Re: Seeing AI Help, entire help documentation
Richard is a good man. Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!! > On Apr 10, 2018, at 3:01 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > > Richard graciously took the time to compile the entire Seeing AI help > documentation and posted it here yesterday. In many channels such as short > text, document, product etc. you don’t manually take a picture, the camera > will take the picture for you automatically when, for example, it sees all of > a barcode or all 4 corners of a document. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Johnna > Simmons > Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 6:41 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Seeing AI Help, entire help documentation > > I have search this app over and over I don’t mind the different channels and > you can swipe up to choose that channel but how do you take a picture of what > is in front of you I don’t see a take picture but. > > Live the life you want. Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 9, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote: > > > Karen, > I'm glad the video links worked, that is good to know since I simply used the > Text Selection on the rotor with the Seeing AI help open and did a select all > and then copied that to the clipboard and pasted. > If you go into photos, select one, double tap on share, there should be an > option to either open in another app, or Seeing AI should show up as one > place to share the photo. > If that isn't working, perhaps calling Apple Accessibility? > I've done it quite a bit. > Richard > > > > “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” > - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1 > > On Apr 9, 2018, at 8:15 AM, Karen Poulakos <ka...@poulakos.com> wrote: > > This is Great! I was even able to access the video links on my laptop. > > Has anyone been able to get Seeing AI to recognize photos saved on your > phone? I don’t seem to be able to access Seeing AI from the photos app. > > Karen P > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Richard Turner > Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 8:41 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Seeing AI Help, entire help documentation > > > > Below I have copied the entire Seeing AI help. To read it section by section, > in the app, Double Tap on the menu button and select Help. > Or, in each channel, the Quick Help button plays the video by the developer > explaining that specific channel. > Here is the help information, though the "play video" lines should be ignored > as they are only active when in the app's help section. > > Seeing AI > Seeing AI describes the people, text, and objects around you. > > Using your phone’s camera, the app says what it "sees". Seeing AI uses > multiple channels to announce different information, such as reading text or > describing faces. > > On some channels, Seeing AI will automatically read what it sees. Other times > you may need to take a photo to get a description of the image. > > To help you position your phone for the best results, Seeing AI can also > describe where people or objects are in the camera’s field of vision. This > feature isn’t available for all channels. > > Seeing AI is an ongoing research project. To help us to improve it, please > send your feedback. > > Play the video tutorial > > Available Channels > > > Short Text > > Hold the camera over some text to have it automatically read to you. As new > text comes into view, it will also be read out loud. > > While reading out loud, Seeing AI may start again from the beginning if the > camera captures a clearer image of the text. > > Play the video tutorial > > Document > > Hold the camera over a printed page to capture it. After the text has been > recognized, you can use VoiceOver commands to navigate it. > > Seeing AI will guide you with camera placement until all edges of a document > are visible and the photo is taken. Make the necessary adjustments until you > hear “Hold steady”. > > A good technique is to place the camera in the center of the page, and slowly > move it away, making slight adjustments. > > This channel works best when there’s a high contrast between the page and the > background, like a white document on a dark surface . > > Once the text has been recognized, use the play button to have the text read > aloud, with syncronized word highlighting. Use the plus and minus buttons to > change the size of the text. > > Play the video tutorial &g
RE: Seeing AI Help, entire help documentation
Richard graciously took the time to compile the entire Seeing AI help documentation and posted it here yesterday. In many channels such as short text, document, product etc. you don’t manually take a picture, the camera will take the picture for you automatically when, for example, it sees all of a barcode or all 4 corners of a document. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Johnna Simmons Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 6:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Seeing AI Help, entire help documentation I have search this app over and over I don’t mind the different channels and you can swipe up to choose that channel but how do you take a picture of what is in front of you I don’t see a take picture but. Live the life you want. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 9, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: Karen, I'm glad the video links worked, that is good to know since I simply used the Text Selection on the rotor with the Seeing AI help open and did a select all and then copied that to the clipboard and pasted. If you go into photos, select one, double tap on share, there should be an option to either open in another app, or Seeing AI should show up as one place to share the photo. If that isn't working, perhaps calling Apple Accessibility? I've done it quite a bit. Richard “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1 On Apr 9, 2018, at 8:15 AM, Karen Poulakos <ka...@poulakos.com<mailto:ka...@poulakos.com>> wrote: This is Great! I was even able to access the video links on my laptop. Has anyone been able to get Seeing AI to recognize photos saved on your phone? I don’t seem to be able to access Seeing AI from the photos app. Karen P From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 8:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Seeing AI Help, entire help documentation Below I have copied the entire Seeing AI help. To read it section by section, in the app, Double Tap on the menu button and select Help. Or, in each channel, the Quick Help button plays the video by the developer explaining that specific channel. Here is the help information, though the "play video" lines should be ignored as they are only active when in the app's help section. Seeing AI Seeing AI describes the people, text, and objects around you. Using your phone’s camera, the app says what it "sees". Seeing AI uses multiple channels to announce different information, such as reading text or describing faces. On some channels, Seeing AI will automatically read what it sees. Other times you may need to take a photo to get a description of the image. To help you position your phone for the best results, Seeing AI can also describe where people or objects are in the camera’s field of vision. This feature isn’t available for all channels. Seeing AI is an ongoing research project. To help us to improve it, please send your feedback. [cid:] Play the video tutorial<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2FSeeingAITutorialIntro=02%7C01%7C%7C048fe933374b494f7b9208d59e2cc656%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636588837494452469=ptb5e8bzZD0DIJepLoZc989bcqvPyOQb4y3wxWpQ04I%3D=0> Available Channels [Carousel showing available channels] Short Text Hold the camera over some text to have it automatically read to you. As new text comes into view, it will also be read out loud. While reading out loud, Seeing AI may start again from the beginning if the camera captures a clearer image of the text. [cid:] Play the video tutorial<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2FSeeingAITutorialShortText=02%7C01%7C%7C048fe933374b494f7b9208d59e2cc656%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636588837494452469=AcF8g9zWVq1B9KCvBwIgDu4JT%2FKey8l6hTZqyNMKj7k%3D=0> Document Hold the camera over a printed page to capture it. After the text has been recognized, you can use VoiceOver commands to navigate it. Seeing AI will guide you with camera placement until all edges of a document are visible and the photo is taken. Make the necessary adjustments until you hear “Hold steady”. A good technique is to place the camera in the center of the page, and slowly move it away, making slight adjustments. This channel works best when there’s a high contrast between the page and the background, like a white document on a dark surface . Once the text has been recognized, use the play button to have the text read aloud, with syncronized word highlighting. Use the plus and minus buttons to change the size of the text. [cid:] Play the video
RE: Seeing AI Help, entire help documentation
Did you read the help file? On the ShortText, Document, Product channel, Currency, Light, and I think Color, you do not need to take a picture, just point the camera. On the others, once you have flicked up to the channel you want, flick left to the take picture button and double tap. HTH, Richard “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1 From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Johnna Simmons Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2018 6:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Seeing AI Help, entire help documentation I have search this app over and over I don’t mind the different channels and you can swipe up to choose that channel but how do you take a picture of what is in front of you I don’t see a take picture but. Live the life you want. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 9, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com<mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: Karen, I'm glad the video links worked, that is good to know since I simply used the Text Selection on the rotor with the Seeing AI help open and did a select all and then copied that to the clipboard and pasted. If you go into photos, select one, double tap on share, there should be an option to either open in another app, or Seeing AI should show up as one place to share the photo. If that isn't working, perhaps calling Apple Accessibility? I've done it quite a bit. Richard “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1 On Apr 9, 2018, at 8:15 AM, Karen Poulakos <ka...@poulakos.com<mailto:ka...@poulakos.com>> wrote: This is Great! I was even able to access the video links on my laptop. Has anyone been able to get Seeing AI to recognize photos saved on your phone? I don’t seem to be able to access Seeing AI from the photos app. Karen P From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 8:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Seeing AI Help, entire help documentation Below I have copied the entire Seeing AI help. To read it section by section, in the app, Double Tap on the menu button and select Help. Or, in each channel, the Quick Help button plays the video by the developer explaining that specific channel. Here is the help information, though the "play video" lines should be ignored as they are only active when in the app's help section. Seeing AI Seeing AI describes the people, text, and objects around you. Using your phone’s camera, the app says what it "sees". Seeing AI uses multiple channels to announce different information, such as reading text or describing faces. On some channels, Seeing AI will automatically read what it sees. Other times you may need to take a photo to get a description of the image. To help you position your phone for the best results, Seeing AI can also describe where people or objects are in the camera’s field of vision. This feature isn’t available for all channels. Seeing AI is an ongoing research project. To help us to improve it, please send your feedback. [cid:] Play the video tutorial<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2FSeeingAITutorialIntro=02%7C01%7C%7C048fe933374b494f7b9208d59e2cc656%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636588837494452469=ptb5e8bzZD0DIJepLoZc989bcqvPyOQb4y3wxWpQ04I%3D=0> Available Channels [Carousel showing available channels] Short Text Hold the camera over some text to have it automatically read to you. As new text comes into view, it will also be read out loud. While reading out loud, Seeing AI may start again from the beginning if the camera captures a clearer image of the text. [cid:] Play the video tutorial<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2FSeeingAITutorialShortText=02%7C01%7C%7C048fe933374b494f7b9208d59e2cc656%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636588837494452469=AcF8g9zWVq1B9KCvBwIgDu4JT%2FKey8l6hTZqyNMKj7k%3D=0> Document Hold the camera over a printed page to capture it. After the text has been recognized, you can use VoiceOver commands to navigate it. Seeing AI will guide you with camera placement until all edges of a document are visible and the photo is taken. Make the necessary adjustments until you hear “Hold steady”. A good technique is to place the camera in the center of the page, and slowly move it away, making slight adjustments. This channel works best when there’s a high contrast between the page and the background, like a white document on a dark surface . Once the text has been recognized, use the play button to have the text read aloud, with syncron
Re: Seeing AI Help, entire help documentation
