Re: differences

[Dennis Long]

Based on Jonathan Mosen’s podcast i will  be getting a pro max. I was already laning that way. On Sep 25, 2023, at 2:04 PM, Gerardo Corripio  wrote:The pro apart from a longer-lasting battery, has the new "Action- button, which you can set up for a whole bunch of stuff! Jonathan Mosen has come out with a great episode of his "Living Blindfully" podcast in which he describes his experiences with his new toy. Good luck!GeraEnviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de TelcelEl 25 sep 2023, a la(s) 11:40 a.m., kathymbr...@gmail.com escribió:I want a 15 and was wondering why  people are getting the pro verses the 15? Kathy Brack 



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Re: differences

[Gerardo Corripio]

The pro apart from a longer-lasting battery, has the new "Action- button, which you can set up for a whole bunch of stuff! Jonathan Mosen has come out with a great episode of his "Living Blindfully" podcast in which he describes his experiences with his new toy. Good luck!GeraEnviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de TelcelEl 25 sep 2023, a la(s) 11:40 a.m., kathymbr...@gmail.com escribió:I want a 15 and was wondering why  people are getting the pro verses the 15? Kathy Brack 



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RE: differences

[Sieghard Weitzel]

iPhone 15 Pro has a Slightly better battery
iPhone 15 Pro has the LiDAR sensor which allows for features like door 
detection, instant text recognition using the magnifier app etc. App developers 
can potentially use this and I like having it.
15 Pro has the new action button which you can program to answer/hang up calls, 
trigger the camera and more, regular iPhone 15 does not have it. This is one of 
the features why I definitely would go for a Pro
15 Pro  has the latest A17 chip, the regular iPhone 15 has last year's A16 
chip. In real life this will make little or no difference, however.
15 Pro has a better camera (Pro phones always do, whether this might be a good 
thing or not for a blind person is questionable)
15 Pro has a Titanium frame instead of a stainless steel frame which the older 
Pro phones have. That is noticeable if you compare, for example an iPhone 14 
Pro (206 grams) or 13 Pro (204 grams) and an iPhone 15 Pro (187 grams). It is a 
difference of around 20 grams which is around ¾ of an ounce.
Of course keep in mind that the regular 15, 14 and so on have an aluminum frame 
and not a stainless steel frame and the regular phones are typically slightly 
lighter than the Pro phones. In case of the iPhone 15 (171 grams) and the 
iPhone 15 Pro (187 grams) that difference is 16 grams which is actually just 
over half an ounce or like a tablespoon of water and holding both phones that 
will probably be noticeable.
If you went from an iPhone 13 Pro or 14 Pro to a regular iPhone 15 the weight 
difference is well over an ounce and would be very noticeable, but that upgrade 
does not make all that much sense especially not if you had a 14 Pro which as 
the same processor as the regular 15, but with the 14 Pro you have LiDAR which 
you would lose going to a 15. If you don't ever use it it's not a big deal, but 
if you do it would probably be something you miss.
Once again I feel an upgrade is really justified if you have an iPhone 11 or 11 
Pro or older, definitely if you have an iPhone 8 or older, but then you still 
have to decide if you want to spend very big bucks to go to a 15 Pro since by 
now an iPhone 8 would be worth only maybe $150 if you sold it. If your phone 
needs upgrading but you can get by for another 2 months I think waiting for 
Black Friday/Cyber Monday is the way to go, by then we'll know how well the new 
phones really sell and if providers and stores still have phones like the 13 
Pro in stock you would most likely find some very smoking good deals, but even 
a 14 or 14 Pro then would be available for a much better deal than right now.

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Sent: Monday, September 25, 2023 10:41 AM
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Subject: differences

I want a 15 and was wondering why  people are getting the pro verses the 15?

Kathy Brack

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differences

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I want a 15 and was wondering why  people are getting the pro verses the 15?

 

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RE: Differences in iPhone 14 models

[Sieghard Weitzel]

An interesting concept and to me that totally defeats the purpose of a wireless 
charger. In any case, the charging stand I have on my night table and which can 
charge my iPhone and Apple Watch at the same time would certainly be way too 
big to bring with  you and for me the point is to have something like that in a 
couple of strategic places so I can have it set up all the time, have the 
cables neatly hidden away and use it instantly. I admit that when I travel I do 
for the most part still bring just a wall adapter with multiple USB-A and USB-C 
outlets and a 6 foot Lightning cable which wiorks well in hotels or if I'm 
staying with friends. For on the go or on airplanes I have my external battery 
and a short 6-inch cable.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Barbara 
Stahl
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2023 10:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models

I have a wireless charger, but its not plugged in all the time. I keep it in 
the box that it came with in my backpack.  Whenever I need to charge my phone 
at work I just pull it out set it up and charge my phone. It only takes a 
minute or so to set it up and it works great.  What's more, I have an auterbox 
defender case and the phone charges just fine with it.  So it is possible to 
have a wireless charger with an auterbox case and it is also possible to have 
one without having it plugged in and set up 24 7.   The convinience of this is 
that you don't have to plug in the phone while charging it and if you need to 
do something with the phone while it is charging, you can just pick it up do 
whatever task you need to do with it and then replace it on the charger when 
you are finished.  

> On Apr 1, 2023, at 10:11 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I don't want to have a wireless charger plugged in all the time.  I 
> don't have the set up to have something like a wireless charger always 
> plugged in and set up.  Also, you can't get something like an otterbox 
> case with fast wireless charging.  I wouldn't change my otterbox 
> commuter series case just to have wireless charging.
> 
>> On 4/1/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Then you don't have the right wirless charger, there are some very 
>> good MagSafe ones which charge quite fast. Anyways, if you are in a 
>> real rush for some reason you can always use a cable, but for 
>> every-day charging I find wireless much more convenient especially 
>> since I often want to use my wired Earpods. Usually when I go to bed 
>> I stick my iPhone to my Belkin MagSafe dual charging stand which has 
>> a spot for my Apple Watch just next to the phone charging disk and 
>> then I can use my wired headset. At work I have a wireless charger on 
>> my desk so if I do need to top up the battery I just put it on top and 
>> forget about it.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 11:23 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models
>> 
>> I never use wireless charging.  I can recharge my iPhone so much 
>> faster with a cable then I can with wireless charging.
>> 
>> On 3/30/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> First of all, I never said I think high-speed data transfers aren't 
>>> important for some people. What I said was that I heard Apple is 
>>> limiting the speed of the USB-C port to that of what the Lightning 
>>> port now has.
>>> 
>>> I am also quite convinced that Apple is working towards an iPhone 
>>> without any ports and that just as when they ditched the 3.5mm 
>>> headphone jack, once they do this Samsung and others will follow on 
>>> their heels.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Here a bit more regarding the statement "it may also have dual 
>>> channel satellite navigation, giving location data as accurate as an 
>>> inch compared to the 20 feet single channel offers"
>>> 
>>> One inch accuracy is very difficult to achieve especially in cities 
>>> between tall buildings and while a measurement over a long period of 
>>> time may result in extremely high accuracy, most consumer devices 
>>> cannot do this in most applications or without the euse of 
>>> additional "augmentation 
>>> systems<https://www.gps.gov/systems/augmentations/#:~:text=A%20GPS%2
>>> 0a ugmentation%20is%20any,the%20public%20and%20private%20sectors.>",
>>> here the definition of what that is:
>>> 
>>> A GPS augmentation is any system that aids GPS by providing 
>>> accuracy, integrity, avail

RE: Differences in iPhone 14 models

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The case has no influence over whether you get fast charging or not, that is 
strictly a function of whatever wireless charging pad or stand you buy.
As I said in a couple of other posts, if you have an iPhone 12 or above make 
sure you get a MagSafe charging pad or stand and there are definitely many good 
ones which support fast charging although I believe they may not charge an 
iPhone 14/14 Pro quite as fast as a cable with a 20 or more Watt wall adapter. 
But it is really pretty inconsequential as I find mine charges plenty fast 
enough and if somebody really had to get every last percent out of a limited 
amount of time then you could always plug it in, but that really is what an 
external battery is for. It really is pretty difficult to run your iPhone dry 
nowadays as long as you have even a small external battery with a short 
Lightning cable in your bag.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2023 1:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Differences in iPhone 14 models

Joshua the otterbox cases do support wireless charging.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2023 10:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models

I don't want to have a wireless charger plugged in all the time.  I don't have 
the set up to have something like a wireless charger always plugged in and set 
up.  Also, you can't get something like an otterbox case with fast wireless 
charging.  I wouldn't change my otterbox commuter series case just to have 
wireless charging.

On 4/1/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Then you don't have the right wirless charger, there are some very 
> good MagSafe ones which charge quite fast. Anyways, if you are in a 
> real rush for some reason you can always use a cable, but for 
> every-day charging I find wireless much more convenient especially 
> since I often want to use my wired Earpods. Usually when I go to bed I 
> stick my iPhone to my Belkin MagSafe dual charging stand which has a 
> spot for my Apple Watch just next to the phone charging disk and then 
> I can use my wired headset. At work I have a wireless charger on my 
> desk so if I do need to top up the battery I just put it on top and forget 
> about it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 11:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models
>
> I never use wireless charging.  I can recharge my iPhone so much 
> faster with a cable then I can with wireless charging.
>
> On 3/30/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> First of all, I never said I think high-speed data transfers aren't 
>> important for some people. What I said was that I heard Apple is 
>> limiting the speed of the USB-C port to that of what the Lightning 
>> port now has.
>>
>> I am also quite convinced that Apple is working towards an iPhone 
>> without any ports and that just as when they ditched the 3.5mm 
>> headphone jack, once they do this Samsung and others will follow on 
>> their heels.
>>
>>
>>
>> Here a bit more regarding the statement "it may also have dual 
>> channel satellite navigation, giving location data as accurate as an 
>> inch compared to the 20 feet single channel offers"
>>
>> One inch accuracy is very difficult to achieve especially in cities 
>> between tall buildings and while a measurement over a long period of 
>> time may result in extremely high accuracy, most consumer devices 
>> cannot do this in most applications or without the euse of additional 
>> "augmentation
>> systems<https://www.gps.gov/systems/augmentations/#:~:text=A%20GPS%20
>> a ugmentation%20is%20any,the%20public%20and%20private%20sectors.>",
>> here the definition of what that is:
>>
>> A GPS augmentation is any system that aids GPS by providing accuracy, 
>> integrity, availability, or any other improvement to positioning, 
>> navigation, and timing that is not inherently part of GPS itself.
>>
>> Another article I read says this "Yes, there are GPS systems that can 
>> measure locations with accuracy up to 1 inch. These systems are known 
>> as Real-Time Kinematic (RTK) GPS systems. They
>>
>> use a fixed base station and a mobile receiver to calculate highly 
>> accurate positions."
>>
>> And here a page from the US government website about GPS 
>> accuracy<https://www.gps.gov/systems/gps/performance/accuracy/>, one 
>> highlight here is this:
>>
>> The official GPS site has a good descri

RE: Differences in iPhone 14 models

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I have it and it works great.
But make sure it specifically says "MagSafe, I believe there are older non 
MagSafe models out there.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2023 3:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models

I was thinking of getting a 3-in-one wireless charger for my airpods pro, 
iphone 14 and when I get it, my Apple watch. Think I'll get a later model of 
Apple watch. What do you guys think of the Mophie 3 In One charger, Apple sells 
it for about $150, but I think I can get it for less on Amazon.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 1, 2023, at 1:37 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:
> 
> Joshua the otterbox cases do support wireless charging.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2023 10:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models
> 
> I don't want to have a wireless charger plugged in all the time.  I don't 
> have the set up to have something like a wireless charger always plugged in 
> and set up.  Also, you can't get something like an otterbox case with fast 
> wireless charging.  I wouldn't change my otterbox commuter series case just 
> to have wireless charging.
> 
>> On 4/1/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Then you don't have the right wirless charger, there are some very 
>> good MagSafe ones which charge quite fast. Anyways, if you are in a 
>> real rush for some reason you can always use a cable, but for 
>> every-day charging I find wireless much more convenient especially 
>> since I often want to use my wired Earpods. Usually when I go to bed 
>> I stick my iPhone to my Belkin MagSafe dual charging stand which has 
>> a spot for my Apple Watch just next to the phone charging disk and 
>> then I can use my wired headset. At work I have a wireless charger on 
>> my desk so if I do need to top up the battery I just put it on top and 
>> forget about it.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 11:23 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models
>> 
>> I never use wireless charging.  I can recharge my iPhone so much 
>> faster with a cable then I can with wireless charging.
>> 
>>> On 3/30/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> First of all, I never said I think high-speed data transfers aren't 
>>> important for some people. What I said was that I heard Apple is 
>>> limiting the speed of the USB-C port to that of what the Lightning 
>>> port now has.
>>> 
>>> I am also quite convinced that Apple is working towards an iPhone 
>>> without any ports and that just as when they ditched the 3.5mm 
>>> headphone jack, once they do this Samsung and others will follow on 
>>> their heels.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Here a bit more regarding the statement "it may also have dual 
>>> channel satellite navigation, giving location data as accurate as an 
>>> inch compared to the 20 feet single channel offers"
>>> 
>>> One inch accuracy is very difficult to achieve especially in cities 
>>> between tall buildings and while a measurement over a long period of 
>>> time may result in extremely high accuracy, most consumer devices 
>>> cannot do this in most applications or without the euse of 
>>> additional "augmentation
>>> systems<https://www.gps.gov/systems/augmentations/#:~:text=A%20GPS%2
>>> 0 a 
>>> ugmentation%20is%20any,the%20public%20and%20private%20sectors.>",
>>> here the definition of what that is:
>>> 
>>> A GPS augmentation is any system that aids GPS by providing 
>>> accuracy, integrity, availability, or any other improvement to 
>>> positioning, navigation, and timing that is not inherently part of GPS 
>>> itself.
>>> 
>>> Another article I read says this "Yes, there are GPS systems that 
>>> can measure locations with accuracy up to 1 inch. These systems are 
>>> known as Real-Time Kinematic (RTK) GPS systems. They
>>> 
>>> use a fixed base station and a mobile receiver to calculate highly 
>>> accurate positions."
>>> 
>>> And here a page from the US government website about GPS 
>>> accuracy<https://www.gps.gov/systems/gps/performance/accuracy/>, one 
>>> highlight here is this:
>>> 
>>> The official GPS site has

RE: Differences in iPhone 14 models

[Sieghard Weitzel]

With any non MagSafe compatible phones and chargers you have to make sure the 
phone is positioned really good especially if it has a case. Of course it also 
depends how thick your case is, but while I used a Mophie charging pad with my 
iPhone 11 a lot as well, I found you really have to make sure you don't bump 
the phone once it's on the pad and it started charging. With a MagSafe 
compatible phone like iPhone 12 or above this is not an issue, the magnet is 
fairly strong and the phone just sticks to the charger and it is always in the 
correct position.and cases

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jonathan 
Cohn
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2023 3:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models

I am not very experienced with wireless chargers, but my Muffy three and one is 
not great with my iPhone SE second generation. If I don’t take the case off, 
then it keeps turning charging on and off and doesn’t constantly charge. This 
is not the case when I use my phone with my wife’s wireless charger.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 1, 2023, at 6:12 PM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
> 
> I was thinking of getting a 3-in-one wireless charger for my airpods pro, 
> iphone 14 and when I get it, my Apple watch. Think I'll get a later model of 
> Apple watch. What do you guys think of the Mophie 3 In One charger, Apple 
> sells it for about $150, but I think I can get it for less on Amazon.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 1, 2023, at 1:37 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:
>> 
>> Joshua the otterbox cases do support wireless charging.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2023 10:12 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models
>> 
>> I don't want to have a wireless charger plugged in all the time.  I don't 
>> have the set up to have something like a wireless charger always plugged in 
>> and set up.  Also, you can't get something like an otterbox case with fast 
>> wireless charging.  I wouldn't change my otterbox commuter series case just 
>> to have wireless charging.
>> 
>>>> On 4/1/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> Then you don't have the right wirless charger, there are some very 
>>> good MagSafe ones which charge quite fast. Anyways, if you are in a 
>>> real rush for some reason you can always use a cable, but for 
>>> every-day charging I find wireless much more convenient especially 
>>> since I often want to use my wired Earpods. Usually when I go to bed 
>>> I stick my iPhone to my Belkin MagSafe dual charging stand which has 
>>> a spot for my Apple Watch just next to the phone charging disk and 
>>> then I can use my wired headset. At work I have a wireless charger 
>>> on my desk so if I do need to top up the battery I just put it on top and 
>>> forget about it.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Joshua Hendrickson
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 11:23 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models
>>> 
>>> I never use wireless charging.  I can recharge my iPhone so much 
>>> faster with a cable then I can with wireless charging.
>>> 
>>>> On 3/30/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>> First of all, I never said I think high-speed data transfers aren't 
>>>> important for some people. What I said was that I heard Apple is 
>>>> limiting the speed of the USB-C port to that of what the Lightning 
>>>> port now has.
>>>> 
>>>> I am also quite convinced that Apple is working towards an iPhone 
>>>> without any ports and that just as when they ditched the 3.5mm 
>>>> headphone jack, once they do this Samsung and others will follow on 
>>>> their heels.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Here a bit more regarding the statement "it may also have dual 
>>>> channel satellite navigation, giving location data as accurate as 
>>>> an inch compared to the 20 feet single channel offers"
>>>> 
>>>> One inch accuracy is very difficult to achieve especially in cities 
>>>> between tall buildings and while a measurement over a long period 
>>>> of time may result in extremely high accuracy, most consumer 
>>>> devices cannot do this in most applications or without the euse of 
>>>> additional "augmentation
>>>> systems<https://www.gps

Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models

[Jonathan Cohn]

I am not very experienced with wireless chargers, but my Muffy three and one is 
not great with my iPhone SE second generation. If I don’t take the case off, 
then it keeps turning charging on and off and doesn’t constantly charge. This 
is not the case when I use my phone with my wife’s wireless charger.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 1, 2023, at 6:12 PM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
> 
> I was thinking of getting a 3-in-one wireless charger for my airpods pro, 
> iphone 14 and when I get it, my Apple watch. Think I'll get a later model of 
> Apple watch. What do you guys think of the Mophie 3 In One charger, Apple 
> sells it for about $150, but I think I can get it for less on Amazon.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Apr 1, 2023, at 1:37 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:
>> 
>> Joshua the otterbox cases do support wireless charging.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2023 10:12 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models
>> 
>> I don't want to have a wireless charger plugged in all the time.  I don't 
>> have the set up to have something like a wireless charger always plugged in 
>> and set up.  Also, you can't get something like an otterbox case with fast 
>> wireless charging.  I wouldn't change my otterbox commuter series case just 
>> to have wireless charging.
>> 
>>>> On 4/1/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> Then you don't have the right wirless charger, there are some very 
>>> good MagSafe ones which charge quite fast. Anyways, if you are in a 
>>> real rush for some reason you can always use a cable, but for 
>>> every-day charging I find wireless much more convenient especially 
>>> since I often want to use my wired Earpods. Usually when I go to bed I 
>>> stick my iPhone to my Belkin MagSafe dual charging stand which has a 
>>> spot for my Apple Watch just next to the phone charging disk and then 
>>> I can use my wired headset. At work I have a wireless charger on my 
>>> desk so if I do need to top up the battery I just put it on top and forget 
>>> about it.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Joshua Hendrickson
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 11:23 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models
>>> 
>>> I never use wireless charging.  I can recharge my iPhone so much 
>>> faster with a cable then I can with wireless charging.
>>> 
>>>> On 3/30/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>> First of all, I never said I think high-speed data transfers aren't 
>>>> important for some people. What I said was that I heard Apple is 
>>>> limiting the speed of the USB-C port to that of what the Lightning 
>>>> port now has.
>>>> 
>>>> I am also quite convinced that Apple is working towards an iPhone 
>>>> without any ports and that just as when they ditched the 3.5mm 
>>>> headphone jack, once they do this Samsung and others will follow on 
>>>> their heels.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Here a bit more regarding the statement "it may also have dual 
>>>> channel satellite navigation, giving location data as accurate as an 
>>>> inch compared to the 20 feet single channel offers"
>>>> 
>>>> One inch accuracy is very difficult to achieve especially in cities 
>>>> between tall buildings and while a measurement over a long period of 
>>>> time may result in extremely high accuracy, most consumer devices 
>>>> cannot do this in most applications or without the euse of additional 
>>>> "augmentation 
>>>> systems<https://www.gps.gov/systems/augmentations/#:~:text=A%20GPS%20
>>>> a ugmentation%20is%20any,the%20public%20and%20private%20sectors.>",
>>>> here the definition of what that is:
>>>> 
>>>> A GPS augmentation is any system that aids GPS by providing accuracy, 
>>>> integrity, availability, or any other improvement to positioning, 
>>>> navigation, and timing that is not inherently part of GPS itself.
>>>> 
>>>> Another article I read says this "Yes, there are GPS systems that can 
>>>> measure locations with accuracy up to 1 inch. These systems are known 
>>>> as Real-Time Kinematic (RTK) GPS systems. They
>>>> 
>>>> use

Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models

[CHELA Robles]

I was thinking of getting a 3-in-one wireless charger for my airpods pro, 
iphone 14 and when I get it, my Apple watch. Think I'll get a later model of 
Apple watch. What do you guys think of the Mophie 3 In One charger, Apple sells 
it for about $150, but I think I can get it for less on Amazon.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 1, 2023, at 1:37 PM, Dennis Long  wrote:
> 
> Joshua the otterbox cases do support wireless charging.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
> Hendrickson
> Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2023 10:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models
> 
> I don't want to have a wireless charger plugged in all the time.  I don't 
> have the set up to have something like a wireless charger always plugged in 
> and set up.  Also, you can't get something like an otterbox case with fast 
> wireless charging.  I wouldn't change my otterbox commuter series case just 
> to have wireless charging.
> 
>> On 4/1/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Then you don't have the right wirless charger, there are some very 
>> good MagSafe ones which charge quite fast. Anyways, if you are in a 
>> real rush for some reason you can always use a cable, but for 
>> every-day charging I find wireless much more convenient especially 
>> since I often want to use my wired Earpods. Usually when I go to bed I 
>> stick my iPhone to my Belkin MagSafe dual charging stand which has a 
>> spot for my Apple Watch just next to the phone charging disk and then 
>> I can use my wired headset. At work I have a wireless charger on my 
>> desk so if I do need to top up the battery I just put it on top and forget 
>> about it.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 11:23 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models
>> 
>> I never use wireless charging.  I can recharge my iPhone so much 
>> faster with a cable then I can with wireless charging.
>> 
>>> On 3/30/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> First of all, I never said I think high-speed data transfers aren't 
>>> important for some people. What I said was that I heard Apple is 
>>> limiting the speed of the USB-C port to that of what the Lightning 
>>> port now has.
>>> 
>>> I am also quite convinced that Apple is working towards an iPhone 
>>> without any ports and that just as when they ditched the 3.5mm 
>>> headphone jack, once they do this Samsung and others will follow on 
>>> their heels.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Here a bit more regarding the statement "it may also have dual 
>>> channel satellite navigation, giving location data as accurate as an 
>>> inch compared to the 20 feet single channel offers"
>>> 
>>> One inch accuracy is very difficult to achieve especially in cities 
>>> between tall buildings and while a measurement over a long period of 
>>> time may result in extremely high accuracy, most consumer devices 
>>> cannot do this in most applications or without the euse of additional 
>>> "augmentation 
>>> systems<https://www.gps.gov/systems/augmentations/#:~:text=A%20GPS%20
>>> a ugmentation%20is%20any,the%20public%20and%20private%20sectors.>",
>>> here the definition of what that is:
>>> 
>>> A GPS augmentation is any system that aids GPS by providing accuracy, 
>>> integrity, availability, or any other improvement to positioning, 
>>> navigation, and timing that is not inherently part of GPS itself.
>>> 
>>> Another article I read says this "Yes, there are GPS systems that can 
>>> measure locations with accuracy up to 1 inch. These systems are known 
>>> as Real-Time Kinematic (RTK) GPS systems. They
>>> 
>>> use a fixed base station and a mobile receiver to calculate highly 
>>> accurate positions."
>>> 
>>> And here a page from the US government website about GPS 
>>> accuracy<https://www.gps.gov/systems/gps/performance/accuracy/>, one 
>>> highlight here is this:
>>> 
>>> The official GPS site has a good description of accuracy. It will 
>>> depend on the quality of your equipment, how many satellites are 
>>> visible and processing in your equipment and the quality of the GPS 
>>> signals (direct, reflection, interference).
>>> 
>>> As measured by the Air Force that runs the GPS program, the error 
>>

RE: Differences in iPhone 14 models

[Dennis Long]

Joshua the otterbox cases do support wireless charging.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Saturday, April 1, 2023 10:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models

I don't want to have a wireless charger plugged in all the time.  I don't have 
the set up to have something like a wireless charger always plugged in and set 
up.  Also, you can't get something like an otterbox case with fast wireless 
charging.  I wouldn't change my otterbox commuter series case just to have 
wireless charging.

On 4/1/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Then you don't have the right wirless charger, there are some very 
> good MagSafe ones which charge quite fast. Anyways, if you are in a 
> real rush for some reason you can always use a cable, but for 
> every-day charging I find wireless much more convenient especially 
> since I often want to use my wired Earpods. Usually when I go to bed I 
> stick my iPhone to my Belkin MagSafe dual charging stand which has a 
> spot for my Apple Watch just next to the phone charging disk and then 
> I can use my wired headset. At work I have a wireless charger on my 
> desk so if I do need to top up the battery I just put it on top and forget 
> about it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 11:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models
>
> I never use wireless charging.  I can recharge my iPhone so much 
> faster with a cable then I can with wireless charging.
>
> On 3/30/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> First of all, I never said I think high-speed data transfers aren't 
>> important for some people. What I said was that I heard Apple is 
>> limiting the speed of the USB-C port to that of what the Lightning 
>> port now has.
>>
>> I am also quite convinced that Apple is working towards an iPhone 
>> without any ports and that just as when they ditched the 3.5mm 
>> headphone jack, once they do this Samsung and others will follow on 
>> their heels.
>>
>>
>>
>> Here a bit more regarding the statement "it may also have dual 
>> channel satellite navigation, giving location data as accurate as an 
>> inch compared to the 20 feet single channel offers"
>>
>> One inch accuracy is very difficult to achieve especially in cities 
>> between tall buildings and while a measurement over a long period of 
>> time may result in extremely high accuracy, most consumer devices 
>> cannot do this in most applications or without the euse of additional 
>> "augmentation 
>> systems<https://www.gps.gov/systems/augmentations/#:~:text=A%20GPS%20
>> a ugmentation%20is%20any,the%20public%20and%20private%20sectors.>",
>> here the definition of what that is:
>>
>> A GPS augmentation is any system that aids GPS by providing accuracy, 
>> integrity, availability, or any other improvement to positioning, 
>> navigation, and timing that is not inherently part of GPS itself.
>>
>> Another article I read says this "Yes, there are GPS systems that can 
>> measure locations with accuracy up to 1 inch. These systems are known 
>> as Real-Time Kinematic (RTK) GPS systems. They
>>
>> use a fixed base station and a mobile receiver to calculate highly 
>> accurate positions."
>>
>> And here a page from the US government website about GPS 
>> accuracy<https://www.gps.gov/systems/gps/performance/accuracy/>, one 
>> highlight here is this:
>>
>> The official GPS site has a good description of accuracy. It will 
>> depend on the quality of your equipment, how many satellites are 
>> visible and processing in your equipment and the quality of the GPS 
>> signals (direct, reflection, interference).
>>
>> As measured by the Air Force that runs the GPS program, the error 
>> across the entire constellation of satellites was 2.1 feet, 95% of 
>> the time on 20 April 2021.
>>
>> Also, I hear sometimes people say the US government deliverately 
>> makes the GPS system less accurate; this is not true as of over 20 
>> years ago, specifically in 2000 then President Bill Clinton put a 
>> stop to the so-called "selective availabbility" which was used 
>> throughout the 90's globally to make GPS signals for civilian use 
>> less accurate. On the GPS website it says " The United States has no 
>> intent to ever use Selective Availability again.".
>>
>>
>>
>> What Kelly described is technically called "dual frequency" or

Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models

[Barbara Stahl]

I have a wireless charger, but its not plugged in all the time. I keep it in 
the box that it came with in my backpack.  Whenever I need to charge my phone 
at work I just pull it out set it up and charge my phone. It only takes a 
minute or so to set it up and it works great.  What's more, I have an auterbox 
defender case and the phone charges just fine with it.  So it is possible to 
have a wireless charger with an auterbox case and it is also possible to have 
one without having it plugged in and set up 24 7.   The convinience of this is 
that you don't have to plug in the phone while charging it and if you need to 
do something with the phone while it is charging, you can just pick it up do 
whatever task you need to do with it and then replace it on the charger when 
you are finished.  

