RE: Passcode & Face ID Question

[Carolyn]

Same here, Joshua. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson
Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 2:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Passcode & Face ID Question

When I set up face ID on my iPhone 13 pro max, it was quite easy.
Voice over was great at telling me if the phone was to close to my face or not 
or to turn my head.

On 3/3/23, Carla  wrote:
> I’ve got it fixed thanks.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 11:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Passcode & Face ID Question
>
> You might want to explain a bit more how exactly you use it, e.g. how 
> far away do you hold your phone etc. When you set up Face Id you said 
> somebody helped you, did you have Voiceover turned on when you set 
> itup or did a sighted person do it without Voiceover? If so you should 
> probably first turn off the attention aware feature. Apart from that 
> it would probably be easier if a sighted person can help you trouble 
> shoot since it is possible you just hold the phone too close or maybe 
> you hold it on a bit of an angle and the camera doesn't see your face 
> properly.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of Carla
> Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 8:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Passcode & Face ID Question
>
> I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday.  I went to this phone from the SE3.  
> I can do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and 
> closing apps, etc.  The only thing I cannot do is have the phone 
> accept my facial ID which I had someone help me set up.  Does anyone 
> have any suggestions to make this work because I do not want to go 
> back to the SE3.  I’m even learning to use the power button rather 
> than using a home button.  I love the speakers and the stereo sound 
> when playing music.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Carla
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Re: Passcode & Face ID Question

[Joshua Hendrickson]

When I set up face ID on my iPhone 13 pro max, it was quite easy.
Voice over was great at telling me if the phone was to close to my
face or not or to turn my head.

On 3/3/23, Carla  wrote:
> I’ve got it fixed thanks.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 11:26 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Passcode & Face ID Question
>
> You might want to explain a bit more how exactly you use it, e.g. how far
> away do you hold your phone etc. When you set up Face Id you said somebody
> helped you, did you have Voiceover turned on when you set itup or did a
> sighted person do it without Voiceover? If so you should probably first turn
> off the attention aware feature. Apart from that it would probably be easier
> if a sighted person can help you trouble shoot since it is possible you just
> hold the phone too close or maybe you hold it on a bit of an angle and the
> camera doesn't see your face properly.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
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> Carla
> Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 8:16 PM
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> Subject: Passcode & Face ID Question
>
> I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday.  I went to this phone from the SE3.  I
> can do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and closing
> apps, etc.  The only thing I cannot do is have the phone accept my facial ID
> which I had someone help me set up.  Does anyone have any suggestions to
> make this work because I do not want to go back to the SE3.  I’m even
> learning to use the power button rather than using a home button.  I love
> the speakers and the stereo sound when playing music.  Any help would be
> greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Carla
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RE: Passcode & Face ID Question

[Carla]

I’ve got it fixed thanks.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 11:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Passcode & Face ID Question
 
You might want to explain a bit more how exactly you use it, e.g. how far away 
do you hold your phone etc. When you set up Face Id you said somebody helped 
you, did you have Voiceover turned on when you set itup or did a sighted person 
do it without Voiceover? If so you should probably first turn off the attention 
aware feature. Apart from that it would probably be easier if a sighted person 
can help you trouble shoot since it is possible you just hold the phone too 
close or maybe you hold it on a bit of an angle and the camera doesn't see your 
face properly.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Carla
Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 8:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Passcode & Face ID Question
 
I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday.  I went to this phone from the SE3.  I can 
do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and closing apps, etc.  
The only thing I cannot do is have the phone accept my facial ID which I had 
someone help me set up.  Does anyone have any suggestions to make this work 
because I do not want to go back to the SE3.  I’m even learning to use the 
power button rather than using a home button.  I love the speakers and the 
stereo sound when playing music.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Carla
 
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RE: Passcode & Face ID Question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Keith, if Voiceover is on when you set up Face Id this is automatically turned 
off.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Keith 
Kramlinger
Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 10:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Passcode & Face ID Question

hi Carla,
You may need to go into the Face ID and passcode settings and turn off the 
require a tension feature. This feature, when turned off, does not require your 
eyesight to be directed at the phone. Most people, I believe, with visual 
difficulties turn this off., I hope this helps.
Best, Keith



On Mar 2, 2023, at 10:15 PM, Carla  wrote:

I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday.  I went to this phone from the SE3.  I can 
do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and closing apps, etc.  
The only thing I cannot do is have the phone accept my facial ID which I had 
someone help me set up.  Does anyone have any suggestions to make this work 
because I do not want to go back to the SE3.  I’m even learning to use the 
power button rather than using a home button.  I love the speakers and the 
stereo sound when playing music.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Carla

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RE: Passcode & Face ID Question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You might want to explain a bit more how exactly you use it, e.g. how far away 
do you hold your phone etc. When you set up Face Id you said somebody helped 
you, did you have Voiceover turned on when you set itup or did a sighted person 
do it without Voiceover? If so you should probably first turn off the attention 
aware feature. Apart from that it would probably be easier if a sighted person 
can help you trouble shoot since it is possible you just hold the phone too 
close or maybe you hold it on a bit of an angle and the camera doesn't see your 
face properly.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carla
Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 8:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Passcode & Face ID Question

I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday.  I went to this phone from the SE3.  I can 
do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and closing apps, etc.  
The only thing I cannot do is have the phone accept my facial ID which I had 
someone help me set up.  Does anyone have any suggestions to make this work 
because I do not want to go back to the SE3.  I’m even learning to use the 
power button rather than using a home button.  I love the speakers and the 
stereo sound when playing music.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Carla

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RE: Passcode & Face ID Question

[Carla]

Thank you.  I will check for that.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Carolyn
Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 7:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Passcode & Face ID Question

I am totally blind and have set up facial ID on an 11 and a 14 Pro. I had no 
problems. Just extend your arm about a foot from your face. Hold your phone to 
the level of it being centered with your face. You will be instructed turn face 
to right, left, up down, I can't remember, but just keep doing what it says to 
do, and it will get your face in there. Turn off Attention Mode if it is on, 
which is located in the Voiceover settings. 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carla
Sent: Thursday, March 2, 2023 11:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Passcode & Face ID Question

I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday.  I went to this phone from the SE3.  I can 
do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and closing apps, etc.  
The only thing I cannot do is have the phone accept my facial ID which I had 
someone help me set up.  Does anyone have any suggestions to make this work 
because I do not want to go back to the SE3.  I’m even learning to use the 
power button rather than using a home button.  I love the speakers and the 
stereo sound when playing music.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Carla
 
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RE: Passcode & Face ID Question

[Carolyn]

I am totally blind and have set up facial ID on an 11 and a 14 Pro. I had no 
problems. Just extend your arm about a foot from your face. Hold your phone to 
the level of it being centered with your face. You will be instructed turn face 
to right, left, up down, I can't remember, but just keep doing what it says to 
do, and it will get your face in there. Turn off Attention Mode if it is on, 
which is located in the Voiceover settings. 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Passcode & Face ID Question

I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday.  I went to this phone from the SE3.  I can 
do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and closing apps, etc.  
The only thing I cannot do is have the phone accept my facial ID which I had 
someone help me set up.  Does anyone have any suggestions to make this work 
because I do not want to go back to the SE3.  I’m even learning to use the 
power button rather than using a home button.  I love the speakers and the 
stereo sound when playing music.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Carla
 
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RE: Passcode & Face ID Question

[Carla]

I think I'm getting it.  I like my fingerprint better but I love this phone!

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Carla.  It will take a bit of practice to get face ID wright.  It isn't 
something you can learn in 15 or 20 minutes.  I don't even think much about 
face ID THESE days.  Good luck.

On 3/3/23, Keith Kramlinger  wrote:
> hi Carla,
> You may need to go into the Face ID and passcode settings and turn off 
> the require a tension feature. This feature, when turned off, does not 
> require your eyesight to be directed at the phone. Most people, I 
> believe, with visual difficulties turn this off., I hope this helps.
> Best, Keith
>
>
> On Mar 2, 2023, at 10:15 PM, Carla  wrote:
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> 
> I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday.  I went to this phone from the SE3.  
> I can do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and 
> closing apps, etc.  The only thing I cannot do is have the phone 
> accept my facial ID which I had someone help me set up.  Does anyone 
> have any suggestions to make this work because I do not want to go 
> back to the SE3.  I’m even learning to use the power button rather 
> than using a home button.  I love the speakers and the stereo sound 
> when playing music.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Carla
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RE: Passcode & Face ID Question

[Star Gazer]

Yes, with 
attention aware, you have to make eye contact with the screen v. just look in 
the direction. Apple should probably rephrase this feature to mean eye contact 
v. attention since they are different things. 

 

 

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Kramlinger
Sent: Friday, March 3, 2023 1:30 AM
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hi Carla,

You may need to go into the Face ID and passcode settings and turn off the 
require a tension feature. This feature, when turned off, does not require your 
eyesight to be directed at the phone. Most people, I believe, with visual 
difficulties turn this off., I hope this helps.

Best, Keith

 





On Mar 2, 2023, at 10:15 PM, Carla mailto:carlarae5...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday.  I went to this phone from the SE3.  I can 
do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and closing apps, etc.  
The only thing I cannot do is have the phone accept my facial ID which I had 
someone help me set up.  Does anyone have any suggestions to make this work 
because I do not want to go back to the SE3.  I’m even learning to use the 
power button rather than using a home button.  I love the speakers and the 
stereo sound when playing music.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Carla

 

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Re: Passcode & Face ID Question

[Kathy Blackburn]

Perhaps Siri made a dictation error. The correct name of the feature referenced below should be "require attention."
Kathy Blackburn
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On Mar 3, 2023 12:29 AM, Keith Kramlinger  wrote:

hi Carla,
You may need to go into the Face ID and passcode settings and turn off the require a tension feature. This feature, when turned off, does not require your eyesight to be directed at the phone. Most people, I believe, with visual difficulties
 turn this off., I hope this helps.
Best, Keith



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I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday. 
I went to this phone from the SE3.  
I can do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and closing apps, etc. 
The only thing I cannot do is have the phone accept my facial ID which I had someone help me set up. 
Does anyone have any suggestions to make this work because I do not want to go back to the SE3. 
I’m even learning to use the power button rather than using a home button. 
I love the speakers and the stereo sound when playing music. 
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Carla
 


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Re: Passcode & Face ID Question

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Carla.  It will take a bit of practice to get face ID wright.  It
isn't something you can learn in 15 or 20 minutes.  I don't even think
much about face ID THESE days.  Good luck.

