RE: Reordering aps on my iPhone SE

2024-02-27 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I should also mention that I use the App Library less now ever since IOS added 
the spotlight search to the page switcher right about the dock. Now when I want 
to bring up a slightly used app, I just double tap on the page switcher and 
type in a few characters until the app pops up and then I double tap on it.

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You can move apps from your App Library just like you would any other screen. 
In other words, flick down to edit and double tap, flick down to add to drag 
session and double tap. Find where you want to drop the app on your home screen 
and flick down to drop before or after and double tap.

For me, I keep my home screens very lean and use the App Library for those apps 
I don't use all of the time. I was very happy when Apple added the App Library 
since I missed the App Drawer on Android.

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I think if you find it in the app library, you can flick up or down on it and 
select move to home screen or something.
I avoid the app library as much as possible.




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[iDevices] Moving aps on my iPhone
[iDevices] Moving aps on my iPhone
Hello,  Somehow, I managed to move my phone ap from my home screen to the ap 
library.  How do I put it back in the dock?  I have an iPhone SE3 with IOS 17.2.

Thanks.

Marty Hutchings

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RE: Reordering aps on my iPhone SE

2024-02-27 Thread Christopher Chaltain
You can move apps from your App Library just like you would any other screen. 
In other words, flick down to edit and double tap, flick down to add to drag 
session and double tap. Find where you want to drop the app on your home screen 
and flick down to drop before or after and double tap.

For me, I keep my home screens very lean and use the App Library for those apps 
I don't use all of the time. I was very happy when Apple added the App Library 
since I missed the App Drawer on Android.

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Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2024 7:15 PM
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Subject: RE: Reordering aps on my iPhone SE

I think if you find it in the app library, you can flick up or down on it and 
select move to home screen or something.
I avoid the app library as much as possible.




Richard, USA
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[iDevices] Moving aps on my iPhone
[iDevices] Moving aps on my iPhone
Hello,  Somehow, I managed to move my phone ap from my home screen to the ap 
library.  How do I put it back in the dock?  I have an iPhone SE3 with IOS 17.2.

Thanks.

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RE: Reordering aps on my iPhone SE

2024-02-27 Thread Richard Turner
I think if you find it in the app library, you can flick up or down on it and 
select move to home screen or something.
I avoid the app library as much as possible.




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[iDevices] Moving aps on my iPhone
[iDevices] Moving aps on my iPhone
Hello,  Somehow, I managed to move my phone ap from my home screen to the ap 
library.  How do I put it back in the dock?  I have an iPhone SE3 with IOS 17.2.

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Reordering aps on my iPhone SE

2024-02-27 Thread Marty Hutchings

[iDevices] Moving aps on my iPhone
[iDevices] Moving aps on my iPhone
Hello,  Somehow, I managed to move my phone ap from my home screen to 
the ap library.  How do I put it back in the dock?  I have an iPhone SE3 
with IOS 17.2.


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Re: Accessibility of music service aps

2022-12-28 Thread Joshua Hendrickson
I have tried numerous times to get the Alexa app on my phone to add
apple music to my echo, but no go.  It is very frustrating.

On 12/28/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> And as a last comment, having a connected receiver which has some
> capabilities like Sonos and  hooking up a Sonos Port to it is a bit like
> having a smart TV and an Apple TV.
> Especially if the receiver's app is accessible you may think you don't
> really need a Port, but theoretically if you have an accessible smart TV
> with Netflix, Disney Plus, Apple TV, Prime Video and even an app store where
> you can get more stuff you don't really need an Apple TV.
> However, you still may like or prefer an Apple TV because the accessibility
> I think is probably still better than just about any smart TV and while I
> don't know how fully accessible and awesome the Denon app for your receiver
> is, the Sonos app is incredibly accessible and then there is of course the
> benefit of integrating your existing setup into the Sonos system which I
> explained in my previous email. Anybody who is serious about Sonos and is
> building a multi-room or whole house system would want to do this unless of
> course you for some reason want to add separate Sonos speakers in the same
> room where your existing system is, but then that is silly since it will be
> more expensive than a Sonos Port and I would assume you have your Denon
> receiver with whatever speaker configuration because you really like it.
> In my case my Sony receiver and the speakers I had on it were better than
> most Sonos speakers, but I eventually opted to switch it for a Sonos Arc and
> surround package simply because it also sounds great and it's just so much
> more convenient and takes up so much less space since I had large speakers
> before which were on a stand and took up a lot of room and there is of
> course all the cables I needed.
> As you can guess by now, I am a big Sonos fan, I bought my first Sonos gear
> in 2009 and I loved it when Sonos was offering the 30% upgrade credit where
> you can basically get a 30% discount on new Sonos gear if you decommission
> any of the old gear you may have. In the very beginning you could get a
> shipping label to send it back to Sonos since once you used the upgrade
> credit, the speaker you used for that wouldn't work any more, but that has
> changed and you can now use the upgrade credit and then still sell the old
> speaker. The buyer can set it up and activate it on their account, the only
> thing is that Sonos does keep track of serial numbers so a second person
> could not use that same speaker again to get a discount. There are actually
> people who very specifically look for very old Sonos gear on eBay which
> hasn't been used to get an upgrade discount because you might be able to buy
> a first generation Connect for $50 or $80, but if the upgrade credit
> associated with it has not been used, you could buy a new wireless Sub which
> costs $750 and get it for 30% off so you spend $80 or even $100 to get a
> $225 discount and if you were to buy a full surround setup or a new Sonos
> Amp with in-wall speakers you might get a discount around $400 or $500.
> I can't wait what Sonos will come out with in 2023, typically they release 2
> new products a year, this year the second in October was a new Sub Mini
> (can't remember what the first was), in 2023 it seems already confirmed
> there is a new speaker called Optimus which is going to be a better sounding
> Sonos One or Five, not quite sure. It is supposed to be Wi-Fi 6 capable and
> in addition also support full Bluetooth streaming in addition to Airplay 2
> which most Sonos speakers have.
> There are also rumours about a new flagship soundbar and while that might be
> cool, I never give up hope until they finally add a high-end Sonos headset
> into the mix which would allow me to have a headset which is part of my
> Sonos system without having to resort to work-arounds like connecting a
> Bluetooth receiver/transmitter to a Sonos Port or stuff like that which in
> any case never would sound as good as a good headset which would get its
> signal via your Wi-Fi.
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2022 10:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Accessibility of music service aps
>
> You could always get a Sonos Port and hook it up to your Denon receiver
> since this would then also allow you to bring the speakers connected to your
> receiver into the Sonos system, group them and so on.
> Sonos also has it's own voice assistant and it can live alongside Alexa on
> any voice enabled Sonos speaker like the Roam, Move, One or any of the
> soundbars. It works great for changing volume and it's fantastic 

RE: Accessibility of music service aps

2022-12-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
And as a last comment, having a connected receiver which has some capabilities 
like Sonos and  hooking up a Sonos Port to it is a bit like having a smart TV 
and an Apple TV.
Especially if the receiver's app is accessible you may think you don't really 
need a Port, but theoretically if you have an accessible smart TV with Netflix, 
Disney Plus, Apple TV, Prime Video and even an app store where you can get more 
stuff you don't really need an Apple TV.
However, you still may like or prefer an Apple TV because the accessibility I 
think is probably still better than just about any smart TV and while I don't 
know how fully accessible and awesome the Denon app for your receiver is, the 
Sonos app is incredibly accessible and then there is of course the benefit of 
integrating your existing setup into the Sonos system which I explained in my 
previous email. Anybody who is serious about Sonos and is building a multi-room 
or whole house system would want to do this unless of  course you for some 
reason want to add separate Sonos speakers in the same room where your existing 
system is, but then that is silly since it will be more expensive than a Sonos 
Port and I would assume you have your Denon receiver with whatever speaker 
configuration because you really like it.
In my case my Sony receiver and the speakers I had on it were better than most 
Sonos speakers, but I eventually opted to switch it for a Sonos Arc and 
surround package simply because it also sounds great and it's just so much more 
convenient and takes up so much less space since I had large speakers before 
which were on a stand and took up a lot of room and there is of course all the 
cables I needed.
As you can guess by now, I am a big Sonos fan, I bought my first Sonos gear in 
2009 and I loved it when Sonos was offering the 30% upgrade credit where you 
can basically get a 30% discount on new Sonos gear if you decommission any of 
the old gear you may have. In the very beginning you could get a shipping label 
to send it back to Sonos since once you used the upgrade credit, the speaker 
you used for that wouldn't work any more, but that has changed and you can now 
use the upgrade credit and then still sell the old speaker. The buyer can set 
it up and activate it on their account, the only thing is that Sonos does keep 
track of serial numbers so a second person could not use that same speaker 
again to get a discount. There are actually people who very specifically look 
for very old Sonos gear on eBay which hasn't been used to get an upgrade 
discount because you might be able to buy a first generation Connect for $50 or 
$80, but if the upgrade credit associated with it has not been used, you could 
buy a new wireless Sub which costs $750 and get it for 30% off so you spend $80 
or even $100 to get a $225 discount and if you were to buy a full surround 
setup or a new Sonos Amp with in-wall speakers you might get a discount around 
$400 or $500.
I can't wait what Sonos will come out with in 2023, typically they release 2 
new products a year, this year the second in October was a new Sub Mini (can't 
remember what the first was), in 2023 it seems already confirmed there is a new 
speaker called Optimus which is going to be a better sounding Sonos One or 
Five, not quite sure. It is supposed to be Wi-Fi 6 capable and in addition also 
support full Bluetooth streaming in addition to Airplay 2 which most Sonos 
speakers have.
There are also rumours about a new flagship soundbar and while that might be 
cool, I never give up hope until they finally add a high-end Sonos headset into 
the mix which would allow me to have a headset which is part of my Sonos system 
without having to resort to work-arounds like connecting a Bluetooth 
receiver/transmitter to a Sonos Port or stuff like that which in any case never 
would sound as good as a good headset which would get its signal via your Wi-Fi.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2022 10:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessibility of music service aps

You could always get a Sonos Port and hook it up to your Denon receiver since 
this would then also allow you to bring the speakers connected to your receiver 
into the Sonos system, group them and so on.
Sonos also has it's own voice assistant and it can live alongside Alexa on any 
voice enabled Sonos speaker like the Roam, Move, One or any of the soundbars. 
It works great for changing volume and it's fantastic if you have multiple 
Sonos speakers and you want to group them. You never have to open the app any 
more, I for example often want our living room Arc and surround system grouped 
with a set of Sonos One speakers in the kitchen because then my wife can watch 
a movie and I can listen in the kitchen if I am still doing something. I simply 
go in the kitchen and say "Hey Sonos, group cooking" This is because I made a 
group with living room a

RE: Accessibility of music service aps

2022-12-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
You could always get a Sonos Port and hook it up to your Denon receiver since 
this would then also allow you to bring the speakers connected to your receiver 
into the Sonos system, group them and so on.
Sonos also has it's own voice assistant and it can live alongside Alexa on any 
voice enabled Sonos speaker like the Roam, Move, One or any of the soundbars. 
It works great for changing volume and it's fantastic if you have multiple 
Sonos speakers and you want to group them. You never have to open the app any 
more, I for example often want our living room Arc and surround system grouped 
with a set of Sonos One speakers in the kitchen because then my wife can watch 
a movie and I can listen in the kitchen if I am still doing something. I simply 
go in the kitchen and say "Hey Sonos, group cooking" This is because I made a 
group with living room and kitchen and named it cooking, I could also say "Hey 
Sonos, group living room and kitchen Sonos, basically you say you want to group 
whatever your speaker names are and it's actually amazing how fast it happens, 
Sonos voice assistant barely says "Grouping cooking" when the audio already 
starts playing.
In the same way if I am done and join my wife in the living room I just say 
"Hey Sonos, ungroup cooking" as I am walking out of the kitchen and it's done. 
Similarly if I have Sonos playing in say 3 rooms, bedroom, kitchen and living 
room, I can ask the Sonos assistant to change the volume which changes it for 
the entire group or I can ask it to change the volume in the living room or 
mute the bedroom etc. For actual system control it works incredibly well.
Before I bought my first Sonos surround sound setup, a Playbar, set of Play 1 
speakers for rear surrounds and a Sonos Sub I had a high-end Sony Elite series 
7.1 surround sound receiver and while this was before the days when just about 
everything was connected and had an app, I had what back then was a Sonos 
Connect hooked up to it via a digital optical connection. In this way Sonos was 
just another input source and if I wanted to listen to music in the living room 
I selected the optical digital input and after that I didn't need to do 
anything any more with my receiver since my music selection and all that was 
then done via the Sonos app. And since the Connect and now the new Port also 
has analogue inputs, I was able to connect my Sony receiver's analogue outputs 
in turn back into the Connect and this way any other source connected to my 
Sony receiver like CD player, Blu-Ray, satellite TV receiver could be played on 
my Sonos system throughout the house. If you are building a Sonos system and 
have an existing stereo system getting a Port is almost inevitable and it also 
happens to be one of the less expensive Sonos items.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2022 9:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Accessibility of music service aps

Good question. Mostly because it’s not supported by my Denon receiver, which 
does support Airplay though. It does check all of the other boxes, and I have a 
three month free subscription, so I definitely need to check it out.

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Why are you not considering Apple Music? I don't know about your Denon 
receiver, but it's certainly supported by Sonos and you can select Apple Music 
as your preferred music service in the Alexa app so if you tell Alexa on your 
Sonos Roam to play whatever music it will do so playing from Apple Music.

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Subject: Accessibility of music service aps

I’m shopping around for a new music service. It looks like right now I’m 
deciding between Spotify, Deezer and Amazon Music. I’ll play around with each 
as much as I can, but I’m wondering if anyone wants to share their opinions on 
the accessibility of the apps for these services.

Right now I’m using YouTube Music, which I like, but I’m looking for something 
that will be supported on more of the platforms I’m starting to use. I just 
bought a Sonos Roam, and I have a Denon receiver running HEOS. I also have 
smart speakers right now from Amazon, Google and Apple. I know I can use 
Airplay and Chromecast, but a service or assistant that supports these services 
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RE: Accessibility of music service aps

2022-12-27 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Good question. Mostly because it's not supported by my Denon receiver, which 
does support Airplay though. It does check all of the other boxes, and I have a 
three month free subscription, so I definitely need to check it out.

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Why are you not considering Apple Music? I don't know about your Denon 
receiver, but it's certainly supported by Sonos and you can select Apple Music 
as your preferred music service in the Alexa app so if you tell Alexa on your 
Sonos Roam to play whatever music it will do so playing from Apple Music.

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Subject: Accessibility of music service aps

I'm shopping around for a new music service. It looks like right now I'm 
deciding between Spotify, Deezer and Amazon Music. I'll play around with each 
as much as I can, but I'm wondering if anyone wants to share their opinions on 
the accessibility of the apps for these services.

Right now I'm using YouTube Music, which I like, but I'm looking for something 
that will be supported on more of the platforms I'm starting to use. I just 
bought a Sonos Roam, and I have a Denon receiver running HEOS. I also have 
smart speakers right now from Amazon, Google and Apple. I know I can use 
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RE: Accessibility of music service aps

2022-12-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Why are you not considering Apple Music? I don't know about your Denon 
receiver, but it's certainly supported by Sonos and you can select Apple Music 
as your preferred music service in the Alexa app so if you tell Alexa on your 
Sonos Roam to play whatever music it will do so playing from Apple Music.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2022 3:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Accessibility of music service aps

I’m shopping around for a new music service. It looks like right now I’m 
deciding between Spotify, Deezer and Amazon Music. I’ll play around with each 
as much as I can, but I’m wondering if anyone wants to share their opinions on 
the accessibility of the apps for these services.

Right now I’m using YouTube Music, which I like, but I’m looking for something 
that will be supported on more of the platforms I’m starting to use. I just 
bought a Sonos Roam, and I have a Denon receiver running HEOS. I also have 
smart speakers right now from Amazon, Google and Apple. I know I can use 
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Re: Accessibility of music service aps

2022-12-27 Thread 'Mervin Keck III' via VIPhone
I use YouTube Premium because the YouTube Music works so well with Sonos and also with my Mac, iPhone, and Windows platforms.MervOn Dec 27, 2022, at 6:30 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:







Thanks! I forgot to mention in my earlier post that Deezer seems to have some accessibility issues. When selecting artists for example, I couldn’t tell the state of the artist, e.g. I didn’t hear selected or unselected. I’m not sure if
 that will get in the way of my use of Deezer or not.
 

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Hi Christopher,

Spotify is pretty accessible in my opinion.


It works well with google and alexa.

Sent from my iPod






On Dec 27, 2022, at 5:05 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@outlook.com> wrote:




 
I’m shopping around for a new music service. It looks like right now I’m deciding between Spotify, Deezer and Amazon Music. I’ll play around with each as much as I can, but I’m wondering if anyone wants to share their opinions on the accessibility
 of the apps for these services.
 
Right now I’m using YouTube Music, which I like, but I’m looking for something that will be supported on more of the platforms I’m starting to use. I just bought a Sonos Roam, and I have a Denon receiver running HEOS. I also have smart
 speakers right now from Amazon, Google and Apple. I know I can use Airplay and Chromecast, but a service or assistant that supports these services would be a nice to have.
 
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RE: Accessibility of music service aps

2022-12-27 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Thanks! I forgot to mention in my earlier post that Deezer seems to have some 
accessibility issues. When selecting artists for example, I couldn’t tell the 
state of the artist, e.g. I didn’t hear selected or unselected. I’m not sure if 
that will get in the way of my use of Deezer or not.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Delia 
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Hi Christopher,
Spotify is pretty accessible in my opinion.
It works well with google and alexa.
Sent from my iPod


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I’m shopping around for a new music service. It looks like right now I’m 
deciding between Spotify, Deezer and Amazon Music. I’ll play around with each 
as much as I can, but I’m wondering if anyone wants to share their opinions on 
the accessibility of the apps for these services.

Right now I’m using YouTube Music, which I like, but I’m looking for something 
that will be supported on more of the platforms I’m starting to use. I just 
bought a Sonos Roam, and I have a Denon receiver running HEOS. I also have 
smart speakers right now from Amazon, Google and Apple. I know I can use 
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Re: Accessibility of music service aps

2022-12-27 Thread Delia Avina
Hi Christopher,
Spotify is pretty accessible in my opinion.
It works well with google and alexa.

Sent from my iPod

> On Dec 27, 2022, at 5:05 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I’m shopping around for a new music service. It looks like right now I’m 
> deciding between Spotify, Deezer and Amazon Music. I’ll play around with each 
> as much as I can, but I’m wondering if anyone wants to share their opinions 
> on the accessibility of the apps for these services.
>  
> Right now I’m using YouTube Music, which I like, but I’m looking for 
> something that will be supported on more of the platforms I’m starting to 
> use. I just bought a Sonos Roam, and I have a Denon receiver running HEOS. I 
> also have smart speakers right now from Amazon, Google and Apple. I know I 
> can use Airplay and Chromecast, but a service or assistant that supports 
> these services would be a nice to have.
>  
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Accessibility of music service aps

2022-12-27 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I'm shopping around for a new music service. It looks like right now I'm 
deciding between Spotify, Deezer and Amazon Music. I'll play around with each 
as much as I can, but I'm wondering if anyone wants to share their opinions on 
the accessibility of the apps for these services.

