe below, I will appreciate your help.

This evening VoiceOver stopped speaking on my iPhone 15 Pro.

  *   I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe up to activate 
the phone, but no speech.
  *   I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe left and right, 
but no speech.
  *   I’ve turned the volume up high; the VoiceOver sounds get louder, but no 
speech.
  *   A three finger double tap does not bring up speech as it should.
  *   I have attempted to use the voice command, “Siri, turn speech on,” or  
“Siri, turn speech off.” Neither will voice.
  *   I have checked for Bluetooth devices that might be connected, but all are 
turned off. Also, if this were a Bluetooth conflict, I don’t think I would be 
hearing the VoiceOver sounds.

Thanks very much.

Richard Petty
richard.pe...@earthlink.net<mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net>
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Re: Voiceover Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

[Richard Turner]

The Siri stopping speaking is a known iOS 17 issue that has nothing to do with VoiceOver.Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Dec 28, 2023, at 8:52 PM, Kenny Nead  wrote:







My 15 Prosome times stops speaking when Siri is reading a text, just wondering what carrier do you have? I had a 13, and it did the same thing, that is part of the reason I bought the 15 Pro. Oh, I have T mobile.

Kenny
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
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Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 9:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro


 
If anyone has a solution to what I describe below, I will appreciate your help.
 
This evening VoiceOver stopped speaking on my iPhone 15 Pro.

I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe up to activate the phone, but no speech.I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe left and right, but no speech.I’ve turned the volume up high; the VoiceOver sounds get louder, but no speech.A three finger double tap does not bring up speech as it should.I have attempted to use the voice command, “Siri, turn speech on,” or  “Siri, turn speech off.” Neither will voice.I have checked for Bluetooth devices that might be connected, but all are turned off. Also, if this were a Bluetooth conflict, I don’t think I would be hearing the VoiceOver sounds.
 
Thanks very much.
 
Richard Petty
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RE: Voiceover Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

[Kenny Nead]

My 15 Prosome times stops speaking when Siri is reading a text, just wondering 
what carrier do you have? I had a 13, and it did the same thing, that is part 
of the reason I bought the 15 Pro. Oh, I have T mobile.
Kenny

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 9:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

If anyone has a solution to what I describe below, I will appreciate your help.

This evening VoiceOver stopped speaking on my iPhone 15 Pro.

  *   I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe up to activate 
the phone, but no speech.
  *   I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe left and right, 
but no speech.
  *   I’ve turned the volume up high; the VoiceOver sounds get louder, but no 
speech.
  *   A three finger double tap does not bring up speech as it should.
  *   I have attempted to use the voice command, “Siri, turn speech on,” or  
“Siri, turn speech off.” Neither will voice.
  *   I have checked for Bluetooth devices that might be connected, but all are 
turned off. Also, if this were a Bluetooth conflict, I don’t think I would be 
hearing the VoiceOver sounds.

Thanks very much.

Richard Petty
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Apple Store Repair: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

[Richard]

At the Apple Store, the techs were only able to restore speech after a complete 
reset of the phone. After the complete reset VoiceOver began operating. 
Apparently there are no technical bulletins on this issue.

None of the accessibility settings restored speech. Typical reboots did not 
work either. 

As noted, I am suspicious of iOS 17.2.1.

Thanks to all who offered assistance.

Richard Petty
richard.pe...@earthlink.net





-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn 
Arnold
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 11:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

Amazing! That worked for Siri to restart my phone! Thanks. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 12:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

Have you tried to restart your iPhone? If Siri works and you can give commands, 
just say “Restart my iPhone”, Siri will ask if you want to do this, say Yes and 
 your phone will reboot.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 6:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

 

If anyone has a solution to what I describe below, I will appreciate your help.

 

This evening VoiceOver stopped speaking on my iPhone 15 Pro.

*   I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe up to 
activate the phone, but no speech.
*   I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe left and 
right, but no speech.
*   I’ve turned the volume up high; the VoiceOver sounds get louder, but no 
speech.
*   A three finger double tap does not bring up speech as it should.
*   I have attempted to use the voice command, “Siri, turn speech on,” or  
“Siri, turn speech off.” Neither will voice.
*   I have checked for Bluetooth devices that might be connected, but all 
are turned off. Also, if this were a Bluetooth conflict, I don’t think I would 
be hearing the VoiceOver sounds.

 

Thanks very much.

 

Richard Petty

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RE: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

[Carolyn Arnold]

Also, maybe get something talking and turn up Volume. 

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Hello Richard,
Have you tried to use headset? If you try and get VoiceOver, let me know I will 
let you know something else 


Lyne


Le 28 déc. 2023 à 09:42, Richard  a écrit :





Sieghard,

 

Thank you. That was one of my first attempts. This did not resolve the 
problem.

 

By the way, activating Siri was tricky. It was necessary to unlock the 
phone for Siri voice commands to work. Eventually, with briefly available 
sighted help, I entered my ID code and Siri functioned.

 

I appreciate your recommendation.

 

Richard Petty

richard.pe...@earthlink.net <mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net> 

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 11:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

 

Have you tried to restart your iPhone? If Siri works and you can give 
commands, just say “Restart my iPhone”, Siri will ask if you want to do this, 
say Yes and  your phone will reboot.

 

 

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Richard
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 6:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

 

If anyone has a solution to what I describe below, I will appreciate 
your help.

 

This evening VoiceOver stopped speaking on my iPhone 15 Pro.

*   I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe up to 
activate the phone, but no speech.
*   I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe left 
and right, but no speech.
*   I’ve turned the volume up high; the VoiceOver sounds get 
louder, but no speech.
*   A three finger double tap does not bring up speech as it should.
*   I have attempted to use the voice command, “Siri, turn speech 
on,” or  “Siri, turn speech off.” Neither will voice.
*   I have checked for Bluetooth devices that might be connected, 
but all are turned off. Also, if this were a Bluetooth conflict, I don’t think 
I would be hearing the VoiceOver sounds.

 

Thanks very much.

 

Richard Petty

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RE: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

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Amazing! That worked for Siri to restart my phone! Thanks. 

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Have you tried to restart your iPhone? If Siri works and you can give commands, 
just say “Restart my iPhone”, Siri will ask if you want to do this, say Yes and 
 your phone will reboot.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 6:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

 

If anyone has a solution to what I describe below, I will appreciate your help.

 

This evening VoiceOver stopped speaking on my iPhone 15 Pro.

*   I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe up to 
activate the phone, but no speech.
*   I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe left and 
right, but no speech.
*   I’ve turned the volume up high; the VoiceOver sounds get louder, but no 
speech.
*   A three finger double tap does not bring up speech as it should.
*   I have attempted to use the voice command, “Siri, turn speech on,” or  
“Siri, turn speech off.” Neither will voice.
*   I have checked for Bluetooth devices that might be connected, but all 
are turned off. Also, if this were a Bluetooth conflict, I don’t think I would 
be hearing the VoiceOver sounds.

 

Thanks very much.

 

Richard Petty

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RE: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

[Richard]

Thank you, but no, that wasn’t a solution.

 

I have called Apple disability technical support; however, they were unable to 
solve the problem. I am now on the way to my local Apple store.

 

I am now suspicious that this has something to do with the iOS 17.2.1 update. 
We’ll know after the Apple Store techs reactivate my phone. I will update the 
list as I know more.

 

Thanks again.

 

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Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2023 8:56 AM
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Hello Richard,

Have you tried to use headset? If you try and get VoiceOver, let me know I will 
let you know something else 

Lyne





Le 28 déc. 2023 à 09:42, Richard  a écrit :



Sieghard,

 

Thank you. That was one of my first attempts. This did not resolve the problem.

 

By the way, activating Siri was tricky. It was necessary to unlock the phone 
for Siri voice commands to work. Eventually, with briefly available sighted 
help, I entered my ID code and Siri functioned.

 

I appreciate your recommendation.

 

Richard Petty

richard.pe...@earthlink.net <mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net> 

 

 

 

 

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Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 11:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

 

Have you tried to restart your iPhone? If Siri works and you can give commands, 
just say “Restart my iPhone”, Siri will ask if you want to do this, say Yes and 
 your phone will reboot.

 

 

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Richard
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

 

If anyone has a solution to what I describe below, I will appreciate your help.

 

This evening VoiceOver stopped speaking on my iPhone 15 Pro.

1.  I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe up to 
activate the phone, but no speech.
2.  I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe left and 
right, but no speech.
3.  I’ve turned the volume up high; the VoiceOver sounds get louder, but no 
speech.
4.  A three finger double tap does not bring up speech as it should.
5.  I have attempted to use the voice command, “Siri, turn speech on,” or  
“Siri, turn speech off.” Neither will voice.
6.  I have checked for Bluetooth devices that might be connected, but all 
are turned off. Also, if this were a Bluetooth conflict, I don’t think I would 
be hearing the VoiceOver sounds.

 

Thanks very much.

 

Richard Petty

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Re: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

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Hello Richard,
Have you tried to use headset? If you try and get VoiceOver, let me know I will 
let you know something else 

Lyne

> Le 28 déc. 2023 à 09:42, Richard  a écrit :
> 
> 
> Sieghard,
>  
> Thank you. That was one of my first attempts. This did not resolve the 
> problem.
>  
> By the way, activating Siri was tricky. It was necessary to unlock the phone 
> for Siri voice commands to work. Eventually, with briefly available sighted 
> help, I entered my ID code and Siri functioned.
>  
> I appreciate your recommendation.
>  
> Richard Petty
> richard.pe...@earthlink.net
>  
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 11:45 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro
>  
> Have you tried to restart your iPhone? If Siri works and you can give 
> commands, just say “Restart my iPhone”, Siri will ask if you want to do this, 
> say Yes and  your phone will reboot.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
> Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 6:07 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro
>  
> If anyone has a solution to what I describe below, I will appreciate your 
> help.
>  
> This evening VoiceOver stopped speaking on my iPhone 15 Pro.
> I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe up to activate the 
> phone, but no speech.
> I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe left and right, but 
> no speech.
> I’ve turned the volume up high; the VoiceOver sounds get louder, but no 
> speech.
> A three finger double tap does not bring up speech as it should.
> I have attempted to use the voice command, “Siri, turn speech on,” or  “Siri, 
> turn speech off.” Neither will voice.
> I have checked for Bluetooth devices that might be connected, but all are 
> turned off. Also, if this were a Bluetooth conflict, I don’t think I would be 
> hearing the VoiceOver sounds.
>  
> Thanks very much.
>  
> Richard Petty
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RE: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

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Sieghard,

 

Thank you. That was one of my first attempts. This did not resolve the problem.

 

By the way, activating Siri was tricky. It was necessary to unlock the phone 
for Siri voice commands to work. Eventually, with briefly available sighted 
help, I entered my ID code and Siri functioned.

 

I appreciate your recommendation.

 

Richard Petty

richard.pe...@earthlink.net <mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net> 

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 11:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

 

Have you tried to restart your iPhone? If Siri works and you can give commands, 
just say “Restart my iPhone”, Siri will ask if you want to do this, say Yes and 
 your phone will reboot.

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 6:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

 

If anyone has a solution to what I describe below, I will appreciate your help.

 

This evening VoiceOver stopped speaking on my iPhone 15 Pro.

*   I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe up to 
activate the phone, but no speech.
*   I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe left and 
right, but no speech.
*   I’ve turned the volume up high; the VoiceOver sounds get louder, but no 
speech.
*   A three finger double tap does not bring up speech as it should.
*   I have attempted to use the voice command, “Siri, turn speech on,” or  
“Siri, turn speech off.” Neither will voice.
*   I have checked for Bluetooth devices that might be connected, but all 
are turned off. Also, if this were a Bluetooth conflict, I don’t think I would 
be hearing the VoiceOver sounds.

 

Thanks very much.

 

Richard Petty

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RE: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

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Have you tried to restart your iPhone? If Siri works and you can give commands, 
just say “Restart my iPhone”, Siri will ask if you want to do this, say Yes and 
 your phone will reboot.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 6:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

If anyone has a solution to what I describe below, I will appreciate your help.

This evening VoiceOver stopped speaking on my iPhone 15 Pro.

  *   I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe up to activate 
the phone, but no speech.
  *   I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe left and right, 
but no speech.
  *   I’ve turned the volume up high; the VoiceOver sounds get louder, but no 
speech.
  *   A three finger double tap does not bring up speech as it should.
  *   I have attempted to use the voice command, “Siri, turn speech on,” or  
“Siri, turn speech off.” Neither will voice.
  *   I have checked for Bluetooth devices that might be connected, but all are 
turned off. Also, if this were a Bluetooth conflict, I don’t think I would be 
hearing the VoiceOver sounds.

Thanks very much.

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RE: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

[M. Taylor]

Richard,

If you see well enough to disable the Bluetooth radio, on your 15, then you 
should be good to power down the device.

After restarting the 15, if you do not hear VO, make certain that both the 
Bluetooth and the WiFi radios are disabled.

Next, first disable and then enable VO.

Next, with a pair of wired ear pods attached, try that volume up button, again.

It sounds to me as though your phone is connected to CarPlay or some kind of 
external audio device.

Let us know how it goes.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 6:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

Dennis, thanks very much. I followed your recommendation to triple press the 
side button. Alas , no success. I’ll keep plugging away.

From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On 
Behalf Of Dennis Long
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 8:15 PM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

Triple press the side button then do it again.  I haven’t had this issue on the 
15 pro max.

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Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 9:07 PM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

If anyone has a solution to what I describe below, I will appreciate your help.

This evening VoiceOver stopped speaking on my iPhone 15 Pro.
• I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe up to activate the 
phone, but no speech.
• I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe left and right, but 
no speech.
• I’ve turned the volume up high; the VoiceOver sounds get louder, but no 
speech.
• A three finger double tap does not bring up speech as it should.
• I have attempted to use the voice command, “Siri, turn speech on,” or  “Siri, 
turn speech off.” Neither will voice.
• I have checked for Bluetooth devices that might be connected, but all are 
turned off. Also, if this were a Bluetooth conflict, I don’t think I would be 
hearing the VoiceOver sounds.

Thanks very much.

Richard Petty
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RE: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

[Richard]

Dennis, thanks very much. I followed your recommendation to triple press the 
side button. Alas , no success. I’ll keep plugging away.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 8:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

 

Triple press the side button then do it again.  I haven’t had this issue on the 
15 pro max.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 9:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

 

If anyone has a solution to what I describe below, I will appreciate your help.

 

This evening VoiceOver stopped speaking on my iPhone 15 Pro.

*   I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe up to 
activate the phone, but no speech.
*   I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe left and 
right, but no speech.
*   I’ve turned the volume up high; the VoiceOver sounds get louder, but no 
speech.
*   A three finger double tap does not bring up speech as it should.
*   I have attempted to use the voice command, “Siri, turn speech on,” or  
“Siri, turn speech off.” Neither will voice.
*   I have checked for Bluetooth devices that might be connected, but all 
are turned off. Also, if this were a Bluetooth conflict, I don’t think I would 
be hearing the VoiceOver sounds.

 

Thanks very much.

 

Richard Petty

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RE: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

[Dennis Long]

Triple press the side button then do it again.  I haven’t had this issue on the 
15 pro max.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2023 9:07 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro
 
If anyone has a solution to what I describe below, I will appreciate your help.
 
This evening VoiceOver stopped speaking on my iPhone 15 Pro.
*   I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe up to 
activate the phone, but no speech.
*   I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe left and 
right, but no speech.
*   I’ve turned the volume up high; the VoiceOver sounds get louder, but no 
speech.
*   A three finger double tap does not bring up speech as it should.
*   I have attempted to use the voice command, “Siri, turn speech on,” or  
“Siri, turn speech off.” Neither will voice.
*   I have checked for Bluetooth devices that might be connected, but all 
are turned off. Also, if this were a Bluetooth conflict, I don’t think I would 
be hearing the VoiceOver sounds.
 
Thanks very much.
 
Richard Petty
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VoiceOver Fails on iPhone 15 Pro

[Richard]

If anyone has a solution to what I describe below, I will appreciate your help.

 

This evening VoiceOver stopped speaking on my iPhone 15 Pro.

*   I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe up to 
activate the phone, but no speech.
*   I hear the VoiceOver clicks and other sounds when I swipe left and 
right, but no speech.
*   I’ve turned the volume up high; the VoiceOver sounds get louder, but no 
speech.
*   A three finger double tap does not bring up speech as it should.
*   I have attempted to use the voice command, “Siri, turn speech on,” or  
“Siri, turn speech off.” Neither will voice.
*   I have checked for Bluetooth devices that might be connected, but all 
are turned off. Also, if this were a Bluetooth conflict, I don’t think I would 
be hearing the VoiceOver sounds.

