nVDA AND ITUNES SHORTCUT COMMANDS?

[Melissa Tucker]

Hello everyone I was wondering if someone could direct me to a list of nvda 
commands for itunes? I'm running the latest version of both applications and 
can't seem to get iTunes to work. I really appreciate it. Thank you. You all 
have a great day If someone could direct me to a list of nvda commands for 
iTunes? I'm running the latest version of both applications and can't seem to 
get iTunes to work. I really appreciate it. Thank you. You all have a great day

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RE: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

[Christopher Chaltain]

It might have worked that way a while ago. I also seem to recall that you could 
only do the beta by installing it to your phone through iTunes on your 
computer. Previously, you had to install a profile to be on the beta and then 
when you left the beta, you had to remove the profile and then wait for the 
next update. A version of IOS or two ago they changed it so you don’t need to 
mess with a profile but just toggle it on and off in the software update page.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2024 1:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

Several years ago, when I had been on the beta, not sure which iOS, but then I 
was told by several Apple employees you had to wipe the phone to get out of the 
beta program.
I’ve turned betas off on my phone now and so when the next release comes out to 
the public, I will see what happens.
I trust you and Sieghard know what you are talking about.




Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715),
JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2024 10:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

No, you don’t have to wipe your phone to get rid of the beta. With both the 
current way betas work and the previous way they worked, you just have to leave 
the beta program and wait for the next release of IOS.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2024 7:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

Sieghard, I was told that to truly get rid of the beta, you had to wipe the 
phone. BUT, if just turning off the beta and waiting for the next release does 
the trick, I will try that and do a backup when the public release is on my 
phone, so if I need to do a restore, I have that backup available. My 
understanding has been that you cannot use a backup made with a beta to 
restore. But, I'm kind of vague on the details...
Off to turn off the beta and see what happens.


Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/



On Feb 14, 2024, at 12:03 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Richard, you could just turn off Beta downloads and then wait the 3 or 4 weeks 
until iOS 17.4 is released to the public. At that point you will get the 
official iOS 17.4 version and you'll be out of the Beta program.
I decided for now to also stop using Betas as I am going to the Philippines for 
a few weeks fairly soon and I won't always have good internet connections and 
just don't want to deal with often weekly Beta updates so I did what I 
described above just before iOS 17.3 was officially released. When it did come 
out for the public I had the upddate just as everybody else, now I just had 
that small iOS 17.3.1 update Apple released, but otherwise I am off the beta 
program for now. It's a lot easier than completely resetting your phone.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

I did not realize what a headache I was in for when I installed the Apple Music 
app.
After that, iTunes only shows Podcasts and audio books.  I have neither.

Further more, WALTRPro couldn’t see my iTunes library even though it was in the 
same place as always.

I got realy frustrated and uninstalled the Apple Music app, and Apple Devices 
app.  I had not yet installed the Apple TV app.

I then uninstalled iTunes.
I tried installing iTunes from Microsoft, but when I then ran WALTRPro it said 
the version of iTunes I have is not compatible I need to download the one from 
Apple, after uninstalling the Microsoft Store version.

I got that uninstalled, and allowed WALTRPro to download the Apple version.

I installed that, and miracle of miracles, my library is back in iTunes, with 

RE: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

[Richard Turner]

Several years ago, when I had been on the beta, not sure which iOS, but then I 
was told by several Apple employees you had to wipe the phone to get out of the 
beta program.

I’ve turned betas off on my phone now and so when the next release comes out to 
the public, I will see what happens.

I trust you and Sieghard know what you are talking about.

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com/

 

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 

JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2024 10:54 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

 

No, you don’t have to wipe your phone to get rid of the beta. With both the 
current way betas work and the previous way they worked, you just have to leave 
the beta program and wait for the next release of IOS.

 

--

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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2024 7:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

 

Sieghard, I was told that to truly get rid of the beta, you had to wipe the 
phone. BUT, if just turning off the beta and waiting for the next release does 
the trick, I will try that and do a backup when the public release is on my 
phone, so if I need to do a restore, I have that backup available. My 
understanding has been that you cannot use a backup made with a beta to 
restore. But, I'm kind of vague on the details... 

Off to turn off the beta and see what happens. 

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

 

 

 

On Feb 14, 2024, at 12:03 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

Richard, you could just turn off Beta downloads and then wait the 3 or 4 weeks 
until iOS 17.4 is released to the public. At that point you will get the 
official iOS 17.4 version and you'll be out of the Beta program.

I decided for now to also stop using Betas as I am going to the Philippines for 
a few weeks fairly soon and I won't always have good internet connections and 
just don't want to deal with often weekly Beta updates so I did what I 
described above just before iOS 17.3 was officially released. When it did come 
out for the public I had the upddate just as everybody else, now I just had 
that small iOS 17.3.1 update Apple released, but otherwise I am off the beta 
program for now. It's a lot easier than completely resetting your phone. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

 

I did not realize what a headache I was in for when I installed the Apple Music 
app.

After that, iTunes only shows Podcasts and audio books.  I have neither.

 

Further more, WALTRPro couldn’t see my iTunes library even though it was in the 
same place as always.

 

I got realy frustrated and uninstalled the Apple Music app, and Apple Devices 
app.  I had not yet installed the Apple TV app.

 

I then uninstalled iTunes.

I tried installing iTunes from Microsoft, but when I then ran WALTRPro it said 
the version of iTunes I have is not compatible I need to download the one from 
Apple, after uninstalling the Microsoft Store version.

 

I got that uninstalled, and allowed WALTRPro to download the Apple version.

 

I installed that, and miracle of miracles, my library is back in iTunes, with 
my music.  WALTRPro works again.  And until I am forced to change, this is the 
setup I am sticking with.  It is far, far easier to sync zip files of audio 
books to my iPhone or iPad to use with Voice Dream Reader using WALTRPro than 
with iTunes.  That is almost all I use WALTRPro for.  Sometimes to sync an 
eBook or another file to Voice Dream Reader.

 

Now that I have accomplished this, I’m tempted to wipe my phone to get rid of 
the iOS beta and start fresh and forget screwing with betas since that messes 
up doing backups, etc.

 

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it

RE: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

[Christopher Chaltain]

No, you don’t have to wipe your phone to get rid of the beta. With both the 
current way betas work and the previous way they worked, you just have to leave 
the beta program and wait for the next release of IOS.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2024 7:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

Sieghard, I was told that to truly get rid of the beta, you had to wipe the 
phone. BUT, if just turning off the beta and waiting for the next release does 
the trick, I will try that and do a backup when the public release is on my 
phone, so if I need to do a restore, I have that backup available. My 
understanding has been that you cannot use a backup made with a beta to 
restore. But, I'm kind of vague on the details...
Off to turn off the beta and see what happens.


Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/





On Feb 14, 2024, at 12:03 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

Richard, you could just turn off Beta downloads and then wait the 3 or 4 weeks 
until iOS 17.4 is released to the public. At that point you will get the 
official iOS 17.4 version and you'll be out of the Beta program.
I decided for now to also stop using Betas as I am going to the Philippines for 
a few weeks fairly soon and I won't always have good internet connections and 
just don't want to deal with often weekly Beta updates so I did what I 
described above just before iOS 17.3 was officially released. When it did come 
out for the public I had the upddate just as everybody else, now I just had 
that small iOS 17.3.1 update Apple released, but otherwise I am off the beta 
program for now. It's a lot easier than completely resetting your phone.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

I did not realize what a headache I was in for when I installed the Apple Music 
app.
After that, iTunes only shows Podcasts and audio books.  I have neither.

Further more, WALTRPro couldn’t see my iTunes library even though it was in the 
same place as always.

I got realy frustrated and uninstalled the Apple Music app, and Apple Devices 
app.  I had not yet installed the Apple TV app.

I then uninstalled iTunes.
I tried installing iTunes from Microsoft, but when I then ran WALTRPro it said 
the version of iTunes I have is not compatible I need to download the one from 
Apple, after uninstalling the Microsoft Store version.

I got that uninstalled, and allowed WALTRPro to download the Apple version.

I installed that, and miracle of miracles, my library is back in iTunes, with 
my music.  WALTRPro works again.  And until I am forced to change, this is the 
setup I am sticking with.  It is far, far easier to sync zip files of audio 
books to my iPhone or iPad to use with Voice Dream Reader using WALTRPro than 
with iTunes.  That is almost all I use WALTRPro for.  Sometimes to sync an 
eBook or another file to Voice Dream Reader.

Now that I have accomplished this, I’m tempted to wipe my phone to get rid of 
the iOS beta and start fresh and forget screwing with betas since that messes 
up doing backups, etc.



Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715),
JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400


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Re: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

[David Grossoehme]

I'd contact Apple Accessibility to start with.  However, being this is 
an application in Windows, I'd press the Windows key + the letter f to 
go into the Micro Soft Feedback and send this problem to them as well.  
That way it is being worked on from both ends, so, the hotkeys don't 
compete with some other hotkey.


Dave


On 2/12/2024 4:09 PM, Richard Turner wrote:


I am not finding any shortcuts.  The ones the buttons speak do not 
work for me with Jaws.  I suspect they are meant for a Mac.  Like, 
alt+l, p for play.


I can only pause and play by tabbing to that button and hitting the 
spacebar.


I do not know if authorizing is in the Apple Music app, I have not 
found it.


Since I had already authorized the computer with iTunes, I suspect 
that is not necessary to do again.


I  cannot find a way to do a shortcut for the Apple Music app.  I 
could do that for the Apple Devices app.


HTH,

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God 
stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through 
Hell to get it.”


-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ <https://www.turner42.com/>

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715),

JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf 
Of *Jen .

*Sent:* Monday, February 12, 2024 10:13 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

Hi,

In the Apple Music app on the PC does anyone know what the jaws 
shortcut key is to play and pause a song? Also, how do you make 
shortcuts to the desktop when you are using the apps?




On Feb 12, 2024, at 12:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
wrote:



I am talking about iTunes the program, it will not affect any
music you have saved.

I also wish people would actually read an article if a link is
provided because it clearly states in one of the articles that the
new Apple Music app continues to use the same music library you
have already.

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On
Behalf Of *Robert Doc Wright
*Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2024 9:08 PM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

you can open

C:\users\username\music\itunes media\

copy the music folder and paste it on another drive.

- Original Message -

*From:*llump...@austin.rr.com

*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com

*Sent:*Sunday, February 11, 2024 8:25 AM

*Subject:*RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

My entire music library, both hard-copy cds and apple music
snags are in itunes. What am I to do if/when itunes goes away.

*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com 
*On Behalf Of *Robert Doc Wright
*Sent:* Sunday, February 11, 2024 8:47 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

So are we to assume that ring tones will fall under the
heading of "files" I saw no specific mention of ring tones.

- Original Message -

*From:*Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>

*To:*viphone@googlegroups.com

*Sent:*Sunday, February 11, 2024 12:20 AM

*Subject:*RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

If you had read the two articles I provided links for, you
would know the answer regarding Podcasts and Audio Books:

"For audiobooks and podcasts, Windows users still use the
iTunes for Windows app."

and the person who said these apps for Windows 11 also
didn't read the articles as he stated, but if he had he
would have also read that these apps are available for
both Windows 10 and 11. The article from the Verge also
had links for the user guides for all three apps:

Apple has announced a major change for Windows users who
use iTunes for Windows with an iPhone or to access Apple
Music and Apple TV. For Windows 10 or later, Apple has
released new “standalone experiences” for Apple Music and
Apple TV as well as a new Devices management app to
replace former functionality in iTunes for Windows:

·Apple Devices

<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9NP83LWLPZ9K=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>:
This is the app for iPhone users to manage their iPhones:
perform backups, sync data, and install iOS updates.

·Read the Apple Devices User Guide

<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://support.apple.com/guide/devices-windows/welcome/windows=1-1-2230075-1-0-0

Re: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

[Richard Turner]

Sieghard, I was told that to truly get rid of the beta, you had to wipe the phone. BUT, if just turning off the beta and waiting for the next release does the trick, I will try that and do a backup when the public release is on my phone, so if I need to do a restore, I have that backup available. My understanding has been that you cannot use a backup made with a beta to restore. But, I'm kind of vague on the details... Off to turn off the beta and see what happens. Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Feb 14, 2024, at 12:03 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Richard, you could just turn off Beta downloads and then wait the 3 or 4 weeks until iOS 17.4 is released to the public. At that point you will get the official iOS 17.4 version and you'll
 be out of the Beta program.
I decided for now to also stop using Betas as I am going to the Philippines for a few weeks fairly soon and I won't always have good internet connections and just don't want to deal with often
 weekly Beta updates so I did what I described above just before iOS 17.3 was officially released. When it did come out for the public I had the upddate just as everybody else, now I just had that small iOS 17.3.1 update Apple released, but otherwise I am off
 the beta program for now. It's a lot easier than completely resetting your phone.

 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution


 
I did not realize what a headache I was in for when I installed the Apple Music app.
After that, iTunes only shows Podcasts and audio books.  I have neither.
 
Further more, WALTRPro couldn’t see my iTunes library even though it was in the same place as always.
 
I got realy frustrated and uninstalled the Apple Music app, and Apple Devices app.  I had not yet installed the Apple TV app.
 
I then uninstalled iTunes.
I tried installing iTunes from Microsoft, but when I then ran WALTRPro it said the version of iTunes I have is not compatible I need to download the one from Apple, after uninstalling the Microsoft Store version.
 
I got that uninstalled, and allowed WALTRPro to download the Apple version.
 
I installed that, and miracle of miracles, my library is back in iTunes, with my music.  WALTRPro works again.  And until I am forced to change, this is the setup I am sticking with.  It is far, far easier to sync zip files of audio books
 to my iPhone or iPad to use with Voice Dream Reader using WALTRPro than with iTunes.  That is almost all I use WALTRPro for.  Sometimes to sync an eBook or another file to Voice Dream Reader.
 
Now that I have accomplished this, I’m tempted to wipe my phone to get rid of the iOS beta and start fresh and forget screwing with betas since that messes up doing backups, etc.
 
 
 
Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
 
Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715),

JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400
 
 
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Re: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

[Richard Turner]

Sieghard, you may have something there. Because you installed WALTRPro after those other apps, perhaps it works better that way. I don't want to risk uninstalling WALTRpro just yet because I'm not sure I'll not lose my ability to stick with this version. I frankly do not trust Softorino that much. Fi will revisit that when iTunes is done. But, it works fine right now. Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Feb 13, 2024, at 11:58 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Richard, as I said in my earlier email, I had no issues with Waltr Pro and I had the 3 new apps installed to begin with. I should mention that I don't think I ever had iTunes installed on this
 laptop or maybe I did at some point and I had uninstalled it, but if you have issues with Waltr Pro I assume it has to do with some conflict between iTunes and the new apps. Also, did you install all 3, Apple Music, Apple TV and Apple Devices? Apple support
 clearly states you have to install all 3 apps and once you do iTunes is only good for Podcasts and Audio Books although I assume at some point Apple may release a fourth app for this purpose at which point iTunes will then be entirely discontinued at least
 for newer computers. I assume it will stay around for some time for older computers since there are still a lot of Windows 7 computers out there and you can't run these new apps on a Windows 7 computer, only Windows 10 and 11.
 


From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 5:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution


 
Yes, the Apple Music interface is very accessible. It just screws things up if you are using something like WALTRPRO. 

And, at this point, there is nothing for syncing ringtones if you ever want to add a ringtone other than posibly using Garage Band and Ringtone Maker that Sieghard posted the other day. 




Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
 












On Feb 13, 2024, at 4:20 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:




 

Just as an FYI, but Apple Music’s web interface is pretty accessible.
 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 5:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution


 
Hi Richard, 
 
Wow, what a mess that must have been!  
I was seriously considering using the new Appel Music App.    
So, thank you for the heads up.  
 
Janet  


From:
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On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 2:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution


 
I did not realize what a headache I was in for when I installed the Apple Music app.
After that, iTunes only shows Podcasts and audio books.  I have neither.
 
Further more, WALTRPro couldn’t see my iTunes library even though it was in the same place as always.
 
I got realy frustrated and uninstalled the Apple Music app, and Apple Devices app.  I had not yet installed the Apple TV app.
 
I then uninstalled iTunes.
I tried installing iTunes from Microsoft, but when I then ran WALTRPro it said the version of iTunes I have is not compatible I need to download the one from Apple, after uninstalling the Microsoft Store version.
 
I got that uninstalled, and allowed WALTRPro to download the Apple version.
 
I installed that, and miracle of miracles, my library is back in iTunes, with my music.  WALTRPro works again.  And until I am forced to change, this is the setup I am sticking with.  It is far, far easier to sync zip files of audio books
 to my iPhone or iPad to use with Voice Dream Reader using WALTRPro than with iTunes.  That is almost all I use WALTRPro for.  Sometimes to sync an eBook or another file to Voice Dream Reader.
 
Now that I have accomplished this, I’m tempted to wipe my phone to get rid of the iOS beta and start fresh and forget screwing with betas since that messes up doing backups, etc.
 