On 3/3/23, Keith Kramlinger  wrote:
> hi Carla,
> You may need to go into the Face ID and passcode settings and turn off the
> require a tension feature. This feature, when turned off, does not require
> your eyesight to be directed at the phone. Most people, I believe, with
> visual difficulties turn this off., I hope this helps.
> Best, Keith
>
>
> On Mar 2, 2023, at 10:15 PM, Carla  wrote:
>
> 
> I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday.  I went to this phone from the SE3.  I
> can do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and closing
> apps, etc.  The only thing I cannot do is have the phone accept my facial ID
> which I had someone help me set up.  Does anyone have any suggestions to
> make this work because I do not want to go back to the SE3.  I’m even
> learning to use the power button rather than using a home button.  I love
> the speakers and the stereo sound when playing music.  Any help would be
> greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Carla
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Re: Passcode & Face ID Question

[Keith Kramlinger]

hi Carla,
You may need to go into the Face ID and passcode settings and turn off the 
require a tension feature. This feature, when turned off, does not require your 
eyesight to be directed at the phone. Most people, I believe, with visual 
difficulties turn this off., I hope this helps.
Best, Keith


On Mar 2, 2023, at 10:15 PM, Carla  wrote:


I just got my iPhone 14 yesterday.  I went to this phone from the SE3.  I can 
do all of the gestures such as finding the app switcher and closing apps, etc.  
The only thing I cannot do is have the phone accept my facial ID which I had 
someone help me set up.  Does anyone have any suggestions to make this work 
because I do not want to go back to the SE3.  I’m even learning to use the 
power button rather than using a home button.  I love the speakers and the 
stereo sound when playing music.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Carla


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Re: passcode question

[Vicki W.]

Hi,

Just in case anyone ever needs to use the regular Apple support, He called 
yesterday, and after 20 tries to set up his ID and over 90 minutes on the 
phone, Apple support fixed the problem. They were very patient. He ended up 
having to set up his ID on the computer and then adding it to the phone. They 
never did figure out why he had the problem, but they fixed the issue.

Vicki

  - Original Message - 
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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 9:20 PM
  Subject: Re: passcode question


  Safari does not need a passcode, though if your phone has a passcode, you 
cannot launch any app other than camera without unlocking your phone. 
  Vicki,
  Your friend needs to call Apple to get a clear answer.







  Richard
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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


On Jun 18, 2020, at 5:22 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:


I have never had a passcode and use Safari just fine.


- Original Message - From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net>
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Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 5:13 PM
Subject: RE: passcode question


But, Richard, can you get into Safari without a passcode?

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Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:30 PM
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Subject: Re: passcode question

First, I think you meant 4 minutes, not 4 hours.
If you have a phone with a home button, setup touch ID, and it will 
primarily ask for the passcode after you reboot it, but if you just lock it and 
come back later, the finger print will unlock it.
If you have a phone with no home button, setup Face ID.
Same thing, if you don't reboot the phone, you should be able to unlock it 
with the face ID.






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On Jun 18, 2020, at 3:24 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:




Hi,

If you have your phone set to never lock, will you have to type in your 
passcode whenever you unlock it?

Right now the lock screen is set to lock every 4 hours, and the passcode 
needs to be written each time to unlock it. How can I keep from having to type 
it in so often>

Vicki




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Re: passcode question

[Richard Turner]

Safari does not need a passcode, though if your phone has a passcode, you 
cannot launch any app other than camera without unlocking your phone.
Vicki,
Your friend needs to call Apple to get a clear answer.




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On Jun 18, 2020, at 5:22 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:

I have never had a passcode and use Safari just fine.


- Original Message - From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net>
To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 5:13 PM
Subject: RE: passcode question


But, Richard, can you get into Safari without a passcode?

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Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: passcode question

First, I think you meant 4 minutes, not 4 hours.
If you have a phone with a home button, setup touch ID, and it will primarily 
ask for the passcode after you reboot it, but if you just lock it and come back 
later, the finger print will unlock it.
If you have a phone with no home button, setup Face ID.
Same thing, if you don't reboot the phone, you should be able to unlock it with 
the face ID.






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among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


On Jun 18, 2020, at 3:24 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:




Hi,

If you have your phone set to never lock, will you have to type in your 
passcode whenever you unlock it?

Right now the lock screen is set to lock every 4 hours, and the passcode needs 
to be written each time to unlock it. How can I keep from having to type it in 
so often>

Vicki




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Re: passcode question

[Vicki W.]

I have never had a passcode and use Safari just fine.


- Original Message - 
From: "Carolyn" <4carol...@windstream.net>

To: 
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 5:13 PM
Subject: RE: passcode question


But, Richard, can you get into Safari without a passcode?

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Of Richard Turner

Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: passcode question

First, I think you meant 4 minutes, not 4 hours.
If you have a phone with a home button, setup touch ID, and it will 
primarily ask for the passcode after you reboot it, but if you just lock it 
and come back later, the finger print will unlock it.

If you have a phone with no home button, setup Face ID.
Same thing, if you don't reboot the phone, you should be able to unlock it 
with the face ID.







Richard
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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient 
hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not 
granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward 
Herbert



On Jun 18, 2020, at 3:24 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:




Hi,

If you have your phone set to never lock, will you have to type in your 
passcode whenever you unlock it?


Right now the lock screen is set to lock every 4 hours, and the passcode 
needs to be written each time to unlock it. How can I keep from having to 
type it in so often>


Vicki




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RE: passcode question

[Carolyn]

But, Richard, can you get into Safari without a passcode? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: passcode question

First, I think you meant 4 minutes, not 4 hours. 
If you have a phone with a home button, setup touch ID, and it will primarily 
ask for the passcode after you reboot it, but if you just lock it and come back 
later, the finger print will unlock it.
If you have a phone with no home button, setup Face ID.
Same thing, if you don't reboot the phone, you should be able to unlock it with 
the face ID.






Richard
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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert


On Jun 18, 2020, at 3:24 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:



 
Hi,
 
If you have your phone set to never lock, will you have to type in your 
passcode whenever you unlock it?
 
Right now the lock screen is set to lock every 4 hours, and the 
passcode needs to be written each time to unlock it. How can I keep from having 
to type it in so often>
 
Vicki
 



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RE: passcode question

[Carolyn]

You can't get into Sarafi without a passcode. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Vicki W.
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 6:24 PM
To: IPhone 
Subject: passcode question

Hi,
 
If you have your phone set to never lock, will you have to type in your 
passcode whenever you unlock it?
 
Right now the lock screen is set to lock every 4 hours, and the passcode needs 
to be written each time to unlock it. How can I keep from having to type it in 
so often>
 
Vicki
 

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RE: passcode question

[Simon A Fogarty]

Yes it can,

Have the owner of the phone look under settings and then display and brightness.
They should find the instructions there to

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Friday, 19 June 2020 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: passcode question

Let me start over. My mistake.

The phone is set to never lock. Passcode is set to use after 4 hours. So, if 
the phone is locked manually, and it stays locked more than four hours, the 
passcode is needed. Can it be changed to not need it if the phone is locked 
without turning it off?

It's not my phone so I'm probably not explaining it very well.

Vicki

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: passcode question

First, I think you meant 4 minutes, not 4 hours.
If you have a phone with a home button, setup touch ID, and it will primarily 
ask for the passcode after you reboot it, but if you just lock it and come back 
later, the finger print will unlock it.
If you have a phone with no home button, setup Face ID.
Same thing, if you don't reboot the phone, you should be able to unlock it with 
the face ID.



Richard
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Hi,

If you have your phone set to never lock, will you have to type in your 
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Right now the lock screen is set to lock every 4 hours, and the passcode needs 
to be written each time to unlock it. How can I keep from having to type it in 
so often>

Vicki

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RE: passcode question

[Jennie Facer]

Hi Vicki,

 

The way you can prevent from unlocking your phone so much is to create either a 
fingerprint or face ID whichever your phone has. The only time I have to enter 
my passcode is when I first restart my phone.

 

Hope this helps,

 

Jenn

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicki W.
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 4:24 PM
To: IPhone 
Subject: passcode question

 

Hi,

 

If you have your phone set to never lock, will you have to type in your 
passcode whenever you unlock it?

 

Right now the lock screen is set to lock every 4 hours, and the passcode needs 
to be written each time to unlock it. How can I keep from having to type it in 
so often>

 

Vicki

 

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Re: passcode question

[Vicki W.]

Let me start over. My mistake.

The phone is set to never lock. Passcode is set to use after 4 hours. So, if 
the phone is locked manually, and it stays locked more than four hours, the 
passcode is needed. Can it be changed to not need it if the phone is locked 
without turning it off?

It's not my phone so I'm probably not explaining it very well.

Vicki

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2020 3:29 PM
  Subject: Re: passcode question


  First, I think you meant 4 minutes, not 4 hours. 
  If you have a phone with a home button, setup touch ID, and it will primarily 
ask for the passcode after you reboot it, but if you just lock it and come back 
later, the finger print will unlock it.
  If you have a phone with no home button, setup Face ID.
  Same thing, if you don't reboot the phone, you should be able to unlock it 
with the face ID.







  Richard
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On Jun 18, 2020, at 3:24 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:


 
Hi,

If you have your phone set to never lock, will you have to type in your 
passcode whenever you unlock it?

Right now the lock screen is set to lock every 4 hours, and the passcode 
needs to be written each time to unlock it. How can I keep from having to type 
it in so often>

Vicki


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Re: passcode question

[Richard Turner]

First, I think you meant 4 minutes, not 4 hours.
If you have a phone with a home button, setup touch ID, and it will primarily 
ask for the passcode after you reboot it, but if you just lock it and come back 
later, the finger print will unlock it.
If you have a phone with no home button, setup Face ID.
Same thing, if you don't reboot the phone, you should be able to unlock it with 
the face ID.




Richard
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himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Jun 18, 2020, at 3:24 PM, Vicki W.  wrote:


Hi,

If you have your phone set to never lock, will you have to type in your 
passcode whenever you unlock it?

Right now the lock screen is set to lock every 4 hours, and the passcode needs 
to be written each time to unlock it. How can I keep from having to type it in 
so often>

Vicki


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Re: Passcode issues

[Marie N.]

Actually, I think my biggest problem is a lack of patience. The face ID is 
getting better for me. Part of it is learning how to hold the phone so that it 
is really directed at your face and yes, I too learned that often, just doing 
the Home gesture causes the feature to work. I really do like the phone over 
all and it took practice to get the gestures so I am sure the face ID will be 
the same.
Marie


From: janet gross 
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2018 6:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Passcode issues

Hi Marie, 

I’m sorry to hear about your problems with the face id.  I had the same 
problem, and wow, can that be annoying!  It was actually driving me crazy!  Did 
you ever call Apple? If so, can I ask you what they told you? Have you tried 
going back to the home screen when the face id doesn’t work, and when it 
continuously asks for your passcode? I now find when it asks me for my pass 
code, and if I swipe up from the very bottom of the screen just a little until 
I feel the first vibration, and lift my finger, I can then try the face id 
option again, and the majority of the time it will unlock the phone.  I’ve also 
noticed if I hold my phone up to my face with my left hand, the phone will not 
unlock, but if I hold up the phone with my right hand, I have a much better 
chance of unlocking the phone.  Strange I know, but it is what it is!  Smile!  