Right now I'm using YouTube Music, which I like, but I'm looking for something 
that will be supported on more of the platforms I'm starting to use. I just 
bought a Sonos Roam, and I have a Denon receiver running HEOS. I also have 
smart speakers right now from Amazon, Google and Apple. I know I can use 
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Re: Weather aps and Radar

2021-08-29 Thread Michael McKay
I have the Weather Network app Weather Canada app WeatherOffice app AccuWeather 
app, and the iPhones weather widget app. I have inquired concerning the 
WeatherOffice app as to whether they could have a set up where voiceover it 
would read the radar as well as some of the other apps such as the WeatherCAN 
the app. I haven’t heard anything back and the updates that I received so far, 
have not as yet corrected the problem at least not as far as I can tell. I 
guess all we can do is keep after them to see if they will make the thing more 
accessible that is the only place I have trouble and I’m not able to read or 
interpret the radar screen is in that radar mode that it reads everything.

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> images, but I have yet to find one that is  compatible with Voice over
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Weather aps and Radar

2021-08-28 Thread 'cwc' via VIPhone
I wonder if anyone has run across a weather  AP that allows Voice Over  to 
interpret the radar  images. I have run across some aps that feature radar 
images, but I have yet to find one that is  compatible with Voice over

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Re: accessible fantasy football aps

2019-08-17 Thread kitty hevener
Hi, please email me 
kheve...@earthlink.net 
to talk about fantasy football league.

From: Esubalew Johnston 
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 10:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: accessible fantasy football aps

Hey, want to join you guys legal also if you guys have room. Thanks


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 17, 2019, at 5:33 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:


  Hi Andy,  wow, thanks.  I went to their web site to see about moving my 
league there.  It was looking promising till I wanted to select keepers.  I 
could not tell it how many keepers I wanted to keep for next year.  Also, could 
not schedule an autodraft.  Will check out the ap.  Btw, have an opening for a 
player if interested, email me off line.  

  From: Andy Baracco 
  Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 6:55 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Subject: Re: accessible fantasy football aps

  The yahoo Fantasy app is completely accessible with Voiceover.  Every aspect, 
including live draft is completely usable by a blind person.  I am currently in 
an FF league on Yahoo, and have done fantasy football, baseball, and basketball 
leagues with the yahoo Fantasy app.  In fact, I wanted to do basketball last 
season and couldn't find any friends who wanted to do it with me, so I joined a 
public league on Yahoo and had no issues.

  It's by far the best fantasy experience for a blind person.

  Andy

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 3:37 PM
Subject: accessible fantasy football aps


Hi, am looking for a fantasy football ap that is totally accessible.  
Ideally, would also like to be able to do transactions on computer in case some 
of our players do not use iphones.  Your help greatly appreciated.  
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Re: accessible fantasy football aps

2019-08-17 Thread Andy Baracco
Maybe Kitty can help you, as the leagues I am in are full.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Esubalew Johnston 
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  Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 7:35 PM
  Subject: Re: accessible fantasy football aps


  Hey, want to join you guys legal also if you guys have room. Thanks


  Sent from my iPhone

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Hi Andy,  wow, thanks.  I went to their web site to see about moving my 
league there.  It was looking promising till I wanted to select keepers.  I 
could not tell it how many keepers I wanted to keep for next year.  Also, could 
not schedule an autodraft.  Will check out the ap.  Btw, have an opening for a 
player if interested, email me off line.  

From: Andy Baracco 
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 6:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: accessible fantasy football aps

The yahoo Fantasy app is completely accessible with Voiceover.  Every 
aspect, including live draft is completely usable by a blind person.  I am 
currently in an FF league on Yahoo, and have done fantasy football, baseball, 
and basketball leagues with the yahoo Fantasy app.  In fact, I wanted to do 
basketball last season and couldn't find any friends who wanted to do it with 
me, so I joined a public league on Yahoo and had no issues.

It's by far the best fantasy experience for a blind person.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 3:37 PM
  Subject: accessible fantasy football aps


  Hi, am looking for a fantasy football ap that is totally accessible.  
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Re: accessible fantasy football aps

2019-08-17 Thread Esubalew Johnston
Hey, want to join you guys legal also if you guys have room. Thanks

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 17, 2019, at 5:33 PM, kitty hevener  wrote:
> 
> Hi Andy,  wow, thanks.  I went to their web site to see about moving my 
> league there.  It was looking promising till I wanted to select keepers.  I 
> could not tell it how many keepers I wanted to keep for next year.  Also, 
> could not schedule an autodraft.  Will check out the ap.  Btw, have an 
> opening for a player if interested, email me off line. 
>  
> From: Andy Baracco
> Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 6:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: accessible fantasy football aps
>  
> The yahoo Fantasy app is completely accessible with Voiceover.  Every aspect, 
> including live draft is completely usable by a blind person.  I am currently 
> in an FF league on Yahoo, and have done fantasy football, baseball, and 
> basketball leagues with the yahoo Fantasy app.  In fact, I wanted to do 
> basketball last season and couldn't find any friends who wanted to do it with 
> me, so I joined a public league on Yahoo and had no issues.
>  
> It's by far the best fantasy experience for a blind person.
>  
> Andy
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: kitty hevener
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 3:37 PM
> Subject: accessible fantasy football aps
> 
> Hi, am looking for a fantasy football ap that is totally accessible.  
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Re: accessible fantasy football aps

2019-08-17 Thread kitty hevener
Hi Andy,  wow, thanks.  I went to their web site to see about moving my league 
there.  It was looking promising till I wanted to select keepers.  I could not 
tell it how many keepers I wanted to keep for next year.  Also, could not 
schedule an autodraft.  Will check out the ap.  Btw, have an opening for a 
player if interested, email me off line.  

From: Andy Baracco 
Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 6:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: accessible fantasy football aps

The yahoo Fantasy app is completely accessible with Voiceover.  Every aspect, 
including live draft is completely usable by a blind person.  I am currently in 
an FF league on Yahoo, and have done fantasy football, baseball, and basketball 
leagues with the yahoo Fantasy app.  In fact, I wanted to do basketball last 
season and couldn't find any friends who wanted to do it with me, so I joined a 
public league on Yahoo and had no issues.

It's by far the best fantasy experience for a blind person.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: kitty hevener 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 3:37 PM
  Subject: accessible fantasy football aps


  Hi, am looking for a fantasy football ap that is totally accessible.  
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Re: accessible fantasy football aps

2019-08-17 Thread Andy Baracco
The yahoo Fantasy app is completely accessible with Voiceover.  Every aspect, 
including live draft is completely usable by a blind person.  I am currently in 
an FF league on Yahoo, and have done fantasy football, baseball, and basketball 
leagues with the yahoo Fantasy app.  In fact, I wanted to do basketball last 
season and couldn't find any friends who wanted to do it with me, so I joined a 
public league on Yahoo and had no issues.

It's by far the best fantasy experience for a blind person.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: kitty hevener 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 3:37 PM
  Subject: accessible fantasy football aps


  Hi, am looking for a fantasy football ap that is totally accessible.  
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accessible fantasy football aps

2019-08-17 Thread kitty hevener
Hi, am looking for a fantasy football ap that is totally accessible.  Ideally, 
would also like to be able to do transactions on computer in case some of our 
players do not use iphones.  Your help greatly appreciated.  

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Re: what aps come standard on a mac?

2018-12-08 Thread Steve Matzura
Well, there's no DOS, but there *is* Terminal, which puts you into a 
Linux shell, which is way more powerful than DOS ever thought about being.



On 12/6/2018 3:33 PM, Don Moore wrote:


Steve, if Dos cam standard on a mac, I’d be there for sure! 

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*Subject:* Re: what aps come standard on a mac?

Mail, Safari (Web browser), TextEdit (similar to Windows' Notepad but 
with more features and document types it can process and create), 
Calendar, Messages, Contacts (like on the iPhone), GarageBand, to name 
some.


Obtaining new applications via the App Store is easy and accessible.

If you have never used a Macintosh computer before, I highly 
recommend--no, advise--you to get Janet Ingber's books from National 
Braille Press, such as http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/MAC-BASICS.html and 
http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/MAC-HIGHSIERRA.html


On 12/6/2018 2:41 PM, Shirley Healy wrote:

ok guys. will be getting a new mac soon. what kind of aps come as
standard on it? and how easy is it to download aps from the ap
store using vo?

shirley

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RE: what aps come standard on a mac?

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RE: what aps come standard on a mac?

2018-12-06 Thread Don Moore
Steve, if Dos cam standard on a mac, I’d be there for sure! 
 
 
 
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Subject: Re: what aps come standard on a mac?
 
Mail, Safari (Web browser), TextEdit (similar to Windows' Notepad but with more 
features and document types it can process and create), Calendar, Messages, 
Contacts (like on the iPhone), GarageBand, to name some.
 
Obtaining new applications via the App Store is easy and accessible.
 
If you have never used a Macintosh computer before, I highly recommend--no, 
advise--you to get Janet Ingber's books from National Braille Press, such as 
http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/MAC-BASICS.html and 
http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/MAC-HIGHSIERRA.html
 
On 12/6/2018 2:41 PM, Shirley Healy wrote:
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Re: what aps come standard on a mac?

2018-12-06 Thread Steve Matzura
Mail, Safari (Web browser), TextEdit (similar to Windows' Notepad but 
with more features and document types it can process and create), 
Calendar, Messages, Contacts (like on the iPhone), GarageBand, to name some.



Obtaining new applications via the App Store is easy and accessible.


If you have never used a Macintosh computer before, I highly 
recommend--no, advise--you to get Janet Ingber's books from National 
Braille Press, such as http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/MAC-BASICS.html and 
http://www.nbp.org/ic/nbp/MAC-HIGHSIERRA.html



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2018-12-06 Thread Shirley Healy
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it? and how easy is it to download aps from the ap store using vo?
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RE: Some blindness aps and games devs, disappoint in their attitudes towards

2018-10-14 Thread Richard Turner
Sieghard,
I wish I could remember the features of the Simbian system, but I only had 
access to it at work to demonstrate and train clients.  I think it had more 
navigation options and I want to say it could handle two pages of a book 
better, but I honestly can not remember.  I know it had currency identification 
which was very nice not having to use the flatbed scanner to do that.  Of 
course, the flatbed systems had to stop providing that service, but now we have 
several choices for that feature on the Apple devices.

We made it to Maui in 1992 for our honeymoon and stayed at the Royal Lahaina 
Resort on Ka'anapali beach.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2018 10:36 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Some blindness aps and games devs, disappoint in their attitudes 
towards

Hi Richard,

You know and remember more about KNFB Reader for Simbian but I thought I did 
remember that $1,500 correctly because when I once considered it here in Canada 
at the time it was well over $2,000 canadian. Just out of curiocity, what 
features did the Simbian version have which the iOS version doesn’t have?
By the way, I do agree that developers like KNFB Reader or Sendero shouldn’t 
get too many breaks when it comes to the quality of the product they offer. 
Just because they may have been first at something doesn’t mean they can now 
rest on their Laurels and expect unwavering support for a product that doesn’t 
keep up with the times.
I was even earlier to the OCR game than you, I had my first HP Scanjet with 
Arkenstone in 1989 and it was still the DOS software at that time While I never 
jumped on the mobile OCR game until the iPhone, I did spend my share of money 
for expensive blindness solutions here are a few I had:

The ”eureka” notetaker back in 1989, $3,500 canadian at the time
The Trekker Maestro I think it was 2006 or 2007, $2,00 or $2,500 canadian
A Windows 5.1 smartphone with Mobile Speak and, after I sold my Maestro, 
MobileGeo, I think it was around $300 for MobileSpeak and $900 for MobileGeo, 
that was around 2008
I bought MobileGeo from good old Aman Singer from Toronto who was a Code 
Factory reseller and from whom I haven’t heard in years either on this list or 
otherwise.
And of course I had a VictorReader Stream and a Booksense, I bought the 
Booksense in 2009 not long before I found out I could buy an iPhone 3GS or iPod 
Touch third generation with Voiceover.
I decided to try an iPod Touch first before I commited to an iPhone and bought 
one in September of 2009, shortly after I sold my Booksense and VictorReader 
Stream.
Once I bought an iPhone 4 in 2010 I also sold the iPod Touch Third Gen and was 
able to still sell my Windows Smartphone at the time with MobileSpeak and 
MobileGeo and get a bit of money for it, can’t remember, but I think I sold it 
for around $700 in total.
Ever since 2010 I only spend money on iPhones and of course apps although even 
given the $100 I spend on KNFB Reader (I think at the time I managed to snag 
some 20% iTunes Gift Cards so I also paid less for it) what I spend on apps 
over the last 9 years is probably not that much compared to the costs of some 
of the above mentioned devices.
But I must say that it was fantastic when I went to Maui in 2008 and I had my 
Trekker Maestro and I was able to walk over a mile through Lahaina from the 
dive shop where I did my scuba certificate all the way to a photo store where 
the owner was also a diver and had taken a bunch of underwater pictures for me 
and burned them onto a Cd. I had my dog with me, but if I recall I never had to 
ask a single person for directions.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2018 9:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Some blindness aps and games devs, disappoint in their attitudes 
towards

I've been using specialized OCR products for the blind since the mid 1990s 
starting with the Arkenstone system in 1995.
In the begining, it was a hybrid of MS-DOS and Windows 3.1.
I won't bore you with all of the versions, but the flatbed scanner in the early 
days was several hundred dollars, plus the $1000 or so for the sofware.
The first version of KNFB Reader that was made portable included two devices, 
an HP PDA and a digital camera strapped together so there were 2 batteries to 
keep charged and the cost was about $3,500.
The first Simbian version on a cell phone was just over $1500.
By the time the iPhone version came along, the simbian system was all but dead 
and a while before the simbian system went away, the Nokia phone/KNFB Reader 
combo had dropped in price to somewhere around $500 or $600.
So, when the $

RE: Some blindness aps and games devs, disappoint in their attitudes towards

2018-10-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Richard,

You know and remember more about KNFB Reader for Simbian but I thought I did 
remember that $1,500 correctly because when I once considered it here in Canada 
at the time it was well over $2,000 canadian. Just out of curiocity, what 
features did the Simbian version have which the iOS version doesn’t have?
By the way, I do agree that developers like KNFB Reader or Sendero shouldn’t 
get too many breaks when it comes to the quality of the product they offer. 
Just because they may have been first at something doesn’t mean they can now 
rest on their Laurels and expect unwavering support for a product that doesn’t 
keep up with the times.
I was even earlier to the OCR game than you, I had my first HP Scanjet with 
Arkenstone in 1989 and it was still the DOS software at that time While I never 
jumped on the mobile OCR game until the iPhone, I did spend my share of money 
for expensive blindness solutions here are a few I had:

The ”eureka” notetaker back in 1989, $3,500 canadian at the time
The Trekker Maestro I think it was 2006 or 2007, $2,00 or $2,500 canadian
A Windows 5.1 smartphone with Mobile Speak and, after I sold my Maestro, 
MobileGeo, I think it was around $300 for MobileSpeak and $900 for MobileGeo, 
that was around 2008
I bought MobileGeo from good old Aman Singer from Toronto who was a Code 
Factory reseller and from whom I haven’t heard in years either on this list or 
otherwise.
And of course I had a VictorReader Stream and a Booksense, I bought the 
Booksense in 2009 not long before I found out I could buy an iPhone 3GS or iPod 
Touch third generation with Voiceover.
I decided to try an iPod Touch first before I commited to an iPhone and bought 
one in September of 2009, shortly after I sold my Booksense and VictorReader 
Stream.
Once I bought an iPhone 4 in 2010 I also sold the iPod Touch Third Gen and was 
able to still sell my Windows Smartphone at the time with MobileSpeak and 
MobileGeo and get a bit of money for it, can’t remember, but I think I sold it 
for around $700 in total.
Ever since 2010 I only spend money on iPhones and of course apps although even 
given the $100 I spend on KNFB Reader (I think at the time I managed to snag 
some 20% iTunes Gift Cards so I also paid less for it) what I spend on apps 
over the last 9 years is probably not that much compared to the costs of some 
of the above mentioned devices.
But I must say that it was fantastic when I went to Maui in 2008 and I had my 
Trekker Maestro and I was able to walk over a mile through Lahaina from the 
dive shop where I did my scuba certificate all the way to a photo store where 
the owner was also a diver and had taken a bunch of underwater pictures for me 
and burned them onto a Cd. I had my dog with me, but if I recall I never had to 
ask a single person for directions.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, October 14, 2018 9:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Some blindness aps and games devs, disappoint in their attitudes 
towards

I've been using specialized OCR products for the blind since the mid 1990s 
starting with the Arkenstone system in 1995.
In the begining, it was a hybrid of MS-DOS and Windows 3.1.
I won't bore you with all of the versions, but the flatbed scanner in the early 
days was several hundred dollars, plus the $1000 or so for the sofware.
The first version of KNFB Reader that was made portable included two devices, 
an HP PDA and a digital camera strapped together so there were 2 batteries to 
keep charged and the cost was about $3,500.
The first Simbian version on a cell phone was just over $1500.
By the time the iPhone version came along, the simbian system was all but dead 
and a while before the simbian system went away, the Nokia phone/KNFB Reader 
combo had dropped in price to somewhere around $500 or $600.
So, when the $100 iPhone version was quite exciting, though the $10 Prizmo app 
was quite good if way more tedious to use.
I waited until KNFB Reader was on sale for $49.99 to buy it myself, though I 
still thought that was rather high for what it did since it did not have all 
the features the simbian version had.
I still find the fact that Prizmo Go for free offers format retention and The 
full Prizmo at $10 offers document saving also with format retention to put 
KNFB Reader to shame.
Yes, the Prizmo products are rather tedious to use, so I do not use them that 
much, but it isn't just Microsoft with their massive resources who are out 
performing KNFB.
The fact that KNFB is so unresponsive to customer feedback and that they have 
gone backwards in their usability, no matter what their previous performance 
was like, puts them on my personal (explative remove) list.

Richard




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Phillips





礪

On Oct 14, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I hear what you’re saying. But the

Re: Some blindness aps and games devs, disappoint in their attitudes towards

2018-10-14 Thread Richard Turner
I've been using specialized OCR products for the blind since the mid 1990s 
starting with the Arkenstone system in 1995.
In the begining, it was a hybrid of MS-DOS and Windows 3.1.
I won't bore you with all of the versions, but the flatbed scanner in the early 
days was several hundred dollars, plus the $1000 or so for the sofware.
The first version of KNFB Reader that was made portable included two devices, 
an HP PDA and a digital camera strapped together so there were 2 batteries to 
keep charged and the cost was about $3,500.
The first Simbian version on a cell phone was just over $1500.
By the time the iPhone version came along, the simbian system was all but dead 
and a while before the simbian system went away, the Nokia phone/KNFB Reader 
combo had dropped in price to somewhere around $500 or $600.
So, when the $100 iPhone version was quite exciting, though the $10 Prizmo app 
was quite good if way more tedious to use.
I waited until KNFB Reader was on sale for $49.99 to buy it myself, though I 
still thought that was rather high for what it did since it did not have all 
the features the simbian version had.
I still find the fact that Prizmo Go for free offers format retention and The 
full Prizmo at $10 offers document saving also with format retention to put 
KNFB Reader to shame.
Yes, the Prizmo products are rather tedious to use, so I do not use them that 
much, but it isn't just Microsoft with their massive resources who are out 
performing KNFB.
The fact that KNFB is so unresponsive to customer feedback and that they have 
gone backwards in their usability, no matter what their previous performance 
was like, puts them on my personal (explative remove) list.