> On Apr 1, 2023, at 10:11 AM, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> 
> I don't want to have a wireless charger plugged in all the time.  I
> don't have the set up to have something like a wireless charger always
> plugged in and set up.  Also, you can't get something like an otterbox
> case with fast wireless charging.  I wouldn't change my otterbox
> commuter series case just to have wireless charging.
> 
>> On 4/1/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Then you don't have the right wirless charger, there are some very good
>> MagSafe ones which charge quite fast. Anyways, if you are in a real rush for
>> some reason you can always use a cable, but for every-day charging I find
>> wireless much more convenient especially since I often want to use my wired
>> Earpods. Usually when I go to bed I stick my iPhone to my Belkin MagSafe
>> dual charging stand which has a spot for my Apple Watch just next to the
>> phone charging disk and then I can use my wired headset. At work I have a
>> wireless charger on my desk so if I do need to top up the battery I just put
>> it on top and forget about it.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 11:23 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models
>> 
>> I never use wireless charging.  I can recharge my iPhone so much faster with
>> a cable then I can with wireless charging.
>> 
>> On 3/30/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> First of all, I never said I think high-speed data transfers aren't
>>> important for some people. What I said was that I heard Apple is
>>> limiting the speed of the USB-C port to that of what the Lightning port
>>> now has.
>>> 
>>> I am also quite convinced that Apple is working towards an iPhone
>>> without any ports and that just as when they ditched the 3.5mm
>>> headphone jack, once they do this Samsung and others will follow on their
>>> heels.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Here a bit more regarding the statement "it may also have dual channel
>>> satellite navigation, giving location data as accurate as an inch
>>> compared to the 20 feet single channel offers"
>>> 
>>> One inch accuracy is very difficult to achieve especially in cities
>>> between tall buildings and while a measurement over a long period of
>>> time may result in extremely high accuracy, most consumer devices
>>> cannot do this in most applications or without the euse of additional
>>> "augmentation
>>> systems<https://www.gps.gov/systems/augmentations/#:~:text=A%20GPS%20a
>>> ugmentation%20is%20any,the%20public%20and%20private%20sectors.>",
>>> here the definition of what that is:
>>> 
>>> A GPS augmentation is any system that aids GPS by providing accuracy,
>>> integrity, availability, or any other improvement to positioning,
>>> navigation, and timing that is not inherently part of GPS itself.
>>> 
>>> Another article I read says this "Yes, there are GPS systems that can
>>> measure locations with accuracy up to 1 inch. These systems are known
>>> as Real-Time Kinematic (RTK) GPS systems. They
>>> 
>>> use a fixed base station and a mobile receiver to calculate highly
>>> accurate positions."
>>> 
>>> And here a page from the US government website about GPS
>>> accuracy<https://www.gps.gov/systems/gps/performance/accuracy/>, one
>>> highlight here is this:
>>> 
>>> The official GPS site has a good description of accuracy. It will
>>> depend on the quality of your equipment, how many satellites are
>>> visible and processing in your equipment and the quality of the GPS
>>> signals (direct,

Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models

[Terje Strømberg]

Also there is rumors about the SE4 will be the first iphone with apple gps and 
cellular chip. But not confirmed. The first shut down sound is for iphone 
turning off, the second sound if you still hold down the buttons, is for iphone 
starting up again.
Many thanks






 kl. 16:11 skrev Joshua Hendrickson :
> 
> I don't want to have a wireless charger plugged in all the time.  I
> don't have the set up to have something like a wireless charger always
> plugged in and set up.  Also, you can't get something like an otterbox
> case with fast wireless charging.  I wouldn't change my otterbox
> commuter series case just to have wireless charging.
> 
>> On 4/1/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> Then you don't have the right wirless charger, there are some very good
>> MagSafe ones which charge quite fast. Anyways, if you are in a real rush for
>> some reason you can always use a cable, but for every-day charging I find
>> wireless much more convenient especially since I often want to use my wired
>> Earpods. Usually when I go to bed I stick my iPhone to my Belkin MagSafe
>> dual charging stand which has a spot for my Apple Watch just next to the
>> phone charging disk and then I can use my wired headset. At work I have a
>> wireless charger on my desk so if I do need to top up the battery I just put
>> it on top and forget about it.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 11:23 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models
>> 
>> I never use wireless charging.  I can recharge my iPhone so much faster with
>> a cable then I can with wireless charging.
>> 
>> On 3/30/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> First of all, I never said I think high-speed data transfers aren't
>>> important for some people. What I said was that I heard Apple is
>>> limiting the speed of the USB-C port to that of what the Lightning port
>>> now has.
>>> 
>>> I am also quite convinced that Apple is working towards an iPhone
>>> without any ports and that just as when they ditched the 3.5mm
>>> headphone jack, once they do this Samsung and others will follow on their
>>> heels.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Here a bit more regarding the statement "it may also have dual channel
>>> satellite navigation, giving location data as accurate as an inch
>>> compared to the 20 feet single channel offers"
>>> 
>>> One inch accuracy is very difficult to achieve especially in cities
>>> between tall buildings and while a measurement over a long period of
>>> time may result in extremely high accuracy, most consumer devices
>>> cannot do this in most applications or without the euse of additional
>>> "augmentation
>>> systems<https://www.gps.gov/systems/augmentations/#:~:text=A%20GPS%20a
>>> ugmentation%20is%20any,the%20public%20and%20private%20sectors.>",
>>> here the definition of what that is:
>>> 
>>> A GPS augmentation is any system that aids GPS by providing accuracy,
>>> integrity, availability, or any other improvement to positioning,
>>> navigation, and timing that is not inherently part of GPS itself.
>>> 
>>> Another article I read says this "Yes, there are GPS systems that can
>>> measure locations with accuracy up to 1 inch. These systems are known
>>> as Real-Time Kinematic (RTK) GPS systems. They
>>> 
>>> use a fixed base station and a mobile receiver to calculate highly
>>> accurate positions."
>>> 
>>> And here a page from the US government website about GPS
>>> accuracy<https://www.gps.gov/systems/gps/performance/accuracy/>, one
>>> highlight here is this:
>>> 
>>> The official GPS site has a good description of accuracy. It will
>>> depend on the quality of your equipment, how many satellites are
>>> visible and processing in your equipment and the quality of the GPS
>>> signals (direct, reflection, interference).
>>> 
>>> As measured by the Air Force that runs the GPS program, the error
>>> across the entire constellation of satellites was 2.1 feet, 95% of the
>>> time on 20 April 2021.
>>> 
>>> Also, I hear sometimes people say the US government deliverately makes
>>> the GPS system less accurate; this is not true as of over 20 years
>>> ago, specifically in 2000 then President Bill Clinton put a stop to
>>> the so-called "selective availabb

Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I don't want to have a wireless charger plugged in all the time.  I
don't have the set up to have something like a wireless charger always
plugged in and set up.  Also, you can't get something like an otterbox
case with fast wireless charging.  I wouldn't change my otterbox
commuter series case just to have wireless charging.

On 4/1/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> Then you don't have the right wirless charger, there are some very good
> MagSafe ones which charge quite fast. Anyways, if you are in a real rush for
> some reason you can always use a cable, but for every-day charging I find
> wireless much more convenient especially since I often want to use my wired
> Earpods. Usually when I go to bed I stick my iPhone to my Belkin MagSafe
> dual charging stand which has a spot for my Apple Watch just next to the
> phone charging disk and then I can use my wired headset. At work I have a
> wireless charger on my desk so if I do need to top up the battery I just put
> it on top and forget about it.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 11:23 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models
>
> I never use wireless charging.  I can recharge my iPhone so much faster with
> a cable then I can with wireless charging.
>
> On 3/30/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> First of all, I never said I think high-speed data transfers aren't
>> important for some people. What I said was that I heard Apple is
>> limiting the speed of the USB-C port to that of what the Lightning port
>> now has.
>>
>> I am also quite convinced that Apple is working towards an iPhone
>> without any ports and that just as when they ditched the 3.5mm
>> headphone jack, once they do this Samsung and others will follow on their
>> heels.
>>
>>
>>
>> Here a bit more regarding the statement "it may also have dual channel
>> satellite navigation, giving location data as accurate as an inch
>> compared to the 20 feet single channel offers"
>>
>> One inch accuracy is very difficult to achieve especially in cities
>> between tall buildings and while a measurement over a long period of
>> time may result in extremely high accuracy, most consumer devices
>> cannot do this in most applications or without the euse of additional
>> "augmentation
>> systems<https://www.gps.gov/systems/augmentations/#:~:text=A%20GPS%20a
>> ugmentation%20is%20any,the%20public%20and%20private%20sectors.>",
>> here the definition of what that is:
>>
>> A GPS augmentation is any system that aids GPS by providing accuracy,
>> integrity, availability, or any other improvement to positioning,
>> navigation, and timing that is not inherently part of GPS itself.
>>
>> Another article I read says this "Yes, there are GPS systems that can
>> measure locations with accuracy up to 1 inch. These systems are known
>> as Real-Time Kinematic (RTK) GPS systems. They
>>
>> use a fixed base station and a mobile receiver to calculate highly
>> accurate positions."
>>
>> And here a page from the US government website about GPS
>> accuracy<https://www.gps.gov/systems/gps/performance/accuracy/>, one
>> highlight here is this:
>>
>> The official GPS site has a good description of accuracy. It will
>> depend on the quality of your equipment, how many satellites are
>> visible and processing in your equipment and the quality of the GPS
>> signals (direct, reflection, interference).
>>
>> As measured by the Air Force that runs the GPS program, the error
>> across the entire constellation of satellites was 2.1 feet, 95% of the
>> time on 20 April 2021.
>>
>> Also, I hear sometimes people say the US government deliverately makes
>> the GPS system less accurate; this is not true as of over 20 years
>> ago, specifically in 2000 then President Bill Clinton put a stop to
>> the so-called "selective availabbility" which was used throughout the
>> 90's globally to make GPS signals for civilian use less accurate. On
>> the GPS website it says " The United States has no intent to ever use
>> Selective Availability again.".
>>
>>
>>
>> What Kelly described is technically called "dual frequency" or "multi
>> band"
>> and many of the newer Garmin GPS's including some of Garmin's watches
>> already have this.
>>
>> Here an excerpt from an explanation from the Garmin website:
>>
>>
>>
>> What is Dual Frequency/Multi-Band GPS?
>>
>> 

RE: Differences in iPhone 14 models

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Then you don't have the right wirless charger, there are some very good MagSafe 
ones which charge quite fast. Anyways, if you are in a real rush for some 
reason you can always use a cable, but for every-day charging I find wireless 
much more convenient especially since I often want to use my wired Earpods. 
Usually when I go to bed I stick my iPhone to my Belkin MagSafe dual charging 
stand which has a spot for my Apple Watch just next to the phone charging disk 
and then I can use my wired headset. At work I have a wireless charger on my 
desk so if I do need to top up the battery I just put it on top and forget 
about it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 11:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models

I never use wireless charging.  I can recharge my iPhone so much faster with a 
cable then I can with wireless charging.

On 3/30/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> First of all, I never said I think high-speed data transfers aren't 
> important for some people. What I said was that I heard Apple is 
> limiting the speed of the USB-C port to that of what the Lightning port now 
> has.
>
> I am also quite convinced that Apple is working towards an iPhone 
> without any ports and that just as when they ditched the 3.5mm 
> headphone jack, once they do this Samsung and others will follow on their 
> heels.
>
>
>
> Here a bit more regarding the statement "it may also have dual channel 
> satellite navigation, giving location data as accurate as an inch 
> compared to the 20 feet single channel offers"
>
> One inch accuracy is very difficult to achieve especially in cities 
> between tall buildings and while a measurement over a long period of 
> time may result in extremely high accuracy, most consumer devices 
> cannot do this in most applications or without the euse of additional 
> "augmentation 
> systems<https://www.gps.gov/systems/augmentations/#:~:text=A%20GPS%20a
> ugmentation%20is%20any,the%20public%20and%20private%20sectors.>",
> here the definition of what that is:
>
> A GPS augmentation is any system that aids GPS by providing accuracy, 
> integrity, availability, or any other improvement to positioning, 
> navigation, and timing that is not inherently part of GPS itself.
>
> Another article I read says this "Yes, there are GPS systems that can 
> measure locations with accuracy up to 1 inch. These systems are known 
> as Real-Time Kinematic (RTK) GPS systems. They
>
> use a fixed base station and a mobile receiver to calculate highly 
> accurate positions."
>
> And here a page from the US government website about GPS 
> accuracy<https://www.gps.gov/systems/gps/performance/accuracy/>, one 
> highlight here is this:
>
> The official GPS site has a good description of accuracy. It will 
> depend on the quality of your equipment, how many satellites are 
> visible and processing in your equipment and the quality of the GPS 
> signals (direct, reflection, interference).
>
> As measured by the Air Force that runs the GPS program, the error 
> across the entire constellation of satellites was 2.1 feet, 95% of the 
> time on 20 April 2021.
>
> Also, I hear sometimes people say the US government deliverately makes 
> the GPS system less accurate; this is not true as of over 20 years 
> ago, specifically in 2000 then President Bill Clinton put a stop to 
> the so-called "selective availabbility" which was used throughout the 
> 90's globally to make GPS signals for civilian use less accurate. On 
> the GPS website it says " The United States has no intent to ever use 
> Selective Availability again.".
>
>
>
> What Kelly described is technically called "dual frequency" or "multi band"
> and many of the newer Garmin GPS's including some of Garmin's watches 
> already have this.
>
> Here an excerpt from an explanation from the Garmin website:
>
>
>
> What is Dual Frequency/Multi-Band GPS?
>
> Dual-frequency or "Multi-Band" systems use multiple frequency bands 
> and allow for more consistent tracklogs and improved positioning when 
> using the device in challenging environments.
>
> This means the receiver tracks more than one radio signal from each 
> satellite on different frequencies, which can reduce errors caused by 
> environmental interference.
>
>
>
> What Advantages Do Multi-Band Devices Have Over Other Models?
>
> • More consistent tracklogs and improved positioning when using the 
> device in challenging environments (e.g. around tall buildings in 
> urban canyons as well as tree cover)
>
> • Can achieve accuracy within about +

Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I would never get an iPhone without getting apple care for it.  I can
get replacement batteries for free since I have apple care.  It is
great.  My iPhone 13 pro max has 97% battery health and I've had my
phone since last July.

On 3/30/23, Carolyn Arnold <2carolynarn...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I have a 14 Pro, do not have Apple Care or the insurance from AT
>
> -Original Message-
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>
> Well, if it helps you any, they're all kind of pretty much fully the same
> price tag. As far as the 14s go. The big factory is adding the AppleCare and
> whether you want to do it monthly or pay for the whole shebang. I personally
> have an iPhone 14 and I love the style and the size it works out well for
> me. I'm able to get both my android and my iPhone 14 in the same pocket
> comfortably without losing either one of them.
>
>> On Mar 29, 2023, at 12:02 AM, William Outman 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Okay, I’m ready to make the jump from my 8 Plus soon.
>> I am interested in the iPhone 14 models, but know there are several
>> choices in this family.
>> I need to know the differences in features and prices so I can decide
>> which one to get. That will of course determine what accessories I get.
>> Bill Outman
>>
>>
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RE: Differences in iPhone 14 models

[Carolyn Arnold]

I have a 14 Pro, do not have Apple Care or the insurance from AT 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
joseph hudson
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Well, if it helps you any, they're all kind of pretty much fully the same price 
tag. As far as the 14s go. The big factory is adding the AppleCare and whether 
you want to do it monthly or pay for the whole shebang. I personally have an 
iPhone 14 and I love the style and the size it works out well for me. I'm able 
to get both my android and my iPhone 14 in the same pocket comfortably without 
losing either one of them.

> On Mar 29, 2023, at 12:02 AM, William Outman  wrote:
> 
> Okay, I’m ready to make the jump from my 8 Plus soon. 
> I am interested in the iPhone 14 models, but know there are several choices 
> in this family. 
> I need to know the differences in features and prices so I can decide which 
> one to get. That will of course determine what accessories I get. 
> Bill Outman 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models

[joseph hudson]

Hey, I like that sound too. It works well for me. I hope that they keep it for 
a long while. I know this is going to go way back, but before I got my iPhone, 
and I was using my Sanyo devices, and even my QUALCOMM had i I even liked 
having the tones go off whenever I was in a bad spot for service. That was even 
very helpful. I wish iPhones had something like that.

> On Mar 29, 2023, at 12:48 PM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
> 
> Well, my dad got a good deal since he’s a part of Sam’s Club as a member at 
> least and anyway I got an iPhone 14 and it’s working well for me and I’m 
> totally blind. I do have to say it is much faster than the 8+. I do like the 
> feature where when you power on and off the phone it actually makes a sound. 
> I never got that with the 8+. Yes, it doesn’t have all the bells and whistles 
> like the pro model does but whatever works for you is hell I tend to lean.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2023, at 10:41 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> I would highly recommend you get the iPhone 14 Pro. If you are considering 
>> the iPhone 14 you would be better of to see if you can find an iPhone 13 Pro 
>> instead.
>> The iPhone 14 did not get the newest processor like the iPhone 14 Pro/Pro 
>> Max did and this is the first time that Apple has not put their latest chip 
>> in a new phone. Basically if  you buy an iPhone 14 you get the same 
>> processor as the iPhone 13/13 Pro.
>> One thing the Pro models have (apart from better cameras) is the LiDAR 
>> sensor which allows features like door detection and so on. I assume as time 
>> goes by, more developers may make use of it so I think it's a good thing to 
>> have a phone which has the LiDAR sensor. This means you have to get a Pro 
>> phone, the first one which had this was the iPhone 12 Pro, when the iPhone 
>> 13/13 Pro phons came out the 13 Pro again had it and not the regular 13 and 
>> the same applies to the 14 and 14 Pro, the 14 Pro/Pro Max have the liDAR 
>> sensor and the regular 14 and 14 Plus do not. This is why I feel as a blind 
>> person you are better off with an iPhone 13 Pro over a regular iPhone 14. 
>> Also you probably get a better deal on an iPhone 13 Pro, but I know here in 
>> Canada they are becoming a bit harder to find.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> William Outman
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2023 10:03 PM
>> To: V IPhone List 
>> Subject: Differences in iPhone 14 models
>> 
>> Okay, I’m ready to make the jump from my 8 Plus soon. 
>> I am interested in the iPhone 14 models, but know there are several choices 
>> in this family. 
>> I need to know the differences in features and prices so I can decide which 
>> one to get. That will of course determine what accessories I get. 
>> Bill Outman 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models

[joseph hudson]

Well, if it helps you any, they're all kind of pretty much fully the same price 
tag. As far as the 14s go. The big factory is adding the AppleCare and whether 
you want to do it monthly or pay for the whole shebang. I personally have an 
iPhone 14 and I love the style and the size it works out well for me. I'm able 
to get both my android and my iPhone 14 in the same pocket comfortably without 
losing either one of them.

> On Mar 29, 2023, at 12:02 AM, William Outman  wrote:
> 
> Okay, I’m ready to make the jump from my 8 Plus soon. 
> I am interested in the iPhone 14 models, but know there are several choices 
> in this family. 
> I need to know the differences in features and prices so I can decide which 
> one to get. That will of course determine what accessories I get. 
> Bill Outman 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models

[lenron brown]

uipped to account for and correct errors that can be
>> introduced
>> by atmospheric effects (e.g. ionosphere errors)
>>
>> NOTE: Multi-GNSS satellite systems include GPS, GLONASS, Galileo, QZSS,
>> BeiDou, and IRNSS (NavIC). Some satellite systems are not available in
>> all
>> areas of the globe.
>>
>> For more details, see https://www.gps.gov/systems/gnss/
>>
>>
>>
>> I am sure the iPhone 15 Pro will undoubtedly be a fantastic device, but
>> it
>> seems Apple is differenciating the Pro models more and more from the
>> regular
>> models and then we have rumours of an iPhone 15 Ultra although I also
>> read
>> that this may possibly what Apple will call the iPhone 15 Pro Max and
>> they
>> will give it even more features or make it tougher than the regular
>> iPhone
>> 15 Pro.
>>
>> I guess we have to wait and see, but don't hold your breath that any
>> iPhone
>> in the near future will give you 1 inch GPS accuracy especially not in
>> the
>> places where most people live like cities with tall buildings and many
>> sources of potential interference. For now the next big reveal will be
>> iOS
>> 17 on Monday, June 5 which Apple announced today is when WWDC will start.
>> Then we'll wait another 3 or so months and probably on Tuesday, September
>> 12
>> or so Apple wil lhave the fall hardware reveal although most rumours will
>> have been confirmed at least a few weeks before then.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Kelly
>> Pierce
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 8:48 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models
>>
>>
>>
>> I agree with Joshua that the iPhone 15 Pro is setting up to be a
>> spectacular
>> upgrade. It will have USBC supporting USB 3.2, which is 10 to 20 times
>> the
>> transfer rate of the current USB 2.0 technology. It will be the first
>> smart
>> phone with a three nanometer processor, delivering blazing fast speeds.
>> It
>> may also have dual channel satellite navigation, giving location data as
>> accurate as an inch compared to the 20 feet single channel offers that
>> was
>> in all iPhones before the 14 Pro.
>>
>>
>>
>> Seigard, I disagree about the need for high speed data transfers. I now
>> have
>> 512 GB of storage. Some iPhones have a whole terabyte. With USB 2.0,
>> transferring tens of thousands of music tracks takes several hours. This
>> is
>> also so for sighted people taking uncompressed photos with the
>> 48-megapixel
>> camera or 4k video. They need to move these big photos and videos off
>> their
>> phones and onto their computers for more storage.
>>
>>
>>
>> For blind people, they may want to move a motley Crew discography off
>> their
>> phone after listening to it in the gym five times and change it out for
>> another metal band.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kelly
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/29/23, CHELA Robles
>> mailto:cdrobles...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>> And I’m also considering Getting a new Apple Watch since my Apple
>>
>>> Watch fifth generation died two weeks before Christmas last year I
>>
>>> saved up enough money, thinking about getting the ultra because of a
>>
>>> bigger screen, and the fact that it has two speakers and tactile
>>
>>> buttons. If I type it right if I get it or rather if I purchase it on
>>
>>> April 5 I should have it by my birthday which is April 6. This is
>>
>>> definitely a year of new stuff! Whatever phone model you end up with,
>>
>>> I hope it serves you well. Not everybody can afford the latest and
>>
>>> greatest all the time of everything but I say whatever works best for
>>> you.
>>> I hope it works out for you. Good luck.
>>
>>>
>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>>
>>
>>>> On Mar 29, 2023, at 10:48 AM, CHELA Robles
>>>> mailto:cdrobles...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>
>>>> Well, my dad got a good deal since he’s a part of Sam’s Club as a
>>
>>>> member at least and anyway I got an iPhone 14 and it’s working well
>>
>>>> for me and I’m totally blind. I do have to say it is much faster than
>>
>>>> the 8+. I do like the feature where when you power on and off 

Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models

[Joshua Hendrickson]

ssibly what Apple will call the iPhone 15 Pro Max and they
> will give it even more features or make it tougher than the regular iPhone
> 15 Pro.
>
> I guess we have to wait and see, but don't hold your breath that any iPhone
> in the near future will give you 1 inch GPS accuracy especially not in the
> places where most people live like cities with tall buildings and many
> sources of potential interference. For now the next big reveal will be iOS
> 17 on Monday, June 5 which Apple announced today is when WWDC will start.
> Then we'll wait another 3 or so months and probably on Tuesday, September 12
> or so Apple wil lhave the fall hardware reveal although most rumours will
> have been confirmed at least a few weeks before then.
>
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly
> Pierce
> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 8:48 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models
>
>
>
> I agree with Joshua that the iPhone 15 Pro is setting up to be a spectacular
> upgrade. It will have USBC supporting USB 3.2, which is 10 to 20 times the
> transfer rate of the current USB 2.0 technology. It will be the first smart
> phone with a three nanometer processor, delivering blazing fast speeds. It
> may also have dual channel satellite navigation, giving location data as
> accurate as an inch compared to the 20 feet single channel offers that was
> in all iPhones before the 14 Pro.
>
>
>
> Seigard, I disagree about the need for high speed data transfers. I now have
> 512 GB of storage. Some iPhones have a whole terabyte. With USB 2.0,
> transferring tens of thousands of music tracks takes several hours. This is
> also so for sighted people taking uncompressed photos with the 48-megapixel
> camera or 4k video. They need to move these big photos and videos off their
> phones and onto their computers for more storage.
>
>
>
> For blind people, they may want to move a motley Crew discography off their
> phone after listening to it in the gym five times and change it out for
> another metal band.
>
>
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 3/29/23, CHELA Robles
> mailto:cdrobles...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> And I’m also considering Getting a new Apple Watch since my Apple
>
>> Watch fifth generation died two weeks before Christmas last year I
>
>> saved up enough money, thinking about getting the ultra because of a
>
>> bigger screen, and the fact that it has two speakers and tactile
>
>> buttons. If I type it right if I get it or rather if I purchase it on
>
>> April 5 I should have it by my birthday which is April 6. This is
>
>> definitely a year of new stuff! Whatever phone model you end up with,
>
>> I hope it serves you well. Not everybody can afford the latest and
>
>> greatest all the time of everything but I say whatever works best for you.
>> I hope it works out for you. Good luck.
>
>>
>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>
>>
>
>>> On Mar 29, 2023, at 10:48 AM, CHELA Robles
>>> mailto:cdrobles...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>>>
>
>>> Well, my dad got a good deal since he’s a part of Sam’s Club as a
>
>>> member at least and anyway I got an iPhone 14 and it’s working well
>
>>> for me and I’m totally blind. I do have to say it is much faster than
>
>>> the 8+. I do like the feature where when you power on and off the
>
>>> phone it actually makes a sound. I never got that with the 8+. Yes,
>
>>> it doesn’t have all the bells and whistles like the pro model does
>
>>> but whatever works for you is hell I tend to lean.
>
>>>
>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>
>>>
>
>>>> On Mar 29, 2023, at 10:41 AM, Sieghard Weitzel
>>>> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:
>
>>>>
>
>>>> I would highly recommend you get the iPhone 14 Pro. If you are
>
>>>> considering the iPhone 14 you would be better of to see if you can
>
>>>> find an iPhone 13 Pro instead.
>
>>>> The iPhone 14 did not get the newest processor like the iPhone 14
>
>>>> Pro/Pro Max did and this is the first time that Apple has not put
>
>>>> their latest chip in a new phone. Basically if  you buy an iPhone 14
>
>>>> you get the same processor as the iPhone 13/13 Pro.
>
>>>> One thing the Pro models have (apart from better cameras) is the
>
>>>> LiDAR sensor which allows features like door detection and so on. I
>
>>>> assume as time goes by, more developers may make use of it so I
>

RE: Differences in iPhone 14 models

[Sieghard Weitzel]

mber 12 or so Apple wil 
lhave the fall hardware reveal although most rumours will have been confirmed 
at least a few weeks before then.





-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kelly 
Pierce
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 8:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models



I agree with Joshua that the iPhone 15 Pro is setting up to be a spectacular 
upgrade. It will have USBC supporting USB 3.2, which is 10 to 20 times the 
transfer rate of the current USB 2.0 technology. It will be the first smart 
phone with a three nanometer processor, delivering blazing fast speeds. It may 
also have dual channel satellite navigation, giving location data as accurate 
as an inch compared to the 20 feet single channel offers that was in all 
iPhones before the 14 Pro.



Seigard, I disagree about the need for high speed data transfers. I now have 
512 GB of storage. Some iPhones have a whole terabyte. With USB 2.0, 
transferring tens of thousands of music tracks takes several hours. This is 
also so for sighted people taking uncompressed photos with the 48-megapixel 
camera or 4k video. They need to move these big photos and videos off their 
phones and onto their computers for more storage.