Matter of fact, I also had a difficult time when I was setting up face id 
myself, I was setting up the face id feature holding the phone in my left hand, 
and VO kept telling me face id is not available on this device, so I thought ok 
I’m going to try this for the fourth time, and I used my right hand then, and 
sure enough, the face id feature was accepted.  Who knows, but I must not be 
holding the phone directly in front of my face when using my left hand.  Go 
figure.  Smile!  I would like to know how your phone is now working though.  

Janet 

 

Janet 

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie N.
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 11:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Passcode issues

 

It seems to recognize the fingerprint fairly consistently but even so, the 
constant need to use the finger print or the passcode is too demanding. I no 
longer ever take the 6S out of the house so I have turned the passcode off on 
that phone. But I recently got an IPhone X and if not in decent light, the face 
ID does not work and it seems that it requires a code or ID every time the 
screen locks and this is ridiculous. If no one has any ideas, I will call 
accessibility tomorrow and see what they might suggest.

Marie

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 9:00 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Passcode issues

 

Hello Marie,

 

I have not noticed that my phone asks me for a passcode more than before. Is it 
maybe that your fingerprint is not recognized?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie N.
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 8:55 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Passcode issues

 

In the past, as I remember it, you only needed to enter the passcode when 
powering up or after around 40 minutes of inactivity. Now it seems I have to 
enter the darn thing constantly. Is there any setting that will reduce the need 
to enter the code so often? In the passcode setting there is a section about 
when it is required and the one and only option is “immediately”. why is that 
the only selection and is there any way to change it?

Please help me with this before I lose my mind totally. LOL

Thanks,

Marie

 

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Re: Passcode issues

[Paul Mcgann]

marie,


there are issues that tech could drive nerves out of us.


i suggest for you to go to apple store near your home and ask technician 
to help you with face id. if it is getting too hard, the best thing ti 
do is to use passcode to enter four or six numbers. i wouldn't waste 
time struggling and frustrate myself out of it.



some people talked about face ids as they say about with/without false 
teeth, wigs, make-up, scratches/cuts, and others. sheesh! they come out 
with wild ideas why face ids are putting issues. some said they believe 
face ids are based of face mood.



sincerely,

rich



On 11/22/2018 9:35 PM, janet gross wrote:


Hi Marie,

I’m sorry to hear about your problems with the face id.  I had the 
same problem, and wow, can that be annoying!  It was actually driving 
me crazy!  Did you ever call Apple? If so, can I ask you what they 
told you? Have you tried going back to the home screen when the face 
id doesn’t work, and when it continuously asks for your passcode? I 
now find when it asks me for my pass code, and if I swipe up from the 
very bottom of the screen just a little until I feel the first 
vibration, and lift my finger, I can then try the face id option 
again, and the majority of the time it will unlock the phone.  I’ve 
also noticed if I hold my phone up to my face with my left hand, the 
phone will not unlock, but if I hold up the phone with my right hand, 
I have a much better chance of unlocking the phone. Strange I know, 
but it is what it is!  Smile!


Matter of fact, I also had a difficult time when I was setting up face 
id myself, I was setting up the face id feature holding the phone in 
my left hand, and VO kept telling me face id is not available on this 
device, so I thought ok I’m going to try this for the fourth time, and 
I used my right hand then, and sure enough, the face id feature was 
accepted.  Who knows, but I must not be holding the phone directly in 
front of my face when using my left hand.  Go figure.  Smile!  I would 
like to know how your phone is now working though.


Janet

Janet

*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On 
Behalf Of *Marie N.

*Sent:* Tuesday, November 20, 2018 11:24 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: Passcode issues

It seems to recognize the fingerprint fairly consistently but even so, 
the constant need to use the finger print or the passcode is too 
demanding. I no longer ever take the 6S out of the house so I have 
turned the passcode off on that phone. But I recently got an IPhone X 
and if not in decent light, the face ID does not work and it seems 
that it requires a code or ID every time the screen locks and this is 
ridiculous. If no one has any ideas, I will call accessibility 
tomorrow and see what they might suggest.


Marie

*From:*Sieghard Weitzel

*Sent:*Tuesday, November 20, 2018 9:00 PM

*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com

*Subject:*RE: Passcode issues

Hello Marie,

I have not noticed that my phone asks me for a passcode more than 
before. Is it maybe that your fingerprint is not recognized?


*From:*viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Marie N.

*Sent:* Tuesday, November 20, 2018 8:55 PM
*To:* VIPhone 
*Subject:* Passcode issues

In the past, as I remember it, you only needed to enter the passcode 
when powering up or after around 40 minutes of inactivity. Now it 
seems I have to enter the darn thing constantly. Is there any setting 
that will reduce the need to enter the code so often? In the passcode 
setting there is a section about when it is required and the one and 
only option is “immediately”. why is that the only selection and is 
there any way to change it?


Please help me with this before I lose my mind totally. LOL

Thanks,

Marie

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Re: Passcode issues

[SoonerAnnie]

My problem is that since the latest IOS update, my IPhone 8 often doesn't 
recognize my fingerprint and makes me enter my password, which is incredibly 
annoying! It used to be really reliable with the two fingerprints I set up, but 
now, I never know when it's going to work and when it isn't. A couple of days 
ago I deleted my fingerprints and re-entered them, but that hasn't helped much. 
Disappointing for sure. 


Ann 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 22, 2018, at 8:35 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi Marie,
> I’m sorry to hear about your problems with the face id.  I had the same 
> problem, and wow, can that be annoying!  It was actually driving me crazy!  
> Did you ever call Apple? If so, can I ask you what they told you? Have you 
> tried going back to the home screen when the face id doesn’t work, and when 
> it continuously asks for your passcode? I now find when it asks me for my 
> pass code, and if I swipe up from the very bottom of the screen just a little 
> until I feel the first vibration, and lift my finger, I can then try the face 
> id option again, and the majority of the time it will unlock the phone.  I’ve 
> also noticed if I hold my phone up to my face with my left hand, the phone 
> will not unlock, but if I hold up the phone with my right hand, I have a much 
> better chance of unlocking the phone.  Strange I know, but it is what it is!  
> Smile! 
> Matter of fact, I also had a difficult time when I was setting up face id 
> myself, I was setting up the face id feature holding the phone in my left 
> hand, and VO kept telling me face id is not available on this device, so I 
> thought ok I’m going to try this for the fourth time, and I used my right 
> hand then, and sure enough, the face id feature was accepted.  Who knows, but 
> I must not be holding the phone directly in front of my face when using my 
> left hand.  Go figure.   Smile!  I would like to know how your phone is now 
> working though. 
> Janet
>  
> Janet
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Marie N.
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 11:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Passcode issues
>  
> It seems to recognize the fingerprint fairly consistently but even so, the 
> constant need to use the finger print or the passcode is too demanding. I no 
> longer ever take the 6S out of the house so I have turned the passcode off on 
> that phone. But I recently got an IPhone X and if not in decent light, the 
> face ID does not work and it seems that it requires a code or ID every time 
> the screen locks and this is ridiculous. If no one has any ideas, I will call 
> accessibility tomorrow and see what they might suggest.
> Marie
>  
>  
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 9:00 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Passcode issues
>  
> Hello Marie,
>  
> I have not noticed that my phone asks me for a passcode more than before. Is 
> it maybe that your fingerprint is not recognized?
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie 
> N.
> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 8:55 PM
> To: VIPhone 
> Subject: Passcode issues
>  
> In the past, as I remember it, you only needed to enter the passcode when 
> powering up or after around 40 minutes of inactivity. Now it seems I have to 
> enter the darn thing constantly. Is there any setting that will reduce the 
> need to enter the code so often? In the passcode setting there is a section 
> about when it is required and the one and only option is “immediately”. why 
> is that the only selection and is there any way to change it?
> Please help me with this before I lose my mind totally. LOL
> Thanks,
> Marie
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RE: Passcode issues

[janet gross]

Hi Marie,
I’m sorry to hear about your problems with the face id.  I had the same 
problem, and wow, can that be annoying!  It was actually driving me crazy!  Did 
you ever call Apple? If so, can I ask you what they told you? Have you tried 
going back to the home screen when the face id doesn’t work, and when it 
continuously asks for your passcode? I now find when it asks me for my pass 
code, and if I swipe up from the very bottom of the screen just a little until 
I feel the first vibration, and lift my finger, I can then try the face id 
option again, and the majority of the time it will unlock the phone.  I’ve also 
noticed if I hold my phone up to my face with my left hand, the phone will not 
unlock, but if I hold up the phone with my right hand, I have a much better 
chance of unlocking the phone.  Strange I know, but it is what it is!  Smile!
Matter of fact, I also had a difficult time when I was setting up face id 
myself, I was setting up the face id feature holding the phone in my left hand, 
and VO kept telling me face id is not available on this device, so I thought ok 
I’m going to try this for the fourth time, and I used my right hand then, and 
sure enough, the face id feature was accepted.  Who knows, but I must not be 
holding the phone directly in front of my face when using my left hand.  Go 
figure.  Smile!  I would like to know how your phone is now working though.
Janet

Janet



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Marie N.
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 11:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Passcode issues

It seems to recognize the fingerprint fairly consistently but even so, the 
constant need to use the finger print or the passcode is too demanding. I no 
longer ever take the 6S out of the house so I have turned the passcode off on 
that phone. But I recently got an IPhone X and if not in decent light, the face 
ID does not work and it seems that it requires a code or ID every time the 
screen locks and this is ridiculous. If no one has any ideas, I will call 
accessibility tomorrow and see what they might suggest.
Marie


From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 9:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Passcode issues

Hello Marie,

I have not noticed that my phone asks me for a passcode more than before. Is it 
maybe that your fingerprint is not recognized?


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie N.
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 8:55 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Passcode issues

In the past, as I remember it, you only needed to enter the passcode when 
powering up or after around 40 minutes of inactivity. Now it seems I have to 
enter the darn thing constantly. Is there any setting that will reduce the need 
to enter the code so often? In the passcode setting there is a section about 
when it is required and the one and only option is “immediately”. why is that 
the only selection and is there any way to change it?
Please help me with this before I lose my mind totally. LOL
Thanks,
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Re: Passcode issues

[Marie N.]

