subject:"RE\: \[Vo\]\:Vector Potential Wave Radio"

David,  the ASR-9 is an airport survellience radar.  That is correct about
the gain,  weather/military doppler radar gains are 45-50 dbi, more focused
dishes.  The instantaneous pulses are  1,000,000 watts but they are only
on for 1/1000 of each second.  Does nature average that high power pulse
over 1 second like you are doing?  And if it does, how does nature do that?
 Does it induce instantaneous electrical currents?  Nature operates at the
speed of light, right?  A lot goes on in nature in 1/1000 of a second that
we don't even see.



On Sunday, May 11, 2014, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:

 The specifications for the radar system below are typical of a pulsed
 radar system and not what I would expect from a standard Doppler radar.
 The duty cycle appears to be .1% for the unit listed whereas a Doppler
 radar is CW.  The average power is 1300 watts of RF into the antenna, I
 assume.  The gain of the antenna may be 34 dB relative to an isotropic
 radiator.

 Someone might be thinking of a pulsed Doppler radar which measures the
 change in transmit frequency of the returning pulses to get target velocity
 information.  That type of radar is not a standard Doppler.

 Dave



  -Original Message-
 From: Eric Walker 
 eric.wal...@gmail.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','eric.wal...@gmail.com');
 
 To: vortex-l 
 vortex-l@eskimo.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','vortex-l@eskimo.com');
 
 Sent: Sun, May 11, 2014 9:18 pm
 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

  Stewart,

  I have glanced at your web site.  I have not taken a close look at your
 research, but I would not be surprised if you ended up being onto something
 about doppler radar being a source of hypoxia, oxygen free radicals and the
 death of nearby animal and plant life.  You also have a theory of dark
 matter, and a hunch that dark matter is indirectly responsible for the
 conclusions concerning doppler radar that you arrive at in your informal
 research.

  On the connection to dark matter, I personally have no opinion.  I am
 skeptical, however, that your research is sufficient to establish any kind
 of linkage between the effects of doppler radar and dark matter, however.
  In light of this doubt, I think you might be able to get your
 investigation into doppler radar out to a wider audience if you did not
 combine it with the question of dark matter.  Adding dark matter into the
 mix asks too much of people in their suspension of disbelief for them to be
 able to give much credibility to your doppler radar hunch, even if both
 hunches ended up being true.

  Eric



 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 5:55 PM, ChemE Stewart 
 cheme...@gmail.comjavascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','cheme...@gmail.com');
  wrote:

  Radar/Call SignMHTModel ASR-9Max Pulsed Power (Watts)1,300,000Gain (dBi)
 34Frequency (MHz)2,800RPM12.5Max Power Density (W/m2) @ 10 km 10.39Pulse
 Duration(uSec)1.00Pulse Repition Factor (Hz)1,000Range Est. (Miles)60
 Latitude42.937248 Longitude-71.437286FIPS33011CountyHillsboroughStateNH

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

David,

To say it in another way, you can average the power in Mike Tyson's punch
over one minute and say that it is low average power when in fact it
knocked you on your ass in a fraction of a second.  That is the error in
judgement I believe the radar physorcists have made and we are all paying
dearly for.  Think of mama and the baby on a hillside deck getting swept by
those pulses 5 or 6 times a minute and you will understand what I mean.
 What if time did not exist like Einstein and others have claimed and you
could not average that pulse over time??? What would you do then?


These are the NEXRAD WSR-88 Standard Doppler Weather Radar Specs (there
are ~150 of these in service in the US). Due to the higher gain they have
more power density @ 10 km than an ASR-9 radar.