Richard




xpert: an ex is a has-been, a spirt is a drip under pressure. -- Bruce U. Utah 
Phillips



礪

On Oct 14, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

I hear what you’re saying. But the  knFB reader was never equivalent to the 
blindness specific OCR apps which cost about $1000, not 1400, at least not in 
the US. Maybe it was 1400 Canadian? Those were quite expensive, still are. But 
they have a whole bunch of features that the iPhone app from KNFB Reader has 
never offered.


Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 14, 2018, at 8:47 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

And just to remind all of you that when KNFB Reader first came out and for some 
years afterwards it was considered the best OCR app out there, a game-changer 
and many of us were happy to pay $100 for an app which previously when it was 
available for okia cost $1,500. There have always been other OCR apps, but none 
was as user-friendly and worked as well for a blind person as KNFB Reader until 
the Seeing AI app came along. Now KNFB Reader is talked down because Microsoft, 
a multi-billion Dollar organisation has spend what probably is a few hundred 
thousand Dollars on the development of Seeing AI and they are giving it away 
for free. They probably write this off as charity or something but I'm always 
surprised how short people's memories sometime sare and how sometimes one app 
or developer is talked about like the second coming until they do something 
which doesn't suit some people and then it's a 180 degree reversal in attitudes.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Anthony Vece
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 10:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Some blindness aps and games devs, disappoint in their attitudes 
towards

Richard;
I agree completely with your assessment.
It’s just another example with KNFB Reader of how we are over charged.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!

On Oct 13, 2018, at 1:23 PM, Richard Turner 
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Frankly, KNFB Reader isn't worth the $100 US it costs and would certainly not 
be worth the 1884.70 in Mexico.

The only advantages it has over Seeing AI is that you can do multiple pages and 
save them as one document.
I suppose also that you only have to be about 12 inches or so above a document 
with KNFB Reader, and while you can manually take a picture at that height with 
Seeing AI, it won't do its automatic scan until you get about 18 inches or so 
above the page.

Seeing AI costs nothing.

Just my 37 centavos worth.

Richard



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pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 9:28 AM
To: iPhone List mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Some blindness aps and games devs, disappoint in their attitudes 
towards

As some of you guys might already know, I’m the person responsible for t

Re: Some blindness aps and games devs, disappoint in their attitudes towards

2018-10-14 Thread Mary Otten
I hear what you’re saying. But the  knFB reader was never equivalent to the 
blindness specific OCR apps which cost about $1000, not 1400, at least not in 
the US. Maybe it was 1400 Canadian? Those were quite expensive, still are. But 
they have a whole bunch of features that the iPhone app from KNFB Reader has 
never offered. 


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 14, 2018, at 8:47 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> And just to remind all of you that when KNFB Reader first came out and for 
> some years afterwards it was considered the best OCR app out there, a 
> game-changer and many of us were happy to pay $100 for an app which 
> previously when it was available for okia cost $1,500. There have always been 
> other OCR apps, but none was as user-friendly and worked as well for a blind 
> person as KNFB Reader until the Seeing AI app came along. Now KNFB Reader is 
> talked down because Microsoft, a multi-billion Dollar organisation has spend 
> what probably is a few hundred thousand Dollars on the development of Seeing 
> AI and they are giving it away for free. They probably write this off as 
> charity or something but I'm always surprised how short people's memories 
> sometime sare and how sometimes one app or developer is talked about like the 
> second coming until they do something which doesn't suit some people and then 
> it's a 180 degree reversal in attitudes.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 10:32 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Some blindness aps and games devs, disappoint in their attitudes 
> towards
> 
> Richard;
> I agree completely with your assessment.
> It’s just another example with KNFB Reader of how we are over charged.
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2018, at 1:23 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Frankly, KNFB Reader isn't worth the $100 US it costs and would certainly 
>> not be worth the 1884.70 in Mexico.
>> 
>> The only advantages it has over Seeing AI is that you can do multiple pages 
>> and save them as one document.
>> I suppose also that you only have to be about 12 inches or so above a 
>> document with KNFB Reader, and while you can manually take a picture at that 
>> height with Seeing AI, it won't do its automatic scan until you get about 18 
>> inches or so above the page.
>> 
>> Seeing AI costs nothing.  
>> 
>> Just my 37 centavos worth.
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
>> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Gerardo Corripio
>> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 9:28 AM
>> To: iPhone List 
>> Subject: Some blindness aps and games devs, disappoint in their attitudes 
>> towards
>> 
>> As some of you guys might already know, I’m the person responsible for the 
>> “Ciberaprendiendo Tutorials and Tech” pocast which airs Tuesays at 
>> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eiberoamerica.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7Cbf67824455024fd7c25508d63128e70e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636750449068993521sdata=FjiOiH8pvsZ5nqJFKH8wQZg4QjxZj0vOsRVEpImzrj8%3Dreserved=0,
>>  and whenever I find an app that I personally feel would benefit the blind 
>> (especially those here in Latin America and other Spanish-speaking blind 
>> folks) I send an EMail to the devs of these aps, with generally interest in 
>> me featuring their apps in the before-mentioned podcast, which has an 
>> average listenership of between 800-1600 monthly, depending on the apps or 
>> services featured. However I’ve encountered two or 3 blindness devs whose 
>> attitudes leave to be desired. It’s as if ey all seem to think that we blind 
>> folks live in the same economic situation, in which usd$1.99 independent of 
>> where we are, is the same; here in Mexico, for instance, a USD$2 app or game 
>> would be almost Mxn$40. Yes I know I could buy these games. As long as I 
>> have the funds for these, but or more-expensive aps? Among the promo codes 
>> I’d like to get to record “Ciberaprendiendo” episodes on are KNFB Reader, 
>> and the Knight Commander recently-released game, which I could probably buy, 
>> but not until I have enough funds for.kn
>> 
>> Gera
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RE: Some blindness aps and games devs, disappoint in their attitudes towards

2018-10-14 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
And just to remind all of you that when KNFB Reader first came out and for some 
years afterwards it was considered the best OCR app out there, a game-changer 
and many of us were happy to pay $100 for an app which previously when it was 
available for okia cost $1,500. There have always been other OCR apps, but none 
was as user-friendly and worked as well for a blind person as KNFB Reader until 
the Seeing AI app came along. Now KNFB Reader is talked down because Microsoft, 
a multi-billion Dollar organisation has spend what probably is a few hundred 
thousand Dollars on the development of Seeing AI and they are giving it away 
for free. They probably write this off as charity or something but I'm always 
surprised how short people's memories sometime sare and how sometimes one app 
or developer is talked about like the second coming until they do something 
which doesn't suit some people and then it's a 180 degree reversal in attitudes.

Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Vece
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 10:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Some blindness aps and games devs, disappoint in their attitudes 
towards

Richard;
I agree completely with your assessment.
It’s just another example with KNFB Reader of how we are over charged.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!

> On Oct 13, 2018, at 1:23 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Frankly, KNFB Reader isn't worth the $100 US it costs and would certainly not 
> be worth the 1884.70 in Mexico.
> 
> The only advantages it has over Seeing AI is that you can do multiple pages 
> and save them as one document.
> I suppose also that you only have to be about 12 inches or so above a 
> document with KNFB Reader, and while you can manually take a picture at that 
> height with Seeing AI, it won't do its automatic scan until you get about 18 
> inches or so above the page.
> 
> Seeing AI costs nothing.  
> 
> Just my 37 centavos worth.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 9:28 AM
> To: iPhone List 
> Subject: Some blindness aps and games devs, disappoint in their attitudes 
> towards
> 
> As some of you guys might already know, I’m the person responsible for the 
> “Ciberaprendiendo Tutorials and Tech” pocast which airs Tuesays at 
> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eiberoamerica.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7Cbf67824455024fd7c25508d63128e70e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636750449068993521sdata=FjiOiH8pvsZ5nqJFKH8wQZg4QjxZj0vOsRVEpImzrj8%3Dreserved=0,
>  and whenever I find an app that I personally feel would benefit the blind 
> (especially those here in Latin America and other Spanish-speaking blind 
> folks) I send an EMail to the devs of these aps, with generally interest in 
> me featuring their apps in the before-mentioned podcast, which has an average 
> listenership of between 800-1600 monthly, depending on the apps or services 
> featured. However I’ve encountered two or 3 blindness devs whose attitudes 
> leave to be desired. It’s as if ey all seem to think that we blind folks live 
> in the same economic situation, in which usd$1.99 independent of where we 
> are, is the same; here in Mexico, for instance, a USD$2 app or game would be 
> almost Mxn$40. Yes I know I could buy these games. As long as I have the 
> funds for these, but or more-expensive aps? Among the promo codes I’d like to 
> get to record “Ciberaprendiendo” episodes on are KNFB Reader, and the Knight 
> Commander recently-released game, which I could probably buy, but not until I 
> have enough funds for.kn
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
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Re: Some blindness aps and games devs, disappoint in their attitudes towards

2018-10-13 Thread Anthony Vece
Richard;
I agree completely with your assessment.
It’s just another example with KNFB Reader of how we are over charged.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!

> On Oct 13, 2018, at 1:23 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Frankly, KNFB Reader isn't worth the $100 US it costs and would certainly not 
> be worth the 1884.70 in Mexico.
> 
> The only advantages it has over Seeing AI is that you can do multiple pages 
> and save them as one document.
> I suppose also that you only have to be about 12 inches or so above a 
> document with KNFB Reader, and while you can manually take a picture at that 
> height with Seeing AI, it won't do its automatic scan until you get about 18 
> inches or so above the page.
> 
> Seeing AI costs nothing.  
> 
> Just my 37 centavos worth.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 9:28 AM
> To: iPhone List 
> Subject: Some blindness aps and games devs, disappoint in their attitudes 
> towards
> 
> As some of you guys might already know, I’m the person responsible for the 
> “Ciberaprendiendo Tutorials and Tech” pocast which airs Tuesays at 
> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eiberoamerica.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7Cbf67824455024fd7c25508d63128e70e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636750449068993521sdata=FjiOiH8pvsZ5nqJFKH8wQZg4QjxZj0vOsRVEpImzrj8%3Dreserved=0,
>  and whenever I find an app that I personally feel would benefit the blind 
> (especially those here in Latin America and other Spanish-speaking blind 
> folks) I send an EMail to the devs of these aps, with generally interest in 
> me featuring their apps in the before-mentioned podcast, which has an average 
> listenership of between 800-1600 monthly, depending on the apps or services 
> featured. However I’ve encountered two or 3 blindness devs whose attitudes 
> leave to be desired. It’s as if ey all seem to think that we blind folks live 
> in the same economic situation, in which usd$1.99 independent of where we 
> are, is the same; here in Mexico, for instance, a USD$2 app or game would be 
> almost Mxn$40. Yes I know I could buy these games. As long as I have the 
> funds for these, but or more-expensive aps? Among the promo codes I’d like to 
> get to record “Ciberaprendiendo” episodes on are KNFB Reader, and the Knight 
> Commander recently-released game, which I could probably buy, but not until I 
> have enough funds for.kn
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
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Re: Some blindness aps and games devs, disappoint in their attitudes towards

2018-10-13 Thread Mary Otten
Hi richard,
Yes, I have recently successfully imported and read an image file that I got 
from my physician. I certainly didn’t understand all of the numbers, smile. But 
I did understand the bottom line. And it was definitely an image based file, 
because I first opened it in the mail program, and it was empty or blank. I had 
that problem before, where it wouldn’t read. But some update our other fixed it 
for me.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 13, 2018, at 10:29 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> Have you done that successfully since the 3.x update?
> It stopped working for me when they did their update and even the latest 3.1 
> or whatever the heck it is, it will not import a PDF and do squat.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
> Otten
> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 10:27 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Some blindness aps and games devs, disappoint in their attitudes 
> towards
> 
> I agree about the cost for KNFB reader being too high. But it does have one 
> other thing that you can do that seeing a I can’t. You can import an image 
> based PDF file and get a decent text.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2018, at 10:23 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Frankly, KNFB Reader isn't worth the $100 US it costs and would certainly 
>> not be worth the 1884.70 in Mexico.
>> 
>> The only advantages it has over Seeing AI is that you can do multiple pages 
>> and save them as one document.
>> I suppose also that you only have to be about 12 inches or so above a 
>> document with KNFB Reader, and while you can manually take a picture at that 
>> height with Seeing AI, it won't do its automatic scan until you get about 18 
>> inches or so above the page.
>> 
>> Seeing AI costs nothing.  
>> 
>> Just my 37 centavos worth.
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
>> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Gerardo Corripio
>> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 9:28 AM
>> To: iPhone List 
>> Subject: Some blindness aps and games devs, disappoint in their attitudes 
>> towards
>> 
>> As some of you guys might already know, I’m the person responsible for the 
>> “Ciberaprendiendo Tutorials and Tech” pocast which airs Tuesays at 
>> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eiberoamerica.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7C0e617039ede34d80bb7608d631310a1e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636750484016141468sdata=CpEJ1Z6ilar6rY1ms4sURFxVxgmvZtzYwVBR0%2B8bc04%3Dreserved=0,
>>  and whenever I find an app that I personally feel would benefit the blind 
>> (especially those here in Latin America and other Spanish-speaking blind 
>> folks) I send an EMail to the devs of these aps, with generally interest in 
>> me featuring their apps in the before-mentioned podcast, which has an 
>> average listenership of between 800-1600 monthly, depending on the apps or 
>> services featured. However I’ve encountered two or 3 blindness devs whose 
>> attitudes leave to be desired. It’s as if ey all seem to think that we blind 
>> folks live in the same economic situation, in which usd$1.99 independent of 
>> where we are, is the same; here in Mexico, for instance, a USD$2 app or game 
>> would be almost Mxn$40. Yes I know I could buy these games. As long as I 
>> have the funds for these, but or more-expensive aps? Among the promo codes 
>> I’d like to get to record “Ciberaprendiendo” episodes on are KNFB Reader, 
>> and the Knight Commander recently-released game, which I could probably buy, 
>> but not until I have enough funds for.kn
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
>> 
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RE: Some blindness aps and games devs, disappoint in their attitudes towards

2018-10-13 Thread Richard Turner
Hi Mary,
Have you done that successfully since the 3.x update?
It stopped working for me when they did their update and even the latest 3.1 or 
whatever the heck it is, it will not import a PDF and do squat.

Richard



“Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 10:27 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Some blindness aps and games devs, disappoint in their attitudes 
towards

I agree about the cost for KNFB reader being too high. But it does have one 
other thing that you can do that seeing a I can’t. You can import an image 
based PDF file and get a decent text.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 13, 2018, at 10:23 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Frankly, KNFB Reader isn't worth the $100 US it costs and would certainly not 
> be worth the 1884.70 in Mexico.
> 
> The only advantages it has over Seeing AI is that you can do multiple pages 
> and save them as one document.
> I suppose also that you only have to be about 12 inches or so above a 
> document with KNFB Reader, and while you can manually take a picture at that 
> height with Seeing AI, it won't do its automatic scan until you get about 18 
> inches or so above the page.
> 
> Seeing AI costs nothing.  
> 
> Just my 37 centavos worth.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 9:28 AM
> To: iPhone List 
> Subject: Some blindness aps and games devs, disappoint in their attitudes 
> towards
> 
> As some of you guys might already know, I’m the person responsible for the 
> “Ciberaprendiendo Tutorials and Tech” pocast which airs Tuesays at 
> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eiberoamerica.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7C0e617039ede34d80bb7608d631310a1e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636750484016141468sdata=CpEJ1Z6ilar6rY1ms4sURFxVxgmvZtzYwVBR0%2B8bc04%3Dreserved=0,
>  and whenever I find an app that I personally feel would benefit the blind 
> (especially those here in Latin America and other Spanish-speaking blind 
> folks) I send an EMail to the devs of these aps, with generally interest in 
> me featuring their apps in the before-mentioned podcast, which has an average 
> listenership of between 800-1600 monthly, depending on the apps or services 
> featured. However I’ve encountered two or 3 blindness devs whose attitudes 
> leave to be desired. It’s as if ey all seem to think that we blind folks live 
> in the same economic situation, in which usd$1.99 independent of where we 
> are, is the same; here in Mexico, for instance, a USD$2 app or game would be 
> almost Mxn$40. Yes I know I could buy these games. As long as I have the 
> funds for these, but or more-expensive aps? Among the promo codes I’d like to 
> get to record “Ciberaprendiendo” episodes on are KNFB Reader, and the Knight 
> Commander recently-released game, which I could probably buy, but not until I 
> have enough funds for.kn
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
> 
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Re: Some blindness aps and games devs, disappoint in their attitudes towards

2018-10-13 Thread Mary Otten
I agree about the cost for KNFB reader being too high. But it does have one 
other thing that you can do that seeing a I can’t. You can import an image 
based PDF file and get a decent text.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 13, 2018, at 10:23 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> Frankly, KNFB Reader isn't worth the $100 US it costs and would certainly not 
> be worth the 1884.70 in Mexico.
> 
> The only advantages it has over Seeing AI is that you can do multiple pages 
> and save them as one document.
> I suppose also that you only have to be about 12 inches or so above a 
> document with KNFB Reader, and while you can manually take a picture at that 
> height with Seeing AI, it won't do its automatic scan until you get about 18 
> inches or so above the page.
> 
> Seeing AI costs nothing.  
> 
> Just my 37 centavos worth.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Gerardo Corripio
> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 9:28 AM
> To: iPhone List 
> Subject: Some blindness aps and games devs, disappoint in their attitudes 
> towards
> 
> As some of you guys might already know, I’m the person responsible for the 
> “Ciberaprendiendo Tutorials and Tech” pocast which airs Tuesays at 
> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eiberoamerica.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7Cbf67824455024fd7c25508d63128e70e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636750449068993521sdata=FjiOiH8pvsZ5nqJFKH8wQZg4QjxZj0vOsRVEpImzrj8%3Dreserved=0,
>  and whenever I find an app that I personally feel would benefit the blind 
> (especially those here in Latin America and other Spanish-speaking blind 
> folks) I send an EMail to the devs of these aps, with generally interest in 
> me featuring their apps in the before-mentioned podcast, which has an average 
> listenership of between 800-1600 monthly, depending on the apps or services 
> featured. However I’ve encountered two or 3 blindness devs whose attitudes 
> leave to be desired. It’s as if ey all seem to think that we blind folks live 
> in the same economic situation, in which usd$1.99 independent of where we 
> are, is the same; here in Mexico, for instance, a USD$2 app or game would be 
> almost Mxn$40. Yes I know I could buy these games. As long as I have the 
> funds for these, but or more-expensive aps? Among the promo codes I’d like to 
> get to record “Ciberaprendiendo” episodes on are KNFB Reader, and the Knight 
> Commander recently-released game, which I could probably buy, but not until I 
> have enough funds for.kn
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RE: Some blindness aps and games devs, disappoint in their attitudes towards

2018-10-13 Thread Richard Turner
Frankly, KNFB Reader isn't worth the $100 US it costs and would certainly not 
be worth the 1884.70 in Mexico.