Same here but I listened to a podcast from the Blind side and mosen says not to 
move your head too slowly and that you will get slightly better results if 
going faster. I tried that on the alternate Id and (fingers crossed) it seems 
to be more consistent.
Marie


From: Cristóbal Muñoz 
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2018 10:07 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Passcode issues

Face ID has been finicky for me so far. I’ll probably try to redo the face 
scanning thing after I shut things down for today. That said, when it works, 
lighting has no baring. I’ve even made squishy faces on purpose. I’ve yawned 
while unlocking my phone. Continued to talk when unlocking and when it works, 
none of these actions impede it from working. My experience so far is that in 
general it’s simply not consistent. Again though, it could just be a bad 
initial scan. 

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie N.
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2018 6:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Passcode issues

 

Yes I know what you say about the security is correct and I will try to reset 
the face ID so perhaps I get a better result. It just seems like when there is 
plenty of light, it works well but when I am in my office, especially in the 
evening, it is very unreliable. I did go in this morning and put in what they 
call an alternate face ID and will check it out today. Maybe this will solve 
the Id issue. If I can get that to work better, it will be a nice relief. I 
suspect part of my impatience is due to the added new gesture for the home 
button and learning which to do first. LOL!

but you can teach an old dog new tricks.

Marie

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 10:24 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Passcode issues

 

Hi Marie,

 

You are mistaken about Face Id requiring good lighting, in fact, it works in 
total darkness.

Also, if you are asking about whether a passcode or Face Id or Touch Id are 
required to unlock your phone each time then the answer is yes if you have 
enabled passcode/Touch Id or passcode/Face Id. It would hardly be a security 
feature if you could set it so it would only ask you once an hour or something 
like that.

 

The reason for Touch Id on the older phones and Face Id on the new ones is so 
you don't have to enter a passcode each time and to make it easier to unlock 
your phone.

Yes, you can turn the feature off completely, but this also prevents you from 
using Apple Pay, it means that you can't use Touch Id or Face Id to 
authenticate app store purchases so you will have to enter your Apple Id 
password instead of just putting your finger on the home button or looking at 
the phone.

Furthermore, if your phone is ever stolen or lost anybody can access your 
information on the phone and, what is more, there is no barrier to a thief to 
simply wipe the phone and sell it or use it him or herself. At least with a 
passcode along with either Touch Id or Face Id this is not possible.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie N.
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 9:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Passcode issues

 

It seems to recognize the fingerprint fairly consistently but even so, the 
constant need to use the finger print or the passcode is too demanding. I no 
longer ever take the 6S out of the house so I have turned the passcode off on 
that phone. But I recently got an IPhone X and if not in decent light, the face 
ID does not work and it seems that it requires a code or ID every time the 
screen locks and this is ridiculous. If no one has any ideas, I will call 
accessibility tomorrow and see what they might suggest.

Marie

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 9:00 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Passcode issues

 

Hello Marie,

 

I have not noticed that my phone asks me for a passcode more than before. Is it 
maybe that your fingerprint is not recognized?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie N.
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 8:55 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Passcode issues

 

In the past, as I remember it, you only needed to enter the passcode when 
powering up or after around 40 minutes of inactivity. Now it seems I have to 
enter the darn thing constantly. Is there any setting that will reduce the need 
to enter the code so often? In the passcode setting there is a section about 
when it is required and the one and only option is “immediately”. why is that 
the only selection and is there any way to change it?

Please help me with this before I lose my mind totally. LOL

Thanks,

Marie

 

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RE: Passcode issues

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

Face ID has been finicky for me so far. I’ll probably try to redo the face 
scanning thing after I shut things down for today. That said, when it works, 
lighting has no baring. I’ve even made squishy faces on purpose. I’ve yawned 
while unlocking my phone. Continued to talk when unlocking and when it works, 
none of these actions impede it from working. My experience so far is that in 
general it’s simply not consistent. Again though, it could just be a bad 
initial scan. 

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie N.
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2018 6:53 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Passcode issues

 

Yes I know what you say about the security is correct and I will try to reset 
the face ID so perhaps I get a better result. It just seems like when there is 
plenty of light, it works well but when I am in my office, especially in the 
evening, it is very unreliable. I did go in this morning and put in what they 
call an alternate face ID and will check it out today. Maybe this will solve 
the Id issue. If I can get that to work better, it will be a nice relief. I 
suspect part of my impatience is due to the added new gesture for the home 
button and learning which to do first. LOL!

but you can teach an old dog new tricks.

Marie

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 10:24 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: RE: Passcode issues

 

Hi Marie,

 

You are mistaken about Face Id requiring good lighting, in fact, it works in 
total darkness.

Also, if you are asking about whether a passcode or Face Id or Touch Id are 
required to unlock your phone each time then the answer is yes if you have 
enabled passcode/Touch Id or passcode/Face Id. It would hardly be a security 
feature if you could set it so it would only ask you once an hour or something 
like that.

 

The reason for Touch Id on the older phones and Face Id on the new ones is so 
you don't have to enter a passcode each time and to make it easier to unlock 
your phone.

Yes, you can turn the feature off completely, but this also prevents you from 
using Apple Pay, it means that you can't use Touch Id or Face Id to 
authenticate app store purchases so you will have to enter your Apple Id 
password instead of just putting your finger on the home button or looking at 
the phone.

Furthermore, if your phone is ever stolen or lost anybody can access your 
information on the phone and, what is more, there is no barrier to a thief to 
simply wipe the phone and sell it or use it him or herself. At least with a 
passcode along with either Touch Id or Face Id this is not possible.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Marie N.
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 9:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Passcode issues

 

It seems to recognize the fingerprint fairly consistently but even so, the 
constant need to use the finger print or the passcode is too demanding. I no 
longer ever take the 6S out of the house so I have turned the passcode off on 
that phone. But I recently got an IPhone X and if not in decent light, the face 
ID does not work and it seems that it requires a code or ID every time the 
screen locks and this is ridiculous. If no one has any ideas, I will call 
accessibility tomorrow and see what they might suggest.

Marie

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 9:00 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: RE: Passcode issues

 

Hello Marie,

 

I have not noticed that my phone asks me for a passcode more than before. Is it 
maybe that your fingerprint is not recognized?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Marie N.
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 8:55 PM
To: VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Passcode issues

 

In the past, as I remember it, you only needed to enter the passcode when 
powering up or after around 40 minutes of inactivity. Now it seems I have to 
enter the darn thing constantly. Is there any setting that will reduce the need 
to enter the code so often? In the passcode setting there is a section about 
when it is required and the one and only option is “immediately”. why is that 
the only selection and is there any way to change it?

Please help me with this before I lose my mind totally. LOL

Thanks,

Marie

 

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Re: Passcode issues

[Marie N.]

Yes I know what you say about the security is correct and I will try to reset 
the face ID so perhaps I get a better result. It just seems like when there is 
plenty of light, it works well but when I am in my office, especially in the 
evening, it is very unreliable. I did go in this morning and put in what they 
call an alternate face ID and will check it out today. Maybe this will solve 
the Id issue. If I can get that to work better, it will be a nice relief. I 
suspect part of my impatience is due to the added new gesture for the home 
button and learning which to do first. LOL!
but you can teach an old dog new tricks.
Marie


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 10:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Passcode issues

Hi Marie,

 

You are mistaken about Face Id requiring good lighting, in fact, it works in 
total darkness.

Also, if you are asking about whether a passcode or Face Id or Touch Id are 
required to unlock your phone each time then the answer is yes if you have 
enabled passcode/Touch Id or passcode/Face Id. It would hardly be a security 
feature if you could set it so it would only ask you once an hour or something 
like that.

 

The reason for Touch Id on the older phones and Face Id on the new ones is so 
you don't have to enter a passcode each time and to make it easier to unlock 
your phone.

Yes, you can turn the feature off completely, but this also prevents you from 
using Apple Pay, it means that you can't use Touch Id or Face Id to 
authenticate app store purchases so you will have to enter your Apple Id 
password instead of just putting your finger on the home button or looking at 
the phone.

Furthermore, if your phone is ever stolen or lost anybody can access your 
information on the phone and, what is more, there is no barrier to a thief to 
simply wipe the phone and sell it or use it him or herself. At least with a 
passcode along with either Touch Id or Face Id this is not possible.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie N.
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 9:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Passcode issues

 

It seems to recognize the fingerprint fairly consistently but even so, the 
constant need to use the finger print or the passcode is too demanding. I no 
longer ever take the 6S out of the house so I have turned the passcode off on 
that phone. But I recently got an IPhone X and if not in decent light, the face 
ID does not work and it seems that it requires a code or ID every time the 
screen locks and this is ridiculous. If no one has any ideas, I will call 
accessibility tomorrow and see what they might suggest.

Marie

 

 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 9:00 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Subject: RE: Passcode issues

 

Hello Marie,

 

I have not noticed that my phone asks me for a passcode more than before. Is it 
maybe that your fingerprint is not recognized?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie N.
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 8:55 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Passcode issues

 

In the past, as I remember it, you only needed to enter the passcode when 
powering up or after around 40 minutes of inactivity. Now it seems I have to 
enter the darn thing constantly. Is there any setting that will reduce the need 
to enter the code so often? In the passcode setting there is a section about 
when it is required and the one and only option is “immediately”. why is that 
the only selection and is there any way to change it?

Please help me with this before I lose my mind totally. LOL

Thanks,

Marie

 

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[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Marie,

You are mistaken about Face Id requiring good lighting, in fact, it works in 
total darkness.
Also, if you are asking about whether a passcode or Face Id or Touch Id are 
required to unlock your phone each time then the answer is yes if you have 
enabled passcode/Touch Id or passcode/Face Id. It would hardly be a security 
feature if you could set it so it would only ask you once an hour or something 
like that.

The reason for Touch Id on the older phones and Face Id on the new ones is so 
you don't have to enter a passcode each time and to make it easier to unlock 
your phone.
Yes, you can turn the feature off completely, but this also prevents you from 
using Apple Pay, it means that you can't use Touch Id or Face Id to 
authenticate app store purchases so you will have to enter your Apple Id 
password instead of just putting your finger on the home button or looking at 
the phone.
Furthermore, if your phone is ever stolen or lost anybody can access your 
information on the phone and, what is more, there is no barrier to a thief to 
simply wipe the phone and sell it or use it him or herself. At least with a 
passcode along with either Touch Id or Face Id this is not possible.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie N.
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 9:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Passcode issues

It seems to recognize the fingerprint fairly consistently but even so, the 
constant need to use the finger print or the passcode is too demanding. I no 
longer ever take the 6S out of the house so I have turned the passcode off on 
that phone. But I recently got an IPhone X and if not in decent light, the face 
ID does not work and it seems that it requires a code or ID every time the 
screen locks and this is ridiculous. If no one has any ideas, I will call 
accessibility tomorrow and see what they might suggest.
Marie


From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 9:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Passcode issues

Hello Marie,

I have not noticed that my phone asks me for a passcode more than before. Is it 
maybe that your fingerprint is not recognized?