 

Thanks very much.

 

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Re: connecting my iPhone 14 Plus and my iPhone 15 Pro

[Vicky Collins]

Oh, and I forgot to add that the top three data usage apps were DIRECTV, 
Personal Hotspot, and App Store respectively.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 16, 2023, at 3:41 PM, Vicky Collins  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for all the info and no offense taken. I use the phone for all of my 
> internet type needs, including surfing the web, email, and watching TV. And 
> although this may change  with the new phones, the two iPhone mini phones I 
> have right now, neither of them can make it through a full day without having 
> to be charged. And too, should something happen with one of the phones, I 
> would still have a way to contact someone with the other one. I wanted to 
> stay with AT and get internet service with them, but they only offered in 
> my area a router or something that used cellular data with a limit of 50 GB, 
> anyway, so I just opted for the second line instead. My billing period starts 
> on the 27th of each month, and I just checked the cellular data usage on each 
> phone, as I reset every month right at the beginning of the billing period, 
> and one phone has used 24.1 GB while the other has used 24.7 GB so far.
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 16, 2023, at 1:39 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> And I am just curious, but why do you have two high-end iPhones? Like I 
>> say, I mean no offense, just want to know because I assume it means having 
>> two phone plans and even if you had one which is only $40 or so a months, 
>> that is still almost $500 a year. I have had an iphone for almost 15 years 
>> and I run a business as well as using it constantly for personal stuff and I 
>> have never felt the need for two devices. My wife and I have an iPad and 
>> even though my wife is sighted, it often sits there with an empty battery 
>> because we almost never use it and forget to charge it.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicky 
>> Collins
>> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2023 4:49 PM
>> To: VIPhone 
>> Subject: connecting my iPhone 14 Plus and my iPhone 15 Pro
>> 
>> I'm really bad about knowing the types of cables and adapters, but I need to 
>> know what to get for my iPhone 14 Plus and my iPhone 15 Pro. I am currently 
>> using whatever cable and adapter came with my iPhone 7 or something like 
>> that to charge the battery, And I purchased some kind of an adapter from the 
>> Apple Store to be able to use the earbuds with my current iPhone 12 mini and 
>> 13 mini. I guess I can't use just one cable and adapter and use them 
>> interchangeably to charge both phones anymore, and I guess I may have to get 
>> two separate wired earpods from Apple as well? Any help on what I need for 
>> charging the battery and using wired earpods for the 14 Plus and the 15 Pro 
>> would be appreciated. Thanks.
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: connecting my iPhone 14 Plus and my iPhone 15 Pro

[Vicky Collins]

Thanks for all the info and no offense taken. I use the phone for all of my 
internet type needs, including surfing the web, email, and watching TV. And 
although this may change  with the new phones, the two iPhone mini phones I 
have right now, neither of them can make it through a full day without having 
to be charged. And too, should something happen with one of the phones, I would 
still have a way to contact someone with the other one. I wanted to stay with 
AT and get internet service with them, but they only offered in my area a 
router or something that used cellular data with a limit of 50 GB, anyway, so I 
just opted for the second line instead. My billing period starts on the 27th of 
each month, and I just checked the cellular data usage on each phone, as I 
reset every month right at the beginning of the billing period, and one phone 
has used 24.1 GB while the other has used 24.7 GB so far. 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 16, 2023, at 1:39 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> And I am just curious, but why do you have two high-end iPhones? Like I say, 
> I mean no offense, just want to know because I assume it means having two 
> phone plans and even if you had one which is only $40 or so a months, that is 
> still almost $500 a year. I have had an iphone for almost 15 years and I run 
> a business as well as using it constantly for personal stuff and I have never 
> felt the need for two devices. My wife and I have an iPad and even though my 
> wife is sighted, it often sits there with an empty battery because we almost 
> never use it and forget to charge it.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicky 
> Collins
> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2023 4:49 PM
> To: VIPhone 
> Subject: connecting my iPhone 14 Plus and my iPhone 15 Pro
> 
> I'm really bad about knowing the types of cables and adapters, but I need to 
> know what to get for my iPhone 14 Plus and my iPhone 15 Pro. I am currently 
> using whatever cable and adapter came with my iPhone 7 or something like that 
> to charge the battery, And I purchased some kind of an adapter from the Apple 
> Store to be able to use the earbuds with my current iPhone 12 mini and 13 
> mini. I guess I can't use just one cable and adapter and use them 
> interchangeably to charge both phones anymore, and I guess I may have to get 
> two separate wired earpods from Apple as well? Any help on what I need for 
> charging the battery and using wired earpods for the 14 Plus and the 15 Pro 
> would be appreciated. Thanks.
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: connecting my iPhone 14 Plus and my iPhone 15 Pro

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And I am just curious, but why do you have two high-end iPhones? Like I say, I 
mean no offense, just want to know because I assume it means having two phone 
plans and even if you had one which is only $40 or so a months, that is still 
almost $500 a year. I have had an iphone for almost 15 years and I run a 
business as well as using it constantly for personal stuff and I have never 
felt the need for two devices. My wife and I have an iPad and even though my 
wife is sighted, it often sits there with an empty battery because we almost 
never use it and forget to charge it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicky 
Collins
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2023 4:49 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: connecting my iPhone 14 Plus and my iPhone 15 Pro

I'm really bad about knowing the types of cables and adapters, but I need to 
know what to get for my iPhone 14 Plus and my iPhone 15 Pro. I am currently 
using whatever cable and adapter came with my iPhone 7 or something like that 
to charge the battery, And I purchased some kind of an adapter from the Apple 
Store to be able to use the earbuds with my current iPhone 12 mini and 13 mini. 
I guess I can't use just one cable and adapter and use them interchangeably to 
charge both phones anymore, and I guess I may have to get two separate wired 
earpods from Apple as well? Any help on what I need for charging the battery 
and using wired earpods for the 14 Plus and the 15 Pro would be appreciated. 
Thanks. 
Sent from my iPhone

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RE: connecting my iPhone 14 Plus and my iPhone 15 Pro

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It's very simple, any iPhone prior to the 15 series which were released 3 
months ago uses a Lightning connector and the iPhone 15/15 Pro and it's 
variations uses USB-C port.

Lightning is a proprietary Apple connector, USB-C is an industry standard which 
is basically what most manufacturers nowadays use including Apple.

Both Lightning and USB-C are fairly small and can be plugged in either way, 
e.g. it does not matter which way you turn the cable.

The older USB-A which are the larger plugs you find on most computers as well 
as Micro USB can only go in one way and then there was Mini USB which is hardly 
around any more and never caught on much (thank goodness).



When it comes to wall adapters you only would need a single one nowadays for an 
iPhone 14/14 Pro and 15/15 Pro and it has to be supporting USB-C and it should 
have at least 20 Watt. Ideally you would have one from a company like from 
Anker, Ugreen or others which has 2 or 3 ports, some even come with 2 USB-C and 
one of the older/larger USB-A ports.

Even most new laptops nowadays use a USB-C port on the device to charge which 
means no more proprietary chargers are required, just a USB-C wall adapater 
which puts out at least 65 Watts and a USB-C cable.

The other nice thing is that devices only take whatever power they can handle. 
So, you can have a 100 Watt USB-C wall adapter and a cable which can handle 
that much and you can charge your laptop with it, but you can also use the same 
adapter and cable to charge your iPhone which can take a max. of 15 Watts or 
even a headset which may only require 5 Watts.

The only silly thing is that not all USB-C cables can handle the high amounts, 
e.g. you may have a USB-C cable which you can use to charge your iPhone, but it 
may not handle 65 or 100 Watts to charge a laptop.



When it comes to cables, just make sure that you have at least one or more 
USB-C to USB-C cable which means each end should have a male USB-C port).

This will plug into your wall charger as well as into any USB-C device like the 
iPhone 15/15 Pro and many headsets, keyboards, external speakers, batteries etc.

You then also want to make sure you have at least one cable with a USB-C plug 
on one side and a Lightning plug on the other, this will plug into your wall 
adapter and allow you to connect  an iPhone 14/14 Pro or older.

If you have Micro USB devices like maybe a headset, speaker or wireless 
keyboard, you can look on  Amazon for a USB-C to Micro USB cable or you can get 
small adapters which plug into the end of a USB-C cable and then have a male 
Micro USB port.



As for headsets you will either require both a Lightning as well as USB-C 
headset or you have to get an adapter which even Apple makes (expensive) or you 
can find it on Amazon (much cheaper), here is ithe Apple version from Amazon 
Canada:



Apple USB-C to Lightning 
adapter<https://www.amazon.ca/Apple-USB-C-to-Lightning-Adapter/dp/B0CHX5RZ8M/ref=sr_1_6?crid=36238WTT33ZSY=USB-C+female+to+Lightning+adapter=1702707653=usb-c+female+to+lightning+adapter%2Caps%2C178=8-6>



This has a female Lightning end so it would plug into a Lightning headset like 
a set of Earpods with Lightning port and on the other end is a mal USB-C port 
which can then plug into an iPhone 15/15 Pro or a USB-C wall adapter.



I honestly can’t wait until finally every new device being released whether 
headset, speaker, keyboard or other is USB-C and I will rarely buy any new 
device nowadays uness it has a USB-C port. Not only is it so much easier to 
plug it in since you don’t have to worry about having the cable the right way 
around, it also allows for fast charging, fast data transfers if applicaple and 
in the long run it will prevent thousands of tons of e-Garbage ending up in 
landfills because now suddenly you have to have just a single wall charger and 
a few cables to charge all your devices.





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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Vicky 
Collins
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2023 4:49 PM
To: VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: connecting my iPhone 14 Plus and my iPhone 15 Pro



I'm really bad about knowing the types of cables and adapters, but I need to 
know what to get for my iPhone 14 Plus and my iPhone 15 Pro. I am currently 
using whatever cable and adapter came with my iPhone 7 or something like that 
to charge the battery, And I purchased some kind of an adapter from the Apple 
Store to be able to use the earbuds with my current iPhone 12 mini and 13 mini. 
I guess I can't use just one cable and adapter and use them interchangeably to 
charge both phones anymore, and I guess I may have to get two separate wired 
earpods from Apple as well? Any help on what I need for charging the battery 
and using wired earpods for the 14 Plus and the 15 Pro would be appreciated. 
Thanks.

Sent from my iPhone



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connecting my iPhone 14 Plus and my iPhone 15 Pro

[Vicky Collins]

I'm really bad about knowing the types of cables and adapters, but I need to 
know what to get for my iPhone 14 Plus and my iPhone 15 Pro. I am currently 
using whatever cable and adapter came with my iPhone 7 or something like that 
to charge the battery, And I purchased some kind of an adapter from the Apple 
Store to be able to use the earbuds with my current iPhone 12 mini and 13 mini. 
I guess I can't use just one cable and adapter and use them interchangeably to 
charge both phones anymore, and I guess I may have to get two separate wired 
earpods from Apple as well? Any help on what I need for charging the battery 
and using wired earpods for the 14 Plus and the 15 Pro would be appreciated. 
Thanks. 
Sent from my iPhone

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RE: iPhone 15 pro max help needed with notifications

[Dennis Long]

Both of those are set properly.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Friday, December 8, 2023 3:52 PM
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Subject: Re: iPhone 15 pro max help needed with notifications
 
Hi,
 
You might also want to go to Notification Settings. At the top, you can choose 
between count, sTack, and List. You might want to choose List. Not far below 
that is show Previews. Your choices are Always, When Unlocked, or Never. If you 
want to hear full notifications on the Lock Screen, choose Always.
 
I hope that helps.
 
Best,
Anna
 



On Dec 8, 2023, at 10:52 AM, Jennie Facer mailto:jennie.fa...@gmail.com> > wrote:
 
I believe in VoiceOver settings somewhere there is a speak all notifications. 
Is that on?
 
jenn
Jenn and Kumi



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Hi, It says things like dice world notification but not who took their turn It 
didn’t do this on my SE 3.  I’m sure it is a setting but what is it?  Help 
please.  I have notifications set to speak.
 
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Re: iPhone 15 pro max help needed with notifications

[Anna Dresner]

Hi,

You might also want to go to Notification Settings. At the top, you can choose 
between count, sTack, and List. You might want to choose List. Not far below 
that is show Previews. Your choices are Always, When Unlocked, or Never. If you 
want to hear full notifications on the Lock Screen, choose Always.

I hope that helps.

Best,
Anna


> On Dec 8, 2023, at 10:52 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> I believe in VoiceOver settings somewhere there is a speak all notifications. 
> Is that on?
> 
> jenn
> Jenn and Kumi
> 
>> On Dec 8, 2023, at 9:17 AM, Dennis Long > > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi, It says things like dice world notification but not who took their turn 
>> It didn’t do this on my SE 3.  I’m sure it is a setting but what is it?  
>> Help please.  I have notifications set to speak.
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Re: iPhone 15 pro max help needed with notifications

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I believe in VoiceOver settings somewhere there is a speak all notifications. Is that on?jennJenn and KumiOn Dec 8, 2023, at 9:17 AM, Dennis Long  wrote:Hi, It says things like dice world notification but not who took their turn It didn’t do this on my SE 3.  I’m sure it is a setting but what is it?  Help please.  I have notifications set to speak.



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iPhone 15 pro max help needed with notifications

[Dennis Long]

Hi, It says things like dice world notification but not who took their turn
It didn’t do this on my SE 3.  I’m sure it is a setting but what is it?
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RE: Setting um my iPhone 15 Pro Max

[Richard Turner]

ext screen was an Improve Siri and dictation heading. The choices 
were to Share audio recordings or Not now. I chose to Share audio recordings.
19. The next screen was App analytics heading. This is to help developers 
improve apps by sharing app activity and crash data. I chose to Share this data.
20. I then got a screen saying my other device included purchases from the 
iTunes Store that were made with a different Apple ID. I was prompted to enter 
the password for the Apple ID mixrnb_wal...@usa.com. I have never purchased 
anything on my older iPhone other than with my Apple ID so I executed the 
button to Skip this step. I believe I got something similar when setting up my 
iPhone 8 from my iPhone 7 and I'm perplexed where this Apple ID originated.
21. I received an Are you sure dialog which I Skipped again.
22. Screens on both devices now said Transferring data and to keep the 
devices connected to power. Voiceover announced the percentage progress. After 
receiving the 100% progress message after about an hour, the screen on my new 
iPhone dimmed with nothing said by Voiceover.I thought I could detect the Apple 
logo in the center of the screen but it was very dim and nothing was spoken. I 
decided to reset the new iPhone so I pressed volume up, volume down, and held 
the power button until the Apple logo appeared as it normally does when 
powering on. I was then ptompted to update the phone which I assume was due to 
an older version of iOS on it than the 13.4.1 which was running on my iPhone 8. 
I must say that Voiceover was a bit deficient in providing meaningful help with 
this step. But I approved the update and the phone restarted and prompted me 
for my passcode which I provided and all my apps appeared to be installed in 
the same location as on my iPhone 8 but they were still being downloaded from 
the cloud. I received a notification that no SIM card was present in the new 
phone which was okay because I planned to move it over after all my apps 
downloaded. I also noticed that my Wallet did not contain my credit card so I 
decided to do an iTunes restore.
23.  The encrypted backup restore from iTunes went fine but I had to turn 
off Find My on my new SE before the restore would complete. The SE prompted me 
for my passcode at least a couple of times during the restore process.
24. I had to agree to a couple of terms and conditions as my credit cards 
restored to my Wallet from the iTunes encrypted backup. This also required I 
enter my credit card security code for it to be added to the Wallet but this 
process went smoothly.
25. Finally, the process of the 14 screens of apps to download from the 
cloud and the App Store is underway. This took about an hour and everything is 
restored.
26. I used a push pin to remove the SIM card tray from my iPhone 8 and 
transferred the SIM to the iPhone SE. The SIM card has a notch in the upper 
right corner so will only fit in the SIM tray one way. I did power off both 
phones before transferring the SIM.





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Muccio Weisenborn
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Subject: Setting um my iPhone 15 Pro Max

How do I transfer my apps from my 11 Pro to my 15 Pro Max?  I already turned 
VoiceOver on and set up WiFi.   I haven't contacted my carrier T-Mobile yet.   
Is it too late to transfer from the cloud, should I start over, or should I 
consider re-installing all my apps for a clean install?