I have search this app over and over I don’t mind the different channels and you can swipe up to choose that channel but how do you take a picture of what is in front of you I don’t see a take picture but. Live the life you want. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 9, 2018, at 12:50 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote: > > > Karen, > I'm glad the video links worked, that is good to know since I simply used the > Text Selection on the rotor with the Seeing AI help open and did a select all > and then copied that to the clipboard and pasted. > If you go into photos, select one, double tap on share, there should be an > option to either open in another app, or Seeing AI should show up as one > place to share the photo. > If that isn't working, perhaps calling Apple Accessibility? > I've done it quite a bit. > Richard > > > > “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” > - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1 > > On Apr 9, 2018, at 8:15 AM, Karen Poulakos <ka...@poulakos.com> wrote: > >> This is Great! I was even able to access the video links on my laptop. >> >> Has anyone been able to get Seeing AI to recognize photos saved on your >> phone? I don’t seem to be able to access Seeing AI from the photos app. >> >> Karen P >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Richard Turner >> Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 8:41 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Seeing AI Help, entire help documentation >> >> >> >> Below I have copied the entire Seeing AI help. To read it section by >> section, in the app, Double Tap on the menu button and select Help. >> Or, in each channel, the Quick Help button plays the video by the developer >> explaining that specific channel. >> Here is the help information, though the "play video" lines should be >> ignored as they are only active when in the app's help section. >> >> Seeing AI >> Seeing AI describes the people, text, and objects around you. >> >> Using your phone’s camera, the app says what it "sees". Seeing AI uses >> multiple channels to announce different information, such as reading text or >> describing faces. >> >> On some channels, Seeing AI will automatically read what it sees. Other >> times you may need to take a photo to get a description of the image. >> >> To help you position your phone for the best results, Seeing AI can also >> describe where people or objects are in the camera’s field of vision. This >> feature isn’t available for all channels. >> >> Seeing AI is an ongoing research project. To help us to improve it, please >> send your feedback. >> >> Play the video tutorial >> >> Available Channels >> >> >> Short Text >> >> Hold the camera over some text to have it automatically read to you. As new >> text comes into view, it will also be read out loud. >> >> While reading out loud, Seeing AI may start again from the beginning if the >> camera captures a clearer image of the text. >> >> Play the video tutorial >> >> Document >> >> Hold the camera over a printed page to capture it. After the text has been >> recognized, you can use VoiceOver commands to navigate it. >> >> Seeing AI will guide you with camera placement until all edges of a document >> are visible and the photo is taken. Make the necessary adjustments until you >> hear “Hold steady”. >> >> A good technique is to place the camera in the center of the page, and >> slowly move it away, making slight adjustments. >> >> This channel works best when there’s a high contrast between the page and >> the background, like a white document on a dark surface . >> >> Once the text has been recognized, use the play button to have the text read >> aloud, with syncronized word highlighting. Use the plus and minus buttons to >> change the size of the text. >> >> Play the video tutorial >> >> Product >> >> Hold the camera over a barcode to hear the product name. Seeing AI will >> guide you with the camera placement until a barcode is detected: >> >> Move the phone over the product until you hear beeps that indicate a barcode >> is nearby. Starting farther away and slowly moving the phone closer works >> best. >> The faster the beeps, the closer you are to the barcode. >> When a barcode is detected, Seeing AI will say the
Re: Seeing AI Help, entire help documentation
Richard, thank you for compiling this. You’ve just given me another ap to explore. lol! From: Richard Turner Sent: Monday, April 09, 2018 9:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Seeing AI Help, entire help documentation Below I have copied the entire Seeing AI help. To read it section by section, in the app, Double Tap on the menu button and select Help. Or, in each channel, the Quick Help button plays the video by the developer explaining that specific channel. Here is the help information, though the "play video" lines should be ignored as they are only active when in the app's help section. Seeing AI Seeing AI describes the people, text, and objects around you. Using your phone’s camera, the app says what it "sees". Seeing AI uses multiple channels to announce different information, such as reading text or describing faces. On some channels, Seeing AI will automatically read what it sees. Other times you may need to take a photo to get a description of the image. To help you position your phone for the best results, Seeing AI can also describe where people or objects are in the camera’s field of vision. This feature isn’t available for all channels. Seeing AI is an ongoing research project. To help us to improve it, please send your feedback. Play the video tutorial Available Channels Short Text Hold the camera over some text to have it automatically read to you. As new text comes into view, it will also be read out loud. While reading out loud, Seeing AI may start again from the beginning if the camera captures a clearer image of the text. Play the video tutorial Document Hold the camera over a printed page to capture it. After the text has been recognized, you can use VoiceOver commands to navigate it. Seeing AI will guide you with camera placement until all edges of a document are visible and the photo is taken. Make the necessary adjustments until you hear “Hold steady”. A good technique is to place the camera in the center of the page, and slowly move it away, making slight adjustments. This channel works best when there’s a high contrast between the page and the background, like a white document on a dark surface . Once the text has been recognized, use the play button to have the text read aloud, with syncronized word highlighting. Use the plus and minus buttons to change the size of the text. Play the video tutorial Product Hold the camera over a barcode to hear the product name. Seeing AI will guide you with the camera placement until a barcode is detected: a.. Move the phone over the product until you hear beeps that indicate a barcode is nearby. Starting farther away and slowly moving the phone closer works best. b.. The faster the beeps, the closer you are to the barcode. c.. When a barcode is detected, Seeing AI will say the product name. d.. If additional information about the product is available, the More Info button will be available. Note: This channel is not available if running iOS 10 on an iPhone 5, 5C, or earlier. Play the video tutorial Person Scan your surroundings to find out how many people are around you, how close they are, and their facial expressions. If you’ve taught the app to recognize a particular person, their name will be announced when they come into view. You can teach Seeing AI to recognize someone by selecting Face Recognition in the menu. Seeing AI will also tell you the position of each face it detects, which can be helpful for centering a person in the camera’s view when taking a photo. After taking a photo, Seeing AI will give you an estimate of the person’s facial characteristics and expressions. If you want to take a selfie, use the button on the main screen to change to the front-facing camera. Play the video tutorial Teaching Seeing AI to Recognize Someone When using the Person channel, Face Recognition can tell you who is near you. Instead of hearing, “One face near center, 4 feet away” you’ll hear their name: “John near center, 4 feet away”. It’s recommended that you ask people for permission before you train Seeing AI to recognize them. To teach Seeing AI to recognize a person’s face, open Face Recognition in the menu. Take three photos of the person and enter their name. We suggest asking them to take the photos of themselves. By default, the front-facing camera is active when using Face Recognition. If you're taking photos of someone else, switch to the back-facing camera. Currency (preview) This is an experimental channel, so please use caution. Currency recognition isn’t always correct, have someone you trust confirm a note’s value. Hold the camera over a single note to hear the estimated value. Use the button on the main screen to select which currency should be recognized. Let us know if you wish to recognize a currency that isn't listed — more will be added over time. Please note: Seeing AI will not differentiate between
Re: Seeing AI Help, entire help documentation
Karen, I'm glad the video links worked, that is good to know since I simply used the Text Selection on the rotor with the Seeing AI help open and did a select all and then copied that to the clipboard and pasted. If you go into photos, select one, double tap on share, there should be an option to either open in another app, or Seeing AI should show up as one place to share the photo. If that isn't working, perhaps calling Apple Accessibility? I've done it quite a bit. Richard “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1 On Apr 9, 2018, at 8:15 AM, Karen Poulakos <ka...@poulakos.com<mailto:ka...@poulakos.com>> wrote: This is Great! I was even able to access the video links on my laptop. Has anyone been able to get Seeing AI to recognize photos saved on your phone? I don’t seem to be able to access Seeing AI from the photos app. Karen P From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 8:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Seeing AI Help, entire help documentation Below I have copied the entire Seeing AI help. To read it section by section, in the app, Double Tap on the menu button and select Help. Or, in each channel, the Quick Help button plays the video by the developer explaining that specific channel. Here is the help information, though the "play video" lines should be ignored as they are only active when in the app's help section. Seeing AI Seeing AI describes the people, text, and objects around you. Using your phone’s camera, the app says what it "sees". Seeing AI uses multiple channels to announce different information, such as reading text or describing faces. On some channels, Seeing AI will automatically read what it sees. Other times you may need to take a photo to get a description of the image. To help you position your phone for the best results, Seeing AI can also describe where people or objects are in the camera’s field of vision. This feature isn’t available for all channels. Seeing AI is an ongoing research project. To help us to improve it, please send your feedback. [cid:] Play the video tutorial<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2FSeeingAITutorialIntro=02%7C01%7C%7C048fe933374b494f7b9208d59e2cc656%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636588837494452469=ptb5e8bzZD0DIJepLoZc989bcqvPyOQb4y3wxWpQ04I%3D=0> Available Channels [Carousel showing available channels] Short Text Hold the camera over some text to have it automatically read to you. As new text comes into view, it will also be read out loud. While reading out loud, Seeing AI may start again from the beginning if the camera captures a clearer image of the text. [cid:] Play the video tutorial<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2FSeeingAITutorialShortText=02%7C01%7C%7C048fe933374b494f7b9208d59e2cc656%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636588837494452469=AcF8g9zWVq1B9KCvBwIgDu4JT%2FKey8l6hTZqyNMKj7k%3D=0> Document Hold the camera over a printed page to capture it. After the text has been recognized, you can use VoiceOver commands to navigate it. Seeing AI will guide you with camera placement until all edges of a document are visible and the photo is taken. Make the necessary adjustments until you hear “Hold steady”. A good technique is to place the camera in the center of the page, and slowly move it away, making slight adjustments. This channel works best when there’s a high contrast between the page and the background, like a white document on a dark surface . Once the text has been recognized, use the play button to have the text read aloud, with syncronized word highlighting. Use the plus and minus buttons to change the size of the text. [cid:] Play the video tutorial<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faka.ms%2FSeeingAITutorialDocument=02%7C01%7C%7C048fe933374b494f7b9208d59e2cc656%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636588837494452469=YKSbo9IWmq%2B1%2BOBkEsgc377PMKgjAAjMvwv7gz3NPWc%3D=0> Product Hold the camera over a barcode to hear the product name. Seeing AI will guide you with the camera placement until a barcode is detected: * Move the phone over the product until you hear beeps that indicate a barcode is nearby. Starting farther away and slowly moving the phone closer works best. * The faster the beeps, the closer you are to the barcode. * When a barcode is detected, Seeing AI will say the product name. * If additional information about the product is available, the More Info button will be available. Note: This channel is not available if running iOS 10 on an iPhone 5, 5C, or earlier. [cid:] Play the video
RE: Seeing AI Help, entire help documentation
This is Great! I was even able to access the video links on my laptop. Has anyone been able to get Seeing AI to recognize photos saved on your phone? I don’t seem to be able to access Seeing AI from the photos app. Karen P From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 8:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Seeing AI Help, entire help documentation Below I have copied the entire Seeing AI help. To read it section by section, in the app, Double Tap on the menu button and select Help. Or, in each channel, the Quick Help button plays the video by the developer explaining that specific channel. Here is the help information, though the "play video" lines should be ignored as they are only active when in the app's help section. Seeing AI Seeing AI describes the people, text, and objects around you. Using your phone’s camera, the app says what it "sees". Seeing AI uses multiple channels to announce different information, such as reading text or describing faces. On some channels, Seeing AI will automatically read what it sees. Other times you may need to take a photo to get a description of the image. To help you position your phone for the best results, Seeing AI can also describe where people or objects are in the camera’s field of vision. This feature isn’t available for all channels. Seeing AI is an ongoing research project. To help us to improve it, please send your feedback. <https://aka.ms/SeeingAITutorialIntro> Play the video tutorial Available Channels Carousel showing available channels Short Text Hold the camera over some text to have it automatically read to you. As new text comes into view, it will also be read out loud. While reading out loud, Seeing AI may start again from the beginning if the camera captures a clearer image of the text. <https://aka.ms/SeeingAITutorialShortText> Play the video tutorial Document Hold the camera over a printed page to capture it. After the text has been recognized, you can use VoiceOver commands to navigate it. Seeing AI will guide you with camera placement until all edges of a document are visible and the photo is taken. Make the necessary adjustments until you hear “Hold steady”. A good technique is to place the camera in the center of the page, and slowly move it away, making slight adjustments. This channel works best when there’s a high contrast between the page and the background, like a white document on a dark surface . Once