For blind people, they may want to move a motley Crew discography off their 
phone after listening to it in the gym five times and change it out for another 
metal band.



Kelly







On 3/29/23, CHELA Robles mailto:cdrobles...@gmail.com>> 
wrote:

> And I’m also considering Getting a new Apple Watch since my Apple

> Watch fifth generation died two weeks before Christmas last year I

> saved up enough money, thinking about getting the ultra because of a

> bigger screen, and the fact that it has two speakers and tactile

> buttons. If I type it right if I get it or rather if I purchase it on

> April 5 I should have it by my birthday which is April 6. This is

> definitely a year of new stuff! Whatever phone model you end up with,

> I hope it serves you well. Not everybody can afford the latest and

> greatest all the time of everything but I say whatever works best for you. I 
> hope it works out for you. Good luck.

>

> Sent from my iPhone

>

>> On Mar 29, 2023, at 10:48 AM, CHELA Robles 
>> mailto:cdrobles...@gmail.com>> wrote:

>>

>> Well, my dad got a good deal since he’s a part of Sam’s Club as a

>> member at least and anyway I got an iPhone 14 and it’s working well

>> for me and I’m totally blind. I do have to say it is much faster than

>> the 8+. I do like the feature where when you power on and off the

>> phone it actually makes a sound. I never got that with the 8+. Yes,

>> it doesn’t have all the bells and whistles like the pro model does

>> but whatever works for you is hell I tend to lean.

>>

>> Sent from my iPhone

>>

>>> On Mar 29, 2023, at 10:41 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
>>> mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

>>>

>>> I would highly recommend you get the iPhone 14 Pro. If you are

>>> considering the iPhone 14 you would be better of to see if you can

>>> find an iPhone 13 Pro instead.

>>> The iPhone 14 did not get the newest processor like the iPhone 14

>>> Pro/Pro Max did and this is the first time that Apple has not put

>>> their latest chip in a new phone. Basically if  you buy an iPhone 14

>>> you get the same processor as the iPhone 13/13 Pro.

>>> One thing the Pro models have (apart from better cameras) is the

>>> LiDAR sensor which allows features like door detection and so on. I

>>> assume as time goes by, more developers may make use of it so I

>>> think it's a good thing to have a phone which has the LiDAR sensor.

>>> This means you have to get a Pro phone, the first one which had this

>>> was the iPhone 12 Pro, when the iPhone 13/13 Pro phons came out the

>>> 13 Pro again had it and not the regular 13 and the same applies to

>>> the 14 and 14 Pro, the 14 Pro/Pro Max have the liDAR sensor and the

>>> regular 14 and 14 Plus do not. This is why I feel as a blind person

>>> you are better off with an iPhone 13 Pro over a regular iPhone 14.

>>> Also you probably get a better deal on an iPhone 13 Pro, but I know here in 
>>> Canada they are becoming a bit harder to find.

>>>

>>> -Original Message-

>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf

>>> Of William Outman

>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2023 10:03 PM

>>> To: V IPhone List 
>>> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>

>>> Subject: Differences in iPh

Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models

[William James]

I would also wait until the iPhone 15 comes out.  You only have six months to 
wait.


Sent from my iPhone Pro Max

> On Mar 29, 2023, at 11:48 PM, Kelly Pierce  wrote:
> 
> I agree with Joshua that the iPhone 15 Pro is setting up to be a
> spectacular upgrade. It will have USBC supporting USB 3.2, which is 10
> to 20 times the transfer rate of the current USB 2.0 technology. It
> will be the first smart phone with a three nanometer processor,
> delivering blazing fast speeds. It may also have dual channel
> satellite navigation, giving location data as accurate as an inch
> compared to the 20 feet single channel offers that was in all iPhones
> before the 14 Pro.
> 
> Seigard, I disagree about the need for high speed data transfers. I
> now have 512 GB of storage. Some iPhones have a whole terabyte. With
> USB 2.0, transferring tens of thousands of music tracks takes several
> hours. This is also so for sighted people taking uncompressed photos
> with the 48-megapixel camera or 4k video. They need to move these big
> photos and videos off their phones and onto their computers for more
> storage.
> 
> For blind people, they may want to move a motley Crew discography off
> their phone after listening to it in the gym five times and change it
> out for another metal band.
> 
> Kelly
> 
> 
> 
>> On 3/29/23, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>> And I’m also considering Getting a new Apple Watch since my Apple Watch
>> fifth generation died two weeks before Christmas last year I saved up enough
>> money, thinking about getting the ultra because of a bigger screen, and the
>> fact that it has two speakers and tactile buttons. If I type it right if I
>> get it or rather if I purchase it on April 5 I should have it by my birthday
>> which is April 6. This is definitely a year of new stuff! Whatever phone
>> model you end up with, I hope it serves you well. Not everybody can afford
>> the latest and greatest all the time of everything but I say whatever works
>> best for you. I hope it works out for you. Good luck.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Mar 29, 2023, at 10:48 AM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Well, my dad got a good deal since he’s a part of Sam’s Club as a member
>>> at least and anyway I got an iPhone 14 and it’s working well for me and
>>> I’m totally blind. I do have to say it is much faster than the 8+. I do
>>> like the feature where when you power on and off the phone it actually
>>> makes a sound. I never got that with the 8+. Yes, it doesn’t have all the
>>> bells and whistles like the pro model does but whatever works for you is
>>> hell I tend to lean.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 29, 2023, at 10:41 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I would highly recommend you get the iPhone 14 Pro. If you are
>>>> considering the iPhone 14 you would be better of to see if you can find
>>>> an iPhone 13 Pro instead.
>>>> The iPhone 14 did not get the newest processor like the iPhone 14 Pro/Pro
>>>> Max did and this is the first time that Apple has not put their latest
>>>> chip in a new phone. Basically if  you buy an iPhone 14 you get the same
>>>> processor as the iPhone 13/13 Pro.
>>>> One thing the Pro models have (apart from better cameras) is the LiDAR
>>>> sensor which allows features like door detection and so on. I assume as
>>>> time goes by, more developers may make use of it so I think it's a good
>>>> thing to have a phone which has the LiDAR sensor. This means you have to
>>>> get a Pro phone, the first one which had this was the iPhone 12 Pro, when
>>>> the iPhone 13/13 Pro phons came out the 13 Pro again had it and not the
>>>> regular 13 and the same applies to the 14 and 14 Pro, the 14 Pro/Pro Max
>>>> have the liDAR sensor and the regular 14 and 14 Plus do not. This is why
>>>> I feel as a blind person you are better off with an iPhone 13 Pro over a
>>>> regular iPhone 14. Also you probably get a better deal on an iPhone 13
>>>> Pro, but I know here in Canada they are becoming a bit harder to find.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>> William Outman
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2023 10:03 PM
>>>> To: V IPhone List 
>>>> Subject: Differences in iPhone 14 models
>>>> 
>>>> Okay, I’m ready to make the jump from my 8 Plus soon.
>>>> I am interested in the iPhone 14 models, but know there are several
&

Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models

[Kelly Pierce]

I agree with Joshua that the iPhone 15 Pro is setting up to be a
spectacular upgrade. It will have USBC supporting USB 3.2, which is 10
to 20 times the transfer rate of the current USB 2.0 technology. It
will be the first smart phone with a three nanometer processor,
delivering blazing fast speeds. It may also have dual channel
satellite navigation, giving location data as accurate as an inch
compared to the 20 feet single channel offers that was in all iPhones
before the 14 Pro.

Seigard, I disagree about the need for high speed data transfers. I
now have 512 GB of storage. Some iPhones have a whole terabyte. With
USB 2.0, transferring tens of thousands of music tracks takes several
hours. This is also so for sighted people taking uncompressed photos
with the 48-megapixel camera or 4k video. They need to move these big
photos and videos off their phones and onto their computers for more
storage.

For blind people, they may want to move a motley Crew discography off
their phone after listening to it in the gym five times and change it
out for another metal band.

Kelly



On 3/29/23, CHELA Robles  wrote:
> And I’m also considering Getting a new Apple Watch since my Apple Watch
> fifth generation died two weeks before Christmas last year I saved up enough
> money, thinking about getting the ultra because of a bigger screen, and the
> fact that it has two speakers and tactile buttons. If I type it right if I
> get it or rather if I purchase it on April 5 I should have it by my birthday
> which is April 6. This is definitely a year of new stuff! Whatever phone
> model you end up with, I hope it serves you well. Not everybody can afford
> the latest and greatest all the time of everything but I say whatever works
> best for you. I hope it works out for you. Good luck.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 29, 2023, at 10:48 AM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
>>
>> Well, my dad got a good deal since he’s a part of Sam’s Club as a member
>> at least and anyway I got an iPhone 14 and it’s working well for me and
>> I’m totally blind. I do have to say it is much faster than the 8+. I do
>> like the feature where when you power on and off the phone it actually
>> makes a sound. I never got that with the 8+. Yes, it doesn’t have all the
>> bells and whistles like the pro model does but whatever works for you is
>> hell I tend to lean.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Mar 29, 2023, at 10:41 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>
>>> I would highly recommend you get the iPhone 14 Pro. If you are
>>> considering the iPhone 14 you would be better of to see if you can find
>>> an iPhone 13 Pro instead.
>>> The iPhone 14 did not get the newest processor like the iPhone 14 Pro/Pro
>>> Max did and this is the first time that Apple has not put their latest
>>> chip in a new phone. Basically if  you buy an iPhone 14 you get the same
>>> processor as the iPhone 13/13 Pro.
>>> One thing the Pro models have (apart from better cameras) is the LiDAR
>>> sensor which allows features like door detection and so on. I assume as
>>> time goes by, more developers may make use of it so I think it's a good
>>> thing to have a phone which has the LiDAR sensor. This means you have to
>>> get a Pro phone, the first one which had this was the iPhone 12 Pro, when
>>> the iPhone 13/13 Pro phons came out the 13 Pro again had it and not the
>>> regular 13 and the same applies to the 14 and 14 Pro, the 14 Pro/Pro Max
>>> have the liDAR sensor and the regular 14 and 14 Plus do not. This is why
>>> I feel as a blind person you are better off with an iPhone 13 Pro over a
>>> regular iPhone 14. Also you probably get a better deal on an iPhone 13
>>> Pro, but I know here in Canada they are becoming a bit harder to find.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> William Outman
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2023 10:03 PM
>>> To: V IPhone List 
>>> Subject: Differences in iPhone 14 models
>>>
>>> Okay, I’m ready to make the jump from my 8 Plus soon.
>>> I am interested in the iPhone 14 models, but know there are several
>>> choices in this family.
>>> I need to know the differences in features and prices so I can decide
>>> which one to get. That will of course determine what accessories I get.
>>> Bill Outman
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
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Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models

[CHELA Robles]

And I’m also considering Getting a new Apple Watch since my Apple Watch fifth 
generation died two weeks before Christmas last year I saved up enough money, 
thinking about getting the ultra because of a bigger screen, and the fact that 
it has two speakers and tactile buttons. If I type it right if I get it or 
rather if I purchase it on April 5 I should have it by my birthday which is 
April 6. This is definitely a year of new stuff! Whatever phone model you end 
up with, I hope it serves you well. Not everybody can afford the latest and 
greatest all the time of everything but I say whatever works best for you. I 
hope it works out for you. Good luck.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 29, 2023, at 10:48 AM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
> 
> Well, my dad got a good deal since he’s a part of Sam’s Club as a member at 
> least and anyway I got an iPhone 14 and it’s working well for me and I’m 
> totally blind. I do have to say it is much faster than the 8+. I do like the 
> feature where when you power on and off the phone it actually makes a sound. 
> I never got that with the 8+. Yes, it doesn’t have all the bells and whistles 
> like the pro model does but whatever works for you is hell I tend to lean.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 29, 2023, at 10:41 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> I would highly recommend you get the iPhone 14 Pro. If you are considering 
>> the iPhone 14 you would be better of to see if you can find an iPhone 13 Pro 
>> instead.
>> The iPhone 14 did not get the newest processor like the iPhone 14 Pro/Pro 
>> Max did and this is the first time that Apple has not put their latest chip 
>> in a new phone. Basically if  you buy an iPhone 14 you get the same 
>> processor as the iPhone 13/13 Pro.
>> One thing the Pro models have (apart from better cameras) is the LiDAR 
>> sensor which allows features like door detection and so on. I assume as time 
>> goes by, more developers may make use of it so I think it's a good thing to 
>> have a phone which has the LiDAR sensor. This means you have to get a Pro 
>> phone, the first one which had this was the iPhone 12 Pro, when the iPhone 
>> 13/13 Pro phons came out the 13 Pro again had it and not the regular 13 and 
>> the same applies to the 14 and 14 Pro, the 14 Pro/Pro Max have the liDAR 
>> sensor and the regular 14 and 14 Plus do not. This is why I feel as a blind 
>> person you are better off with an iPhone 13 Pro over a regular iPhone 14. 
>> Also you probably get a better deal on an iPhone 13 Pro, but I know here in 
>> Canada they are becoming a bit harder to find.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> William Outman
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2023 10:03 PM
>> To: V IPhone List 
>> Subject: Differences in iPhone 14 models
>> 
>> Okay, I’m ready to make the jump from my 8 Plus soon. 
>> I am interested in the iPhone 14 models, but know there are several choices 
>> in this family. 
>> I need to know the differences in features and prices so I can decide which 
>> one to get. That will of course determine what accessories I get. 
>> Bill Outman 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Differences in iPhone 14 models

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It is only cool because it uses a USB-C cable, but it has already been 
confirmed that Apple will throddle the speed of the USB-C connection to the 
same as the Lightning port.
Anyways, who wants to plug in a cable any more, at least I find wireless 
charging is way more convenient and I have a hunch that putting a USB-C port on 
the iPhone 15 is just a temporary fix for Apple to comply with the rules n the 
European Union and that possible as early as the iPhone 16 in 2024 there simply 
won't be a charging port any more at all.
Also, nobody knows if the regular iPhone 15 gets the LiDAR sensor or if Apple 
continues to only put that on the Pro phones and most people who predict what 
Apple will do already say that again the regular iPhone 15 will not get this 
year's latest 3 Nanometer processor and that just as last year, only the Pro 
phones get it and the regular iPhone 15 will get last year's processor which is 
now in the iPhone 14 Pro.
The fact is that in real life and for day-to-day usage it is pretty hard to 
notice the difference anyways. Yes, when I upgraded from my iPhone 11 to the 13 
Pro I noticed things were a bit snappier, apps opened a bit faster and all 
that, but once you get used to it, you hardly notice it.
For Bill who is coming from an iPhone 8 even going to a 13 Pro whichis what I 
would recommend unless he can get a good deal on a 14 Pro, will be a big jump 
and big speed increase as well as battery life will be much better.
But you will pay top Dollar for the new phones as you always do and for the 
last two upgrades I did, I found going with the previous year's model was a 
much better deal and there is little if anything on an iPhone 14 or 14 Pro I 
felt was worth it compared to the 13 Pro I got for a very good deal.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 1:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models

I'd honestly wait for the iPhone 15 to come out.  Then you'd have USBC charging 
which is going to be so cool.

On 3/29/23, William Outman  wrote:
> Okay, I’m ready to make the jump from my 8 Plus soon.
> I am interested in the iPhone 14 models, but know there are several 
> choices in this family.
> I need to know the differences in features and prices so I can decide 
> which one to get. That will of course determine what accessories I get.
> Bill Outman
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models

[CHELA Robles]

Well, my dad got a good deal since he’s a part of Sam’s Club as a member at 
least and anyway I got an iPhone 14 and it’s working well for me and I’m 
totally blind. I do have to say it is much faster than the 8+. I do like the 
feature where when you power on and off the phone it actually makes a sound. I 
never got that with the 8+. Yes, it doesn’t have all the bells and whistles 
like the pro model does but whatever works for you is hell I tend to lean.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 29, 2023, at 10:41 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> I would highly recommend you get the iPhone 14 Pro. If you are considering 
> the iPhone 14 you would be better of to see if you can find an iPhone 13 Pro 
> instead.
> The iPhone 14 did not get the newest processor like the iPhone 14 Pro/Pro Max 
> did and this is the first time that Apple has not put their latest chip in a 
> new phone. Basically if  you buy an iPhone 14 you get the same processor as 
> the iPhone 13/13 Pro.
> One thing the Pro models have (apart from better cameras) is the LiDAR sensor 
> which allows features like door detection and so on. I assume as time goes 
> by, more developers may make use of it so I think it's a good thing to have a 
> phone which has the LiDAR sensor. This means you have to get a Pro phone, the 
> first one which had this was the iPhone 12 Pro, when the iPhone 13/13 Pro 
> phons came out the 13 Pro again had it and not the regular 13 and the same 
> applies to the 14 and 14 Pro, the 14 Pro/Pro Max have the liDAR sensor and 
> the regular 14 and 14 Plus do not. This is why I feel as a blind person you 
> are better off with an iPhone 13 Pro over a regular iPhone 14. Also you 
> probably get a better deal on an iPhone 13 Pro, but I know here in Canada 
> they are becoming a bit harder to find.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> William Outman
> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2023 10:03 PM
> To: V IPhone List 
> Subject: Differences in iPhone 14 models
> 
> Okay, I’m ready to make the jump from my 8 Plus soon. 
> I am interested in the iPhone 14 models, but know there are several choices 
> in this family. 
> I need to know the differences in features and prices so I can decide which 
> one to get. That will of course determine what accessories I get. 
> Bill Outman 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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RE: Differences in iPhone 14 models

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I would highly recommend you get the iPhone 14 Pro. If you are considering the 
iPhone 14 you would be better of to see if you can find an iPhone 13 Pro 
instead.
The iPhone 14 did not get the newest processor like the iPhone 14 Pro/Pro Max 
did and this is the first time that Apple has not put their latest chip in a 
new phone. Basically if  you buy an iPhone 14 you get the same processor as the 
iPhone 13/13 Pro.
One thing the Pro models have (apart from better cameras) is the LiDAR sensor 
which allows features like door detection and so on. I assume as time goes by, 
more developers may make use of it so I think it's a good thing to have a phone 
which has the LiDAR sensor. This means you have to get a Pro phone, the first 
one which had this was the iPhone 12 Pro, when the iPhone 13/13 Pro phons came 
out the 13 Pro again had it and not the regular 13 and the same applies to the 
14 and 14 Pro, the 14 Pro/Pro Max have the liDAR sensor and the regular 14 and 
14 Plus do not. This is why I feel as a blind person you are better off with an 
iPhone 13 Pro over a regular iPhone 14. Also you probably get a better deal on 
an iPhone 13 Pro, but I know here in Canada they are becoming a bit harder to 
find.

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Outman
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2023 10:03 PM
To: V IPhone List 
Subject: Differences in iPhone 14 models

Okay, I’m ready to make the jump from my 8 Plus soon. 
I am interested in the iPhone 14 models, but know there are several choices in 
this family. 
I need to know the differences in features and prices so I can decide which one 
to get. That will of course determine what accessories I get. 
Bill Outman 


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RE: Differences in iPhone 14 models

[Carolyn Arnold]

I have a 14 Pro, that I traded in my 11 for. I am pleased with it. The 12, 13, 
and 14 Pros and Pro Maxes have the Detection Mode in Magnifier, which is a 
helpful app for a totally blind person. 

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William Outman
Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2023 1:03 AM
To: V IPhone List 
Subject: Differences in iPhone 14 models

Okay, I’m ready to make the jump from my 8 Plus soon. 
I am interested in the iPhone 14 models, but know there are several choices in 
this family. 
I need to know the differences in features and prices so I can decide which one 
to get. That will of course determine what accessories I get. 
Bill Outman 


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Re: Differences in iPhone 14 models

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I'd honestly wait for the iPhone 15 to come out.  Then you'd have USBC
charging which is going to be so cool.

On 3/29/23, William Outman  wrote:
> Okay, I’m ready to make the jump from my 8 Plus soon.
> I am interested in the iPhone 14 models, but know there are several choices
> in this family.
> I need to know the differences in features and prices so I can decide which
> one to get. That will of course determine what accessories I get.
> Bill Outman
>
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Differences in iPhone 14 models

[William Outman]

Okay, I’m ready to make the jump from my 8 Plus soon. 
I am interested in the iPhone 14 models, but know there are several choices in 
this family. 
I need to know the differences in features and prices so I can decide which one 
to get. That will of course determine what accessories I get. 
Bill Outman 


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Re: Differences between watch face, and home of the watch

[Wayne Merritt]

I also like the Infograph watch face. I have it filled with
complications, such as battery status, time/date, next appointment,
Weather Gods conditions, Noise Level detection for the noise in my
environment, Activity rings progress, sunrise/sunset time, and Blood
Oxygen. I think there are other faces available, but this one has
everything I want. Besides, if there are other faces, I usually get
caught up in stuff and forget that I can move between them.

Best,
Wayne Merritt

On 11/1/20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> You always could have Mickey and Mini Mouse, at least since I had my first
> Apple Watch sieries 2, but as far as I am concerned it's one of thoese
> things which are fun for a while but it gets old pretty quick.
> I find the Infograph to be the most useful, you can have I think 8
> complications on it which is about the most I have seen. In any case, since
> you can switch to a different watch face with a 2-finger swipe left or right
> it's not a big deal to use different watch faces for different purposes,
> almost like using multiple desktops in Windows 10. I have the Infograph set
> as my primary watch face, but I have one which I think is called "Activity
> Digital and the Solar Dial and I have it set so I can swipe left with 2
> fingers from Infograph to get to Activity Digital and right with 2 fingers
> from Infograph to get to the Solar Dial. This way either one is just 1
> gesture away. And then as for accessing frequently used apps you can put the
> ones you need most in the dock which you get to by pressing the square
> button.
> For me this dock is a bit like the taskbar in Windows and The full home
> screen with everything is then a bit like the start menu in Windows 10, it
> contains everything, but you rarely need to go there.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon
> A Fogarty
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 6:54 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Differences between watch face, and home of the watch
>
> Richard,
> I'm pretty sure you can get mini mouse now as well.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Sunday, 1 November 2020 9:33 am
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Differences between watch face, and home of the watch
>
> There sure seems to be a lot of faces available for free on the watch.
> I'm leaning toward Mickey Mouse since I never had a Mickey Mouse watch
> growing up, grin.
> Besides, since you can have Mickey say the time, my 4 and 6 year old great,
> great, nephews will enjoy that.
> Frankly, I don't care what it looks like since I have no vision; I just want
> it to be functional.
>
>
>
> Richard
> "He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass
> himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient
> hatreds among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not
> granting grace to others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward
> Herbert
>
> Live long and prosper 
>
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Mervin Keck
> Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 1:29 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Differences between watch face, and home of the watch
>
> Yu have a pretty good idea of the watch face. I am always looking for a
> better face but I never want to go buying new faces just to see if they are
> accessible or if they have the flexibility that I am looking for. Not all
> faces allow for customization or addition of extra complications. The one I
> am using now allowed me to match the color of the face to my sports watch
> band. And it allowed me to choose five complications plus date in addition
> to the time which is the main attraction as you pointed out. I added battery
> status, Dark sky Weather, Reminders, Workout, and Moving but I can change it
> any time I feel like it. I'm on the lookout for one that emphasizes health
> and fitness and plan on just keeping weather and battery plus maybe four
> health and fitness related widget type complications on the face.
> If I press the crown which is that big button on my watch I can bring up the
> home screen where all of my installed apps are ready and waiting. I can then
> just swipe left and right and scroll right through them and tap the one I
> want to activate.
> I have found the ECG and blood Oxygen apps to be very handy since getting my
> Series six as I am diabetic and I have a Seizure disorder. I'm hoping not to
> ever use the fall detection during a grand mal.
> Merv
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegro

RE: Differences between watch face, and home of the watch

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You always could have Mickey and Mini Mouse, at least since I had my first 
Apple Watch sieries 2, but as far as I am concerned it's one of thoese things 
which are fun for a while but it gets old pretty quick.
I find the Infograph to be the most useful, you can have I think 8 
complications on it which is about the most I have seen. In any case, since you 
can switch to a different watch face with a 2-finger swipe left or right it's 
not a big deal to use different watch faces for different purposes, almost like 
using multiple desktops in Windows 10. I have the Infograph set as my primary 
watch face, but I have one which I think is called "Activity Digital and the 
Solar Dial and I have it set so I can swipe left with 2 fingers from Infograph 
to get to Activity Digital and right with 2 fingers from Infograph to get to 
the Solar Dial. This way either one is just 1 gesture away. And then as for 
accessing frequently used apps you can put the ones you need most in the dock 
which you get to by pressing the square button.
For me this dock is a bit like the taskbar in Windows and The full home screen 
with everything is then a bit like the start menu in Windows 10, it contains 
everything, but you rarely need to go there.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 6:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Differences between watch face, and home of the watch

Richard,
I'm pretty sure you can get mini mouse now as well.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, 1 November 2020 9:33 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Differences between watch face, and home of the watch

There sure seems to be a lot of faces available for free on the watch.
I'm leaning toward Mickey Mouse since I never had a Mickey Mouse watch growing 
up, grin.
Besides, since you can have Mickey say the time, my 4 and 6 year old great, 
great, nephews will enjoy that.
Frankly, I don't care what it looks like since I have no vision; I just want it 
to be functional.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper  

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mervin 
Keck
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 1:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Differences between watch face, and home of the watch

Yu have a pretty good idea of the watch face. I am always looking for a better 
face but I never want to go buying new faces just to see if they are accessible 
or if they have the flexibility that I am looking for. Not all faces allow for 
customization or addition of extra complications. The one I am using now 
allowed me to match the color of the face to my sports watch band. And it 
allowed me to choose five complications plus date in addition to the time which 
is the main attraction as you pointed out. I added battery status, Dark sky 
Weather, Reminders, Workout, and Moving but I can change it any time I feel 
like it. I'm on the lookout for one that emphasizes health and fitness and plan 
on just keeping weather and battery plus maybe four health and fitness related 
widget type complications on the face.
If I press the crown which is that big button on my watch I can bring up the 
home screen where all of my installed apps are ready and waiting. I can then 
just swipe left and right and scroll right through them and tap the one I want 
to activate.
I have found the ECG and blood Oxygen apps to be very handy since getting my 
Series six as I am diabetic and I have a Seizure disorder. I'm hoping not to 
ever use the fall detection during a grand mal. 
Merv



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 2:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Differences between watch face, and home of the watch

Yes, as I understand it, the watch face is like your traditional watch with 
extras.
The time is pretty obviously the main feature, but you can add 
items/complications, at various points around the watch face to have quick 
access to other information.  If I am right, those are like the widgets on the 
iPhone.
I won't have my watch yet for a couple of weeks, but that is my understanding 
and am happy to hear more and better explanations.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted exte

RE: Differences between watch face, and home of the watch

[Simon A Fogarty]

Richard,
I'm pretty sure you can get mini mouse now as well.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, 1 November 2020 9:33 am
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Differences between watch face, and home of the watch

There sure seems to be a lot of faces available for free on the watch.
I'm leaning toward Mickey Mouse since I never had a Mickey Mouse watch growing 
up, grin.
Besides, since you can have Mickey say the time, my 4 and 6 year old great, 
great, nephews will enjoy that.
Frankly, I don't care what it looks like since I have no vision; I just want it 
to be functional.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper  

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mervin 
Keck
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 1:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Differences between watch face, and home of the watch

Yu have a pretty good idea of the watch face. I am always looking for a better 
face but I never want to go buying new faces just to see if they are accessible 
or if they have the flexibility that I am looking for. Not all faces allow for 
customization or addition of extra complications. The one I am using now 
allowed me to match the color of the face to my sports watch band. And it 
allowed me to choose five complications plus date in addition to the time which 
is the main attraction as you pointed out. I added battery status, Dark sky 
Weather, Reminders, Workout, and Moving but I can change it any time I feel 
like it. I'm on the lookout for one that emphasizes health and fitness and plan 
on just keeping weather and battery plus maybe four health and fitness related 
widget type complications on the face.
If I press the crown which is that big button on my watch I can bring up the 
home screen where all of my installed apps are ready and waiting. I can then 
just swipe left and right and scroll right through them and tap the one I want 
to activate.
I have found the ECG and blood Oxygen apps to be very handy since getting my 
Series six as I am diabetic and I have a Seizure disorder. I'm hoping not to 
ever use the fall detection during a grand mal. 
Merv



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 2:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Differences between watch face, and home of the watch

Yes, as I understand it, the watch face is like your traditional watch with 
extras.
The time is pretty obviously the main feature, but you can add 
items/complications, at various points around the watch face to have quick 
access to other information.  If I am right, those are like the widgets on the 
iPhone.
I won't have my watch yet for a couple of weeks, but that is my understanding 
and am happy to hear more and better explanations.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper  

Check out my web site at: 
https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C7962106628174887215908d87ddba5bf%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637397729608240341%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=wi96A10xwSQ7bzYW3L5uK3bSSvfAgtn5vHOWnmG3uzU%3Dreserved=0

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Terri 
Stimmel
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 10:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Differences between watch face, and home of the watch

Hello everyone,


This might seem like a silly question. But I am trying to comprehend some 
things. I am trying to get better at understanding my watch, and all the things 
I can do with it.