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Marie 
N.
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 8:55 PM
To: VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Passcode issues

In the past, as I remember it, you only needed to enter the passcode when 
powering up or after around 40 minutes of inactivity. Now it seems I have to 
enter the darn thing constantly. Is there any setting that will reduce the need 
to enter the code so often? In the passcode setting there is a section about 
when it is required and the one and only option is “immediately”. why is that 
the only selection and is there any way to change it?
Please help me with this before I lose my mind totally. LOL
Thanks,
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Re: Passcode issues

[Marie N.]

It seems to recognize the fingerprint fairly consistently but even so, the 
constant need to use the finger print or the passcode is too demanding. I no 
longer ever take the 6S out of the house so I have turned the passcode off on 
that phone. But I recently got an IPhone X and if not in decent light, the face 
ID does not work and it seems that it requires a code or ID every time the 
screen locks and this is ridiculous. If no one has any ideas, I will call 
accessibility tomorrow and see what they might suggest.
Marie


From: Sieghard Weitzel 
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 9:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: Passcode issues

Hello Marie,

 

I have not noticed that my phone asks me for a passcode more than before. Is it 
maybe that your fingerprint is not recognized?

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie N.
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 8:55 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Passcode issues

 

In the past, as I remember it, you only needed to enter the passcode when 
powering up or after around 40 minutes of inactivity. Now it seems I have to 
enter the darn thing constantly. Is there any setting that will reduce the need 
to enter the code so often? In the passcode setting there is a section about 
when it is required and the one and only option is “immediately”. why is that 
the only selection and is there any way to change it?

Please help me with this before I lose my mind totally. LOL

Thanks,

Marie

 

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Hello Marie,

I have not noticed that my phone asks me for a passcode more than before. Is it 
maybe that your fingerprint is not recognized?


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Marie N.
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2018 8:55 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Passcode issues

In the past, as I remember it, you only needed to enter the passcode when 
powering up or after around 40 minutes of inactivity. Now it seems I have to 
enter the darn thing constantly. Is there any setting that will reduce the need 
to enter the code so often? In the passcode setting there is a section about 
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the only selection and is there any way to change it?
Please help me with this before I lose my mind totally. LOL
Thanks,
Marie

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Re: Passcode

[Marie]

Thanks Anna,
This is exactly what I needed and did not think about the “Change passcode” 
option.
Marie


From: Anna Dresner 
Sent: Friday, September 28, 2018 10:00 AM
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Subject: Re: Passcode

Hi Marie,

Go to Face ID and Passcode, or the item with a similar title on your phone. 
Enter your current passcode. Choose Change Passcode, and type your current one 
in again. On the next screen, you'll be prompted for a six-digit code, but 
there's also a Passcode Options button. On the next screen, you have several 
options, including four-digit numeric code.

HTH,
Anna





  On Sep 28, 2018, at 11:04 AM, Marie  wrote:

  When setting up a new phone, you are given the choice to enter either a 4 
digit code or the 6 digit code. After setup, when in settings, I can not find a 
way to use the 4 digit code. Am I missing something or is it not possible? This 
seems strange to me that the option is not there after the phone is set up.
  Marie

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Re: Passcode

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Marie,

Go to Face ID and Passcode, or the item with a similar title on your phone. 
Enter your current passcode. Choose Change Passcode, and type your current one 
in again. On the next screen, you'll be prompted for a six-digit code, but 
there's also a Passcode Options button. On the next screen, you have several 
options, including four-digit numeric code.

HTH,
Anna




> On Sep 28, 2018, at 11:04 AM, Marie  wrote:
> 
> When setting up a new phone, you are given the choice to enter either a 4 
> digit code or the 6 digit code. After setup, when in settings, I can not find 
> a way to use the 4 digit code. Am I missing something or is it not possible? 
> This seems strange to me that the option is not there after the phone is set 
> up.
> Marie
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Re: passcode

[Janet Bell]

Hi Rob, thanks very much for this it did the trick.  Janet

From: Rob Armstrong 
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 5:07 PM
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Subject: RE: passcode

You probably need to change the setting for your preferred typing style.  Go to:

Settings

General

Accessibility

VoiceOver

Typing Style

I think the choice called “Standard typing” will work the way you want.  You 
move your finger around the screen until you find the digit or letter you want. 
 Then double-tap to enter it.

 

Rob

 

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Janet Bell
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 11:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: passcode

 

Hi to all please can someone tell me how, since I have upgraded by iPhone 7 to 
the latest ios12 I am unable to put my passcode in using double tapping each 
number on my phone, I have to use an external keyboard to do it and I would 
like to be able to do it as I did before.  Any help would be appreciated.  Janet

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RE: passcode

[Rob Armstrong]

You probably need to change the setting for your preferred typing style.  Go to:

Settings

General

Accessibility

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I think the choice called “Standard typing” will work the way you want.  You 
move your finger around the screen until you find the digit or letter you want. 
 Then double-tap to enter it.

 

Rob

 

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Janet Bell
Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2018 11:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: passcode

 

Hi to all please can someone tell me how, since I have upgraded by iPhone 7 to 
the latest ios12 I am unable to put my passcode in using double tapping each 
number on my phone, I have to use an external keyboard to do it and I would 
like to be able to do it as I did before.  Any help would be appreciated.  Janet

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re: Passcode question

[Wayne Scott]

The only time you enter a passcode with the fingerprint ID is 
when you restart the iphone or if your fingerprint doesn't match.


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From: "Marie" If you put a passcode on your phone, do you have to enter it 
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RE: Passcode question

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And don't forget those times when Touch Id doesn't recognize your fingerprint, 
then you still have to enter your passcode. I think it usually let's you try 3 
or 4 times before it wants the passcode.


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
christopher hallsworth
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 11:18 AM
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Subject: Re: Passcode question

Hello, but it doesn't have to be this way. If you go into settings > touch ID 
and passcode and enter the passcode you can set it to only require the passcode 
up to 4 hours.
> On 22 Jun 2017, at 18:30, Greg Wocher  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> If you put in a passcode without a fingerprint than yes each time you wake 
> the phone you will need to put it in. If you set up touch id with your 
> fingerprint you will only need to put in your passcode when you turn your 
> phone off and on again. The only other time you should have to use your 
> passcode is when you update iOS.
> 
> Regards,
> Greg Wocher
> 
>> On Jun 22, 2017, at 1:25 PM, Marie  wrote:
>> 
>> If you put a passcode on your phone, do you have to enter it every time you 
>> wake the phone? And if you add the fingerprint ID, do you only have to enter 
>> the passcode when powering on?
>> Thanks, Marie
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Re: Passcode question

[christopher hallsworth]

Hello, but it doesn't have to be this way. If you go into settings > touch ID 
and passcode and enter the passcode you can set it to only require the passcode 
up to 4 hours.
> On 22 Jun 2017, at 18:30, Greg Wocher  wrote:
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> Hello,
> If you put in a passcode without a fingerprint than yes each time you wake 
> the phone you will need to put it in. If you set up touch id with your 
> fingerprint you will only need to put in your passcode when you turn your 
> phone off and on again. The only other time you should have to use your 
> passcode is when you update iOS.
> 
> Regards,
> Greg Wocher
> 
>> On Jun 22, 2017, at 1:25 PM, Marie  wrote:
>> 
>> If you put a passcode on your phone, do you have to enter it every time you 
>> wake the phone? And if you add the fingerprint ID, do you only have to enter 
>> the passcode when powering on?
>> Thanks, Marie
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Re: Passcode question

[Greg Wocher]

Hello,
If you put in a passcode without a fingerprint than yes each time you wake the 
phone you will need to put it in. If you set up touch id with your fingerprint 
you will only need to put in your passcode when you turn your phone off and on 
again. The only other time you should have to use your passcode is when you 
update iOS.

Regards,
Greg Wocher

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> If you put a passcode on your phone, do you have to enter it every time you 
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Re: Passcode question

[Jennie Facer]

You only have to put the passcode in when you power on as long as you have your 
fingerprint ID established. The only time you truly have to put the passcode in 
is when you power on the phone like you said. Hope this helps.
Jenn

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Re: Passcode issue has been resolved.

[Stacey Robinson]

Totally, I can't use my phone without VO. I'm totally blind.

Blessings,
Stacey Robinson
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On May 15, 2014, at 7:28 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

> This is great. I'm just curious, was there an accessibility issue here? I 
> don't recall every message in the thread, but I don't recall reading anything 
> about VoiceOver or accessibility with respect to this issue. Like I said, I'm 
> just curious and wondering if I might have missed or misunderstood something.
> 
> On 05/13/2014 07:49 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> The passcode issue has been resolved.
>> Apples disibility support number really came in handy.
>> 
>> Blessings,
>> Stacey Robinson
>> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
>> 
>> On May 11, 2014, at 6:21 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:
>> 
>>> Well,
>>> My subject says it all.
>>> I somehow got the passcode feature turned on on my new iPhone 5S. I can't 
>>> remember the passcode so can't do anything with my phone.
>>> Can someone tell me if theres a reset or something I can do to get my phone 
>>> back running?
>>> Most importantly how do I turn the feature off after phone is going again.
>>> 
>>> Blessings,
>>> Stacey Robinson
>>> mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net
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Re: Passcode issue has been resolved.

[Christopher Chaltain]

This is great. I'm just curious, was there an accessibility issue here? 
I don't recall every message in the thread, but I don't recall reading 
anything about VoiceOver or accessibility with respect to this issue. 
Like I said, I'm just curious and wondering if I might have missed or 
misunderstood something.


On 05/13/2014 07:49 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:

Hi all,
The passcode issue has been resolved.
Apples disibility support number really came in handy.

Blessings,
Stacey Robinson
mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net

On May 11, 2014, at 6:21 AM, Stacey Robinson wrote:


Well,
My subject says it all.
I somehow got the passcode feature turned on on my new iPhone 5S. I can't 
remember the passcode so can't do anything with my phone.
Can someone tell me if theres a reset or something I can do to get my phone 
back running?
Most importantly how do I turn the feature off after phone is going again.

Blessings,
Stacey Robinson
mailto:stacey...@bellsouth.net

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RE: passcode and touch id

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Don,

As several others pointed out, you cannot use Touch ID without a Passcode.
You can use a Passcode and not setup the Touch ID, but not vice versa. In
fact, if you set up Touch ID, you still have to unlock your phone for the
first time using the passcode if you ever do a restart. You also will be
prompted to enter your passcode to unlock the phone if your fingerprint
didn't get recognized 3 times in a row.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: passcode and touch id

Hi all, just got my iphone 5s yesterday and have a question.

