Re: Streaming Devices

[Feliciano Godoy]

Reg,
I emailed you.
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> On Apr 18, 2024, at 6:29 AM, regs2...@rogers.com wrote:
> 
> Feliciano, you can email me at
> regs2...@rogers.com
> 
> Best
> 
> Reg
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Feliciano Godoy
> Sent: April 17, 2024 8:40 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Streaming Devices
> 
> Reg,
> Something like WiiM comes to mind.  I emailed you off list.
> 
> Feliciano
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>> On Apr 17, 2024, at 5:34 PM, regs2...@rogers.com wrote:
>> 
>> Fair enough Feliciano.
>> Family room:
>> I have a surround sound Marantz Receiver and B & W speakers.
>> I have an IPHONE  SE 3rd edition.
>> 
>> Man Cave in the basement:
>> Higher end Italian Two channel Integrated Tube  Amp.
>> Electro static floor standing speakers.
>> MTS DAC
>> Restored Panasonic Turntable
>> This is where I get serious about the sound.  Looks like I need a streamer 
>> for each system, I believe?
>> 
>> Best
>> Reg
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Feliciano Godoy
>> Sent: April 17, 2024 8:10 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Streaming Devices
>> 
>> I can probably help, but I need to know more about your stereo system to 
>> make sure everything will be compatible and work with your needs.
>> Feliciano
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>>>> On Apr 17, 2024, at 4:44 PM, regs2...@rogers.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello all.  I'm looking to add a digital streamer to my stereo sound 
>>> system.
>>> I want it to have a built in DAC and a fairly accessible IOS  APP.
>>> Wondering if anyone has a brand that you like with an app that you
>>> have used with voice over?
>>> My budget is $1000 or less and have been looking at the IFI Zen, but
>>> not sure how accessible their app is?
>>> 
>>> All feedback and thoughts are welcome.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best Regards
>>> 
>>> Reg Sullivan
>>> 
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RE: Streaming Devices

[regs2000]

Feliciano, you can email me at 
regs2...@rogers.com

Best

Reg


-Original Message-
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Feliciano Godoy
Sent: April 17, 2024 8:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Streaming Devices

Reg,
Something like WiiM comes to mind.  I emailed you off list.

Feliciano 

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> On Apr 17, 2024, at 5:34 PM, regs2...@rogers.com wrote:
> 
> Fair enough Feliciano.
> Family room:
> I have a surround sound Marantz Receiver and B & W speakers.
> I have an IPHONE  SE 3rd edition.
> 
> Man Cave in the basement:
> Higher end Italian Two channel Integrated Tube  Amp.
> Electro static floor standing speakers.
> MTS DAC
> Restored Panasonic Turntable
> This is where I get serious about the sound.  Looks like I need a streamer 
> for each system, I believe?
> 
> Best
> Reg
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Feliciano Godoy
> Sent: April 17, 2024 8:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Streaming Devices
> 
> I can probably help, but I need to know more about your stereo system to make 
> sure everything will be compatible and work with your needs.
> Feliciano
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> 
>> On Apr 17, 2024, at 4:44 PM, regs2...@rogers.com wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all.  I'm looking to add a digital streamer to my stereo sound system.
>> I want it to have a built in DAC and a fairly accessible IOS  APP.
>> Wondering if anyone has a brand that you like with an app that you 
>> have used with voice over?
>> My budget is $1000 or less and have been looking at the IFI Zen, but 
>> not sure how accessible their app is?
>> 
>> All feedback and thoughts are welcome.
>> 
>> 
>> Best Regards
>> 
>> Reg Sullivan
>> 
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Re: Streaming Devices

[Feliciano Godoy]

Reg, 
Something like WiiM comes to mind.  I emailed
you off list.

Feliciano 

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> On Apr 17, 2024, at 5:34 PM, regs2...@rogers.com wrote:
> 
> Fair enough Feliciano.
> Family room:
> I have a surround sound Marantz Receiver and B & W speakers.
> I have an IPHONE  SE 3rd edition.
> 
> Man Cave in the basement:
> Higher end Italian Two channel Integrated Tube  Amp.
> Electro static floor standing speakers.
> MTS DAC
> Restored Panasonic Turntable
> This is where I get serious about the sound.  Looks like I need a streamer 
> for each system, I believe?
> 
> Best
> Reg
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Feliciano Godoy
> Sent: April 17, 2024 8:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Streaming Devices
> 
> I can probably help, but I need to know more about your stereo system to make 
> sure everything will be compatible and work with your needs.
> Feliciano
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> 
>> On Apr 17, 2024, at 4:44 PM, regs2...@rogers.com wrote:
>> 
>> Hello all.  I'm looking to add a digital streamer to my stereo sound system.
>> I want it to have a built in DAC and a fairly accessible IOS  APP.
>> Wondering if anyone has a brand that you like with an app that you
>> have used with voice over?
>> My budget is $1000 or less and have been looking at the IFI Zen, but
>> not sure how accessible their app is?
>> 
>> All feedback and thoughts are welcome.
>> 
>> 
>> Best Regards
>> 
>> Reg Sullivan
>> 
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RE: Streaming Devices

[regs2000]

Fair enough Feliciano. 
Family room: 
I have a surround sound Marantz Receiver and B & W speakers.
I have an IPHONE  SE 3rd edition.

Man Cave in the basement:
Higher end Italian Two channel Integrated Tube  Amp.
Electro static floor standing speakers.
MTS DAC 
Restored Panasonic Turntable 
This is where I get serious about the sound.  Looks like I need a streamer for 
each system, I believe?

Best
Reg

 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Feliciano Godoy
Sent: April 17, 2024 8:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Streaming Devices

I can probably help, but I need to know more about your stereo system to make 
sure everything will be compatible and work with your needs.
Feliciano
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> On Apr 17, 2024, at 4:44 PM, regs2...@rogers.com wrote:
> 
> Hello all.  I'm looking to add a digital streamer to my stereo sound system.
> I want it to have a built in DAC and a fairly accessible IOS  APP.
> Wondering if anyone has a brand that you like with an app that you 
> have used with voice over?
> My budget is $1000 or less and have been looking at the IFI Zen, but 
> not sure how accessible their app is?
> 
> All feedback and thoughts are welcome.
> 
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> Reg Sullivan
> 
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Re: Streaming Devices

[Feliciano Godoy]

I can probably help, but I need to know more about your stereo system to make 
sure everything will be compatible and work with your needs.
Feliciano
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> On Apr 17, 2024, at 4:44 PM, regs2...@rogers.com wrote:
> 
> Hello all.  I'm looking to add a digital streamer to my stereo sound system.
> I want it to have a built in DAC and a fairly accessible IOS  APP.
> Wondering if anyone has a brand that you like with an app that you have used
> with voice over?
> My budget is $1000 or less and have been looking at the IFI Zen, but not
> sure how accessible their app is?
> 
> All feedback and thoughts are welcome.
> 
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> Reg Sullivan
> 
> 
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RE: Streaming Devices

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Why not get a Sonos Port, super accessible and sonos will give you lots of 
options to add to in the future.

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regs2...@rogers.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2024 4:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Streaming Devices

Hello all.  I'm looking to add a digital streamer to my stereo sound system.
I want it to have a built in DAC and a fairly accessible IOS  APP.
Wondering if anyone has a brand that you like with an app that you have used 
with voice over? 
My budget is $1000 or less and have been looking at the IFI Zen, but not sure 
how accessible their app is?

All feedback and thoughts are welcome.


Best Regards

Reg Sullivan
 

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Streaming Devices

[regs2000]

Hello all.  I'm looking to add a digital streamer to my stereo sound system.
I want it to have a built in DAC and a fairly accessible IOS  APP.
Wondering if anyone has a brand that you like with an app that you have used
with voice over? 
My budget is $1000 or less and have been looking at the IFI Zen, but not
sure how accessible their app is?

All feedback and thoughts are welcome.


Best Regards

Reg Sullivan
 

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RE: unable to use any of my bluetooth devices with my iPhone

[CJ & AA MAY]

I re-started the phone and it return to portrait mode, thank goodness.

My iPhone has certainly been challenging me this past couple of days.

Alison

m

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck 
Adkins
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 10:58 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unable to use any of my bluetooth devices with my iPhone

 

I'm pretty sure you can find lock screen rotation in the control center, see if 
that works

Sent from my iPhone





On Mar 25, 2024, at 5:49 AM, CJ & AA MAY mailto:chrisalis...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Thanks.I’m taking your advice. But I have a real problem as, having re-set my 
iPhone, it has gone into landscape mode by default and I can’t see how to get 
it back into portrait mode as the option isn’t on the rota.

Any ideas?

Alison

 

 

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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
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I had the same problem with my focus, blue braille display. I had to turn it 
off and unplug it completely, and then tell my iPhone to forget the device. 
Then I turned Bluetooth completely off, rebooted the phone, turned Bluetooth 
back on, and it seemed to fix the problem. Don't know if that would work for 
you, but just thought I would let you know what happened to me. I have other 
displays and they don't seem to have that issue like the Bluetooth does, or at 
least I should say the issue that my Bluetooth had 

 

On Sun, Mar 24, 2024 at 7:43 PM CJ & AA MAY mailto:chrisalis...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I recently purchased a Focus Blue Notetaker which for the past three weeks has 
happily acted as a braille display for my computer and iPhone.

But I seem to have inadvertently upset the settings and at the moment, none of 
my Bluetooth headphones will work on the iPhone. I can see the devices listed 
in Bluetooth in settings but it tells me that none of them are available, only 
my Focus Blue Notetaker.

I have now deleted the Focus Blue in my iPhone’s settings and also in the Focus 
Blue’s Connectivity settings itself, but still, my Bluetooth devices refuse to 
work on my iPhone.

I am tempted to remove everything and then re-install them but does anyone have 
any other ideas?

Alison

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RE: unable to use any of my bluetooth devices with my iPhone

[CJ & AA MAY]

Thanks for your help, Chuck. I’ve done what you suggested and now have 
everything working as normal although had a few quirks along the way. I won’t 
be conneting my Focus Blue again to my iPhone.

Alison

 

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Subject: Re: unable to use any of my bluetooth devices with my iPhone

 

I had the same problem with my focus, blue braille display. I had to turn it 
off and unplug it completely, and then tell my iPhone to forget the device. 
Then I turned Bluetooth completely off, rebooted the phone, turned Bluetooth 
back on, and it seemed to fix the problem. Don't know if that would work for 
you, but just thought I would let you know what happened to me. I have other 
displays and they don't seem to have that issue like the Bluetooth does, or at 
least I should say the issue that my Bluetooth had 

 

On Sun, Mar 24, 2024 at 7:43 PM CJ & AA MAY mailto:chrisalis...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I recently purchased a Focus Blue Notetaker which for the past three weeks has 
happily acted as a braille display for my computer and iPhone.

But I seem to have inadvertently upset the settings and at the moment, none of 
my Bluetooth headphones will work on the iPhone. I can see the devices listed 
in Bluetooth in settings but it tells me that none of them are available, only 
my Focus Blue Notetaker.

I have now deleted the Focus Blue in my iPhone’s settings and also in the Focus 
Blue’s Connectivity settings itself, but still, my Bluetooth devices refuse to 
work on my iPhone.

I am tempted to remove everything and then re-install them but does anyone have 
any other ideas?

Alison

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Re: unable to use any of my bluetooth devices with my iPhone

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I'm pretty sure you can find lock screen rotation in the control center, see if that worksSent from my iPhoneOn Mar 25, 2024, at 5:49 AM, CJ & AA MAY  wrote:Thanks.I’m taking your advice. But I have a real problem as, having re-set my iPhone, it has gone into landscape mode by default and I can’t see how to get it back into portrait mode as the option isn’t on the rota.Any ideas?Alison  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chuck AdkinsSent: Monday, March 25, 2024 1:08 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: unable to use any of my bluetooth devices with my iPhone I had the same problem with my focus, blue braille display. I had to turn it off and unplug it completely, and then tell my iPhone to forget the device. Then I turned Bluetooth completely off, rebooted the phone, turned Bluetooth back on, and it seemed to fix the problem. Don't know if that would work for you, but just thought I would let you know what happened to me. I have other displays and they don't seem to have that issue like the Bluetooth does, or at least I should say the issue that my Bluetooth had  On Sun, Mar 24, 2024 at 7:43 PM CJ & AA MAY <chrisalis...@gmail.com> wrote:I recently purchased a Focus Blue Notetaker which for the past three weeks has happily acted as a braille display for my computer and iPhone.But I seem to have inadvertently upset the settings and at the moment, none of my Bluetooth headphones will work on the iPhone. I can see the devices listed in Bluetooth in settings but it tells me that none of them are available, only my Focus Blue Notetaker.I have now deleted the Focus Blue in my iPhone’s settings and also in the Focus Blue’s Connectivity settings itself, but still, my Bluetooth devices refuse to work on my iPhone.I am tempted to remove everything and then re-install them but does anyone have any other ideas?Alison-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/007501da7e45%241ad5bfb0%2450813f10%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAJhNHTp1NHkA-Jp-oyiVVqOdqi-kQ%2BiA0oTJu%2B6uiOaFE6wmpg%40mail.gmail.com.



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[CJ & AA MAY]

Thanks.I’m taking your advice. But I have a real problem as, having re-set my 
iPhone, it has gone into landscape mode by default and I can’t see how to get 
it back into portrait mode as the option isn’t on the rota.

Any ideas?

Alison

 

 

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Adkins
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2024 1:08 AM
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Subject: Re: unable to use any of my bluetooth devices with my iPhone

 

I had the same problem with my focus, blue braille display. I had to turn it 
off and unplug it completely, and then tell my iPhone to forget the device. 
Then I turned Bluetooth completely off, rebooted the phone, turned Bluetooth 
back on, and it seemed to fix the problem. Don't know if that would work for 
you, but just thought I would let you know what happened to me. I have other 
displays and they don't seem to have that issue like the Bluetooth does, or at 
least I should say the issue that my Bluetooth had 

 

On Sun, Mar 24, 2024 at 7:43 PM CJ & AA MAY mailto:chrisalis...@gmail.com> > wrote:

I recently purchased a Focus Blue Notetaker which for the past three weeks has 
happily acted as a braille display for my computer and iPhone.

But I seem to have inadvertently upset the settings and at the moment, none of 
my Bluetooth headphones will work on the iPhone. I can see the devices listed 
in Bluetooth in settings but it tells me that none of them are available, only 
my Focus Blue Notetaker.

I have now deleted the Focus Blue in my iPhone’s settings and also in the Focus 
Blue’s Connectivity settings itself, but still, my Bluetooth devices refuse to 
work on my iPhone.

I am tempted to remove everything and then re-install them but does anyone have 
any other ideas?

Alison

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Re: unable to use any of my bluetooth devices with my iPhone

[Chuck Adkins]

I had the same problem with my focus, blue braille display. I had to turn
it off and unplug it completely, and then tell my iPhone to forget the
device. Then I turned Bluetooth completely off, rebooted the phone, turned
Bluetooth back on, and it seemed to fix the problem. Don't know if that
would work for you, but just thought I would let you know what happened to
me. I have other displays and they don't seem to have that issue like the
Bluetooth does, or at least I should say the issue that my Bluetooth had

On Sun, Mar 24, 2024 at 7:43 PM CJ & AA MAY  wrote:

> I recently purchased a Focus Blue Notetaker which for the past three weeks
> has happily acted as a braille display for my computer and iPhone.
>
> But I seem to have inadvertently upset the settings and at the moment,
> none of my Bluetooth headphones will work on the iPhone. I can see the
> devices listed in Bluetooth in settings but it tells me that none of them
> are available, only my Focus Blue Notetaker.
>
> I have now deleted the Focus Blue in my iPhone’s settings and also in the
> Focus Blue’s Connectivity settings itself, but still, my Bluetooth devices
> refuse to work on my iPhone.
>
> I am tempted to remove everything and then re-install them but does anyone
> have any other ideas?
>
> Alison
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RE: unable to use any of my Bluetooth devices with my iPhone

[Christopher Chaltain]

If you haven't tried this already, empty the App Switcher and restart your 
iPhone. Also, try forgetting one of those Bluetooth devices to see if you can 
then pair it up again. If you've tried that, and you're getting desperate, 
reset all network settings to see if that does the rick. You'll need to pair 
all of your Bluetooth devices again.

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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

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MAY
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2024 6:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: unable to use any of my bluetooth devices with my iPhone

I recently purchased a Focus Blue Notetaker which for the past three weeks has 
happily acted as a braille display for my computer and iPhone.
But I seem to have inadvertently upset the settings and at the moment, none of 
my Bluetooth headphones will work on the iPhone. I can see the devices listed 
in Bluetooth in settings but it tells me that none of them are available, only 
my Focus Blue Notetaker.
I have now deleted the Focus Blue in my iPhone's settings and also in the Focus 
Blue's Connectivity settings itself, but still, my Bluetooth devices refuse to 
work on my iPhone.
I am tempted to remove everything and then re-install them but does anyone have 
any other ideas?
Alison
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Re: unable to use any of my bluetooth devices with my iPhone

[Andy Baracco]

Probably should forget them and re pair them.

Andy

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  I recently purchased a Focus Blue Notetaker which for the past three weeks 
has happily acted as a braille display for my computer and iPhone.

  But I seem to have inadvertently upset the settings and at the moment, none 
of my Bluetooth headphones will work on the iPhone. I can see the devices 
listed in Bluetooth in settings but it tells me that none of them are 
available, only my Focus Blue Notetaker.

  I have now deleted the Focus Blue in my iPhone’s settings and also in the 
Focus Blue’s Connectivity settings itself, but still, my Bluetooth devices 
refuse to work on my iPhone.

  I am tempted to remove everything and then re-install them but does anyone 
have any other ideas?

  Alison


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RE: unable to use any of my bluetooth devices with my iPhone

[CJ & AA MAY]

I recently purchased a Focus Blue Notetaker which for the past three weeks has 
happily acted as a braille display for my computer and iPhone.

But I seem to have inadvertently upset the settings and at the moment, none of 
my Bluetooth headphones will work on the iPhone. I can see the devices listed 
in Bluetooth in settings but it tells me that none of them are available, only 
my Focus Blue Notetaker.

I have now deleted the Focus Blue in my iPhone’s settings and also in the Focus 
Blue’s Connectivity settings itself, but still, my Bluetooth devices refuse to 
work on my iPhone.