Ok, so I know I have the watch face. And I understand that there are different 
watch faces I can have, with different complications on them.


So here is where I am a bit confused.


What is the difference between the watch face, and the home screen?


Now I know when I go to the home screen that I can see all my Apps. Well 
several of them. And I can of course access them.


So is the watch face there just so you can see different things? Such as the 
time, and your calendar, and so forth?

How can having several complications set up, come in handy?


I know this all might seem simple for most. And i

RE: Differences between watch face, and home of the watch

[Richard Turner]

There sure seems to be a lot of faces available for free on the watch.
I'm leaning toward Mickey Mouse since I never had a Mickey Mouse watch growing 
up, grin.
Besides, since you can have Mickey say the time, my 4 and 6 year old great, 
great, nephews will enjoy that.
Frankly, I don't care what it looks like since I have no vision; I just want it 
to be functional.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper  

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mervin 
Keck
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 1:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Differences between watch face, and home of the watch

Yu have a pretty good idea of the watch face. I am always looking for a better 
face but I never want to go buying new faces just to see if they are accessible 
or if they have the flexibility that I am looking for. Not all faces allow for 
customization or addition of extra complications. The one I am using now 
allowed me to match the color of the face to my sports watch band. And it 
allowed me to choose five complications plus date in addition to the time which 
is the main attraction as you pointed out. I added battery status, Dark sky 
Weather, Reminders, Workout, and Moving but I can change it any time I feel 
like it. I'm on the lookout for one that emphasizes health and fitness and plan 
on just keeping weather and battery plus maybe four health and fitness related 
widget type complications on the face.
If I press the crown which is that big button on my watch I can bring up the 
home screen where all of my installed apps are ready and waiting. I can then 
just swipe left and right and scroll right through them and tap the one I want 
to activate.
I have found the ECG and blood Oxygen apps to be very handy since getting my 
Series six as I am diabetic and I have a Seizure disorder. I'm hoping not to 
ever use the fall detection during a grand mal. 
Merv



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 2:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Differences between watch face, and home of the watch

Yes, as I understand it, the watch face is like your traditional watch with 
extras.
The time is pretty obviously the main feature, but you can add 
items/complications, at various points around the watch face to have quick 
access to other information.  If I am right, those are like the widgets on the 
iPhone.
I won't have my watch yet for a couple of weeks, but that is my understanding 
and am happy to hear more and better explanations.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper  

Check out my web site at: 
https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C7962106628174887215908d87ddba5bf%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637397729608240341%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=wi96A10xwSQ7bzYW3L5uK3bSSvfAgtn5vHOWnmG3uzU%3Dreserved=0

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Terri 
Stimmel
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 10:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Differences between watch face, and home of the watch

Hello everyone,


This might seem like a silly question. But I am trying to comprehend some 
things. I am trying to get better at understanding my watch, and all the things 
I can do with it.


Ok, so I know I have the watch face. And I understand that there are different 
watch faces I can have, with different complications on them.


So here is where I am a bit confused.


What is the difference between the watch face, and the home screen?


Now I know when I go to the home screen that I can see all my Apps. Well 
several of them. And I can of course access them.


So is the watch face there just so you can see different things? Such as the 
time, and your calendar, and so forth?

How can having several complications set up, come in handy?


I know this all might seem simple for most. And it is. I get the idea to a 
point. I guess just somehow I am a bit confused. So any help is much 
appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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RE: Differences between watch face, and home of the watch

[Mervin Keck]

Yu have a pretty good idea of the watch face. I am always looking for a better 
face but I never want to go buying new faces just to see if they are accessible 
or if they have the flexibility that I am looking for. Not all faces allow for 
customization or addition of extra complications. The one I am using now 
allowed me to match the color of the face to my sports watch band. And it 
allowed me to choose five complications plus date in addition to the time which 
is the main attraction as you pointed out. I added battery status, Dark sky 
Weather, Reminders, Workout, and Moving but I can change it any time I feel 
like it. I'm on the lookout for one that emphasizes health and fitness and plan 
on just keeping weather and battery plus maybe four health and fitness related 
widget type complications on the face.
If I press the crown which is that big button on my watch I can bring up the 
home screen where all of my installed apps are ready and waiting. I can then 
just swipe left and right and scroll right through them and tap the one I want 
to activate.
I have found the ECG and blood Oxygen apps to be very handy since getting my 
Series six as I am diabetic and I have a Seizure disorder. I'm hoping not to 
ever use the fall detection during a grand mal. 
Merv



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Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 2:02 PM
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Subject: RE: Differences between watch face, and home of the watch

Yes, as I understand it, the watch face is like your traditional watch with 
extras.
The time is pretty obviously the main feature, but you can add 
items/complications, at various points around the watch face to have quick 
access to other information.  If I am right, those are like the widgets on the 
iPhone.
I won't have my watch yet for a couple of weeks, but that is my understanding 
and am happy to hear more and better explanations.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper  

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Terri 
Stimmel
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 10:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Differences between watch face, and home of the watch

Hello everyone,


This might seem like a silly question. But I am trying to comprehend some 
things. I am trying to get better at understanding my watch, and all the things 
I can do with it.


Ok, so I know I have the watch face. And I understand that there are different 
watch faces I can have, with different complications on them.


So here is where I am a bit confused.


What is the difference between the watch face, and the home screen?


Now I know when I go to the home screen that I can see all my Apps. Well 
several of them. And I can of course access them.


So is the watch face there just so you can see different things? Such as 
the time, and your calendar, and so forth?

How can having several complications set up, come in handy?


I know this all might seem simple for most. And it is. I get the idea to 
a point. I guess just somehow I am a bit confused. So any help is much 
appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Re: Differences between watch face, and home of the watch

[Richard Turner]

Is this something anyone can access? If so, what would the link be?




Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

On Oct 31, 2020, at 11:59 AM, Mich Verrier  wrote:

Hi Terri I just put a zip folder of apple watch info in our folder on dropbox. 
It includes different podcasts dun by David woodbrige and text files. My thanks 
to john pearson for this info. From Mich.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Terri 
Stimmel
Sent: October 31, 2020 1:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Differences between watch face, and home of the watch

Hello everyone,


This might seem like a silly question. But I am trying to comprehend
some things. I am trying to get better at understanding my watch, and
all the things I can do with it.


Ok, so I know I have the watch face. And I understand that there are
different watch faces I can have, with different complications on them.


So here is where I am a bit confused.


What is the difference between the watch face, and the home screen?


Now I know when I go to the home screen that I can see all my Apps. Well
several of them. And I can of course access them.


So is the watch face there just so you can see different things? Such as
the time, and your calendar, and so forth?

How can having several complications set up, come in handy?


I know this all might seem simple for most. And it is. I get the idea to
a point. I guess just somehow I am a bit confused. So any help is much
appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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RE: Differences between watch face, and home of the watch

[Mich Verrier]

Hi Terri I just put a zip folder of apple watch info in our folder on dropbox. 
It includes different podcasts dun by David woodbrige and text files. My thanks 
to john pearson for this info. From Mich.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Terri 
Stimmel
Sent: October 31, 2020 1:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Differences between watch face, and home of the watch

Hello everyone,


This might seem like a silly question. But I am trying to comprehend 
some things. I am trying to get better at understanding my watch, and 
all the things I can do with it.


Ok, so I know I have the watch face. And I understand that there are 
different watch faces I can have, with different complications on them.


So here is where I am a bit confused.


What is the difference between the watch face, and the home screen?


Now I know when I go to the home screen that I can see all my Apps. Well 
several of them. And I can of course access them.


So is the watch face there just so you can see different things? Such as 
the time, and your calendar, and so forth?

How can having several complications set up, come in handy?


I know this all might seem simple for most. And it is. I get the idea to 
a point. I guess just somehow I am a bit confused. So any help is much 
appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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RE: Differences between watch face, and home of the watch

[Richard Turner]

Yes, as I understand it, the watch face is like your traditional watch with 
extras.
The time is pretty obviously the main feature, but you can add 
items/complications, at various points around the watch face to have quick 
access to other information.  If I am right, those are like the widgets on the 
iPhone.
I won't have my watch yet for a couple of weeks, but that is my understanding 
and am happy to hear more and better explanations.



Richard
"He that cannot forgive others breaks the bridge over which he must pass 
himself,” and we forget that only grace can break the cycle of ancient hatreds 
among peoples. (It is notable that while I have regretted not granting grace to 
others, I’ve never once regretted extending it.)" - Edward Herbert

Live long and prosper  

Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Terri 
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Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2020 10:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Differences between watch face, and home of the watch

Hello everyone,


This might seem like a silly question. But I am trying to comprehend some 
things. I am trying to get better at understanding my watch, and all the things 
I can do with it.


Ok, so I know I have the watch face. And I understand that there are different 
watch faces I can have, with different complications on them.


So here is where I am a bit confused.


What is the difference between the watch face, and the home screen?


Now I know when I go to the home screen that I can see all my Apps. Well 
several of them. And I can of course access them.


So is the watch face there just so you can see different things? Such as 
the time, and your calendar, and so forth?

How can having several complications set up, come in handy?


I know this all might seem simple for most. And it is. I get the idea to 
a point. I guess just somehow I am a bit confused. So any help is much 
appreciated.


Thank you,


Terri

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Differences between watch face, and home of the watch

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


This might seem like a silly question. But I am trying to comprehend 
some things. I am trying to get better at understanding my watch, and 
all the things I can do with it.



Ok, so I know I have the watch face. And I understand that there are 
different watch faces I can have, with different complications on them.



So here is where I am a bit confused.


What is the difference between the watch face, and the home screen?


Now I know when I go to the home screen that I can see all my Apps. Well 
several of them. And I can of course access them.



So is the watch face there just so you can see different things? Such as 
the time, and your calendar, and so forth?


How can having several complications set up, come in handy?


I know this all might seem simple for most. And it is. I get the idea to 
a point. I guess just somehow I am a bit confused. So any help is much 
appreciated.



Thank you,


Terri

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watch differences between series 2 and later series

[Shirley Healy]

I have a series 2 wifi only apple watch. i got it a couple years ago 
secondhand, to try it out. I havent really used it a lot, but can do basic 
things on it. what I'd love to know is since series 2, what new features are 
there say, in later series, say from 4 onwards?

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RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Simon A Fogarty]

On ear, I'm not sure, I haven't used my on ear headphones from bose for ages,

 But they do have a great sound or at least I feel they have a great sounds,

Really it's up to the individual when it comes to speaker or headset sounds.

Everyone has different thoughts  on what they and how they like to hear audio.

I would highly suggest going to one of your local audio supply stores and 
checking out what they have and what sounds good to you.

 
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Sunday, 5 July 2020 1:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are 
between the versions

by chance are there any on ear headsets with the quality of the air pods? I 
detest ear buds of any kind.
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From: "Simon A Fogarty" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2020 5:08 PM
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are 
between the versions


Well you actually get up to 24 hours of charging out of them due to the 
charging case,

If you can do better with features such as hey siri, Verbal controls for media 
etc then we'd probably like to know.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Friday, 3 July 2020 11:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are 
between the versions

I wouldn't pay $140 for a set of wireless earbuds if I only got about
5 hours of playtime from a single charge.  This is just my opinion.

On 7/3/20, chalt...@gmail.com  wrote:
> I'm not sure if this link will work for you, but here's a link to the 
> Airpods from Best Buy. This doesn't include the wireless charging case 
> but rather just the wired charging case. The price is $140.
> https://www.bestbuy.com/site/apple-airpods-with-charging-case-latest-m
> odel-white/6084400.p?skuId=6084400
>
> It should be pretty easy to make sure you're getting the right 
> product. The price should be around $150, and it should just say 
> Airpods and not Airpod Pros. If you see Airpod Pros, a price of around 
> $250, and features like noise cancellation, transparency mode, and 
> silicon ear tips then your looking at the Airpod Pros and not the Airpods.
>
> --
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> Chaltain at Gmail
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Friday, July 3, 2020 3:16 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
>> differences are between the versions
>>
>> This isn't easy to do as each country has their own website for apple 
>> so you are best to go to your countries apple site, Then check out 
>> the links on the page and there should be at the moment a link to 
>> airpods.
>> Then go to the link for AirPods,
>> Not the AirPod Pro's
>>
>> Then find the buy AirPods link and click on that.
>> The url below might help but it's for the the New Zealand site and 
>> see if it redirects you to your countries site.
>> https://www.apple.com/shop/select-airpods
>>
>> good luck.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Mária Orovcíková
>> Sent: Friday, 3 July 2020 7:15 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
>> differences are between the versions
>>
>> Hello guys,
>> thank you for your help.
>> Please, would anyone be so kind and provide the link for the standard 
>> series 2 earpods so that I know I will get the model I need.
>> Unfortunately, there is no Apple store where I live, so I cannot try 
>> them, I just have to order online and hope I will get what I want.
>> Is it OK to buy the airpods on Amazon or should I buy from Apple store?
>> Speaking of Amazon, I know this question might be off-topic, but I am 
>> just wondering if there is any accessible Amazon price tracker 
>> available , or how do you watch deals on Amazon?
>> Thank you for your help again.
>> Maria
>>
>> On 3. 7. 2020 0:08, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>> > The simple one is that the standard series 2 pods are the same look 
>> > / feel as
>> what is on the wired earpods that would have come with your iPhone or 
>> iPod.
>> >
>> >   They sit in to the entrance of the ear but don't go in to the ear 
>> > canal.
>> >
>> > They don't have noise cancelation and come with eiter a wireless 
>> > charging
>> case or a case that needs to be connected to a usb/ lightening cable 
&g

Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Robert Doc Wright]

by chance are there any on ear headsets with the quality of the air pods? I 
detest ear buds of any kind.
- Original Message - 
From: "Simon A Fogarty" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2020 5:08 PM
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences 
are between the versions



Well you actually get up to 24 hours of charging out of them due to the 
charging case,


If you can do better with features such as hey siri,
Verbal controls for media etc then we'd probably like to know.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Joshua Hendrickson

Sent: Friday, 3 July 2020 11:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences 
are between the versions


I wouldn't pay $140 for a set of wireless earbuds if I only got about
5 hours of playtime from a single charge.  This is just my opinion.

On 7/3/20, chalt...@gmail.com  wrote:

I'm not sure if this link will work for you, but here's a link to the
Airpods from Best Buy. This doesn't include the wireless charging case
but rather just the wired charging case. The price is $140.
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/apple-airpods-with-charging-case-latest-m
odel-white/6084400.p?skuId=6084400

It should be pretty easy to make sure you're getting the right
product. The price should be around $150, and it should just say
Airpods and not Airpod Pros. If you see Airpod Pros, a price of around
$250, and features like noise cancellation, transparency mode, and
silicon ear tips then your looking at the Airpod Pros and not the Airpods.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2020 3:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
differences are between the versions

This isn't easy to do as each country has their own website for apple
so you are best to go to your countries apple site, Then check out
the links on the page and there should be at the moment a link to
airpods.
Then go to the link for AirPods,
Not the AirPod Pro's

Then find the buy AirPods link and click on that.
The url below might help but it's for the the New Zealand site and
see if it redirects you to your countries site.
https://www.apple.com/shop/select-airpods

good luck.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Mária Orovcíková
Sent: Friday, 3 July 2020 7:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
differences are between the versions

Hello guys,
thank you for your help.
Please, would anyone be so kind and provide the link for the standard
series 2 earpods so that I know I will get the model I need.
Unfortunately, there is no Apple store where I live, so I cannot try
them, I just have to order online and hope I will get what I want.
Is it OK to buy the airpods on Amazon or should I buy from Apple store?
Speaking of Amazon, I know this question might be off-topic, but I am
just wondering if there is any accessible Amazon price tracker
available , or how do you watch deals on Amazon?
Thank you for your help again.
Maria

On 3. 7. 2020 0:08, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> The simple one is that the standard series 2 pods are the same look
> / feel as
what is on the wired earpods that would have come with your iPhone or
iPod.
>
>   They sit in to the entrance of the ear but don't go in to the ear
> canal.
>
> They don't have noise cancelation and come with eiter a wireless
> charging
case or a case that needs to be connected to a usb/ lightening cable
to charge.
>
> The pros are a slightly shorter length and have a silicon or latex
> insert that goes in to the ear canal making them in some ways a
> tighter fitting
pod but not everyones feel, The pros have a noise cancelling feature
and a button thing on the side to give what's called transparency
mode that lets you hear outside noise without taking the pods out.
>
> Slightly larger charging case which is both wireless and or wired
> charging .
> Similar leght battery life for both designs, one being 5 hours
> playing and the other 4.5 hours Both forms of case give up to 24
> hours of charging time
>
> So really it comes down to both what you like in the way of feel of
> them in
your ears, and what you wish to pay.
>
> The pros are to get some updates to firmware along with the Ios 14
>   Update that will give them the features of 5.1
> 7.1
> And dolby atmos audio  which is what you get from stand alone
> speakers
>
> I'm not sure but I believe the series 2 standard pods will get
> these updates as
well, but may be not to the same extent.
>
> The other thing to look at / think about are the beats pods, Such
> as the power beats and the power beats pro,
>
>   Larger in size,
> Cheaper in pr

Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Marie]

I thought exactly the same thing. Then I found a special for 125.00 and took 
the chance. I absolutely love the air pods even with the short battery life 
and the unreliability of the switching feature. They will charge in around 
fifteen minutes, I can wear all day with no discomfort. the sound is fine in 
my opinion. I have no hearing in my right ear so do not like noise 
cancelling buds. So they fit my needs so well, I bought a second pair so 
when the battery goes on one, I can switch to the other pair.




Marie
-Original Message- 
From: Joshua Hendrickson

Sent: Friday, July 3, 2020 4:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences 
are between the versions


I wouldn't pay $140 for a set of wireless earbuds if I only got about
5 hours of playtime from a single charge.  This is just my opinion.

On 7/3/20, chalt...@gmail.com  wrote:

I'm not sure if this link will work for you, but here's a link to the
Airpods from Best Buy. This doesn't include the wireless charging case but
rather just the wired charging case. The price is $140.
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/apple-airpods-with-charging-case-latest-model-white/6084400.p?skuId=6084400

It should be pretty easy to make sure you're getting the right product. 
The

price should be around $150, and it should just say Airpods and not Airpod
Pros. If you see Airpod Pros, a price of around $250, and features like
noise cancellation, transparency mode, and silicon ear tips then your
looking at the Airpod Pros and not the Airpods.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2020 3:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
differences are
between the versions

This isn't easy to do as each country has their own website for apple so
you are
best to go to your countries apple site, Then check out the links on the
page and
there should be at the moment a link to airpods.
Then go to the link for AirPods,
Not the AirPod Pro's

Then find the buy AirPods link and click on that.
The url below might help but it's for the the New Zealand site and see if
it
redirects you to your countries site.
https://www.apple.com/shop/select-airpods

good luck.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Mária Orovcíková
Sent: Friday, 3 July 2020 7:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
differences are
between the versions

Hello guys,
thank you for your help.
Please, would anyone be so kind and provide the link for the standard
series 2
earpods so that I know I will get the model I need.
Unfortunately, there is no Apple store where I live, so I cannot try 
them,

I just
have to order online and hope I will get what I want.
Is it OK to buy the airpods on Amazon or should I buy from Apple store?
Speaking of Amazon, I know this question might be off-topic, but I am
just
wondering if there is any accessible Amazon price tracker available , or
how do
you watch deals on Amazon?
Thank you for your help again.
Maria

On 3. 7. 2020 0:08, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> The simple one is that the standard series 2 pods are the same look /
> feel as
what is on the wired earpods that would have come with your iPhone or
iPod.
>
>   They sit in to the entrance of the ear but don't go in to the ear
> canal.
>
> They don't have noise cancelation and come with eiter a wireless
> charging
case or a case that needs to be connected to a usb/ lightening cable to
charge.
>
> The pros are a slightly shorter length and have a silicon or latex
> insert that goes in to the ear canal making them in some ways a tighter
> fitting
pod but not everyones feel, The pros have a noise cancelling feature and
a
button thing on the side to give what's called transparency mode that 
lets

you
hear outside noise without taking the pods out.
>
> Slightly larger charging case which is both wireless and or wired
> charging .
> Similar leght battery life for both designs, one being 5 hours playing
> and the other 4.5 hours Both forms of case give up to 24 hours of
> charging time
>
> So really it comes down to both what you like in the way of feel of 
> them

> in
your ears, and what you wish to pay.
>
> The pros are to get some updates to firmware along with the Ios 14
>   Update that will give them the features of 5.1
> 7.1
> And dolby atmos audio  which is what you get from stand alone speakers
>
> I'm not sure but I believe the series 2 standard pods will get these
> updates as
well, but may be not to the same extent.
>
> The other thing to look at / think about are the beats pods, Such as
> the power beats and the power beats pro,
>
>   Larger in size,
> Cheaper in price and for the power beats p

RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Simon A Fogarty]

Well you actually get up to 24 hours of charging out of them due to the 
charging case,

If you can do better with features such as hey siri,
Verbal controls for media etc then we'd probably like to know.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Friday, 3 July 2020 11:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are 
between the versions

I wouldn't pay $140 for a set of wireless earbuds if I only got about
5 hours of playtime from a single charge.  This is just my opinion.

On 7/3/20, chalt...@gmail.com  wrote:
> I'm not sure if this link will work for you, but here's a link to the 
> Airpods from Best Buy. This doesn't include the wireless charging case 
> but rather just the wired charging case. The price is $140.
> https://www.bestbuy.com/site/apple-airpods-with-charging-case-latest-m
> odel-white/6084400.p?skuId=6084400
>
> It should be pretty easy to make sure you're getting the right 
> product. The price should be around $150, and it should just say 
> Airpods and not Airpod Pros. If you see Airpod Pros, a price of around 
> $250, and features like noise cancellation, transparency mode, and 
> silicon ear tips then your looking at the Airpod Pros and not the Airpods.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Gmail
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Friday, July 3, 2020 3:16 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
>> differences are between the versions
>>
>> This isn't easy to do as each country has their own website for apple 
>> so you are best to go to your countries apple site, Then check out 
>> the links on the page and there should be at the moment a link to 
>> airpods.
>> Then go to the link for AirPods,
>> Not the AirPod Pro's
>>
>> Then find the buy AirPods link and click on that.
>> The url below might help but it's for the the New Zealand site and 
>> see if it redirects you to your countries site.
>> https://www.apple.com/shop/select-airpods
>>
>> good luck.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Mária Orovcíková
>> Sent: Friday, 3 July 2020 7:15 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
>> differences are between the versions
>>
>> Hello guys,
>> thank you for your help.
>> Please, would anyone be so kind and provide the link for the standard 
>> series 2 earpods so that I know I will get the model I need.
>> Unfortunately, there is no Apple store where I live, so I cannot try 
>> them, I just have to order online and hope I will get what I want.
>> Is it OK to buy the airpods on Amazon or should I buy from Apple store?
>> Speaking of Amazon, I know this question might be off-topic, but I am 
>> just wondering if there is any accessible Amazon price tracker 
>> available , or how do you watch deals on Amazon?
>> Thank you for your help again.
>> Maria
>>
>> On 3. 7. 2020 0:08, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>> > The simple one is that the standard series 2 pods are the same look 
>> > / feel as
>> what is on the wired earpods that would have come with your iPhone or 
>> iPod.
>> >
>> >   They sit in to the entrance of the ear but don't go in to the ear 
>> > canal.
>> >
>> > They don't have noise cancelation and come with eiter a wireless 
>> > charging
>> case or a case that needs to be connected to a usb/ lightening cable 
>> to charge.
>> >
>> > The pros are a slightly shorter length and have a silicon or latex 
>> > insert that goes in to the ear canal making them in some ways a 
>> > tighter fitting
>> pod but not everyones feel, The pros have a noise cancelling feature 
>> and a button thing on the side to give what's called transparency 
>> mode that lets you hear outside noise without taking the pods out.
>> >
>> > Slightly larger charging case which is both wireless and or wired 
>> > charging .
>> > Similar leght battery life for both designs, one being 5 hours 
>> > playing and the other 4.5 hours Both forms of case give up to 24 
>> > hours of charging time
>> >
>> > So really it comes down to both what you like in the way of feel of 
>> > them in
>> your ears, and what you wish to pay.
>> >
>> > The pros are to get some updates to firmware along w

Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[lenron brown]

I have the first gen airpods. If I had to pay for them all at once I
wouldn't have considered them worth it either. They are about 2 years
old now and the batteries pretty crappy now. When they die the only
thing I will be able to do is trash tem. I am sure I will wonder where
my money went then. The case is fine but when I am having to charge
them every 2 hours, I am wishing for other had phones.

On 7/3/20, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> I've got a set of wireless earbuds that work well for me, but when I
> get some money together, I will get those anker earbuds I talked
> about.  I just don't have $150 at the moment to spend on them.  I
> really like the fact that the anker buds can do wireless charging as
> well as USBc WHICH is so quick by the way when it comes to recharging
> things.
>
> On 7/3/20, chalt...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> I'm not disagreeing with you, but just in case others don't know, they do
>> come with a small portable case that has a battery in it, so you can
>> easily
>> take the case with you and recharge the Airpods on the fly. I'm seldomly
>> listening to things for five hours straight, so having to pop them into
>> the
>> carry case for 20 minutes or so every three or four hours works for me.
>> The
>> convenience of small ear buds with no wires or bands that I can easily
>> slip
>> into my pocket is worth the inconvenience of having to recharge them
>> every
>> four hours or so. Obviously others may not feel the same way. I did say
>> early on that the price gave me pause, but between coupons and gift cards,
>> I
>> went for it. Not sure if I would have done it if it had all come from my
>> own
>> hard earned dollars.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Gmail
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>> Of Joshua Hendrickson
>>> Sent: Friday, July 3, 2020 6:52 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
>>> differences are
>>> between the versions
>>>
>>> I wouldn't pay $140 for a set of wireless earbuds if I only got about
>>> 5 hours of playtime from a single charge.  This is just my opinion.
>>>
>>> On 7/3/20, chalt...@gmail.com  wrote:
>>> > I'm not sure if this link will work for you, but here's a link to the
>>> > Airpods from Best Buy. This doesn't include the wireless charging case
>>> > but rather just the wired charging case. The price is $140.
>>> > https://www.bestbuy.com/site/apple-airpods-with-charging-case-latest-m
>>> > odel-white/6084400.p?skuId=6084400
>>> >
>>> > It should be pretty easy to make sure you're getting the right
>>> > product. The price should be around $150, and it should just say
>>> > Airpods and not Airpod Pros. If you see Airpod Pros, a price of around
>>> > $250, and features like noise cancellation, transparency mode, and
>>> > silicon ear tips then your looking at the Airpod Pros and not the
>>> > Airpods.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Christopher (AKA CJ)
>>> > Chaltain at Gmail
>>> >
>>> >> -Original Message-
>>> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On
>>> Behalf
>>> >> Of Simon A Fogarty
>>> >> Sent: Friday, July 3, 2020 3:16 AM
>>> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> >> Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
>>> >> differences are between the versions
>>> >>
>>> >> This isn't easy to do as each country has their own website for apple
>>> >> so you are best to go to your countries apple site, Then check out
>>> >> the links on the page and there should be at the moment a link to
>>> >> airpods.
>>> >> Then go to the link for AirPods,
>>> >> Not the AirPod Pro's
>>> >>
>>> >> Then find the buy AirPods link and click on that.
>>> >> The url below might help but it's for the the New Zealand site and
>>> >> see if it redirects you to your countries site.
>>> >> https://www.apple.com/shop/select-airpods
>>> >>
>>> >> good luck.
>>> >>
>>> >> -Original Message-
>>> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On
>>> Behalf
>>> >> Of Mária Orovcíková
>>> >> Sent: Friday, 3 July 2020 7:15 PM
>>> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>

Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I've got a set of wireless earbuds that work well for me, but when I
get some money together, I will get those anker earbuds I talked
about.  I just don't have $150 at the moment to spend on them.  I
really like the fact that the anker buds can do wireless charging as
well as USBc WHICH is so quick by the way when it comes to recharging
things.