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[Dulce Muccio Weisenborn]

How do I transfer my apps from my 11 Pro to my 15 Pro Max?  I already turned 
VoiceOver on and set up WiFi.   I haven't contacted my carrier T-Mobile yet.   
Is it too late to transfer from the cloud, should I start over, or should I 
consider re-installing all my apps for a clean install?


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RE: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

[Carolyn Arnold]

I have found that to be the case too. Some have said start from the right side 
of the bottom. I just start from the bottom, usually the middle, but it works. 
I have never missed a Home Button. 

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Subject: RE: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

I would probably rather set up the action button to answer and hang up a phone 
call since the swipe up from the bottom is a very easy and reliable gesture.
If setting  up the action button for phone calls means you can press it also to 
switch to a different call when you are on the phone that would be a very 
useful feature.
It's too bad only on actiojn is possible right now, hopefully in time Apple 
will make it possible to assign multiple actions by pressing once, twice 
quickly or 3 times quickly just as a single, double or triple press of the side 
button do different things.

Lastly, just as an addition to Joshua'sexplanation about the swipe up to go to 
the homescreen, it is actually not necessary to do that swipe in the middle of 
the screen, you can do it on the left, in the middle or on the right, as long 
as you start correctly at the very bottom it will work.

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 9:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

Hello Richard and congratulations on your new iPhone 15 Pro.  May it bring you 
many years of accessible joy.

Also, thanks for the info about setting up the Action button to take you to the 
home screen.  That never would have occurred to me.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 6:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

All,

I just  set up my new iPhone Pro yesterday afternoon at the local Apple store.
• Apparently, as others have indicated, the overheating issue seems to have 
been resolved. The phone operates at normal temperature inside the Apple 
silicon case I purchased for the phone.
• One comment: my personal experience of the upgrade from an iPhone  8 to face 
recognition on the 15 Pro is a bit of a challenge. It’s quite different.
• By the way, later in the evening I had great telephone support from the Apple 
accessibility desk. I had a marathon session with one agent. Among other 
things, the agent arranged for one of the left-side activation buttons (the top 
button) to bring up the home screen. He did this by helping me create a 
shortcut and using the activation button to initiate the shortcut. This helps 
me maintain some semblance of long-established patterns of use. Great support 
from Apple.

Best to all,

Richard Petty
mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net




From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On 
Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:34 PM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on 
iPhone 15 Series

I don't think the regular iPhone 15 and 15 Plus have Titanium frames, but of 
course I could be wrong.
Of course it's also beyond me why if  you have an iPhone 14 Pro Max you would 
buy a 15 Plus which has the exact same chip, it lacks the LiDAR sensor your 14 
Pro Max has and as far as I can tell all you get is an action button to which 
you can map one single function and you have a USB-C port instead of a 
Lightning port.
Of course if you decide you don't want it any more you can send it to me, it is 
starting to get cold up here in Northern British Columbia and this may make a 
nice hand warmer 藍

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:11 AM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on iPhone 
15 Series

Hello All,

Well, I have been working with a 15 Plus for over a week. I have truly been 
putting it through it proverbial paces and I can tell you that the device heats 
up far faster and far warmer than does my beloved 14 Pro Max.

It's really quite interesting as I understand that the 15 Plus is just a 14 
series inside that titanium case.  Is this true?

Regardless, with only a screen protector installed and using a cheap $10 case I 
purchased at the Apple store, using the device for any uninterrupted length of 
time when performing longer tasks such as performing system restores, lengthy 
GPS navigation, App updates (over 30 or so at a time) the phone really heats 
up.  I'm not saying it is heating to a dangerous level but I am saying that it 
is heating up so much and so fast that I have decided to not purchase a 15 Pro 
Max, this year.

Of course I am comparing the 15 

Re: Strange issue with iOS17.1 with iPhone 15 Pro Max.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello Richard,

Many thanks, that’s sorted it although I cannot remember making that setting 
change to the device.
Malcolm Parfitt

> On 26 Oct 2023, at 01:24, Richard Turner  wrote:
> 
> It sounds like you are downloading to the app library, rather than the home 
> screen.
> Go to settings, Home Screen and App library and make sure newly downloaded 
> apps is set to home screen and not the app library.
> 
> Richard, USA
> ——
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> (Sent from my iPhone)
> 
>> On Oct 25, 2023, at 5:13 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
>> Recently I have experienced a strange problem with my iPhone 15 pro Max 
>> running iOS17.1.
>> 
>> If I install an app via the App Store or redownload an app previously 
>> installed it does not appear on any of the screens on my iPhone.  It is not 
>> in any folder but can be found via Spot Light.
>> 
>> Swiping through all the screens containing apps installed on the device 
>> newly downloaded apps to not appear.
>> 
>> If I go into Settings, General and iPhone Storage all apps are listed along 
>> with the space they’re taking up.
>> 
>> Any suggestions welcome.
>> Malcolm Parfitt
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Re: Strange issue with iOS17.1 with iPhone 15 Pro Max.

[Richard Turner]

It sounds like you are downloading to the app library, rather than the home 
screen. 
Go to settings, Home Screen and App library and make sure newly downloaded apps 
is set to home screen and not the app library.

Richard, USA 
——
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(Sent from my iPhone)

> On Oct 25, 2023, at 5:13 PM, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> Recently I have experienced a strange problem with my iPhone 15 pro Max 
> running iOS17.1.
> 
> If I install an app via the App Store or redownload an app previously 
> installed it does not appear on any of the screens on my iPhone.  It is not 
> in any folder but can be found via Spot Light.
> 
> Swiping through all the screens containing apps installed on the device newly 
> downloaded apps to not appear.
> 
> If I go into Settings, General and iPhone Storage all apps are listed along 
> with the space they’re taking up.
> 
> Any suggestions welcome.
> Malcolm Parfitt
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Strange issue with iOS17.1 with iPhone 15 Pro Max.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Recently I have experienced a strange problem with my iPhone 15 pro Max running 
iOS17.1.

If I install an app via the App Store or redownload an app previously installed 
it does not appear on any of the screens on my iPhone.  It is not in any folder 
but can be found via Spot Light.

Swiping through all the screens containing apps installed on the device newly 
downloaded apps to not appear.

If I go into Settings, General and iPhone Storage all apps are listed along 
with the space they’re taking up.

Any suggestions welcome.
Malcolm Parfitt

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Re: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

[Joshua Hendrickson]

It will take a bit of time to learn how to use face ID  and also the
new home gesture.  But it is worth it in my opinion.  The biggest
thing for me to learn, was the distance I needed between my face and
the phone.  You don't hold the phone wright up to your face, but maybe
a foot away from your face.  What I do, is have the phone on my lap
with the top of the phone facing away from me and that usually does it
for me.  Good luck, and I hope you like your new phone.

On 10/24/23, Richard  wrote:
> Thanks for the nice message. I'm learning I need to work on making smooth
> transitions. It's a bumpy ride so far. Smile.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 11:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature
>
> Hello Richard and congratulations on your new iPhone 15 Pro.  May it bring
> you many years of accessible joy.
>
> Also, thanks for the info about setting up the Action button to take you to
> the home screen.  That never would have occurred to me.
>
> Mark
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard
> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 6:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature
>
> All,
>
> I just  set up my new iPhone Pro yesterday afternoon at the local Apple
> store.
> • Apparently, as others have indicated, the overheating issue seems to have
> been resolved. The phone operates at normal temperature inside the Apple
> silicon case I purchased for the phone.
> • One comment: my personal experience of the upgrade from an iPhone  8 to
> face recognition on the 15 Pro is a bit of a challenge. It’s quite
> different.
> • By the way, later in the evening I had great telephone support from the
> Apple accessibility desk. I had a marathon session with one agent. Among
> other things, the agent arranged for one of the left-side activation buttons
> (the top button) to bring up the home screen. He did this by helping me
> create a shortcut and using the activation button to initiate the shortcut.
> This helps me maintain some semblance of long-established patterns of use.
> Great support from Apple.
>
> Best to all,
>
> Richard Petty
> mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net
>
>
>
>
> From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:34 PM
> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on
> iPhone 15 Series
>
> I don't think the regular iPhone 15 and 15 Plus have Titanium frames, but of
> course I could be wrong.
> Of course it's also beyond me why if  you have an iPhone 14 Pro Max you
> would buy a 15 Plus which has the exact same chip, it lacks the LiDAR sensor
> your 14 Pro Max has and as far as I can tell all you get is an action button
> to which you can map one single function and you have a USB-C port instead
> of a Lightning port.
> Of course if you decide you don't want it any more you can send it to me, it
> is starting to get cold up here in Northern British Columbia and this may
> make a nice hand warmer 藍
>
> -Original Message-
> From: M. Taylor <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:11 AM
> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on
> iPhone 15 Series
>
> Hello All,
>
> Well, I have been working with a 15 Plus for over a week. I have truly been
> putting it through it proverbial paces and I can tell you that the device
> heats up far faster and far warmer than does my beloved 14 Pro Max.
>
> It's really quite interesting as I understand that the 15 Plus is just a 14
> series inside that titanium case.  Is this true?
>
> Regardless, with only a screen protector installed and using a cheap $10
> case I purchased at the Apple store, using the device for any uninterrupted
> length of time when performing longer tasks such as performing system
> restores, lengthy GPS navigation, App updates (over 30 or so at a time) the
> phone really heats up.  I'm not saying it is heating to a dangerous level
> but I am saying that it is heating up so much and so fast that I have
> decided to not purchase a 15 Pro Max, this year.
>
> Of course I am comparing the 15 Plus with my beloved 14 Pro Max with the
> same level of screen brightness.
>
> Okay, just thought I would pass this along.
>
> Keep in mind, this is just my experience:  Your milage may vary.
>
> I hope you are all doing well.
>
> Mark
>
>
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RE: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

[Richard]

Thanks for the nice message. I'm learning I need to work on making smooth 
transitions. It's a bumpy ride so far. Smile.

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 11:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

Hello Richard and congratulations on your new iPhone 15 Pro.  May it bring you 
many years of accessible joy.

Also, thanks for the info about setting up the Action button to take you to the 
home screen.  That never would have occurred to me.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 6:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

All,

I just  set up my new iPhone Pro yesterday afternoon at the local Apple store.
• Apparently, as others have indicated, the overheating issue seems to have 
been resolved. The phone operates at normal temperature inside the Apple 
silicon case I purchased for the phone.
• One comment: my personal experience of the upgrade from an iPhone  8 to face 
recognition on the 15 Pro is a bit of a challenge. It’s quite different.
• By the way, later in the evening I had great telephone support from the Apple 
accessibility desk. I had a marathon session with one agent. Among other 
things, the agent arranged for one of the left-side activation buttons (the top 
button) to bring up the home screen. He did this by helping me create a 
shortcut and using the activation button to initiate the shortcut. This helps 
me maintain some semblance of long-established patterns of use. Great support 
from Apple.

Best to all,

Richard Petty
mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net




From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On 
Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:34 PM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on 
iPhone 15 Series

I don't think the regular iPhone 15 and 15 Plus have Titanium frames, but of 
course I could be wrong.
Of course it's also beyond me why if  you have an iPhone 14 Pro Max you would 
buy a 15 Plus which has the exact same chip, it lacks the LiDAR sensor your 14 
Pro Max has and as far as I can tell all you get is an action button to which 
you can map one single function and you have a USB-C port instead of a 
Lightning port.
Of course if you decide you don't want it any more you can send it to me, it is 
starting to get cold up here in Northern British Columbia and this may make a 
nice hand warmer 藍

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:11 AM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on iPhone 
15 Series

Hello All,

Well, I have been working with a 15 Plus for over a week. I have truly been 
putting it through it proverbial paces and I can tell you that the device heats 
up far faster and far warmer than does my beloved 14 Pro Max.

It's really quite interesting as I understand that the 15 Plus is just a 14 
series inside that titanium case.  Is this true?

Regardless, with only a screen protector installed and using a cheap $10 case I 
purchased at the Apple store, using the device for any uninterrupted length of 
time when performing longer tasks such as performing system restores, lengthy 
GPS navigation, App updates (over 30 or so at a time) the phone really heats 
up.  I'm not saying it is heating to a dangerous level but I am saying that it 
is heating up so much and so fast that I have decided to not purchase a 15 Pro 
Max, this year.

Of course I am comparing the 15 Plus with my beloved 14 Pro Max with the same 
level of screen brightness.

Okay, just thought I would pass this along.

Keep in mind, this is just my experience:  Your milage may vary.

I hope you are all doing well.

Mark


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RE: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

[Richard]

I have yet to gain much accuracy with the gesture. Wasted time. I'll take the 
alternative.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2023 1:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

Learn the swipe up from the bottom of the screen to access the home
screen.  It is easier.  If I had known how easy face ID is, I never
would have gotten an iPhone 8 as my first phone.  When doing the swipe
up from the bottom of the screen, I use the lightning port on my 13
pro max as a guide.  With the 15 phones, use your USBC port to center
your swipe up gesture.

On 10/23/23, M. Taylor  wrote:
> Hello Richard and congratulations on your new iPhone 15 Pro.  May it bring
> you many years of accessible joy.
>
> Also, thanks for the info about setting up the Action button to take you to
> the home screen.  That never would have occurred to me.
>
> Mark
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard
> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 6:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature
>
> All,
>
> I just  set up my new iPhone Pro yesterday afternoon at the local Apple
> store.
> • Apparently, as others have indicated, the overheating issue seems to have
> been resolved. The phone operates at normal temperature inside the Apple
> silicon case I purchased for the phone.
> • One comment: my personal experience of the upgrade from an iPhone  8 to
> face recognition on the 15 Pro is a bit of a challenge. It’s quite
> different.
> • By the way, later in the evening I had great telephone support from the
> Apple accessibility desk. I had a marathon session with one agent. Among
> other things, the agent arranged for one of the left-side activation buttons
> (the top button) to bring up the home screen. He did this by helping me
> create a shortcut and using the activation button to initiate the shortcut.
> This helps me maintain some semblance of long-established patterns of use.
> Great support from Apple.
>
> Best to all,
>
> Richard Petty
> mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net
>
>
>
>
> From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:34 PM
> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on
> iPhone 15 Series
>
> I don't think the regular iPhone 15 and 15 Plus have Titanium frames, but of
> course I could be wrong.
> Of course it's also beyond me why if  you have an iPhone 14 Pro Max you
> would buy a 15 Plus which has the exact same chip, it lacks the LiDAR sensor
> your 14 Pro Max has and as far as I can tell all you get is an action button
> to which you can map one single function and you have a USB-C port instead
> of a Lightning port.
> Of course if you decide you don't want it any more you can send it to me, it
> is starting to get cold up here in Northern British Columbia and this may
> make a nice hand warmer 藍
>
> -Original Message-
> From: M. Taylor <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:11 AM
> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on
> iPhone 15 Series
>
> Hello All,
>
> Well, I have been working with a 15 Plus for over a week. I have truly been
> putting it through it proverbial paces and I can tell you that the device
> heats up far faster and far warmer than does my beloved 14 Pro Max.
>
> It's really quite interesting as I understand that the 15 Plus is just a 14
> series inside that titanium case.  Is this true?
>
> Regardless, with only a screen protector installed and using a cheap $10
> case I purchased at the Apple store, using the device for any uninterrupted
> length of time when performing longer tasks such as performing system
> restores, lengthy GPS navigation, App updates (over 30 or so at a time) the
> phone really heats up.  I'm not saying it is heating to a dangerous level
> but I am saying that it is heating up so much and so fast that I have
> decided to not purchase a 15 Pro Max, this year.
>
> Of course I am comparing the 15 Plus with my beloved 14 Pro Max with the
> same level of screen brightness.
>
> Okay, just thought I would pass this along.
>
> Keep in mind, this is just my experience:  Your milage may vary.
>
> I hope you are all doing well.
>
> Mark
>
>
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RE: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I would probably rather set up the action button to answer and hang up a phone 
call since the swipe up from the bottom is a very easy and reliable gesture.
If setting  up the action button for phone calls means you can press it also to 
switch to a different call when you are on the phone that would be a very 
useful feature.
It's too bad only on actiojn is possible right now, hopefully in time Apple 
will make it possible to assign multiple actions by pressing once, twice 
quickly or 3 times quickly just as a single, double or triple press of the side 
button do different things.

