Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Brett]

Hi,

Yep, save your money, avoid the bugs and stick to the default braille 
keyboard, at least it works as advertised.


MBraille is more work than the standard keyboard to get in and out of, 
but it does have some nice features which would be nice if the app 
actually worked as advertised. for Example being able to read what you 
have written with out dismissing the keyboard and spell check as you 
type. Also being able to type basic emogies from the braille keyboard is 
also nice. However, given the cost of the app, the lack of support and 
the fact the iOS braille is now quite good and accurate, I would save 
your dollars and just learn the native braille keyboard.


Cheers,
Brett.


On 2/1/2016 8:23 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
How does it require extra work? I suppose it might if you're using it 
as a stand alone app, and you don't get any benefits out of all of 
it's features, but since it's also available as a 3rd party keyboard, 
I don't see where the extra work is.


On 31/01/16 14:44, Rajmund wrote:

Hello,
OK, thanks. Unfortunately, this defeats the purpose of MBRAILLE for 
me, since it would require additional work. Thanks for getting back, 
though. Time to go back to the default braille keyboard!


- Original Message -
From: christopher hallsworth  <challswor...@icloud.com>
To: Viphone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date: Saturday, January 30, 2016 10:32 pm
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?




No. You either type the text, then use an item in the menu or one of 
the many dot commands to send it. Alternatively, you use it as a 
third party keyboard, directly or indirectly type the text, then do 
whatever you want with it.

On 30 Jan 2016, at 22:28, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,
OK, confused. So, I've installed it, but am not getting it. Can you 
not input directly into a text input, and then send it straight?


- Original Message -
From: christopher hallsworth <challswor...@icloud.com>
To: Viphone   <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date: Thursday, January 28, 2016 7:14 pm
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?




You download the MBraille app for free, and you can  use the 
keyboard to input both contracted and uncontracted Braille and 
send your text to either Messages or Twitter. As for the third 
party keyboard, only uncontracted Braille can be used, most of the 
editing features are disabled.

On 28 Jan 2016, at 16:12, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
Can MBRAILLE be tried for free, for a certain amount of time? At 
all? For me, the default app does it just fine, but  curious 
about MBRAILLE, now.


- Original Message -
From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 9:04 pm
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?




Yes, I know that, but I don't really like that either. I think 
that MBraille is more accurate. However I am using both because 
I have to do something and it pens what I'm doing which are use.


Thanks for the idea. Already got it!

Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

On 26 Jan 2016, at 8:50 pm, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.

- Original Message -
From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 4:59 pm
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?




Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board 
keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it 
is more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, 
though, that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!


I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because 
it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other 
keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the 
rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can 
open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in 
some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is 
to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one 
of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you 
can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” 
because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't 
imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this..


If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is 
helpful! Carol P

Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

On 25 Jan 2016, at 3:37 pm, Tim Emmons <temmo...@gmail.com> wrote:

o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both 
iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input 
for the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had 
anything come close to IOS's braille input. I love it and it's 
an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's 

Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Gordan Radić]

  
  
Well, this has some sense but...
With native Braille KB I constantly have to switch the rotor between
the keyboard and he edit field to keep the eye on what I write.
Continuing on the previous, I can't edit the text using the
keyboard, I need to do it in he usual way with the standard virtual
keyboard.
And the last, native Braille keyboard doesn't support my language so
I'm not able to type specific diacritic characters plus the
punctuation and prefixes are not the same.
I use the native Braille for quick replies from the lock screen and
similar stuff but when I want to type something more complex than
that I use MBraille in app mode and use dot commands or copy paste
to enter the text where it belongs.
MBraille is quite usable in the demo mode with some workarounds and
it's not necessary to pay for it.


  S poštovanjem
Gordan Radić
  

  

  

  

  
  

  
  

  

  


  


  

  

  

1.2.2016. u 9:12, Brett je napisao/la:

Hi,
  
  
  Yep, save your money, avoid the bugs and stick to the default
  braille keyboard, at least it works as advertised.
  
  
  MBraille is more work than the standard keyboard to get in and out
  of, but it does have some nice features which would be nice if the
  app actually worked as advertised. for Example being able to read
  what you have written with out dismissing the keyboard and spell
  check as you type. Also being able to type basic emogies from the
  braille keyboard is also nice. However, given the cost of the app,
  the lack of support and the fact the iOS braille is now quite good
  and accurate, I would save your dollars and just learn the native
  braille keyboard.
  
  
  Cheers,
  
  Brett.
  
  
  
  On 2/1/2016 8:23 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
  
  How does it require extra work? I suppose
it might if you're using it as a stand alone app, and you don't
get any benefits out of all of it's features, but since it's
also available as a 3rd party keyboard, I don't see where the
extra work is.


On 31/01/16 14:44, Rajmund wrote:

Hello,
  
  OK, thanks. Unfortunately, this defeats the purpose of
  MBRAILLE for me, since it would require additional work.
  Thanks for getting back, though. Time to go back to the
  default braille keyboard!
  
  
  - Original Message -
  
  From: christopher hallsworth  <challswor...@icloud.com>
  
  To: Viphone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
  
  Date: Saturday, January 30, 2016 10:32 pm
  
      Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
  
  
  


No. You either type the text, then use an item in the menu
or one of the many dot commands to send it. Alternatively,
you use it as a third party keyboard, directly or indirectly
type the text, then do whatever you want with it.

On 30 Jan 2016, at 22:28, Rajmund
  <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
  
  
  Hello,
  
  OK, confused. So, I've installed it, but am not getting
  it. Can you not input directly into a text input, and then
  send it straight?
  
  
  - Original Message -
  
  From: christopher hallsworth
  <challswor...@icloud.com>
  
  To: Viphone   <viphone@googlegroups.com>
  
  Date: Thursday, January 28, 2016 7:14 pm
      
          Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
  
  
  


You download the MBraille app for free, and you can  use
the keyboard to input both contracted and uncontracted
Braille and send your text to either Messages or
Twitter. As for the third party keyboard, only
uncontracted Braille can be used, most of the editing
features are disabled.

On 28 Jan 2016, at 16:12,
  Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
  
  
  Hi,
  
  Can MBRAILLE be tried for free, for a certain amount
 

Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Rajmund]

Hello,
Clicked next keyboard, MBRAILLE, and there were no send buttons, etc.



Sent from an iPad

> On 31 Jan 2016, at 9:23 pm, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> How does it require extra work? I suppose it might if you're using it as a 
> stand alone app, and you don't get any benefits out of all of it's features, 
> but since it's also available as a 3rd party keyboard, I don't see where the 
> extra work is.
> 
>> On 31/01/16 14:44, Rajmund wrote:
>> Hello,
>> OK, thanks. Unfortunately, this defeats the purpose of MBRAILLE for me, 
>> since it would require additional work. Thanks for getting back, though. 
>> Time to go back to the default braille keyboard!
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: christopher hallsworth  <challswor...@icloud.com>
>> To: Viphone      <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Date: Saturday, January 30, 2016 10:32 pm
>> Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> No. You either type the text, then use an item in the menu or one of the 
>>> many dot commands to send it. Alternatively, you use it as a third party 
>>> keyboard, directly or indirectly type the text, then do whatever you want 
>>> with it.
>>>> On 30 Jan 2016, at 22:28, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> OK, confused. So, I've installed it, but am not getting it. Can you not 
>>>> input directly into a text input, and then send it straight?
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: christopher hallsworth  <challswor...@icloud.com>
>>>> To: Viphone   <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Date: Thursday, January 28, 2016 7:14 pm
>>>> Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> You download the MBraille app for free, and you can  use the keyboard to 
>>>>> input both contracted and uncontracted Braille and send your text to 
>>>>> either Messages or Twitter. As for the third party keyboard, only 
>>>>> uncontracted Braille can be used, most of the editing features are 
>>>>> disabled.
>>>>>> On 28 Jan 2016, at 16:12, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> Can MBRAILLE be tried for free, for a certain amount of time? At all? 
>>>>>> For me, the default app does it just fine, but  curious about MBRAILLE, 
>>>>>> now.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>> From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 9:04 pm
>>>>>> Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Yes, I know that, but I don't really like that either. I think that 
>>>>>>> MBraille is more accurate. However I am using both because I have to do 
>>>>>>> something and it pens what I'm doing which are use.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks for the idea. Already got it!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Carol P
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 26 Jan 2016, at 8:50 pm, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>>> From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 4:59 pm
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board 
>>>>>>>> keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more 
>>>>>>>> accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a 
>>>>>>>> user perspective and the errors could be mine!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>

Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Rajmund]

Hello,
OK, thanks. Unfortunately, this defeats the purpose of MBRAILLE for me, since 
it would require additional work. Thanks for getting back, though. Time to go 
back to the default braille keyboard!

- Original Message -
From: christopher hallsworth  <challswor...@icloud.com>
To: Viphone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date: Saturday, January 30, 2016 10:32 pm
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

>
>
> No. You either type the text, then use an item in the menu or one of the many 
> dot commands to send it. Alternatively, you use it as a third party keyboard, 
> directly or indirectly type the text, then do whatever you want with it.
> > On 30 Jan 2016, at 22:28, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > OK, confused. So, I've installed it, but am not getting it. Can you not 
> > input directly into a text input, and then send it straight?
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: christopher hallsworth  <challswor...@icloud.com>
> > To: Viphone           <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> > Date: Thursday, January 28, 2016 7:14 pm
> > Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> You download the MBraille app for free, and you can  use the keyboard to 
> >> input both contracted and uncontracted Braille and send your text to 
> >> either Messages or Twitter. As for the third party keyboard, only 
> >> uncontracted Braille can be used, most of the editing features are 
> >> disabled.
> >>> On 28 Jan 2016, at 16:12, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hi,
> >>> Can MBRAILLE be tried for free, for a certain amount of time? At all? For 
> >>> me, the default app does it just fine, but  curious about MBRAILLE, now.
> >>> 
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>> From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>> Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 9:04 pm
> >>> Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Yes, I know that, but I don't really like that either. I think that 
> >>>> MBraille is more accurate. However I am using both because I have to do 
> >>>> something and it pens what I'm doing which are use.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Thanks for the idea. Already got it!
> >>>> 
> >>>> Carol P
> >>>> Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
> >>>> 
> >>>> On 26 Jan 2016, at 8:50 pm, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.
> >>>> 
> >>>> - Original Message -
> >>>> From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >>>> Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 4:59 pm
> >>>> Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> >>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board 
> >>>>> keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more 
> >>>>> accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a 
> >>>>> user perspective and the errors could be mine!
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit 
> >>>>> tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are 
> >>>>> already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite 
> >>>>> often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and 
> >>>>> paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it 
> >>>>> better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm 
> >>>>> afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple 
> >>>>> which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” 
> >>>>> because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine 
> >>>>> becoming proficient with anything other than this.. 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is 
> >>>>> helpful! Carol P
> >>&

Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Christopher Chaltain]

How does it require extra work? I suppose it might if you're using it as 
a stand alone app, and you don't get any benefits out of all of it's 
features, but since it's also available as a 3rd party keyboard, I don't 
see where the extra work is.


On 31/01/16 14:44, Rajmund wrote:

Hello,
OK, thanks. Unfortunately, this defeats the purpose of MBRAILLE for me, since 
it would require additional work. Thanks for getting back, though. Time to go 
back to the default braille keyboard!

- Original Message -
From: christopher hallsworth  <challswor...@icloud.com>
To: Viphone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date: Saturday, January 30, 2016 10:32 pm
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?




No. You either type the text, then use an item in the menu or one of the many 
dot commands to send it. Alternatively, you use it as a third party keyboard, 
directly or indirectly type the text, then do whatever you want with it.

On 30 Jan 2016, at 22:28, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,
OK, confused. So, I've installed it, but am not getting it. Can you not input 
directly into a text input, and then send it straight?

- Original Message -
From: christopher hallsworth  <challswor...@icloud.com>
To: Viphone   <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date: Thursday, January 28, 2016 7:14 pm
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?




You download the MBraille app for free, and you can  use the keyboard to input 
both contracted and uncontracted Braille and send your text to either Messages 
or Twitter. As for the third party keyboard, only uncontracted Braille can be 
used, most of the editing features are disabled.

On 28 Jan 2016, at 16:12, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
Can MBRAILLE be tried for free, for a certain amount of time? At all? For me, 
the default app does it just fine, but  curious about MBRAILLE, now.

- Original Message -
From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 9:04 pm
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?




Yes, I know that, but I don't really like that either. I think that MBraille is 
more accurate. However I am using both because I have to do something and it 
pens what I'm doing which are use.

Thanks for the idea. Already got it!

Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

On 26 Jan 2016, at 8:50 pm, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.

- Original Message -
From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 4:59 pm
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?




Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I 
love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the 
Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the 
errors could be mine!

I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it 
in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could 
be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and 
then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! 
What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the 
disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the 
way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for 
me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this..

If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

On 25 Jan 2016, at 3:37 pm, Tim Emmons <temmo...@gmail.com> wrote:

o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. 
I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for 
Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input. I love it 
and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.

On Jan 25, 2016, at 1:23 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,
uncontracted, table top, UEB.

- Original Message -
From: Kevin Chao  <kevincha...@gmail.com>
To: viphone<viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date: Sunday, January 24, 2016 11:35 pm
Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?




Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which 
mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?

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Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Rajmund]

Hi,
Thanks, I might try, but to be fair, I'm happy with the default keyboard; just 
was hoping for something accurate,  on smaller screens.

- Original Message -
From: Arnold Schmidt  <arno...@mindspring.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, January 31, 2016 3:10 pm
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

>
>
> Although some have reported, on this list, that the following does not work 
> for them, this is the way I do it.  Assuming you have selected MBraille 
> using the next keyboard button, and have written your message, do a 
> three-finger swipe right. MBraille should put what you have written into the 
> text field, and you will be back onto the regular screen, so that you can 
> send it.  When I say swipe right,I am holding my fingers   vertically on the 
> screen, as if I am going to write dots 4-5-6,perhaps two thirds of the way 
> toward the home button.  Being that I am holding my phone in landscape, I 
> swipe toward the home button.  I hope this works for you.
> 
> Arnold Schmidt
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2...@gmail.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 5:28 PM
> Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> 
> 
> Hello,
> OK, confused. So, I've installed it, but am not getting it. Can you not 
> input directly into a text input, and then send it straight?
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: christopher hallsworth  <challswor...@icloud.com>
> To: Viphone   <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Thursday, January 28, 2016 7:14 pm
> Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> 
> >
> >
> > You download the MBraille app for free, and you can  use the keyboard to 
> > input both contracted and uncontracted Braille and send your text to 
> > either Messages or Twitter. As for the third party keyboard, only 
> > uncontracted Braille can be used, most of the editing features are 
> > disabled.
> > > On 28 Jan 2016, at 16:12, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > Can MBRAILLE be tried for free, for a certain amount of time? At all? 
> > > For me, the default app does it just fine, but  curious about MBRAILLE, 
> > > now.
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > > Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 9:04 pm
> > > Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Yes, I know that, but I don't really like that either. I think that 
> > >> MBraille is more accurate. However I am using both because I have to do 
> > >> something and it pens what I'm doing which are use.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks for the idea. Already got it!
> > >>
> > >> Carol P
> > >> Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
> > >>
> > >> On 26 Jan 2016, at 8:50 pm, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.
> > >>
> > >> - Original Message -
> > >> From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> > >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > >> Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 4:59 pm
> > >> Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board 
> > >>> keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more 
> > >>> accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a 
> > >>> user perspective and the errors could be mine!
> > >>>
> > >>> I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit 
> > >>> tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are 
> > >>> already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite 
> > >>> often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and 
> > >>> paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it 
> > >>> better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm 
> > >>> afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple 
> > >>> which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away 
> > >>> mode" ” becau

Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Arnold Schmidt]

Although some have reported, on this list, that the following does not work 
for them, this is the way I do it.  Assuming you have selected MBraille 
using the next keyboard button, and have written your message, do a 
three-finger swipe right. MBraille should put what you have written into the 
text field, and you will be back onto the regular screen, so that you can 
send it.  When I say swipe right,I am holding my fingers   vertically on the 
screen, as if I am going to write dots 4-5-6,perhaps two thirds of the way 
toward the home button.  Being that I am holding my phone in landscape, I 
swipe toward the home button.  I hope this works for you.