Radar/Call SignFFCModelWSR-88DMax Pulsed Power (Watts)100Gain
(dBi)45.5Frequency
(MHz)2,850.0RPM6.0Max Power Density (W/m2) @ 10 km112.9Pulse Duration(uSec)
1.6Pulse Repition Factor (Hz)800Range Est. (Miles)143Latitude33.36358856
Longitude-84.56607328FIPS13113CountyFayetteStateGAComments/SourceUpgraded
to Dual Pol in 2010-2012


These are the Airport TDWR Standard Doppler Weather Radar Specs (There
are ~ 50 of these in service)

TDWR 5615 MHzModelTDWRMax Pulsed Power (Watts)250,000Gain (dBi)50Frequency
(MHz)5,575RPM5Max Power Density (W/m2) @ 10 km79.58Pulse Duration(uSec)1.1Pulse
Repition Factor (Hz)2000Range Est. (Miles)56Latitude33.64659872Longitude
-84.26191362FIPS13151CountyHenryStateGA









On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 11:01 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:

 The specifications for the radar system below are typical of a pulsed
 radar system and not what I would expect from a standard Doppler radar.
 The duty cycle appears to be .1% for the unit listed whereas a Doppler
 radar is CW.  The average power is 1300 watts of RF into the antenna, I
 assume.  The gain of the antenna may be 34 dB relative to an isotropic
 radiator.

 Someone might be thinking of a pulsed Doppler radar which measures the
 change in transmit frequency of the returning pulses to get target velocity
 information.  That type of radar is not a standard Doppler.

 Dave



  -Original Message-
 From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com
 To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Sent: Sun, May 11, 2014 9:18 pm
 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

  Stewart,

  I have glanced at your web site.  I have not taken a close look at your
 research, but I would not be surprised if you ended up being onto something
 about doppler radar being a source of hypoxia, oxygen free radicals and the
 death of nearby animal and plant life.  You also have a theory of dark
 matter, and a hunch that dark matter is indirectly responsible for the
 conclusions concerning doppler radar that you arrive at in your informal
 research.

  On the connection to dark matter, I personally have no opinion.  I am
 skeptical, however, that your research is sufficient to establish any kind
 of linkage between the effects of doppler radar and dark matter, however.
  In light of this doubt, I think you might be able to get your
 investigation into doppler radar out to a wider audience if you did not
 combine it with the question of dark matter.  Adding dark matter into the
 mix asks too much of people in their suspension of disbelief for them to be
 able to give much credibility to your doppler radar hunch, even if both
 hunches ended up being true.

  Eric



 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 5:55 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:

  Radar/Call SignMHTModel ASR-9Max Pulsed Power (Watts)1,300,000Gain (dBi)
 34Frequency (MHz)2,800RPM12.5Max Power Density (W/m2) @ 10 km 10.39Pulse
 Duration(uSec)1.00Pulse Repition Factor (Hz)1,000Range Est. (Miles)60
 Latitude42.937248 Longitude-71.437286FIPS33011CountyHillsboroughStateNH

RE: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

2014-05-12 Thread Jones Beene

From: ChemE Stewart 

…The instantaneous pulses are  1,000,000 watts but they are
only on for 1/1000 of each second.  Does nature average that high power
pulse over 1 second like you are doing?  And if it does, how does nature do
that?  

Yes, this is the counter argument to wireless transmission of substantial
energy. For there to be substantial gain, there must exist something like a
superluminal component to the wave.

Curiously in 2011, Steve Jackson held a presentation and demonstration of a
scalar wave transmitter and receiver at a local IEEE meeting at McMaster
University in Ontario. This is where the Zimmerman invention was conceived,
but they could be talking about different things. 

Here is the URL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=SxZKqhDQujk

Jackson demonstrated a small electric fan attached to a scalar wave receiver
powered by a transmitter over twenty feet away. No glaring anomaly there but
the Zimmerman receiver is different, more like Tesla’s, and the Manelas
receiver is far different and more like Zimmerman’s.


attachment: winmail.dat

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

David,

This is what I have in mind.

http://darkmattersalot.com/2014/03/25/do-as-the-romans-do-did-done/

You will notice that the Autism cluster in the LA area is the high rent
district on the elevated hillsides. I believe they are getting swept by
more direct microwave radiation.  Every cluster from the UC Davis Study has
multiple microwave weather, FAA and/or military radars in the area.  Many
of the clusters are either on hillsides or surrounded by mountains that
REFLECT microwaves.