On 7/3/20, chalt...@gmail.com  wrote:
> I'm not disagreeing with you, but just in case others don't know, they do
> come with a small portable case that has a battery in it, so you can easily
> take the case with you and recharge the Airpods on the fly. I'm seldomly
> listening to things for five hours straight, so having to pop them into the
> carry case for 20 minutes or so every three or four hours works for me. The
> convenience of small ear buds with no wires or bands that I can easily slip
> into my pocket is worth the inconvenience of having to recharge them every
> four hours or so. Obviously others may not feel the same way. I did say
> early on that the price gave me pause, but between coupons and gift cards, I
> went for it. Not sure if I would have done it if it had all come from my own
> hard earned dollars.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Gmail
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>> Of Joshua Hendrickson
>> Sent: Friday, July 3, 2020 6:52 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
>> differences are
>> between the versions
>>
>> I wouldn't pay $140 for a set of wireless earbuds if I only got about
>> 5 hours of playtime from a single charge.  This is just my opinion.
>>
>> On 7/3/20, chalt...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> > I'm not sure if this link will work for you, but here's a link to the
>> > Airpods from Best Buy. This doesn't include the wireless charging case
>> > but rather just the wired charging case. The price is $140.
>> > https://www.bestbuy.com/site/apple-airpods-with-charging-case-latest-m
>> > odel-white/6084400.p?skuId=6084400
>> >
>> > It should be pretty easy to make sure you're getting the right
>> > product. The price should be around $150, and it should just say
>> > Airpods and not Airpod Pros. If you see Airpod Pros, a price of around
>> > $250, and features like noise cancellation, transparency mode, and
>> > silicon ear tips then your looking at the Airpod Pros and not the
>> > Airpods.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> > Chaltain at Gmail
>> >
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On
>> Behalf
>> >> Of Simon A Fogarty
>> >> Sent: Friday, July 3, 2020 3:16 AM
>> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >> Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
>> >> differences are between the versions
>> >>
>> >> This isn't easy to do as each country has their own website for apple
>> >> so you are best to go to your countries apple site, Then check out
>> >> the links on the page and there should be at the moment a link to
>> >> airpods.
>> >> Then go to the link for AirPods,
>> >> Not the AirPod Pro's
>> >>
>> >> Then find the buy AirPods link and click on that.
>> >> The url below might help but it's for the the New Zealand site and
>> >> see if it redirects you to your countries site.
>> >> https://www.apple.com/shop/select-airpods
>> >>
>> >> good luck.
>> >>
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On
>> Behalf
>> >> Of Mária Orovcíková
>> >> Sent: Friday, 3 July 2020 7:15 PM
>> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> >> Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
>> >> differences are between the versions
>> >>
>> >> Hello guys,
>> >> thank you for your help.
>> >> Please, would anyone be so kind and provide the link for the standard
>> >> series 2 earpods so that I know I will get the model I need.
>> >> Unfortunately, there is no Apple store where I live, so I cannot try
>> >> them, I just have to order online and hope I will get what I want.
>> >> Is it OK to buy the airpods on Amazon or should I buy from Apple
>> >> store?
>> >> Speaking of Amazon, I know this question might be off-topic, but I am
>> >> just wondering if there is any accessible Amazon price tracke

RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[chaltain]

I'm not disagreeing with you, but just in case others don't know, they do come 
with a small portable case that has a battery in it, so you can easily take the 
case with you and recharge the Airpods on the fly. I'm seldomly listening to 
things for five hours straight, so having to pop them into the carry case for 
20 minutes or so every three or four hours works for me. The convenience of 
small ear buds with no wires or bands that I can easily slip into my pocket is 
worth the inconvenience of having to recharge them every four hours or so. 
Obviously others may not feel the same way. I did say early on that the price 
gave me pause, but between coupons and gift cards, I went for it. Not sure if I 
would have done it if it had all come from my own hard earned dollars.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Joshua Hendrickson
> Sent: Friday, July 3, 2020 6:52 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences 
> are
> between the versions
> 
> I wouldn't pay $140 for a set of wireless earbuds if I only got about
> 5 hours of playtime from a single charge.  This is just my opinion.
> 
> On 7/3/20, chalt...@gmail.com  wrote:
> > I'm not sure if this link will work for you, but here's a link to the
> > Airpods from Best Buy. This doesn't include the wireless charging case
> > but rather just the wired charging case. The price is $140.
> > https://www.bestbuy.com/site/apple-airpods-with-charging-case-latest-m
> > odel-white/6084400.p?skuId=6084400
> >
> > It should be pretty easy to make sure you're getting the right
> > product. The price should be around $150, and it should just say
> > Airpods and not Airpod Pros. If you see Airpod Pros, a price of around
> > $250, and features like noise cancellation, transparency mode, and
> > silicon ear tips then your looking at the Airpod Pros and not the Airpods.
> >
> > --
> > Christopher (AKA CJ)
> > Chaltain at Gmail
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On
> Behalf
> >> Of Simon A Fogarty
> >> Sent: Friday, July 3, 2020 3:16 AM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
> >> differences are between the versions
> >>
> >> This isn't easy to do as each country has their own website for apple
> >> so you are best to go to your countries apple site, Then check out
> >> the links on the page and there should be at the moment a link to
> >> airpods.
> >> Then go to the link for AirPods,
> >> Not the AirPod Pro's
> >>
> >> Then find the buy AirPods link and click on that.
> >> The url below might help but it's for the the New Zealand site and
> >> see if it redirects you to your countries site.
> >> https://www.apple.com/shop/select-airpods
> >>
> >> good luck.
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On
> Behalf
> >> Of Mária Orovcíková
> >> Sent: Friday, 3 July 2020 7:15 PM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
> >> differences are between the versions
> >>
> >> Hello guys,
> >> thank you for your help.
> >> Please, would anyone be so kind and provide the link for the standard
> >> series 2 earpods so that I know I will get the model I need.
> >> Unfortunately, there is no Apple store where I live, so I cannot try
> >> them, I just have to order online and hope I will get what I want.
> >> Is it OK to buy the airpods on Amazon or should I buy from Apple store?
> >> Speaking of Amazon, I know this question might be off-topic, but I am
> >> just wondering if there is any accessible Amazon price tracker
> >> available , or how do you watch deals on Amazon?
> >> Thank you for your help again.
> >> Maria
> >>
> >> On 3. 7. 2020 0:08, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> >> > The simple one is that the standard series 2 pods are the same look
> >> > / feel as
> >> what is on the wired earpods that would have come with your iPhone or
> >> iPod.
> >> >
> >> >   They sit in to the entrance of the ear but don't go in to the ear
> >> > canal.
> >> >
> >> > They don't have noise cancelation and come with eiter a wireless
> >> > charging
> >> case or a case that needs to be connected to a usb/ lightening cable

Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I wouldn't pay $140 for a set of wireless earbuds if I only got about
5 hours of playtime from a single charge.  This is just my opinion.

On 7/3/20, chalt...@gmail.com  wrote:
> I'm not sure if this link will work for you, but here's a link to the
> Airpods from Best Buy. This doesn't include the wireless charging case but
> rather just the wired charging case. The price is $140.
> https://www.bestbuy.com/site/apple-airpods-with-charging-case-latest-model-white/6084400.p?skuId=6084400
>
> It should be pretty easy to make sure you're getting the right product. The
> price should be around $150, and it should just say Airpods and not Airpod
> Pros. If you see Airpod Pros, a price of around $250, and features like
> noise cancellation, transparency mode, and silicon ear tips then your
> looking at the Airpod Pros and not the Airpods.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Gmail
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Friday, July 3, 2020 3:16 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
>> differences are
>> between the versions
>>
>> This isn't easy to do as each country has their own website for apple so
>> you are
>> best to go to your countries apple site, Then check out the links on the
>> page and
>> there should be at the moment a link to airpods.
>> Then go to the link for AirPods,
>> Not the AirPod Pro's
>>
>> Then find the buy AirPods link and click on that.
>> The url below might help but it's for the the New Zealand site and see if
>> it
>> redirects you to your countries site.
>> https://www.apple.com/shop/select-airpods
>>
>> good luck.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>> Of Mária Orovcíková
>> Sent: Friday, 3 July 2020 7:15 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
>> differences are
>> between the versions
>>
>> Hello guys,
>> thank you for your help.
>> Please, would anyone be so kind and provide the link for the standard
>> series 2
>> earpods so that I know I will get the model I need.
>> Unfortunately, there is no Apple store where I live, so I cannot try them,
>> I just
>> have to order online and hope I will get what I want.
>> Is it OK to buy the airpods on Amazon or should I buy from Apple store?
>> Speaking of Amazon, I know this question might be off-topic, but I am
>> just
>> wondering if there is any accessible Amazon price tracker available , or
>> how do
>> you watch deals on Amazon?
>> Thank you for your help again.
>> Maria
>>
>> On 3. 7. 2020 0:08, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
>> > The simple one is that the standard series 2 pods are the same look /
>> > feel as
>> what is on the wired earpods that would have come with your iPhone or
>> iPod.
>> >
>> >   They sit in to the entrance of the ear but don't go in to the ear
>> > canal.
>> >
>> > They don't have noise cancelation and come with eiter a wireless
>> > charging
>> case or a case that needs to be connected to a usb/ lightening cable to
>> charge.
>> >
>> > The pros are a slightly shorter length and have a silicon or latex
>> > insert that goes in to the ear canal making them in some ways a tighter
>> > fitting
>> pod but not everyones feel, The pros have a noise cancelling feature and
>> a
>> button thing on the side to give what's called transparency mode that lets
>> you
>> hear outside noise without taking the pods out.
>> >
>> > Slightly larger charging case which is both wireless and or wired
>> > charging .
>> > Similar leght battery life for both designs, one being 5 hours playing
>> > and the other 4.5 hours Both forms of case give up to 24 hours of
>> > charging time
>> >
>> > So really it comes down to both what you like in the way of feel of them
>> > in
>> your ears, and what you wish to pay.
>> >
>> > The pros are to get some updates to firmware along with the Ios 14
>> >   Update that will give them the features of 5.1
>> > 7.1
>> > And dolby atmos audio  which is what you get from stand alone speakers
>> >
>> > I'm not sure but I believe the series 2 standard pods will get these
>> > updates as
>> well, but may be not to the same extent.
>> >
>> > The other thing to look at / think 

RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[chaltain]

I'm not sure if this link will work for you, but here's a link to the Airpods 
from Best Buy. This doesn't include the wireless charging case but rather just 
the wired charging case. The price is $140. 
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/apple-airpods-with-charging-case-latest-model-white/6084400.p?skuId=6084400

It should be pretty easy to make sure you're getting the right product. The 
price should be around $150, and it should just say Airpods and not Airpod 
Pros. If you see Airpod Pros, a price of around $250, and features like noise 
cancellation, transparency mode, and silicon ear tips then your looking at the 
Airpod Pros and not the Airpods.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Friday, July 3, 2020 3:16 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences 
> are
> between the versions
> 
> This isn't easy to do as each country has their own website for apple so you 
> are
> best to go to your countries apple site, Then check out the links on the page 
> and
> there should be at the moment a link to airpods.
> Then go to the link for AirPods,
> Not the AirPod Pro's
> 
> Then find the buy AirPods link and click on that.
> The url below might help but it's for the the New Zealand site and see if it
> redirects you to your countries site.
> https://www.apple.com/shop/select-airpods
> 
> good luck.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Mária Orovcíková
> Sent: Friday, 3 July 2020 7:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences 
> are
> between the versions
> 
> Hello guys,
> thank you for your help.
> Please, would anyone be so kind and provide the link for the standard series 2
> earpods so that I know I will get the model I need.
> Unfortunately, there is no Apple store where I live, so I cannot try them, I 
> just
> have to order online and hope I will get what I want.
> Is it OK to buy the airpods on Amazon or should I buy from Apple store?
> Speaking of Amazon, I know this question might be off-topic, but I am just
> wondering if there is any accessible Amazon price tracker available , or how 
> do
> you watch deals on Amazon?
> Thank you for your help again.
> Maria
> 
> On 3. 7. 2020 0:08, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> > The simple one is that the standard series 2 pods are the same look / feel 
> > as
> what is on the wired earpods that would have come with your iPhone or iPod.
> >
> >   They sit in to the entrance of the ear but don't go in to the ear canal.
> >
> > They don't have noise cancelation and come with eiter a wireless charging
> case or a case that needs to be connected to a usb/ lightening cable to 
> charge.
> >
> > The pros are a slightly shorter length and have a silicon or latex
> > insert that goes in to the ear canal making them in some ways a tighter 
> > fitting
> pod but not everyones feel, The pros have a noise cancelling feature and a
> button thing on the side to give what's called transparency mode that lets you
> hear outside noise without taking the pods out.
> >
> > Slightly larger charging case which is both wireless and or wired charging .
> > Similar leght battery life for both designs, one being 5 hours playing
> > and the other 4.5 hours Both forms of case give up to 24 hours of
> > charging time
> >
> > So really it comes down to both what you like in the way of feel of them in
> your ears, and what you wish to pay.
> >
> > The pros are to get some updates to firmware along with the Ios 14
> >   Update that will give them the features of 5.1
> > 7.1
> > And dolby atmos audio  which is what you get from stand alone speakers
> >
> > I'm not sure but I believe the series 2 standard pods will get these 
> > updates as
> well, but may be not to the same extent.
> >
> > The other thing to look at / think about are the beats pods, Such as
> > the power beats and the power beats pro,
> >
> >   Larger in size,
> > Cheaper in price and for the power beats pro I think just as good a
> > sound quality as the series 2 pods, There are volume and play / pause
> > and next / back track controls on the power beats pro pods and I
> > believe on the power beats but on a wire that goes around your neck
> > between the two pods,
> >
> > Hooks over the ears to hold them on / in your ears,
> >   And they have the latex insert to the ear canal like the apple
> > airpods pro
> >
> > My suggestion would be 

RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Simon A Fogarty]

This isn't easy to do as each country has their own website for apple so you 
are best to go to your countries apple site,
Then check out the links on the page and there should be at the moment a link 
to airpods.
Then go to the link for AirPods,
Not the AirPod Pro's 

Then find the buy AirPods link and click on that.
The url below might help but it's for the 
the New Zealand site and see if it redirects you to your countries site.
https://www.apple.com/shop/select-airpods

good luck.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mária 
Orovcíková
Sent: Friday, 3 July 2020 7:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are 
between the versions

Hello guys,
thank you for your help.
Please, would anyone be so kind and provide the link for the standard series 2 
earpods so that I know I will get the model I need.
Unfortunately, there is no Apple store where I live, so I cannot try them, I 
just have to order online and hope I will get what I want.
Is it OK to buy the airpods on Amazon or should I buy from Apple store?
Speaking of Amazon, I know this question might be off-topic, but I am just 
wondering if there is any accessible Amazon price tracker available , or how do 
you watch deals on Amazon?
Thank you for your help again.
Maria

On 3. 7. 2020 0:08, Simon A Fogarty wrote:
> The simple one is that the standard series 2 pods are the same look / feel as 
> what is on the wired earpods that would have come with your iPhone or iPod.
>
>   They sit in to the entrance of the ear but don't go in to the ear canal.
>
> They don't have noise cancelation and come with eiter a wireless charging 
> case or a case that needs to be connected to a usb/ lightening cable to 
> charge.
>
> The pros are a slightly shorter length and have a silicon or latex 
> insert that goes in to the ear canal making them in some ways a tighter 
> fitting pod but not everyones feel, The pros have a noise cancelling feature 
> and a button thing on the side to give what's called transparency mode that 
> lets you hear outside noise without taking the pods out.
>
> Slightly larger charging case which is both wireless and or wired charging .
> Similar leght battery life for both designs, one being 5 hours playing 
> and the other 4.5 hours Both forms of case give up to 24 hours of 
> charging time
>
> So really it comes down to both what you like in the way of feel of them in 
> your ears, and what you wish to pay.
>
> The pros are to get some updates to firmware along with the Ios 14
>   Update that will give them the features of 5.1
> 7.1
> And dolby atmos audio  which is what you get from stand alone speakers
>
> I'm not sure but I believe the series 2 standard pods will get these updates 
> as well, but may be not to the same extent.
>
> The other thing to look at / think about are the beats pods, Such as 
> the power beats and the power beats pro,
>
>   Larger in size,
> Cheaper in price and for the power beats pro I think just as good a 
> sound quality as the series 2 pods, There are volume and play / pause 
> and next / back track controls on the power beats pro pods and I 
> believe on the power beats but on a wire that goes around your neck 
> between the two pods,
>
> Hooks over the ears to hold them on / in your ears,
>   And they have the latex insert to the ear canal like the apple 
> airpods pro
>
> My suggestion would be to look on the apple website and have a look at 
> what they say about the 4 design / models and then if possible go to 
> an apple store to have a look at samples of them that you can perhaps 
> try out with real life situations
>
>
> I hope this has been of some help and you can find something you like.
>
> I've got both the series 2 airpods and the power beats pro pods, and although 
> I prefer the airpods because of the size and portability I do use the power 
> beats pro constantly for when I'm out and about.
>
> Good luck.
>
>   -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Priscilla Garces (prisci)
> Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 7:34 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
> differences are between the versions
>
> Hi,
> I have the same question about EarPods too. I would like to know what the 
> difference is between the regular and pro version.
> My iphone doesn’t support the standard 3.5 headphones anymore, and only my 
> iPad does at the moment.
> I intend to use them for zoom conferences, and when i go out, if i do anyway 
> because of this pandemic.
>
> Thank yo, and hope all is well,
>
> Priscilla
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Jul 1, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Jen 

Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Mária Orovčíková]

Hello guys,
thank you for your help.
Please, would anyone be so kind and provide the link for the standard 
series 2 earpods so that I know I will get the model I need.
Unfortunately, there is no Apple store where I live, so I cannot try 
them, I just have to order online and hope I will get what I want.

Is it OK to buy the airpods on Amazon or should I buy from Apple store?
Speaking of Amazon, I know this question might be off-topic, but I am 
just wondering if there is any accessible Amazon price tracker available 
, or how do you watch deals on Amazon?

Thank you for your help again.
Maria

On 3. 7. 2020 0:08, Simon A Fogarty wrote:

The simple one is that the standard series 2 pods are the same look / feel as 
what is on the wired earpods that would have come with your iPhone or iPod.

  They sit in to the entrance of the ear but don't go in to the ear canal.

They don't have noise cancelation and come with eiter a wireless charging case 
or a case that needs to be connected to a usb/ lightening cable to charge.

The pros are a slightly shorter length and have a silicon or latex insert that 
goes in to the ear canal making them in some ways a tighter fitting pod but not 
everyones feel,
The pros have a noise cancelling feature and a button thing on the side to give 
what's called transparency mode that lets you hear outside noise without taking 
the pods out.

Slightly larger charging case which is both wireless and or wired charging .
Similar leght battery life for both designs, one being 5 hours playing and the 
other 4.5 hours
Both forms of case give up to 24 hours of charging time

So really it comes down to both what you like in the way of feel of them in 
your ears, and what you wish to pay.

The pros are to get some updates to firmware along with the Ios 14
  Update that will give them the features of 5.1
7.1
And dolby atmos audio  which is what you get from stand alone speakers

I'm not sure but I believe the series 2 standard pods will get these updates as 
well, but may be not to the same extent.

The other thing to look at / think about are the beats pods,
Such as the power beats and the power beats pro,

  Larger in size,
Cheaper in price and for the power beats pro I think just as good a sound 
quality as the series 2 pods,
There are volume and play / pause and next / back track controls on the power 
beats pro pods and I believe on the power beats but on a wire that goes around 
your neck between the two pods,

Hooks over the ears to hold them on / in your ears,
  And they have the latex insert to the ear canal like the apple airpods pro

My suggestion would be to look on the apple website and have a look at what 
they say about the 4 design / models and then if possible go to an apple store 
to have a look at samples of them that you can perhaps try out with real life 
situations


I hope this has been of some help and you can find something you like.

I've got both the series 2 airpods and the power beats pro pods, and although I 
prefer the airpods because of the size and portability I do use the power beats 
pro constantly for when I'm out and about.

Good luck.

  -Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Priscilla Garces (prisci)
Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 7:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are 
between the versions

Hi,
I have the same question about EarPods too. I would like to know what the 
difference is between the regular and pro version.
My iphone doesn’t support the standard 3.5 headphones anymore, and only my iPad 
does at the moment.
I intend to use them for zoom conferences, and when i go out, if i do anyway 
because of this pandemic.

Thank yo, and hope all is well,

Priscilla



Sent from my iPad


On Jul 1, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Jen .  wrote:

Hi thinking of purchasing air pods but wondering the differences between the 
versions and why 1 would choose one over the other.
Thanks.
Jen

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RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Simon A Fogarty]

Actually this is now not true,

The pods do switch automatically 
This has been problematic but is now working 

Although isn't perfect it is working now.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, 3 July 2020 1:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are 
between the versions

Remember that the Airpods will not switch seamlessly/automatically and 
instantly between your iPhone and Apple Watch.
They are Apple's own product and are supposed the most advanced Bluetooth 
earbuds out there yet pretty much any other Bluetooth headset will do this so I 
am not quite sure how this works and how Apple justifies this. I have a Voyager 
Edge single earpiece and if I pair it to both my iPhone and Apple Watch, I can 
be listening to an audio book on my iPhone using the earpiece and as soon as I 
do something on my watch the book stops and it switches to my watch, once I 
stop the book plays again as soon as the watch locks.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mária 
Orovcíková
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 6:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are 
between the versions

Hi Sieghard and all,
Yes, I need a wireless headset that can be instantly and seamlesly switched 
between my Iphone and Apple watch.
When I checked and compared prices of Plantronics and airpods, the airpods cost 
about 30 euros more than Plantronics here in Slovakia, to not decided yet which 
model I am going to buy.
Please, Are there any other models available that has this feature?
Thanks in advance.
Maria

On 2. 7. 2020 15:15, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:
> Another option is to not get any kind of apple airpods at all.  There 
> are some very nice wireless earbuds that are much cheaper but do sound 
> very good.  There is a set of wireless earbuds from anker for around
> $60 that can last up to 7 hours on a single charge.  I've got a set of 
> wireless earbuds that work by touch controls and do sound very nice.
> Just check sites like amazon and do a bit of research.  Also, check 
> sites like youtube for product reviews which are all over youtube.
> Anker really does make some great inexpensive products but don't sound 
> like crap.  I just got an anker Icon speaker which is a small portable 
> speaker for around $38 that though portable sounds great and I really 
> like it.
>
> On 7/2/20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> And the original poster should also take into consideration that 
>> Apple apparently is going to introduce a bunch of cool new features 
>> which you may or may not get with the regular Airpods. I assume if 
>> you do get them that there might be a new generation of regular 
>> Airpods coming out, but of course that is just speculation. Despite 
>> the fact how so many people like the Airpods, regular or Pro, I still 
>> believe that for me they are not worth the price especially not until 
>> they figure out how they seamlessly and instantly switch back and forth 
>> between your iPhone and Apple Watch.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 4:17 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
>> differences are between the versions
>>
>> Sorry yes,
>> My mistake,
>>
>> I meant to say don't go for the airpod  pros as they have the in to 
>> your ear canel feature Stay with the airpod series 2 as they are what you 
>> mentioned.
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of chalt...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 11:10 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
>> differences are between the versions
>>
>> I think Simon is steering you in the right direction. You don't want 
>> the Airpod Pros but the Airpods, as Simon describes below. You asked 
>> if you can use them while they're in the charging case, and the 
>> answer is no you cannot. You cannot place them in your ear while 
>> they're in the charging case, and when you place the Airpods in the 
>> charging case the Bluetooth connection is shutdown.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Gmail
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 5:54 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: T

RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Simon A Fogarty]

I can confirm that the seamless switching back and forth is working between 
devices and the series 2 pods,

 Just not all the time or correctly as quickly as we might need.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Friday, 3 July 2020 1:02 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are 
between the versions

And the original poster should also take into consideration that Apple 
apparently is going to introduce a bunch of cool new features which you may or 
may not get with the regular Airpods. I assume if you do get them that there 
might be a new generation of regular Airpods coming out, but of course that is 
just speculation. Despite the fact how so many people like the Airpods, regular 
or Pro, I still believe that for me they are not worth the price especially not 
until they figure out how they seamlessly and instantly switch back and forth 
between your iPhone and Apple Watch.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 4:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are 
between the versions

Sorry yes,
My mistake,

I meant to say don't go for the airpod  pros as they have the in to your ear 
canel feature Stay with the airpod series 2 as they are what you mentioned.

Good luck.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chalt...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 11:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are 
between the versions

I think Simon is steering you in the right direction. You don't want the Airpod 
Pros but the Airpods, as Simon describes below. You asked if you can use them 
while they're in the charging case, and the answer is no you cannot. You cannot 
place them in your ear while they're in the charging case, and when you place 
the Airpods in the charging case the Bluetooth connection is shutdown.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 5:54 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
> differences are between the versions
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The original airpods or what are now known as the series 2 airpods are 
> what you are thinking of I believe.
> 
> These are the ones that look like apple have cut the wire off the old 
> wired earpods that use to come with your iphone or ipods
> 
> Now they come in a little flip top case that you can charge with a 
> standard iphone  lightening cable Or if you wish to pay slightly more 
> you can get the wireless charging case which you can if you have one 
> place it on to a wireless charging pad and the case / airpods charge just by 
> sitting flat on the pad.
> 
> My suggestion would be the series 2 airpods which use Bluetooth to 
> pair with your phone and or other apple device using your apple id And 
> they can be used either together or as a single pod if you need to 
> have an ear free for other things.
> 
> Or if you wish to stay with the older wired airpods then you would be 
> best to look at the earpods with the lightening connection as the 
> newer phones no longer have the 3.5mm headphone jack, so the 
> lightening connectors ar what is needed if you don't go the airpods Bluetooth 
> way.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Simon f
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mária Orovcíková
> Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 10:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
> differences are between the versions
> 
> Hello list,
> First I thought I'd never buy the airpods, but the more you talk about 
> airpods, the more I consider buying them.
> However, I would like to get the airpods that look like original apple 
> wired ear buds.
> I cannot wear the ones that go into ear canal, because they are not 
> confortable for me.
> Although I have Iphone XR, I stil use ear buds that were sold with 
> Iphone 6, because I like the look, shape and the box for storage.
> Honestly, I've not checked yet the look of Ear buds that go with 
> Iphone XR, so I cannot compare.
> Do airpods look like Iphone 6 ear buds?
> Can you use them when they are in charging case?
> And how to make sure that I will buy the model I want?
> I have heard that apple also has airpods that go into ear canal, so I 
> would like to avoid buying wrong model.
> Thank you for your help in advance.
> Maria
> 
> On 1. 7. 2020 22:31, chalt...@gmail.com 

RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Simon A Fogarty]

The simple one is that the standard series 2 pods are the same look / feel as 
what is on the wired earpods that would have come with your iPhone or iPod.

 They sit in to the entrance of the ear but don't go in to the ear canal.

They don't have noise cancelation and come with eiter a wireless charging case 
or a case that needs to be connected to a usb/ lightening cable to charge.

The pros are a slightly shorter length and have a silicon or latex insert that 
goes in to the ear canal making them in some ways a tighter fitting pod but not 
everyones feel,
The pros have a noise cancelling feature and a button thing on the side to give 
what's called transparency mode that lets you hear outside noise without taking 
the pods out.

Slightly larger charging case which is both wireless and or wired charging .
Similar leght battery life for both designs, one being 5 hours playing and the 
other 4.5 hours 
Both forms of case give up to 24 hours of charging time 

So really it comes down to both what you like in the way of feel of them in 
your ears, and what you wish to pay.

The pros are to get some updates to firmware along with the Ios 14 
 Update that will give them the features of 5.1 
7.1
And dolby atmos audio  which is what you get from stand alone speakers 

I'm not sure but I believe the series 2 standard pods will get these updates as 
well, but may be not to the same extent.

