What is jail breaking

2015-07-05 Thread princessterri76
Hello everyone 

I have some questions. I hope someone can help me out. 

What is jail breaking?
Why would you want to do this?
How does it change your phone?
How do you go about doing this?

Anything anyone can tell me would be very much appreciated. 

Thank you. 

Terri

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Re: What is jail breaking

2015-07-05 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Jailbreaking is removing some of the restrictions Apple has placed on 
the iPhone. If you jailbreak, you can install apps from sources other 
than the App Store, change the look and feel of your interface, make 
other apps the default apps on your phone and so on. You can read more 
at any one of a number of pages, such as 
http://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/iphone/ios-jailbreaking-pros-cons-jailbreak-iphone-good-bad-3491721/


On 07/05/2015 12:56 PM, princessterr...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello everyone

I have some questions. I hope someone can help me out.

What is jail breaking?
Why would you want to do this?
How does it change your phone?
How do you go about doing this?

Anything anyone can tell me would be very much appreciated.

Thank you.

Terri

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Re: What is jail breaking

2015-07-05 Thread Chris Smart


Google to the rescue:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_jailbreaking

At 01:56 PM 7/5/2015, you wrote:
Hello everyone 
I have some questions. I hope someone can help me out. 
What is jail breaking?
Why would you want to do this?
How does it change your phone?
How do you go about doing this?
Anything anyone can tell me would be very much appreciated. 
Thank you. 
Terri
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Re: jail breaking a iphone

2014-05-29 Thread Broxi72

hi Pablo, I totally agree, let's discuss it right here, Billy

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From: Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 9:45 AM
Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone


Yes, it is that I have been saying. Why off list?
It is a topic that should not be tried in the list?
Why every time when somebody ask about this topic,  the people ask to do it
off list.
And please, don't respond me that are podcast where they talk about it,
because are podcast for the rest of topics that we try here every day, but I
don't see that kind of responses. Normally when somebody comes with a
question, many people respond the question, no matter is the respond is
available on google. The people always, respond. But for the jailbreaking,
always the people walk around avoiding the topic.
-Original Message- the topic.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Broxi72
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone

Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy
- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:31 AM
Subject: jail breaking a iphone


could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone?
dennisl1...@gmail.com

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Re: jail breaking a iphone

2014-05-29 Thread Broxi72
hi Dennis, I'm also in the dark as far as Jailbreaking goes. I have an 
iPhone4s and would really think about getting it Jailbroken, but I do not 
know anything about Jailbreaking, Billy


- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone


I didn't know if that would be allowed on list.  by all means if it is let's
talk about it on list.Are there companies or services that will do it or
is that not necessary?  understand I would be coming from android thus the
question.  sorry in advance for so many questions.
- Original Message - 
From: Broxi72 william.ingli...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:34 AM
Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone


Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy
- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:31 AM
Subject: jail breaking a iphone


could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone?
dennisl1...@gmail.com

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Re: jail breaking a iphone

2014-05-29 Thread David Chittenden
Jailbreaking became an acceptable topic when it was determined that 
Jailbreaking is legal. Before that time, talking about Jailbreaking was against 
the list rules. 

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 On 29 May 2014, at 13:08, Christopher J Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I agree with Sieghard. I haven't seen anyone discourage the discussion of 
 jail breaking on the list. I went looking for an old message from the owner 
 or the moderator of the list on whether discussing jail breaking is 
 permitted, and I couldn't find anything, but I'm pretty sure they've never 
 tried to squash any discussion on jail breaking. The moderator also used to 
 jail break his phone, but I'm not sure if he's still doing that or not.
 
 I think it's perfectly OK to point to Google or podcasts when someone asks a 
 question. I've seen people point to Google, AppleVis or podcasts on numerous 
 subjects, such as using a bluetooth keyboard, different navigation apps and 
 so on. If I see a question go unanswered, and I think I can help by pointing 
 to a podcast or a web page on a topic I'm not personally well versed with 
 then I'll do that, and I don't think there's a problem with that.
 
 I think it's more likely that there just aren't a lot of people on the list 
 who jail break anymore. I jail broke my phone when I was running IOS 5, but I 
 haven't jail broken it since then. I didn't want to wait to move up to newer 
 versions of IOS, and one of my most important apps wouldn't run on a jail 
 broken iPhone.
 
 On 5/28/2014 8:59 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
 Hi Pablo,
 
 I don't think people avoid the topic of jailbreaking, but for most people on
 this list it is of little interest since they don't want to jailbreak. I,
 for example, may give a bit of general information about jailbreaking and
 point to a Podcast which goes into more detail because I know basically what
 Jailbreaking is and how it works, but I don't jailbreak. At the same time,
 if I see posts about Games on the list I delete them because I own 3 games
 and hardly ever play them. I think there is nothing wrong at all with
 providing information or links to Podcasts or articles where a person can
 get the information they need.
 In any case, if you are running iOS 7.1.1 you cannot jailbreak and there is
 a chance that you may never be able to jailbreak 7.1.1. The people who do
 the jailbreaks may very well focus on iOS 8 to which they will have access
 to as a Beta version after Apple's WWDC next Monday.
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Pablo Morales
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 1:45 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone
 
 Yes, it is that I have been saying. Why off list?
 It is a topic that should not be tried in the list?
 Why every time when somebody ask about this topic,  the people ask to do it
 off list.
 And please, don't respond me that are podcast where they talk about it,
 because are podcast for the rest of topics that we try here every day, but I
 don't see that kind of responses. Normally when somebody comes with a
 question, many people respond the question, no matter is the respond is
 available on google. The people always, respond. But for the jailbreaking,
 always the people walk around avoiding the topic.
 -Original Message- the topic.
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Broxi72
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:34 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone
 
 Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy
 - Original Message -
 From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:31 AM
 Subject: jail breaking a iphone
 
 
 could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone?
 dennisl1...@gmail.com
 
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Re: jail breaking a iphone

2014-05-29 Thread Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy
I'm considering whether to get my phone jail broken. I'd like to be able to 
install a Hebrew voice for VoiceOver. There are a few things stopping me 
though. First of all, I don't know much about it, what would happen to the 
warrantee for my two month old phone, or how risky jail breaking might be. I 
also would like to know whether Apple would be adding Hebrew support for 
VoiceOver, in which case, I'd rather wait til then. There was talk of apple 
doing this last September, but obviously, this didn't happen.

Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
Sent from my iPhone

 On May 29, 2014, at 13:15, Broxi72 william.ingli...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 hi Dennis, I'm also in the dark as far as Jailbreaking goes. I have an 
 iPhone4s and would really think about getting it Jailbroken, but I do not 
 know anything about Jailbreaking, Billy
 
 - Original Message - From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:59 PM
 Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone
 
 
 I didn't know if that would be allowed on list.  by all means if it is let's
 talk about it on list.Are there companies or services that will do it or
 is that not necessary?  understand I would be coming from android thus the
 question.  sorry in advance for so many questions.
 - Original Message - From: Broxi72 william.ingli...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:34 AM
 Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone
 
 
 Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy
 - Original Message - From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:31 AM
 Subject: jail breaking a iphone
 
 
 could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone?
 dennisl1...@gmail.com
 
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Re: jail breaking a iphone

2014-05-29 Thread Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy
Is it legal outside North America?

Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
Sent from my iPhone

 On May 29, 2014, at 13:34, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Jailbreaking became an acceptable topic when it was determined that 
 Jailbreaking is legal. Before that time, talking about Jailbreaking was 
 against the list rules. 
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 29 May 2014, at 13:08, Christopher J Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I agree with Sieghard. I haven't seen anyone discourage the discussion of 
 jail breaking on the list. I went looking for an old message from the owner 
 or the moderator of the list on whether discussing jail breaking is 
 permitted, and I couldn't find anything, but I'm pretty sure they've never 
 tried to squash any discussion on jail breaking. The moderator also used to 
 jail break his phone, but I'm not sure if he's still doing that or not.
 
 I think it's perfectly OK to point to Google or podcasts when someone asks a 
 question. I've seen people point to Google, AppleVis or podcasts on numerous 
 subjects, such as using a bluetooth keyboard, different navigation apps and 
 so on. If I see a question go unanswered, and I think I can help by pointing 
 to a podcast or a web page on a topic I'm not personally well versed with 
 then I'll do that, and I don't think there's a problem with that.
 
 I think it's more likely that there just aren't a lot of people on the list 
 who jail break anymore. I jail broke my phone when I was running IOS 5, but 
 I haven't jail broken it since then. I didn't want to wait to move up to 
 newer versions of IOS, and one of my most important apps wouldn't run on a 
 jail broken iPhone.
 
 On 5/28/2014 8:59 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
 Hi Pablo,
 
 I don't think people avoid the topic of jailbreaking, but for most people on
 this list it is of little interest since they don't want to jailbreak. I,
 for example, may give a bit of general information about jailbreaking and
 point to a Podcast which goes into more detail because I know basically what
 Jailbreaking is and how it works, but I don't jailbreak. At the same time,
 if I see posts about Games on the list I delete them because I own 3 games
 and hardly ever play them. I think there is nothing wrong at all with
 providing information or links to Podcasts or articles where a person can
 get the information they need.
 In any case, if you are running iOS 7.1.1 you cannot jailbreak and there is
 a chance that you may never be able to jailbreak 7.1.1. The people who do
 the jailbreaks may very well focus on iOS 8 to which they will have access
 to as a Beta version after Apple's WWDC next Monday.
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Pablo Morales
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 1:45 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone
 
 Yes, it is that I have been saying. Why off list?
 It is a topic that should not be tried in the list?
 Why every time when somebody ask about this topic,  the people ask to do it
 off list.
 And please, don't respond me that are podcast where they talk about it,
 because are podcast for the rest of topics that we try here every day, but I
 don't see that kind of responses. Normally when somebody comes with a
 question, many people respond the question, no matter is the respond is
 available on google. The people always, respond. But for the jailbreaking,
 always the people walk around avoiding the topic.
 -Original Message- the topic.
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Broxi72
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:34 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone
 
 Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy
 - Original Message -
 From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:31 AM
 Subject: jail breaking a iphone
 
 
 could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone?
 dennisl1...@gmail.com
 
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 Chaltain at Gmail
 
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RE: jail breaking a iphone

2014-05-29 Thread Tracy Smith
Hi
I've jailbroken my phone, and I like it better that way, although I agree
that with iOS7 the reasons to jailbreak become less and less.
You can find out how and get the software needed from www.evasi0n.com.
I guess most of the apps and tweaks I get are to circumvent iTunes, which I
don't like.
Once jailbroken, iTunes and app store and everything still works fine. You
get another app store, Cydia, where you can download jailbreak apps and
tweaks.
My favourite tweaks are AnyRing, which lets you use any music file as a
ringtone or SMS tone.
AirBlue Sharing which fixes one of my main irks with iOS: To be able to send
files to any Bluetooth-enabled phone or PC.
Bridge, which allows you to put downloaded files straight into your iTunes
library.
Not to mention Safari Download Enabler, which does what its name implies.
iFile too.
There are others, but I can't think of them right now.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Broxi72
Sent: 29 May 2014 11:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone

hi Pablo, I totally agree, let's discuss it right here, Billy

- Original Message - 
From: Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 9:45 AM
Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone


Yes, it is that I have been saying. Why off list?
It is a topic that should not be tried in the list?
Why every time when somebody ask about this topic,  the people ask to do it
off list.
And please, don't respond me that are podcast where they talk about it,
because are podcast for the rest of topics that we try here every day, but I
don't see that kind of responses. Normally when somebody comes with a
question, many people respond the question, no matter is the respond is
available on google. The people always, respond. But for the jailbreaking,
always the people walk around avoiding the topic.
-Original Message- the topic.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Broxi72
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone

Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy
- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:31 AM
Subject: jail breaking a iphone


could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone?
dennisl1...@gmail.com

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Re: jail breaking a iphone

2014-05-29 Thread Broxi72

hi Tracy, what phone have you gotten jailbroken?.
And was it running IOS 7 By any chance?.
Any Idea how i check to find out if my 4s is unlocked?, Billy

- Original Message - 
From: Tracy Smith trasle...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 11:54 AM
Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone


Hi
I've jailbroken my phone, and I like it better that way, although I agree
that with iOS7 the reasons to jailbreak become less and less.
You can find out how and get the software needed from www.evasi0n.com.
I guess most of the apps and tweaks I get are to circumvent iTunes, which I
don't like.
Once jailbroken, iTunes and app store and everything still works fine. You
get another app store, Cydia, where you can download jailbreak apps and
tweaks.
My favourite tweaks are AnyRing, which lets you use any music file as a
ringtone or SMS tone.
AirBlue Sharing which fixes one of my main irks with iOS: To be able to send
files to any Bluetooth-enabled phone or PC.
Bridge, which allows you to put downloaded files straight into your iTunes
library.
Not to mention Safari Download Enabler, which does what its name implies.
iFile too.
There are others, but I can't think of them right now.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Broxi72
Sent: 29 May 2014 11:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone

hi Pablo, I totally agree, let's discuss it right here, Billy

- Original Message - 
From: Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 9:45 AM
Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone


Yes, it is that I have been saying. Why off list?
It is a topic that should not be tried in the list?
Why every time when somebody ask about this topic,  the people ask to do it
off list.
And please, don't respond me that are podcast where they talk about it,
because are podcast for the rest of topics that we try here every day, but I
don't see that kind of responses. Normally when somebody comes with a
question, many people respond the question, no matter is the respond is
available on google. The people always, respond. But for the jailbreaking,
always the people walk around avoiding the topic.
-Original Message- the topic.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Broxi72
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone

Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy
- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:31 AM
Subject: jail breaking a iphone


could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone?
dennisl1...@gmail.com

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RE: jail breaking a iphone

2014-05-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hello Haya,

According to Apple you will void your warranty if you jailbreak your phone.
Of course, if you jailbreak and something happens you could always
unjailbreak the phone again provided of course the phone works to the
point where you can do that.

Also, what version of iOS are  you on? Did you upgrade to 7.1 or 7.1.1? If
so youa re out of luck anyways as the latest jailbreak can only be done with
phones running iOS 7.04 or lower.

I guess you should be able to find out relatively soon whether Hebrew will
be included in iOS 8. Apple will be offering a live stream of their world
wide developer conference event on Monday at the following link:

https://www.apple.com/apple-events/june-2014

The event starts at 10 AM Pacific Time which would be at 8 PM israeli time
for you.
It is, of course, unlikely they mention all the small details during the iOS
8 announcement and I think additional Voiceover languages might be
considered a small detail, but there may very well be something in the
announcement regarding accessibility in general and Voiceover in particular
if there are major new features coming.

Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 3:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone

I'm considering whether to get my phone jail broken. I'd like to be able to
install a Hebrew voice for VoiceOver. There are a few things stopping me
though. First of all, I don't know much about it, what would happen to the
warrantee for my two month old phone, or how risky jail breaking might be. I
also would like to know whether Apple would be adding Hebrew support for
VoiceOver, in which case, I'd rather wait til then. There was talk of apple
doing this last September, but obviously, this didn't happen.

Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
Sent from my iPhone

 On May 29, 2014, at 13:15, Broxi72 william.ingli...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 hi Dennis, I'm also in the dark as far as Jailbreaking goes. I have an 
 iPhone4s and would really think about getting it Jailbroken, but I do 
 not know anything about Jailbreaking, Billy
 
 - Original Message - From: Dennis Long 
 dennisl1...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:59 PM
 Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone
 
 
 I didn't know if that would be allowed on list.  by all means if it is
let's
 talk about it on list.Are there companies or services that will do it
or
 is that not necessary?  understand I would be coming from android thus 
 the question.  sorry in advance for so many questions.
 - Original Message - From: Broxi72 
 william.ingli...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:34 AM
 Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone
 
 
 Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, 
 Billy
 - Original Message - From: Dennis Long 
 dennisl1...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:31 AM
 Subject: jail breaking a iphone
 
 
 could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone?
 dennisl1...@gmail.com
 
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RE: jail breaking a iphone

2014-05-29 Thread Tracy Smith
I jailbroke my iPhone 5S, which was running iOS 7.0.3 when I did it. My
brother's iPhone 4 running the same software was jailbroken in the same way.
I don't know how to check whether your phone is unlocked, but maybe if you
put another carrier's sim card in it will tell you. You won't be able to
make calls, etc.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Broxi72
Sent: 29 May 2014 01:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone

hi Tracy, what phone have you gotten jailbroken?.
And was it running IOS 7 By any chance?.
Any Idea how i check to find out if my 4s is unlocked?, Billy

- Original Message - 
From: Tracy Smith trasle...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 11:54 AM
Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone


Hi
I've jailbroken my phone, and I like it better that way, although I agree
that with iOS7 the reasons to jailbreak become less and less.
You can find out how and get the software needed from www.evasi0n.com.
I guess most of the apps and tweaks I get are to circumvent iTunes, which I
don't like.
Once jailbroken, iTunes and app store and everything still works fine. You
get another app store, Cydia, where you can download jailbreak apps and
tweaks.
My favourite tweaks are AnyRing, which lets you use any music file as a
ringtone or SMS tone.
AirBlue Sharing which fixes one of my main irks with iOS: To be able to send
files to any Bluetooth-enabled phone or PC.
Bridge, which allows you to put downloaded files straight into your iTunes
library.
Not to mention Safari Download Enabler, which does what its name implies.
iFile too.
There are others, but I can't think of them right now.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Broxi72
Sent: 29 May 2014 11:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone

hi Pablo, I totally agree, let's discuss it right here, Billy

- Original Message - 
From: Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 9:45 AM
Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone


Yes, it is that I have been saying. Why off list?
It is a topic that should not be tried in the list?
Why every time when somebody ask about this topic,  the people ask to do it
off list.
And please, don't respond me that are podcast where they talk about it,
because are podcast for the rest of topics that we try here every day, but I
don't see that kind of responses. Normally when somebody comes with a
question, many people respond the question, no matter is the respond is
available on google. The people always, respond. But for the jailbreaking,
always the people walk around avoiding the topic.
-Original Message- the topic.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Broxi72
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone

Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy
- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:31 AM
Subject: jail breaking a iphone


could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone?
dennisl1...@gmail.com

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RE: jail breaking a iphone

2014-05-29 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Billy,

What version of iOS are you on?

Also, only way to see if your phone is unlocked is to put in the SIM of a
different provider and see if the phone works. However, if you bought the
phone on contract when it came out and you have never requested it to be
unlocked then it is not. Now that you are not under contract and I assume
since you have a 4S that you are not, you could request an official unlock
from your provider.


Regards,
Sieghard

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Broxi72
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 4:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone

hi Tracy, what phone have you gotten jailbroken?.
And was it running IOS 7 By any chance?.
Any Idea how i check to find out if my 4s is unlocked?, Billy

- Original Message - 
From: Tracy Smith trasle...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 11:54 AM
Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone


Hi
I've jailbroken my phone, and I like it better that way, although I agree
that with iOS7 the reasons to jailbreak become less and less.
You can find out how and get the software needed from www.evasi0n.com.
I guess most of the apps and tweaks I get are to circumvent iTunes, which I
don't like.
Once jailbroken, iTunes and app store and everything still works fine. You
get another app store, Cydia, where you can download jailbreak apps and
tweaks.
My favourite tweaks are AnyRing, which lets you use any music file as a
ringtone or SMS tone.
AirBlue Sharing which fixes one of my main irks with iOS: To be able to send
files to any Bluetooth-enabled phone or PC.
Bridge, which allows you to put downloaded files straight into your iTunes
library.
Not to mention Safari Download Enabler, which does what its name implies.
iFile too.
There are others, but I can't think of them right now.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Broxi72
Sent: 29 May 2014 11:41 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone

hi Pablo, I totally agree, let's discuss it right here, Billy

- Original Message - 
From: Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 9:45 AM
Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone


Yes, it is that I have been saying. Why off list?
It is a topic that should not be tried in the list?
Why every time when somebody ask about this topic,  the people ask to do it
off list.
And please, don't respond me that are podcast where they talk about it,
because are podcast for the rest of topics that we try here every day, but I
don't see that kind of responses. Normally when somebody comes with a
question, many people respond the question, no matter is the respond is
available on google. The people always, respond. But for the jailbreaking,
always the people walk around avoiding the topic.
-Original Message- the topic.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Broxi72
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone

Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy
- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:31 AM
Subject: jail breaking a iphone


could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone?
dennisl1...@gmail.com

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Re: jail breaking a iphone

2014-05-29 Thread Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy
I have iOS 7.1.1, so I guess I couldn't jailbreak the phone anyhow. Thanks for 
the info and the link. I assume that anything related to accessibility will be 
posted to the list. Am I correct?

Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
Sent from my iPhone

 On May 29, 2014, at 14:32, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hello Haya,
 
 According to Apple you will void your warranty if you jailbreak your phone.
 Of course, if you jailbreak and something happens you could always
 unjailbreak the phone again provided of course the phone works to the
 point where you can do that.
 
 Also, what version of iOS are  you on? Did you upgrade to 7.1 or 7.1.1? If
 so youa re out of luck anyways as the latest jailbreak can only be done with
 phones running iOS 7.04 or lower.
 
 I guess you should be able to find out relatively soon whether Hebrew will
 be included in iOS 8. Apple will be offering a live stream of their world
 wide developer conference event on Monday at the following link:
 
 https://www.apple.com/apple-events/june-2014
 
 The event starts at 10 AM Pacific Time which would be at 8 PM israeli time
 for you.
 It is, of course, unlikely they mention all the small details during the iOS
 8 announcement and I think additional Voiceover languages might be
 considered a small detail, but there may very well be something in the
 announcement regarding accessibility in general and Voiceover in particular
 if there are major new features coming.
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
 Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 3:37 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone
 
 I'm considering whether to get my phone jail broken. I'd like to be able to
 install a Hebrew voice for VoiceOver. There are a few things stopping me
 though. First of all, I don't know much about it, what would happen to the
 warrantee for my two month old phone, or how risky jail breaking might be. I
 also would like to know whether Apple would be adding Hebrew support for
 VoiceOver, in which case, I'd rather wait til then. There was talk of apple
 doing this last September, but obviously, this didn't happen.
 
 Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 29, 2014, at 13:15, Broxi72 william.ingli...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 hi Dennis, I'm also in the dark as far as Jailbreaking goes. I have an 
 iPhone4s and would really think about getting it Jailbroken, but I do 
 not know anything about Jailbreaking, Billy
 
 - Original Message - From: Dennis Long 
 dennisl1...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:59 PM
 Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone
 
 
 I didn't know if that would be allowed on list.  by all means if it is
 let's
 talk about it on list.Are there companies or services that will do it
 or
 is that not necessary?  understand I would be coming from android thus 
 the question.  sorry in advance for so many questions.
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 Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, 
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Re: jail breaking a iphone

2014-05-29 Thread Broxi72

hi Tracy, thanks for the help and advice, Billy

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Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:30 PM
Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone


I jailbroke my iPhone 5S, which was running iOS 7.0.3 when I did it. My
brother's iPhone 4 running the same software was jailbroken in the same way.
I don't know how to check whether your phone is unlocked, but maybe if you
put another carrier's sim card in it will tell you. You won't be able to
make calls, etc.
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Sent: 29 May 2014 01:19 PM
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hi Tracy, what phone have you gotten jailbroken?.
And was it running IOS 7 By any chance?.
Any Idea how i check to find out if my 4s is unlocked?, Billy

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 11:54 AM
Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone


Hi
I've jailbroken my phone, and I like it better that way, although I agree
that with iOS7 the reasons to jailbreak become less and less.
You can find out how and get the software needed from www.evasi0n.com.
I guess most of the apps and tweaks I get are to circumvent iTunes, which I
don't like.
Once jailbroken, iTunes and app store and everything still works fine. You
get another app store, Cydia, where you can download jailbreak apps and
tweaks.
My favourite tweaks are AnyRing, which lets you use any music file as a
ringtone or SMS tone.
AirBlue Sharing which fixes one of my main irks with iOS: To be able to send
files to any Bluetooth-enabled phone or PC.
Bridge, which allows you to put downloaded files straight into your iTunes
library.
Not to mention Safari Download Enabler, which does what its name implies.
iFile too.
There are others, but I can't think of them right now.
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Sent: 29 May 2014 11:41 AM
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Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone

hi Pablo, I totally agree, let's discuss it right here, Billy

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 9:45 AM
Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone


Yes, it is that I have been saying. Why off list?
It is a topic that should not be tried in the list?
Why every time when somebody ask about this topic,  the people ask to do it
off list.
And please, don't respond me that are podcast where they talk about it,
because are podcast for the rest of topics that we try here every day, but I
don't see that kind of responses. Normally when somebody comes with a
question, many people respond the question, no matter is the respond is
available on google. The people always, respond. But for the jailbreaking,
always the people walk around avoiding the topic.
-Original Message- the topic.
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Of Broxi72
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone

Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy
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2014-05-29 Thread Broxi72
Sieghard, I will check the IOS later. I purcchased the phone second hand 
from a mobile phone store locally, Billy


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Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:37 PM
Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone


Billy,

What version of iOS are you on?

Also, only way to see if your phone is unlocked is to put in the SIM of a
different provider and see if the phone works. However, if you bought the
phone on contract when it came out and you have never requested it to be
unlocked then it is not. Now that you are not under contract and I assume
since you have a 4S that you are not, you could request an official unlock
from your provider.


Regards,
Sieghard

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hi Tracy, what phone have you gotten jailbroken?.
And was it running IOS 7 By any chance?.
Any Idea how i check to find out if my 4s is unlocked?, Billy

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From: Tracy Smith trasle...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 11:54 AM
Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone


Hi
I've jailbroken my phone, and I like it better that way, although I agree
that with iOS7 the reasons to jailbreak become less and less.
You can find out how and get the software needed from www.evasi0n.com.
I guess most of the apps and tweaks I get are to circumvent iTunes, which I
don't like.
Once jailbroken, iTunes and app store and everything still works fine. You
get another app store, Cydia, where you can download jailbreak apps and
tweaks.
My favourite tweaks are AnyRing, which lets you use any music file as a
ringtone or SMS tone.
AirBlue Sharing which fixes one of my main irks with iOS: To be able to send
files to any Bluetooth-enabled phone or PC.
Bridge, which allows you to put downloaded files straight into your iTunes
library.
Not to mention Safari Download Enabler, which does what its name implies.
iFile too.
There are others, but I can't think of them right now.
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Of Broxi72
Sent: 29 May 2014 11:41 AM
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Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone

hi Pablo, I totally agree, let's discuss it right here, Billy

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 9:45 AM
Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone


Yes, it is that I have been saying. Why off list?
It is a topic that should not be tried in the list?
Why every time when somebody ask about this topic,  the people ask to do it
off list.
And please, don't respond me that are podcast where they talk about it,
because are podcast for the rest of topics that we try here every day, but I
don't see that kind of responses. Normally when somebody comes with a
question, many people respond the question, no matter is the respond is
available on google. The people always, respond. But for the jailbreaking,
always the people walk around avoiding the topic.
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Of Broxi72
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Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone

Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy
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Re: jail breaking a iphone

2014-05-28 Thread Joseph Hudson
Hello Dennis, you don't have to be jailbroken to go to a different company, you 
just have to have a GSM operating phone. Which most companies are. Verizon and 
Sprint are the only ones that are not so thought I would just point that out. 
Just out of curiosity which company are you thinking of going with?

Sent from my iPhone

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 because I don't want to be limited by a company.  I want as much access to a 
 phone as possible.
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 Hi Dennis,
 
 There was a very nice Podcast about how to Jailbreak on Applevis just last
 week I think or maybe it was within the last 2 weeks. I recommend you go to
 www.Applevis.com and check it out.
 
 Just out of curiocity, what is your reason why you feel the need to
 jailbreak?
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
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Re: jail breaking a iphone

2014-05-28 Thread Dennis Long

I want all features of my phone.  I am thinking of going with straight talk.
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Hello Dennis, you don't have to be jailbroken to go to a different company, 
you just have to have a GSM operating phone. Which most companies are. 
Verizon and Sprint are the only ones that are not so thought I would just 
point that out. Just out of curiosity which company are you thinking of 
going with?


Sent from my iPhone


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because I don't want to be limited by a company.  I want as much access to 
a phone as possible.

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Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone


Hi Dennis,

There was a very nice Podcast about how to Jailbreak on Applevis just last
week I think or maybe it was within the last 2 weeks. I recommend you go 
to

www.Applevis.com and check it out.

Just out of curiocity, what is your reason why you feel the need to
jailbreak?


Regards,
Sieghard

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Re: jail breaking a iphone

2014-05-28 Thread Broxi72

Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy
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RE: jail breaking a iphone

2014-05-28 Thread Pablo Morales
Yes, it is that I have been saying. Why off list?
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Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy
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RE: jail breaking a iphone

2014-05-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Dennis,

You have all features of your phone, jailbreaking allows you to to more than
what Apple allows in some ways, but it may also make your phone more
unstabil, more prone to crashing depending on which jailbreak tweeks you
install and it may also make it less secure.
Keep in mind that Jailbreaking does not allow you to take a locked phone to
a different provider, for that you have to unlock your phone which has
nothing at all to do with jailbreaking.
Which phone do you have and are you still under contract? If you are still
in a 2-year contract and even if you get your phone unlocked, you could not
leave your current provider unless you continued to pay them for your
monthly plan or unless you paid whatever penalty they impose to cancel your
plan.
Remember that if you bought your phone at a discounted price from a company
like ATT, Verizon or a different provider, you did agree that you keep the
phone with them for 2 years at whatever plan you chose. They did after all
pay for a large portion of your phone and in return you commited to their
monthly plan for the 2 year period.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Of Dennis Long
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone

I want all features of my phone.  I am thinking of going with straight talk.
- Original Message - 
From: Joseph Hudson jhud7...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 2:22 AM
Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone


Hello Dennis, you don't have to be jailbroken to go to a different company, 
you just have to have a GSM operating phone. Which most companies are. 
Verizon and Sprint are the only ones that are not so thought I would just 
point that out. Just out of curiosity which company are you thinking of 
going with?

Sent from my iPhone

 On May 28, 2014, at 12:53 AM, Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com wrote:

 because I don't want to be limited by a company.  I want as much access to

 a phone as possible.
 - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 12:34 AM
 Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone


 Hi Dennis,

 There was a very nice Podcast about how to Jailbreak on Applevis just last
 week I think or maybe it was within the last 2 weeks. I recommend you go 
 to
 www.Applevis.com and check it out.

 Just out of curiocity, what is your reason why you feel the need to
 jailbreak?


 Regards,
 Sieghard

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RE: jail breaking a iphone

2014-05-28 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Pablo,

I don't think people avoid the topic of jailbreaking, but for most people on
this list it is of little interest since they don't want to jailbreak. I,
for example, may give a bit of general information about jailbreaking and
point to a Podcast which goes into more detail because I know basically what
Jailbreaking is and how it works, but I don't jailbreak. At the same time,
if I see posts about Games on the list I delete them because I own 3 games
and hardly ever play them. I think there is nothing wrong at all with
providing information or links to Podcasts or articles where a person can
get the information they need.
In any case, if you are running iOS 7.1.1 you cannot jailbreak and there is
a chance that you may never be able to jailbreak 7.1.1. The people who do
the jailbreaks may very well focus on iOS 8 to which they will have access
to as a Beta version after Apple's WWDC next Monday.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 1:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone

Yes, it is that I have been saying. Why off list?
It is a topic that should not be tried in the list?
Why every time when somebody ask about this topic,  the people ask to do it
off list. 
And please, don't respond me that are podcast where they talk about it,
because are podcast for the rest of topics that we try here every day, but I
don't see that kind of responses. Normally when somebody comes with a
question, many people respond the question, no matter is the respond is
available on google. The people always, respond. But for the jailbreaking,
always the people walk around avoiding the topic.
-Original Message- the topic.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Broxi72
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone

Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy
- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:31 AM
Subject: jail breaking a iphone


could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone?
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RE: jail breaking a iphone

2014-05-28 Thread Jerry Mader
IPhone 4S users?
Just curious.
Lol
Jerry Mader

Jerry Mader
 
Sent from my PC
 

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Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 9:59 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone

Hi Pablo,

I don't think people avoid the topic of jailbreaking, but for most people on
this list it is of little interest since they don't want to jailbreak. I,
for example, may give a bit of general information about jailbreaking and
point to a Podcast which goes into more detail because I know basically what
Jailbreaking is and how it works, but I don't jailbreak. At the same time,
if I see posts about Games on the list I delete them because I own 3 games
and hardly ever play them. I think there is nothing wrong at all with
providing information or links to Podcasts or articles where a person can
get the information they need.
In any case, if you are running iOS 7.1.1 you cannot jailbreak and there is
a chance that you may never be able to jailbreak 7.1.1. The people who do
the jailbreaks may very well focus on iOS 8 to which they will have access
to as a Beta version after Apple's WWDC next Monday.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Of Pablo Morales
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 1:45 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone

Yes, it is that I have been saying. Why off list?
It is a topic that should not be tried in the list?
Why every time when somebody ask about this topic,  the people ask to do it
off list. 
And please, don't respond me that are podcast where they talk about it,
because are podcast for the rest of topics that we try here every day, but I
don't see that kind of responses. Normally when somebody comes with a
question, many people respond the question, no matter is the respond is
available on google. The people always, respond. But for the jailbreaking,
always the people walk around avoiding the topic.
-Original Message- the topic.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Broxi72
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone

Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy
- Original Message - 
From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:31 AM
Subject: jail breaking a iphone


could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone?
dennisl1...@gmail.com

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Re: jail breaking a iphone

2014-05-28 Thread Teresa Cochran
I think people get confused when it comes to jailbreaking versus unlocking, 
neither of which are illegal. Jailbreaking sounds illegal, so people think it's 
a taboo topic, but it is not. Unlocking is tricky, and you have to know what 
you are going to do once you unlock, or you won't get any phone service. 
Jailbreaking and unlocking are unrelated to each other, as Sieghard has pointed 
out.

Whether you can jailbreak depends mostly on the iOS version, not on the phone 
model. If you're running version 6, for example you could probably jailbreak.

Teresa

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dark to read.--Groucho Marx

On May 28, 2014, at 7:04 AM, Jerry Mader managem...@maderradio.net wrote:

 IPhone 4S users?
 Just curious.
 Lol
 Jerry Mader
 
 Jerry Mader
 
 Sent from my PC
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Sieghard Weitzel
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 9:59 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone
 
 Hi Pablo,
 
 I don't think people avoid the topic of jailbreaking, but for most people on
 this list it is of little interest since they don't want to jailbreak. I,
 for example, may give a bit of general information about jailbreaking and
 point to a Podcast which goes into more detail because I know basically what
 Jailbreaking is and how it works, but I don't jailbreak. At the same time,
 if I see posts about Games on the list I delete them because I own 3 games
 and hardly ever play them. I think there is nothing wrong at all with
 providing information or links to Podcasts or articles where a person can
 get the information they need.
 In any case, if you are running iOS 7.1.1 you cannot jailbreak and there is
 a chance that you may never be able to jailbreak 7.1.1. The people who do
 the jailbreaks may very well focus on iOS 8 to which they will have access
 to as a Beta version after Apple's WWDC next Monday.
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Pablo Morales
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 1:45 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone
 
 Yes, it is that I have been saying. Why off list?
 It is a topic that should not be tried in the list?
 Why every time when somebody ask about this topic,  the people ask to do it
 off list. 
 And please, don't respond me that are podcast where they talk about it,
 because are podcast for the rest of topics that we try here every day, but I
 don't see that kind of responses. Normally when somebody comes with a
 question, many people respond the question, no matter is the respond is
 available on google. The people always, respond. But for the jailbreaking,
 always the people walk around avoiding the topic.
 -Original Message- the topic.
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Broxi72
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:34 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone
 
 Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy
 - Original Message - 
 From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:31 AM
 Subject: jail breaking a iphone
 
 
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Re: jail breaking a iphone

2014-05-28 Thread Dennis Long
I am aware that it's not the same as unlocking.  I am considering getting an 
iphone.  I'm trying to get any and all questions answered first.


- Original Message - 
From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 9:53 AM
Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone


Hi Dennis,

You have all features of your phone, jailbreaking allows you to to more than
what Apple allows in some ways, but it may also make your phone more
unstabil, more prone to crashing depending on which jailbreak tweeks you
install and it may also make it less secure.
Keep in mind that Jailbreaking does not allow you to take a locked phone to
a different provider, for that you have to unlock your phone which has
nothing at all to do with jailbreaking.
Which phone do you have and are you still under contract? If you are still
in a 2-year contract and even if you get your phone unlocked, you could not
leave your current provider unless you continued to pay them for your
monthly plan or unless you paid whatever penalty they impose to cancel your
plan.
Remember that if you bought your phone at a discounted price from a company
like ATT, Verizon or a different provider, you did agree that you keep the
phone with them for 2 years at whatever plan you chose. They did after all
pay for a large portion of your phone and in return you commited to their
monthly plan for the 2 year period.


Regards,
Sieghard

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Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone

I want all features of my phone.  I am thinking of going with straight talk.
- Original Message - 
From: Joseph Hudson jhud7...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 2:22 AM
Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone


Hello Dennis, you don't have to be jailbroken to go to a different company,
you just have to have a GSM operating phone. Which most companies are.
Verizon and Sprint are the only ones that are not so thought I would just
point that out. Just out of curiosity which company are you thinking of
going with?

Sent from my iPhone


On May 28, 2014, at 12:53 AM, Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com wrote:

because I don't want to be limited by a company.  I want as much access to



a phone as possible.
- Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 12:34 AM
Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone


Hi Dennis,

There was a very nice Podcast about how to Jailbreak on Applevis just last
week I think or maybe it was within the last 2 weeks. I recommend you go
to
www.Applevis.com and check it out.

Just out of curiocity, what is your reason why you feel the need to
jailbreak?


Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: jail breaking a iphone

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Re: jail breaking a iphone

2014-05-28 Thread Dennis Long
I didn't know if that would be allowed on list.  by all means if it is let's 
talk about it on list.Are there companies or services that will do it or 
is that not necessary?  understand I would be coming from android thus the 
question.  sorry in advance for so many questions.
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Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy
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Re: jail breaking a iphone

2014-05-28 Thread Christopher J Chaltain
I agree with Sieghard. I haven't seen anyone discourage the discussion 
of jail breaking on the list. I went looking for an old message from the 
owner or the moderator of the list on whether discussing jail breaking 
is permitted, and I couldn't find anything, but I'm pretty sure they've 
never tried to squash any discussion on jail breaking. The moderator 
also used to jail break his phone, but I'm not sure if he's still doing 
that or not.


I think it's perfectly OK to point to Google or podcasts when someone 
asks a question. I've seen people point to Google, AppleVis or podcasts 
on numerous subjects, such as using a bluetooth keyboard, different 
navigation apps and so on. If I see a question go unanswered, and I 
think I can help by pointing to a podcast or a web page on a topic I'm 
not personally well versed with then I'll do that, and I don't think 
there's a problem with that.


I think it's more likely that there just aren't a lot of people on the 
list who jail break anymore. I jail broke my phone when I was running 
IOS 5, but I haven't jail broken it since then. I didn't want to wait to 
move up to newer versions of IOS, and one of my most important apps 
wouldn't run on a jail broken iPhone.