What I want to do is to turn off the passcode but leave the touch id on.
Seems as though if I turn the passcode off, touch id doesn't work either.

How should I set up those options to do what I want it to do?  

Thanks,
Don


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RE: passcode and touch id

[Ron Pelletier]

Hi,

The Touch ID won't work without a passcode.  That's because you need a
backup in case your touch ID doesn't work and it does happen.

Ron & Danvers


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Subject: passcode and touch id

Hi all, just got my iphone 5s yesterday and have a question.

What I want to do is to turn off the passcode but leave the touch id on.
Seems as though if I turn the passcode off, touch id doesn't work either.

How should I set up those options to do what I want it to do?  

Thanks,
Don


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Re: passcode and touch id

[Gadget Girl Anita]

Hello.  You have to use a pass code with touch ID.  When touch ID does not 
work, the phone will ask you to input your passcode.  Also, the phone will 
require a passcode from time to time to renew your touch ID.  Especially for 
App Store purchases.  Hope this helps.

Regards,
Gadget Girl Anita

Sent from my Apple gadget.  Apple, take a bite, express yourself.

> On Dec 5, 2013, at 4:45 PM, don bishop  wrote:
> 
> Hi all, just got my iphone 5s yesterday and have a question.
> 
> What I want to do is to turn off the passcode but leave the touch id on.  
> Seems as though if I turn the passcode off, touch id doesn’t work either.
> 
> How should I set up those options to do what I want it to do?  
> 
> Thanks,
> Don
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Re: passcode and touch id

[ROBERT CARTER]

Hi Don,

Without a passcode, touch id is not needed. You would simply use the unlock 
icon to unlock the phone. Touch ID is away to use a passcode without having to 
actually enter the passcode manually.

Robert Carter


On Dec 5, 2013, at 3:45 PM, don bishop  wrote:

> Hi all, just got my iphone 5s yesterday and have a question.
> 
> What I want to do is to turn off the passcode but leave the touch id on.  
> Seems as though if I turn the passcode off, touch id doesn’t work either.
> 
> How should I set up those options to do what I want it to do?  
> 
> Thanks,
> Don
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Re: passcode, I have not password in this iPhone?

[Pablo Morales]

Hi Sandy
Well, that I did to fix this issue is this.
1. connect the USB cord of my iPhone 4 to my computer.
2. with the Dot connector disconnected of my iPhone 4, press the home button, 
and connect the dot connector in my iPhone 3. Hold pressing the home button, 
until iTunes says something like iTunes detected an iPhone  in recovery mode. 
Then iTunes will start to make questions.
This process also restore the iPhone as factory settings, or from a back up.
It deleted everything of my iPhone 4, and just I had to restore it, and my 
iPhone is going to be activated today by my friend.
Thanks Sandy, and thanks for all and every one.
P


  - Original Message - 
  From: Sandratomkins 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 5:04 AM
  Subject: Re: passcode, I have not password in this iPhone?


  Hi Pablo,
  I am not sure about this but… try plugging your iPhone for into the power 
then hold the sleep and home buttons down for at least 30 seconds. You have to 
hold them down together long enough so that you hear the iPhone beginning to 
talk to you again. This is different from the normal reset of holding them down 
for maybe 10 seconds. I have the impression, from previous posts on this list, 
that this might get you past the password issue. You will be asked if you wish 
to restore the phone from backup or restore as the new iPhone. I would suggest 
that you choose the second and restore as a new phone. If you are asked for a 
password, I think, that you would need to use your Apple ID and not any other 
type of password. I have to admit, I haven't tried this myself, not having your 
problems. But worth a try…


  Good luck,
  Sandy.

  Sent from my iPhone

  On 25 Oct 2013, at 22:27, "Pablo Morales"  wrote:


No, it doesn't ask me the apple ID, it ask a passcode. But what passcode is 
it?
I used a passcode in this iPhone 4  a long time ago, and it is the same 
passcode that I have in my new iPhone. 
I know that it is not the apple ID, but because I have to iPhone into the 
same apple ID, and I receive iMessages into my both iPhones, and every calendar 
request, or that kind of things comes to both iPhones, I thought that the 
problem could be something related with the apple ID. I don't have phone 
service in my iPhone 4, but at home it is connected to internet via WiFi.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 10:59 AM
  Subject: RE: passcode, I have not password in this iPhone?


  Pablo,



  Could you confirm if it shows your Apple ID on the screen and is asking 
for a password for your Apple ID or is it asking for a “passcode” to unlock the 
phone?



  it is asking for a “



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Behalf Of Pablo Morales
  Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 2:08 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: passcode, I have not password in this iPhone?



  Hi all.

  In my old iPhone 4, my friend asked me to reset or restore the iPhone 
again. Well, When I connect the iPhone 4  to my computer it says that mi iPhone 
can not be connected  to this computer because it has a password in there. I 
should type the password, before try to connect my iPhone 4  with iTunes. The 
problem is that I never give a password to this iPhone, and the password that I 
have in my iPhone 5s is not working in this iPhone 4. What can I do to fix this 
access problem to my old iPhone when it ask me a password that I never gave?

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Re: passcode, I have not password in this iPhone?

[Sandratomkins]

Hi Pablo,
I am not sure about this but… try plugging your iPhone for into the power then 
hold the sleep and home buttons down for at least 30 seconds. You have to hold 
them down together long enough so that you hear the iPhone beginning to talk to 
you again. This is different from the normal reset of holding them down for 
maybe 10 seconds. I have the impression, from previous posts on this list, that 
this might get you past the password issue. You will be asked if you wish to 
restore the phone from backup or restore as the new iPhone. I would suggest 
that you choose the second and restore as a new phone. If you are asked for a 
password, I think, that you would need to use your Apple ID and not any other 
type of password. I have to admit, I haven't tried this myself, not having your 
problems. But worth a try…

Good luck,
Sandy.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 25 Oct 2013, at 22:27, "Pablo Morales"  wrote:
> 
> No, it doesn't ask me the apple ID, it ask a passcode. But what passcode is 
> it?
> I used a passcode in this iPhone 4  a long time ago, and it is the same 
> passcode that I have in my new iPhone.
> I know that it is not the apple ID, but because I have to iPhone into the 
> same apple ID, and I receive iMessages into my both iPhones, and every 
> calendar request, or that kind of things comes to both iPhones, I thought 
> that the problem could be something related with the apple ID. I don't have 
> phone service in my iPhone 4, but at home it is connected to internet via 
> WiFi.
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 10:59 AM
> Subject: RE: passcode, I have not password in this iPhone?
> 
> Pablo,
>  
> Could you confirm if it shows your Apple ID on the screen and is asking for a 
> password for your Apple ID or is it asking for a “passcode” to unlock the 
> phone?
>  
> it is asking for a “
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Pablo Morales
> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 2:08 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: passcode, I have not password in this iPhone?
>  
> Hi all.
> In my old iPhone 4, my friend asked me to reset or restore the iPhone again. 
> Well, When I connect the iPhone 4  to my computer it says that mi iPhone can 
> not be connected  to this computer because it has a password in there. I 
> should type the password, before try to connect my iPhone 4  with iTunes. The 
> problem is that I never give a password to this iPhone, and the password that 
> I have in my iPhone 5s is not working in this iPhone 4. What can I do to fix 
> this access problem to my old iPhone when it ask me a password that I never 
> gave?
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Re: passcode, I have not password in this iPhone?

[Pablo Morales]

Yeah Grant. You are right. I spoke to apple, and they told me to do a recovery 
process. With the recovery I reset passcodes, and everything. Now I got my old 
iPhone ready to be on my friend hands.
Thanks Grant.
Pablo

  - Original Message - 
  From: Grant Hardy 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 7:40 PM
  Subject: RE: passcode, I have not password in this iPhone?


  Pablo,

   

  I'm almost positive that you're being asked for a restrictions passcode. At 
some point I am guessing you went into settings>general>restrictions and set 
one up-you can use this feature to restrict things like explicit language in 
Siri, and explicit content from the iTunes Store. A restrictions passcode 
remains even if you restore from a backup that previously had a restrictions 
passcode.

   

  If you can remember the restrictions passcode, enter it when erasing your 
iPhone. If you can't, follow the instructions here to place your iPhone in 
recovery mode and restore it that way: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1212

   

  Best,

   

  Grant

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Pablo Morales
  Sent: October 25, 2013 2:27 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: passcode, I have not password in this iPhone?

   

  No, it doesn't ask me the apple ID, it ask a passcode. But what passcode is 
it?

  I used a passcode in this iPhone 4  a long time ago, and it is the same 
passcode that I have in my new iPhone. 

  I know that it is not the apple ID, but because I have to iPhone into the 
same apple ID, and I receive iMessages into my both iPhones, and every calendar 
request, or that kind of things comes to both iPhones, I thought that the 
problem could be something related with the apple ID. I don't have phone 
service in my iPhone 4, but at home it is connected to internet via WiFi.

   

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 10:59 AM

Subject: RE: passcode, I have not password in this iPhone?

 

Pablo,

 

Could you confirm if it shows your Apple ID on the screen and is asking for 
a password for your Apple ID or is it asking for a "passcode" to unlock the 
phone?

 

it is asking for a "

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 2:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: passcode, I have not password in this iPhone?

 

Hi all.

In my old iPhone 4, my friend asked me to reset or restore the iPhone 
again. Well, When I connect the iPhone 4  to my computer it says that mi iPhone 
can not be connected  to this computer because it has a password in there. I 
should type the password, before try to connect my iPhone 4  with iTunes. The 
problem is that I never give a password to this iPhone, and the password that I 
have in my iPhone 5s is not working in this iPhone 4. What can I do to fix this 
access problem to my old iPhone when it ask me a password that I never gave?

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RE: passcode, I have not password in this iPhone?

[Grant Hardy]

Pablo,

 

I'm almost positive that you're being asked for a restrictions passcode. At
some point I am guessing you went into settings>general>restrictions and set
one up-you can use this feature to restrict things like explicit language in
Siri, and explicit content from the iTunes Store. A restrictions passcode
remains even if you restore from a backup that previously had a restrictions
passcode.

 

If you can remember the restrictions passcode, enter it when erasing your
iPhone. If you can't, follow the instructions here to place your iPhone in
recovery mode and restore it that way: http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1212

 

Best,

 

Grant

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Pablo Morales
Sent: October 25, 2013 2:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: passcode, I have not password in this iPhone?

 

No, it doesn't ask me the apple ID, it ask a passcode. But what passcode is
it?

I used a passcode in this iPhone 4  a long time ago, and it is the same
passcode that I have in my new iPhone. 