The only advantages it has over Seeing AI is that you can do multiple pages and 
save them as one document.
I suppose also that you only have to be about 12 inches or so above a document 
with KNFB Reader, and while you can manually take a picture at that height with 
Seeing AI, it won't do its automatic scan until you get about 18 inches or so 
above the page.

Seeing AI costs nothing.  

Just my 37 centavos worth.
 
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As some of you guys might already know, I’m the person responsible for the 
“Ciberaprendiendo Tutorials and Tech” pocast which airs Tuesays at 
https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eiberoamerica.comdata=02%7C01%7C%7Cbf67824455024fd7c25508d63128e70e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636750449068993521sdata=FjiOiH8pvsZ5nqJFKH8wQZg4QjxZj0vOsRVEpImzrj8%3Dreserved=0,
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(especially those here in Latin America and other Spanish-speaking blind folks) 
I send an EMail to the devs of these aps, with generally interest in me 
featuring their apps in the before-mentioned podcast, which has an average 
listenership of between 800-1600 monthly, depending on the apps or services 
featured. However I’ve encountered two or 3 blindness devs whose attitudes 
leave to be desired. It’s as if ey all seem to think that we blind folks live 
in the same economic situation, in which usd$1.99 independent of where we are, 
is the same; here in Mexico, for instance, a USD$2 app or game would be almost 
Mxn$40. Yes I know I could buy these games. As long as I have the funds for 
these, but or more-expensive aps? Among the promo codes I’d like to get to 
record “Ciberaprendiendo” episodes on are KNFB Reader, and the Knight Commander 
recently-released game, which I could probably buy, but not until I have enough 
funds for.kn

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Re: Some blindness aps and games devs, disappoint in their attitudes towards

2018-10-13 Thread Michael Feir
Have to agree here. Having a game cheeper in one country than another just
doesn't make sense. I'm Canadian and have certainly seen prices for apps
rise drastically over the past while. However, there have also been brief
periods where our dollar was higher than the US dollar. Apple is an
American company so it makes sense that prices are based on the US economy.

Honestly, I think we've been somewhat spoiled when it comes to app prices.
Making a living as an appdeveloper isn't easy. Software like OCR or GPS
software which does equivalent things on other platforms has been
stupendously expensive when compare to even the highest app prices. It
doesn't surpriise me that some apps like Ulysses are going to a
subscription model. I love that app and am a happy subscriber understanding
that in order to keep development steady and safe, you need a steady
income. Appps which don't have inapp purchases or subscriptions have to
survive on waves of income based on one-time sales. They have to focus on
features for each new update which might possibly attract new good reviews
and customers rather than develop what they have more systematically.

I'm working on a guide for blind owners of iOS devices. I plan to release
that guide for free, but it's taken me a long time to do it.  I'll have
spent three years on this when it's hopefully ready in March. It's over
14 words long now and will probably be over 20 words when it's
done. Unlike most app developers I've heard about, I'm in a situation where
I can afford to spend my time and effort doing this. Most of them really
struggle financially even after they release their apps. It also costs
money to have an app in the app store as well as time and effort to
maintain it after it's out there. Do you realise Apple takes a 30% cut of
all app sales? Because I'm giving my gide away, I don't have those kind of
continued costs to worry about. On the flip side, I don't have any sort of
budget for advertising and distributing it.

I'm on social assistance and absolutely get how hard it can be to afford
some of the more useful apps. However, similar to books, I understand just
enough of what developers have to go through to have some real sympathy for
them. If I had my way, I'd be able to travel to new owners of these devices
and help them get an understanding of how to operate them and the scope of
what's possible with them. However, that would be well beyond what my
finances could stand. Writing the guide and recording the lectures are what
is possible within my circumstances. Developers also have other stresses in
life and hard financial realities to deal with. I think most people who
create things wish they could do more to make them spread and be more
affordable than is usually possible.
On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 12:40 PM Herv  wrote:

> It's been like that ever since apps were invented.
> It starts in USD, and then apple converts into your currency depending on
> your location.
> Sucks because the US dollar is quite high right now, but nothing to cry
> about.
> Developers aren't going to make an app's price based on your location.
> Do you know how many times they'd have to relist the app?
> Be happy we have it at all.
> I remember the accessibility we had 10 years ago, so I'm thankful for what
> I have.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 13, 2018, at 12:28 PM, Gerardo Corripio 
> wrote:
> >
> > As some of you guys might already know, I’m the person responsible for
> the “Ciberaprendiendo Tutorials and Tech” pocast which airs Tuesays at
> http://www.eiberoamerica.com, and whenever I find an app that I
> personally feel would benefit the blind (especially those here in Latin
> America and other Spanish-speaking blind folks) I send an EMail to the devs
> of these aps, with generally interest in me featuring their apps in the
> before-mentioned podcast, which has an average listenership of between
> 800-1600 monthly, depending on the apps or services featured. However I’ve
> encountered two or 3 blindness devs whose attitudes leave to be desired.
> It’s as if ey all seem to think that we blind folks live in the same
> economic situation, in which usd$1.99 independent of where we are, is the
> same; here in Mexico, for instance, a USD$2 app or game would be almost
> Mxn$40. Yes I know I could buy these games. As long as I have the funds for
> these, but or more-expensive aps? Among the promo codes I’d like to get to
> record “Ciberaprendiendo” episodes on are KNFB Reader, and the Knight
> Commander recently-released game, which I could probably buy, but not until
> I have enough funds for.kn
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Re: Some blindness aps and games devs, disappoint in their attitudes towards

2018-10-13 Thread Gerardo Corripio
yes true; I too is a dream comb true on all what the iPhone offhrs for us. I 
was just curious if I was the only one who have experienced these ups and 
downs. I.m sure I.m not the only one who colaborates on blindness blindness 
blogs, and ocasionally ask for promo codes on apps, right? I try and purchase 
all I can of course, but nevertheless this is kind of surprising some of these 
attitudes.

Gera
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El 13 oct 2018, a la(s) 11:40 a. m., Herv  escribió:

> It's been like that ever since apps were invented.
> It starts in USD, and then apple converts into your currency depending on 
> your location.
> Sucks because the US dollar is quite high right now, but nothing to cry about.
> Developers aren't going to make an app's price based on your location.
> Do you know how many times they'd have to relist the app?
> Be happy we have it at all.
> I remember the accessibility we had 10 years ago, so I'm thankful for what I 
> have.
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2018, at 12:28 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
>> 
>> As some of you guys might already know, I’m the person responsible for the 
>> “Ciberaprendiendo Tutorials and Tech” pocast which airs Tuesays at 
>> http://www.eiberoamerica.com, and whenever I find an app that I personally 
>> feel would benefit the blind (especially those here in Latin America and 
>> other Spanish-speaking blind folks) I send an EMail to the devs of these 
>> aps, with generally interest in me featuring their apps in the 
>> before-mentioned podcast, which has an average listenership of between 
>> 800-1600 monthly, depending on the apps or services featured. However I’ve 
>> encountered two or 3 blindness devs whose attitudes leave to be desired. 
>> It’s as if ey all seem to think that we blind folks live in the same 
>> economic situation, in which usd$1.99 independent of where we are, is the 
>> same; here in Mexico, for instance, a USD$2 app or game would be almost 
>> Mxn$40. Yes I know I could buy these games. As long as I have the funds for 
>> these, but or more-expensive aps? Among the promo codes I’d like to get to 
>> record “Ciberaprendiendo” episodes on are KNFB Reader, and the Knight 
>> Commander recently-released game, which I could probably buy, but not until 
>> I have enough funds for.kn
>> 
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Re: Some blindness aps and games devs, disappoint in their attitudes towards

2018-10-13 Thread Herv
It's been like that ever since apps were invented.
It starts in USD, and then apple converts into your currency depending on your 
location.
Sucks because the US dollar is quite high right now, but nothing to cry about.
Developers aren't going to make an app's price based on your location.
Do you know how many times they'd have to relist the app?
Be happy we have it at all.
I remember the accessibility we had 10 years ago, so I'm thankful for what I 
have.



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> On Oct 13, 2018, at 12:28 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> As some of you guys might already know, I’m the person responsible for the 
> “Ciberaprendiendo Tutorials and Tech” pocast which airs Tuesays at 
> http://www.eiberoamerica.com, and whenever I find an app that I personally 
> feel would benefit the blind (especially those here in Latin America and 
> other Spanish-speaking blind folks) I send an EMail to the devs of these aps, 
> with generally interest in me featuring their apps in the before-mentioned 
> podcast, which has an average listenership of between 800-1600 monthly, 
> depending on the apps or services featured. However I’ve encountered two or 3 
> blindness devs whose attitudes leave to be desired. It’s as if ey all seem to 
> think that we blind folks live in the same economic situation, in which 
> usd$1.99 independent of where we are, is the same; here in Mexico, for 
> instance, a USD$2 app or game would be almost Mxn$40. Yes I know I could buy 
> these games. As long as I have the funds for these, but or more-expensive 
> aps? Among the promo codes I’d like to get to record “Ciberaprendiendo” 
> episodes on are KNFB Reader, and the Knight Commander recently-released game, 
> which I could probably buy, but not until I have enough funds for.kn
> 
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Some blindness aps and games devs, disappoint in their attitudes towards

2018-10-13 Thread Gerardo Corripio
As some of you guys might already know, I’m the person responsible for the 
“Ciberaprendiendo Tutorials and Tech” pocast which airs Tuesays at 
http://www.eiberoamerica.com, and whenever I find an app that I personally feel 
would benefit the blind (especially those here in Latin America and other 
Spanish-speaking blind folks) I send an EMail to the devs of these aps, with 
generally interest in me featuring their apps in the before-mentioned podcast, 
which has an average listenership of between 800-1600 monthly, depending on the 
apps or services featured. However I’ve encountered two or 3 blindness devs 
whose attitudes leave to be desired. It’s as if ey all seem to think that we 
blind folks live in the same economic situation, in which usd$1.99 independent 
of where we are, is the same; here in Mexico, for instance, a USD$2 app or game 
would be almost Mxn$40. Yes I know I could buy these games. As long as I have 
the funds for these, but or more-expensive aps? Among the promo codes I’d like 
to get to record “Ciberaprendiendo” episodes on are KNFB Reader, and the Knight 
Commander recently-released game, which I could probably buy, but not until I 
have enough funds for.kn

Gera
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Re: Apple watch aps

2018-04-18 Thread Lynda Ingraham

Will the app continually read your heart rate with go? Also, how well does it 
track recumbent bike and elliptical workouts?Hi,



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> I have used it fpor longer outdoor walks, also some runs and pool swims and I 
> just use the Workout app and select the appropriate activity which I am doing.
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> Hi Apple watch users
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> wondered if any of you apple watch users are using it for running and if so 
> which aps do you use please.
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RE: Apple watch aps

2018-04-16 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
I have used it fpor longer outdoor walks, also some runs and pool swims and I 
just use the Workout app and select the appropriate activity which I am doing.

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Subject: Apple watch aps

Hi Apple watch users

wondered if any of you apple watch users are using it for running and if so 
which aps do you use please.

Thanks
Linda
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Apple watch aps

2018-04-16 Thread 'Linda Gaitskell' via VIPhone
Hi Apple watch users

wondered if any of you apple watch users are using it for running and if so 
which aps do you use please.

Thanks
Linda

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Accessible Mind Mapping Aps?

2016-02-23 Thread Dani Pagador
Hi, Everyone.
Are there any accessible mind mapping/diagraming aps?

Thanks,
Dani

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Re: Ap layout... moving aps in the apple watch.

2015-07-05 Thread Jenifer Barr
Hi Anna.
Yes, that did help... thank you. 


Jenifer Barr
Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 5, 2015, at 3:36 PM, Woody Anna Dresner wadres...@att.net wrote:
 
 Hi Jennifer,
 
 You're exactly right about how to move apps. I think flicking may work 
 differently because instead of being in a grid pattern, items on the watch 
 screen tend to be arranged more in concentric circles, with the watch face in 
 the middle. On podcasts, I've heard people describe arranging their apps in a 
 lot of different shapes. With this variety, my guess is that flicking through 
 will take you to every app, but not necessarily in the order you would 
 expect. I mostly get to apps by using Siri, by double-tapping complications 
 or notifications, and by only turning on the glances I need and putting them 
 in the order I want. That way, I don't have to deal with the home screen much.
 
 I hope that's of some help.
 
 Best,
 Anna
 
 
 
 On Jul 3, 2015, at 6:43 AM, Jenifer Barr claudas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all.
 So I'm trying to sort my aps on the apple watch... moving the aps I don't 
 use to the end of the list etc. But, when I go to the apple watch ap on my 
 iPhone... ap layout... when I think I've moved an ap to where I want it then 
 flick... the order the aps are when flicking is different from the order 
 when I move my finger around the screen. Perhaps I'm not explaining myself 
 very well... but how does one successfully move aps around? Isn't it just 
 like moving them on the ipone home screen? Again, I'm using the apple watch 
 ap on my phone.
 Thanks for any assistance.
 
 
 Jenifer Barr
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: Ap layout... moving aps in the apple watch.

2015-07-05 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi Jennifer,

You're exactly right about how to move apps. I think flicking may work 
differently because instead of being in a grid pattern, items on the watch 
screen tend to be arranged more in concentric circles, with the watch face in 
the middle. On podcasts, I've heard people describe arranging their apps in a 
lot of different shapes. With this variety, my guess is that flicking through 
will take you to every app, but not necessarily in the order you would expect. 
I mostly get to apps by using Siri, by double-tapping complications or 
notifications, and by only turning on the glances I need and putting them in 
the order I want. That way, I don't have to deal with the home screen much.

I hope that's of some help.

Best,
Anna



 On Jul 3, 2015, at 6:43 AM, Jenifer Barr claudas...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all.
 So I'm trying to sort my aps on the apple watch... moving the aps I don't use 
 to the end of the list etc. But, when I go to the apple watch ap on my 
 iPhone... ap layout... when I think I've moved an ap to where I want it then 
 flick... the order the aps are when flicking is different from the order when 
 I move my finger around the screen. Perhaps I'm not explaining myself very 
 well... but how does one successfully move aps around? Isn't it just like 
 moving them on the ipone home screen? Again, I'm using the apple watch ap on 
 my phone.
 Thanks for any assistance.
 
 
 Jenifer Barr
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Ap layout... moving aps in the apple watch.

2015-07-03 Thread Jenifer Barr
Hi all.
So I'm trying to sort my aps on the apple watch... moving the aps I don't use 
to the end of the list etc. But, when I go to the apple watch ap on my 
iPhone... ap layout... when I think I've moved an ap to where I want it then 
flick... the order the aps are when flicking is different from the order when I 
move my finger around the screen. Perhaps I'm not explaining myself very 
well... but how does one successfully move aps around? Isn't it just like 
moving them on the ipone home screen? Again, I'm using the apple watch ap on my 
phone.
Thanks for any assistance.


Jenifer Barr
Sent from my iPhone

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Navigation Aps

2015-04-26 Thread Jewel
Hi Good Folk!  This is my first post to this list.  My * first I phone:  a 
Iphone GS32gb: should 
arrive on Tuesday and I will have a tremendous amount
of learning to do.  The first thing that I will do is to install a navitgation 
ap.
I live on the outskirts of Gore which can be found in Eastern Southland New 
Zealand and have a 
small, a very small farm , but the paddocks are large enough for me to get, 
enfuriatingly,
lost in.  I want a simple navigational aid that will tell me where the nearest 
landmarked object is, 
say a particular gate/building/fenceline.
Reading  the recommended navigation aps on applevis, I have dismissed Blind 
Square, but Ariadne 
looks promising.  There may be others that would do the trick too, but does 
anyone use ariadne and 
what do you think of it?
Even though I have been messing around with technical gizmos since 1994, I 
still rate myself as
being among those who get a glazed look in my eyes when faced with a lot of 
technicalities., so if I 
get bamboozled by tech talk, please find it your collective hearts to bear with 
me.

 Jewel, 

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RE: Navigation Aps

2015-04-26 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Hi,

Some people on this list like the free My Way Lite.


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Jewel
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 10:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Navigation Aps

Hi Good Folk!  This is my first post to this list.  My * first I phone:  a 
Iphone GS32gb: should 
arrive on Tuesday and I will have a tremendous amount
of learning to do.  The first thing that I will do is to install a navitgation 
ap.
I live on the outskirts of Gore which can be found in Eastern Southland New 
Zealand and have a 
small, a very small farm , but the paddocks are large enough for me to get, 
enfuriatingly,
lost in.  I want a simple navigational aid that will tell me where the nearest 
landmarked object is, 
say a particular gate/building/fenceline.
Reading  the recommended navigation aps on applevis, I have dismissed Blind 
Square, but Ariadne 
looks promising.  There may be others that would do the trick too, but does 
anyone use ariadne and 
what do you think of it?
Even though I have been messing around with technical gizmos since 1994, I 
still rate myself as
being among those who get a glazed look in my eyes when faced with a lot of 
technicalities., so if I 
get bamboozled by tech talk, please find it your collective hearts to bear with 
me.

 Jewel, 

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RE: Navigation Aps

2015-04-26 Thread Larry Lumpkin
Jewel, I'd be curious why you dismiss blindsquare out of hand.  I believe it 
will do exactly what you wish.  I use blindsquare daily to locate objects that 
are out in space and would be hard to find otherwise.  If it's the price, I 
don't think that is a sufficient reason.  The developer has been very 
responsive to our needs and I don't mind at all supporting him.  I would much 
rather pay the $30  us. For his app than a $69 yearly subscription to sender.


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Jewel
Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 10:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Navigation Aps

Hi Good Folk!  This is my first post to this list.  My * first I phone:  a 
Iphone GS32gb: should arrive on Tuesday and I will have a tremendous amount of 
learning to do.  The first thing that I will do is to install a navitgation ap.
I live on the outskirts of Gore which can be found in Eastern Southland New 
Zealand and have a small, a very small farm , but the paddocks are large enough 
for me to get, enfuriatingly, lost in.  I want a simple navigational aid that 
will tell me where the nearest landmarked object is, say a particular 
gate/building/fenceline.
Reading  the recommended navigation aps on applevis, I have dismissed Blind 
Square, but Ariadne looks promising.  There may be others that would do the 
trick too, but does anyone use ariadne and what do you think of it?
Even though I have been messing around with technical gizmos since 1994, I 
still rate myself as being among those who get a glazed look in my eyes when 
faced with a lot of technicalities., so if I get bamboozled by tech talk, 
please find it your collective hearts to bear with me.