On 5/28/2014 8:59 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Hi Pablo,

I don't think people avoid the topic of jailbreaking, but for most people on
this list it is of little interest since they don't want to jailbreak. I,
for example, may give a bit of general information about jailbreaking and
point to a Podcast which goes into more detail because I know basically what
Jailbreaking is and how it works, but I don't jailbreak. At the same time,
if I see posts about Games on the list I delete them because I own 3 games
and hardly ever play them. I think there is nothing wrong at all with
providing information or links to Podcasts or articles where a person can
get the information they need.
In any case, if you are running iOS 7.1.1 you cannot jailbreak and there is
a chance that you may never be able to jailbreak 7.1.1. The people who do
the jailbreaks may very well focus on iOS 8 to which they will have access
to as a Beta version after Apple's WWDC next Monday.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone

Yes, it is that I have been saying. Why off list?
It is a topic that should not be tried in the list?
Why every time when somebody ask about this topic,  the people ask to do it
off list.
And please, don't respond me that are podcast where they talk about it,
because are podcast for the rest of topics that we try here every day, but I
don't see that kind of responses. Normally when somebody comes with a
question, many people respond the question, no matter is the respond is
available on google. The people always, respond. But for the jailbreaking,
always the people walk around avoiding the topic.
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Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy
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how to cancel contract with carrier was Re: jail breaking a iphone

2014-05-28 Thread Joseph Hudson
Hello Seacord, as you are so correct I do have to correct you on one thing. 
That is regarding contracts and phone carriers. As I just watched from Sprint 
to ATT, this is the way I did it without paying the penalty fee on my current 
contract. I went to ATT purchased my phone, contacted Sprint called and the 
reason why I switched and will be sending my phone back and sending the phone 
back apparently is supposed to cover the penalty fee on the contract. As my 
brother has already got his sent back and should be credited this month and 
mine will post on the account this month coming up and then they will allow me 
to send mine back. Then the following month munch be credited.

Sent from my iPhone

 On May 28, 2014, at 8:53 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote:
 
 Hi Dennis,
 
 You have all features of your phone, jailbreaking allows you to to more than
 what Apple allows in some ways, but it may also make your phone more
 unstabil, more prone to crashing depending on which jailbreak tweeks you
 install and it may also make it less secure.
 Keep in mind that Jailbreaking does not allow you to take a locked phone to
 a different provider, for that you have to unlock your phone which has
 nothing at all to do with jailbreaking.
 Which phone do you have and are you still under contract? If you are still
 in a 2-year contract and even if you get your phone unlocked, you could not
 leave your current provider unless you continued to pay them for your
 monthly plan or unless you paid whatever penalty they impose to cancel your
 plan.
 Remember that if you bought your phone at a discounted price from a company
 like ATT, Verizon or a different provider, you did agree that you keep the
 phone with them for 2 years at whatever plan you chose. They did after all
 pay for a large portion of your phone and in return you commited to their
 monthly plan for the 2 year period.
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Dennis Long
 Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:34 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone
 
 I want all features of my phone.  I am thinking of going with straight talk.
 - Original Message - 
 From: Joseph Hudson jhud7...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 2:22 AM
 Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone
 
 
 Hello Dennis, you don't have to be jailbroken to go to a different company, 
 you just have to have a GSM operating phone. Which most companies are. 
 Verizon and Sprint are the only ones that are not so thought I would just 
 point that out. Just out of curiosity which company are you thinking of 
 going with?
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 28, 2014, at 12:53 AM, Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 because I don't want to be limited by a company.  I want as much access to
 
 a phone as possible.
 - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 12:34 AM
 Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone
 
 
 Hi Dennis,
 
 There was a very nice Podcast about how to Jailbreak on Applevis just last
 week I think or maybe it was within the last 2 weeks. I recommend you go 
 to
 www.Applevis.com and check it out.
 
 Just out of curiocity, what is your reason why you feel the need to
 jailbreak?
 
 
 Regards,
 Sieghard
 
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RE: jail breaking a iphone

2014-05-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Dennis,

There was a very nice Podcast about how to Jailbreak on Applevis just last
week I think or maybe it was within the last 2 weeks. I recommend you go to
www.Applevis.com and check it out.

Just out of curiocity, what is your reason why you feel the need to
jailbreak?


Regards,
Sieghard

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Re: jail breaking a iphone

2014-05-27 Thread Dave Mitchel

what is jail breaking?
just curious!

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Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone

Hi Dennis,

There was a very nice Podcast about how to Jailbreak on Applevis just last
week I think or maybe it was within the last 2 weeks. I recommend you go to
www.Applevis.com and check it out.

Just out of curiocity, what is your reason why you feel the need to
jailbreak?


Regards,
Sieghard

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RE: jail breaking a iphone

2014-05-27 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Dave,

If you do a Google search for exactly what you asked in your message What
is jailbreaking, the first search result is a very nice Wikipedia article
which explains it much better than I could. The abstract is this:

iOS jailbreaking is the process of removing limitations on iOS, Apple's
operating system on devices running it through the use of software and
hardware exploits; ...

If you have a SIRI capable iOS device, you could even simply ask Search
Wikipedia for Jailbreaking and it would come up with the same article ad
ask you if you wanted it to be read out.


Regards,
Sieghardd

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Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:37 PM
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Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone

what is jail breaking?
just curious!

-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone

Hi Dennis,

There was a very nice Podcast about how to Jailbreak on Applevis just last
week I think or maybe it was within the last 2 weeks. I recommend you go to
www.Applevis.com and check it out.

Just out of curiocity, what is your reason why you feel the need to
jailbreak?


Regards,
Sieghard

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Re: jail breaking a iphone

2014-05-27 Thread Dave Mitchel
thank you. I have heard it mentioned on here before and never understood 
what it was. I ask Ciri to get it for me.

thanks again

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From: Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:41 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone

Hi Dave,

If you do a Google search for exactly what you asked in your message What
is jailbreaking, the first search result is a very nice Wikipedia article
which explains it much better than I could. The abstract is this:

iOS jailbreaking is the process of removing limitations on iOS, Apple's
operating system on devices running it through the use of software and
hardware exploits; ...

If you have a SIRI capable iOS device, you could even simply ask Search
Wikipedia for Jailbreaking and it would come up with the same article ad
ask you if you wanted it to be read out.


Regards,
Sieghardd

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Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:37 PM
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Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone

what is jail breaking?
just curious!

-Original Message-
From: Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone

Hi Dennis,

There was a very nice Podcast about how to Jailbreak on Applevis just last
week I think or maybe it was within the last 2 weeks. I recommend you go to
www.Applevis.com and check it out.

Just out of curiocity, what is your reason why you feel the need to
jailbreak?


Regards,
Sieghard

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Re: jail breaking a iphone

2014-05-27 Thread Dennis Long
because I don't want to be limited by a company.  I want as much access to a 
phone as possible.
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Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 12:34 AM
Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone


Hi Dennis,

There was a very nice Podcast about how to Jailbreak on Applevis just last
week I think or maybe it was within the last 2 weeks. I recommend you go to
www.Applevis.com and check it out.

Just out of curiocity, what is your reason why you feel the need to
jailbreak?


Regards,
Sieghard

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jail breaking

2014-03-01 Thread Paul and Paula Jordan
I've heard that if you jail break your phone, you void any warrantees.  Is
that correct?

God bless!

Paula and Babe

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 12:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Iblindtech 58

 

How do you go about jail breaking the phone? If I do a factory reset do I
lose anything? When the phone comes up again will voiceover be on
automatically?

 

Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy

Sent from my iPhone

 

 On Mar 1, 2014, at 7:01, Teresa Cochran  mailto:batsfly...@me.com
batsfly...@me.com wrote:

 

 just to clarify a point; jailbreaking is legal. It's just not covered by a
warranty until you reset the phone to factory defaults or do a clean iOS
upgrade. I personally don't feel the need to do it, but it doesn't mean I
won't ever do it, and it doesn't mean it's a bad thing.

 

 Teresa

 

 Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.--Richard 

 P. Feynman

 

 On Feb 28, 2014, at 8:42 PM, Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy 
mailto:hayasim...@gmail.com hayasim...@gmail.com wrote:

 

 Thanks. Do you think it's worth it? Again, I'd lob any info about when
this voice comes out legally. I don't see why not since it too is a
Vocalizer Express voice just like the rest. My friends and I were expecting
it to be added to voiceover vac in the fall when iOS 7 was released. Boy
were we disappointed!

 

 That's the end of my Tirade. Thanks for bearing with me. :) Haya 

 Simkin  guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone

 

 On Mar 1, 2014, at 4:31, Hugo  mailto:hugo.galleg...@gmail.com
hugo.galleg...@gmail.com wrote:

 

 Hi!

 Cydia gets installed, when you jail break the phone, and iFile is $3.99
on Cydia.

 I did find Carmit, but you can only add this voice by jail breaking.

 

 - Original Message - From: Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy 

  mailto:hayasim...@gmail.com hayasim...@gmail.com

 To:  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com

 Cc:  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com

 Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:31 PM

 Subject: Re: Iblindtech 58

 

 

 Thanks for your info. If anyone knows when this voice will be added 

 in a legal way I'd be very glad to know. How do I find Cidia? Does 

 it or IFile cost?s

 

 Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy

 Sent from my iPhone

 

 On Feb 26, 2014, at 20:15, Hugo  mailto:hugo.galleg...@gmail.com
hugo.galleg...@gmail.com wrote:

 

 Hi Simkin , thank you for listening to the podcast.

 Ifile is an app for the Iphone that allows you to navigate through the
Iphone's file system, the app is sold in Cydia, which is a 3rd party app
store for IOS.

 When ever you have to restore your phone to factory settings, you will
be asked to disable Find my Iphone, in iCloudd.

 I will have to check for you to see if the Hebrew voices are available
in the vocalizer webpage for NVDA.

 I will write you back, when I find out about  those voices.

 Take care!

 - Original Message - From: Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy 

  mailto:hayasim...@gmail.com hayasim...@gmail.com

 To:  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com

 Cc:  mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com

 Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 6:22 PM

 Subject: Re: Iblindtech 58

 

 

 Hi,

 I liked your podcast. I had some questions though.

 1. What is ifile and how do I get it?

 2. What was that thing at the beginning about turning off Find My
iPhone?

 3. Can you or anyone else help me install the Hebrew Vocalizer  Express
voice Carmit? Incidentally, I don't know how to find the files for that
voice. Does anyone know how to find them? I would wait for it to actually be
added to VoiceOver if only I knew when that would be. Does anyone know when
that will be?

 

 Thanks for the info,

 

 Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy

 Sent from my iPhone

 

 On Feb 24, 2014, at 20:40, Victor Hugo Gallegos 
mailto:hugo.galleg...@gmail.com hugo.galleg...@gmail.com wrote:

 

 Hello everyone, i recorded a follow up podcast on jail breaking. The
link, and info is below.

 Hugo's back with another jail break episode. He shows us iSounds and
iFile. If you've ever wanted to use the new Siri voices for Voice Over, than
this is the episode. Take a listen.

  http://www.iblindtech.com/storage/iBT-058-JB2-TTS.mp3
http://www.iblindtech.com/storage/iBT-058-JB2-TTS.mp3 Link

 

 Sent from my iPhone

 

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Re: jail breaking

2014-03-01 Thread Eric Whitten
Yes.

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 1, 2014, at 6:20 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan pau...@roadrunner.com 
 wrote:
 
 I've heard that if you jail break your phone, you void any warrantees.  Is 
 that correct?
 God bless!
 Paula and Babe
  
  
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
 Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 12:10 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Iblindtech 58
  
 How do you go about jail breaking the phone? If I do a factory reset do I 
 lose anything? When the phone comes up again will voiceover be on 
 automatically?
  
 Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
 Sent from my iPhone
  
  On Mar 1, 2014, at 7:01, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
  just to clarify a point; jailbreaking is legal. It's just not covered by a 
  warranty until you reset the phone to factory defaults or do a clean iOS 
  upgrade. I personally don't feel the need to do it, but it doesn't mean I 
  won't ever do it, and it doesn't mean it's a bad thing.
 
  Teresa
 
  Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.--Richard
  P. Feynman
 
  On Feb 28, 2014, at 8:42 PM, Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy 
  hayasim...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Thanks. Do you think it's worth it? Again, I'd lob any info about when 
  this voice comes out legally. I don't see why not since it too is a 
  Vocalizer Express voice just like the rest. My friends and I were 
  expecting it to be added to voiceover vac in the fall when iOS 7 was 
  released. Boy were we disappointed!
 
  That's the end of my Tirade. Thanks for bearing with me. :) Haya
  Simkin  guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Mar 1, 2014, at 4:31, Hugo hugo.galleg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi!
  Cydia gets installed, when you jail break the phone, and iFile is $3.99 
  on Cydia.
  I did find Carmit, but you can only add this voice by jail breaking.
 
  - Original Message - From: Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
  hayasim...@gmail.com
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:31 PM
  Subject: Re: Iblindtech 58
 
 
  Thanks for your info. If anyone knows when this voice will be added
  in a legal way I'd be very glad to know. How do I find Cidia? Does
  it or IFile cost?s
 
  Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Feb 26, 2014, at 20:15, Hugo hugo.galleg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi Simkin , thank you for listening to the podcast.
  Ifile is an app for the Iphone that allows you to navigate through the 
  Iphone's file system, the app is sold in Cydia, which is a 3rd party app 
  store for IOS.
  When ever you have to restore your phone to factory settings, you will 
  be asked to disable Find my Iphone, in iCloudd.
  I will have to check for you to see if the Hebrew voices are available 
  in the vocalizer webpage for NVDA.
  I will write you back, when I find out about  those voices.
  Take care!
  - Original Message - From: Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
  hayasim...@gmail.com
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 6:22 PM
  Subject: Re: Iblindtech 58
 
 
  Hi,
  I liked your podcast. I had some questions though.
  1. What is ifile and how do I get it?
  2. What was that thing at the beginning about turning off Find My 
  iPhone?
  3. Can you or anyone else help me install the Hebrew Vocalizer  Express 
  voice Carmit? Incidentally, I don't know how to find the files for that 
  voice. Does anyone know how to find them? I would wait for it to 
  actually be added to VoiceOver if only I knew when that would be. Does 
  anyone know when that will be?
 
  Thanks for the info,
 
  Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Feb 24, 2014, at 20:40, Victor Hugo Gallegos 
  hugo.galleg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hello everyone, i recorded a follow up podcast on jail breaking. The 
  link, and info is below.
  Hugo's back with another jail break episode. He shows us iSounds and 
  iFile. If you've ever wanted to use the new Siri voices for Voice Over, 
  than this is the episode. Take a listen.
  http://www.iblindtech.com/storage/iBT-058-JB2-TTS.mp3 Link
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: jail breaking

2014-03-01 Thread Victor Hugo Gallegos
Yes, but as long as you restore to factory settings, before going to the apple 
store, it will be ok. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Mar 1, 2014, at 4:20 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan pau...@roadrunner.com 
 wrote:
 
 I've heard that if you jail break your phone, you void any warrantees.  Is 
 that correct?
 God bless!
 Paula and Babe
  
  
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
 Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 12:10 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Iblindtech 58
  
 How do you go about jail breaking the phone? If I do a factory reset do I 
 lose anything? When the phone comes up again will voiceover be on 
 automatically?
  
 Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
 Sent from my iPhone
  
  On Mar 1, 2014, at 7:01, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote:
 
  just to clarify a point; jailbreaking is legal. It's just not covered by a 
  warranty until you reset the phone to factory defaults or do a clean iOS 
  upgrade. I personally don't feel the need to do it, but it doesn't mean I 
  won't ever do it, and it doesn't mean it's a bad thing.
 
  Teresa
 
  Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.--Richard
  P. Feynman
 
  On Feb 28, 2014, at 8:42 PM, Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy 
  hayasim...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Thanks. Do you think it's worth it? Again, I'd lob any info about when 
  this voice comes out legally. I don't see why not since it too is a 
  Vocalizer Express voice just like the rest. My friends and I were 
  expecting it to be added to voiceover vac in the fall when iOS 7 was 
  released. Boy were we disappointed!
 
  That's the end of my Tirade. Thanks for bearing with me. :) Haya
  Simkin  guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Mar 1, 2014, at 4:31, Hugo hugo.galleg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi!
  Cydia gets installed, when you jail break the phone, and iFile is $3.99 
  on Cydia.
  I did find Carmit, but you can only add this voice by jail breaking.
 
  - Original Message - From: Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
  hayasim...@gmail.com
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:31 PM
  Subject: Re: Iblindtech 58
 
 
  Thanks for your info. If anyone knows when this voice will be added
  in a legal way I'd be very glad to know. How do I find Cidia? Does
  it or IFile cost?s
 
  Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Feb 26, 2014, at 20:15, Hugo hugo.galleg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi Simkin , thank you for listening to the podcast.
  Ifile is an app for the Iphone that allows you to navigate through the 
  Iphone's file system, the app is sold in Cydia, which is a 3rd party app 
  store for IOS.
  When ever you have to restore your phone to factory settings, you will 
  be asked to disable Find my Iphone, in iCloudd.
  I will have to check for you to see if the Hebrew voices are available 
  in the vocalizer webpage for NVDA.
  I will write you back, when I find out about  those voices.
  Take care!
  - Original Message - From: Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
  hayasim...@gmail.com
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 6:22 PM
  Subject: Re: Iblindtech 58
 
 
  Hi,
  I liked your podcast. I had some questions though.
  1. What is ifile and how do I get it?
  2. What was that thing at the beginning about turning off Find My 
  iPhone?
  3. Can you or anyone else help me install the Hebrew Vocalizer  Express 
  voice Carmit? Incidentally, I don't know how to find the files for that 
  voice. Does anyone know how to find them? I would wait for it to 
  actually be added to VoiceOver if only I knew when that would be. Does 
  anyone know when that will be?
 
  Thanks for the info,
 
  Haya Simkin  guide dog Pammy
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Feb 24, 2014, at 20:40, Victor Hugo Gallegos 
  hugo.galleg...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hello everyone, i recorded a follow up podcast on jail breaking. The 
  link, and info is below.
  Hugo's back with another jail break episode. He shows us iSounds and 
  iFile. If you've ever wanted to use the new Siri voices for Voice Over, 
  than this is the episode. Take a listen.
  http://www.iblindtech.com/storage/iBT-058-JB2-TTS.mp3 Link
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
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RE: Jail breaking latest Ios

2014-02-25 Thread HotScot72
hello Ben, hope you don't mind me asking here, but I have just purchased an
iPhone4s, and was thinking of jailbreaking it sometime.
Would you please consider helping me out?. 
If you are willing to help, please contact me.
email. william.ingli...@gmail.com
skype. bluey1972
FB. Broxi Bear
twitter. Ingy4

Billy9 

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Of Ben Mustill-Rose
Sent: 25 February 2014 00:58
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Jail breaking latest Ios

Hi,

Yes; same tool as for every other iOS 7 version.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 2/24/14, Eric Whitten whitten.e...@gmail.com wrote:
 Can u jail break Ios 706?

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Re: Jail breaking latest Ios

2014-02-25 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Hi,

I don't mind helping out, but I prefer to keep things like this on
list so that everyone else benefits. There is a very large amount of
information that can be found via Google relating to advantages 
disadvantages of jailbreaking and the exact steps involved.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 2/25/14, HotScot72 william.ingli...@gmail.com wrote:
 hello Ben, hope you don't mind me asking here, but I have just purchased an
 iPhone4s, and was thinking of jailbreaking it sometime.
 Would you please consider helping me out?.
 If you are willing to help, please contact me.
 email. william.ingli...@gmail.com
 skype. bluey1972
 FB. Broxi Bear
 twitter. Ingy4

 Billy9

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 Of Ben Mustill-Rose
 Sent: 25 February 2014 00:58
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Jail breaking latest Ios

 Hi,

 Yes; same tool as for every other iOS 7 version.

 Cheers,
 Ben.

 On 2/24/14, Eric Whitten whitten.e...@gmail.com wrote:
 Can u jail break Ios 706?

