RE: Fingerprint ID question

2017-01-17 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
No issues here with Touch Id on my 6S Plus, only time it doesn’t work is when 
sometimes my hands are extremely dry and cold or have cuts from woodworking.

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regina alvarado
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2017 5:02 PM
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Subject: Re: Fingerprint ID question


Nancy, I" think he was confused about what you were saying. I have a 7 and it 
does the same thing. I know when the phone is turned off that when turned back 
on it requires a pass code. However, I have re-done my fingerprints about 5 
times. They only work for maybe 3 times to get an app or open the lock screen. 
Then phone starts squawking about putting in my code or if an app I need to put 
in my password. This is something new. When 10.2 came out it was fine. now it 
is not. I became so tired of it asking for my code that I turned off my 
fingerprint. However, I wish they'd fix it!

Reggie and Lex


On Jan 17, 2017, at 7:14 PM, Nancy 
<girlyscr...@comcast.net<mailto:girlyscr...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Joseph, are you saying that you can't just choose to use only the finger print 
ID, that you have to use both?



I'm sorry but Im confused...



nancy'm

On 1/17/2017 1:45 PM, Joseph Hudson wrote:
Nancy, as long as the fingerprint is active the reason why it's asking you for 
the passcode, because it wants you to use the fingerprint or the passcode so 
unless you don't want to have to do this unfortunately this is how it works.
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On Jan 17, 2017, at 12:15 PM, Nancy 
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Everyone,

I have an SE.  I have my thumb print assigned to be my ID.


What do I have to do to let my Thumbprint be all that is necessary for me to 
have full access to my SE.  There is no problem in making or receiving calls, 
but it seems the SE often asks for the 6 digit pass code.  How can I get the SE 
to stop asking me for my pass code no matter what I want to do with it?


Thanks!

Nancy and her SE

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Re: Fingerprint ID question

2017-01-17 Thread regina alvarado

Nancy, I" think he was confused about what you were saying. I have a 7 and it 
does the same thing. I know when the phone is turned off that when turned back 
on it requires a pass code. However, I have re-done my fingerprints about 5 
times. They only work for maybe 3 times to get an app or open the lock screen. 
Then phone starts squawking about putting in my code or if an app I need to put 
in my password. This is something new. When 10.2 came out it was fine. now it 
is not. I became so tired of it asking for my code that I turned off my 
fingerprint. However, I wish they'd fix it!


Reggie and Lex


On Jan 17, 2017, at 7:14 PM, Nancy  wrote:

Joseph, are you saying that you can't just choose to use only the finger print 
ID, that you have to use both?


I'm sorry but Im confused...


nancy'm 

> On 1/17/2017 1:45 PM, Joseph Hudson wrote:
> Nancy, as long as the fingerprint is active the reason why it's asking you 
> for the passcode, because it wants you to use the fingerprint or the passcode 
> so unless you don't want to have to do this unfortunately this is how it 
> works.
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>> On Jan 17, 2017, at 12:15 PM, Nancy  wrote:
>> 
>> Everyone,
>> 
>> I have an SE.  I have my thumb print assigned to be my ID.
>> 
>> 
>> What do I have to do to let my Thumbprint be all that is necessary for me to 
>> have full access to my SE.  There is no problem in making or receiving 
>> calls, but it seems the SE often asks for the 6 digit pass code.  How can I 
>> get the SE to stop asking me for my pass code no matter what I want to do 
>> with it?
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Nancy and her SE
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Re: Fingerprint ID question

2017-01-17 Thread Nancy
Joseph, are you saying that you can't just choose to use only the finger 
print ID, that you have to use both?



I'm sorry but Im confused...


nancy'm


On 1/17/2017 1:45 PM, Joseph Hudson wrote:
Nancy, as long as the fingerprint is active the reason why it's asking 
you for the passcode, because it wants you to use the fingerprint or 
the passcode so unless you don't want to have to do this unfortunately 
this is how it works.

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On Jan 17, 2017, at 12:15 PM, Nancy > wrote:


Everyone,

I have an SE.  I have my thumb print assigned to be my ID.


What do I have to do to let my Thumbprint be all that is necessary 
for me to have full access to my SE.  There is no problem in making 
or receiving calls, but it seems the SE often asks for the 6 digit 
pass code.  How can I get the SE to stop asking me for my pass code 
no matter what I want to do with it?



Thanks!

Nancy and her SE

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Re: Fingerprint ID question

2017-01-17 Thread Joseph Hudson
Nancy, as long as the fingerprint is active the reason why it's asking you for 
the passcode, because it wants you to use the fingerprint or the passcode so 
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> On Jan 17, 2017, at 12:15 PM, Nancy  wrote:
> 
> Everyone,
> 
> I have an SE.  I have my thumb print assigned to be my ID.
> 
> 
> What do I have to do to let my Thumbprint be all that is necessary for me to 
> have full access to my SE.  There is no problem in making or receiving calls, 
> but it seems the SE often asks for the 6 digit pass code.  How can I get the 
> SE to stop asking me for my pass code no matter what I want to do with it?
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
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Re: Fingerprint.