I am tempted to remove everything and then re-install them but does anyone have 
any other ideas?

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RE: accessible blood pressure monitoring devices that work with iPHone

[Richard Turner]

I’ve heard the same about the Cardio Arm.

IN fact, Amazon has the Cardioarm 2 for $119 and some cents.  It is a portable 
unit with a rechargeable battery that is good for at least 30 days, possibly 60 
on a charge.

I have not gotten one myself, but several people have recommended them.

 

 

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I believe that the Qardio Arm does.

 

Andy

 

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All:

Are there accessible BP monitoring devices that work with iPhone? Or apple 
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Re: accessible blood pressure monitoring devices that work with iPHone

[Andy Baracco]

I believe that the Qardio Arm does.

Andy

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accessible blood pressure monitoring devices that work with iPHone

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Correction: Apple Devices for Windows User guide

[Richard Turner]

I had sent what I thought was the user guide for Apple Music for Windows, but 
in fact, I sent a link within the welcome to Apple Devices user guide.

Here is the main link for the Apple Devices user guide.

 

https://support.apple.com/guide/devices-windows/welcome/windows

 

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RE: How do I prevent my emails from being deleted on multiple devices

[James Bentley]

This information is extremely helpful because it is accurate and explained with 
clear examples.

 

James B  

 

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Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2023 1:38 AM
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If you use more than one device what you should want is for both devices to 
show exactly the same thing. For example, if you are out and about and get an 
email and reply to it on your iPhone, I at least would want to see on my 
computer that the email was replied to and that the reply is there in the sent 
folder or wherever I move it to.

Similarly, if I delete an email I delete it because I either don’t want it 
because it’s spam or I am done with it. In that case why would I not want said 
email to be deleted on all my devices?

As others pointed out, IMAP and Microsoft Exchange are protocols where your 
mail, contacts and so on are stored on the server of your provider and a local 
copy of the data is synced to your devices. The sync works both ways, you read 
an email on one device and it shows as read on the other, you reply to an email 
and it shows as replied to  on the other, you sent an email on one device and 
the message is in your sent items folder on the other device or devices. You 
add a contact on your iPhone while you are out and about and that contact is 
also there on your computer and vice versa. 

It may take a little getting used to, but this is the way email should work 
when multiple devices are involved, POP3 is an old protocol which was never 
designed for a situation where 2 or more devices are involved, yes, you can 
specify to “leave mail on server” on one device, but then this does not do 
anything for other stuff, e.g. if you were to send a message to somebody on 
your iPhone with an account set up as POP3, then that message you sent lives on 
your iPhone only and you would never know it was sent if you looked at the sent 
messages on your computer. I know a few people on this list love to live in the 
past and they think POP3 is the reinvention of the wheel but it’s definitely 
not.

The other advantage of IMAP or Exchange of course is the fact that everything 
is backed up already and if you get a new device whether computer or iPhone, 
you don’t even have to think about backing up your Outlook data file and then 
restoring it and all that. All you do is you enter your credentials on the new 
device when you set up the account and everything magically appears.

 

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Subject: How do I prevent my emails from being deleted on multiple devices

 

I use Microsoft-365, windows-10 on my desktop as my primary email program. I 
only use my iPhone on occasion, mostly when I go out of my house. I recently 
had to switch my Outlook-365 Verizon account from POP to IMAP. This means that, 
unfortunately, my emails are no longer deleted from the server after I download 
them on my desktop, so they come into my phone, too. It also seems to mean  
that when I delete an email on my phone or desktop, it’s also somehow deleted 
from the other device. I emphatically do not want that. How do I prevent this 
from happening?

Thanks  John Riehl 

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RE: How do I prevent my emails from being deleted on multiple devices

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you use more than one device what you should want is for both devices to 
show exactly the same thing. For example, if you are out and about and get an 
email and reply to it on your iPhone, I at least would want to see on my 
computer that the email was replied to and that the reply is there in the sent 
folder or wherever I move it to.
Similarly, if I delete an email I delete it because I either don’t want it 
because it’s spam or I am done with it. In that case why would I not want said 
email to be deleted on all my devices?
As others pointed out, IMAP and Microsoft Exchange are protocols where your 
mail, contacts and so on are stored on the server of your provider and a local 
copy of the data is synced to your devices. The sync works both ways, you read 
an email on one device and it shows as read on the other, you reply to an email 
and it shows as replied to  on the other, you sent an email on one device and 
the message is in your sent items folder on the other device or devices. You 
add a contact on your iPhone while you are out and about and that contact is 
also there on your computer and vice versa.
It may take a little getting used to, but this is the way email should work 
when multiple devices are involved, POP3 is an old protocol which was never 
designed for a situation where 2 or more devices are involved, yes, you can 
specify to “leave mail on server” on one device, but then this does not do 
anything for other stuff, e.g. if you were to send a message to somebody on 
your iPhone with an account set up as POP3, then that message you sent lives on 
your iPhone only and you would never know it was sent if you looked at the sent 
messages on your computer. I know a few people on this list love to live in the 
past and they think POP3 is the reinvention of the wheel but it’s definitely 
not.
The other advantage of IMAP or Exchange of course is the fact that everything 
is backed up already and if you get a new device whether computer or iPhone, 
you don’t even have to think about backing up your Outlook data file and then 
restoring it and all that. All you do is you enter your credentials on the new 
device when you set up the account and everything magically appears.

From: 'john riehl' via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 7:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How do I prevent my emails from being deleted on multiple devices

I use Microsoft-365, windows-10 on my desktop as my primary email program. I 
only use my iPhone on occasion, mostly when I go out of my house. I recently 
had to switch my Outlook-365 Verizon account from POP to IMAP. This means that, 
unfortunately, my emails are no longer deleted from the server after I download 
them on my desktop, so they come into my phone, too. It also seems to mean  
that when I delete an email on my phone or desktop, it’s also somehow deleted 
from the other device. I emphatically do not want that. How do I prevent this 
from happening?
Thanks  John Riehl
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Re: How do I prevent my emails from being deleted on multiple devices

[Andy Baracco]

Well, that's how IMAP works. Some like that feature and others do not.

Andy

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  I use Microsoft-365, windows-10 on my desktop as my primary email program. I 
only use my iPhone on occasion, mostly when I go out of my house. I recently 
had to switch my Outlook-365 Verizon account from POP to IMAP. This means that, 
unfortunately, my emails are no longer deleted from the server after I download 
them on my desktop, so they come into my phone, too. It also seems to mean  
that when I delete an email on my phone or desktop, it’s also somehow deleted 
from the other device. I emphatically do not want that. How do I prevent this 
from happening?

  Thanks  John Riehl 


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RE: How do I prevent my emails from being deleted on multiple devices

[Dennis Long]

Set it up as pop3.
 
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Brandon 
Olivares
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 11:11 AM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Re: How do I prevent my emails from being deleted on multiple devices
 
Yeah that’s just how the IMAP protocol works; I don’t think there’s anything 
you can do about it.



On Dec 16, 2023, at 11:08 AM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:
 
I do not know that you can prevent that when using Exchange or iMap.
 
I think I would call either, or both, Microsoft or Apple to see if they have 
knowledge of a setting to do what you want.
 
 
 
 
 
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Subject: How do I prevent my emails from being deleted on multiple devices
 
I use Microsoft-365, windows-10 on my desktop as my primary email program. I 
only use my iPhone on occasion, mostly when I go out of my house. I recently 
had to switch my Outlook-365 Verizon account from POP to IMAP. This means that, 
unfortunately, my emails are no longer deleted from the server after I download 
them on my desktop, so they come into my phone, too. It also seems to mean  
that when I delete an email on my phone or desktop, it’s also somehow deleted 
from the other device. I emphatically do not want that. How do I prevent this 
from happening?
Thanks  John Riehl 
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Re: How do I prevent my emails from being deleted on multiple devices

[Brandon Olivares]

Yeah that’s just how the IMAP protocol works; I don’t think there’s anything 
you can do about it.

> On Dec 16, 2023, at 11:08 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I do not know that you can prevent that when using Exchange or iMap.
>  
> I think I would call either, or both, Microsoft or Apple to see if they have 
> knowledge of a setting to do what you want.
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Richard, USA
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> Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715),
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> From: 'john riehl' via VIPhone  
> Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 7:31 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: How do I prevent my emails from being deleted on multiple devices
>  
> I use Microsoft-365, windows-10 on my desktop as my primary email program. I 
> only use my iPhone on occasion, mostly when I go out of my house. I recently 
> had to switch my Outlook-365 Verizon account from POP to IMAP. This means 
> that, unfortunately, my emails are no longer deleted from the server after I 
> download them on my desktop, so they come into my phone, too. It also seems 
> to mean  that when I delete an email on my phone or desktop, it’s also 
> somehow deleted from the other device. I emphatically do not want that. How 
> do I prevent this from happening?
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RE: How do I prevent my emails from being deleted on multiple devices

[Richard Turner]

I do not know that you can prevent that when using Exchange or iMap.

 

I think I would call either, or both, Microsoft or Apple to see if they have 
knowledge of a setting to do what you want.

 

 

 

 

 

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JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

 

 

From: 'john riehl' via VIPhone  
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2023 7:31 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: How do I prevent my emails from being deleted on multiple devices

 

I use Microsoft-365, windows-10 on my desktop as my primary email program. I 
only use my iPhone on occasion, mostly when I go out of my house. I recently 
had to switch my Outlook-365 Verizon account from POP to IMAP. This means that, 
unfortunately, my emails are no longer deleted from the server after I download 
them on my desktop, so they come into my phone, too. It also seems to mean  
that when I delete an email on my phone or desktop, it’s also somehow deleted 
from the other device. I emphatically do not want that. How do I prevent this 
from happening?

Thanks  John Riehl 

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How do I prevent my emails from being deleted on multiple devices

['john riehl' via VIPhone]

I use Microsoft-365, windows-10 on my desktop as my primary email program. I
only use my iPhone on occasion, mostly when I go out of my house. I recently
had to switch my Outlook-365 Verizon account from POP to IMAP. This means
that, unfortunately, my emails are no longer deleted from the server after I
download them on my desktop, so they come into my phone, too. It also seems
to mean  that when I delete an email on my phone or desktop, it's also
somehow deleted from the other device. I emphatically do not want that. How
do I prevent this from happening?

Thanks  John Riehl 

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RE: making extra payments on Apple devices

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Your emails are mostly empty or maybe you put your comments at the very end of 
the thread which means most people won’t read them.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of alban 
hoxha
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 4:11 AM
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Subject: Re: making extra payments on Apple devices



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 1:39:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: making extra payments on Apple devices


Thanks, what’s getting me is that some of my bills post at the end of the month 
so there is always something pending. If your balance is paid in full you 
cannot make payments towards the device because of those pending charges.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicky 
Collins
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2023 1:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: making extra payments on Apple devices



I'm way behind on email, but since I don't see this link posted yet, I figured 
I would send it. It does have a section that discusses making extra payments on 
installment agreements.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210644

Sent from my iPhone



On Nov 2, 2023, at 6:52 AM, 
sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com<mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> wrote:



Yeah I know the procedure but the payments are going to the balance not the 
device payments themselves.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 11:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>; 
macvisionar...@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: making extra payments on Apple devices



Hello. If you go into Wallet, and choose Apple Card, and then choose the Pay 
button, you are given the option to make a payment before the end of the cycle, 
which for me is the end of the month. I was a little confused the first time I 
saw this screen too. There is a slider control which you can move up or down to 
adjust how much you want to pay. If you flick right, there will be a 
description of the payment. The lowest end is the minimum, then the middle, and 
then the prior month’s balance at the top. This description area changes based 
on where the slider is set. For example, I can set mine where it is almost at 
the top but not all the way there, and be told to “pay a little more”. After 
you have chosen the amount and are satisfied with it, flick right through the 
rest of the text. There will be a final button at the bottom which says 
something like submit payment. You will have to verify with either touch or 
face ID. It is early enough in the month that you could make several payments 
based on your finances and when money is coming in. Apple makes the process of 
making payments very easy. If all this sounded overwhelming, give it a try the 
first few times. The more you do it, I think the more you will like and get 
used to it.



Good luck,

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Hi all:

So if you buy items on the Apple card from Aple and want to make extra 
payments, how do you do it?

When I choose pay it says the extra I pay will go towards the cc balance.

I tried waiting to the CC payment had been made and it said I had no payments 
due. Unfortunately it wouldn’t make a payment because I had pending charges. 
The way my bills are schedule, I always have pending payments.

Ideas?

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Re: making extra payments on Apple devices

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  on behalf of 
sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com 
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 1:39:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: RE: making extra payments on Apple devices


Thanks, what’s getting me is that some of my bills post at the end of the month 
so there is always something pending. If your balance is paid in full you 
cannot make payments towards the device because of those pending charges.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicky 
Collins
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2023 1:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: making extra payments on Apple devices



I'm way behind on email, but since I don't see this link posted yet, I figured 
I would send it. It does have a section that discusses making extra payments on 
installment agreements.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210644

Sent from my iPhone



On Nov 2, 2023, at 6:52 AM, 
sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com<mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com> wrote:



Yeah I know the procedure but the payments are going to the balance not the 
device payments themselves.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Wayne 
Merritt
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 11:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>; 
macvisionar...@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: making extra payments on Apple devices



Hello. If you go into Wallet, and choose Apple Card, and then choose the Pay 
button, you are given the option to make a payment before the end of the cycle, 
which for me is the end of the month. I was a little confused the first time I 
saw this screen too. There is a slider control which you can move up or down to 
adjust how much you want to pay. If you flick right, there will be a 
description of the payment. The lowest end is the minimum, then the middle, and 
then the prior month’s balance at the top. This description area changes based 
on where the slider is set. For example, I can set mine where it is almost at 
the top but not all the way there, and be told to “pay a little more”. After 
you have chosen the amount and are satisfied with it, flick right through the 
rest of the text. There will be a final button at the bottom which says 
something like submit payment. You will have to verify with either touch or 
face ID. It is early enough in the month that you could make several payments 
based on your finances and when money is coming in. Apple makes the process of 
making payments very easy. If all this sounded overwhelming, give it a try the 
first few times. The more you do it, I think the more you will like and get 
used to it.



Good luck,

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Hi all:

So if you buy items on the Apple card from Aple and want to make extra 
payments, how do you do it?

When I choose pay it says the extra I pay will go towards the cc balance.

I tried waiting to the CC payment had been made and it said I had no payments 
due. Unfortunately it wouldn’t make a payment because I had pending charges. 
The way my bills are schedule, I always have pending payments.

Ideas?

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RE: making extra payments on Apple devices

[sarai.bucciarelli]

Thanks, what’s getting me is that some of my bills post at the end of the month 
so there is always something pending. If your balance is paid in full you 
cannot make payments towards the device because of those pending charges.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Vicky 
Collins
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2023 1:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: making extra payments on Apple devices

 

I'm way behind on email, but since I don't see this link posted yet, I figured 
I would send it. It does have a section that discusses making extra payments on 
installment agreements.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210644

Sent from my iPhone





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<mailto:sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com>  wrote:



Yeah I know the procedure but the payments are going to the balance not the 
device payments themselves.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 11:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ; 
macvisionar...@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: making extra payments on Apple devices

 

Hello. If you go into Wallet, and choose Apple Card, and then choose the Pay 
button, you are given the option to make a payment before the end of the cycle, 
which for me is the end of the month. I was a little confused the first time I 
saw this screen too. There is a slider control which you can move up or down to 
adjust how much you want to pay. If you flick right, there will be a 
description of the payment. The lowest end is the minimum, then the middle, and 
then the prior month’s balance at the top. This description area changes based 
on where the slider is set. For example, I can set mine where it is almost at 
the top but not all the way there, and be told to “pay a little more”. After 
you have chosen the amount and are satisfied with it, flick right through the 
rest of the text. There will be a final button at the bottom which says 
something like submit payment. You will have to verify with either touch or 
face ID. It is early enough in the month that you could make several payments 
based on your finances and when money is coming in. Apple makes the process of 
making payments very easy. If all this sounded overwhelming, give it a try the 
first few times. The more you do it, I think the more you will like and get 
used to it.

 

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Hi all:

So if you buy items on the Apple card from Aple and want to make extra 
payments, how do you do it?

When I choose pay it says the extra I pay will go towards the cc balance.

I tried waiting to the CC payment had been made and it said I had no payments 
due. Unfortunately it wouldn’t make a payment because I had pending charges. 
The way my bills are schedule, I always have pending payments.

Ideas?

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Re: making extra payments on Apple devices

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I'm way behind on email, but since I don't see this link posted yet, I figured I would send it. It does have a section that discusses making extra payments on installment agreements.https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210644Sent from my iPhoneOn Nov 2, 2023, at 6:52 AM, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:Yeah I know the procedure but the payments are going to the balance not the device payments themselves. From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Wayne MerrittSent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 11:01 PMTo: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: making extra payments on Apple devices Hello. If you go into Wallet, and choose Apple Card, and then choose the Pay button, you are given the option to make a payment before the end of the cycle, which for me is the end of the month. I was a little confused the first time I saw this screen too. There is a slider control which you can move up or down to adjust how much you want to pay. If you flick right, there will be a description of the payment. The lowest end is the minimum, then the middle, and then the prior month’s balance at the top. This description area changes based on where the slider is set. For example, I can set mine where it is almost at the top but not all the way there, and be told to “pay a little more”. After you have chosen the amount and are satisfied with it, flick right through the rest of the text. There will be a final button at the bottom which says something like submit payment. You will have to verify with either touch or face ID. It is early enough in the month that you could make several payments based on your finances and when money is coming in. Apple makes the process of making payments very easy. If all this sounded overwhelming, give it a try the first few times. The more you do it, I think the more you will like and get used to it. Good luck,Wayne Merritt---Sent from Workspace ONE BoxerOn November 1, 2023 at 8:53:43 PM CDT, sarai.bucciare...@gmail.com wrote:Hi all:So if you buy items on the Apple card from Aple and want to make extra payments, how do you do it?When I choose pay it says the extra I pay will go towards the cc balance.I tried waiting to the CC payment had been made and it said I had no payments due. Unfortunately it wouldn’t make a payment because I had pending charges. The way my bills are schedule, I always have pending payments.Ideas?-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/006701da0d2f%2466247420%24326d5c60%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/63886295-CDA0-406A-8E27-7EC558E46968%40gmail.com.