Lastly, just as an addition to Joshua'sexplanation about the swipe up to go to 
the homescreen, it is actually not necessary to do that swipe in the middle of 
the screen, you can do it on the left, in the middle or on the right, as long 
as you start correctly at the very bottom it will work.

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 9:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

Hello Richard and congratulations on your new iPhone 15 Pro.  May it bring you 
many years of accessible joy.

Also, thanks for the info about setting up the Action button to take you to the 
home screen.  That never would have occurred to me.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 6:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

All,

I just  set up my new iPhone Pro yesterday afternoon at the local Apple store.
• Apparently, as others have indicated, the overheating issue seems to have 
been resolved. The phone operates at normal temperature inside the Apple 
silicon case I purchased for the phone.
• One comment: my personal experience of the upgrade from an iPhone  8 to face 
recognition on the 15 Pro is a bit of a challenge. It’s quite different.
• By the way, later in the evening I had great telephone support from the Apple 
accessibility desk. I had a marathon session with one agent. Among other 
things, the agent arranged for one of the left-side activation buttons (the top 
button) to bring up the home screen. He did this by helping me create a 
shortcut and using the activation button to initiate the shortcut. This helps 
me maintain some semblance of long-established patterns of use. Great support 
from Apple.

Best to all,

Richard Petty
mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net




From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On 
Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:34 PM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on 
iPhone 15 Series

I don't think the regular iPhone 15 and 15 Plus have Titanium frames, but of 
course I could be wrong.
Of course it's also beyond me why if  you have an iPhone 14 Pro Max you would 
buy a 15 Plus which has the exact same chip, it lacks the LiDAR sensor your 14 
Pro Max has and as far as I can tell all you get is an action button to which 
you can map one single function and you have a USB-C port instead of a 
Lightning port.
Of course if you decide you don't want it any more you can send it to me, it is 
starting to get cold up here in Northern British Columbia and this may make a 
nice hand warmer 藍

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:11 AM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on iPhone 
15 Series

Hello All,

Well, I have been working with a 15 Plus for over a week. I have truly been 
putting it through it proverbial paces and I can tell you that the device heats 
up far faster and far warmer than does my beloved 14 Pro Max.

It's really quite interesting as I understand that the 15 Plus is just a 14 
series inside that titanium case.  Is this true?

Regardless, with only a screen protector installed and using a cheap $10 case I 
purchased at the Apple store, using the device for any uninterrupted length of 
time when performing longer tasks such as performing system restores, lengthy 
GPS navigation, App updates (over 30 or so at a time) the phone really heats 
up.  I'm not saying it is heating to a dangerous level but I am saying that it 
is heating up so much and so fast that I have decided to not purchase a 15 Pro 
Max, this year.

Of course I am comparing the 15 Plus with my beloved 14 Pro Max with the same 
level of screen brightness.

Okay, just thought I would pass this along.

Keep in mind, this is just my experience:  Your milage may vary.

I hope you are all doing well.

Mark


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RE: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

[Carolyn Arnold]

You are so right, Joshua. I agree totally. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2023 2:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

Learn the swipe up from the bottom of the screen to access the home screen.  It 
is easier.  If I had known how easy face ID is, I never would have gotten an 
iPhone 8 as my first phone.  When doing the swipe up from the bottom of the 
screen, I use the lightning port on my 13 pro max as a guide.  With the 15 
phones, use your USBC port to center your swipe up gesture.

On 10/23/23, M. Taylor  wrote:
> Hello Richard and congratulations on your new iPhone 15 Pro.  May it 
> bring you many years of accessible joy.
>
> Also, thanks for the info about setting up the Action button to take 
> you to the home screen.  That never would have occurred to me.
>
> Mark
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard
> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 6:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature
>
> All,
>
> I just  set up my new iPhone Pro yesterday afternoon at the local 
> Apple store.
> • Apparently, as others have indicated, the overheating issue seems to 
> have been resolved. The phone operates at normal temperature inside 
> the Apple silicon case I purchased for the phone.
> • One comment: my personal experience of the upgrade from an iPhone  8 
> to face recognition on the 15 Pro is a bit of a challenge. It’s quite 
> different.
> • By the way, later in the evening I had great telephone support from 
> the Apple accessibility desk. I had a marathon session with one agent. 
> Among other things, the agent arranged for one of the left-side 
> activation buttons (the top button) to bring up the home screen. He 
> did this by helping me create a shortcut and using the activation button to 
> initiate the shortcut.
> This helps me maintain some semblance of long-established patterns of use.
> Great support from Apple.
>
> Best to all,
>
> Richard Petty
> mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net
>
>
>
>
> From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:34 PM
> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a 
> Pass on iPhone 15 Series
>
> I don't think the regular iPhone 15 and 15 Plus have Titanium frames, 
> but of course I could be wrong.
> Of course it's also beyond me why if  you have an iPhone 14 Pro Max 
> you would buy a 15 Plus which has the exact same chip, it lacks the 
> LiDAR sensor your 14 Pro Max has and as far as I can tell all you get 
> is an action button to which you can map one single function and you 
> have a USB-C port instead of a Lightning port.
> Of course if you decide you don't want it any more you can send it to 
> me, it is starting to get cold up here in Northern British Columbia 
> and this may make a nice hand warmer 藍
>
> -Original Message-
> From: M. Taylor <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:11 AM
> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass 
> on iPhone 15 Series
>
> Hello All,
>
> Well, I have been working with a 15 Plus for over a week. I have truly 
> been putting it through it proverbial paces and I can tell you that 
> the device heats up far faster and far warmer than does my beloved 14 Pro Max.
>
> It's really quite interesting as I understand that the 15 Plus is just 
> a 14 series inside that titanium case.  Is this true?
>
> Regardless, with only a screen protector installed and using a cheap 
> $10 case I purchased at the Apple store, using the device for any 
> uninterrupted length of time when performing longer tasks such as 
> performing system restores, lengthy GPS navigation, App updates (over 
> 30 or so at a time) the phone really heats up.  I'm not saying it is 
> heating to a dangerous level but I am saying that it is heating up so 
> much and so fast that I have decided to not purchase a 15 Pro Max, this year.
>
> Of course I am comparing the 15 Plus with my beloved 14 Pro Max with 
> the same level of screen brightness.
>
> Okay, just thought I would pass this along.
>
> Keep in mind, this is just my experience:  Your milage may vary.
>
> I hope you are all doing well.
>
> Mark
>
>
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RE: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

I personally use the assistive touch button for another way to jump to the home 
screen along with the app switcher and control center. I’m most likely going to 
upgrade from my XR to a 15 Pro/Pro Max, but will keep the assistive touch 
button for the same purposes and probably use the action button for something 
else.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 9:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

Hello Richard and congratulations on your new iPhone 15 Pro.  May it bring you 
many years of accessible joy.

Also, thanks for the info about setting up the Action button to take you to the 
home screen.  That never would have occurred to me.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 6:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

All,

I just  set up my new iPhone Pro yesterday afternoon at the local Apple store.
• Apparently, as others have indicated, the overheating issue seems to have 
been resolved. The phone operates at normal temperature inside the Apple 
silicon case I purchased for the phone.
• One comment: my personal experience of the upgrade from an iPhone  8 to face 
recognition on the 15 Pro is a bit of a challenge. It’s quite different.
• By the way, later in the evening I had great telephone support from the Apple 
accessibility desk. I had a marathon session with one agent. Among other 
things, the agent arranged for one of the left-side activation buttons (the top 
button) to bring up the home screen. He did this by helping me create a 
shortcut and using the activation button to initiate the shortcut. This helps 
me maintain some semblance of long-established patterns of use. Great support 
from Apple.

Best to all,

Richard Petty
mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net




From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On 
Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:34 PM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on 
iPhone 15 Series

I don't think the regular iPhone 15 and 15 Plus have Titanium frames, but of 
course I could be wrong.
Of course it's also beyond me why if  you have an iPhone 14 Pro Max you would 
buy a 15 Plus which has the exact same chip, it lacks the LiDAR sensor your 14 
Pro Max has and as far as I can tell all you get is an action button to which 
you can map one single function and you have a USB-C port instead of a 
Lightning port.
Of course if you decide you don't want it any more you can send it to me, it is 
starting to get cold up here in Northern British Columbia and this may make a 
nice hand warmer 藍

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:11 AM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on iPhone 
15 Series

Hello All,

Well, I have been working with a 15 Plus for over a week. I have truly been 
putting it through it proverbial paces and I can tell you that the device heats 
up far faster and far warmer than does my beloved 14 Pro Max.

It's really quite interesting as I understand that the 15 Plus is just a 14 
series inside that titanium case.  Is this true?

Regardless, with only a screen protector installed and using a cheap $10 case I 
purchased at the Apple store, using the device for any uninterrupted length of 
time when performing longer tasks such as performing system restores, lengthy 
GPS navigation, App updates (over 30 or so at a time) the phone really heats 
up.  I'm not saying it is heating to a dangerous level but I am saying that it 
is heating up so much and so fast that I have decided to not purchase a 15 Pro 
Max, this year.

Of course I am comparing the 15 Plus with my beloved 14 Pro Max with the same 
level of screen brightness.

Okay, just thought I would pass this along.

Keep in mind, this is just my experience:  Your milage may vary.

I hope you are all doing well.

Mark


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Re: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Learn the swipe up from the bottom of the screen to access the home
screen.  It is easier.  If I had known how easy face ID is, I never
would have gotten an iPhone 8 as my first phone.  When doing the swipe
up from the bottom of the screen, I use the lightning port on my 13
pro max as a guide.  With the 15 phones, use your USBC port to center
your swipe up gesture.

On 10/23/23, M. Taylor  wrote:
> Hello Richard and congratulations on your new iPhone 15 Pro.  May it bring
> you many years of accessible joy.
>
> Also, thanks for the info about setting up the Action button to take you to
> the home screen.  That never would have occurred to me.
>
> Mark
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard
> Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 6:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature
>
> All,
>
> I just  set up my new iPhone Pro yesterday afternoon at the local Apple
> store.
> • Apparently, as others have indicated, the overheating issue seems to have
> been resolved. The phone operates at normal temperature inside the Apple
> silicon case I purchased for the phone.
> • One comment: my personal experience of the upgrade from an iPhone  8 to
> face recognition on the 15 Pro is a bit of a challenge. It’s quite
> different.
> • By the way, later in the evening I had great telephone support from the
> Apple accessibility desk. I had a marathon session with one agent. Among
> other things, the agent arranged for one of the left-side activation buttons
> (the top button) to bring up the home screen. He did this by helping me
> create a shortcut and using the activation button to initiate the shortcut.
> This helps me maintain some semblance of long-established patterns of use.
> Great support from Apple.
>
> Best to all,
>
> Richard Petty
> mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net
>
>
>
>
> From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On
> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:34 PM
> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on
> iPhone 15 Series
>
> I don't think the regular iPhone 15 and 15 Plus have Titanium frames, but of
> course I could be wrong.
> Of course it's also beyond me why if  you have an iPhone 14 Pro Max you
> would buy a 15 Plus which has the exact same chip, it lacks the LiDAR sensor
> your 14 Pro Max has and as far as I can tell all you get is an action button
> to which you can map one single function and you have a USB-C port instead
> of a Lightning port.
> Of course if you decide you don't want it any more you can send it to me, it
> is starting to get cold up here in Northern British Columbia and this may
> make a nice hand warmer 藍
>
> -Original Message-
> From: M. Taylor <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:11 AM
> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on
> iPhone 15 Series
>
> Hello All,
>
> Well, I have been working with a 15 Plus for over a week. I have truly been
> putting it through it proverbial paces and I can tell you that the device
> heats up far faster and far warmer than does my beloved 14 Pro Max.
>
> It's really quite interesting as I understand that the 15 Plus is just a 14
> series inside that titanium case.  Is this true?
>
> Regardless, with only a screen protector installed and using a cheap $10
> case I purchased at the Apple store, using the device for any uninterrupted
> length of time when performing longer tasks such as performing system
> restores, lengthy GPS navigation, App updates (over 30 or so at a time) the
> phone really heats up.  I'm not saying it is heating to a dangerous level
> but I am saying that it is heating up so much and so fast that I have
> decided to not purchase a 15 Pro Max, this year.
>
> Of course I am comparing the 15 Plus with my beloved 14 Pro Max with the
> same level of screen brightness.
>
> Okay, just thought I would pass this along.
>
> Keep in mind, this is just my experience:  Your milage may vary.
>
> I hope you are all doing well.
>
> Mark
>
>
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RE: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

[M. Taylor]

Hello Richard and congratulations on your new iPhone 15 Pro.  May it bring you 
many years of accessible joy.

Also, thanks for the info about setting up the Action button to take you to the 
home screen.  That never would have occurred to me.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 6:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

All,

I just  set up my new iPhone Pro yesterday afternoon at the local Apple store.
• Apparently, as others have indicated, the overheating issue seems to have 
been resolved. The phone operates at normal temperature inside the Apple 
silicon case I purchased for the phone.
• One comment: my personal experience of the upgrade from an iPhone  8 to face 
recognition on the 15 Pro is a bit of a challenge. It’s quite different.
• By the way, later in the evening I had great telephone support from the Apple 
accessibility desk. I had a marathon session with one agent. Among other 
things, the agent arranged for one of the left-side activation buttons (the top 
button) to bring up the home screen. He did this by helping me create a 
shortcut and using the activation button to initiate the shortcut. This helps 
me maintain some semblance of long-established patterns of use. Great support 
from Apple.

Best to all,

Richard Petty
mailto:richard.pe...@earthlink.net




From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On 
Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:34 PM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on 
iPhone 15 Series

I don't think the regular iPhone 15 and 15 Plus have Titanium frames, but of 
course I could be wrong.
Of course it's also beyond me why if  you have an iPhone 14 Pro Max you would 
buy a 15 Plus which has the exact same chip, it lacks the LiDAR sensor your 14 
Pro Max has and as far as I can tell all you get is an action button to which 
you can map one single function and you have a USB-C port instead of a 
Lightning port.
Of course if you decide you don't want it any more you can send it to me, it is 
starting to get cold up here in Northern British Columbia and this may make a 
nice hand warmer 藍

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:11 AM
To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on iPhone 
15 Series

Hello All,

Well, I have been working with a 15 Plus for over a week. I have truly been 
putting it through it proverbial paces and I can tell you that the device heats 
up far faster and far warmer than does my beloved 14 Pro Max.

It's really quite interesting as I understand that the 15 Plus is just a 14 
series inside that titanium case.  Is this true?

Regardless, with only a screen protector installed and using a cheap $10 case I 
purchased at the Apple store, using the device for any uninterrupted length of 
time when performing longer tasks such as performing system restores, lengthy 
GPS navigation, App updates (over 30 or so at a time) the phone really heats 
up.  I'm not saying it is heating to a dangerous level but I am saying that it 
is heating up so much and so fast that I have decided to not purchase a 15 Pro 
Max, this year.

Of course I am comparing the 15 Plus with my beloved 14 Pro Max with the same 
level of screen brightness.

Okay, just thought I would pass this along.

Keep in mind, this is just my experience:  Your milage may vary.

I hope you are all doing well.

Mark


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New iPhone 15 Pro Operating at Normal Temperature

[Richard]

All,

 

I just  set up my new iPhone Pro yesterday afternoon at the local Apple store.

*   Apparently, as others have indicated, the overheating issue seems to 
have been resolved. The phone operates at normal temperature inside the Apple 
silicon case I purchased for the phone.
*   One comment: my personal experience of the upgrade from an iPhone  8 to 
face recognition on the 15 Pro is a bit of a challenge. It’s quite different.
*   By the way, later in the evening I had great telephone support from the 
Apple accessibility desk. I had a marathon session with one agent. Among other 
things, the agent arranged for one of the left-side activation buttons (the top 
button) to bring up the home screen. He did this by helping me create a 
shortcut and using the activation button to initiate the shortcut. This helps 
me maintain some semblance of long-established patterns of use. Great support 
from Apple.

 

Best to all,

 

Richard Petty

  richard.pe...@earthlink.net

 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on 
iPhone 15 Series

 

I don't think the regular iPhone 15 and 15 Plus have Titanium frames, but of 
course I could be wrong.

Of course it's also beyond me why if  you have an iPhone 14 Pro Max you would 
buy a 15 Plus which has the exact same chip, it lacks the LiDAR sensor your 14 
Pro Max has and as far as I can tell all you get is an action button to which 
you can map one single function and you have a USB-C port instead of a 
Lightning port.