 
 
Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
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RE: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Richard, you could just turn off Beta downloads and then wait the 3 or 4 weeks 
until iOS 17.4 is released to the public. At that point you will get the 
official iOS 17.4 version and you'll be out of the Beta program.
I decided for now to also stop using Betas as I am going to the Philippines for 
a few weeks fairly soon and I won't always have good internet connections and 
just don't want to deal with often weekly Beta updates so I did what I 
described above just before iOS 17.3 was officially released. When it did come 
out for the public I had the upddate just as everybody else, now I just had 
that small iOS 17.3.1 update Apple released, but otherwise I am off the beta 
program for now. It's a lot easier than completely resetting your phone.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

I did not realize what a headache I was in for when I installed the Apple Music 
app.
After that, iTunes only shows Podcasts and audio books.  I have neither.

Further more, WALTRPro couldn’t see my iTunes library even though it was in the 
same place as always.

I got realy frustrated and uninstalled the Apple Music app, and Apple Devices 
app.  I had not yet installed the Apple TV app.

I then uninstalled iTunes.
I tried installing iTunes from Microsoft, but when I then ran WALTRPro it said 
the version of iTunes I have is not compatible I need to download the one from 
Apple, after uninstalling the Microsoft Store version.

I got that uninstalled, and allowed WALTRPro to download the Apple version.

I installed that, and miracle of miracles, my library is back in iTunes, with 
my music.  WALTRPro works again.  And until I am forced to change, this is the 
setup I am sticking with.  It is far, far easier to sync zip files of audio 
books to my iPhone or iPad to use with Voice Dream Reader using WALTRPro than 
with iTunes.  That is almost all I use WALTRPro for.  Sometimes to sync an 
eBook or another file to Voice Dream Reader.

Now that I have accomplished this, I’m tempted to wipe my phone to get rid of 
the iOS beta and start fresh and forget screwing with betas since that messes 
up doing backups, etc.



Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

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RE: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Richard, as I said in my earlier email, I had no issues with Waltr Pro and I 
had the 3 new apps installed to begin with. I should mention that I don't think 
I ever had iTunes installed on this laptop or maybe I did at some point and I 
had uninstalled it, but if you have issues with Waltr Pro I assume it has to do 
with some conflict between iTunes and the new apps. Also, did you install all 
3, Apple Music, Apple TV and Apple Devices? Apple support clearly states you 
have to install all 3 apps and once you do iTunes is only good for Podcasts and 
Audio Books although I assume at some point Apple may release a fourth app for 
this purpose at which point iTunes will then be entirely discontinued at least 
for newer computers. I assume it will stay around for some time for older 
computers since there are still a lot of Windows 7 computers out there and you 
can't run these new apps on a Windows 7 computer, only Windows 10 and 11.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 5:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

Yes, the Apple Music interface is very accessible. It just screws things up if 
you are using something like WALTRPRO.
And, at this point, there is nothing for syncing ringtones if you ever want to 
add a ringtone other than posibly using Garage Band and Ringtone Maker that 
Sieghard posted the other day.
Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/





On Feb 13, 2024, at 4:20 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:

Just as an FYI, but Apple Music’s web interface is pretty accessible.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 5:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

Hi Richard,

Wow, what a mess that must have been!
I was seriously considering using the new Appel Music App.
So, thank you for the heads up.

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 2:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

I did not realize what a headache I was in for when I installed the Apple Music 
app.
After that, iTunes only shows Podcasts and audio books.  I have neither.

Further more, WALTRPro couldn’t see my iTunes library even though it was in the 
same place as always.

I got realy frustrated and uninstalled the Apple Music app, and Apple Devices 
app.  I had not yet installed the Apple TV app.

I then uninstalled iTunes.
I tried installing iTunes from Microsoft, but when I then ran WALTRPro it said 
the version of iTunes I have is not compatible I need to download the one from 
Apple, after uninstalling the Microsoft Store version.

I got that uninstalled, and allowed WALTRPro to download the Apple version.

I installed that, and miracle of miracles, my library is back in iTunes, with 
my music.  WALTRPro works again.  And until I am forced to change, this is the 
setup I am sticking with.  It is far, far easier to sync zip files of audio 
books to my iPhone or iPad to use with Voice Dream Reader using WALTRPro than 
with iTunes.  That is almost all I use WALTRPro for.  Sometimes to sync an 
eBook or another file to Voice Dream Reader.

Now that I have accomplished this, I’m tempted to wipe my phone to get rid of 
the iOS beta and start fresh and forget screwing with betas since that messes 
up doing backups, etc.



Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

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RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you want to try Apple Music you also have to download Apple TV and Apple 
Devices, if you don't and open iTunes you will be prompted to download them.
After you download the new apps, all iTunes is good for is Podcasts and Audio 
Books and if you want to go back to using iTunes you have to first uninstall 
the 3 new apps.
And for those who don't believe me, here is an article directly from Apple 
Support, first I give the link for those who want to read it online and next I 
pasted the article for those who don't:

Download iTunes for Windows - Apple 
Support<https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT210384>

In Windows 10 and later, you can access your music, video content, and Apple 
devices in their own dedicated apps: Apple Music app, Apple TV app, and Apple 
Devices app. If your PC doesn’t support these apps, you can continue to use 
iTunes for Windows.

Use the Apple Music app, Apple TV app, and Apple Devices app for Windows
Instead of iTunes, you can use three dedicated apps designed specifically for 
listening to music, watching content, and managing your Apple devices.

Apple Music app
Listen to and manage music from your iTunes library, including your iTunes 
Store purchases.
Learn more about the Apple Music app for 
Windows<https://support.apple.com/guide/music-windows/welcome>

Apple TV app
Watch and manage movies and TV shows from your iTunes library, including your 
iTunes Store purchases.
Learn more about the Apple TV app for 
Windows<https://support.apple.com/guide/tvapp-windows/welcome>

Apple Devices app
Manually update, back up, restore, and manage your iPhone or iPad. And manually 
sync content from your PC.
Learn more about the Apple Devices app for 
Windows<https://support.apple.com/guide/devices-windows/welcome>

Important things to know about the Apple Music app, Apple TV app, and Apple 
Devices app
·You need Windows 10 or later.
·You need to download all three apps: Apple Music app, Apple TV app, 
and Apple Devices app. If you download only one of these apps, iTunes will 
prompt you to download the other two apps to access your music and video 
content from your iTunes library.
·After you download these apps, you can use iTunes to access only your 
podcasts and audiobooks.
·The Apple Music app and Apple TV app read the contents of your iTunes 
library — so don't delete your iTunes library.
·    To access your iTunes Store purchases in the Apple Music app and Apple 
TV app, you need to authorize your computer with your Apple 
ID<https://support.apple.com/kb/HT201251>.
What happens to iTunes after you download the Apple Music app, Apple TV app, 
and Apple Devices app
After you download the Apple Music app, Apple TV app, and Apple Devices app, 
you won't see any of your music or video content in iTunes. And you can't use 
iTunes to manually sync and manage your iPhone or iPad. You can use iTunes to 
access only your podcasts and audiobooks.
To access your music and video content from your iTunes library, use the Apple 
Music app and Apple TV app. To manage your iPhone or iPad, use the Apple 
Devices app.
Download and update the Apple Music app, Apple TV app, and Apple Devices app
·Download the Apple Music app for Windows from the Microsoft 
Store<https://apps.microsoft.com/store/detail/apple-music-preview/9PFHDD62MXS1?hl=en-us=us=1>
·Download the Apple TV app for Windows from the Microsoft 
Store<https://apps.microsoft.com/store/detail/apple-tv-preview/9NM4T8B9JQZ1>
·Download the Apple Devices app for Windows from the Microsoft 
Store<https://apps.microsoft.com/store/detail/apple-devices-preview/9NP83LWLPZ9K>
After you download the Apple Music app, Apple TV app, and Apple Devices app, 
you can check for updates in the Microsoft Store.

If your PC doesn't support the Apple Music app, Apple TV app, and Apple Devices 
app
If your PC doesn't meet the system requirements for the Apple Music app, Apple 
TV app, and Apple Devices app, you can continue to use iTunes for Windows.
How to get iTunes for Windows
Download iTunes for Windows from the Microsoft 
Store<https://www.microsoft.com/p/itunes/9pb2mz1zmb1s?rtc=1=pivot:overviewtab>
If you need help downloading iTunes from the Microsoft Store or managing iTunes 
for Windows, contact Microsoft<https://support.apple.com/kb/HT201777>.
After you download iTunes for Windows, you can check for updates in the 
Microsoft Store.
Learn more about iTunes for Windows
Learn how to use iTunes for Windows in the User 
Guide<https://support.apple.com/guide/itunes/welcome/windows>

Published Date: February 07, 2024

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jessica 
Dail
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2024 1:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

Hi,
I tried to play my content earlier, but it told me I needed to authorize this 
computer, before I could do so.
I had already previously autho

Re: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

[Richard Turner]

Yes, the Apple Music interface is very accessible. It just screws things up if you are using something like WALTRPRO. And, at this point, there is nothing for syncing ringtones if you ever want to add a ringtone other than posibly using Garage Band and Ringtone Maker that Sieghard posted the other day. Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Feb 13, 2024, at 4:20 PM, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:







Just as an FYI, but Apple Music’s web interface is pretty accessible.
 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
On Behalf Of janet gross
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 5:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution


 
Hi Richard, 
 
Wow, what a mess that must have been!  
I was seriously considering using the new Appel Music App.    
So, thank you for the heads up.  
 
Janet  


From:
viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com>
On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 2:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution


 
I did not realize what a headache I was in for when I installed the Apple Music app.
After that, iTunes only shows Podcasts and audio books.  I have neither.
 
Further more, WALTRPro couldn’t see my iTunes library even though it was in the same place as always.
 
I got realy frustrated and uninstalled the Apple Music app, and Apple Devices app.  I had not yet installed the Apple TV app.
 
I then uninstalled iTunes.
I tried installing iTunes from Microsoft, but when I then ran WALTRPro it said the version of iTunes I have is not compatible I need to download the one from Apple, after uninstalling the Microsoft Store version.
 
I got that uninstalled, and allowed WALTRPro to download the Apple version.
 
I installed that, and miracle of miracles, my library is back in iTunes, with my music.  WALTRPro works again.  And until I am forced to change, this is the setup I am sticking with.  It is far, far easier to sync zip files of audio books
 to my iPhone or iPad to use with Voice Dream Reader using WALTRPro than with iTunes.  That is almost all I use WALTRPro for.  Sometimes to sync an eBook or another file to Voice Dream Reader.
 
Now that I have accomplished this, I’m tempted to wipe my phone to get rid of the iOS beta and start fresh and forget screwing with betas since that messes up doing backups, etc.
 
 
 
Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth
 
My web site: https://www.turner42.com/
 
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[Christopher Chaltain]

Just as an FYI, but Apple Music's web interface is pretty accessible.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 5:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

Hi Richard,

Wow, what a mess that must have been!
I was seriously considering using the new Appel Music App.
So, thank you for the heads up.

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 2:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

I did not realize what a headache I was in for when I installed the Apple Music 
app.
After that, iTunes only shows Podcasts and audio books.  I have neither.

Further more, WALTRPro couldn't see my iTunes library even though it was in the 
same place as always.

I got realy frustrated and uninstalled the Apple Music app, and Apple Devices 
app.  I had not yet installed the Apple TV app.

I then uninstalled iTunes.
I tried installing iTunes from Microsoft, but when I then ran WALTRPro it said 
the version of iTunes I have is not compatible I need to download the one from 
Apple, after uninstalling the Microsoft Store version.

I got that uninstalled, and allowed WALTRPro to download the Apple version.

I installed that, and miracle of miracles, my library is back in iTunes, with 
my music.  WALTRPro works again.  And until I am forced to change, this is the 
setup I am sticking with.  It is far, far easier to sync zip files of audio 
books to my iPhone or iPad to use with Voice Dream Reader using WALTRPro than 
with iTunes.  That is almost all I use WALTRPro for.  Sometimes to sync an 
eBook or another file to Voice Dream Reader.

Now that I have accomplished this, I'm tempted to wipe my phone to get rid of 
the iOS beta and start fresh and forget screwing with betas since that messes 
up doing backups, etc.



Richard, USA
"Grandma always told us, "Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it."
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

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RE: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

[janet gross]

Hi Richard,

Wow, what a mess that must have been!
I was seriously considering using the new Appel Music App.
So, thank you for the heads up.

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 2:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

I did not realize what a headache I was in for when I installed the Apple Music 
app.
After that, iTunes only shows Podcasts and audio books.  I have neither.

Further more, WALTRPro couldn't see my iTunes library even though it was in the 
same place as always.

I got realy frustrated and uninstalled the Apple Music app, and Apple Devices 
app.  I had not yet installed the Apple TV app.

I then uninstalled iTunes.
I tried installing iTunes from Microsoft, but when I then ran WALTRPro it said 
the version of iTunes I have is not compatible I need to download the one from 
Apple, after uninstalling the Microsoft Store version.

I got that uninstalled, and allowed WALTRPro to download the Apple version.

I installed that, and miracle of miracles, my library is back in iTunes, with 
my music.  WALTRPro works again.  And until I am forced to change, this is the 
setup I am sticking with.  It is far, far easier to sync zip files of audio 
books to my iPhone or iPad to use with Voice Dream Reader using WALTRPro than 
with iTunes.  That is almost all I use WALTRPro for.  Sometimes to sync an 
eBook or another file to Voice Dream Reader.

Now that I have accomplished this, I'm tempted to wipe my phone to get rid of 
the iOS beta and start fresh and forget screwing with betas since that messes 
up doing backups, etc.



Richard, USA
"Grandma always told us, "Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it."
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715),
JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400


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RE: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

[Richard Turner]

I’m glad my pain did some good !

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com/

 

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 

JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Malcolm 
Parfitt
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 3:28 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

 

I cannot thank you enough for sharing your experience with us, I was 
contemplating doing exactly wat you have done, you have saved me a lot of 
trouble, like you I’ll leave well alone.

Malcolm Parfitt





On 13 Feb 2024, at 8:35 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:



I did not realize what a headache I was in for when I installed the Apple Music 
app.

After that, iTunes only shows Podcasts and audio books.  I have neither.

 

Further more, WALTRPro couldn’t see my iTunes library even though it was in the 
same place as always.

 

I got realy frustrated and uninstalled the Apple Music app, and Apple Devices 
app.  I had not yet installed the Apple TV app.

 

I then uninstalled iTunes.

I tried installing iTunes from Microsoft, but when I then ran WALTRPro it said 
the version of iTunes I have is not compatible I need to download the one from 
Apple, after uninstalling the Microsoft Store version.

 

I got that uninstalled, and allowed WALTRPro to download the Apple version.

 

I installed that, and miracle of miracles, my library is back in iTunes, with 
my music.  WALTRPro works again.  And until I am forced to change, this is the 
setup I am sticking with.  It is far, far easier to sync zip files of audio 
books to my iPhone or iPad to use with Voice Dream Reader using WALTRPro than 
with iTunes.  That is almost all I use WALTRPro for.  Sometimes to sync an 
eBook or another file to Voice Dream Reader.

 

Now that I have accomplished this, I’m tempted to wipe my phone to get rid of 
the iOS beta and start fresh and forget screwing with betas since that messes 
up doing backups, etc.

 

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com/

 

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 

JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

 

 

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Re: WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

[Malcolm Parfitt]

I cannot thank you enough for sharing your experience with us, I was contemplating doing exactly wat you have done, you have saved me a lot of trouble, like you I’ll leave well alone.Malcolm ParfittOn 13 Feb 2024, at 8:35 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:I did not realize what a headache I was in for when I installed the Apple Music app.After that, iTunes only shows Podcasts and audio books.  I have neither. Further more, WALTRPro couldn’t see my iTunes library even though it was in the same place as always. I got realy frustrated and uninstalled the Apple Music app, and Apple Devices app.  I had not yet installed the Apple TV app. I then uninstalled iTunes.I tried installing iTunes from Microsoft, but when I then ran WALTRPro it said the version of iTunes I have is not compatible I need to download the one from Apple, after uninstalling the Microsoft Store version. I got that uninstalled, and allowed WALTRPro to download the Apple version. I installed that, and miracle of miracles, my library is back in iTunes, with my music.  WALTRPro works again.  And until I am forced to change, this is the setup I am sticking with.  It is far, far easier to sync zip files of audio books to my iPhone or iPad to use with Voice Dream Reader using WALTRPro than with iTunes.  That is almost all I use WALTRPro for.  Sometimes to sync an eBook or another file to Voice Dream Reader. Now that I have accomplished this, I’m tempted to wipe my phone to get rid of the iOS beta and start fresh and forget screwing with betas since that messes up doing backups, etc.   Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400  



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WALTRPro, Apple Music, and iTunes saga with resolution

[Richard Turner]

I did not realize what a headache I was in for when I installed the Apple
Music app.

After that, iTunes only shows Podcasts and audio books.  I have neither.

 

Further more, WALTRPro couldn't see my iTunes library even though it was in
the same place as always.

 

I got realy frustrated and uninstalled the Apple Music app, and Apple
Devices app.  I had not yet installed the Apple TV app.

 

I then uninstalled iTunes.

I tried installing iTunes from Microsoft, but when I then ran WALTRPro it
said the version of iTunes I have is not compatible I need to download the
one from Apple, after uninstalling the Microsoft Store version.