Stewart




On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 9:50 AM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:

 David,

 To say it in another way, you can average the power in Mike Tyson's punch
 over one minute and say that it is low average power when in fact it
 knocked you on your ass in a fraction of a second.  That is the error in
 judgement I believe the radar physorcists have made and we are all paying
 dearly for.  Think of mama and the baby on a hillside deck getting swept by
 those pulses 5 or 6 times a minute and you will understand what I mean.
  What if time did not exist like Einstein and others have claimed and you
 could not average that pulse over time??? What would you do then?


 These are the NEXRAD WSR-88 Standard Doppler Weather Radar Specs (there
 are ~150 of these in service in the US). Due to the higher gain they have
 more power density @ 10 km than an ASR-9 radar.

 Radar/Call SignFFC ModelWSR-88DMax Pulsed Power (Watts)100Gain (dBi)
 45.5Frequency (MHz)2,850.0RPM6.0Max Power Density (W/m2) @ 10 km 112.9Pulse
 Duration(uSec)1.6Pulse Repition Factor (Hz)800Range Est. (Miles)143
 Latitude33.36358856 Longitude-84.56607328FIPS13113CountyFayetteStateGA
 Comments/SourceUpgraded to Dual Pol in 2010-2012


 These are the Airport TDWR Standard Doppler Weather Radar Specs (There
 are ~ 50 of these in service)

 TDWR 5615 MHzModelTDWRMax Pulsed Power (Watts)250,000Gain (dBi)50Frequency
 (MHz)5,575 RPM5Max Power Density (W/m2) @ 10 km79.58Pulse Duration(uSec)
 1.1Pulse Repition Factor (Hz)2000Range Est. (Miles) 56Latitude33.64659872
 Longitude-84.26191362FIPS13151CountyHenryStateGA









 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 11:01 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.comwrote:

 The specifications for the radar system below are typical of a pulsed
 radar system and not what I would expect from a standard Doppler radar.
 The duty cycle appears to be .1% for the unit listed whereas a Doppler
 radar is CW.  The average power is 1300 watts of RF into the antenna, I
 assume.  The gain of the antenna may be 34 dB relative to an isotropic
 radiator.

 Someone might be thinking of a pulsed Doppler radar which measures the
 change in transmit frequency of the returning pulses to get target velocity
 information.  That type of radar is not a standard Doppler.

 Dave



  -Original Message-
 From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com
 To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Sent: Sun, May 11, 2014 9:18 pm
 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

  Stewart,

  I have glanced at your web site.  I have not taken a close look at your
 research, but I would not be surprised if you ended up being onto something
 about doppler radar being a source of hypoxia, oxygen free radicals and the
 death of nearby animal and plant life.  You also have a theory of dark
 matter, and a hunch that dark matter is indirectly responsible for the
 conclusions concerning doppler radar that you arrive at in your informal
 research.

  On the connection to dark matter, I personally have no opinion.  I am
 skeptical, however, that your research is sufficient to establish any kind
 of linkage between the effects of doppler radar and dark matter, however.
  In light of this doubt, I think you might be able to get your
 investigation into doppler radar out to a wider audience if you did not
 combine it with the question of dark matter.  Adding dark matter into the
 mix asks too much of people in their suspension of disbelief for them to be
 able to give much credibility to your doppler radar hunch, even if both
 hunches ended up being true.

  Eric



 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 5:55 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.comwrote:

  Radar/Call SignMHTModel ASR-9Max Pulsed Power (Watts)1,300,000Gain
 (dBi)34Frequency (MHz)2,800RPM12.5Max Power Density (W/m2) @ 10 km 
 10.39Pulse
 Duration(uSec)1.00Pulse Repition Factor (Hz)1,000Range Est. (Miles)60
 Latitude42.937248 Longitude-71.437286FIPS33011CountyHillsboroughStateNH

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

Radar systems detect the target based upon the average power incident upon it.  
This is due to the continuous behavior of noise which tends to mask the signal. 
 Heating of the target becomes averaged out during the complete period of the 
base pulse which in this case is about 1 milisecond.