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Re: Jail breaking latest Ios

2014-02-25 Thread BillyI

On 25/02/2014 11:56, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:

Hi,

I don't mind helping out, but I prefer to keep things like this on
list so that everyone else benefits. There is a very large amount of
information that can be found via Google relating to advantages 
disadvantages of jailbreaking and the exact steps involved.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 2/25/14, HotScot72 william.ingli...@gmail.com wrote:

hello Ben, hope you don't mind me asking here, but I have just purchased an
iPhone4s, and was thinking of jailbreaking it sometime.
Would you please consider helping me out?.
If you are willing to help, please contact me.
email. william.ingli...@gmail.com
skype. bluey1972
FB. Broxi Bear
twitter. Ingy4

Billy9

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Of Ben Mustill-Rose
Sent: 25 February 2014 00:58
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Jail breaking latest Ios

Hi,

Yes; same tool as for every other iOS 7 version.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 2/24/14, Eric Whitten whitten.e...@gmail.com wrote:

Can u jail break Ios 706?

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RE: Jail breaking latest Ios

2014-02-25 Thread Blind Treasures
Can you upgrade to this IOS version without having to unjail break your
phone first?

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Re: Jail breaking latest Ios

2014-02-25 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Hi,

No, as per usual, you'll have to do a restore which will most likely
fail, then try it again  rejailbreak once you're up and running on
7.06.

Cheers,
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Jail breaking latest Ios

2014-02-24 Thread Eric Whitten
Can u jail break Ios 706?

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Re: Jail breaking latest Ios

2014-02-24 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Hi,

Yes; same tool as for every other iOS 7 version.

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Re: Another Jail breaking Question

2013-02-06 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, also if you want to purchase Apps from Cydia, you can use either 
Paypal or Amazon Payments with your credit card for this. So, the Cydia 
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Tap on cydia, then manage account.  Here it will give you 2 options.  To set
it up using facebook, or to sign in with a gmail address.  This process is
used to othentacate you.  I have always used my gmail account, but that is
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Does anyone know how I would go about setting up my Cydia account? I can't
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Re: Another Jail breaking Question

2013-02-06 Thread Timothy Emmons
Hi guys, I'm curious. I see a lot of jailbreaking stuff and see a lot of pros 
and cons on the subject. I'm curious though, if I were to jailbreak my iPhone, 
and decided to go back to the original iPhone say what it was before I 
jailbroke it, how do I do that, what would I do to get it back there. Just 
curious, and do they have a jailbreak for 6.1? Just curious. Thanks again and 
take care. 
On Feb 6, 2013, at 9:17 AM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:

 Hi, also if you want to purchase Apps from Cydia, you can use either Paypal 
 or Amazon Payments with your credit card for this. So, the Cydia people never 
 have your payment info.
 
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 On 2/5/2013 11:01 AM, Kliphton A M wrote:
 Tap on cydia, then manage account.  Here it will give you 2 options.  To set
 it up using facebook, or to sign in with a gmail address.  This process is
 used to othentacate you.  I have always used my gmail account, but that is
 up to you.
 
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 Of Scott Rumery
 Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 10:51 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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 Does anyone know how I would go about setting up my Cydia account? I can't
 seem to figure this one out on my own.
 
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Re: Another Jail breaking Question

2013-02-06 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Yes, there is an untethered jail break for IOS 6.1.

It's been a while since I've done it, so I can’t give step by step
instructions, but yes, you can restore your iPhone to the point before
it was jail broken.

On 06/02/13 10:44, Timothy Emmons wrote:
 Hi guys, I'm curious. I see a lot of jailbreaking stuff and see a lot of pros 
 and cons on the subject. I'm curious though, if I were to jailbreak my 
 iPhone, and decided to go back to the original iPhone say what it was before 
 I jailbroke it, how do I do that, what would I do to get it back there. Just 
 curious, and do they have a jailbreak for 6.1? Just curious. Thanks again and 
 take care. 
 On Feb 6, 2013, at 9:17 AM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
 
 Hi, also if you want to purchase Apps from Cydia, you can use either Paypal 
 or Amazon Payments with your credit card for this. So, the Cydia people 
 never have your payment info.

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 On 2/5/2013 11:01 AM, Kliphton A M wrote:
 Tap on cydia, then manage account.  Here it will give you 2 options.  To set
 it up using facebook, or to sign in with a gmail address.  This process is
 used to othentacate you.  I have always used my gmail account, but that is
 up to you.

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 Of Scott Rumery
 Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 10:51 AM
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 Subject: Another Jailbreaking Question

 Does anyone know how I would go about setting up my Cydia account? I can't
 seem to figure this one out on my own.

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Re: Another Jail breaking Question

2013-02-06 Thread Timothy Emmons
Ok, good to know, I may look into this a bit, but was just curious. I'm liking 
winterboard, a lot it looks appealing, as do some of the others and was just 
curious. Thanks. 
On Feb 6, 2013, at 10:55 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

 Yes, there is an untethered jail break for IOS 6.1.
 
 It's been a while since I've done it, so I can’t give step by step
 instructions, but yes, you can restore your iPhone to the point before
 it was jail broken.
 
 On 06/02/13 10:44, Timothy Emmons wrote:
 Hi guys, I'm curious. I see a lot of jailbreaking stuff and see a lot of 
 pros and cons on the subject. I'm curious though, if I were to jailbreak my 
 iPhone, and decided to go back to the original iPhone say what it was before 
 I jailbroke it, how do I do that, what would I do to get it back there. Just 
 curious, and do they have a jailbreak for 6.1? Just curious. Thanks again 
 and take care. 
 On Feb 6, 2013, at 9:17 AM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
 
 Hi, also if you want to purchase Apps from Cydia, you can use either Paypal 
 or Amazon Payments with your credit card for this. So, the Cydia people 
 never have your payment info.
 
 --
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 As you get older three things happen. The first is your memory goes, and I 
 can't remember the other two... - Sir Norman Wisdom
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 On 2/5/2013 11:01 AM, Kliphton A M wrote:
 Tap on cydia, then manage account.  Here it will give you 2 options.  To 
 set
 it up using facebook, or to sign in with a gmail address.  This process is
 used to othentacate you.  I have always used my gmail account, but that is
 up to you.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Scott Rumery
 Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 10:51 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Another Jailbreaking Question
 
 Does anyone know how I would go about setting up my Cydia account? I can't
 seem to figure this one out on my own.
 
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Re: Another Jail breaking Question

2013-02-06 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, yes you can unjailbreak by doing a simple restore from iTunes. Yes, 
you can jailbreak iOS 6.1.


Good luck.

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On 2/6/2013 10:44 AM, Timothy Emmons wrote:

Hi guys, I'm curious. I see a lot of jailbreaking stuff and see a lot of pros 
and cons on the subject. I'm curious though, if I were to jailbreak my iPhone, 
and decided to go back to the original iPhone say what it was before I 
jailbroke it, how do I do that, what would I do to get it back there. Just 
curious, and do they have a jailbreak for 6.1? Just curious. Thanks again and 
take care.
On Feb 6, 2013, at 9:17 AM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:


Hi, also if you want to purchase Apps from Cydia, you can use either Paypal or 
Amazon Payments with your credit card for this. So, the Cydia people never have 
your payment info.

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can't remember the other two... - Sir Norman Wisdom
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Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47

On 2/5/2013 11:01 AM, Kliphton A M wrote:

Tap on cydia, then manage account.  Here it will give you 2 options.  To set
it up using facebook, or to sign in with a gmail address.  This process is
used to othentacate you.  I have always used my gmail account, but that is
up to you.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Scott Rumery
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Another Jailbreaking Question

Does anyone know how I would go about setting up my Cydia account? I can't
seem to figure this one out on my own.

Scott



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Re: Another Jail breaking Question

2013-02-06 Thread Cris
Ok, so I did it and jailbroke my iPhone 4s.  I followed the instruction on 
how to change my root password, by installing the mobile terminal.  When I 
launch the mobile terminal, I can't see any text edit boxes and I do not get 
any feed back when I type.  Any tips on how to change the root password?


Cheers,

Cris

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From: Raul A. Gallegos

Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 10:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Jail breaking Question

Hi, also if you want to purchase Apps from Cydia, you can use either
Paypal or Amazon Payments with your credit card for this. So, the Cydia
people never have your payment info.

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On 2/5/2013 11:01 AM, Kliphton A M wrote:
Tap on cydia, then manage account.  Here it will give you 2 options.  To 
set

it up using facebook, or to sign in with a gmail address.  This process is
used to othentacate you.  I have always used my gmail account, but that is
up to you.

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Of Scott Rumery
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 10:51 AM
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Subject: Another Jailbreaking Question

Does anyone know how I would go about setting up my Cydia account? I can't
seem to figure this one out on my own.

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Re: Another Jail breaking Question

2013-02-06 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, I would just install the ssh server, and then use an ssh client from 
a pc and change it that way.


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On 2/6/2013 1:13 PM, Cris wrote:

Ok, so I did it and jailbroke my iPhone 4s.  I followed the instruction
on how to change my root password, by installing the mobile terminal.
When I launch the mobile terminal, I can't see any text edit boxes and I
do not get any feed back when I type.  Any tips on how to change the
root password?

Cheers,

Cris

-Original Message- From: Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 10:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Jail breaking Question

Hi, also if you want to purchase Apps from Cydia, you can use either
Paypal or Amazon Payments with your credit card for this. So, the Cydia
people never have your payment info.

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On 2/5/2013 11:01 AM, Kliphton A M wrote:

Tap on cydia, then manage account.  Here it will give you 2 options.
To set
it up using facebook, or to sign in with a gmail address.  This
process is
used to othentacate you.  I have always used my gmail account, but
that is
up to you.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Scott Rumery
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Another Jailbreaking Question

Does anyone know how I would go about setting up my Cydia account? I
can't
seem to figure this one out on my own.

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Re: Another Jail breaking Question

2013-02-06 Thread Cris

Do you recommend any ssh server and ssh terminal?
Cheers,

Cris

-Original Message- 
From: Raul A. Gallegos

Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Jail breaking Question

Hi, I would just install the ssh server, and then use an ssh client from
a pc and change it that way.

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On 2/6/2013 1:13 PM, Cris wrote:

Ok, so I did it and jailbroke my iPhone 4s.  I followed the instruction
on how to change my root password, by installing the mobile terminal.
When I launch the mobile terminal, I can't see any text edit boxes and I
do not get any feed back when I type.  Any tips on how to change the
root password?

Cheers,

Cris

-Original Message- From: Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 10:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Jail breaking Question

Hi, also if you want to purchase Apps from Cydia, you can use either
Paypal or Amazon Payments with your credit card for this. So, the Cydia
people never have your payment info.

--
Raul A. Gallegos
As you get older three things happen. The first is your memory goes, and
I can't remember the other two... - Sir Norman Wisdom
Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
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On 2/5/2013 11:01 AM, Kliphton A M wrote:

Tap on cydia, then manage account.  Here it will give you 2 options.
To set
it up using facebook, or to sign in with a gmail address.  This
process is
used to othentacate you.  I have always used my gmail account, but
that is
up to you.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Scott Rumery
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Another Jailbreaking Question

Does anyone know how I would go about setting up my Cydia account? I
can't
seem to figure this one out on my own.

Scott





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Re: Another Jail breaking Question

2013-02-06 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, I think there is only one ssh server from cydia. As for a terminal, 
I think there is one which is VO friendly, but I forget its name. That's 
why I suggested one from the PC, Putty is a good choice.


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On 2/6/2013 1:49 PM, Cris wrote:

Do you recommend any ssh server and ssh terminal?
Cheers,

Cris

-Original Message- From: Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 2:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Jail breaking Question

Hi, I would just install the ssh server, and then use an ssh client from
a pc and change it that way.

--
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I used to sell furniture for a living. The trouble was, it was my own.
- Les Dawson
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On 2/6/2013 1:13 PM, Cris wrote:

Ok, so I did it and jailbroke my iPhone 4s.  I followed the instruction
on how to change my root password, by installing the mobile terminal.
When I launch the mobile terminal, I can't see any text edit boxes and I
do not get any feed back when I type.  Any tips on how to change the
root password?

Cheers,

Cris

-Original Message- From: Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 10:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Another Jail breaking Question

Hi, also if you want to purchase Apps from Cydia, you can use either
Paypal or Amazon Payments with your credit card for this. So, the Cydia
people never have your payment info.

--
Raul A. Gallegos
As you get older three things happen. The first is your memory goes, and
I can't remember the other two... - Sir Norman Wisdom
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On 2/5/2013 11:01 AM, Kliphton A M wrote:

Tap on cydia, then manage account.  Here it will give you 2 options.
To set
it up using facebook, or to sign in with a gmail address.  This
process is
used to othentacate you.  I have always used my gmail account, but
that is
up to you.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf
Of Scott Rumery
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Another Jailbreaking Question

Does anyone know how I would go about setting up my Cydia account? I
can't
seem to figure this one out on my own.

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RE: Another Jail breaking Question

2013-02-05 Thread Kliphton A M
Tap on cydia, then manage account.  Here it will give you 2 options.  To set
it up using facebook, or to sign in with a gmail address.  This process is
used to othentacate you.  I have always used my gmail account, but that is
up to you.

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Of Scott Rumery
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2013 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Another Jailbreaking Question

Does anyone know how I would go about setting up my Cydia account? I can't
seem to figure this one out on my own.

Scott

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Re: Question on jail breaking and IOS 6

2012-09-22 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Hi,

It lets you increase the speed of voice over.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 9/22/12, Louise Redsull louisereds...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi, What is ratetweak and what does it do?
 Thanks,
 Louise.


 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Ben Mustill-Rose
 Sent: 22 September 2012 2:21 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Question on jail breaking and IOS 6

 I'm finding it hard to make my mind up. Siri is much better for the UK
 under
 iOs6 and it's noticeabley faster on my new 4S, but I use ratetweak which
 speeds up vo and I'm really missing it.
 I'll have to choos soon; I might go back to 5.1.1 this weekend if I can.

 Cheers,
 Ben.

 On 9/22/12, Kliphton kliph...@gmail.com wrote:
 For what it's worth, the passbook app isn't all it's hyped up to be.
 IOS 6, is faster, and it probably helps that I have the iPhone5, but I
 do miss my phone being jailbroken.

 Kliphton SR.
 KS Vending
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 (TXT) 218-332-7542
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 http://facebook.com/k.and.s.vending

 On Sep 21, 2012, at 7:51 AM, Raul A. Gallegos
 r...@raulgallegos.com
 wrote:

 Hi, for what it's worth, I'm not upgrading my iPhone 4S as yet. My
 current jailbreak solution gives me most of what people are now just
 enjoying with iOS 6. It's true that I don't have the new Maps, the
 Passbook, and the various Voice Over fixes, but for the tweaks,
 capabilities, and other areas of the iPhone which jailbreaking has
 offered me I'm good for now.

 I've backed up my shsh blobs just in case, but I'm set. If you want
 to upgrade when the iOS 6 jailbreak is out, then I'd recommend
 getting the app called xbackup from cydia. It will backup the list of
 jb packages as well as their layout on the home screen if I remember
 correctly. I don't think it backs up any actual data, but the normal
 iPhone backup will do this.

 Good luck.

 --
 Raul A. Gallegos
 To do list 1. Buy a turtle 2. Name it 'The speed of light' 3. Be able
 to say I can run faster the speed of light ;) Home Page:
 http://raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47

 On 9/19/2012 7:05 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
 I have a jail broken iPhone 4S running IOS 5.1.1. Now that IOS 6 is
 out, what are my options? I've Googled around a bit, and I've
 learned some thinngs, but I still have a few questions. Also, I'm
 not in a hurry to update, so I've got time to figure this out or
 wait for a jail break to IOS 6.

 I used Absynthe to jail break my phone. Should I just wait for IOS 6
 to be jail broken before doing any updates?

 If I wait to update to IOS 6 until it's jail broken, what's the
 procedure? Do I back things up, update to IOS 6 and then jail break?
 Will I lose anything or are their any other precautions I should take?

 If I don't want to wait, what can I do to get up to IOS 6, just back
 things up and then download and install the update?

 Like I said, I've been Googling a bit, so don't hesitate to just
 give me a pointer or two.


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Re: Question on jail breaking and IOS 6

2012-09-21 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Hi,

Just a quick message to say that my previous email about this was
incorrect; having looked at the blog post I mentioned again, it would
appear that I have missread it:

Assuming you have a 4S and have blobs for 5.1.1, you will always be
able to re restore to 5.1.1 - E.G. if the phone crashes you can do a
restore to 5.1.1 with stitched blobs or tinyumbrella. If you upgrade
to 6 you will be unable to downgrade to 5.1.1 once the signing window
has closed.

Hopefully nobody upgraded to 6 based on my incorrect information.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 9/20/12, Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com wrote:
 Hi,

 At the moment, you can do a normal upgrade to 6 although you won't be
 jailbroken and you'll have to upgrade through iTunes since OTA doesn't
 seem to work?
 If you've saved your blobs (Cydia does this for you) you'll be able to
 go back to 5.1.1 as of a few hours ago according to a blog post that
 the dev team have written.

 Cheers,
 Ben.

 On 9/20/12, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have a jail broken iPhone 4S running IOS 5.1.1. Now that IOS 6 is out,
 what are my options? I've Googled around a bit, and I've learned some
 thinngs, but I still have a few questions. Also, I'm not in a hurry to
 update, so I've got time to figure this out or wait for a jail break to
 IOS 6.

 I used Absynthe to jail break my phone. Should I just wait for IOS 6 to
 be jail broken before doing any updates?

 If I wait to update to IOS 6 until it's jail broken, what's the
 procedure? Do I back things up, update to IOS 6 and then jail break?
 Will I lose anything or are their any other precautions I should take?

 If I don't want to wait, what can I do to get up to IOS 6, just back
 things up and then download and install the update?

 Like I said, I've been Googling a bit, so don't hesitate to just give me
 a pointer or two.

 --
 Christopher (CJ)
 chaltain at Gmail

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Re: Question on jail breaking and IOS 6

2012-09-21 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, for what it's worth, I'm not upgrading my iPhone 4S as yet. My 
current jailbreak solution gives me most of what people are now just 
enjoying with iOS 6. It's true that I don't have the new Maps, the 
Passbook, and the various Voice Over fixes, but for the tweaks, 
capabilities, and other areas of the iPhone which jailbreaking has 
offered me I'm good for now.


I've backed up my shsh blobs just in case, but I'm set. If you want to 
upgrade when the iOS 6 jailbreak is out, then I'd recommend getting the 
app called xbackup from cydia. It will backup the list of jb packages as 
well as their layout on the home screen if I remember correctly. I don't 
think it backs up any actual data, but the normal iPhone backup will do 
this.


Good luck.

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On 9/19/2012 7:05 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

I have a jail broken iPhone 4S running IOS 5.1.1. Now that IOS 6 is out,
what are my options? I've Googled around a bit, and I've learned some
thinngs, but I still have a few questions. Also, I'm not in a hurry to
update, so I've got time to figure this out or wait for a jail break to
IOS 6.

I used Absynthe to jail break my phone. Should I just wait for IOS 6 to
be jail broken before doing any updates?

If I wait to update to IOS 6 until it's jail broken, what's the
procedure? Do I back things up, update to IOS 6 and then jail break?
Will I lose anything or are their any other precautions I should take?

If I don't want to wait, what can I do to get up to IOS 6, just back
things up and then download and install the update?

Like I said, I've been Googling a bit, so don't hesitate to just give me
a pointer or two.



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Re: Question on jail breaking and IOS 6

2012-09-21 Thread Kliphton
For what it's worth, the passbook app isn't all it's hyped up to be.  IOS 6, is 
faster, and it probably helps that I have the iPhone5, but I do miss my phone 
being jailbroken.