 

I got that uninstalled, and allowed WALTRPro to download the Apple version.

 

I installed that, and miracle of miracles, my library is back in iTunes,
with my music.  WALTRPro works again.  And until I am forced to change, this
is the setup I am sticking with.  It is far, far easier to sync zip files of
audio books to my iPhone or iPad to use with Voice Dream Reader using
WALTRPro than with iTunes.  That is almost all I use WALTRPro for.
Sometimes to sync an eBook or another file to Voice Dream Reader.

 

Now that I have accomplished this, I'm tempted to wipe my phone to get rid
of the iOS beta and start fresh and forget screwing with betas since that
messes up doing backups, etc.

 

 

 

Richard, USA

"Grandma always told us, "Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores
it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get
it."

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com/

 

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 

JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

 

 

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RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

[Richard Turner]

I still have iTunes installed and can play music with the Apple Music app.

Perhaps a call to Apple Accessibility?

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com/

 

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 

JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jessica 
Dail
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2024 1:18 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

 

Hi, 

I tried to play my content earlier, but it told me I needed to authorize this 
computer, before I could do so.

I had already previously authorized the computer with iTunes, which I still 
have installed. Can you have both installed simultaneously?

Best regards, 

Jessica Dail





On Feb 12, 2024, at 4:09 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net> > wrote:

 

I am not finding any shortcuts.  The ones the buttons speak do not work for me 
with Jaws.  I suspect they are meant for a Mac.  Like, alt+l, p for play.

I can only pause and play by tabbing to that button and hitting the spacebar.

 

I do not know if authorizing is in the Apple Music app, I have not found it.

Since I had already authorized the computer with iTunes, I suspect that is not 
necessary to do again.

 

I  cannot find a way to do a shortcut for the Apple Music app.  I could do that 
for the Apple Devices app.

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com/

 

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 

JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Jen .
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2024 10:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

 

Hi,

In the Apple Music app on the PC does anyone know what the jaws shortcut key is 
to play and pause a song? Also, how do you make shortcuts to the desktop when 
you are using the apps?






On Feb 12, 2024, at 12:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

I am talking about iTunes the program, it will not affect any music you have 
saved.

I also wish people would actually read an article if a link is provided because 
it clearly states in one of the articles that the new Apple Music app continues 
to use the same music library you have already.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 9:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

 

you can open 

C:\users\username\music\itunes media\

copy the music folder and paste it on another drive.

- Original Message - 

From: llump...@austin.rr.com <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 8:25 AM

Subject: RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

 

My entire music library, both hard-copy cds and apple music snags are in 
itunes. What am I to do if/when itunes goes away.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 8:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

 

So are we to assume that ring tones will fall under the heading of "files" I 
saw no specific mention of ring tones.

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 12:20 AM

Subject: RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

 

If you had read the two articles I provided links for, you would know the 
answer regarding Podcasts and Audio Books:

"For audiobooks and podcasts, Windows users still use the iTunes for Windows 
app."

and the person who said these apps for Windows 11 also didn't read the articles 
as he stated, but if he had he would have also read that these apps are 
available for both Windows 10 and 11. The article from the Verge also had links 
for the user guides for all three apps:

 

Apple has announced a major change for Windows users who use iTunes for Windows 
with

Re: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

[Jessica Dail]

Hi,
I tried to play my content earlier, but it told me I needed to authorize this 
computer, before I could do so.
I had already previously authorized the computer with iTunes, which I still 
have installed. Can you have both installed simultaneously?
Best regards,
Jessica Dail

On Feb 12, 2024, at 4:09 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:


I am not finding any shortcuts.  The ones the buttons speak do not work for me 
with Jaws.  I suspect they are meant for a Mac.  Like, alt+l, p for play.
I can only pause and play by tabbing to that button and hitting the spacebar.

I do not know if authorizing is in the Apple Music app, I have not found it.
Since I had already authorized the computer with iTunes, I suspect that is not 
necessary to do again.

I  cannot find a way to do a shortcut for the Apple Music app.  I could do that 
for the Apple Devices app.

HTH,


Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715),
JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2024 10:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

Hi,
In the Apple Music app on the PC does anyone know what the jaws shortcut key is 
to play and pause a song? Also, how do you make shortcuts to the desktop when 
you are using the apps?


On Feb 12, 2024, at 12:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote:

I am talking about iTunes the program, it will not affect any music you have 
saved.
I also wish people would actually read an article if a link is provided because 
it clearly states in one of the articles that the new Apple Music app continues 
to use the same music library you have already.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 9:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

you can open
C:\users\username\music\itunes media\
copy the music folder and paste it on another drive.
- Original Message -
From: llump...@austin.rr.com<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 8:25 AM
Subject: RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

My entire music library, both hard-copy cds and apple music snags are in 
itunes. What am I to do if/when itunes goes away.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 8:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

So are we to assume that ring tones will fall under the heading of "files" I 
saw no specific mention of ring tones.
- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 12:20 AM
Subject: RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

If you had read the two articles I provided links for, you would know the 
answer regarding Podcasts and Audio Books:
"For audiobooks and podcasts, Windows users still use the iTunes for Windows 
app."
and the person who said these apps for Windows 11 also didn't read the articles 
as he stated, but if he had he would have also read that these apps are 
available for both Windows 10 and 11. The article from the Verge also had links 
for the user guides for all three apps:

Apple has announced a major change for Windows users who use iTunes for Windows 
with an iPhone or to access Apple Music and Apple TV. For Windows 10 or later, 
Apple has released new “standalone experiences” for Apple Music and Apple TV as 
well as a new Devices management app to replace former functionality in iTunes 
for Windows:
•Apple 
Devices<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9NP83LWLPZ9K=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>:
 This is the app for iPhone users to manage their iPhones: perform backups, 
sync data, and install iOS updates.
•Read the Apple Devices User 
Guide<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://support.apple.com/guide/devices-windows/welcome/windows=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>.
•Apple 
Music<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9PFHDD62MXS1=1

RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

[Richard Turner]

I am not finding any shortcuts.  The ones the buttons speak do not work for me 
with Jaws.  I suspect they are meant for a Mac.  Like, alt+l, p for play.

I can only pause and play by tabbing to that button and hitting the spacebar.

 

I do not know if authorizing is in the Apple Music app, I have not found it.

Since I had already authorized the computer with iTunes, I suspect that is not 
necessary to do again.

 

I  cannot find a way to do a shortcut for the Apple Music app.  I could do that 
for the Apple Devices app.

 

HTH,

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com/

 

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 

JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2024 10:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

 

Hi,

In the Apple Music app on the PC does anyone know what the jaws shortcut key is 
to play and pause a song? Also, how do you make shortcuts to the desktop when 
you are using the apps?





On Feb 12, 2024, at 12:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > wrote:

 

I am talking about iTunes the program, it will not affect any music you have 
saved.

I also wish people would actually read an article if a link is provided because 
it clearly states in one of the articles that the new Apple Music app continues 
to use the same music library you have already.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 9:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

 

you can open 

C:\users\username\music\itunes media\

copy the music folder and paste it on another drive.

- Original Message - 

From: llump...@austin.rr.com <mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 8:25 AM

Subject: RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

 

My entire music library, both hard-copy cds and apple music snags are in 
itunes. What am I to do if/when itunes goes away.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Robert Doc Wright
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 8:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

 

So are we to assume that ring tones will fall under the heading of "files" I 
saw no specific mention of ring tones.

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 12:20 AM

Subject: RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

 

If you had read the two articles I provided links for, you would know the 
answer regarding Podcasts and Audio Books:

"For audiobooks and podcasts, Windows users still use the iTunes for Windows 
app."

and the person who said these apps for Windows 11 also didn't read the articles 
as he stated, but if he had he would have also read that these apps are 
available for both Windows 10 and 11. The article from the Verge also had links 
for the user guides for all three apps:

 

Apple has announced a major change for Windows users who use iTunes for Windows 
with an iPhone or to access Apple Music and Apple TV. For Windows 10 or later, 
Apple has released new “standalone experiences” for Apple Music and Apple TV as 
well as a new Devices management app to replace former functionality in iTunes 
for Windows:

* 
<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9NP83LWLPZ9K=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>
 Apple Devices: This is the app for iPhone users to manage their iPhones: 
perform backups, sync data, and install iOS updates.

* 
<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://support.apple.com/guide/devices-windows/welcome/windows=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>
 Read the Apple Devices User Guide.

* 
<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9PFHDD62MXS1=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>
 Apple Music: Access the Apple Music service and your personal library, as well

Re: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

[Jessica Dail]

Hi,
With this new setup, how would we go about syncing ringtones?
How do I tell the program to authorize my pc, so I can play my content, which 
I've purchased?

Best regards,
Jessica Dail

On Feb 12, 2024, at 1:13 PM, Jen .  wrote:


Hi,
In the Apple Music app on the PC does anyone know what the jaws shortcut key is 
to play and pause a song? Also, how do you make shortcuts to the desktop when 
you are using the apps?

On Feb 12, 2024, at 12:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


I am talking about iTunes the program, it will not affect any music you have 
saved.
I also wish people would actually read an article if a link is provided because 
it clearly states in one of the articles that the new Apple Music app continues 
to use the same music library you have already.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 9:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

you can open
C:\users\username\music\itunes media\
copy the music folder and paste it on another drive.
- Original Message -
From: llump...@austin.rr.com<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 8:25 AM
Subject: RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

My entire music library, both hard-copy cds and apple music snags are in 
itunes. What am I to do if/when itunes goes away.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 8:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

So are we to assume that ring tones will fall under the heading of "files" I 
saw no specific mention of ring tones.
- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 12:20 AM
Subject: RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

If you had read the two articles I provided links for, you would know the 
answer regarding Podcasts and Audio Books:
"For audiobooks and podcasts, Windows users still use the iTunes for Windows 
app."
and the person who said these apps for Windows 11 also didn't read the articles 
as he stated, but if he had he would have also read that these apps are 
available for both Windows 10 and 11. The article from the Verge also had links 
for the user guides for all three apps:

Apple has announced a major change for Windows users who use iTunes for Windows 
with an iPhone or to access Apple Music and Apple TV. For Windows 10 or later, 
Apple has released new “standalone experiences” for Apple Music and Apple TV as 
well as a new Devices management app to replace former functionality in iTunes 
for Windows:
•Apple 
Devices<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9NP83LWLPZ9K=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>:
 This is the app for iPhone users to manage their iPhones: perform backups, 
sync data, and install iOS updates.
•Read the Apple Devices User 
Guide<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://support.apple.com/guide/devices-windows/welcome/windows=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>.
•Apple 
Music<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9PFHDD62MXS1=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>:
 Access the Apple Music service and your personal library, as well as manage 
music on Apple Devices. Airplay support is included.
•Read the Apple Music User 
Guide<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://support.apple.com/guide/music-windows/welcome/windows=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>.
•Apple 
TV<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9NM4T8B9JQZ1=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>:
 Access the Apple TV+ service and your personal library. The app supports 4K 
playback, subscription services, and MLS Season Pass.
•Read the Apple TV User 
Guide<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://support.apple.com/guide/tvapp-windows/welcome/windows=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>.
For audiobooks and podcasts, Windows users still use the iTunes for Windows 
app. That app is also used if any of the new apps 

Re: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

[Jen .]

Hi,
In the Apple Music app on the PC does anyone know what the jaws shortcut key is 
to play and pause a song? Also, how do you make shortcuts to the desktop when 
you are using the apps?

On Feb 12, 2024, at 12:42 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


I am talking about iTunes the program, it will not affect any music you have 
saved.
I also wish people would actually read an article if a link is provided because 
it clearly states in one of the articles that the new Apple Music app continues 
to use the same music library you have already.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 9:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

you can open
C:\users\username\music\itunes media\
copy the music folder and paste it on another drive.
- Original Message -
From: llump...@austin.rr.com<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 8:25 AM
Subject: RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

My entire music library, both hard-copy cds and apple music snags are in 
itunes. What am I to do if/when itunes goes away.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 8:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

So are we to assume that ring tones will fall under the heading of "files" I 
saw no specific mention of ring tones.
- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 12:20 AM
Subject: RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

If you had read the two articles I provided links for, you would know the 
answer regarding Podcasts and Audio Books:
"For audiobooks and podcasts, Windows users still use the iTunes for Windows 
app."
and the person who said these apps for Windows 11 also didn't read the articles 
as he stated, but if he had he would have also read that these apps are 
available for both Windows 10 and 11. The article from the Verge also had links 
for the user guides for all three apps:

Apple has announced a major change for Windows users who use iTunes for Windows 
with an iPhone or to access Apple Music and Apple TV. For Windows 10 or later, 
Apple has released new “standalone experiences” for Apple Music and Apple TV as 
well as a new Devices management app to replace former functionality in iTunes 
for Windows:
•Apple 
Devices<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9NP83LWLPZ9K=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>:
 This is the app for iPhone users to manage their iPhones: perform backups, 
sync data, and install iOS updates.
•Read the Apple Devices User 
Guide<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://support.apple.com/guide/devices-windows/welcome/windows=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>.
•Apple 
Music<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9PFHDD62MXS1=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>:
 Access the Apple Music service and your personal library, as well as manage 
music on Apple Devices. Airplay support is included.
•Read the Apple Music User 
Guide<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://support.apple.com/guide/music-windows/welcome/windows=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>.
•Apple 
TV<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9NM4T8B9JQZ1=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>:
 Access the Apple TV+ service and your personal library. The app supports 4K 
playback, subscription services, and MLS Season Pass.
•Read the Apple TV User 
Guide<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://support.apple.com/guide/tvapp-windows/welcome/windows=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>.
For audiobooks and podcasts, Windows users still use the iTunes for Windows 
app. That app is also used if any of the new apps don’t run on your PC. Apple 
released iTunes for Windows on October 16, 2003, with iPod and iTunes Music 
Store support.
Apple has a support document with more information on the new 
apps<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X15

RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Ringtones are the only item not yet covered in the Apple devices app which is 
something I pointed out. And of course Podcasts and Audio Books and I assume 
eBooks from Apple, but that is also in the articles.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 6:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

So are we to assume that ring tones will fall under the heading of "files" I 
saw no specific mention of ring tones.
- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 12:20 AM
Subject: RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

If you had read the two articles I provided links for, you would know the 
answer regarding Podcasts and Audio Books:
"For audiobooks and podcasts, Windows users still use the iTunes for Windows 
app."
and the person who said these apps for Windows 11 also didn't read the articles 
as he stated, but if he had he would have also read that these apps are 
available for both Windows 10 and 11. The article from the Verge also had links 
for the user guides for all three apps:

Apple has announced a major change for Windows users who use iTunes for Windows 
with an iPhone or to access Apple Music and Apple TV. For Windows 10 or later, 
Apple has released new “standalone experiences” for Apple Music and Apple TV as 
well as a new Devices management app to replace former functionality in iTunes 
for Windows:
•Apple 
Devices<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9NP83LWLPZ9K=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>:
 This is the app for iPhone users to manage their iPhones: perform backups, 
sync data, and install iOS updates.
•Read the Apple Devices User 
Guide<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://support.apple.com/guide/devices-windows/welcome/windows=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>.
•Apple 
Music<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9PFHDD62MXS1=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>:
 Access the Apple Music service and your personal library, as well as manage 
music on Apple Devices. Airplay support is included.
•Read the Apple Music User 
Guide<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://support.apple.com/guide/music-windows/welcome/windows=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>.
•Apple 
TV<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9NM4T8B9JQZ1=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>:
 Access the Apple TV+ service and your personal library. The app supports 4K 
playback, subscription services, and MLS Season Pass.
•Read the Apple TV User 
Guide<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://support.apple.com/guide/tvapp-windows/welcome/windows=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>.
For audiobooks and podcasts, Windows users still use the iTunes for Windows 
app. That app is also used if any of the new apps don’t run on your PC. Apple 
released iTunes for Windows on October 16, 2003, with iPod and iTunes Music 
Store support.
Apple has a support document with more information on the new 
apps<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210384#619=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>.

Apple has also released a redesigned iCloud for 
Windows<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/apps/9PKTQ5699M62=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>
 app. The new app makes it cleaner to see what apps are using iCloud, gauge how 
much iCloud+ storage is being used, and more.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2024 4:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

What about podcasts?  I keep seeing references to tv & music but not to 
podcasts.  Will the current version of ITunes support podcasts on a Windows 
computer?