I know that it is not the apple ID, but because I have to iPhone into the
same apple ID, and I receive iMessages into my both iPhones, and every
calendar request, or that kind of things comes to both iPhones, I thought
that the problem could be something related with the apple ID. I don't have
phone service in my iPhone 4, but at home it is connected to internet via
WiFi.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 10:59 AM

Subject: RE: passcode, I have not password in this iPhone?

 

Pablo,

 

Could you confirm if it shows your Apple ID on the screen and is asking for
a password for your Apple ID or is it asking for a "passcode" to unlock the
phone?

 

it is asking for a "

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 2:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: passcode, I have not password in this iPhone?

 

Hi all.

In my old iPhone 4, my friend asked me to reset or restore the iPhone again.
Well, When I connect the iPhone 4  to my computer it says that mi iPhone can
not be connected  to this computer because it has a password in there. I
should type the password, before try to connect my iPhone 4  with iTunes.
The problem is that I never give a password to this iPhone, and the password
that I have in my iPhone 5s is not working in this iPhone 4. What can I do
to fix this access problem to my old iPhone when it ask me a password that I
never gave?

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Re: passcode, I have not password in this iPhone?

[Pablo Morales]

No, it doesn't ask me the apple ID, it ask a passcode. But what passcode is it?
I used a passcode in this iPhone 4  a long time ago, and it is the same 
passcode that I have in my new iPhone. 
I know that it is not the apple ID, but because I have to iPhone into the same 
apple ID, and I receive iMessages into my both iPhones, and every calendar 
request, or that kind of things comes to both iPhones, I thought that the 
problem could be something related with the apple ID. I don't have phone 
service in my iPhone 4, but at home it is connected to internet via WiFi.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Sieghard Weitzel 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 10:59 AM
  Subject: RE: passcode, I have not password in this iPhone?


  Pablo,

   

  Could you confirm if it shows your Apple ID on the screen and is asking for a 
password for your Apple ID or is it asking for a "passcode" to unlock the phone?

   

  it is asking for a "

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Pablo Morales
  Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 2:08 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: passcode, I have not password in this iPhone?

   

  Hi all.

  In my old iPhone 4, my friend asked me to reset or restore the iPhone again. 
Well, When I connect the iPhone 4  to my computer it says that mi iPhone can 
not be connected  to this computer because it has a password in there. I should 
type the password, before try to connect my iPhone 4  with iTunes. The problem 
is that I never give a password to this iPhone, and the password that I have in 
my iPhone 5s is not working in this iPhone 4. What can I do to fix this access 
problem to my old iPhone when it ask me a password that I never gave?

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Re: passcode, I have not password in this iPhone?

[Pablo Morales]

Hi Sieghard.
Yes, this iPhone 4 is for my friend.
and yes, restoring the iPhone 4 will do that I want. even though, when I 
connect the iPhone 4  to my computer, iTunes says that the iPhone can not be 
connected, and I have to entry a passcode. In my iPhone 4 appears the sign 
of entry your passcode, and it is numeric., but I never applied a passcode 
to this iPhone.
So I am not able to restore my old iPhone 4, because iTunes says that I need 
to type the passcode in my iPhone, and because of that, it can not be 
connected.
I don't know why my old iPhone 4 is doing it, I guess it is jealous because 
the new iPhone 5s. Even though, I have not idea what to do, it is the first 
time that I see this kind of things in my iPhone. I typed the passcode of my 
iPhone 5s, and  it didn't work. I typed the passcode of my iPhone 4, a 
passcode that I used a long time ago, and it didn't work. Help


- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 4:14 PM
Subject: RE: passcode, I have not password in this iPhone?



Hi Pablo,

I thought you are giving this iPhone to somebody else? Why not just 
restore

it so it sits at the setup screen and then let the new owner do their own
thing, chances are they want to set up their own Apple Id.

If it is a 4-digit numeric code then it is a "passcode" not a "password".
This has nothing to do with your Apple ID unless somehow by signing up the
old 4 on your Apple ID the passcode was synced via iCloud, but I didn't
think it would do this.
Anyhow, Fanus in South Africa said he had the same problem, he opted not 
to
use a passcode during the setup process and later on it asked for one. I 
can
only assume that this is some sort of bug, of course it's a bad bug if 
this
really happens since if you don't choose a passcode and then it asks for 
one

you have no idea.
Anyhow, I would just hook it to iTunes and restore it again, then when 
it's

finished just give it to you rfriend.
There are so many variables here that it is really hard to say for sure 
what

is happening.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 12:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: passcode, I have not password in this iPhone?

Hi Ana.
Nope, it is a numeric pass, and it is of 4 digits. Even though, i think 
that

it is a problem with the apple iD, because of these; 1. When I setup my
iphone 5s, I had my iPhone 4  off, and restored.
2. Later when i finished the restore in my iPhone 4, I use the same apple
account that I have in my iPhone 5s. Later I turned off my iphone 4.
3. Today I tried to use the iPhone 4, without cell provider, and the
password appeared. i never gave a password to that iPhone 4.
4. I  signed out of apple account in my computer, and later I started to 
get

the following problems.
4.1. I am not able to create another apple account, to be use in my iPhone
4.
4.2. I am not able to get my email from my iphone 5s.
So i think that something is happening with the access. More over my 
iPhone

4 says iPhone disable.
Help!!!




On 10/25/13, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:

Hi,

Type in the password you use with your Apple ID.

Best,
Anna



On Oct 25, 2013, at 4:07 AM, Pablo Morales 
wrote:


Hi all.
In my old iPhone 4, my friend asked me to reset or restore the iPhone
again. Well, When I connect the iPhone 4  to my computer it says that
mi iPhone can not be connected  to this computer because it has a
password in there. I should type the password, before try to connect
my iPhone 4  with iTunes. The problem is that I never give a password
to this iPhone, and the password that I have in my iPhone 5s is not

working in this iPhone 4.

What can I do to fix this access problem to my old iPhone when it ask
me a password that I never gave?

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RE: passcode, I have not password in this iPhone?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Pablo,

I thought you are giving this iPhone to somebody else? Why not just restore
it so it sits at the setup screen and then let the new owner do their own
thing, chances are they want to set up their own Apple Id.

If it is a 4-digit numeric code then it is a "passcode" not a "password".
This has nothing to do with your Apple ID unless somehow by signing up the
old 4 on your Apple ID the passcode was synced via iCloud, but I didn't
think it would do this.
Anyhow, Fanus in South Africa said he had the same problem, he opted not to
use a passcode during the setup process and later on it asked for one. I can
only assume that this is some sort of bug, of course it's a bad bug if this
really happens since if you don't choose a passcode and then it asks for one
you have no idea.
Anyhow, I would just hook it to iTunes and restore it again, then when it's
finished just give it to you rfriend.
There are so many variables here that it is really hard to say for sure what
is happening.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 12:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: passcode, I have not password in this iPhone?

Hi Ana.
Nope, it is a numeric pass, and it is of 4 digits. Even though, i think that
it is a problem with the apple iD, because of these; 1. When I setup my
iphone 5s, I had my iPhone 4  off, and restored.
2. Later when i finished the restore in my iPhone 4, I use the same apple
account that I have in my iPhone 5s. Later I turned off my iphone 4.
3. Today I tried to use the iPhone 4, without cell provider, and the
password appeared. i never gave a password to that iPhone 4.
4. I  signed out of apple account in my computer, and later I started to get
the following problems.
4.1. I am not able to create another apple account, to be use in my iPhone
4.
4.2. I am not able to get my email from my iphone 5s.
So i think that something is happening with the access. More over my iPhone
4 says iPhone disable.
Help!!!




On 10/25/13, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Type in the password you use with your Apple ID.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
>
> On Oct 25, 2013, at 4:07 AM, Pablo Morales 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all.
>> In my old iPhone 4, my friend asked me to reset or restore the iPhone 
>> again. Well, When I connect the iPhone 4  to my computer it says that 
>> mi iPhone can not be connected  to this computer because it has a 
>> password in there. I should type the password, before try to connect 
>> my iPhone 4  with iTunes. The problem is that I never give a password 
>> to this iPhone, and the password that I have in my iPhone 5s is not
working in this iPhone 4.
>> What can I do to fix this access problem to my old iPhone when it ask 
>> me a password that I never gave?
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Re: passcode, I have not password in this iPhone?

[Pablo Morales]

Hi Ana.
Nope, it is a numeric pass, and it is of 4 digits. Even though, i
think that it is a problem with the apple iD, because of these;
1. When I setup my iphone 5s, I had my iPhone 4  off, and restored.
2. Later when i finished the restore in my iPhone 4, I use the same
apple account that I have in my iPhone 5s. Later I turned off my
iphone 4.
3. Today I tried to use the iPhone 4, without cell provider, and the
password appeared. i never gave a password to that iPhone 4.
4. I  signed out of apple account in my computer, and later I started
to get the following problems.
4.1. I am not able to create another apple account, to be use in my iPhone 4.
4.2. I am not able to get my email from my iphone 5s.
So i think that something is happening with the access. More over my
iPhone 4 says iPhone disable.
Help!!!




On 10/25/13, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Type in the password you use with your Apple ID.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
>
> On Oct 25, 2013, at 4:07 AM, Pablo Morales 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all.
>> In my old iPhone 4, my friend asked me to reset or restore the iPhone
>> again. Well, When I connect the iPhone 4  to my computer it says that mi
>> iPhone can not be connected  to this computer because it has a password in
>> there. I should type the password, before try to connect my iPhone 4  with
>> iTunes. The problem is that I never give a password to this iPhone, and
>> the password that I have in my iPhone 5s is not working in this iPhone 4.
>> What can I do to fix this access problem to my old iPhone when it ask me a
>> password that I never gave?
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RE: passcode, I have not password in this iPhone?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Pablo,

 

Could you confirm if it shows your Apple ID on the screen and is asking for
a password for your Apple ID or is it asking for a "passcode" to unlock the
phone?

 

it is asking for a "

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2013 2:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: passcode, I have not password in this iPhone?

 

Hi all.

In my old iPhone 4, my friend asked me to reset or restore the iPhone again.
Well, When I connect the iPhone 4  to my computer it says that mi iPhone can
not be connected  to this computer because it has a password in there. I
should type the password, before try to connect my iPhone 4  with iTunes.
The problem is that I never give a password to this iPhone, and the password
that I have in my iPhone 5s is not working in this iPhone 4. What can I do
to fix this access problem to my old iPhone when it ask me a password that I
never gave?

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Re: passcode, I have not password in this iPhone?

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi,

Type in the password you use with your Apple ID.

