RE: Problem with messages in WhatsApp

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Two things to try:
1. When you get out of WhatsApp, don't just reopen it, but make sure you first 
close the app out of the app switcher as well, then reopen it.
2. Make sure you don't have Screebn Recognition for WhatsApp enabled as this 
may give you strange results. Typically screen recognition is in the rotor, so 
turn the rotor until you get to it and make sure it says "off".


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Rena
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2024 11:18 AM
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Subject: RE: Problem with messages in WhatsApp

Yes, it does. I even turned of the phone and restarted.



From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joseph 
hudson
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Subject: Re: Problem with messages in WhatsApp

Hi Rena, if you close it, and then go back into it, does it still bring up the 
same message?

On May 13, 2024, at 10:13 AM, Rena 
mailto:onyxfran...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello,

I’m using my new SE22. The problem is that when I opened WhatsApp to listen to 
my audio messages, I got stock in something that says
Messages are generated by meta
And I can’t get out. I don’t see any cancel or back button.
Any suggestion?

Rena

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Re: Problem with messages in WhatsApp

[Joseph hudson]

Rena, go to the home screen of your iPhone. Find the WhatsApp app, click down 
on the app and double tap, then it'll put you in editing mode. Double tap, and 
hold, it shall come up with a thing that says remove app from home screen. Or 
bring you into some options where you can remove it from the home screen. Find 
the one that says delete app, and delete the app. Then go to the App Store, and 
reinstall it. Then type in your phone number and confirm with the security code 
that it sends you if it sends you one. Then you'll be good to go. If that 
doesn't work, I have no clue.

> On May 13, 2024, at 1:29 PM, Rena  wrote:
> 
> How do I do that? Where should I go?
>  
> Rena
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joseph 
> hudson
> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2024 2:20 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Problem with messages in WhatsApp
>  
> Maybe I delete and reinstall of WhatsApp is in order.
> 
> 
>> On May 13, 2024, at 1:18 PM, Rena > <mailto:onyxfran...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Yes, it does. I even turned of the phone and restarted.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Joseph hudson
>> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2024 2:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: Problem with messages in WhatsApp
>>  
>> Hi Rena, if you close it, and then go back into it, does it still bring up 
>> the same message?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 13, 2024, at 10:13 AM, Rena >> <mailto:onyxfran...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hello,
>>>  
>>> I’m using my new SE22. The problem is that when I opened WhatsApp to listen 
>>> to my audio messages, I got stock in something that says
>>> Messages are generated by meta
>>> And I can’t get out. I don’t see any cancel or back button.
>>> Any suggestion?
>>>  
>>> Rena   
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RE: Problem with messages in WhatsApp

[Rena]

How do I do that? Where should I go?

 

Rena

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joseph 
hudson
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2024 2:20 PM
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Maybe I delete and reinstall of WhatsApp is in order.





On May 13, 2024, at 1:18 PM, Rena mailto:onyxfran...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Yes, it does. I even turned of the phone and restarted.

 

 

 

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Subject: Re: Problem with messages in WhatsApp

 

Hi Rena, if you close it, and then go back into it, does it still bring up the 
same message?






On May 13, 2024, at 10:13 AM, Rena mailto:onyxfran...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello,

 

I’m using my new SE22. The problem is that when I opened WhatsApp to listen to 
my audio messages, I got stock in something that says

Messages are generated by meta

And I can’t get out. I don’t see any cancel or back button.

Any suggestion?

 

Rena   

 

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Re: Problem with messages in WhatsApp

[Joseph hudson]

Maybe I delete and reinstall of WhatsApp is in order.

> On May 13, 2024, at 1:18 PM, Rena  wrote:
> 
> Yes, it does. I even turned of the phone and restarted.
>  
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joseph 
> hudson
> Sent: Monday, May 13, 2024 2:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Problem with messages in WhatsApp
>  
> Hi Rena, if you close it, and then go back into it, does it still bring up 
> the same message?
> 
> 
>> On May 13, 2024, at 10:13 AM, Rena > <mailto:onyxfran...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>  
>> Hello,
>>  
>> I’m using my new SE22. The problem is that when I opened WhatsApp to listen 
>> to my audio messages, I got stock in something that says
>> Messages are generated by meta
>> And I can’t get out. I don’t see any cancel or back button.
>> Any suggestion?
>>  
>> Rena   
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RE: Problem with messages in WhatsApp

[Rena]

Yes, it does. I even turned of the phone and restarted.

 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joseph 
hudson
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2024 2:11 PM
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Hi Rena, if you close it, and then go back into it, does it still bring up the 
same message?





On May 13, 2024, at 10:13 AM, Rena mailto:onyxfran...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello,

 

I’m using my new SE22. The problem is that when I opened WhatsApp to listen to 
my audio messages, I got stock in something that says

Messages are generated by meta

And I can’t get out. I don’t see any cancel or back button.

Any suggestion?

 

Rena   

 

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Re: Problem with messages in WhatsApp

[Joseph hudson]

Hi Rena, if you close it, and then go back into it, does it still bring up the 
same message?

> On May 13, 2024, at 10:13 AM, Rena  wrote:
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> Hello,
>  
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> to my audio messages, I got stock in something that says
> Messages are generated by meta
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> Any suggestion?
>  
> Rena   
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Problem with messages in WhatsApp

[Rena]

Hello,

 

I'm using my new SE22. The problem is that when I opened WhatsApp to listen
to my audio messages, I got stock in something that says

Messages are generated by meta

And I can't get out. I don't see any cancel or back button.

Any suggestion?

 

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Re: Saving Voice Mail Messages Question Please.

[Richard Turner]

I just did a little experiment. I shared a voice mail to Voice Dream Reader. I 
went back to the voice mail, had VO say the number, date, and length of the 
voice mail and did the quadruple 3 finger tap to copy that to the clipboard 
then went back to Voice Dream and selected rename file and replaced the name 
with the phone number etc, then added the name of the caller and double tapped 
on OK. So now I have the entire voice mail, the date and and who it was. 

Very slick. 

 

 

Richard, USA

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on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

 









On Mar 24, 2024, at 7:27 PM, janet gross  wrote:

 

Hi Richard, 

 

I think I like the idea of just sending the whole message to the notes or Voice 
Memos now.  

Some  times we need to save an important Voice Mail Message, so in my case, I 
do need to keep the entire original Voice Mail Message.  

I just don’t want to take the chance of losing certain messages.  

I updated to the newest update in Feb of 2023, and low in behold, I lost 
important messages from within the recent calls app.  

In which I needed those recent calls for verification purposes, but they were 
lost.  

 

Janet 

 

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Turner
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2024 4:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Saving Voice Mail Messages Question Please.

 

Janet, only way I can think of to∂ that, is to have VO read the transcript, and 
assuming it reads it all in one go, do the 3 finger quadruple tap to copy the 
text to the clipboard and open a new note, and paste the text into that note... 
 Or you could paste x~to an email of course. 

HTH, 

Richard, USA

“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

 

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/

 











On Mar 24, 2024, at 2:30 PM, janet gross mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Everyone, 

 

Now that I have my voice mail messages back, I Want  to save them to my notes 
folder.  

I don’t want to lose those messages again.  

Can someone please tell me how to save the messages to my notes folder, so I 
can retrieve them to read in the future, or if I want to send them to an email 
address? 

I’m running an iPhone XR.  

Thank you all in advance.  

 

Janet  

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RE: Saving Voice Mail Messages Question Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Richard,

I think I like the idea of just sending the whole message to the notes or Voice 
Memos now.
Some  times we need to save an important Voice Mail Message, so in my case, I 
do need to keep the entire original Voice Mail Message.
I just don’t want to take the chance of losing certain messages.
I updated to the newest update in Feb of 2023, and low in behold, I lost 
important messages from within the recent calls app.
In which I needed those recent calls for verification purposes, but they were 
lost.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2024 4:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Saving Voice Mail Messages Question Please.

Janet, only way I can think of to∂ that, is to have VO read the transcript, and 
assuming it reads it all in one go, do the 3 finger quadruple tap to copy the 
text to the clipboard and open a new note, and paste the text into that note... 
 Or you could paste x~to an email of course.
HTH,
Richard, USA
“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it 
on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”
-- Cedrick Bridgeforth

My web site: https://www.turner42.com/





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Now that I have my voice mail messages back, I Want  to save them to my notes 
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I don’t want to lose those messages again.
Can someone please tell me how to save the messages to my notes folder, so I 
can retrieve them to read in the future, or if I want to send them to an email 
address?
I’m running an iPhone XR.
Thank you all in advance.

Janet
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RE: Saving Voice Mail Messages Question Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Ron,

You save the audio, but not the original Voice Mail Message, meaning with the 
phone number where it came from, the date ETC?
Do you know if you wanted to forward that same message to another email 
address, could you?

Janet

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Hi Janet,

You may not be asking for the audio, but I regularly save audio versions of my 
voice mails that are left on my Spectrum Phone account.
I am able to look under voice mail under the iPhone app and see a copy of the 
message. If I swipe up once, I get a menu one item of which is share. If I 
share, one of the options is to send it to voice memos. When I do this, I can 
see the voice memo in audio format listed in the voice memo app with a 
hexadecimal type title (series of numbers and letters.)  I can then edit the 
name by double tapping on the name field and deleting the default and replacing 
it with something recognizable.

On 3/24/2024 6:28 PM, Jody ianuzzi wrote:
Tap on the voicemail to open it. From there tap on the name and swipe down 
until you hear share. Then from the share sheet you can save it to Notes or I 
save it to Voice Memos.
JODY

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Now that I have my voice mail messages back, I Want  to save them to my notes 
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I don’t want to lose those messages again.
Can someone please tell me how to save the messages to my notes folder, so I 
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address?
I’m running an iPhone XR.
Thank you all in advance.

Janet
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RE: Saving Voice Mail Messages Question Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Jody,
When you say tap the name which name are you talking about?
So, you save the voice mail messages to the Voice Memos, I’m assuming if the 
message is saved to the Voice Memos, one could listen to the message, and if 
need be, one can forward that same  voice Mail Message to another email address?
Thank you so much.

Janet
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Tap on the voicemail to open it. From there tap on the name and swipe down 
until you hear share. Then from the share sheet you can save it to Notes or I 
save it to Voice Memos.
JODY


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On Mar 24, 2024, at 5:30 PM, janet gross 
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Hi Everyone,

Now that I have my voice mail messages back, I Want  to save them to my notes 
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I don’t want to lose those messages again.
Can someone please tell me how to save the messages to my notes folder, so I 
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I’m running an iPhone XR.
Thank you all in advance.

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Re: Saving Voice Mail Messages Question Please.

[Ron Canazzi]

Hi Janet,

You may not be asking for the audio, but I regularly save audio versions 
of my voice mails that are left on my Spectrum Phone account.
I am able to look under voice mail under the iPhone app and see a copy 
of the message. If I swipe up once, I get a menu one item of which is 
share. If I share, one of the options is to send it to voice memos. When 
I do this, I can see the voice memo in audio format listed in the voice 
memo app with a hexadecimal type title (series of numbers and letters.)  
I can then edit the name by double tapping on the name field and 
deleting the default and replacing it with something recognizable.



On 3/24/2024 6:28 PM, Jody ianuzzi wrote:
Tap on the voicemail to open it. From there tap on the name and swipe 
down until you hear share. Then from the share sheet you can save it 
to Notes or I save it to Voice Memos.

JODY

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On Mar 24, 2024, at 5:30 PM, janet gross  
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Hi Everyone,

Now that I have my voice mail messages back, I Want  to save them to 
my notes folder.


I don’t want to lose those messages again.

Can someone please tell me how to save the messages to my notes 
folder, so I can retrieve them to read in the future, or if I want to 
send them to an email address?


I’m running an iPhone XR.

Thank you all in advance.

Janet

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Re: Saving Voice Mail Messages Question Please.

[Richard Turner]

That is very helpful. I did not realize you could save the recordings. Good to know. 'Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Mar 24, 2024, at 3:28 PM, Jody ianuzzi  wrote:Tap on the voicemail to open it. From there tap on the name and swipe down until you hear share. Then from the share sheet you can save it to Notes or I save it to Voice Memos.JODYTo Boldly Go   thunderwalker...@gmail.com "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS  Erik WeihenmayerOn Mar 24, 2024, at 5:30 PM, janet gross  wrote:







Hi Everyone, 
 
Now that I have my voice mail messages back, I Want  to save them to my notes folder. 

I don’t want to lose those messages again.  
Can someone please tell me how to save the messages to my notes folder, so I can retrieve them to read in the future, or if I want to send them to an email address?

I’m running an iPhone XR.  
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RE: Updating to iOS 17.4.1, and Voice Mail Messages.

[janet gross]

Hi Carolyn,
Thank you.
What a mess that was, but now, all is well.

Janet

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Arnold
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That is great news, Janet. Glad you found the right fix.

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Subject: Updating to iOS 17.4.1, and Voice Mail Messages.

Hi Everyone,



I finally updated to iOS 17.4.1 from the advice of Apple.

Sure enough, it worked.

As soon as I updated, I restarted my phone, and there were some of my voice 
mail messages I was saving.

I then went in to the deleted folder, and undeleted the messages I wanted to 
put back in my Voice Mail Messages folder.

At least when I talked to an Apple rep this last time, she told me the iOS 
17.4.1 was to fix the issue I was having, and Apple was aware of this issue, as 
it happened to others.

So, I wasn't the only one who was having this problem.



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RE: Updating to iOS 17.4.1, and Voice Mail Messages.

[Carolyn Arnold]

That is great news, Janet. Glad you found the right fix. 

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Hi Everyone, 

 

I finally updated to iOS 17.4.1 from the advice of Apple.  

Sure enough, it worked.  

As soon as I updated, I restarted my phone, and there were some of my voice 
mail messages I was saving.  

I then went in to the deleted folder, and undeleted the messages I wanted to 
put back in my Voice Mail Messages folder.   

At least when I talked to an Apple rep this last time, she told me the iOS 
17.4.1 was to fix the issue I was having, and Apple was aware of this issue, as 
it happened to others.   

So, I wasn’t the only one who was having this problem.  

 

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Re: Saving Voice Mail Messages Question Please.

[Jody ianuzzi]

Tap on the voicemail to open it. From there tap on the name and swipe down until you hear share. Then from the share sheet you can save it to Notes or I save it to Voice Memos.JODYTo Boldly Go   thunderwalker...@gmail.com "What's within you is stronger than what's in your way."  NO BARRIERS  Erik WeihenmayerOn Mar 24, 2024, at 5:30 PM, janet gross  wrote:







Hi Everyone, 
 
Now that I have my voice mail messages back, I Want  to save them to my notes folder. 

I don’t want to lose those messages again.  
Can someone please tell me how to save the messages to my notes folder, so I can retrieve them to read in the future, or if I want to send them to an email address?

I’m running an iPhone XR.  
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Re: Saving Voice Mail Messages Question Please.

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Janet, only way I can think of to∂ that, is to have VO read the transcript, and assuming it reads it all in one go, do the 3 finger quadruple tap to copy the text to the clipboard and open a new note, and paste the text into that note...  Or you could paste x~to an email of course. HTH, Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Mar 24, 2024, at 2:30 PM, janet gross  wrote:







Hi Everyone, 
 
Now that I have my voice mail messages back, I Want  to save them to my notes folder. 