the text has been recognized, use the play button to have the text read aloud, with syncronized word highlighting. Use the plus and minus buttons to change the size of the text. <https://aka.ms/SeeingAITutorialDocument> Play the video tutorial Product Hold the camera over a barcode to hear the product name. Seeing AI will guide you with the camera placement until a barcode is detected: * Move the phone over the product until you hear beeps that indicate a barcode is nearby. Starting farther away and slowly moving the phone closer works best. * The faster the beeps, the closer you are to the barcode. * When a barcode is detected, Seeing AI will say the product name. * If additional information about the product is available, the More Info button will be available. Note: This channel is not available if running iOS 10 on an iPhone 5, 5C, or earlier. <https://aka.ms/SeeingAITutorialProduct> Play the video tutorial Person Scan your surroundings to find out how many people are around you, how close they are, and their facial expressions. If you’ve taught the app to recognize a particular person, their name will be announced when they come into view. You can teach Seeing AI to recognize someone by selecting Face Recognition in the menu. Seeing AI will also tell you the position of each face it detects, which can be helpful for centering a person in the camera’s view when taking a photo. After taking a photo, Seeing AI will give you an estimate of the person’s facial characteristics and expressions. If you want to take a selfie, use the button on the main screen to change to the front-facing camera. <https://aka.ms/SeeingAITutorialPerson> Play the video tutorial Teaching Seeing AI to Recognize Someone When using the Person channel, Face Recognition can tell you who is near you. Instead of hearing, “One face near center, 4 feet away” you’ll hear their name: “John near center, 4 feet away”. It’s recommended that you ask people for permission before you train Seeing AI to recognize them. To teach Seeing AI to recognize a person’s face, open Face Recognition in the menu. Take three photos of the person and enter their name. We suggest asking them to take the photos of themselves. By default, the front-facing camera is active when using Face Recognition. If you're taking photos
Re: Seeing AI Help, entire help documentation
Richard. Thanks so much for making the effort to compile this documentation in one place. This will be a helpful resource for anyone using Seeing AI. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 9, 2018, at 8:41 AM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote: > > > Below I have copied the entire Seeing AI help. To read it section by section, > in the app, Double Tap on the menu button and select Help. > Or, in each channel, the Quick Help button plays the video by the developer > explaining that specific channel. > Here is the help information, though the "play video" lines should be ignored > as they are only active when in the app's help section. > > Seeing AI > Seeing AI describes the people, text, and objects around you. > > Using your phone’s camera, the app says what it "sees". Seeing AI uses > multiple channels to announce different information, such as reading text or > describing faces. > > On some channels, Seeing AI will automatically read what it sees. Other times > you may need to take a photo to get a description of the image. > > To help you position your phone for the best results, Seeing AI can also > describe where people or objects are in the camera’s field of vision. This > feature isn’t available for all channels. > > Seeing AI is an ongoing research project. To help us to improve it, please > send your feedback. > > Play the video tutorial > > Available Channels > > > Short Text > > Hold the camera over some text to have it automatically read to you. As new > text comes into view, it will also be read out loud. > > While reading out loud, Seeing AI may start again from the beginning if the > camera captures a clearer image of the text. > > Play the video tutorial > > Document > > Hold the camera over a printed page to capture it. After the text has been > recognized, you can use VoiceOver commands to navigate it. > > Seeing AI will guide you with camera placement until all edges of a document > are visible and the photo is taken. Make the necessary adjustments until you > hear “Hold steady”. > > A good technique is to place the camera in the center of the page, and slowly > move it away, making slight adjustments. > > This channel works best when there’s a high contrast between the page and the > background, like a white document on a dark surface . > > Once the text has been recognized, use the play button to have the text read > aloud, with syncronized word highlighting. Use the plus and minus buttons to > change the size of the text. > > Play the video tutorial > > Product > > Hold the camera over a barcode to hear the product name. Seeing AI will guide > you with the camera placement until a barcode is detected: > > Move the phone over the product until you hear beeps that indicate a barcode > is nearby. Starting farther away and slowly moving the phone closer works > best. > The faster the beeps, the closer you are to the barcode. > When a barcode is detected, Seeing AI will say the product name. > If additional information about the product is available, the More Info > button will be available. > Note: This channel is not available if running iOS 10 on an iPhone 5, 5C, or > earlier. > > Play the video tutorial > > Person > > Scan your surroundings to find out how many people are around you, how close > they are, and their facial expressions. > > If you’ve taught the app to recognize a particular person, their name will be > announced when they come into view. You can teach Seeing AI to recognize > someone by selecting Face Recognition in the menu. > > Seeing AI will also tell you the position of each face it detects, which can > be helpful for centering a person in the camera’s view when taking a photo. > > After taking a photo, Seeing AI will give you an estimate of the person’s > facial characteristics and expressions. > > If you want to take a selfie, use the button on the main screen to change to > the front-facing camera. > > Play the video tutorial > > Teaching Seeing AI to Recognize Someone > > When using the Person channel, Face Recognition can tell you who is near you. > Instead of hearing, “One face near center, 4 feet away” you’ll hear their > name: “John near center, 4 feet away”. > > It’s recommended that you ask people for permission before you train Seeing > AI to recognize them. To teach Seeing AI to recognize a person’s face, open > Face Recognition in the menu. Take three photos of the person and enter their > name. We suggest asking them to take the photos of themselves. > > By default, the front-facing came
Seeing AI Help, entire help documentation
Below I have copied the entire Seeing AI help. To read it section by section, in the app, Double Tap on the menu button and select Help. Or, in each channel, the Quick Help button plays the video by the developer explaining that specific channel. Here is the help information, though the "play video" lines should be ignored as they are only active when in the app's help section. Seeing AI Seeing AI describes the people, text, and objects around you. Using your phone’s camera, the app says what it "sees". Seeing AI uses multiple channels to announce different information, such as reading text or describing faces. On some channels, Seeing AI will automatically read what it sees. Other times you may need to take a photo to get a description of the image. To help you position your phone for the best results, Seeing AI can also describe where people or objects are in the camera’s field of vision. This feature isn’t available for all channels. Seeing AI is an ongoing research project. To help us to improve it, please send your feedback. [cid:] Play the video tutorial<https://aka.ms/SeeingAITutorialIntro> Available Channels [Carousel showing available channels] Short Text Hold the camera over some text to have it automatically read to you. As new text comes into view, it will also be read out loud. While reading out loud, Seeing AI may start again from the beginning if the camera captures a clearer image of the text. [cid:] Play the video tutorial<https://aka.ms/SeeingAITutorialShortText> Document Hold the camera over a printed page to capture it. After the text has been recognized, you can use VoiceOver commands to navigate it. Seeing AI will guide you with camera placement until all edges of a document are visible and the photo is taken. Make the necessary adjustments until you hear “Hold steady”. A good technique is to place the camera in the center of the page, and slowly move it away, making slight adjustments. This channel works best when there’s a high contrast between the page and the background, like a white document on a dark surface . Once the text has been recognized, use the play button to have the text read aloud, with syncronized word highlighting. Use the plus and minus buttons to change the size of the text. [cid:] Play the video tutorial<https://aka.ms/SeeingAITutorialDocument> Product Hold the camera over a barcode to hear the product name. Seeing AI will guide you with the camera placement until a barcode is detected: * Move the phone over the product until you hear beeps that indicate a barcode is nearby. Starting farther away and slowly moving the phone closer works best. * The faster the beeps, the closer you are to the barcode. * When a barcode is detected, Seeing AI will say the product name. * If additional information about the product is available, the More Info button will be available. Note: This channel is not available if running iOS 10 on an iPhone 5, 5C, or earlier. [cid:] Play the video tutorial<https://aka.ms/SeeingAITutorialProduct> Person Scan your surroundings to find out how many people are around you, how close they are, and their facial expressions. If you’ve taught the app to recognize a particular person, their name will be announced when they come into view. You can teach Seeing AI to recognize someone by selecting Face Recognition in the menu. Seeing AI will also tell you the position of each face it detects, which can be helpful for centering a person in the camera’s view when taking a photo. After taking a photo, Seeing AI will give you an estimate of the person’s facial characteristics and expressions. If you want to take a selfie, use the button on the main screen to change to the front-facing camera. [cid:] Play the video tutorial<https://aka.ms/SeeingAITutorialPerson> Teaching Seeing AI to Recognize Someone When using the Person channel, Face Recognition can tell you who is near you. Instead of hearing, “One face near center, 4 feet away” you’ll hear their name: “John near center, 4 feet away”. It’s recommended that you ask people for permission before you train Seeing AI to recognize them. To teach Seeing AI to recognize a person’s face, open Face Recognition in the menu. Take three photos of the person and enter their name. We suggest asking them to take the photos of themselves. By default, the front-facing camera is active when using Face Recognition. If you're taking photos of someone else, switch to the back-facing camera. Currency (preview) This is an experimental channel, so please use caution. Currency recognition isn’t always correct, have someone you trust confirm a note’s value. Hold the camera over a single note to hear the estimated value. Use the button on the main screen to select which currency should be recognized. Let us know if you wish to recognize a currency that isn't listed — mor
RE: Seeing AI help
I believe you have to make sure to dismiss the help information which comes up for each channel. For short text you don't have to do aything, just hold the phone above your document or whatever it is and it will start reading almost instantly. The product channel will detect bar codes and there is some beeping if the camera sees one, the faster it beeps the more of the barcode is seen and you just have to hold still to see if it takes the picture, but it's automatic In the Document channel taking the picture is also automatic, as soon as it detects the 4 edges of your page or document it will take the picture. Did you read through the help information for each channel? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Johnna Simmons Sent: Monday, April 9, 2018 4:26 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Seeing AI help Hello, I am trying to use this app. But I need some detailed instructions as to how it works. I know that you swipe up to change it from short text to product channel but me and how do you get to the take picture button. Or is it automatic? Some details would be appreciated. Thank you. Live the life you want. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 8, 2018, at 4:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > > Also, it might help if you can ask a sighted friend or family menber to > observe you when you try to use the Document or barcode channels, they might > be able to give you feedback which might help down the road. > All in all I still think that Seeing AI is an awesome tool offering so many > features in one app and I commend Microsoft for developing this app. The nice > thing is that Microsoft has the resources to continue development and updates > and it is probably a lot less likely to be one of those apps which start so > promising and then end in a fizzle before they disappear or simply remain in > the app store for years without updates. > > Best regards, > Sieghard > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Reg > Sullivan > Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 6:10 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Seeing AI help > > Sounds like you are describing User Error in your post. > You can be assured that if the bar code is in focus it will read, assuming > the code is in the data base. The fast beeping is to guide you to the code. > > When using Short Text mode, the app only needs to get a quick picture of the > page. You should then either move your device away or put your hand over the > camera and just listen to it read. > > > > -Original Message- > From: 'Husna Begum' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] > Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 4:34 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Seeing AI help > > quite often it beeps and beeps really fast but doesn't read anything, i > wanted it to read some baby food jars but it wouldn't do it for ages and then > suddenly begin to read it and i never knew what made it finally read it. it > was so frustrating and a thing that should take a few seconds could often > waste more than 5 minutes. also why does the document channel only read a > tiny part of the page, it does not read the whole thing so i use the short > text channel but that is annoying because if you move even slightly it starts > from the beginning again. i thought seeing ai would be so good but as often > with blindness technology it is not what it is cracked up to be and leaves > you with frustration with the lack of sight. > > Husna > > > -Original Message- > From: Tom Rash > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 3:21 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Seeing AI help > > If you want to read mail or some printed info, use the quick text mode. > Raise your phone up slowly from the printed text and it will start reading. > This is a live reading, no processing, so when it starts reading you can pull > the phone away, and it will continue reading what it saw. > To read bar codes go to product mode, and it will beep faster as it begins to > see the bar code. Try those two out for now. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Terri > Stimmel > Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 7:12 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Seeing AI help > > Hello everyone, > > > Could someone please give me some tips on how to possibly use Seeing AI? > > > I've tried to get it to work a couple of times now, with absolutely no luck! > I think it's human error. I really don't know for sure though. > > > I tried to read a can yesterday. It wouldn't do anythin