Of course, the reflected wave must be generated by instantaneous currents on 
the target surface as you suggest.  If the problem you are analyzing occurs 
during the 1 microsecond time frame then it is quite possible for it to be 
demonstrated.  The skin effect also comes into consideration at the high RF 
frequencies which tends to reduce penetration of the signal into the target.  
Better conductivity of the material decreases the dept rapidly.

A true Doppler radar would have the full heating effect due to the RF maximum 
power level as long as the antenna pattern illuminates the target you are 
considering.  Also, the pulsed radar pattern of the radar mentioned impacts 
upon your desired target for a small portion of the dish rotation time.   The 
average target heating must be adjusted accordingly.

I do not understand the nature of the damage that you are considering with your 
research.  If it is associated with the average heating as with a microwave 
oven then the pulse duty cycle, etc. needs to be integrated into the equations. 
 My comments earlier were directed toward clarifying the difference between a 
true Doppler radar and a more of less standard pulsed system.

Dave

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 7:17 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio


David,  the ASR-9 is an airport survellience radar.  That is correct about the 
gain,  weather/military doppler radar gains are 45-50 dbi, more focused dishes. 
 The instantaneous pulses are  1,000,000 watts but they are only on for 1/1000 
of each second.  Does nature average that high power pulse over 1 second like 
you are doing?  And if it does, how does nature do that?  Does it induce 
instantaneous electrical currents?  Nature operates at the speed of light, 
right?  A lot goes on in nature in 1/1000 of a second that we don't even see.




On Sunday, May 11, 2014, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:

The specifications for the radar system below are typical of a pulsed radar 
system and not what I would expect from a standard Doppler radar.   The duty 
cycle appears to be .1% for the unit listed whereas a Doppler radar is CW.  The 
average power is 1300 watts of RF into the antenna, I assume.  The gain of the 
antenna may be 34 dB relative to an isotropic radiator.

Someone might be thinking of a pulsed Doppler radar which measures the change 
in transmit frequency of the returning pulses to get target velocity 
information.  That type of radar is not a standard Doppler.

Dave

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, May 11, 2014 9:18 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio


Stewart,


I have glanced at your web site.  I have not taken a close look at your 
research, but I would not be surprised if you ended up being onto something 
about doppler radar being a source of hypoxia, oxygen free radicals and the 
death of nearby animal and plant life.  You also have a theory of dark matter, 
and a hunch that dark matter is indirectly responsible for the conclusions 
concerning doppler radar that you arrive at in your informal research.


On the connection to dark matter, I personally have no opinion.  I am 
skeptical, however, that your research is sufficient to establish any kind of 
linkage between the effects of doppler radar and dark matter, however.  In 
light of this doubt, I think you might be able to get your investigation into 
doppler radar out to a wider audience if you did not combine it with the 
question of dark matter.  Adding dark matter into the mix asks too much of 
people in their suspension of disbelief for them to be able to give much 
credibility to your doppler radar hunch, even if both hunches ended up being 
true.


Eric





On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 5:55 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:



Radar/Call Sign
MHT

Model
ASR-9

Max Pulsed Power (Watts)
1,300,000

Gain (dBi)
34

Frequency (MHz)
2,800

RPM
12.5

Max Power Density (W/m2) @ 10 km
10.39

Pulse Duration(uSec)
1.00

Pulse Repition Factor (Hz)
1,000

Range Est. (Miles)
60

Latitude
42.937248

Longitude
-71.437286

FIPS
33011

County
Hillsborough

State
NH

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

 directed toward clarifying the
 difference between a true Doppler radar and a more of less standard pulsed
 system.