I don’t want to lose those messages again.  
Can someone please tell me how to save the messages to my notes folder, so I can retrieve them to read in the future, or if I want to send them to an email address?

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Saving Voice Mail Messages Question Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Everyone,

Now that I have my voice mail messages back, I Want  to save them to my notes 
folder.
I don't want to lose those messages again.
Can someone please tell me how to save the messages to my notes folder, so I 
can retrieve them to read in the future, or if I want to send them to an email 
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I'm running an iPhone XR.
Thank you all in advance.

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Re: Updating to iOS 17.4.1, and Voice Mail Messages.

[Richard Turner]

Janet, that i great news. Too bad when they fix things like that, they are not more specific in the update info. Richard, USA“Grandma always told us, “Be careful when you pray for patience. God stores it on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”-- Cedrick Bridgeforth My web site: https://www.turner42.com/ On Mar 24, 2024, at 2:24 PM, janet gross  wrote:







Hi Everyone, 
 
I finally updated to iOS 17.4.1 from the advice of Apple.  

Sure enough, it worked.  
As soon as I updated, I restarted my phone, and there were some of my voice mail messages I was saving. 

I then went in to the deleted folder, and undeleted the messages I wanted to put back in my Voice Mail Messages folder.   
At least when I talked to an Apple rep this last time, she told me the iOS 17.4.1 was to fix the issue I was having, and Apple was aware of this issue, as it happened to others.   
So, I wasn’t the only one who was having this problem.  

 
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Updating to iOS 17.4.1, and Voice Mail Messages.

[janet gross]

Hi Everyone,

I finally updated to iOS 17.4.1 from the advice of Apple.
Sure enough, it worked.
As soon as I updated, I restarted my phone, and there were some of my voice 
mail messages I was saving.
I then went in to the deleted folder, and undeleted the messages I wanted to 
put back in my Voice Mail Messages folder.
At least when I talked to an Apple rep this last time, she told me the iOS 
17.4.1 was to fix the issue I was having, and Apple was aware of this issue, as 
it happened to others.
So, I wasn't the only one who was having this problem.

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RE: iOS 17.4 and Voice Messages Help Please.

[janet gross]

Hello Michael,

I feel the same way you do about updating, but some times these updates start 
to get a little darn pesty, so I updated just to get rid of the pest!  !
But now, I have a bigger problem, as some of those voice mail messages I 
definitely  need.
If T-Mobile can’t correct this, I can try calling Apple.
If I can’t get some of those voice mail messages back, I could be up the creek 
without a paddle!
This isn’t a good thing, but I do want to know what is causing this, because 
the last time I updated, I lost all my recent calls in which I was saving  some 
of them as well.
As they say, I shell see, just what is the problem.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Michael 
Irons
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Subject: Re: iOS 17.4 and Voice Messages Help Please.

Hello everybody the reason I am not willing to update is because this very 
thing that was just talked about and problems with losing voicemail messages. I 
have saved voicemail messages that I need and I’m not willing to lose them 
because of an update.
Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 22, 2024, at 2:02 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I finally took the plunge and updated my XR phone to iOS 17.4, as the update 
was getting just a littleto pesty to deal with.
Now, since I did this just yesterday, all my voice mail messages are gone!
When I open the voice mail messages, I only get an option of deleted voice mail 
messages, and I went in to that, but there are no deleted voice mail messages.
I was saving some of those messages, as I need them.
Any suggestions   how to get those messages back?
This happened to me before, and I had to reset my entire phone in order to get 
those messages back the last time I updated.

Thank you in advance for any help.

Janet
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RE: iOS 17.4 and Voice Messages Help Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Richard,

I think I might need to call T-Mobile.
I just called myself from another phone, and I heard my phone ring, and I heard 
the alert message letting me know I had a message.
I checked my voice mail, but it didn't show any voice mail message.
When I just now called myself from my other phone, I heard my greeting on my 
iPhone saying this person you are calling, doesn't  have a voice mail box set 
up.
This is unreal!
So ok now, here I come T-Mobile!

Thank you.


Janet


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I suggest calling Apple accessibility and/or your carrier.


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mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
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Subject: iOS 17.4 and Voice Messages Help Please.

Hello Everyone,

I finally took the plunge and updated my XR phone to iOS 17.4, as the update 
was getting just a littleto pesty to deal with.
Now, since I did this just yesterday, all my voice mail messages are gone!
When I open the voice mail messages, I only get an option of deleted voice mail 
messages, and I went in to that, but there are no deleted voice mail messages.
I was saving some of those messages, as I need them.
Any suggestions   how to get those messages back?
This happened to me before, and I had to reset my entire phone in order to get 
those messages back the last time I updated.

Thank you in advance for any help.

Janet
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RE: iOS 17.4 and Voice Messages Help Please.

[Richard Turner]

I suggest calling Apple accessibility and/or your carrier.

 

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
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Subject: iOS 17.4 and Voice Messages Help Please.

 

Hello Everyone, 

 

I finally took the plunge and updated my XR phone to iOS 17.4, as the update 
was getting just a littleto pesty to deal with.  

Now, since I did this just yesterday, all my voice mail messages are gone!  

When I open the voice mail messages, I only get an option of deleted voice mail 
messages, and I went in to that, but there are no deleted voice mail messages.  

I was saving some of those messages, as I need them.  

Any suggestions   how to get those messages back?  

This happened to me before, and I had to reset my entire phone in order to get 
those messages back the last time I updated.  

 

Thank you in advance for any help.  

 

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Re: iOS 17.4 and Voice Messages Help Please.

[Michael Irons]

Hello everybody the reason I am not willing to update is because this very thing that was just talked about and problems with losing voicemail messages. I have saved voicemail messages that I need and I’m not willing to lose them because of an update.Sent from my iPhoneOn Mar 22, 2024, at 2:02 PM, janet gross  wrote:







Hello Everyone, 
 
I finally took the plunge and updated my XR phone to iOS 17.4, as the update was getting just a little    to pesty to deal with.  
Now, since I did this just yesterday, all my voice mail messages are gone! 

When I open the voice mail messages, I only get an option of deleted voice mail messages, and I went in to that, but there are no deleted voice mail messages. 

I was saving some of those messages, as I need them.  
Any suggestions   how to get those messages back?  
This happened to me before, and I had to reset my entire phone in order to get those messages back the last time I updated. 

 
Thank you in advance for any help.  
 
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iOS 17.4 and Voice Messages Help Please.

[janet gross]

Hello Everyone,

I finally took the plunge and updated my XR phone to iOS 17.4, as the update 
was getting just a littleto pesty to deal with.
Now, since I did this just yesterday, all my voice mail messages are gone!
When I open the voice mail messages, I only get an option of deleted voice mail 
messages, and I went in to that, but there are no deleted voice mail messages.
I was saving some of those messages, as I need them.
Any suggestions   how to get those messages back?
This happened to me before, and I had to reset my entire phone in order to get 
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Thank you in advance for any help.

Janet

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Re: sending text messages using braille screen input

[Arnold Schmidt]

I had never heard of this gesture, I am glad it is there for those who want it. I won't use it, though, being that I want to read what I am about to send,   to make sure it doesn't have any errors, and   is what I really want to send. Arnold Schmidt Sent from  Arnold's  iPhone S E 3On Mar 16, 2024, at 10:59 AM, Jennie Facer  wrote:I just did that the other day, so no, I’m not experiencing this behavior.Jenn
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On Mar 16, 2024, at 7:39 AM, Cory Jackson  wrote:Hi all,I have noticed over the last few versions of Ios that it is no longer possible to perform a 3 finger swipe up to send a text while in braille screen input mode.Is anyone else experiencing this behavior?Regards:Cory JacksonSent from my iPhone-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list.If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor.  Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu.  Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.comThe archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/15E5F491-2661-4E47-8C94-9710ADC898E9%40gmail.com.



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RE: sending text messages using braille screen input

[Richard Turner]

OK, that does work once I realized that since I am writing in screen away mode, 
three finger swipe up is toward my head and the three finger swipe indeed sends 
a text message.

The Apple list of gestures says the three finger swipe up also enters a 
carriage return when not in a text message, which it does, but it also says to 
move to a new line, a two finger swipe right works, which it does as well.

VoiceOver says “new line” for both commands.

Perhaps the two finger swipe right is a soft return while the three finger 
swipe up is a hard return?

In any case, I appreciate knowing I can send a text more easily.

 

 

 

 

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Yest it is. Type braille directly on the iPhone screen with VoiceOver - Apple 
Support 
<https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/type-braille-on-the-screen-iph10366cc30/ios#:~:text=Enter%20braille%20on%20the%20screen%201%20Set%20the,%E2%80%9Cz%E2%80%9D%29%2C%20or%20adjust%20the%20rotor%20to%20another%20setting.>
 

 

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I'd never heard of that gesture for sending text messages. I always get out of 
braille screen input and double tap the send button. 

Is that a default gesture?

 

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On Mar 16, 2024, at 6:40 AM, Cory Jackson mailto:coryl.jack...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi all,
I have noticed over the last few versions of Ios that it is no longer possible 
to perform a 3 finger swipe up to send a text while in braille screen input 
mode.
Is anyone else experiencing this behavior?
Regards:
Cory Jackson

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RE: sending text messages using braille screen input

[Richard Turner]

Thanks.

It didn’t work for me, but I will try again and make note of this list of 
gestures.

 

Thanks,

 

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Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2024 7:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: sending text messages using braille screen input

 

Yest it is. Type braille directly on the iPhone screen with VoiceOver - Apple 
Support 
<https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/type-braille-on-the-screen-iph10366cc30/ios#:~:text=Enter%20braille%20on%20the%20screen%201%20Set%20the,%E2%80%9Cz%E2%80%9D%29%2C%20or%20adjust%20the%20rotor%20to%20another%20setting.>
 

 

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I'd never heard of that gesture for sending text messages. I always get out of 
braille screen input and double tap the send button. 

Is that a default gesture?

 

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on the other side of Hell and you will have to go through Hell to get it.”

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I have noticed over the last few versions of Ios that it is no longer possible 
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Is anyone else experiencing this behavior?
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Cory Jackson

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Re: sending text messages using braille screen input

[Jennie Facer]

I just did that the other day, so no, I’m not experiencing this behavior.

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi   

> On Mar 16, 2024, at 7:39 AM, Cory Jackson  wrote:
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> I have noticed over the last few versions of Ios that it is no longer 
> possible to perform a 3 finger swipe up to send a text while in braille 
> screen input mode.
> Is anyone else experiencing this behavior?
> Regards:
> Cory Jackson
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RE: sending text messages using braille screen input

[Christopher Chaltain]

Yest it is. Type braille directly on the iPhone screen with VoiceOver - Apple 
Support<https://support.apple.com/guide/iphone/type-braille-on-the-screen-iph10366cc30/ios#:~:text=Enter%20braille%20on%20the%20screen%201%20Set%20the,%E2%80%9Cz%E2%80%9D%29%2C%20or%20adjust%20the%20rotor%20to%20another%20setting.>

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Subject: Re: sending text messages using braille screen input

I'd never heard of that gesture for sending text messages. I always get out of 
braille screen input and double tap the send button.
Is that a default gesture?

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On Mar 16, 2024, at 6:40 AM, Cory Jackson 
mailto:coryl.jack...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi all,
I have noticed over the last few versions of Ios that it is no longer possible 
to perform a 3 finger swipe up to send a text while in braille screen input 
mode.
Is anyone else experiencing this behavior?
Regards:
Cory Jackson

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Re: sending text messages using braille screen input

[Lyne]

Hello,
No issue here with Message but with WhatsApp yes.

Lyne

> Le 16 mars 2024 à 09:40, Cory Jackson  a écrit :
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> I have noticed over the last few versions of Ios that it is no longer 
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Re: sending text messages using braille screen input

[Richard Turner]

I'd never heard of that gesture for sending text messages. I always get out of 
braille screen input and double tap the send button. 
Is that a default gesture?

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> On Mar 16, 2024, at 6:40 AM, Cory Jackson  wrote:
> Hi all,
> I have noticed over the last few versions of Ios that it is no longer 
> possible to perform a 3 finger swipe up to send a text while in braille 
> screen input mode.
> Is anyone else experiencing this behavior?
> Regards:
> Cory Jackson
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sending text messages using braille screen input

[Cory Jackson]

Hi all,
I have noticed over the last few versions of Ios that it is no longer possible 
to perform a 3 finger swipe up to send a text while in braille screen input 
mode.
Is anyone else experiencing this behavior?
Regards:
Cory Jackson

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RE: Question about messages

[Richard Turner]

Yes, you can find your deleted messages.

1.  Find the edit button in the upper left corner and double tap on it.

2.  Flick right to the button labeled: Show recently deleted and double tap.

3.  Now, flick right with one finger through the messages and if you find one 
you wish to recover, flick up or down on it until you hear Recover and double 
tap.

This screen will also tell you how many days before it will be permanently 
deleted.

I believe it is 30 days from the date deleted.

HTH,

 

 

 

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Microsoft Windows 11 Core Version 23H2 (OS Build 22631.2715), 

JAWS version 2024.2310.70.400

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2024 10:13 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Hello,

 

Is it possible to recuperate some messages that I deleted from the messages app?

Phone SE20 version 17.

 

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Question about messages

[Rena]

Hello,

 

Is it possible to recuperate some messages that I deleted from the messages
app?

Phone SE20 version 17.

 

Rena

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I Messages

[Noe Villeda]

Hello list,
 
When I send a message, and someone reacts to it.  Voiceover reads, 1 new
message.  When I open the messages app, after sending the message, voiceover
reads no messages.
 
The only work around is to restart my phone, go back in to the messages app,
and then I see the message and that someone reacted to it.
 
Is this a bug with the latest version of I O S?
 
 



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not receiving text messages

[Albert Brown]

Hello,
Lately I notice I am not receiving text messages on my iPhone 15 pro.
As far as I know I didn't change any settings.
I can send messages .


ALBERT

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Re: delete multiple sms messages

[Lyne]

Hello,
Do you want to delete message or conversation?

Lyne

> Le 5 janv. 2024 à 11:53, Fanus Buys  a écrit :
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> Hello list
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> I open the messages app then double tap on "edit" then double tap on "select 
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Re: delete multiple sms messages

[joseph hudson]

Once you open the Messages app, double tap on edit, and then double tap on each 
message that you want to delete. And then, at the very bottom, there is a 
delete all button.

> On Jan 5, 2024, at 10:31 AM, Fanus Buys  wrote:
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> I open the messages app then double tap on "edit" then double tap on "select 
> messages" but then I can not figure out how to select the messages I want to 
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delete multiple sms messages

[Fanus Buys]

Hello list

I open the messages app then double tap on "edit" then double tap on 
"select messages" but then I can not figure out how to select the 
messages I want to delete. Please help?


Regards

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RE: Forwarding Text Messages?

[Christopher Chaltain]

I think that just forwards a text message to someone as a text message. There's 
a copy option if you want to paste the text into something, such as an email 
message, and forward it that way.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
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Subject: RE: Forwarding Text Messages?