Re: Seeing AI help
Hello, I am trying to use this app. But I need some detailed instructions as to how it works. I know that you swipe up to change it from short text to product channel but me and how do you get to the take picture button. Or is it automatic? Some details would be appreciated. Thank you. Live the life you want. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 8, 2018, at 4:04 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > > Also, it might help if you can ask a sighted friend or family menber to > observe you when you try to use the Document or barcode channels, they might > be able to give you feedback which might help down the road. > All in all I still think that Seeing AI is an awesome tool offering so many > features in one app and I commend Microsoft for developing this app. The nice > thing is that Microsoft has the resources to continue development and updates > and it is probably a lot less likely to be one of those apps which start so > promising and then end in a fizzle before they disappear or simply remain in > the app store for years without updates. > > Best regards, > Sieghard > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Reg > Sullivan > Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 6:10 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Seeing AI help > > Sounds like you are describing User Error in your post. > You can be assured that if the bar code is in focus it will read, assuming > the code is in the data base. The fast beeping is to guide you to the code. > > When using Short Text mode, the app only needs to get a quick picture of the > page. You should then either move your device away or put your hand over the > camera and just listen to it read. > > > > -Original Message- > From: 'Husna Begum' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] > Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 4:34 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Seeing AI help > > quite often it beeps and beeps really fast but doesn't read anything, i > wanted it to read some baby food jars but it wouldn't do it for ages and then > suddenly begin to read it and i never knew what made it finally read it. it > was so frustrating and a thing that should take a few seconds could often > waste more than 5 minutes. also why does the document channel only read a > tiny part of the page, it does not read the whole thing so i use the short > text channel but that is annoying because if you move even slightly it starts > from the beginning again. i thought seeing ai would be so good but as often > with blindness technology it is not what it is cracked up to be and leaves > you with frustration with the lack of sight. > > Husna > > > -Original Message- > From: Tom Rash > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 3:21 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Seeing AI help > > If you want to read mail or some printed info, use the quick text mode. > Raise your phone up slowly from the printed text and it will start reading. > This is a live reading, no processing, so when it starts reading you can pull > the phone away, and it will continue reading what it saw. > To read bar codes go to product mode, and it will beep faster as it begins to > see the bar code. Try those two out for now. > > -----Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Terri > Stimmel > Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 7:12 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Seeing AI help > > Hello everyone, > > > Could someone please give me some tips on how to possibly use Seeing AI? > > > I've tried to get it to work a couple of times now, with absolutely no luck! > I think it's human error. I really don't know for sure though. > > > I tried to read a can yesterday. It wouldn't do anything. So I switched > channels and tried to read a piece of mail. Again, nothing happened. > > > I am holding the camera above the item, and moving the phone slowly back and > forth. > > Is this how I should do it? > > > Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated. > > > Thank you, > > > Terri > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives
Re: Seeing AI help
what are you supposed to do then when it beeps fast, if i move it away the beeps slow down and stop, if i move it closer the beeps stop and if i keep it where it is, it beeps for ages and then some times will finally read the product. luckily my son doesn't need to have baby food any more. Husna -Original Message- From: Reg Sullivan Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 2:09 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Seeing AI help Sounds like you are describing User Error in your post. You can be assured that if the bar code is in focus it will read, assuming the code is in the data base. The fast beeping is to guide you to the code. When using Short Text mode, the app only needs to get a quick picture of the page. You should then either move your device away or put your hand over the camera and just listen to it read. -Original Message- From: 'Husna Begum' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 4:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Seeing AI help quite often it beeps and beeps really fast but doesn't read anything, i wanted it to read some baby food jars but it wouldn't do it for ages and then suddenly begin to read it and i never knew what made it finally read it. it was so frustrating and a thing that should take a few seconds could often waste more than 5 minutes. also why does the document channel only read a tiny part of the page, it does not read the whole thing so i use the short text channel but that is annoying because if you move even slightly it starts from the beginning again. i thought seeing ai would be so good but as often with blindness technology it is not what it is cracked up to be and leaves you with frustration with the lack of sight. Husna -Original Message- From: Tom Rash Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 3:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Seeing AI help If you want to read mail or some printed info, use the quick text mode. Raise your phone up slowly from the printed text and it will start reading. This is a live reading, no processing, so when it starts reading you can pull the phone away, and it will continue reading what it saw. To read bar codes go to product mode, and it will beep faster as it begins to see the bar code. Try those two out for now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 7:12 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Seeing AI help Hello everyone, Could someone please give me some tips on how to possibly use Seeing AI? I've tried to get it to work a couple of times now, with absolutely no luck! I think it's human error. I really don't know for sure though. I tried to read a can yesterday. It wouldn't do anything. So I switched channels and tried to read a piece of mail. Again, nothing happened. I am holding the camera above the item, and moving the phone slowly back and forth. Is this how I should do it? Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated. Thank you, Terri -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For
Re: Seeing AI help
that is true i do hope they continue with it, it has a lot of potential. Husna -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 9:04 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Seeing AI help Also, it might help if you can ask a sighted friend or family menber to observe you when you try to use the Document or barcode channels, they might be able to give you feedback which might help down the road. All in all I still think that Seeing AI is an awesome tool offering so many features in one app and I commend Microsoft for developing this app. The nice thing is that Microsoft has the resources to continue development and updates and it is probably a lot less likely to be one of those apps which start so promising and then end in a fizzle before they disappear or simply remain in the app store for years without updates. Best regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Reg Sullivan Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 6:10 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Seeing AI help Sounds like you are describing User Error in your post. You can be assured that if the bar code is in focus it will read, assuming the code is in the data base. The fast beeping is to guide you to the code. When using Short Text mode, the app only needs to get a quick picture of the page. You should then either move your device away or put your hand over the camera and just listen to it read. -Original Message- From: 'Husna Begum' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 4:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Seeing AI help quite often it beeps and beeps really fast but doesn't read anything, i wanted it to read some baby food jars but it wouldn't do it for ages and then suddenly begin to read it and i never knew what made it finally read it. it was so frustrating and a thing that should take a few seconds could often waste more than 5 minutes. also why does the document channel only read a tiny part of the page, it does not read the whole thing so i use the short text channel but that is annoying because if you move even slightly it starts from the beginning again. i thought seeing ai would be so good but as often with blindness technology it is not what it is cracked up to be and leaves you with frustration with the lack of sight. Husna -Original Message- From: Tom Rash Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 3:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Seeing AI help If you want to read mail or some printed info, use the quick text mode. Raise your phone up slowly from the printed text and it will start reading. This is a live reading, no processing, so when it starts reading you can pull the phone away, and it will continue reading what it saw. To read bar codes go to product mode, and it will beep faster as it begins to see the bar code. Try those two out for now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 7:12 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Seeing AI help Hello everyone, Could someone please give me some tips on how to possibly use Seeing AI? I've tried to get it to work a couple of times now, with absolutely no luck! I think it's human error. I really don't know for sure though. I tried to read a can yesterday. It wouldn't do anything. So I switched channels and tried to read a piece of mail. Again, nothing happened. I am holding the camera above the item, and moving the phone slowly back and forth. Is this how I should do it? Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated. Thank you, Terri -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners o
RE: Seeing AI help
Also, it might help if you can ask a sighted friend or family menber to observe you when you try to use the Document or barcode channels, they might be able to give you feedback which might help down the road. All in all I still think that Seeing AI is an awesome tool offering so many features in one app and I commend Microsoft for developing this app. The nice thing is that Microsoft has the resources to continue development and updates and it is probably a lot less likely to be one of those apps which start so promising and then end in a fizzle before they disappear or simply remain in the app store for years without updates. Best regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Reg Sullivan Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 6:10 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Seeing AI help Sounds like you are describing User Error in your post. You can be assured that if the bar code is in focus it will read, assuming the code is in the data base. The fast beeping is to guide you to the code. When using Short Text mode, the app only needs to get a quick picture of the page. You should then either move your device away or put your hand over the camera and just listen to it read. -Original Message- From: 'Husna Begum' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 4:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Seeing AI help quite often it beeps and beeps really fast but doesn't read anything, i wanted it to read some baby food jars but it wouldn't do it for ages and then suddenly begin to read it and i never knew what made it finally read it. it was so frustrating and a thing that should take a few seconds could often waste more than 5 minutes. also why does the document channel only read a tiny part of the page, it does not read the whole thing so i use the short text channel but that is annoying because if you move even slightly it starts from the beginning again. i thought seeing ai would be so good but as often with blindness technology it is not what it is cracked up to be and leaves you with frustration with the lack of sight. Husna -Original Message- From: Tom Rash Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 3:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Seeing AI help If you want to read mail or some printed info, use the quick text mode. Raise your phone up slowly from the printed text and it will start reading. This is a live reading, no processing, so when it starts reading you can pull the phone away, and it will continue reading what it saw. To read bar codes go to product mode, and it will beep faster as it begins to see the bar code. Try those two out for now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 7:12 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Seeing AI help Hello everyone, Could someone please give me some tips on how to possibly use Seeing AI? I've tried to get it to work a couple of times now, with absolutely no luck! I think it's human error. I really don't know for sure though. I tried to read a can yesterday. It wouldn't do anything. So I switched channels and tried to read a piece of mail. Again, nothing happened. I am holding the camera above the item, and moving the phone slowly back and forth. Is this how I should do it? Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated. Thank you, Terri -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The arch