 Jewel, 

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Re: Navigation Aps

2015-04-26 Thread Andy Baracco
Considering the use case that was set forth, BS may be overkill, and Ariadne 
would do what the poster asks. The poster has no need for road maps or 
points of interest, except to set his own, which Ariadne does.


Andy


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From: Larry Lumpkin

Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 8:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Navigation Aps

Jewel, I'd be curious why you dismiss blindsquare out of hand.  I believe it 
will do exactly what you wish.  I use blindsquare daily to locate objects 
that are out in space and would be hard to find otherwise.  If it's the 
price, I don't think that is a sufficient reason.  The developer has been 
very responsive to our needs and I don't mind at all supporting him.  I 
would much rather pay the $30  us. For his app than a $69 yearly 
subscription to sender.



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Jewel

Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 10:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Navigation Aps

Hi Good Folk!  This is my first post to this list.  My * first I phone:  a 
Iphone GS32gb: should arrive on Tuesday and I will have a tremendous amount 
of learning to do.  The first thing that I will do is to install a 
navitgation ap.
I live on the outskirts of Gore which can be found in Eastern Southland New 
Zealand and have a small, a very small farm , but the paddocks are large 
enough for me to get, enfuriatingly, lost in.  I want a simple navigational 
aid that will tell me where the nearest landmarked object is, say a 
particular gate/building/fenceline.
Reading  the recommended navigation aps on applevis, I have dismissed Blind 
Square, but Ariadne looks promising.  There may be others that would do the 
trick too, but does anyone use ariadne and what do you think of it?
Even though I have been messing around with technical gizmos since 1994, I 
still rate myself as being among those who get a glazed look in my eyes when 
faced with a lot of technicalities., so if I get bamboozled by tech talk, 
please find it your collective hearts to bear with me.


Jewel,

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RE: Restoring aps from Itunes to my new iphone

2014-12-07 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Denise,

 

Is your new phone already set up? Normally if you receive a new phone you will 
be asked at the end of the setup process if you want to set up as a new phone 
or restore from a backup. If your phone is connected to iTunes, you can then 
select the backup and it will be restored. If your phone is already set up, 
just connect to iTunes, then go to the File menu, find “Devices” and from there 
select “Restore”.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
denise colley
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 10:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Restoring aps from Itunes to my new iphone

 

I did an encrypted backup of my iphone to itunes, but now I want to restore it 
on to my new phone?  Also, I don’t seem to be able to get my new phone to 
restore my backup in the cloud.  

 

Any help with either of these issues would begreatly appreciated.  Someone’s 
always done this for me before so am not real sure of the steps.

 

Denise

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Re: Restoring aps from Itunes to my new iphone

2014-12-07 Thread Gmail
In some cases, you need to restore from the iTunes backup twice in order to get 
your apps to sync to your new phone. There's a section in iTunes that you can 
see when you're looking at your iPhone. It's called the LCD area, and it will 
tell you what's going on with your iPhone when it's being synced, backed up, 
restored, etc. through iTunes.


Thanks,
Ari


 On Dec 7, 2014, at 4:39 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Denise,
  
 Is your new phone already set up? Normally if you receive a new phone you 
 will be asked at the end of the setup process if you want to set up as a new 
 phone or restore from a backup. If your phone is connected to iTunes, you can 
 then select the backup and it will be restored. If your phone is already set 
 up, just connect to iTunes, then go to the File menu, find “Devices” and from 
 there select “Restore”.
  
  
 Regards,
 Sieghard
  
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 denise colley
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 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Restoring aps from Itunes to my new iphone
  
 I did an encrypted backup of my iphone to itunes, but now I want to restore 
 it on to my new phone?  Also, I don’t seem to be able to get my new phone to 
 restore my backup in the cloud. 
  
 Any help with either of these issues would begreatly appreciated.  Someone’s 
 always done this for me before so am not real sure of the steps.
  
 Denise
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Restoring aps from Itunes to my new iphone

2014-12-06 Thread denise colley
I did an encrypted backup of my iphone to itunes, but now I want to restore
it on to my new phone?  Also, I don't seem to be able to get my new phone to
restore my backup in the cloud.  

 

Any help with either of these issues would begreatly appreciated.  Someone's
always done this for me before so am not real sure of the steps.

 

Denise

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Questions regarding Aps and IPhone 5S

2014-06-02 Thread Eve

Hi All,

As I stated in an earlier message last week, I intend to purchase an IPhone 
5S in the near future.
I have Verizon as my carrier  plan to have 2 GB data.  I've heard on this 
list that lots of aps use the internet.  Would it be better to purchase more 
GB, or just don't use the ones that require the internet connection?  I only 
want to text once in a while, and be able to identify objects and colors 
with the iPhone.  Also, I would like to use the ap that can read a printed 
page after taking a picture of it with the camera.  Would someone please 
explain all this stuff to me?  Thanks!


Eve

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Re: Questions regarding Aps and IPhone 5S

2014-06-02 Thread Alex Hall
First, if you can stand the wait, the iPhone6 will be out later this year. You 
could get that, or get the 5S when it drops in price.

As to internet, if you are the only one on the phone plan, 2gb is more than 
enough. Yes, apps use data, but most let you disable internet access while not 
on wifi. Besides, the majority will only be pulling small amounts of text, so 
letting them do what they want won't eat into your data plan. The big data 
users are audio and video apps - Podcasts, Music, Youtube, Skype, FaceTime, and 
the like.

OCR apps are not great, but they get the job done in most cases. Check out 
Prizmo, Pocket Reader, and Text Detective for starters.

Object identifier apps: Money Reader, that free money identifying app whose 
name I'm forgetting, TapTapSee, Camfind, Red Laser, and Digit-Eyes are the best 
ones.

I strongly recommend you have a look around www.applevis.com to get more app 
recommendations and reviews.
On May 31, 2014, at 3:14 PM, Eve squirre...@verizon.net wrote:

 Hi All,
 
 As I stated in an earlier message last week, I intend to purchase an IPhone 
 5S in the near future.
 I have Verizon as my carrier  plan to have 2 GB data.  I've heard on this 
 list that lots of aps use the internet.  Would it be better to purchase more 
 GB, or just don't use the ones that require the internet connection?  I only 
 want to text once in a while, and be able to identify objects and colors with 
 the iPhone.  Also, I would like to use the ap that can read a printed page 
 after taking a picture of it with the camera.  Would someone please explain 
 all this stuff to me?  Thanks!
 
 Eve
 
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Re: Questions regarding Aps and IPhone 5S

2014-06-02 Thread Steve

Eve,

2GB should be fine for those needs.  The only thing that will involve a bit 
of data is sending pics of items to Tap-Tap-See to be recognized.  General 
internet browsing, emails, sending texts, don't use much data unless you 
watch a lot of video or plan to listen to a great deal of music streaming.


In any event, you can have VZW set up to send you an alert when you consume 
half or three-quarters of your data allotment for that billing cycle. 
Secondly, you can turn off certain apps which consume data from the cellular 
data in your iPhone settings.


Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

Steve
Lansing, MI


- Original Message - 
From: Eve squirre...@verizon.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 3:14 PM
Subject: Questions regarding Aps and IPhone 5S


Hi All,

As I stated in an earlier message last week, I intend to purchase an IPhone
5S in the near future.
I have Verizon as my carrier  plan to have 2 GB data.  I've heard on this
list that lots of aps use the internet.  Would it be better to purchase more
GB, or just don't use the ones that require the internet connection?  I only
want to text once in a while, and be able to identify objects and colors
with the iPhone.  Also, I would like to use the ap that can read a printed
page after taking a picture of it with the camera.  Would someone please
explain all this stuff to me?  Thanks!

Eve

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Re: Questions regarding Aps and IPhone 5S

2014-06-02 Thread Fred Olver
If you purchase Getting Started with the iPhone and I O S 7.0 many of these 
questions will be answered. it is available in several accessible formats at 
nbp.org


Fred Olver
- Original Message - 
From: Eve squirre...@verizon.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 2:14 PM
Subject: Questions regarding Aps and IPhone 5S


Hi All,

As I stated in an earlier message last week, I intend to purchase an IPhone
5S in the near future.
I have Verizon as my carrier  plan to have 2 GB data.  I've heard on this
list that lots of aps use the internet.  Would it be better to purchase more
GB, or just don't use the ones that require the internet connection?  I only
want to text once in a while, and be able to identify objects and colors
with the iPhone.  Also, I would like to use the ap that can read a printed
page after taking a picture of it with the camera.  Would someone please
explain all this stuff to me?  Thanks!

Eve

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Re: Questions regarding Aps and IPhone 5S

2014-06-02 Thread Christopher J Chaltain
I agree, it doesn't sound like you'd need more than 2G of data. The 
other question is how often you'll be able to use wifi. If you'll 
consistently have access to wifi, such as you have it at home, then you 
can safely update IOS and your apps over the air without having to worry 
about your cellular data. Even if you don't have wifi, but you'll be 
hooking your phone up to your PC or Mac occasionally, then you can 
update the phone and apps that way, and again wouldn't have to worry 
about those using up your 2G.


On 6/2/2014 2:26 PM, Steve wrote:

Eve,

2GB should be fine for those needs.  The only thing that will involve 
a bit of data is sending pics of items to Tap-Tap-See to be 
recognized.  General internet browsing, emails, sending texts, don't 
use much data unless you watch a lot of video or plan to listen to a 
great deal of music streaming.


In any event, you can have VZW set up to send you an alert when you 
consume half or three-quarters of your data allotment for that billing 
cycle. Secondly, you can turn off certain apps which consume data from 
the cellular data in your iPhone settings.


Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.

Steve
Lansing, MI


- Original Message - From: Eve squirre...@verizon.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2014 3:14 PM
Subject: Questions regarding Aps and IPhone 5S


Hi All,

As I stated in an earlier message last week, I intend to purchase an 
IPhone

5S in the near future.
I have Verizon as my carrier  plan to have 2 GB data.  I've heard on 
this
list that lots of aps use the internet.  Would it be better to 
purchase more
GB, or just don't use the ones that require the internet connection?  
I only

want to text once in a while, and be able to identify objects and colors
with the iPhone.  Also, I would like to use the ap that can read a 
printed

page after taking a picture of it with the camera.  Would someone please
explain all this stuff to me?  Thanks!

Eve



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Keeping Aps and Other Things From Re-apearing

2014-03-15 Thread clarence carter
I recently restored my phone from I-Tunes.  When It was done I 
discovered that music that I had deleted from the phone had re-appeared.


Did I miss a step?

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needing help with news aps

2014-03-09 Thread Dana
I have downloaded and installed breaking and also have gotten ap news and 
cnn and turned on all push notifications I do not get hardly anything from 
any of the news sources  I wondered if any of you have suggestions on how I 
can get more push notifications sent?


I have an iphone 5S
Thanks
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Re: what are the best and most accessible weather and breaking news aps and also some aps that are must haves for a new user

2014-02-28 Thread Russ Kiehne

And lets not firget downcastd for podcasts.

-Original Message- 
From: Alan Paganelli

Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 9:59 AM
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aps and also some aps that are must haves for a new user



The only one I would add to that would be the Bard app for listening to NLS 
Talking Books.  Price, free.



Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:10 PM, dan thompson dthomps...@mchsi.com wrote:




Hi Dana,

Here are some I use.  I will put a cost by those I remember.

Mony reader $5.00

Price check

iBird Pro I thinkit is around $5.00

the pillbook

voicebrief

Phone Tracker Free (also called PT Free) It is for tracking where a person 
is such a child.  You can enter in a person’s cell phone number and the 
streat and town where they are located is displayed.


Dice world

I Blink Radio

Police radio


VIA is the braille institute but also gives lists of accessible apps for 
visually impaired.


TED is an app that makes available many conferences about a very range of 
topics.


VoiceDream is used for reading pdf files/books on the IPhone

Work sampler will tell you meanings of words used in the work place for ost 
any job.  Very useful in schools or preparing to learning about an  career.


Bible gateway

Daily grace

EXP Church

In Touch Ministery

Access World

ABC News

NFB NewsLine





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Of Dana

Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 10:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: what are the best and most accessible weather and breaking news aps 
and also some aps that are must haves for a new user








Thanks for  responses. I m a new user.



Looking for must have aps for blind foks smile as well as great weather and 
breaking news aps.








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djkitty73



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Re: what are the best and most accessible weather and breaking news aps and also some aps that are must haves for a new user

2014-02-27 Thread Andrew J. LaPointe
Hi Does the in touch ministries work well with the iphone and easy to use?  I 
Love Dr. Stanley’s work.  Andy and Shubert

From: dan thompson 
Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: what are the best and most accessible weather and breaking news 
aps and also some aps that are must haves for a new user

Hi Dana,

Here are some I use.  I will put a cost by those I remember.

Mony reader $5.00

Price check

iBird Pro I thinkit is around $5.00

the pillbook

voicebrief

Phone Tracker Free (also called PT Free) It is for tracking where a person is 
such a child.  You can enter in a person’s cell phone number and the streat and 
town where they are located is displayed.

Dice world

I Blink Radio

Police radio


VIA is the braille institute but also gives lists of accessible apps for 
visually impaired.

TED is an app that makes available many conferences about a very range of 
topics.

VoiceDream is used for reading pdf files/books on the IPhone

Work sampler will tell you meanings of words used in the work place for ost any 
job.  Very useful in schools or preparing to learning about an  career.

Bible gateway

Daily grace

EXP Church

In Touch Ministery

Access World

ABC News

NFB NewsLine

 

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2014-02-27 Thread Dana
thanks so much for some of these lists of aps I appreciate it.
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RE: what are the best and most accessible weather and breaking news aps and also some aps that are must haves for a new user

2014-02-27 Thread Jim Ruby
Here are some of the apps I am using. 

tCconference - by Talking communities I use this for accessibleworld.org the 
tek talk show Mondays 7 pm central as well as talking in other conference rooms.

Bard mobile - read nls books

Facebook - if you are on facebook.

Nfb newsline - read newspapers and tv guide

Allaccess - read restraunt menus

Blindsquare - help with traveling

Find friends - to locate and keep track of family and friends

Google - perform voice commands nice compliment to Siri
Google maps - apple map alternitive
Inote - money identifier

Camfind photo search

Anylist keep track of my grocery lists and in sync with all my family.

Parcel - keep track of packing during shipping up to three at a time in free 
version.

Abc news - listen to news

These were described in previous post:
Via, Accessworld and Iblink radio


Nature sound - nice sounds for relaxing
Sleepbug - more sounds to relax or help sleep

games
One foundation
Cribbage pro
Spellstack
Stemstumper
Dice world
Worder

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Re: what are the best and most accessible weather and breaking news aps and also some aps that are must haves for a new user

2014-02-26 Thread Shawn Krasniuk
Hi Dana. For weather, I like the Imap Weather Radio because it keeps you 
informed of severe weather.

Shawn
Sent From My White MacBook

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what are the best and most accessible weather and breaking news aps and also some aps that are must haves for a new user

2014-02-25 Thread Dana
Thanks for  responses. I m a new user.
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Problems buying aps

2014-02-14 Thread Carol anne et al
Does anyone know why this would happen? I just bought tv pro. its free. When I 
entered my password, it said unable to purchase at this time please try later. 
its been going on for a number of days now with different aps. they do get 
purchased though as I purchased ear monsters and anothe rpayed ap and I was 
charged, but they didnt download until I was on wifi. I went to ap settings and 
turned on celular data and aps in there. anyone else experience this? I never 
used to have this problem. I am using the 4s and ios 7

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Re: Problems buying aps

2014-02-14 Thread Lori Dent
Hi Carol,

No, I have never had this problem that you are talking about. Take care.

Lori and theGipper

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Folders and aps

2014-01-18 Thread Carol anne et al
I put some aps in folders without much trouble. However some are proving a 
challenge, especially they they move to different pages so easily. So for 
instance say an ap is on page four, and my folder is on page 3, the ap 
sometimes moves to page two or one and then I have to restart the process of 
trying to havigate to the folder where I want the ap to go again. Should I just 
give in and get sighted help for this? I just want to be organised and all as I 
am a bit obsessive like that lol

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renaming aps

2013-10-31 Thread Billy Maynard

hi,

I have another question.  I have 2 aps on my phone named breaking.  one is 
from nbc and one was from another developer that was recomended onthis 
list.  my question  is. Is there a way to rename aps on our  divice or maybe 
move them around if I can't rename them  so that they're not right next to 
each other?


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Re: renaming aps

2013-10-31 Thread Christopher Chaltain
You can't rename the app, but you can have VO give it a different label. 
After finding the app you want to relabel, do a two finger double tap 
and hold.


To move a folder or app, do a single finger double tap and hold and 
after hearing the tone, drag the app where you want.


On 10/31/2013 08:06 PM, Billy Maynard wrote:

hi,

I have another question.  I have 2 aps on my phone named breaking.  
one is from nbc and one was from another developer that was recomended 
onthis list.  my question  is. Is there a way to rename aps on our  
divice or maybe move them around if I can't rename them  so that 
they're not right next to each other?


Thanks again,
Billy Maynard



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tv aps

2013-09-25 Thread janet wright
which good tv aps do you all use to get tv listings?
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Re: tv aps

2013-09-25 Thread Shane Clark
Hi,
TV Guide Mobile is a great app to use. Its very accessible with VO.

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Re: tv aps

2013-09-25 Thread Alan Paganelli
The TV Guide is accessible and also free.
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Re: tv aps

2013-09-25 Thread Andy Baracco
There’s TV Guide Mobile, or you can get them through the NFB Newsline app.

Andy

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Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps

2013-09-18 Thread Alan Paganelli
I have a question about list recorder.  It sounds really good but you didn't 
mention in what format or formats the recordings are made.
Do you get to choose or are you stuck with some weird format that only the 
app can decode?  Thanks in advance for any further information you can 
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Subject: Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps


Hi Julie,

I would put in another recommendation for you to consider List Recorder.  It 
is designed completely with the Voice Over user in mind so it has ways of 
controlling recording and play back in several ways including motions and 
gestures so you don't need to listen for buttons to stop a recording for 
example.  Also, it is very powerful with regard to easy organization of 
recordings.  It is a app with a lot of capabilities and most of us are not 
using it to it's full potential.  I have Voxie Pro but other then making a 
quick recording I don't find it useful.  I instead use list Recorder to 
store all kinds of recorded information all organized neatly into list and 
sub lists.  So weather I'm looking for my shopping list, the audio 
description of my complicated stereo, or a recipe . I can easily find things 
or add the next recording to a list.


You also have many ways to move recordings off the phone and can also back 
up all the recordings to your computer.


Eric Caron

On Sep 16, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Julie Acton julie_ac...@bigpond.com wrote:


Thanks Raul, this is really helpful.  Yes, while it makes intuitive sense
that developers would want to prevent VO chatter from contaminating a
recording (and as a user, it is damn beneficial to the end product), it 
also
makes for a very anxious and mysterious user experience, particularly for 
a

relative clutz like me who isn't very intuitive about where the important
buttons like stop might be hiding in the silence.

Voxie sounds like it's found some clever ways of dealing with this though,
so I'll give it a go.  I see it costs $6, so I hope it's a good 
investment!