Of course if you decide you don't want it any more you can send it to me, it is 
starting to get cold up here in Northern British Columbia and this may make a 
nice hand warmer 藍

 

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> > On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2023 11:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com  
Subject: iPhone Plus, Definitely Heating It Up: Mark is Taking a Pass on iPhone 
15 Series

 

Hello All,

 

Well, I have been working with a 15 Plus for over a week. I have truly been 
putting it through it proverbial paces and I can tell you that the device heats 
up far faster and far warmer than does my beloved 14 Pro Max.

 

It's really quite interesting as I understand that the 15 Plus is just a 14 
series inside that titanium case.  Is this true?

 

Regardless, with only a screen protector installed and using a cheap $10 case I 
purchased at the Apple store, using the device for any uninterrupted length of 
time when performing longer tasks such as performing system restores, lengthy 
GPS navigation, App updates (over 30 or so at a time) the phone really heats 
up.  I'm not saying it is heating to a dangerous level but I am saying that it 
is heating up so much and so fast that I have decided to not purchase a 15 Pro 
Max, this year.

 

Of course I am comparing the 15 Plus with my beloved 14 Pro Max with the same 
level of screen brightness.

 

Okay, just thought I would pass this along.

 

Keep in mind, this is just my experience:  Your milage may vary.

 

I hope you are all doing well.

 

Mark

 

 

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Re: Strange issue with my iPhone 15 Pro Max.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello Sieghard,

I agree with you but looking at the charging data it shows “No Data” for 
several hours which suggests the phone had been off for some time around six 
hours!

Anywhere from around 2A.M to 7:45A.M.  I have not touched the device during 
these hours.

Rather strange.
Malcolm Parfitt

> On 17 Oct 2023, at 18:28, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> This means that for whatever reason your phone restarts during the night. I 
> see this very occasionally with my iPhone 13 Pro as well although tit's been 
> some time now that this happened.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Malcolm Parfitt
> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2023 12:22 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Strange issue with my iPhone 15 Pro Max.
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have recently experienced a strange issue with my iPhone 15 Pro Max running 
> iOS 17.1 (21B5066a).
> 
> I usually put my phone on charge each night.  It is wirelessly charged with 
> an Anker 7.5 Watt charger.
> 
> In the morning when I unlock my iPhone I am told that my passcode is required 
> when my iPhone restarts.  I have not powered the device down.  The battery 
> charge level is at 89% when the device is taken off the charger.  It is 
> usually on charge for around 7.5 hours a night.
> 
> Anyone had similar experience?
> Malcolm Parfitt
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RE: Strange issue with my iPhone 15 Pro Max.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

This means that for whatever reason your phone restarts during the night. I see 
this very occasionally with my iPhone 13 Pro as well although tit's been some 
time now that this happened.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Strange issue with my iPhone 15 Pro Max.

Hello,

I have recently experienced a strange issue with my iPhone 15 Pro Max running 
iOS 17.1 (21B5066a).

I usually put my phone on charge each night.  It is wirelessly charged with an 
Anker 7.5 Watt charger.

In the morning when I unlock my iPhone I am told that my passcode is required 
when my iPhone restarts.  I have not powered the device down.  The battery 
charge level is at 89% when the device is taken off the charger.  It is usually 
on charge for around 7.5 hours a night.

Anyone had similar experience?
Malcolm Parfitt

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Re: Strange issue with my iPhone 15 Pro Max.

[Matt White]

Have you looked at reported bugs? I read somewhere recently that this was a bug 
with one of the beta releases.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 16, 2023, at 03:22, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I have recently experienced a strange issue with my iPhone 15 Pro Max running 
> iOS 17.1 (21B5066a).
> 
> I usually put my phone on charge each night.  It is wirelessly charged with 
> an Anker 7.5 Watt charger.
> 
> In the morning when I unlock my iPhone I am told that my passcode is required 
> when my iPhone restarts.  I have not powered the device down.  The battery 
> charge level is at 89% when the device is taken off the charger.  It is 
> usually on charge for around 7.5 hours a night.
> 
> Anyone had similar experience?
> Malcolm Parfitt
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Strange issue with my iPhone 15 Pro Max.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello,

I have recently experienced a strange issue with my iPhone 15 Pro Max running 
iOS 17.1 (21B5066a).

I usually put my phone on charge each night.  It is wirelessly charged with an 
Anker 7.5 Watt charger.

In the morning when I unlock my iPhone I am told that my passcode is required 
when my iPhone restarts.  I have not powered the device down.  The battery 
charge level is at 89% when the device is taken off the charger.  It is usually 
on charge for around 7.5 hours a night.

Anyone had similar experience?
Malcolm Parfitt

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Speaker Volume Test: iPhone 15 Pro Max vs iPhone 14 Pro Max [Video] - iClarified

[Dennis Long]

https://www.iclarified.com/91599/speaker-volume-test-iphone-15-pro-max-vs-iphone-14-pro-max-video

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Apple identifies iOS 17 bug causing iPhone 15 Pro models to overheat | Macworld

[Mary Otten]

Title: Apple identifies iOS 17 bug causing iPhone 15 Pro models to overheat | Macworld
https://www.macworld.com/article/2088105/iphone-15-pro-overheating-ios-17-bug-app-updates.html?utm_date=20230930214507_campaign=Macworld%20Daily_content=Title%3A%20Apple%20identifies%20iOS%2017%20bug%20causing%20iPhone%2015%20Pro%20models%20to%20overheat_term=Editorial%20-%20Macworld%20Daily_medium=email_source=Adestra=6dd4b8d6-d41a-4792-8b47-f0d54946842f

Apple identifies iOS 17 bug causing iPhone 15 Pro models to overheatTitanium isn’t to blame after all.			

	 By Michael Simon 


	 Executive Editor,  		 Macworld	SEP 30, 2023 11:48 am PDT
			
	
		
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For the past week, the jubilant iPhone 15 launch has been somewhat overshadowed by widespread reports of overheating. According to many users on X (formerly Twitter), Reddit, and Apple’s forums, the new handsets can get so hot as to be hard to hold. Apple has finally responded and assures a fix is on the way.



In a statement to media outlets, Apple is confident that the issue is related to software rather than the A17 Pro chip or titanium enclosure. The company has targeted three possible reasons for the overheating in some iPhone 15 Pro models:




Apple says iPhones “may feel warmer during the first few days after setting up or restoring the device because of increased background activity.” That’s a fairly common issue with new smartphones but appears to have been exasperated with the iPhone 15 launch.



Some apps, including Instagram and Uber, that were recently updated to support iOS 17 have been overloading the A17 Pro chip’s CPU. Apple says it is working with affected developers on fixes that are in the process of rolling out.



A bug in iOS 17 that is “impacting some users” will be addressed in a future software update.




Apple insists that the overheating issues aren’t related to the A17 Pro processor, iPhone 15’s titanium chassis, or its updated internal design. The company also squashed a report from Ming-Chi Kuo that it could limit performance to keep the system-on-chip cool under heavier loads, saying it “will not be lowering the performance of the A17 Pro chip” as part of the planned fixes.



Apple began testing iOS 17.1 on Wednesday, though a fix could come as part of an iOS 17.0.3 update as well.

		
			
			

		
		
		
		Author: Michael Simon, Executive Editor		
			


Michael Simon has been covering Apple since the iPod was the iWalk. His obsession with technology goes back to his first PC—the IBM Thinkpad with the lift-up keyboard for swapping out the drive. He's still waiting for that to come back in style tbh.

	

			
		
		
			
			
		
			
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RE: iPhone 15 Pro overheating problems caused by design compromises, Kuo says

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Which is why it is often better for the second generation of new designs, chip 
architecture and so on.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of lenron 
brown
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2023 12:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 15 Pro overheating problems caused by design compromises, 
Kuo says

Well people cried and cried about how the 14 pro and 14 pro max was too heavy, 
and this is what they got. I am sure they will get it right next year though.

On 9/26/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> One of the reasons why it's not a bad idea to wait for the second 
> generation of this type of technology. The A18 chip in the Pro phones 
> next year will still be a 3 NM chip, but if Apple has issues with 
> overheating this year and they can't totally address them with 
> software updates, then you can be sure that next year's phone design will 
> address them.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2023 11:25 AM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: iPhone 15 Pro overheating problems caused by design 
> compromises, Kuo says
>
> Bummer!
>
> iPhone 15 Pro overheating problems caused by design compromises, Kuo 
> says 9to5Mac  /  Chance Miller
>
> [https://9to5mac.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2023/09/iphone-15-pro-
> max-display.jpg?quality=82=all=1600]
>
> Since the iPhone 15 Pro launched on Friday, we’ve seen somewhat 
> widespread 
> reports<https://9to5mac.com/2023/09/26/iphone-15-overheating/> of 
> overheating problems. In a new post on Tuesday, analyst Ming-Chi Kuo 
> says<https://medium.com/@mingchikuo/the-iphone-15-pro-series-overheati
> ng-issues-are-unrelated-to-tsmcs-advanced-3nm-node-iphone-15-5f354b1ab
> 155> that these problems aren’t due to the 3nm A17 Pro chip, but 
> rather “compromises made in the thermal system.”
>
> The A17 Pro chip inside the iPhone 15 Pro is Apple and TSMC’s first 
> 3nm processor. This has led to speculation that the new 3nm technology 
> is to blame for overheating problems. What Kuo says, however, is that 
> the problems are due to changes Apple made to accommodate the switch 
> to titanium and make the iPhone 15 Pro models lighter than their predecessors.
>
> Kuo writes:
>
> My survey indicates that the iPhone 15 Pro series overheating issues 
> are unrelated to TSMC’s advanced 3nm node. The primary cause is more 
> likely the compromises made in the thermal system design to achieve a 
> lighter weight, such as the reduced heat dissipation area and the use 
> of a titanium frame, which negatively impacts thermal efficiency.
>
> Kuo predicts that Apple will be able to address these problems through 
> software updates. That being said Apple may struggle to make too many 
> improvements without also compromising chip performance:
>
> It’s expected that Apple will address this through software updates, 
> but improvements may be limited unless Apple lowers processor 
> performance. If Apple does not properly address this issue, it could 
> negatively impact shipments over the product life cycle of the iPhone 15 Pro 
> series.
>
> We detailed some of the complaints surrounding the iPhone 15 Pro’s 
> overheating 
> concerns<https://9to5mac.com/2023/09/26/iphone-15-overheating/>
> earlier this morning. Have you noticed your device getting abnormally warm?
> Let us know in the comments below.
>
>
> Original Article:
> https://9to5mac.com/2023/09/26/iphone-15-pro-overheating-updates-fix/
>
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RE: iPhone 15 Pro overheating problems caused by design compromises, Kuo says

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, it probably can be fixed with a software update, but that also means Apple 
may have to throttle the performance of their fancy and superfast 3 NM A17 chip 
which I am sure many will not appreciate.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2023 2:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 15 Pro overheating problems caused by design compromises, 
Kuo says

This can be fixed through software the same person said in another article.

> On Sep 28, 2023, at 3:05 AM, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> Well people cried and cried about how the 14 pro and 14 pro max was 
> too heavy, and this is what they got. I am sure they will get it right 
> next year though.
> 
>> On 9/26/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> One of the reasons why it's not a bad idea to wait for the second 
>> generation of this type of technology. The A18 chip in the Pro phones 
>> next year will still be a 3 NM chip, but if Apple has issues with 
>> overheating this year and they can't totally address them with 
>> software updates, then you can be sure that next year's phone design will 
>> address them.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2023 11:25 AM
>> To: via VIPhone 
>> Subject: iPhone 15 Pro overheating problems caused by design 
>> compromises, Kuo says
>> 
>> Bummer!
>> 
>> iPhone 15 Pro overheating problems caused by design compromises, Kuo 
>> says 9to5Mac  /  Chance Miller
>> 
>> [https://9to5mac.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2023/09/iphone-15-pro
>> -max-display.jpg?quality=82=all=1600]
>> 
>> Since the iPhone 15 Pro launched on Friday, we’ve seen somewhat 
>> widespread 
>> reports<https://9to5mac.com/2023/09/26/iphone-15-overheating/> of 
>> overheating problems. In a new post on Tuesday, analyst Ming-Chi Kuo 
>> says<https://medium.com/@mingchikuo/the-iphone-15-pro-series-overheat
>> ing-issues-are-unrelated-to-tsmcs-advanced-3nm-node-iphone-15-5f354b1
>> ab155> that these problems aren’t due to the 3nm A17 Pro chip, but 
>> rather “compromises made in the thermal system.”
>> 
>> The A17 Pro chip inside the iPhone 15 Pro is Apple and TSMC’s first 
>> 3nm processor. This has led to speculation that the new 3nm 
>> technology is to blame for overheating problems. What Kuo says, 
>> however, is that the problems are due to changes Apple made to 
>> accommodate the switch to titanium and make the iPhone 15 Pro models lighter 
>> than their predecessors.
>> 
>> Kuo writes:
>> 
>> My survey indicates that the iPhone 15 Pro series overheating issues 
>> are unrelated to TSMC’s advanced 3nm node. The primary cause is more 
>> likely the compromises made in the thermal system design to achieve a 
>> lighter weight, such as the reduced heat dissipation area and the use 
>> of a titanium frame, which negatively impacts thermal efficiency.
>> 
>> Kuo predicts that Apple will be able to address these problems 
>> through software updates. That being said Apple may struggle to make 
>> too many improvements without also compromising chip performance:
>> 
>> It’s expected that Apple will address this through software updates, 
>> but improvements may be limited unless Apple lowers processor 
>> performance. If Apple does not properly address this issue, it could 
>> negatively impact shipments over the product life cycle of the iPhone 15 Pro 
>> series.
>> 
>> We detailed some of the complaints surrounding the iPhone 15 Pro’s 
>> overheating 
>> concerns<https://9to5mac.com/2023/09/26/iphone-15-overheating/>
>> earlier this morning. Have you noticed your device getting abnormally warm?
>> Let us know in the comments below.
>> 
>> 
>> Original Article:
>> https://9to5mac.com/2023/09/26/iphone-15-pro-overheating-updates-fix/
>> 
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Re: iPhone 15 Pro overheating problems caused by design compromises, Kuo says

[Dennis Long]

This can be fixed through software the same person said in another article.

> On Sep 28, 2023, at 3:05 AM, lenron brown  wrote:
> 
> Well people cried and cried about how the 14 pro and 14 pro max was
> too heavy, and this is what they got. I am sure they will get it right
> next year though.
> 
>> On 9/26/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> One of the reasons why it's not a bad idea to wait for the second generation
>> of this type of technology. The A18 chip in the Pro phones next year will
>> still be a 3 NM chip, but if Apple has issues with overheating this year and
>> they can't totally address them with software updates, then you can be sure
>> that next year's phone design will address them.
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary
>> Otten
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2023 11:25 AM
>> To: via VIPhone 
>> Subject: iPhone 15 Pro overheating problems caused by design compromises,
>> Kuo says
>> 
>> Bummer!
>> 
>> iPhone 15 Pro overheating problems caused by design compromises, Kuo says
>> 9to5Mac  /  Chance Miller
>> 
>> [https://9to5mac.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2023/09/iphone-15-pro-max-display.jpg?quality=82=all=1600]
>> 
>> Since the iPhone 15 Pro launched on Friday, we’ve seen somewhat widespread
>> reports<https://9to5mac.com/2023/09/26/iphone-15-overheating/> of
>> overheating problems. In a new post on Tuesday, analyst Ming-Chi Kuo
>> says<https://medium.com/@mingchikuo/the-iphone-15-pro-series-overheating-issues-are-unrelated-to-tsmcs-advanced-3nm-node-iphone-15-5f354b1ab155>
>> that these problems aren’t due to the 3nm A17 Pro chip, but rather
>> “compromises made in the thermal system.”
>> 
>> The A17 Pro chip inside the iPhone 15 Pro is Apple and TSMC’s first 3nm
>> processor. This has led to speculation that the new 3nm technology is to
>> blame for overheating problems. What Kuo says, however, is that the problems
>> are due to changes Apple made to accommodate the switch to titanium and make
>> the iPhone 15 Pro models lighter than their predecessors.
>> 
>> Kuo writes:
>> 
>> My survey indicates that the iPhone 15 Pro series overheating issues are
>> unrelated to TSMC’s advanced 3nm node. The primary cause is more likely the
>> compromises made in the thermal system design to achieve a lighter weight,
>> such as the reduced heat dissipation area and the use of a titanium frame,
>> which negatively impacts thermal efficiency.
>> 
>> Kuo predicts that Apple will be able to address these problems through
>> software updates. That being said Apple may struggle to make too many
>> improvements without also compromising chip performance:
>> 
>> It’s expected that Apple will address this through software updates, but
>> improvements may be limited unless Apple lowers processor performance. If
>> Apple does not properly address this issue, it could negatively impact
>> shipments over the product life cycle of the iPhone 15 Pro series.
>> 
>> We detailed some of the complaints surrounding the iPhone 15 Pro’s
>> overheating concerns<https://9to5mac.com/2023/09/26/iphone-15-overheating/>
>> earlier this morning. Have you noticed your device getting abnormally warm?
>> Let us know in the comments below.
>> 
>> 
>> Original Article:
>> https://9to5mac.com/2023/09/26/iphone-15-pro-overheating-updates-fix/
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Re: iPhone 15 Pro overheating problems caused by design compromises, Kuo says

[lenron brown]

Well people cried and cried about how the 14 pro and 14 pro max was
too heavy, and this is what they got. I am sure they will get it right
next year though.