Re: A Different Question RE: Seeing AI help
Karen, Dave is right. You need iOS 11 for the product channel to work on a 5s. You are also missing the new Currency channel because you are on iOS 10. So, once you replace that app, you will get both of those channels. HTH, Richard “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1 On Apr 8, 2018, at 5:16 AM, Dave <dave.beckett...@gmail.com<mailto:dave.beckett...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Karen, I think to receive all the channels, you have to update, to iOS 11, or iOS 11.3 as it is now. Dave. to From: Karen Poulakos<mailto:ka...@poulakos.com> Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 12:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: A Different Question RE: Seeing AI help I am using Seeing AI on a 5S. I thought that at one time I had the Product channel, but hadn’t used it. When I went to use it a couple of days ago, it was not there. What I have is Short Text, Document, Person, Scene Preview, Color Preview, Handwriting Preview., and Light. I have not updated my phone because I have one app that is not being updated, and I don’t want to loose the function of that app until I am very satisfied with the app I’m replacing it with. I know that I will soon have to give in and make the switch. But for now I am still using version 10.3.3. I am really happy with Seeing AI. It’s not perfect, but is far better than anything else I’ve tried. Is the Product channel only available when using the latest IOS update? Or am I missing something? Karen P From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 5:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Seeing AI help I'm sorry you are having trouble. I use the document channel a lot and have about a 95 percent success rate with it reading the entire document. The times it doesn't, I've found that either the lighting is bad, or I'm not holding the phone correctly, or the printing is not very good. The key with the document channel is that you have to hold the phone quite level, have the camera pointed more or less at the center of the page, and have it about 18 inches above the page. Plus, you need a clear contrast between the document and the surface the document is sitting on so Seeing AI can find the edges of the document. If the Product channel is working some of the time, try and figure out exactly what you did those times because that is when you got the focus on the barcode at the right spot. I find unless there are specific reasons to use the barcode over just knowing what something is, TapTapSee is another good choice and sometimes faster than trying to find the barcode. Richard “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1 On Apr 8, 2018, at 1:33 AM, 'Husna Begum' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote: quite often it beeps and beeps really fast but doesn't read anything, i wanted it to read some baby food jars but it wouldn't do it for ages and then suddenly begin to read it and i never knew what made it finally read it. it was so frustrating and a thing that should take a few seconds could often waste more than 5 minutes. also why does the document channel only read a tiny part of the page, it does not read the whole thing so i use the short text channel but that is annoying because if you move even slightly it starts from the beginning again. i thought seeing ai would be so good but as often with blindness technology it is not what it is cracked up to be and leaves you with frustration with the lack of sight. Husna -Original Message- From: Tom Rash Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 3:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Seeing AI help If you want to read mail or some printed info, use the quick text mode. Raise your phone up slowly from the printed text and it will start reading. This is a live reading, no processing, so when it starts reading you can pull the phone away, and it will continue reading what it saw. To read bar codes go to product mode, and it will beep faster as it begins to see the bar code. Try those two out for now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 7:12 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Seeing AI help Hello everyone, Could someone please give me some tips on how to possibly use Seeing AI? I've tried to get it to work a couple of times now, with absolutely no l
RE: Seeing AI help
Sounds like you are describing User Error in your post. You can be assured that if the bar code is in focus it will read, assuming the code is in the data base. The fast beeping is to guide you to the code. When using Short Text mode, the app only needs to get a quick picture of the page. You should then either move your device away or put your hand over the camera and just listen to it read. -Original Message- From: 'Husna Begum' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 4:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Seeing AI help quite often it beeps and beeps really fast but doesn't read anything, i wanted it to read some baby food jars but it wouldn't do it for ages and then suddenly begin to read it and i never knew what made it finally read it. it was so frustrating and a thing that should take a few seconds could often waste more than 5 minutes. also why does the document channel only read a tiny part of the page, it does not read the whole thing so i use the short text channel but that is annoying because if you move even slightly it starts from the beginning again. i thought seeing ai would be so good but as often with blindness technology it is not what it is cracked up to be and leaves you with frustration with the lack of sight. Husna -Original Message- From: Tom Rash Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 3:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Seeing AI help If you want to read mail or some printed info, use the quick text mode. Raise your phone up slowly from the printed text and it will start reading. This is a live reading, no processing, so when it starts reading you can pull the phone away, and it will continue reading what it saw. To read bar codes go to product mode, and it will beep faster as it begins to see the bar code. Try those two out for now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 7:12 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Seeing AI help Hello everyone, Could someone please give me some tips on how to possibly use Seeing AI? I've tried to get it to work a couple of times now, with absolutely no luck! I think it's human error. I really don't know for sure though. I tried to read a can yesterday. It wouldn't do anything. So I switched channels and tried to read a piece of mail. Again, nothing happened. I am holding the camera above the item, and moving the phone slowly back and forth. Is this how I should do it? Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated. Thank you, Terri -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list i
Re: A Different Question RE: Seeing AI help
Hi Karen, I think to receive all the channels, you have to update, to iOS 11, or iOS 11.3 as it is now. Dave. to From: Karen Poulakos Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 12:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: A Different Question RE: Seeing AI help I am using Seeing AI on a 5S. I thought that at one time I had the Product channel, but hadn’t used it. When I went to use it a couple of days ago, it was not there. What I have is Short Text, Document, Person, Scene Preview, Color Preview, Handwriting Preview., and Light. I have not updated my phone because I have one app that is not being updated, and I don’t want to loose the function of that app until I am very satisfied with the app I’m replacing it with. I know that I will soon have to give in and make the switch. But for now I am still using version 10.3.3. I am really happy with Seeing AI. It’s not perfect, but is far better than anything else I’ve tried. Is the Product channel only available when using the latest IOS update? Or am I missing something? Karen P From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 5:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Seeing AI help I'm sorry you are having trouble. I use the document channel a lot and have about a 95 percent success rate with it reading the entire document. The times it doesn't, I've found that either the lighting is bad, or I'm not holding the phone correctly, or the printing is not very good. The key with the document channel is that you have to hold the phone quite level, have the camera pointed more or less at the center of the page, and have it about 18 inches above the page. Plus, you need a clear contrast between the document and the surface the document is sitting on so Seeing AI can find the edges of the document. If the Product channel is working some of the time, try and figure out exactly what you did those times because that is when you got the focus on the barcode at the right spot. I find unless there are specific reasons to use the barcode over just knowing what something is, TapTapSee is another good choice and sometimes faster than trying to find the barcode. Richard “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1 On Apr 8, 2018, at 1:33 AM, 'Husna Begum' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: quite often it beeps and beeps really fast but doesn't read anything, i wanted it to read some baby food jars but it wouldn't do it for ages and then suddenly begin to read it and i never knew what made it finally read it. it was so frustrating and a thing that should take a few seconds could often waste more than 5 minutes. also why does the document channel only read a tiny part of the page, it does not read the whole thing so i use the short text channel but that is annoying because if you move even slightly it starts from the beginning again. i thought seeing ai would be so good but as often with blindness technology it is not what it is cracked up to be and leaves you with frustration with the lack of sight. Husna -Original Message- From: Tom Rash Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 3:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Seeing AI help If you want to read mail or some printed info, use the quick text mode. Raise your phone up slowly from the printed text and it will start reading. This is a live reading, no processing, so when it starts reading you can pull the phone away, and it will continue reading what it saw. To read bar codes go to product mode, and it will beep faster as it begins to see the bar code. Try those two out for now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 7:12 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Seeing AI help Hello everyone, Could someone please give me some tips on how to possibly use Seeing AI? I've tried to get it to work a couple of times now, with absolutely no luck! I think it's human error. I really don't know for sure though. I tried to read a can yesterday. It wouldn't do anything. So I switched channels and tried to read a piece of mail. Again, nothing happened. I am holding the camera above the item, and moving the phone slowly back and forth. Is this how I should do it? Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated. Thank you, Terri -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark ca
A Different Question RE: Seeing AI help
I am using Seeing AI on a 5S. I thought that at one time I had the Product channel, but hadn’t used it. When I went to use it a couple of days ago, it was not there. What I have is Short Text, Document, Person, Scene Preview, Color Preview, Handwriting Preview., and Light. I have not updated my phone because I have one app that is not being updated, and I don’t want to loose the function of that app until I am very satisfied with the app I’m replacing it with. I know that I will soon have to give in and make the switch. But for now I am still using version 10.3.3. I am really happy with Seeing AI. It’s not perfect, but is far better than anything else I’ve tried. Is the Product channel only available when using the latest IOS update? Or am I missing something? Karen P From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, April 8, 2018 5:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Seeing AI help I'm sorry you are having trouble. I use the document channel a lot and have about a 95 percent success rate with it reading the entire document. The times it doesn't, I've found that either the lighting is bad, or I'm not holding the phone correctly, or the printing is not very good. The key with the document channel is that you have to hold the phone quite level, have the camera pointed more or less at the center of the page, and have it about 18 inches above the page. Plus, you need a clear contrast between the document and the surface the document is sitting on so Seeing AI can find the edges of the document. If the Product channel is working some of the time, try and figure out exactly what you did those times because that is when you got the focus on the barcode at the right spot. I find unless there are specific reasons to use the barcode over just knowing what something is, TapTapSee is another good choice and sometimes faster than trying to find the barcode. Richard “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1 On Apr 8, 2018, at 1:33 AM, 'Husna Begum' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com> wrote: quite often it beeps and beeps really fast but doesn't read anything, i wanted it to read some baby food jars but it wouldn't do it for ages and then suddenly begin to read it and i never knew what made it finally read it. it was so frustrating and a thing that should take a few seconds could often waste more than 5 minutes. also why does the document channel only read a tiny part of the page, it does not read the whole thing so i use the short text channel but that is annoying because if you move even slightly it starts from the beginning again. i thought seeing ai would be so good but as often with blindness technology it is not what it is cracked up to be and leaves you with frustration with the lack of sight. Husna -Original Message- From: Tom Rash Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 3:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Seeing AI help If you want to read mail or some printed info, use the quick text mode. Raise your phone up slowly from the printed text and it will start reading. This is a live reading, no processing, so when it starts reading you can pull the phone away, and it will continue reading what it saw. To read bar codes go to product mode, and it will beep faster as it begins to see the bar code. Try those two out for now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 7:12 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Seeing AI help Hello everyone, Could someone please give me some tips on how to possibly use Seeing AI? I've tried to get it to work a couple of times now, with absolutely no luck! I think it's human error. I really don't know for sure though. I tried to read a can yesterday. It wouldn't do anything. So I switched channels and tried to read a piece of mail. Again, nothing happened. I am holding the camera above the item, and moving the phone slowly back and forth. Is this how I should do it? Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated. Thank you, Terri -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F <https://eur02.safelinks.protect