Arnold Schmidt
- Original Message - 
From: "Rajmund" <brajmund2...@gmail.com>

To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2016 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?


Hello,
OK, confused. So, I've installed it, but am not getting it. Can you not 
input directly into a text input, and then send it straight?


- Original Message -
From: christopher hallsworth  <challswor...@icloud.com>
To: Viphone   <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date: Thursday, January 28, 2016 7:14 pm
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?




You download the MBraille app for free, and you can  use the keyboard to 
input both contracted and uncontracted Braille and send your text to 
either Messages or Twitter. As for the third party keyboard, only 
uncontracted Braille can be used, most of the editing features are 
disabled.

> On 28 Jan 2016, at 16:12, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> Can MBRAILLE be tried for free, for a certain amount of time? At all? 
> For me, the default app does it just fine, but  curious about MBRAILLE, 
> now.

>
> - Original Message -
> From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 9:04 pm
> Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
>
>>
>>
>> Yes, I know that, but I don't really like that either. I think that 
>> MBraille is more accurate. However I am using both because I have to do 
>> something and it pens what I'm doing which are use.

>>
>> Thanks for the idea. Already got it!
>>
>> Carol P
>> Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
>>
>> On 26 Jan 2016, at 8:50 pm, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 4:59 pm
>> Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board 
>>> keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more 
>>> accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a 
>>> user perspective and the errors could be mine!

>>>
>>> I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit 
>>> tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are 
>>> already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite 
>>> often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and 
>>> paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it 
>>> better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm 
>>> afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple 
>>> which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away 
>>> mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't 
>>> imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this..

>>>
>>> If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is 
>>> helpful! Carol P

>>> Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
>>>
>>> On 25 Jan 2016, at 3:37 pm, Tim Emmons <temmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and 
>>> IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle 
>>> Fire I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's 
>>> braille input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily 
>>> basis, that's for sure.

>>>> On Jan 25, 2016, at 1:23 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>> uncontracted, table top, UEB.
>>>>
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: Kevin 

Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[christopher hallsworth]

No. You either type the text, then use an item in the menu or one of the many 
dot commands to send it. Alternatively, you use it as a third party keyboard, 
directly or indirectly type the text, then do whatever you want with it.
> On 30 Jan 2016, at 22:28, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> OK, confused. So, I've installed it, but am not getting it. Can you not input 
> directly into a text input, and then send it straight?
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: christopher hallsworth  <challswor...@icloud.com>
> To: Viphone   <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Thursday, January 28, 2016 7:14 pm
> Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> 
>> 
>> 
>> You download the MBraille app for free, and you can  use the keyboard to 
>> input both contracted and uncontracted Braille and send your text to either 
>> Messages or Twitter. As for the third party keyboard, only uncontracted 
>> Braille can be used, most of the editing features are disabled.
>>> On 28 Jan 2016, at 16:12, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Can MBRAILLE be tried for free, for a certain amount of time? At all? For 
>>> me, the default app does it just fine, but  curious about MBRAILLE, now.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -----
>>> From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 9:04 pm
>>> Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, I know that, but I don't really like that either. I think that 
>>>> MBraille is more accurate. However I am using both because I have to do 
>>>> something and it pens what I'm doing which are use.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for the idea. Already got it!
>>>> 
>>>> Carol P
>>>> Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
>>>> 
>>>> On 26 Jan 2016, at 8:50 pm, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 4:59 pm
>>>> Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. 
>>>>> I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate 
>>>>> than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user 
>>>>> perspective and the errors could be mine!
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit 
>>>>> tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are 
>>>>> already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often 
>>>>> use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste 
>>>>> accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What 
>>>>> I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is 
>>>>> one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can 
>>>>> include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's 
>>>>> the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming 
>>>>> proficient with anything other than this.. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! 
>>>>> Carol P
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 25 Jan 2016, at 3:37 pm, Tim Emmons <temmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and 
>>>>> IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire 
>>>>> I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille 
>>>>> input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, 
>>>>> that's for sure. 
>>>>>> On Jan 25, 2016, at 1:23 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> uncontracted, table top, UEB.
>>>>>>

Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Rajmund]

Hello,
OK, confused. So, I've installed it, but am not getting it. Can you not input 
directly into a text input, and then send it straight?

- Original Message -
From: christopher hallsworth  <challswor...@icloud.com>
To: Viphone   <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date: Thursday, January 28, 2016 7:14 pm
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

>
>
> You download the MBraille app for free, and you can  use the keyboard to 
> input both contracted and uncontracted Braille and send your text to either 
> Messages or Twitter. As for the third party keyboard, only uncontracted 
> Braille can be used, most of the editing features are disabled.
> > On 28 Jan 2016, at 16:12, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > Can MBRAILLE be tried for free, for a certain amount of time? At all? For 
> > me, the default app does it just fine, but  curious about MBRAILLE, now.
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 9:04 pm
> > Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Yes, I know that, but I don't really like that either. I think that 
> >> MBraille is more accurate. However I am using both because I have to do 
> >> something and it pens what I'm doing which are use.
> >> 
> >> Thanks for the idea. Already got it!
> >> 
> >> Carol P
> >> Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
> >> 
> >> On 26 Jan 2016, at 8:50 pm, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.
> >> 
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 4:59 pm
> >> Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. 
> >>> I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate 
> >>> than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user 
> >>> perspective and the errors could be mine!
> >>> 
> >>> I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit 
> >>> tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are 
> >>> already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often 
> >>> use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste 
> >>> accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What 
> >>> I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is 
> >>> one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can 
> >>> include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's 
> >>> the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming 
> >>> proficient with anything other than this.. 
> >>> 
> >>> If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! 
> >>> Carol P
> >>> Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
> >>> 
> >>> On 25 Jan 2016, at 3:37 pm, Tim Emmons <temmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and 
> >>> IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire 
> >>> I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille 
> >>> input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, 
> >>> that's for sure. 
> >>>> On Jan 25, 2016, at 1:23 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> Hello,
> >>>> uncontracted, table top, UEB.
> >>>> 
> >>>> - Original Message -
> >>>> From: Kevin Chao  <kevincha...@gmail.com>
> >>>> To: viphone<viphone@googlegroups.com>
> >>>> Date: Sunday, January 24, 2016 11:35 pm
> >>>> Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> >>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which 
> >>>>> mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?
> >>>>&

Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

Cheryl
Rejoice always! Pray continually. Give thanks in everything,
for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
HCSB

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 26, 2016, at 2:50 AM, Brett <brettst...@gmail.com 
<mailto:brettst...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Wow! I am so glad your MBraille experience is different to mine. I 
bought it before iOS braille was introduced and as a standalone app 
it works well and does have more editing features than iOS braille, 
but as a third-party keyboard, it is the buggiest program I have 
purchased. There is absolutely no support from the author at all.


For me the three finger swipe right to dismiss the MBraille 
keyboard never works. This is replicatable 100 percent of the time. 
Seriously, if your intrested in braille, learn to use the iOS 
keyboard and don't waist your money on purchasing bugs. I have 
received better support from apps that were free.


Cheers, Brett.


Sent from Brett's iPhone

On 26 Jan 2016, at 6:34 PM, 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
<viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote:


keep seeing a lot of flack on the mBraille list about  how flaky 
some of this is,  but I took to it and would prefer this method of
working  than any other. I haven't bought the feature you 
describe, but worked pretty well the last time I tried it,  which 
is a
hwile ago now.  But I'm still on their list and  I suppose there's 
no more flack there, than here about the rest of iOs.


R.
- Original Message -
From: "Arnold Schmidt" <arno...@mindspring.com 
<mailto:arno...@mindspring.com>>

To: <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 12:23 AM
Subject: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille 
Screen Input?



I already had MBraille before the Apple Braille keyboard was 
released, so I have not taken the time to learn to use the Apple
keyboard very well.  I find it to be not quite as refined as is 
MBraille, although that very well could be due to operator
incompetence.Also, it does not have the word processing 
ability of MBraille.  If I want to edit anything, I have to use the
regular Apple keyboard editing features, which are not as easy for 
me to use as those in MBraille.


A few months ago, I purchased the option to use MBraille as a 
third-party keyboard.  At the time, it didn't seem to work very well
for me as a third-party keyboard, so I forgot about it until last 
weekend when, for some reason which I do not remember now, I
decided to try it again.  I deleted that emogey  keyboard which I 
never used, and enabled MBraille as a third-party keyboard.  It
works well. Now, when I am in a text field, I can tap the next 
keyboard button, and although the transition to MBraille is
occasionally a bit flakey, more often than not, it goes right into 
MBraille.  I write my text, am enable to correct any errors or do
any word processing I wish to do with MBraille. Then, I Place my 
fingers onto the keyboard as if I were going to write dots 4-5-6,
and do a three-finger swipe right (being in landscape mode, I mean 
a three-finger swipe toward the home button.)  It then inserts my
text into the text field, and I am back in the regular keyboard. 
 No more copying and pasting.


Arnold Schmidt
- Original Message -
From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?


Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board 
keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is
more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, 
that is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!


I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a 
bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other
keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the 
rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open
the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways 
it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper
key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the 
disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include 
on the
rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" " because it's the only 
thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient

with anything other than this.

If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is 
helpful! Carol P

Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

On 25 Jan 2016, at 3:37 pm, Tim Emmons <temmo...@gmail.com 
<mailto:temmo...@gmail.com>> wrote:



o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad 
and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for
the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven’t had anything come 
close to IOS’s braille input. I love it and it’s an inva

Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[christopher hallsworth]

I answered the question on what one gets if they just use the mBraille as is, 
i.e. not paid for any features the "full" or "pro" offers. In case you didn't 
get the original thread, here it is, pasted below.

"Can MBRAILLE be tried for free, for a certain amount of time? At all? For me, 
the default app does it just fine, but  curious about MBRAILLE, now."


> On 28 Jan 2016, at 21:13, 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Chris,
> 
> Why are you suggesting here that the Third Party keyboard only works with 
> uncontracted Braille? Not in my house! 
> 
> I am sure, if you upgrade but don't pay for that Third Party keyboard, or 
> maybe you don't allow all options, it may not work but, if you do, it does - 
> for me anyway.
> 
> I'd be interested to know why it doesn't work for you.
> 
> Carol P
> 
> On 28/01/2016 19:05, christopher hallsworth wrote:
>> You download the MBraille app for free, and you can  use the keyboard to 
>> input both contracted and uncontracted Braille and send your text to either 
>> Messages or Twitter. As for the third party keyboard, only uncontracted 
>> Braille can be used, most of the editing features are disabled.
>>> On 28 Jan 2016, at 16:12, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Can MBRAILLE be tried for free, for a certain amount of time? At all? For 
>>> me, the default app does it just fine, but  curious about MBRAILLE, now.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -----
>>> From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 9:04 pm
>>> Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, I know that, but I don't really like that either. I think that 
>>>> MBraille is more accurate. However I am using both because I have to do 
>>>> something and it pens what I'm doing which are use.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for the idea. Already got it!
>>>> 
>>>> Carol P
>>>> Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
>>>> 
>>>> On 26 Jan 2016, at 8:50 pm, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 4:59 pm
>>>> Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. 
>>>>> I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate 
>>>>> than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user 
>>>>> perspective and the errors could be mine!
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit 
>>>>> tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are 
>>>>> already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often 
>>>>> use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste 
>>>>> accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What 
>>>>> I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is 
>>>>> one of the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can 
>>>>> include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's 
>>>>> the only thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming 
>>>>> proficient with anything other than this..
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! 
>>>>> Carol P
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 25 Jan 2016, at 3:37 pm, Tim Emmons <temmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and 
>>>>> IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire 
>>>>> I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille 
>>>>> input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, 
>>>>> that's for sure.
>>>>>> On Jan 25, 2016, at 1:23 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2..

Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Rajmund]

Hello Paul,
No, braille screen input is direct touch. If you touch a key combination, that 
is entered, in other words. If you use a braille display, unless I'm terribly 
wrong, I don't believe you have to calibrate that, but I'm not sure, as I never 
use a display, I just find it too tedious.

- Original Message -
From: Paul Hunt  <prhu...@att.net>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 9:10 pm
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

>
>
> Hello Rajmund. I use an IPhone 6S. I'm using it with a Brailliant BI 40 
> Braille display. I want to recalibrate it. Are the standard, touch typing and 
> the direct touch typing modes available when using the braille screen input 
> feature?
> 
> > On Jan 26, 2016, at 12:42 PM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > Its a practise and error. To calibrate, we will need your device first, in  
> > order to give the right command. Its different on both my iPad and phone. 
> > Typing modes, do you mean braille codes, or typing modes?
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Paul Hunt  <prhu...@att.net>
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 12:46 pm
> > Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Hello everybody.
> >> I've tried it and haven't been very successful. Here are my questions.
> >> 1. How do I recalibrate?
> >> 2. What typing modes are available in the braille screen input mode?
> >> 3. What techniques helped you to become proficient? Thanks so much. 
> >> 
> >>> On Jan 25, 2016, at 1:23 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hello,
> >>> uncontracted, table top, UEB.
> >>> 
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>> From: Kevin Chao  <kevincha...@gmail.com>
> >>> To: viphone<viphone@googlegroups.com>
> >>> Date: Sunday, January 24, 2016 11:35 pm
> >>> Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which 
> >>>> mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?
> >>>> 
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RE: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[rubyalphonse]

Hi Rob, and all,  I downloaded mBraille, but I don't know how to use this. I 
went to the podcast where Shawn has uploaded the demonstration of  this 
mBraille, but it is no more awailable. Please can you help? Any help is 
appreciated. Thanks, Ruby

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: 28 January 2016 16:09
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

mBraille is worth checking how he writes it.
Check how I wrote it,  that seems to work.
- Original Message - 
From: "rubyalphonse" <rubyalpho...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 8:40 AM
Subject: RE: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?


Hi all is M Braille a podcast thing? How do I get to buy? Here on app store, it 
says that M Braille is a podcast thing, and when I 
type IOS Braille I get MBraille  can anyone help? I appreciate your help. Ruby

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rajmund
Sent: 28 January 2016 00:34
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

 Hi,
It works on the 5s, at least I like it on mine. Not as comfortable as the iPad, 
but hey, it does what it is supposed to.

- Original Message -
From: christopher hallsworth  <challswor...@icloud.com>
To: Viphone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 7:05 pm
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

>
>
> Same here. Too cramped on an iPhone or iPod Touch. Who knows if I get a 
> bigger iPhone, not very likely but hey, I may start 
> brailling on it more.
> > On 25 Jan 2016, at 16:36, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> > Well said. I still double tap on the iPhone, but its because its kinda 
> > small, I always braille  on the iPad.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Brett  <brettst...@gmail.com>
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:17 am
> > Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> I do, almost exclusively. I always use it in away mode. I only use the 
> >> native keyboard when I have to go one handed. For 
> >> Example, texting when walking around with my cane in the other hand.
> >>
> >> iOS braille is so much faster for me and I get much less errors.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Brett.
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from Brett's iPhone
> >>
> >>> On 25 Jan 2016, at 10:35 AM, Kevin Chao <kevincha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which 
> >>> mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?
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Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Rajmund]

 Hi, LOL, neither would I. A braille terminal and a braille display will never 
get close to a all in 1 device, no matter whether virtual or physical keyboards.