Thanks,
Sherry Wells

From: 'john riehl' via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2024 6:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Having said what I did just a minute ago, it is of course very risky to have 
all your music in iTunes Media and not to have any backups just as it is risky 
not to have backups of all your other data whether documents, pictures or music.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
llump...@austin.rr.com
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 7:26 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

My entire music library, both hard-copy cds and apple music snags are in 
itunes. What am I to do if/when itunes goes away.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 8:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

So are we to assume that ring tones will fall under the heading of "files" I 
saw no specific mention of ring tones.
- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 12:20 AM
Subject: RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

If you had read the two articles I provided links for, you would know the 
answer regarding Podcasts and Audio Books:
"For audiobooks and podcasts, Windows users still use the iTunes for Windows 
app."
and the person who said these apps for Windows 11 also didn't read the articles 
as he stated, but if he had he would have also read that these apps are 
available for both Windows 10 and 11. The article from the Verge also had links 
for the user guides for all three apps:

Apple has announced a major change for Windows users who use iTunes for Windows 
with an iPhone or to access Apple Music and Apple TV. For Windows 10 or later, 
Apple has released new “standalone experiences” for Apple Music and Apple TV as 
well as a new Devices management app to replace former functionality in iTunes 
for Windows:
•Apple 
Devices<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9NP83LWLPZ9K=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>:
 This is the app for iPhone users to manage their iPhones: perform backups, 
sync data, and install iOS updates.
•Read the Apple Devices User 
Guide<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://support.apple.com/guide/devices-windows/welcome/windows=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>.
•Apple 
Music<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9PFHDD62MXS1=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>:
 Access the Apple Music service and your personal library, as well as manage 
music on Apple Devices. Airplay support is included.
•Read the Apple Music User 
Guide<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://support.apple.com/guide/music-windows/welcome/windows=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>.
•Apple 
TV<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9NM4T8B9JQZ1=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>:
 Access the Apple TV+ service and your personal library. The app supports 4K 
playback, subscription services, and MLS Season Pass.
•Read the Apple TV User 
Guide<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://support.apple.com/guide/tvapp-windows/welcome/windows=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>.
For audiobooks and podcasts, Windows users still use the iTunes for Windows 
app. That app is also used if any of the new apps don’t run on your PC. Apple 
released iTunes for Windows on October 16, 2003, with iPod and iTunes Music 
Store support.
Apple has a support document with more information on the new 
apps<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210384#619=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>.

Apple has also released a redesigned iCloud for 
Windows<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/apps/9PKTQ5699M62=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>
 app. The new app makes it cleaner to see what apps are using iCloud, gauge how 
much iCloud+ storage is being used, and more.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:v

RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I am talking about iTunes the program, it will not affect any music you have 
saved.
I also wish people would actually read an article if a link is provided because 
it clearly states in one of the articles that the new Apple Music app continues 
to use the same music library you have already.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 9:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

you can open
C:\users\username\music\itunes media\
copy the music folder and paste it on another drive.
- Original Message -
From: llump...@austin.rr.com<mailto:llump...@austin.rr.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 8:25 AM
Subject: RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

My entire music library, both hard-copy cds and apple music snags are in 
itunes. What am I to do if/when itunes goes away.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 8:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

So are we to assume that ring tones will fall under the heading of "files" I 
saw no specific mention of ring tones.
- Original Message -
From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 12:20 AM
Subject: RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

If you had read the two articles I provided links for, you would know the 
answer regarding Podcasts and Audio Books:
"For audiobooks and podcasts, Windows users still use the iTunes for Windows 
app."
and the person who said these apps for Windows 11 also didn't read the articles 
as he stated, but if he had he would have also read that these apps are 
available for both Windows 10 and 11. The article from the Verge also had links 
for the user guides for all three apps:

Apple has announced a major change for Windows users who use iTunes for Windows 
with an iPhone or to access Apple Music and Apple TV. For Windows 10 or later, 
Apple has released new “standalone experiences” for Apple Music and Apple TV as 
well as a new Devices management app to replace former functionality in iTunes 
for Windows:
•Apple 
Devices<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9NP83LWLPZ9K=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>:
 This is the app for iPhone users to manage their iPhones: perform backups, 
sync data, and install iOS updates.
•Read the Apple Devices User 
Guide<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://support.apple.com/guide/devices-windows/welcome/windows=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>.
•Apple 
Music<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9PFHDD62MXS1=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>:
 Access the Apple Music service and your personal library, as well as manage 
music on Apple Devices. Airplay support is included.
•Read the Apple Music User 
Guide<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://support.apple.com/guide/music-windows/welcome/windows=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>.
•Apple 
TV<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9NM4T8B9JQZ1=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>:
 Access the Apple TV+ service and your personal library. The app supports 4K 
playback, subscription services, and MLS Season Pass.
•Read the Apple TV User 
Guide<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://support.apple.com/guide/tvapp-windows/welcome/windows=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>.
For audiobooks and podcasts, Windows users still use the iTunes for Windows 
app. That app is also used if any of the new apps don’t run on your PC. Apple 
released iTunes for Windows on October 16, 2003, with iPod and iTunes Music 
Store support.
Apple has a support document with more information on the new 
apps<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210384#619=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>.

Apple has also released a redesigned iCloud for 
Windows<https://go.redirecti

Re: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

[Jonathan Cohn]

The services of iTunes are not going away, just the one single application to 
handle video, music, movie purchases, iPhone backup/restore. 
All your music  from iTunes should be available in the Apple Music app Though I 
have never used Apple products on a Windows system this is what Apple did for 
Macintosh a few years ago.


> On Feb 11, 2024, at 10:25 AM, llump...@austin.rr.com wrote:
> 
> My entire music library, both hard-copy cds and apple music snags are in 
> itunes. What am I to do if/when itunes goes away.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
> Robert Doc Wright
> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 8:47 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: Re: More indications iTunes may soon be gone
>  
> So are we to assume that ring tones will fall under the heading of "files" I 
> saw no specific mention of ring tones.
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 12:20 AM
>> Subject: RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone
>>  
>> If you had read the two articles I provided links for, you would know the 
>> answer regarding Podcasts and Audio Books:
>> "For audiobooks and podcasts, Windows users still use the iTunes for Windows 
>> app."
>> and the person who said these apps for Windows 11 also didn't read the 
>> articles as he stated, but if he had he would have also read that these apps 
>> are available for both Windows 10 and 11. The article from the Verge also 
>> had links for the user guides for all three apps:
>>  
>> Apple has announced a major change for Windows users who use iTunes for 
>> Windows with an iPhone or to access Apple Music and Apple TV. For Windows 10 
>> or later, Apple has released new “standalone experiences” for Apple Music 
>> and Apple TV as well as a new Devices management app to replace former 
>> functionality in iTunes for Windows:
>> 
>> ·Apple Devices 
>> <https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9NP83LWLPZ9K=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>:
>>  This is the app for iPhone users to manage their iPhones: perform backups, 
>> sync data, and install iOS updates.
>> ·Read the Apple Devices User Guide 
>> <https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://support.apple.com/guide/devices-windows/welcome/windows=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>.
>> ·Apple Music 
>> <https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9PFHDD62MXS1=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>:
>>  Access the Apple Music service and your personal library, as well as manage 
>> music on Apple Devices. Airplay support is included.
>> ·Read the Apple Music User Guide 
>> <https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://support.apple.com/guide/music-windows/welcome/windows=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>.
>> ·Apple TV 
>> <https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9NM4T8B9JQZ1=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>:
>>  Access the Apple TV+ service and your personal library. The app supports 4K 
>> playback, subscription services, and MLS Season Pass.
>> ·Read the Apple TV User Guide 
>> <https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://support.apple.com/guide/tvapp-windows/welcome/windows=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>.
>> For audiobooks and podcasts, Windows users still use the iTunes for Windows 
>> app. That app is also used if any of the new apps don’t run on your PC. 
>> Apple released iTunes for Windows on October 16, 2003, with iPod and iTunes 
>> Music Store support.
>> 
>> Apple has a support document with more information on the new apps 
>> <https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210384#619=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>.
>> 
>>  
>> A

RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

[llumpkin]

My entire music library, both hard-copy cds and apple music snags are in 
itunes. What am I to do if/when itunes goes away.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 8:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

 

So are we to assume that ring tones will fall under the heading of "files" I 
saw no specific mention of ring tones.

- Original Message - 

From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2024 12:20 AM

Subject: RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

 

If you had read the two articles I provided links for, you would know the 
answer regarding Podcasts and Audio Books:

"For audiobooks and podcasts, Windows users still use the iTunes for Windows 
app."

and the person who said these apps for Windows 11 also didn't read the articles 
as he stated, but if he had he would have also read that these apps are 
available for both Windows 10 and 11. The article from the Verge also had links 
for the user guides for all three apps:

 

Apple has announced a major change for Windows users who use iTunes for Windows 
with an iPhone or to access Apple Music and Apple TV. For Windows 10 or later, 
Apple has released new “standalone experiences” for Apple Music and Apple TV as 
well as a new Devices management app to replace former functionality in iTunes 
for Windows:

* 
<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9NP83LWLPZ9K=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>
 Apple Devices: This is the app for iPhone users to manage their iPhones: 
perform backups, sync data, and install iOS updates.

* 
<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://support.apple.com/guide/devices-windows/welcome/windows=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>
 Read the Apple Devices User Guide.

* 
<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9PFHDD62MXS1=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>
 Apple Music: Access the Apple Music service and your personal library, as well 
as manage music on Apple Devices. Airplay support is included.

* 
<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://support.apple.com/guide/music-windows/welcome/windows=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>
 Read the Apple Music User Guide.

* 
<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9NM4T8B9JQZ1=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>
 Apple TV: Access the Apple TV+ service and your personal library. The app 
supports 4K playback, subscription services, and MLS Season Pass.

* 
<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://support.apple.com/guide/tvapp-windows/welcome/windows=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>
 Read the Apple TV User Guide.

For audiobooks and podcasts, Windows users still use the iTunes for Windows 
app. That app is also used if any of the new apps don’t run on your PC. Apple 
released iTunes for Windows on October 16, 2003, with iPod and iTunes Music 
Store support.

Apple has a  
<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210384#619=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>
 support document with more information on the new apps.

 

Apple has also released a  
<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/apps/9PKTQ5699M62=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>
 redesigned iCloud for Windows app. The new app makes it cleaner to see what 
apps are using iCloud, gauge how much iCloud+ storage is being used, and more.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com <mailto:sherrywells1...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2024 4:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

 

What about podcasts?  I keep seeing references to tv & music but not to 
podcasts.  Will the current version of ITunes support podcasts on a Windows 
computer?

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

 

From: 'john 

RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If you had read the two articles I provided links for, you would know the 
answer regarding Podcasts and Audio Books:
"For audiobooks and podcasts, Windows users still use the iTunes for Windows 
app."
and the person who said these apps for Windows 11 also didn't read the articles 
as he stated, but if he had he would have also read that these apps are 
available for both Windows 10 and 11. The article from the Verge also had links 
for the user guides for all three apps:

Apple has announced a major change for Windows users who use iTunes for Windows 
with an iPhone or to access Apple Music and Apple TV. For Windows 10 or later, 
Apple has released new “standalone experiences” for Apple Music and Apple TV as 
well as a new Devices management app to replace former functionality in iTunes 
for Windows:
·Apple 
Devices<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9NP83LWLPZ9K=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>:
 This is the app for iPhone users to manage their iPhones: perform backups, 
sync data, and install iOS updates.
·Read the Apple Devices User 
Guide<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://support.apple.com/guide/devices-windows/welcome/windows=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>.
·Apple 
Music<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9PFHDD62MXS1=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>:
 Access the Apple Music service and your personal library, as well as manage 
music on Apple Devices. Airplay support is included.
·Read the Apple Music User 
Guide<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://support.apple.com/guide/music-windows/welcome/windows=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>.
·Apple 
TV<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://apps.microsoft.com/detail/9NM4T8B9JQZ1=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>:
 Access the Apple TV+ service and your personal library. The app supports 4K 
playback, subscription services, and MLS Season Pass.
·Read the Apple TV User 
Guide<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://support.apple.com/guide/tvapp-windows/welcome/windows=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>.
For audiobooks and podcasts, Windows users still use the iTunes for Windows 
app. That app is also used if any of the new apps don’t run on your PC. Apple 
released iTunes for Windows on October 16, 2003, with iPod and iTunes Music 
Store support.
Apple has a support document with more information on the new 
apps<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210384#619=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>.

Apple has also released a redesigned iCloud for 
Windows<https://go.redirectingat.com/?id=111346X1569486=https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/apps/9PKTQ5699M62=1-1-2230075-1-0-0=https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>
 app. The new app makes it cleaner to see what apps are using iCloud, gauge how 
much iCloud+ storage is being used, and more.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2024 4:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

What about podcasts?  I keep seeing references to tv & music but not to 
podcasts.  Will the current version of ITunes support podcasts on a Windows 
computer?

Thanks,
Sherry Wells

From: 'john riehl' via VIPhone 
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2024 6:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

They are for both windows-11 and 10.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2024 6:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

Those apps are for windows 11, correct? I saw that in the headline of an 
article that I didn’t bother to read. I don’t have 11 and can’t get it on my 
current windows machine, so I’m thinking I will still have iTunes. Fortunately 
I don’t have to use it very much.
Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 10, 2024, at 10:32 AM, Sieghard Weitzel 
mailto:siegh...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Windows users can now download full versions of the

RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

[Richard Turner]

Good question.

I’ll write Apple Accessibility.

You may want to do likewise.

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com/

 

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 

JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
sherrywells1...@gmail.com
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2024 4:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

 

What about podcasts?  I keep seeing references to tv & music but not to 
podcasts.  Will the current version of ITunes support podcasts on a Windows 
computer?

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

 

From: 'john riehl' via VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > 
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2024 6:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

 

They are for both windows-11 and 10. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2024 6:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

 

Those apps are for windows 11, correct? I saw that in the headline of an 
article that I didn’t bother to read. I don’t have 11 and can’t get it on my 
current windows machine, so I’m thinking I will still have iTunes. Fortunately 
I don’t have to use it very much.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Feb 10, 2024, at 10:32 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Windows users can now download full versions of the Apple Music and Apple TV 
applications, as well as a new Apple Devices app. They make the venerable 
iTunes app almost obsolete. Read more:

 
<https://www.cultofmac.com/845922/itunes-windows-apple-tv-apple-music-leave-beta/>
 iTunes on its last gasp as Apple TV and Apple Music for Windows leave beta - 
Cult of Mac

 

iTunes for Windows nears End Of Life with launch of Apple Music, TV standalone 
experiences - The Verge 
<https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>
 

 

 

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[sherrywells1157]

What about podcasts?  I keep seeing references to tv & music but not to 
podcasts.  Will the current version of ITunes support podcasts on a Windows 
computer?

 

Thanks,

Sherry Wells

 

From: 'john riehl' via VIPhone  
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2024 6:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

 

They are for both windows-11 and 10. 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2024 6:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

 

Those apps are for windows 11, correct? I saw that in the headline of an 
article that I didn’t bother to read. I don’t have 11 and can’t get it on my 
current windows machine, so I’m thinking I will still have iTunes. Fortunately 
I don’t have to use it very much.

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Feb 10, 2024, at 10:32 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Windows users can now download full versions of the Apple Music and Apple TV 
applications, as well as a new Apple Devices app. They make the venerable 
iTunes app almost obsolete. Read more:

 
<https://www.cultofmac.com/845922/itunes-windows-apple-tv-apple-music-leave-beta/>
 iTunes on its last gasp as Apple TV and Apple Music for Windows leave beta - 
Cult of Mac

 

iTunes for Windows nears End Of Life with launch of Apple Music, TV standalone 
experiences - The Verge 
<https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>
 

 

 

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RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

['john riehl' via VIPhone]

They are for both windows-11 and 10. 

 

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Those apps are for windows 11, correct? I saw that in the headline of an 
article that I didn’t bother to read. I don’t have 11 and can’t get it on my 
current windows machine, so I’m thinking I will still have iTunes. Fortunately 
I don’t have to use it very much.

Sent from my iPhone





On Feb 10, 2024, at 10:32 AM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Windows users can now download full versions of the Apple Music and Apple TV 
applications, as well as a new Apple Devices app. They make the venerable 
iTunes app almost obsolete. Read more:

 
<https://www.cultofmac.com/845922/itunes-windows-apple-tv-apple-music-leave-beta/>
 iTunes on its last gasp as Apple TV and Apple Music for Windows leave beta - 
Cult of Mac

 

iTunes for Windows nears End Of Life with launch of Apple Music, TV standalone 
experiences - The Verge 
<https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>
 

 

 

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Re: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

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Those apps are for windows 11, correct? I saw that in the headline of an article that I didn’t bother to read. I don’t have 11 and can’t get it on my current windows machine, so I’m thinking I will still have iTunes. Fortunately I don’t have to use it very much.Sent from my iPhoneOn Feb 10, 2024, at 10:32 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:








Windows users can now download full versions of the Apple Music and Apple TV applications, as well as a new Apple Devices app. They make the venerable iTunes app almost obsolete. Read more:
iTunes on its last gasp as Apple TV and Apple Music for Windows leave beta
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RE: Links to the Apple apps for Windows Users Guides that are intended to replace iTunes

[Richard Turner]

Apple has recently released three apps for Windows for the Apple iPad, iPhone, 
and iPod Touch which are intended to replace iTunes.  Below are links to each 
apps user guide.  You can find the apps in the Microsoft store.

Apple Devices for Windows User Guide

https://support.apple.com/guide/devices-windows/welcome/windows

 

Apple Music for Windows User Guide

https://support.apple.com/guide/music-windows/welcome/windows

Apple TV Plus for Windows User Guide

https://support.apple.com/guide/tvapp-windows/welcome/windows

 

HTH,Richard, USA

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-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com/

 

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 

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Links to the Apple apps for Windows Users Guides that are intended to replace iTunes

[Richard Turner]

 

 

Richard, USA

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it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get
it."