On 9/26/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> One of the reasons why it's not a bad idea to wait for the second generation
> of this type of technology. The A18 chip in the Pro phones next year will
> still be a 3 NM chip, but if Apple has issues with overheating this year and
> they can't totally address them with software updates, then you can be sure
> that next year's phone design will address them.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary
> Otten
> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2023 11:25 AM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: iPhone 15 Pro overheating problems caused by design compromises,
> Kuo says
>
> Bummer!
>
> iPhone 15 Pro overheating problems caused by design compromises, Kuo says
> 9to5Mac  /  Chance Miller
>
> [https://9to5mac.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2023/09/iphone-15-pro-max-display.jpg?quality=82=all=1600]
>
> Since the iPhone 15 Pro launched on Friday, we’ve seen somewhat widespread
> reports<https://9to5mac.com/2023/09/26/iphone-15-overheating/> of
> overheating problems. In a new post on Tuesday, analyst Ming-Chi Kuo
> says<https://medium.com/@mingchikuo/the-iphone-15-pro-series-overheating-issues-are-unrelated-to-tsmcs-advanced-3nm-node-iphone-15-5f354b1ab155>
> that these problems aren’t due to the 3nm A17 Pro chip, but rather
> “compromises made in the thermal system.”
>
> The A17 Pro chip inside the iPhone 15 Pro is Apple and TSMC’s first 3nm
> processor. This has led to speculation that the new 3nm technology is to
> blame for overheating problems. What Kuo says, however, is that the problems
> are due to changes Apple made to accommodate the switch to titanium and make
> the iPhone 15 Pro models lighter than their predecessors.
>
> Kuo writes:
>
> My survey indicates that the iPhone 15 Pro series overheating issues are
> unrelated to TSMC’s advanced 3nm node. The primary cause is more likely the
> compromises made in the thermal system design to achieve a lighter weight,
> such as the reduced heat dissipation area and the use of a titanium frame,
> which negatively impacts thermal efficiency.
>
> Kuo predicts that Apple will be able to address these problems through
> software updates. That being said Apple may struggle to make too many
> improvements without also compromising chip performance:
>
> It’s expected that Apple will address this through software updates, but
> improvements may be limited unless Apple lowers processor performance. If
> Apple does not properly address this issue, it could negatively impact
> shipments over the product life cycle of the iPhone 15 Pro series.
>
> We detailed some of the complaints surrounding the iPhone 15 Pro’s
> overheating concerns<https://9to5mac.com/2023/09/26/iphone-15-overheating/>
> earlier this morning. Have you noticed your device getting abnormally warm?
> Let us know in the comments below.
>
>
> Original Article:
> https://9to5mac.com/2023/09/26/iphone-15-pro-overheating-updates-fix/
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Re: Iphone 15 Pro

[Mohib Anwar Rafay]

What made you to buy pro model in stead of going for standard  one?

On 9/27/23, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> I'm sure you will enjoy your new purchase.
>
> On 9/27/23, William Outman  wrote:
>> Well, I finally got my 15 Pro ordered last night when I dropped by a
>> local
>> AT location.
>> I have the accessories in hand, the case, screen protector, and charging
>> block.
>> Bill
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Re: Iphone 15 Pro

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I'm sure you will enjoy your new purchase.

On 9/27/23, William Outman  wrote:
> Well, I finally got my 15 Pro ordered last night when I dropped by a local
> AT location.
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Iphone 15 Pro

[William Outman]

Well, I finally got my 15 Pro ordered last night when I dropped by a local AT 
location. 
I have the accessories in hand, the case, screen protector, and charging block. 
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RE: iPhone 15 Pro overheating problems caused by design compromises, Kuo says

[Sieghard Weitzel]

One of the reasons why it's not a bad idea to wait for the second generation of 
this type of technology. The A18 chip in the Pro phones next year will still be 
a 3 NM chip, but if Apple has issues with overheating this year and they can't 
totally address them with software updates, then you can be sure that next 
year's phone design will address them.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2023 11:25 AM
To: via VIPhone 
Subject: iPhone 15 Pro overheating problems caused by design compromises, Kuo 
says

Bummer!

iPhone 15 Pro overheating problems caused by design compromises, Kuo says
9to5Mac  /  Chance Miller

[https://9to5mac.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2023/09/iphone-15-pro-max-display.jpg?quality=82=all=1600]

Since the iPhone 15 Pro launched on Friday, we’ve seen somewhat widespread 
reports<https://9to5mac.com/2023/09/26/iphone-15-overheating/> of overheating 
problems. In a new post on Tuesday, analyst Ming-Chi Kuo 
says<https://medium.com/@mingchikuo/the-iphone-15-pro-series-overheating-issues-are-unrelated-to-tsmcs-advanced-3nm-node-iphone-15-5f354b1ab155>
 that these problems aren’t due to the 3nm A17 Pro chip, but rather 
“compromises made in the thermal system.”

The A17 Pro chip inside the iPhone 15 Pro is Apple and TSMC’s first 3nm 
processor. This has led to speculation that the new 3nm technology is to blame 
for overheating problems. What Kuo says, however, is that the problems are due 
to changes Apple made to accommodate the switch to titanium and make the iPhone 
15 Pro models lighter than their predecessors.

Kuo writes:

My survey indicates that the iPhone 15 Pro series overheating issues are 
unrelated to TSMC’s advanced 3nm node. The primary cause is more likely the 
compromises made in the thermal system design to achieve a lighter weight, such 
as the reduced heat dissipation area and the use of a titanium frame, which 
negatively impacts thermal efficiency.

Kuo predicts that Apple will be able to address these problems through software 
updates. That being said Apple may struggle to make too many improvements 
without also compromising chip performance:

It’s expected that Apple will address this through software updates, but 
improvements may be limited unless Apple lowers processor performance. If Apple 
does not properly address this issue, it could negatively impact shipments over 
the product life cycle of the iPhone 15 Pro series.

We detailed some of the complaints surrounding the iPhone 15 Pro’s overheating 
concerns<https://9to5mac.com/2023/09/26/iphone-15-overheating/> earlier this 
morning. Have you noticed your device getting abnormally warm? Let us know in 
the comments below.


Original Article: 
https://9to5mac.com/2023/09/26/iphone-15-pro-overheating-updates-fix/

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RE: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and iPhone 15 Pro Max Running iOS 17.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I could think of several Hundred reasons why I wouldn't get an iPhone Pro Max 1 
Tb, in fact, compared to an iPhone 15 Pro 128 Gb it's probably a thousand 
reasons!

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2023 3:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and iPhone 
15 Pro Max Running iOS 17.

Get the pro max 1tb why not?


-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2023 6:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and iPhone 
15 Pro Max Running iOS 17.

Sieghard, 

Thank you for the biggest, laugh out loud moment, I've had all week.

Know what?  You are absolutely right (big, big smile).

I am going to grab one next week.  I am going to do my best to stick with a 15 
Plus but I'll probably get the Pro Max.  If I get a Pro Max, I will do my best 
to stick with a 256GB but, I don't know.  I might have to get the 1TB.  Old 
habits are so difficult to break (smile).

Again, thank you for the wonderful reply and for truly making my day.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2023 9:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and iPhone 
15 Pro Max Running iOS 17.

You may as well go and get one since your "perhaps I'll get a 15 Pro Max" means 
"I may not want to say it now, but I'll definitely get one in a couple of days"

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2023 5:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and iPhone 15 
Pro Max Running iOS 17.

Hello All, 

I first sent this message to the list, yesterday, Friday, at around 12-noon, 
local time but the mailing list servers were down.

So, I am posting this again, now.

Mark

Original Message Posted on Friday, September 22, 2023:

Hello All,

Well, I spent 3 hours in the Apple Store this morning with both a 15 Plus and a 
15 Pro Max running iOS 17.

As for the physical devices?  They definitely weigh less than the 14 series.

I am happy to report that I could not reproduce any of the VoiceOver problems 
discussed on the list, of late.

For example, the single-finger, double-tap problem simply does not exist on the 
15 models I tested.

I had a friend of mine, the executive manager of the store, download a few 
third-party apps such as Amazon, Libby, and Yelp.  To my delight, VoiceOver 
functioned just as expected.

Of course, I was not able to test VoiceOver functionality with my personal 
primary third-party app;  so in no way am I suggesting that my testing was 
definitive or comprehensive.

However, I can say that my first experience with iOS 17 was a good one.

I was delighted to discover that while there were hundreds of preorder 
customers waiting in-line, outside the location, the store had plenty of iPhone 
15 models, in all four major categories, ready to be purchase by those of us 
who did not preorder.

I wasn't planning on buying a 15 but I have to admit that I really, really like 
that new action button, featured on the Pro models.  Perhaps I'll pick up a 15 
Pro Max in the next week or so, after I've given it some thought.

I did, however, purchase a set of wired Ear Pods with the USBC connector and 
the USBC to Lightning adaptor so that I can continue to use my already 
purchased Lightning Ear Pods with USBC devices.  It's all about "baby steps"
(smile).

Your Brother in the Journey,

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RE: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and iPhone 15 Pro Max Running iOS 17.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I am surprised your husband didn't give the Apple Store rep a piece of his 
mind, if he or she would have been disrespectful to my wife I would have 
immediately asked to speak to a manager and explained to them that this was 
certainly not the right way to treat a customer and then I would have asked if 
somebody without the attitude could help us.

As for the issues with battery life on your SE 2022, a complete reset and 
starting from scratch is definitely the recommended course of action. It's a 
pain in the neck (or lower), but while it is inconvenient and takes time, 
setting up a phone from scratch every few years and slowly adding back apps, 
customizing settings and all that can be a very good thing.

And finally here an article about that iPhone 15 Pro drop test which I read 
everybody says has to be taken with a grain of salt as it seem to be the first 
one of this kind so I think we'll have to see if other tests confirm what this 
guy discovered. I think, by the way, it's ridiculous what people do to get 
clicks and likes, apparently he flew all the way to Australia because of the 
time difference so he can get his hands on an iPhone 15 Pro a few hours earlier 
and do this. Until people stop wasting these types of resources humanity will 
never get ahead in their fight against reducing emuissions and a more 
sustainable approach to living on this planet; just my two cents worth 
regarding this:

In what is most likely the first drop test of the new titanium iPhone 15 Pro, a 
reviewer flew to Sydney, Australia, and pitted the handset in a series of drops 
against the stainless steel iPhone 14 Pro.
It wasn’t pretty. In fact, after doing OK in a few little drops, how the iPhone 
15 Pro fared in bigger drops was shocking — even disturbing. The older
iPhone won, to say the least. Early drop tests damage titanium iPhone 15 Pro 
far more than its stainless steel predecessor
In the YouTube video by AppleTrack’s Sam Kohl, the 6-foot-tall reviewer starts 
off with some waist-high drops of iPhone 15 Pro
 and 14 Pro on concrete in front of the Sydney Opera House. Watch it below.
“I flew all the way to Australia to get the iPhone 15 early and drop test it vs 
the iPhone 14 Pro!” He wrote on the video page. “And as it turns out …
the titanium iPhone 15 Pro isn’t as strong as I thought it would be.”
That’s an understatement. In the video, he becomes increasingly flabbergasted 
at how badly the titanium phone handles the bigger drops.
Low drops did little harm
group start It only took roughly 6-foot drops and a bit higher to badly crack 
iPhone 15 Pro’s front and back. Photo: AppleTrack
It only took roughly 6-foot drops and a bit higher to badly crack iPhone 15 
Pro's front and back.
Both the iPhone 15 Pro and 14 Pro do fine in the first few drops on their 
edges, glass backs and screens, with barely a nick here and there.
But as the drops get higher, up around face-high, the new handset starts to get 
into trouble. Spiderweb cracking shows up first on the glass back. The
iPhone 14 Pro just shows wear on the edges.
iPhone 14 Pro soon shows its mettle
After quite a few drops, the iPhone 14 Pro still only suffered some nicks on 
the edges.
Before it’s over, the entertaining video shows the iPhone 15 Pro developing 
cracks all over the front and back while the older handset looks almost perfect.
The reviewer seeks out higher and higher drops, eventually going to a roughly 
40-foot drop from a walkway down to a plaza’s pavement. That’s a big drop
for any phone, and it finally caused cracking on the iPhone 14 Pro’s front and 
back.
But the already-trashed iPhone 14 Pro saw its camera assembly pop out on the 
40-footer. And its screen already had stopped functioning in the previous
drops. Meanwhile, the iPhone 14 Pro still worked fine even after the huge drop.
Rounded edges may be a problem
Photo image of AppleTrack
iPhone 15 Pro DROP TEST! Is Titanium STRONGER?
Kohl speculates in the video that iPhone 15 Pro’s rounded titanium edges may 
actually enable impact to spread cracks to the front and back glass more easily
than iPhone 14 Pro’s straight stainless-steel banded edges.
For that or other reasons, the iPhone 14 Pro absorbed or perhaps deflected 
impact much better than the new handset.
It will be interesting to see what more carefully executed drop testing might 
reveal about iPhone 15 series handsets’ durability.
In the meantime, let’s just say if you buy a new iPhone 15, now’s not the time 
to experiment with going without a case.

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 6:50 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and iPhone 
15 Pro Max Running iOS 17.

Hi Marda,

Thank you for posting such an interesting reply to this thread.

It is difficult to believe that, even in 2023, a store rep would treat you 
differently than your husband.  I continue to hear such things and it truly 
saddens me

RE: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and iPhone 15 Pro Max Running iOS 17.

[M. Taylor]

Hi Marda,

Thank you for posting such an interesting reply to this thread.

It is difficult to believe that, even in 2023, a store rep would treat you 
differently than your husband.  I continue to hear such things and it truly 
saddens me to no end.  Such things are detestable.

Sadly, many tech stores attempt to blame the customer rather than doing some 
serious troubleshooting.  

I'll bet if you took your devices to a carrier store, they would blame Apple.  
I, too, have encountered such scenarios.  It is awful.

As for the article that states that the 14 models hold up better than the 15 
models, I am not surprised.

So, yesterday, while in the store, as I was holding my beloved 14 in one hand 
and a 15 in the other, an employee of the store, with whom I have more than a 
passing acquaintance, asked, "What do you think of the knew phone?"  

In an extremely quiet and somewhat conspiratorial tone I replied, "Honestly, it 
feels like a cheap piece of plastic."  We both laughed out loud.  It was a 
wonderful moment.

Again, thank you for posting.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: Marda  
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2023 6:59 PM
To: M. Taylor 
Subject: Re: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and iPhone 
15 Pro Max Running iOS 17.