- Original Message -
From: Tim Emmons  <temmo...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 7:54 pm
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

>
>
> That's what's keeping me where I'm at. Lol. I have the Kindle Fire but that's 
> the closest to any Android I'm gonna cut it at this point.  Lol. Love the 
> braille input and wouldn't trade it for anything. 
> > On Jan 26, 2016, at 1:50 PM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > Don't think there's any, hence I'm not even considering android. :)
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Tim Emmons  <temmo...@gmail.com>
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 3:37 pm
> > Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and 
> >> IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I 
> >> got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille 
> >> input.. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, 
> >> that's for sure. 
> >>> On Jan 25, 2016, at 1:23 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hello,
> >>> uncontracted, table top, UEB.
> >>> 
> >>> - Original Message -
> >>> From: Kevin Chao  <kevincha...@gmail.com>
> >>> To: viphone<viphone@googlegroups.com>
> >>> Date: Sunday, January 24, 2016 11:35 pm
> >>> Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> >>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which 
> >>>> mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?
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Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Rajmund]

 Hi,
Can MBRAILLE be tried for free, for a certain amount of time? At all? For me, 
the default app does it just fine, but  curious about MBRAILLE, now.

- Original Message -
From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 9:04 pm
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

>
>
> Yes, I know that, but I don't really like that either. I think that MBraille 
> is more accurate. However I am using both because I have to do something and 
> it pens what I'm doing which are use.
> 
> Thanks for the idea. Already got it!
> 
> Carol P
> Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
> 
> On 26 Jan 2016, at 8:50 pm, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 4:59 pm
> Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I 
> > love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than 
> > the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and 
> > the errors could be mine!
> > 
> > I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit 
> > tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are 
> > already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often 
> > use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste 
> > accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I 
> > do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of 
> > the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on 
> > the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing 
> > that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything 
> > other than this.. 
> > 
> > If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! 
> > Carol P
> > Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
> > 
> > On 25 Jan 2016, at 3:37 pm, Tim Emmons <temmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and 
> > IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I 
> > got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille 
> > input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, 
> > that's for sure. 
> >> On Jan 25, 2016, at 1:23 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Hello,
> >> uncontracted, table top, UEB.
> >> 
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: Kevin Chao  <kevincha...@gmail.com>
> >> To: viphone<viphone@googlegroups.com>
> >> Date: Sunday, January 24, 2016 11:35 pm
> >> Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which 
> >>> mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?
> >>> 
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Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[christopher hallsworth]

You download the MBraille app for free, and you can  use the keyboard to input 
both contracted and uncontracted Braille and send your text to either Messages 
or Twitter. As for the third party keyboard, only uncontracted Braille can be 
used, most of the editing features are disabled.
> On 28 Jan 2016, at 16:12, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Can MBRAILLE be tried for free, for a certain amount of time? At all? For me, 
> the default app does it just fine, but  curious about MBRAILLE, now.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 9:04 pm
> Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Yes, I know that, but I don't really like that either. I think that MBraille 
>> is more accurate. However I am using both because I have to do something and 
>> it pens what I'm doing which are use.
>> 
>> Thanks for the idea. Already got it!
>> 
>> Carol P
>> Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
>> 
>> On 26 Jan 2016, at 8:50 pm, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 4:59 pm
>> Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I 
>>> love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than 
>>> the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and 
>>> the errors could be mine!
>>> 
>>> I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit 
>>> tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are 
>>> already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often 
>>> use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste 
>>> accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I 
>>> do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of 
>>> the disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on 
>>> the rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing 
>>> that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything 
>>> other than this.. 
>>> 
>>> If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! 
>>> Carol P
>>> Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
>>> 
>>> On 25 Jan 2016, at 3:37 pm, Tim Emmons <temmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and 
>>> IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I 
>>> got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille 
>>> input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, 
>>> that's for sure. 
>>>> On Jan 25, 2016, at 1:23 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> uncontracted, table top, UEB.
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: Kevin Chao  <kevincha...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: viphone<viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Date: Sunday, January 24, 2016 11:35 pm
>>>> Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which 
>>>>> mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?
>>>>> 
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Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

Chris,

Why are you suggesting here that the Third Party keyboard only works 
with uncontracted Braille? Not in my house! 


I am sure, if you upgrade but don't pay for that Third Party keyboard, 
or maybe you don't allow all options, it may not work but, if you do, it 
does - for me anyway.


I'd be interested to know why it doesn't work for you.

Carol P

On 28/01/2016 19:05, christopher hallsworth wrote:

You download the MBraille app for free, and you can  use the keyboard to input 
both contracted and uncontracted Braille and send your text to either Messages 
or Twitter. As for the third party keyboard, only uncontracted Braille can be 
used, most of the editing features are disabled.

On 28 Jan 2016, at 16:12, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
Can MBRAILLE be tried for free, for a certain amount of time? At all? For me, 
the default app does it just fine, but  curious about MBRAILLE, now.

- Original Message -
From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 9:04 pm
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?



Yes, I know that, but I don't really like that either. I think that MBraille is 
more accurate. However I am using both because I have to do something and it 
pens what I'm doing which are use.

Thanks for the idea. Already got it!

Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

On 26 Jan 2016, at 8:50 pm, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.

- Original Message -
From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 4:59 pm
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?



Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I 
love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the 
Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the 
errors could be mine!

I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it 
in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could 
be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and 
then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it better! 
What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the 
disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the 
way, I use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for 
me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this..

If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

On 25 Jan 2016, at 3:37 pm, Tim Emmons <temmo...@gmail.com> wrote:

o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. 
I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for 
Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input. I love it 
and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.

On Jan 25, 2016, at 1:23 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,
uncontracted, table top, UEB.

- Original Message -
From: Kevin Chao  <kevincha...@gmail.com>
To: viphone<viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date: Sunday, January 24, 2016 11:35 pm
Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?



Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which 
mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?

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Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

e flack there, than here about the rest of iOs.


R.
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From: "Arnold Schmidt" <arno...@mindspring.com 
<mailto:arno...@mindspring.com>>

To: <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 12:23 AM
Subject: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen 
Input?



I already had MBraille before the Apple Braille keyboard was 
released, so I have not taken the time to learn to use the Apple
keyboard very well.  I find it to be not quite as refined as is 
MBraille, although that very well could be due to operator
incompetence.Also, it does not have the word processing ability 
of MBraille.  If I want to edit anything, I have to use the
regular Apple keyboard editing features, which are not as easy for 
me to use as those in MBraille.


A few months ago, I purchased the option to use MBraille as a 
third-party keyboard.  At the time, it didn't seem to work very well
for me as a third-party keyboard, so I forgot about it until last 
weekend when, for some reason which I do not remember now, I
decided to try it again.  I deleted that emogey  keyboard which I 
never used, and enabled MBraille as a third-party keyboard.  It
works well. Now, when I am in a text field, I can tap the next 
keyboard button, and although the transition to MBraille is
occasionally a bit flakey, more often than not, it goes right into 
MBraille.  I write my text, am enable to correct any errors or do
any word processing I wish to do with MBraille. Then, I Place my 
fingers onto the keyboard as if I were going to write dots 4-5-6,
and do a three-finger swipe right (being in landscape mode, I mean a 
three-finger swipe toward the home button.)  It then inserts my
text into the text field, and I am back in the regular keyboard.  No 
more copying and pasting.


Arnold Schmidt
- Original Message -
From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?


Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board 
keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is
more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that 
is a user perspective and the errors could be mine!


I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a 
bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other
keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the 
rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open
the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it 
is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper
key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the 
disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on 
the
rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" " because it's the only 
thing that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient

with anything other than this.

If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is 
helpful! Carol P

Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

On 25 Jan 2016, at 3:37 pm, Tim Emmons <temmo...@gmail.com 
<mailto:temmo...@gmail.com>> wrote:



o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad 
and IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for
the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven’t had anything come 
close to IOS’s braille input. I love it and it’s an invaluable

tool for me on a daily basis, that’s for sure.

  On Jan 25, 2016, at 1:23 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com 
<mailto:brajmund2...@gmail.com>> wrote:




  Hello,

  uncontracted, table top, UEB.



  - Original Message -

  From: Kevin Chao  <kevincha...@gmail.com 
<mailto:kevincha...@gmail.com>>


  To: viphone<viphone@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>


  Date: Sunday, January 24, 2016 11:35 pm

  Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?







Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in 
which mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?




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Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Rajmund]

Hello,
Its still not built in like for IOS, though. For some of us, while we're new, a 
braille keyboard is a miracle. It sure was for me. With android, I would have 
had no choice, but to go app hunting the very first day. 

- Original Message -
From: Christopher Chaltain  <chalt...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 2:22 am
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

>
>
> Not sure why misinformation about Android crept into this thread, but 
> there are virtual braille keyboards for Android, including MBraille. 
> Just from Googling, there's another one called the Super Braille 
> Keyboard. I'm not trying to talk anyone into trying or considering 
> Android; I'm just trying to make sure these incorrect assumptions don't 
> get spread any further.
> 
> On 26/01/16 13:54, Tim Emmons wrote:
> > That's what's keeping me where I'm at. Lol. I have the Kindle Fire but 
> > that's the closest to any Android I'm gonna cut it at this point.  Lol. 
> > Love the braille input and wouldn't trade it for anything.
> >> On Jan 26, 2016, at 1:50 PM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >> Don't think there's any, hence I'm not even considering android. :)
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: Tim Emmons  <temmo...@gmail.com>
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 3:37 pm
> >> Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> >>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and 
> >>> IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire 
> >>> I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille 
> >>> input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, 
> >>> that's for sure.
> >>>> On Jan 25, 2016, at 1:23 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hello,
> >>>> uncontracted, table top, UEB.
> >>>>
> >>>> - Original Message -
> >>>> From: Kevin Chao  <kevincha...@gmail.com>
> >>>> To: viphone<viphone@googlegroups.com>
> >>>> Date: Sunday, January 24, 2016 11:35 pm
> >>>> Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which 
> >>>>> mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?
> >>>>>
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Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Cheryl Lenartiene]

eyboard, and 
>> not just in its standalone form.
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> 
>> Cheryl
>> Rejoice always! Pray continually. Give thanks in everything,
>> for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
>> 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
>> HCSB
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jan 26, 2016, at 2:50 AM, Brett <brettst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Wow! I am so glad your MBraille experience is different to mine. I bought 
>>> it before iOS braille was introduced and as a standalone app it works well 
>>> and does have more editing features than iOS braille, but as a third-party 
>>> keyboard, it is the buggiest program I have purchased. There is absolutely 
>>> no support from the author at all. 
>>> 
>>> For me the three finger swipe right to dismiss the MBraille keyboard never 
>>> works. This is replicatable 100 percent of the time. Seriously, if your 
>>> intrested in braille, learn to use the iOS keyboard and don't waist your 
>>> money on purchasing bugs. I have received better support from apps that 
>>> were free. 
>>> 
>>> Cheers, Brett. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from Brett's iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On 26 Jan 2016, at 6:34 PM, 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
>>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>> keep seeing a lot of flack on the mBraille list about  how flaky some of 
>>>> this is,  but I took to it and would prefer this method of
>>>> working  than any other. I haven't bought the feature you describe, but 
>>>> worked pretty well the last time I tried it,  which is a
>>>> hwile ago now.  But I'm still on their list and  I suppose there's no more 
>>>> flack there, than here about the rest of iOs.
>>>> R.
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "Arnold Schmidt" <arno...@mindspring.com>
>>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 12:23 AM
>>>> Subject: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
>>>> I already had MBraille before the Apple Braille keyboard was released, so 
>>>> I have not taken the time to learn to use the Apple
>>>> keyboard very well.  I find it to be not quite as refined as is MBraille, 
>>>> although that very well could be due to operator
>>>> incompetence.Also, it does not have the word processing ability of 
>>>> MBraille.  If I want to edit anything, I have to use the
>>>> regular Apple keyboard editing features, which are not as easy for me to 
>>>> use as those in MBraille.
>>>> A few months ago, I purchased the option to use MBraille as a third-party 
>>>> keyboard.  At the time, it didn't seem to work very well
>>>> for me as a third-party keyboard, so I forgot about it until last weekend 
>>>> when, for some reason which I do not remember now, I
>>>> decided to try it again.  I deleted that emogey  keyboard which I never 
>>>> used, and enabled MBraille as a third-party keyboard.  It
>>>> works well. Now, when I am in a text field, I can tap the next keyboard 
>>>> button, and although the transition to MBraille is
>>>> occasionally a bit flakey, more often than not, it goes right into 
>>>> MBraille.  I write my text, am enable to correct any errors or do
>>>> any word processing I wish to do with MBraille. Then, I Place my fingers 
>>>> onto the keyboard as if I were going to write dots 4-5-6,
>>>> and do a three-finger swipe right (being in landscape mode, I mean a 
>>>> three-finger swipe toward the home button.)  It then inserts my
>>>> text into the text field, and I am back in the regular keyboard.  No more 
>>>> copying and pasting.
>>>> Arnold Schmidt
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 11:59 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
>>>> Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. 
>>>> I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is
>>>> more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a 
>>>> user perspective and the errors could be mine!
>>>> I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit 
>>>> tricky to use it in this way, because of the other
>>>> keyb

Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Devin Prater]

I use braille screen input, but more for messaging and emailing when I'm on the 
go and don't have my keyboard, which I yep faster on. I don't, however, use 
braille screen input for MudRammer or anything like that where text has to 
sometimes be quickly entered and sent.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 28, 2016, at 5:32 PM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Its still not built in like for IOS, though. For some of us, while we're new, 
> a braille keyboard is a miracle. It sure was for me. With android, I would 
> have had no choice, but to go app hunting the very first day. 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Christopher Chaltain  <chalt...@gmail.com>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 2:22 am
> Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Not sure why misinformation about Android crept into this thread, but 
>> there are virtual braille keyboards for Android, including MBraille. 
>> Just from Googling, there's another one called the Super Braille 
>> Keyboard. I'm not trying to talk anyone into trying or considering 
>> Android; I'm just trying to make sure these incorrect assumptions don't 
>> get spread any further.
>> 
>>> On 26/01/16 13:54, Tim Emmons wrote:
>>> That's what's keeping me where I'm at. Lol. I have the Kindle Fire but 
>>> that's the closest to any Android I'm gonna cut it at this point.  Lol. 
>>> Love the braille input and wouldn't trade it for anything.
>>>> On Jan 26, 2016, at 1:50 PM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello,
>>>> Don't think there's any, hence I'm not even considering android. :)
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: Tim Emmons  <temmo...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 3:37 pm
>>>> Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and 
>>>>> IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire 
>>>>> I got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille 
>>>>> input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, 
>>>>> that's for sure.
>>>>>> On Jan 25, 2016, at 1:23 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> uncontracted, table top, UEB.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>> From: Kevin Chao  <kevincha...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: viphone<viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>> Date: Sunday, January 24, 2016 11:35 pm
>>>>>> Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which 
>>>>>>> mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?
>>>>>>> 
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RE: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[rubyalphonse]

Hi all is M Braille a podcast thing? How do I get to buy? Here on app store, it 
says that M Braille is a podcast thing, and when I type IOS Braille I get 
MBraille  can anyone help? I appreciate your help. Ruby

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rajmund
Sent: 28 January 2016 00:34
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

 Hi,
It works on the 5s, at least I like it on mine. Not as comfortable as the iPad, 
but hey, it does what it is supposed to.

- Original Message -
From: christopher hallsworth  <challswor...@icloud.com>
To: Viphone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 7:05 pm
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

>
>
> Same here. Too cramped on an iPhone or iPod Touch. Who knows if I get a 
> bigger iPhone, not very likely but hey, I may start brailling on it more.
> > On 25 Jan 2016, at 16:36, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > Well said. I still double tap on the iPhone, but its because its kinda 
> > small, I always braille  on the iPad.
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Brett  <brettst...@gmail.com>
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:17 am
> > Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I do, almost exclusively. I always use it in away mode. I only use the 
> >> native keyboard when I have to go one handed. For Example, texting when 
> >> walking around with my cane in the other hand. 
> >> 
> >> iOS braille is so much faster for me and I get much less errors. 
> >> 
> >> Cheers, 
> >> Brett. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Sent from Brett's iPhone
> >> 
> >>> On 25 Jan 2016, at 10:35 AM, Kevin Chao <kevincha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which 
> >>> mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?
> >>> 
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Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

mBraille is by mPaja, notice the lower case m prefix in both cases,  like the 
lower case i in iOs and related Apple things.