Yes.  Flick up on the message with one finger to More and double tap.
Then, flick right until you get to delete then forward.
Double tap on forward.
I don't know if that forwards the entire conversation if there is more than one 
message...

HTH,




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Is there a way to forward a text message?

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RE: Forwarding Text Messages?

[Richard Turner]

Yes.  Flick up on the message with one finger to More and double tap.
Then, flick right until you get to delete then forward.
Double tap on forward.
I don't know if that forwards the entire conversation if there is more than one 
message...

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Is there a way to forward a text message?

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Forwarding Text Messages?

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Is there a way to forward a text message?

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Re: Seeing own messages from Google

[David Grossoehme]

As I see you have a Gmail account, you can go to all mail and see your 
messages in that folder.


Dave


On 12/26/2023 6:37 PM, M. Taylor wrote:

Hello Max,

I do not know why the native Mac OS email client does not show one's own posts 
to Google Groups; I only know that, it is so. And, has been so for many, many 
years.

I can assure you that Apple has received many bug reports on this and, afar as 
I am aware, they have not taken steps to resolve the issue.

Now that I think about it, there was a time when the native iOS mail client 
behaved the same way but, for whatever reason, the issue was resolved, quite a 
while ago.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Max
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2023 12:21 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: Re: Seeing own messages from Google

Hi Mark,
how is the Apple software a problem.
I am reading the messages on a Mac and have no problems seeing messages I send 
to other groups other than Google.
I am not doubting you just am interested why this is so.
Thanks for all you do.
Max.


On 26 Dec 2023, at 16:52, M. Taylor  wrote:

Max,

You can Cc (carbon copy) yourself on messages sent to the group in order to 
insure that they were, at least, sent out to the gMail servers.

Please note that the fact that you can not automatically see messages posted to 
the Google group is a function of the Apple software and not some kind of 
limitation of Google.

Mark


-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, December 25, 2023 2:27 PM
To: iPhone List 
Subject: Seeing own messages from Google

Hi all,
I may have asked this question before if I did I am sorry but I have forgotten 
the answer.
How can I see my own messages I send to Google groups?
Thanks for any help.
Max.

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Re: Seeing own messages from Google

[Max]

Hi,
thanks it is a Gmail address. I don’t CC myself as it make break peoples 
filters for there different lists male.
Thanks again all.
Max.

> On 27 Dec 2023, at 10:59, Christopher Chaltain  wrote:
> 
> I see that Max's email address is gmail.com. If someone posts to a Google 
> Groups mailing list from a Gmail address then they won't get a copy of their 
> message. It's just the way Google Groups works. This is independent of the 
> mail client being used. I assume it's because Google Groups assumes you know 
> you sent your message, and it's just trying to keep messages out of your 
> inbox.
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> 
> -Original Message-
> From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2023 5:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Seeing own messages from Google
> 
> Hello Max,
> 
> I do not know why the native Mac OS email client does not show one's own 
> posts to Google Groups; I only know that, it is so. And, has been so for 
> many, many years.
> 
> I can assure you that Apple has received many bug reports on this and, afar 
> as I am aware, they have not taken steps to resolve the issue.
> 
> Now that I think about it, there was a time when the native iOS mail client 
> behaved the same way but, for whatever reason, the issue was resolved, quite 
> a while ago.
> 
> Mark
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Max
> Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2023 12:21 PM
> To: viphone 
> Subject: Re: Seeing own messages from Google
> 
> Hi Mark,
> how is the Apple software a problem.
> I am reading the messages on a Mac and have no problems seeing messages I 
> send to other groups other than Google.
> I am not doubting you just am interested why this is so.
> Thanks for all you do.
> Max.
> 
>> On 26 Dec 2023, at 16:52, M. Taylor  wrote:
>> 
>> Max,
>> 
>> You can Cc (carbon copy) yourself on messages sent to the group in order to 
>> insure that they were, at least, sent out to the gMail servers.
>> 
>> Please note that the fact that you can not automatically see messages posted 
>> to the Google group is a function of the Apple software and not some kind of 
>> limitation of Google.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Max
>> Sent: Monday, December 25, 2023 2:27 PM
>> To: iPhone List 
>> Subject: Seeing own messages from Google
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I may have asked this question before if I did I am sorry but I have 
>> forgotten the answer.
>> How can I see my own messages I send to Google groups?
>> Thanks for any help.
>> Max.
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RE: Seeing own messages from Google

[Christopher Chaltain]

I see that Max's email address is gmail.com. If someone posts to a Google 
Groups mailing list from a Gmail address then they won't get a copy of their 
message. It's just the way Google Groups works. This is independent of the mail 
client being used. I assume it's because Google Groups assumes you know you 
sent your message, and it's just trying to keep messages out of your inbox.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2023 5:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing own messages from Google

Hello Max,

I do not know why the native Mac OS email client does not show one's own posts 
to Google Groups; I only know that, it is so. And, has been so for many, many 
years.

I can assure you that Apple has received many bug reports on this and, afar as 
I am aware, they have not taken steps to resolve the issue.

Now that I think about it, there was a time when the native iOS mail client 
behaved the same way but, for whatever reason, the issue was resolved, quite a 
while ago.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Max
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2023 12:21 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: Re: Seeing own messages from Google

Hi Mark,
how is the Apple software a problem.
I am reading the messages on a Mac and have no problems seeing messages I send 
to other groups other than Google.
I am not doubting you just am interested why this is so.
Thanks for all you do.
Max.

> On 26 Dec 2023, at 16:52, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Max,
> 
> You can Cc (carbon copy) yourself on messages sent to the group in order to 
> insure that they were, at least, sent out to the gMail servers.
> 
> Please note that the fact that you can not automatically see messages posted 
> to the Google group is a function of the Apple software and not some kind of 
> limitation of Google.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Max
> Sent: Monday, December 25, 2023 2:27 PM
> To: iPhone List 
> Subject: Seeing own messages from Google
> 
> Hi all,
> I may have asked this question before if I did I am sorry but I have 
> forgotten the answer.
> How can I see my own messages I send to Google groups?
> Thanks for any help.
> Max.
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RE: Seeing own messages from Google

[M. Taylor]

Hello Max,

I do not know why the native Mac OS email client does not show one's own posts 
to Google Groups; I only know that, it is so. And, has been so for many, many 
years.

I can assure you that Apple has received many bug reports on this and, afar as 
I am aware, they have not taken steps to resolve the issue.

Now that I think about it, there was a time when the native iOS mail client 
behaved the same way but, for whatever reason, the issue was resolved, quite a 
while ago.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Max
Sent: Tuesday, December 26, 2023 12:21 PM
To: viphone 
Subject: Re: Seeing own messages from Google

Hi Mark,
how is the Apple software a problem.
I am reading the messages on a Mac and have no problems seeing messages I send 
to other groups other than Google.
I am not doubting you just am interested why this is so.
Thanks for all you do.
Max.

> On 26 Dec 2023, at 16:52, M. Taylor  wrote:
> 
> Max,
> 
> You can Cc (carbon copy) yourself on messages sent to the group in order to 
> insure that they were, at least, sent out to the gMail servers.
> 
> Please note that the fact that you can not automatically see messages posted 
> to the Google group is a function of the Apple software and not some kind of 
> limitation of Google.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Max
> Sent: Monday, December 25, 2023 2:27 PM
> To: iPhone List 
> Subject: Seeing own messages from Google
> 
> Hi all,
> I may have asked this question before if I did I am sorry but I have 
> forgotten the answer.
> How can I see my own messages I send to Google groups?
> Thanks for any help.
> Max.
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Re: Seeing own messages from Google

[Max]

Hi Mark,
how is the Apple software a problem.
I am reading the messages on a Mac and have no problems seeing messages I send 
to other groups other than Google.
I am not doubting you just am interested why this is so.
Thanks for all you do.
Max.

> On 26 Dec 2023, at 16:52, M. Taylor  wrote:
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> Max,
> 
> You can Cc (carbon copy) yourself on messages sent to the group in order to 
> insure that they were, at least, sent out to the gMail servers.
> 
> Please note that the fact that you can not automatically see messages posted 
> to the Google group is a function of the Apple software and not some kind of 
> limitation of Google.
> 
> Mark
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> 
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: Seeing own messages from Google
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> I may have asked this question before if I did I am sorry but I have 
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> How can I see my own messages I send to Google groups?
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RE: Seeing own messages from Google

[M. Taylor]

Max,

You can Cc (carbon copy) yourself on messages sent to the group in order to 
insure that they were, at least, sent out to the gMail servers.

Please note that the fact that you can not automatically see messages posted to 
the Google group is a function of the Apple software and not some kind of 
limitation of Google.

Mark


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Sent: Monday, December 25, 2023 2:27 PM
To: iPhone List 
Subject: Seeing own messages from Google

Hi all,
I may have asked this question before if I did I am sorry but I have forgotten 
the answer.
How can I see my own messages I send to Google groups?
Thanks for any help.
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Re: Seeing own messages from Google

[Richard Turner]

As far as I know, you cannot. Your message about hearing aids came through. 

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> Thanks for any help.
> Max.
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Seeing own messages from Google

[Max]

Hi all,
I may have asked this question before if I did I am sorry but I have forgotten 
the answer.
How can I see my own messages I send to Google groups?
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RE: Why aren’t messages deleted if I deleted on one device?

[M. Taylor]

Ah! Mary, Mary, Mary!

As difficult as it is to believe, Apple continues to exclude messages, on Apple 
Watch, from the across-device deletion ecosystem.  It drives me mad, also.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Mary 
Otten
Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2023 6:06 PM
To: via VIPhone 
Subject: Why aren’t messages deleted if I deleted on one device?

I get text messages, and I have an Apple Watch and an iPhone. If I delete 
something on my iPhone, it will even say this will be deleted on all of your 
devices, but it isn’t. And I don’t think the watch actually says things will be 
deleted on all my devices, but why not? And this could also apply to 
notifications. If I have notifications on my screen and I delete them all from 
the lock screen, why do I have to continue to do that when I go into 
notifications? I don’t want to keep deleting and deleting and deleting the same 
darn thing on multiple devices in multiple places. What am I missing? I want 
them gone everywhere if I deleted once. Is that too much to ask or am I missing 
something?
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Why aren’t messages deleted if I deleted on one device?

[Mary Otten]

I get text messages, and I have an Apple Watch and an iPhone. If I delete 
something on my iPhone, it will even say this will be deleted on all of your 
devices, but it isn’t. And I don’t think the watch actually says things will be 
deleted on all my devices, but why not? And this could also apply to 
notifications. If I have notifications on my screen and I delete them all from 
the lock screen, why do I have to continue to do that when I go into 
notifications? I don’t want to keep deleting and deleting and deleting the same 
darn thing on multiple devices in multiple places. What am I missing? I want 
them gone everywhere if I deleted once. Is that too much to ask or am I missing 
something?
Mary

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RE: problems with audio messages

[Richard Turner]

I assume you are talking about Phone Voice Mails.  If so, you can go into 
Settings, Phone, and turn off Live Transcription.  That way, VoiceOver doesn't 
try and speak the transcription as it is being done, but it will be there once 
you open the Phone app, double tap on Voice Mail and double tap on the unread 
message.  It plays as always, but the transcription is there as well.

I don't know if that will help.
I have a 13 Pro...




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-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2023 4:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: problems with audio messages

Hi,

On which iPhone model did you install 17.1?

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Afik 
Souffir
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2023 8:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: problems with audio messages


Hi 

Since the latest update of ios 17, I have problems to play an audio messages in 
imessage. 
I can see the transcript, but when I'm trying to double tap, its not playing.

Any ideas?




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RE: problems with audio messages

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Hi,

On which iPhone model did you install 17.1?

Mark

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Afik 
Souffir
Sent: Sunday, October 29, 2023 8:05 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: problems with audio messages


Hi 

Since the latest update of ios 17, I have problems to play an audio messages in 
imessage. 
I can see the transcript, but when I'm trying to double tap, its not playing.

Any ideas?




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problems with audio messages

[Afik Souffir]

Hi

Since the latest update of ios 17, I have problems to play an audio messages in 
imessage.
I can see the transcript, but when I'm trying to double tap, its not playing.

Any ideas?




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RE: not being notified of all text messages

[M. Taylor]

Thank you for the info, Dennis.  

Please let us know when it has, in fact, been resolved;  I'm counting on you; 
(big smile).

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2023 2:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: not being notified of all text messages

It is annoying hoping it is fixed in 17.2 betas.  We'll see.  Nope not totally 
fixed in 17.1

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 11:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: not being notified of all text messages

It's a known bug that has yet to be fix by Appple. Some of us deal with it, but 
others are unaffected. It's supremely annoying. I usually have to restart my 
phone once a day. The restart helps, but only for a while. Sometimes, the rest 
of the day, sometimes, just hours.  

Cristóbal

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan Mann
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2023 12:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: not being notified of all text messages

When I noticed the messages that I missed in the MMessages app, VoiceOver did 
not say muted for any of them. W Ryan Mann Certified Assistive Technology 
Instructional Specialist rmann0...@gmail.com
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> On Oct 22, 2023, at 11:47 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Make sure you haven't accidently muted certain conversations. It is pretty 
> obvious, though, if you did Voiceover would say the person's name followed by 
> "muted".
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Ryan Mann
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2023 7:56 AM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: not being notified of all text messages
> 
> I am running iOS 17.03 on an iPhone XR.  For some text messages, I hear my 
> text tone and the message.  For other messages, I don’t even hear the tone 
> and the only way I know about them is if I go into the messages app.  There 
> does not seem to be any pattern of which messages I get notified about and 
> which ones I don’t.  I do not have any focus on and Do Not Disturb is not on 
> either.  Why would this be happening?
> 
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RE: not being notified of all text messages

[Dennis Long]

It is annoying hoping it is fixed in 17.2 betas.  We'll see.  Nope not totally 
fixed in 17.1

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 11:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: not being notified of all text messages

It's a known bug that has yet to be fix by Appple. Some of us deal with it, but 
others are unaffected. It's supremely annoying. I usually have to restart my 
phone once a day. The restart helps, but only for a while. Sometimes, the rest 
of the day, sometimes, just hours.  

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan Mann
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2023 12:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: not being notified of all text messages

When I noticed the messages that I missed in the MMessages app, VoiceOver did 
not say muted for any of them. W Ryan Mann Certified Assistive Technology 
Instructional Specialist rmann0...@gmail.com
386-383-5175


> On Oct 22, 2023, at 11:47 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Make sure you haven't accidently muted certain conversations. It is pretty 
> obvious, though, if you did Voiceover would say the person's name followed by 
> "muted".
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Ryan Mann
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2023 7:56 AM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: not being notified of all text messages
> 
> I am running iOS 17.03 on an iPhone XR.  For some text messages, I hear my 
> text tone and the message.  For other messages, I don’t even hear the tone 
> and the only way I know about them is if I go into the messages app.  There 
> does not seem to be any pattern of which messages I get notified about and 
> which ones I don’t.  I do not have any focus on and Do Not Disturb is not on 
> either.  Why would this be happening?
> 
> Ryan Mann
> Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist 
> rmann0...@gmail.com
> 386-383-5175
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RE: not being notified of all text messages

[Christopher Chaltain]

Actually I cannot. I can't toggle from speed to tone, which I never do, which 
is why I didn't notice it, but I still should have checked myself. I can adjust 
the speed though, which is more important to me. This is with the commercial 
release of the app. I'll check later when I get IOS 17.1 installed to see if 
anything changes.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 11:47 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: not being notified of all text messages

Hello Christopher,

The issue is with the beta.