The other thing to look at / think about are the beats pods,
Such as the power beats and the power beats pro,

 Larger in size,
Cheaper in price and for the power beats pro I think just as good a sound 
quality as the series 2 pods,
There are volume and play / pause and next / back track controls on the power 
beats pro pods and I believe on the power beats but on a wire that goes around 
your neck between the two pods,

Hooks over the ears to hold them on / in your ears,
 And they have the latex insert to the ear canal like the apple airpods pro 

My suggestion would be to look on the apple website and have a look at what 
they say about the 4 design / models and then if possible go to an apple store 
to have a look at samples of them that you can perhaps try out with real life 
situations


I hope this has been of some help and you can find something you like.

I've got both the series 2 airpods and the power beats pro pods, and although I 
prefer the airpods because of the size and portability I do use the power beats 
pro constantly for when I'm out and about.

Good luck. 

 -Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Priscilla Garces (prisci)
Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 7:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are 
between the versions

Hi,
I have the same question about EarPods too. I would like to know what the 
difference is between the regular and pro version.
My iphone doesn’t support the standard 3.5 headphones anymore, and only my iPad 
does at the moment.
I intend to use them for zoom conferences, and when i go out, if i do anyway 
because of this pandemic.

Thank yo, and hope all is well,

Priscilla



Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 1, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Jen .  wrote:
> 
> Hi thinking of purchasing air pods but wondering the differences between the 
> versions and why 1 would choose one over the other.
> Thanks.
> Jen
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Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Marie]

The Air pods are shaped exactly like the wired buds which come with the 
iPhone just without the wires. Great sound and comfortable fit. I just won't 
try any further buds which go into the ear canal. And the price is as much 
as the Air pods. Thanks for the great description and I know what good 
products they have.




Marie
-Original Message- 
From: Joshua Hendrickson

Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 10:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences 
are between the versions


I do not exactly know as I've never bought the apple airpods and do
not intend to.  This set of awesome anker earbuds that I found on
amazon this morning get up to 8 hours of playtime on a single charge,
have usb C charging, as well as wireless charging of the earbud case.
They are around $150, but they seem totally worth it to me.  I saw
many reviews on amazon saying how comfortable they were to wear and
how you get a lot of different ear tips to try out.  I think even with
small ears, they would work.  Anker, has awesome customer service.  I
called them a lot in the past couple days and they always answered my
questions and they were very good at explaining something if I didn't
understand.  You also get an 18 month warranty on any anker product
that you buy.  I do intend on getting them when I save up some money.
These earbuds even work with the soundcore app which has some very
cool EQ settings.

On 7/2/20, Marie  wrote:

I have two Plantronics Edge headsets and have praised them a lot. But with
both, after a few months I find them occasionally dropping the connection 
or


they sometimes switch to the second device for, say a phone call, and then
do not switch back to the first device. This worked flawlessly in the
beginning. And if using on my laptop, the lag is so bad, I just can't
tolerate it.



Marie
-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 6:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
differences


are between the versions

Remember that the Airpods will not switch seamlessly/automatically and
instantly between your iPhone and Apple Watch.
They are Apple's own product and are supposed the most advanced Bluetooth
earbuds out there yet pretty much any other Bluetooth headset will do this
so I am not quite sure how this works and how Apple justifies this. I have 
a


Voyager Edge single earpiece and if I pair it to both my iPhone and Apple
Watch, I can be listening to an audio book on my iPhone using the earpiece
and as soon as I do something on my watch the book stops and it switches 
to


my watch, once I stop the book plays again as soon as the watch locks.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Mária


Orovcíková
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 6:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
differences


are between the versions

Hi Sieghard and all,
Yes, I need a wireless headset that can be instantly and seamlesly 
switched


between my Iphone and Apple watch.
When I checked and compared prices of Plantronics and airpods, the airpods
cost about 30 euros more than Plantronics here in Slovakia, to not decided
yet which model I am going to buy.
Please, Are there any other models available that has this feature?
Thanks in advance.
Maria

On 2. 7. 2020 15:15, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:

Another option is to not get any kind of apple airpods at all.  There
are some very nice wireless earbuds that are much cheaper but do sound
very good.  There is a set of wireless earbuds from anker for around
$60 that can last up to 7 hours on a single charge.  I've got a set of
wireless earbuds that work by touch controls and do sound very nice.
Just check sites like amazon and do a bit of research.  Also, check
sites like youtube for product reviews which are all over youtube.
Anker really does make some great inexpensive products but don't sound
like crap.  I just got an anker Icon speaker which is a small portable
speaker for around $38 that though portable sounds great and I really
like it.

On 7/2/20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

And the original poster should also take into consideration that
Apple apparently is going to introduce a bunch of cool new features
which you may or may not get with the regular Airpods. I assume if
you do get them that there might be a new generation of regular
Airpods coming out, but of course that is just speculation. Despite
the fact how so many people like the Airpods, regular or Pro, I still
believe that for me they are not worth the price especially not until
they figure out how they seamlessly and instantly switch back and forth
between your iPhone and Apple Watch.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 4:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting

Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I do not exactly know as I've never bought the apple airpods and do
not intend to.  This set of awesome anker earbuds that I found on
amazon this morning get up to 8 hours of playtime on a single charge,
have usb C charging, as well as wireless charging of the earbud case.
They are around $150, but they seem totally worth it to me.  I saw
many reviews on amazon saying how comfortable they were to wear and
how you get a lot of different ear tips to try out.  I think even with
small ears, they would work.  Anker, has awesome customer service.  I
called them a lot in the past couple days and they always answered my
questions and they were very good at explaining something if I didn't
understand.  You also get an 18 month warranty on any anker product
that you buy.  I do intend on getting them when I save up some money.
These earbuds even work with the soundcore app which has some very
cool EQ settings.

On 7/2/20, Marie  wrote:
> I have two Plantronics Edge headsets and have praised them a lot. But with
> both, after a few months I find them occasionally dropping the connection or
>
> they sometimes switch to the second device for, say a phone call, and then
> do not switch back to the first device. This worked flawlessly in the
> beginning. And if using on my laptop, the lag is so bad, I just can't
> tolerate it.
>
>
>
> Marie
> -Original Message-
> From: Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 6:45 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences
>
> are between the versions
>
> Remember that the Airpods will not switch seamlessly/automatically and
> instantly between your iPhone and Apple Watch.
> They are Apple's own product and are supposed the most advanced Bluetooth
> earbuds out there yet pretty much any other Bluetooth headset will do this
> so I am not quite sure how this works and how Apple justifies this. I have a
>
> Voyager Edge single earpiece and if I pair it to both my iPhone and Apple
> Watch, I can be listening to an audio book on my iPhone using the earpiece
> and as soon as I do something on my watch the book stops and it switches to
>
> my watch, once I stop the book plays again as soon as the watch locks.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mária
>
> Orovcíková
> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 6:30 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences
>
> are between the versions
>
> Hi Sieghard and all,
> Yes, I need a wireless headset that can be instantly and seamlesly switched
>
> between my Iphone and Apple watch.
> When I checked and compared prices of Plantronics and airpods, the airpods
> cost about 30 euros more than Plantronics here in Slovakia, to not decided
> yet which model I am going to buy.
> Please, Are there any other models available that has this feature?
> Thanks in advance.
> Maria
>
> On 2. 7. 2020 15:15, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:
>> Another option is to not get any kind of apple airpods at all.  There
>> are some very nice wireless earbuds that are much cheaper but do sound
>> very good.  There is a set of wireless earbuds from anker for around
>> $60 that can last up to 7 hours on a single charge.  I've got a set of
>> wireless earbuds that work by touch controls and do sound very nice.
>> Just check sites like amazon and do a bit of research.  Also, check
>> sites like youtube for product reviews which are all over youtube.
>> Anker really does make some great inexpensive products but don't sound
>> like crap.  I just got an anker Icon speaker which is a small portable
>> speaker for around $38 that though portable sounds great and I really
>> like it.
>>
>> On 7/2/20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> And the original poster should also take into consideration that
>>> Apple apparently is going to introduce a bunch of cool new features
>>> which you may or may not get with the regular Airpods. I assume if
>>> you do get them that there might be a new generation of regular
>>> Airpods coming out, but of course that is just speculation. Despite
>>> the fact how so many people like the Airpods, regular or Pro, I still
>>> believe that for me they are not worth the price especially not until
>>> they figure out how they seamlessly and instantly switch back and forth
>>> between your iPhone and Apple Watch.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
>>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 4:17 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Thinking 

Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Marie]

I have two Plantronics Edge headsets and have praised them a lot. But with 
both, after a few months I find them occasionally dropping the connection or 
they sometimes switch to the second device for, say a phone call, and then 
do not switch back to the first device. This worked flawlessly in the 
beginning. And if using on my laptop, the lag is so bad, I just can't 
tolerate it.




Marie
-Original Message- 
From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 6:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences 
are between the versions


Remember that the Airpods will not switch seamlessly/automatically and 
instantly between your iPhone and Apple Watch.
They are Apple's own product and are supposed the most advanced Bluetooth 
earbuds out there yet pretty much any other Bluetooth headset will do this 
so I am not quite sure how this works and how Apple justifies this. I have a 
Voyager Edge single earpiece and if I pair it to both my iPhone and Apple 
Watch, I can be listening to an audio book on my iPhone using the earpiece 
and as soon as I do something on my watch the book stops and it switches to 
my watch, once I stop the book plays again as soon as the watch locks.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mária 
Orovcíková

Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 6:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences 
are between the versions


Hi Sieghard and all,
Yes, I need a wireless headset that can be instantly and seamlesly switched 
between my Iphone and Apple watch.
When I checked and compared prices of Plantronics and airpods, the airpods 
cost about 30 euros more than Plantronics here in Slovakia, to not decided 
yet which model I am going to buy.

Please, Are there any other models available that has this feature?
Thanks in advance.
Maria

On 2. 7. 2020 15:15, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:

Another option is to not get any kind of apple airpods at all.  There
are some very nice wireless earbuds that are much cheaper but do sound
very good.  There is a set of wireless earbuds from anker for around
$60 that can last up to 7 hours on a single charge.  I've got a set of
wireless earbuds that work by touch controls and do sound very nice.
Just check sites like amazon and do a bit of research.  Also, check
sites like youtube for product reviews which are all over youtube.
Anker really does make some great inexpensive products but don't sound
like crap.  I just got an anker Icon speaker which is a small portable
speaker for around $38 that though portable sounds great and I really
like it.

On 7/2/20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

And the original poster should also take into consideration that
Apple apparently is going to introduce a bunch of cool new features
which you may or may not get with the regular Airpods. I assume if
you do get them that there might be a new generation of regular
Airpods coming out, but of course that is just speculation. Despite
the fact how so many people like the Airpods, regular or Pro, I still
believe that for me they are not worth the price especially not until
they figure out how they seamlessly and instantly switch back and forth 
between your iPhone and Apple Watch.



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 4:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
differences are between the versions

Sorry yes,
My mistake,

I meant to say don't go for the airpod  pros as they have the in to
your ear canel feature Stay with the airpod series 2 as they are what you 
mentioned.


Good luck.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of chalt...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 11:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
differences are between the versions

I think Simon is steering you in the right direction. You don't want
the Airpod Pros but the Airpods, as Simon describes below. You asked
if you can use them while they're in the charging case, and the
answer is no you cannot. You cannot place them in your ear while
they're in the charging case, and when you place the Airpods in the
charging case the Bluetooth connection is shutdown.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 5:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
differences are between the versions

Hi,

The original airpods or what are now known as the series 2 airpods
are what you are thinking of I believe.

These are the ones that look like apple have cut the wire off the
old wired earpods that use to come with your iphone or ipods

Now they come in a little flip top case

Re: Thinking of getting air pods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Marie]

Do any of the Anker ear buds fit like the air pods? I have small ear canals 
and have never found ear buds which do not make them somewhat sore after a 
while. It is one of the things I love about the Apple wired buds or the air 
buds. I can wear them all day with no discomfort.

I have used and do like the Anker products.


Marie
-Original Message- 
From: Joshua Hendrickson

Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 6:15 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences 
are between the versions


Another option is to not get any kind of apple airpods at all.  There
are some very nice wireless earbuds that are much cheaper but do sound
very good.  There is a set of wireless earbuds from anker for around
$60 that can last up to 7 hours on a single charge.  I've got a set of
wireless earbuds that work by touch controls and do sound very nice.
Just check sites like amazon and do a bit of research.  Also, check
sites like youtube for product reviews which are all over youtube.
Anker really does make some great inexpensive products but don't sound
like crap.  I just got an anker Icon speaker which is a small portable
speaker for around $38 that though portable sounds great and I really
like it.

On 7/2/20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

And the original poster should also take into consideration that Apple
apparently is going to introduce a bunch of cool new features which you 
may

or may not get with the regular Airpods. I assume if you do get them that
there might be a new generation of regular Airpods coming out, but of 
course

that is just speculation. Despite the fact how so many people like the
Airpods, regular or Pro, I still believe that for me they are not worth 
the
price especially not until they figure out how they seamlessly and 
instantly

switch back and forth between your iPhone and Apple Watch.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Simon

A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 4:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
differences

are between the versions

Sorry yes,
My mistake,

I meant to say don't go for the airpod  pros as they have the in to your 
ear
canel feature Stay with the airpod series 2 as they are what you 
mentioned.


Good luck.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
chalt...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 11:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
differences

are between the versions

I think Simon is steering you in the right direction. You don't want the
Airpod Pros but the Airpods, as Simon describes below. You asked if you 
can

use them while they're in the charging case, and the answer is no you
cannot. You cannot place them in your ear while they're in the charging
case, and when you place the Airpods in the charging case the Bluetooth
connection is shutdown.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 5:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
differences are between the versions

Hi,

The original airpods or what are now known as the series 2 airpods are
what you are thinking of I believe.

These are the ones that look like apple have cut the wire off the old
wired earpods that use to come with your iphone or ipods

Now they come in a little flip top case that you can charge with a
standard iphone  lightening cable Or if you wish to pay slightly more
you can get the wireless charging case which you can if you have one
place it on to a wireless charging pad and the case / airpods charge just
by sitting flat on the pad.

My suggestion would be the series 2 airpods which use Bluetooth to
pair with your phone and or other apple device using your apple id And
they can be used either together or as a single pod if you need to
have an ear free for other things.

Or if you wish to stay with the older wired airpods then you would be
best to look at the earpods with the lightening connection as the
newer phones no longer have the 3.5mm headphone jack, so the
lightening connectors ar what is needed if you don't go the airpods
Bluetooth way.

Hope this helps.

Simon f

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Mária Orovcíková
Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 10:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
differences are between the versions

Hello list,
First I thought I'd never buy the airpods, but the more you talk about
airpods, the more I consider buying them.
However, I would like to get the airpods that look like original apple
wired ear buds.
I cannot wear the ones that go into ear canal, because they are not
confortable for me.
Although I have Iphone XR, I stil use ear buds

Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Mária Orovčíková]

Hmmm, I am confused now.
Some people say that airpods switch seamlessly/automatically and 
instantly between Iphone and apple watch, some say they don't.

I certainly do not want to buy something that wil not work for me.
Voyager edge seems to be the headset with the features I need, but I am 
afraid it is not available here.

Please, would you mind me asking the price you got it for?
Thanks.
Maria

On 2. 7. 2020 15:45, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Remember that the Airpods will not switch seamlessly/automatically and 
instantly between your iPhone and Apple Watch.
They are Apple's own product and are supposed the most advanced Bluetooth 
earbuds out there yet pretty much any other Bluetooth headset will do this so I 
am not quite sure how this works and how Apple justifies this. I have a Voyager 
Edge single earpiece and if I pair it to both my iPhone and Apple Watch, I can 
be listening to an audio book on my iPhone using the earpiece and as soon as I 
do something on my watch the book stops and it switches to my watch, once I 
stop the book plays again as soon as the watch locks.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mária 
Orovcíková
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 6:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are 
between the versions

Hi Sieghard and all,
Yes, I need a wireless headset that can be instantly and seamlesly switched 
between my Iphone and Apple watch.
When I checked and compared prices of Plantronics and airpods, the airpods cost 
about 30 euros more than Plantronics here in Slovakia, to not decided yet which 
model I am going to buy.
Please, Are there any other models available that has this feature?
Thanks in advance.
Maria

On 2. 7. 2020 15:15, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:

Another option is to not get any kind of apple airpods at all.  There
are some very nice wireless earbuds that are much cheaper but do sound
very good.  There is a set of wireless earbuds from anker for around
$60 that can last up to 7 hours on a single charge.  I've got a set of
wireless earbuds that work by touch controls and do sound very nice.
Just check sites like amazon and do a bit of research.  Also, check
sites like youtube for product reviews which are all over youtube.
Anker really does make some great inexpensive products but don't sound
like crap.  I just got an anker Icon speaker which is a small portable
speaker for around $38 that though portable sounds great and I really
like it.

On 7/2/20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

And the original poster should also take into consideration that
Apple apparently is going to introduce a bunch of cool new features
which you may or may not get with the regular Airpods. I assume if
you do get them that there might be a new generation of regular
Airpods coming out, but of course that is just speculation. Despite
the fact how so many people like the Airpods, regular or Pro, I still
believe that for me they are not worth the price especially not until
they figure out how they seamlessly and instantly switch back and forth between 
your iPhone and Apple Watch.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 4:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
differences are between the versions

Sorry yes,
My mistake,

I meant to say don't go for the airpod  pros as they have the in to
your ear canel feature Stay with the airpod series 2 as they are what you 
mentioned.

Good luck.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of chalt...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 11:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
differences are between the versions

I think Simon is steering you in the right direction. You don't want
the Airpod Pros but the Airpods, as Simon describes below. You asked
if you can use them while they're in the charging case, and the
answer is no you cannot. You cannot place them in your ear while
they're in the charging case, and when you place the Airpods in the
charging case the Bluetooth connection is shutdown.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 5:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
differences are between the versions

Hi,

The original airpods or what are now known as the series 2 airpods
are what you are thinking of I believe.

These are the ones that look like apple have cut the wire off the
old wired earpods that use to come with your iphone or ipods

Now they come in a little flip top case that you can charge with a
standard iphone  lightening cable Or if you wish to pay slightly
more you can get the wireless charging case which you can if you
have one place

RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Remember that the Airpods will not switch seamlessly/automatically and 
instantly between your iPhone and Apple Watch.
They are Apple's own product and are supposed the most advanced Bluetooth 
earbuds out there yet pretty much any other Bluetooth headset will do this so I 
am not quite sure how this works and how Apple justifies this. I have a Voyager 
Edge single earpiece and if I pair it to both my iPhone and Apple Watch, I can 
be listening to an audio book on my iPhone using the earpiece and as soon as I 
do something on my watch the book stops and it switches to my watch, once I 
stop the book plays again as soon as the watch locks.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mária 
Orovcíková
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 6:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are 
between the versions

Hi Sieghard and all,
Yes, I need a wireless headset that can be instantly and seamlesly switched 
between my Iphone and Apple watch.
When I checked and compared prices of Plantronics and airpods, the airpods cost 
about 30 euros more than Plantronics here in Slovakia, to not decided yet which 
model I am going to buy.
Please, Are there any other models available that has this feature?
Thanks in advance.
Maria

On 2. 7. 2020 15:15, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:
> Another option is to not get any kind of apple airpods at all.  There 
> are some very nice wireless earbuds that are much cheaper but do sound 
> very good.  There is a set of wireless earbuds from anker for around
> $60 that can last up to 7 hours on a single charge.  I've got a set of 
> wireless earbuds that work by touch controls and do sound very nice.
> Just check sites like amazon and do a bit of research.  Also, check 
> sites like youtube for product reviews which are all over youtube.
> Anker really does make some great inexpensive products but don't sound 
> like crap.  I just got an anker Icon speaker which is a small portable 
> speaker for around $38 that though portable sounds great and I really 
> like it.
>
> On 7/2/20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> And the original poster should also take into consideration that 
>> Apple apparently is going to introduce a bunch of cool new features 
>> which you may or may not get with the regular Airpods. I assume if 
>> you do get them that there might be a new generation of regular 
>> Airpods coming out, but of course that is just speculation. Despite 
>> the fact how so many people like the Airpods, regular or Pro, I still 
>> believe that for me they are not worth the price especially not until 
>> they figure out how they seamlessly and instantly switch back and forth 
>> between your iPhone and Apple Watch.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 4:17 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
>> differences are between the versions
>>
>> Sorry yes,
>> My mistake,
>>
>> I meant to say don't go for the airpod  pros as they have the in to 
>> your ear canel feature Stay with the airpod series 2 as they are what you 
>> mentioned.
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of chalt...@gmail.com
>> Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 11:10 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
>> differences are between the versions
>>
>> I think Simon is steering you in the right direction. You don't want 
>> the Airpod Pros but the Airpods, as Simon describes below. You asked 
>> if you can use them while they're in the charging case, and the 
>> answer is no you cannot. You cannot place them in your ear while 
>> they're in the charging case, and when you place the Airpods in the 
>> charging case the Bluetooth connection is shutdown.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Gmail
>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of Simon A Fogarty
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 5:54 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
>>> differences are between the versions
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> The original airpods or what are now known as the series 2 airpods 
>>> are what you are thinking of I believe.
>>>
>>> These are the ones that look like apple have cut the wire off the 
>>> old wired earpods that us

Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Mária Orovčíková]

Hi Sieghard and all,
Yes, I need a wireless headset that can be instantly and seamlesly 
switched between my Iphone and Apple watch.
When I checked and compared prices of Plantronics and airpods, the 
airpods cost about 30 euros more than Plantronics here in Slovakia, to 
not decided yet which model I am going to buy.

Please, Are there any other models available that has this feature?
Thanks in advance.
Maria

On 2. 7. 2020 15:15, Joshua Hendrickson wrote:

Another option is to not get any kind of apple airpods at all.  There
are some very nice wireless earbuds that are much cheaper but do sound
very good.  There is a set of wireless earbuds from anker for around
$60 that can last up to 7 hours on a single charge.  I've got a set of
wireless earbuds that work by touch controls and do sound very nice.
Just check sites like amazon and do a bit of research.  Also, check
sites like youtube for product reviews which are all over youtube.
Anker really does make some great inexpensive products but don't sound
like crap.  I just got an anker Icon speaker which is a small portable
speaker for around $38 that though portable sounds great and I really
like it.

On 7/2/20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

And the original poster should also take into consideration that Apple
apparently is going to introduce a bunch of cool new features which you may
or may not get with the regular Airpods. I assume if you do get them that
there might be a new generation of regular Airpods coming out, but of course
that is just speculation. Despite the fact how so many people like the
Airpods, regular or Pro, I still believe that for me they are not worth the
price especially not until they figure out how they seamlessly and instantly
switch back and forth between your iPhone and Apple Watch.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon
A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 4:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences
are between the versions

Sorry yes,
My mistake,

I meant to say don't go for the airpod  pros as they have the in to your ear
canel feature Stay with the airpod series 2 as they are what you mentioned.

Good luck.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
chalt...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 11:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences
are between the versions

I think Simon is steering you in the right direction. You don't want the
Airpod Pros but the Airpods, as Simon describes below. You asked if you can
use them while they're in the charging case, and the answer is no you
cannot. You cannot place them in your ear while they're in the charging
case, and when you place the Airpods in the charging case the Bluetooth
connection is shutdown.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Simon A Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 5:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
differences are between the versions

Hi,

The original airpods or what are now known as the series 2 airpods are
what you are thinking of I believe.

These are the ones that look like apple have cut the wire off the old
wired earpods that use to come with your iphone or ipods

Now they come in a little flip top case that you can charge with a
standard iphone  lightening cable Or if you wish to pay slightly more
you can get the wireless charging case which you can if you have one
place it on to a wireless charging pad and the case / airpods charge just
by sitting flat on the pad.

My suggestion would be the series 2 airpods which use Bluetooth to
pair with your phone and or other apple device using your apple id And
they can be used either together or as a single pod if you need to
have an ear free for other things.

Or if you wish to stay with the older wired airpods then you would be
best to look at the earpods with the lightening connection as the
newer phones no longer have the 3.5mm headphone jack, so the
lightening connectors ar what is needed if you don't go the airpods
Bluetooth way.

Hope this helps.

Simon f

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Mária Orovcíková
Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 10:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
differences are between the versions

Hello list,
First I thought I'd never buy the airpods, but the more you talk about
airpods, the more I consider buying them.
However, I would like to get the airpods that look like original apple
wired ear buds.
I cannot wear the ones that go into ear canal, because they are not
confortable for me.
Although I have Iphone XR, I stil use ear buds that were sold with
Iphone 6, because I like the look, shape and the box for storage.
Honestly, I've

Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Another option is to not get any kind of apple airpods at all.  There
are some very nice wireless earbuds that are much cheaper but do sound
very good.  There is a set of wireless earbuds from anker for around
$60 that can last up to 7 hours on a single charge.  I've got a set of
wireless earbuds that work by touch controls and do sound very nice.
Just check sites like amazon and do a bit of research.  Also, check
sites like youtube for product reviews which are all over youtube.
Anker really does make some great inexpensive products but don't sound
like crap.  I just got an anker Icon speaker which is a small portable
speaker for around $38 that though portable sounds great and I really
like it.

On 7/2/20, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> And the original poster should also take into consideration that Apple
> apparently is going to introduce a bunch of cool new features which you may
> or may not get with the regular Airpods. I assume if you do get them that
> there might be a new generation of regular Airpods coming out, but of course
> that is just speculation. Despite the fact how so many people like the
> Airpods, regular or Pro, I still believe that for me they are not worth the
> price especially not until they figure out how they seamlessly and instantly
> switch back and forth between your iPhone and Apple Watch.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon
> A Fogarty
> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 4:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences
> are between the versions
>
> Sorry yes,
> My mistake,
>
> I meant to say don't go for the airpod  pros as they have the in to your ear
> canel feature Stay with the airpod series 2 as they are what you mentioned.
>
> Good luck.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> chalt...@gmail.com
> Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 11:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences
> are between the versions
>
> I think Simon is steering you in the right direction. You don't want the
> Airpod Pros but the Airpods, as Simon describes below. You asked if you can
> use them while they're in the charging case, and the answer is no you
> cannot. You cannot place them in your ear while they're in the charging
> case, and when you place the Airpods in the charging case the Bluetooth
> connection is shutdown.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Gmail
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Simon A Fogarty
>> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 5:54 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
>> differences are between the versions
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> The original airpods or what are now known as the series 2 airpods are
>> what you are thinking of I believe.
>>
>> These are the ones that look like apple have cut the wire off the old
>> wired earpods that use to come with your iphone or ipods
>>
>> Now they come in a little flip top case that you can charge with a
>> standard iphone  lightening cable Or if you wish to pay slightly more
>> you can get the wireless charging case which you can if you have one
>> place it on to a wireless charging pad and the case / airpods charge just
>> by sitting flat on the pad.
>>
>> My suggestion would be the series 2 airpods which use Bluetooth to
>> pair with your phone and or other apple device using your apple id And
>> they can be used either together or as a single pod if you need to
>> have an ear free for other things.
>>
>> Or if you wish to stay with the older wired airpods then you would be
>> best to look at the earpods with the lightening connection as the
>> newer phones no longer have the 3.5mm headphone jack, so the
>> lightening connectors ar what is needed if you don't go the airpods
>> Bluetooth way.
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> Simon f
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Mária Orovcíková
>> Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 10:21 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
>> differences are between the versions
>>
>> Hello list,
>> First I thought I'd never buy the airpods, but the more you talk about
>> airpods, the more I consider buying them.
>> However, I would like to get the airpods that look like original apple
>> wired ear buds.
>> I cannot wear the ones that go into ear can

RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And the original poster should also take into consideration that Apple 
apparently is going to introduce a bunch of cool new features which you may or 
may not get with the regular Airpods. I assume if you do get them that there 
might be a new generation of regular Airpods coming out, but of course that is 
just speculation. Despite the fact how so many people like the Airpods, regular 
or Pro, I still believe that for me they are not worth the price especially not 
until they figure out how they seamlessly and instantly switch back and forth 
between your iPhone and Apple Watch.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Simon A 
Fogarty
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 4:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are 
between the versions

Sorry yes,
My mistake,

I meant to say don't go for the airpod  pros as they have the in to your ear 
canel feature Stay with the airpod series 2 as they are what you mentioned.