- Original Message - 
From: "rubyalphonse" <rubyalpho...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 8:40 AM
Subject: RE: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?


Hi all is M Braille a podcast thing? How do I get to buy? Here on app store, it 
says that M Braille is a podcast thing, and when I 
type IOS Braille I get MBraille  can anyone help? I appreciate your help. Ruby

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rajmund
Sent: 28 January 2016 00:34
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

 Hi,
It works on the 5s, at least I like it on mine. Not as comfortable as the iPad, 
but hey, it does what it is supposed to.

- Original Message -
From: christopher hallsworth  <challswor...@icloud.com>
To: Viphone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 7:05 pm
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

>
>
> Same here. Too cramped on an iPhone or iPod Touch. Who knows if I get a 
> bigger iPhone, not very likely but hey, I may start 
> brailling on it more.
> > On 25 Jan 2016, at 16:36, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> > Well said. I still double tap on the iPhone, but its because its kinda 
> > small, I always braille  on the iPad.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Brett  <brettst...@gmail.com>
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:17 am
> > Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> I do, almost exclusively. I always use it in away mode. I only use the 
> >> native keyboard when I have to go one handed. For 
> >> Example, texting when walking around with my cane in the other hand.
> >>
> >> iOS braille is so much faster for me and I get much less errors.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Brett.
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from Brett's iPhone
> >>
> >>> On 25 Jan 2016, at 10:35 AM, Kevin Chao <kevincha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which 
> >>> mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?
> >>>
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Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

mBraille is worth checking how he writes it.
Check how I wrote it,  that seems to work.
- Original Message - 
From: "rubyalphonse" <rubyalpho...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 8:40 AM
Subject: RE: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?


Hi all is M Braille a podcast thing? How do I get to buy? Here on app store, it 
says that M Braille is a podcast thing, and when I 
type IOS Braille I get MBraille  can anyone help? I appreciate your help. Ruby

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rajmund
Sent: 28 January 2016 00:34
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

 Hi,
It works on the 5s, at least I like it on mine. Not as comfortable as the iPad, 
but hey, it does what it is supposed to.

- Original Message -
From: christopher hallsworth  <challswor...@icloud.com>
To: Viphone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 7:05 pm
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

>
>
> Same here. Too cramped on an iPhone or iPod Touch. Who knows if I get a 
> bigger iPhone, not very likely but hey, I may start 
> brailling on it more.
> > On 25 Jan 2016, at 16:36, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> > Well said. I still double tap on the iPhone, but its because its kinda 
> > small, I always braille  on the iPad.
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Brett  <brettst...@gmail.com>
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:17 am
> > Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> I do, almost exclusively. I always use it in away mode. I only use the 
> >> native keyboard when I have to go one handed. For 
> >> Example, texting when walking around with my cane in the other hand.
> >>
> >> iOS braille is so much faster for me and I get much less errors.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Brett.
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from Brett's iPhone
> >>
> >>> On 25 Jan 2016, at 10:35 AM, Kevin Chao <kevincha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which 
> >>> mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?
> >>>
> >>> -- 
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Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Rajmund]

Hi,
It does. Flick  2 fingers to the right.

- Original Message -
From: paras shah  <parasha...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 6:21 am
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

>
>
> Yes, braille screen input is a great feature. There are some places where it 
> does not work. If you are in a multi-line edit field it will not let you go 
> to the next line. For the most part, I use it as my input method.
> It is great for writing short emails.
> Thanks! 
> 
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 7:26 PM Jennie Facer <jennie.fa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I use it on a daily basis. The only problem I find when using it is in 
> iMessages. Whenever I tilt the phone to go into away mode, it thinks I want 
> to record a message. Any thoughts on how to get rid of this?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jennie Facer
> 
> > On Jan 24, 2016, at 4:35 PM, Kevin Chao <kevincha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which 
> > mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?
> >
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Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Cheryl Lenartiene]

oard, it is the buggiest program I have purchased. There is absolutely 
>>> no support from the author at all. 
>>> 
>>> For me the three finger swipe right to dismiss the MBraille keyboard never 
>>> works. This is replicatable 100 percent of the time. Seriously, if your 
>>> intrested in braille, learn to use the iOS keyboard and don't waist your 
>>> money on purchasing bugs. I have received better support from apps that 
>>> were free. 
>>> 
>>> Cheers, Brett. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from Brett's iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On 26 Jan 2016, at 6:34 PM, 'RobH.' via VIPhone 
>>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>> keep seeing a lot of flack on the mBraille list about  how flaky some of 
>>>> this is,  but I took to it and would prefer this method of
>>>> working  than any other. I haven't bought the feature you describe, but 
>>>> worked pretty well the last time I tried it,  which is a
>>>> hwile ago now.  But I'm still on their list and  I suppose there's no more 
>>>> flack there, than here about the rest of iOs.
>>>> R.
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: "Arnold Schmidt" <arno...@mindspring.com>
>>>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 12:23 AM
>>>> Subject: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
>>>> I already had MBraille before the Apple Braille keyboard was released, so 
>>>> I have not taken the time to learn to use the Apple
>>>> keyboard very well.  I find it to be not quite as refined as is MBraille, 
>>>> although that very well could be due to operator
>>>> incompetence.Also, it does not have the word processing ability of 
>>>> MBraille.  If I want to edit anything, I have to use the
>>>> regular Apple keyboard editing features, which are not as easy for me to 
>>>> use as those in MBraille.
>>>> A few months ago, I purchased the option to use MBraille as a third-party 
>>>> keyboard.  At the time, it didn't seem to work very well
>>>> for me as a third-party keyboard, so I forgot about it until last weekend 
>>>> when, for some reason which I do not remember now, I
>>>> decided to try it again.  I deleted that emogey  keyboard which I never 
>>>> used, and enabled MBraille as a third-party keyboard.  It
>>>> works well. Now, when I am in a text field, I can tap the next keyboard 
>>>> button, and although the transition to MBraille is
>>>> occasionally a bit flakey, more often than not, it goes right into 
>>>> MBraille.  I write my text, am enable to correct any errors or do
>>>> any word processing I wish to do with MBraille. Then, I Place my fingers 
>>>> onto the keyboard as if I were going to write dots 4-5-6,
>>>> and do a three-finger swipe right (being in landscape mode, I mean a 
>>>> three-finger swipe toward the home button.)  It then inserts my
>>>> text into the text field, and I am back in the regular keyboard.  No more 
>>>> copying and pasting.
>>>> Arnold Schmidt
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 11:59 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
>>>> Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. 
>>>> I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is
>>>> more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a 
>>>> user perspective and the errors could be mine!
>>>> I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit 
>>>> tricky to use it in this way, because of the other
>>>> keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! 
>>>> Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open
>>>> the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is 
>>>> easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper
>>>> key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of 
>>>> the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the
>>>> rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" " because it's the only thing 
>>>> that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient
>>>> with anything other t

Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Rajmund]

 Hi,
It works on the 5s, at least I like it on mine. Not as comfortable as the iPad, 
but hey, it does what it is supposed to.

- Original Message -
From: christopher hallsworth  <challswor...@icloud.com>
To: Viphone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 7:05 pm
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

>
>
> Same here. Too cramped on an iPhone or iPod Touch. Who knows if I get a 
> bigger iPhone, not very likely but hey, I may start brailling on it more.
> > On 25 Jan 2016, at 16:36, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > Well said. I still double tap on the iPhone, but its because its kinda 
> > small, I always braille  on the iPad.
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Brett  <brettst...@gmail.com>
> > To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> > Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:17 am
> > Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> I do, almost exclusively. I always use it in away mode. I only use the 
> >> native keyboard when I have to go one handed. For Example, texting when 
> >> walking around with my cane in the other hand. 
> >> 
> >> iOS braille is so much faster for me and I get much less errors. 
> >> 
> >> Cheers, 
> >> Brett. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Sent from Brett's iPhone
> >> 
> >>> On 25 Jan 2016, at 10:35 AM, Kevin Chao <kevincha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which 
> >>> mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?
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Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Gordan Radić]

seeing a lot of flack on
  the mBraille list about  how flaky some of this is,  but I
  took to it and would prefer this method of 
  
  working  than any other. I
  haven't bought the feature you describe, but worked pretty
  well the last time I tried it,  which is a 
  
  hwile ago now.  But I'm still on
  their list and  I suppose there's no more flack there,
  than here about the rest of iOs.
  
  
  
  R.
  
  - Original Message - 
  
  From: "Arnold Schmidt" <arno...@mindspring.com>
  
  To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
  
  Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016
  12:23 AM
  
  Subject: MBraille Suggestion,
          was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
  
  
  
  
  
  I already had MBraille before
  the Apple Braille keyboard was released, so I have not
  taken the time to learn to use the Apple 
  
  keyboard very well.  I find it
  to be not quite as refined as is MBraille, although that
  very well could be due to operator 
  
  incompetence.    Also, it does
  not have the word processing ability of MBraille.  If I
  want to edit anything, I have to use the 
  
  regular Apple keyboard editing
  features, which are not as easy for me to use as those in
  MBraille.
  
  
  
  A few months ago, I purchased
  the option to use MBraille as a third-party keyboard.  At
  the time, it didn't seem to work very well 
  
  for me as a third-party
  keyboard, so I forgot about it until last weekend when,
  for some reason which I do not remember now, I 
  
  decided to try it again.  I
  deleted that emogey  keyboard which I never used, and
  enabled MBraille as a third-party keyboard.  It 
  
  works well. Now, when I am in a
  text field, I can tap the next keyboard button, and
  although the transition to MBraille is 
  
  occasionally a bit flakey, more
  often than not, it goes right into MBraille.  I write my
  text, am enable to correct any errors or do 
  
  any word processing I wish to do
  with MBraille. Then, I Place my fingers onto the keyboard
  as if I were going to write dots 4-5-6, 
  
  and do a three-finger swipe
  right (being in landscape mode, I mean a three-finger
  swipe toward the home button.)  It then inserts my 
  
  text into the text field, and I
  am back in the regular keyboard.  No more copying and
  pasting.
  
  
  
  Arnold Schmidt
  
   - Original Message - 
  
   From: 'Carol Pearson' via
  VIPhone
  
   To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  
   Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016
  11:59 AM
      
       Subject: Re: How many use VO
  Braille Screen Input?
  
  
  
  
  
   Yes, I do use both the MBraille
  and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I love MBraille
  a lot, in fact most days. I think it is 
  
  more accurate than the Apple
  on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user
  perspective and the errors could be mine!
  
  
  
   I am not too keen on using it
  as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky to use it
  in this way, because of the other 
  
  keyboards that are already
  installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I
  quite often use the old method too, so I can open 
  
  the app and then cut and paste
  accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like
  it better! What I do like is to have proper 
  
  key clicks when typing. I'm
  afraid this is one of the disappointments of the Braille
  app by Apple which you can include on the 
  
  rotor. By the way, I use the
  "away mode" " because it's the only thing that really
  works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient 
  
  with anything other than this.
  
  
  
   If you have any further
  questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol 

Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Gordan Radić]

  
  
Hi!
Yes, both 6 Plus and 6S plus have split screen capability but I
almost never use it because I keep my phone locked in Portrait. I
get used to it with 4S and old habits die hard xD.


  S poštovanjem
Gordan Radić
  

  

  

  

  
  

  
  

  

  


  


  

  

  

27.1.2016. u 3:21, Richard Turner je
  napisao/la:


  
  
  
  
First,
in the mBraille settings, try turning on tutor mode and make
sure you are hitting the right place on the screen for the
various dots.
 
Second,
The underscore means that you are essentially tapping with
three fingers instead of swiping.
I
tried really hard to duplicate what you are getting and the
only way I could is if I touched with three fingers and
lifted up as opposed to swiping with three fingers.
I
don’t know how to describe the difference exactly.  I think
of it as a glancing blow, or like I’m swiping crumbs off a
table.  I’ve never had any problems at all doing the gesture
to dismiss the keyboard.  I use an iPhone 6 and a 5s and
have never gotten an underscore accidentally.
I
have not had access to a 6s plus.  I didn’t know it had the
split screen view like iPads.
 
Can
you get it in the split screen view and then select the
mBraille keyboard?  Then, maybe it would look for a smaller
portion of the screen for the dots?
That
is just a wild guess.
 
Richard
 
 

  
From:
viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cheryl
Lenartiene
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 1:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How
many use VO Braille Screen Input?
  

 

  Hi,


  I am experiencing the same problem as
Bret. I could swipe three fingers right, all the way across
the phone, and MBraille inserts an underscore, no matter how
quickly or slowly, or how long or short I swipe.I am
proficient with VO Braille Screen Input, but I would love to
use the MBraille keyboard for its powerful features. But the
inability to dismiss the keyboard stands in my way.


   Also, ever since I upgraded from my
iPhone 5C to a 6S Plus, most of what I write using the
MBraille keyboard doesn't come out correctly. I use MBraille
in Away Mode, and I suspect that my hands are just too
small. The iOS Braille keyboard lets you calibrate the dot
positions, and that's probably why I've had a lot more
success using it.


  Finally, the split screen view seems to
interfere with MBraille. For example, I hold the phone in
portrait orientation and double tap a text field to reply to
an iMessage. I then activate the MBraille keyboard and
rotate the phone to landscape mode, screen facing away from
me. The MBraille keyboard is dismissed, as the phone
switches to the split screen view with contacts on the left
and conversations on the right.


  If anyone has any suggestions to offer
regarding any of these issues, I welcome them. I would love
to use MBraille as a third party keyboard, and not just in
its standalone form.


  Thanks!


   
  


  
  
  
Cheryl
  
  
Rejoice
always! Pray continually. Give thanks in everything,
  
  
for this is God's will for you in
  Christ Jesus.
  
  
1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
  
  
HCSB
  
  


  
  
  
Sent
from my iPhone
  


  
On Jan 26, 2016, at 2:50 AM, Brett <brettst...@gmail.com>
wrote:


  
Wow! I am so glad your MBraille
  experience is different to mine. I 

Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Gordan Radić]

  
  
Hi!
I'm also on the MBraille list and I didn't see your posts there. Is
it actually working? Few weeks ago I posted something about Android
issues and Harri replied but I don't get messages from other members
except Thomas from Danmark.


  S poštovanjem
Gordan Radić
  

  

  

  

  
  

  
  

  

  


  


  

  

  

27.1.2016. u 2:12, Brett je napisao/la:


  Hi, 

I haven't given up on it yet. I do want it to work because of its extra features, like being able to read what you have written without having to dispiss the keyboard. 

I am on the MBraille email list and have made Harry aware of the spellcheck feature not working in the thirdparty keyboard and the three fingger swipe right never dismissing the keyboard, but I have not received a helpbul reply from him. For me the issue of not being able to dismiss the keyboard has existed ever since the thirdparty keyboard became an option and has never been resolved. 

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the next update makes the app actually usable. 

Cheers, 
Brett. 


Sent from Brett's iPhone


  
On 27 Jan 2016, at 2:26 AM, Paul and Paula Jordan <pau...@roadrunner.com> wrote:

Hi Bret.  I'm sorry you've had a negative experience with the MBraille app.  I use it on a daily basis and love it.  There is a learning curve, but I've found that the more I work with it the more I like it.  I am on the MBraille email list and find that when I've had questions I get help and support from others.  The developer, Harry Pasaman, is also on the list and is very much in touch.  BTW, I probably spelled Harry's name incorrectly.) If you are an avid Braille user I encourage you to continue working with the app.
God bless!
Paula and Boston

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Brett
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 2:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

Wow! I am so glad your MBraille experience is different to mine. I bought it before iOS braille was introduced and as a standalone app it works well and does have more editing features than iOS braille, but as a third-party keyboard, it is the buggiest program I have purchased. There is absolutely no support from the author at all. 