Re: Seeing AI help
I'm sorry you are having trouble. I use the document channel a lot and have about a 95 percent success rate with it reading the entire document. The times it doesn't, I've found that either the lighting is bad, or I'm not holding the phone correctly, or the printing is not very good. The key with the document channel is that you have to hold the phone quite level, have the camera pointed more or less at the center of the page, and have it about 18 inches above the page. Plus, you need a clear contrast between the document and the surface the document is sitting on so Seeing AI can find the edges of the document. If the Product channel is working some of the time, try and figure out exactly what you did those times because that is when you got the focus on the barcode at the right spot. I find unless there are specific reasons to use the barcode over just knowing what something is, TapTapSee is another good choice and sometimes faster than trying to find the barcode. Richard “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1 On Apr 8, 2018, at 1:33 AM, 'Husna Begum' via VIPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote: quite often it beeps and beeps really fast but doesn't read anything, i wanted it to read some baby food jars but it wouldn't do it for ages and then suddenly begin to read it and i never knew what made it finally read it. it was so frustrating and a thing that should take a few seconds could often waste more than 5 minutes. also why does the document channel only read a tiny part of the page, it does not read the whole thing so i use the short text channel but that is annoying because if you move even slightly it starts from the beginning again. i thought seeing ai would be so good but as often with blindness technology it is not what it is cracked up to be and leaves you with frustration with the lack of sight. Husna -Original Message- From: Tom Rash Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 3:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Seeing AI help If you want to read mail or some printed info, use the quick text mode. Raise your phone up slowly from the printed text and it will start reading. This is a live reading, no processing, so when it starts reading you can pull the phone away, and it will continue reading what it saw. To read bar codes go to product mode, and it will beep faster as it begins to see the bar code. Try those two out for now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 7:12 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Seeing AI help Hello everyone, Could someone please give me some tips on how to possibly use Seeing AI? I've tried to get it to work a couple of times now, with absolutely no luck! I think it's human error. I really don't know for sure though. I tried to read a can yesterday. It wouldn't do anything. So I switched channels and tried to read a piece of mail. Again, nothing happened. I am holding the camera above the item, and moving the phone slowly back and forth. Is this how I should do it? Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated. Thank you, Terri -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F=02%7C01%7C%7C6692b5a0aced4ad65c0808d59d2b6cf0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636587732191202527=6Jd1wLPW8CcrRG%2FQ0Axqvuavu0V36d688CMvdfS9pP0%3D=0 --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fgroup%2Fviphone=02%7C01%7C%7C6692b5a0aced4ad65c0808d59d2b6cf0%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636587732191202527=aZJfmNTqLu1VnL
Re: Seeing AI help
quite often it beeps and beeps really fast but doesn't read anything, i wanted it to read some baby food jars but it wouldn't do it for ages and then suddenly begin to read it and i never knew what made it finally read it. it was so frustrating and a thing that should take a few seconds could often waste more than 5 minutes. also why does the document channel only read a tiny part of the page, it does not read the whole thing so i use the short text channel but that is annoying because if you move even slightly it starts from the beginning again. i thought seeing ai would be so good but as often with blindness technology it is not what it is cracked up to be and leaves you with frustration with the lack of sight. Husna -Original Message- From: Tom Rash Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 3:21 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Seeing AI help If you want to read mail or some printed info, use the quick text mode. Raise your phone up slowly from the printed text and it will start reading. This is a live reading, no processing, so when it starts reading you can pull the phone away, and it will continue reading what it saw. To read bar codes go to product mode, and it will beep faster as it begins to see the bar code. Try those two out for now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 7:12 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Seeing AI help Hello everyone, Could someone please give me some tips on how to possibly use Seeing AI? I've tried to get it to work a couple of times now, with absolutely no luck! I think it's human error. I really don't know for sure though. I tried to read a can yesterday. It wouldn't do anything. So I switched channels and tried to read a piece of mail. Again, nothing happened. I am holding the camera above the item, and moving the phone slowly back and forth. Is this how I should do it? Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated. Thank you, Terri -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at htt
Re: Seeing AI help
When using the document channel, you really need to be about 16 to 18 inches above the page. I am not sure why, but I have about 99 percent success rate at that height, which is about 6 inches higher than KNFB reader needs. It does help to start with the camera centered on the page, and then slowly rase it up as straight as you can. You also want to make sure there is a good contrast between the surface the document is on, and the document. So, if it is a standard white piece of paper, you don't want the surface to be a light color or it will be hard for Seeing AI to determine the edge of the document. I've found that with the product channel if you start again with the camera against the product and slowly pull away, it usually works well at about 8 to 12 inches away. HTH, Richard “The secret is not to make your music louder, but to make the world quieter.” - Mitch Albom from The Magic Strings of Frankie Presto, page 1 On Apr 3, 2018, at 4:08 PM, kelby carlson <kelbycarl...@gmail.com<mailto:kelbycarl...@gmail.com>> wrote: I have an Otterbox Defender. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2018, at 6:46 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: If it's a proper case designed for the phone you have it should have an appropriate opening for where the camera lens is. But it would be easy to find out, just take the phone out of the case and try it without, if you suddenly get much better results then the case obviously might have something to do with it. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of kelby carlson Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 3:04 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Seeing AI help Could having one's phone in a case interfere with the camera? Sent from my iPhone On Apr 3, 2018, at 5:33 PM, Terri Stimmel <icecreamlove...@outlook.com<mailto:icecreamlove...@outlook.com>> wrote: Hello Sieghard, Yes, I do believe that my camera lens is clean. And no, I've never gotten Seeing AI to work. However, I have a money reader App on my phone. It seems to work just fine. I had a little bit of a problem the other day. But I was able to work it out. Terri On 4/3/2018 4:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Have you made sure your camera lens is clean? I mostly use the short tex function since it provides such good ands immediate results. But just out of curiocity I grabbed a print out of a report for my retail business which happened to be on my desk. I put the phone down on it so the camera lens was about in the middle of the page which on my 6S Plus means I line it up so there is about an inch of paper sticking out at the bottom of the phone and the same on the left side of the phone. I then opened Seeing AI, switched to the document channel and then raised the phone up about a foot above the document. Seeing AI immediately told me to hold still, the picture was taken automatically and I had an almost perfect scan. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kelby Carlson Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 1:48 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>; Tom Rash <dadnthed...@gmail.com<mailto:dadnthed...@gmail.com>> Subject: Re: Seeing AI help Let me add that many, many times this is what will happen: I will hold the phone a foot above a document on the "document" channel (with proper lighting); Seeing AI will take a picture immediately; and come back with "no text recognized". There are normal documents I have tried this on ten times in succession with no luck. On 4/3/2018 10:21 AM, Tom Rash wrote: If you want to read mail or some printed info, use the quick text mode. Raise your phone up slowly from the printed text and it will start reading. This is a live reading, no processing, so when it starts reading you can pull the phone away, and it will continue reading what it saw. To read bar codes go to product mode, and it will beep faster as it begins to see the bar code. Try those two out for now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 7:12 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Seeing AI help Hello everyone, Could someone please give me some tips on how to possibly use Seeing AI? I've tried to get it to work a couple of times now, with absolutely no luck! I think it's human error. I really don't know for sure though. I tried to read a can yesterday. It wouldn't do anyth
Re: Seeing AI help
I have an Otterbox Defender. Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 3, 2018, at 6:46 PM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: > > If it's a proper case designed for the phone you have it should have an > appropriate opening for where the camera lens is. But it would be easy to > find out, just take the phone out of the case and try it without, if you > suddenly get much better results then the case obviously might have something > to do with it. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of kelby > carlson > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 3:04 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Seeing AI help > > Could having one's phone in a case interfere with the camera? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Apr 3, 2018, at 5:33 PM, Terri Stimmel <icecreamlove...@outlook.com> >> wrote: >> >> Hello Sieghard, >> >> >> Yes, I do believe that my camera lens is clean. >> >> And no, I've never gotten Seeing AI to work. >> >> However, I have a money reader App on my phone. It seems to work just >> fine. I had a little bit of a problem the other day. But I was able to >> work it out. >> >> >> Terri >> >> >>> On 4/3/2018 4:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >>> Have you made sure your camera lens is clean? I mostly use the short tex >>> function since it provides such good ands immediate results. But just out >>> of curiocity I grabbed a print out of a report for my retail business which >>> happened to be on my desk. I put the phone down on it so the camera lens >>> was about in the middle of the page which on my 6S Plus means I line it up >>> so there is about an inch of paper sticking out at the bottom of the phone >>> and the same on the left side of the phone. I then opened Seeing AI, >>> switched to the document channel and then raised the phone up about a foot >>> above the document. Seeing AI immediately told me to hold still, the >>> picture was taken automatically and I had an almost perfect scan. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sieghard >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>> Of Kelby Carlson >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 1:48 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Tom Rash <dadnthed...@gmail.com> >>> Subject: Re: Seeing AI help >>> >>> Let me add that many, many times this is what will happen: I will hold the >>> phone a foot above a document on the "document" channel (with proper >>> lighting); Seeing AI will take a picture immediately; and come back with >>> "no text recognized". There are normal documents I have tried this on ten >>> times in succession with no luck. >>> >>> >>>> On 4/3/2018 10:21 AM, Tom Rash wrote: >>>> If you want to read mail or some printed info, use the quick text mode. >>>> Raise your phone up slowly from the printed text and it will start >>>> reading. This is a live reading, no processing, so when it starts reading >>>> you can pull the phone away, and it will continue reading what it saw. >>>> To read bar codes go to product mode, and it will beep faster as it begins >>>> to see the bar code. Try those two out for now. >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>>> Of Terri Stimmel >>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 7:12 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Seeing AI help >>>> >>>> Hello everyone, >>>> >>>> >>>> Could someone please give me some tips on how to possibly use Seeing AI? >>>> >>>> >>>> I've tried to get it to work a couple of times now, with absolutely no >>>> luck! I think it's human error. I really don't know for sure though. >>>> >>>> >>>> I tried to read a can yesterday. It wouldn't do anything. So I >>>> switched channels and tried to read a piece of mail. Again, nothing >>>> happened. >>>> >>>> >>>> I am holding the camera above the item, and moving the phone slowly >>>> back and forth. >>>> >>>> Is this how I should do it? >>>> >>>> >>>> Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated.