So, in the latest version of iOS 17, are you saying that you can toggle between 
the playback speed and the playback tone, with no problem in the latest 
commercial release of the BARD app?

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 6:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: not being notified of all text messages

Is the serious bug you mention in the BARD Mobile App in the released  ersion 
of the app or the beta? I've seen it reported on the beta list. I left the beta 
a while ago because of the issue where you can't pause the reading with the 
Shokz headphones, and I haven't seen this issue with the released version of 
the app myself.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 4:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: not being notified of all text messages

Hello,

Okay, I was going to update to iOS 17.1 when released but after hearing about 
the text notification bug, I am sticking with iOS 16.7 until someone on this 
list can confirm that this particular bug has been squashed.

Not only if the notification bug at issue but there is a serious bug with the 
BARD app in iOS 17 concerning playback speed and tone control.  Since I use the 
BARD mobile app on a daily basis and given that I have not yet taken the plunge 
in iOS 17, I'll just hold off for now.

So, after 17.1 is released, all feedback on what, if any, issues have been 
resolved will be greatly appreciated.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 8:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: not being notified of all text messages

It's a known bug that has yet to be fix by Appple. Some of us deal with it, but 
others are unaffected. It's supremely annoying. I usually have to restart my 
phone once a day. The restart helps, but only for a while. Sometimes, the rest 
of the day, sometimes, just hours.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan Mann
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2023 12:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: not being notified of all text messages

When I noticed the messages that I missed in the MMessages app, VoiceOver did 
not say muted for any of them. W Ryan Mann Certified Assistive Technology 
Instructional Specialist rmann0...@gmail.com
386-383-5175


> On Oct 22, 2023, at 11:47 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> Make sure you haven't accidently muted certain conversations. It is pretty 
> obvious, though, if you did Voiceover would say the person's name followed by 
> "muted".
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Ryan Mann
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2023 7:56 AM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: not being notified of all text messages
>
> I am running iOS 17.03 on an iPhone XR.  For some text messages, I hear my 
> text tone and the message.  For other messages, I don’t even hear the tone 
> and the only way I know about them is if I go into the messages app.  There 
> does not seem to be any pattern of which messages I get notified about and 
> which ones I don’t.  I do not have any focus on and Do Not Disturb is not on 
> either.  Why would this be happening?
>
> Ryan Mann
> Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
> rmann0...@gmail.com
> 386-383-5175
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RE: not being notified of all text messages

[M. Taylor]

Hello Christopher,

The issue is with the beta.

So, in the latest version of iOS 17, are you saying that you can toggle between 
the playback speed and the playback tone, with no problem in the latest 
commercial release of the BARD app?

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 6:01 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: not being notified of all text messages

Is the serious bug you mention in the BARD Mobile App in the released  ersion 
of the app or the beta? I've seen it reported on the beta list. I left the beta 
a while ago because of the issue where you can't pause the reading with the 
Shokz headphones, and I haven't seen this issue with the released version of 
the app myself.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 4:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: not being notified of all text messages

Hello,

Okay, I was going to update to iOS 17.1 when released but after hearing about 
the text notification bug, I am sticking with iOS 16.7 until someone on this 
list can confirm that this particular bug has been squashed.

Not only if the notification bug at issue but there is a serious bug with the 
BARD app in iOS 17 concerning playback speed and tone control.  Since I use the 
BARD mobile app on a daily basis and given that I have not yet taken the plunge 
in iOS 17, I'll just hold off for now.

So, after 17.1 is released, all feedback on what, if any, issues have been 
resolved will be greatly appreciated.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 8:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: not being notified of all text messages

It's a known bug that has yet to be fix by Appple. Some of us deal with it, but 
others are unaffected. It's supremely annoying. I usually have to restart my 
phone once a day. The restart helps, but only for a while. Sometimes, the rest 
of the day, sometimes, just hours.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan Mann
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2023 12:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: not being notified of all text messages

When I noticed the messages that I missed in the MMessages app, VoiceOver did 
not say muted for any of them. W Ryan Mann Certified Assistive Technology 
Instructional Specialist rmann0...@gmail.com
386-383-5175


> On Oct 22, 2023, at 11:47 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> Make sure you haven't accidently muted certain conversations. It is pretty 
> obvious, though, if you did Voiceover would say the person's name followed by 
> "muted".
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Ryan Mann
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2023 7:56 AM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: not being notified of all text messages
>
> I am running iOS 17.03 on an iPhone XR.  For some text messages, I hear my 
> text tone and the message.  For other messages, I don’t even hear the tone 
> and the only way I know about them is if I go into the messages app.  There 
> does not seem to be any pattern of which messages I get notified about and 
> which ones I don’t.  I do not have any focus on and Do Not Disturb is not on 
> either.  Why would this be happening?
>
> Ryan Mann
> Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist 
> rmann0...@gmail.com
> 386-383-5175
>
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RE: not being notified of all text messages

[Christopher Chaltain]

Is the serious bug you mention in the BARD Mobile App in the released  ersion 
of the app or the beta? I've seen it reported on the beta list. I left the beta 
a while ago because of the issue where you can't pause the reading with the 
Shokz headphones, and I haven't seen this issue with the released version of 
the app myself.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ) =>÷
Chaltain at Outlook, USA

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor  On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 4:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: not being notified of all text messages

Hello,

Okay, I was going to update to iOS 17.1 when released but after hearing about 
the text notification bug, I am sticking with iOS 16.7 until someone on this 
list can confirm that this particular bug has been squashed.

Not only if the notification bug at issue but there is a serious bug with the 
BARD app in iOS 17 concerning playback speed and tone control.  Since I use the 
BARD mobile app on a daily basis and given that I have not yet taken the plunge 
in iOS 17, I'll just hold off for now.

So, after 17.1 is released, all feedback on what, if any, issues have been 
resolved will be greatly appreciated.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 8:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: not being notified of all text messages

It's a known bug that has yet to be fix by Appple. Some of us deal with it, but 
others are unaffected. It's supremely annoying. I usually have to restart my 
phone once a day. The restart helps, but only for a while. Sometimes, the rest 
of the day, sometimes, just hours.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan Mann
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2023 12:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: not being notified of all text messages

When I noticed the messages that I missed in the MMessages app, VoiceOver did 
not say muted for any of them. W Ryan Mann Certified Assistive Technology 
Instructional Specialist rmann0...@gmail.com
386-383-5175


> On Oct 22, 2023, at 11:47 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> Make sure you haven't accidently muted certain conversations. It is pretty 
> obvious, though, if you did Voiceover would say the person's name followed by 
> "muted".
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Ryan Mann
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2023 7:56 AM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: not being notified of all text messages
>
> I am running iOS 17.03 on an iPhone XR.  For some text messages, I hear my 
> text tone and the message.  For other messages, I don’t even hear the tone 
> and the only way I know about them is if I go into the messages app.  There 
> does not seem to be any pattern of which messages I get notified about and 
> which ones I don’t.  I do not have any focus on and Do Not Disturb is not on 
> either.  Why would this be happening?
>
> Ryan Mann
> Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
> rmann0...@gmail.com
> 386-383-5175
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RE: not being notified of all text messages

[Carolyn Arnold]

I agree, Mark. 

-Original Message-
From: M. Taylor [mailto:mk...@ucla.edu] On Behalf Of M. Taylor
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 5:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: not being notified of all text messages

Hello,

Okay, I was going to update to iOS 17.1 when released but after hearing about 
the text notification bug, I am sticking with iOS 16.7 until someone on this 
list can confirm that this particular bug has been squashed.  

Not only if the notification bug at issue but there is a serious bug with the 
BARD app in iOS 17 concerning playback speed and tone control.  Since I use the 
BARD mobile app on a daily basis and given that I have not yet taken the plunge 
in iOS 17, I'll just hold off for now.

So, after 17.1 is released, all feedback on what, if any, issues have been 
resolved will be greatly appreciated.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 8:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: not being notified of all text messages

It's a known bug that has yet to be fix by Appple. Some of us deal with it, but 
others are unaffected. It's supremely annoying. I usually have to restart my 
phone once a day. The restart helps, but only for a while. Sometimes, the rest 
of the day, sometimes, just hours.  

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan Mann
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2023 12:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: not being notified of all text messages

When I noticed the messages that I missed in the MMessages app, VoiceOver did 
not say muted for any of them. W Ryan Mann Certified Assistive Technology 
Instructional Specialist rmann0...@gmail.com
386-383-5175


> On Oct 22, 2023, at 11:47 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Make sure you haven't accidently muted certain conversations. It is pretty 
> obvious, though, if you did Voiceover would say the person's name followed by 
> "muted".
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Ryan Mann
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2023 7:56 AM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: not being notified of all text messages
> 
> I am running iOS 17.03 on an iPhone XR.  For some text messages, I hear my 
> text tone and the message.  For other messages, I don’t even hear the tone 
> and the only way I know about them is if I go into the messages app.  There 
> does not seem to be any pattern of which messages I get notified about and 
> which ones I don’t.  I do not have any focus on and Do Not Disturb is not on 
> either.  Why would this be happening?
> 
> Ryan Mann
> Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist 
> rmann0...@gmail.com
> 386-383-5175
> 
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RE: not being notified of all text messages

[M. Taylor]

Hello,

Okay, I was going to update to iOS 17.1 when released but after hearing about 
the text notification bug, I am sticking with iOS 16.7 until someone on this 
list can confirm that this particular bug has been squashed.  

Not only if the notification bug at issue but there is a serious bug with the 
BARD app in iOS 17 concerning playback speed and tone control.  Since I use the 
BARD mobile app on a daily basis and given that I have not yet taken the plunge 
in iOS 17, I'll just hold off for now.

So, after 17.1 is released, all feedback on what, if any, issues have been 
resolved will be greatly appreciated.

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2023 8:09 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: not being notified of all text messages

It's a known bug that has yet to be fix by Appple. Some of us deal with it, but 
others are unaffected. It's supremely annoying. I usually have to restart my 
phone once a day. The restart helps, but only for a while. Sometimes, the rest 
of the day, sometimes, just hours.  

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan Mann
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2023 12:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: not being notified of all text messages

When I noticed the messages that I missed in the MMessages app, VoiceOver did 
not say muted for any of them. W Ryan Mann Certified Assistive Technology 
Instructional Specialist rmann0...@gmail.com
386-383-5175


> On Oct 22, 2023, at 11:47 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Make sure you haven't accidently muted certain conversations. It is pretty 
> obvious, though, if you did Voiceover would say the person's name followed by 
> "muted".
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Ryan Mann
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2023 7:56 AM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: not being notified of all text messages
> 
> I am running iOS 17.03 on an iPhone XR.  For some text messages, I hear my 
> text tone and the message.  For other messages, I don’t even hear the tone 
> and the only way I know about them is if I go into the messages app.  There 
> does not seem to be any pattern of which messages I get notified about and 
> which ones I don’t.  I do not have any focus on and Do Not Disturb is not on 
> either.  Why would this be happening?
> 
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[Cristóbal Muñoz]

It's a known bug that has yet to be fix by Appple. Some of us deal with it, but 
others are unaffected. It's supremely annoying. I usually have to restart my 
phone once a day. The restart helps, but only for a while. Sometimes, the rest 
of the day, sometimes, just hours.  

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan Mann
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2023 12:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: not being notified of all text messages

When I noticed the messages that I missed in the MMessages app, VoiceOver did 
not say muted for any of them. W Ryan Mann Certified Assistive Technology 
Instructional Specialist rmann0...@gmail.com
386-383-5175


> On Oct 22, 2023, at 11:47 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Make sure you haven't accidently muted certain conversations. It is pretty 
> obvious, though, if you did Voiceover would say the person's name followed by 
> "muted".
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Ryan Mann
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2023 7:56 AM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: not being notified of all text messages
> 
> I am running iOS 17.03 on an iPhone XR.  For some text messages, I hear my 
> text tone and the message.  For other messages, I don’t even hear the tone 
> and the only way I know about them is if I go into the messages app.  There 
> does not seem to be any pattern of which messages I get notified about and 
> which ones I don’t.  I do not have any focus on and Do Not Disturb is not on 
> either.  Why would this be happening?
> 
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[Dennis Long]

I've noticed this and have reported it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan Mann
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2023 3:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: not being notified of all text messages

When I noticed the messages that I missed in the MMessages app, VoiceOver did 
not say muted for any of them. W
Ryan Mann
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> On Oct 22, 2023, at 11:47 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Make sure you haven't accidently muted certain conversations. It is pretty 
> obvious, though, if you did Voiceover would say the person's name followed by 
> "muted".
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan 
> Mann
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2023 7:56 AM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: not being notified of all text messages
> 
> I am running iOS 17.03 on an iPhone XR.  For some text messages, I hear my 
> text tone and the message.  For other messages, I don’t even hear the tone 
> and the only way I know about them is if I go into the messages app.  There 
> does not seem to be any pattern of which messages I get notified about and 
> which ones I don’t.  I do not have any focus on and Do Not Disturb is not on 
> either.  Why would this be happening?
> 
> Ryan Mann
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Re: not being notified of all text messages

[Ryan Mann]

When I noticed the messages that I missed in the MMessages app, VoiceOver did 
not say muted for any of them. W
Ryan Mann
Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
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> On Oct 22, 2023, at 11:47 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Make sure you haven't accidently muted certain conversations. It is pretty 
> obvious, though, if you did Voiceover would say the person's name followed by 
> "muted".
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan 
> Mann
> Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2023 7:56 AM
> To: via VIPhone 
> Subject: not being notified of all text messages
> 
> I am running iOS 17.03 on an iPhone XR.  For some text messages, I hear my 
> text tone and the message.  For other messages, I don’t even hear the tone 
> and the only way I know about them is if I go into the messages app.  There 
> does not seem to be any pattern of which messages I get notified about and 
> which ones I don’t.  I do not have any focus on and Do Not Disturb is not on 
> either.  Why would this be happening?
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RE: not being notified of all text messages

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Make sure you haven't accidently muted certain conversations. It is pretty 
obvious, though, if you did Voiceover would say the person's name followed by 
"muted".

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Ryan Mann
Sent: Sunday, October 22, 2023 7:56 AM
To: via VIPhone 
Subject: not being notified of all text messages

I am running iOS 17.03 on an iPhone XR.  For some text messages, I hear my text 
tone and the message.  For other messages, I don’t even hear the tone and the 
only way I know about them is if I go into the messages app.  There does not 
seem to be any pattern of which messages I get notified about and which ones I 
don’t.  I do not have any focus on and Do Not Disturb is not on either.  Why 
would this be happening? 

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Re: not being notified of all text messages

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

Sadly I haven't a solution but I can confirm that I've experienced this 
also and you're right it's positively maddening and there seems to be no 
rhyme, reason or pattern of causality to it.