 Dave



  -Original Message-
 From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
 To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 7:17 am
 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

  David,  the ASR-9 is an airport survellience radar.  That is correct
 about the gain,  weather/military doppler radar gains are 45-50 dbi, more
 focused dishes.  The instantaneous pulses are  1,000,000 watts but they
 are only on for 1/1000 of each second.  Does nature average that high power
 pulse over 1 second like you are doing?  And if it does, how does nature do
 that?  Does it induce instantaneous electrical currents?  Nature operates
 at the speed of light, right?  A lot goes on in nature in 1/1000 of a
 second that we don't even see.



 On Sunday, May 11, 2014, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:

 The specifications for the radar system below are typical of a pulsed
 radar system and not what I would expect from a standard Doppler radar.
 The duty cycle appears to be .1% for the unit listed whereas a Doppler
 radar is CW.  The average power is 1300 watts of RF into the antenna, I
 assume.  The gain of the antenna may be 34 dB relative to an isotropic
 radiator.

 Someone might be thinking of a pulsed Doppler radar which measures the
 change in transmit frequency of the returning pulses to get target velocity
 information.  That type of radar is not a standard Doppler.

 Dave



  -Original Message-
 From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com
 To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Sent: Sun, May 11, 2014 9:18 pm
 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

  Stewart,

  I have glanced at your web site.  I have not taken a close look at your
 research, but I would not be surprised if you ended up being onto something
 about doppler radar being a source of hypoxia, oxygen free radicals and the
 death of nearby animal and plant life.  You also have a theory of dark
 matter, and a hunch that dark matter is indirectly responsible for the
 conclusions concerning doppler radar that you arrive at in your informal
 research.

  On the connection to dark matter, I personally have no opinion.  I am
 skeptical, however, that your research is sufficient to establish any kind
 of linkage between the effects of doppler radar and dark matter, however.
  In light of this doubt, I think you might be able to get your
 investigation into doppler radar out to a wider audience if you did not
 combine it with the question of dark matter.  Adding dark matter into the
 mix asks too much of people in their suspension of disbelief for them to be
 able to give much credibility to your doppler radar hunch, even if both
 hunches ended up being true.

  Eric



 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 5:55 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.comwrote:

  Radar/Call SignMHTModel ASR-9Max Pulsed Power (Watts)1,300,000Gain
 (dBi)34Frequency (MHz)2,800RPM12.5Max Power Density (W/m2) @ 10 km 
 10.39Pulse
 Duration(uSec)1.00Pulse Repition Factor (Hz)1,000Range Est. (Miles)60
 Latitude42.937248 Longitude-71.437286FIPS33011CountyHillsboroughStateNH

RE: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

2014-05-12 Thread Hoyt A. Stearns Jr.

Thanks, interesting data -- however --



I'm an electrical engineer and have worked in this field for 50 years, 
sometimes around high power RF sources from kHz to GHz and I can still speak ( 
much to dismay

of some :-) ). Furthermore, I have a few acquaintances who have worked around 
microwave systems, in fact some said they used to stand in front of

radar transmitter antennas to get warm in the winter, and they seem ok, but I 
have no real data to back up their health now.

I don't carry a cell phone often, though.  I'd guess that if you ingest enough 
anti-oxidants and singlet oxygen quenchers, you'd be ok.





Hoyt Stearns

Scottsdale, Arizona US



From: ChemE Stewart [mailto:cheme...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 8:17 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio



David,



It is not heating.  It is the electromagnetic discharge of the instantaneous 
pulses of microwave radiation.