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My web site:   https://www.turner42.com/

 

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 

JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

 

 

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RE: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

[Richard Turner]

Sieghard,

I tried looking in the Microsoft store yesterday after reading the article I 
posted about the full versions being out.

I could not find the one for music.

There was one for Apple TV Plus, and I think the one for “Apple devices”, but 
no music.

Do you happen to have its exact name?  I’ll try again.

I figure that is the way things are going, finally, so I may as well check them 
out.

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA

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on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com/> https://www.turner42.com/

 

Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 

JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, February 10, 2024 10:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: More indications iTunes may soon be gone

 

Windows users can now download full versions of the Apple Music and Apple TV 
applications, as well as a new Apple Devices app. They make the venerable 
iTunes app almost obsolete. Read more:

 
<https://www.cultofmac.com/845922/itunes-windows-apple-tv-apple-music-leave-beta/>
 iTunes on its last gasp as Apple TV and Apple Music for Windows leave beta - 
Cult of Mac

 

iTunes for Windows nears End Of Life with launch of Apple Music, TV standalone 
experiences - The Verge 
<https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>
 

 

 

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More indications iTunes may soon be gone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Windows users can now download full versions of the Apple Music and Apple TV 
applications, as well as a new Apple Devices app. They make the venerable 
iTunes app almost obsolete. Read more:

iTunes on its last gasp as Apple TV and Apple Music for Windows leave beta - 
Cult of 
Mac<https://www.cultofmac.com/845922/itunes-windows-apple-tv-apple-music-leave-beta/>


iTunes for Windows nears End Of Life with launch of Apple Music, TV standalone 
experiences - The 
Verge<https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>



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More indications iTunes may soon be gone

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Windows users can now download full versions of the Apple Music and Apple TV 
applications, as well as a new Apple Devices app. They make the venerable 
iTunes app almost obsolete. Read more:

iTunes on its last gasp as Apple TV and Apple Music for Windows leave beta - 
Cult of 
Mac<https://www.cultofmac.com/845922/itunes-windows-apple-tv-apple-music-leave-beta/>


iTunes for Windows nears End Of Life with launch of Apple Music, TV standalone 
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Verge<https://www.macworld.com/article/2230075/itunes-windows-end-of-life-music-tv-devices-apps.html>



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RE: Having to repeatedly authorize my computer in itunes

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I believe this may be done with the Apple Devices app, but while I have 
downloaded it, I have had no time yet to .hook my iPhone up to the laptop and 
see what I can do with it and how accessible it is.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robin 
Frost
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2023 7:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Having to repeatedly authorize my computer in itunes

Hi,

With this having been said, once iTunes goes away forever might anyone know how 
then one might sync ringtones from the Windows side of things?

Thanks so kindly and apologies if this was already covered and I missed it.

Take good care,

Robin


On 11/26/2023 12:26 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> But as a word of caution, if you rely on iTunes for backups or transferring 
> files then don't install the Apple Music app because if you do iTunes won't 
> work at all any more until you uninstall Apple Music.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
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> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Having to repeatedly authorize my computer in itunes
>
> You want the version of iTunes downloaded from apple, not the one from 
> Microsoft.  It wasn't until I got the version of iTunes from apple, that I 
> was able to use iTunes successfully on my windows11 machine.
>
> On 11/25/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> I would try both Microsoft and Apple Accessibility.
>> Which version of iTunes are you using, also, is it the desktop 
>> version downloaded from Apple or the one from the Microsoft Store?
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of llump...@austin.rr.com
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>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Having to repeatedly authorize my computer in itunes
>>
>> My computer is authorized but when I play songs, the authorize 
>> dialogue appears repeatedly. I have to authorize the computer for 
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Re: Having to repeatedly authorize my computer in itunes

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

With this having been said, once iTunes goes away forever might anyone 
know how then one might sync ringtones from the Windows side of things?


Thanks so kindly and apologies if this was already covered and I missed it.

Take good care,

Robin


On 11/26/2023 12:26 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

But as a word of caution, if you rely on iTunes for backups or transferring 
files then don't install the Apple Music app because if you do iTunes won't 
work at all any more until you uninstall Apple Music.

-Original Message-
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Having to repeatedly authorize my computer in itunes

You want the version of iTunes downloaded from apple, not the one from 
Microsoft.  It wasn't until I got the version of iTunes from apple, that I was 
able to use iTunes successfully on my windows11 machine.

On 11/25/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

I would try both Microsoft and Apple Accessibility.
Which version of iTunes are you using, also, is it the desktop version
downloaded from Apple or the one from the Microsoft Store?

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llump...@austin.rr.com
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2023 11:33 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Having to repeatedly authorize my computer in itunes

My computer is authorized but when I play songs, the authorize
dialogue appears repeatedly. I have to authorize the computer for each
song over and over again. Why?

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RE: Having to repeatedly authorize my computer in itunes

[Sieghard Weitzel]

But as a word of caution, if you rely on iTunes for backups or transferring 
files then don't install the Apple Music app because if you do iTunes won't 
work at all any more until you uninstall Apple Music.

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You want the version of iTunes downloaded from apple, not the one from 
Microsoft.  It wasn't until I got the version of iTunes from apple, that I was 
able to use iTunes successfully on my windows11 machine.

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> I would try both Microsoft and Apple Accessibility.
> Which version of iTunes are you using, also, is it the desktop version 
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RE: Having to repeatedly authorize my computer in itunes

[Sieghard Weitzel]

And I heard from at least one or two people over the last couple of years that 
the Microsoft Store version works better.
There are also the new Apple apps, Apple Music, Apple TV and Apple Devices 
which ultimately will replace iTunes.
I don't really use iTunes on the computer any more, but just out of curiosity I 
installed the Apple Music app and it works quite well.

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You want the version of iTunes downloaded from apple, not the one from 
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able to use iTunes successfully on my windows11 machine.

On 11/25/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> I would try both Microsoft and Apple Accessibility.
> Which version of iTunes are you using, also, is it the desktop version 
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>
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RE: Having to repeatedly authorize my computer in itunes

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Putting "What is Ninite" into Google gives you the following as the very first 
search tresult:

Ninite - Install or Update Multiple Apps at Once
https://ninite.com
The easiest, fastest way to update or install software. Ninite downloads and 
installs programs automatically in the background.
How Ninite Works | Ninite Help
Ninite automatically downloads and installs the proper 64-bit or ...

If that isn't enoough to give you the idea behind it, click on the link and it 
tells you all about it.


Best regards,
Sieghard

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What is Ninite?


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Try a different version of iTunes.  Grab the one from Ninite.  You should only 
have to authorize i"Tunes once and you should be good to go.

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RE: Having to repeatedly authorize my computer in itunes

[llumpkin]

Itunes Version 12.13.0.9
It's the desk top version using windows 11 latest.




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I would try both Microsoft and Apple Accessibility.
Which version of iTunes are you using, also, is it the desktop version 
downloaded from Apple or the one from the Microsoft Store?

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My computer is authorized but when I play songs, the authorize dialogue appears 
repeatedly. I have to authorize the computer for each song over and over again. 
Why?

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RE: Having to repeatedly authorize my computer in itunes

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What is Ninite?


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Try a different version of iTunes.  Grab the one from Ninite.  You should only 
have to authorize i"Tunes once and you should be good to go.

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Re: Having to repeatedly authorize my computer in itunes

[Joshua Hendrickson]

You want the version of iTunes downloaded from apple, not the one from
Microsoft.  It wasn't until I got the version of iTunes from apple,
that I was able to use iTunes successfully on my windows11 machine.

On 11/25/23, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
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> Which version of iTunes are you using, also, is it the desktop version
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>
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> Subject: Having to repeatedly authorize my computer in itunes
>
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RE: Having to repeatedly authorize my computer in itunes

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I would try both Microsoft and Apple Accessibility.
Which version of iTunes are you using, also, is it the desktop version 
downloaded from Apple or the one from the Microsoft Store?

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My computer is authorized but when I play songs, the authorize dialogue appears 
repeatedly. I have to authorize the computer for each song over and over again. 
Why?

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Re: Having to repeatedly authorize my computer in itunes

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Try a different version of iTunes.  Grab the one from Ninite.  You
should only have to authorize i"Tunes once and you should be good to
go.

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Having to repeatedly authorize my computer in itunes

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My computer is authorized but when I play songs, the authorize dialogue
appears repeatedly. I have to authorize the computer for each song over and
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music won't play in my itunes playlists and I know them to be present

[llumpkin]

I'm having the following issue. Songs won't play in many of my playlists and
I have to start the shuffle process again. When I go to the playlist
manually within itunes, The affected songs error as not found but when I
click them again, they play. I can then play them normally but I have to do
this one by one in a playlist with hundreds of tracks. Is there any way to
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iTunes Version 12.13.0.9 just showed up

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Re: advice for copying book on audio CD to my phone via iTunes

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I wouldn't touch windows media player.  I haven't used that program in
years.  I used to use express burn to burn CD'S to the computer.

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> Joshua,
> Would you use Windows Media Player to put in on the computer first?  I can
> give this a try today. It's been several years since I've attempted to do
> anything with burning CDs.
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>
> I'd first recommend that you burn your CD to the computer.  Then you'll want
> to zip up that newly burned CD then, you can use iTunes to put that cd on
> your iPhone.
>
> On 9/3/23, R Van Lant  wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I have a book of prayers on audio CD.  I'm thinking I'd like to use
>> iTunes on my Windows laptop to move a copy of it to my phone for
>> easier access.  I have never used iTuens. I've read instructions for
>> using iTunes to copy a music CD.  Is there any advice or best
>> practices for doing this with an audio book?  Is it as simple as
>> following the steps for a music CD to load each CD in sequence into
>> iTunes?  I'm not sure how the files will be named and if they'd land in
>> order.
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>> TIAA,
>> Robin
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RE: advice for copying book on audio CD to my phone via iTunes

[R Van Lant]

Joshua,
Would you use Windows Media Player to put in on the computer first?  I can give 
this a try today. It's been several years since I've attempted to do anything 
with burning CDs.



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I'd first recommend that you burn your CD to the computer.  Then you'll want to 
zip up that newly burned CD then, you can use iTunes to put that cd on your 
iPhone.

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> I have a book of prayers on audio CD.  I'm thinking I'd like to use 
> iTunes on my Windows laptop to move a copy of it to my phone for 
> easier access.  I have never used iTuens. I've read instructions for 
> using iTunes to copy a music CD.  Is there any advice or best 
> practices for doing this with an audio book?  Is it as simple as 
> following the steps for a music CD to load each CD in sequence into 
> iTunes?  I'm not sure how the files will be named and if they'd land in order.
>
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Re: advice for copying book on audio CD to my phone via iTunes

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I'd first recommend that you burn your CD to the computer.  Then
you'll want to zip up that newly burned CD then, you can use iTunes to
put that cd on your iPhone.

On 9/3/23, R Van Lant  wrote:
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> on my Windows laptop to move a copy of it to my phone for easier access.  I
> have never used iTuens. I've read instructions for using iTunes to copy a
> music CD.  Is there any advice or best practices for doing this with an
> audio book?  Is it as simple as following the steps for a music CD to load
> each CD in sequence into iTunes?  I'm not sure how the files will be named
> and if they'd land in order.
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Re: advice for copying book on audio CD to my phone via iTunes

[Richard Turner]

Well, what it will be named is the biggest headache too often when importing a cd into iTunes. I've had both music and audio books that ended up in different folders because the tagging for each track were not consistent. I've learned to put the cd in my drive, look through how it is named listening especially for the aartist and genre not to mention the track titles and the album title. You can edit the information, but it is rather tedious. Do that with each disc before you actually import them. You can be sure they will be together and in the right order if you are thorough and careful. Of course, it might be perfectly tagged from the outset, but I wouldn't count on that. Also, I do not know if you can 'import it as a book or if you have to import it into the music library, and then go back later and change the format  to audio book which will be m4b and would be played by the Apple books app. You may want to call Apple accessibility about this, 877-204-3930.If you do not change the format to audio book, it will show up in the music library. Richard, USA ——"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley(Sent from my iPhone)On Sep 3, 2023, at 4:24 PM, R Van Lant  wrote:







Hi,
I have a book of prayers on audio CD.  I’m thinking I’d like to use iTunes on my Windows laptop to move a copy of it to my phone for easier access.  I have never used iTuens. I’ve read instructions for using iTunes to copy a music CD. 
 Is there any advice or best practices for doing this with an audio book?  Is it as simple as following the steps for a music CD to load each CD in sequence into iTunes?  I’m not sure how the files will be named and if they’d land in order.   
 
TIAA,
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advice for copying book on audio CD to my phone via iTunes

[R Van Lant]

Hi,
I have a book of prayers on audio CD.  I'm thinking I'd like to use iTunes on 
my Windows laptop to move a copy of it to my phone for easier access.  I have 
never used iTuens. I've read instructions for using iTunes to copy a music CD.  
Is there any advice or best practices for doing this with an audio book?  Is it 
as simple as following the steps for a music CD to load each CD in sequence 
into iTunes?  I'm not sure how the files will be named and if they'd land in 
order.

TIAA,
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RE: iTunes & Book Question

[M. Taylor]

Hello Carla,

Did you ever get this problem resolved?  Can you now add the titles to your 
phone?

Mark


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Subject: iTunes & Book Question

I put m4B books on my phone through iTunes and the last couple of weeks iTunes 
won’t let me put the books on the phone.  I’ve even uninstalled and 
re-installed iTunes.  Any help would be appreciated in making this work.  
Thanks in advance.

Carla

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iTunes & Book Question

[Carla]

I put m4B books on my phone through iTunes and the last couple of weeks
iTunes won't let me put the books on the phone.  I've even uninstalled and
re-installed iTunes.  Any help would be appreciated in making this work.
Thanks in advance.
 
Carla
 

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unable to get itunes to update via the apple software updater

[llumpkin]

I have a new machine that just got loaded a cou0ple of days ago. Some of my
things don't work such az getting the apple software updater to work. It's
windows 11 latest updates. Any ideas?

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Re: reading books from iTunes in Braille

[Duane Steele]

I have two BrailleEdge 40 devices. I'm not really sure how that would make much 
difference though because Books is an iTunes APP. I may have solved it by going 
to the library tab. Will let you know. Thanks Devin.
.




> On Apr 13, 2023, at 9:37 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> What Braille device do you have?
> 
>> On 4/13/2023 8:04 AM, Duane Steele wrote:
>> Hello Dear Friends,
>> I haven't purchased a book from iTunes in some time. this morning I found a 
>> book I'd really like to read, and, without thinking much about it, I bought 
>> it. I want to read using a Braille device, but suddenly all the books I 
>> bought in  the past, and this new one also, are virtually unreadable. I 
>> recently upgraded to the SE third generation iPhone, if that helps solve the 
>> problem. Maybe not. Any ideas?
>>   Peace & Blessings,
>> Pastor Duane L. Steele
>> Phone (276) 730-5194
> 
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Re: reading books from iTunes in Braille

[Devin Prater]

What Braille device do you have?

On 4/13/2023 8:04 AM, Duane Steele wrote:

Hello Dear Friends,

I haven't purchased a book from iTunes in some time. this morning I found a 
book I'd really like to read, and, without thinking much about it, I bought it. 
I want to read using a Braille device, but suddenly all the books I bought in  
the past, and this new one also, are virtually unreadable. I recently upgraded 
to the SE third generation iPhone, if that helps solve the problem. Maybe not. 
Any ideas?
   


Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194



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reading books from iTunes in Braille

[Duane Steele]

Hello Dear Friends,

I haven't purchased a book from iTunes in some time. this morning I found a 
book I'd really like to read, and, without thinking much about it, I bought it. 
I want to read using a Braille device, but suddenly all the books I bought in  
the past, and this new one also, are virtually unreadable. I recently upgraded 
to the SE third generation iPhone, if that helps solve the problem. Maybe not. 
Any ideas?
  

Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

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RE: Can't get my itunes movies to play in itunes for pc

[Richard Turner]

Well, have you tried calling Microsoft or Apple Accessibility?

I will double check about the movie quality I have later today to make sure I'm 
not off base.





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Subject: RE: Can't get my itunes movies to play in itunes for pc

I do exactly what you do and my movies won't play. They are all non hd.


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Turner
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Hi,
I think my movies in iTunes are Standard not High Def, but I any case, they 
play just fine on Windows 11.
I open iTunes.
Tab to the button that says music, hit the spacebar and arrow down to movies 
and hit enter.
I tab until I get to the list of movies.
I arrow right or left/up or down until I find the movie I want.
I then press the context menu key and select play, and it plays.




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Subject: Can't get my itunes movies to play in itunes for pc

Hello. I own 6 or 7 non-HD movies that I purchased from the itunes store. In 
windows 11, I can't get them to play on the pc using itunes. Any ideas anyone?


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RE: Can't get my itunes movies to play in itunes for pc

[llumpkin]

I do exactly what you do and my movies won't play. They are all non hd.