 From an article I read on applevis it seems the voiceover problems are very 
intermittent, have happened with five of their editorial team and another user 
they know of and aren't easily reproduceable because they don't happen every 
time and they happen with really very very few users.  Kind of reminds me of 
medications that have to report certain side effects that happen one time but 
rarely if ever happen.  They have to report it so they cover themselves but the 
risk of it happening is very very low to any given person.  I sort of view the 
voiceover issues in 17 this way.  I was going to first put it on a backup older 
phone as my husband has always done and recommended but even he, generally 
cautious and conservative as he is when it comes to such things, has decided to 
take the plunge and update his primary phone this weekend. Think I will 
probably do the same because my backup phone has apps on it that I like to use 
but I don't use it for phone calls so I can't test things like how it will 
react on calls so I'm figuring I'll probably download and install it as well on 
my primary device.  Thinking though of getting another phone.  I don't really 
want to and it would be a financial hardship but I have been having a lot of 
issues with the
SE2022 that I purchased in March.  One of them is what appears to be a fairly 
common issue, happening to my husband as well with his SE2022 purchased last 
October, where the battery not only drains very very quickly even when the 
phone isn't being used (like for me a couple of days ago I took it out for the 
evening and didn't even use it but it went from 100 percent to 32 percent in 
only about five hours.  I have a case with another battery so could have 
managed but still this is disturbing.  Both of us are having a another issue 
where the phone gets hot very quickly with minimal use, no heavy gaming or 
anything.  He has had the same kind of battery issues too whether he has 
charged his phone in the more traditional way using the ilightning cable or 
with a mag safe battery and charger.  I went to the apple store a few weeks ago 
for these issues plus another one where I was getting crackling sounds and 
seemingly broken up sounds like you'd get when the phone signal is inadequate 
or breaking up but those conditions weren't happening, signal strength was 
strong and all that.  When I took the phone off automaticaly going to 
speakerphone it helped some but the problem still persisted.  I was hoping 
apple would either give me a new battery or a new phone or something since I 
have apple care plus but they did neither.  They told me it could be a problem 
with my carrier or a software issue or a hardware issue (really helpful) and 
they were slightly more helpful to my husband who was with me because the guy 
actually spoke to him respectfully rather than dismissively and condescendingly 
as he did to me.  But even so he basically tried to blame us or the carrier.  A 
totally wasted trip to the store, no resolution of the issue.  So I don't use 
speakerphone anymore and that helped some. But that doesn't sound like a 
carrier issue to me.  If it's a software issue the guy told us we might have to 
actually take everything off the phone and start totally from scratch.  On a 
totally unrelated note, I read an interesting article about the new iPhones 
that are made of titanium.  Yes they are lighter which is neat.  But this 
article did a drop test and compared a 14 pro to a 15 (the 15 being titanium, 
the 14 stainless steel) and let's just say that the titanium didn't hold up 
well when dropped compared to the 14.  So it makes me wonder because I'm not 
hard on phones

Re: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and iPhone 15 Pro Max Running iOS 17.

[lenron brown]

I checked out the 15 pro max in store yesterday, and it is a bit
lighter. Also the button is kind of nice just because you can remap
it. I am still planning on holding off a bit but it might be nice to
upgrade to. At this point the design changes are kind of small so it
looks like the same phone with slight changes that might make a
difference to you. I also think the pro and pro max should have gotten
the faster Usb C cable in the box, but you can buy that one for 29
bucks.

On 9/23/23, Dennis Long  wrote:
> Get the pro max 1tb why not?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2023 6:27 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and
> iPhone 15 Pro Max Running iOS 17.
>
> Sieghard,
>
> Thank you for the biggest, laugh out loud moment, I've had all week.
>
> Know what?  You are absolutely right (big, big smile).
>
> I am going to grab one next week.  I am going to do my best to stick with a
> 15 Plus but I'll probably get the Pro Max.  If I get a Pro Max, I will do my
> best to stick with a 256GB but, I don't know.  I might have to get the 1TB.
> Old habits are so difficult to break (smile).
>
> Again, thank you for the wonderful reply and for truly making my day.
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2023 9:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and
> iPhone 15 Pro Max Running iOS 17.
>
> You may as well go and get one since your "perhaps I'll get a 15 Pro Max"
> means "I may not want to say it now, but I'll definitely get one in a couple
> of days"
>
> -Original Message-
> From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2023 5:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and iPhone 15
> Pro Max Running iOS 17.
>
> Hello All,
>
> I first sent this message to the list, yesterday, Friday, at around 12-noon,
> local time but the mailing list servers were down.
>
> So, I am posting this again, now.
>
> Mark
>
> Original Message Posted on Friday, September 22, 2023:
>
> Hello All,
>
> Well, I spent 3 hours in the Apple Store this morning with both a 15 Plus
> and a 15 Pro Max running iOS 17.
>
> As for the physical devices?  They definitely weigh less than the 14
> series.
>
> I am happy to report that I could not reproduce any of the VoiceOver
> problems discussed on the list, of late.
>
> For example, the single-finger, double-tap problem simply does not exist on
> the 15 models I tested.
>
> I had a friend of mine, the executive manager of the store, download a few
> third-party apps such as Amazon, Libby, and Yelp.  To my delight, VoiceOver
> functioned just as expected.
>
> Of course, I was not able to test VoiceOver functionality with my personal
> primary third-party app;  so in no way am I suggesting that my testing was
> definitive or comprehensive.
>
> However, I can say that my first experience with iOS 17 was a good one.
>
> I was delighted to discover that while there were hundreds of preorder
> customers waiting in-line, outside the location, the store had plenty of
> iPhone 15 models, in all four major categories, ready to be purchase by
> those of us who did not preorder.
>
> I wasn't planning on buying a 15 but I have to admit that I really, really
> like that new action button, featured on the Pro models.  Perhaps I'll pick
> up a 15 Pro Max in the next week or so, after I've given it some thought.
>
> I did, however, purchase a set of wired Ear Pods with the USBC connector and
> the USBC to Lightning adaptor so that I can continue to use my already
> purchased Lightning Ear Pods with USBC devices.  It's all about "baby
> steps"
> (smile).
>
> Your Brother in the Journey,
>
> Mark
>
>
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RE: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and iPhone 15 Pro Max Running iOS 17.

[Dennis Long]

Get the pro max 1tb why not?


-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2023 6:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and iPhone 
15 Pro Max Running iOS 17.

Sieghard, 

Thank you for the biggest, laugh out loud moment, I've had all week.

Know what?  You are absolutely right (big, big smile).

I am going to grab one next week.  I am going to do my best to stick with a 15 
Plus but I'll probably get the Pro Max.  If I get a Pro Max, I will do my best 
to stick with a 256GB but, I don't know.  I might have to get the 1TB.  Old 
habits are so difficult to break (smile).

Again, thank you for the wonderful reply and for truly making my day.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2023 9:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and iPhone 
15 Pro Max Running iOS 17.

You may as well go and get one since your "perhaps I'll get a 15 Pro Max" means 
"I may not want to say it now, but I'll definitely get one in a couple of days"

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2023 5:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and iPhone 15 
Pro Max Running iOS 17.

Hello All, 

I first sent this message to the list, yesterday, Friday, at around 12-noon, 
local time but the mailing list servers were down.

So, I am posting this again, now.

Mark

Original Message Posted on Friday, September 22, 2023:

Hello All,

Well, I spent 3 hours in the Apple Store this morning with both a 15 Plus and a 
15 Pro Max running iOS 17.

As for the physical devices?  They definitely weigh less than the 14 series.

I am happy to report that I could not reproduce any of the VoiceOver problems 
discussed on the list, of late.

For example, the single-finger, double-tap problem simply does not exist on the 
15 models I tested.

I had a friend of mine, the executive manager of the store, download a few 
third-party apps such as Amazon, Libby, and Yelp.  To my delight, VoiceOver 
functioned just as expected.

Of course, I was not able to test VoiceOver functionality with my personal 
primary third-party app;  so in no way am I suggesting that my testing was 
definitive or comprehensive.

However, I can say that my first experience with iOS 17 was a good one.

I was delighted to discover that while there were hundreds of preorder 
customers waiting in-line, outside the location, the store had plenty of iPhone 
15 models, in all four major categories, ready to be purchase by those of us 
who did not preorder.

I wasn't planning on buying a 15 but I have to admit that I really, really like 
that new action button, featured on the Pro models.  Perhaps I'll pick up a 15 
Pro Max in the next week or so, after I've given it some thought.

I did, however, purchase a set of wired Ear Pods with the USBC connector and 
the USBC to Lightning adaptor so that I can continue to use my already 
purchased Lightning Ear Pods with USBC devices.  It's all about "baby steps"
(smile).

Your Brother in the Journey,

Mark


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RE: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and iPhone 15 Pro Max Running iOS 17.

[M. Taylor]

Sieghard, 

Thank you for the biggest, laugh out loud moment, I've had all week.

Know what?  You are absolutely right (big, big smile).

I am going to grab one next week.  I am going to do my best to stick with a 15 
Plus but I'll probably get the Pro Max.  If I get a Pro Max, I will do my best 
to stick with a 256GB but, I don't know.  I might have to get the 1TB.  Old 
habits are so difficult to break (smile).

Again, thank you for the wonderful reply and for truly making my day.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2023 9:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and iPhone 
15 Pro Max Running iOS 17.

You may as well go and get one since your "perhaps I'll get a 15 Pro Max" means 
"I may not want to say it now, but I'll definitely get one in a couple of days"

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2023 5:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and iPhone 15 
Pro Max Running iOS 17.

Hello All, 

I first sent this message to the list, yesterday, Friday, at around 12-noon, 
local time but the mailing list servers were down.

So, I am posting this again, now.

Mark

Original Message Posted on Friday, September 22, 2023:

Hello All,

Well, I spent 3 hours in the Apple Store this morning with both a 15 Plus and a 
15 Pro Max running iOS 17.

As for the physical devices?  They definitely weigh less than the 14 series.

I am happy to report that I could not reproduce any of the VoiceOver problems 
discussed on the list, of late.

For example, the single-finger, double-tap problem simply does not exist on the 
15 models I tested.

I had a friend of mine, the executive manager of the store, download a few 
third-party apps such as Amazon, Libby, and Yelp.  To my delight, VoiceOver 
functioned just as expected.

Of course, I was not able to test VoiceOver functionality with my personal 
primary third-party app;  so in no way am I suggesting that my testing was 
definitive or comprehensive.

However, I can say that my first experience with iOS 17 was a good one.

I was delighted to discover that while there were hundreds of preorder 
customers waiting in-line, outside the location, the store had plenty of iPhone 
15 models, in all four major categories, ready to be purchase by those of us 
who did not preorder.

I wasn't planning on buying a 15 but I have to admit that I really, really like 
that new action button, featured on the Pro models.  Perhaps I'll pick up a 15 
Pro Max in the next week or so, after I've given it some thought.

I did, however, purchase a set of wired Ear Pods with the USBC connector and 
the USBC to Lightning adaptor so that I can continue to use my already 
purchased Lightning Ear Pods with USBC devices.  It's all about "baby steps"
(smile).

Your Brother in the Journey,

Mark


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RE: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and iPhone 15 Pro Max Running iOS 17.

[Christopher Chaltain]

I've had this problem on my iPhone 11 and previous versions of IOS.

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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2023 1:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and iPhone 
15 Pro Max Running iOS 17.

Hi Mark and all,

Sadly my experience with the new iPhone 15 Pr is manifesting the annoying drag 
and drop bug wherein when attempting to place apps before or after others 
folders are inadvertently created against the user's will. It is really 
irritating and this is on an iPhone 15 Pr which was set up as new so there's no 
corruption potentially from having restored from a backup.

I'm also still not receiving sounders for in coming email even though all is 
set properly. But other than those all seems well at this early hour.

And I agree the 15's do feel lighter than those that had come before them.

Take good care,

Robin


On 9/23/2023 8:56 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I first sent this message to the list, yesterday, Friday, at around
> 12-noon, local time but the mailing list servers were down.
>
> So, I am posting this again, now.
>
> Mark
>
> Original Message Posted on Friday, September 22, 2023:
>
> Hello All,
>
> Well, I spent 3 hours in the Apple Store this morning with both a 15
> Plus and a 15 Pro Max running iOS 17.
>
> As for the physical devices?  They definitely weigh less than the 14 series.
>
> I am happy to report that I could not reproduce any of the VoiceOver
> problems discussed on the list, of late.
>
> For example, the single-finger, double-tap problem simply does not
> exist on the 15 models I tested.
>
> I had a friend of mine, the executive manager of the store, download a
> few third-party apps such as Amazon, Libby, and Yelp.  To my delight,
> VoiceOver functioned just as expected.
>
> Of course, I was not able to test VoiceOver functionality with my
> personal primary third-party app;  so in no way am I suggesting that
> my testing was definitive or comprehensive.
>
> However, I can say that my first experience with iOS 17 was a good one.
>
> I was delighted to discover that while there were hundreds of preorder
> customers waiting in-line, outside the location, the store had plenty
> of iPhone 15 models, in all four major categories, ready to be
> purchase by those of us who did not preorder.
>
> I wasn't planning on buying a 15 but I have to admit that I really,
> really like that new action button, featured on the Pro models.
> Perhaps I'll pick up a 15 Pro Max in the next week or so, after I've given it 
> some thought.
>
> I did, however, purchase a set of wired Ear Pods with the USBC
> connector and the USBC to Lightning adaptor so that I can continue to
> use my already purchased Lightning Ear Pods with USBC devices.  It's all 
> about "baby steps"
> (smile).
>
> Your Brother in the Journey,
>
> Mark
>
>

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RE: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and iPhone 15 Pro Max Running iOS 17.

[Christopher Chaltain]

I agree with this mostly. I still have my iPhone 11, and I’ll probably hold on 
to it until the latest IOS no longer supports it. However, no IOS or iPhone has 
been perfect, including the iPhone 8. Also, new features are constantly being 
added, so this is something to take into account when deciding to upgrade or 
not. I tend to move up to the latest version of IOS since no version of IOS 
I’ve ever run as been perfect and I am optimistic (although maybe mistakenly) 
that things will get better with every new version.

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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jenny 
Bomareto
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2023 1:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and iPhone 
15 Pro Max Running iOS 17.

That’s one of the reasons I don’t update the iOS  right away. And why I still 
have my iPhone 8 and Matt’s iPhone second GEN that came out in 2020 because all 
of these faulty things going on.  Plus, why taking pay out money for a new 
phone when the ones work just fine that we have.
Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 23, 2023, at 2:13 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>> wrote:
The tones have gone to hell in a hand basket.  I hope everyone is writing 
Apple Accessibility about this.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://www.turner42.com/>

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2023 11:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and iPhone 
15 Pro Max Running iOS 17.

Hi Mark and all,

Sadly my experience with the new iPhone 15 Pr is manifesting the annoying drag 
and drop bug wherein when attempting to place apps before or after others 
folders are inadvertently created against the user's will. It is really 
irritating and this is on an iPhone 15 Pr which was set up as new so there's no 
corruption potentially from having restored from a backup.

I'm also still not receiving sounders for in coming email even though all is 
set properly. But other than those all seems well at this early hour.

And I agree the 15's do feel lighter than those that had come before them.

Take good care,

Robin


On 9/23/2023 8:56 AM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello All,

I first sent this message to the list, yesterday, Friday, at around
12-noon, local time but the mailing list servers were down.

So, I am posting this again, now.

Mark

Original Message Posted on Friday, September 22, 2023:

Hello All,

Well, I spent 3 hours in the Apple Store this morning with both a 15
Plus and a 15 Pro Max running iOS 17.

As for the physical devices?  They definitely weigh less than the 14 series.

I am happy to report that I could not reproduce any of the VoiceOver
problems discussed on the list, of late.

For example, the single-finger, double-tap problem simply does not
exist on the 15 models I tested.

I had a friend of mine, the executive manager of the store, download a
few third-party apps such as Amazon, Libby, and Yelp.  To my delight,
VoiceOver functioned just as expected.

Of course, I was not able to test VoiceOver functionality with my
personal primary third-party app;  so in no way am I suggesting that
my testing was definitive or comprehensive.

However, I can say that my first experience with iOS 17 was a good one.

I was delighted to discover that while there were hundreds of preorder
customers waiting in-line, outside the location, the store had plenty
of iPhone 15 models, in all four major categories, ready to be
purchase by those of us who did not preorder.

I wasn't planning on buying a 15 but I have to admit that I really,
really like that new action button, featured on the Pro models.
Perhaps I'll pick up a 15 Pro Max in the next week or so, after I've given it 
some thought.

I did, however, purchase a set of wired Ear Pods with the USBC
connector and the USBC to Lightning adaptor so that I can continue to
use my already purchased Lightning Ear Pods with USBC devices.  It's all about 
"baby steps"
(smile).

Your Brother in the Journey,

Mark



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Re: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and iPhone 15 Pro Max Running iOS 17.

[Jenny Bomareto]

That’s one of the reasons I don’t update the iOS  right away. And why I still 
have my iPhone 8 and Matt’s iPhone second GEN that came out in 2020 because all 
of these faulty things going on.  Plus, why taking pay out money for a new 
phone when the ones work just fine that we have.