2014-09-15 Thread rhonda cruz
 hi i don't have any pplablam. with the finger print scaner. it works great.
On Jul 13, 2014, at 2:25 PM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net 
wrote:

 I don't have any problems with the finger print scanner and it works very 
 well.
 
 Alan
 
 Sent from my iPad Air
 
 On Jul 13, 2014, at 2:13 PM, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 My fingerprint reader always works for me. Knock on wood, but it works 100% 
 of the time. I only have to enter the four-digit code when I restart my 
 phone. I used to have trouble with it until I discovered that if I place my 
 finger on the home button for only a moment and then lift my finger. It 
 always works. However, if I press and hold my finger on the scanner button 
 until my phone is unlocked then it works about 50% of the time. Sorry, it's 
 hard to explain. My husband's phone works exactly as mine. If he puts his 
 finger to the home button and lifts it, the phone will unlock without any 
 problems.
 
 Christina
 
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Re: Fingerprint.

2014-07-13 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
Hello.

It does work now, as I am a braille reader/transcriber so your description made 
sense. 

Thank you.

Kawal.

 On 12 Jul 2014, at 10:59 pm, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 If you are a Braille reader, use the same part of your finger you would use
 to use Braille. Not the tip.
 
 Ron  Danvers
 
 
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 Of Kawal Gucukoglu
 Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 2:30 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Fingerprint.
 
 If those of you who use to use an optican, that is how I placed my thumb and
 index finger alternatively to get the finger print to recognise. I will try
 it again though and see what happens.
 
 Thank you.
 
 Kawal.
 
 On 12 Jul 2014, at 07:33 am, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Kawal,
 
 When you say you set up a number of prints, do you mean you set up 
 different fingers or did you scan the same finger on several of the
 available 5 spots?
 When I first got my 5S I read somewhere that the recognition is more 
 successful if you scan, for example, your right thumb on 2 or 3 of the 
 available 5 spots. I did this and just as with you it worked well for 
 a bit and then it got worse. After the 7.1 update which was supposed 
 to bring improved recognition it actually got worse for me. Then at 
 one point I decided I would delete all my prints again and start over. 
 I did this and set up my right thumb just on the first fingerprint 
 spot. Ever since this my recognition rate is I would say very close to 
 100% and also much faster. I think having scanned my thumb 3 times on 
 different spots just caused the processor to do unnecessary 
 calculations and it apparently did more harm than good. I also found 
 that the success rate is much better if you don't use the very tip of 
 your finger but use the pad of your finger sort of half way between 
 the fingertip and the first joint. I only use the fingertip when it asks
 you to scan the edges of your finger.
 Like I said, I couldn't be happier now, it's fast and works absolutely 
 fantastically with the only exception being when I just done a bunch 
 of woodworking and I might have little cuts on my finger, glue residue 
 or stuff like that, but that's to be expected.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
 Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 11:25 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Fingerprint.
 
 Hello.
 
 Has anyone experienced the following with their 5 S Fingerprint?
 
 I for example have set up a number of fingerprints on my 5S and a week 
 later, none of them are recognised.  This has happened to me since I 
 bought my I phone from the Apple store.  Well as I've sold this phone 
 now so that I can buy my next I phone from the Apple Store when it's 
 out hope that the Fingerprint will work better.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: Fingerprint.

2014-07-13 Thread Christina C.
My fingerprint reader always works for me. Knock on wood, but it works 100% of 
the time. I only have to enter the four-digit code when I restart my phone. I 
used to have trouble with it until I discovered that if I place my finger on 
the home button for only a moment and then lift my finger. It always works. 
However, if I press and hold my finger on the scanner button until my phone is 
unlocked then it works about 50% of the time. Sorry, it's hard to explain. My 
husband's phone works exactly as mine. If he puts his finger to the home button 
and lifts it, the phone will unlock without any problems.

Christina

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Re: Fingerprint.

2014-07-13 Thread Alan Paganelli
I don't have any problems with the finger print scanner and it works very well.

Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

 On Jul 13, 2014, at 2:13 PM, Christina C. blindmaclo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 My fingerprint reader always works for me. Knock on wood, but it works 100% 
 of the time. I only have to enter the four-digit code when I restart my 
 phone. I used to have trouble with it until I discovered that if I place my 
 finger on the home button for only a moment and then lift my finger. It 
 always works. However, if I press and hold my finger on the scanner button 
 until my phone is unlocked then it works about 50% of the time. Sorry, it's 
 hard to explain. My husband's phone works exactly as mine. If he puts his 
 finger to the home button and lifts it, the phone will unlock without any 
 problems.
 
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RE: Fingerprint.