Good luck.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chalt...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 11:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are 
between the versions

I think Simon is steering you in the right direction. You don't want the Airpod 
Pros but the Airpods, as Simon describes below. You asked if you can use them 
while they're in the charging case, and the answer is no you cannot. You cannot 
place them in your ear while they're in the charging case, and when you place 
the Airpods in the charging case the Bluetooth connection is shutdown.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 5:54 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
> differences are between the versions
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The original airpods or what are now known as the series 2 airpods are 
> what you are thinking of I believe.
> 
> These are the ones that look like apple have cut the wire off the old 
> wired earpods that use to come with your iphone or ipods
> 
> Now they come in a little flip top case that you can charge with a 
> standard iphone  lightening cable Or if you wish to pay slightly more 
> you can get the wireless charging case which you can if you have one 
> place it on to a wireless charging pad and the case / airpods charge just by 
> sitting flat on the pad.
> 
> My suggestion would be the series 2 airpods which use Bluetooth to 
> pair with your phone and or other apple device using your apple id And 
> they can be used either together or as a single pod if you need to 
> have an ear free for other things.
> 
> Or if you wish to stay with the older wired airpods then you would be 
> best to look at the earpods with the lightening connection as the 
> newer phones no longer have the 3.5mm headphone jack, so the 
> lightening connectors ar what is needed if you don't go the airpods Bluetooth 
> way.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Simon f
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mária Orovcíková
> Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 10:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
> differences are between the versions
> 
> Hello list,
> First I thought I'd never buy the airpods, but the more you talk about 
> airpods, the more I consider buying them.
> However, I would like to get the airpods that look like original apple 
> wired ear buds.
> I cannot wear the ones that go into ear canal, because they are not 
> confortable for me.
> Although I have Iphone XR, I stil use ear buds that were sold with 
> Iphone 6, because I like the look, shape and the box for storage.
> Honestly, I've not checked yet the look of Ear buds that go with 
> Iphone XR, so I cannot compare.
> Do airpods look like Iphone 6 ear buds?
> Can you use them when they are in charging case?
> And how to make sure that I will buy the model I want?
> I have heard that apple also has airpods that go into ear canal, so I 
> would like to avoid buying wrong model.
> Thank you for your help in advance.
> Maria
> 
> On 1. 7. 2020 22:31, chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
> > The Airpod  Pros will be more expensive, about $100 more the last 
> > time I
> looked a few months ago. The Airpods look like wired ear buds without 
> the cables, so there's no noise cancellation, active or passive. The 
> Airpod Pros have the silicon tips that fit into your ear, so they do have 
> passive noise cancellation.
> They also have active noise cancellation, as well as a transparen

RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Simon A Fogarty]

Sorry yes,
My mistake,

I meant to say don't go for the airpod  pros as they have the in to your ear 
canel feature
Stay with the airpod series 2 as they are what you mentioned.

Good luck.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
chalt...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 11:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are 
between the versions

I think Simon is steering you in the right direction. You don't want the Airpod 
Pros but the Airpods, as Simon describes below. You asked if you can use them 
while they're in the charging case, and the answer is no you cannot. You cannot 
place them in your ear while they're in the charging case, and when you place 
the Airpods in the charging case the Bluetooth connection is shutdown.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 5:54 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
> differences are between the versions
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The original airpods or what are now known as the series 2 airpods are 
> what you are thinking of I believe.
> 
> These are the ones that look like apple have cut the wire off the old 
> wired earpods that use to come with your iphone or ipods
> 
> Now they come in a little flip top case that you can charge with a 
> standard iphone  lightening cable Or if you wish to pay slightly more 
> you can get the wireless charging case which you can if you have one 
> place it on to a wireless charging pad and the case / airpods charge just by 
> sitting flat on the pad.
> 
> My suggestion would be the series 2 airpods which use Bluetooth to 
> pair with your phone and or other apple device using your apple id And 
> they can be used either together or as a single pod if you need to 
> have an ear free for other things.
> 
> Or if you wish to stay with the older wired airpods then you would be 
> best to look at the earpods with the lightening connection as the 
> newer phones no longer have the 3.5mm headphone jack, so the 
> lightening connectors ar what is needed if you don't go the airpods Bluetooth 
> way.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Simon f
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Mária Orovcíková
> Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 10:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
> differences are between the versions
> 
> Hello list,
> First I thought I'd never buy the airpods, but the more you talk about 
> airpods, the more I consider buying them.
> However, I would like to get the airpods that look like original apple 
> wired ear buds.
> I cannot wear the ones that go into ear canal, because they are not 
> confortable for me.
> Although I have Iphone XR, I stil use ear buds that were sold with 
> Iphone 6, because I like the look, shape and the box for storage.
> Honestly, I've not checked yet the look of Ear buds that go with 
> Iphone XR, so I cannot compare.
> Do airpods look like Iphone 6 ear buds?
> Can you use them when they are in charging case?
> And how to make sure that I will buy the model I want?
> I have heard that apple also has airpods that go into ear canal, so I 
> would like to avoid buying wrong model.
> Thank you for your help in advance.
> Maria
> 
> On 1. 7. 2020 22:31, chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
> > The Airpod  Pros will be more expensive, about $100 more the last 
> > time I
> looked a few months ago. The Airpods look like wired ear buds without 
> the cables, so there's no noise cancellation, active or passive. The 
> Airpod Pros have the silicon tips that fit into your ear, so they do have 
> passive noise cancellation.
> They also have active noise cancellation, as well as a transparency 
> mode, which picks up environmental sounds through the microphones and 
> transmits it through the Airpod Pros. Based on feedback I got from 
> this list, I went with the Airpod Pros myself, and I don't regret it. 
> I had coupons and gift cards to burn though, so I'm not sure I would 
> have made the same choice if I were talking about my own money. Bottom 
> line for me is that if you can afford them go with the Pros, but if 
> price is a consideration, you might want to go with the Airpods instead.
> >
> > --
> > Christopher (AKA CJ)
> > Chaltain at Gmail
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On
> Behalf
> >> Of Jen .
> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 10:46 AM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.c

RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[chaltain]

I think Simon is steering you in the right direction. You don't want the Airpod 
Pros but the Airpods, as Simon describes below. You asked if you can use them 
while they're in the charging case, and the answer is no you cannot. You cannot 
place them in your ear while they're in the charging case, and when you place 
the Airpods in the charging case the Bluetooth connection is shutdown.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Gmail

> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Simon A Fogarty
> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 5:54 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences 
> are
> between the versions
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The original airpods or what are now known as the series 2 airpods are what 
> you
> are thinking of I believe.
> 
> These are the ones that look like apple have cut the wire off the old wired
> earpods that use to come with your iphone or ipods
> 
> Now they come in a little flip top case that you can charge with a standard
> iphone  lightening cable Or if you wish to pay slightly more you can get the
> wireless charging case which you can if you have one place it on to a wireless
> charging pad and the case / airpods charge just by sitting flat on the pad.
> 
> My suggestion would be the series 2 airpods which use Bluetooth to pair with
> your phone and or other apple device using your apple id And they can be used
> either together or as a single pod if you need to have an ear free for other
> things.
> 
> Or if you wish to stay with the older wired airpods then you would be best to
> look at the earpods with the lightening connection as the newer phones no
> longer have the 3.5mm headphone jack, so the lightening connectors ar what is
> needed if you don't go the airpods Bluetooth way.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> Simon f
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
> Of Mária Orovcíková
> Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 10:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences 
> are
> between the versions
> 
> Hello list,
> First I thought I'd never buy the airpods, but the more you talk about 
> airpods,
> the more I consider buying them.
> However, I would like to get the airpods that look like original apple wired 
> ear
> buds.
> I cannot wear the ones that go into ear canal, because they are not 
> confortable
> for me.
> Although I have Iphone XR, I stil use ear buds that were sold with Iphone 6,
> because I like the look, shape and the box for storage.
> Honestly, I've not checked yet the look of Ear buds that go with Iphone XR, 
> so I
> cannot compare.
> Do airpods look like Iphone 6 ear buds?
> Can you use them when they are in charging case?
> And how to make sure that I will buy the model I want?
> I have heard that apple also has airpods that go into ear canal, so I would 
> like to
> avoid buying wrong model.
> Thank you for your help in advance.
> Maria
> 
> On 1. 7. 2020 22:31, chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
> > The Airpod  Pros will be more expensive, about $100 more the last time I
> looked a few months ago. The Airpods look like wired ear buds without the
> cables, so there's no noise cancellation, active or passive. The Airpod Pros 
> have
> the silicon tips that fit into your ear, so they do have passive noise 
> cancellation.
> They also have active noise cancellation, as well as a transparency mode, 
> which
> picks up environmental sounds through the microphones and transmits it
> through the Airpod Pros. Based on feedback I got from this list, I went with 
> the
> Airpod Pros myself, and I don't regret it. I had coupons and gift cards to 
> burn
> though, so I'm not sure I would have made the same choice if I were talking
> about my own money. Bottom line for me is that if you can afford them go with
> the Pros, but if price is a consideration, you might want to go with the 
> Airpods
> instead.
> >
> > --
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> > Chaltain at Gmail
> >
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> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On
> Behalf
> >> Of Jen .
> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 10:46 AM
> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> >> Subject: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the
> >> differences are between the versions
> >>
> >> Hi thinking of purchasing air pods but wondering the differences
> >> between the versions and why 1 would choose one over the other.
> >> Thanks.
> >> Jen
> >>
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RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Simon A Fogarty]

Hi,

The original airpods or what are now known as the series 2 airpods are what you 
are thinking of I believe.

These are the ones that look like apple have cut the wire off the old wired 
earpods that use to come with your iphone or ipods 

Now they come in a little flip top case that you can charge with a standard 
iphone  lightening cable 
Or if you wish to pay slightly more you can get the wireless charging case 
which you can if you have one place it on to a wireless charging pad and the 
case / airpods charge just by sitting flat on the pad.

My suggestion would be the series 2 airpods which use Bluetooth to pair with 
your phone and or other apple device using your apple id 
And they can be used either together or as a single pod if you need to have an 
ear free for other things.

Or if you wish to stay with the older wired airpods then you would be best to 
look at the earpods with the lightening connection as the newer phones no 
longer have the 3.5mm headphone jack, so the lightening connectors ar what is 
needed if you don't go the airpods Bluetooth way.

Hope this helps.

Simon f

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mária 
Orovcíková
Sent: Thursday, 2 July 2020 10:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are 
between the versions

Hello list,
First I thought I'd never buy the airpods, but the more you talk about airpods, 
the more I consider buying them.
However, I would like to get the airpods that look like original apple wired 
ear buds.
I cannot wear the ones that go into ear canal, because they are not confortable 
for me.
Although I have Iphone XR, I stil use ear buds that were sold with Iphone 6, 
because I like the look, shape and the box for storage.
Honestly, I've not checked yet the look of Ear buds that go with Iphone XR, so 
I cannot compare.
Do airpods look like Iphone 6 ear buds?
Can you use them when they are in charging case?
And how to make sure that I will buy the model I want?
I have heard that apple also has airpods that go into ear canal, so I would 
like to avoid buying wrong model.
Thank you for your help in advance.
Maria

On 1. 7. 2020 22:31, chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
> The Airpod  Pros will be more expensive, about $100 more the last time I 
> looked a few months ago. The Airpods look like wired ear buds without the 
> cables, so there's no noise cancellation, active or passive. The Airpod Pros 
> have the silicon tips that fit into your ear, so they do have passive noise 
> cancellation. They also have active noise cancellation, as well as a 
> transparency mode, which picks up environmental sounds through the 
> microphones and transmits it through the Airpod Pros. Based on feedback I got 
> from this list, I went with the Airpod Pros myself, and I don't regret it. I 
> had coupons and gift cards to burn though, so I'm not sure I would have made 
> the same choice if I were talking about my own money. Bottom line for me is 
> that if you can afford them go with the Pros, but if price is a 
> consideration, you might want to go with the Airpods instead.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Gmail
>
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>> Subject: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the 
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>>
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>> Thanks.
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Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Mária Orovčíková]

Hello list,
First I thought I'd never buy the airpods, but the more you talk about 
airpods, the more I consider buying them.
However, I would like to get the airpods that look like original apple 
wired ear buds.
I cannot wear the ones that go into ear canal, because they are not 
confortable for me.
Although I have Iphone XR, I stil use ear buds that were sold with 
Iphone 6, because I like the look, shape and the box for storage.
Honestly, I've not checked yet the look of Ear buds that go with Iphone 
XR, so I cannot compare.

Do airpods look like Iphone 6 ear buds?
Can you use them when they are in charging case?
And how to make sure that I will buy the model I want?
I have heard that apple also has airpods that go into ear canal, so I 
would like to avoid buying wrong model.

Thank you for your help in advance.
Maria

On 1. 7. 2020 22:31, chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

The Airpod  Pros will be more expensive, about $100 more the last time I looked 
a few months ago. The Airpods look like wired ear buds without the cables, so 
there's no noise cancellation, active or passive. The Airpod Pros have the 
silicon tips that fit into your ear, so they do have passive noise 
cancellation. They also have active noise cancellation, as well as a 
transparency mode, which picks up environmental sounds through the microphones 
and transmits it through the Airpod Pros. Based on feedback I got from this 
list, I went with the Airpod Pros myself, and I don't regret it. I had coupons 
and gift cards to burn though, so I'm not sure I would have made the same 
choice if I were talking about my own money. Bottom line for me is that if you 
can afford them go with the Pros, but if price is a consideration, you might 
want to go with the Airpods instead.

--
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Chaltain at Gmail


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between the versions

Hi thinking of purchasing air pods but wondering the differences between the
versions and why 1 would choose one over the other.
Thanks.
Jen

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RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

This sums it up nicely.

I just wanted to add that I had gotten the original airpods before the new ones 
came out, and I have been perfectly happy with them.  The newer ones do have 
some good features, but I have no complaints about the ones I have and I use 
them a lot, although I have not tried them for conference calls.

Pam


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [viphone@googlegroups.com] on behalf of 
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Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 4:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are 
between the versions

The Airpod  Pros will be more expensive, about $100 more the last time I looked 
a few months ago. The Airpods look like wired ear buds without the cables, so 
there's no noise cancellation, active or passive. The Airpod Pros have the 
silicon tips that fit into your ear, so they do have passive noise 
cancellation. They also have active noise cancellation, as well as a 
transparency mode, which picks up environmental sounds through the microphones 
and transmits it through the Airpod Pros. Based on feedback I got from this 
list, I went with the Airpod Pros myself, and I don't regret it. I had coupons 
and gift cards to burn though, so I'm not sure I would have made the same 
choice if I were talking about my own money. Bottom line for me is that if you 
can afford them go with the Pros, but if price is a consideration, you might 
want to go with the Airpods instead.

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Chaltain at Gmail

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RE: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[chaltain]

The Airpod  Pros will be more expensive, about $100 more the last time I looked 
a few months ago. The Airpods look like wired ear buds without the cables, so 
there's no noise cancellation, active or passive. The Airpod Pros have the 
silicon tips that fit into your ear, so they do have passive noise 
cancellation. They also have active noise cancellation, as well as a 
transparency mode, which picks up environmental sounds through the microphones 
and transmits it through the Airpod Pros. Based on feedback I got from this 
list, I went with the Airpod Pros myself, and I don't regret it. I had coupons 
and gift cards to burn though, so I'm not sure I would have made the same 
choice if I were talking about my own money. Bottom line for me is that if you 
can afford them go with the Pros, but if price is a consideration, you might 
want to go with the Airpods instead.

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Chaltain at Gmail

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Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Pete Nalda]

The AirPod pro model have 2 modes, ambience, which enhance outside noises, and 
noise cancellation mode, which filter out ambient noises, like motors, traffic, 
and generator noises. Note it’s better Toruń off cancellation mode when on a 
call, as it will block the microphone. The Pro also have rubber tips, and are 
shaped a bit differently. Thus the case is horizontally longer. The AirPod Pro 
are about $100 more than the AirPods 

Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates
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> On Jul 1, 2020, at 2:33 PM, Priscilla Garces (prisci)  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I have the same question about EarPods too. I would like to know what the 
> difference is between the regular and pro version.
> My iphone doesn’t support the standard 3.5 headphones anymore, and only my 
> iPad does at the moment.
> I intend to use them for zoom conferences, and when i go out, if i do anyway 
> because of this pandemic.
> 
> Thank yo, and hope all is well,
> 
> Priscilla
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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Re: Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Priscilla Garces (prisci)]

Hi,
I have the same question about EarPods too. I would like to know what the 
difference is between the regular and pro version.
My iphone doesn’t support the standard 3.5 headphones anymore, and only my iPad 
does at the moment.
I intend to use them for zoom conferences, and when i go out, if i do anyway 
because of this pandemic.

Thank yo, and hope all is well,

Priscilla



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Thinking of getting airpods and wondering what the differences are between the versions

[Jen .]

Hi thinking of purchasing air pods but wondering the differences between the 
versions and why 1 would choose one over the other.
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RE: What are the differences in the different versions of the airpods

[Simon A Fogarty]

Ok,

So what is it you're wanting to be able to do with these headphones? 

Did you want them to be wireless or wired?
For phone / Ipad devices only or with computers as well?



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Hi,
I am thinking of purchasing a pair of AirPods but I know there are different 
versions which probably have differences so wondering if anyone can tell me 
what they are and what you like or dislike about the model you have.
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Re: What are the differences in the different versions of the airpods

[Shai]

Hello,
I had the airpods pro for sometime which are the most current version.
I did not like a few things about them:
1. noise canceling seemed too heavy when used for extended period
(more than an hour of time).
2.  They could not be paired to multiple devices at once. This made it
difficult when paired with my pc and I would get a phone call for
example.


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> what they are and what you like or dislike about the model you have.
> Thanks.
> Jen
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What are the differences in the different versions of the airpods

[Jen .]

Hi,
I am thinking of purchasing a pair of AirPods but I know there are different 
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Re: Differences in Generations of Apple Watch

[Anna Dresner]

Hi,

I would recommend a fourth or fifth generation watch as well because it will be 
updated longer. However, VoiceoVer works very well on the third gen as well, so 
if you get a really good deal, it could be a nice way to find out if you like 
the watch without spending as much money.

Best,
Anna




> On Dec 13, 2019, at 3:30 PM, Wayne Merritt  wrote:
> 
> If you can get a 4th gen or 5th gen, VoiceOver will run much better on
> those than the older generations. VoiceOver was very sluggish on my
> second generation, and I upgraded to a forth generation. You may be
> able to find some from folks on Facebook or eBay, or used on Amazon.
> The other things about the newer watches is the screens are much
> bigger, 40 or 44 MM, which means more apps or complications on the
> watch face.
> 
> Wayne
> 
> On 12/12/19, terri...@gmail.com  wrote:
>> Hello Pam,
>> I am not sure the 4th generation watch is readily available. It was roomered
>> that Apple was not going to sell the 4th gen after the 5th gen was released.
>> They did the same with the 2nd generation watch after the 3rd gen was
>> released. I have been seeing the 3rd gen advertised for $199. longer
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
>> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 5:09 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Differences in Generations of Apple Watch
>> 
>> All,
>> 
>> I currently have a second generation watch and am looking at possibly
>> upgrading.  Would it be worth considering the 4th generation rather than the
>> 5th if I can get it significantly cheaper, or are there enough improvements
>> from the 4th to the 5th generation that this would not be a good idea?  I am
>> assuming the 3rd generation would not be enough of an upgrade from the 2nd
>> generation to warrant purchasing that.
>> 
>> Thanks for any input.
>> 
>> Pam
>> 
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Re: Differences in Generations of Apple Watch

[Wayne Merritt]

If you can get a 4th gen or 5th gen, VoiceOver will run much better on
those than the older generations. VoiceOver was very sluggish on my
second generation, and I upgraded to a forth generation. You may be
able to find some from folks on Facebook or eBay, or used on Amazon.
The other things about the newer watches is the screens are much
bigger, 40 or 44 MM, which means more apps or complications on the
watch face.

Wayne

On 12/12/19, terri...@gmail.com  wrote:
> Hello Pam,
> I am not sure the 4th generation watch is readily available. It was roomered
> that Apple was not going to sell the 4th gen after the 5th gen was released.
> They did the same with the 2nd generation watch after the 3rd gen was
> released. I have been seeing the 3rd gen advertised for $199. longer
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 5:09 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Differences in Generations of Apple Watch
>
> All,
>
> I currently have a second generation watch and am looking at possibly
> upgrading.  Would it be worth considering the 4th generation rather than the
> 5th if I can get it significantly cheaper, or are there enough improvements
> from the 4th to the 5th generation that this would not be a good idea?  I am
> assuming the 3rd generation would not be enough of an upgrade from the 2nd
> generation to warrant purchasing that.
>
> Thanks for any input.
>
> Pam
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RE: Differences in Generations of Apple Watch

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Hello Pam,
I am not sure the 4th generation watch is readily available. It was roomered 
that Apple was not going to sell the 4th gen after the 5th gen was released. 
They did the same with the 2nd generation watch after the 3rd gen was released. 
I have been seeing the 3rd gen advertised for $199. longer 

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Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2019 5:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Differences in Generations of Apple Watch

All,

I currently have a second generation watch and am looking at possibly 
upgrading.  Would it be worth considering the 4th generation rather than the 
5th if I can get it significantly cheaper, or are there enough improvements 
from the 4th to the 5th generation that this would not be a good idea?  I am 
assuming the 3rd generation would not be enough of an upgrade from the 2nd 
generation to warrant purchasing that.

Thanks for any input.

Pam


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Re: Differences in Generations of Apple Watch

[Anna Dresner]

Hi Pam,

The main things the fifth generation watch has that the fourth doesn't are a 
built-in compass and the ability to remain on all the time so a sighted person 
can look at the time without waking the watch.

Best,
Anna


> On Dec 12, 2019, at 6:09 PM, Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND 
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> All,
> 
> I currently have a second generation watch and am looking at possibly 
> upgrading.  Would it be worth considering the 4th generation rather than the 
> 5th if I can get it significantly cheaper, or are there enough improvements 
> from the 4th to the 5th generation that this would not be a good idea?  I am 
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> 
> Pam
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Differences in Generations of Apple Watch

[Ekstrand, Pamela A. -ND]

All,

I currently have a second generation watch and am looking at possibly 
upgrading.  Would it be worth considering the 4th generation rather than the 
5th if I can get it significantly cheaper, or are there enough improvements 
from the 4th to the 5th generation that this would not be a good idea?  I am 
assuming the 3rd generation would not be enough of an upgrade from the 2nd 
generation to warrant purchasing that.

Thanks for any input.

Pam


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Apple Card vs. Apple Pay vs. Apple Cash: Differences you need to know, cNet

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Apple Card vs. Apple Pay vs. Apple Cash
Apple's three payment methods live in the Apple Wallet and can get confusing
fast.
By Katie ConnerAugust 7, 2019 2:30 AM PDT
 
Apple Pay isn't the same as Apple Cash. We iron it out.
Jason Cipriani/CNET 
Apple is officially in the credit card game with the Apple Card, a mostly
digital card that's available now for those who've received invites. With
its tight ties to the iPhone ($1,000 at Amazon) -- you can't actually use
Apple Card without one -- Apple is once again using its services to help
make the iPhone more valuable to its loyal users. As with iOS 13, the new
mobile software coming to iPhones in fall, making the software on the device
appealing is as important as making the device itself attention-grabbing.
The role of these services is especially important as iPhone sales continue
to slow. 
Apple Card is a big enough beast on its own, with a physical card and plenty
of fine print, but it won't replace Apple Pay or Apple Cash, which is where
things get confusing. 
See, Apple Card, Apple Pay and Apple Cash will all be accessible from your
iPhone's digital wallet -- they each have their own purpose. Here's what
they are, and how you'll use them.
If you're interested in learning more about setting up using Apple Pay,
watch the How To Use Apple Pay video below.
Apple Pay is the lynchpin
Apple Pay is the name of the system that makes digital payments with your
iPhone possible. It lives in the Wallet app and was designed to replace the
need to cart around physical payment cards. As with Google Pay and Samsung
Pay, you load the details of your real-life credit and debit cards into the
Apple Pay app. Then, you can call up your virtual credit card to make
payments online or in stores with your iPhone instead of thumbing through
your wallet for your card. 
Apple Pay requires your authentication in order to kick off a payment.
You'll either scan your face using Face ID, scan your fingerprint or type in
your passcode to verify your identity. In stores, you'll hold the iPhone
near the NFC payment terminal until you see confirmation. For online
purchases, you'll verify your identity, and the software will take over from
there to complete the purchase.
Apple Pay works on its own, but you can add an Apple Card as one of your
credit cards (see below for more details) and can use Apple Cash to shuttle
funds to and from your friends and family. 

Apple's digital card lives in the Wallet app, but there's also a physical
card.
Apple Card is tied to your bank account
Apple's new credit card is backed by Mastercard and Goldman Sachs. It acts
like a "real" credit card just like the plastic or metal card in your wallet
or purse, with interest rates and up to 3% cash back, but it mostly lives as
a digital card on your phone. 
There's also a physical card element, with Apple shipping you a slick
titanium rectangle with your name engraved on it. This is to use on the
occasion that a brick-and-mortar store doesn't take Apple Pay. 
What does Apple Pay have to do with it? Everything. Apple Card is one more
card that you can use digitally with Apple Pay. Instead of loading in and
using your usual bank card from Chase or Wells Fargo, you use your Apple
Card from Goldman Sachs. 
Convenience and a strong emphasis on security are two reasons you'd use
Apple Card, and we recommend reading up on all the Apple Card details if
you're interested in signing up this summer. Remember, you can continue to
use Apple's digital payment system with your own credit cards. 

Apple Cash is peer-to-peer
Apple Cash is a service that's built into the Apple Pay platform that lets
you send, receive and request money from others through iMessages. 
Apple refers to it as a "prepaid debit card in your Apple Wallet." It's
similar to Venmo, but you'll have to add money to your Apple Cash account by
using your debit card in the Wallet app. Apple confirmed that credit cards
are no longer supported in Apple Cash. Apple Cash works across iOS devices
like iPhone, Apple Watch ($349 at Amazon), iPad ($249 at Walmart) and Mac.

To use Apple Cash, you must be at least 18 years old and be a US resident.
You'll need to have iOS 11.2 or later, or if you're using an Apple Watch,
WatchOS 4.2 or later. You'll also want to make sure you're signed into
iCloud on each device you want to send and receive money through. You launch
the request in iMessages and confirm with Face ID, Touch ID or your
passcode. 
When you receive cash from a contact, you'll find it in a digital Apple Cash
card in the Wallet (you'll have to agree to the terms and conditions to set
this up). You can use this cash to make payments in stores, in apps and
online -- or you can transfer your balance to your bank account. You can
also transfer the balance to your bank account linked to Apple Pay.
Mentioned Above

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RE: Size differences in latest iPhones

[Sieghard Weitzel]

The iPhone XS has a 5.8 inch OLED screen and the iPhone XR has a 6.1 inch LCD 
screen.

iPhone XS: 5.8 inch OLED Screen
Dimensions (imperial): 5.65 by 2.79 by 0.3 inches
Dimensions (metric): 143.6 by 70.9 by 7.7 mm
Weight (imperial): 6.24 ounces
Weight (metric): 177 grams
Comes in Gold, Space Grey and Silver

iPhone XR: 6.1 inch LCD Screen
Dimensions (imperial): 5.94 By 2.98 by 0.33 inches
Dimensions (metric): 150.9 by 75.7 by 8.3 mm
Weight (imperial): 6.84 ounces
Weight (metric): 194 grams
Comes in RED, Yellow, White, Coral, Black and Blue

Size difference:
The iPhone XR is 0.29 inches longer, 0.19 inches wider and 0.03 inches thicker 
than the iPhone XS
The iPhone XR weighs 0.6 ounces more than the iPhone XS
In metric the difference is 7.3mm longer, 4.8mm wider and 0.6mm thicker, it 
weighs 17 grams more.

How to visualize that:
0.29 inches longer means the iPhone XR is longer than the iPhone XS by the 
thickness of your iPhone 6S which in fact is 0.28 inches thick, but you would 
never be able to tell the difference between 0.29 and 0.28.
In width the difference is even less, only 0.19 inches which is just under 5mm 
or about as much as maybe 3 or 4 average business cards stacked on top of each 
other.
I won't even make a big deal of the thickness, at 0.03 inches it is so little 
difference, only just over half a millimeter, that's probably the thickness of 
a sheet of paper.
As for weight 0.6 ounces or 17 grams is also not very much, it's about a table 
spoon and a half of sugar.