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Re: making extra payments on Apple devices

[Kay Malmquist]

There is also an option in there to type in your amount.  This is a good 
thing because often I don't like what the slider comes up with.  If you know 
of a way to define this more, that would be good, but for now, I will enter 
things in manually.

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  Subject: Re: making extra payments on Apple devices


  Hello. If you go into Wallet, and choose Apple Card, and then choose the 
Pay button, you are given the option to make a payment before the end of the 
cycle, which for me is the end of the month. I was a little confused the 
first time I saw this screen too. There is a slider control which you can 
move up or down to adjust how much you want to pay. If you flick right, 
there will be a description of the payment. The lowest end is the minimum, 
then the middle, and then the prior month’s balance at the top. This 
description area changes based on where the slider is set. For example, I 
can set mine where it is almost at the top but not all the way there, and be 
told to “pay a little more”. After you have chosen the amount and are 
satisfied with it, flick right through the rest of the text. There will be a 
final button at the bottom which says something like submit payment. You 
will have to verify with either touch or face ID. It is early enough in the 
month that you could make several payments based on your finances and when 
money is coming in. Apple makes the process of making payments very easy. If 
all this sounded overwhelming, give it a try the first few times. The more 
you do it, I think the more you will like and get used to it.


  Good luck,
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Hi all:

So if you buy items on the Apple card from Aple and want to make extra 
payments, how do you do it?

When I choose pay it says the extra I pay will go towards the cc 
balance.

I tried waiting to the CC payment had been made and it said I had no 
payments due. Unfortunately it wouldn’t make a payment because I had pending 
charges. The way my bills are schedule, I always have pending payments.

Ideas?


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RE: making extra payments on Apple devices

[sarai.bucciarelli]

Yeah I know the procedure but the payments are going to the balance not the 
device payments themselves.

 

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Merritt
Sent: Wednesday, November 1, 2023 11:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; macvisionar...@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: making extra payments on Apple devices

 

Hello. If you go into Wallet, and choose Apple Card, and then choose the Pay 
button, you are given the option to make a payment before the end of the cycle, 
which for me is the end of the month. I was a little confused the first time I 
saw this screen too. There is a slider control which you can move up or down to 
adjust how much you want to pay. If you flick right, there will be a 
description of the payment. The lowest end is the minimum, then the middle, and 
then the prior month’s balance at the top. This description area changes based 
on where the slider is set. For example, I can set mine where it is almost at 
the top but not all the way there, and be told to “pay a little more”. After 
you have chosen the amount and are satisfied with it, flick right through the 
rest of the text. There will be a final button at the bottom which says 
something like submit payment. You will have to verify with either touch or 
face ID. It is early enough in the month that you could make several payments 
based on your finances and when money is coming in. Apple makes the process of 
making payments very easy. If all this sounded overwhelming, give it a try the 
first few times. The more you do it, I think the more you will like and get 
used to it.

 

Good luck,

Wayne Merritt


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Hi all:

So if you buy items on the Apple card from Aple and want to make extra 
payments, how do you do it?

When I choose pay it says the extra I pay will go towards the cc balance.

I tried waiting to the CC payment had been made and it said I had no payments 
due. Unfortunately it wouldn’t make a payment because I had pending charges. 
The way my bills are schedule, I always have pending payments.

Ideas?

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Re: making extra payments on Apple devices

[Wayne Merritt]

Hello. If you go into Wallet, and choose Apple Card, and then choose the Pay 
button, you are given the option to make a payment before the end of the cycle, 
which for me is the end of the month. I was a little confused the first time I 
saw this screen too. There is a slider control which you can move up or down to 
adjust how much you want to pay. If you flick right, there will be a 
description of the payment. The lowest end is the minimum, then the middle, and 
then the prior month’s balance at the top. This description area changes based 
on where the slider is set. For example, I can set mine where it is almost at 
the top but not all the way there, and be told to “pay a little more”. After 
you have chosen the amount and are satisfied with it, flick right through the 
rest of the text. There will be a final button at the bottom which says 
something like submit payment. You will have to verify with either touch or 
face ID. It is early enough in the month that you could make several payments 
based on your finances and when money is coming in. Apple makes the process of 
making payments very easy. If all this sounded overwhelming, give it a try the 
first few times. The more you do it, I think the more you will like and get 
used to it.

Good luck,
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Hi all:
So if you buy items on the Apple card from Aple and want to make extra 
payments, how do you do it?
When I choose pay it says the extra I pay will go towards the cc balance.
I tried waiting to the CC payment had been made and it said I had no payments 
due. Unfortunately it wouldn’t make a payment because I had pending charges. 
The way my bills are schedule, I always have pending payments.
Ideas?
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making extra payments on Apple devices

[sarai.bucciarelli]

Hi all:

So if you buy items on the Apple card from Aple and want to make extra
payments, how do you do it?

When I choose pay it says the extra I pay will go towards the cc balance.

I tried waiting to the CC payment had been made and it said I had no
payments due. Unfortunately it wouldn't make a payment because I had pending
charges. The way my bills are schedule, I always have pending payments.

Ideas?

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Re: Have any hearing aid users here successfully paired two MFi hearing devices on an iPhone?

[Flor Lynch]

Re: Have any hearing aid users here successfully paired two MFi hearing 
devices on an iPhone?

Thanks for that answer, Richard.

I'm hoping to get my PA (personal assistant) ON THE PHONE TO MY 
AUDIOLOGIST (OR a colleague team member -  WHEN HE ASSISTS ME NEXT WEEK.


I think my iPhone sees both my hearing aid and my CI, but it won't pair 
with both of them at the same time. (It pairs with one or the other).


The 'nuclear option' is to forget perhaps all of one's other Bluetooth 
devices' settings, and then forget your hearing devices, before turning 
off/restarting
Bluetooth, and one 'should' then receive - when next trying to pair 
one's hearing devices - two pairing requests. (I'm not looking forward 
to that!)


On 9/30/2023 3:49 PM, Richard wrote:

I tried a few years ago and needed an audiologist to help with setup. At that 
time my  experience was disappointing. Each time the Bluetooth connection 
activated for the hearing aids--which was often every few seconds--there were 
annoying spurious beeps. I called tech support for the hearing aid producer 
although they had no resolution. Neither did Apple support. Apparently there 
aren't enough hearing aide users who also use VoiceOver. They didn't seem to 
have any sense of urgency to resolve the problem. Aggravating!

I will try again in the next few weeks and I will report what I learn.

Richard Petty
richard.pe...@earthlink.net


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Subject: Have any hearing aid users here successfully paired two MFi hearing 
devices on an iPhone?

Hi,

Has anybody on this list successfuly added another hearing aid or device
to an existing one on their iPhone, without the help of an audiological
professional?
(If so, how did you do this? Did you need to forget all your Bluetooth
devices and then turn off Bluetooth, and then turn on Bluetooth again
and add in
your new hearing aid or aids this way?

Thanks.




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RE: Have any hearing aid users here successfully paired two MFi hearing devices on an iPhone?

[Richard]

I tried a few years ago and needed an audiologist to help with setup. At that 
time my  experience was disappointing. Each time the Bluetooth connection 
activated for the hearing aids--which was often every few seconds--there were 
annoying spurious beeps. I called tech support for the hearing aid producer 
although they had no resolution. Neither did Apple support. Apparently there 
aren't enough hearing aide users who also use VoiceOver. They didn't seem to 
have any sense of urgency to resolve the problem. Aggravating!

I will try again in the next few weeks and I will report what I learn.

Richard Petty
richard.pe...@earthlink.net


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Lynch
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Subject: Have any hearing aid users here successfully paired two MFi hearing 
devices on an iPhone?

Hi,

Has anybody on this list successfuly added another hearing aid or device 
to an existing one on their iPhone, without the help of an audiological 
professional?
(If so, how did you do this? Did you need to forget all your Bluetooth 
devices and then turn off Bluetooth, and then turn on Bluetooth again 
and add in
your new hearing aid or aids this way?

Thanks.


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Have any hearing aid users here successfully paired two MFi hearing devices on an iPhone?

[Flor Lynch]

Hi,

Has anybody on this list successfuly added another hearing aid or device 
to an existing one on their iPhone, without the help of an audiological 
professional?
(If so, how did you do this? Did you need to forget all your Bluetooth 
devices and then turn off Bluetooth, and then turn on Bluetooth again 
and add in

your new hearing aid or aids this way?

Thanks.


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Re: Any IOS devices getting warm after 16.6

[joseph hudson]

I know for me, that I find it happen in one of my first put it on to charge at 
night. Period and no, I have not rebooted my device to device reboot self.

> On Aug 21, 2023, at 4:59 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
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> First of all, after an update there might be stuff going on in the background 
> for a day or two which may make it seem like more battery is used and the 
> heat thing could very well be connected.
> Secondly, have you turned off your device for a few minutes after the update 
> and then powered it on again? I occasionally have noticed that my device was 
> abnormally warm and often turning it off for a couple of minutes and then 
> back on took carre of this.
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> Updated to 16.6 from 16.2 recently. 
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RE: Any IOS devices getting warm after 16.6

[Sieghard Weitzel]

First of all, after an update there might be stuff going on in the background 
for a day or two which may make it seem like more battery is used and the heat 
thing could very well be connected.
Secondly, have you turned off your device for a few minutes after the update 
and then powered it on again? I occasionally have noticed that my device was 
abnormally warm and often turning it off for a couple of minutes and then back 
on took carre of this.

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Hi all

iPhone XR and iPad 6gen

Updated to 16.6 from 16.2 recently.

No bugs so far but have noticed with 16.6 devices seem to get warm. Not to the 
point of scorching hot but slightly warm. Has anyone else seem such behavior 
running 16.6
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RE: Any IOS devices getting warm after 16.6

[michv]

Hi yes I am running the latest update on a I phone 8. And I have found this. 
From Mich.

 

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Hi all 

 

iPhone XR and iPad 6gen 

 

Updated to 16.6 from 16.2 recently. 

 

No bugs so far but have noticed with 16.6 devices seem to get warm. Not to the 
point of scorching hot but slightly warm. Has anyone else seem such behavior 
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Re: Any IOS devices getting warm after 16.6

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I've noticed this on my iPhone 14.

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Any IOS devices getting warm after 16.6

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Hi all 

iPhone XR and iPad 6gen 

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Re: Syncing Overcast between devices?

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Yes, Overcast syncs perfectly between devices, and because it uses its own sync method, the podcasts don't take up space in your iCloud account.Best,AnnaSent from my iPhoneOn Aug 11, 2023, at 3:04 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:Awesome! Thanks for the tip! This will avoid having to go into Overcast on my iPad and subscribe again; as well as being able to sync between iPhone and IPad. Like now, my iPhone here is at 7% battery, thus I'd be able to from my iPad continue from where I left off on my phone said podcast. Thanks again for the info!GeraEnviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de TelcelEl 11 ago 2023, a la(s) 12:03 p.m., Jonathan Cohn  escribió:This app does not use iCloud for thinking, but instead uses its own set of protocol. When you open the settings menu the third or fourth item is SYNC need to tap this where you will be prompted for username and password. This would need to be the SYNC need to tap this where you were gonna be prompted for your username and password. This would need to be the same between your phone and your iPad. Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 11, 2023, at 11:17 AM, joseph hudson  wrote:So I think, since you're using the same Apple ID, your overcast data should sync over to your iPad as long as you're signed into it with the same Apple ID.
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Re: Syncing Overcast between devices?

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Awesome! Thanks for the tip! This will avoid having to go into Overcast on my iPad and subscribe again; as well as being able to sync between iPhone and IPad. Like now, my iPhone here is at 7% battery, thus I'd be able to from my iPad continue from where I left off on my phone said podcast. Thanks again for the info!GeraEnviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de TelcelEl 11 ago 2023, a la(s) 12:03 p.m., Jonathan Cohn  escribió:This app does not use iCloud for thinking, but instead uses its own set of protocol. When you open the settings menu the third or fourth item is SYNC need to tap this where you will be prompted for username and password. This would need to be the SYNC need to tap this where you were gonna be prompted for your username and password. This would need to be the same between your phone and your iPad. Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 11, 2023, at 11:17 AM, joseph hudson  wrote:So I think, since you're using the same Apple ID, your overcast data should sync over to your iPad as long as you're signed into it with the same Apple ID.
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On Aug 11, 2023, at 8:59 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:Apart from a scortching "Hola" from Mexico, and appreciating beforehand the help... I recently acquired an iPad 9th Generation, on which I'd like to put Overcast on it; so I'm charging the phone, and want to continue listening to a podcast previously started on the iPhone, on my iPad, right? I've got "Overcast" the free version, dus hoping what I'm wanting can be done. So my question is, how would I be able to sync (like you can with Tune-in or IHeart Radio, or AcuRadio), so that the Ipad will know (in this the case of Overcast), to what podcasts I'm subscribed to, thus allowing me to continue listening to these across devices?Thanks in advance for any help on this matter. And by the way, my new toy is awesome! Great sound overall, and (after only having had it 2-3 days) I thought it was going to be harder to get it going and doing all I've done with it!GeraEnviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/748E0CCF-CF53-4593-AD38-019E2AD4DC41%40gmail.com.



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Re: Syncing Overcast between devices?

[Jonathan Cohn]

This app does not use iCloud for thinking, but instead uses its own set of protocol. When you open the settings menu the third or fourth item is SYNC need to tap this where you will be prompted for username and password. This would need to be the SYNC need to tap this where you were gonna be prompted for your username and password. This would need to be the same between your phone and your iPad. Sent from my iPhoneOn Aug 11, 2023, at 11:17 AM, joseph hudson  wrote:So I think, since you're using the same Apple ID, your overcast data should sync over to your iPad as long as you're signed into it with the same Apple ID.
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On Aug 11, 2023, at 8:59 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:Apart from a scortching "Hola" from Mexico, and appreciating beforehand the help... I recently acquired an iPad 9th Generation, on which I'd like to put Overcast on it; so I'm charging the phone, and want to continue listening to a podcast previously started on the iPhone, on my iPad, right? I've got "Overcast" the free version, dus hoping what I'm wanting can be done. So my question is, how would I be able to sync (like you can with Tune-in or IHeart Radio, or AcuRadio), so that the Ipad will know (in this the case of Overcast), to what podcasts I'm subscribed to, thus allowing me to continue listening to these across devices?Thanks in advance for any help on this matter. And by the way, my new toy is awesome! Great sound overall, and (after only having had it 2-3 days) I thought it was going to be harder to get it going and doing all I've done with it!GeraEnviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/748E0CCF-CF53-4593-AD38-019E2AD4DC41%40gmail.com.



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Re: Syncing Overcast between devices?

[joseph hudson]

So I think, since you're using the same Apple ID, your overcast data should 
sync over to your iPad as long as you're signed into it with the same Apple ID.
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> On Aug 11, 2023, at 8:59 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> Apart from a scortching "Hola" from Mexico, and appreciating beforehand the 
> help... I recently acquired an iPad 9th Generation, on which I'd like to put 
> Overcast on it; so I'm charging the phone, and want to continue listening to 
> a podcast previously started on the iPhone, on my iPad, right? I've got 
> "Overcast" the free version, dus hoping what I'm wanting can be done. So my 
> question is, how would I be able to sync (like you can with Tune-in or IHeart 
> Radio, or AcuRadio), so that the Ipad will know (in this the case of 
> Overcast), to what podcasts I'm subscribed to, thus allowing me to continue 
> listening to these across devices?
> Thanks in advance for any help on this matter. And by the way, my new toy is 
> awesome! Great sound overall, and (after only having had it 2-3 days) I 
> thought it was going to be harder to get it going and doing all I've done 
> with it!
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
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Re: Syncing Overcast between devices?

[Richard Turner]

Under Settings, There is a feedback option.  Marco runs Overcast on his own, 
but I know he reads all feedback and questions.  I suggest you write him 
directly at:
feedb...@overcast.fm



Richard, USA 
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(Sent from my iPhone)

> On Aug 11, 2023, at 7:00 AM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:
> 
> Apart from a scortching "Hola" from Mexico, and appreciating beforehand the 
> help... I recently acquired an iPad 9th Generation, on which I'd like to put 
> Overcast on it; so I'm charging the phone, and want to continue listening to 
> a podcast previously started on the iPhone, on my iPad, right? I've got 
> "Overcast" the free version, dus hoping what I'm wanting can be done. So my 
> question is, how would I be able to sync (like you can with Tune-in or IHeart 
> Radio, or AcuRadio), so that the Ipad will know (in this the case of 
> Overcast), to what podcasts I'm subscribed to, thus allowing me to continue 
> listening to these across devices?
> Thanks in advance for any help on this matter. And by the way, my new toy is 
> awesome! Great sound overall, and (after only having had it 2-3 days) I 
> thought it was going to be harder to get it going and doing all I've done 
> with it!
> 
> Gera
> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
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Syncing Overcast between devices?

[Gerardo Corripio]

Apart from a scortching "Hola" from Mexico, and appreciating beforehand the 
help... I recently acquired an iPad 9th Generation, on which I'd like to put 
Overcast on it; so I'm charging the phone, and want to continue listening to a 
podcast previously started on the iPhone, on my iPad, right? I've got 
"Overcast" the free version, dus hoping what I'm wanting can be done. So my 
question is, how would I be able to sync (like you can with Tune-in or IHeart 
Radio, or AcuRadio), so that the Ipad will know (in this the case of Overcast), 
to what podcasts I'm subscribed to, thus allowing me to continue listening to 
these across devices?
Thanks in advance for any help on this matter. And by the way, my new toy is 
awesome! Great sound overall, and (after only having had it 2-3 days) I thought 
it was going to be harder to get it going and doing all I've done with it!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel

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Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

['Angie Nutt' via VIPhone]

Not sure I agree it’s petty as it decreases efficiency if one is dependent on 
braille. I do agree though with those who say there is no such thing as bug 
free software.