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Turner
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Hi,
I think my movies in iTunes are Standard not High Def, but I any case, they 
play just fine on Windows 11.
I open iTunes.
Tab to the button that says music, hit the spacebar and arrow down to movies 
and hit enter.
I tab until I get to the list of movies.
I arrow right or left/up or down until I find the movie I want.
I then press the context menu key and select play, and it plays.




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Subject: Can't get my itunes movies to play in itunes for pc

Hello. I own 6 or 7 non-HD movies that I purchased from the itunes store. In 
windows 11, I can't get them to play on the pc using itunes. Any ideas anyone?


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RE: Can't get my itunes movies to play in itunes for pc

[Richard Turner]

Hi,
I think my movies in iTunes are Standard not High Def, but I any case, they 
play just fine on Windows 11.
I open iTunes.
Tab to the button that says music, hit the spacebar and arrow down to movies 
and hit enter.
I tab until I get to the list of movies.
I arrow right or left/up or down until I find the movie I want.
I then press the context menu key and select play, and it plays.




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Hello. I own 6 or 7 non-HD movies that I purchased from the itunes store. In 
windows 11, I can't get them to play on the pc using itunes. Any ideas anyone?


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Can't get my itunes movies to play in itunes for pc

[llumpkin]

Hello. I own 6 or 7 non-HD movies that I purchased from the itunes store. In
windows 11, I can't get them to play on the pc using itunes. Any ideas
anyone?


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Re: Apple has released a Windows alternative to iTunes, with new Apple Music, TV, and Devices apps available to preview.

[Richard Turner]

You may also want to check with Microsoft accessibility: 800-936-5900
Thanks for jumping in on this.




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> On Jan 19, 2023, at 8:42 PM, CHELA Robles  wrote:
> 
> Well, call me the blind daredevil as in the actual daredevil of that actual 
> Marvel comic TV show or I think it was Netflix that had it but anyway, I took 
> a chance and downloaded the three apps for Windows 11, and took them for a 
> little spin and parts of it are accessible, but not enough to make the apps 
> usable. When I tab around past a certain part of each app, nothing speaks, 
> whether I use narrator, jaws, or even NVDA in each app. I will contact Apple 
> accessibility to see who works on the windows, side of things regarding these 
> apps, and see about possibly being a beta tester. If I could, for these apps 
> to make them screen reader, friendly with such input, I mean brain as of 
> right now I cannot get past the Side bar, which is kind of like a collapsible 
> accordion type deal in which you have to arrow down define what you’re 
> looking for and even that doesn’t work and when you enter on say the settings 
> option, nothing happens. so I would like to get in touch with the windows 
> side of things, creator of these apps, and see about providing my feedback 
> there, so I will if by permission keep you guys updated if something were to 
> come out of this if not well at least I could at least give my feedback in 
> general, but it would be a shame for them not to have any screen reader users 
> on board in my opinion, but that’s just my opinion and probably mine alone. 
> Just thought I’d let you all know what’s going on.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 12, 2023, at 8:04 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you for posting this, Sieghard.
>> 
>> I saw this and was very intrigued until I learned that the first iterations 
>> do not include clients for audiobooks and a couple of other media types.
>> 
>> Still, I think it is a definite step in the right direction.
>> 
>> Thank you again.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 10:03 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Apple has released a Windows alternative to iTunes, with new Apple 
>> Music, TV, and Devices apps available to preview.
>> 
>> It looks like the days of iTunes maybe numbered although you need to 
>> remember that for now these are app previews so count maybe on various bugs 
>> and since I have not yet tested any of them I can't speak to their 
>> accessibility. Furthermore the catch they mentioned is that a very recent 
>> version of Windows 11 is required to install and run these apps and for now 
>> apparently you can also only get them in the United States. So before you 
>> order a new Windows 11 computer maybe wait and see what Applevis and other 
>> people report as to the accessibility of these apps. Here is the article:
>> 
>> https://www.imore.com/apple/after-20-years-of-itunes-apple-music-is-finally-on-windows-with-one-major-catch
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Sieghard
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Re: Apple has released a Windows alternative to iTunes, with new Apple Music, TV, and Devices apps available to preview.

[CHELA Robles]

Well, call me the blind daredevil as in the actual daredevil of that actual 
Marvel comic TV show or I think it was Netflix that had it but anyway, I took a 
chance and downloaded the three apps for Windows 11, and took them for a little 
spin and parts of it are accessible, but not enough to make the apps usable. 
When I tab around past a certain part of each app, nothing speaks, whether I 
use narrator, jaws, or even NVDA in each app. I will contact Apple 
accessibility to see who works on the windows, side of things regarding these 
apps, and see about possibly being a beta tester. If I could, for these apps to 
make them screen reader, friendly with such input, I mean brain as of right now 
I cannot get past the Side bar, which is kind of like a collapsible accordion 
type deal in which you have to arrow down define what you’re looking for and 
even that doesn’t work and when you enter on say the settings option, nothing 
happens. so I would like to get in touch with the windows side of things, 
creator of these apps, and see about providing my feedback there, so I will if 
by permission keep you guys updated if something were to come out of this if 
not well at least I could at least give my feedback in general, but it would be 
a shame for them not to have any screen reader users on board in my opinion, 
but that’s just my opinion and probably mine alone. Just thought I’d let you 
all know what’s going on.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 12, 2023, at 8:04 PM, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Thank you for posting this, Sieghard.
> 
> I saw this and was very intrigued until I learned that the first iterations 
> do not include clients for audiobooks and a couple of other media types.
> 
> Still, I think it is a definite step in the right direction.
> 
> Thank you again.
> 
> Mark
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 10:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Apple has released a Windows alternative to iTunes, with new Apple 
> Music, TV, and Devices apps available to preview.
> 
> It looks like the days of iTunes maybe numbered although you need to remember 
> that for now these are app previews so count maybe on various bugs and since 
> I have not yet tested any of them I can't speak to their accessibility. 
> Furthermore the catch they mentioned is that a very recent version of Windows 
> 11 is required to install and run these apps and for now apparently you can 
> also only get them in the United States. So before you order a new Windows 11 
> computer maybe wait and see what Applevis and other people report as to the 
> accessibility of these apps. Here is the article:
> 
> https://www.imore.com/apple/after-20-years-of-itunes-apple-music-is-finally-on-windows-with-one-major-catch
> 
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> Sieghard
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RE: Apple has released a Windows alternative to iTunes, with new Apple Music, TV, and Devices apps available to preview.

[M. Taylor]

Thank you for posting this, Sieghard.

I saw this and was very intrigued until I learned that the first iterations do 
not include clients for audiobooks and a couple of other media types.

Still, I think it is a definite step in the right direction.

Thank you again.

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2023 10:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Apple has released a Windows alternative to iTunes, with new Apple 
Music, TV, and Devices apps available to preview.

It looks like the days of iTunes maybe numbered although you need to remember 
that for now these are app previews so count maybe on various bugs and since I 
have not yet tested any of them I can't speak to their accessibility. 
Furthermore the catch they mentioned is that a very recent version of Windows 
11 is required to install and run these apps and for now apparently you can 
also only get them in the United States. So before you order a new Windows 11 
computer maybe wait and see what Applevis and other people report as to the 
accessibility of these apps. Here is the article:

https://www.imore.com/apple/after-20-years-of-itunes-apple-music-is-finally-on-windows-with-one-major-catch

Best regards,
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Apple has released a Windows alternative to iTunes, with new Apple Music, TV, and Devices apps available to preview.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It looks like the days of iTunes maybe numbered although you need to remember 
that for now these are app previews so count maybe on various bugs and since I 
have not yet tested any of them I can't speak to their accessibility. 
Furthermore the catch they mentioned is that a very recent version of Windows 
11 is required to install and run these apps and for now apparently you can 
also only get them in the United States. So before you order a new Windows 11 
computer maybe wait and see what Applevis and other people report as to the 
accessibility of these apps. Here is the article:

After 20 years of iTunes, Apple Music is finally on Windows - with one major 
catch
<https://www.imore.com/apple/after-20-years-of-itunes-apple-music-is-finally-on-windows-with-one-major-catch>

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Re: Missing songs after syncing iphone with iTunes

[Wendy Lin]

Hello Marty,

Are you using iTunes on Mac or Windows? If you’re a Mac user and you plug your 
iPhone into your computer to sync music, I think I have an idea what’s 
happening since that’s happened to me before. You have to tab to where it says 
free more storage and uncheck the box. The reason why that box should be 
unchecked because I noticed that’s what keeps deleting my songs off my phone 
when I know I have those songs I’m looking for in my iTunes library. After 
that, tab over to where it says artists and music genres, make sure 
everything’s checked by going through the list of all your songs, using your up 
and down arrow keys. Once everything’s selected, tab over to apply all, VO 
space bar or press the return key, then it should work. Just wait for the 
tritone sound to indicate that the sinking process is done, before you unplug 
your phone.
Hope this helps.

Wendy Lin
> On Dec 14, 2022, at 1:22 AM, Marty Hutchings  
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> have an iPhone 8 with 256 Gigs, so the storage isn't an issue, but still
> some of my songs are missing from the music on my iPhone after syncing.  
> These songs are in my iTunes library, so why doesn't my iPhone have them?
> 
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Re: Missing songs after syncing iphone with iTunes

[Kelly Pierce]

Typically, the answer is that the iPhone does not like the tags on
your music files.  To put the songs in the music app, the iPhone uses
the ID3 tags on music files to identify artist, album, and style of
music.  If the data is not structured in a way liked by Apple, then
the iPhone places the files in the unknown file folder on your device.
I have used the free program MP3 Tag to retag my music files and it
has helped somewhat.

Kelly



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> I am having trouble getting iTunes to put my music library onto my
> iPhone.  I have an iPhone 8 with 256 Gigs, so the storage isn't an
> issue, but still
> some of my songs are missing from the music on my iPhone after syncing.
> These songs are in my iTunes library, so why doesn't my iPhone have them?
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Missing songs after syncing iphone with iTunes

[Marty Hutchings]

I am having trouble getting iTunes to put my music library onto my 
iPhone.  I have an iPhone 8 with 256 Gigs, so the storage isn't an 
issue, but still
some of my songs are missing from the music on my iPhone after syncing.  
These songs are in my iTunes library, so why doesn't my iPhone have them?


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Re: importing ringtone using itunes?

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Are there any instructions for the Mac?Sent from my iPhoneOn Dec 9, 2022, at 8:39 AM, Richard Turner  wrote:Here is mark Taylor's instructions on copying Ringtones with iTunes 12.7 and later. In iTunes 12.7 for Windows, it is no longer necessary to actually use the file menu to import ringtones.  In fact,attempting to do so will gain you nothing.  (smile).  So, to add a ringtone to your device, using Windows Explorer, copy the file, or files, to memory using thestandard windows command of Control+C. Next, with iTunes 12.7 in focus, your iOS device attached to your PC and selected, using standard jaws navigation commands, place focus on the Tonestab, located in the iTunes Sidebar.  Oh, make sure that you have iTunes set to display the Sidebar. Now, once you have the Tones tab selected, press the Tab key on your keyboard until you land in the list view of currently installed customringtones.  Then, simply use the paste command, Control+V, to add the ringtone to your device. By the way, you will notice that, as you tab around the tones area, you will land on an actions button.  You can use this button to act on the currentlyselected ringtone, such as playing it. To delete a ringtone, you must place focus on the particular ringtone you wish to remove from your device, and press the delete key.  Neither theApplication button nore the Jaws right-mouse click will work, at this time.Even the Actions button will not offer a delete choice.  The only way to remove the ringtone, at the time of this writing is to either press theDelete key on the keyboard, or press the right mouse button on your mouse and/or touch pad. Richard, USA.“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe My web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Suzy DjoumaSent: Friday, December 9, 2022 2:24 AMTo: viphone@googlegroups.comSubject: Re: importing ringtone using itunes? Hi Adam.Are use the apps MusicToRingtone and then edit in GarageBand, and then you will be able to save as a ringtone file. Hope this helps Sent from Outlook for iOSFrom: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Adam Morris <li...@damorris.com>Sent: Friday, December 9, 2022 10:07 amTo: viPhone <viphone@googlegroups.com>Subject: importing ringtone using itunes?  Hi all,My phone is set up and I can import music I have on my pc to the phone.Wondering what steps I go through to import a m4r file I have made to be used as a ring tone?TIA.--  Adam Morris Email, iMessage & FaceTime a...@damorris.com-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/8831045c-f19b-f000-a3c7-060177ea3784%40damorris.com-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PA4P191MB16809D51EBD506F958CBCCE7A11C9%40PA4P191MB1680.EURP191.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM.



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Re: importing ringtone using itunes?

[Chikodinaka Oguledo]

I have a brand new iPhone X X max half minutes I’m trying to import music from my computer onto my phone and make them as ringtones for my phone. How do I do that and what steps do I need to do to add music from my computer to my phone and turn them all my music into ringtones. Thank you very much happy  happy Merry Xmas and happy holidays Sent from my iPhone 10 SX maxOn Dec 9, 2022, at 5:07 AM, Adam Morris  wrote:
  


  
  
Hi all,
  My phone is set up and I can import music I have on my pc to the
  phone.
  Wondering what steps I go through to import a m4r file I have made
  to be used as a ring tone?
  
  TIA.
  

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RE: importing ringtone using itunes?

[Richard Turner]

Here is mark Taylor's instructions on copying Ringtones with iTunes 12.7 and 
later.

 

In iTunes 12.7 for Windows, it is no longer necessary to actually use the file 
menu to import ringtones.  In fact,

attempting to do so will gain you nothing.  (smile).  So, to add a ringtone to 
your device, using Windows Explorer, copy the file, or files, to memory using 
the

standard windows command of Control+C.

 

Next, with iTunes 12.7 in focus, your iOS device attached to your PC and 
selected, using standard jaws navigation commands, place focus on the Tones

tab, located in the iTunes Sidebar.  Oh, make sure that you have iTunes set to 
display the Sidebar.

 

Now, once you have the Tones tab selected, press the Tab key on your keyboard 
until you land in the list view of currently installed custom

ringtones.  Then, simply use the paste command, Control+V, to add the ringtone 
to your device.

 

By the way, you will notice that, as you tab around the tones area, you will 
land on an actions button.  You can use this button to act on the currently

selected ringtone, such as playing it.

 

To delete a ringtone, you must place focus on the particular ringtone you wish 
to remove from your device, and press the delete key.  Neither the

Application button nore the Jaws right-mouse click will work, at this time.

Even the Actions button will not offer a delete choice.  The only way to remove 
the ringtone, at the time of this writing is to either press the

Delete key on the keyboard, or press the right mouse button on your mouse 
and/or touch pad.

 

 

 

 

 

Richard, USA.

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--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

 

My web site:  <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com

 

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Djouma
Sent: Friday, December 9, 2022 2:24 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: importing ringtone using itunes?

 

Hi Adam.

Are use the apps MusicToRingtone and then edit in GarageBand, and then you will 
be able to save as a ringtone file. Hope this helps

 

Sent from Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> 

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Morris mailto:li...@damorris.com> >
Sent: Friday, December 9, 2022 10:07 am
To: viPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: importing ringtone using itunes? 

 

Hi all,
My phone is set up and I can import music I have on my pc to the phone.
Wondering what steps I go through to import a m4r file I have made to be used 
as a ring tone?

TIA.




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Re: importing ringtone using itunes?

[Suzy Djouma]

Hi Adam.
Are use the apps MusicToRingtone and then edit in GarageBand, and then you will 
be able to save as a ringtone file. Hope this helps

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Subject: importing ringtone using itunes?

Hi all,
My phone is set up and I can import music I have on my pc to the phone.
Wondering what steps I go through to import a m4r file I have made to be used 
as a ring tone?

TIA.


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importing ringtone using itunes?

[Adam Morris]

Hi all,
My phone is set up and I can import music I have on my pc to the phone.
Wondering what steps I go through to import a m4r file I have made to be 
used as a ring tone?


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How to delete back ups from iTunes

[Ketan Kothari]

Hello friends, how do I delete downloaded back apps from iTunes using NVDA?
When I go to iTunes, I get library and other options but no menus. Please
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RE: iTunes on a PC

[Richard Turner]

It is still tedious with Windows, but better than it used to be.

As for movies ... Playing movies in iTunes on the PC is not for the faint of 
heart.

If you have a movie with video description, be sure that under iTunes settings 
on the Playback tab, the checkbox for Play Audio Description when available is 
checked.  Open setting with Control+apostrophe and tab to the General tab, then 
right arrow or press control+tab to go toplayback settings.  Tab to that 
checkbox and make sure it is checked.

Tab to OK and hit enter when done.

In the main iTunes window, tab to the music button and press space and arrow 
down to Movies and press enter.

Here is the part that requires patience.
After selecting movies, tab and you will go through the following:
Library  radio button   checked  
Unwatched  radio button   not checked  
Store  radio button   not checked  
Library Sidebar  Tree view  
Things change depending on which one of the choices above are checked, I leave 
mine on Library.  When you get to the Library side bar, you can arrow up and 
down through how you want your movies organized.  Things like:
Genres
Home Videos
Downloaded
Movies
Recently Added

Once you are on the one you want, tab through:
Movie Playlists  Button  
Show  Button  
 table  
When you get to Table, for me it is showing as a grid.  I think that is the 
default.
Now, depending on how many movies you have, you can right arrow through the 
first row, then I would left arrow back to the first one, then down arrow to 
row two, and again right arrow through that row.