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Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 7:08 AM
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Subject: Size differences in latest iPhones

Hello all,

This is my last message for now.

I was wondering, what are the differences in the iPhone XR, and the XS?
Which 1 is the smallest?
And how is the battery life, compared to say, the 6S, or even the 8?

Thank you,

Terri

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RE: Size differences in latest iPhones

[Richard Turner]

Allow me to expand on my previous message.  In fact, it looks like the XR has 
better battery life.  Here is the article that points this out:


  *   iPhone XR<https://www.idropnews.com/iphone-xr/>/
  *   iPhone<https://www.idropnews.com/news/iphone/>/
  *   iPhone XR Has the Best Battery Life of Any iPhone, 
Ever<https://www.idropnews.com/news/iphone/iphone-xr-has-the-best-battery-life-of-any-iphone-ever/83193/>

iPhone XR Has the Best Battery Life of Any iPhone, Ever
By Mike Peterson<https://www.idropnews.com/author/mike-peterson/> September 14, 
2018
[Iphone Xr1]Credit: CNET<https://www.cnet.com/>
Text Size
- +

The newly announced, mid-range iPhone XR lineup may just have the 
best-estimated battery life of any Apple handset ever.

Apple didn’t make a big deal out of it, either. During the Gather Round 
keynote, Apple SVP Phill Schiller only said that the iPhone XR would get 1.5 
more hours of battery life than the iPhone 8 
Plus<https://www.idropnews.com/news/iphone-8-plus-has-the-longest-battery-life-heres-how-your-iphone-ranks/80861/>.

Compare that to the battery in the iPhone XS Max, which the company made a 
point of calling the biggest battery ever put into an iPhone. (Though Apple 
compared its battery life to the iPhone X, whose battery life falls slightly 
short of the iPhone 8 Plus.)

Of course, a bigger battery doesn’t always translate to longer battery life — 
the stated battery lives of the iPhone XS Max and the iPhone XR prove that 
point.

According to Apple, the iPhone XS Max’s battery will last through up to 13 
hours of internet use, 25 hours of talk time, 15 hours of video playback, or 65 
hours of audio playback.

But the iPhone XR’s battery life specifications list up to 25 hours of talk 
time, 15 hours of internet use, 16 hours of video playback, and 65 hours of 
audio playback.

While those battery specs are roughly the same, the iPhone XR manages to edge 
out its larger stablemate by an hour or so in internet usage and video playback 
— despite, presumably, having a smaller battery.

In other words, this means the iPhone XR has the longest-lasting battery life 
of any iPhone Apple has produced.

Why Does the iPhone XR Last Longer?

It’s hard to pin down exactly why the iPhone XR has the best battery life among 
Apple’s lineup, but there’s likely one reason that’s a big contributor: the 
display.

Generally, OLED displays are thought to be more efficient than LCD displays. 
Which is curious because the iPhone XS Max has an OLED, while the iPhone XR has 
a so-called “Liquid Retina” LCD-based display.

But, as PhoneArena points 
out<https://www.phonearena.com/news/iPhone-XR-best-battery-life_id108779>, the 
difference likely comes down to pixel density.

The iPhone XR has a relatively low screen resolution for a modern flagship, 
especially when compared to the iPhone XS Max. (For reference, the XR has 
828×1792 pixels versus the XS Max’s 2,688×1,241 pixels.)

What that amounts to an objectively lower-resolution display, it likely plays a 
big role in the iPhone XR’s pixel density.

In PhoneArena’s testing, higher pixel density typically means lower battery 
life when capacities are averaged. Thus, the iPhone XR’s lower-resolution 
display means the device has an advantage when it comes to battery life.

Apple’s Battery Improvements

Apple, of course, seems to be continually improving the battery technology 
embedded in its devices. That may be especially true 
post-Batterygate<https://www.idropnews.com/news/users-jump-hoops-get-29-iphone-battery-replacement/59557/>.

Batteries degrade and worsen over time. But as battery tech improves over the 
years, the effects of that may lessen.

And while the future of smartphones that last weeks on a charge may be quite a 
ways 
off<https://www.idropnews.com/news/this-incredible-new-battery-tech-is-safer-lasts-longer-than-lithium-ion/80420/>,
 any battery life gains should be seen as a win for consumers.
Read Next: iPhone XS Max, Apple Watch S4 Delivery Estimates Push Back to 
October<https://www.idropnews.com/news/iphone/iphone-xs-max-apple-watch-s4-delivery-estimates-push-back-to-october/83184/>

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pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Terri 
Stimmel
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 7:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Size differences in latest iPhones

 Hello Richard and list,

Thank you for this. That was helpful. So I appreciate it. I just have one more 
question.

 It mentioned the different batteries in the phones. If the number is higher, 
say 2600 versus 2900. Does this mean that the 2900 size battery is larger, and 
might last longer?
 Those weren’t the exact numbers given. That just was an idea.

Thank you,

Terri

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RE: Size differences in latest iPhones

[Richard Turner]

Yes, a larger capacity battery will last longer, but the $250 price difference 
between the XR and XS unless you need the extra large screen would buy a couple 
nice battery packs that would give far more battery life.

I couldn’t help but editorialize.

Richard



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pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Terri 
Stimmel
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 7:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Size differences in latest iPhones

 Hello Richard and list,

Thank you for this. That was helpful. So I appreciate it. I just have one more 
question.

 It mentioned the different batteries in the phones. If the number is higher, 
say 2600 versus 2900. Does this mean that the 2900 size battery is larger, and 
might last longer?
 Those weren’t the exact numbers given. That just was an idea.

Thank you,

Terri

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Here is a web site that will give you a straight comparison between the XR and 
XS.
https://www.idownloadblog.com/2018/09/20/iphone-xs-iphone-xr-comparison/<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.idownloadblog.com%2F2018%2F09%2F20%2Fiphone-xs-iphone-xr-comparison%2F=02%7C01%7C%7Cf0545602c25e4ec4693908d6636d48d8%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636805718348458905=W1BUsnEBmxH0ZaDevCE4d9YsYYQwQf8%2Fmp28dSxWvFg%3D=0>

Richard



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
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Subject: Size differences in latest iPhones

Hello all,

This is my last message for now.

I was wondering, what are the differences in the iPhone XR, and the XS?
Which 1 is the smallest?
And how is the battery life, compared to say, the 6S, or even the 8?

Thank you,

Terri

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[Terri Stimmel]

 Hello Richard and list,

Thank you for this. That was helpful. So I appreciate it. I just have one more 
question.

 It mentioned the different batteries in the phones. If the number is higher, 
say 2600 versus 2900. Does this mean that the 2900 size battery is larger, and 
might last longer?
 Those weren’t the exact numbers given. That just was an idea.

Thank you,

Terri

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com on behalf of Richard Turner 

Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 9:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Size differences in latest iPhones

Here is a web site that will give you a straight comparison between the XR and 
XS.
https://www.idownloadblog.com/2018/09/20/iphone-xs-iphone-xr-comparison/

Richard



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Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2018 7:08 AM
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Subject: Size differences in latest iPhones

Hello all,

This is my last message for now.

I was wondering, what are the differences in the iPhone XR, and the XS?
Which 1 is the smallest?
And how is the battery life, compared to say, the 6S, or even the 8?

Thank you,

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RE: Size differences in latest iPhones

[Richard Turner]

Here is a web site that will give you a straight comparison between the XR and 
XS.
https://www.idownloadblog.com/2018/09/20/iphone-xs-iphone-xr-comparison/

Richard



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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Terri 
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Subject: Size differences in latest iPhones

Hello all,

This is my last message for now.

I was wondering, what are the differences in the iPhone XR, and the XS?
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Size differences in latest iPhones

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello all,

This is my last message for now.

I was wondering, what are the differences in the iPhone XR, and the XS?
Which 1 is the smallest?
And how is the battery life, compared to say, the 6S, or even the 8?

Thank you,

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Re: Differences between the iPhone 7, an iPhone 8?

[Gordon]

there really isn't much difference as far as we're concerned. the 7 and 
8 are the same size, but the 8 has a glass front and back to allow for 
wireless charging which the 7 doesn't have. T-mobile sells the 7 for 
$449 which is $150 cheaper than the 8. If you're wanting the 7 or 8 
plus, those will be more expensive of course.



On 11/8/2018 10:27 PM, Terri Stimmel wrote:

Hello everyone,

I know I could look this up and read about it. I could read about the 
differences between the two phones. But sometimes it is easier for me 
to ask on list, because I can look back and read it.


I love my iPhone 6s. I would love to keep it.
 However, within the next month, I will hopefully be receiving the 
continuous glucose monitor ring system. The freestyle Libre.  As you 
can imagine, I am very excited about this prospect. It’s something I 
have been wanting for a while now.


Anyway, in order to be able to use the app on my phone, would this 
interest, I need to have a phone that offers NFC. Of course, my phone 
does not.


 I am most likely going to purchase my phone through T-Mobile, Avenue 
I want to be able to have insurance on it. This is definitely very 
important to me. I would preferred to buy an unlocked phone. But I 
don’t want to go without coverage.


So what are the differences between the iPhone 7, and iPhone 8?
Are there any huge differences I need to be aware of?

Anything you all can tell me will be very much appreciated.

Thank you,

Terri

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Differences between the iPhone 7, an iPhone 8?

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,

I know I could look this up and read about it. I could read about the 
differences between the two phones. But sometimes it is easier for me to ask on 
list, because I can look back and read it.

I love my iPhone 6s. I would love to keep it.
 However, within the next month, I will hopefully be receiving the continuous 
glucose monitor ring system. The freestyle Libre.  As you can imagine, I am 
very excited about this prospect. It’s something I have been wanting for a 
while now.

Anyway, in order to be able to use the app on my phone, would this interest, I 
need to have a phone that offers NFC. Of course, my phone does not.

 I am most likely going to purchase my phone through T-Mobile, Avenue I want to 
be able to have insurance on it. This is definitely very important to me. I 
would preferred to buy an unlocked phone. But I don’t want to go without 
coverage.

So what are the differences between the iPhone 7, and iPhone 8?
Are there any huge differences I need to be aware of?

Anything you all can tell me will be very much appreciated.

Thank you,

Terri

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Re: Differences between streaming and downloading music

[christopher hallsworth]

Spot on. Download a song, album or playlist, then it will only be on that 
device. Cancelling your subscription means you will lose all that, unless you 
have purchased or ripped them from your own collection and uploaded them via 
iTunes Match. Adding to library simply makes it available on all devices signed 
into the same Apple Music subscription; it does not automatically download them 
to that device.

> On 12 Apr 2018, at 17:09, Terri Stimmel  wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> I have Apple music and I love it!
> 
> But sense this topic about iTunes has come up, I have a question or 2.
> 
> 
> If you use Apple music, and you download an album or song to your 
> device, is it only going to be on that device?
> 
> Also, if you were to give up Apple music, then whatever you have 
> downloaded you would lose, correct?
> 
> And lastly, if it's just added to my library, that's different from 
> actually downloading it?
> 
> 
> Any help is much appreciated.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 4/12/2018 11:00 AM, Esther Levegnale wrote:
>> Hi, Kathy,
>> 
>> I should have clarified myself a little better.  I download music from Apple 
>> Music using a monthly subscription.  I do, however, stream music as well.  
>> Esther
>> 
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>> 
>>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:48 AM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You’re talking about what you purchase being covered for the month: I 
>>> didn’t think that with Apple Music you purchase anything, but you were just 
>>> streaming, and all that is covered for the month. If they do stop 
>>> downloads, I guess they’re thinking, that you could create a playlist if 
>>> you just want individual songs, but if you should want to burn some songs 
>>> onto a CD, or, share an individual song with someone like are you like to 
>>> do sometimes, I don’t see how you could if they discontinue being able to 
>>> download.
>>> 
 On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:35 AM, Esther Levegnale  
 wrote:
 
 Hi, Kathy!
 
 Wow!  That’s too bad because so many people such as I download music from 
 iTunes.  However, I’ve been using Apple Music for quite some time and 
 really enjoy it.  Perhaps this discontinuation might have something to do 
 with the fact that with iTunes, you pay for each download individually, 
 whereas with Apple Music, you pay a monthly charge for whatever downloads 
 you purchase during that month altogether rather than doing individual 
 purchases.  I hope I’m not as clear as mud on this issue, but the 
 above-mentioned fact could be the reason.  I know that I don’t use iTunes 
 as regularly as I had in the past before I acquired Apple Music.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Esther Levegnale
 
 Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
 
> On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:30 AM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
> 
> Heard this today as part of a business report. This is like Verizon 
> firing the copper wire repair people so that they can tell people they 
> have to go on to fios. At least the one article I read subsequently said 
> that you would still have access to Music you already bought..
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Re: Differences between streaming and downloading music

[Mary Otten]

You can download stuff from Apple Music. If you cancel a subscription, you will 
lose access to all of those downloads, because they have DRM. And that’s going 
to go away if you cancel an Apple Music subscription,  whether you have 
downloaded the songs or are streaming. The only things you get to keep are 
things you have purchased, or of course, anything you have ripped from your own 
collection that has been uploaded as part of an iTunes match subscription. I 
just went through my tech news, and I saw absolutely nothing about this. 
Strange.

Mary


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> On Apr 12, 2018, at 9:09 AM, Terri Stimmel  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> I have Apple music and I love it!
> 
> But sense this topic about iTunes has come up, I have a question or 2.
> 
> 
> If you use Apple music, and you download an album or song to your 
> device, is it only going to be on that device?
> 
> Also, if you were to give up Apple music, then whatever you have 
> downloaded you would lose, correct?
> 
> And lastly, if it's just added to my library, that's different from 
> actually downloading it?
> 
> 
> Any help is much appreciated.
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 4/12/2018 11:00 AM, Esther Levegnale wrote:
>> Hi, Kathy,
>> 
>> I should have clarified myself a little better.  I download music from Apple 
>> Music using a monthly subscription.  I do, however, stream music as well.  
>> Esther
>> 
>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>> 
>>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:48 AM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You’re talking about what you purchase being covered for the month: I 
>>> didn’t think that with Apple Music you purchase anything, but you were just 
>>> streaming, and all that is covered for the month. If they do stop 
>>> downloads, I guess they’re thinking, that you could create a playlist if 
>>> you just want individual songs, but if you should want to burn some songs 
>>> onto a CD, or, share an individual song with someone like are you like to 
>>> do sometimes, I don’t see how you could if they discontinue being able to 
>>> download.
>>> 
 On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:35 AM, Esther Levegnale  
 wrote:
 
 Hi, Kathy!
 
 Wow!  That’s too bad because so many people such as I download music from 
 iTunes.  However, I’ve been using Apple Music for quite some time and 
 really enjoy it.  Perhaps this discontinuation might have something to do 
 with the fact that with iTunes, you pay for each download individually, 
 whereas with Apple Music, you pay a monthly charge for whatever downloads 
 you purchase during that month altogether rather than doing individual 
 purchases.  I hope I’m not as clear as mud on this issue, but the 
 above-mentioned fact could be the reason.  I know that I don’t use iTunes 
 as regularly as I had in the past before I acquired Apple Music.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Esther Levegnale
 
 Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
 
> On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:30 AM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
> 
> Heard this today as part of a business report. This is like Verizon 
> firing the copper wire repair people so that they can tell people they 
> have to go on to fios. At least the one article I read subsequently said 
> that you would still have access to Music you already bought..
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Differences between streaming and downloading music

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


I have Apple music and I love it!

But sense this topic about iTunes has come up, I have a question or 2.


If you use Apple music, and you download an album or song to your 
device, is it only going to be on that device?

Also, if you were to give up Apple music, then whatever you have 
downloaded you would lose, correct?

And lastly, if it's just added to my library, that's different from 
actually downloading it?


Any help is much appreciated.


Thank you,




On 4/12/2018 11:00 AM, Esther Levegnale wrote:
> Hi, Kathy,
>
> I should have clarified myself a little better.  I download music from Apple 
> Music using a monthly subscription.  I do, however, stream music as well.  
> Esther
>
> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>
>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:48 AM, Kathy Brandt  wrote:
>>
>> You’re talking about what you purchase being covered for the month: I didn’t 
>> think that with Apple Music you purchase anything, but you were just 
>> streaming, and all that is covered for the month. If they do stop downloads, 
>> I guess they’re thinking, that you could create a playlist if you just want 
>> individual songs, but if you should want to burn some songs onto a CD, or, 
>> share an individual song with someone like are you like to do sometimes, I 
>> don’t see how you could if they discontinue being able to download.
>>
>>> On Apr 12, 2018, at 11:35 AM, Esther Levegnale  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi, Kathy!
>>>
>>> Wow!  That’s too bad because so many people such as I download music from 
>>> iTunes.  However, I’ve been using Apple Music for quite some time and 
>>> really enjoy it.  Perhaps this discontinuation might have something to do 
>>> with the fact that with iTunes, you pay for each download individually, 
>>> whereas with Apple Music, you pay a monthly charge for whatever downloads 
>>> you purchase during that month altogether rather than doing individual 
>>> purchases.  I hope I’m not as clear as mud on this issue, but the 
>>> above-mentioned fact could be the reason.  I know that I don’t use iTunes 
>>> as regularly as I had in the past before I acquired Apple Music.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Esther Levegnale
>>>
>>> Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+!
>>>
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 Heard this today as part of a business report. This is like Verizon firing 
 the copper wire repair people so that they can tell people they have to go 
 on to fios. At least the one article I read subsequently said that you 
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Re: Differences in reminders App and the calendar

[Wayne Merritt]

If you use Fantastical II, then you can have both reminders and
calendar appointments in the same place. Also, Fantastical lets you
set more than 2 alerts before a calendar event. At times, I have set 3
alerts for a doctor appointment, 1 a week before, and the other two
leading up to the appointment time. I typically use the calendar for
appointments and to remind myself of automatic monthly payments, and
the Reminders I use for very important things  I need to do right
away.

Wayne

On 4/4/18, Chris Chaffin <chaffin102...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> OK, I will try to give you some answers.
>
> The biggest difference in the Calendar app and the Reminders app is that
> once the time of an event in the Calendar goes by, you will not see it
> again.  But in the reminders app, each reminder has a checkbox, and it will
> remain in your reminder list until you check the check box.
> It is really up to you how you choose to use the calendar or reminder apps.
> But personally, I use the calendar app for things like doctor appointments,
> birthdays, and other events like that.  I use the reminder app for task that
> I need to get done and want to be reminded of, like taking meds, paying
> bills, and even simple little household chores.
> The good thing about reminders is that they have that checkbox, so if you
> get a notification about a reminder that it is time to take care of, but you
> are busy doing something else at the time, and once your done you forget
> about that reminder, no worries, it is still in your list of reminders so
> when you check, you will see it there and you can take care of it then.
>
> One other thing about reminders is that you do not have to assign a date and
> time to the reminder.  This is good for making list like for shopping or
> packing when taking a trip.
>
> Now, you asked about getting a reminder prior to a calender event to let you
> know that it is coming up.  Yes, you can do this, and they are called
> Alerts.
> Currently you can have up to 2 alerts for each calendar event.  They can be
> 5, 15, 30 minutes, 1 hour, 1 day, 2 days, or 1 week before the event.
>
> Both, the Calendar and Reminder app can be very helpful tools in keeping
> track of every day task and appointments that you might have.  It is really
> up to you how you use them.
>
> Chris
>
>
>> On Apr 4, 2018, at 7:53 AM, Terri Stimmel <icecreamlove...@outlook.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>>
>> I have always wondered, what's the differences between the reminders App
>> and the calendar?
>>
>> What are reasons for using reminders, instead of the calendar?
>>
>> Also, can you set up a reminder in the calendar to remind you a couple
>> of days ahead of an appointment?
>>
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>>
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Re: Differences in reminders App and the calendar

[Chris Chaffin]

OK, I will try to give you some answers.

The biggest difference in the Calendar app and the Reminders app is that once 
the time of an event in the Calendar goes by, you will not see it again.  But 
in the reminders app, each reminder has a checkbox, and it will remain in your 
reminder list until you check the check box.
It is really up to you how you choose to use the calendar or reminder apps.  
But personally, I use the calendar app for things like doctor appointments, 
birthdays, and other events like that.  I use the reminder app for task that I 
need to get done and want to be reminded of, like taking meds, paying bills, 
and even simple little household chores.
The good thing about reminders is that they have that checkbox, so if you get a 
notification about a reminder that it is time to take care of, but you are busy 
doing something else at the time, and once your done you forget about that 
reminder, no worries, it is still in your list of reminders so when you check, 
you will see it there and you can take care of it then.

One other thing about reminders is that you do not have to assign a date and 
time to the reminder.  This is good for making list like for shopping or 
packing when taking a trip.

Now, you asked about getting a reminder prior to a calender event to let you 
know that it is coming up.  Yes, you can do this, and they are called Alerts.
Currently you can have up to 2 alerts for each calendar event.  They can be 5, 
15, 30 minutes, 1 hour, 1 day, 2 days, or 1 week before the event.

Both, the Calendar and Reminder app can be very helpful tools in keeping track 
of every day task and appointments that you might have.  It is really up to you 
how you use them.

Chris


> On Apr 4, 2018, at 7:53 AM, Terri Stimmel <icecreamlove...@outlook.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello everyone,
> 
> 
> I have always wondered, what's the differences between the reminders App 
> and the calendar?
> 
> What are reasons for using reminders, instead of the calendar?
> 
> Also, can you set up a reminder in the calendar to remind you a couple 
> of days ahead of an appointment?
> 
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Terri
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RE: Differences in reminders App and the calendar

[Tom Rash]

If I want a reminder a day before an appointment, this is what I do:  I say, 
"Set a reminder for April 10"  Siri will ask, "what  do you wwant to be 
reminded about?".  Then I say, "I have a doctor appointment tomorrow at 11:00 
A.M.
That's how I do it.


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Stimmel
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Subject: Differences in reminders App and the calendar

Hello everyone,


I have always wondered, what's the differences between the reminders App and 
the calendar?

What are reasons for using reminders, instead of the calendar?

Also, can you set up a reminder in the calendar to remind you a couple of days 
ahead of an appointment?


Thank you,


Terri

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Differences in reminders App and the calendar

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everyone,


I have always wondered, what's the differences between the reminders App 
and the calendar?

What are reasons for using reminders, instead of the calendar?

Also, can you set up a reminder in the calendar to remind you a couple 
of days ahead of an appointment?


Thank you,


Terri

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Calendar date differences.

[Malcolm Parfitt]

When the clock on my iPhone showed midnight the calendar item on the home page 
still showed yesterday’s date.  However, when I launched the calendar app it 
correctly identified that the date had changed from 4Th to 5 Th February.  It 
took around 6 minutes fr the change to be reflected on the home page.

The date complication on my Apple Watch correctly changed at midnight.

As anyone else noticed this discrepancy on their iPhones?

Malcolm

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Consumer Reports ranks iPhone 8/8 Plus over iPhone X after battery and durability differences

[Mary Otten]

Consumer Reports ranks iPhone 8/8 Plus over iPhone X after battery and 
durability differences
9to5Mac  /  Zac Hall


Consumer Reports has published its 2017 iPhone comparison and in it the 
publication has somehow rated the iPhone X below the iPhone 8 and iPhone 8 
Plus, but there’s certainly no need to trade down if you’re an iPhone X owner. 
While there’s nothing wrong with either iPhone 8 model, CR points to 
differences in battery life and durability testing for its ranking that may not 
apply to real world usage.


The ranking cites durability through its drop test as a small part of the 
recommendation decision:

We tumbled three samples of the iPhone X. The first was fine after 50 drops, 
but the glass on the back was significantly cracked after 100. The other two 
phones ended up with malfunctioning displays after 50 drops. Though the front 
glass didn’t crack, several bright green bars stretched across the screens from 
top to bottom.

iPhone 8, 8 Plus, and X are each glass front and back phones of varying sizes, 
however, so recommending one over another for this reason isn’t likely to have 
a real world impact, and I would guess that most people use cases anyway.

More practical is CR‘s battery test which uses the same testing method to 
determine how long each iPhone model lasts on a single charge:

To find out exactly how long a phone’s battery can go, Consumer Reports uses a 
robotic finger programmed to put the phone through a range of tasks designed to 
simulate a consumer’s average day.

The robot browses the internet, takes pictures, uses GPS navigation, and, of 
course, makes phone calls. We run all smartphone battery tests with the display 
set to 100 percent brightness. If you use any phone’s auto, or adaptive, 
brightness, the battery should last longer.

This testing method may not match what Apple rates each iPhone, but it’s a fair 
comparison of battery life differences with each iPhone as long as the testing 
method is the same.

The results? 19.5 hours for iPhone X, 19 hours for iPhone 8 and SE, and 21 
hours for iPhone 8 Plus. Given those results, I’d still recommend the iPhone X 
over the larger bodied 8 Plus as 90 minutes of battery life may not be worth 
always using a bigger phone.



CR has a habit of undervaluing photography differences that customers typically 
appreciate, and its Apple hardware reviews don’t always align with the general 
consensus.

iPhone 8 is best if you want flagship performance without a premium price or 
having to learn new interactions and iPhone 8 Plus is best if you want the 
absolute widest display, but durability and battery life probably shouldn’t be 
reasons to not choose iPhone X.

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RE: Differences between the calendar, and reminders

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Anna,

My birthday is April 19, I'd like 4 of the Sonos 1 speakers, please *smile*.
OK, I also want an iPhone X 256 Gb, but I didn't want to be unreasonable.

Have a good weekend,
Sieghard

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Woody Anna Dresner
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Subject: Re: Differences between the calendar, and reminders

Hi,

in addition, I should point out that when you set a calendar appointment with 
the built-in app, you can set two alarms. There's also a nice feature for 
all-day events like birthdays. I have mine set to tell me about someone's 
birthday the week before so I have time to get them a present, and then on the 
day so I remember to get in touch.

Best,
Anna




> On Nov 17, 2017, at 1:12 PM, Wayne Merritt <wcmerr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> In addition, there are other apps, like Alarmed, where you can set 
> multiple alarms for an event. So you might have the actual alarm at 
> 8:30, but then a couple of pre-alarms at 8:20 and 8:25, reminding you 
> about the pending appointment. Or, you could get an app like 
> Fantastical II, which includes calendar events and reminders in the 
> same interface. Some people prefer reminders and some prefer 
> appointments. I tend to use the calendar for appointments, and for 
> very important reminders, like calling to make an appointment at a 
> doctor, I will set a reminder. I have Fantastical so I can do either 
> item at any time. Fantastical is a paid app, at about $2.99, but if 
> you use the calendar and reminders a lot then it is well worth the 
> cost.
> 
> Wayne
> 
> On 11/16/17, Woody Anna Dresner <wadres...@att.net> wrote:
>> Hi Terry,
>> 
>> Reminders are basically items on a to-do list. You can create a 
>> reminder that goes off at a particular time, when you leave or exit a 
>> particular location, or that never reminds you but is simply there in 
>> a list, so you could use it as a shopping or packing list, for 
>> example. If you set a time- or location-based reminder, you get an 
>> alert, and you can then mark the item as complete.
>> 
>> You can set your calendar so that you get an alarm reminding you 
>> about any event you add, and you can control when the alarms go off. 
>> For instance, I have mine set so that an alarm goes off 15 minutes 
>> before an appointment. I live in a small town, and 15 minutes is 
>> enough warning to still make the appointment if I forgot about it. 
>> When a calendar alert goes off, you can close it, but there's nothing to 
>> mark as completed.
>> 
>> I hope that helps.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 16, 2017, at 3:32 AM, Terri Stimmel 
>>> <icecreamlove...@outlook.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello everybody,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Alright, I know what a calendar is.
>>> 
>>> But when it comes to the iPhone, what is the difference between the 
>>> calendar App, and the reminders App?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I make notes of when I have appointments coming up. But of course, 
>>> if I don't think to look at my notes for the week, I am likely to 
>>> miss something.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> So would it be best to set up a reminder? Or better to set up within 
>>> the calendar?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> When I used to set up medication reminders, the App would annoy me, 
>>> because if I shut it off, it would still show I had something overdue.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I would appreciate thoughts on this.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Thank you,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Terri
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