Kliphton SR.
KS Vending
(Office/Fax) 218-451-9881
(TXT) 218-332-7542
k.and.s.vend...@gmail.com
http://twitter.com/KSVending
http://facebook.com/k.and.s.vending

On Sep 21, 2012, at 7:51 AM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote:

 Hi, for what it's worth, I'm not upgrading my iPhone 4S as yet. My current 
 jailbreak solution gives me most of what people are now just enjoying with 
 iOS 6. It's true that I don't have the new Maps, the Passbook, and the 
 various Voice Over fixes, but for the tweaks, capabilities, and other areas 
 of the iPhone which jailbreaking has offered me I'm good for now.
 
 I've backed up my shsh blobs just in case, but I'm set. If you want to 
 upgrade when the iOS 6 jailbreak is out, then I'd recommend getting the app 
 called xbackup from cydia. It will backup the list of jb packages as well as 
 their layout on the home screen if I remember correctly. I don't think it 
 backs up any actual data, but the normal iPhone backup will do this.
 
 Good luck.
 
 --
 Raul A. Gallegos
 To do list 1. Buy a turtle 2. Name it 'The speed of light' 3. Be able to say 
 I can run faster the speed of light ;)
 Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rau47
 
 On 9/19/2012 7:05 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
 I have a jail broken iPhone 4S running IOS 5.1.1. Now that IOS 6 is out,
 what are my options? I've Googled around a bit, and I've learned some
 thinngs, but I still have a few questions. Also, I'm not in a hurry to
 update, so I've got time to figure this out or wait for a jail break to
 IOS 6.
 
 I used Absynthe to jail break my phone. Should I just wait for IOS 6 to
 be jail broken before doing any updates?
 
 If I wait to update to IOS 6 until it's jail broken, what's the
 procedure? Do I back things up, update to IOS 6 and then jail break?
 Will I lose anything or are their any other precautions I should take?
 
 If I don't want to wait, what can I do to get up to IOS 6, just back
 things up and then download and install the update?
 
 Like I said, I've been Googling a bit, so don't hesitate to just give me
 a pointer or two.
 
 
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Re: Question on jail breaking and IOS 6

2012-09-21 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
I'm finding it hard to make my mind up. Siri is much better for the UK
under iOs6 and it's noticeabley faster on my new 4S, but I use
ratetweak which speeds up vo and I'm really missing it.
I'll have to choos soon; I might go back to 5.1.1 this weekend if I can.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 9/22/12, Kliphton kliph...@gmail.com wrote:
 For what it's worth, the passbook app isn't all it's hyped up to be.  IOS 6,
 is faster, and it probably helps that I have the iPhone5, but I do miss my
 phone being jailbroken.

 Kliphton SR.
 KS Vending
 (Office/Fax) 218-451-9881
 (TXT) 218-332-7542
 k.and.s.vend...@gmail.com
 http://twitter.com/KSVending
 http://facebook.com/k.and.s.vending

 On Sep 21, 2012, at 7:51 AM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com
 wrote:

 Hi, for what it's worth, I'm not upgrading my iPhone 4S as yet. My current
 jailbreak solution gives me most of what people are now just enjoying with
 iOS 6. It's true that I don't have the new Maps, the Passbook, and the
 various Voice Over fixes, but for the tweaks, capabilities, and other
 areas of the iPhone which jailbreaking has offered me I'm good for now.

 I've backed up my shsh blobs just in case, but I'm set. If you want to
 upgrade when the iOS 6 jailbreak is out, then I'd recommend getting the
 app called xbackup from cydia. It will backup the list of jb packages as
 well as their layout on the home screen if I remember correctly. I don't
 think it backs up any actual data, but the normal iPhone backup will do
 this.

 Good luck.

 --
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 To do list 1. Buy a turtle 2. Name it 'The speed of light' 3. Be able to
 say I can run faster the speed of light ;)
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 On 9/19/2012 7:05 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
 I have a jail broken iPhone 4S running IOS 5.1.1. Now that IOS 6 is out,
 what are my options? I've Googled around a bit, and I've learned some
 thinngs, but I still have a few questions. Also, I'm not in a hurry to
 update, so I've got time to figure this out or wait for a jail break to
 IOS 6.

 I used Absynthe to jail break my phone. Should I just wait for IOS 6 to
 be jail broken before doing any updates?

 If I wait to update to IOS 6 until it's jail broken, what's the
 procedure? Do I back things up, update to IOS 6 and then jail break?
 Will I lose anything or are their any other precautions I should take?

 If I don't want to wait, what can I do to get up to IOS 6, just back
 things up and then download and install the update?

 Like I said, I've been Googling a bit, so don't hesitate to just give me
 a pointer or two.


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Re: Question on jail breaking and IOS 6

2012-09-19 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Hi,

At the moment, you can do a normal upgrade to 6 although you won't be
jailbroken and you'll have to upgrade through iTunes since OTA doesn't
seem to work?
If you've saved your blobs (Cydia does this for you) you'll be able to
go back to 5.1.1 as of a few hours ago according to a blog post that
the dev team have written.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 9/20/12, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote:
 I have a jail broken iPhone 4S running IOS 5.1.1. Now that IOS 6 is out,
 what are my options? I've Googled around a bit, and I've learned some
 thinngs, but I still have a few questions. Also, I'm not in a hurry to
 update, so I've got time to figure this out or wait for a jail break to
 IOS 6.

 I used Absynthe to jail break my phone. Should I just wait for IOS 6 to
 be jail broken before doing any updates?

 If I wait to update to IOS 6 until it's jail broken, what's the
 procedure? Do I back things up, update to IOS 6 and then jail break?
 Will I lose anything or are their any other precautions I should take?

 If I don't want to wait, what can I do to get up to IOS 6, just back
 things up and then download and install the update?

 Like I said, I've been Googling a bit, so don't hesitate to just give me
 a pointer or two.

 --
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 chaltain at Gmail

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RE: Jail breaking -- What is repository?

2012-07-07 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Just starting to get into your Jailbreaking podcast.

Can you explain more about repository? I'm not familiar with that term
or concept.

Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Blinkin
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 5:45 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Jail breaking

I will cover this also in my podcast. 
I have had one or two extra bugs while using voice over on my
jailbroken iPhone 4 but nothing has ever moved and the bugs are
certainly easy to live with.
The two biggest I deal with occasionally are folders closing a
split second after I open them and I just have to re tap the screen and
occasionally when I press the sleep button my phone will take a screen
shot instead of locking.
to fix this I just tap the home button twice then hit the sleep
button and it goes right to sleep.
these are the only issues I have ever had with voice over.
Everything has worked just fine for me but I have not unlocked my phone.
Only jailbroken it.
If I am lucky I will have one of these bugs happen tonight when
I finish recording.
cheers!

Mike M
On Jul 5, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote:

 Greetings from Chicago.  I have never owned a cell phone before and
 really learned the benefit of one when I was in a suburb and asked
 folks for directions a few times.  no one could answer my questions
 directly. they all turned to their smart phones!  I realized I could
 have the same thing in my hand that was fully accessible.  I learned
 about the Straight Talk service and discovered that iPhone service is
 now more affordable than high speed Internet access was when I first
 subscribed more than 10 years ago.
 
 to use Straight Talk or most of the other prepaid services, it is
 necessary to unlock the phone. Unlocking usually requires jail
 breaking, I understand. Even if it doesn't I would eventually
 jailbreak anyway for the added flexibility.  A friend told me that
 unlocked and jail broken phones are unstable with Voice Over. He said
 the places where one gestures or taps to initiate actions can move or
 change. These shifting locations he said can make it difficult for a
 blind person to use an unlocked phone. For this reason, he urges blind
 people to use contract service only.
 
 has anyone else experienced this with unlocked or jailbroken phones?
 Is voice Over less responsive and precise in unlocked or jail broken
 configurations than an out of the box phone from a contract provider?
 
 I appreciate all the contributions people have made in the few days I
 have been on the list.  I have learned so much already.  I can't wait
 to get started on this adventure in independence.
 
 Kelly
 
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Re: Jail breaking -- What is repository?

2012-07-07 Thread Blinkin
In a butshell a repository is a website where the different apps and tweaks are 
stored.
When you add a repository to cydia you are giving it permission to 
access those apps and download them.
There are somewhere around 5 that are pre installed when you jailbreak 
and these are the only ones that have truely been vouched for and tested for 
security.
It is possible to add a repository with harmful content in it so make 
sure you are comfortable with anything you add.
i hope this helps make sense of it.
have a good day!

Mike 
On Jul 7, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote:

 Just starting to get into your Jailbreaking podcast.
 
 Can you explain more about repository? I'm not familiar with that term
 or concept.
 
 Thanks.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Blinkin
 Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 5:45 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Jail breaking
 
 I will cover this also in my podcast. 
   I have had one or two extra bugs while using voice over on my
 jailbroken iPhone 4 but nothing has ever moved and the bugs are
 certainly easy to live with.
   The two biggest I deal with occasionally are folders closing a
 split second after I open them and I just have to re tap the screen and
 occasionally when I press the sleep button my phone will take a screen
 shot instead of locking.
   to fix this I just tap the home button twice then hit the sleep
 button and it goes right to sleep.
   these are the only issues I have ever had with voice over.
 Everything has worked just fine for me but I have not unlocked my phone.
 Only jailbroken it.
   If I am lucky I will have one of these bugs happen tonight when
 I finish recording.
   cheers!
 
 Mike M
 On Jul 5, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote:
 
 Greetings from Chicago.  I have never owned a cell phone before and
 really learned the benefit of one when I was in a suburb and asked
 folks for directions a few times.  no one could answer my questions
 directly. they all turned to their smart phones!  I realized I could
 have the same thing in my hand that was fully accessible.  I learned
 about the Straight Talk service and discovered that iPhone service is
 now more affordable than high speed Internet access was when I first
 subscribed more than 10 years ago.
 
 to use Straight Talk or most of the other prepaid services, it is
 necessary to unlock the phone. Unlocking usually requires jail
 breaking, I understand. Even if it doesn't I would eventually
 jailbreak anyway for the added flexibility.  A friend told me that
 unlocked and jail broken phones are unstable with Voice Over. He said
 the places where one gestures or taps to initiate actions can move or
 change. These shifting locations he said can make it difficult for a
 blind person to use an unlocked phone. For this reason, he urges blind
 people to use contract service only.
 
 has anyone else experienced this with unlocked or jailbroken phones?
 Is voice Over less responsive and precise in unlocked or jail broken
 configurations than an out of the box phone from a contract provider?
 
 I appreciate all the contributions people have made in the few days I
 have been on the list.  I have learned so much already.  I can't wait
 to get started on this adventure in independence.
 
 Kelly
 
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Re: Jail breaking

2012-07-06 Thread Ben Blatchford
I am using Siri on my iPod touch. This tweet of medical from Cydia is called 
Siri court and what it and I think you is it allows you to use Siri on your 
non-iPhone 4S devices this technique is awesome. I need you to type this 
message TDF the iPhone and longest right now ch for

Sent from my iPod

On Jul 5, 2012, at 5:35 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 That is correct, although there is currently no unofficial unlock for
 the 4S, so jailbreaking won't help.
 I'll also echo what Raul has already said about your friend; there
 simply is no way that he is talking from experience because that just
 doesn't happen. In contrast, everyone? contributing in this topic has
 at some point jailbroken their device, so in theory, the information
 offered will be much more accurate.
 My accessibility experiences concerning jailbreaking have infact all
 been positive. Up until around 1.5 years ago, Cydia, the jailbroken
 app store was completely inaccessible. A couple of us emailed the
 developer and it was made completely accessible in the next version.
 An app that some of us use called voice activator used to crash when
 vo was turned on. Once I found this out, I emailed the developer and
 from memory a fixed version was released the next day.
 
 Cheers,
 Ben.
 
 On 7/6/12, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:
 I believe if I were to purchase a used iPhone 4s that someone had used
 on ATT, I would need to jailbreak it to unlock it, from the various
 tutorials I have read.
 
 Kelly
 
 
 
 On 7/5/12, Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 You don't have to jailbreak first - apple do sell an unlocked iPhone for
 about 800 dollars.
 Cheers,
 Joseph
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of jeremy
 Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 4:27 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Jail breaking
 
 Do you not have to jailbreak to unlock the phone though? I'd always
 assumed
 that in order to unlock the phone, it first must be jailbroken.
 Take care.
 
 On 7/5/2012 6:17 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
 They are very different. Unlocking means your phone is made to work
 with any provider. So, if you have an ATT phone and you unlock it,
 you can use it with another gsm provider like T-mobile. Jailbreaking
 means you gain access to the root of the phone and can do many nice
 tweaks and add other types of apps. Jailbreaking and unlocking are not
 synonymous.
 
 --
 Raul A. Gallegos
 Never have more children than you have car windows. - Erma Bombeck
 Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74
 
 
 On 7/5/2012 7:09 PM, Jessica Brown wrote:
 What is the difference between unlocking and jail breaking? I thought
 that they were 2 separate things.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Blinkin blinkin4...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Date sent: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 17:45:28 -0500
 Subject: Re: Jail breaking
 
 I will cover this also in my podcast.
 I have had one or two extra bugs while using voice over on my
 jailbroken iPhone 4 but nothing has ever moved and the bugs are
 certainly easy to live with.
 The two biggest I deal with occasionally are folders closing a
 split second after I open them and I just have to re tap the screen
 and occasionally when I press the sleep button my phone will take a
 screen shot instead of locking.
 to fix this I just tap the home button twice then hit the sleep
 button and it goes right to sleep.
 these are the only issues I have ever had with voice over.
 Everything has worked just fine for me but I have not unlocked my
 phone.
 Only jailbroken it.
 If I am lucky I will have one of these bugs happen tonight when
 I finish recording.
 cheers!
 
 Mike M
 On Jul 5, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote:
 
 Greetings from Chicago.  I have never owned a cell phone before and
 really learned the benefit of one when I was in a suburb and asked
 folks for directions a few times.  no one could answer my questions
 directly. they all turned to their smart phones!  I realized I could
 have the same thing in my hand that was fully accessible.  I learned
 about the Straight Talk service and discovered that iPhone service is
 now more affordable than high speed Internet access was when I first
 subscribed more than 10 years ago.
 
 to use Straight Talk or most of the other prepaid services, it is
 necessary to unlock the phone. Unlocking usually requires jail
 breaking, I understand. Even if it doesn't I would eventually
 jailbreak anyway for the added flexibility.  A friend told me that
 unlocked and jail broken phones are unstable with Voice Over. He said
 the places where one gestures or taps to initiate actions can move or
 change. These shifting locations he said can make it difficult for a
 blind person to use an unlocked phone. For this reason, he urges
 blind people to use contract service only.
 
 has

Re: Jail breaking

2012-07-06 Thread Blinkin
Be careful with these only because one of the main packages that run these 
called Spire I think has not updated to work with IOS 5 and it says in Lydia 
that they are not going to.
Just make sure to check everything out before you buy anything huh. 
I have had some friends buy the key for sir only to find out that they can't 
even run it because the package doesn't work.

I sent the Podcast link out last night and it should be up on iTunes 
now for those of you who want to download it. Just search How to be Blind in 
downcast or whatever else you use to find it.
have a great day!

Mike M
On Jul 6, 2012, at 3:28 AM, Ben Blatchford wrote:

 I am using Siri on my iPod touch. This tweet of medical from Cydia is called 
 Siri court and what it and I think you is it allows you to use Siri on your 
 non-iPhone 4S devices this technique is awesome. I need you to type this 
 message TDF the iPhone and longest right now ch for
 
 Sent from my iPod
 
 On Jul 5, 2012, at 5:35 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 That is correct, although there is currently no unofficial unlock for
 the 4S, so jailbreaking won't help.
 I'll also echo what Raul has already said about your friend; there
 simply is no way that he is talking from experience because that just
 doesn't happen. In contrast, everyone? contributing in this topic has
 at some point jailbroken their device, so in theory, the information
 offered will be much more accurate.
 My accessibility experiences concerning jailbreaking have infact all
 been positive. Up until around 1.5 years ago, Cydia, the jailbroken
 app store was completely inaccessible. A couple of us emailed the
 developer and it was made completely accessible in the next version.
 An app that some of us use called voice activator used to crash when
 vo was turned on. Once I found this out, I emailed the developer and
 from memory a fixed version was released the next day.
 
 Cheers,
 Ben.
 
 On 7/6/12, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:
 I believe if I were to purchase a used iPhone 4s that someone had used
 on ATT, I would need to jailbreak it to unlock it, from the various
 tutorials I have read.
 
 Kelly
 
 
 
 On 7/5/12, Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 You don't have to jailbreak first - apple do sell an unlocked iPhone for
 about 800 dollars.
 Cheers,
 Joseph
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of jeremy
 Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 4:27 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Jail breaking
 
 Do you not have to jailbreak to unlock the phone though? I'd always
 assumed
 that in order to unlock the phone, it first must be jailbroken.
 Take care.
 
 On 7/5/2012 6:17 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
 They are very different. Unlocking means your phone is made to work
 with any provider. So, if you have an ATT phone and you unlock it,
 you can use it with another gsm provider like T-mobile. Jailbreaking
 means you gain access to the root of the phone and can do many nice
 tweaks and add other types of apps. Jailbreaking and unlocking are not
 synonymous.
 
 --
 Raul A. Gallegos
 Never have more children than you have car windows. - Erma Bombeck
 Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74
 
 
 On 7/5/2012 7:09 PM, Jessica Brown wrote:
 What is the difference between unlocking and jail breaking? I thought
 that they were 2 separate things.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Blinkin blinkin4...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Date sent: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 17:45:28 -0500
 Subject: Re: Jail breaking
 
 I will cover this also in my podcast.
I have had one or two extra bugs while using voice over on my
 jailbroken iPhone 4 but nothing has ever moved and the bugs are
 certainly easy to live with.
The two biggest I deal with occasionally are folders closing a
 split second after I open them and I just have to re tap the screen
 and occasionally when I press the sleep button my phone will take a
 screen shot instead of locking.
to fix this I just tap the home button twice then hit the sleep
 button and it goes right to sleep.
these are the only issues I have ever had with voice over.
 Everything has worked just fine for me but I have not unlocked my
 phone.
 Only jailbroken it.
If I am lucky I will have one of these bugs happen tonight when
 I finish recording.
cheers!
 
 Mike M
 On Jul 5, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote:
 
 Greetings from Chicago.  I have never owned a cell phone before and
 really learned the benefit of one when I was in a suburb and asked
 folks for directions a few times.  no one could answer my questions
 directly. they all turned to their smart phones!  I realized I could
 have the same thing in my hand that was fully accessible.  I learned
 about the Straight Talk service and discovered that iPhone service is
 now more affordable than

Re: Jail breaking

2012-07-06 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Hi,

With all due respect to your friends, they should have read about
Spire before they paid for access to a Siri proxy. The author releases
the product for free; third parties charge for access. And probably
steel your information at the same time.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 7/6/12, Blinkin m...@howtobeblind.com wrote:
 Be careful with these only because one of the main packages that run these
 called Spire I think has not updated to work with IOS 5 and it says in Lydia
 that they are not going to.
   Just make sure to check everything out before you buy anything huh.
 I have had some friends buy the key for sir only to find out that they can't
 even run it because the package doesn't work.

   I sent the Podcast link out last night and it should be up on iTunes now
 for those of you who want to download it. Just search How to be Blind in
 downcast or whatever else you use to find it.
   have a great day!