2014-07-12 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Kawal,

When you say you set up a number of prints, do you mean you set up different
fingers or did you scan the same finger on several of the available 5 spots?
When I first got my 5S I read somewhere that the recognition is more
successful if you scan, for example, your right thumb on 2 or 3 of the
available 5 spots. I did this and just as with you it worked well for a bit
and then it got worse. After the 7.1 update which was supposed to bring
improved recognition it actually got worse for me. Then at one point I
decided I would delete all my prints again and start over. I did this and
set up my right thumb just on the first fingerprint spot. Ever since this my
recognition rate is I would say very close to 100% and also much faster. I
think having scanned my thumb 3 times on different spots just caused the
processor to do unnecessary calculations and it apparently did more harm
than good. I also found that the success rate is much better if you don't
use the very tip of your finger but use the pad of your finger sort of half
way between the fingertip and the first joint. I only use the fingertip when
it asks you to scan the edges of your finger.
Like I said, I couldn't be happier now, it's fast and works absolutely
fantastically with the only exception being when I just done a bunch of
woodworking and I might have little cuts on my finger, glue residue or stuff
like that, but that's to be expected.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Of Kawal Gucukoglu
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fingerprint.

Hello.

Has anyone experienced the following with their 5 S Fingerprint?

I for example have set up a number of fingerprints on my 5S and a week
later, none of them are recognised.  This has happened to me since I bought
my I phone from the Apple store.  Well as I've sold this phone now so that I
can buy my next I phone from the Apple Store when it's out hope that the
Fingerprint will work better.

Thanks.

Kawal.

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Re: Fingerprint.

2014-07-12 Thread John Panarese
I have had the same experience with Sieghard.  I had to redo all my prints 
and just stuck with one print for the two fingers I usually use.  When I set up 
the prints, I made sure I set my finger down from several angles during the 
creation process.  Also, remember that when you place your finger on the home 
button, it must be firmly set.  Also, be sure it's not damp or too cold either. 
 These factors seem to effect recognition, so, for example, if you have just 
washed and dried your hands and your finger might still be cold.

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On Jul 12, 2014, at 2:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

 Hi Kawal,
 
 When you say you set up a number of prints, do you mean you set up different
 fingers or did you scan the same finger on several of the available 5 spots?
 When I first got my 5S I read somewhere that the recognition is more
 successful if you scan, for example, your right thumb on 2 or 3 of the
 available 5 spots. I did this and just as with you it worked well for a bit
 and then it got worse. After the 7.1 update which was supposed to bring
 improved recognition it actually got worse for me. Then at one point I
 decided I would delete all my prints again and start over. I did this and
 set up my right thumb just on the first fingerprint spot. Ever since this my
 recognition rate is I would say very close to 100% and also much faster. I
 think having scanned my thumb 3 times on different spots just caused the
 processor to do unnecessary calculations and it apparently did more harm
 than good. I also found that the success rate is much better if you don't
 use the very tip of your finger but use the pad of your finger sort of half
 way between the fingertip and the first joint. I only use the fingertip when
 it asks you to scan the edges of your finger.
 Like I said, I couldn't be happier now, it's fast and works absolutely
 fantastically with the only exception being when I just done a bunch of
 woodworking and I might have little cuts on my finger, glue residue or stuff
 like that, but that's to be expected.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Kawal Gucukoglu
 Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 11:25 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Fingerprint.
 
 Hello.
 
 Has anyone experienced the following with their 5 S Fingerprint?
 
 I for example have set up a number of fingerprints on my 5S and a week
 later, none of them are recognised.  This has happened to me since I bought
 my I phone from the Apple store.  Well as I've sold this phone now so that I
 can buy my next I phone from the Apple Store when it's out hope that the
 Fingerprint will work better.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Kawal.
 
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Re: Fingerprint.

2014-07-12 Thread Alan Paganelli
When I did my finger prints, when I heard lift your finger, I lifted my finger. 
 When I heard, place your finger, I then placed my finger in a slightly 
different place for example, the first time more on the tip of my finger.  
Second time, the tip of that finger as if I were typing on a keyboard.  Each 
time, I made the scan slightly different.  I have no problems at all getting 
the finger print read by the scanner.  I used my thumb and index finger of both 
hands as these would be the fingers I would most often use.

Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

 On Jul 12, 2014, at 7:55 AM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
I have had the same experience with Sieghard.  I had to redo all my prints 
 and just stuck with one print for the two fingers I usually use.  When I set 
 up the prints, I made sure I set my finger down from several angles during 
 the creation process.  Also, remember that when you place your finger on the 
 home button, it must be firmly set.  Also, be sure it's not damp or too cold 
 either.  These factors seem to effect recognition, so, for example, if you 
 have just washed and dried your hands and your finger might still be cold.
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
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 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
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 On Jul 12, 2014, at 2:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Kawal,
 
 When you say you set up a number of prints, do you mean you set up different
 fingers or did you scan the same finger on several of the available 5 spots?
 When I first got my 5S I read somewhere that the recognition is more
 successful if you scan, for example, your right thumb on 2 or 3 of the
 available 5 spots. I did this and just as with you it worked well for a bit

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Re: Fingerprint.