All the best
Angie

> On 24 May 2023, at 00:17, Jennie Facer  wrote:
> 
> Well said, Scott!!
> 
> There is always something to gripe about. No software is going to be bug 
> free, and this is a small thing, because for the most part, there are 
> workarounds. I could see getting upset if they took accessibility away from 
> us permanently, but this is petty. Come on, now. We all have our thoughts, 
> and I’m not trying to change yours, Davy, but just be thankful for what you 
> have and not so demanding.
> 
> Jenn
> Jenn and Kumi 
> 
>> On May 23, 2023, at 12:56 PM, Scott Davert  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> It's a pretty serious bug when you don't have the luxury of audio
>> books or listening with speech.
>> That said, Davy, I encourage you to try reading a book on Android, any
>> version of the OS, and tell me why Apple's feature which worked pretty
>> well is somehow less sue worthy than Android. What about Samsung?
>> Their phones don't appear to be working with the new itteration of
>> TalkBack's braille support. Their watches have 0 braille support.
>> Also, why depend on America to do that? You have an EU counterpart,
>> right? Or am I misunderstanding the purposes behind the European Blind
>> Union? Here's an ignerant American making suggestions
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>> On 5/23/23, davycupp...@gmail.com  wrote:
>>> Sieghard it is an overall braille bug just check the forums on Applevis.
>>> 
>>> Davy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Sieghard
>>> Weitzel
>>> Verzonden: dinsdag 23 mei 2023 6:55
>>> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Onderwerp: RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT
>>> UPDATE to ios16.5
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'd be interested in what exactly these iOS 16 bugs are you mention. At this
>>> point iOS 16 is about as mature as it will get with as few issues as iOS 15.
>>> Just today the iOS 16.6 public beta was released and it is likely that iOS
>>> 16.6 will be the final version of iOS 16, there may of course be several
>>> third level updates, e.g. there will be iOS 16.6, there may be iOS 16.6.1,
>>> iOS 16.6.2 etc., but in two weeks iOS 17 will be introduced at WWDC, by late
>>> June or early July the first iOS 17 public beta will be out and in September
>>> as always iOS 17 will be released for the masses. I personally can't see a
>>> single reason why one should avoid iOS 16 at this time and the bug Davy
>>> described is I assume not an iOS 16 bug but a Facebook bug.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
>>> Michael Irons
>>> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 6:14 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT
>>> UPDATE to ios16.5
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I did not even get iOS 16 because all of the problems people kept talking
>>> about I’m still hanging back on the latest version of iOS 15.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 22, 2023, at 1:51 PM, Anna Dresner >> <mailto:wadres...@att.net> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything
>>> works fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page opens normally,
>>> but once it does, all four thumb keys on my braille display stop working. I
>>> hear a thunk sound when I press one, and nothing changes on the display. If
>>> I press Home, I am unable to navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting
>>> VoiceOver is the only way I have found to fix the problem. After that,
>>> panning works fine until I try to use Kindle or voice dream Reader again.
>>> Apple Books works fine. Are these the same problems the rest of you are
>>> seeing?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the problem
>>> remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Anna
>>>

Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

[Jennie Facer]

Well said, Scott!!

There is always something to gripe about. No software is going to be bug free, 
and this is a small thing, because for the most part, there are workarounds. I 
could see getting upset if they took accessibility away from us permanently, 
but this is petty. Come on, now. We all have our thoughts, and I’m not trying 
to change yours, Davy, but just be thankful for what you have and not so 
demanding.

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi   

> On May 23, 2023, at 12:56 PM, Scott Davert  wrote:
> 
> Hi all.
> It's a pretty serious bug when you don't have the luxury of audio
> books or listening with speech.
> That said, Davy, I encourage you to try reading a book on Android, any
> version of the OS, and tell me why Apple's feature which worked pretty
> well is somehow less sue worthy than Android. What about Samsung?
> Their phones don't appear to be working with the new itteration of
> TalkBack's braille support. Their watches have 0 braille support.
> Also, why depend on America to do that? You have an EU counterpart,
> right? Or am I misunderstanding the purposes behind the European Blind
> Union? Here's an ignerant American making suggestions
> 
> Scott
> 
> On 5/23/23, davycupp...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> Sieghard it is an overall braille bug just check the forums on Applevis.
>> 
>> Davy
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Sieghard
>> Weitzel
>> Verzonden: dinsdag 23 mei 2023 6:55
>> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Onderwerp: RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT
>> UPDATE to ios16.5
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I'd be interested in what exactly these iOS 16 bugs are you mention. At this
>> point iOS 16 is about as mature as it will get with as few issues as iOS 15.
>> Just today the iOS 16.6 public beta was released and it is likely that iOS
>> 16.6 will be the final version of iOS 16, there may of course be several
>> third level updates, e.g. there will be iOS 16.6, there may be iOS 16.6.1,
>> iOS 16.6.2 etc., but in two weeks iOS 17 will be introduced at WWDC, by late
>> June or early July the first iOS 17 public beta will be out and in September
>> as always iOS 17 will be released for the masses. I personally can't see a
>> single reason why one should avoid iOS 16 at this time and the bug Davy
>> described is I assume not an iOS 16 bug but a Facebook bug.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
>> Michael Irons
>> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 6:14 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT
>> UPDATE to ios16.5
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I did not even get iOS 16 because all of the problems people kept talking
>> about I’m still hanging back on the latest version of iOS 15.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 22, 2023, at 1:51 PM, Anna Dresner > <mailto:wadres...@att.net> > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything
>> works fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page opens normally,
>> but once it does, all four thumb keys on my braille display stop working. I
>> hear a thunk sound when I press one, and nothing changes on the display. If
>> I press Home, I am unable to navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting
>> VoiceOver is the only way I have found to fix the problem. After that,
>> panning works fine until I try to use Kindle or voice dream Reader again.
>> Apple Books works fine. Are these the same problems the rest of you are
>> seeing?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the problem
>> remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 22, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Devin Prater > <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Yep, that’s it.
>> 
>> Devin Prater
>> 
>> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com>
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Https://devinprater.micro.blog
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 22, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Scott Davert > <mailto:scottslistm...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hello.
>> I'm currently using a Focus 14, but have also used a Brailliant BI
>> 

RE: new tremendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

[Dennis Long]

I completely agree with you Scott.  Apple still has the best accessibility.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Scott 
Davert
Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2023 2:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT 
UPDATE to ios16.5

Hi all.
It's a pretty serious bug when you don't have the luxury of audio books or 
listening with speech.
That said, Davy, I encourage you to try reading a book on Android, any version 
of the OS, and tell me why Apple's feature which worked pretty well is somehow 
less sue worthy than Android. What about Samsung?
Their phones don't appear to be working with the new itteration of TalkBack's 
braille support. Their watches have 0 braille support.
Also, why depend on America to do that? You have an EU counterpart, right? Or 
am I misunderstanding the purposes behind the European Blind Union? Here's an 
ignerant American making suggestions

Scott

On 5/23/23, davycupp...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Sieghard it is an overall braille bug just check the forums on Applevis.
>
> Davy
>
>
>
> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Verzonden: dinsdag 23 mei 2023 6:55
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices 
> DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5
>
>
>
> I'd be interested in what exactly these iOS 16 bugs are you mention. 
> At this point iOS 16 is about as mature as it will get with as few issues as 
> iOS 15.
> Just today the iOS 16.6 public beta was released and it is likely that 
> iOS
> 16.6 will be the final version of iOS 16, there may of course be 
> several third level updates, e.g. there will be iOS 16.6, there may be 
> iOS 16.6.1, iOS 16.6.2 etc., but in two weeks iOS 17 will be 
> introduced at WWDC, by late June or early July the first iOS 17 public 
> beta will be out and in September as always iOS 17 will be released 
> for the masses. I personally can't see a single reason why one should 
> avoid iOS 16 at this time and the bug Davy described is I assume not an iOS 
> 16 bug but a Facebook bug.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On 
> Behalf Of Michael Irons
> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 6:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO 
> NOT UPDATE to ios16.5
>
>
>
> I did not even get iOS 16 because all of the problems people kept 
> talking about I’m still hanging back on the latest version of iOS 15.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On May 22, 2023, at 1:51 PM, Anna Dresner  <mailto:wadres...@att.net> > wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where 
> everything works fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page 
> opens normally, but once it does, all four thumb keys on my braille 
> display stop working. I hear a thunk sound when I press one, and 
> nothing changes on the display. If I press Home, I am unable to 
> navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting VoiceOver is the only way I 
> have found to fix the problem. After that, panning works fine until I try to 
> use Kindle or voice dream Reader again.
> Apple Books works fine. Are these the same problems the rest of you 
> are seeing?
>
>
>
> I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the 
> problem remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Anna
>
>
>
>
>
> On May 22, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Devin Prater  <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
>
>
> Yep, that’s it.
>
> Devin Prater
>
> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com>
>
>
>
> Https://devinprater.micro.blog
>
>
>
> On May 22, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Scott Davert  <mailto:scottslistm...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello.
> I'm currently using a Focus 14, but have also used a Brailliant BI 
> 20X. I did not experience general panning issues, but am seeing some 
> problems with the Kindle app. Maybe others are having similar issues 
> and I'm not aware?
>
> Scott
>
> On 5/22/23, davycupp...@gmail.com <mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> 
> mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> Folks
>
> For brail users please do NOT update to ios16.5 and report to Apple 
> accessibility NOW, do it NOW!
>
> The thumb keys of the brail display functioning as panning keys do not 
> work as they should, if you press them, sometimes they do mostly they don't.
>
> This bug has been introduced in ios16.5.

Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

[Devin Prater]

Right. Google Play Books just now got the ability to turn pages when 
TalkBack gets to the end of the current page. As of like a few weeks ago.


On 5/23/2023 1:56 PM, Scott Davert wrote:

Hi all.
It's a pretty serious bug when you don't have the luxury of audio
books or listening with speech.
That said, Davy, I encourage you to try reading a book on Android, any
version of the OS, and tell me why Apple's feature which worked pretty
well is somehow less sue worthy than Android. What about Samsung?
Their phones don't appear to be working with the new itteration of
TalkBack's braille support. Their watches have 0 braille support.
Also, why depend on America to do that? You have an EU counterpart,
right? Or am I misunderstanding the purposes behind the European Blind
Union? Here's an ignerant American making suggestions

Scott

On 5/23/23, davycupp...@gmail.com  wrote:

Sieghard it is an overall braille bug just check the forums on Applevis.

Davy



Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Sieghard
Weitzel
Verzonden: dinsdag 23 mei 2023 6:55
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT
UPDATE to ios16.5



I'd be interested in what exactly these iOS 16 bugs are you mention. At this
point iOS 16 is about as mature as it will get with as few issues as iOS 15.
Just today the iOS 16.6 public beta was released and it is likely that iOS
16.6 will be the final version of iOS 16, there may of course be several
third level updates, e.g. there will be iOS 16.6, there may be iOS 16.6.1,
iOS 16.6.2 etc., but in two weeks iOS 17 will be introduced at WWDC, by late
June or early July the first iOS 17 public beta will be out and in September
as always iOS 17 will be released for the masses. I personally can't see a
single reason why one should avoid iOS 16 at this time and the bug Davy
described is I assume not an iOS 16 bug but a Facebook bug.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
Michael Irons
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 6:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT
UPDATE to ios16.5



I did not even get iOS 16 because all of the problems people kept talking
about I’m still hanging back on the latest version of iOS 15.

Sent from my iPhone



On May 22, 2023, at 1:51 PM, Anna Dresner mailto:wadres...@att.net> > wrote:

Hi,



I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything
works fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page opens normally,
but once it does, all four thumb keys on my braille display stop working. I
hear a thunk sound when I press one, and nothing changes on the display. If
I press Home, I am unable to navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting
VoiceOver is the only way I have found to fix the problem. After that,
panning works fine until I try to use Kindle or voice dream Reader again.
Apple Books works fine. Are these the same problems the rest of you are
seeing?



I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the problem
remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6.



Best,

Anna





On May 22, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Devin Prater mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Yep, that’s it.

Devin Prater

r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com>



Https://devinprater.micro.blog



On May 22, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Scott Davert mailto:scottslistm...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Hello.
I'm currently using a Focus 14, but have also used a Brailliant BI
20X. I did not experience general panning issues, but am seeing some
problems with the Kindle app. Maybe others are having similar issues
and I'm not aware?

Scott

On 5/22/23, davycupp...@gmail.com <mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com>
mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Folks

For brail users please do NOT update to ios16.5 and report to Apple
accessibility NOW, do it NOW!

The thumb keys of the brail display functioning as panning keys do not work
as they should, if you press them, sometimes they do mostly they don't.

This bug has been introduced in ios16.5.
DO COMPLAIN with Apple NW!
Davy

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Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

[Scott Davert]

Hi all.
It's a pretty serious bug when you don't have the luxury of audio
books or listening with speech.
That said, Davy, I encourage you to try reading a book on Android, any
version of the OS, and tell me why Apple's feature which worked pretty
well is somehow less sue worthy than Android. What about Samsung?
Their phones don't appear to be working with the new itteration of
TalkBack's braille support. Their watches have 0 braille support.
Also, why depend on America to do that? You have an EU counterpart,
right? Or am I misunderstanding the purposes behind the European Blind
Union? Here's an ignerant American making suggestions

Scott

On 5/23/23, davycupp...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Sieghard it is an overall braille bug just check the forums on Applevis.
>
> Davy
>
>
>
> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Sieghard
> Weitzel
> Verzonden: dinsdag 23 mei 2023 6:55
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT
> UPDATE to ios16.5
>
>
>
> I'd be interested in what exactly these iOS 16 bugs are you mention. At this
> point iOS 16 is about as mature as it will get with as few issues as iOS 15.
> Just today the iOS 16.6 public beta was released and it is likely that iOS
> 16.6 will be the final version of iOS 16, there may of course be several
> third level updates, e.g. there will be iOS 16.6, there may be iOS 16.6.1,
> iOS 16.6.2 etc., but in two weeks iOS 17 will be introduced at WWDC, by late
> June or early July the first iOS 17 public beta will be out and in September
> as always iOS 17 will be released for the masses. I personally can't see a
> single reason why one should avoid iOS 16 at this time and the bug Davy
> described is I assume not an iOS 16 bug but a Facebook bug.
>
>
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
> Michael Irons
> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 6:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT
> UPDATE to ios16.5
>
>
>
> I did not even get iOS 16 because all of the problems people kept talking
> about I’m still hanging back on the latest version of iOS 15.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
> On May 22, 2023, at 1:51 PM, Anna Dresner  <mailto:wadres...@att.net> > wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything
> works fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page opens normally,
> but once it does, all four thumb keys on my braille display stop working. I
> hear a thunk sound when I press one, and nothing changes on the display. If
> I press Home, I am unable to navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting
> VoiceOver is the only way I have found to fix the problem. After that,
> panning works fine until I try to use Kindle or voice dream Reader again.
> Apple Books works fine. Are these the same problems the rest of you are
> seeing?
>
>
>
> I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the problem
> remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6.
>
>
>
> Best,
>
> Anna
>
>
>
>
>
> On May 22, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Devin Prater  <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
>
>
> Yep, that’s it.
>
> Devin Prater
>
> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com>
>
>
>
> Https://devinprater.micro.blog
>
>
>
> On May 22, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Scott Davert  <mailto:scottslistm...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello.
> I'm currently using a Focus 14, but have also used a Brailliant BI
> 20X. I did not experience general panning issues, but am seeing some
> problems with the Kindle app. Maybe others are having similar issues
> and I'm not aware?
>
> Scott
>
> On 5/22/23, davycupp...@gmail.com <mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com>
> mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> > wrote:
>
> Folks
>
> For brail users please do NOT update to ios16.5 and report to Apple
> accessibility NOW, do it NOW!
>
> The thumb keys of the brail display functioning as panning keys do not work
> as they should, if you press them, sometimes they do mostly they don't.
>
> This bug has been introduced in ios16.5.
> DO COMPLAIN with Apple NW!
> Davy
>
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one workaround RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

[davycuppens]

Hi Sieghard 

 

That is the case, but for all people reading kindle books or have other 
applications blocking when moving tot he next page with the panning keys, press 
space+o to fulfill this task until the bug is fixed.

Davy 

 

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Sieghard Weitzel
Verzonden: dinsdag 23 mei 2023 6:59
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT 
UPDATE to ios16.5

 

Sorry, I lost track of Davy's tremendous bug reports, just realized he is 
talking about an iOS 16.5 braille issue not a facebook issue.

I'm not a braille user so I can't comment on that one.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 9:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT 
UPDATE to ios16.5

 

I'd be interested in what exactly these iOS 16 bugs are you mention. At this 
point iOS 16 is about as mature as it will get with as few issues as iOS 15. 
Just today the iOS 16.6 public beta was released and it is likely that iOS 16.6 
will be the final version of iOS 16, there may of course be several third level 
updates, e.g. there will be iOS 16.6, there may be iOS 16.6.1, iOS 16.6.2 etc., 
but in two weeks iOS 17 will be introduced at WWDC, by late June or early July 
the first iOS 17 public beta will be out and in September as always iOS 17 will 
be released for the masses. I personally can't see a single reason why one 
should avoid iOS 16 at this time and the bug Davy described is I assume not an 
iOS 16 bug but a Facebook bug.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
 On Behalf Of Michael Irons
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 6:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT 
UPDATE to ios16.5

 

I did not even get iOS 16 because all of the problems people kept talking about 
I’m still hanging back on the latest version of iOS 15.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On May 22, 2023, at 1:51 PM, Anna Dresner mailto:wadres...@att.net> > wrote:

Hi,

 

I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything works 
fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page opens normally, but once 
it does, all four thumb keys on my braille display stop working. I hear a thunk 
sound when I press one, and nothing changes on the display. If I press Home, I 
am unable to navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting VoiceOver is the only way 
I have found to fix the problem. After that, panning works fine until I try to 
use Kindle or voice dream Reader again. Apple Books works fine. Are these the 
same problems the rest of you are seeing?

 

I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the problem 
remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

On May 22, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Devin Prater mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Yep, that’s it.

Devin Prater

r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> 

 

Https://devinprater.micro.blog

 

On May 22, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Scott Davert mailto:scottslistm...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello.
I'm currently using a Focus 14, but have also used a Brailliant BI
20X. I did not experience general panning issues, but am seeing some
problems with the Kindle app. Maybe others are having similar issues
and I'm not aware?

Scott

On 5/22/23, davycupp...@gmail.com <mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com>  
mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Folks

For brail users please do NOT update to ios16.5 and report to Apple
accessibility NOW, do it NOW!

The thumb keys of the brail display functioning as panning keys do not work
as they should, if you press them, sometimes they do mostly they don't.

This bug has been introduced in ios16.5.
DO COMPLAIN with Apple NW!
Davy

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RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

[davycuppens]

Sieghard it is an overall braille bug just check the forums on Applevis.