RE: Seeing AI help
If it's a proper case designed for the phone you have it should have an appropriate opening for where the camera lens is. But it would be easy to find out, just take the phone out of the case and try it without, if you suddenly get much better results then the case obviously might have something to do with it. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of kelby carlson Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 3:04 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Seeing AI help Could having one's phone in a case interfere with the camera? Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 3, 2018, at 5:33 PM, Terri Stimmel <icecreamlove...@outlook.com> wrote: > > Hello Sieghard, > > > Yes, I do believe that my camera lens is clean. > > And no, I've never gotten Seeing AI to work. > > However, I have a money reader App on my phone. It seems to work just > fine. I had a little bit of a problem the other day. But I was able to > work it out. > > > Terri > > >> On 4/3/2018 4:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >> Have you made sure your camera lens is clean? I mostly use the short tex >> function since it provides such good ands immediate results. But just out of >> curiocity I grabbed a print out of a report for my retail business which >> happened to be on my desk. I put the phone down on it so the camera lens was >> about in the middle of the page which on my 6S Plus means I line it up so >> there is about an inch of paper sticking out at the bottom of the phone and >> the same on the left side of the phone. I then opened Seeing AI, switched to >> the document channel and then raised the phone up about a foot above the >> document. Seeing AI immediately told me to hold still, the picture was taken >> automatically and I had an almost perfect scan. >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >> Of Kelby Carlson >> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 1:48 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Tom Rash <dadnthed...@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: Seeing AI help >> >> Let me add that many, many times this is what will happen: I will hold the >> phone a foot above a document on the "document" channel (with proper >> lighting); Seeing AI will take a picture immediately; and come back with "no >> text recognized". There are normal documents I have tried this on ten times >> in succession with no luck. >> >> >>> On 4/3/2018 10:21 AM, Tom Rash wrote: >>> If you want to read mail or some printed info, use the quick text mode. >>> Raise your phone up slowly from the printed text and it will start reading. >>> This is a live reading, no processing, so when it starts reading you can >>> pull the phone away, and it will continue reading what it saw. >>> To read bar codes go to product mode, and it will beep faster as it begins >>> to see the bar code. Try those two out for now. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>> Of Terri Stimmel >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 7:12 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Seeing AI help >>> >>> Hello everyone, >>> >>> >>> Could someone please give me some tips on how to possibly use Seeing AI? >>> >>> >>> I've tried to get it to work a couple of times now, with absolutely no >>> luck! I think it's human error. I really don't know for sure though. >>> >>> >>> I tried to read a can yesterday. It wouldn't do anything. So I >>> switched channels and tried to read a piece of mail. Again, nothing >>> happened. >>> >>> >>> I am holding the camera above the item, and moving the phone slowly >>> back and forth. >>> >>> Is this how I should do it? >>> >>> >>> Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated. >>> >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> >>> Terri >>> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>
RE: Seeing AI help
I suggest you try this when a sighted person is around, take an easy document, something that's just plain print rather than some complicated magazine page where you might deal with colours and poor contrast and all that. Then put the phone lens down on the document, open the app, select the document channel and then raise the phone straight up away from the page until the phone is about a foot or a bit more above. A sighted person can then see if you are moving straight up or sideways etc. and correct you. They can also let you know if you are still too close to the page or too far away. I have very good spacial awareness and a very good sense of what 12 or 16 inches is, I do woodworking and if you give me a piece of wood or a box I can typically tell you within an inch or two how large the piece of wood or the box is, but of course not everybody has that ability and you may need to use other methods to know how high to hold the phone etc. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 2:34 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Seeing AI help Hello Sieghard, Yes, I do believe that my camera lens is clean. And no, I've never gotten Seeing AI to work. However, I have a money reader App on my phone. It seems to work just fine. I had a little bit of a problem the other day. But I was able to work it out. Terri On 4/3/2018 4:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > Have you made sure your camera lens is clean? I mostly use the short tex > function since it provides such good ands immediate results. But just out of > curiocity I grabbed a print out of a report for my retail business which > happened to be on my desk. I put the phone down on it so the camera lens was > about in the middle of the page which on my 6S Plus means I line it up so > there is about an inch of paper sticking out at the bottom of the phone and > the same on the left side of the phone. I then opened Seeing AI, switched to > the document channel and then raised the phone up about a foot above the > document. Seeing AI immediately told me to hold still, the picture was taken > automatically and I had an almost perfect scan. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Kelby Carlson > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 1:48 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Tom Rash <dadnthed...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Seeing AI help > > Let me add that many, many times this is what will happen: I will hold the > phone a foot above a document on the "document" channel (with proper > lighting); Seeing AI will take a picture immediately; and come back with "no > text recognized". There are normal documents I have tried this on ten times > in succession with no luck. > > > On 4/3/2018 10:21 AM, Tom Rash wrote: >> If you want to read mail or some printed info, use the quick text mode. >> Raise your phone up slowly from the printed text and it will start reading. >> This is a live reading, no processing, so when it starts reading you can >> pull the phone away, and it will continue reading what it saw. >> To read bar codes go to product mode, and it will beep faster as it begins >> to see the bar code. Try those two out for now. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >> Of Terri Stimmel >> Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 7:12 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Seeing AI help >> >> Hello everyone, >> >> >> Could someone please give me some tips on how to possibly use Seeing AI? >> >> >> I've tried to get it to work a couple of times now, with absolutely no luck! >> I think it's human error. I really don't know for sure though. >> >> >> I tried to read a can yesterday. It wouldn't do anything. So I >> switched channels and tried to read a piece of mail. Again, nothing happened. >> >> >> I am holding the camera above the item, and moving the phone slowly >> back and forth. >> >> Is this how I should do it? >> >> >> Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated. >> >> >> Thank you, >> >> >> Terri >> > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.
Re: Seeing AI help
Could having one's phone in a case interfere with the camera? Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 3, 2018, at 5:33 PM, Terri Stimmel <icecreamlove...@outlook.com> wrote: > > Hello Sieghard, > > > Yes, I do believe that my camera lens is clean. > > And no, I've never gotten Seeing AI to work. > > However, I have a money reader App on my phone. It seems to work just > fine. I had a little bit of a problem the other day. But I was able to > work it out. > > > Terri > > >> On 4/3/2018 4:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >> Have you made sure your camera lens is clean? I mostly use the short tex >> function since it provides such good ands immediate results. But just out of >> curiocity I grabbed a print out of a report for my retail business which >> happened to be on my desk. I put the phone down on it so the camera lens was >> about in the middle of the page which on my 6S Plus means I line it up so >> there is about an inch of paper sticking out at the bottom of the phone and >> the same on the left side of the phone. I then opened Seeing AI, switched to >> the document channel and then raised the phone up about a foot above the >> document. Seeing AI immediately told me to hold still, the picture was taken >> automatically and I had an almost perfect scan. >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Kelby >> Carlson >> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 1:48 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Tom Rash <dadnthed...@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: Seeing AI help >> >> Let me add that many, many times this is what will happen: I will hold the >> phone a foot above a document on the "document" channel (with proper >> lighting); Seeing AI will take a picture immediately; and come back with "no >> text recognized". There are normal documents I have tried this on ten times >> in succession with no luck. >> >> >>> On 4/3/2018 10:21 AM, Tom Rash wrote: >>> If you want to read mail or some printed info, use the quick text mode. >>> Raise your phone up slowly from the printed text and it will start reading. >>> This is a live reading, no processing, so when it starts reading you can >>> pull the phone away, and it will continue reading what it saw. >>> To read bar codes go to product mode, and it will beep faster as it begins >>> to see the bar code. Try those two out for now. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >>> Terri Stimmel >>> Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 7:12 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Seeing AI help >>> >>> Hello everyone, >>> >>> >>> Could someone please give me some tips on how to possibly use Seeing AI? >>> >>> >>> I've tried to get it to work a couple of times now, with absolutely no >>> luck! I think it's human error. I really don't know for sure though. >>> >>> >>> I tried to read a can yesterday. It wouldn't do anything. So I >>> switched channels and tried to read a piece of mail. Again, nothing >>> happened. >>> >>> >>> I am holding the camera above the item, and moving the phone slowly >>> back and forth. >>> >>> Is this how I should do it? >>> >>> >>> Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated. >>> >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> >>> Terri >>> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group,
Re: Seeing AI help
Hello Sieghard, Yes, I do believe that my camera lens is clean. And no, I've never gotten Seeing AI to work. However, I have a money reader App on my phone. It seems to work just fine. I had a little bit of a problem the other day. But I was able to work it out. Terri On 4/3/2018 4:25 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > Have you made sure your camera lens is clean? I mostly use the short tex > function since it provides such good ands immediate results. But just out of > curiocity I grabbed a print out of a report for my retail business which > happened to be on my desk. I put the phone down on it so the camera lens was > about in the middle of the page which on my 6S Plus means I line it up so > there is about an inch of paper sticking out at the bottom of the phone and > the same on the left side of the phone. I then opened Seeing AI, switched to > the document channel and then raised the phone up about a foot above the > document. Seeing AI immediately told me to hold still, the picture was taken > automatically and I had an almost perfect scan. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Kelby > Carlson > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 1:48 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Tom Rash <dadnthed...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: Seeing AI help > > Let me add that many, many times this is what will happen: I will hold the > phone a foot above a document on the "document" channel (with proper > lighting); Seeing AI will take a picture immediately; and come back with "no > text recognized". There are normal documents I have tried this on ten times > in succession with no luck. > > > On 4/3/2018 10:21 AM, Tom Rash wrote: >> If you want to read mail or some printed info, use the quick text mode. >> Raise your phone up slowly from the printed text and it will start reading. >> This is a live reading, no processing, so when it starts reading you can >> pull the phone away, and it will continue reading what it saw. >> To read bar codes go to product mode, and it will beep faster as it begins >> to see the bar code. Try those two out for now. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >> Terri Stimmel >> Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 7:12 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Seeing AI help >> >> Hello everyone, >> >> >> Could someone please give me some tips on how to possibly use Seeing AI? >> >> >> I've tried to get it to work a couple of times now, with absolutely no luck! >> I think it's human error. I really don't know for sure though. >> >> >> I tried to read a can yesterday. It wouldn't do anything. So I >> switched channels and tried to read a piece of mail. Again, nothing happened. >> >> >> I am holding the camera above the item, and moving the phone slowly >> back and forth. >> >> Is this how I should do it? >> >> >> Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated. >> >> >> Thank you, >> >> >> Terri >> > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for thi
Re: Seeing AI help
Hi Dave, Yes, I did go through the help sections and dismiss them. Terri On 4/3/2018 11:31 AM, Dave wrote: > when you first installed the app, did you dismiss, all the help > sections, that are on each channel, as it won't work, until you do. > > Dave. > > > -Original Message- From: Terri Stimmel > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 3:12 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Seeing AI help > > Hello everyone, > > > Could someone please give me some tips on how to possibly use Seeing AI? > > > I've tried to get it to work a couple of times now, with absolutely no > luck! I think it's human error. I really don't know for sure though. > > > I tried to read a can yesterday. It wouldn't do anything. So I switched > channels and tried to read a piece of mail. Again, nothing happened. > > > I am holding the camera above the item, and moving the phone slowly back > and forth. > > Is this how I should do it? > > > Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated. > > > Thank you, > > > Terri > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Seeing AI help