2014-07-12 Thread Joseph
Hello,
How many fingerprints can be input into the phone?

On Jul 12, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net 
wrote:

 When I did my finger prints, when I heard lift your finger, I lifted my 
 finger.  When I heard, place your finger, I then placed my finger in a 
 slightly different place for example, the first time more on the tip of my 
 finger.  Second time, the tip of that finger as if I were typing on a 
 keyboard.  Each time, I made the scan slightly different.  I have no problems 
 at all getting the finger print read by the scanner.  I used my thumb and 
 index finger of both hands as these would be the fingers I would most often 
 use.
 
 Alan
 
 Sent from my iPad Air
 
 On Jul 12, 2014, at 7:55 AM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   I have had the same experience with Sieghard.  I had to redo all my prints 
 and just stuck with one print for the two fingers I usually use.  When I set 
 up the prints, I made sure I set my finger down from several angles during 
 the creation process.  Also, remember that when you place your finger on the 
 home button, it must be firmly set.  Also, be sure it's not damp or too cold 
 either.  These factors seem to effect recognition, so, for example, if you 
 have just washed and dried your hands and your finger might still be cold.
 
 Take Care
 
 John D. Panarese
 Director
 Mac for the Blind
 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
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 Lion
 
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 On Jul 12, 2014, at 2:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Kawal,
 
 When you say you set up a number of prints, do you mean you set up different
 fingers or did you scan the same finger on several of the available 5 spots?
 When I first got my 5S I read somewhere that the recognition is more
 successful if you scan, for example, your right thumb on 2 or 3 of the
 available 5 spots. I did this and just as with you it worked well for a bit
 
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Re: Fingerprint.

2014-07-12 Thread Kawal Gucukoglu
If those of you who use to use an optican, that is how I placed my thumb and 
index finger alternatively to get the finger print to recognise. I will try it 
again though and see what happens.

Thank you.

Kawal.

 On 12 Jul 2014, at 07:33 am, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Kawal,
 
 When you say you set up a number of prints, do you mean you set up different
 fingers or did you scan the same finger on several of the available 5 spots?
 When I first got my 5S I read somewhere that the recognition is more
 successful if you scan, for example, your right thumb on 2 or 3 of the
 available 5 spots. I did this and just as with you it worked well for a bit
 and then it got worse. After the 7.1 update which was supposed to bring
 improved recognition it actually got worse for me. Then at one point I
 decided I would delete all my prints again and start over. I did this and
 set up my right thumb just on the first fingerprint spot. Ever since this my
 recognition rate is I would say very close to 100% and also much faster. I
 think having scanned my thumb 3 times on different spots just caused the
 processor to do unnecessary calculations and it apparently did more harm
 than good. I also found that the success rate is much better if you don't
 use the very tip of your finger but use the pad of your finger sort of half
 way between the fingertip and the first joint. I only use the fingertip when
 it asks you to scan the edges of your finger.
 Like I said, I couldn't be happier now, it's fast and works absolutely
 fantastically with the only exception being when I just done a bunch of
 woodworking and I might have little cuts on my finger, glue residue or stuff
 like that, but that's to be expected.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Kawal Gucukoglu
 Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 11:25 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Fingerprint.
 
 Hello.
 
 Has anyone experienced the following with their 5 S Fingerprint?
 
 I for example have set up a number of fingerprints on my 5S and a week
 later, none of them are recognised.  This has happened to me since I bought
 my I phone from the Apple store.  Well as I've sold this phone now so that I
 can buy my next I phone from the Apple Store when it's out hope that the
 Fingerprint will work better.
 
 Thanks.
 
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Re: Fingerprint.

2014-07-12 Thread Alan Paganelli

I haven't experienced anything like what you described on my iPhone 5s.

Regards,

Alan

I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being 
ridiculous - everyone

hasn't met me yet.

Please click on:

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There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: Kawal Gucukoglu kgli...@icloud.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 11:25 PM
Subject: Fingerprint.


Hello.

Has anyone experienced the following with their 5 S Fingerprint?

I for example have set up a number of fingerprints on my 5S and a week 
later, none of them are recognised.  This has happened to me since I bought 
my I phone from the Apple store.  Well as I've sold this phone now so that I 
can buy my next I phone from the Apple Store when it's out hope that the 
Fingerprint will work better.


Thanks.

Kawal.

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Re: Fingerprint.

2014-07-12 Thread Alan Paganelli

I believe up to 5.

Regards,

Alan

I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being 
ridiculous - everyone

hasn't met me yet.

Please click on:

HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
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website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: Joseph ablindvou...@icloud.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: Fingerprint.