Best,
Anna



On Oct 25, 2013, at 4:07 AM, Pablo Morales  wrote:

> Hi all.
> In my old iPhone 4, my friend asked me to reset or restore the iPhone again. 
> Well, When I connect the iPhone 4  to my computer it says that mi iPhone can 
> not be connected  to this computer because it has a password in there. I 
> should type the password, before try to connect my iPhone 4  with iTunes. The 
> problem is that I never give a password to this iPhone, and the password that 
> I have in my iPhone 5s is not working in this iPhone 4. What can I do to fix 
> this access problem to my old iPhone when it ask me a password that I never 
> gave?
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Re: Passcode entry with handwriting

[Neil Barnfather - TalkNav]

One of the things I really like about hand writing your pass code is that Voice 
Over does not announce the numbers I am drawing, and, I have got extremely good 
at writing them very small on the screen, as such, someone sighted does not, 
when looking over my shoulder, get the idea from my hand movements what I am 
writing.




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On 10 Oct 2013, at 06:31, Harry Bell  wrote:

> I'm trying to learn to use voiceover but can't find out what to do after 
> writing the last number of my passcode. I use the rotor to turn on 
> handwriting on the lock screen and my 5s recognises my numbers. A sighted 
> person would then tap the OK button but I have no idea what gesture will 
> activate ok on the pass code screen and google has not helped. Any ideas, 
> folks?
> Thanks
> Harry
> 
> A Swinging Door in Open Moorland
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Re: Passcode entry with handwriting

[David Chittenden]

Yes, when you are using advanced passcode entry, you have to hit ok. This is 
because, the passcode entry length is variable.

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> On 11 Oct 2013, at 19:20, Harry Bell  wrote:
> 
> Thank you all for your replies from far away! I too am puzzled as I have 
> tried over and over entering the passcode numbers via keypad or handwriting 
> and after the final digit I wait and wait and nothing happens - until I tap 
> OK when I succeed in getting to my home page. Could it be because I have a 
> six digit passcode rather than 4? Even with touch ID the passcode is required 
> when restarting phone. And a 3 finger swipe right after entering numbers has 
> no effect.
> Harry
> 
> A Swinging Door in Open Moorland
> 
> On 11 Oct 2013, at 05:19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Harry,
>> 
>> Peter is correct, if you enter/write the numbers correctly the phone will
>> unlock as soon as you enter the last number just as is the case if you enter
>> the numbers on the keypad. If it doesn't do that it must not recognize one
>> or more of your numbers and I bet if you checked the screen or ask a sighted
>> person to look it would say that an incorrect passcode was entered. Make
>> sure you don't turn on to wipe the phone after 10 unsuccessful attempts!
>> Anyhow, if you have a 5S, why not set up fingerprints? Of course it's still
>> important to know your passcode and to be able to enter it either on the
>> keypad or with handwriting, but while my 5S won't be here for a few more
>> days, everything I read and heard was that it works extremely well and it
>> will certainly become my primary way to unlock my phone.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Harry Bell
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 10:32 PM
>> To: Abridged Recipients
>> Subject: Passcode entry with handwriting
>> 
>> I'm trying to learn to use voiceover but can't find out what to do after
>> writing the last nber of my passcode. I use the rotor to turn on handwriting
>> on the lock screen and my 5s recognises my numbers. A sighted person would
>> then tap the OK button but I have no idea what gesture will activate ok on
>> the pass code screen and google has not helped. Any ideas, folks?
>> Thanks
>> Harry
>> 
>> A Swinging Door in Open Moorland
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Re: Passcode entry with handwriting

[Christopher Chaltain]

Is the longer password also a fixed length? Since the simple password is 
exactly 4 digits, the pass code app knows when you're finished entering 
your pass code. If the non-simple pass code is variable length then it 
needs some way of knowing when you're done entering the pass code.


On 10/11/2013 02:09 AM, Harry Bell wrote:

Success' I changed my pass code to a simple 4 digit one and now it does work as 
you all describe! How odd that a more secure longer passcode requires the ok 
button to be pressed! Thank you all!
Harry

A Swinging Door in Open Moorland

On 11 Oct 2013, at 05:19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


Hi Harry,

Peter is correct, if you enter/write the numbers correctly the phone will
unlock as soon as you enter the last number just as is the case if you enter
the numbers on the keypad. If it doesn't do that it must not recognize one
or more of your numbers and I bet if you checked the screen or ask a sighted
person to look it would say that an incorrect passcode was entered. Make
sure you don't turn on to wipe the phone after 10 unsuccessful attempts!
Anyhow, if you have a 5S, why not set up fingerprints? Of course it's still
important to know your passcode and to be able to enter it either on the
keypad or with handwriting, but while my 5S won't be here for a few more
days, everything I read and heard was that it works extremely well and it
will certainly become my primary way to unlock my phone.


Regards,
Sieghard


Regards,
Sieghard


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Of Harry Bell
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 10:32 PM
To: Abridged Recipients
Subject: Passcode entry with handwriting

I'm trying to learn to use voiceover but can't find out what to do after
writing the last nber of my passcode. I use the rotor to turn on handwriting
on the lock screen and my 5s recognises my numbers. A sighted person would
then tap the OK button but I have no idea what gesture will activate ok on
the pass code screen and google has not helped. Any ideas, folks?
Thanks
Harry

A Swinging Door in Open Moorland

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Re: Passcode entry with handwriting

[Harry Bell]

Thank you all for your replies from far away! I too am puzzled as I have tried 
over and over entering the passcode numbers via keypad or handwriting and after 
the final digit I wait and wait and nothing happens - until I tap OK when I 
succeed in getting to my home page. Could it be because I have a six digit 
passcode rather than 4? Even with touch ID the passcode is required when 
restarting phone. And a 3 finger swipe right after entering numbers has no 
effect.
Harry

A Swinging Door in Open Moorland

On 11 Oct 2013, at 05:19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Hi Harry,
> 
> Peter is correct, if you enter/write the numbers correctly the phone will
> unlock as soon as you enter the last number just as is the case if you enter
> the numbers on the keypad. If it doesn't do that it must not recognize one
> or more of your numbers and I bet if you checked the screen or ask a sighted
> person to look it would say that an incorrect passcode was entered. Make
> sure you don't turn on to wipe the phone after 10 unsuccessful attempts!
> Anyhow, if you have a 5S, why not set up fingerprints? Of course it's still
> important to know your passcode and to be able to enter it either on the
> keypad or with handwriting, but while my 5S won't be here for a few more
> days, everything I read and heard was that it works extremely well and it
> will certainly become my primary way to unlock my phone.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Harry Bell
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 10:32 PM
> To: Abridged Recipients
> Subject: Passcode entry with handwriting
> 
> I'm trying to learn to use voiceover but can't find out what to do after
> writing the last nber of my passcode. I use the rotor to turn on handwriting
> on the lock screen and my 5s recognises my numbers. A sighted person would
> then tap the OK button but I have no idea what gesture will activate ok on
> the pass code screen and google has not helped. Any ideas, folks?
> Thanks
> Harry
> 
> A Swinging Door in Open Moorland
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Re: Passcode entry with handwriting

[Harry Bell]

Success' I changed my pass code to a simple 4 digit one and now it does work as 
you all describe! How odd that a more secure longer passcode requires the ok 
button to be pressed! Thank you all!
Harry

A Swinging Door in Open Moorland

On 11 Oct 2013, at 05:19, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Hi Harry,
> 
> Peter is correct, if you enter/write the numbers correctly the phone will
> unlock as soon as you enter the last number just as is the case if you enter
> the numbers on the keypad. If it doesn't do that it must not recognize one
> or more of your numbers and I bet if you checked the screen or ask a sighted
> person to look it would say that an incorrect passcode was entered. Make
> sure you don't turn on to wipe the phone after 10 unsuccessful attempts!
> Anyhow, if you have a 5S, why not set up fingerprints? Of course it's still
> important to know your passcode and to be able to enter it either on the
> keypad or with handwriting, but while my 5S won't be here for a few more
> days, everything I read and heard was that it works extremely well and it
> will certainly become my primary way to unlock my phone.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Harry Bell
> Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 10:32 PM
> To: Abridged Recipients
> Subject: Passcode entry with handwriting
> 
> I'm trying to learn to use voiceover but can't find out what to do after
> writing the last nber of my passcode. I use the rotor to turn on handwriting
> on the lock screen and my 5s recognises my numbers. A sighted person would
> then tap the OK button but I have no idea what gesture will activate ok on
> the pass code screen and google has not helped. Any ideas, folks?
> Thanks
> Harry
> 
> A Swinging Door in Open Moorland
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RE: Passcode entry with handwriting

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Harry,

Peter is correct, if you enter/write the numbers correctly the phone will
unlock as soon as you enter the last number just as is the case if you enter
the numbers on the keypad. If it doesn't do that it must not recognize one
or more of your numbers and I bet if you checked the screen or ask a sighted
person to look it would say that an incorrect passcode was entered. Make
sure you don't turn on to wipe the phone after 10 unsuccessful attempts!
Anyhow, if you have a 5S, why not set up fingerprints? Of course it's still
important to know your passcode and to be able to enter it either on the
keypad or with handwriting, but while my 5S won't be here for a few more
days, everything I read and heard was that it works extremely well and it
will certainly become my primary way to unlock my phone.


Regards,
Sieghard


Regards,
Sieghard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Harry Bell
Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 10:32 PM
To: Abridged Recipients
Subject: Passcode entry with handwriting

I'm trying to learn to use voiceover but can't find out what to do after
writing the last nber of my passcode. I use the rotor to turn on handwriting
on the lock screen and my 5s recognises my numbers. A sighted person would
then tap the OK button but I have no idea what gesture will activate ok on
the pass code screen and google has not helped. Any ideas, folks?
Thanks
Harry

A Swinging Door in Open Moorland

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Re: Passcode entry with handwriting

[Peter Logan]

On my 5S ... once the last number is entered .. it automatically unlocks ..



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> On Oct 10, 2013, at 1:31 AM, Harry Bell  wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to learn to use voiceover but can't find out what to do after 
> writing the last nber of my passcode. I use the rotor to turn on handwriting 
> on the lock screen and my 5s recognises my numbers. A sighted person would 
> then tap the OK button but I have no idea what gesture will activate ok on 
> the pass code screen and google has not helped. Any ideas, folks?
> Thanks
> Harry
> 
> A Swinging Door in Open Moorland
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Re: Passcode entry with handwriting

[Denny Schwab]

I would try a three-finger swipe right.  This is the same as hitting
the return key.  If that doesn't work you could always use the router
to go to another mode, like word, and then swipe to the return or ok
button.

On 10/10/13, Harry Bell  wrote:
> I'm trying to learn to use voiceover but can't find out what to do after
> writing the last nber of my passcode. I use the rotor to turn on handwriting
> on the lock screen and my 5s recognises my numbers. A sighted person would
> then tap the OK button but I have no idea what gesture will activate ok on
> the pass code screen and google has not helped. Any ideas, folks?
> Thanks
> Harry
>
> A Swinging Door in Open Moorland
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