 Mike M
 On Jul 6, 2012, at 3:28 AM, Ben Blatchford wrote:

 I am using Siri on my iPod touch. This tweet of medical from Cydia is
 called Siri court and what it and I think you is it allows you to use Siri
 on your non-iPhone 4S devices this technique is awesome. I need you to
 type this message TDF the iPhone and longest right now ch for

 Sent from my iPod

 On Jul 5, 2012, at 5:35 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com wrote:

 Hi,

 That is correct, although there is currently no unofficial unlock for
 the 4S, so jailbreaking won't help.
 I'll also echo what Raul has already said about your friend; there
 simply is no way that he is talking from experience because that just
 doesn't happen. In contrast, everyone? contributing in this topic has
 at some point jailbroken their device, so in theory, the information
 offered will be much more accurate.
 My accessibility experiences concerning jailbreaking have infact all
 been positive. Up until around 1.5 years ago, Cydia, the jailbroken
 app store was completely inaccessible. A couple of us emailed the
 developer and it was made completely accessible in the next version.
 An app that some of us use called voice activator used to crash when
 vo was turned on. Once I found this out, I emailed the developer and
 from memory a fixed version was released the next day.

 Cheers,
 Ben.

 On 7/6/12, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:
 I believe if I were to purchase a used iPhone 4s that someone had used
 on ATT, I would need to jailbreak it to unlock it, from the various
 tutorials I have read.

 Kelly



 On 7/5/12, Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 You don't have to jailbreak first - apple do sell an unlocked iPhone
 for
 about 800 dollars.
 Cheers,
 Joseph

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of jeremy
 Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 4:27 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Jail breaking

 Do you not have to jailbreak to unlock the phone though? I'd always
 assumed
 that in order to unlock the phone, it first must be jailbroken.
 Take care.

 On 7/5/2012 6:17 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
 They are very different. Unlocking means your phone is made to work
 with any provider. So, if you have an ATT phone and you unlock it,
 you can use it with another gsm provider like T-mobile. Jailbreaking
 means you gain access to the root of the phone and can do many nice
 tweaks and add other types of apps. Jailbreaking and unlocking are
 not
 synonymous.

 --
 Raul A. Gallegos
 Never have more children than you have car windows. - Erma Bombeck
 Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com
 Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47
 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74


 On 7/5/2012 7:09 PM, Jessica Brown wrote:
 What is the difference between unlocking and jail breaking? I
 thought
 that they were 2 separate things.

 - Original Message -
 From: Blinkin blinkin4...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Date sent: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 17:45:28 -0500
 Subject: Re: Jail breaking

 I will cover this also in my podcast.
I have had one or two extra bugs while using voice over on my
 jailbroken iPhone 4 but nothing has ever moved and the bugs are
 certainly easy to live with.
The two biggest I deal with occasionally are folders closing a
 split second after I open them and I just have to re tap the screen
 and occasionally when I press the sleep button my phone will take a
 screen shot instead of locking.
to fix this I just tap the home button twice then hit the sleep
 button and it goes right to sleep.
these are the only issues I have ever had with voice over.
 Everything has worked just fine for me but I have not unlocked my
 phone.
 Only jailbroken it.
If I am lucky I will have one of these bugs happen tonight when
 I finish recording.
cheers!

 Mike M
 On Jul 5, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote:

 Greetings from Chicago.  I have never owned a cell phone before and
 really learned the benefit of one when I was in a suburb and asked
 folks

Re: Jail breaking

2012-07-05 Thread chris hallsworth
Thanks, am looking forward to this. May consider jailbreaking in the future 
since I am an amateur techy and just interested in what all the fuss is 
about.
- Original Message - 
From: Blinkin blinkin4...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: Jail breaking


I am currently working on a podcast all about jail breaking that hopefully 
will be finished tonight.

I will cover a lot of material and tweaks including Activator .
I will send a link out here when it is complete.

Mike M
On Jul 4, 2012, at 5:31 PM, Mike Maslo wrote:


Hi list

Was wondering if there is anyone out there who can give me step-by-step 
instructions on how to using sb settings or activation


Any help would be greatly appreciated

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 4, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com 
wrote:


Correct, jailbreak apps can only be loaded onto a jailbroken iPHone or 
iPod.


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On 7/4/2012 3:11 PM, James Mannion wrote:

However, unless I am incorrect, what is not being made clear here is
there would be no way to load the jailbreak apps, even the versions
you have, on a device that has not been jailbroken. You would not only
have the restriction of not being able to upgrade them, but I do not
think you could load them on a new device not yet jailbroken, right?
You are not going to find your jailbroken apps in ITunes, right?

On 7/4/12, Jon Pierson joncpier...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Scott,
You got it.

Jon



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Scott Howell
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 3:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Jail breaking

John,

What if you elect to upgrade your phone and subsequently not jailbreak 
the
device? I assume you can reload those apps acquired from Cydia? I 
assume

you
cannot upgrade those apps since you would not have access to the Cydia 
app

store unless you jailbreak again?

On Jul 3, 2012, at 10:36 PM, Jon Pierson wrote:


Hi Scott,
A few ways to backup up Cydia have been mentioned here, but the 
answer

is that you don't lose your apps or pay for them again. You simply
login to cydia, grab your backup program and restore everything or 
use

the backup file created for you in some cases.

Jon



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Behalf Of Scott Howell
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 6:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Jail breaking

Although once you jailbreak your device you cannot upgrade to the
latest version of the OS until someone comes out with a jailbreak for
that

version.
I'm also curious if you loose your apps you purchased or obtained 
from

the non-Apple sources.

On Jul 3, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:


I haven't done it myself, but you should be able to wipe your phone
and reinstall IOS on it, so it'll never appear that it was ever
unbroken.

On 03/07/12 19:17, thomas williams wrote:

Once you jail-break can you also unjail break?




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Re: Jail breaking

2012-07-05 Thread Kelly Pierce
Greetings from Chicago.  I have never owned a cell phone before and
really learned the benefit of one when I was in a suburb and asked
folks for directions a few times.  no one could answer my questions
directly. they all turned to their smart phones!  I realized I could
have the same thing in my hand that was fully accessible.  I learned
about the Straight Talk service and discovered that iPhone service is
now more affordable than high speed Internet access was when I first
subscribed more than 10 years ago.

to use Straight Talk or most of the other prepaid services, it is
necesssary to unlock the phone. Unlocking usually requires jail
breaking, I understand. Even if it doesn't I would eventually
jailbreak anyway for the added flexability.  A friend told me that
unlocked and jail broken phones are unstable with Voice Over. He said
the places where one gestures or taps to initiate actions can move or
change. These shifting locations he said can make it difficult for a
blind person to use an unlocked phone. For this reason, he urges blind
people to use contract service only.

has anyone else experienced this with unlocked or jailbroken phones?
Is voice Over less responsive and precise in unlocked or jail broken
configurations than an out of the box phone from a contract provider?

I appreciate all the contributions people have made in the few days I
have been on the list.  I have learned so much already.  I can't wait
to get started on this adventure in independence.

Kelly

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Re: Jail breaking

2012-07-05 Thread Blinkin
I will cover this also in my podcast. 
I have had one or two extra bugs while using voice over on my 
jailbroken iPhone 4 but nothing has ever moved and the bugs are certainly easy 
to live with.
The two biggest I deal with occasionally are folders closing a split 
second after I open them and I just have to re tap the screen and occasionally 
when I press the sleep button my phone will take a screen shot instead of 
locking.
to fix this I just tap the home button twice then hit the sleep button 
and it goes right to sleep.
these are the only issues I have ever had with voice over. Everything 
has worked just fine for me but I have not unlocked my phone. Only jailbroken 
it.
If I am lucky I will have one of these bugs happen tonight when I 
finish recording.
cheers!

Mike M
On Jul 5, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote:

 Greetings from Chicago.  I have never owned a cell phone before and
 really learned the benefit of one when I was in a suburb and asked
 folks for directions a few times.  no one could answer my questions
 directly. they all turned to their smart phones!  I realized I could
 have the same thing in my hand that was fully accessible.  I learned
 about the Straight Talk service and discovered that iPhone service is
 now more affordable than high speed Internet access was when I first
 subscribed more than 10 years ago.
 
 to use Straight Talk or most of the other prepaid services, it is
 necessary to unlock the phone. Unlocking usually requires jail
 breaking, I understand. Even if it doesn't I would eventually
 jailbreak anyway for the added flexibility.  A friend told me that
 unlocked and jail broken phones are unstable with Voice Over. He said
 the places where one gestures or taps to initiate actions can move or
 change. These shifting locations he said can make it difficult for a
 blind person to use an unlocked phone. For this reason, he urges blind
 people to use contract service only.
 
 has anyone else experienced this with unlocked or jailbroken phones?
 Is voice Over less responsive and precise in unlocked or jail broken
 configurations than an out of the box phone from a contract provider?
 
 I appreciate all the contributions people have made in the few days I
 have been on the list.  I have learned so much already.  I can't wait
 to get started on this adventure in independence.
 
 Kelly
 
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Re: Jail breaking

2012-07-05 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Voice Over is not affected by jailbreaking your phone. I think your 
friend is misinformed. It's true that some jailbreak tweaks or apps 
might not work with Voice Over, but the same is true for Apple approved 
app store apps.


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On 7/5/2012 6:04 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote:

Greetings from Chicago.  I have never owned a cell phone before and
really learned the benefit of one when I was in a suburb and asked
folks for directions a few times.  no one could answer my questions
directly. they all turned to their smart phones!  I realized I could
have the same thing in my hand that was fully accessible.  I learned
about the Straight Talk service and discovered that iPhone service is
now more affordable than high speed Internet access was when I first
subscribed more than 10 years ago.

to use Straight Talk or most of the other prepaid services, it is
necesssary to unlock the phone. Unlocking usually requires jail
breaking, I understand. Even if it doesn't I would eventually
jailbreak anyway for the added flexability.  A friend told me that
unlocked and jail broken phones are unstable with Voice Over. He said
the places where one gestures or taps to initiate actions can move or
change. These shifting locations he said can make it difficult for a
blind person to use an unlocked phone. For this reason, he urges blind
people to use contract service only.

has anyone else experienced this with unlocked or jailbroken phones?
Is voice Over less responsive and precise in unlocked or jail broken
configurations than an out of the box phone from a contract provider?

I appreciate all the contributions people have made in the few days I
have been on the list.  I have learned so much already.  I can't wait
to get started on this adventure in independence.

Kelly



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Re: Jail breaking

2012-07-05 Thread Jessica Brown
What is the difference between unlocking and jail breaking? I 
thought that they were 2 separate things.


- Original Message -
From: Blinkin blinkin4...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 17:45:28 -0500
Subject: Re: Jail breaking

I will cover this also in my podcast.
	I have had one or two extra bugs while using voice over on 
my jailbroken iPhone 4 but nothing has ever moved and the 
bugs are certainly easy to live with.
	The two biggest I deal with occasionally are folders closing 
a split second after I open them and I just have to re tap 
the screen and occasionally when I press the sleep button my 
phone will take a screen shot instead of locking.
	to fix this I just tap the home button twice then hit the 
sleep button and it goes right to sleep.
	these are the only issues I have ever had with voice over. 
Everything has worked just fine for me but I have not 
unlocked my phone. Only jailbroken it.
	If I am lucky I will have one of these bugs happen tonight 
when I finish recording.

cheers!

Mike M
On Jul 5, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote:

Greetings from Chicago.  I have never owned a cell phone before 
and
really learned the benefit of one when I was in a suburb and 
asked
folks for directions a few times.  no one could answer my 
questions
directly. they all turned to their smart phones!  I realized I 
could
have the same thing in my hand that was fully accessible.  I 
learned
about the Straight Talk service and discovered that iPhone 
service is
now more affordable than high speed Internet access was when I 
first

subscribed more than 10 years ago.

to use Straight Talk or most of the other prepaid services, it 
is

necessary to unlock the phone. Unlocking usually requires jail
breaking, I understand. Even if it doesn't I would eventually
jailbreak anyway for the added flexibility.  A friend told me 
that
unlocked and jail broken phones are unstable with Voice Over. He 
said
the places where one gestures or taps to initiate actions can 
move or
change. These shifting locations he said can make it difficult 
for a
blind person to use an unlocked phone. For this reason, he urges 
blind

people to use contract service only.

has anyone else experienced this with unlocked or jailbroken 
phones?
Is voice Over less responsive and precise in unlocked or jail 
broken
configurations than an out of the box phone from a contract 
provider?


I appreciate all the contributions people have made in the few 
days I
have been on the list.  I have learned so much already.  I can't 
wait

to get started on this adventure in independence.

Kelly

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Re: Jail breaking

2012-07-05 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
They are very different. Unlocking means your phone is made to work with 
any provider. So, if you have an ATT phone and you unlock it, you can 
use it with another gsm provider like T-mobile. Jailbreaking means you 
gain access to the root of the phone and can do many nice tweaks and add 
other types of apps. Jailbreaking and unlocking are not synonymous.


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On 7/5/2012 7:09 PM, Jessica Brown wrote:

What is the difference between unlocking and jail breaking? I thought
that they were 2 separate things.

- Original Message -
From: Blinkin blinkin4...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 17:45:28 -0500
Subject: Re: Jail breaking

I will cover this also in my podcast.
 I have had one or two extra bugs while using voice over on my
jailbroken iPhone 4 but nothing has ever moved and the bugs are
certainly easy to live with.
 The two biggest I deal with occasionally are folders closing a
split second after I open them and I just have to re tap the screen and
occasionally when I press the sleep button my phone will take a screen
shot instead of locking.
 to fix this I just tap the home button twice then hit the sleep
button and it goes right to sleep.
 these are the only issues I have ever had with voice over.
Everything has worked just fine for me but I have not unlocked my phone.
Only jailbroken it.
 If I am lucky I will have one of these bugs happen tonight when I
finish recording.
 cheers!

Mike M
On Jul 5, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote:

Greetings from Chicago.  I have never owned a cell phone before and
really learned the benefit of one when I was in a suburb and asked
folks for directions a few times.  no one could answer my questions
directly. they all turned to their smart phones!  I realized I could
have the same thing in my hand that was fully accessible.  I learned
about the Straight Talk service and discovered that iPhone service is
now more affordable than high speed Internet access was when I first
subscribed more than 10 years ago.

to use Straight Talk or most of the other prepaid services, it is
necessary to unlock the phone. Unlocking usually requires jail
breaking, I understand. Even if it doesn't I would eventually
jailbreak anyway for the added flexibility.  A friend told me that
unlocked and jail broken phones are unstable with Voice Over. He said
the places where one gestures or taps to initiate actions can move or
change. These shifting locations he said can make it difficult for a
blind person to use an unlocked phone. For this reason, he urges blind
people to use contract service only.

has anyone else experienced this with unlocked or jailbroken phones?
Is voice Over less responsive and precise in unlocked or jail broken
configurations than an out of the box phone from a contract provider?

I appreciate all the contributions people have made in the few days I
have been on the list.  I have learned so much already.  I can't wait
to get started on this adventure in independence.

Kelly

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Re: Jail breaking

2012-07-05 Thread jeremy
Do you not have to jailbreak to unlock the phone though? I'd always 
assumed that in order to unlock the phone, it first must be jailbroken.

Take care.

On 7/5/2012 6:17 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
They are very different. Unlocking means your phone is made to work 
with any provider. So, if you have an ATT phone and you unlock it, 
you can use it with another gsm provider like T-mobile. Jailbreaking 
means you gain access to the root of the phone and can do many nice 
tweaks and add other types of apps. Jailbreaking and unlocking are not 
synonymous.


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On 7/5/2012 7:09 PM, Jessica Brown wrote:

What is the difference between unlocking and jail breaking? I thought
that they were 2 separate things.

- Original Message -
From: Blinkin blinkin4...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 17:45:28 -0500
Subject: Re: Jail breaking

I will cover this also in my podcast.
 I have had one or two extra bugs while using voice over on my
jailbroken iPhone 4 but nothing has ever moved and the bugs are
certainly easy to live with.
 The two biggest I deal with occasionally are folders closing a
split second after I open them and I just have to re tap the screen and
occasionally when I press the sleep button my phone will take a screen
shot instead of locking.
 to fix this I just tap the home button twice then hit the sleep
button and it goes right to sleep.
 these are the only issues I have ever had with voice over.
Everything has worked just fine for me but I have not unlocked my phone.
Only jailbroken it.
 If I am lucky I will have one of these bugs happen tonight when I
finish recording.
 cheers!

Mike M
On Jul 5, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote:

Greetings from Chicago.  I have never owned a cell phone before and
really learned the benefit of one when I was in a suburb and asked
folks for directions a few times.  no one could answer my questions
directly. they all turned to their smart phones!  I realized I could
have the same thing in my hand that was fully accessible.  I learned
about the Straight Talk service and discovered that iPhone service is
now more affordable than high speed Internet access was when I first
subscribed more than 10 years ago.

to use Straight Talk or most of the other prepaid services, it is
necessary to unlock the phone. Unlocking usually requires jail
breaking, I understand. Even if it doesn't I would eventually
jailbreak anyway for the added flexibility.  A friend told me that
unlocked and jail broken phones are unstable with Voice Over. He said
the places where one gestures or taps to initiate actions can move or
change. These shifting locations he said can make it difficult for a
blind person to use an unlocked phone. For this reason, he urges blind
people to use contract service only.

has anyone else experienced this with unlocked or jailbroken phones?
Is voice Over less responsive and precise in unlocked or jail broken
configurations than an out of the box phone from a contract provider?

I appreciate all the contributions people have made in the few days I
have been on the list.  I have learned so much already.  I can't wait
to get started on this adventure in independence.

Kelly

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RE: Jail breaking

2012-07-05 Thread Joseph Lee
Hi,
You don't have to jailbreak first - apple do sell an unlocked iPhone for
about 800 dollars.
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of jeremy
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 4:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Jail breaking

Do you not have to jailbreak to unlock the phone though? I'd always assumed
that in order to unlock the phone, it first must be jailbroken.
Take care.

On 7/5/2012 6:17 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
 They are very different. Unlocking means your phone is made to work 
 with any provider. So, if you have an ATT phone and you unlock it, 
 you can use it with another gsm provider like T-mobile. Jailbreaking 
 means you gain access to the root of the phone and can do many nice 
 tweaks and add other types of apps. Jailbreaking and unlocking are not 
 synonymous.

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 On 7/5/2012 7:09 PM, Jessica Brown wrote:
 What is the difference between unlocking and jail breaking? I thought 
 that they were 2 separate things.

 - Original Message -
 From: Blinkin blinkin4...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Date sent: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 17:45:28 -0500
 Subject: Re: Jail breaking

 I will cover this also in my podcast.
  I have had one or two extra bugs while using voice over on my 
 jailbroken iPhone 4 but nothing has ever moved and the bugs are 
 certainly easy to live with.
  The two biggest I deal with occasionally are folders closing a 
 split second after I open them and I just have to re tap the screen 
 and occasionally when I press the sleep button my phone will take a 
 screen shot instead of locking.
  to fix this I just tap the home button twice then hit the sleep 
 button and it goes right to sleep.
  these are the only issues I have ever had with voice over.
 Everything has worked just fine for me but I have not unlocked my phone.
 Only jailbroken it.
  If I am lucky I will have one of these bugs happen tonight when 
 I finish recording.
  cheers!

 Mike M
 On Jul 5, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote:

 Greetings from Chicago.  I have never owned a cell phone before and 
 really learned the benefit of one when I was in a suburb and asked 
 folks for directions a few times.  no one could answer my questions 
 directly. they all turned to their smart phones!  I realized I could 
 have the same thing in my hand that was fully accessible.  I learned 
 about the Straight Talk service and discovered that iPhone service is 
 now more affordable than high speed Internet access was when I first 
 subscribed more than 10 years ago.

 to use Straight Talk or most of the other prepaid services, it is 
 necessary to unlock the phone. Unlocking usually requires jail 
 breaking, I understand. Even if it doesn't I would eventually 
 jailbreak anyway for the added flexibility.  A friend told me that 
 unlocked and jail broken phones are unstable with Voice Over. He said 
 the places where one gestures or taps to initiate actions can move or 
 change. These shifting locations he said can make it difficult for a 
 blind person to use an unlocked phone. For this reason, he urges 
 blind people to use contract service only.

 has anyone else experienced this with unlocked or jailbroken phones?
 Is voice Over less responsive and precise in unlocked or jail broken 
 configurations than an out of the box phone from a contract provider?