Cell towers are typically 20,000 to 50,000 watts.  Read this letter



http://www.ntia.doc.gov/files/ntia/us_doi_comments.pdf



Radiation Impacts and Categorical Exclusions

There is a growing level of anecdotal evidence linking effects of non-thermal, 
non-ionizing electromagnetic radiation from communication towers on nesting and 
roosting wild birds and other wildlife in the U.S. Independent, third-party 
studies have yet to be conducted in the U.S. or Canada, although a 
peer-reviewed research protocol developed for the U.S. Forest Service by the 
Service's Division of Migratory Bird Management is available to study both 
collision and radiation impacts (Manville 2002). As previously mentioned, 
Balmori (2005) found strong negative correlations between levels of 
tower-emitted microwave radiation and bird breeding, nesting, and roosting in 
the vicinity of electromagnetic fields in Spain. He documented nest and site 
abandonment, plumage deterioration, locomotion problems, reduced survivorship, 
and death in House Sparrows, White Storks, Rock Doves, Magpies, Collared Doves, 
and other species. Though these species had historically been documented to 
roost and nest in these areas, Balmori (2005) did not observe these symptoms 
prior to construction and operation of the cellular phone towers. Balmori and 
Hallberg (2007) and Everaert and Bauwens (2007) found similar strong negative 
correlations among male House Sparrows. Under laboratory 'conditions, DiCarlo 
et al. (2002) raised troubling concerns about impacts of low-level, non-thermal 
electromagnetic radiation from the standard 915 MHz cell phone frequency on 
domestic chicken embryos- with some lethal results (Manville 2009). Given the 
findings of the studies mentioned above, field studies should be conducted in 
North America to validate potential impacts of communication tower radiation 
both direct and indirect - to migratory birds and other trust wildlife species.





 50-100 times the normal incidence of motor-neuron/ALS around the Guam radar 
station





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Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

Much depends upon how your mechanism causes the harm.  If heat is the problem, 
then the average power is important.  Microwave cooking depends upon heating to 
prepare the meal.  The instantaneous peak power might be able to ignite a fast 
acting explosive material or cause a bulb to ionize, but the average energy is 
what is detected by the radar receiving system.

When you perform your analysis of the damage due to radar transmitters, are you 
able to determine how well centered the effect is about the device?  Another 
consideration is that the antenna pattern is generally directed above the 
ground level for a large distance.   Many folks have expressed deep concern for 
the effects of cellular radio towers due to misunderstandings about radio power 
levels.  It is generally easy to worry about issues that involves black magic 
when dealing with the public since people tend to seek simple explanations to 
their perceived problems especially when random events seem to defy 
understanding.

ChemE, I have no idea about how well you have performed your analysis of the 
radar environmental damages that you are following.  I assume that you have 
also included research which would prove that the lack of a tower always shows 
none of the degradation expected due to RF.  What is the signal to noise level 
that you are working with?  Are you confident that  you could take a random 
sample of sites, some with radars and some without, and pick the active ones 
every time?

Dave

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 9:50 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio


David,


To say it in another way, you can average the power in Mike Tyson's punch over 
one minute and say that it is low average power when in fact it knocked you on 
your ass in a fraction of a second.  That is the error in judgement I believe 
the radar physorcists have made and we are all paying dearly for.  Think of 
mama and the baby on a hillside deck getting swept by those pulses 5 or 6 times 
a minute and you will understand what I mean.  What if time did not exist like 
Einstein and others have claimed and you could not average that pulse over 
time??? What would you do then?




These are the NEXRAD WSR-88 Standard Doppler Weather Radar Specs (there are 
~150 of these in service in the US). Due to the higher gain they have more 
power density @ 10 km than an ASR-9 radar.





Radar/Call Sign
FFC

Model
WSR-88D

Max Pulsed Power (Watts)
100

Gain (dBi)
45.5

Frequency (MHz)
2,850.0

RPM
6.0

Max Power Density (W/m2) @ 10 km
112.9

Pulse Duration(uSec)
1.6

Pulse Repition Factor (Hz)
800

Range Est. (Miles)
143

Latitude
33.36358856

Longitude
-84.56607328

FIPS
13113

County
Fayette

State
GA

Comments/Source
Upgraded to Dual Pol in 2010-2012






These are the Airport TDWR Standard Doppler Weather Radar Specs (There are ~ 
50 of these in service)