Hello,
How many fingerprints can be input into the phone?

On Jul 12, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net 
wrote:


When I did my finger prints, when I heard lift your finger, I lifted my 
finger.  When I heard, place your finger, I then placed my finger in a 
slightly different place for example, the first time more on the tip of my 
finger.  Second time, the tip of that finger as if I were typing on a 
keyboard.  Each time, I made the scan slightly different.  I have no 
problems at all getting the finger print read by the scanner.  I used my 
thumb and index finger of both hands as these would be the fingers I would 
most often use.


Alan

Sent from my iPad Air


On Jul 12, 2014, at 7:55 AM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:

  I have had the same experience with Sieghard.  I had to redo all my 
prints and just stuck with one print for the two fingers I usually use. 
When I set up the prints, I made sure I set my finger down from several 
angles during the creation process.  Also, remember that when you place 
your finger on the home button, it must be firmly set.  Also, be sure 
it's not damp or too cold either.  These factors seem to effect 
recognition, so, for example, if you have just washed and dried your 
hands and your finger might still be cold.


Take Care

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Director
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Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
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On Jul 12, 2014, at 2:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:

Hi Kawal,

When you say you set up a number of prints, do you mean you set up 
different
fingers or did you scan the same finger on several of the available 5 
spots?

When I first got my 5S I read somewhere that the recognition is more
successful if you scan, for example, your right thumb on 2 or 3 of the
available 5 spots. I did this and just as with you it worked well for a 
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RE: Fingerprint.

2014-07-12 Thread Ron Pelletier
Sieghard,

The cuts and residue on fingers is the reason why I scanned 3 fingers in one
hand and the thumb and index in my left hand. That way, no matter what,
there is always a finger that works.  I mostly use my right index or right
thumb but, if needed, I have 3 other fingers.
I never lend my phone to anyone so I didn't need any spare print
possibilities. If a telephone is shared, well, you can't use them all
yourself

Ron  Danvers  


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Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 2:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Fingerprint.

Hi Kawal,

When you say you set up a number of prints, do you mean you set up different
fingers or did you scan the same finger on several of the available 5 spots?
When I first got my 5S I read somewhere that the recognition is more
successful if you scan, for example, your right thumb on 2 or 3 of the
available 5 spots. I did this and just as with you it worked well for a bit
and then it got worse. After the 7.1 update which was supposed to bring
improved recognition it actually got worse for me. Then at one point I
decided I would delete all my prints again and start over. I did this and
set up my right thumb just on the first fingerprint spot. Ever since this my
recognition rate is I would say very close to 100% and also much faster. I
think having scanned my thumb 3 times on different spots just caused the
processor to do unnecessary calculations and it apparently did more harm
than good. I also found that the success rate is much better if you don't
use the very tip of your finger but use the pad of your finger sort of half
way between the fingertip and the first joint. I only use the fingertip when
it asks you to scan the edges of your finger.
Like I said, I couldn't be happier now, it's fast and works absolutely
fantastically with the only exception being when I just done a bunch of
woodworking and I might have little cuts on my finger, glue residue or stuff
like that, but that's to be expected.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 11:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fingerprint.

Hello.

Has anyone experienced the following with their 5 S Fingerprint?

I for example have set up a number of fingerprints on my 5S and a week
later, none of them are recognised.  This has happened to me since I bought
my I phone from the Apple store.  Well as I've sold this phone now so that I
can buy my next I phone from the Apple Store when it's out hope that the
Fingerprint will work better.

Thanks.

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RE: Fingerprint.

2014-07-12 Thread Ron Pelletier
Hi,

You can input 5 prints

Ron  Danvers


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Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 1:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Hello,
How many fingerprints can be input into the phone?

On Jul 12, 2014, at 10:16 AM, Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net
wrote:

 When I did my finger prints, when I heard lift your finger, I lifted my
finger.  When I heard, place your finger, I then placed my finger in a
slightly different place for example, the first time more on the tip of my
finger.  Second time, the tip of that finger as if I were typing on a
keyboard.  Each time, I made the scan slightly different.  I have no
problems at all getting the finger print read by the scanner.  I used my
thumb and index finger of both hands as these would be the fingers I would
most often use.
 
 Alan
 
 Sent from my iPad Air
 
 On Jul 12, 2014, at 7:55 AM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   I have had the same experience with Sieghard.  I had to redo all my
prints and just stuck with one print for the two fingers I usually use.
When I set up the prints, I made sure I set my finger down from several
angles during the creation process.  Also, remember that when you place your
finger on the home button, it must be firmly set.  Also, be sure it's not
damp or too cold either.  These factors seem to effect recognition, so, for
example, if you have just washed and dried your hands and your finger might
still be cold.
 