I know that doesn't help and I'm sorry but you're not the only one.

Take good care,

Robin


On 10/22/2023 10:55 AM, Ryan Mann wrote:

I am running iOS 17.03 on an iPhone XR.  For some text messages, I hear my text 
tone and the message.  For other messages, I don’t even hear the tone and the 
only way I know about them is if I go into the messages app.  There does not 
seem to be any pattern of which messages I get notified about and which ones I 
don’t.  I do not have any focus on and Do Not Disturb is not on either.  Why 
would this be happening?

Ryan Mann
Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
rmann0...@gmail.com
386-383-5175



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not being notified of all text messages

[Ryan Mann]

I am running iOS 17.03 on an iPhone XR.  For some text messages, I hear my text 
tone and the message.  For other messages, I don’t even hear the tone and the 
only way I know about them is if I go into the messages app.  There does not 
seem to be any pattern of which messages I get notified about and which ones I 
don’t.  I do not have any focus on and Do Not Disturb is not on either.  Why 
would this be happening? 

Ryan Mann
Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
rmann0...@gmail.com
386-383-5175

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RE: I O S 17/Messages App

[Christopher Chaltain]

My observation is that it will be permanently deleted across all of your 
devices in 30 days. Until then, you can recover it from the recently deleted 
view.

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Chaltain at Outlook, USA

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2023 11:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: I O S 17/Messages App

I just went into Messages, double tapped on edit, and began flicking right with 
one finger and the third option was Show Recently Deleted Messages. I double 
tapped on that, and there were the recently deleted messages and when I touched 
a message and flick up with one finger I went through the options to pin I 
think, delete or recover. I double tapped on delete and was warned it would be 
permanently deleted.

Richard, USA
——
"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley
(Sent from my iPhone)


On Sep 21, 2023, at 7:44 AM, Noe Villeda 
mailto:noeville...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hello all,

I just upgraded yesterday, how do you permanently delete messages?

Before you'd go to edit, and it would read, show recently deleted.  When I go 
to edit, I see update name and photo, but there's no option to show or recover 
deleted messages.


Noe

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Re: I O S 17/Messages App

[Richard Turner]

I just went into Messages, double tapped on edit, and began flicking right with one finger and the third option was Show Recently Deleted Messages. I double tapped on that, and there were the recently deleted messages and when I touched a message and flick up with one finger I went through the options to pin I think, delete or recover. I double tapped on delete and was warned it would be permanently deleted. Richard, USA ——"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley(Sent from my iPhone)On Sep 21, 2023, at 7:44 AM, Noe Villeda  wrote:Hello all, I just upgraded yesterday, how do you permanently delete messages? Before you'd go to edit, and it would read, show recently deleted.  When I go to edit, I see update name and photo, but there's no option to show or recover deleted messages.Noe 



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I O S 17/Messages App

[Noe Villeda]

Hello all,
 
I just upgraded yesterday, how do you permanently delete messages?
 
Before you'd go to edit, and it would read, show recently deleted.  When I
go to edit, I see update name and photo, but there's no option to show or
recover deleted messages.


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Re: Is it possible to recover text messages on my iPhone?

[Feliciano Godoy]

If conversation has been deleted replying won't bring prior messages.

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On Aug 22, 2023, at 9:15 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


Was it a text message or iMessage. Either way you may want to try and send 
another message to that person as doing so may give you access to previously 
sent messages again.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alison 
May
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 7:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Is it possible to recover text messages on my iPhone?

I guess the subject line says it all! I have accidentally deleted a text with 
information I needed to keep. Can I recover this?
Sent from my iPhone by Alison may
0777 315 8181


On 22 Aug 2023, at 12:45 am, joseph hudson  wrote:
I know for me, that I find it happen in one of my first put it on to charge at 
night. Period and no, I have not rebooted my device to device reboot self.


On Aug 21, 2023, at 4:59 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


First of all, after an update there might be stuff going on in the background 
for a day or two which may make it seem like more battery is used and the heat 
thing could very well be connected.
Secondly, have you turned off your device for a few minutes after the update 
and then powered it on again? I occasionally have noticed that my device was 
abnormally warm and often turning it off for a couple of minutes and then back 
on took carre of this.

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Subject: Any IOS devices getting warm after 16.6

Hi all

iPhone XR and iPad 6gen

Updated to 16.6 from 16.2 recently.

No bugs so far but have noticed with 16.6 devices seem to get warm. Not to the 
point of scorching hot but slightly warm. Has anyone else seem such behavior 
running 16.6
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RE: Is it possible to recover text messages on my iPhone?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Thanks for the reminder Mike, I believe this was introduced in iOS 16 and I had 
totally forgotten this was possible now. I just had a look at my deleted 
messages and it's a nice and clean interface, Voicover reads the name of the 
person, how many messages are in the conversation and how many days are left 
before the message/conversation is deleted for good. I think you can access 
messages deleted up to 30 days ago.

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Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 9:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Is it possible to recover text messages on my iPhone?

Was it a text message or iMessage. Either way you may want to try and send 
another message to that person as doing so may give you access to previously 
sent messages again.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alison 
May
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 7:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Is it possible to recover text messages on my iPhone?

I guess the subject line says it all! I have accidentally deleted a text with 
information I needed to keep. Can I recover this?
Sent from my iPhone by Alison may
0777 315 8181

On 22 Aug 2023, at 12:45 am, joseph hudson  wrote:
I know for me, that I find it happen in one of my first put it on to charge at 
night. Period and no, I have not rebooted my device to device reboot self.

On Aug 21, 2023, at 4:59 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


First of all, after an update there might be stuff going on in the background 
for a day or two which may make it seem like more battery is used and the heat 
thing could very well be connected.
Secondly, have you turned off your device for a few minutes after the update 
and then powered it on again? I occasionally have noticed that my device was 
abnormally warm and often turning it off for a couple of minutes and then back 
on took carre of this.

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To: VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Any IOS devices getting warm after 16.6

Hi all

iPhone XR and iPad 6gen

Updated to 16.6 from 16.2 recently.

No bugs so far but have noticed with 16.6 devices seem to get warm. Not to the 
point of scorching hot but slightly warm. Has anyone else seem such behavior 
running 16.6
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RE: Is it possible to recover text messages on my iPhone?

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Was it a text message or iMessage. Either way you may want to try and send 
another message to that person as doing so may give you access to previously 
sent messages again.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Alison 
May
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 7:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Is it possible to recover text messages on my iPhone?

I guess the subject line says it all! I have accidentally deleted a text with 
information I needed to keep. Can I recover this?
Sent from my iPhone by Alison may
0777 315 8181


On 22 Aug 2023, at 12:45 am, joseph hudson  wrote:
I know for me, that I find it happen in one of my first put it on to charge at 
night. Period and no, I have not rebooted my device to device reboot self.


On Aug 21, 2023, at 4:59 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


First of all, after an update there might be stuff going on in the background 
for a day or two which may make it seem like more battery is used and the heat 
thing could very well be connected.
Secondly, have you turned off your device for a few minutes after the update 
and then powered it on again? I occasionally have noticed that my device was 
abnormally warm and often turning it off for a couple of minutes and then back 
on took carre of this.

From: 
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To: VIPhone mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Any IOS devices getting warm after 16.6

Hi all

iPhone XR and iPad 6gen

Updated to 16.6 from 16.2 recently.

No bugs so far but have noticed with 16.6 devices seem to get warm. Not to the 
point of scorching hot but slightly warm. Has anyone else seem such behavior 
running 16.6
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Re: Is it possible to recover text messages on my iPhone?

[Mike B.]

Hi again,

I just found a, Recover all, button along the bottom, so find this and 
single finger double tap , then follow the prompts.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message - 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 9:09 AM
Subject: Re: Is it possible to recover text messages on my iPhone?


Hi Alison may,

Yes, open your Messages App  and swipe to the, Edit button, and single 
finger double tap, to open, now swipe to, Show recently deleted, and open 
this.  I can't give any more steps because I don't have any deleted messages 
to recover, but just swipe around and I believe you'll be able to figure it 
out.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message - 
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 7:43 AM
Subject: Is it possible to recover text messages on my iPhone?


I guess the subject line says it all! I have accidentally deleted a text 
with information I needed to keep. Can I recover this?


Sent from my iPhone by Alison may
0777 315 8181


  On 22 Aug 2023, at 12:45 am, joseph hudson  wrote:


  I know for me, that I find it happen in one of my first put it on to 
charge at night. Period and no, I have not rebooted my device to device 
reboot self.



On Aug 21, 2023, at 4:59 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:


First of all, after an update there might be stuff going on in the 
background for a day or two which may make it seem like more battery is used 
and the heat thing could very well be connected.
Secondly, have you turned off your device for a few minutes after the 
update and then powered it on again? I occasionally have noticed that my 
device was abnormally warm and often turning it off for a couple of minutes 
and then back on took carre of this.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Monday, August 21, 2023 2:41 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Any IOS devices getting warm after 16.6
Hi all
iPhone XR and iPad 6gen
Updated to 16.6 from 16.2 recently.
No bugs so far but have noticed with 16.6 devices seem to get warm. Not 
to the point of scorching hot but slightly warm. Has anyone else seem such 
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Re: Is it possible to recover text messages on my iPhone?

[Mike B.]

Hi Alison may,

Yes, open your Messages App  and swipe to the, Edit button, and single 
finger double tap, to open, now swipe to, Show recently deleted, and open 
this.  I can't give any more steps because I don't have any deleted messages 
to recover, but just swipe around and I believe you'll be able to figure it 
out.

Take care.  Mike.  Sent from my iBarstool.  Go Dodgers!

- Original Message - 
From: Alison May
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 7:43 AM
Subject: Is it possible to recover text messages on my iPhone?


I guess the subject line says it all! I have accidentally deleted a text 
with information I needed to keep. Can I recover this?


Sent from my iPhone by Alison may
0777 315 8181


  On 22 Aug 2023, at 12:45 am, joseph hudson  wrote:


  I know for me, that I find it happen in one of my first put it on to 
charge at night. Period and no, I have not rebooted my device to device 
reboot self.



On Aug 21, 2023, at 4:59 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:



First of all, after an update there might be stuff going on in the 
background for a day or two which may make it seem like more battery is used 
and the heat thing could very well be connected.
Secondly, have you turned off your device for a few minutes after the 
update and then powered it on again? I occasionally have noticed that my 
device was abnormally warm and often turning it off for a couple of minutes 
and then back on took carre of this.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of 
danielm...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2023 2:41 PM
To: VIPhone 
Subject: Any IOS devices getting warm after 16.6

Hi all

iPhone XR and iPad 6gen

Updated to 16.6 from 16.2 recently.

No bugs so far but have noticed with 16.6 devices seem to get warm. Not 
to the point of scorching hot but slightly warm. Has anyone else seem such 
behavior running 16.6
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Re: Is it possible to recover text messages on my iPhone?

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Unfortunately, no. Unless they are backed up to the cloud. Wayne Scott   On Aug 22, 2023, at 8:44 AM, Alison May  wrote:I guess the subject line says it all! I have accidentally deleted a text with information I needed to keep. Can I recover this?Sent from my iPhone by Alison may0777 315 8181On 22 Aug 2023, at 12:45 am, joseph hudson  wrote:I know for me, that I find it happen in one of my first put it on to charge at night. Period and no, I have not rebooted my device to device reboot self.
On Aug 21, 2023, at 4:59 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote: First of all, after an update there might be stuff going on in the background for a day or two which may make it seem like more battery is used and the heat thing could very well be connected.Secondly, have you turned off your device for a few minutes after the update and then powered it on again? I occasionally have noticed that my device was abnormally warm and often turning it off for a couple of minutes and then back on took carre of this. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of danielm...@gmail.comSent: Monday, August 21, 2023 2:41 PMTo: VIPhone Subject: Any IOS devices getting warm after 16.6 Hi all  iPhone XR and iPad 6gen  Updated to 16.6 from 16.2 recently.  No bugs so far but have noticed with 16.6 devices seem to get warm. Not to the point of scorching hot but slightly warm. Has anyone else seem such behavior running 16.6 -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/d279bc93-cf83-477a-b0c4-6f01857be756n%40googlegroups.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB56565EF9F871276EDA49C393C71EA%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.



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Is it possible to recover text messages on my iPhone?

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I guess the subject line says it all! I have accidentally deleted a text with information I needed to keep. Can I recover this?Sent from my iPhone by Alison may0777 315 8181On 22 Aug 2023, at 12:45 am, joseph hudson  wrote:I know for me, that I find it happen in one of my first put it on to charge at night. Period and no, I have not rebooted my device to device reboot self.
On Aug 21, 2023, at 4:59 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote: First of all, after an update there might be stuff going on in the background for a day or two which may make it seem like more battery is used and the heat thing could very well be connected.Secondly, have you turned off your device for a few minutes after the update and then powered it on again? I occasionally have noticed that my device was abnormally warm and often turning it off for a couple of minutes and then back on took carre of this. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of danielm...@gmail.comSent: Monday, August 21, 2023 2:41 PMTo: VIPhone Subject: Any IOS devices getting warm after 16.6 Hi all  iPhone XR and iPad 6gen  Updated to 16.6 from 16.2 recently.  No bugs so far but have noticed with 16.6 devices seem to get warm. Not to the point of scorching hot but slightly warm. Has anyone else seem such behavior running 16.6 -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email toviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/d279bc93-cf83-477a-b0c4-6f01857be756n%40googlegroups.com.-- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at:  mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at:http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/--- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/PH7PR12MB56565EF9F871276EDA49C393C71EA%40PH7PR12MB5656.namprd12.prod.outlook.com.



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Re: How do I send messages? Make phone calls in view contacts in the link to phone app

[Jen .]