TDWR 5615 MHz

Model
TDWR

Max Pulsed Power (Watts)
250,000

Gain (dBi)
50

Frequency (MHz)
5,575

RPM
5

Max Power Density (W/m2) @ 10 km
79.58

Pulse Duration(uSec)
1.1

Pulse Repition Factor (Hz)
2000

Range Est. (Miles)
56

Latitude
33.64659872

Longitude
-84.26191362

FIPS
13151

County
Henry

State
GA



















On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 11:01 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:

The specifications for the radar system below are typical of a pulsed radar 
system and not what I would expect from a standard Doppler radar.   The duty 
cycle appears to be .1% for the unit listed whereas a Doppler radar is CW.  The 
average power is 1300 watts of RF into the antenna, I assume.  The gain of the 
antenna may be 34 dB relative to an isotropic radiator.

Someone might be thinking of a pulsed Doppler radar which measures the change 
in transmit frequency of the returning pulses to get target velocity 
information.  That type of radar is not a standard Doppler.

Dave


 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, May 11, 2014 9:18 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio


Stewart,


I have glanced at your web site.  I have not taken a close look at your 
research, but I would not be surprised if you ended up being onto something 
about doppler radar being a source of hypoxia, oxygen free radicals and the 
death of nearby animal and plant life.  You also have a theory of dark matter, 
and a hunch that dark matter is indirectly responsible for the conclusions 
concerning doppler radar that you arrive at in your informal research.


On the connection to dark matter, I personally have no opinion.  I am 
skeptical, however, that your research is sufficient to establish any kind of 
linkage between the effects of doppler radar and dark matter, however.  In 
light of this doubt, I think you might be able to get your investigation into 
doppler radar out to a wider audience if you did not combine

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

ChemE,

You need to research these systems.  Each transmitter is far lower than the 
powers you list and they are not correlated in time or frequency.   From what I 
recall the dangers associated with this type of radiation has never been shown 
to be significant.


Dave

 

 

-Original Message-
From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 11:17 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio


David,


It is not heating.  It is the electromagnetic discharge of the instantaneous 
pulses of microwave radiation. 


Cell towers are typically 20,000 to 50,000 watts.  Read this letter


http://www.ntia.doc.gov/files/ntia/us_doi_comments.pdf




Radiation Impacts and Categorical Exclusions

There is a growing level of anecdotal evidence linking effects of non-thermal, 
non-ionizing electromagnetic radiation from communication towers on nesting and 
roosting wild birds and other wildlife in the U.S. Independent, third-party 
studies have yet to be conducted in the U.S. or Canada, although a 
peer-reviewed research protocol developed for the U.S. Forest Service by the 
Service's Division of Migratory Bird Management is available to study both 
collision and radiation impacts (Manville 2002). As previously mentioned, 
Balmori (2005) found strong negative correlations between levels of 
tower-emitted microwave radiation and bird breeding, nesting, and roosting in 
the vicinity of electromagnetic fields in Spain. He documented nest and site 
abandonment, plumage deterioration, locomotion problems, reduced survivorship, 
and death in House Sparrows, White Storks, Rock Doves, Magpies, Collared Doves, 
and other species. Though these species had historically been documented to 
roost and nest in these areas, Balmori (2005) did not observe these symptoms 
prior to construction and operation of the cellular phone towers. Balmori and 
Hallberg (2007) and Everaert and Bauwens (2007) found similar strong negative 
correlations among male House Sparrows. Under laboratory 'conditions, DiCarlo 
et al. (2002) raised troubling concerns about impacts of low-level, non-thermal 
electromagnetic radiation from the standard 915 MHz cell phone frequency on 
domestic chicken embryos- with some lethal results (Manville 2009). Given the 
findings of the studies mentioned above, field studies should be conducted in 
North America to validate potential impacts of communication tower radiation 
both direct and indirect - to migratory birds and other trust wildlife species.