For me the three finger swipe right to dismiss the MBraille keyboard never works. This is replicatable 100 percent of the time. Seriously, if your intrested in braille, learn to use the iOS keyboard and don't waist your money on purchasing bugs. I have received better support from apps that were free. 

Cheers, Brett. 


Sent from Brett's iPhone



  On 26 Jan 2016, at 6:34 PM, 'RobH.' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote:

keep seeing a lot of flack on the mBraille list about  how flaky some 
of this is,  but I took to it and would prefer this method of working  
than any other. I haven't bought the feature you describe, but worked pretty well the last time I tried it,  which is a hwile ago now.  But I'm still on their list and  I suppose there's no more flack there, than here about the rest of iOs.

R.
- Original Message -
From: "Arnold Schmidt" <arno...@mindspring.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 12:23 AM
Subject: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?


I already had MBraille before the Apple Braille keyboard was released, 
so I have not taken the time to learn to use the Apple keyboard very well.  I find it to be not quite as refined as is MBraille, although that very well could be due to operator
incompetence.Also, it does not have the word processing ability of MBraille.  If I want to edit anything, I have to use the 
regular Apple keyboard editing features, which are not as easy for me to use as those in MBraille.

A few months ago, I purchased the option to use MBraille as a 
third-party keyboard.  At the time, it didn't seem to work very well 
for me as a third-party keyboard, so I forgot about it until last 
weekend when, for some reason which I do not remember now, I decided 
to try it again.  I deleted that emogey  keyboard which I never used, 
and enabled MBraille as a third-party keyboard.  It works well. Now, 
when I am in a text field, I can tap the next keyboard button, and 
although the transition to MBraille is occasionally a bit flakey, more often than not, it goes right into MBraille.  I write my text, am enable to correct any errors or do any word processing I wish to do with MBraille. Then, I Place my fingers onto the keyboard as if I were going to write dots 4-5-6,

Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Brett]

Hi, 

I first tried it to write this email, but couldn't dismiss the keyboard as 
usual, so had to close the mail app from the app switcher and had to write this 
using iOS braille. 

Cheers 
Brett. 

Sent from Brett's iPhone

> On 26 Jan 2016, at 8:31 PM, Arnold Schmidt <arno...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> 
> How recently have you tried it as a third-party keyboard?  If very recently, 
> then I regret your bad experience.  I, too, had thought I had wasted my money 
> on the third-party keyboard option, until I tried it again last weekend.  I 
> don't know what made the difference, an MBraille or IOS update, but it works 
> well now for me.  I am running it on an iPhone 6, with IOS 9.2.1. I do need 
> to learn more about the Apple braille keyboard, just to have another 
> alternative.
> 
> Arnold Schmidt
> - Original Message - From: "Brett" <brettst...@gmail.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 2:50 AM
> Subject: Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen 
> Input?
> 
> 
> Wow! I am so glad your MBraille experience is different to mine. I bought it 
> before iOS braille was introduced and as a standalone app it works well and 
> does have more editing features than iOS braille, but as a third-party 
> keyboard, it is the buggiest program I have purchased. There is absolutely no 
> support from the author at all.
> 
> For me the three finger swipe right to dismiss the MBraille keyboard never 
> works. This is replicatable 100 percent of the time. Seriously, if your 
> intrested in braille, learn to use the iOS keyboard and don't waist your 
> money on purchasing bugs. I have received better support from apps that were 
> free.
> 
> Cheers, Brett.
> 
> 
> Sent from Brett's iPhone
> 
>> On 26 Jan 2016, at 6:34 PM, 'RobH.' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> keep seeing a lot of flack on the mBraille list about  how flaky some of 
>> this is,  but I took to it and would prefer this method of
>> working  than any other. I haven't bought the feature you describe, but 
>> worked pretty well the last time I tried it,  which is a
>> hwile ago now.  But I'm still on their list and  I suppose there's no more 
>> flack there, than here about the rest of iOs.
>> 
>> R.
>> - Original Message - From: "Arnold Schmidt" <arno...@mindspring.com>
>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 12:23 AM
>> Subject: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
>> 
>> 
>> I already had MBraille before the Apple Braille keyboard was released, so I 
>> have not taken the time to learn to use the Apple
>> keyboard very well.  I find it to be not quite as refined as is MBraille, 
>> although that very well could be due to operator
>> incompetence.Also, it does not have the word processing ability of 
>> MBraille.  If I want to edit anything, I have to use the
>> regular Apple keyboard editing features, which are not as easy for me to use 
>> as those in MBraille.
>> 
>> A few months ago, I purchased the option to use MBraille as a third-party 
>> keyboard.  At the time, it didn't seem to work very well
>> for me as a third-party keyboard, so I forgot about it until last weekend 
>> when, for some reason which I do not remember now, I
>> decided to try it again.  I deleted that emogey  keyboard which I never 
>> used, and enabled MBraille as a third-party keyboard.  It
>> works well. Now, when I am in a text field, I can tap the next keyboard 
>> button, and although the transition to MBraille is
>> occasionally a bit flakey, more often than not, it goes right into MBraille. 
>>  I write my text, am enable to correct any errors or do
>> any word processing I wish to do with MBraille. Then, I Place my fingers 
>> onto the keyboard as if I were going to write dots 4-5-6,
>> and do a three-finger swipe right (being in landscape mode, I mean a 
>> three-finger swipe toward the home button.)  It then inserts my
>> text into the text field, and I am back in the regular keyboard.  No more 
>> copying and pasting.
>> 
>> Arnold Schmidt
>> - Original Message -  From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 11:59 AM
>> Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
>> 
>> 
>> Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I 
>> love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is
>> more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though,

Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Arnold Schmidt]

How recently have you tried it as a third-party keyboard?  If very recently, 
then I regret your bad experience.  I, too, had thought I had wasted my 
money on the third-party keyboard option, until I tried it again last 
weekend.  I don't know what made the difference, an MBraille or IOS update, 
but it works well now for me.  I am running it on an iPhone 6, with IOS 
9.2.1. I do need to learn more about the Apple braille keyboard, just to 
have another alternative.


Arnold Schmidt
- Original Message - 
From: "Brett" <brettst...@gmail.com>

To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 2:50 AM
Subject: Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen 
Input?



Wow! I am so glad your MBraille experience is different to mine. I bought it 
before iOS braille was introduced and as a standalone app it works well and 
does have more editing features than iOS braille, but as a third-party 
keyboard, it is the buggiest program I have purchased. There is absolutely 
no support from the author at all.


For me the three finger swipe right to dismiss the MBraille keyboard never 
works. This is replicatable 100 percent of the time. Seriously, if your 
intrested in braille, learn to use the iOS keyboard and don't waist your 
money on purchasing bugs. I have received better support from apps that were 
free.


Cheers, Brett.


Sent from Brett's iPhone

On 26 Jan 2016, at 6:34 PM, 'RobH.' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> 
wrote:


keep seeing a lot of flack on the mBraille list about  how flaky some of 
this is,  but I took to it and would prefer this method of
working  than any other. I haven't bought the feature you describe, but 
worked pretty well the last time I tried it,  which is a
hwile ago now.  But I'm still on their list and  I suppose there's no more 
flack there, than here about the rest of iOs.


R.
- Original Message - 
From: "Arnold Schmidt" <arno...@mindspring.com>

To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 12:23 AM
Subject: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen 
Input?



I already had MBraille before the Apple Braille keyboard was released, so 
I have not taken the time to learn to use the Apple
keyboard very well.  I find it to be not quite as refined as is MBraille, 
although that very well could be due to operator
incompetence.Also, it does not have the word processing ability of 
MBraille.  If I want to edit anything, I have to use the
regular Apple keyboard editing features, which are not as easy for me to 
use as those in MBraille.


A few months ago, I purchased the option to use MBraille as a third-party 
keyboard.  At the time, it didn't seem to work very well
for me as a third-party keyboard, so I forgot about it until last weekend 
when, for some reason which I do not remember now, I
decided to try it again.  I deleted that emogey  keyboard which I never 
used, and enabled MBraille as a third-party keyboard.  It
works well. Now, when I am in a text field, I can tap the next keyboard 
button, and although the transition to MBraille is
occasionally a bit flakey, more often than not, it goes right into 
MBraille.  I write my text, am enable to correct any errors or do
any word processing I wish to do with MBraille. Then, I Place my fingers 
onto the keyboard as if I were going to write dots 4-5-6,
and do a three-finger swipe right (being in landscape mode, I mean a 
three-finger swipe toward the home button.)  It then inserts my
text into the text field, and I am back in the regular keyboard.  No more 
copying and pasting.


Arnold Schmidt
 - Original Message - 
 From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone

 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 11:59 AM
 Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?


 Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. 
I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is
more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a 
user perspective and the errors could be mine!


 I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit 
tricky to use it in this way, because of the other
keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! 
Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open
the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is 
easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper
key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of 
the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the
rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" " because it's the only thing 
that really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient

with anything other than this.

 If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! 
Carol P

 Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

 On 25 Jan 2016, at 3:37 pm, Tim Emmons <temmo...@gmail

Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Richard Turner]

That is quite the puzzle.
Have you tried locking the orientation?
I hope you can get it sorted out.
It is a fabulous app.
Richard



> On Jan 26, 2016, at 8:47 PM, Cheryl Lenartiene <cheryl.lenarti...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
> I appreciate your suggestions. I am a very experienced iPhone user, and I 
> don't have any trouble with swiping or scrolling, except when it comes to 
> dismissing the MBraille keyboard. I also don't have trouble typing in 
> MBraille proper. My issues are only with the third party keyboard 
> functionality. I've done all the usual troubleshooting steps, making sure the 
> keyboard was enabled and full access was on, reinstalling the app, cycling 
> power, and so on. Like Brett, I've had trouble dismissing the keyboard since 
> the feature was first introduced. However, my keyboard input problems just 
> started with the 6S Plus. Although I had trouble dismissing the keyboard on 
> my 5C, I could at least type with it.
> I appreciate the suggestion of dealing with the split screen. However, as 
> soon as I manipulate the phone even slightly to get into position to type, 
> the iPhone alternates between split screen and normal view, and the keyboard 
> is dismissed. So still stumped on this one.
> 
> 
> Cheryl
> Rejoice always! Pray continually. Give thanks in everything,
> for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
> 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
> HCSB
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 26, 2016, at 9:21 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> First, in the mBraille settings, try turning on tutor mode and make sure you 
>> are hitting the right place on the screen for the various dots.
>>  
>> Second, The underscore means that you are essentially tapping with three 
>> fingers instead of swiping.
>> I tried really hard to duplicate what you are getting and the only way I 
>> could is if I touched with three fingers and lifted up as opposed to swiping 
>> with three fingers.
>> I don’t know how to describe the difference exactly.  I think of it as a 
>> glancing blow, or like I’m swiping crumbs off a table.  I’ve never had any 
>> problems at all doing the gesture to dismiss the keyboard.  I use an iPhone 
>> 6 and a 5s and have never gotten an underscore accidentally.
>> I have not had access to a 6s plus.  I didn’t know it had the split screen 
>> view like iPads.
>>  
>> Can you get it in the split screen view and then select the mBraille 
>> keyboard?  Then, maybe it would look for a smaller portion of the screen for 
>> the dots?
>> That is just a wild guess.
>>  
>> Richard
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Cheryl Lenartiene
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 1:44 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen 
>> Input?
>>  
>> Hi,
>> I am experiencing the same problem as Bret. I could swipe three fingers 
>> right, all the way across the phone, and MBraille inserts an underscore, no 
>> matter how quickly or slowly, or how long or short I swipe.I am proficient 
>> with VO Braille Screen Input, but I would love to use the MBraille keyboard 
>> for its powerful features. But the inability to dismiss the keyboard stands 
>> in my way.
>>  Also, ever since I upgraded from my iPhone 5C to a 6S Plus, most of what I 
>> write using the MBraille keyboard doesn't come out correctly. I use MBraille 
>> in Away Mode, and I suspect that my hands are just too small. The iOS 
>> Braille keyboard lets you calibrate the dot positions, and that's probably 
>> why I've had a lot more success using it.
>> Finally, the split screen view seems to interfere with MBraille. For 
>> example, I hold the phone in portrait orientation and double tap a text 
>> field to reply to an iMessage. I then activate the MBraille keyboard and 
>> rotate the phone to landscape mode, screen facing away from me. The MBraille 
>> keyboard is dismissed, as the phone switches to the split screen view with 
>> contacts on the left and conversations on the right.
>> If anyone has any suggestions to offer regarding any of these issues, I 
>> welcome them. I would love to use MBraille as a third party keyboard, and 
>> not just in its standalone form.
>> Thanks!
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> Cheryl
>> Rejoice always! Pray continually. Give thanks in everything,
>> for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
>> 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
>> HCSB
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>

Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

I am not quite sure where your problem lies either but am trying things out 
here since I'm now puzzled about your settings also as I'm using a 6 s with the 
Dird Party keyboard enabled and all options have "Yes"
I'm not giving up though and will remember to come back to you if I think I may 
have found you a solution. I agree, it's the best way to braille, when things 
are working properly, with the most options available.  I'm not giving up 
though and will remember to come back to you if I think I may have found you a 
solution! Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

On 27 Jan 2016, at 4:52 am, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> wrote:


That is quite the puzzle.
Have you tried locking the orientation?
I hope you can get it sorted out.
It is a fabulous app.
Richard



> On Jan 26, 2016, at 8:47 PM, Cheryl Lenartiene <cheryl.lenarti...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
> I appreciate your suggestions. I am a very experienced iPhone user, and I 
> don't have any trouble with swiping or scrolling, except when it comes to 
> dismissing the MBraille keyboard. I also don't have trouble typing in 
> MBraille proper. My issues are only with the third party keyboard 
> functionality. I've done all the usual troubleshooting steps, making sure the 
> keyboard was enabled and full access was on, reinstalling the app, cycling 
> power, and so on. Like Brett, I've had trouble dismissing the keyboard since 
> the feature was first introduced. However, my keyboard input problems just 
> started with the 6S Plus. Although I had trouble dismissing the keyboard on 
> my 5C, I could at least type with it.
> I appreciate the suggestion of dealing with the split screen. However, as 
> soon as I manipulate the phone even slightly to get into position to type, 
> the iPhone alternates between split screen and normal view, and the keyboard 
> is dismissed. So still stumped on this one.
> 
> 
> Cheryl
> Rejoice always! Pray continually. Give thanks in everything,
> for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
> 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
> HCSB
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 26, 2016, at 9:21 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> First, in the mBraille settings, try turning on tutor mode and make sure you 
>> are hitting the right place on the screen for the various dots.
>>  
>> Second, The underscore means that you are essentially tapping with three 
>> fingers instead of swiping.
>> I tried really hard to duplicate what you are getting and the only way I 
>> could is if I touched with three fingers and lifted up as opposed to swiping 
>> with three fingers.
>> I don’t know how to describe the difference exactly.  I think of it as a 
>> glancing blow, or like I’m swiping crumbs off a table.  I’ve never had any 
>> problems at all doing the gesture to dismiss the keyboard.  I use an iPhone 
>> 6 and a 5s and have never gotten an underscore accidentally.
>> I have not had access to a 6s plus.  I didn’t know it had the split screen 
>> view like iPads.
>>  
>> Can you get it in the split screen view and then select the mBraille 
>> keyboard?  Then, maybe it would look for a smaller portion of the screen for 
>> the dots?
>> That is just a wild guess.
>>  
>> Richard
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Cheryl Lenartiene
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 1:44 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen 
>> Input?
>>  
>> Hi,
>> I am experiencing the same problem as Bret. I could swipe three fingers 
>> right, all the way across the phone, and MBraille inserts an underscore, no 
>> matter how quickly or slowly, or how long or short I swipe.I am proficient 
>> with VO Braille Screen Input, but I would love to use the MBraille keyboard 
>> for its powerful features. But the inability to dismiss the keyboard stands 
>> in my way.
>>  Also, ever since I upgraded from my iPhone 5C to a 6S Plus, most of what I 
>> write using the MBraille keyboard doesn't come out correctly. I use MBraille 
>> in Away Mode, and I suspect that my hands are just too small. The iOS 
>> Braille keyboard lets you calibrate the dot positions, and that's probably 
>> why I've had a lot more success using it.
>> Finally, the split screen view seems to interfere with MBraille. For 
>> example, I hold the phone in portrait orientation and double tap a text 
>> field to reply to an iMessage. I then activate the MBraille keyboard and 
>> rotate the phone to landscape mode, screen facin

Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Cheryl Lenartiene]

Hi Richard,
I appreciate your suggestions. I am a very experienced iPhone user, and I don't 
have any trouble with swiping or scrolling, except when it comes to dismissing 
the MBraille keyboard. I also don't have trouble typing in MBraille proper. My 
issues are only with the third party keyboard functionality. I've done all the 
usual troubleshooting steps, making sure the keyboard was enabled and full 
access was on, reinstalling the app, cycling power, and so on. Like Brett, I've 
had trouble dismissing the keyboard since the feature was first introduced. 
However, my keyboard input problems just started with the 6S Plus. Although I 
had trouble dismissing the keyboard on my 5C, I could at least type with it.
I appreciate the suggestion of dealing with the split screen. However, as soon 
as I manipulate the phone even slightly to get into position to type, the 
iPhone alternates between split screen and normal view, and the keyboard is 
dismissed. So still stumped on this one.