Still open for competition though...

And while on the subject, how have people found iphone's inbuilt voice 
memos

as a recorder?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Monday, 16 September 2013 10:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps

Hi, the reason VO goes seemingly silent is because it helps prevent from 
it
speaking on your recordings. The trouble is that if you don't know where 
on
the screen the stop button is, that can be a bit disconcerting and leave 
you

out at sea with no paddles. Or so it feels that way. So, here is what I
recommend. Voxie Pro by Bottle Rocket. This also makes VO go totally 
quiet,

but if you record in express mode, you can shake phone to start and shake
once again to stop. Plus a tone is played when it starts and stops
recording. Plus, if the shaking isn't working, or you don't want to do 
that,

there is only one button in the middle of the screen, so if VO is silent
because it's recording, just touch the middle of the screen once, then
double tap like a normal button and the recording will stop. Voxie has the
ability to record in 16Khz, 22Khz and 44Khz to make the quality from 
lowest

to highest. You can save the recordings to your computer via iTunes file
sharing or via the built-in web browser and get them from your pc browser
that way. There are a ton of recording apps, but this one is the first one
which comes to mind, and is my favorite. It doesn't have dropbox like some
others do, but i still use this one over most on my iPhone 4s. It should
work on the 5 just as good.

--
Raul A. Gallegos
It's all about perspective. The sinking of the Titanic was a miracle to 
the

lobsters in the ship's kitchen. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user
ID: rau47

On 9/15/2013 8:12 PM, Julie Acton wrote:

Hi all.

Just wondering if anyone can recommend me a good, VO-accessible, voice
recorder ap for Iphone 5?  I have experimented with several, with
results ranging from average (basic workability) to totally unusable
and/or totally silent, with VO going into apparent paralysis and
causing me to do likewise.  I am after something with as clear as
possible recording quality, to be used for recording meetings etc, and
which allows for easy transfer of the digital files

Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps

2013-09-18 Thread Joseph FreeTech
regarding List Recorder recording formats:
.WAV and CAF formats with 4 quality choices and optional stereo recording

Joseph
- Original Message - 
From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps


I have a question about list recorder.  It sounds really good but you didn't
mention in what format or formats the recordings are made.
 Do you get to choose or are you stuck with some weird format that only the
app can decode?  Thanks in advance for any further information you can
provide.---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

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Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

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http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 
From: Eric Caron ecar...@comcast.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps


Hi Julie,

I would put in another recommendation for you to consider List Recorder.  It
is designed completely with the Voice Over user in mind so it has ways of
controlling recording and play back in several ways including motions and
gestures so you don't need to listen for buttons to stop a recording for
example.  Also, it is very powerful with regard to easy organization of
recordings.  It is a app with a lot of capabilities and most of us are not
using it to it's full potential.  I have Voxie Pro but other then making a
quick recording I don't find it useful.  I instead use list Recorder to
store all kinds of recorded information all organized neatly into list and
sub lists.  So weather I'm looking for my shopping list, the audio
description of my complicated stereo, or a recipe . I can easily find things
or add the next recording to a list.

You also have many ways to move recordings off the phone and can also back
up all the recordings to your computer.

Eric Caron

On Sep 16, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Julie Acton julie_ac...@bigpond.com wrote:

 Thanks Raul, this is really helpful.  Yes, while it makes intuitive sense
 that developers would want to prevent VO chatter from contaminating a
 recording (and as a user, it is damn beneficial to the end product), it
 also
 makes for a very anxious and mysterious user experience, particularly for
 a
 relative clutz like me who isn't very intuitive about where the important
 buttons like stop might be hiding in the silence.

 Voxie sounds like it's found some clever ways of dealing with this though,
 so I'll give it a go.  I see it costs $6, so I hope it's a good
 investment!

 Still open for competition though...

 And while on the subject, how have people found iphone's inbuilt voice
 memos
 as a recorder?

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Raul A. Gallegos
 Sent: Monday, 16 September 2013 10:55 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps

 Hi, the reason VO goes seemingly silent is because it helps prevent from
 it
 speaking on your recordings. The trouble is that if you don't know where
 on
 the screen the stop button is, that can be a bit disconcerting and leave
 you
 out at sea with no paddles. Or so it feels that way. So, here is what I
 recommend. Voxie Pro by Bottle Rocket. This also makes VO go totally
 quiet,
 but if you record in express mode, you can shake phone to start and shake
 once again to stop. Plus a tone is played when it starts and stops
 recording. Plus, if the shaking isn't working, or you don't want to do
 that,
 there is only one button in the middle of the screen, so if VO is silent
 because it's recording, just touch the middle of the screen once, then
 double tap like a normal button and the recording will stop. Voxie has the
 ability to record in 16Khz, 22Khz and 44Khz to make the quality from
 lowest
 to highest. You can save the recordings to your computer via iTunes file
 sharing or via the built-in web browser and get them from your pc browser
 that way. There are a ton of recording apps, but this one is the first one
 which comes to mind, and is my favorite. It doesn't have dropbox like some
 others do, but i still use this one over most on my iPhone 4s. It should
 work on the 5 just as good.

 --
 Raul A. Gallegos
 It's all about perspective. The sinking of the Titanic was a miracle to
 the
 lobsters in the ship's kitchen. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user
 ID: rau47

 On 9/15/2013 8:12 PM, Julie Acton wrote:
 Hi all.

 Just wondering if anyone can recommend me a good, VO-accessible, voice
 recorder ap for Iphone 5?  I have experimented

RE: Accessible digital voice recorder aps

2013-09-17 Thread Julie Acton
Thanks Raul, this is really helpful.  Yes, while it makes intuitive sense
that developers would want to prevent VO chatter from contaminating a
recording (and as a user, it is damn beneficial to the end product), it also
makes for a very anxious and mysterious user experience, particularly for a
relative clutz like me who isn't very intuitive about where the important
buttons like stop might be hiding in the silence.

Voxie sounds like it's found some clever ways of dealing with this though,
so I'll give it a go.  I see it costs $6, so I hope it's a good investment!

Still open for competition though...

And while on the subject, how have people found iphone's inbuilt voice memos
as a recorder?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Monday, 16 September 2013 10:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps

Hi, the reason VO goes seemingly silent is because it helps prevent from it
speaking on your recordings. The trouble is that if you don't know where on
the screen the stop button is, that can be a bit disconcerting and leave you
out at sea with no paddles. Or so it feels that way. So, here is what I
recommend. Voxie Pro by Bottle Rocket. This also makes VO go totally quiet,
but if you record in express mode, you can shake phone to start and shake
once again to stop. Plus a tone is played when it starts and stops
recording. Plus, if the shaking isn't working, or you don't want to do that,
there is only one button in the middle of the screen, so if VO is silent
because it's recording, just touch the middle of the screen once, then
double tap like a normal button and the recording will stop. Voxie has the
ability to record in 16Khz, 22Khz and 44Khz to make the quality from lowest
to highest. You can save the recordings to your computer via iTunes file
sharing or via the built-in web browser and get them from your pc browser
that way. There are a ton of recording apps, but this one is the first one
which comes to mind, and is my favorite. It doesn't have dropbox like some
others do, but i still use this one over most on my iPhone 4s. It should
work on the 5 just as good.

--
Raul A. Gallegos
It's all about perspective. The sinking of the Titanic was a miracle to the
lobsters in the ship's kitchen. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user
ID: rau47

On 9/15/2013 8:12 PM, Julie Acton wrote:
 Hi all.

 Just wondering if anyone can recommend me a good, VO-accessible, voice 
 recorder ap for Iphone 5?  I have experimented with several, with 
 results ranging from average (basic workability) to totally unusable 
 and/or totally silent, with VO going into apparent paralysis and 
 causing me to do likewise.  I am after something with as clear as 
 possible recording quality, to be used for recording meetings etc, and 
 which allows for easy transfer of the digital files onto my PC.  Any 
 experiences would be appreciated.

 Regards,

 Julie

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Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps

2013-09-17 Thread Arianna
The built-in Voice Memos app isn't bad, but I don't like that I have to sync it 
with iTunes to get my longer memos off the phone. Also, I had some problems 
with it duplicating memos. After a while, I got totally fed up with the whole 
issue and purchased Dropvox. It's a great little app! I do wish they would 
implement a upload only over wifi feature. It's supposedly in the pipeline for 
a future update, but who knows when that's coming out? They're also supposed to 
be adding quality settings, too, which I will appreciate. Other than those few 
things, I really like the app.

On Sep 16, 2013, at 9:13 AM, Julie Acton julie_ac...@bigpond.com wrote:

 Thanks Raul, this is really helpful.  Yes, while it makes intuitive sense
 that developers would want to prevent VO chatter from contaminating a
 recording (and as a user, it is damn beneficial to the end product), it also
 makes for a very anxious and mysterious user experience, particularly for a
 relative clutz like me who isn't very intuitive about where the important
 buttons like stop might be hiding in the silence.
 
 Voxie sounds like it's found some clever ways of dealing with this though,
 so I'll give it a go.  I see it costs $6, so I hope it's a good investment!
 
 Still open for competition though...
 
 And while on the subject, how have people found iphone's inbuilt voice memos
 as a recorder?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Raul A. Gallegos
 Sent: Monday, 16 September 2013 10:55 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps
 
 Hi, the reason VO goes seemingly silent is because it helps prevent from it
 speaking on your recordings. The trouble is that if you don't know where on
 the screen the stop button is, that can be a bit disconcerting and leave you
 out at sea with no paddles. Or so it feels that way. So, here is what I
 recommend. Voxie Pro by Bottle Rocket. This also makes VO go totally quiet,
 but if you record in express mode, you can shake phone to start and shake
 once again to stop. Plus a tone is played when it starts and stops
 recording. Plus, if the shaking isn't working, or you don't want to do that,
 there is only one button in the middle of the screen, so if VO is silent
 because it's recording, just touch the middle of the screen once, then
 double tap like a normal button and the recording will stop. Voxie has the
 ability to record in 16Khz, 22Khz and 44Khz to make the quality from lowest
 to highest. You can save the recordings to your computer via iTunes file
 sharing or via the built-in web browser and get them from your pc browser
 that way. There are a ton of recording apps, but this one is the first one
 which comes to mind, and is my favorite. It doesn't have dropbox like some
 others do, but i still use this one over most on my iPhone 4s. It should
 work on the 5 just as good.
 
 --
 Raul A. Gallegos
 It's all about perspective. The sinking of the Titanic was a miracle to the
 lobsters in the ship's kitchen. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user
 ID: rau47
 
 On 9/15/2013 8:12 PM, Julie Acton wrote:
 Hi all.
 
 Just wondering if anyone can recommend me a good, VO-accessible, voice 
 recorder ap for Iphone 5?  I have experimented with several, with 
 results ranging from average (basic workability) to totally unusable 
 and/or totally silent, with VO going into apparent paralysis and 
 causing me to do likewise.  I am after something with as clear as 
 possible recording quality, to be used for recording meetings etc, and 
 which allows for easy transfer of the digital files onto my PC.  Any 
 experiences would be appreciated.
 
 Regards,
 
 Julie
 
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Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps

2013-09-17 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Julie,

I would put in another recommendation for you to consider List 
Recorder.  It is designed completely with the Voice Over user in mind so it has 
ways of controlling recording and play back in several ways including motions 
and gestures so you don't need to listen for buttons to stop a recording for 
example.  Also, it is very powerful with regard to easy organization of 
recordings.  It is a app with a lot of capabilities and most of us are not 
using it to it's full potential.  I have Voxie Pro but other then making a 
quick recording I don't find it useful.  I instead use list Recorder to store 
all kinds of recorded information all organized neatly into list and sub lists. 
 So weather I'm looking for my shopping list, the audio description of my 
complicated stereo, or a recipe . I can easily find things or add the next 
recording to a list.

You also have many ways to move recordings off the phone and can also back up 
all the recordings to your computer.

Eric Caron 

On Sep 16, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Julie Acton julie_ac...@bigpond.com wrote:

 Thanks Raul, this is really helpful.  Yes, while it makes intuitive sense
 that developers would want to prevent VO chatter from contaminating a
 recording (and as a user, it is damn beneficial to the end product), it also
 makes for a very anxious and mysterious user experience, particularly for a
 relative clutz like me who isn't very intuitive about where the important
 buttons like stop might be hiding in the silence.
 
 Voxie sounds like it's found some clever ways of dealing with this though,
 so I'll give it a go.  I see it costs $6, so I hope it's a good investment!
 
 Still open for competition though...
 
 And while on the subject, how have people found iphone's inbuilt voice memos
 as a recorder?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Raul A. Gallegos
 Sent: Monday, 16 September 2013 10:55 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps
 
 Hi, the reason VO goes seemingly silent is because it helps prevent from it
 speaking on your recordings. The trouble is that if you don't know where on
 the screen the stop button is, that can be a bit disconcerting and leave you
 out at sea with no paddles. Or so it feels that way. So, here is what I
 recommend. Voxie Pro by Bottle Rocket. This also makes VO go totally quiet,
 but if you record in express mode, you can shake phone to start and shake
 once again to stop. Plus a tone is played when it starts and stops
 recording. Plus, if the shaking isn't working, or you don't want to do that,
 there is only one button in the middle of the screen, so if VO is silent
 because it's recording, just touch the middle of the screen once, then
 double tap like a normal button and the recording will stop. Voxie has the
 ability to record in 16Khz, 22Khz and 44Khz to make the quality from lowest
 to highest. You can save the recordings to your computer via iTunes file
 sharing or via the built-in web browser and get them from your pc browser
 that way. There are a ton of recording apps, but this one is the first one
 which comes to mind, and is my favorite. It doesn't have dropbox like some
 others do, but i still use this one over most on my iPhone 4s. It should
 work on the 5 just as good.
 
 --
 Raul A. Gallegos
 It's all about perspective. The sinking of the Titanic was a miracle to the
 lobsters in the ship's kitchen. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user
 ID: rau47
 
 On 9/15/2013 8:12 PM, Julie Acton wrote:
 Hi all.
 
 Just wondering if anyone can recommend me a good, VO-accessible, voice 
 recorder ap for Iphone 5?  I have experimented with several, with 
 results ranging from average (basic workability) to totally unusable 
 and/or totally silent, with VO going into apparent paralysis and 
 causing me to do likewise.  I am after something with as clear as 
 possible recording quality, to be used for recording meetings etc, and 
 which allows for easy transfer of the digital files onto my PC.  Any 
 experiences would be appreciated.
 
 Regards,
 
 Julie
 
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RE: Accessible digital voice recorder aps

2013-09-17 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Do ListRecorder files backup with  an iTunes synch? If not, how does one  best 
backup files from ListRecorder?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Eric Caron
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 5:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps

Hi Julie,

I would put in another recommendation for you to consider List 
Recorder.  It is designed completely with the Voice Over user in mind so it has 
ways of controlling recording and play back in several ways including motions 
and gestures so you don't need to listen for buttons to stop a recording for 
example.  Also, it is very powerful with regard to easy organization of 
recordings.  It is a app with a lot of capabilities and most of us are not 
using it to it's full potential.  I have Voxie Pro but other then making a 
quick recording I don't find it useful.  I instead use list Recorder to store 
all kinds of recorded information all organized neatly into list and sub lists. 
 So weather I'm looking for my shopping list, the audio description of my 
complicated stereo, or a recipe . I can easily find things or add the next 
recording to a list.

You also have many ways to move recordings off the phone and can also back up 
all the recordings to your computer.

Eric Caron 

On Sep 16, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Julie Acton julie_ac...@bigpond.com wrote:

 Thanks Raul, this is really helpful.  Yes, while it makes intuitive 
 sense that developers would want to prevent VO chatter from 
 contaminating a recording (and as a user, it is damn beneficial to the 
 end product), it also makes for a very anxious and mysterious user 
 experience, particularly for a relative clutz like me who isn't very 
 intuitive about where the important buttons like stop might be hiding in 
 the silence.
 
 Voxie sounds like it's found some clever ways of dealing with this 
 though, so I'll give it a go.  I see it costs $6, so I hope it's a good 
 investment!
 
 Still open for competition though...
 
 And while on the subject, how have people found iphone's inbuilt voice 
 memos as a recorder?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos
 Sent: Monday, 16 September 2013 10:55 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps
 
 Hi, the reason VO goes seemingly silent is because it helps prevent 
 from it speaking on your recordings. The trouble is that if you don't 
 know where on the screen the stop button is, that can be a bit 
 disconcerting and leave you out at sea with no paddles. Or so it feels 
 that way. So, here is what I recommend. Voxie Pro by Bottle Rocket. 
 This also makes VO go totally quiet, but if you record in express 
 mode, you can shake phone to start and shake once again to stop. Plus 
 a tone is played when it starts and stops recording. Plus, if the 
 shaking isn't working, or you don't want to do that, there is only one 
 button in the middle of the screen, so if VO is silent because it's 
 recording, just touch the middle of the screen once, then double tap 
 like a normal button and the recording will stop. Voxie has the 
 ability to record in 16Khz, 22Khz and 44Khz to make the quality from 
 lowest to highest. You can save the recordings to your computer via 
 iTunes file sharing or via the built-in web browser and get them from 
 your pc browser that way. There are a ton of recording apps, but this 
 one is the first one which comes to mind, and is my favorite. It 
 doesn't have dropbox like some others do, but i still use this one over most 
 on my iPhone 4s. It should work on the 5 just as good.
 
 --
 Raul A. Gallegos
 It's all about perspective. The sinking of the Titanic was a miracle 
 to the lobsters in the ship's kitchen. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and 
 Facebook user
 ID: rau47
 
 On 9/15/2013 8:12 PM, Julie Acton wrote:
 Hi all.
 
 Just wondering if anyone can recommend me a good, VO-accessible, 
 voice recorder ap for Iphone 5?  I have experimented with several, 
 with results ranging from average (basic workability) to totally 
 unusable and/or totally silent, with VO going into apparent paralysis 
 and causing me to do likewise.  I am after something with as clear as 
 possible recording quality, to be used for recording meetings etc, 
 and which allows for easy transfer of the digital files onto my PC.  
 Any experiences would be appreciated.
 
 Regards,
 
 Julie
 
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Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps

2013-09-17 Thread Eric Caron
To back up part or all of your List Recorder data 

Place your focus in the list you want to move to the computer.  If you want 
everything then be in the home list.
go to list commands 
go to export list 
follow the directions.
I suggest you give the list a name that starts with two dashes as this will 
make the exported list name go to the top of the list of files named in the 
iTunes file share table 
once named export the list. 
Now when you go to iTunes and go to the table showing apps that share files you 
can select List Recorder and in the next table you will see all the data.  Find 
the file you named with the dashes at the start and then use the save button to 
save this to your computer. Remember there are different recording formats in 
List Recorder if you use a PC select one that works there.  I use a Mac so I'm 
all set with the default format.
 
If anything ever happened to your phone you can now copy back the list recorder 
file and have everything back on your phone.

I back up the data now and then as I have lots of List Recorder lists with lots 
of different types of information.

I hope this helps answer your question.