Hi,
I unpaired and repaired my phone and all seems to be working now.
Jen

> On Aug 16, 2023, at 2:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> You say "the keypad doesn't show up either", what device are you using? 
> PhoneLink is a Windows 11 app available from the Microsoft Store and as 
> Ricghard said, it requires the "Link to Windows" app to be installed on  your 
> iPhone.
> But once you install the Link to Windows app as well as PhoneLink on your PC 
> and you have successfully paired your phone to the computer by scanning the 
> QR code on the computer screen with your phone, you can for the most part 
> forget about the Link to Windows app on your iPhone, it doesn't even have to 
> be open for this to work.
> On your PC you can set PhoneLink to run at startup, but you can also set it 
> so it stays in the background/system tray so it's not part of your Alt + Tab 
> list of open applications, a bit like Jaws when you set it to run from the 
> system tray.
> There is also another button which I think Richard didn't mention (maybe I 
> didn't notice it), it's called "Open Pane" and if  you activate it you get 
> your iPhone's name, battery level and a button to clear all notifications.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2023 6:21 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How do I send messages? Make phone calls in view contacts in the 
> link to phone app
> 
> Hi I can select new message but there is no list of contacts for me to search 
> from and the same with calls and like I said the keypad doesn’t show up 
> either.
> Jen
> 
>> On Aug 14, 2023, at 9:07 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> My guess is that your phone isn't fully connected.  Does texting work?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the 
>> Universe
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
>> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2023 5:58 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: How do I send messages? Make phone calls in view contacts 
>> in the link to phone app
>> 
>> Hi thanks for this info. Still can’t get in my contact history or call 
>> history and list of contacts to show up. Not sure what to try to get this to 
>> happen.
>> Jen I also don’t get the phone keypad to show up either
>> 
>>>> On Aug 14, 2023, at 2:03 PM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I decided to write up some instructions for using Phone Link for Windows.
>>> 
>>> About using Phone Link with Jaws
>>> Phone Link for Windows seems to remember where you last were in the program.
>>> So, if you exit the app while on Messages, focus will be on the New Message 
>>> button when you start it again.
>>> If you were on the Calls tab, it will start with your call history.
>>> 
>>> I left Phone Link on messages, so when I launched it, Jaws speech history 
>>> shows:
>>> SplashScreen loading
>>> Phone Link
>>> New message Button
>>> 
>>> If I shift tab from the New Message button, I hear:
>>> Features
>>> Secondary Features Settings. No unread items Tab 1 of 1 Alt followed 
>>> by S
>>> 
>>> Shift+tab again and hear:
>>> Features Messages. No unread items Tab 1 of 2 Alt followed by 1
>>> 
>>> Then right arrow once and hear:
>>> Calls. No unread items Tab 2 of 2 Alt followed by 2
>>> 
>>> Now, If you hit spacebar when on Messages and tab you get:
>>> Features Messages. No unread items Tab 1 of 2 Alt followed by 1 Tab 
>>> again to:
>>> Secondary Features Settings. No unread items Tab 1 of 1 Alt followed 
>>> by S Tab again:
>>> New message Button
>>> Tab again:
>>> Conversations List box Recent Conversation with Richard Turner. 
>>> Message preview. Testing. 1 of 1
>>> Tab:
>>> Learn more about messages Button
>>> Keep tabbing and you get info about your phone, etc.
>>> 
>>> When I am on my phone info in Phone Link and press the hotkey for calls, 
>>> Alt+2 I hear:
>>> Call History
>>> Recent calls List box
>>> Carol Davies, Incoming, ?12?-?Aug?-?23 at ?8?:?25? ?PM If I tab then, 
>>> I hear:
>>> Dialer Search your contacts Edit
>>> You can 

RE: How do I send messages? Make phone calls in view contacts in the link to phone app

[Sieghard Weitzel]

You say "the keypad doesn't show up either", what device are you using? 
PhoneLink is a Windows 11 app available from the Microsoft Store and as 
Ricghard said, it requires the "Link to Windows" app to be installed on  your 
iPhone.
But once you install the Link to Windows app as well as PhoneLink on your PC 
and you have successfully paired your phone to the computer by scanning the QR 
code on the computer screen with your phone, you can for the most part forget 
about the Link to Windows app on your iPhone, it doesn't even have to be open 
for this to work.
On your PC you can set PhoneLink to run at startup, but you can also set it so 
it stays in the background/system tray so it's not part of your Alt + Tab list 
of open applications, a bit like Jaws when you set it to run from the system 
tray.
There is also another button which I think Richard didn't mention (maybe I 
didn't notice it), it's called "Open Pane" and if  you activate it you get your 
iPhone's name, battery level and a button to clear all notifications.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2023 6:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I send messages? Make phone calls in view contacts in the 
link to phone app

Hi I can select new message but there is no list of contacts for me to search 
from and the same with calls and like I said the keypad doesn’t show up either.
Jen

> On Aug 14, 2023, at 9:07 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> My guess is that your phone isn't fully connected.  Does texting work?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the 
> Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2023 5:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How do I send messages? Make phone calls in view contacts 
> in the link to phone app
> 
> Hi thanks for this info. Still can’t get in my contact history or call 
> history and list of contacts to show up. Not sure what to try to get this to 
> happen.
> Jen I also don’t get the phone keypad to show up either
> 
>> On Aug 14, 2023, at 2:03 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I decided to write up some instructions for using Phone Link for Windows.
>> 
>> About using Phone Link with Jaws
>> Phone Link for Windows seems to remember where you last were in the program.
>> So, if you exit the app while on Messages, focus will be on the New Message 
>> button when you start it again.
>> If you were on the Calls tab, it will start with your call history.
>> 
>> I left Phone Link on messages, so when I launched it, Jaws speech history 
>> shows:
>> SplashScreen loading
>> Phone Link
>> New message Button
>> 
>> If I shift tab from the New Message button, I hear:
>> Features
>> Secondary Features Settings. No unread items Tab 1 of 1 Alt followed 
>> by S
>> 
>> Shift+tab again and hear:
>> Features Messages. No unread items Tab 1 of 2 Alt followed by 1
>> 
>> Then right arrow once and hear:
>> Calls. No unread items Tab 2 of 2 Alt followed by 2
>> 
>> Now, If you hit spacebar when on Messages and tab you get:
>> Features Messages. No unread items Tab 1 of 2 Alt followed by 1 Tab 
>> again to:
>> Secondary Features Settings. No unread items Tab 1 of 1 Alt followed 
>> by S Tab again:
>> New message Button
>> Tab again:
>> Conversations List box Recent Conversation with Richard Turner. 
>> Message preview. Testing. 1 of 1
>> Tab:
>> Learn more about messages Button
>> Keep tabbing and you get info about your phone, etc.
>> 
>> When I am on my phone info in Phone Link and press the hotkey for calls, 
>> Alt+2 I hear:
>> Call History
>> Recent calls List box
>> Carol Davies, Incoming, ?12?-?Aug?-?23 at ?8?:?25? ?PM If I tab then, 
>> I hear:
>> Dialer Search your contacts Edit
>> You can then search your contacts.
>> If you keep tabbing without searching, you hear:
>> 
>> Keypad
>> 1 Button
>> 2 Button
>> 3 Button
>> 4 Button
>> 5 Button
>> 6 Button
>> 7 Button
>> 8 Button
>> 9 Button
>> * Button
>> 0 Button
>> # Button
>> 
>> If I am in the Search your Contacts and for example type Fred: I get this:
>> 2 results.  Suggestions: 2, fred
>> Fred Meyer Hawthorne. 5 0 3 8 7 2 3 3 0 0 . Work
>> 
>> If I hit enter on that number I hear:
>> 
>> Call

Re: How do I send messages? Make phone calls in view contacts in the link to phone app

[Richard Turner]

Wel, if I knew the steps, I'd be glad to share them. My guess is that you could 
go into the computer bluetooth settings, and remove the phone there. But that 
is a guess. '


Richard, USA 
——
"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley
(Sent from my iPhone)

> On Aug 14, 2023, at 8:23 PM, Jen .  wrote:
> 
> Hi can you please provide the steps to remove all the phone and info and 
> restart again.
> Thanks.
> Jen
> 
>> On Aug 14, 2023, at 9:58 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> So, clearly, something is not working. I'd call Microsoft Accessibility: 
>> 1-800-936-5900
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA 
>> ——
>> "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley
>> (Sent from my iPhone)
>> 
>>>> On Aug 14, 2023, at 6:21 PM, Jen .  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi I can select new message but there is no list of contacts for me to 
>>> search from and the same with calls and like I said the keypad doesn’t show 
>>> up either.
>>> Jen
>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 14, 2023, at 9:07 PM, Richard Turner  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> My guess is that your phone isn't fully connected.  Does texting work?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Richard, USA.
>>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>>> it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>>> 
>>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen 
>>>> .
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2023 5:58 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: How do I send messages? Make phone calls in view contacts in 
>>>> the link to phone app
>>>> 
>>>> Hi thanks for this info. Still can’t get in my contact history or call 
>>>> history and list of contacts to show up. Not sure what to try to get this 
>>>> to happen.
>>>> Jen I also don’t get the phone keypad to show up either
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 14, 2023, at 2:03 PM, Richard Turner 
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I decided to write up some instructions for using Phone Link for Windows.
>>>>> 
>>>>> About using Phone Link with Jaws
>>>>> Phone Link for Windows seems to remember where you last were in the 
>>>>> program.
>>>>> So, if you exit the app while on Messages, focus will be on the New 
>>>>> Message button when you start it again.
>>>>> If you were on the Calls tab, it will start with your call history.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I left Phone Link on messages, so when I launched it, Jaws speech history 
>>>>> shows:
>>>>> SplashScreen loading
>>>>> Phone Link
>>>>> New message Button
>>>>> 
>>>>> If I shift tab from the New Message button, I hear:
>>>>> Features
>>>>> Secondary Features Settings. No unread items Tab 1 of 1 Alt followed 
>>>>> by S
>>>>> 
>>>>> Shift+tab again and hear:
>>>>> Features Messages. No unread items Tab 1 of 2 Alt followed by 1
>>>>> 
>>>>> Then right arrow once and hear:
>>>>> Calls. No unread items Tab 2 of 2 Alt followed by 2
>>>>> 
>>>>> Now, If you hit spacebar when on Messages and tab you get:
>>>>> Features Messages. No unread items Tab 1 of 2 Alt followed by 1 Tab 
>>>>> again to:
>>>>> Secondary Features Settings. No unread items Tab 1 of 1 Alt followed 
>>>>> by S Tab again:
>>>>> New message Button
>>>>> Tab again:
>>>>> Conversations List box Recent Conversation with Richard Turner. 
>>>>> Message preview. Testing. 1 of 1
>>>>> Tab:
>>>>> Learn more about messages Button
>>>>> Keep tabbing and you get info about your phone, etc.
>>>>> 
>>>>> When I am on my phone info in Phone Link and press the hotkey for calls, 
>>>>> Alt+2 I hear:
>>>>> Call History
>>>>> Recent calls List box
>>>>> Carol Davies, Incoming, ?12?-?Aug?-?23 at ?8?:?25? ?PM If I tab then, 
>>>>> I hear:
>>>>> Dialer Searc

Re: How do I send messages? Make phone calls in view contacts in the link to phone app

[Jen .]

Hi can you please provide the steps to remove all the phone and info and 
restart again.
Thanks.
Jen

> On Aug 14, 2023, at 9:58 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> So, clearly, something is not working. I'd call Microsoft Accessibility: 
> 1-800-936-5900
> 
> 
> Richard, USA 
> ——
> "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley
> (Sent from my iPhone)
> 
>> On Aug 14, 2023, at 6:21 PM, Jen .  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi I can select new message but there is no list of contacts for me to 
>> search from and the same with calls and like I said the keypad doesn’t show 
>> up either.
>> Jen
>> 
>>>> On Aug 14, 2023, at 9:07 PM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> My guess is that your phone isn't fully connected.  Does texting work?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>> it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
>>> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2023 5:58 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: How do I send messages? Make phone calls in view contacts in 
>>> the link to phone app
>>> 
>>> Hi thanks for this info. Still can’t get in my contact history or call 
>>> history and list of contacts to show up. Not sure what to try to get this 
>>> to happen.
>>> Jen I also don’t get the phone keypad to show up either
>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 14, 2023, at 2:03 PM, Richard Turner  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I decided to write up some instructions for using Phone Link for Windows.
>>>> 
>>>> About using Phone Link with Jaws
>>>> Phone Link for Windows seems to remember where you last were in the 
>>>> program.
>>>> So, if you exit the app while on Messages, focus will be on the New 
>>>> Message button when you start it again.
>>>> If you were on the Calls tab, it will start with your call history.
>>>> 
>>>> I left Phone Link on messages, so when I launched it, Jaws speech history 
>>>> shows:
>>>> SplashScreen loading
>>>> Phone Link
>>>> New message Button
>>>> 
>>>> If I shift tab from the New Message button, I hear:
>>>> Features
>>>> Secondary Features Settings. No unread items Tab 1 of 1 Alt followed 
>>>> by S
>>>> 
>>>> Shift+tab again and hear:
>>>> Features Messages. No unread items Tab 1 of 2 Alt followed by 1
>>>> 
>>>> Then right arrow once and hear:
>>>> Calls. No unread items Tab 2 of 2 Alt followed by 2
>>>> 
>>>> Now, If you hit spacebar when on Messages and tab you get:
>>>> Features Messages. No unread items Tab 1 of 2 Alt followed by 1 Tab 
>>>> again to:
>>>> Secondary Features Settings. No unread items Tab 1 of 1 Alt followed 
>>>> by S Tab again:
>>>> New message Button
>>>> Tab again:
>>>> Conversations List box Recent Conversation with Richard Turner. 
>>>> Message preview. Testing. 1 of 1
>>>> Tab:
>>>> Learn more about messages Button
>>>> Keep tabbing and you get info about your phone, etc.
>>>> 
>>>> When I am on my phone info in Phone Link and press the hotkey for calls, 
>>>> Alt+2 I hear:
>>>> Call History
>>>> Recent calls List box
>>>> Carol Davies, Incoming, ?12?-?Aug?-?23 at ?8?:?25? ?PM If I tab then, 
>>>> I hear:
>>>> Dialer Search your contacts Edit
>>>> You can then search your contacts.
>>>> If you keep tabbing without searching, you hear:
>>>> 
>>>> Keypad
>>>> 1 Button
>>>> 2 Button
>>>> 3 Button
>>>> 4 Button
>>>> 5 Button
>>>> 6 Button
>>>> 7 Button
>>>> 8 Button
>>>> 9 Button
>>>> * Button
>>>> 0 Button
>>>> # Button
>>>> 
>>>> If I am in the Search your Contacts and for example type Fred: I get this:
>>>> 2 results.  Suggestions: 2, fred
>>>> Fred Meyer Hawthorne. 5 0 3 8 7 2 3 3 0 0 . Work
>>>> 
>>>> If I hit enter on that num

Re: How do I send messages? Make phone calls in view contacts in the link to phone app

[Richard Turner]

So, clearly, something is not working. I'd call Microsoft Accessibility: 
1-800-936-5900


Richard, USA 
——
"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley
(Sent from my iPhone)