Davy 

 

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Sieghard Weitzel
Verzonden: dinsdag 23 mei 2023 6:55
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT 
UPDATE to ios16.5

 

I'd be interested in what exactly these iOS 16 bugs are you mention. At this 
point iOS 16 is about as mature as it will get with as few issues as iOS 15. 
Just today the iOS 16.6 public beta was released and it is likely that iOS 16.6 
will be the final version of iOS 16, there may of course be several third level 
updates, e.g. there will be iOS 16.6, there may be iOS 16.6.1, iOS 16.6.2 etc., 
but in two weeks iOS 17 will be introduced at WWDC, by late June or early July 
the first iOS 17 public beta will be out and in September as always iOS 17 will 
be released for the masses. I personally can't see a single reason why one 
should avoid iOS 16 at this time and the bug Davy described is I assume not an 
iOS 16 bug but a Facebook bug.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Michael Irons
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 6:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT 
UPDATE to ios16.5

 

I did not even get iOS 16 because all of the problems people kept talking about 
I’m still hanging back on the latest version of iOS 15.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On May 22, 2023, at 1:51 PM, Anna Dresner mailto:wadres...@att.net> > wrote:

Hi,

 

I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything works 
fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page opens normally, but once 
it does, all four thumb keys on my braille display stop working. I hear a thunk 
sound when I press one, and nothing changes on the display. If I press Home, I 
am unable to navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting VoiceOver is the only way 
I have found to fix the problem. After that, panning works fine until I try to 
use Kindle or voice dream Reader again. Apple Books works fine. Are these the 
same problems the rest of you are seeing?

 

I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the problem 
remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

On May 22, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Devin Prater mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Yep, that’s it.

Devin Prater

r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> 

 

Https://devinprater.micro.blog

 

On May 22, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Scott Davert mailto:scottslistm...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello.
I'm currently using a Focus 14, but have also used a Brailliant BI
20X. I did not experience general panning issues, but am seeing some
problems with the Kindle app. Maybe others are having similar issues
and I'm not aware?

Scott

On 5/22/23, davycupp...@gmail.com <mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com>  
mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Folks

For brail users please do NOT update to ios16.5 and report to Apple
accessibility NOW, do it NOW!

The thumb keys of the brail display functioning as panning keys do not work
as they should, if you press them, sometimes they do mostly they don't.

This bug has been introduced in ios16.5.
DO COMPLAIN with Apple NW!
Davy

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RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

There’s still that annoying dictation bug where what you say is often inserted 
twice, but not a show stopper per se.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 9:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT 
UPDATE to ios16.5

 

I'd be interested in what exactly these iOS 16 bugs are you mention. At this 
point iOS 16 is about as mature as it will get with as few issues as iOS 15. 
Just today the iOS 16.6 public beta was released and it is likely that iOS 16.6 
will be the final version of iOS 16, there may of course be several third level 
updates, e.g. there will be iOS 16.6, there may be iOS 16.6.1, iOS 16.6.2 etc., 
but in two weeks iOS 17 will be introduced at WWDC, by late June or early July 
the first iOS 17 public beta will be out and in September as always iOS 17 will 
be released for the masses. I personally can't see a single reason why one 
should avoid iOS 16 at this time and the bug Davy described is I assume not an 
iOS 16 bug but a Facebook bug.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Michael Irons
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 6:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT 
UPDATE to ios16.5

 

I did not even get iOS 16 because all of the problems people kept talking about 
I’m still hanging back on the latest version of iOS 15.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On May 22, 2023, at 1:51 PM, Anna Dresner mailto:wadres...@att.net> > wrote:

Hi,

 

I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything works 
fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page opens normally, but once 
it does, all four thumb keys on my braille display stop working. I hear a thunk 
sound when I press one, and nothing changes on the display. If I press Home, I 
am unable to navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting VoiceOver is the only way 
I have found to fix the problem. After that, panning works fine until I try to 
use Kindle or voice dream Reader again. Apple Books works fine. Are these the 
same problems the rest of you are seeing?

 

I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the problem 
remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

On May 22, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Devin Prater mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Yep, that’s it.

Devin Prater

r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> 

 

Https://devinprater.micro.blog

 

On May 22, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Scott Davert mailto:scottslistm...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello.
I'm currently using a Focus 14, but have also used a Brailliant BI
20X. I did not experience general panning issues, but am seeing some
problems with the Kindle app. Maybe others are having similar issues
and I'm not aware?

Scott

On 5/22/23, davycupp...@gmail.com <mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com>  
mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Folks

For brail users please do NOT update to ios16.5 and report to Apple
accessibility NOW, do it NOW!

The thumb keys of the brail display functioning as panning keys do not work
as they should, if you press them, sometimes they do mostly they don't.

This bug has been introduced in ios16.5.
DO COMPLAIN with Apple NW!
Davy

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Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I don't use a braille display with my iPhone by choice, although, if I
wanted, I could use my BI40X display.  It is very common to have
braille bugs when an update for IOS comes out.  This is nothing new
and shouldn't surprise anyone.  I strongly urge anyone who isn't
updated to  IOS 16, to do so.  There are certain apps, like audible
for example, that need and want you to update to the latest version of
IOS to work properly.  Good luck.

On 5/22/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Sorry, I lost track of Davy's tremendous bug reports, just realized he is
> talking about an iOS 16.5 braille issue not a facebook issue.
> I'm not a braille user so I can't comment on that one.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 9:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT
> UPDATE to ios16.5
>
> I'd be interested in what exactly these iOS 16 bugs are you mention. At this
> point iOS 16 is about as mature as it will get with as few issues as iOS 15.
> Just today the iOS 16.6 public beta was released and it is likely that iOS
> 16.6 will be the final version of iOS 16, there may of course be several
> third level updates, e.g. there will be iOS 16.6, there may be iOS 16.6.1,
> iOS 16.6.2 etc., but in two weeks iOS 17 will be introduced at WWDC, by late
> June or early July the first iOS 17 public beta will be out and in September
> as always iOS 17 will be released for the masses. I personally can't see a
> single reason why one should avoid iOS 16 at this time and the bug Davy
> described is I assume not an iOS 16 bug but a Facebook bug.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Michael Irons
> Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 6:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT
> UPDATE to ios16.5
>
> I did not even get iOS 16 because all of the problems people kept talking
> about I’m still hanging back on the latest version of iOS 15.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On May 22, 2023, at 1:51 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything
> works fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page opens normally,
> but once it does, all four thumb keys on my braille display stop working. I
> hear a thunk sound when I press one, and nothing changes on the display. If
> I press Home, I am unable to navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting
> VoiceOver is the only way I have found to fix the problem. After that,
> panning works fine until I try to use Kindle or voice dream Reader again.
> Apple Books works fine. Are these the same problems the rest of you are
> seeing?
>
> I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the problem
> remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
>
> On May 22, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>
> Yep, that’s it.
> Devin Prater
> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
>
> Https://devinprater.micro.blog
>
> On May 22, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Scott Davert 
> wrote:
>
> Hello.
> I'm currently using a Focus 14, but have also used a Brailliant BI
> 20X. I did not experience general panning issues, but am seeing some
> problems with the Kindle app. Maybe others are having similar issues
> and I'm not aware?
>
> Scott
>
> On 5/22/23, davycupp...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Folks
>
> For brail users please do NOT update to ios16.5 and report to Apple
> accessibility NOW, do it NOW!
>
> The thumb keys of the brail display functioning as panning keys do not work
> as they should, if you press them, sometimes they do mostly they don't.
>
> This bug has been introduced in ios16.5.
> DO COMPLAIN with Apple NW!
> Davy
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RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Sorry, I lost track of Davy's tremendous bug reports, just realized he is 
talking about an iOS 16.5 braille issue not a facebook issue.
I'm not a braille user so I can't comment on that one.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 9:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT 
UPDATE to ios16.5

I'd be interested in what exactly these iOS 16 bugs are you mention. At this 
point iOS 16 is about as mature as it will get with as few issues as iOS 15. 
Just today the iOS 16.6 public beta was released and it is likely that iOS 16.6 
will be the final version of iOS 16, there may of course be several third level 
updates, e.g. there will be iOS 16.6, there may be iOS 16.6.1, iOS 16.6.2 etc., 
but in two weeks iOS 17 will be introduced at WWDC, by late June or early July 
the first iOS 17 public beta will be out and in September as always iOS 17 will 
be released for the masses. I personally can't see a single reason why one 
should avoid iOS 16 at this time and the bug Davy described is I assume not an 
iOS 16 bug but a Facebook bug.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Irons
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 6:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT 
UPDATE to ios16.5

I did not even get iOS 16 because all of the problems people kept talking about 
I’m still hanging back on the latest version of iOS 15.
Sent from my iPhone

On May 22, 2023, at 1:51 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
Hi,

I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything works 
fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page opens normally, but once 
it does, all four thumb keys on my braille display stop working. I hear a thunk 
sound when I press one, and nothing changes on the display. If I press Home, I 
am unable to navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting VoiceOver is the only way 
I have found to fix the problem. After that, panning works fine until I try to 
use Kindle or voice dream Reader again. Apple Books works fine. Are these the 
same problems the rest of you are seeing?

I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the problem 
remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6.

Best,
Anna


On May 22, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:

Yep, that’s it.
Devin Prater
r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com

Https://devinprater.micro.blog

On May 22, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Scott Davert  wrote:

Hello.
I'm currently using a Focus 14, but have also used a Brailliant BI
20X. I did not experience general panning issues, but am seeing some
problems with the Kindle app. Maybe others are having similar issues
and I'm not aware?

Scott

On 5/22/23, davycupp...@gmail.com  wrote:
Folks

For brail users please do NOT update to ios16.5 and report to Apple
accessibility NOW, do it NOW!

The thumb keys of the brail display functioning as panning keys do not work
as they should, if you press them, sometimes they do mostly they don't.

This bug has been introduced in ios16.5.
DO COMPLAIN with Apple NW!
Davy

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RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Might be time to give Android a try.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
davycupp...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 1:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT 
UPDATE to ios16.5

And for all US citizens, report tot he federation of the blind maybe their 
lawyers can send some legal letters to Apple or start some legal action.
I am fed up wit all those nasty bugs!
Apple must stop making publicity fort heir accessibilitiy enhancements in ios17 
if they are not even able to solve the now ongoing bugs like this bug and the 
dictation inconveniences!
Davy

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Richard Turner
Verzonden: maandag 22 mei 2023 21:08
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT 
UPDATE to ios16.5

You may also want to alert the Voice Dream Reader folks in case they can do 
something about it. supp...@voicedream.com<mailto:supp...@voicedream.com>



Richard, USA.
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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com


On May 22, 2023, at 11:51 AM, Anna Dresner 
mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:
Hi,

I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything works 
fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page opens normally, but once 
it does, all four thumb keys on my braille display stop working. I hear a thunk 
sound when I press one, and nothing changes on the display. If I press Home, I 
am unable to navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting VoiceOver is the only way 
I have found to fix the problem. After that, panning works fine until I try to 
use Kindle or voice dream Reader again. Apple Books works fine. Are these the 
same problems the rest of you are seeing?

I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the problem 
remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6.

Best,
Anna


On May 22, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Devin Prater 
mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Yep, that’s it.
Devin Prater
r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com<mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com>

Https://devinprater.micro.blog

On May 22, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Scott Davert 
mailto:scottslistm...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello.
I'm currently using a Focus 14, but have also used a Brailliant BI
20X. I did not experience general panning issues, but am seeing some
problems with the Kindle app. Maybe others are having similar issues
and I'm not aware?

Scott

On 5/22/23, davycupp...@gmail.com<mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> 
mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Folks

For brail users please do NOT update to ios16.5 and report to Apple
accessibility NOW, do it NOW!

The thumb keys of the brail display functioning as panning keys do not work
as they should, if you press them, sometimes they do mostly they don't.

This bug has been introduced in ios16.5.
DO COMPLAIN with Apple NW!
Davy

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RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I'd be interested in what exactly these iOS 16 bugs are you mention. At this 
point iOS 16 is about as mature as it will get with as few issues as iOS 15. 
Just today the iOS 16.6 public beta was released and it is likely that iOS 16.6 
will be the final version of iOS 16, there may of course be several third level 
updates, e.g. there will be iOS 16.6, there may be iOS 16.6.1, iOS 16.6.2 etc., 
but in two weeks iOS 17 will be introduced at WWDC, by late June or early July 
the first iOS 17 public beta will be out and in September as always iOS 17 will 
be released for the masses. I personally can't see a single reason why one 
should avoid iOS 16 at this time and the bug Davy described is I assume not an 
iOS 16 bug but a Facebook bug.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Irons
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 6:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT 
UPDATE to ios16.5

I did not even get iOS 16 because all of the problems people kept talking about 
I’m still hanging back on the latest version of iOS 15.
Sent from my iPhone


On May 22, 2023, at 1:51 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
Hi,

I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything works 
fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page opens normally, but once 
it does, all four thumb keys on my braille display stop working. I hear a thunk 
sound when I press one, and nothing changes on the display. If I press Home, I 
am unable to navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting VoiceOver is the only way 
I have found to fix the problem. After that, panning works fine until I try to 
use Kindle or voice dream Reader again. Apple Books works fine. Are these the 
same problems the rest of you are seeing?

I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the problem 
remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6.

Best,
Anna



On May 22, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:

Yep, that’s it.
Devin Prater
r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com

Https://devinprater.micro.blog


On May 22, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Scott Davert  wrote:

Hello.
I'm currently using a Focus 14, but have also used a Brailliant BI
20X. I did not experience general panning issues, but am seeing some
problems with the Kindle app. Maybe others are having similar issues
and I'm not aware?

Scott

On 5/22/23, davycupp...@gmail.com  wrote:

Folks

For brail users please do NOT update to ios16.5 and report to Apple
accessibility NOW, do it NOW!

The thumb keys of the brail display functioning as panning keys do not work
as they should, if you press them, sometimes they do mostly they don't.

This bug has been introduced in ios16.5.
DO COMPLAIN with Apple NW!
Davy

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Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

[Michael Irons]

I did not even get iOS 16 because all of the problems people kept talking about 
I’m still hanging back on the latest version of iOS 15.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 22, 2023, at 1:51 PM, Anna Dresner  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything works 
> fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page opens normally, but once 
> it does, all four thumb keys on my braille display stop working. I hear a 
> thunk sound when I press one, and nothing changes on the display. If I press 
> Home, I am unable to navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting VoiceOver is 
> the only way I have found to fix the problem. After that, panning works fine 
> until I try to use Kindle or voice dream Reader again. Apple Books works 
> fine. Are these the same problems the rest of you are seeing?
> 
> I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the problem 
> remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6.
> 
> Best,
> Anna
> 
> 
>> On May 22, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>> 
>> Yep, that’s it.
>> Devin Prater
>> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com
>> 
>> Https://devinprater.micro.blog
>> 
>>> On May 22, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Scott Davert  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello.
>>> I'm currently using a Focus 14, but have also used a Brailliant BI
>>> 20X. I did not experience general panning issues, but am seeing some
>>> problems with the Kindle app. Maybe others are having similar issues
>>> and I'm not aware?
>>> 
>>> Scott
>>> 
>>> On 5/22/23, davycupp...@gmail.com  wrote:
 Folks
 
 For brail users please do NOT update to ios16.5 and report to Apple
 accessibility NOW, do it NOW!
 
 The thumb keys of the brail display functioning as panning keys do not work
 as they should, if you press them, sometimes they do mostly they don't.
 
 This bug has been introduced in ios16.5.
 DO COMPLAIN with Apple NW!
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RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

[Star Gazer]

It’s a bug, it 
will get fixed. I’m missing some posts here but hey if someone wants to sue 
Apple, they hve that right. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of alia 
robinson
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 5:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT 
UPDATE to ios16.5

 

it’s ridiculous to talk about suing apple over this. it’s not like they did it 
purposefully so blind people can’t use their products. do you know how many 
bugs sighted people deal with too? not everything is about us being blind.





On May 22, 2023, at 4:28 PM, Ed Worrell mailto:blindworr...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello,

 

While this is a bug, I don’t think that it’s worth threatening to sue Apple 
over. It takes some time in the development world to fix bugs, and to get them 
approved in the update cycle. I think that you will have better luck with 
reporting bugs through Apple Accessibility, than getting lawyers involved. This 
is not a denial of access issue, it literally is a bug, that someone has found 
a work around for. It sounds pretty simple to work around it too. Just my 
thoughts, I’m sure you’re going to rip me a new one now, so go on with your 
rant.

 

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Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

[alia robinson]

it’s ridiculous to talk about suing apple over this. it’s not like they did it 
purposefully so blind people can’t use their products. do you know how many 
bugs sighted people deal with too? not everything is about us being blind.

> On May 22, 2023, at 4:28 PM, Ed Worrell  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> While this is a bug, I don’t think that it’s worth threatening to sue Apple 
> over. It takes some time in the development world to fix bugs, and to get 
> them approved in the update cycle. I think that you will have better luck 
> with reporting bugs through Apple Accessibility, than getting lawyers 
> involved. This is not a denial of access issue, it literally is a bug, that 
> someone has found a work around for. It sounds pretty simple to work around 
> it too. Just my thoughts, I’m sure you’re going to rip me a new one now, so 
> go on with your rant.

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RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

[Dennis Long]

Davy

Good luck finding a bug free platform when you find it let me know.  Oh wait it 
doesn’t exist.

 

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davycupp...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, May 22, 2023 4:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT 
UPDATE to ios16.5

 

And for all US citizens, report tot he federation of the blind maybe their 
lawyers can send some legal letters to Apple or start some legal action.

I am fed up wit all those nasty bugs!

Apple must stop making publicity fort heir accessibilitiy enhancements in ios17 
if they are not even able to solve the now ongoing bugs like this bug and the 
dictation inconveniences!

Davy 

 

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Namens Richard 
Turner
Verzonden: maandag 22 mei 2023 21:08
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Onderwerp: Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT 
UPDATE to ios16.5

 

You may also want to alert the Voice Dream Reader folks in case they can do 
something about it. supp...@voicedream.com <mailto:supp...@voicedream.com> 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

 

On May 22, 2023, at 11:51 AM, Anna Dresner mailto:wadres...@att.net> > wrote:

Hi,

 

I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything works 
fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page opens normally, but once 
it does, all four thumb keys on my braille display stop working. I hear a thunk 
sound when I press one, and nothing changes on the display. If I press Home, I 
am unable to navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting VoiceOver is the only way 
I have found to fix the problem. After that, panning works fine until I try to 
use Kindle or voice dream Reader again. Apple Books works fine. Are these the 
same problems the rest of you are seeing?