Cheryl
Rejoice always! Pray continually. Give thanks in everything,
for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
HCSB

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 26, 2016, at 9:21 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> First, in the mBraille settings, try turning on tutor mode and make sure you 
> are hitting the right place on the screen for the various dots.
>  
> Second, The underscore means that you are essentially tapping with three 
> fingers instead of swiping.
> I tried really hard to duplicate what you are getting and the only way I 
> could is if I touched with three fingers and lifted up as opposed to swiping 
> with three fingers.
> I don’t know how to describe the difference exactly.  I think of it as a 
> glancing blow, or like I’m swiping crumbs off a table.  I’ve never had any 
> problems at all doing the gesture to dismiss the keyboard.  I use an iPhone 6 
> and a 5s and have never gotten an underscore accidentally.
> I have not had access to a 6s plus.  I didn’t know it had the split screen 
> view like iPads.
>  
> Can you get it in the split screen view and then select the mBraille 
> keyboard?  Then, maybe it would look for a smaller portion of the screen for 
> the dots?
> That is just a wild guess.
>  
> Richard
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Cheryl Lenartiene
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 1:44 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen 
> Input?
>  
> Hi,
> I am experiencing the same problem as Bret. I could swipe three fingers 
> right, all the way across the phone, and MBraille inserts an underscore, no 
> matter how quickly or slowly, or how long or short I swipe.I am proficient 
> with VO Braille Screen Input, but I would love to use the MBraille keyboard 
> for its powerful features. But the inability to dismiss the keyboard stands 
> in my way.
>  Also, ever since I upgraded from my iPhone 5C to a 6S Plus, most of what I 
> write using the MBraille keyboard doesn't come out correctly. I use MBraille 
> in Away Mode, and I suspect that my hands are just too small. The iOS Braille 
> keyboard lets you calibrate the dot positions, and that's probably why I've 
> had a lot more success using it.
> Finally, the split screen view seems to interfere with MBraille. For example, 
> I hold the phone in portrait orientation and double tap a text field to reply 
> to an iMessage. I then activate the MBraille keyboard and rotate the phone to 
> landscape mode, screen facing away from me. The MBraille keyboard is 
> dismissed, as the phone switches to the split screen view with contacts on 
> the left and conversations on the right.
> If anyone has any suggestions to offer regarding any of these issues, I 
> welcome them. I would love to use MBraille as a third party keyboard, and not 
> just in its standalone form.
> Thanks!
>  
> 
> 
> Cheryl
> Rejoice always! Pray continually. Give thanks in everything,
> for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
> 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18
> HCSB
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jan 26, 2016, at 2:50 AM, Brett <brettst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Wow! I am so glad your MBraille experience is different to mine. I bought it 
> before iOS braille was introduced and as a standalone app it works well and 
> does have more editing features than iOS braille, but as a third-party 
> keyboard, it is the buggiest program I have purchased. There is absolutely no 
> support from the author at all. 
> 
> For me the three finger swipe right to dismiss the MBraille keyboard never 
> works. This is replicatable 100 percent of the time. Seriously, if your 
> intrested in brail

Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Gordan Radić]

  
  
Hi!
Turn off 'raise to speak' option in Settings/Messages. I believe
it's there.


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Gordan Radić
  

  

  

  

  
  

  
  

  

  


  


  

  

  

26.1.2016. u 2:26, Jennie Facer je
  napisao/la:


  I use it on a daily basis. The only problem I find when using it is in iMessages. Whenever I tilt the phone to go into away mode, it thinks I want to record a message. Any thoughts on how to get rid of this?

Thanks,

Jennie Facer


  
On Jan 24, 2016, at 4:35 PM, Kevin Chao  wrote:

Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?

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Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Gordan Radić]

  
  
Agreed.
VO Braille Input is good for acasional use but MBraille is the
thing.


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26.1.2016. u 2:25, Richard Turner je
  napisao/la:


  
  
  
  I too prefer mBraille over the Apple
braille keyboard.
  It is worth the price and time to
learn given all it can do.
  Richard
  

Sent from my iPod
  
On Jan 25, 2016, at 4:25 PM, Arnold Schmidt <arno...@mindspring.com>
wrote:

  
  

  
  
  
  I already had MBraille before
  the Apple Braille keyboard was released, so I have not
  taken the time to learn to use the Apple keyboard very
  well.  I find it to be not quite as refined as is
  MBraille, although that very well could be due to operator
  incompetence.    Also, it does not have the word
  processing ability of MBraille.  If I want to edit
  anything, I have to use the regular Apple keyboard editing
  features, which are not as easy for me to use as those in
  MBraille.  
   
  A few months ago, I purchased
  the option to use MBraille as a third-party keyboard.  At
  the time, it didn't seem to work very well for me as a
  third-party keyboard, so I forgot about it until last
  weekend when, for some reason which I do not remember now,
  I decided to try it again.  I deleted that emogey 
  keyboard which I never used, and enabled MBraille as a
  third-party keyboard.  It works well. Now, when I am in a
  text field, I can tap the next keyboard button, and
  although the transition to MBraille is occasionally a bit
  flakey, more often than not, it goes right into MBraille. 
  I write my text, am enable to correct any errors or do any
  word processing I wish to do with MBraille. Then, I Place
  my fingers onto the keyboard as if I were going to write
  dots 4-5-6, and do a three-finger swipe right (being in
  landscape mode, I mean a three-finger swipe toward the
  home button.)  It then inserts my text into the text
  field, and I am back in the regular keyboard.  No more
  copying and pasting.
   
  Arnold Schmidt  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 'Carol Pearson'
via VIPhone 
To: viphone@googlegroups.com

Sent: Monday, January
  25, 2016 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: How many
      use VO Braille Screen Input?




  Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple
supplied on-board keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in
fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the
Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user
perspective and the errors could be mine!

I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard,
because it's a bit tricky to use it in this way, because
of the other keyboards that are already installed. I
wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use
the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut
and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier
and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper
key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the
disappointments of the Braille app by Apple which you
can include on the rotor. By the way, I use the "away
mode" " because it's the only thing that really works
for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient with
anything other than this. 
  
If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope
this is helpful! Carol P
  
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
  
  
On 25 Jan 2016, at 3:37 pm, Tim Emmons <temmo...@gmail.com>
wrote:

  
  o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked.
  six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. I tried to find an
  alternative to that inpu

Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

If you're in landscape mode do a 3 fingered swipe either up or down and you 
will toggle between locking and unlocking your orientation. I hope this is what 
want.
 

Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

On 26 Jan 2016, at 1:26 am, Jennie Facer  wrote:

I use it on a daily basis. The only problem I find when using it is in 
iMessages. Whenever I tilt the phone to go into away mode, it thinks I want to 
record a message. Any thoughts on how to get rid of this?

Thanks,

Jennie Facer

> On Jan 24, 2016, at 4:35 PM, Kevin Chao  wrote:
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> Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which 
> mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?
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RE: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

Hi Bret.  I'm sorry you've had a negative experience with the MBraille app.  I 
use it on a daily basis and love it.  There is a learning curve, but I've found 
that the more I work with it the more I like it.  I am on the MBraille email 
list and find that when I've had questions I get help and support from others.  
The developer, Harry Pasaman, is also on the list and is very much in touch.  
BTW, I probably spelled Harry's name incorrectly.) If you are an avid Braille 
user I encourage you to continue working with the app.
God bless!
Paula and Boston

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Brett
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 2:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

Wow! I am so glad your MBraille experience is different to mine. I bought it 
before iOS braille was introduced and as a standalone app it works well and 
does have more editing features than iOS braille, but as a third-party 
keyboard, it is the buggiest program I have purchased. There is absolutely no 
support from the author at all. 

For me the three finger swipe right to dismiss the MBraille keyboard never 
works. This is replicatable 100 percent of the time. Seriously, if your 
intrested in braille, learn to use the iOS keyboard and don't waist your money 
on purchasing bugs. I have received better support from apps that were free. 

Cheers, Brett. 


Sent from Brett's iPhone

> On 26 Jan 2016, at 6:34 PM, 'RobH.' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> keep seeing a lot of flack on the mBraille list about  how flaky some 
> of this is,  but I took to it and would prefer this method of working  
> than any other. I haven't bought the feature you describe, but worked pretty 
> well the last time I tried it,  which is a hwile ago now.  But I'm still on 
> their list and  I suppose there's no more flack there, than here about the 
> rest of iOs.
> 
> R.
> - Original Message -
> From: "Arnold Schmidt" <arno...@mindspring.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 12:23 AM
> Subject: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> 
> 
> I already had MBraille before the Apple Braille keyboard was released, 
> so I have not taken the time to learn to use the Apple keyboard very well.  I 
> find it to be not quite as refined as is MBraille, although that very well 
> could be due to operator
> incompetence.Also, it does not have the word processing ability of 
> MBraille.  If I want to edit anything, I have to use the 
> regular Apple keyboard editing features, which are not as easy for me to use 
> as those in MBraille.
> 
> A few months ago, I purchased the option to use MBraille as a 
> third-party keyboard.  At the time, it didn't seem to work very well 
> for me as a third-party keyboard, so I forgot about it until last 
> weekend when, for some reason which I do not remember now, I decided 
> to try it again.  I deleted that emogey  keyboard which I never used, 
> and enabled MBraille as a third-party keyboard.  It works well. Now, 
> when I am in a text field, I can tap the next keyboard button, and 
> although the transition to MBraille is occasionally a bit flakey, more often 
> than not, it goes right into MBraille.  I write my text, am enable to correct 
> any errors or do any word processing I wish to do with MBraille. Then, I 
> Place my fingers onto the keyboard as if I were going to write dots 4-5-6, 
> and do a three-finger swipe right (being in landscape mode, I mean a 
> three-finger swipe toward the home button.)  It then inserts my text into the 
> text field, and I am back in the regular keyboard.  No more copying and 
> pasting.
> 
> Arnold Schmidt
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>  Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 11:59 AM
>  Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> 
> 
>  Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board 
> keyboard. I love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more 
> accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user 
> perspective and the errors could be mine!
> 
>  I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a 
> bit tricky to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that 
> are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I 
> quite often use the old method too, so I can open the app and then cut 
> and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier and I like it 
> better! What I do like is to have proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid 
> this is one of the disappointments of the

Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Rajmund]

Hello,
Its a practise and error. To calibrate, we will need your device first, in  
order to give the right command. Its different on both my iPad and phone. 
Typing modes, do you mean braille codes, or typing modes?

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 12:46 pm
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

>
>
> Hello everybody.
> I've tried it and haven't been very successful. Here are my questions.
> 1. How do I recalibrate?
> 2. What typing modes are available in the braille screen input mode?
> 3. What techniques helped you to become proficient? Thanks so much. 
> 
> > On Jan 25, 2016, at 1:23 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > uncontracted, table top, UEB.
> > 
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> > Date: Sunday, January 24, 2016 11:35 pm
> > Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which 
> >> mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?
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Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Rajmund]

Hello,
Don't think there's any, hence I'm not even considering android. :)

- Original Message -
From: Tim Emmons  <temmo...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 3:37 pm
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

>
>
>  o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and 
> IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I 
> got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input. 
> I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for 
> sure. 
> > On Jan 25, 2016, at 1:23 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > uncontracted, table top, UEB.
> > 
> > - Original Message -
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> > Date: Sunday, January 24, 2016 11:35 pm
> > Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> > 
> >> 
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Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Tim Emmons]

That’s what’s keeping me where I’m at. Lol. I have the Kindle Fire but that’s 
the closest to any Android I’m gonna cut it at this point.  Lol. Love the 
braille input and wouldn’t trade it for anything. 
> On Jan 26, 2016, at 1:50 PM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Don't think there's any, hence I'm not even considering android. :)
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Tim Emmons  <temmo...@gmail.com>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 3:37 pm
> Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> 
>> 
>> 
>> o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and 
>> IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I 
>> got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille 
>> input. I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's 
>> for sure. 
>>> On Jan 25, 2016, at 1:23 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> uncontracted, table top, UEB.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Kevin Chao  <kevincha...@gmail.com>
>>> To: viphone<viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Date: Sunday, January 24, 2016 11:35 pm
>>> Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which 
>>>> mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?
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Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Rajmund]

Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.

- Original Message -
From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 4:59 pm
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

>
>
> Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I 
> love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the 
> Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the 
> errors could be mine!
> 
> I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky 
> to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already 
> installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old 
> method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because 
> in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have 
> proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments 
> of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I 
> use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I 
> can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this.. 
> 
> If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! 
> Carol P
> Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
> 
> On 25 Jan 2016, at 3:37 pm, Tim Emmons <temmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and 
> IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I 
> got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input. 
> I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for 
> sure. 
> > On Jan 25, 2016, at 1:23 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Hello,
> > uncontracted, table top, UEB.
> > 
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Kevin Chao  <kevincha...@gmail.com>
> > To: viphone<viphone@googlegroups.com>
> > Date: Sunday, January 24, 2016 11:35 pm
> > Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> > 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which 
> >> mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?
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Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

Yes, I know that, but I don't really like that either. I think that MBraille is 
more accurate. However I am using both because I have to do something and it 
pens what I'm doing which are use.

Thanks for the idea. Already got it!

Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

On 26 Jan 2016, at 8:50 pm, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Carol, Tried the built in braille? That is on the rotor.

- Original Message -
From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone  <viphone@googlegroups.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 4:59 pm
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

> 
> 
> Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I 
> love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the 
> Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the 
> errors could be mine!
> 
> I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky 
> to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already 
> installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old 
> method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because 
> in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have 
> proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments 
> of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I 
> use the "away mode" ” because it's the only thing that really works for me. I 
> can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this.. 
> 
> If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! 
> Carol P
> Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
> 
> On 25 Jan 2016, at 3:37 pm, Tim Emmons <temmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and 
> IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I 
> got for Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input. 
> I love it and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for 
> sure. 
>> On Jan 25, 2016, at 1:23 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> uncontracted, table top, UEB.
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Kevin Chao  <kevincha...@gmail.com>
>> To: viphone<viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Date: Sunday, January 24, 2016 11:35 pm
>> Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which 
>>> mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?
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Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Paul Hunt]

Hello Rajmund. I use an IPhone 6S. I'm using it with a Brailliant BI 40 Braille 
display. I want to recalibrate it. Are the standard, touch typing and the 
direct touch typing modes available when using the braille screen input feature?