 I appreciate all the contributions people have made in the few days I 
 have been on the list.  I have learned so much already.  I can't wait 
 to get started on this adventure in independence.

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Re: Jail breaking

2012-07-05 Thread Kelly Pierce
I believe if I were to purchase a used iPhone 4s that someone had used
on ATT, I would need to jailbreak it to unlock it, from the various
tutorials I have read.

Kelly



On 7/5/12, Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 You don't have to jailbreak first - apple do sell an unlocked iPhone for
 about 800 dollars.
 Cheers,
 Joseph

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of jeremy
 Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 4:27 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Jail breaking

 Do you not have to jailbreak to unlock the phone though? I'd always assumed
 that in order to unlock the phone, it first must be jailbroken.
 Take care.

 On 7/5/2012 6:17 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
 They are very different. Unlocking means your phone is made to work
 with any provider. So, if you have an ATT phone and you unlock it,
 you can use it with another gsm provider like T-mobile. Jailbreaking
 means you gain access to the root of the phone and can do many nice
 tweaks and add other types of apps. Jailbreaking and unlocking are not
 synonymous.

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 On 7/5/2012 7:09 PM, Jessica Brown wrote:
 What is the difference between unlocking and jail breaking? I thought
 that they were 2 separate things.

 - Original Message -
 From: Blinkin blinkin4...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Date sent: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 17:45:28 -0500
 Subject: Re: Jail breaking

 I will cover this also in my podcast.
  I have had one or two extra bugs while using voice over on my
 jailbroken iPhone 4 but nothing has ever moved and the bugs are
 certainly easy to live with.
  The two biggest I deal with occasionally are folders closing a
 split second after I open them and I just have to re tap the screen
 and occasionally when I press the sleep button my phone will take a
 screen shot instead of locking.
  to fix this I just tap the home button twice then hit the sleep
 button and it goes right to sleep.
  these are the only issues I have ever had with voice over.
 Everything has worked just fine for me but I have not unlocked my phone.
 Only jailbroken it.
  If I am lucky I will have one of these bugs happen tonight when
 I finish recording.
  cheers!

 Mike M
 On Jul 5, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote:

 Greetings from Chicago.  I have never owned a cell phone before and
 really learned the benefit of one when I was in a suburb and asked
 folks for directions a few times.  no one could answer my questions
 directly. they all turned to their smart phones!  I realized I could
 have the same thing in my hand that was fully accessible.  I learned
 about the Straight Talk service and discovered that iPhone service is
 now more affordable than high speed Internet access was when I first
 subscribed more than 10 years ago.

 to use Straight Talk or most of the other prepaid services, it is
 necessary to unlock the phone. Unlocking usually requires jail
 breaking, I understand. Even if it doesn't I would eventually
 jailbreak anyway for the added flexibility.  A friend told me that
 unlocked and jail broken phones are unstable with Voice Over. He said
 the places where one gestures or taps to initiate actions can move or
 change. These shifting locations he said can make it difficult for a
 blind person to use an unlocked phone. For this reason, he urges
 blind people to use contract service only.

 has anyone else experienced this with unlocked or jailbroken phones?
 Is voice Over less responsive and precise in unlocked or jail broken
 configurations than an out of the box phone from a contract provider?

 I appreciate all the contributions people have made in the few days I
 have been on the list.  I have learned so much already.  I can't wait
 to get started on this adventure in independence.

 Kelly

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Re: Jail breaking

2012-07-05 Thread Ben Mustill-Rose
Hi,

That is correct, although there is currently no unofficial unlock for
the 4S, so jailbreaking won't help.
I'll also echo what Raul has already said about your friend; there
simply is no way that he is talking from experience because that just
doesn't happen. In contrast, everyone? contributing in this topic has
at some point jailbroken their device, so in theory, the information
offered will be much more accurate.
My accessibility experiences concerning jailbreaking have infact all
been positive. Up until around 1.5 years ago, Cydia, the jailbroken
app store was completely inaccessible. A couple of us emailed the
developer and it was made completely accessible in the next version.
An app that some of us use called voice activator used to crash when
vo was turned on. Once I found this out, I emailed the developer and
from memory a fixed version was released the next day.

Cheers,
Ben.

On 7/6/12, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote:
 I believe if I were to purchase a used iPhone 4s that someone had used
 on ATT, I would need to jailbreak it to unlock it, from the various
 tutorials I have read.

 Kelly



 On 7/5/12, Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 You don't have to jailbreak first - apple do sell an unlocked iPhone for
 about 800 dollars.
 Cheers,
 Joseph

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of jeremy
 Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 4:27 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Jail breaking

 Do you not have to jailbreak to unlock the phone though? I'd always
 assumed
 that in order to unlock the phone, it first must be jailbroken.
 Take care.

 On 7/5/2012 6:17 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote:
 They are very different. Unlocking means your phone is made to work
 with any provider. So, if you have an ATT phone and you unlock it,
 you can use it with another gsm provider like T-mobile. Jailbreaking
 means you gain access to the root of the phone and can do many nice
 tweaks and add other types of apps. Jailbreaking and unlocking are not
 synonymous.

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 On 7/5/2012 7:09 PM, Jessica Brown wrote:
 What is the difference between unlocking and jail breaking? I thought
 that they were 2 separate things.

 - Original Message -
 From: Blinkin blinkin4...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Date sent: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 17:45:28 -0500
 Subject: Re: Jail breaking

 I will cover this also in my podcast.
  I have had one or two extra bugs while using voice over on my
 jailbroken iPhone 4 but nothing has ever moved and the bugs are
 certainly easy to live with.
  The two biggest I deal with occasionally are folders closing a
 split second after I open them and I just have to re tap the screen
 and occasionally when I press the sleep button my phone will take a
 screen shot instead of locking.
  to fix this I just tap the home button twice then hit the sleep
 button and it goes right to sleep.
  these are the only issues I have ever had with voice over.
 Everything has worked just fine for me but I have not unlocked my
 phone.
 Only jailbroken it.
  If I am lucky I will have one of these bugs happen tonight when
 I finish recording.
  cheers!

 Mike M
 On Jul 5, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote:

 Greetings from Chicago.  I have never owned a cell phone before and
 really learned the benefit of one when I was in a suburb and asked
 folks for directions a few times.  no one could answer my questions
 directly. they all turned to their smart phones!  I realized I could
 have the same thing in my hand that was fully accessible.  I learned
 about the Straight Talk service and discovered that iPhone service is
 now more affordable than high speed Internet access was when I first
 subscribed more than 10 years ago.

 to use Straight Talk or most of the other prepaid services, it is
 necessary to unlock the phone. Unlocking usually requires jail
 breaking, I understand. Even if it doesn't I would eventually
 jailbreak anyway for the added flexibility.  A friend told me that
 unlocked and jail broken phones are unstable with Voice Over. He said
 the places where one gestures or taps to initiate actions can move or
 change. These shifting locations he said can make it difficult for a
 blind person to use an unlocked phone. For this reason, he urges
 blind people to use contract service only.

 has anyone else experienced this with unlocked or jailbroken phones?
 Is voice Over less responsive and precise in unlocked or jail broken
 configurations than an out of the box phone from a contract provider?

 I appreciate all the contributions people have made in the few days I
 have been on the list.  I have learned so much already.  I can't wait
 to get started on this adventure in independence

RE: Jail breaking

2012-07-05 Thread Jon Pierson
Hi Kelly,
I've found 1 JB app that has issues with scrolling but I've also seen a few
apps from the Appstore with bad accessibility implementation.

So the short answer is, no problem with VO, Cydia etc. I find the JB
community pretty VO-aware. You either ran into someone who is a bit of a
nervous nelly or who is misinformed or who has overreacted to one bad
experience or perhaps there was a hardware problem. App conflicts can
happen, some sighted folks have had a recent conflict between Anavo Extend
and some other apps, can't remember the particular situation right off.
So Jailbreak away, and restore if you don't see any benefits.

Jon
 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kelly Pierce
Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 3:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Jail breaking

Greetings from Chicago.  I have never owned a cell phone before and really
learned the benefit of one when I was in a suburb and asked folks for
directions a few times.  no one could answer my questions directly. they all
turned to their smart phones!  I realized I could have the same thing in my
hand that was fully accessible.  I learned about the Straight Talk service
and discovered that iPhone service is now more affordable than high speed
Internet access was when I first subscribed more than 10 years ago.

to use Straight Talk or most of the other prepaid services, it is necesssary
to unlock the phone. Unlocking usually requires jail breaking, I understand.
Even if it doesn't I would eventually jailbreak anyway for the added
flexability.  A friend told me that unlocked and jail broken phones are
unstable with Voice Over. He said the places where one gestures or taps to
initiate actions can move or change. These shifting locations he said can
make it difficult for a blind person to use an unlocked phone. For this
reason, he urges blind people to use contract service only.

has anyone else experienced this with unlocked or jailbroken phones?
Is voice Over less responsive and precise in unlocked or jail broken
configurations than an out of the box phone from a contract provider?

I appreciate all the contributions people have made in the few days I have
been on the list.  I have learned so much already.  I can't wait to get
started on this adventure in independence.

Kelly

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Re: Jail breaking

2012-07-04 Thread Scott Howell
John,

What if you elect to upgrade your phone and subsequently not jailbreak the 
device? I assume you can reload those apps acquired from Cydia? I assume you 
cannot upgrade those apps since you would not have access to the Cydia app 
store unless you jailbreak again?

On Jul 3, 2012, at 10:36 PM, Jon Pierson wrote:

 Hi Scott,
 A few ways to backup up Cydia have been mentioned here, but the answer is
 that you don't lose your apps or pay for them again. You simply login to
 cydia, grab your backup program and restore everything or use the backup
 file created for you in some cases.
 
 Jon
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Scott Howell
 Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 6:10 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Jail breaking
 
 Although once you jailbreak your device you cannot upgrade to the latest
 version of the OS until someone comes out with a jailbreak for that version.
 I'm also curious if you loose your apps you purchased or obtained from the
 non-Apple sources.
 
 On Jul 3, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
 
 I haven't done it myself, but you should be able to wipe your phone 
 and reinstall IOS on it, so it'll never appear that it was ever unbroken.
 
 On 03/07/12 19:17, thomas williams wrote:
 Once you jail-break can you also unjail break?
 
 
 
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RE: Jail breaking

2012-07-04 Thread Jon Pierson
Hi Scott,
You got it.

Jon

 

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Of Scott Howell
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 3:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Jail breaking

John,

What if you elect to upgrade your phone and subsequently not jailbreak the
device? I assume you can reload those apps acquired from Cydia? I assume you
cannot upgrade those apps since you would not have access to the Cydia app
store unless you jailbreak again?

On Jul 3, 2012, at 10:36 PM, Jon Pierson wrote:

 Hi Scott,
 A few ways to backup up Cydia have been mentioned here, but the answer 
 is that you don't lose your apps or pay for them again. You simply 
 login to cydia, grab your backup program and restore everything or use 
 the backup file created for you in some cases.
 
 Jon
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Scott Howell
 Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 6:10 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Jail breaking
 
 Although once you jailbreak your device you cannot upgrade to the 
 latest version of the OS until someone comes out with a jailbreak for that
version.
 I'm also curious if you loose your apps you purchased or obtained from 
 the non-Apple sources.
 
 On Jul 3, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
 
 I haven't done it myself, but you should be able to wipe your phone 
 and reinstall IOS on it, so it'll never appear that it was ever unbroken.
 
 On 03/07/12 19:17, thomas williams wrote:
 Once you jail-break can you also unjail break?
 
 
 
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Re: Jail breaking

2012-07-04 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, you can get your apps you paid for back even if you restore from 
ajjailbreak. Most apps paid via Cydia are done through paypal or Amazon 
payments. Both easy to set up. Apps like PWN Tunes can also be paid for 
via cydia, but you can pay them directly if you wish. However when you 
pay them directly, I think it costs more. Then there are other places 
which do their own charging. For example PDA Net and Google Voice Phone 
Extension. They accept Paypal, but you do it through their own site. In 
the case of PDA Net, I received an unlock code which I put into the 
program and it works.


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On 7/3/2012 10:05 PM, jeremy wrote:

I'm wondering the same thing. If you were to purchase an app, pwtunes
being one that I'm seriously considering, can you reuse your license
information once you've updated or restored and went through the
jailbreaking process again? Also, what are the different methods for
paying for apps through cydia? PwTunes's page was clear enough on price,
if not how to actually pay for it, but PDANet wasn't so obvious.
Thanks.
Take care.

On 7/3/2012 8:09 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

Although once you jailbreak your device you cannot upgrade to the
latest version of the OS until someone comes out with a jailbreak for
that version. I'm also curious if you loose your apps you purchased or
obtained from the non-Apple sources.

On Jul 3, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:


I haven't done it myself, but you should be able to wipe your phone and
reinstall IOS on it, so it'll never appear that it was ever unbroken.

On 03/07/12 19:17, thomas williams wrote:

Once you jail-break can you also unjail break?



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Re: Jail breaking

2012-07-04 Thread James Mannion
However, unless I am incorrect, what is not being made clear here is
there would be no way to load the jailbreak apps, even the versions
you have, on a device that has not been jailbroken. You would not only
have the restriction of not being able to upgrade them, but I do not
think you could load them on a new device not yet jailbroken, right?
You are not going to find your jailbroken apps in ITunes, right?

On 7/4/12, Jon Pierson joncpier...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Scott,
 You got it.

 Jon



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 Of Scott Howell
 Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 3:14 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Jail breaking

 John,

 What if you elect to upgrade your phone and subsequently not jailbreak the
 device? I assume you can reload those apps acquired from Cydia? I assume
 you
 cannot upgrade those apps since you would not have access to the Cydia app
 store unless you jailbreak again?

 On Jul 3, 2012, at 10:36 PM, Jon Pierson wrote:

 Hi Scott,
 A few ways to backup up Cydia have been mentioned here, but the answer
 is that you don't lose your apps or pay for them again. You simply
 login to cydia, grab your backup program and restore everything or use
 the backup file created for you in some cases.

 Jon



 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Scott Howell
 Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 6:10 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Jail breaking

 Although once you jailbreak your device you cannot upgrade to the
 latest version of the OS until someone comes out with a jailbreak for
 that
 version.
 I'm also curious if you loose your apps you purchased or obtained from
 the non-Apple sources.

 On Jul 3, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

 I haven't done it myself, but you should be able to wipe your phone
 and reinstall IOS on it, so it'll never appear that it was ever
 unbroken.

 On 03/07/12 19:17, thomas williams wrote:
 Once you jail-break can you also unjail break?



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RE: Jail breaking

2012-07-04 Thread Joseph Lee
Hi,
It'll depend on kinds of data that iTunes backs up from iDevice. If it
copies application directories that is also used by jailbreak apps, then
there is a potential for them to show up (at least in the file system) on a
non jailbroken device; but here's the catch: even if the jailbreak apps do
find their way into new devices (non jailbroken), there's no way to find and
run them, as the operating system blocks these thanks to what's called
privileges - under Unix (for which iOS/Mac OS X family is based on), you
cannot run an app that requires higher user level unless you allow it
yourself or through some exploits (essentially, a jailbreak package takes
advantage of security holes or bugs to exploit what's usually termed
privilege escalation) to modify the behavior of the OS, thereby allowing
jailbreak apps to run (it is like using a Windows PC as an admin with User
Account Control turned off)). So, although jailbreak can be fun, it also has
security issues if not handled properly.
As for upgrading, think of it like this: suppose you're upgrading a car
engine, and you wish to make sure that the engine you are working with is
the kind that the maker approves. One day, a friend of yours decided to test
an engine enhancer, and as a result, modified the engine behavior a bit.
Then you decide the upgrade the modified engine to the newer one, but found
that the engine was not behaving as you expected. Moreover, the upgrade kit
would not work on the current engine due to some deeper modifications your
friend has made. So you ask your friend to undo his modification so you can
upgrade the engine after. Similar thing can be said about operating systems:
the OS maker expects certain behavior, but the target guy is acting odd, so
the OS maker asks the user to restore the original functionality before
upgrading the OS.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Joseph

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of James Mannion
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 12:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Jail breaking

However, unless I am incorrect, what is not being made clear here is there
would be no way to load the jailbreak apps, even the versions you have, on a
device that has not been jailbroken. You would not only have the restriction
of not being able to upgrade them, but I do not think you could load them on
a new device not yet jailbroken, right?
You are not going to find your jailbroken apps in ITunes, right?

On 7/4/12, Jon Pierson joncpier...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Scott,
 You got it.

 Jon



 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Scott Howell
 Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 3:14 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Jail breaking

 John,

 What if you elect to upgrade your phone and subsequently not jailbreak 
 the device? I assume you can reload those apps acquired from Cydia? I 
 assume you cannot upgrade those apps since you would not have access 
 to the Cydia app store unless you jailbreak again?

 On Jul 3, 2012, at 10:36 PM, Jon Pierson wrote:

 Hi Scott,
 A few ways to backup up Cydia have been mentioned here, but the 
 answer is that you don't lose your apps or pay for them again. You 
 simply login to cydia, grab your backup program and restore 
 everything or use the backup file created for you in some cases.

 Jon



 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Scott Howell
 Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 6:10 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Jail breaking

 Although once you jailbreak your device you cannot upgrade to the 
 latest version of the OS until someone comes out with a jailbreak for 
 that
 version.
 I'm also curious if you loose your apps you purchased or obtained 
 from the non-Apple sources.

 On Jul 3, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

 I haven't done it myself, but you should be able to wipe your phone 
 and reinstall IOS on it, so it'll never appear that it was ever 
 unbroken.

 On 03/07/12 19:17, thomas williams wrote:
 Once you jail-break can you also unjail break?



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Re: Jail breaking

2012-07-04 Thread Raul A. Gallegos

Correct, jailbreak apps can only be loaded onto a jailbroken iPHone or iPod.

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On 7/4/2012 3:11 PM, James Mannion wrote:

However, unless I am incorrect, what is not being made clear here is
there would be no way to load the jailbreak apps, even the versions
you have, on a device that has not been jailbroken. You would not only
have the restriction of not being able to upgrade them, but I do not
think you could load them on a new device not yet jailbroken, right?
You are not going to find your jailbroken apps in ITunes, right?

On 7/4/12, Jon Pierson joncpier...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Scott,
You got it.

Jon



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Of Scott Howell
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Jail breaking

John,

What if you elect to upgrade your phone and subsequently not jailbreak the
device? I assume you can reload those apps acquired from Cydia? I assume
you
cannot upgrade those apps since you would not have access to the Cydia app
store unless you jailbreak again?

On Jul 3, 2012, at 10:36 PM, Jon Pierson wrote:


Hi Scott,
A few ways to backup up Cydia have been mentioned here, but the answer
is that you don't lose your apps or pay for them again. You simply
login to cydia, grab your backup program and restore everything or use
the backup file created for you in some cases.

Jon



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Behalf Of Scott Howell
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 6:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Jail breaking

Although once you jailbreak your device you cannot upgrade to the
latest version of the OS until someone comes out with a jailbreak for
that

version.

I'm also curious if you loose your apps you purchased or obtained from
the non-Apple sources.

On Jul 3, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:


I haven't done it myself, but you should be able to wipe your phone
and reinstall IOS on it, so it'll never appear that it was ever
unbroken.

On 03/07/12 19:17, thomas williams wrote:

Once you jail-break can you also unjail break?




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Re: Jail breaking

2012-07-04 Thread Raul A. Gallegos

Just do a reset and you will be unjailbroken.