For a podcast on this you can visit the sixthmode.com site and there are lots 
of podcasts.  I  think I did one on this on the Eric's podcasts page.

Eric Caron 


On Sep 17, 2013, at 7:53 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:

 Do ListRecorder files backup with  an iTunes synch? If not, how does one  
 best backup files from ListRecorder?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Eric Caron
 Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 5:35 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps
 
 Hi Julie,
 
   I would put in another recommendation for you to consider List 
 Recorder.  It is designed completely with the Voice Over user in mind so it 
 has ways of controlling recording and play back in several ways including 
 motions and gestures so you don't need to listen for buttons to stop a 
 recording for example.  Also, it is very powerful with regard to easy 
 organization of recordings.  It is a app with a lot of capabilities and most 
 of us are not using it to it's full potential.  I have Voxie Pro but other 
 then making a quick recording I don't find it useful.  I instead use list 
 Recorder to store all kinds of recorded information all organized neatly into 
 list and sub lists.  So weather I'm looking for my shopping list, the audio 
 description of my complicated stereo, or a recipe . I can easily find things 
 or add the next recording to a list.
 
 You also have many ways to move recordings off the phone and can also back up 
 all the recordings to your computer.
 
 Eric Caron 
 
 On Sep 16, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Julie Acton julie_ac...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Raul, this is really helpful.  Yes, while it makes intuitive 
 sense that developers would want to prevent VO chatter from 
 contaminating a recording (and as a user, it is damn beneficial to the 
 end product), it also makes for a very anxious and mysterious user 
 experience, particularly for a relative clutz like me who isn't very 
 intuitive about where the important buttons like stop might be hiding in 
 the silence.
 
 Voxie sounds like it's found some clever ways of dealing with this 
 though, so I'll give it a go.  I see it costs $6, so I hope it's a good 
 investment!
 
 Still open for competition though...
 
 And while on the subject, how have people found iphone's inbuilt voice 
 memos as a recorder?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos
 Sent: Monday, 16 September 2013 10:55 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps
 
 Hi, the reason VO goes seemingly silent is because it helps prevent 
 from it speaking on your recordings. The trouble is that if you don't 
 know where on the screen the stop button is, that can be a bit 
 disconcerting and leave you out at sea with no paddles. Or so it feels 
 that way. So, here is what I recommend. Voxie Pro by Bottle Rocket. 
 This also makes VO go totally quiet, but if you record in express 
 mode, you can shake phone to start and shake once again to stop. Plus 
 a tone is played when it starts and stops recording. Plus, if the 
 shaking isn't working, or you don't want to do that, there is only one 
 button in the middle of the screen, so if VO is silent because it's 
 recording, just touch the middle of the screen once, then double tap 
 like a normal button and the recording will stop. Voxie has the 
 ability to record in 16Khz, 22Khz and 44Khz to make the quality from 
 lowest to highest. You can save the recordings to your computer via 
 iTunes file sharing or via the built-in web browser and get them from 
 your pc browser that way. There are a ton of recording apps, but this 
 one

RE: Accessible digital voice recorder aps

2013-09-17 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
This is great! Thanks, Eric.

Is there a limit to how many levels of sub-folders can be made in ListRecorder? 
I don't mean, like 212 levels, of course...but can there be 4 or 5 levels of 
sub-folders?

Thanks again. Keith

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Eric Caron
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 7:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps

To back up part or all of your List Recorder data 

Place your focus in the list you want to move to the computer.  If you want 
everything then be in the home list.
go to list commands 
go to export list 
follow the directions.
I suggest you give the list a name that starts with two dashes as this will 
make the exported list name go to the top of the list of files named in the 
iTunes file share table 
once named export the list. 
Now when you go to iTunes and go to the table showing apps that share files you 
can select List Recorder and in the next table you will see all the data.  Find 
the file you named with the dashes at the start and then use the save button to 
save this to your computer. Remember there are different recording formats in 
List Recorder if you use a PC select one that works there.  I use a Mac so I'm 
all set with the default format.
 
If anything ever happened to your phone you can now copy back the list recorder 
file and have everything back on your phone.

I back up the data now and then as I have lots of List Recorder lists with lots 
of different types of information.

I hope this helps answer your question.

For a podcast on this you can visit the sixthmode.com site and there are lots 
of podcasts.  I  think I did one on this on the Eric's podcasts page.

Eric Caron 


On Sep 17, 2013, at 7:53 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:

 Do ListRecorder files backup with  an iTunes synch? If not, how does one  
 best backup files from ListRecorder?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Eric Caron
 Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 5:35 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps
 
 Hi Julie,
 
   I would put in another recommendation for you to consider List 
 Recorder.  It is designed completely with the Voice Over user in mind so it 
 has ways of controlling recording and play back in several ways including 
 motions and gestures so you don't need to listen for buttons to stop a 
 recording for example.  Also, it is very powerful with regard to easy 
 organization of recordings.  It is a app with a lot of capabilities and most 
 of us are not using it to it's full potential.  I have Voxie Pro but other 
 then making a quick recording I don't find it useful.  I instead use list 
 Recorder to store all kinds of recorded information all organized neatly into 
 list and sub lists.  So weather I'm looking for my shopping list, the audio 
 description of my complicated stereo, or a recipe . I can easily find things 
 or add the next recording to a list.
 
 You also have many ways to move recordings off the phone and can also back up 
 all the recordings to your computer.
 
 Eric Caron 
 
 On Sep 16, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Julie Acton julie_ac...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Raul, this is really helpful.  Yes, while it makes intuitive 
 sense that developers would want to prevent VO chatter from 
 contaminating a recording (and as a user, it is damn beneficial to the 
 end product), it also makes for a very anxious and mysterious user 
 experience, particularly for a relative clutz like me who isn't very 
 intuitive about where the important buttons like stop might be hiding in 
 the silence.
 
 Voxie sounds like it's found some clever ways of dealing with this 
 though, so I'll give it a go.  I see it costs $6, so I hope it's a good 
 investment!
 
 Still open for competition though...
 
 And while on the subject, how have people found iphone's inbuilt voice 
 memos as a recorder?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos
 Sent: Monday, 16 September 2013 10:55 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps
 
 Hi, the reason VO goes seemingly silent is because it helps prevent 
 from it speaking on your recordings. The trouble is that if you don't 
 know where on the screen the stop button is, that can be a bit 
 disconcerting and leave you out at sea with no paddles. Or so it feels 
 that way. So, here is what I recommend. Voxie Pro by Bottle Rocket. 
 This also makes VO go totally quiet, but if you record in express 
 mode, you can shake phone to start and shake once again to stop. Plus 
 a tone is played when it starts and stops recording. Plus, if the 
 shaking isn't working, or you don't want to do that, there is only one 
 button in the middle of the screen, so

Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps

2013-09-17 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Keith,


No, I'm not aware of a limit to the number of sub folders you can 
create in List Recorder.  I have some lists that drill down pretty far with my 
organization so I don't think you will find a limit for practical use.

Eric Caron 

On Sep 17, 2013, at 8:22 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:

 This is great! Thanks, Eric.
 
 Is there a limit to how many levels of sub-folders can be made in 
 ListRecorder? I don't mean, like 212 levels, of course...but can there be 4 
 or 5 levels of sub-folders?
 
 Thanks again. Keith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Eric Caron
 Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 7:12 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps
 
 To back up part or all of your List Recorder data 
 
 Place your focus in the list you want to move to the computer.  If you want 
 everything then be in the home list.
 go to list commands 
 go to export list 
 follow the directions.
 I suggest you give the list a name that starts with two dashes as this will 
 make the exported list name go to the top of the list of files named in the 
 iTunes file share table 
 once named export the list. 
 Now when you go to iTunes and go to the table showing apps that share files 
 you can select List Recorder and in the next table you will see all the data. 
  Find the file you named with the dashes at the start and then use the save 
 button to save this to your computer. Remember there are different recording 
 formats in List Recorder if you use a PC select one that works there.  I use 
 a Mac so I'm all set with the default format.
 
 If anything ever happened to your phone you can now copy back the list 
 recorder file and have everything back on your phone.
 
 I back up the data now and then as I have lots of List Recorder lists with 
 lots of different types of information.
 
 I hope this helps answer your question.
 
 For a podcast on this you can visit the sixthmode.com site and there are lots 
 of podcasts.  I  think I did one on this on the Eric's podcasts page.
 
 Eric Caron 
 
 
 On Sep 17, 2013, at 7:53 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
 kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:
 
 Do ListRecorder files backup with  an iTunes synch? If not, how does one  
 best backup files from ListRecorder?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Eric Caron
 Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 5:35 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps
 
 Hi Julie,
 
  I would put in another recommendation for you to consider List 
 Recorder.  It is designed completely with the Voice Over user in mind so it 
 has ways of controlling recording and play back in several ways including 
 motions and gestures so you don't need to listen for buttons to stop a 
 recording for example.  Also, it is very powerful with regard to easy 
 organization of recordings.  It is a app with a lot of capabilities and most 
 of us are not using it to it's full potential.  I have Voxie Pro but other 
 then making a quick recording I don't find it useful.  I instead use list 
 Recorder to store all kinds of recorded information all organized neatly 
 into list and sub lists.  So weather I'm looking for my shopping list, the 
 audio description of my complicated stereo, or a recipe . I can easily find 
 things or add the next recording to a list.
 
 You also have many ways to move recordings off the phone and can also back 
 up all the recordings to your computer.
 
 Eric Caron 
 
 On Sep 16, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Julie Acton julie_ac...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Raul, this is really helpful.  Yes, while it makes intuitive 
 sense that developers would want to prevent VO chatter from 
 contaminating a recording (and as a user, it is damn beneficial to the 
 end product), it also makes for a very anxious and mysterious user 
 experience, particularly for a relative clutz like me who isn't very 
 intuitive about where the important buttons like stop might be hiding in 
 the silence.
 
 Voxie sounds like it's found some clever ways of dealing with this 
 though, so I'll give it a go.  I see it costs $6, so I hope it's a good 
 investment!
 
 Still open for competition though...
 
 And while on the subject, how have people found iphone's inbuilt voice 
 memos as a recorder?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos
 Sent: Monday, 16 September 2013 10:55 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps
 
 Hi, the reason VO goes seemingly silent is because it helps prevent 
 from it speaking on your recordings. The trouble is that if you don't 
 know where on the screen the stop button is, that can be a bit 
 disconcerting and leave you out at sea with no paddles. Or so it feels

Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps

2013-09-17 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Keith,

No I don't think there is a practical limit to the number of sub 
folders you can create in List Recorder.  I have many lists that drill down 
very deep with no problems.


Eric Caron 

On Sep 17, 2013, at 8:22 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:

 This is great! Thanks, Eric.
 
 Is there a limit to how many levels of sub-folders can be made in 
 ListRecorder? I don't mean, like 212 levels, of course...but can there be 4 
 or 5 levels of sub-folders?
 
 Thanks again. Keith
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Eric Caron
 Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 7:12 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps
 
 To back up part or all of your List Recorder data 
 
 Place your focus in the list you want to move to the computer.  If you want 
 everything then be in the home list.
 go to list commands 
 go to export list 
 follow the directions.
 I suggest you give the list a name that starts with two dashes as this will 
 make the exported list name go to the top of the list of files named in the 
 iTunes file share table 
 once named export the list. 
 Now when you go to iTunes and go to the table showing apps that share files 
 you can select List Recorder and in the next table you will see all the data. 
  Find the file you named with the dashes at the start and then use the save 
 button to save this to your computer. Remember there are different recording 
 formats in List Recorder if you use a PC select one that works there.  I use 
 a Mac so I'm all set with the default format.
 
 If anything ever happened to your phone you can now copy back the list 
 recorder file and have everything back on your phone.
 
 I back up the data now and then as I have lots of List Recorder lists with 
 lots of different types of information.
 
 I hope this helps answer your question.
 
 For a podcast on this you can visit the sixthmode.com site and there are lots 
 of podcasts.  I  think I did one on this on the Eric's podcasts page.
 
 Eric Caron 
 
 
 On Sep 17, 2013, at 7:53 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. 
 kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu wrote:
 
 Do ListRecorder files backup with  an iTunes synch? If not, how does one  
 best backup files from ListRecorder?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Eric Caron
 Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 5:35 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps
 
 Hi Julie,
 
  I would put in another recommendation for you to consider List 
 Recorder.  It is designed completely with the Voice Over user in mind so it 
 has ways of controlling recording and play back in several ways including 
 motions and gestures so you don't need to listen for buttons to stop a 
 recording for example.  Also, it is very powerful with regard to easy 
 organization of recordings.  It is a app with a lot of capabilities and most 
 of us are not using it to it's full potential.  I have Voxie Pro but other 
 then making a quick recording I don't find it useful.  I instead use list 
 Recorder to store all kinds of recorded information all organized neatly 
 into list and sub lists.  So weather I'm looking for my shopping list, the 
 audio description of my complicated stereo, or a recipe . I can easily find 
 things or add the next recording to a list.
 
 You also have many ways to move recordings off the phone and can also back 
 up all the recordings to your computer.
 
 Eric Caron 
 
 On Sep 16, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Julie Acton julie_ac...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Raul, this is really helpful.  Yes, while it makes intuitive 
 sense that developers would want to prevent VO chatter from 
 contaminating a recording (and as a user, it is damn beneficial to the 
 end product), it also makes for a very anxious and mysterious user 
 experience, particularly for a relative clutz like me who isn't very 
 intuitive about where the important buttons like stop might be hiding in 
 the silence.
 
 Voxie sounds like it's found some clever ways of dealing with this 
 though, so I'll give it a go.  I see it costs $6, so I hope it's a good 
 investment!
 
 Still open for competition though...
 
 And while on the subject, how have people found iphone's inbuilt voice 
 memos as a recorder?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos
 Sent: Monday, 16 September 2013 10:55 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps
 
 Hi, the reason VO goes seemingly silent is because it helps prevent 
 from it speaking on your recordings. The trouble is that if you don't 
 know where on the screen the stop button is, that can be a bit 
 disconcerting and leave you out at sea with no paddles. Or so it feels 
 that way. So, here is what I recommend. Voxie

Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps

2013-09-17 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, one other app to consider is Dropvox. Note the V instead of the B. 
This is a recording app which saves your recordings in your Dropbox 
folder. It is a bit more Voice Over friendly, but doesn't have the 
flexibility in recording qualities as Voxie does. Speaking of Voxie? 
$6.99? When I got it a couple of years back it was $2.99. Let me check 
the link to make sure it's the right one. OK, found it for $4.99 plus 
tax of course. The link is below.


https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/voxie-pro-recorder/id294895817?mt=8

Oh, and I went ahead and checked on Dropvox, and its link follows.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/dropvox-record-voice-memos/id416288287?mt=8



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Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47

On 9/16/2013 11:13 AM, Julie Acton wrote:

Thanks Raul, this is really helpful.  Yes, while it makes intuitive sense
that developers would want to prevent VO chatter from contaminating a
recording (and as a user, it is damn beneficial to the end product), it also
makes for a very anxious and mysterious user experience, particularly for a
relative clutz like me who isn't very intuitive about where the important
buttons like stop might be hiding in the silence.

Voxie sounds like it's found some clever ways of dealing with this though,
so I'll give it a go.  I see it costs $6, so I hope it's a good investment!

Still open for competition though...

And while on the subject, how have people found iphone's inbuilt voice memos
as a recorder?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Monday, 16 September 2013 10:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps

Hi, the reason VO goes seemingly silent is because it helps prevent from it
speaking on your recordings. The trouble is that if you don't know where on
the screen the stop button is, that can be a bit disconcerting and leave you
out at sea with no paddles. Or so it feels that way. So, here is what I
recommend. Voxie Pro by Bottle Rocket. This also makes VO go totally quiet,
but if you record in express mode, you can shake phone to start and shake
once again to stop. Plus a tone is played when it starts and stops
recording. Plus, if the shaking isn't working, or you don't want to do that,
there is only one button in the middle of the screen, so if VO is silent
because it's recording, just touch the middle of the screen once, then
double tap like a normal button and the recording will stop. Voxie has the
ability to record in 16Khz, 22Khz and 44Khz to make the quality from lowest
to highest. You can save the recordings to your computer via iTunes file
sharing or via the built-in web browser and get them from your pc browser
that way. There are a ton of recording apps, but this one is the first one
which comes to mind, and is my favorite. It doesn't have dropbox like some
others do, but i still use this one over most on my iPhone 4s. It should
work on the 5 just as good.

--
Raul A. Gallegos
It's all about perspective. The sinking of the Titanic was a miracle to the
lobsters in the ship's kitchen. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user
ID: rau47

On 9/15/2013 8:12 PM, Julie Acton wrote:

Hi all.

Just wondering if anyone can recommend me a good, VO-accessible, voice
recorder ap for Iphone 5?  I have experimented with several, with
results ranging from average (basic workability) to totally unusable
and/or totally silent, with VO going into apparent paralysis and
causing me to do likewise.  I am after something with as clear as
possible recording quality, to be used for recording meetings etc, and
which allows for easy transfer of the digital files onto my PC.  Any
experiences would be appreciated.

Regards,

Julie

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2013-09-16 Thread Julie Acton
Hi all.

 

Just wondering if anyone can recommend me a good, VO-accessible, voice
recorder ap for Iphone 5?  I have experimented with several, with results
ranging from average (basic workability) to totally unusable and/or totally
silent, with VO going into apparent paralysis and causing me to do likewise.
I am after something with as clear as possible recording quality, to be used
for recording meetings etc, and which allows for easy transfer of the
digital files onto my PC.  Any experiences would be appreciated.

 

Regards,

 

Julie

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Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps

2013-09-16 Thread Joseph FreeTech
Hi Julie,

You might want to look into the very accessible List Recorder about $8:

List Recorder
By Sixth Mode Solutions
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/list-recorder/id381936335?mt=8

AppleVis has a few podcast demos.

Joseph

- Original Message - 
From: Julie Acton julie_ac...@bigpond.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 6:12 PM
Subject: Accessible digital voice recorder aps


Hi all.



Just wondering if anyone can recommend me a good, VO-accessible, voice
recorder ap for Iphone 5?  I have experimented with several, with results
ranging from average (basic workability) to totally unusable and/or totally
silent, with VO going into apparent paralysis and causing me to do likewise.
I am after something with as clear as possible recording quality, to be used
for recording meetings etc, and which allows for easy transfer of the
digital files onto my PC.  Any experiences would be appreciated.



Regards,



Julie

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Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps

2013-09-16 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, the reason VO goes seemingly silent is because it helps prevent from 
it speaking on your recordings. The trouble is that if you don't know 
where on the screen the stop button is, that can be a bit disconcerting 
and leave you out at sea with no paddles. Or so it feels that way. So, 
here is what I recommend. Voxie Pro by Bottle Rocket. This also makes VO 
go totally quiet, but if you record in express mode, you can shake phone 
to start and shake once again to stop. Plus a tone is played when it 
starts and stops recording. Plus, if the shaking isn't working, or you 
don't want to do that, there is only one button in the middle of the 
screen, so if VO is silent because it's recording, just touch the middle 
of the screen once, then double tap like a normal button and the 
recording will stop. Voxie has the ability to record in 16Khz, 22Khz and 
44Khz to make the quality from lowest to highest. You can save the 
recordings to your computer via iTunes file sharing or via the built-in 
web browser and get them from your pc browser that way. There are a ton 
of recording apps, but this one is the first one which comes to mind, 
and is my favorite. It doesn't have dropbox like some others do, but i 
still use this one over most on my iPhone 4s. It should work on the 5 
just as good.