> On Jan 26, 2016, at 12:42 PM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Its a practise and error. To calibrate, we will need your device first, in  
> order to give the right command. Its different on both my iPad and phone. 
> Typing modes, do you mean braille codes, or typing modes?
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Paul Hunt  <prhu...@att.net>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 12:46 pm
> Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hello everybody.
>> I've tried it and haven't been very successful. Here are my questions.
>> 1. How do I recalibrate?
>> 2. What typing modes are available in the braille screen input mode?
>> 3. What techniques helped you to become proficient? Thanks so much. 
>> 
>>> On Jan 25, 2016, at 1:23 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> uncontracted, table top, UEB.
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Kevin Chao  <kevincha...@gmail.com>
>>> To: viphone<viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Date: Sunday, January 24, 2016 11:35 pm
>>> Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which 
>>>> mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?
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Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Cheryl Lenartiene]

Hi,
I am experiencing the same problem as Bret. I could swipe three fingers right, 
all the way across the phone, and MBraille inserts an underscore, no matter how 
quickly or slowly, or how long or short I swipe.I am proficient with VO Braille 
Screen Input, but I would love to use the MBraille keyboard for its powerful 
features. But the inability to dismiss the keyboard stands in my way.
 Also, ever since I upgraded from my iPhone 5C to a 6S Plus, most of what I 
write using the MBraille keyboard doesn't come out correctly. I use MBraille in 
Away Mode, and I suspect that my hands are just too small. The iOS Braille 
keyboard lets you calibrate the dot positions, and that's probably why I've had 
a lot more success using it.
Finally, the split screen view seems to interfere with MBraille. For example, I 
hold the phone in portrait orientation and double tap a text field to reply to 
an iMessage. I then activate the MBraille keyboard and rotate the phone to 
landscape mode, screen facing away from me. The MBraille keyboard is dismissed, 
as the phone switches to the split screen view with contacts on the left and 
conversations on the right.
If anyone has any suggestions to offer regarding any of these issues, I welcome 
them. I would love to use MBraille as a third party keyboard, and not just in 
its standalone form.
Thanks!


Cheryl
Rejoice always! Pray continually. Give thanks in everything,
for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
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HCSB

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 26, 2016, at 2:50 AM, Brett <brettst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Wow! I am so glad your MBraille experience is different to mine. I bought it 
> before iOS braille was introduced and as a standalone app it works well and 
> does have more editing features than iOS braille, but as a third-party 
> keyboard, it is the buggiest program I have purchased. There is absolutely no 
> support from the author at all. 
> 
> For me the three finger swipe right to dismiss the MBraille keyboard never 
> works. This is replicatable 100 percent of the time. Seriously, if your 
> intrested in braille, learn to use the iOS keyboard and don't waist your 
> money on purchasing bugs. I have received better support from apps that were 
> free. 
> 
> Cheers, Brett. 
> 
> 
> Sent from Brett's iPhone
> 
>> On 26 Jan 2016, at 6:34 PM, 'RobH.' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> keep seeing a lot of flack on the mBraille list about  how flaky some of 
>> this is,  but I took to it and would prefer this method of 
>> working  than any other. I haven't bought the feature you describe, but 
>> worked pretty well the last time I tried it,  which is a 
>> hwile ago now.  But I'm still on their list and  I suppose there's no more 
>> flack there, than here about the rest of iOs.
>> 
>> R.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Arnold Schmidt" <arno...@mindspring.com>
>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 12:23 AM
>> Subject: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
>> 
>> 
>> I already had MBraille before the Apple Braille keyboard was released, so I 
>> have not taken the time to learn to use the Apple 
>> keyboard very well.  I find it to be not quite as refined as is MBraille, 
>> although that very well could be due to operator 
>> incompetence.Also, it does not have the word processing ability of 
>> MBraille.  If I want to edit anything, I have to use the 
>> regular Apple keyboard editing features, which are not as easy for me to use 
>> as those in MBraille.
>> 
>> A few months ago, I purchased the option to use MBraille as a third-party 
>> keyboard.  At the time, it didn't seem to work very well 
>> for me as a third-party keyboard, so I forgot about it until last weekend 
>> when, for some reason which I do not remember now, I 
>> decided to try it again.  I deleted that emogey  keyboard which I never 
>> used, and enabled MBraille as a third-party keyboard.  It 
>> works well. Now, when I am in a text field, I can tap the next keyboard 
>> button, and although the transition to MBraille is 
>> occasionally a bit flakey, more often than not, it goes right into MBraille. 
>>  I write my text, am enable to correct any errors or do 
>> any word processing I wish to do with MBraille. Then, I Place my fingers 
>> onto the keyboard as if I were going to write dots 4-5-6, 
>> and do a three-finger swipe right (being in landscape mode, I mean a 
>> three-finger swipe toward the home button.)  It then inserts my 
>> text into the text field, and I am back in the regular keyboard.  No more 
>> copying and pasti

Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Brett]

Hi, 

I haven't given up on it yet. I do want it to work because of its extra 
features, like being able to read what you have written without having to 
dispiss the keyboard. 

I am on the MBraille email list and have made Harry aware of the spellcheck 
feature not working in the thirdparty keyboard and the three fingger swipe 
right never dismissing the keyboard, but I have not received a helpbul reply 
from him. For me the issue of not being able to dismiss the keyboard has 
existed ever since the thirdparty keyboard became an option and has never been 
resolved. 

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the next update makes the app actually 
usable. 

Cheers, 
Brett. 


Sent from Brett's iPhone

> On 27 Jan 2016, at 2:26 AM, Paul and Paula Jordan <pau...@roadrunner.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Bret.  I'm sorry you've had a negative experience with the MBraille app.  
> I use it on a daily basis and love it.  There is a learning curve, but I've 
> found that the more I work with it the more I like it.  I am on the MBraille 
> email list and find that when I've had questions I get help and support from 
> others.  The developer, Harry Pasaman, is also on the list and is very much 
> in touch.  BTW, I probably spelled Harry's name incorrectly.) If you are an 
> avid Braille user I encourage you to continue working with the app.
> God bless!
> Paula and Boston
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Brett
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 2:51 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen 
> Input?
> 
> Wow! I am so glad your MBraille experience is different to mine. I bought it 
> before iOS braille was introduced and as a standalone app it works well and 
> does have more editing features than iOS braille, but as a third-party 
> keyboard, it is the buggiest program I have purchased. There is absolutely no 
> support from the author at all. 
> 
> For me the three finger swipe right to dismiss the MBraille keyboard never 
> works. This is replicatable 100 percent of the time. Seriously, if your 
> intrested in braille, learn to use the iOS keyboard and don't waist your 
> money on purchasing bugs. I have received better support from apps that were 
> free. 
> 
> Cheers, Brett. 
> 
> 
> Sent from Brett's iPhone
> 
>> On 26 Jan 2016, at 6:34 PM, 'RobH.' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> keep seeing a lot of flack on the mBraille list about  how flaky some 
>> of this is,  but I took to it and would prefer this method of working  
>> than any other. I haven't bought the feature you describe, but worked pretty 
>> well the last time I tried it,  which is a hwile ago now.  But I'm still on 
>> their list and  I suppose there's no more flack there, than here about the 
>> rest of iOs.
>> 
>> R.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Arnold Schmidt" <arno...@mindspring.com>
>> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 12:23 AM
>> Subject: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
>> 
>> 
>> I already had MBraille before the Apple Braille keyboard was released, 
>> so I have not taken the time to learn to use the Apple keyboard very well.  
>> I find it to be not quite as refined as is MBraille, although that very well 
>> could be due to operator
>> incompetence.Also, it does not have the word processing ability of 
>> MBraille.  If I want to edit anything, I have to use the 
>> regular Apple keyboard editing features, which are not as easy for me to use 
>> as those in MBraille.
>> 
>> A few months ago, I purchased the option to use MBraille as a 
>> third-party keyboard.  At the time, it didn't seem to work very well 
>> for me as a third-party keyboard, so I forgot about it until last 
>> weekend when, for some reason which I do not remember now, I decided 
>> to try it again.  I deleted that emogey  keyboard which I never used, 
>> and enabled MBraille as a third-party keyboard.  It works well. Now, 
>> when I am in a text field, I can tap the next keyboard button, and 
>> although the transition to MBraille is occasionally a bit flakey, more often 
>> than not, it goes right into MBraille.  I write my text, am enable to 
>> correct any errors or do any word processing I wish to do with MBraille. 
>> Then, I Place my fingers onto the keyboard as if I were going to write dots 
>> 4-5-6, and do a three-finger swipe right (being in landscape mode, I mean a 
>> three-finger swipe toward the home button.)  It then inserts my 

RE: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Richard Turner]

First, in the mBraille settings, try turning on tutor mode and make sure you 
are hitting the right place on the screen for the various dots.

 

Second, The underscore means that you are essentially tapping with three 
fingers instead of swiping.

I tried really hard to duplicate what you are getting and the only way I could 
is if I touched with three fingers and lifted up as opposed to swiping with 
three fingers.

I don’t know how to describe the difference exactly.  I think of it as a 
glancing blow, or like I’m swiping crumbs off a table.  I’ve never had any 
problems at all doing the gesture to dismiss the keyboard.  I use an iPhone 6 
and a 5s and have never gotten an underscore accidentally.

I have not had access to a 6s plus.  I didn’t know it had the split screen view 
like iPads.

 

Can you get it in the split screen view and then select the mBraille keyboard?  
Then, maybe it would look for a smaller portion of the screen for the dots?

That is just a wild guess.

 

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cheryl Lenartiene
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 1:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

 

Hi,

I am experiencing the same problem as Bret. I could swipe three fingers right, 
all the way across the phone, and MBraille inserts an underscore, no matter how 
quickly or slowly, or how long or short I swipe.I am proficient with VO Braille 
Screen Input, but I would love to use the MBraille keyboard for its powerful 
features. But the inability to dismiss the keyboard stands in my way.

 Also, ever since I upgraded from my iPhone 5C to a 6S Plus, most of what I 
write using the MBraille keyboard doesn't come out correctly. I use MBraille in 
Away Mode, and I suspect that my hands are just too small. The iOS Braille 
keyboard lets you calibrate the dot positions, and that's probably why I've had 
a lot more success using it.

Finally, the split screen view seems to interfere with MBraille. For example, I 
hold the phone in portrait orientation and double tap a text field to reply to 
an iMessage. I then activate the MBraille keyboard and rotate the phone to 
landscape mode, screen facing away from me. The MBraille keyboard is dismissed, 
as the phone switches to the split screen view with contacts on the left and 
conversations on the right.

If anyone has any suggestions to offer regarding any of these issues, I welcome 
them. I would love to use MBraille as a third party keyboard, and not just in 
its standalone form.

Thanks!

 





Cheryl

Rejoice always! Pray continually. Give thanks in everything,

for this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.

1 Thessalonians 5:16-18

HCSB





Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 26, 2016, at 2:50 AM, Brett <brettst...@gmail.com 
<mailto:brettst...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Wow! I am so glad your MBraille experience is different to mine. I bought it 
before iOS braille was introduced and as a standalone app it works well and 
does have more editing features than iOS braille, but as a third-party 
keyboard, it is the buggiest program I have purchased. There is absolutely no 
support from the author at all. 

For me the three finger swipe right to dismiss the MBraille keyboard never 
works. This is replicatable 100 percent of the time. Seriously, if your 
intrested in braille, learn to use the iOS keyboard and don't waist your money 
on purchasing bugs. I have received better support from apps that were free. 

Cheers, Brett. 


Sent from Brett's iPhone




On 26 Jan 2016, at 6:34 PM, 'RobH.' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com 
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > wrote:

 

keep seeing a lot of flack on the mBraille list about  how flaky some of this 
is,  but I took to it and would prefer this method of 

working  than any other. I haven't bought the feature you describe, but worked 
pretty well the last time I tried it,  which is a 

hwile ago now.  But I'm still on their list and  I suppose there's no more 
flack there, than here about the rest of iOs.

 

R.

- Original Message - 

From: "Arnold Schmidt" <arno...@mindspring.com <mailto:arno...@mindspring.com> >

To: <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >

Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 12:23 AM

Subject: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

 

 

I already had MBraille before the Apple Braille keyboard was released, so I 
have not taken the time to learn to use the Apple 

keyboard very well.  I find it to be not quite as refined as is MBraille, 
although that very well could be due to operator 

incompetence.Also, it does not have the word processing ability of 
MBraille.  If I want to edit anything, I have to use the 

regular Apple keyboard editing features, which are not as easy for me to use as 
those in MBraille.

 

A few months ago, I purch

Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Christopher Chaltain]

Not sure why misinformation about Android crept into this thread, but 
there are virtual braille keyboards for Android, including MBraille. 
Just from Googling, there's another one called the Super Braille 
Keyboard. I'm not trying to talk anyone into trying or considering 
Android; I'm just trying to make sure these incorrect assumptions don't 
get spread any further.


On 26/01/16 13:54, Tim Emmons wrote:

That’s what’s keeping me where I’m at. Lol. I have the Kindle Fire but that’s 
the closest to any Android I’m gonna cut it at this point.  Lol. Love the 
braille input and wouldn’t trade it for anything.

On Jan 26, 2016, at 1:50 PM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,
Don't think there's any, hence I'm not even considering android. :)

- Original Message -
From: Tim Emmons  <temmo...@gmail.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 3:37 pm
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?




o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. 
I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for 
Christmas and haven't had anything come close to IOS's braille input. I love it 
and it's an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that's for sure.

On Jan 25, 2016, at 1:23 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,
uncontracted, table top, UEB.

- Original Message -
From: Kevin Chao  <kevincha...@gmail.com>
To: viphone<viphone@googlegroups.com>
Date: Sunday, January 24, 2016 11:35 pm
Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?




Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which 
mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?

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Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[paras shah]

Yes, braille screen input is a great feature. There are some places where
it does not work. If you are in a multi-line edit field it will not let you
go to the next line. For the most part, I use it as my input method.
It is great for writing short emails.
Thanks!
On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 7:26 PM Jennie Facer  wrote:

> I use it on a daily basis. The only problem I find when using it is in
> iMessages. Whenever I tilt the phone to go into away mode, it thinks I want
> to record a message. Any thoughts on how to get rid of this?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jennie Facer
>
> > On Jan 24, 2016, at 4:35 PM, Kevin Chao  wrote:
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Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Brett]

Hi, 

In a multi-line edit field, you can start a new line with iOS braille by doing 
a two finger swipe right. 

Hope this helps, 
Brett. 


Sent from Brett's iPhone

> On 26 Jan 2016, at 5:21 PM, paras shah  wrote:
> 
> Yes, braille screen input is a great feature. There are some places where it 
> does not work. If you are in a multi-line edit field it will not let you go 
> to the next line. For the most part, I use it as my input method.
> It is great for writing short emails.
> Thanks! 
>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 7:26 PM Jennie Facer  wrote:
>> I use it on a daily basis. The only problem I find when using it is in 
>> iMessages. Whenever I tilt the phone to go into away mode, it thinks I want 
>> to record a message. Any thoughts on how to get rid of this?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Jennie Facer
>> 
>> > On Jan 24, 2016, at 4:35 PM, Kevin Chao  wrote:
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>> > Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which 
>> > mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?
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Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Brett]

Wow! I am so glad your MBraille experience is different to mine. I bought it 
before iOS braille was introduced and as a standalone app it works well and 
does have more editing features than iOS braille, but as a third-party 
keyboard, it is the buggiest program I have purchased. There is absolutely no 
support from the author at all. 

For me the three finger swipe right to dismiss the MBraille keyboard never 
works. This is replicatable 100 percent of the time. Seriously, if your 
intrested in braille, learn to use the iOS keyboard and don't waist your money 
on purchasing bugs. I have received better support from apps that were free. 

Cheers, Brett. 