 

I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the problem 
remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6.

 

Best,

Anna

 

 

On May 22, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Devin Prater mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Yep, that’s it.

Devin Prater

r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> 

 

Https://devinprater.micro.blog

 

On May 22, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Scott Davert mailto:scottslistm...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello.
I'm currently using a Focus 14, but have also used a Brailliant BI
20X. I did not experience general panning issues, but am seeing some
problems with the Kindle app. Maybe others are having similar issues
and I'm not aware?

Scott

On 5/22/23, davycupp...@gmail.com <mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com>  
mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Folks

For brail users please do NOT update to ios16.5 and report to Apple
accessibility NOW, do it NOW!

The thumb keys of the brail display functioning as panning keys do not work
as they should, if you press them, sometimes they do mostly they don't.

This bug has been introduced in ios16.5.
DO COMPLAIN with Apple NW!
Davy

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Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

[CHELA Robles]

I agree with Ed. Also, David coupons messages when reading with voiceover sounds like it’s in another language even though it’s technically an English it’s reading in a different text to speech voice and it sounds really weird. Even though, I have my language automatically set to English and I have an English voice. Perhaps he used a non-English keyboard to write in English I don’t know, but anyway, hopefully they’ll fix it. At least the Apple will hopefully fix the braille issue they usually do. If people nicely report this to Apple accessibility.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 22, 2023, at 1:29 PM, Ed Worrell  wrote:Hello,While this is a bug, I don’t think that it’s worth threatening to sue Apple over. It takes some time in the development world to fix bugs, and to get them approved in the update cycle. I think that you will have better luck with reporting bugs through Apple Accessibility, than getting lawyers involved. This is not a denial of access issue, it literally is a bug, that someone has found a work around for. It sounds pretty simple to work around it too. Just my thoughts, I’m sure you’re going to rip me a new one now, so go on with your rant.Thanks for listening,EdOn May 22, 2023, at 2:21 PM,   wrote:And for all US citizens, report tot he federation of the blind maybe their lawyers can send some legal letters to Apple or start some legal action.I am fed up wit all those nasty bugs!Apple must stop making publicity fort heir accessibilitiy enhancements in ios17 if they are not even able to solve the now ongoing bugs like this bug and the dictation inconveniences!Davy  Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Richard TurnerVerzonden: maandag 22 mei 2023 21:08Aan: viphone@googlegroups.comOnderwerp: Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5 You may also want to alert the Voice Dream Reader folks in case they can do something about it. supp...@voicedream.com   Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.com On May 22, 2023, at 11:51 AM, Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:Hi, I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything works fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page opens normally, but once it does, all four thumb keys on my braille display stop working. I hear a thunk sound when I press one, and nothing changes on the display. If I press Home, I am unable to navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting VoiceOver is the only way I have found to fix the problem. After that, panning works fine until I try to use Kindle or voice dream Reader again. Apple Books works fine. Are these the same problems the rest of you are seeing? I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the problem remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6. Best,Anna On May 22, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Devin Prater <r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> wrote: Yep, that’s it.Devin Praterr.d.t.pra...@gmail.com Https://devinprater.micro.blogOn May 22, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Scott Davert <scottslistm...@gmail.com> wrote: Hello.I'm currently using a Focus 14, but have also used a Brailliant BI20X. I did not experience general panning issues, but am seeing someproblems with the Kindle app. Maybe others are having similar issuesand I'm not aware?ScottOn 5/22/23, davycupp...@gmail.com <davycupp...@gmail.com> wrote:FolksFor brail users please do NOT update to ios16.5 and report to Appleaccessibility NOW, do it NOW!The thumb keys of the brail display functioning as panning keys do not workas they should, if you press them, sometimes they do mostly they don't.This bug has been introduced in ios16.5.DO COMPLAIN with Apple NW!Davy--The following information is important for all members of the V iPhonelist.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or ifyou feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners ormoderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara atcaraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/---You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups"VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send anemail to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visithttps://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/005c01d98cbc%24ef261150%24cd7233f0%24%40gmail.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the lis

Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

[Ed Worrell]

Hello,

While this is a bug, I don’t think that it’s worth threatening to sue Apple 
over. It takes some time in the development world to fix bugs, and to get them 
approved in the update cycle. I think that you will have better luck with 
reporting bugs through Apple Accessibility, than getting lawyers involved. This 
is not a denial of access issue, it literally is a bug, that someone has found 
a work around for. It sounds pretty simple to work around it too. Just my 
thoughts, I’m sure you’re going to rip me a new one now, so go on with your 
rant.

Thanks for listening,

Ed



> On May 22, 2023, at 2:21 PM,   
> wrote:
> 
> And for all US citizens, report tot he federation of the blind maybe their 
> lawyers can send some legal letters to Apple or start some legal action.
> I am fed up wit all those nasty bugs!
> Apple must stop making publicity fort heir accessibilitiy enhancements in 
> ios17 if they are not even able to solve the now ongoing bugs like this bug 
> and the dictation inconveniences!
> Davy
>  
> Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Richard Turner
> Verzonden: maandag 22 mei 2023 21:08
> Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Onderwerp: Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT 
> UPDATE to ios16.5
>  
> You may also want to alert the Voice Dream Reader folks in case they can do 
> something about it. supp...@voicedream.com <mailto:supp...@voicedream.com>
>  
> 
>  
>  
> Richard, USA.
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com/>
>  
> 
> 
>> On May 22, 2023, at 11:51 AM, Anna Dresner > <mailto:wadres...@att.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>>  
>> I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything 
>> works fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page opens normally, 
>> but once it does, all four thumb keys on my braille display stop working. I 
>> hear a thunk sound when I press one, and nothing changes on the display. If 
>> I press Home, I am unable to navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting 
>> VoiceOver is the only way I have found to fix the problem. After that, 
>> panning works fine until I try to use Kindle or voice dream Reader again. 
>> Apple Books works fine. Are these the same problems the rest of you are 
>> seeing?
>>  
>> I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the problem 
>> remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6.
>>  
>> Best,
>> Anna
>>  
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 22, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Devin Prater >> <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Yep, that’s it.
>>> Devin Prater
>>> r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com>
>>>  
>>> Https://devinprater.micro.blog <https://devinprater.micro.blog/>
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On May 22, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Scott Davert >>> <mailto:scottslistm...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>  
>>>> Hello.
>>>> I'm currently using a Focus 14, but have also used a Brailliant BI
>>>> 20X. I did not experience general panning issues, but am seeing some
>>>> problems with the Kindle app. Maybe others are having similar issues
>>>> and I'm not aware?
>>>> 
>>>> Scott
>>>> 
>>>> On 5/22/23, davycupp...@gmail.com <mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> 
>>>> mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Folks
>>>>> 
>>>>> For brail users please do NOT update to ios16.5 and report to Apple
>>>>> accessibility NOW, do it NOW!
>>>>> 
>>>>> The thumb keys of the brail display functioning as panning keys do not 
>>>>> work
>>>>> as they should, if you press them, sometimes they do mostly they don't.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This bug has been introduced in ios16.5.
>>>>> DO COMPLAIN with Apple NW!
>>>>> Davy
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RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

[davycuppens]

And for all US citizens, report tot he federation of the blind maybe their 
lawyers can send some legal letters to Apple or start some legal action.

I am fed up wit all those nasty bugs!

Apple must stop making publicity fort heir accessibilitiy enhancements in ios17 
if they are not even able to solve the now ongoing bugs like this bug and the 
dictation inconveniences!

Davy 

 

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Richard Turner
Verzonden: maandag 22 mei 2023 21:08
Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com
Onderwerp: Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT 
UPDATE to ios16.5

 

You may also want to alert the Voice Dream Reader folks in case they can do 
something about it. supp...@voicedream.com <mailto:supp...@voicedream.com> 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 





On May 22, 2023, at 11:51 AM, Anna Dresner mailto:wadres...@att.net> > wrote:

Hi,

 

I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything works 
fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page opens normally, but once 
it does, all four thumb keys on my braille display stop working. I hear a thunk 
sound when I press one, and nothing changes on the display. If I press Home, I 
am unable to navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting VoiceOver is the only way 
I have found to fix the problem. After that, panning works fine until I try to 
use Kindle or voice dream Reader again. Apple Books works fine. Are these the 
same problems the rest of you are seeing?

 

I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the problem 
remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6.

 

Best,

Anna

 





On May 22, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Devin Prater mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Yep, that’s it.

Devin Prater

r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> 

 

Https://devinprater.micro.blog





On May 22, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Scott Davert mailto:scottslistm...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello.
I'm currently using a Focus 14, but have also used a Brailliant BI
20X. I did not experience general panning issues, but am seeing some
problems with the Kindle app. Maybe others are having similar issues
and I'm not aware?

Scott

On 5/22/23, davycupp...@gmail.com <mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com>  
mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Folks

For brail users please do NOT update to ios16.5 and report to Apple
accessibility NOW, do it NOW!

The thumb keys of the brail display functioning as panning keys do not work
as they should, if you press them, sometimes they do mostly they don't.

This bug has been introduced in ios16.5.
DO COMPLAIN with Apple NW!
Davy

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RE: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

[davycuppens]

Hi Anna then report again and again over and over again: today, tomorrow until 
they fix it. Please folks start to push pressure on Apple, do it now!

Davy 

 

Van: viphone@googlegroups.com  Namens Anna Dresner
Verzonden: maandag 22 mei 2023 20:51
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UPDATE to ios16.5

 

Hi,

 

I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything works 
fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page opens normally, but once 
it does, all four thumb keys on my braille display stop working. I hear a thunk 
sound when I press one, and nothing changes on the display. If I press Home, I 
am unable to navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting VoiceOver is the only way 
I have found to fix the problem. After that, panning works fine until I try to 
use Kindle or voice dream Reader again. Apple Books works fine. Are these the 
same problems the rest of you are seeing?

 

I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the problem 
remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6.

 

Best,

Anna

 





On May 22, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Devin Prater mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Yep, that’s it.

Devin Prater

r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com <mailto:r.d.t.pra...@gmail.com> 

 

Https://devinprater.micro.blog





On May 22, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Scott Davert mailto:scottslistm...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello.
I'm currently using a Focus 14, but have also used a Brailliant BI
20X. I did not experience general panning issues, but am seeing some
problems with the Kindle app. Maybe others are having similar issues
and I'm not aware?

Scott

On 5/22/23, davycupp...@gmail.com <mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com>  
mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Folks

For brail users please do NOT update to ios16.5 and report to Apple
accessibility NOW, do it NOW!

The thumb keys of the brail display functioning as panning keys do not work
as they should, if you press them, sometimes they do mostly they don't.

This bug has been introduced in ios16.5.
DO COMPLAIN with Apple NW!
Davy

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Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

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Well, I already have 16.5.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 22, 2023, at 12:55 PM, Jennie Facer  wrote:A work around is to turn the setting that says turn pages while panning off. Make sure it is off, then when your first page runs out, press o plus spacebar and it should advance you to the next page.JennJenn and KumiOn May 22, 2023, at 1:08 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:You may also want to alert the Voice Dream Reader folks in case they can do something about it. supp...@voicedream.comRichard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn May 22, 2023, at 11:51 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:Hi,I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything works fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page opens normally, but once it does, all four thumb keys on my braille display stop working. I hear a thunk sound when I press one, and nothing changes on the display. If I press Home, I am unable to navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting VoiceOver is the only way I have found to fix the problem. After that, panning works fine until I try to use Kindle or voice dream Reader again. Apple Books works fine. Are these the same problems the rest of you are seeing?I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the problem remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6.Best,AnnaOn May 22, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:Yep, that’s it.
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A work around is to turn the setting that says turn pages while panning off. Make sure it is off, then when your first page runs out, press o plus spacebar and it should advance you to the next page.JennJenn and KumiOn May 22, 2023, at 1:08 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:You may also want to alert the Voice Dream Reader folks in case they can do something about it. supp...@voicedream.comRichard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn May 22, 2023, at 11:51 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:Hi,I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything works fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page opens normally, but once it does, all four thumb keys on my braille display stop working. I hear a thunk sound when I press one, and nothing changes on the display. If I press Home, I am unable to navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting VoiceOver is the only way I have found to fix the problem. After that, panning works fine until I try to use Kindle or voice dream Reader again. Apple Books works fine. Are these the same problems the rest of you are seeing?I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the problem remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6.Best,AnnaOn May 22, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:Yep, that’s it.
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You may also want to alert the Voice Dream Reader folks in case they can do something about it. supp...@voicedream.comRichard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn May 22, 2023, at 11:51 AM, Anna Dresner  wrote:Hi,I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything works fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page opens normally, but once it does, all four thumb keys on my braille display stop working. I hear a thunk sound when I press one, and nothing changes on the display. If I press Home, I am unable to navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting VoiceOver is the only way I have found to fix the problem. After that, panning works fine until I try to use Kindle or voice dream Reader again. Apple Books works fine. Are these the same problems the rest of you are seeing?I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the problem remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6.Best,AnnaOn May 22, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:Yep, that’s it.
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Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

[Anna Dresner]

Hi,

I’m seeing an issue with Kindle and Voice dream Reader where everything works 
fine until I get to the end of a page. The next page opens normally, but once 
it does, all four thumb keys on my braille display stop working. I hear a thunk 
sound when I press one, and nothing changes on the display. If I press Home, I 
am unable to navigate with the thumb keys. Restarting VoiceOver is the only way 
I have found to fix the problem. After that, panning works fine until I try to 
use Kindle or voice dream Reader again. Apple Books works fine. Are these the 
same problems the rest of you are seeing?

I sent a bug report about this a week or so ago. Unfortunately, the problem 
remains in beta 1 of iOS 16.6.

Best,
Anna


> On May 22, 2023, at 10:36 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
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> Yep, that’s it.
> Devin Prater
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>> On May 22, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Scott Davert  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello.
>> I'm currently using a Focus 14, but have also used a Brailliant BI
>> 20X. I did not experience general panning issues, but am seeing some
>> problems with the Kindle app. Maybe others are having similar issues
>> and I'm not aware?
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>> On 5/22/23, davycupp...@gmail.com  wrote:
>>> Folks
>>> 
>>> For brail users please do NOT update to ios16.5 and report to Apple
>>> accessibility NOW, do it NOW!
>>> 
>>> The thumb keys of the brail display functioning as panning keys do not work
>>> as they should, if you press them, sometimes they do mostly they don't.
>>> 
>>> This bug has been introduced in ios16.5.
>>> DO COMPLAIN with Apple NW!
>>> Davy
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> On May 22, 2023, at 10:32 AM, Scott Davert  wrote:
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> Hello.
> I'm currently using a Focus 14, but have also used a Brailliant BI
> 20X. I did not experience general panning issues, but am seeing some
> problems with the Kindle app. Maybe others are having similar issues
> and I'm not aware?
> 
> Scott
> 
> On 5/22/23, davycupp...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> Folks
>> 
>> For brail users please do NOT update to ios16.5 and report to Apple
>> accessibility NOW, do it NOW!
>> 
>> The thumb keys of the brail display functioning as panning keys do not work
>> as they should, if you press them, sometimes they do mostly they don't.
>> 
>> This bug has been introduced in ios16.5.
>> DO COMPLAIN with Apple NW!
>> Davy
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Re: new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

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Hello.
I'm currently using a Focus 14, but have also used a Brailliant BI
20X. I did not experience general panning issues, but am seeing some
problems with the Kindle app. Maybe others are having similar issues
and I'm not aware?

Scott

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> For brail users please do NOT update to ios16.5 and report to Apple
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>
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> as they should, if you press them, sometimes they do mostly they don't.
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> DO COMPLAIN with Apple NW!
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new tramendous brail panning bug for all brail devices DO NOT UPDATE to ios16.5

[davycuppens]

Folks 

For brail users please do NOT update to ios16.5 and report to Apple
accessibility NOW, do it NOW!

The thumb keys of the brail display functioning as panning keys do not work
as they should, if you press them, sometimes they do mostly they don't.

This bug has been introduced in ios16.5.
DO COMPLAIN with Apple NW!
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Users complain about bug causing Apple devices to constantly ask for Apple ID password [U]

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

Just an FYI in case others have experienced this. And here I thought I had
somehow gotten malware on my phone. 

https://9to5mac.com/2023/04/15/bug-apple-devices-ask-apple-id-password/ 

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Re: IOS Devices and Portable Braille Displays

[Loreal Lavigna]

Thank you so much for this info! I’ll definitely look into this. Appreciate it very much.LorealSent from my iPhoneOn Mar 7, 2023, at 3:51 PM, Timothy Emmons  wrote:Hey guys, don't forget the Nls EReader available through your nls library if you're a patron. It's a 20 cell display made by Humanware, and it's robust and very straight forward to use. The one caveat at the moment, it doesn't run on the android platform yet but it does connect to IOS beautifully. But, that's another, free, option. Thanks yall.Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 7, 2023, at 9:54 AM, Loreal Lavigna  wrote:Just wanted to say thank you for the info. Have you utilized the focus 14 blue? Just curious. Any info you may have on this particular device would absolutely be greatly appreciated.Thank you in advance for any info you may have!LorealSent from my iPhoneOn Mar 7, 2023, at 10:18 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:Well, there are several 20 cells displays available from Orbit Research, Humanware and I think HIMS maybe?Freedom Scientific makes the Focus 14, but even though it is only 14 cells, it is not physically that much smaller than the Orbit 20 Plus.I’ve not handled the Humanware or HIMS products so have no info on them. HTH,   Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Loreal LavignaSent: Tuesday, March 7, 2023 7:12 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: IOS Devices and Portable Braille DisplaysImportance: High Hello everyone, I’m looking at getting myself a portable Braille display device.  This will be personally/professionally used exclusively with my iPhone 13 Pro Max and my iPad Mini6.  I’m looking at something either 18 cells or less than 18 cells and easily fitted into a medium to large size tablet carrying case.  Would anyone have any suggestions or recommendations? I used large Braille displays some years back with my laptop and loved the option of having Braille available to me to keep my skills sharp even though I utilize JAWS and accessible features such as VoiceOver on IOS devices or TalkBack on Android/Google devices.  I would love to have the option of using Braille so that when I’m on the move and unable to use my Air Pods I’ll be able to read things like texts, emails, etc. privately without anyone overhearing.  I’m using email and text communication for personal as well as professional reasons.  Feel free to respond on this list as well as by email at loreallavi...@gmail.com or by text at 5183305188. Thank you in advance for any help or advice you may have.Sincerely,Loreal LavignaGeneral, Legal, Medical TranscriptionistPhone:  (518)330-5188E-Mail:  loreallavi...@gmail.comWebsite:  Click here for Transcripts By Loreal -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/!%26!AAAuAJTRwZYBbLpDjx4GtmDmj2wBAMO2jhD3dRHOtM0AqgC7tuYAAA4AABDfoH4LxgCzS7ngiomL0cK3AQA%3D%40gmail.com.