> On Aug 14, 2023, at 6:21 PM, Jen .  wrote:
> 
> Hi I can select new message but there is no list of contacts for me to 
> search from and the same with calls and like I said the keypad doesn’t show 
> up either.
> Jen
> 
>> On Aug 14, 2023, at 9:07 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> My guess is that your phone isn't fully connected.  Does texting work?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
>>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
>> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2023 5:58 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: How do I send messages? Make phone calls in view contacts in 
>> the link to phone app
>> 
>> Hi thanks for this info. Still can’t get in my contact history or call 
>> history and list of contacts to show up. Not sure what to try to get this to 
>> happen.
>> Jen I also don’t get the phone keypad to show up either
>> 
>>>> On Aug 14, 2023, at 2:03 PM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I decided to write up some instructions for using Phone Link for Windows.
>>> 
>>> About using Phone Link with Jaws
>>> Phone Link for Windows seems to remember where you last were in the program.
>>> So, if you exit the app while on Messages, focus will be on the New Message 
>>> button when you start it again.
>>> If you were on the Calls tab, it will start with your call history.
>>> 
>>> I left Phone Link on messages, so when I launched it, Jaws speech history 
>>> shows:
>>> SplashScreen loading
>>> Phone Link
>>> New message Button
>>> 
>>> If I shift tab from the New Message button, I hear:
>>> Features
>>> Secondary Features Settings. No unread items Tab 1 of 1 Alt followed 
>>> by S
>>> 
>>> Shift+tab again and hear:
>>> Features Messages. No unread items Tab 1 of 2 Alt followed by 1
>>> 
>>> Then right arrow once and hear:
>>> Calls. No unread items Tab 2 of 2 Alt followed by 2
>>> 
>>> Now, If you hit spacebar when on Messages and tab you get:
>>> Features Messages. No unread items Tab 1 of 2 Alt followed by 1 Tab 
>>> again to:
>>> Secondary Features Settings. No unread items Tab 1 of 1 Alt followed 
>>> by S Tab again:
>>> New message Button
>>> Tab again:
>>> Conversations List box Recent Conversation with Richard Turner. 
>>> Message preview. Testing. 1 of 1
>>> Tab:
>>> Learn more about messages Button
>>> Keep tabbing and you get info about your phone, etc.
>>> 
>>> When I am on my phone info in Phone Link and press the hotkey for calls, 
>>> Alt+2 I hear:
>>> Call History
>>> Recent calls List box
>>> Carol Davies, Incoming, ?12?-?Aug?-?23 at ?8?:?25? ?PM If I tab then, 
>>> I hear:
>>> Dialer Search your contacts Edit
>>> You can then search your contacts.
>>> If you keep tabbing without searching, you hear:
>>> 
>>> Keypad
>>> 1 Button
>>> 2 Button
>>> 3 Button
>>> 4 Button
>>> 5 Button
>>> 6 Button
>>> 7 Button
>>> 8 Button
>>> 9 Button
>>> * Button
>>> 0 Button
>>> # Button
>>> 
>>> If I am in the Search your Contacts and for example type Fred: I get this:
>>> 2 results.  Suggestions: 2, fred
>>> Fred Meyer Hawthorne. 5 0 3 8 7 2 3 3 0 0 . Work
>>> 
>>> If I hit enter on that number I hear:
>>> 
>>> Call Dialed number ( 5 0 3 ) 8 7 2 - 3 3 0 0 Button If I hit enter 
>>> again, I call that number from my computer using my phone.
>>> The focus with Jaws lands on the End Call button, or if your phone is handy 
>>> you can do the standard two finger double tap to hang up.
>>> 
>>> If you are on the messages tab, New Message Button and hit spacebar or 
>>> enter, you land in the to field.
>>> If I use the above example and type Fred I get the same results, and 
>>> if I hit enter, I am in an edit box to type my text message.
>>> Not

Re: How do I send messages? Make phone calls in view contacts in the link to phone app

[Jen .]

Hi I can select new message but there is no list of contacts for me to search 
from and the same with calls and like I said the keypad doesn’t show up either.
Jen

> On Aug 14, 2023, at 9:07 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> My guess is that your phone isn't fully connected.  Does texting work?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
> Sent: Monday, August 14, 2023 5:58 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How do I send messages? Make phone calls in view contacts in the 
> link to phone app
> 
> Hi thanks for this info. Still can’t get in my contact history or call 
> history and list of contacts to show up. Not sure what to try to get this to 
> happen.
> Jen I also don’t get the phone keypad to show up either
> 
>> On Aug 14, 2023, at 2:03 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I decided to write up some instructions for using Phone Link for Windows.
>> 
>> About using Phone Link with Jaws
>> Phone Link for Windows seems to remember where you last were in the program.
>> So, if you exit the app while on Messages, focus will be on the New Message 
>> button when you start it again.
>> If you were on the Calls tab, it will start with your call history.
>> 
>> I left Phone Link on messages, so when I launched it, Jaws speech history 
>> shows:
>> SplashScreen loading
>> Phone Link
>> New message Button
>> 
>> If I shift tab from the New Message button, I hear:
>> Features
>> Secondary Features Settings. No unread items Tab 1 of 1 Alt followed 
>> by S
>> 
>> Shift+tab again and hear:
>> Features Messages. No unread items Tab 1 of 2 Alt followed by 1
>> 
>> Then right arrow once and hear:
>> Calls. No unread items Tab 2 of 2 Alt followed by 2
>> 
>> Now, If you hit spacebar when on Messages and tab you get:
>> Features Messages. No unread items Tab 1 of 2 Alt followed by 1 Tab 
>> again to:
>> Secondary Features Settings. No unread items Tab 1 of 1 Alt followed 
>> by S Tab again:
>> New message Button
>> Tab again:
>> Conversations List box Recent Conversation with Richard Turner. 
>> Message preview. Testing. 1 of 1
>> Tab:
>> Learn more about messages Button
>> Keep tabbing and you get info about your phone, etc.
>> 
>> When I am on my phone info in Phone Link and press the hotkey for calls, 
>> Alt+2 I hear:
>> Call History
>> Recent calls List box
>> Carol Davies, Incoming, ?12?-?Aug?-?23 at ?8?:?25? ?PM If I tab then, 
>> I hear:
>> Dialer Search your contacts Edit
>> You can then search your contacts.
>> If you keep tabbing without searching, you hear:
>> 
>> Keypad
>> 1 Button
>> 2 Button
>> 3 Button
>> 4 Button
>> 5 Button
>> 6 Button
>> 7 Button
>> 8 Button
>> 9 Button
>> * Button
>> 0 Button
>> # Button
>> 
>> If I am in the Search your Contacts and for example type Fred: I get this:
>> 2 results.  Suggestions: 2, fred
>> Fred Meyer Hawthorne. 5 0 3 8 7 2 3 3 0 0 . Work
>> 
>> If I hit enter on that number I hear:
>> 
>> Call Dialed number ( 5 0 3 ) 8 7 2 - 3 3 0 0 Button If I hit enter 
>> again, I call that number from my computer using my phone.
>> The focus with Jaws lands on the End Call button, or if your phone is handy 
>> you can do the standard two finger double tap to hang up.
>> 
>> If you are on the messages tab, New Message Button and hit spacebar or 
>> enter, you land in the to field.
>> If I use the above example and type Fred I get the same results, and 
>> if I hit enter, I am in an edit box to type my text message.
>> Note, As far as I can tell, you cannot enter hard returns/new lines in a 
>> text message, when you hit enter, it sends the message.
>> 
>> I hope that is helpful,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the 
>> Universe
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2023 7:39 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: How do I send 

RE: How do I send messages? Make phone calls in view contacts in the link to phone app

[Richard Turner]

My guess is that your phone isn't fully connected.  Does texting work?




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
Sent: Monday, August 14, 2023 5:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I send messages? Make phone calls in view contacts in the 
link to phone app

Hi thanks for this info. Still can’t get in my contact history or call history 
and list of contacts to show up. Not sure what to try to get this to happen.
Jen I also don’t get the phone keypad to show up either

> On Aug 14, 2023, at 2:03 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I decided to write up some instructions for using Phone Link for Windows.
> 
> About using Phone Link with Jaws
> Phone Link for Windows seems to remember where you last were in the program.
> So, if you exit the app while on Messages, focus will be on the New Message 
> button when you start it again.
> If you were on the Calls tab, it will start with your call history.
> 
> I left Phone Link on messages, so when I launched it, Jaws speech history 
> shows:
> SplashScreen loading
> Phone Link
> New message Button
> 
> If I shift tab from the New Message button, I hear:
> Features
> Secondary Features Settings. No unread items Tab 1 of 1 Alt followed 
> by S
> 
> Shift+tab again and hear:
> Features Messages. No unread items Tab 1 of 2 Alt followed by 1
> 
> Then right arrow once and hear:
> Calls. No unread items Tab 2 of 2 Alt followed by 2
> 
> Now, If you hit spacebar when on Messages and tab you get:
> Features Messages. No unread items Tab 1 of 2 Alt followed by 1 Tab 
> again to:
> Secondary Features Settings. No unread items Tab 1 of 1 Alt followed 
> by S Tab again:
> New message Button
> Tab again:
> Conversations List box Recent Conversation with Richard Turner. 
> Message preview. Testing. 1 of 1
> Tab:
> Learn more about messages Button
> Keep tabbing and you get info about your phone, etc.
> 
> When I am on my phone info in Phone Link and press the hotkey for calls, 
> Alt+2 I hear:
> Call History
> Recent calls List box
> Carol Davies, Incoming, ?12?-?Aug?-?23 at ?8?:?25? ?PM If I tab then, 
> I hear:
> Dialer Search your contacts Edit
> You can then search your contacts.
> If you keep tabbing without searching, you hear:
> 
> Keypad
> 1 Button
> 2 Button
> 3 Button
> 4 Button
> 5 Button
> 6 Button
> 7 Button
> 8 Button
> 9 Button
> * Button
> 0 Button
> # Button
> 
> If I am in the Search your Contacts and for example type Fred: I get this:
> 2 results.  Suggestions: 2, fred
> Fred Meyer Hawthorne. 5 0 3 8 7 2 3 3 0 0 . Work
> 
> If I hit enter on that number I hear:
> 
> Call Dialed number ( 5 0 3 ) 8 7 2 - 3 3 0 0 Button If I hit enter 
> again, I call that number from my computer using my phone.
> The focus with Jaws lands on the End Call button, or if your phone is handy 
> you can do the standard two finger double tap to hang up.
> 
> If you are on the messages tab, New Message Button and hit spacebar or enter, 
> you land in the to field.
> If I use the above example and type Fred I get the same results, and 
> if I hit enter, I am in an edit box to type my text message.
> Note, As far as I can tell, you cannot enter hard returns/new lines in a text 
> message, when you hit enter, it sends the message.
> 
> I hope that is helpful,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the 
> Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2023 7:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How do I send messages? Make phone calls in view contacts 
> in the link to phone app
> 
> Are you sure you got your phone connected? Perhaps  calling Microsoft 
> accessibility 800-936-5900
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> ——
> "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John 
> Wesley (Sent from my iPhone)
> 
>> On Aug 12, 2023, at 7:20 PM, Jen .  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I don't see any contact info anywhere when I select calls or messages.
>> Jen
>> 
>>>> On Aug 12, 2023, at 8:04 PM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> After you select messages or calls, your contact list will show up when 
>>> you tab.  At least it does f

Re: How do I send messages? Make phone calls in view contacts in the link to phone app

[Jen .]

Hi thanks for this info. Still can’t get in my contact history or call history 
and list of contacts to show up. Not sure what to try to get this to happen.
Jen I also don’t get the phone keypad to show up either

> On Aug 14, 2023, at 2:03 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I decided to write up some instructions for using Phone Link for Windows.
> 
> About using Phone Link with Jaws
> Phone Link for Windows seems to remember where you last were in the program.
> So, if you exit the app while on Messages, focus will be on the New Message 
> button when you start it again.
> If you were on the Calls tab, it will start with your call history.
> 
> I left Phone Link on messages, so when I launched it, Jaws speech history 
> shows:
> SplashScreen loading
> Phone Link
> New message Button
> 
> If I shift tab from the New Message button, I hear:
> Features
> Secondary Features Settings. No unread items Tab 1 of 1 Alt followed by S
> 
> Shift+tab again and hear:
> Features Messages. No unread items Tab 1 of 2 Alt followed by 1
> 
> Then right arrow once and hear:
> Calls. No unread items Tab 2 of 2 Alt followed by 2
> 
> Now, If you hit spacebar when on Messages and tab you get:
> Features Messages. No unread items Tab 1 of 2 Alt followed by 1
> Tab again to:
> Secondary Features Settings. No unread items Tab 1 of 1 Alt followed by S
> Tab again:
> New message Button
> Tab again:
> Conversations List box Recent Conversation with Richard Turner. Message 
> preview. Testing. 1 of 1
> Tab:
> Learn more about messages Button
> Keep tabbing and you get info about your phone, etc.
> 
> When I am on my phone info in Phone Link and press the hotkey for calls, 
> Alt+2 I hear:
> Call History
> Recent calls List box
> Carol Davies, Incoming, ?12?-?Aug?-?23 at ?8?:?25? ?PM
> If I tab then, I hear:
> Dialer Search your contacts Edit
> You can then search your contacts.
> If you keep tabbing without searching, you hear:
> 
> Keypad
> 1 Button
> 2 Button
> 3 Button
> 4 Button
> 5 Button
> 6 Button
> 7 Button
> 8 Button
> 9 Button
> * Button
> 0 Button
> # Button
> 
> If I am in the Search your Contacts and for example type Fred: I get this:
> 2 results.  Suggestions: 2, fred
> Fred Meyer Hawthorne. 5 0 3 8 7 2 3 3 0 0 . Work
> 
> If I hit enter on that number I hear:
> 
> Call Dialed number ( 5 0 3 ) 8 7 2 - 3 3 0 0 Button
> If I hit enter again, I call that number from my computer using my phone.
> The focus with Jaws lands on the End Call button, or if your phone is handy 
> you can do the standard two finger double tap to hang up.
> 
> If you are on the messages tab, New Message Button and hit spacebar or enter, 
> you land in the to field.
> If I use the above example and type Fred
> I get the same results, and if I hit enter, I am in an edit box to type my 
> text message.
> Note, As far as I can tell, you cannot enter hard returns/new lines in a text 
> message, when you hit enter, it sends the message.
> 
> I hope that is helpful,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2023 7:39 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How do I send messages? Make phone calls in view contacts in the 
> link to phone app
> 
> Are you sure you got your phone connected? Perhaps  calling Microsoft 
> accessibility 800-936-5900
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA
> ——
> "While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley 
> (Sent from my iPhone)
> 
>> On Aug 12, 2023, at 7:20 PM, Jen .  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I don't see any contact info anywhere when I select calls or messages.
>> Jen
>> 
>>>> On Aug 12, 2023, at 8:04 PM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> After you select messages or calls, your contact list will show up when 
>>> you tab.  At least it does for me.
>>> 
>>> As for the sound, it seems to be a Windows Notification.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>>> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in 
>>> the Universe
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  

RE: How do I send messages? Make phone calls in view contacts in the link to phone app

[Richard Turner]

I decided to write up some instructions for using Phone Link for Windows.

About using Phone Link with Jaws
Phone Link for Windows seems to remember where you last were in the program.
So, if you exit the app while on Messages, focus will be on the New Message 
button when you start it again.
If you were on the Calls tab, it will start with your call history.

I left Phone Link on messages, so when I launched it, Jaws speech history shows:
SplashScreen loading
Phone Link
New message Button

If I shift tab from the New Message button, I hear:
Features
Secondary Features Settings. No unread items Tab 1 of 1 Alt followed by S

Shift+tab again and hear:
Features Messages. No unread items Tab 1 of 2 Alt followed by 1

Then right arrow once and hear:
Calls. No unread items Tab 2 of 2 Alt followed by 2

Now, If you hit spacebar when on Messages and tab you get:
Features Messages. No unread items Tab 1 of 2 Alt followed by 1
Tab again to:
Secondary Features Settings. No unread items Tab 1 of 1 Alt followed by S
Tab again:
New message Button
Tab again:
Conversations List box Recent Conversation with Richard Turner. Message 
preview. Testing. 1 of 1
Tab:
Learn more about messages Button
Keep tabbing and you get info about your phone, etc.