Sent from Brett's iPhone

> On 26 Jan 2016, at 6:34 PM, 'RobH.' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> keep seeing a lot of flack on the mBraille list about  how flaky some of this 
> is,  but I took to it and would prefer this method of 
> working  than any other. I haven't bought the feature you describe, but 
> worked pretty well the last time I tried it,  which is a 
> hwile ago now.  But I'm still on their list and  I suppose there's no more 
> flack there, than here about the rest of iOs.
> 
> R.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Arnold Schmidt" <arno...@mindspring.com>
> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 12:23 AM
> Subject: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> 
> 
> I already had MBraille before the Apple Braille keyboard was released, so I 
> have not taken the time to learn to use the Apple 
> keyboard very well.  I find it to be not quite as refined as is MBraille, 
> although that very well could be due to operator 
> incompetence.Also, it does not have the word processing ability of 
> MBraille.  If I want to edit anything, I have to use the 
> regular Apple keyboard editing features, which are not as easy for me to use 
> as those in MBraille.
> 
> A few months ago, I purchased the option to use MBraille as a third-party 
> keyboard.  At the time, it didn't seem to work very well 
> for me as a third-party keyboard, so I forgot about it until last weekend 
> when, for some reason which I do not remember now, I 
> decided to try it again.  I deleted that emogey  keyboard which I never used, 
> and enabled MBraille as a third-party keyboard.  It 
> works well. Now, when I am in a text field, I can tap the next keyboard 
> button, and although the transition to MBraille is 
> occasionally a bit flakey, more often than not, it goes right into MBraille.  
> I write my text, am enable to correct any errors or do 
> any word processing I wish to do with MBraille. Then, I Place my fingers onto 
> the keyboard as if I were going to write dots 4-5-6, 
> and do a three-finger swipe right (being in landscape mode, I mean a 
> three-finger swipe toward the home button.)  It then inserts my 
> text into the text field, and I am back in the regular keyboard.  No more 
> copying and pasting.
> 
> Arnold Schmidt
>  ----- Original Message - 
>  From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
>  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>  Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 11:59 AM
>  Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> 
> 
>  Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I 
> love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is 
> more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user 
> perspective and the errors could be mine!
> 
>  I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit 
> tricky to use it in this way, because of the other 
> keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! 
> Anyway, I quite often use the old method too, so I can open 
> the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier 
> and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper 
> key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the 
> Braille app by Apple which you can include on the 
> rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" " because it's the only thing that 
> really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient 
> with anything other than this.
> 
>  If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! 
> Carol P
>  Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
> 
>  On 25 Jan 2016, at 3:37 pm, Tim Emmons <temmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>  o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and 
> IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for 
> the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven’t had anything come close to 
> IOS’s braille input. I love it and it’s an invaluable 
> tool for me on a daily basis, th

Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

 keep seeing a lot of flack on the mBraille list about  how flaky some of this 
is,  but I took to it and would prefer this method of 
working  than any other. I haven't bought the feature you describe, but worked 
pretty well the last time I tried it,  which is a 
hwile ago now.  But I'm still on their list and  I suppose there's no more 
flack there, than here about the rest of iOs.

R.
- Original Message - 
From: "Arnold Schmidt" <arno...@mindspring.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 12:23 AM
Subject: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?


I already had MBraille before the Apple Braille keyboard was released, so I 
have not taken the time to learn to use the Apple 
keyboard very well.  I find it to be not quite as refined as is MBraille, 
although that very well could be due to operator 
incompetence.Also, it does not have the word processing ability of 
MBraille.  If I want to edit anything, I have to use the 
regular Apple keyboard editing features, which are not as easy for me to use as 
those in MBraille.

A few months ago, I purchased the option to use MBraille as a third-party 
keyboard.  At the time, it didn't seem to work very well 
for me as a third-party keyboard, so I forgot about it until last weekend when, 
for some reason which I do not remember now, I 
decided to try it again.  I deleted that emogey  keyboard which I never used, 
and enabled MBraille as a third-party keyboard.  It 
works well. Now, when I am in a text field, I can tap the next keyboard button, 
and although the transition to MBraille is 
occasionally a bit flakey, more often than not, it goes right into MBraille.  I 
write my text, am enable to correct any errors or do 
any word processing I wish to do with MBraille. Then, I Place my fingers onto 
the keyboard as if I were going to write dots 4-5-6, 
and do a three-finger swipe right (being in landscape mode, I mean a 
three-finger swipe toward the home button.)  It then inserts my 
text into the text field, and I am back in the regular keyboard.  No more 
copying and pasting.

Arnold Schmidt
  - Original Message - 
  From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 11:59 AM
  Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?


  Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I 
love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is 
more accurate than the Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user 
perspective and the errors could be mine!

  I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky 
to use it in this way, because of the other 
keyboards that are already installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, 
I quite often use the old method too, so I can open 
the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because in some ways it is easier 
and I like it better! What I do like is to have proper 
key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of the 
Braille app by Apple which you can include on the 
rotor. By the way, I use the "away mode" " because it's the only thing that 
really works for me. I can't imagine becoming proficient 
with anything other than this.

  If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! 
Carol P
  Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

  On 25 Jan 2016, at 3:37 pm, Tim Emmons <temmo...@gmail.com> wrote:


  o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and 
IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for 
the Kindle Fire I got for Christmas and haven’t had anything come close to 
IOS’s braille input. I love it and it’s an invaluable 
tool for me on a daily basis, that’s for sure.

On Jan 25, 2016, at 1:23 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:



Hello,

uncontracted, table top, UEB.



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Date: Sunday, January 24, 2016 11:35 pm

Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?







  Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which 
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Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Paul Hunt]

Hello everybody.
I've tried it and haven't been very successful. Here are my questions.
1. How do I recalibrate?
2. What typing modes are available in the braille screen input mode?
3. What techniques helped you to become proficient? Thanks so much. 

> On Jan 25, 2016, at 1:23 AM, Rajmund  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> uncontracted, table top, UEB.
> 
> - Original Message -
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> To: viphone
> Date: Sunday, January 24, 2016 11:35 pm
> Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
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Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[christopher hallsworth]

Same here. Too cramped on an iPhone or iPod Touch. Who knows if I get a bigger 
iPhone, not very likely but hey, I may start brailling on it more.
> On 25 Jan 2016, at 16:36, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Well said. I still double tap on the iPhone, but its because its kinda small, 
> I always braille  on the iPad.
> 
> - Original Message -
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:17 am
> Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> 
>> 
>> 
>> I do, almost exclusively. I always use it in away mode. I only use the 
>> native keyboard when I have to go one handed. For Example, texting when 
>> walking around with my cane in the other hand. 
>> 
>> iOS braille is so much faster for me and I get much less errors. 
>> 
>> Cheers, 
>> Brett. 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Brett's iPhone
>> 
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Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Rajmund]

Hello,
Well said. I still double tap on the iPhone, but its because its kinda small, I 
always braille  on the iPad.

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:17 am
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

>
>
> I do, almost exclusively. I always use it in away mode. I only use the native 
> keyboard when I have to go one handed. For Example, texting when walking 
> around with my cane in the other hand. 
> 
> iOS braille is so much faster for me and I get much less errors. 
> 
> Cheers, 
> Brett. 
> 
> 
> Sent from Brett's iPhone
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> > On 25 Jan 2016, at 10:35 AM, Kevin Chao <kevincha...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

['Carol Pearson' via VIPhone]

Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I 
love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the 
Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the 
errors could be mine!

I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky 
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installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old 
method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because 
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proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of 
the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use 
the "away mode" " because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't 
imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this. 

If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

On 25 Jan 2016, at 3:37 pm, Tim Emmons  wrote:

o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. 
I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for 
Christmas and haven’t had anything come close to IOS’s braille input. I love it 
and it’s an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that’s for sure. 
> On Jan 25, 2016, at 1:23 AM, Rajmund  wrote:
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> Hello,
> uncontracted, table top, UEB.
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> Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
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Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Tim Emmons]

 o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and IPhone. 
I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got for 
Christmas and haven’t had anything come close to IOS’s braille input. I love it 
and it’s an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that’s for sure. 
> On Jan 25, 2016, at 1:23 AM, Rajmund  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> uncontracted, table top, UEB.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Kevin Chao  
> To: viphone
> Date: Sunday, January 24, 2016 11:35 pm
> Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
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RE: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[rubyalphonse]

I use Braille screne input six dots  and even contracted in screne away mode. I 
use very frequently for text messages Emails notes and to search on the web. 
Ruby 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
christopher hallsworth
Sent: 25 January 2016 13:27
To: Viphone
Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

I use it on iPad, tabletop mode, six dot, orientation locked.
> On 24 Jan 2016, at 23:35, Kevin Chao <kevincha...@gmail.com> wrote:
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Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Dani Pagador]

Hi.
I love the Braille Screen input option, especially because I can edit
as I go and understand what's happening. I don't have to worry about
whether I'm inadvertently inputting unwanted text. I use it when I'm
working with y iPod Touch away from my Braille display, tabletop mode,
uncontracted UEB.

More Later,
Dani

On 1/25/16, christopher hallsworth <challswor...@icloud.com> wrote:
> Same here. Too cramped on an iPhone or iPod Touch. Who knows if I get a
> bigger iPhone, not very likely but hey, I may start brailling on it more.
>> On 25 Jan 2016, at 16:36, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>> Well said. I still double tap on the iPhone, but its because its kinda
>> small, I always braille  on the iPad.
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Brett  <brettst...@gmail.com>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Date: Monday, January 25, 2016 1:17 am
>> Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I do, almost exclusively. I always use it in away mode. I only use the
>>> native keyboard when I have to go one handed. For Example, texting when
>>> walking around with my cane in the other hand.
>>>
>>> iOS braille is so much faster for me and I get much less errors.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Brett.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from Brett's iPhone
>>>
>>>> On 25 Jan 2016, at 10:35 AM, Kevin Chao <kevincha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which
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Re: MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Richard Turner]

I too prefer mBraille over the Apple braille keyboard.
It is worth the price and time to learn given all it can do.
Richard


Sent from my iPod

> On Jan 25, 2016, at 4:25 PM, Arnold Schmidt <arno...@mindspring.com> wrote:
> 
> I already had MBraille before the Apple Braille keyboard was released, so I 
> have not taken the time to learn to use the Apple keyboard very well.  I find 
> it to be not quite as refined as is MBraille, although that very well could 
> be due to operator incompetence.Also, it does not have the word 
> processing ability of MBraille.  If I want to edit anything, I have to use 
> the regular Apple keyboard editing features, which are not as easy for me to 
> use as those in MBraille. 
>  
> A few months ago, I purchased the option to use MBraille as a third-party 
> keyboard.  At the time, it didn't seem to work very well for me as a 
> third-party keyboard, so I forgot about it until last weekend when, for some 
> reason which I do not remember now, I decided to try it again.  I deleted 
> that emogey  keyboard which I never used, and enabled MBraille as a 
> third-party keyboard.  It works well. Now, when I am in a text field, I can 
> tap the next keyboard button, and although the transition to MBraille is 
> occasionally a bit flakey, more often than not, it goes right into MBraille.  
> I write my text, am enable to correct any errors or do any word processing I 
> wish to do with MBraille. Then, I Place my fingers onto the keyboard as if I 
> were going to write dots 4-5-6, and do a three-finger swipe right (being in 
> landscape mode, I mean a three-finger swipe toward the home button.)  It then 
> inserts my text into the text field, and I am back in the regular keyboard.  
> No more copying and pasting.
>  
> Arnold Schmidt 
> - Original Message -
> From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 11:59 AM
> Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
> 
> Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I 
> love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the 
> Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the 
> errors could be mine!
> 
> I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky 
> to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already 
> installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old 
> method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because 
> in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have 
> proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments 
> of the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I 
> use the "away mode" " because it's the only thing that really works for me. I 
> can't imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this. 
> 
> If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! 
> Carol P
> Sent from my iPhone using MBraille
> 
> On 25 Jan 2016, at 3:37 pm, Tim Emmons <temmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and 
> IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I 
> got for Christmas and haven’t had anything come close to IOS’s braille input. 
> I love it and it’s an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that’s for 
> sure. 
>>> On Jan 25, 2016, at 1:23 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> uncontracted, table top, UEB.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Kevin Chao  <kevincha...@gmail.com>
>> To: viphone<viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Date: Sunday, January 24, 2016 11:35 pm
>> Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?
>>> Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which 
>>> mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?
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Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Jennie Facer]

I use it on a daily basis. The only problem I find when using it is in 
iMessages. Whenever I tilt the phone to go into away mode, it thinks I want to 
record a message. Any thoughts on how to get rid of this?

Thanks,

Jennie Facer

> On Jan 24, 2016, at 4:35 PM, Kevin Chao  wrote:
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MBraille Suggestion, was Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Arnold Schmidt]

I already had MBraille before the Apple Braille keyboard was released, so I 
have not taken the time to learn to use the Apple keyboard very well.  I find 
it to be not quite as refined as is MBraille, although that very well could be 
due to operator incompetence.Also, it does not have the word processing 
ability of MBraille.  If I want to edit anything, I have to use the regular 
Apple keyboard editing features, which are not as easy for me to use as those 
in MBraille.  

A few months ago, I purchased the option to use MBraille as a third-party 
keyboard.  At the time, it didn't seem to work very well for me as a 
third-party keyboard, so I forgot about it until last weekend when, for some 
reason which I do not remember now, I decided to try it again.  I deleted that 
emogey  keyboard which I never used, and enabled MBraille as a third-party 
keyboard.  It works well. Now, when I am in a text field, I can tap the next 
keyboard button, and although the transition to MBraille is occasionally a bit 
flakey, more often than not, it goes right into MBraille.  I write my text, am 
enable to correct any errors or do any word processing I wish to do with 
MBraille. Then, I Place my fingers onto the keyboard as if I were going to 
write dots 4-5-6, and do a three-finger swipe right (being in landscape mode, I 
mean a three-finger swipe toward the home button.)  It then inserts my text 
into the text field, and I am back in the regular keyboard.  No more copying 
and pasting.

Arnold Schmidt  
  - Original Message - 
  From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 11:59 AM
  Subject: Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?


  Yes, I do use both the MBraille and the Apple supplied on-board keyboard. I 
love MBraille a lot, in fact most days. I think it is more accurate than the 
Apple on-board keyboard. Maybe, though, that is a user perspective and the 
errors could be mine!

  I am not too keen on using it as an extra keyboard, because it's a bit tricky 
to use it in this way, because of the other keyboards that are already 
installed. I wish it could be on the rotor! Anyway, I quite often use the old 
method too, so I can open the app and then cut and paste accordingly, because 
in some ways it is easier and I like it better! What I do like is to have 
proper key clicks when typing. I'm afraid this is one of the disappointments of 
the Braille app by Apple which you can include on the rotor. By the way, I use 
the "away mode" " because it's the only thing that really works for me. I can't 
imagine becoming proficient with anything other than this. 

  If you have any further questions, do come back. I hope this is helpful! 
Carol P
  Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

  On 25 Jan 2016, at 3:37 pm, Tim Emmons <temmo...@gmail.com> wrote:


  o, landscape, away mode, orientation locked. six dot. On both iPad and 
IPhone. I tried to find an alternative to that input for the Kindle Fire I got 
for Christmas and haven’t had anything come close to IOS’s braille input. I 
love it and it’s an invaluable tool for me on a daily basis, that’s for sure. 

On Jan 25, 2016, at 1:23 AM, Rajmund <brajmund2...@gmail.com> wrote:



Hello,

uncontracted, table top, UEB.



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From: Kevin Chao  <kevincha...@gmail.com>

To: viphone<viphone@googlegroups.com>

Date: Sunday, January 24, 2016 11:35 pm

Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?







  Out of curiosity, how many use VO Braille screen input, and in which 
mode/orientation (screen away or table top)?



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Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Brett]

I do, almost exclusively. I always use it in away mode. I only use the native 
keyboard when I have to go one handed. For Example, texting when walking around 
with my cane in the other hand. 

iOS braille is so much faster for me and I get much less errors. 

Cheers, 
Brett. 


Sent from Brett's iPhone

> On 25 Jan 2016, at 10:35 AM, Kevin Chao  wrote:
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Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[christopher hallsworth]

I use it on iPad, tabletop mode, six dot, orientation locked.
> On 24 Jan 2016, at 23:35, Kevin Chao  wrote:
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Re: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

[Rajmund]

Hello,
uncontracted, table top, UEB.

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To: viphone
Date: Sunday, January 24, 2016 11:35 pm
Subject: How many use VO Braille Screen Input?

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Sent from a Braille Sense 

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