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Re: IOS Devices and Portable Braille Displays

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Hey guys, don't forget the Nls EReader available through your nls library if you're a patron. It's a 20 cell display made by Humanware, and it's robust and very straight forward to use. The one caveat at the moment, it doesn't run on the android platform yet but it does connect to IOS beautifully. But, that's another, free, option. Thanks yall.Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 7, 2023, at 9:54 AM, Loreal Lavigna  wrote:Just wanted to say thank you for the info. Have you utilized the focus 14 blue? Just curious. Any info you may have on this particular device would absolutely be greatly appreciated.Thank you in advance for any info you may have!LorealSent from my iPhoneOn Mar 7, 2023, at 10:18 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:Well, there are several 20 cells displays available from Orbit Research, Humanware and I think HIMS maybe?Freedom Scientific makes the Focus 14, but even though it is only 14 cells, it is not physically that much smaller than the Orbit 20 Plus.I’ve not handled the Humanware or HIMS products so have no info on them. HTH,   Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Loreal LavignaSent: Tuesday, March 7, 2023 7:12 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: IOS Devices and Portable Braille DisplaysImportance: High Hello everyone, I’m looking at getting myself a portable Braille display device.  This will be personally/professionally used exclusively with my iPhone 13 Pro Max and my iPad Mini6.  I’m looking at something either 18 cells or less than 18 cells and easily fitted into a medium to large size tablet carrying case.  Would anyone have any suggestions or recommendations? I used large Braille displays some years back with my laptop and loved the option of having Braille available to me to keep my skills sharp even though I utilize JAWS and accessible features such as VoiceOver on IOS devices or TalkBack on Android/Google devices.  I would love to have the option of using Braille so that when I’m on the move and unable to use my Air Pods I’ll be able to read things like texts, emails, etc. privately without anyone overhearing.  I’m using email and text communication for personal as well as professional reasons.  Feel free to respond on this list as well as by email at loreallavi...@gmail.com or by text at 5183305188. Thank you in advance for any help or advice you may have.Sincerely,Loreal LavignaGeneral, Legal, Medical TranscriptionistPhone:  (518)330-5188E-Mail:  loreallavi...@gmail.comWebsite:  Click here for Transcripts By Loreal -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/!%26!AAAuAJTRwZYBbLpDjx4GtmDmj2wBAMO2jhD3dRHOtM0AqgC7tuYAAA4AABDfoH4LxgCzS7ngiomL0cK3AQA%3D%40gmail.com.



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Re: IOS Devices and Portable Braille Displays

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Ih have handled the Focus 14 Blue. I'm simply not a bfan of Freedom's hardware.  It feels less well made than other displays; but that is very subjective. The reality is that you need hands on yourself with the varighs displays in order to decide what meets your need. Some State rehab offices have displays you can check out if you happen to live near one. otherwise you have to buy one, check it out during the period that you could return it for a full refund, and then try another. 'Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Mar 7, 2023, at 7:54 AM, Loreal Lavigna  wrote:Just wanted to say thank you for the info. Have you utilized the focus 14 blue? Just curious. Any info you may have on this particular device would absolutely be greatly appreciated.Thank you in advance for any info you may have!LorealSent from my iPhoneOn Mar 7, 2023, at 10:18 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:Well, there are several 20 cells displays available from Orbit Research, Humanware and I think HIMS maybe?Freedom Scientific makes the Focus 14, but even though it is only 14 cells, it is not physically that much smaller than the Orbit 20 Plus.I’ve not handled the Humanware or HIMS products so have no info on them. HTH,   Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Loreal LavignaSent: Tuesday, March 7, 2023 7:12 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: IOS Devices and Portable Braille DisplaysImportance: High Hello everyone, I’m looking at getting myself a portable Braille display device.  This will be personally/professionally used exclusively with my iPhone 13 Pro Max and my iPad Mini6.  I’m looking at something either 18 cells or less than 18 cells and easily fitted into a medium to large size tablet carrying case.  Would anyone have any suggestions or recommendations? I used large Braille displays some years back with my laptop and loved the option of having Braille available to me to keep my skills sharp even though I utilize JAWS and accessible features such as VoiceOver on IOS devices or TalkBack on Android/Google devices.  I would love to have the option of using Braille so that when I’m on the move and unable to use my Air Pods I’ll be able to read things like texts, emails, etc. privately without anyone overhearing.  I’m using email and text communication for personal as well as professional reasons.  Feel free to respond on this list as well as by email at loreallavi...@gmail.com or by text at 5183305188. Thank you in advance for any help or advice you may have.Sincerely,Loreal LavignaGeneral, Legal, Medical TranscriptionistPhone:  (518)330-5188E-Mail:  loreallavi...@gmail.comWebsite:  Click here for Transcripts By Loreal -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/!%26!AAAuAJTRwZYBbLpDjx4GtmDmj2wBAMO2jhD3dRHOtM0AqgC7tuYAAA4AABDfoH4LxgCzS7ngiomL0cK3AQA%3D%40gmail.com.



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Re: IOS Devices and Portable Braille Displays

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Just wanted to say thank you for the info. Have you utilized the focus 14 blue? Just curious. Any info you may have on this particular device would absolutely be greatly appreciated.Thank you in advance for any info you may have!LorealSent from my iPhoneOn Mar 7, 2023, at 10:18 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:Well, there are several 20 cells displays available from Orbit Research, Humanware and I think HIMS maybe?Freedom Scientific makes the Focus 14, but even though it is only 14 cells, it is not physically that much smaller than the Orbit 20 Plus.I’ve not handled the Humanware or HIMS products so have no info on them. HTH,   Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Loreal LavignaSent: Tuesday, March 7, 2023 7:12 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: IOS Devices and Portable Braille DisplaysImportance: High Hello everyone, I’m looking at getting myself a portable Braille display device.  This will be personally/professionally used exclusively with my iPhone 13 Pro Max and my iPad Mini6.  I’m looking at something either 18 cells or less than 18 cells and easily fitted into a medium to large size tablet carrying case.  Would anyone have any suggestions or recommendations? I used large Braille displays some years back with my laptop and loved the option of having Braille available to me to keep my skills sharp even though I utilize JAWS and accessible features such as VoiceOver on IOS devices or TalkBack on Android/Google devices.  I would love to have the option of using Braille so that when I’m on the move and unable to use my Air Pods I’ll be able to read things like texts, emails, etc. privately without anyone overhearing.  I’m using email and text communication for personal as well as professional reasons.  Feel free to respond on this list as well as by email at loreallavi...@gmail.com or by text at 5183305188. Thank you in advance for any help or advice you may have.Sincerely,Loreal LavignaGeneral, Legal, Medical TranscriptionistPhone:  (518)330-5188E-Mail:  loreallavi...@gmail.comWebsite:  Click here for Transcripts By Loreal -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/!%26!AAAuAJTRwZYBbLpDjx4GtmDmj2wBAMO2jhD3dRHOtM0AqgC7tuYAAA4AABDfoH4LxgCzS7ngiomL0cK3AQA%3D%40gmail.com.



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RE: IOS Devices and Portable Braille Displays

[Richard Turner]

Well, there are several 20 cells displays available from Orbit Research, 
Humanware and I think HIMS maybe?

Freedom Scientific makes the Focus 14, but even though it is only 14 cells, it 
is not physically that much smaller than the Orbit 20 Plus.

I’ve not handled the Humanware or HIMS products so have no info on them.

 

HTH,

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 

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Lavigna
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: IOS Devices and Portable Braille Displays
Importance: High

 

Hello everyone,

 

I’m looking at getting myself a portable Braille display device.  This will be 
personally/professionally used exclusively with my iPhone 13 Pro Max and my 
iPad Mini6.  I’m looking at something either 18 cells or less than 18 cells and 
easily fitted into a medium to large size tablet carrying case.  Would anyone 
have any suggestions or recommendations?

 

I used large Braille displays some years back with my laptop and loved the 
option of having Braille available to me to keep my skills sharp even though I 
utilize JAWS and accessible features such as VoiceOver on IOS devices or 
TalkBack on Android/Google devices.  I would love to have the option of using 
Braille so that when I’m on the move and unable to use my Air Pods I’ll be able 
to read things like texts, emails, etc. privately without anyone overhearing.  
I’m using email and text communication for personal as well as professional 
reasons.  Feel free to respond on this list as well as by email at 
loreallavi...@gmail.com <mailto:loreallavi...@gmail.com>  or by text at 
5183305188.

 

Thank you in advance for any help or advice you may have.

Sincerely,

Loreal Lavigna

General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist

Phone:  (518)330-5188

E-Mail:  loreallavi...@gmail.com <mailto:loreallavi...@gmail.com> 

Website:  Click here for Transcripts By Loreal 
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IOS Devices and Portable Braille Displays

[Loreal Lavigna]

Hello everyone,

 

I'm looking at getting myself a portable Braille display device.  This will
be personally/professionally used exclusively with my iPhone 13 Pro Max and
my iPad Mini6.  I'm looking at something either 18 cells or less than 18
cells and easily fitted into a medium to large size tablet carrying case.
Would anyone have any suggestions or recommendations?

 

I used large Braille displays some years back with my laptop and loved the
option of having Braille available to me to keep my skills sharp even though
I utilize JAWS and accessible features such as VoiceOver on IOS devices or
TalkBack on Android/Google devices.  I would love to have the option of
using Braille so that when I'm on the move and unable to use my Air Pods
I'll be able to read things like texts, emails, etc. privately without
anyone overhearing.  I'm using email and text communication for personal as
well as professional reasons.  Feel free to respond on this list as well as
by email at loreallavi...@gmail.com <mailto:loreallavi...@gmail.com>  or by
text at 5183305188.

 

Thank you in advance for any help or advice you may have.

Sincerely,

Loreal Lavigna

General, Legal, Medical Transcriptionist

Phone:  (518)330-5188

E-Mail:  loreallavi...@gmail.com <mailto:loreallavi...@gmail.com> 

Website:  Click here for Transcripts By Loreal
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RE: SiriusXM Streaming and Multiple Devices

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Well, then I guess Siri XM charges the same in Canadian Dollars, I assumed you 
might be in Canada since typically most things are a bit more in Canadian 
Dollars due to the exchange rate.
This is again an example where what I said before applies, please include your 
location since there are people on the Viphone list from many countries 
including some where Sirius XM isn't even an option and often what such 
companies offer and are allowed to do various based on local laws.
The fact remains that  you maybe didn't read down far enough to the "Offer 
details" where the other conditions are set out including " You can only listen 
on one streaming device at a time per subscription" which Christopher confirms 
also applies to the United States.
I guess it's one way for Sirius XM to prevent what people do with Netflix, 
Disney Plus and many other services which is to share their login information 
with maybe a couple of family members or good friends and to then share the 
cost of the sbubscription. Netflix is also starting to put a stop to this and 
more and more companies will probably come up with ways to do so. If you really 
wanted Sirius XM, I assume it's for the sports and talk and not for the music 
since you can have a better offering from services like Apple Music, Spotify, 
Amazon Unlimited, Deezer and a number of other services, you would have to get 
something like a Sonos system since it supports Sirius XM and once you have a 
few Sonos speakers in different places in your house you can then group them 
and play whatever it is you are listening to on multiple devices.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rich De 
Steno
Sent: Monday, February 6, 2023 9:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: SiriusXM Streaming and Multiple Devices

I am in the USA.  I went to the siriusxm.com web site and followed the "all 
plans" link.  It states the following withno reference to Canada:

"3 mos. for $1
then $10.99/mo"


On 2/6/2023 8:40 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Since that seems to be the price in Canada I assume that  is where you are? 
> If so, here is what it says when you read the "offer details", see the second 
> last item for an answer to your question:
>
> OFFER DETAILS:
> Purchase a SiriusXM Streaming Platinum subscription for $10.99 per month. A 
> credit card is required. Fees and taxes extra.
> A Music Royalty and Administrative Fee (MRF) of 10.2% applies.
> Service will continue every month thereafter and your credit card will 
> automatically be charged for as long as you choose to remain a subscriber.
> To cancel you may call us at 1-888-539-7474. All terms, fees, content and 
> features are subject to change.
> SiriusXM Canada reserves the right to modify or terminate this offer at any 
> time. Streaming service may not be available unless data is enabled; data 
> charges may apply and are charged separately. Contact your wireless service 
> provider for details.
> Channel lineup varies by package.
> You can only listen on one streaming device at a time per subscription.
> Subscriptions to SiriusXM Canada are subject to our Customer Agreement.
>
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RE: SiriusXM Streaming and Multiple Devices

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'm in the US, and I have the Platinum subscription for the $11 price, and I 
can only stream on one device at a time. If I start a stream up on a second 
device then I hear a message on the first device stating that since I'm 
streaming somewhere else, my streaming on the current device will be stopped. 
Hmm, I used the word device too many times, so I hope that makes sense. I guess 
the bottom line is that for that plan, yes you can only stream on one device at 
a time.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rich De 
Steno
Sent: Monday, February 6, 2023 11:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: SiriusXM Streaming and Multiple Devices

I am in the USA.  I went to the siriusxm.com web site and followed the "all 
plans" link.  It states the following withno reference to Canada:

"3 mos. for $1
then $10.99/mo"


On 2/6/2023 8:40 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Since that seems to be the price in Canada I assume that  is where you are? 
> If so, here is what it says when you read the "offer details", see the second 
> last item for an answer to your question:
>
> OFFER DETAILS:
> Purchase a SiriusXM Streaming Platinum subscription for $10.99 per month. A 
> credit card is required. Fees and taxes extra.
> A Music Royalty and Administrative Fee (MRF) of 10.2% applies.
> Service will continue every month thereafter and your credit card will 
> automatically be charged for as long as you choose to remain a subscriber.
> To cancel you may call us at 1-888-539-7474. All terms, fees, content and 
> features are subject to change.
> SiriusXM Canada reserves the right to modify or terminate this offer at any 
> time. Streaming service may not be available unless data is enabled; data 
> charges may apply and are charged separately. Contact your wireless service 
> provider for details.
> Channel lineup varies by package.
> You can only listen on one streaming device at a time per subscription.
> Subscriptions to SiriusXM Canada are subject to our Customer Agreement.
>
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Re: SiriusXM Streaming and Multiple Devices

[Rich De Steno]

I am in the USA.  I went to the siriusxm.com web site and followed the 
"all plans" link.  It states the following withno reference to Canada:


"3 mos. for $1
then $10.99/mo"


On 2/6/2023 8:40 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Since that seems to be the price in Canada I assume that  is where you are? If so, here 
is what it says when you read the "offer details", see the second last item for 
an answer to your question:

OFFER DETAILS:
Purchase a SiriusXM Streaming Platinum subscription for $10.99 per month. A 
credit card is required. Fees and taxes extra.
A Music Royalty and Administrative Fee (MRF) of 10.2% applies.
Service will continue every month thereafter and your credit card will 
automatically be charged for as long as you choose to remain a subscriber.
To cancel you may call us at 1-888-539-7474. All terms, fees, content and 
features are subject to change.
SiriusXM Canada reserves the right to modify or terminate this offer at any 
time. Streaming service may not be available unless data is enabled; data 
charges may apply and are charged separately. Contact your wireless service 
provider for details.
Channel lineup varies by package.
You can only listen on one streaming device at a time per subscription.
Subscriptions to SiriusXM Canada are subject to our Customer Agreement.


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RE: SiriusXM Streaming and Multiple Devices

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Since that seems to be the price in Canada I assume that  is where you are? If 
so, here is what it says when you read the "offer details", see the second last 
item for an answer to your question:

OFFER DETAILS:
Purchase a SiriusXM Streaming Platinum subscription for $10.99 per month. A 
credit card is required. Fees and taxes extra.
A Music Royalty and Administrative Fee (MRF) of 10.2% applies.
Service will continue every month thereafter and your credit card will 
automatically be charged for as long as you choose to remain a subscriber.
To cancel you may call us at 1-888-539-7474. All terms, fees, content and 
features are subject to change.
SiriusXM Canada reserves the right to modify or terminate this offer at any 
time. Streaming service may not be available unless data is enabled; data 
charges may apply and are charged separately. Contact your wireless service 
provider for details.
Channel lineup varies by package.
You can only listen on one streaming device at a time per subscription.
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SiriusXM Streaming and Multiple Devices

[Rich De Steno]

If i signup for the SiriusXM Platinum streaming service at $10.99 per 
month, will I be able to stream two different channels on two different 
devices in my house at the same time, or does SM limit you to one stream 
at a time?


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Re: Apple has released a Windows alternative to iTunes, with new Apple Music, TV, and Devices apps available to preview.

[Richard Turner]

You may also want to check with Microsoft accessibility: 800-936-5900
Thanks for jumping in on this.