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 On Jul 12, 2014, at 2:33 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Kawal,
 
 When you say you set up a number of prints, do you mean you set up 
 different fingers or did you scan the same finger on several of the
available 5 spots?
 When I first got my 5S I read somewhere that the recognition is more 
 successful if you scan, for example, your right thumb on 2 or 3 of 
 the available 5 spots. I did this and just as with you it worked 
 well for a bit
 
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RE: Fingerprint.

2014-07-12 Thread Ron Pelletier
Hi,

If you are a Braille reader, use the same part of your finger you would use
to use Braille. Not the tip.

Ron  Danvers


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kawal Gucukoglu
Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 2:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fingerprint.

If those of you who use to use an optican, that is how I placed my thumb and
index finger alternatively to get the finger print to recognise. I will try
it again though and see what happens.

Thank you.

Kawal.

 On 12 Jul 2014, at 07:33 am, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Kawal,
 
 When you say you set up a number of prints, do you mean you set up 
 different fingers or did you scan the same finger on several of the
available 5 spots?
 When I first got my 5S I read somewhere that the recognition is more 
 successful if you scan, for example, your right thumb on 2 or 3 of the 
 available 5 spots. I did this and just as with you it worked well for 
 a bit and then it got worse. After the 7.1 update which was supposed 
 to bring improved recognition it actually got worse for me. Then at 
 one point I decided I would delete all my prints again and start over. 
 I did this and set up my right thumb just on the first fingerprint 
 spot. Ever since this my recognition rate is I would say very close to 
 100% and also much faster. I think having scanned my thumb 3 times on 
 different spots just caused the processor to do unnecessary 
 calculations and it apparently did more harm than good. I also found 
 that the success rate is much better if you don't use the very tip of 
 your finger but use the pad of your finger sort of half way between 
 the fingertip and the first joint. I only use the fingertip when it asks
you to scan the edges of your finger.
 Like I said, I couldn't be happier now, it's fast and works absolutely 
 fantastically with the only exception being when I just done a bunch 
 of woodworking and I might have little cuts on my finger, glue residue 
 or stuff like that, but that's to be expected.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu
 Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 11:25 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Fingerprint.
 
 Hello.
 
 Has anyone experienced the following with their 5 S Fingerprint?
 
 I for example have set up a number of fingerprints on my 5S and a week 
 later, none of them are recognised.  This has happened to me since I 
 bought my I phone from the Apple store.  Well as I've sold this phone 
 now so that I can buy my next I phone from the Apple Store when it's 
 out hope that the Fingerprint will work better.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Kawal.
 
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RE: Fingerprint Recognission

2014-05-09 Thread Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)
Thank you very much indeed for all your help and for taking the time to 
describe the steps in so much detail.


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Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 08 May 2014 18:04
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Fingerprint Recognission

It really is a simple process, all you have to do is go to Settings and then 
find Touch ID and Passcode just below Sounds.
Once you double tap find where you can turn Passcode on as this has to be your 
first step. It will ask you to enter a 4 digit number on a keypad just like the 
phone keypad. If you can dial a phone number you will have no problems. After 
you enter the last digit it will ask you to reenter the same 4 digits to 
confirm and once that is done Passcode will be active.

You can now find where it says Require Passcode. By default this is set to 
immediately, if you double tap on this you can choose from a number of times, 
e.g. if you select 5 minutes it means that if you lock your phone and then try 
to unlock in less than 5 minutes you will not be asked for a passcode, only if 
more than 5 minutes have passed since your last unlock will you be asked to put 
in your passcode.

I would also suggest you leave it on Simple Passcode, if you turn this off you 
have the option to enter a longer passcode like a 5, 6 or I think even 7 or 8 
digit passcode.

Lastly, just go to where the fingerprints heading is, then swipe right to Adda 
Fingerprint and double tap it.
Voiceover will tell you to place your finger on the home key, you put it on the 
home key and lift it off, the phone will vibrate briefly to indicate it has 
taken a reading.
Now repeat this, you will be asked to do this probably 10 or so times and it's 
a good idea to you're your finger around a bit, capture the edges and different 
parts. Don't use the very tip of your finger too much, more the area between 
the tip and the first joint.
There really is nothing you can mess up here, worst case is that it won't read 
your fingerprint well and you'll be asked to put in your passcode.
You can add up to 5 fingers or what I do is that I use at least 3 or 4 of the 
spots to reenter my thumb which I use to unlock my phone. The more often you 
register your print the better your chances it will work.
As I said, Voiceover will tell you what to do, at some point during the 
registration it may say that you should now capture the edges of your finger 
and you may have to tap on a continue button and do a few more readings, once 
Touch Id has captured enough good readings it will tell you that it's ready and 
that you can now use your finger to unlock the phone.

To unlock, push the home button, release it and leave your finger on the home 
button for another second or so, the phone should unlock.