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On 9/15/2013 8:12 PM, Julie Acton wrote:

Hi all.

Just wondering if anyone can recommend me a good, VO-accessible, voice
recorder ap for Iphone 5?  I have experimented with several, with
results ranging from average (basic workability) to totally unusable
and/or totally silent, with VO going into apparent paralysis and causing
me to do likewise.  I am after something with as clear as possible
recording quality, to be used for recording meetings etc, and which
allows for easy transfer of the digital files onto my PC.  Any
experiences would be appreciated.

Regards,

Julie

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Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps

2013-09-16 Thread Isaac Hebert
iPro recorder and iTalk recorder

On 9/16/13, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:
 Hi, the reason VO goes seemingly silent is because it helps prevent from
 it speaking on your recordings. The trouble is that if you don't know
 where on the screen the stop button is, that can be a bit disconcerting
 and leave you out at sea with no paddles. Or so it feels that way. So,
 here is what I recommend. Voxie Pro by Bottle Rocket. This also makes VO
 go totally quiet, but if you record in express mode, you can shake phone
 to start and shake once again to stop. Plus a tone is played when it
 starts and stops recording. Plus, if the shaking isn't working, or you
 don't want to do that, there is only one button in the middle of the
 screen, so if VO is silent because it's recording, just touch the middle
 of the screen once, then double tap like a normal button and the
 recording will stop. Voxie has the ability to record in 16Khz, 22Khz and
 44Khz to make the quality from lowest to highest. You can save the
 recordings to your computer via iTunes file sharing or via the built-in
 web browser and get them from your pc browser that way. There are a ton
 of recording apps, but this one is the first one which comes to mind,
 and is my favorite. It doesn't have dropbox like some others do, but i
 still use this one over most on my iPhone 4s. It should work on the 5
 just as good.

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 On 9/15/2013 8:12 PM, Julie Acton wrote:
 Hi all.

 Just wondering if anyone can recommend me a good, VO-accessible, voice
 recorder ap for Iphone 5?  I have experimented with several, with
 results ranging from average (basic workability) to totally unusable
 and/or totally silent, with VO going into apparent paralysis and causing
 me to do likewise.  I am after something with as clear as possible
 recording quality, to be used for recording meetings etc, and which
 allows for easy transfer of the digital files onto my PC.  Any
 experiences would be appreciated.

 Regards,

 Julie

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RE: Voiceover Friendly Weather Aps

2013-06-03 Thread Jennie Facer
Hi,

 

Try Forecast Now.

 

Jenn

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sirena
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 6:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voiceover Friendly Weather Aps

 

Hey guys,

 

Can someone give me any advice for accessible weather aps? I have an iPhone
4S.

 

I'm sorry if this question has been asked before. I find the Google Group
archives to be inaccessible with Jaws. Maybe I'm not looking in the right
place. If any of you have any ideas about that, feel free to e-mail me off
list. I hate posting duplicates and I'm sure weather aps have been covered.

 

Si

 

 

 


Seek
By Sirena Carroll

 

When life's bitter tonic,
taints both heart and air,,
seek the raging thunderstorm,
and find your comfort there.

 

When sacred dreams are shattered,
into fragments of a soul,,
seek out the flying eagle,
and on his wings be whole.

 

When past mistakes endeavour,
to break the heart in two,,
seek then the mighty lion,
and let him carry you.,

 

When hope is but a daydream,
and nightmares claim the mind,,
seek the devil whispering,
and bid him get behind.

 

When legal be the laws of men,
and terror claims the heart,,
seek the strength which dwells within,
and n'er let it depart.

 

When hungry grow the jaws of wrath,,
fed by wrong demand,,
seek then the cleansing touch of God,
and shelter in his hand.

 

Never stroke the beast of vengeance,
lest it bite you true,,
seek the High Protector,
and let him care for you.

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Re: Voiceover Friendly Weather Aps

2013-06-03 Thread JoJo and Clinton
I like Menu weather.  I think it is very voiceOver friendly.

JoJo

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Voiceover Friendly Weather Aps

2013-05-30 Thread Sirena
Hey guys,

Can someone give me any advice for accessible weather aps? I have an iPhone 4S.

I'm sorry if this question has been asked before. I find the Google Group 
archives to be inaccessible with Jaws. Maybe I'm not looking in the right 
place. If any of you have any ideas about that, feel free to e-mail me off 
list. I hate posting duplicates and I'm sure weather aps have been covered.

Si




Seek
By Sirena Carroll

When life's bitter tonic,
taints both heart and air,,
seek the raging thunderstorm,
and find your comfort there.

When sacred dreams are shattered,
into fragments of a soul,,
seek out the flying eagle,
and on his wings be whole.

When past mistakes endeavour,
to break the heart in two,,
seek then the mighty lion,
and let him carry you.,

When hope is but a daydream,
and nightmares claim the mind,,
seek the devil whispering,
and bid him get behind.

When legal be the laws of men,
and terror claims the heart,,
seek the strength which dwells within,
and n'er let it depart.

When hungry grow the jaws of wrath,,
fed by wrong demand,,
seek then the cleansing touch of God,
and shelter in his hand.

Never stroke the beast of vengeance,
lest it bite you true,,
seek the High Protector,
and let him care for you.

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RE: Voiceover Friendly Weather Aps

2013-05-30 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hello,

 

A link to the list archive is in the footer of each message you receive and
it is perfectly accessible. In the footer it says:

 

To search the VIPhone public archive, visit
http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/.

 

You can also read reviews of several weather apps on Applevis, there are 52
app reviews in the Weather category and if you filter them by those that are
fully accessible and easy to use it reduces the number significantly. The
direct link to all the apps in the Weather category is:

 

http://www.applevis.com/ios-app-directory/weather

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sirena
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 5:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Voiceover Friendly Weather Aps

 

Hey guys,

 

Can someone give me any advice for accessible weather aps? I have an iPhone
4S.

 

I'm sorry if this question has been asked before. I find the Google Group
archives to be inaccessible with Jaws. Maybe I'm not looking in the right
place. If any of you have any ideas about that, feel free to e-mail me off
list. I hate posting duplicates and I'm sure weather aps have been covered.

 

Si

 

 

 


Seek
By Sirena Carroll

 

When life's bitter tonic,
taints both heart and air,,
seek the raging thunderstorm,
and find your comfort there.

 

When sacred dreams are shattered,
into fragments of a soul,,
seek out the flying eagle,
and on his wings be whole.

 

When past mistakes endeavour,
to break the heart in two,,
seek then the mighty lion,
and let him carry you.,

 

When hope is but a daydream,
and nightmares claim the mind,,
seek the devil whispering,
and bid him get behind.

 

When legal be the laws of men,
and terror claims the heart,,
seek the strength which dwells within,
and n'er let it depart.

 

When hungry grow the jaws of wrath,,
fed by wrong demand,,
seek then the cleansing touch of God,
and shelter in his hand.

 

Never stroke the beast of vengeance,
lest it bite you true,,
seek the High Protector,
and let him care for you.

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Re: Recipe Aps

2013-02-22 Thread MamaPeach
Which all recipes app do you have? Mine does not have a way of adding your own 
recipes. I don’t even see a recipe tab. My tabs at the bottom are Spinner, 
Favorites, Search, Featured And List.

From: Alan Paganelli 
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 11:06 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Recipe Aps

I found all recipes to be accessible as long as you were adding your own but 
not when you double tap on the recipes tab.  Then accessibility goes right out 
the window.
  - Original Message - 
  From: David Chittenden 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 3:27 AM
  Subject: Re: Recipe Aps

  Check out Paprika recipe manager. You may also like All Recipes.

  David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA 
  Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
  Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
  Sent from my iPhone

  On 21/02/2013, at 6:26, Si sieradr...@gmail.com wrote:


Hey guys,

Do any of you know of any accessible recipe aps where I can either enter my 
own recipes and store favorites or with pre-loaded recipes or a search feature 
that I can use to find recipes? Being able to add favorites is a great thing 
too.

And I'd totally search the archives, but google groups isn't accessible 
anymore. Any suggestions on that as well? I don't want to continually ask 
questions that may have already been answered.

Si
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Paprika and Cook Lebanese 101 Recipes, was: Recipe Aps

2013-02-22 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hello,

 

I would agree that Paprika is probably one of the better recipe apps out
there for Voiceover users. They specifically made Voiceover improvements and
you can either enter your own recipes in the app or you can save recipes
from several dozen recipe sites directly into the app which works
beautifully. You do this via the built-in web browser, after you find a
recipe there will be a Save button at the end which puts everything into
it's proper place in the app.

 

As for other apps, I posted the below app review on February 10 as the app
was free on that day.

Given that there is quite a bit of interest in cooking and recipe apps
whenever they are discussed, I was surprised that not a single person
replied on or off-list with their thoughts about Cook Lebanese 101 Recipes
which is the name of the app.

This app is not a generic recipe app, it is specific and contains 101
recipes from the Lebanese cuisine, but those I looked at are very nice
recipes and the nice thing is that the app has ver nice accessibility. Below
one more time my review of Lebanese 

 

For those who are interested in cooking/recipe apps, I was notified by the
App of the Day app that this one is free today, normally it is $2.99.

At first I was skeptical since quite a lot of the free apps I am notified
about by the App of the Day app are games or not very interesting, but
there is the rare good one and this seems to be one of these,.

 

The app is called Cook Lebanese 101 Recipes and the developer is
shahiya.com

Below are links for the Canadian, US and UK app store followed by the app
store description. But, since it's Sunday and I felt like being nice please
feel free to read past that or search for App Review where I am giving a
pretty complete description of the app.

 

Canadian App Store Link:

https://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/cook-lebanese-101-recipes/id443934198?mt=8

 

US App Store Link:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/cook-lebanese-101-recipes/id443934198?mt=8

 

UK App Store:

https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/cook-lebanese-101-recipes/id443934198?mt=8

 

Please note that I am not sure if this is free in all the app stores since I
am not sure how App of the Day negotiates this.

 

Description:

 

Shahiya.com is the leading user generated Arab food website published in
Arabic and English. Over the years it succeeded in creating a one of a kind
social network of Arab food lovers where a growing community of budding
cooks and confirmed ones share recipes, learn new ones, and discuss them
together.

 

Now, with a wealth of experience in food and cooking behind us, we present
Cook Lebanese - 101 recipes. Those recipes have been selected, cooked,
tasted and adjusted by the Shahiya.com team to bring to you the flagship
recipes of Lebanese cuisine!

 

In this application:

 

- Only ingredients available worldwide are used

- Only basic kitchen utensils are required

- An English name is given for each recipe alongside the Lebanese name

- Each recipe has a brief introduction putting it in the context of the
Lebanese culinary scene.

- The photo illustrating each recipe is true to the expected end result.
What you see is what you get!

- Nutrition facts are included for each recipe. No other app. on Lebanese
cuisine offers this!

- A clear step-by-step cooking method: simple wording, no cooking jargon.

 

With this App an authentic taste of Lebanese cuisine enters your home!

 

- Browse recipes by categories and filter Vegetarian recipes within each
category

- Browse recipes by photos

- Add recipes to your favorites

- Share recipes with friends and family via e-mail

- Search by recipe name or any word in the recipe name

- Write your own comments for each recipe you've tried

 

What's New in Version 1.05 

 

Bug Fix for iOS 6

 

Customer Reviews

 

Yolla by Yoyorare 

Love this app. Very easy to follow recipes 

 

101 lebanese recipes by Lpntonya 

Hubby is lebanese and they are exactly right finally an app that has legit
lebanese food alhumduilla 

 

Lebanese recipes by Rania77 

This is the best Apps for Lebanese dishes!

 

Category: Food  Drink

Updated:  Oct 13, 2012

Version: 1.05

Size: 14.5 MB

Language: English

Seller: NetSila SAL

C 2011 NetSila SAL

Rated 4+

Requirements: Compatible with iPhone, iPod touch and iPad. Requires iOS 3.0
or later.

 

I had a quick look and was pleasantly surprised that the app seems to be
entirely accessible. When you first open the app there is an All
Categories, dimmed button at the top left. I believe it's dimmed because
the opening screen shows all categories anyways.

Underneath is a row of buttons which from left to right are labelled as
follows:

Cat 3 button, Cat 4 Button, Cat 5 Button and Cat 6 Button.

Underneath this is another row of 4 buttons which are labelled more
descriptively as follows:

Salads Button, Soups Button, Vegetarian Button, Casseroles and Stews Button

As far as I can tell Cat 3 which is right above Salads brings up the
list of 

RE: Paprika and Cook Lebanese 101 Recipes, was: Recipe Aps

2013-02-22 Thread Melissa
I am looking at the Paprika app you recommended, and it looks really
promising.  You mentioned that it lets you find recipes through a browser,
and save them categorically.  What I'm wondering, since it is a rather
expensive app, is this:

Let's say you are looking for a recipe for dinner rolls.  I assume you would
do a search from within the app, and you would get a list of results,
correct?  And when you chose one of those results, it would open up just the
recipe, not a webpage full of other links and distractions, (such as would
happen when using a Cook.com).  And it is at the end of this recipe that you
would find a save button?

I hope what I'm asking is clear.  If not, let me know.  I don't mind paying
for it, but since it is $5, I want to make sure it is what I'm expecting.

One other quick question, how extensive is the recipe collection?  I am
gathering it pulls recipes from multiple sources?

Many kind thanks,

Melissa

 

 

Melissa Riley

 mailto:jamand...@izoom.net jamand...@izoom.net

riley...@umn.edu

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 9:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Paprika and Cook Lebanese 101 Recipes, was: Recipe Aps

 

Hello,

 

I would agree that Paprika is probably one of the better recipe apps out
there for Voiceover users. They specifically made Voiceover improvements and
you can either enter your own recipes in the app or you can save recipes
from several dozen recipe sites directly into the app which works
beautifully. You do this via the built-in web browser, after you find a
recipe there will be a Save button at the end which puts everything into
it's proper place in the app.

 

As for other apps, I posted the below app review on February 10 as the app
was free on that day.

Given that there is quite a bit of interest in cooking and recipe apps
whenever they are discussed, I was surprised that not a single person
replied on or off-list with their thoughts about Cook Lebanese 101 Recipes
which is the name of the app.

This app is not a generic recipe app, it is specific and contains 101
recipes from the Lebanese cuisine, but those I looked at are very nice
recipes and the nice thing is that the app has ver nice accessibility. Below
one more time my review of Lebanese 

 

For those who are interested in cooking/recipe apps, I was notified by the
App of the Day app that this one is free today, normally it is $2.99.

At first I was skeptical since quite a lot of the free apps I am notified
about by the App of the Day app are games or not very interesting, but
there is the rare good one and this seems to be one of these,.

 

The app is called Cook Lebanese 101 Recipes and the developer is
shahiya.com

Below are links for the Canadian, US and UK app store followed by the app
store description. But, since it's Sunday and I felt like being nice please
feel free to read past that or search for App Review where I am giving a
pretty complete description of the app.

 

Canadian App Store Link:

https://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/cook-lebanese-101-recipes/id443934198?mt=8

 

US App Store Link:

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/cook-lebanese-101-recipes/id443934198?mt=8

 

UK App Store:

https://itunes.apple.com/gb/app/cook-lebanese-101-recipes/id443934198?mt=8

 

Please note that I am not sure if this is free in all the app stores since I
am not sure how App of the Day negotiates this.

 

Description:

 

Shahiya.com is the leading user generated Arab food website published in
Arabic and English. Over the years it succeeded in creating a one of a kind
social network of Arab food lovers where a growing community of budding
cooks and confirmed ones share recipes, learn new ones, and discuss them
together.

 

Now, with a wealth of experience in food and cooking behind us, we present
Cook Lebanese - 101 recipes. Those recipes have been selected, cooked,
tasted and adjusted by the Shahiya.com team to bring to you the flagship
recipes of Lebanese cuisine!

 

In this application:

 

- Only ingredients available worldwide are used

- Only basic kitchen utensils are required

- An English name is given for each recipe alongside the Lebanese name

- Each recipe has a brief introduction putting it in the context of the
Lebanese culinary scene.

- The photo illustrating each recipe is true to the expected end result.
What you see is what you get!

- Nutrition facts are included for each recipe. No other app. on Lebanese
cuisine offers this!

- A clear step-by-step cooking method: simple wording, no cooking jargon.

 

With this App an authentic taste of Lebanese cuisine enters your home!

 

- Browse recipes by categories and filter Vegetarian recipes within each
category

- Browse recipes by photos

- Add recipes to your favorites

- Share recipes with friends and family via e-mail

- Search by recipe name or any word in the recipe name

- Write your own comments for each recipe

Re: Recipe Aps

2013-02-22 Thread Roger Frischenmeyer
chef's recipes is not bad as well 
I believe in daring to be different-if different means looking up rather than 
putting down, in helping rather than hurting. I'll be as different as I can.
-- Denis Waitley
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  Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 8:36 AM
  Subject: Re: Recipe Aps


  How do you add your own recipes? Is this possible in the paid version only?


  Thanks! Marcie





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  On Feb 21, 2013, at 6:44 AM, MamaPeach mamape...@charter.net wrote:


Big Oven offers the ability to add recipes of your own and also the ability 
to search and add search results to favorites. Once you open the app, give it a 
few minutes to load. At the top left, it will say online. If you double tap on 
where it says Home Recipes On, you will be given things like Search over 
250,000 recipes, Recipe Collections, Menus, My Friends Recipes, Use Up 
Leftovers, Recent Raves, Random Recipe and Cooking Nearby. If you double tap on 
where it says Home Kitchen On, you will find things like Menu Planner, Grocery 
List, My Recipes, Favorite Recipes, Recipes To Try Soon, Recipes I’ve Added, 
Recipes I’ve Made, My Menus and Add Recipes. And finally if you double tap 
where it says Home Elsewhere On, you will find things like Sign In, Help, 
Contact Big Oven, Advertise With Big Oven, Tell A Friend About Big Oven, 
Trouble Shooting and Big Oven Food Glossary. So to me, this sounds like exactly 
like what you are looking for.

From: Si 
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 12:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Recipe Aps

Hey guys,

Do any of you know of any accessible recipe aps where I can either enter my 
own recipes and store favorites or with pre-loaded recipes or a search feature 
that I can use to find recipes? Being able to add favorites is a great thing 
too.

And I'd totally search the archives, but google groups isn't accessible 
anymore. Any suggestions on that as well? I don't want to continually ask 
questions that may have already been answered.

Si
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Re: gps aps

2013-02-22 Thread Sergio
Hi, imove is an app that does what you ask. Its is free. It reads addresses, 
shops and you can record audio notes. Give it a try. 
You can personalize how often the app reads the info. 

https://itunes.apple.com/app/imove/id593874954

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