I guess if it works for her sometimes then permission for the app to use the camera must have been given otherwise it wouldn't work at all ever. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 2:26 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Seeing AI help Have you made sure your camera lens is clean? I mostly use the short tex function since it provides such good ands immediate results. But just out of curiocity I grabbed a print out of a report for my retail business which happened to be on my desk. I put the phone down on it so the camera lens was about in the middle of the page which on my 6S Plus means I line it up so there is about an inch of paper sticking out at the bottom of the phone and the same on the left side of the phone. I then opened Seeing AI, switched to the document channel and then raised the phone up about a foot above the document. Seeing AI immediately told me to hold still, the picture was taken automatically and I had an almost perfect scan. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Kelby Carlson Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 1:48 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Tom Rash <dadnthed...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Seeing AI help Let me add that many, many times this is what will happen: I will hold the phone a foot above a document on the "document" channel (with proper lighting); Seeing AI will take a picture immediately; and come back with "no text recognized". There are normal documents I have tried this on ten times in succession with no luck. On 4/3/2018 10:21 AM, Tom Rash wrote: > If you want to read mail or some printed info, use the quick text mode. > Raise your phone up slowly from the printed text and it will start reading. > This is a live reading, no processing, so when it starts reading you can pull > the phone away, and it will continue reading what it saw. > To read bar codes go to product mode, and it will beep faster as it begins to > see the bar code. Try those two out for now. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Terri Stimmel > Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 7:12 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Seeing AI help > > Hello everyone, > > > Could someone please give me some tips on how to possibly use Seeing AI? > > > I've tried to get it to work a couple of times now, with absolutely no luck! > I think it's human error. I really don't know for sure though. > > > I tried to read a can yesterday. It wouldn't do anything. So I > switched channels and tried to read a piece of mail. Again, nothing happened. > > > I am holding the camera above the item, and moving the phone slowly > back and forth. > > Is this how I should do it? > > > Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated. > > > Thank you, > > > Terri > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this
Re: Seeing AI help
Hi Andy, Oh no, I understand why you asked the question. But yes, I did give it permission to use the camera. Now there may be an issue with the lighting, and I did wonder about this. I don't have the best lighting in my apartment. Plus, I have no usable vision at all. I don't think this helps. Terri On 4/3/2018 2:17 PM, Andy Baracco wrote: > You might not have enough ambient light in the room. This may sound > stupid, but did you give the app permission to use the camera? > > Andy > > - Original Message - From: "Terri Stimmel" > <icecreamlove...@outlook.com> > To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 7:12 AM > Subject: Seeing AI help > > >> Hello everyone, >> >> >> Could someone please give me some tips on how to possibly use Seeing AI? >> >> >> I've tried to get it to work a couple of times now, with absolutely no >> luck! I think it's human error. I really don't know for sure though. >> >> >> I tried to read a can yesterday. It wouldn't do anything. So I switched >> channels and tried to read a piece of mail. Again, nothing happened. >> >> >> I am holding the camera above the item, and moving the phone slowly back >> and forth. >> >> Is this how I should do it? >> >> >> Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated. >> >> >> Thank you, >> >> >> Terri >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V >> iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >> itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara >> at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the >> Google Groups "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Seeing AI help
Have you made sure your camera lens is clean? I mostly use the short tex function since it provides such good ands immediate results. But just out of curiocity I grabbed a print out of a report for my retail business which happened to be on my desk. I put the phone down on it so the camera lens was about in the middle of the page which on my 6S Plus means I line it up so there is about an inch of paper sticking out at the bottom of the phone and the same on the left side of the phone. I then opened Seeing AI, switched to the document channel and then raised the phone up about a foot above the document. Seeing AI immediately told me to hold still, the picture was taken automatically and I had an almost perfect scan. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Kelby Carlson Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 1:48 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com; Tom Rash <dadnthed...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Seeing AI help Let me add that many, many times this is what will happen: I will hold the phone a foot above a document on the "document" channel (with proper lighting); Seeing AI will take a picture immediately; and come back with "no text recognized". There are normal documents I have tried this on ten times in succession with no luck. On 4/3/2018 10:21 AM, Tom Rash wrote: > If you want to read mail or some printed info, use the quick text mode. > Raise your phone up slowly from the printed text and it will start reading. > This is a live reading, no processing, so when it starts reading you can pull > the phone away, and it will continue reading what it saw. > To read bar codes go to product mode, and it will beep faster as it begins to > see the bar code. Try those two out for now. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Terri Stimmel > Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 7:12 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Seeing AI help > > Hello everyone, > > > Could someone please give me some tips on how to possibly use Seeing AI? > > > I've tried to get it to work a couple of times now, with absolutely no luck! > I think it's human error. I really don't know for sure though. > > > I tried to read a can yesterday. It wouldn't do anything. So I > switched channels and tried to read a piece of mail. Again, nothing happened. > > > I am holding the camera above the item, and moving the phone slowly > back and forth. > > Is this how I should do it? > > > Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated. > > > Thank you, > > > Terri > -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Seeing AI help
Let me add that many, many times this is what will happen: I will hold the phone a foot above a document on the "document" channel (with proper lighting); Seeing AI will take a picture immediately; and come back with "no text recognized". There are normal documents I have tried this on ten times in succession with no luck. On 4/3/2018 10:21 AM, Tom Rash wrote: If you want to read mail or some printed info, use the quick text mode. Raise your phone up slowly from the printed text and it will start reading. This is a live reading, no processing, so when it starts reading you can pull the phone away, and it will continue reading what it saw. To read bar codes go to product mode, and it will beep faster as it begins to see the bar code. Try those two out for now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 7:12 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Seeing AI help Hello everyone, Could someone please give me some tips on how to possibly use Seeing AI? I've tried to get it to work a couple of times now, with absolutely no luck! I think it's human error. I really don't know for sure though. I tried to read a can yesterday. It wouldn't do anything. So I switched channels and tried to read a piece of mail. Again, nothing happened. I am holding the camera above the item, and moving the phone slowly back and forth. Is this how I should do it? Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated. Thank you, Terri -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Seeing AI help
I have used Seeing AI since August 2017, and have had a maybe 50% success rate. I've had a number of people on lists insist that this is human error, but I have also had sighted people test it with similarly bad results. On 4/3/2018 3:17 PM, Andy Baracco wrote: You might not have enough ambient light in the room. This may sound stupid, but did you give the app permission to use the camera? Andy - Original Message - From: "Terri Stimmel" <icecreamlove...@outlook.com> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 7:12 AM Subject: Seeing AI help Hello everyone, Could someone please give me some tips on how to possibly use Seeing AI? I've tried to get it to work a couple of times now, with absolutely no luck! I think it's human error. I really don't know for sure though. I tried to read a can yesterday. It wouldn't do anything. So I switched channels and tried to read a piece of mail. Again, nothing happened. I am holding the camera above the item, and moving the phone slowly back and forth. Is this how I should do it? Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated. Thank you, Terri -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Seeing AI help
You might not have enough ambient light in the room. This may sound stupid, but did you give the app permission to use the camera? Andy - Original Message - From: "Terri Stimmel" <icecreamlove...@outlook.com> To: <viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 7:12 AM Subject: Seeing AI help Hello everyone, Could someone please give me some tips on how to possibly use Seeing AI? I've tried to get it to work a couple of times now, with absolutely no luck! I think it's human error. I really don't know for sure though. I tried to read a can yesterday. It wouldn't do anything. So I switched channels and tried to read a piece of mail. Again, nothing happened. I am holding the camera above the item, and moving the phone slowly back and forth. Is this how I should do it? Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated. Thank you, Terri -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Seeing AI help
when you first installed the app, did you dismiss, all the help sections, that are on each channel, as it won't work, until you do. Dave. -Original Message- From: Terri Stimmel Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2018 3:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Seeing AI help Hello everyone, Could someone please give me some tips on how to possibly use Seeing AI? I've tried to get it to work a couple of times now, with absolutely no luck! I think it's human error. I really don't know for sure though. I tried to read a can yesterday. It wouldn't do anything. So I switched channels and tried to read a piece of mail. Again, nothing happened. I am holding the camera above the item, and moving the phone slowly back and forth. Is this how I should do it? Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated. Thank you, Terri -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Seeing AI help
If you want to read mail or some printed info, use the quick text mode. Raise your phone up slowly from the printed text and it will start reading. This is a live reading, no processing, so when it starts reading you can pull the phone away, and it will continue reading what it saw. To read bar codes go to product mode, and it will beep faster as it begins to see the bar code. Try those two out for now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Terri Stimmel Sent: Tuesday, April 3, 2018 7:12 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Seeing AI help Hello everyone, Could someone please give me some tips on how to possibly use Seeing AI? I've tried to get it to work a couple of times now, with absolutely no luck! I think it's human error. I really don't know for sure though. I tried to read a can yesterday. It wouldn't do anything. So I switched channels and tried to read a piece of mail. Again, nothing happened. I am holding the camera above the item, and moving the phone slowly back and forth. Is this how I should do it? Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated. Thank you, Terri -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Seeing AI help
Using any application that purports to read printed text is always a trial-and-error situation. It took me half an hour to find the bar code on a can one day. This is not abnormal. One never knows just where bar codes are. There's also the matter of contrast between the text one wishes to read and the background color of the label or piece of paper upon which said text is printed. Lighting is another key factor. Even though the phone has a flash, other things in the local environment could interfere. Just keep at it. For best results in the short documenchannel, hold the phone about a foot above what you want to read. The application should signal you as to whether you are focused on the page so it can see all four corners. The document and bar code channels read automatically. The longer document channel requires you click (double-tap) the on-screen "take picture" button. Hope this helps. On 4/3/2018 10:12 AM, Terri Stimmel wrote: Hello everyone, Could someone please give me some tips on how to possibly use Seeing AI? I've tried to get it to work a couple of times now, with absolutely no luck! I think it's human error. I really don't know for sure though. I tried to read a can yesterday. It wouldn't do anything. So I switched channels and tried to read a piece of mail. Again, nothing happened. I am holding the camera above the item, and moving the phone slowly back and forth. Is this how I should do it? Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated. Thank you, Terri -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Seeing AI help
Hello everyone, Could someone please give me some tips on how to possibly use Seeing AI? I've tried to get it to work a couple of times now, with absolutely no luck! I think it's human error. I really don't know for sure though. I tried to read a can yesterday. It wouldn't do anything. So I switched channels and tried to read a piece of mail. Again, nothing happened. I am holding the camera above the item, and moving the phone slowly back and forth. Is this how I should do it? Any thoughts or advice would be much appreciated. Thank you, Terri -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