Thanks for reading regarding this matter.
Jenny Bomareto

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 23, 2023, at 2:13 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> The tones have gone to hell in a hand basket.  I hope everyone is writing 
> Apple Accessibility about this.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
> Frost
> Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2023 11:09 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and iPhone 
> 15 Pro Max Running iOS 17.
> 
> Hi Mark and all,
> 
> Sadly my experience with the new iPhone 15 Pr is manifesting the annoying 
> drag and drop bug wherein when attempting to place apps before or after 
> others folders are inadvertently created against the user's will. It is 
> really irritating and this is on an iPhone 15 Pr which was set up as new so 
> there's no corruption potentially from having restored from a backup.
> 
> I'm also still not receiving sounders for in coming email even though all is 
> set properly. But other than those all seems well at this early hour.
> 
> And I agree the 15's do feel lighter than those that had come before them.
> 
> Take good care,
> 
> Robin
> 
> 
>> On 9/23/2023 8:56 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I first sent this message to the list, yesterday, Friday, at around 
>> 12-noon, local time but the mailing list servers were down.
>> 
>> So, I am posting this again, now.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> Original Message Posted on Friday, September 22, 2023:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> Well, I spent 3 hours in the Apple Store this morning with both a 15 
>> Plus and a 15 Pro Max running iOS 17.
>> 
>> As for the physical devices?  They definitely weigh less than the 14 series.
>> 
>> I am happy to report that I could not reproduce any of the VoiceOver 
>> problems discussed on the list, of late.
>> 
>> For example, the single-finger, double-tap problem simply does not 
>> exist on the 15 models I tested.
>> 
>> I had a friend of mine, the executive manager of the store, download a 
>> few third-party apps such as Amazon, Libby, and Yelp.  To my delight, 
>> VoiceOver functioned just as expected.
>> 
>> Of course, I was not able to test VoiceOver functionality with my 
>> personal primary third-party app;  so in no way am I suggesting that 
>> my testing was definitive or comprehensive.
>> 
>> However, I can say that my first experience with iOS 17 was a good one.
>> 
>> I was delighted to discover that while there were hundreds of preorder 
>> customers waiting in-line, outside the location, the store had plenty 
>> of iPhone 15 models, in all four major categories, ready to be 
>> purchase by those of us who did not preorder.
>> 
>> I wasn't planning on buying a 15 but I have to admit that I really, 
>> really like that new action button, featured on the Pro models.  
>> Perhaps I'll pick up a 15 Pro Max in the next week or so, after I've given 
>> it some thought.
>> 
>> I did, however, purchase a set of wired Ear Pods with the USBC 
>> connector and the USBC to Lightning adaptor so that I can continue to 
>> use my already purchased Lightning Ear Pods with USBC devices.  It's all 
>> about "baby steps"
>> (smile).
>> 
>> Your Brother in the Journey,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
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RE: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and iPhone 15 Pro Max Running iOS 17.

[Richard Turner]

The tones have gone to hell in a hand basket.  I hope everyone is writing Apple 
Accessibility about this.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2023 11:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and iPhone 
15 Pro Max Running iOS 17.

Hi Mark and all,

Sadly my experience with the new iPhone 15 Pr is manifesting the annoying drag 
and drop bug wherein when attempting to place apps before or after others 
folders are inadvertently created against the user's will. It is really 
irritating and this is on an iPhone 15 Pr which was set up as new so there's no 
corruption potentially from having restored from a backup.

I'm also still not receiving sounders for in coming email even though all is 
set properly. But other than those all seems well at this early hour.

And I agree the 15's do feel lighter than those that had come before them.

Take good care,

Robin


On 9/23/2023 8:56 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I first sent this message to the list, yesterday, Friday, at around 
> 12-noon, local time but the mailing list servers were down.
>
> So, I am posting this again, now.
>
> Mark
>
> Original Message Posted on Friday, September 22, 2023:
>
> Hello All,
>
> Well, I spent 3 hours in the Apple Store this morning with both a 15 
> Plus and a 15 Pro Max running iOS 17.
>
> As for the physical devices?  They definitely weigh less than the 14 series.
>
> I am happy to report that I could not reproduce any of the VoiceOver 
> problems discussed on the list, of late.
>
> For example, the single-finger, double-tap problem simply does not 
> exist on the 15 models I tested.
>
> I had a friend of mine, the executive manager of the store, download a 
> few third-party apps such as Amazon, Libby, and Yelp.  To my delight, 
> VoiceOver functioned just as expected.
>
> Of course, I was not able to test VoiceOver functionality with my 
> personal primary third-party app;  so in no way am I suggesting that 
> my testing was definitive or comprehensive.
>
> However, I can say that my first experience with iOS 17 was a good one.
>
> I was delighted to discover that while there were hundreds of preorder 
> customers waiting in-line, outside the location, the store had plenty 
> of iPhone 15 models, in all four major categories, ready to be 
> purchase by those of us who did not preorder.
>
> I wasn't planning on buying a 15 but I have to admit that I really, 
> really like that new action button, featured on the Pro models.  
> Perhaps I'll pick up a 15 Pro Max in the next week or so, after I've given it 
> some thought.
>
> I did, however, purchase a set of wired Ear Pods with the USBC 
> connector and the USBC to Lightning adaptor so that I can continue to 
> use my already purchased Lightning Ear Pods with USBC devices.  It's all 
> about "baby steps"
> (smile).
>
> Your Brother in the Journey,
>
> Mark
>
>

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Re: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and iPhone 15 Pro Max Running iOS 17.

[Robin Frost]

Hi Mark and all,

Sadly my experience with the new iPhone 15 Pr is manifesting the 
annoying drag and drop bug wherein when attempting to place apps before 
or after others folders are inadvertently created against the user's 
will. It is really irritating and this is on an iPhone 15 Pr which was 
set up as new so there's no corruption potentially from having restored 
from a backup.


I'm also still not receiving sounders for in coming email even though 
all is set properly. But other than those all seems well at this early hour.


And I agree the 15's do feel lighter than those that had come before them.

Take good care,

Robin


On 9/23/2023 8:56 AM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello All,

I first sent this message to the list, yesterday, Friday, at around 12-noon,
local time but the mailing list servers were down.

So, I am posting this again, now.

Mark

Original Message Posted on Friday, September 22, 2023:

Hello All,

Well, I spent 3 hours in the Apple Store this morning with both a 15 Plus
and a 15 Pro Max running iOS 17.

As for the physical devices?  They definitely weigh less than the 14 series.

I am happy to report that I could not reproduce any of the VoiceOver
problems discussed on the list, of late.

For example, the single-finger, double-tap problem simply does not exist on
the 15 models I tested.

I had a friend of mine, the executive manager of the store, download a few
third-party apps such as Amazon, Libby, and Yelp.  To my delight, VoiceOver
functioned just as expected.

Of course, I was not able to test VoiceOver functionality with my personal
primary third-party app;  so in no way am I suggesting that my testing was
definitive or comprehensive.

However, I can say that my first experience with iOS 17 was a good one.

I was delighted to discover that while there were hundreds of preorder
customers waiting in-line, outside the location, the store had plenty of
iPhone 15 models, in all four major categories, ready to be purchase by
those of us who did not preorder.

I wasn't planning on buying a 15 but I have to admit that I really, really
like that new action button, featured on the Pro models.  Perhaps I'll pick
up a 15 Pro Max in the next week or so, after I've given it some thought.

I did, however, purchase a set of wired Ear Pods with the USBC connector and
the USBC to Lightning adaptor so that I can continue to use my already
purchased Lightning Ear Pods with USBC devices.  It's all about "baby steps"
(smile).

Your Brother in the Journey,

Mark




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RE: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and iPhone 15 Pro Max Running iOS 17.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You may as well go and get one since your "perhaps I'll get a 15 Pro Max" means 
"I may not want to say it now, but I'll definitely get one in a couple of days"

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2023 5:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and iPhone 15 
Pro Max Running iOS 17.

Hello All, 

I first sent this message to the list, yesterday, Friday, at around 12-noon, 
local time but the mailing list servers were down.

So, I am posting this again, now.

Mark

Original Message Posted on Friday, September 22, 2023:

Hello All,

Well, I spent 3 hours in the Apple Store this morning with both a 15 Plus and a 
15 Pro Max running iOS 17.

As for the physical devices?  They definitely weigh less than the 14 series.

I am happy to report that I could not reproduce any of the VoiceOver problems 
discussed on the list, of late.

For example, the single-finger, double-tap problem simply does not exist on the 
15 models I tested.

I had a friend of mine, the executive manager of the store, download a few 
third-party apps such as Amazon, Libby, and Yelp.  To my delight, VoiceOver 
functioned just as expected.

Of course, I was not able to test VoiceOver functionality with my personal 
primary third-party app;  so in no way am I suggesting that my testing was 
definitive or comprehensive.

However, I can say that my first experience with iOS 17 was a good one.

I was delighted to discover that while there were hundreds of preorder 
customers waiting in-line, outside the location, the store had plenty of iPhone 
15 models, in all four major categories, ready to be purchase by those of us 
who did not preorder.

I wasn't planning on buying a 15 but I have to admit that I really, really like 
that new action button, featured on the Pro models.  Perhaps I'll pick up a 15 
Pro Max in the next week or so, after I've given it some thought.

I did, however, purchase a set of wired Ear Pods with the USBC connector and 
the USBC to Lightning adaptor so that I can continue to use my already 
purchased Lightning Ear Pods with USBC devices.  It's all about "baby steps"
(smile).

Your Brother in the Journey,

Mark


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Re: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and iPhone 15 Pro Max Running iOS 17.

[Jennie Facer]

You need to hold down the action button, but it can be configured to do a few 
different things.

Jenn
Jennie Facer

> On Sep 23, 2023, at 7:47 AM, Brandon Misch  wrote:
> 
> how is the action button when it comes to accessibility features? do
> you have to hold down the button or is it a triple tap like the side
> button.
> 
> On 9/23/23, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> I first sent this message to the list, yesterday, Friday, at around
>> 12-noon,
>> local time but the mailing list servers were down.
>> 
>> So, I am posting this again, now.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> Original Message Posted on Friday, September 22, 2023:
>> 
>> Hello All,
>> 
>> Well, I spent 3 hours in the Apple Store this morning with both a 15 Plus
>> and a 15 Pro Max running iOS 17.
>> 
>> As for the physical devices?  They definitely weigh less than the 14
>> series.
>> 
>> I am happy to report that I could not reproduce any of the VoiceOver
>> problems discussed on the list, of late.
>> 
>> For example, the single-finger, double-tap problem simply does not exist on
>> the 15 models I tested.
>> 
>> I had a friend of mine, the executive manager of the store, download a few
>> third-party apps such as Amazon, Libby, and Yelp.  To my delight, VoiceOver
>> functioned just as expected.
>> 
>> Of course, I was not able to test VoiceOver functionality with my personal
>> primary third-party app;  so in no way am I suggesting that my testing was
>> definitive or comprehensive.
>> 
>> However, I can say that my first experience with iOS 17 was a good one.
>> 
>> I was delighted to discover that while there were hundreds of preorder
>> customers waiting in-line, outside the location, the store had plenty of
>> iPhone 15 models, in all four major categories, ready to be purchase by
>> those of us who did not preorder.
>> 
>> I wasn't planning on buying a 15 but I have to admit that I really, really
>> like that new action button, featured on the Pro models.  Perhaps I'll pick
>> up a 15 Pro Max in the next week or so, after I've given it some thought.
>> 
>> I did, however, purchase a set of wired Ear Pods with the USBC connector
>> and
>> the USBC to Lightning adaptor so that I can continue to use my already
>> purchased Lightning Ear Pods with USBC devices.  It's all about "baby
>> steps"
>> (smile).
>> 
>> Your Brother in the Journey,
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
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Re: Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and iPhone 15 Pro Max Running iOS 17.

[Brandon Misch]

how is the action button when it comes to accessibility features? do
you have to hold down the button or is it a triple tap like the side
button.

On 9/23/23, M. Taylor  wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I first sent this message to the list, yesterday, Friday, at around
> 12-noon,
> local time but the mailing list servers were down.
>
> So, I am posting this again, now.
>
> Mark
>
> Original Message Posted on Friday, September 22, 2023:
>
> Hello All,
>
> Well, I spent 3 hours in the Apple Store this morning with both a 15 Plus
> and a 15 Pro Max running iOS 17.
>
> As for the physical devices?  They definitely weigh less than the 14
> series.
>
> I am happy to report that I could not reproduce any of the VoiceOver
> problems discussed on the list, of late.
>
> For example, the single-finger, double-tap problem simply does not exist on
> the 15 models I tested.
>
> I had a friend of mine, the executive manager of the store, download a few
> third-party apps such as Amazon, Libby, and Yelp.  To my delight, VoiceOver
> functioned just as expected.
>
> Of course, I was not able to test VoiceOver functionality with my personal
> primary third-party app;  so in no way am I suggesting that my testing was
> definitive or comprehensive.
>
> However, I can say that my first experience with iOS 17 was a good one.
>
> I was delighted to discover that while there were hundreds of preorder
> customers waiting in-line, outside the location, the store had plenty of
> iPhone 15 models, in all four major categories, ready to be purchase by
> those of us who did not preorder.
>
> I wasn't planning on buying a 15 but I have to admit that I really, really
> like that new action button, featured on the Pro models.  Perhaps I'll pick
> up a 15 Pro Max in the next week or so, after I've given it some thought.
>
> I did, however, purchase a set of wired Ear Pods with the USBC connector
> and
> the USBC to Lightning adaptor so that I can continue to use my already
> purchased Lightning Ear Pods with USBC devices.  It's all about "baby
> steps"
> (smile).
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> Your Brother in the Journey,
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> Mark
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Mark's First VoiceOver Experience with iPhone 15 Plus and iPhone 15 Pro Max Running iOS 17.

[M. Taylor]

Hello All, 

I first sent this message to the list, yesterday, Friday, at around 12-noon,
local time but the mailing list servers were down.

So, I am posting this again, now.

Mark

Original Message Posted on Friday, September 22, 2023:

Hello All,

Well, I spent 3 hours in the Apple Store this morning with both a 15 Plus
and a 15 Pro Max running iOS 17.

As for the physical devices?  They definitely weigh less than the 14 series.

I am happy to report that I could not reproduce any of the VoiceOver
problems discussed on the list, of late.

For example, the single-finger, double-tap problem simply does not exist on
the 15 models I tested.

I had a friend of mine, the executive manager of the store, download a few
third-party apps such as Amazon, Libby, and Yelp.  To my delight, VoiceOver
functioned just as expected.

Of course, I was not able to test VoiceOver functionality with my personal
primary third-party app;  so in no way am I suggesting that my testing was
definitive or comprehensive.

However, I can say that my first experience with iOS 17 was a good one.

I was delighted to discover that while there were hundreds of preorder
customers waiting in-line, outside the location, the store had plenty of
iPhone 15 models, in all four major categories, ready to be purchase by
those of us who did not preorder.

I wasn't planning on buying a 15 but I have to admit that I really, really
like that new action button, featured on the Pro models.  Perhaps I'll pick
up a 15 Pro Max in the next week or so, after I've given it some thought.

I did, however, purchase a set of wired Ear Pods with the USBC connector and
the USBC to Lightning adaptor so that I can continue to use my already
purchased Lightning Ear Pods with USBC devices.  It's all about "baby steps"
(smile).

Your Brother in the Journey,

Mark


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RE: Ordering my iPhone 15 Pro

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Unfortunately nobody can tell you, but if the submit order button is not 
available you must not have provided at least one piece of information.
I just ordered the Apple Watch Ultra and I forgot to check the "No" when it 
asked if I had a trade-in device. This was of course directly through Apple, 
but I assume the process through a carrier is similar where you have to select 
which phone you want, the finish, capacity, whether you want to buy Apple Care 
or maybe the carrier has their own insurance option etc.


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Outman
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2023 7:43 AM
To: V IPhone List 
Subject: Ordering my iPhone 15 Pro

Hi, list. I am trying to order my iPhone 15 Pro through the AT& T app and can’t 
get the order to submit. I think I am getting all the details correct but the 
submit order stays dimmed. 
What am I missing? 
Using my 8 Plus to submit the order. 
Bill Outman 

Sent from my iPhone

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Ordering my iPhone 15 Pro

[William Outman]

Hi, list. I am trying to order my iPhone 15 Pro through the AT& T app and can’t 
get the order to submit. I think I am getting all the details correct but the 
submit order stays dimmed. 
What am I missing? 
Using my 8 Plus to submit the order. 
Bill Outman 

Sent from my iPhone

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