When I am on my phone info in Phone Link and press the hotkey for calls, Alt+2 
I hear:
Call History
Recent calls List box
Carol Davies, Incoming, ?12?-?Aug?-?23 at ?8?:?25? ?PM
If I tab then, I hear:
Dialer Search your contacts Edit
You can then search your contacts.
If you keep tabbing without searching, you hear:

Keypad
1 Button
2 Button
3 Button
4 Button
5 Button
6 Button
7 Button
8 Button
9 Button
* Button
0 Button
# Button

If I am in the Search your Contacts and for example type Fred: I get this:
2 results.  Suggestions: 2, fred
Fred Meyer Hawthorne. 5 0 3 8 7 2 3 3 0 0 . Work

If I hit enter on that number I hear:

Call Dialed number ( 5 0 3 ) 8 7 2 - 3 3 0 0 Button
If I hit enter again, I call that number from my computer using my phone.
The focus with Jaws lands on the End Call button, or if your phone is handy you 
can do the standard two finger double tap to hang up.

If you are on the messages tab, New Message Button and hit spacebar or enter, 
you land in the to field.
If I use the above example and type Fred
I get the same results, and if I hit enter, I am in an edit box to type my text 
message.
Note, As far as I can tell, you cannot enter hard returns/new lines in a text 
message, when you hit enter, it sends the message.

I hope that is helpful,





Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2023 7:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I send messages? Make phone calls in view contacts in the 
link to phone app

Are you sure you got your phone connected? Perhaps  calling Microsoft 
accessibility 800-936-5900



Richard, USA
——
"While striving for perfection, let us do what is possible." — John Wesley 
(Sent from my iPhone)

> On Aug 12, 2023, at 7:20 PM, Jen .  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I don't see any contact info anywhere when I select calls or messages.
> Jen
> 
>> On Aug 12, 2023, at 8:04 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> After you select messages or calls, your contact list will show up when you 
>> tab.  At least it does for me.
>> 
>> As for the sound, it seems to be a Windows Notification.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch 
>> with it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in 
>> the Universe
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
>> Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2023 4:36 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: How do I send messages? Make phone calls in view 
>> contacts in the link to phone app
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Also is there a Contacts tab in there didn't see one before so wondering 
>> where you would search your contacts.
>> Also does a sound play or anything when you get a message or send one.
>> Thanks.
>> Jen
>> 
>>>> On Aug 12, 2023, at 7:32 PM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It isn't terribly straight forward.
>>> Tab t until you get to a spot that says features.  You will either be on 
>>> messages or calls.  Use your left or right arrow to move between them.
>>> If on messages, tab a couple of times maybe and you should land on a new 
>>> message button.
>>> 

Re: How do I send messages? Make phone calls in view contacts in the link to phone app

[Richard Turner]

Are you sure you got your phone connected? Perhaps  calling Microsoft 
accessibility 800-936-5900



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> On Aug 12, 2023, at 7:20 PM, Jen .  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I don't see any contact info anywhere when I select calls or messages.
> Jen
> 
>> On Aug 12, 2023, at 8:04 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> After you select messages or calls, your contact list will show up when you 
>> tab.  At least it does for me.
>> 
>> As for the sound, it seems to be a Windows Notification.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
>>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
>> Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2023 4:36 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: How do I send messages? Make phone calls in view contacts in 
>> the link to phone app
>> 
>> Hi,
>> Also is there a Contacts tab in there didn't see one before so wondering 
>> where you would search your contacts.
>> Also does a sound play or anything when you get a message or send one.
>> Thanks.
>> Jen
>> 
>>>> On Aug 12, 2023, at 7:32 PM, Richard Turner  
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It isn't terribly straight forward.
>>> Tab t until you get to a spot that says features.  You will either be on 
>>> messages or calls.  Use your left or right arrow to move between them.
>>> If on messages, tab a couple of times maybe and you should land on a new 
>>> message button.
>>> Hit space or enter.
>>> You can enter a name from your contacts, or I suspect a phone number, and 
>>> you will likely need to arrow down to what you want and hit enter. Then you 
>>> will be in an edit box where you type your message.  If you hit enter, it 
>>> will send what you have typed.
>>> 
>>> From features, if you arrow to calls, then tab, you should find recent 
>>> calls, then you can tab to a box to search your contacts.  I find I end up 
>>> hitting enter and it calls.  Tab and you will find an end call button, 
>>> hopefully...
>>> 
>>> I have not found any hotkeys for this. 
>>> HTH,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Richard, USA.
>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with 
>>> it.”  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>>> 
>>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
>>> Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2023 4:15 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: How do I send messages? Make phone calls in view contacts in the 
>>> link to phone app
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> I just linked my phone to my Windows dell PC and everything went OK but now 
>>> wondering how I make and receive calls send messages as well as view my 
>>> contacts on my PC.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Jen
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Re: How do I send messages? Make phone calls in view contacts in the link to phone app

[Jen .]

Hi,
I don't see any contact info anywhere when I select calls or messages.
Jen

> On Aug 12, 2023, at 8:04 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> After you select messages or calls, your contact list will show up when you 
> tab.  At least it does for me.
> 
> As for the sound, it seems to be a Windows Notification.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
> Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2023 4:36 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: How do I send messages? Make phone calls in view contacts in the 
> link to phone app
> 
> Hi,
> Also is there a Contacts tab in there didn't see one before so wondering 
> where you would search your contacts.
> Also does a sound play or anything when you get a message or send one.
> Thanks.
> Jen
> 
>> On Aug 12, 2023, at 7:32 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> It isn't terribly straight forward.
>> Tab t until you get to a spot that says features.  You will either be on 
>> messages or calls.  Use your left or right arrow to move between them.
>> If on messages, tab a couple of times maybe and you should land on a new 
>> message button.
>> Hit space or enter.
>> You can enter a name from your contacts, or I suspect a phone number, and 
>> you will likely need to arrow down to what you want and hit enter. Then you 
>> will be in an edit box where you type your message.  If you hit enter, it 
>> will send what you have typed.
>> 
>> From features, if you arrow to calls, then tab, you should find recent 
>> calls, then you can tab to a box to search your contacts.  I find I end up 
>> hitting enter and it calls.  Tab and you will find an end call button, 
>> hopefully...
>> 
>> I have not found any hotkeys for this. 
>> HTH,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard, USA.
>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” 
>>  --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
>> 
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
>> Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2023 4:15 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: How do I send messages? Make phone calls in view contacts in the 
>> link to phone app
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I just linked my phone to my Windows dell PC and everything went OK but now 
>> wondering how I make and receive calls send messages as well as view my 
>> contacts on my PC.
>> Thanks.
>> Jen
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RE: How do I send messages? Make phone calls in view contacts in the link to phone app

[Richard Turner]

After you select messages or calls, your contact list will show up when you 
tab.  At least it does for me.

As for the sound, it seems to be a Windows Notification.




Richard, USA.
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2023 4:36 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: How do I send messages? Make phone calls in view contacts in the 
link to phone app

Hi,
Also is there a Contacts tab in there didn't see one before so wondering where 
you would search your contacts.
Also does a sound play or anything when you get a message or send one.
Thanks.
Jen

> On Aug 12, 2023, at 7:32 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> It isn't terribly straight forward.
> Tab t until you get to a spot that says features.  You will either be on 
> messages or calls.  Use your left or right arrow to move between them.
> If on messages, tab a couple of times maybe and you should land on a new 
> message button.
> Hit space or enter.
> You can enter a name from your contacts, or I suspect a phone number, and you 
> will likely need to arrow down to what you want and hit enter. Then you will 
> be in an edit box where you type your message.  If you hit enter, it will 
> send what you have typed.
> 
> From features, if you arrow to calls, then tab, you should find recent calls, 
> then you can tab to a box to search your contacts.  I find I end up hitting 
> enter and it calls.  Tab and you will find an end call button, hopefully...
> 
> I have not found any hotkeys for this. 
> HTH,
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
> Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2023 4:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: How do I send messages? Make phone calls in view contacts in the 
> link to phone app
> 
> Hi,
> I just linked my phone to my Windows dell PC and everything went OK but now 
> wondering how I make and receive calls send messages as well as view my 
> contacts on my PC.
> Thanks.
> Jen
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Re: How do I send messages? Make phone calls in view contacts in the link to phone app

[Jen .]

Hi,
Also is there a Contacts tab in there didn't see one before so wondering where 
you would search your contacts.
Also does a sound play or anything when you get a message or send one.
Thanks.
Jen

> On Aug 12, 2023, at 7:32 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> It isn't terribly straight forward.
> Tab t until you get to a spot that says features.  You will either be on 
> messages or calls.  Use your left or right arrow to move between them.
> If on messages, tab a couple of times maybe and you should land on a new 
> message button.
> Hit space or enter.
> You can enter a name from your contacts, or I suspect a phone number, and you 
> will likely need to arrow down to what you want and hit enter. Then you will 
> be in an edit box where you type your message.  If you hit enter, it will 
> send what you have typed.
> 
> From features, if you arrow to calls, then tab, you should find recent calls, 
> then you can tab to a box to search your contacts.  I find I end up hitting 
> enter and it calls.  Tab and you will find an end call button, hopefully...
> 
> I have not found any hotkeys for this. 
> HTH,
> 
> 
> 
> Richard, USA.
> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.”  
> --  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe
> 
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jen .
> Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2023 4:15 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: How do I send messages? Make phone calls in view contacts in the 
> link to phone app
> 
> Hi,
> I just linked my phone to my Windows dell PC and everything went OK but now 
> wondering how I make and receive calls send messages as well as view my 
> contacts on my PC.
> Thanks.
> Jen
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RE: How do I send messages? Make phone calls in view contacts in the link to phone app

[Richard Turner]

It isn't terribly straight forward.
Tab t until you get to a spot that says features.  You will either be on 
messages or calls.  Use your left or right arrow to move between them.
If on messages, tab a couple of times maybe and you should land on a new 
message button.
Hit space or enter.
You can enter a name from your contacts, or I suspect a phone number, and you 
will likely need to arrow down to what you want and hit enter. Then you will be 
in an edit box where you type your message.  If you hit enter, it will send 
what you have typed.

>From features, if you arrow to calls, then tab, you should find recent calls, 
>then you can tab to a box to search your contacts.  I find I end up hitting 
>enter and it calls.  Tab and you will find an end call button, hopefully...

I have not found any hotkeys for this. 
HTH,



Richard, USA.
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--  Jane Wagner from The Search for Intelligent Life in the Universe

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

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Subject: How do I send messages? Make phone calls in view contacts in the link 
to phone app

Hi,
I just linked my phone to my Windows dell PC and everything went OK but now 
wondering how I make and receive calls send messages as well as view my 
contacts on my PC.
Thanks.
Jen

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How do I send messages? Make phone calls in view contacts in the link to phone app

[Jen .]

Hi,
I just linked my phone to my Windows dell PC and everything went OK but now 
wondering how I make and receive calls send messages as well as view my 
contacts on my PC.
Thanks.
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please do not update whatsapp V2.23.14.74 if you are fond of reacting with standard whatsapp smilies on messages

[davycuppens]

Please do not update tot his version. You can react with smilies, however
you cannot check who is sending these emoticons, if you open that pannel,
you get a sort of gibberish.
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Re: Could Not Delete Text Messages or Voice Mails

[Alan Lemly]

I'll add to Sieghard's comment that you should leave screen recognition in your rotor because I'm finding more situations where a particular app seems not to speak many of its controls and turning on screen recognition via the rotor works wonders. Just decide whether to leave it turned on or not for that app before exiting. Also, I'd caution anyone from leaving their rotor set on screen recognition. I prefer moving it to something benign like headings before going to another task. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhoneOn May 25, 2023, at 8:29 PM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:







Whenever something strange is going on checking screen recognition and doing a reboot are always what people should do first.
 


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Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2023 9:04 AM
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Subject: Could Not Delete Text Messages or Voice Mails


 
This message is about my inability to delete voice mail and text messages and how we solved it. I am posting this in case someone else has this problem. If you have not, feel free to hit the delete key now.
 
A couple of months ago I suddenly could not delete texts or voicemails. I would flick up and down and all option were gone. Then I did an iOS update and the problem went away.  A week ago it came back. 

 
A wonderful Apple agent helped me figure out that the problem was with the rotor. There is a feature on there called Screen Recognition and it was selected. We figured out that it kept unselected Actions, without which I could not delete.Works
 perfectly now! 
 
Sandy Finley
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RE: Could Not Delete Text Messages or Voice Mails

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Whenever something strange is going on checking screen recognition and doing a 
reboot are always what people should do first.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sandra 
Finley
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2023 9:04 AM
To: iPhone List 
Subject: Could Not Delete Text Messages or Voice Mails

This message is about my inability to delete voice mail and text messages and 
how we solved it. I am posting this in case someone else has this problem. If 
you have not, feel free to hit the delete key now.

A couple of months ago I suddenly could not delete texts or voicemails. I would 
flick up and down and all option were gone. Then I did an iOS update and the 
problem went away.  A week ago it came back.

A wonderful Apple agent helped me figure out that the problem was with the 
rotor. There is a feature on there called Screen Recognition and it was 
selected. We figured out that it kept unselected Actions, without which I could 
not delete.Works perfectly now!

Sandy Finley
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Could Not Delete Text Messages or Voice Mails

[Sandra Finley]

This message is about my inability to delete voice mail and text messages
and how we solved it. I am posting this in case someone else has this
problem. If you have not, feel free to hit the delete key now.

 

A couple of months ago I suddenly could not delete texts or voicemails. I
would flick up and down and all option were gone. Then I did an iOS update
and the problem went away.  A week ago it came back.  

 

A wonderful Apple agent helped me figure out that the problem was with the
rotor. There is a feature on there called Screen Recognition and it was
selected. We figured out that it kept unselected Actions, without which I
could not delete.Works perfectly now! 

 

Sandy Finley

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RE: unread messages

[Albert Brown]

Thanks very much that sorted out the problem.

ALBERT

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Jennie 
Facer
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2023 9:39 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: unread messages

Hi,

What you need to do is go into settings, then notifications, then messages and 
turn badges on. The badge is the number of messages that you have.

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi


On May 24, 2023, at 2:04 PM, Albert Brown 
 
wrote:

Hello,
Not sure whether I have changed something on my iPhone 14.
When I swipe on the home screen passed messages I am no longer informed
there are a number of unread messages The message icon just says 
messages.
What have I changed.

ALBERT

JAWS HOME USE EDITION. VERSION 2023.2303.144

MICROSOFT WINDOWS
Operating System
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Re: unread messages

[Jennie Facer]

Hi,

What you need to do is go into settings, then notifications, then messages and 
turn badges on. The badge is the number of messages that you have.

Jenn
Jenn and Kumi   

> On May 24, 2023, at 2:04 PM, Albert Brown  
> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> Not sure whether I have changed something on my iPhone 14.
> When I swipe on the home screen passed messages I am no longer informed
> there are a number of unread messages The message icon just says messages.
> What have I changed.
> 
> ALBERT
> 
> JAWS HOME USE EDITION. VERSION 2023.2303.144
> 
> MICROSOFT WINDOWS
> Operating System
> Windows 11 Home (x64) Version 22H2 (built 22621.1635)
> 
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