Regards,
Sieghard

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT 
SERVICES)
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 1:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Fingerprint Recognission

Thanks very much for your help, would you be happy to talk to me off list if 
you have done this already?
I am guessing that it is a wizard in the settings but I don't want to screw my 
phone up otherwise it will hhave to go back to Apple to be unlocked and then I 
would expect a charge and some way of proving that it is mine.


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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 08 May 2014 08:44
To: viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Fingerprint Recognission

A passcode is always required if you enable this level of security, you cannot 
add fingerprints without first setting a passcode.

Also, if you do add Fingerprints and I really don't know why anybody who has a 
5S would not do this as it works fantastically, you still have to remember that 
if you reboot your iPhone that the first time you unlock it you do have to use 
the passcode.

The same is true if you try to unlock with your fingerprint and after 3 tries 
it does not work, at that point it will default back to the passcode.


Regards,
Sieghard

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT 
SERVICES)
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 12:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.commailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fingerprint Recognission

Hi friends,

I need to consider some security on my IPhone 5s, just wondering what people 
have found the best way forward, a pass code or fingerprint recognission?
Can you overwrite the fingerprint recognission with a pass code if required for 
example?

Many thanks in anticipation,




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Re: Fingerprint Recognission

2014-05-09 Thread Matt Moran

Hi Hicks,

I use both the Fingerprint and the Passcode.

Please write back.

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RE: Fingerprint Recognission

2014-05-09 Thread Ron Pelletier
Hi,

 

To add to what Sieghard pointed out, if you need to put in your passcode and
don't want anyone next to you to hear it, use your rotor to go to
handwriting and put in your passcode that way by drawing the numbers on the
screen.  In that mode the digits are not echoed.

 

Ron  Danvers

 

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Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 3:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Fingerprint Recognission

 

A passcode is always required if you enable this level of security, you
cannot add fingerprints without first setting a passcode.

 

Also, if you do add Fingerprints and I really don't know why anybody who has
a 5S would not do this as it works fantastically, you still have to remember
that if you reboot your iPhone that the first time you unlock it you do have
to use the passcode.

 

The same is true if you try to unlock with your fingerprint and after 3
tries it does not work, at that point it will default back to the passcode.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 12:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fingerprint Recognission

 

Hi friends,

 

I need to consider some security on my IPhone 5s, just wondering what people
have found the best way forward, a pass code or fingerprint recognission?

Can you overwrite the fingerprint recognission with a pass code if required
for example?

 

Many thanks in anticipation,

 





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RE: Fingerprint Recognission

2014-05-08 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
A passcode is always required if you enable this level of security, you
cannot add fingerprints without first setting a passcode.

 

Also, if you do add Fingerprints and I really don't know why anybody who has
a 5S would not do this as it works fantastically, you still have to remember
that if you reboot your iPhone that the first time you unlock it you do have
to use the passcode.

 

The same is true if you try to unlock with your fingerprint and after 3
tries it does not work, at that point it will default back to the passcode.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 12:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fingerprint Recognission

 

Hi friends,

 

I need to consider some security on my IPhone 5s, just wondering what people
have found the best way forward, a pass code or fingerprint recognission?

Can you overwrite the fingerprint recognission with a pass code if required
for example?

 

Many thanks in anticipation,

 





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RE: Fingerprint Recognission

2014-05-08 Thread Hicks Steven (CORNWALL IT SERVICES)
Thanks very much for your help, would you be happy to talk to me off list if 
you have done this already?
I am guessing that it is a wizard in the settings but I don't want to screw my 
phone up otherwise it will hhave to go back to Apple to be unlocked and then I 
would expect a charge and some way of proving that it is mine.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 08 May 2014 08:44
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Fingerprint Recognission

A passcode is always required if you enable this level of security, you cannot 
add fingerprints without first setting a passcode.

Also, if you do add Fingerprints and I really don't know why anybody who has a 
5S would not do this as it works fantastically, you still have to remember that 
if you reboot your iPhone that the first time you unlock it you do have to use 
the passcode.

The same is true if you try to unlock with your fingerprint and after 3 tries 
it does not work, at that point it will default back to the passcode.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Hi friends,

I need to consider some security on my IPhone 5s, just wondering what people 
have found the best way forward, a pass code or fingerprint recognission?
Can you overwrite the fingerprint recognission with a pass code if required for 
example?

Many thanks in anticipation,




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RE: Fingerprint Recognission

2014-05-08 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
It really is a simple process, all you have to do is go to Settings and then
find Touch ID and Passcode just below Sounds.

Once you double tap find where you can turn Passcode on as this has to be
your first step. It will ask you to enter a 4 digit number on a keypad just
like the phone keypad. If you can dial a phone number you will have no
problems. After you enter the last digit it will ask you to reenter the same
4 digits to confirm and once that is done Passcode will be active.

 

You can now find where it says Require Passcode. By default this is set to
immediately, if you double tap on this you can choose from a number of
times, e.g. if you select 5 minutes it means that if you lock your phone and
then try to unlock in less than 5 minutes you will not be asked for a
passcode, only if more than 5 minutes have passed since your last unlock
will you be asked to put in your passcode.