Richard, USA.
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> On Jan 19, 2023, at 8:42 PM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
> 
> Well, call me the blind daredevil as in the actual daredevil of that actual 
> Marvel comic TV show or I think it was Netflix that had it but anyway, I took 
> a chance and downloaded the three apps for Windows 11, and took them for a 
> little spin and parts of it are accessible, but not enough to make the apps 
> usable. When I tab around past a certain part of each app, nothing speaks, 
> whether I use narrator, jaws, or even NVDA in each app. I will contact Apple 
> accessibility to see who works on the windows, side of things regarding these 
> apps, and see about possibly being a beta tester. If I could, for these apps 
> to make them screen reader, friendly with such input, I mean brain as of 
> right now I cannot get past the Side bar, which is kind of like a collapsible 
> accordion type deal in which you have to arrow down define what you’re 
> looking for and even that doesn’t work and when you enter on say the settings 
> option, nothing happens. so I would like to get in touch with the windows 
> side of things, creator of these apps, and see about providing my feedback 
> there, so I will if by permission keep you guys updated if something were to 
> come out of this if not well at least I could at least give my feedback in 
> general, but it would be a shame for them not to have any screen reader users 
> on board in my opinion, but that’s just my opinion and probably mine alone. 
> Just thought I’d let you all know what’s going on.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 12, 2023, at 8:04 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you for posting this, Sieghard.
>> 
>> I saw this and was very intrigued until I learned that the first iterations 
>> do not include clients for audiobooks and a couple of other media types.
>> 
>> Still, I think it is a definite step in the right direction.
>> 
>> Thank you again.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 10:03 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Apple has released a Windows alternative to iTunes, with new Apple 
>> Music, TV, and Devices apps available to preview.
>> 
>> It looks like the days of iTunes maybe numbered although you need to 
>> remember that for now these are app previews so count maybe on various bugs 
>> and since I have not yet tested any of them I can't speak to their 
>> accessibility. Furthermore the catch they mentioned is that a very recent 
>> version of Windows 11 is required to install and run these apps and for now 
>> apparently you can also only get them in the United States. So before you 
>> order a new Windows 11 computer maybe wait and see what Applevis and other 
>> people report as to the accessibility of these apps. Here is the article:
>> 
>> https://www.imore.com/apple/after-20-years-of-itunes-apple-music-is-finally-on-windows-with-one-major-catch
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Sieghard
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Re: Apple has released a Windows alternative to iTunes, with new Apple Music, TV, and Devices apps available to preview.

[CHELA Robles]

Well, call me the blind daredevil as in the actual daredevil of that actual 
Marvel comic TV show or I think it was Netflix that had it but anyway, I took a 
chance and downloaded the three apps for Windows 11, and took them for a little 
spin and parts of it are accessible, but not enough to make the apps usable. 
When I tab around past a certain part of each app, nothing speaks, whether I 
use narrator, jaws, or even NVDA in each app. I will contact Apple 
accessibility to see who works on the windows, side of things regarding these 
apps, and see about possibly being a beta tester. If I could, for these apps to 
make them screen reader, friendly with such input, I mean brain as of right now 
I cannot get past the Side bar, which is kind of like a collapsible accordion 
type deal in which you have to arrow down define what you’re looking for and 
even that doesn’t work and when you enter on say the settings option, nothing 
happens. so I would like to get in touch with the windows side of things, 
creator of these apps, and see about providing my feedback there, so I will if 
by permission keep you guys updated if something were to come out of this if 
not well at least I could at least give my feedback in general, but it would be 
a shame for them not to have any screen reader users on board in my opinion, 
but that’s just my opinion and probably mine alone. Just thought I’d let you 
all know what’s going on.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 12, 2023, at 8:04 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Thank you for posting this, Sieghard.
> 
> I saw this and was very intrigued until I learned that the first iterations 
> do not include clients for audiobooks and a couple of other media types.
> 
> Still, I think it is a definite step in the right direction.
> 
> Thank you again.
> 
> Mark
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 10:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple has released a Windows alternative to iTunes, with new Apple 
> Music, TV, and Devices apps available to preview.
> 
> It looks like the days of iTunes maybe numbered although you need to remember 
> that for now these are app previews so count maybe on various bugs and since 
> I have not yet tested any of them I can't speak to their accessibility. 
> Furthermore the catch they mentioned is that a very recent version of Windows 
> 11 is required to install and run these apps and for now apparently you can 
> also only get them in the United States. So before you order a new Windows 11 
> computer maybe wait and see what Applevis and other people report as to the 
> accessibility of these apps. Here is the article:
> 
> https://www.imore.com/apple/after-20-years-of-itunes-apple-music-is-finally-on-windows-with-one-major-catch
> 
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
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RE: Apple has released a Windows alternative to iTunes, with new Apple Music, TV, and Devices apps available to preview.

[M. Taylor]

Thank you for posting this, Sieghard.

I saw this and was very intrigued until I learned that the first iterations do 
not include clients for audiobooks and a couple of other media types.

Still, I think it is a definite step in the right direction.

Thank you again.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple has released a Windows alternative to iTunes, with new Apple 
Music, TV, and Devices apps available to preview.

It looks like the days of iTunes maybe numbered although you need to remember 
that for now these are app previews so count maybe on various bugs and since I 
have not yet tested any of them I can't speak to their accessibility. 
Furthermore the catch they mentioned is that a very recent version of Windows 
11 is required to install and run these apps and for now apparently you can 
also only get them in the United States. So before you order a new Windows 11 
computer maybe wait and see what Applevis and other people report as to the 
accessibility of these apps. Here is the article:

https://www.imore.com/apple/after-20-years-of-itunes-apple-music-is-finally-on-windows-with-one-major-catch

Best regards,
Sieghard

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Apple has released a Windows alternative to iTunes, with new Apple Music, TV, and Devices apps available to preview.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It looks like the days of iTunes maybe numbered although you need to remember 
that for now these are app previews so count maybe on various bugs and since I 
have not yet tested any of them I can't speak to their accessibility. 
Furthermore the catch they mentioned is that a very recent version of Windows 
11 is required to install and run these apps and for now apparently you can 
also only get them in the United States. So before you order a new Windows 11 
computer maybe wait and see what Applevis and other people report as to the 
accessibility of these apps. Here is the article:

After 20 years of iTunes, Apple Music is finally on Windows - with one major 
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Re: connecting external devices to iphone or ipad

[Alex Stone]

Thanks Malcolm, just bought it!

Sent from my iPhone

> On 2 Jan 2023, at 19:58, Malcolm Parfitt  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> The link here in the uk on Amazon is:
> 
> Apple Lightning to USB 3 Camera... 
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>> On 2 Jan 2023, at 19:30, Alex Stone  wrote:
>> 
>> Can someone please let me have a link for the apple device? I had it l, but 
>> like a complete idiot. I seem to have deleted it.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On 27 Dec 2022, at 20:53, Joe Paton  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> Looking through apple's resources, usb and flash card readers can be 
>>> connected via the camera kit, and those that may require more power need 
>>> the camera kit 3.  So this kit provides connectivity to either lightening 
>>> ports, or usb 3 in the cases of recent iphones and ipads.
>>> 
>>> Apples guidelines say that these kits can facilitate usb or external 
>>> drives, and or, flash drives.  What concerns me, is that although mention 
>>> is made of the ability to view photo file types, no mention is made of 
>>> accessing audio files.
>>> is there a connector either third partyy or via apple, connector that will 
>>> allow me to access audio books on a USB device, or CF card reader connected 
>>> to an iphone 12, or ipad with usb 3 ports?
>>> 
>>> Sorry for the rambling nature of this question.
>>> 
>>> Thanks.
>>> Happy new year to all.
>>> 
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Re: connecting external devices to iphone or ipad

[Malcolm Parfitt]

Hello,

The link here in the uk on Amazon is:

Apple Lightning to USB 3 Camera... 
https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01DGDNL2G?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share

Malcolm Parfitt

> On 2 Jan 2023, at 19:30, Alex Stone  wrote:
> 
> Can someone please let me have a link for the apple device? I had it l, but 
> like a complete idiot. I seem to have deleted it.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 27 Dec 2022, at 20:53, Joe Paton  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello,
>> Looking through apple's resources, usb and flash card readers can be 
>> connected via the camera kit, and those that may require more power need the 
>> camera kit 3.  So this kit provides connectivity to either lightening ports, 
>> or usb 3 in the cases of recent iphones and ipads.
>> 
>> Apples guidelines say that these kits can facilitate usb or external drives, 
>> and or, flash drives.  What concerns me, is that although mention is made of 
>> the ability to view photo file types, no mention is made of accessing audio 
>> files.
>> is there a connector either third partyy or via apple, connector that will 
>> allow me to access audio books on a USB device, or CF card reader connected 
>> to an iphone 12, or ipad with usb 3 ports?
>> 
>> Sorry for the rambling nature of this question.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> Happy new year to all.
>> 
>> Joe
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Re: connecting external devices to iphone or ipad

[Alex Stone]

Can someone please let me have a link for the apple device? I had it l, but 
like a complete idiot. I seem to have deleted it.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 27 Dec 2022, at 20:53, Joe Paton  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Looking through apple's resources, usb and flash card readers can be 
> connected via the camera kit, and those that may require more power need the 
> camera kit 3.  So this kit provides connectivity to either lightening ports, 
> or usb 3 in the cases of recent iphones and ipads.
> 
> Apples guidelines say that these kits can facilitate usb or external drives, 
> and or, flash drives.  What concerns me, is that although mention is made of 
> the ability to view photo file types, no mention is made of accessing audio 
> files.
> is there a connector either third partyy or via apple, connector that will 
> allow me to access audio books on a USB device, or CF card reader connected 
> to an iphone 12, or ipad with usb 3 ports?
> 
> Sorry for the rambling nature of this question.
> 
> Thanks.
> Happy new year to all.
> 
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Re: connecting external devices to Iphone or Ipad

[Alex Stone]

Thanks Richard!

Sent from my iPhone

On 28 Dec 2022, at 15:14, Richard Turner  wrote:




Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter

https://store.apple.com/xc/product/MK0W2AM/A

Here is the one for USB drives; just replace USB with SD card and search for it 
if you need to use SD cards. They ar: available from lots of places including 
Amazon.




Richard, USA.
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On Dec 28, 2022, at 7:07 AM, Alex Stone  wrote:

 Richard, any chance of a link to the Apple one please?

Sent from my iPhone

On 28 Dec 2022, at 14:51, Richard Turner  wrote:

 The one Apple sells for either USB or SD card connection works fine with 
books.
On a phone, it always requires external power.
The iPad should be able to handle them without external power.
Now, if you plug in an external drive like a 1 or 2, or more TB hard drive, you 
will need extra power I think even with an iPad.

HTH,




Richard, USA.
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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com


On Dec 27, 2022, at 7:41 PM, William Outman  wrote:

I wouldn’t think there would be a problem with the usual audio files we come 
across. Audio files are smaller than video.
Others can comment further.
Bill Outman


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 27, 2022, at 4:19 PM, Joe Paton  wrote:

Hello,
Looking through apple's on-line resources, usb and flash card readers
can be connected via the camera kit, and those that may require more
power need the camera kit 3.  So this kit provides connectivity to
either lightening ports, or usb 3 in the cases of recent iphones and
ipads.

Apples guidelines say that these kits can facilitate usb or external drives, 
and or, flash drives.  What concerns me, is that although mention is made of 
the ability to view photo file types, no mention is made of accessing audio 
files.
is there a connector either third partyy or via apple, connector that will 
allow me to access audio books on a USB device, or CF card reader connected to 
an iphone 12, or ipad with a usb 3 port?

Sorry for the rambling nature of this question.

Thanks.
Happy new year to all.

Joe

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Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapterhttps://store.apple.com/xc/product/MK0W2AM/AHere is the one for USB drives; just replace USB with SD card and search for it if you need to use SD cards. They ar: available from lots of places including Amazon.Richard, USA.“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John RuskinMy web site: https://www.turner42.comOn Dec 28, 2022, at 7:07 AM, Alex Stone  wrote:




Richard, any chance of a link to the Apple one please?

Sent from my iPhone

On 28 Dec 2022, at 14:51, Richard Turner  wrote:




 The one Apple sells for either USB or SD card connection works fine with books.
On a phone, it always requires external power.
The iPad should be able to handle them without external power.
Now, if you plug in an external drive like a 1 or 2, or more TB hard drive, you will need extra power I think even with an iPad.


HTH,







Richard, USA.
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My web site: https://www.turner42.com




On Dec 27, 2022, at 7:41 PM, William Outman  wrote:




I wouldn’t think there would be a problem with the usual audio files we come across. Audio files are smaller than video.

Others can comment further. 
Bill Outman 


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 27, 2022, at 4:19 PM, Joe Paton  wrote:



Hello, 

Looking through apple's on-line resources, usb and flash card readers

can be connected via the camera kit, and those that may require more

power need the camera kit 3.  So this kit provides connectivity to

either lightening ports, or usb 3 in the cases of recent iphones and

ipads. 



Apples guidelines say that these kits can facilitate usb or external drives, and or, flash drives.  What concerns me, is that although mention is made of the ability to view photo file types, no mention is made of accessing audio
 files. 

is there a connector either third partyy or via apple, connector that will allow me to access audio books on a USB device, or CF card reader connected to an iphone 12, or ipad with a usb 3 port?




Sorry for the rambling nature of this question. 




Thanks. 

Happy new year to all. 



Joe 



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Re: connecting external devices to Iphone or Ipad

[Mária Orovčíková]

Hi to all,
Richard, you said:
"...The one Apple sells for either USB or SD card connection works fine 
with books.

On a phone, it always requires external power.".
Sorry for a stupid question, but what external power do you mean?
Do you need to purchase any additional accessories like adapter to get 
external power or just regular Iphone/Ipad charger?
My friend has "Lightning to USB 3 camera adapter. She plugs it to the 
Iphone charging port. The adapter has two ports on the other end, One 
port is for plugging USb drives,  another port is for lightning 
Iphone/Ipad cable to charge Iphone.

She didn't mention extra power when she uses the adapter with her Iphone.
Thanks.
Maria

On 28. 12. 2022 15:50, Richard Turner wrote:
The one Apple sells for either USB or SD card connection works fine 
with books.

On a phone, it always requires external power.
The iPad should be able to handle them without external power.
Now, if you plug in an external drive like a 1 or 2, or more TB hard 
drive, you will need extra power I think even with an iPad.


HTH,




Richard, USA.
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little consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ 
John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com


On Dec 27, 2022, at 7:41 PM, William Outman  
wrote:


I wouldn’t think there would be a problem with the usual audio files 
we come across. Audio files are smaller than video.

Others can comment further.
Bill Outman


Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 27, 2022, at 4:19 PM, Joe Paton  wrote:

Hello,
Looking through apple's on-line resources, usb and flash card readers
can be connected via the camera kit, and those that may require more
power need the camera kit 3.  So this kit provides connectivity to
either lightening ports, or usb 3 in the cases of recent iphones and
ipads.

Apples guidelines say that these kits can facilitate usb or external 
drives, and or, flash drives.  What concerns me, is that although 
mention is made of the ability to view photo file types, no mention 
is made of accessing audio files.
is there a connector either third partyy or via apple, connector 
that will allow me to access audio books on a USB device, or CF card 
reader connected to an iphone 12, or ipad with a usb 3 port?


Sorry for the rambling nature of this question.

Thanks.
Happy new year to all.

Joe

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Re: connecting external devices to Iphone or Ipad

[Alex Stone]

Richard, any chance of a link to the Apple one please?

Sent from my iPhone

On 28 Dec 2022, at 14:51, Richard Turner  wrote:

 The one Apple sells for either USB or SD card connection works fine with 
books.
On a phone, it always requires external power.
The iPad should be able to handle them without external power.
Now, if you plug in an external drive like a 1 or 2, or more TB hard drive, you 
will need extra power I think even with an iPad.

HTH,




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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com


On Dec 27, 2022, at 7:41 PM, William Outman  wrote:

I wouldn’t think there would be a problem with the usual audio files we come 
across. Audio files are smaller than video.
Others can comment further.
Bill Outman


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 27, 2022, at 4:19 PM, Joe Paton  wrote:

Hello,
Looking through apple's on-line resources, usb and flash card readers
can be connected via the camera kit, and those that may require more
power need the camera kit 3.  So this kit provides connectivity to
either lightening ports, or usb 3 in the cases of recent iphones and
ipads.

Apples guidelines say that these kits can facilitate usb or external drives, 
and or, flash drives.  What concerns me, is that although mention is made of 
the ability to view photo file types, no mention is made of accessing audio 
files.
is there a connector either third partyy or via apple, connector that will 
allow me to access audio books on a USB device, or CF card reader connected to 
an iphone 12, or ipad with a usb 3 port?

Sorry for the rambling nature of this question.

Thanks.
Happy new year to all.

Joe

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Re: connecting external devices to Iphone or Ipad

[Richard Turner]

The one Apple sells for either USB or SD card connection works fine with books.
On a phone, it always requires external power.
The iPad should be able to handle them without external power.
Now, if you plug in an external drive like a 1 or 2, or more TB hard drive, you 
will need extra power I think even with an iPad.

HTH,




Richard, USA.
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consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com


> On Dec 27, 2022, at 7:41 PM, William Outman  wrote:
> 
> I wouldn’t think there would be a problem with the usual audio files we come 
> across. Audio files are smaller than video. 
> Others can comment further. 
> Bill Outman 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 27, 2022, at 4:19 PM, Joe Paton  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello, 
>> Looking through apple's on-line resources, usb and flash card readers
>> can be connected via the camera kit, and those that may require more
>> power need the camera kit 3.  So this kit provides connectivity to
>> either lightening ports, or usb 3 in the cases of recent iphones and
>> ipads. 
>> 
>> Apples guidelines say that these kits can facilitate usb or external drives, 
>> and or, flash drives.  What concerns me, is that although mention is made of 
>> the ability to view photo file types, no mention is made of accessing audio 
>> files. 
>> is there a connector either third partyy or via apple, connector that will 
>> allow me to access audio books on a USB device, or CF card reader connected 
>> to an iphone 12, or ipad with a usb 3 port? 
>> 
>> Sorry for the rambling nature of this question. 
>> 
>> Thanks. 
>> Happy new year to all. 
>> 
>> Joe 
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Re: connecting external devices to Iphone or Ipad

[William Outman]

I wouldn’t think there would be a problem with the usual audio files we come 
across. Audio files are smaller than video. 
Others can comment further. 
Bill Outman 


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> On Dec 27, 2022, at 4:19 PM, Joe Paton  wrote:
> 
> Hello, 
> Looking through apple's on-line resources, usb and flash card readers
> can be connected via the camera kit, and those that may require more
> power need the camera kit 3.  So this kit provides connectivity to
> either lightening ports, or usb 3 in the cases of recent iphones and
> ipads. 
> 
> Apples guidelines say that these kits can facilitate usb or external drives, 
> and or, flash drives.  What concerns me, is that although mention is made of 
> the ability to view photo file types, no mention is made of accessing audio 
> files. 
> is there a connector either third partyy or via apple, connector that will 
> allow me to access audio books on a USB device, or CF card reader connected 
> to an iphone 12, or ipad with a usb 3 port? 
> 
> Sorry for the rambling nature of this question. 
> 
> Thanks. 
> Happy new year to all. 
> 
> Joe 
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