Of course, you could also down arrow at the end of row 1 and then left arrow 
back through row 2.  
Once you find the movie you want to play, press shift+f10 or your context menu 
key and you have choices:
 Context Menu  
Download 
Mark as Unwatched 
Add to Playlist  sub menu  
Play "movie title"
Movie Info 
Love 
Dislike 
Uncheck Selection 
Show in iTunes Store 
Copy 
Paste 
Delete from Library 

Obviously, you want to play the movie.
Hit enter on Play.
Once it starts playing, the spacebar will pause and you can tab through the 
following:
play  Button  
next  Button  
Play iTunes Extras  Button  
full screen  Button  
0:28 
 left right slider  
0.3 percent
-2:36:46 
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire 
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire 
volume  left right slider  
87 percent
previous  Button  
Then back to the play  Button 


I hope that helps.



Richard


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Clark
Sent: Saturday, May 7, 2022 10:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iTunes on a PC

I know that years ago iTunes was not very accessible on a Windows PC. Is this 
still the case, or has accessibility improved? I'm using NVDA.


Also, if I wanted to watch a movie on my PC that I bought through 
iTunes, can it be watched directly through iTunes or would I need to 
download some app in order to watch it on the PC? (needless to say, I 
have no experience with iTunes on a computer so unsure what is involved)


Thanks,

Sarah





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Re: iTunes on a PC

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Hi Sarah.  I also use NVDA and I am able to use iTunes.  I have no
idea how it would work, but I'm sure that if you bought a movie and
wanted to watch it on iTunes, you could do it directly through the
program.  How accessible the program is at doing this, I have no idea.
I use iTunes to copy ringtones to my iPhone and also, transfer zipped
folders of audio book series to voice dream reader.  Itunes isn't the
most accessible program I've ever used, but I can use it.  I haven't
tried out a lot of stuff with it, but I can use it for the things I
want to use it for.

On 5/8/22, Sarah Clark  wrote:
> I know that years ago iTunes was not very accessible on a Windows PC. Is
> this still the case, or has accessibility improved? I'm using NVDA.
>
>
> Also, if I wanted to watch a movie on my PC that I bought through
> iTunes, can it be watched directly through iTunes or would I need to
> download some app in order to watch it on the PC? (needless to say, I
> have no experience with iTunes on a computer so unsure what is
> involved)
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sarah
>
>
>
>
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iTunes on a PC

[Sarah Clark]

I know that years ago iTunes was not very accessible on a Windows PC. Is 
this still the case, or has accessibility improved? I'm using NVDA.



Also, if I wanted to watch a movie on my PC that I bought through 
iTunes, can it be watched directly through iTunes or would I need to 
download some app in order to watch it on the PC? (needless to say, I 
have no experience with iTunes on a computer so unsure what is involved)



Thanks,

Sarah





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Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I think I'll stick with iTunes.  That is easier for me than using
something like garage band.  However, the demo was done quite well.
Thanks for providing it for us all.

On 4/7/22, CrazyEyez  wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I just wanted to thank you for taking the time to record and share that
> demo.
> It definitely helped me.
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 6, 2022, at 11:40 PM, Earle  wrote:
>>
>> I finally had a chance to record the demo. Sorry it took so long. Here's
>> the link and feel free to contact me with any questions you may have.
>>
>> https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/0f8dBwiuc-z7_jqaiXrQteE5Q#Ringtone_Demo
>>
>> Earle
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>>> On Apr 2, 2022, at 12:22 PM, Earle  wrote:
>>>>
>>> I haven't forgotten about the demo. I will have to record it tomorrow. I
>>> won't be home today. The last couple of days have been busier than usual.
>>> Sorry for the delay. I'll get it done tomorrow.
>>>
>>> Earle
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Mar 31, 2022, at 10:44 PM, jasmine.kot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Blindness is not what defines me, but there are many things that do."
>>>> Jasmine Kotsay, 2007
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>>> Earle
>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 5:32 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes
>>>>
>>>> I'll record the demo tonight and put the dropbox link in this group.
>>>> I'll send you the link privately as well Jasmine. I received the email
>>>> you sent me.
>>>>
>>>> Earle
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>>> On Mar 31, 2022, at 12:16 AM, Gordon  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Feel free to record that demo and share it with us all if you'd like.
>>>>> Sounds like several of us are interested in knowing how to do this.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/30/2022 10:14 PM, Earle wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Jasmine. If you want to email me off list we can work something
>>>>>> out. The best email address to use is:
>>>>>> rowdyameri...@gmail.com
>>>>>> Then we can talk and exchange info if you like. Maybe I could record
>>>>>> you a demo. It might help you if you can actually hear how it is
>>>>>> done.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Earle
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 30, 2022, at 9:25 PM, Jasmine Kotsay
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> I was wondering, can we possibly talk off-list? I would love to learn
>>>>>>> this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that
>>>>>>> do."
>>>>>>> —Jasmine Kotsay, 2007
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>>> From: Earle 
>>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 03:50 PM
>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am totally blind as well and I have no problems doing what I said
>>>>>>> in my previous message using GarageBand on the iPhone. I have done it
>>>>>>> as recently as last week and experienced no difficulties at all.
>>>>>>> Earle
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>> On Mar 30, 2022, at 6:15 PM, Jasmine Kotsay
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> Have you been able to do this in the last few months? I can't seem
>>>>>>>> to get the GarageBand app to work, maybe because I'm totally blind.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>> Jasmine
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>&

Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes

[CrazyEyez]

Hello,

I just wanted to thank you for taking the time to record and share that demo.
It definitely helped me.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 6, 2022, at 11:40 PM, Earle  wrote:
> 
> I finally had a chance to record the demo. Sorry it took so long. Here's the 
> link and feel free to contact me with any questions you may have.
> 
> https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/0f8dBwiuc-z7_jqaiXrQteE5Q#Ringtone_Demo
> 
> Earle
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Apr 2, 2022, at 12:22 PM, Earle  wrote:
>>> 
>> I haven't forgotten about the demo. I will have to record it tomorrow. I 
>> won't be home today. The last couple of days have been busier than usual. 
>> Sorry for the delay. I'll get it done tomorrow.
>> 
>> Earle
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 31, 2022, at 10:44 PM, jasmine.kot...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you! 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "Blindness is not what defines me, but there are many things that do."
>>> Jasmine Kotsay, 2007
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Earle
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 5:32 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes
>>> 
>>> I'll record the demo tonight and put the dropbox link in this group. I'll 
>>> send you the link privately as well Jasmine. I received the email you sent 
>>> me.
>>> 
>>> Earle
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 31, 2022, at 12:16 AM, Gordon  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Feel free to record that demo and share it with us all if you'd like. 
>>>> Sounds like several of us are interested in knowing how to do this.
>>>> 
>>>>>> On 3/30/2022 10:14 PM, Earle wrote:
>>>>> Hi Jasmine. If you want to email me off list we can work something out. 
>>>>> The best email address to use is:
>>>>> rowdyameri...@gmail.com
>>>>> Then we can talk and exchange info if you like. Maybe I could record 
>>>>> you a demo. It might help you if you can actually hear how it is done.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Earle
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 30, 2022, at 9:25 PM, Jasmine Kotsay  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> I was wondering, can we possibly talk off-list? I would love to learn 
>>>>>> this.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do."
>>>>>> —Jasmine Kotsay, 2007
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>> From: Earle 
>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 03:50 PM
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am totally blind as well and I have no problems doing what I said in 
>>>>>> my previous message using GarageBand on the iPhone. I have done it as 
>>>>>> recently as last week and experienced no difficulties at all.
>>>>>> Earle
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> On Mar 30, 2022, at 6:15 PM, Jasmine Kotsay  
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> Have you been able to do this in the last few months? I can't seem to 
>>>>>>> get the GarageBand app to work, maybe because I'm totally blind.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>> Jasmine
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do."
>>>>>>> —Jasmine Kotsay, 2007
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do."
>>>>>> —Jasmine Kotsay, 2007
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>>> From: Earle 
>>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 01:01 PM
>>>>>>> To:
>>>>>>> CC: v

Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes

[Earle]

I finally had a chance to record the demo. Sorry it took so long. Here's the 
link and feel free to contact me with any questions you may have.

https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/0f8dBwiuc-z7_jqaiXrQteE5Q#Ringtone_Demo

Earle

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 2, 2022, at 12:22 PM, Earle  wrote:
> 
> I haven't forgotten about the demo. I will have to record it tomorrow. I 
> won't be home today. The last couple of days have been busier than usual. 
> Sorry for the delay. I'll get it done tomorrow.
> 
> Earle
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 31, 2022, at 10:44 PM, jasmine.kot...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you! 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "Blindness is not what defines me, but there are many things that do."
>> Jasmine Kotsay, 2007
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Earle
>> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 5:32 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes
>> 
>> I'll record the demo tonight and put the dropbox link in this group. I'll 
>> send you the link privately as well Jasmine. I received the email you sent 
>> me.
>> 
>> Earle
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Mar 31, 2022, at 12:16 AM, Gordon  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Feel free to record that demo and share it with us all if you'd like. 
>>> Sounds like several of us are interested in knowing how to do this.
>>> 
>>>>> On 3/30/2022 10:14 PM, Earle wrote:
>>>> Hi Jasmine. If you want to email me off list we can work something out. 
>>>> The best email address to use is:
>>>> rowdyameri...@gmail.com
>>>> Then we can talk and exchange info if you like. Maybe I could record 
>>>> you a demo. It might help you if you can actually hear how it is done.
>>>> 
>>>> Earle
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 30, 2022, at 9:25 PM, Jasmine Kotsay  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> I was wondering, can we possibly talk off-list? I would love to learn 
>>>>> this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do."
>>>>> —Jasmine Kotsay, 2007
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>> From: Earle 
>>>>> Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 03:50 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am totally blind as well and I have no problems doing what I said in my 
>>>>> previous message using GarageBand on the iPhone. I have done it as 
>>>>> recently as last week and experienced no difficulties at all.
>>>>> Earle
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> On Mar 30, 2022, at 6:15 PM, Jasmine Kotsay  
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> Have you been able to do this in the last few months? I can't seem to 
>>>>>> get the GarageBand app to work, maybe because I'm totally blind.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>> Jasmine
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> "Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do."
>>>>>> —Jasmine Kotsay, 2007
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> "Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do."
>>>>> —Jasmine Kotsay, 2007
>>>>> 
>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>> From: Earle 
>>>>>> Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 01:01 PM
>>>>>> To:
>>>>>> CC: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The only way I know of to accomplish what you want is to import the M4R 
>>>>>> file into GarageBand on your iPhone. Then you can share it as a ringtone 
>>>>>> and it will show up in your ringers and alerts. That is the only way I 
>>>>>> have been able to put M for our files into my ringtones and alerts.
>>>>>> Earle
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>> On Mar 

Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes

[Earle]

I haven't forgotten about the demo. I will have to record it tomorrow. I won't 
be home today. The last couple of days have been busier than usual. Sorry for 
the delay. I'll get it done tomorrow.

Earle

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 31, 2022, at 10:44 PM, jasmine.kot...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Thank you! 
> 
> 
> 
> "Blindness is not what defines me, but there are many things that do."
> Jasmine Kotsay, 2007
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Earle
> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 5:32 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes
> 
> I'll record the demo tonight and put the dropbox link in this group. I'll 
> send you the link privately as well Jasmine. I received the email you sent me.
> 
> Earle
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 31, 2022, at 12:16 AM, Gordon  wrote:
>> 
>> Feel free to record that demo and share it with us all if you'd like. 
>> Sounds like several of us are interested in knowing how to do this.
>> 
>>>> On 3/30/2022 10:14 PM, Earle wrote:
>>> Hi Jasmine. If you want to email me off list we can work something out. The 
>>> best email address to use is:
>>> rowdyameri...@gmail.com
>>> Then we can talk and exchange info if you like. Maybe I could record 
>>> you a demo. It might help you if you can actually hear how it is done.
>>> 
>>> Earle
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 30, 2022, at 9:25 PM, Jasmine Kotsay  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I was wondering, can we possibly talk off-list? I would love to learn this.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> "Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do."
>>>> —Jasmine Kotsay, 2007
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: Earle 
>>>> Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 03:50 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes
>>>> 
>>>> I am totally blind as well and I have no problems doing what I said in my 
>>>> previous message using GarageBand on the iPhone. I have done it as 
>>>> recently as last week and experienced no difficulties at all.
>>>> Earle
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> On Mar 30, 2022, at 6:15 PM, Jasmine Kotsay  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> Have you been able to do this in the last few months? I can't seem to get 
>>>>> the GarageBand app to work, maybe because I'm totally blind.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> Jasmine
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> "Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do."
>>>>> —Jasmine Kotsay, 2007
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> "Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do."
>>>> —Jasmine Kotsay, 2007
>>>> 
>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>> From: Earle 
>>>>> Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 01:01 PM
>>>>> To:
>>>>> CC: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes
>>>>> 
>>>>> The only way I know of to accomplish what you want is to import the M4R 
>>>>> file into GarageBand on your iPhone. Then you can share it as a ringtone 
>>>>> and it will show up in your ringers and alerts. That is the only way I 
>>>>> have been able to put M for our files into my ringtones and alerts.
>>>>> Earle
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> On Mar 30, 2022, at 10:52 AM, Gordon  wrote:
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RE: Adding Custom Ringtones using iTunes

[Richard Turner]

Robert,

See my answer with the subject line: Waltr Pro and Jaws.

 

 

Richard

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Robert 
Doc Wright
Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 7:39 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Adding Custom Ringtones using iTunes

 

In your demonstration you went to your Hitchhikers folder and grabbed a zip 
file. You mentioned that if a single file was sent that you would get an alert 
to convert.

 

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 8:26 AM

Subject: Re: Adding Custom Ringtones using iTunes

 

I never said that. 

I do not know what Waltr Pro would do with a zip file of music.

You should try writing their support team; though they can be slow to reply, 
supp...@softorino.com <mailto:supp...@softorino.com> 

I think that is the correct spelling.

It will put plain music files where they belong I guess.

I only use it to put things directly into Voice Dream Reader like audio books.

I guess it will do ringtones to, but the iTunes method is far easier and free.

 

 

Richard

"When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing 
can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and faster 
and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a precipice 
does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too late."

 

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Paul)

 

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On Apr 1, 2022, at 4:56 AM, Robert Doc Wright mailto:yeshua.talmi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

richard, are you saying that I could gather all my music and zip it and Waltr 
pro will unpack and place the music in the music app?

- Original Message - 

From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 10:52 AM

Subject: Adding Custom Ringtones using iTunes

 

Hello,

I did a walk-through of how to put a custom ringtone on your iPhone using Jaws, 
though any screen reader will work the same.  I thought it would help to hear 
exactly where you need to be when pasting.

I

It is available on my Demos and Walk-Throughs page;

http://www.turner42.com/DEMOS.html

Navigate by heading level 2 to get to it uickly.

Richard

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Re: Adding Custom Ringtones using iTunes

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> On Apr 1, 2022, at 9:26 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I never said that.
> I do not know what Waltr Pro would do with a zip file of music.
> You should try writing their support team; though they can be slow to reply, 
> supp...@softorino.com
> I think that is the correct spelling.
> It will put plain music files where they belong I guess.
> I only use it to put things directly into Voice Dream Reader like audio books.
> I guess it will do ringtones to, but the iTunes method is far easier and free.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe 
> nothing can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and 
> faster and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a 
> precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too 
> late."
> 
> Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to 
> Paul)
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>> On Apr 1, 2022, at 4:56 AM, Robert Doc Wright  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> richard, are you saying that I could gather all my music and zip it and 
>> Waltr pro will unpack and place the music in the music app?
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardr_tur...@comcast.net>
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 10:52 AM
>> Subject: Adding Custom Ringtones using iTunes
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I did a walk-through of how to put a custom ringtone on your iPhone using 
>> Jaws, though any screen reader will work the same.  I thought it would help 
>> to hear exactly where you need to be when pasting.
>>  
>> I
>> It is available on my Demos and Walk-Throughs page;
>> http://www.turner42.com/DEMOS.html <http://www.turner42.com/DEMOS.html>
>> Navigate by heading level 2 to get to it uickly.
>>  
>> Richard
>> “While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible.” – John Wesley
>>  
>>  
>> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/ <https://www.turner42.com/>
>>  
>> 
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Re: Adding Custom Ringtones using iTunes

[Richard Turner]

Clearly I should listen to my own demos more often; but in my defence, you 
replied on a thread about ringtones, not about Waltr Pro, so I focused on the 
thread topic and knew I had not mentioned anything about Waltr Pro in my 
ringtones walk-through.
I will double check that recording and get back to you.



Richard
"When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe nothing 
can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and faster 
and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a precipice 
does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too late."

Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to 
Paul)

My web site: https://www.turner42.com


> On Apr 1, 2022, at 7:38 AM, Robert Doc Wright  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> In your demonstration you went to your Hitchhikers folder and grabbed a zip 
> file. You mentioned that if a single file was sent that you would get an 
> alert to convert.
>  
> - Original Message -
> From: Richard Turner
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 8:26 AM
> Subject: Re: Adding Custom Ringtones using iTunes
> 
> I never said that.
> I do not know what Waltr Pro would do with a zip file of music.
> You should try writing their support team; though they can be slow to reply, 
> supp...@softorino.com
> I think that is the correct spelling.
> It will put plain music files where they belong I guess.
> I only use it to put things directly into Voice Dream Reader like audio books.
> I guess it will do ringtones to, but the iTunes method is far easier and free.
> 
> 
> 
> Richard
> "When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe 
> nothing can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and 
> faster and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a 
> precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too 
> late."
> 
> Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to 
> Paul)
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> 
>> On Apr 1, 2022, at 4:56 AM, Robert Doc Wright  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> richard, are you saying that I could gather all my music and zip it and 
>> Waltr pro will unpack and place the music in the music app?
>> - Original Message -
>> From: Richard Turner
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 10:52 AM
>> Subject: Adding Custom Ringtones using iTunes
>> 
>> Hello,
>> I did a walk-through of how to put a custom ringtone on your iPhone using 
>> Jaws, though any screen reader will work the same.  I thought it would help 
>> to hear exactly where you need to be when pasting.
>> I
>> It is available on my Demos and Walk-Throughs page;
>> http://www.turner42.com/DEMOS.html
>> Navigate by heading level 2 to get to it uickly.
>> Richard
>> “While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible.” – John Wesley
>> My web site; https://www.turner42.com/
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Re: Adding Custom Ringtones using iTunes

[Robert Doc Wright]

In your demonstration you went to your Hitchhikers folder and grabbed a zip 
file. You mentioned that if a single file was sent that you would get an alert 
to convert.

  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 8:26 AM
  Subject: Re: Adding Custom Ringtones using iTunes


  I never said that.
  I do not know what Waltr Pro would do with a zip file of music.
  You should try writing their support team; though they can be slow to reply, 
supp...@softorino.com
  I think that is the correct spelling.
  It will put plain music files where they belong I guess.
  I only use it to put things directly into Voice Dream Reader like audio books.
  I guess it will do ringtones to, but the iTunes method is far easier and free.





  Richard
  "When religion and politics travel in the same cart, the riders believe 
nothing can stand in their way. Their movement becomes headlong -- faster and 
faster and faster. They put aside all thought of obstacles and forget that a 
precipice does not show itself to the man in a blind rush until it's too late."


  Bene Gesserit proverb from Dune by Frank Herbert (Quoted by Lady Jessica to 
Paul)


  My web site: https://www.turner42.com




On Apr 1, 2022, at 4:56 AM, Robert Doc Wright  
wrote:


 
richard, are you saying that I could gather all my music and zip it and 
Waltr pro will unpack and place the music in the music app?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 10:52 AM
  Subject: Adding Custom Ringtones using iTunes


  Hello,

  I did a walk-through of how to put a custom ringtone on your iPhone using 
Jaws, though any screen reader will work the same.  I thought it would help to 
hear exactly where you need to be when pasting.



  I

  It is available on my Demos and Walk-Throughs page;

  http://www.turner42.com/DEMOS.html

  Navigate by heading level 2 to get to it uickly.



  Richard

  “While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible.” – John Wesley





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Re: Adding Custom Ringtones using iTunes

[Richard Turner]

I never said that.
I do not know what Waltr Pro would do with a zip file of music.
You should try writing their support team; though they can be slow to reply, 
supp...@softorino.com
I think that is the correct spelling.
It will put plain music files where they belong I guess.
I only use it to put things directly into Voice Dream Reader like audio books.
I guess it will do ringtones to, but the iTunes method is far easier and free.



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> On Apr 1, 2022, at 4:56 AM, Robert Doc Wright  
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> richard, are you saying that I could gather all my music and zip it and Waltr 
> pro will unpack and place the music in the music app?
> - Original Message -
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> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 10:52 AM
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> 
> Hello,
> I did a walk-through of how to put a custom ringtone on your iPhone using 
> Jaws, though any screen reader will work the same.  I thought it would help 
> to hear exactly where you need to be when pasting.
>  
> I
> It is available on my Demos and Walk-Throughs page;
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Re: Adding Custom Ringtones using iTunes

[Robert Doc Wright]

richard, are you saying that I could gather all my music and zip it and Waltr 
pro will unpack and place the music in the music app?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Richard Turner 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 10:52 AM
  Subject: Adding Custom Ringtones using iTunes


  Hello,

  I did a walk-through of how to put a custom ringtone on your iPhone using 
Jaws, though any screen reader will work the same.  I thought it would help to 
hear exactly where you need to be when pasting.

   

  I

  It is available on my Demos and Walk-Throughs page;

  http://www.turner42.com/DEMOS.html

  Navigate by heading level 2 to get to it uickly.

   

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RE: Using files as ring tones without iTunes

[jasmine.kotsay]

Thank you! 



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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Earle
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2022 5:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes

I'll record the demo tonight and put the dropbox link in this group. I'll send 
you the link privately as well Jasmine. I received the email you sent me.

Earle

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 31, 2022, at 12:16 AM, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> Feel free to record that demo and share it with us all if you'd like. Sounds 
> like several of us are interested in knowing how to do this.
> 
>> On 3/30/2022 10:14 PM, Earle wrote:
>> Hi Jasmine. If you want to email me off list we can work something out. The 
>> best email address to use is:
>> rowdyameri...@gmail.com
>> Then we can talk and exchange info if you like. Maybe I could record 
>> you a demo. It might help you if you can actually hear how it is done.
>> 
>> Earle
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Mar 30, 2022, at 9:25 PM, Jasmine Kotsay  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I was wondering, can we possibly talk off-list? I would love to learn this.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do."
>>> —Jasmine Kotsay, 2007
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Earle 
>>> Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 03:50 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes
>>> 
>>> I am totally blind as well and I have no problems doing what I said in my 
>>> previous message using GarageBand on the iPhone. I have done it as recently 
>>> as last week and experienced no difficulties at all.
>>> Earle
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> On Mar 30, 2022, at 6:15 PM, Jasmine Kotsay  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Have you been able to do this in the last few months? I can't seem to get 
>>>> the GarageBand app to work, maybe because I'm totally blind.
>>>> 
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Jasmine
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> "Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do."
>>>> —Jasmine Kotsay, 2007
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> "Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do."
>>> —Jasmine Kotsay, 2007
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: Earle 
>>>> Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 01:01 PM
>>>> To:
>>>> CC: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes
>>>> 
>>>> The only way I know of to accomplish what you want is to import the M4R 
>>>> file into GarageBand on your iPhone. Then you can share it as a ringtone 
>>>> and it will show up in your ringers and alerts. That is the only way I 
>>>> have been able to put M for our files into my ringtones and alerts.
>>>> Earle
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Adding Custom Ringtones using iTunes

[Maria Heinrichs]

    Okay I hope this reaches the list because Thunderbird is being 
weird lol. So how do you convert something to m4r in the first place I 
mean let's say I pick a song from the iTunes store that's not a ringtone 
and I wanna save it as a ringtone for someone what do you do to make it 
an m4r file on your iPhone? Thanks.

Maria On 3/31/2022 11:52 AM, Richard Turner wrote:


Hello,

I did a walk-through of how to put a custom ringtone on your iPhone 
using Jaws, though any screen reader will work the same.  I thought it 
would help to hear exactly where you need to be when pasting.


I

It is available on my Demos and Walk-Throughs page;

http://www.turner42.com/DEMOS.html

Navigate by heading level 2 to get to it uickly.

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Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes

[Earle]

I'll record the demo tonight and put the dropbox link in this group. I'll send 
you the link privately as well Jasmine. I received the email you sent me.

Earle

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 31, 2022, at 12:16 AM, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> Feel free to record that demo and share it with us all if you'd like. Sounds 
> like several of us are interested in knowing how to do this.
> 
>> On 3/30/2022 10:14 PM, Earle wrote:
>> Hi Jasmine. If you want to email me off list we can work something out. The 
>> best email address to use is:
>> rowdyameri...@gmail.com
>> Then we can talk and exchange info if you like. Maybe I could
>> record you a demo. It might help you if you can actually hear how it is done.
>> 
>> Earle
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Mar 30, 2022, at 9:25 PM, Jasmine Kotsay  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I was wondering, can we possibly talk off-list? I would love to learn this.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do."
>>> —Jasmine Kotsay, 2007
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>> From: Earle 
>>> Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 03:50 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes
>>> 
>>> I am totally blind as well and I have no problems doing what I said in my 
>>> previous message using GarageBand on the iPhone. I have done it as recently 
>>> as last week and experienced no difficulties at all.
>>> Earle
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> On Mar 30, 2022, at 6:15 PM, Jasmine Kotsay  
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> Have you been able to do this in the last few months? I can't seem to get 
>>>> the GarageBand app to work, maybe because I'm totally blind.
>>>> 
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Jasmine
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> "Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do."
>>>> —Jasmine Kotsay, 2007
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> "Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do."
>>> —Jasmine Kotsay, 2007
>>> 
>>> - Original Message -
>>>> From: Earle 
>>>> Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 01:01 PM
>>>> To:
>>>> CC: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes
>>>> 
>>>> The only way I know of to accomplish what you want is to import the M4R 
>>>> file into GarageBand on your iPhone. Then you can share it as a ringtone 
>>>> and it will show up in your ringers and alerts. That is the only way I 
>>>> have been able to put M for our files into my ringtones and alerts.
>>>> Earle
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Adding Custom Ringtones using iTunes

[Richard Turner]

Hello,

I did a walk-through of how to put a custom ringtone on your iPhone using
Jaws, though any screen reader will work the same.  I thought it would help
to hear exactly where you need to be when pasting.

 

I

It is available on my Demos and Walk-Throughs page;

http://www.turner42.com/DEMOS.html

Navigate by heading level 2 to get to it uickly.

 

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RE: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes

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Subject: RE: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes

Hi, 
I was wondering, can we possibly talk off-list? I would love to learn this.



"Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do." 
—Jasmine Kotsay, 2007 

- Original Message -
From: Earle 
Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 03:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes

I am totally blind as well and I have no problems doing what I said in my 
previous message using GarageBand on the iPhone. I have done it as recently as 
last week and experienced no difficulties at all.
Earle
Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 30, 2022, at 6:15 PM, Jasmine Kotsay  wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> Have you been able to do this in the last few months? I can't seem to get the 
> GarageBand app to work, maybe because I'm totally blind. 
> 
> Sincerely, 
> Jasmine 
> 
> 
> 
> "Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do." 
> —Jasmine Kotsay, 2007 
> 
> 

"Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do." 
—Jasmine Kotsay, 2007 

- Original Message -
> From: Earle 
> Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 01:01 PM
> To: 
> CC: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes
> 
> The only way I know of to accomplish what you want is to import the M4R file 
> into GarageBand on your iPhone. Then you can share it as a ringtone and it 
> will show up in your ringers and alerts. That is the only way I have been 
> able to put M for our files into my ringtones and alerts.
> Earle
> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Mar 30, 2022, at 10:52 AM, Gordon  wrote:
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Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes

[Gordon]

Feel free to record that demo and share it with us all if you'd like. 
Sounds like several of us are interested in knowing how to do this.


On 3/30/2022 10:14 PM, Earle wrote:

Hi Jasmine. If you want to email me off list we can work something out. The 
best email address to use is:
rowdyameri...@gmail.com
Then we can talk and exchange info if you like. Maybe I could
record you a demo. It might help you if you can actually hear how it is done.

Earle

Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 30, 2022, at 9:25 PM, Jasmine Kotsay  wrote:

Hi,
I was wondering, can we possibly talk off-list? I would love to learn this.



"Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do."
—Jasmine Kotsay, 2007

- Original Message -
From: Earle 
Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 03:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes

I am totally blind as well and I have no problems doing what I said in my 
previous message using GarageBand on the iPhone. I have done it as recently as 
last week and experienced no difficulties at all.
Earle
Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 30, 2022, at 6:15 PM, Jasmine Kotsay  wrote:

Hi,
Have you been able to do this in the last few months? I can't seem to get the 
GarageBand app to work, maybe because I'm totally blind.

Sincerely,
Jasmine



"Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do."
—Jasmine Kotsay, 2007



"Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do."
—Jasmine Kotsay, 2007

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From: Earle 
Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 01:01 PM
To:
CC: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes

The only way I know of to accomplish what you want is to import the M4R file 
into GarageBand on your iPhone. Then you can share it as a ringtone and it will 
show up in your ringers and alerts. That is the only way I have been able to 
put M for our files into my ringtones and alerts.
Earle
Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 30, 2022, at 10:52 AM, Gordon  wrote:

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Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes

[Earle]

Hi Jasmine. If you want to email me off list we can work something out. The 
best email address to use is:
rowdyameri...@gmail.com
Then we can talk and exchange info if you like. Maybe I could
record you a demo. It might help you if you can actually hear how it is done.

Earle

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> On Mar 30, 2022, at 9:25 PM, Jasmine Kotsay  wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> I was wondering, can we possibly talk off-list? I would love to learn this.
> 
> 
> 
> "Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do." 
> —Jasmine Kotsay, 2007 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Earle 
> Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 03:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes
> 
> I am totally blind as well and I have no problems doing what I said in my 
> previous message using GarageBand on the iPhone. I have done it as recently 
> as last week and experienced no difficulties at all.
> Earle
> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Mar 30, 2022, at 6:15 PM, Jasmine Kotsay  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, 
>> Have you been able to do this in the last few months? I can't seem to get 
>> the GarageBand app to work, maybe because I'm totally blind. 
>> 
>> Sincerely, 
>> Jasmine 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> "Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do." 
>> —Jasmine Kotsay, 2007 
>> 
>> 
> 
> "Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do." 
> —Jasmine Kotsay, 2007 
> 
> - Original Message -
>> From: Earle 
>> Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 01:01 PM
>> To: 
>> CC: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes
>> 
>> The only way I know of to accomplish what you want is to import the M4R file 
>> into GarageBand on your iPhone. Then you can share it as a ringtone and it 
>> will show up in your ringers and alerts. That is the only way I have been 
>> able to put M for our files into my ringtones and alerts.
>> Earle
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> On Mar 30, 2022, at 10:52 AM, Gordon  wrote:
>>> 
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RE: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes

[Jasmine Kotsay]

Hi, 
I was wondering, can we possibly talk off-list? I would love to learn this.



"Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do." 
—Jasmine Kotsay, 2007 

- Original Message -
From: Earle 
Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 03:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes

I am totally blind as well and I have no problems doing what I said in my 
previous message using GarageBand on the iPhone. I have done it as recently as 
last week and experienced no difficulties at all.
Earle
Sent from my iPhone
> On Mar 30, 2022, at 6:15 PM, Jasmine Kotsay  wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> Have you been able to do this in the last few months? I can't seem to get the 
> GarageBand app to work, maybe because I'm totally blind. 
> 
> Sincerely, 
> Jasmine 
> 
> 
> 
> "Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do." 
> —Jasmine Kotsay, 2007 
> 
> 

"Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do." 
—Jasmine Kotsay, 2007 

- Original Message -
> From: Earle 
> Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 01:01 PM
> To: 
> CC: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes
> 
> The only way I know of to accomplish what you want is to import the M4R file 
> into GarageBand on your iPhone. Then you can share it as a ringtone and it 
> will show up in your ringers and alerts. That is the only way I have been 
> able to put M for our files into my ringtones and alerts.
> Earle
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes

[Earle]

I am totally blind as well and I have no problems doing what I said in my 
previous message using GarageBand on the iPhone. I have done it as recently as 
last week and experienced no difficulties at all.

Earle

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 30, 2022, at 6:15 PM, Jasmine Kotsay  wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> Have you been able to do this in the last few months? I can't seem to get the 
> GarageBand app to work, maybe because I'm totally blind. 
> 
> Sincerely, 
> Jasmine 
> 
> 
> 
> "Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do." 
> —Jasmine Kotsay, 2007 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: Earle 
> Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 01:01 PM
> To: 
> CC: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes
> 
> The only way I know of to accomplish what you want is to import the M4R file 
> into GarageBand on your iPhone. Then you can share it as a ringtone and it 
> will show up in your ringers and alerts. That is the only way I have been 
> able to put M for our files into my ringtones and alerts.
> Earle
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes

[Joshua Hendrickson]

Itunes works fine for me.

On 3/30/22, Jasmine Kotsay  wrote:
> Hi,
> Have you been able to do this in the last few months? I can't seem to get
> the GarageBand app to work, maybe because I'm totally blind.
>
> Sincerely,
> Jasmine
>
>
>
> "Blindness is not what defines me, yet there are many things that do."
> —Jasmine Kotsay, 2007
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Earle 
> Date: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 01:01 PM
> To:
> CC: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Using files as ring tones without iTunes
>
> The only way I know of to accomplish what you want is to import the M4R file
> into GarageBand on your iPhone. Then you can share it as a ringtone and it
> will show up in your ringers and alerts. That is the only way I have been
> able to put M for our files into my ringtones and alerts.
> Earle
> Sent from my iPhone
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