 

I would also suggest you leave it on Simple Passcode, if you turn this off
you have the option to enter a longer passcode like a 5, 6 or I think even 7
or 8 digit passcode.

 

Lastly, just go to where the fingerprints heading is, then swipe right to
Adda Fingerprint and double tap it.

Voiceover will tell you to place your finger on the home key, you put it on
the home key and lift it off, the phone will vibrate briefly to indicate it
has taken a reading.

Now repeat this, you will be asked to do this probably 10 or so times and
it's a good idea to you're your finger around a bit, capture the edges and
different parts. Don't use the very tip of your finger too much, more the
area between the tip and the first joint.

There really is nothing you can mess up here, worst case is that it won't
read your fingerprint well and you'll be asked to put in your passcode. 

You can add up to 5 fingers or what I do is that I use at least 3 or 4 of
the spots to reenter my thumb which I use to unlock my phone. The more often
you register your print the better your chances it will work.

As I said, Voiceover will tell you what to do, at some point during the
registration it may say that you should now capture the edges of your finger
and you may have to tap on a continue button and do a few more readings,
once Touch Id has captured enough good readings it will tell you that it's
ready and that you can now use your finger to unlock the phone.

 

To unlock, push the home button, release it and leave your finger on the
home button for another second or so, the phone should unlock.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 1:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Fingerprint Recognission

 

Thanks very much for your help, would you be happy to talk to me off list if
you have done this already?

I am guessing that it is a wizard in the settings but I don't want to screw
my phone up otherwise it will hhave to go back to Apple to be unlocked and
then I would expect a charge and some way of proving that it is mine.

 

 

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Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: 08 May 2014 08:44
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Fingerprint Recognission

 

A passcode is always required if you enable this level of security, you
cannot add fingerprints without first setting a passcode.

 

Also, if you do add Fingerprints and I really don't know why anybody who has
a 5S would not do this as it works fantastically, you still have to remember
that if you reboot your iPhone that the first time you unlock it you do have
to use the passcode.

 

The same is true if you try to unlock with your fingerprint and after 3
tries it does not work, at that point it will default back to the passcode.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 12:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Fingerprint Recognission

 

Hi friends,

 

I need to consider some security on my IPhone 5s, just wondering what people
have found the best way forward, a pass code or fingerprint recognission?

Can you overwrite the fingerprint recognission with a pass code if required
for example?

 

Many thanks in anticipation,

 





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RE: Fingerprint Success

2013-09-25 Thread Ron Pelletier
Hi,

As a note, you can also put in your wife's finger print if you wish.  It
will take up to 5 finger prints.

Ron  Danvers



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Getting back up is LIVING...


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Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 7:01 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fingerprint Success

With the help of Jonathan Mosen's book, I figured out how to unlock my phone
using the fingerprint I created.  You rest your finger on the home button to
activate the print.  It does require for you to rest your finger on the
right area, but practice will improve this skill.  I really like this
feature.  I have a passcode set up, so if I am unable to use my phone, my
wife has the code and she can unlock if necessary.  For every day use, the
fingerprint will be used.  It's easier, and the passcode will not be
verbalized for others to hear.  This is a feature I thought I would never
use, but I'm pleasantly surprised to report that I will; it's a great
addition with the iPhone 5S.

Les

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Re: Fingerprint service, was RE: wireless printer recommendations compatible with i devices and Windows pcs

2012-12-29 Thread Rick Alfaro

Rich,

I did se the FingerPrint utility, but what I found is totally free and 
works great.  Info is in my previous message but just in case, here's 
the link again.

http://tinyurl.com/6xt5p9w


Best,

Rick alfaro

On 12/23/2012 4:39 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

So, Rick,
Was the utility called FingerPrint?
It would appear it is now basically $20.00.
The trial works quite well with my Brother HL2140 printer that is connected
to my Vista Machine.  So, as long as my computer is on, if I buy the
FingerPrint license, I can print without the watermark.

Very slick,
Richard

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: wireless printer recommendations compatible with i devices and
Windows pcs

Nice find, the AirPrint installer utility mentioned at the end of the
article worked like a charm.  All of my printers now show up as AirPrint
printers on my iDevices.
Thanks.



Best,

Rick alfaro

On 12/23/2012 2:10 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Amy,

There are definitely just printers out there which are Airprint

compatible.

Here is a link I found when I googled Airprint compatible printers.
Apparently this list was updated in November 2012. I have an HP C310A
and C410A which are both multi-function and which are not listed, but
I assume that the list isn't complete and possibly focuses more on the

newer models.

In any case, it will give you a pretty big list of models from various
manufacturers which you can check out.

http://ipod.about.com/od/usingios4/f/Airprint-Compatible-Printers.htm


Good luck,
Sieghard



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