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Re: Jail breaking

2012-07-04 Thread Mike Maslo
Hi list

Was wondering if there is anyone out there who can give me step-by-step 
instructions on how to using sb settings or activation

Any help would be greatly appreciated

Sent from my iPhone

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 On 7/4/2012 3:11 PM, James Mannion wrote:
 However, unless I am incorrect, what is not being made clear here is
 there would be no way to load the jailbreak apps, even the versions
 you have, on a device that has not been jailbroken. You would not only
 have the restriction of not being able to upgrade them, but I do not
 think you could load them on a new device not yet jailbroken, right?
 You are not going to find your jailbroken apps in ITunes, right?
 
 On 7/4/12, Jon Pierson joncpier...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi Scott,
 You got it.
 
 Jon
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Scott Howell
 Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 3:14 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Jail breaking
 
 John,
 
 What if you elect to upgrade your phone and subsequently not jailbreak the
 device? I assume you can reload those apps acquired from Cydia? I assume
 you
 cannot upgrade those apps since you would not have access to the Cydia app
 store unless you jailbreak again?
 
 On Jul 3, 2012, at 10:36 PM, Jon Pierson wrote:
 
 Hi Scott,
 A few ways to backup up Cydia have been mentioned here, but the answer
 is that you don't lose your apps or pay for them again. You simply
 login to cydia, grab your backup program and restore everything or use
 the backup file created for you in some cases.
 
 Jon
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf Of Scott Howell
 Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 6:10 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Jail breaking
 
 Although once you jailbreak your device you cannot upgrade to the
 latest version of the OS until someone comes out with a jailbreak for
 that
 version.
 I'm also curious if you loose your apps you purchased or obtained from
 the non-Apple sources.
 
 On Jul 3, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:
 
 I haven't done it myself, but you should be able to wipe your phone
 and reinstall IOS on it, so it'll never appear that it was ever
 unbroken.
 
 On 03/07/12 19:17, thomas williams wrote:
 Once you jail-break can you also unjail break?
 
 
 
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Re: Jail breaking

2012-07-03 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I haven't done it myself, but you should be able to wipe your phone and
reinstall IOS on it, so it'll never appear that it was ever unbroken.

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RE: Jail breaking

2012-07-03 Thread Jon Pierson
Hi Thomas,
Yes you sure can, I've had to do that before updating to a newer version of
IOS. But once your JB apps are backed up the whole process (including the
iCloud restore) takes about 45 minutes.

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RE: Jail breaking

2012-07-03 Thread Jon Pierson
Hi Scott,
A few ways to backup up Cydia have been mentioned here, but the answer is
that you don't lose your apps or pay for them again. You simply login to
cydia, grab your backup program and restore everything or use the backup
file created for you in some cases.

Jon

 

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Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 6:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Jail breaking

Although once you jailbreak your device you cannot upgrade to the latest
version of the OS until someone comes out with a jailbreak for that version.
I'm also curious if you loose your apps you purchased or obtained from the
non-Apple sources.

On Jul 3, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

 I haven't done it myself, but you should be able to wipe your phone 
 and reinstall IOS on it, so it'll never appear that it was ever unbroken.
 
 On 03/07/12 19:17, thomas williams wrote:
 Once you jail-break can you also unjail break?
 
 
 
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Re: Jail breaking

2012-07-03 Thread James Mannion
Cydia lets you use paypal or Amazon. There may be another like google
or something. I have not looked into Amazon's payment service much
yet. I think they have one similar to paypal and I assume that is what
Cydia is referring to with that.


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 Yes you sure can, I've had to do that before updating to a newer version of
 IOS. But once your JB apps are backed up the whole process (including the
 iCloud restore) takes about 45 minutes.

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RE: Jail breaking

2012-07-03 Thread Jon Pierson
Hi jeremy,
Usually folks link their Facebook accounts or Google accounts to Cydia for
verification purposes only. Everything I've purchased so far has been
through Paypal.

Jon

 

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Subject: Re: Jail breaking

I'm wondering the same thing. If you were to purchase an app, pwtunes being
one that I'm seriously considering, can you reuse your license information
once you've updated or restored and went through the jailbreaking process
again? Also, what are the different methods for paying for apps through
cydia? PwTunes's page was clear enough on price, if not how to actually pay
for it, but PDANet wasn't so obvious.
Thanks.
Take care.

On 7/3/2012 8:09 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
 Although once you jailbreak your device you cannot upgrade to the latest
version of the OS until someone comes out with a jailbreak for that version.
I'm also curious if you loose your apps you purchased or obtained from the
non-Apple sources.

 On Jul 3, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote:

 I haven't done it myself, but you should be able to wipe your phone 
 and reinstall IOS on it, so it'll never appear that it was ever unbroken.

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Jail Breaking, What Does This Mean?

2012-06-11 Thread Arnold Schmidt
Being new, I ask:  I think jail breaking a phone means that one can install 
apps onto it that are not approved by apple.  What is ssh?  Most importantly, 
will this void my warranty, or will apple deny me updates because they think I 
have an illegal phone?  I do not think one can get updates for an unlocked 
phone, I may not be correct about that.  And I assume that jail breaking and 
unlocking are not the same.  Thanks for clarification.

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re: Jail Breaking, What Does This Mean?

2012-06-11 Thread Joseph Lee

Hi,
To explain jailbreaking, I think we need to visit operating 
system security and user levels.  But first:
Yes - jailbreaking and unlocking are two different things.  
Jailbreaking means using some OS exploit to run programs using a 
different user's privilege, whereas unlocking means allowing a 
device to be used on any carrier (as many phones are locked to 
specific carriers).

Now onto the subject at hand:
There are at least two user modes under Unix (which is the basis 
for iOS and Mac OS X and other OS's such as Linux): root and 
normal user.  The root is the user which has total control ovth 
files and programs on Unix, such as program installation, file 
system modification and so on.  Many Unix systems run in normal 
user mode for most of the time - and iOS follows this.
Under iOS, there are two users defined (although it may not 
appear to be so): root and mobile.  Root is the admin account 
while mobile is the regular user mode of the iOS.  What dailbreak 
does is it changes the running mode of the iDevice to that of 
root mode where the device user has total control over files and 
programs on an iDevice.  This allows installation of apps not 
authorized by Apple and to perform other things such as modifying 
how the device works by using tweaks and changing files.
But you may ask, how can I access my iDevice from my computer? 
This is where SSH (Secure Shell) comes in.  This is a terminal 
environment where a computer can access another computer over it 
network.  A good example is remote website administration from a 
home computer.  In order for this to work, the target device must 
be told to accept incoming SSH connections (in this case, by 
jailbreaking it and installing OpenSSH).  From the local computer 
(the one which will be accessing the iDevice), the user needs to 
know the IP address of the iDevice, its root userdayn and 
password (by %default, it is root for user^n and allpine for 
password; it is recommended to change the password).  Because 
we're using root user mode,
be careful about what you do with file system in iDevice - one 
wrfg change and it requires restore via iTunes, which installs 
regular firmware instead of jailbroken firmware.
Finally, let us investigate how jailbreaking is even possible.  
Operating systems, like any programs, contains well-known bugs 
and opportunities for programmers to mess around with it (at 
least through bugs and programs).  For example, there was a bug 
fix release by Apple last year because some PDCF documents made 
the device unstable, which was used by jailbreak programmers 
(this is callbed exploit, that of using a bug to mess around in 
an OS).  So in order for jailbreak to work, programmers need four 
things: the exploitable bug itself in a device firmware, a 
modified firmware that allows root control of a device, a way of 
transfering this new firmware and making it permanent (called 
untethered jailbreak).  First, the programmers find out the 
exploit in a firmware, prepares a new (modified or unlocked) 
firmware that be^akes advantage of the exploit and makes it 
availible to others.  Then the jailbreak package connects to the 
iDevice (mostly via iTunes connection) and embbeds the newly 
modified firmware to the device's memory.  Then it does some 
modifications to make this patch permanent unless restoration via 
iTunes occurs, at which point the jailbreak will be undone by 
flashing the

official firmware from Apple.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Joseph

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From: Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 02:57:52 -0400
Subject: Jail Breaking, What Does This Mean?

Being new, I ask:  I think jail breaking a phone means that one 
can install apps onto it that are not approved by apple.  What is 
ssh?  Most importantly, will this void my warranty, or will apple 
deny me updates because they think I have an illegal phone?  I do 
not think one can get updates for an unlocked phone, I may not be 
correct about that.  And I assume that jail breaking and 
unlocking are not the same.  Thanks for clarification.


Arnold Schmidt

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Re: Jail Breaking, What Does This Mean?

2012-06-11 Thread chris hallsworth
Jailbreaking is not illegal however it will void any Apple warranties 
you have. But it is certainly not illegal. SSH I think allows you to 
securely connect to a remote machine.



Christopher Hallsworth


On 11/06/2012 07:57, Arnold Schmidt wrote:

Being new, I ask:  I think jail breaking a phone means that one can install 
apps onto it that are not approved by apple.  What is ssh?  Most importantly, 
will this void my warranty, or will apple deny me updates because they think I 
have an illegal phone?  I do not think one can get updates for an unlocked 
phone, I may not be correct about that.  And I assume that jail breaking and 
unlocking are not the same.  Thanks for clarification.

Arnold Schmidt



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RE: Jail Breaking, What Does This Mean?

2012-06-11 Thread Jon Pierson
Hi Arnold,
You can always restore your phone through settings if you need to take it in
to Apple.

Jon
 

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Of Arnold Schmidt
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 11:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Jail Breaking, What Does This Mean?

Being new, I ask:  I think jail breaking a phone means that one can install
apps onto it that are not approved by apple.  What is ssh?  Most
importantly, will this void my warranty, or will apple deny me updates
because they think I have an illegal phone?  I do not think one can get
updates for an unlocked phone, I may not be correct about that.  And I
assume that jail breaking and unlocking are not the same.  Thanks for
clarification.
 
Arnold Schmidt

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Re: Jail Breaking, What Does This Mean?

2012-06-11 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
H, to answer the other question, jailbreaking and unlocking are not the 
same. Jailbreaking is getting out of the sandbox experience and allowing 
you to add tweaks or other apps which Apple normally doesn't allow. It 
enables you to do cool things with your phone which you can't normally 
do. Unlocking makes your phone usable with other carriers like T-mobile. 
You can jailbreak without unlocking and you can unlock without 
jailbreaking. Or, you can do both.


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On 6/11/2012 2:57 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:

Being new, I ask:  I think jail breaking a phone means that one can
install apps onto it that are not approved by apple.  What is ssh?  Most
importantly, will this void my warranty, or will apple deny me updates
because they think I have an illegal phone?  I do not think one can get
updates for an unlocked phone, I may not be correct about that.  And I
assume that jail breaking and unlocking are not the same.  Thanks for
clarification.
Arnold Schmidt

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Re: Jail Breaking, What Does This Mean?

2012-06-11 Thread jack
I would like to have some tips on unlocking a iphone 3g.  The unit is 
presently locked to att.

Thanks much.
larry

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From: Raul A. Gallegos

Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 1:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Jail Breaking, What Does This Mean?

H, to answer the other question, jailbreaking and unlocking are not the
same. Jailbreaking is getting out of the sandbox experience and allowing
you to add tweaks or other apps which Apple normally doesn't allow. It
enables you to do cool things with your phone which you can't normally
do. Unlocking makes your phone usable with other carriers like T-mobile.
You can jailbreak without unlocking and you can unlock without
jailbreaking. Or, you can do both.

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On 6/11/2012 2:57 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote:

Being new, I ask:  I think jail breaking a phone means that one can
install apps onto it that are not approved by apple.  What is ssh?  Most
importantly, will this void my warranty, or will apple deny me updates
because they think I have an illegal phone?  I do not think one can get
updates for an unlocked phone, I may not be correct about that.  And I
assume that jail breaking and unlocking are not the same.  Thanks for
clarification.
Arnold Schmidt

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Re: Jail Breaking, What Does This Mean?

2012-06-11 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
...And if I was a total non-techy, the below message would have made me 
run away screaming, and never want to jailbreak. grin. Seriously 
Joseph, sometimes you have to keep it simple, sort of like on the 
Braille Sense list. In short, non-techy terms, jailbreaking allows you 
to add tweaks or features or abilities to the iPhone which normally 
can't be done.


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On 6/11/2012 3:32 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,
To explain jailbreaking, I think we need to visit operating system
security and user levels.  But first:
Yes - jailbreaking and unlocking are two different things. Jailbreaking
means using some OS exploit to run programs using a different user's
privilege, whereas unlocking means allowing a device to be used on any
carrier (as many phones are locked to specific carriers).
Now onto the subject at hand:
There are at least two user modes under Unix (which is the basis for iOS
and Mac OS X and other OS's such as Linux): root and normal user.  The
root is the user which has total control ovth files and programs on
Unix, such as program installation, file system modification and so on.
Many Unix systems run in normal user mode for most of the time - and iOS
follows this.
Under iOS, there are two users defined (although it may not appear to be
so): root and mobile.  Root is the admin account while mobile is the
regular user mode of the iOS.  What dailbreak does is it changes the
running mode of the iDevice to that of root mode where the device user
has total control over files and programs on an iDevice.  This allows
installation of apps not authorized by Apple and to perform other things
such as modifying how the device works by using tweaks and changing files.
But you may ask, how can I access my iDevice from my computer? This is
where SSH (Secure Shell) comes in.  This is a terminal environment where
a computer can access another computer over it network.  A good example
is remote website administration from a home computer.  In order for
this to work, the target device must be told to accept incoming SSH
connections (in this case, by jailbreaking it and installing OpenSSH).
 From the local computer (the one which will be accessing the iDevice),
the user needs to know the IP address of the iDevice, its root userdayn
and password (by %default, it is root for user^n and allpine for
password; it is recommended to change the password).  Because we're
using root user mode,
be careful about what you do with file system in iDevice - one wrfg
change and it requires restore via iTunes, which installs regular
firmware instead of jailbroken firmware.
Finally, let us investigate how jailbreaking is even possible. Operating
systems, like any programs, contains well-known bugs and opportunities
for programmers to mess around with it (at least through bugs and
programs).  For example, there was a bug fix release by Apple last year
because some PDCF documents made the device unstable, which was used by
jailbreak programmers (this is callbed exploit, that of using a bug to
mess around in an OS).  So in order for jailbreak to work, programmers
need four things: the exploitable bug itself in a device firmware, a
modified firmware that allows root control of a device, a way of
transfering this new firmware and making it permanent (called
untethered jailbreak).  First, the programmers find out the exploit in
a firmware, prepares a new (modified or unlocked) firmware that be^akes
advantage of the exploit and makes it availible to others.  Then the
jailbreak package connects to the iDevice (mostly via iTunes connection)
and embbeds the newly modified firmware to the device's memory.  Then it
does some modifications to make this patch permanent unless restoration
via iTunes occurs, at which point the jailbreak will be undone by
flashing the
official firmware from Apple.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Joseph

- Original Message -
From: Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 02:57:52 -0400
Subject: Jail Breaking, What Does This Mean?

Being new, I ask:  I think jail breaking a phone means that one can
install apps onto it that are not approved by apple.  What is ssh?  Most
importantly, will this void my warranty, or will apple deny me updates
because they think I have an illegal phone?  I do not think one can get
updates for an unlocked phone, I may not be correct about that.  And I
assume that jail breaking and unlocking are not the same.  Thanks for
clarification.

Arnold Schmidt

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Re: Jail Breaking, What Does This Mean?

2012-06-11 Thread Arnold Schmidt
I would like to say thanks, Joseph, for writing your explanation of jail 
breaking, even though I really didn't understand much of it.  The fault is 
mine, not yours.  What I did gather is that when I get an IPhone, I will 
leave the doing of such things to others, and just take what Apple allows me 
to install.  This is one area where I think the android phones are way ahead 
of the IPhones, in that it is open source, and encourages innovation.  Even 
though I am leaning toward an IPhone at this time, I do believe that, within 
a little while, android is going to give the IPhone a really serious run for 
its money, as it were, because they do encourage innovation.   Even if I had 
an android phone, I would leave this experimentation for others to do.  And 
somebody wrote in another message that yes, jail breaking my phone would 
void my warranty.  Oh well.


Arnold Schmidt 


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Re: Jail Breaking, What Does This Mean?

2012-06-11 Thread Christopher Chaltain
It's true Android is more open than IOS by nature, but you still have to
root your Android phone, which is analogous to jail breaking your IOS
device, to get root privileges.

Also, although the openness of Android allows for more innovation and
creativity, it also permits more fragmentation. I think individual
carriers and even the Android ecosystem as a while will begin to address
this though.

On 11/06/12 15:58, Arnold Schmidt wrote:
 I would like to say thanks, Joseph, for writing your explanation of jail
 breaking, even though I really didn't understand much of it.  The fault
 is mine, not yours.  What I did gather is that when I get an IPhone, I
 will leave the doing of such things to others, and just take what Apple
 allows me to install.  This is one area where I think the android phones
 are way ahead of the IPhones, in that it is open source, and encourages
 innovation.  Even though I am leaning toward an IPhone at this time, I
 do believe that, within a little while, android is going to give the
 IPhone a really serious run for its money, as it were, because they do
 encourage innovation.   Even if I had an android phone, I would leave
 this experimentation for others to do.  And somebody wrote in another
 message that yes, jail breaking my phone would void my warranty.  Oh well.
 
 Arnold Schmidt


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Advantage or disadvantage when jail-breaking an Iphone?

2012-06-01 Thread Fred Olver
   What happens when you attempt to return the phone or get a new one and 
move the data from one to another? Will vendors take them back if they are 
jail-breaked?


Thanks.

Fred Olver
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: itunes alternatikve


Hi, not exactly. When you jailbreak your phone, you are not limited to the 
sandbox experience. Apps can interact a lot more with each other and you 
can do some neat things which Apple hasn't allowed. One of the simplest 
things you can do is theme your phone. So, if you want a Star Trek theme 
for your phone with badges, icons, and sounds which are all Trek-based, 
you can do that, but only if you jailbreak.


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On 5/31/2012 6:15 PM, Mike Cassidy wrote:

Hi Roul,

Jailbreak is a term I have not come across before; At first it suggested
unlocking the phone, but from this post of yours I now think it might be
enabling iPhone to be accessed from sources other than iTunes.

Thanks for your help,

Regards,

Mike

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Behalf

Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: 31 May 2012 11:14
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: itunes alternatikve

Hi, if you jailbreak your iPhone, it cannot be serviced. Also, if you
jailbreak your iPhone, and call for tech support and mention that it's
jailbroken, they probably won't help you. However if you jailbreak your
iPhone and ever have to have it serviced, a restore of the software will
remove the jailbreak. All that being said, there are 2 apps which come
to mind which might fit the bill for you.

1. Filer. This app doesn't require a jailbreak. It allows you to upload
files, such as music, documents, or whatever to the iPhone. Then from
the app, you can manage or do whatever with these files, i.e. open them
in other applications, ETC. If you just tap the music files you upload,
you can listen to the music that way. However this isn't the same
experience as using the built-in Music app of the iPhone. Basically,
everything you upload to Filer will stay in Filer, but no jailbreak is
necessary.

2. PWN Tunes. This is a jailbreak only app. Basically when you connect
your iPhone to the pc, you can go to sever folders inside it, just like
a usb stick. One of these folders is called my music and if you copy
music there, you can later listen to it from the iPhone Music player.
When you want to remove it, just connect it to the pc again and remove
it from that same folder and it will be gone from the music player.

Good luck.

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On 5/31/2012 3:14 AM, Shane Christenson wrote:

Hey folks. I'd like to be able to transfer info and other stuff between
my IPhone 4 s and my pc. without using itunes. i'd like to avoid
jail-breaking my phone, because i don't know what I might do if I did. i
still need to be able to perform updates and so forth, and I have the
apple care protection plan for the phone. if jail breaking the phone
won't void any of this, I'd be willing to try it, but if it's best not
to jail-break, I'd like some way of transferring stuff between phone and
pc without itunes. Anyone's thoughts on this are most welcome.

Shane





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