 50-100 times the normal incidence of motor-neuron/ALS around the Guam radar 
station



http://darkmattersalot.com/2014/04/04/guilefulguamguano/


The motor neuron diseases (MNDs) are a group of progressive neurological 
disorders that destroy motor neurons, the cells that control essential 
voluntary muscle activity such as speaking, walking, breathing, and swallowing. 
 Normally, messages from nerve cells in the brain (called upper motor neurons) 
are transmitted to nerve cells in the brain stem and spinal cord (called lower 
motor neurons) and from them to particular muscles.  Upper motor neurons direct 
the lower motor neurons to produce movements such as walking or chewing.  Lower 
motor neurons control movement in the arms, legs, chest, face, throat, and 
tongue.  Spinal motor neurons are also called anterior horn cells.  Upper motor 
neurons are also called corticospinal neurons.
When there are disruptions in the signals between the lowest motor neurons and 
the muscle, the muscles do not work properly; the muscles gradually weaken and 
may begin wasting away and develop uncontrollable twitching 
(calledfasciculations).  When there are disruptions in the signals between the 
upper motor neurons and the lower motor neurons, the limb muscles develop 
stiffness (called spasticity), movements become slow and effortful, and tendon 
reflexes such as knee and ankle jerks become overactive.  Over time, the 
ability to control voluntary movement can be lost.












On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 10:57 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:

Radar systems detect the target based upon the average power incident upon it.  
This is due to the continuous behavior of noise which tends to mask the signal. 
 Heating of the target becomes averaged out during the complete period of the 
base pulse which in this case is about 1 milisecond.

Of course, the reflected wave must be generated by instantaneous currents on 
the target surface as you suggest.  If the problem you are analyzing occurs 
during the 1 microsecond time frame then it is quite possible for it to be 
demonstrated.  The skin effect also comes into consideration at the high RF 
frequencies which tends to reduce penetration of the signal into the target.  
Better conductivity of the material decreases the dept rapidly.

A true Doppler radar would have the full heating effect due to the RF maximum 
power level as long as the antenna pattern illuminates

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

2014-05-12 Thread H Veeder

It is time to get beyond heating as the only way for brain damage to occur.
If the brain functions like an electrical communication network, then it is
possible to disrupt the network by means that don't require heating.

Harry


On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:44 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:

 Much depends upon how your mechanism causes the harm.  If heat is the
 problem, then the average power is important.  Microwave cooking depends
 upon heating to prepare the meal.  The instantaneous peak power might be
 able to ignite a fast acting explosive material or cause a bulb to ionize,
 but the average energy is what is detected by the radar receiving system.

 When you perform your analysis of the damage due to radar transmitters,
 are you able to determine how well centered the effect is about the
 device?  Another consideration is that the antenna pattern is generally
 directed above the ground level for a large distance.   Many folks have
 expressed deep concern for the effects of cellular radio towers due to
 misunderstandings about radio power levels.  It is generally easy to worry
 about issues that involves black magic when dealing with the public since
 people tend to seek simple explanations to their perceived problems
 especially when random events seem to defy understanding.

 ChemE, I have no idea about how well you have performed your analysis of
 the radar environmental damages that you are following.  I assume that you
 have also included research which would prove that the lack of a tower
 always shows none of the degradation expected due to RF.  What is the
 signal to noise level that you are working with?  Are you confident that
 you could take a random sample of sites, some with radars and some without,
 and pick the active ones every time?

 Dave



  -Original Message-
 From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
 To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 9:50 am
 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

  David,

  To say it in another way, you can average the power in Mike Tyson's
 punch over one minute and say that it is low average power when in fact it
 knocked you on your ass in a fraction of a second.  That is the error in
 judgement I believe the radar physorcists have made and we are all paying
 dearly for.  Think of mama and the baby on a hillside deck getting swept by
 those pulses 5 or 6 times a minute and you will understand what I mean.
  What if time did not exist like Einstein and others have claimed and you
 could not average that pulse over time??? What would you do then?


  These are the NEXRAD WSR-88 Standard Doppler Weather Radar Specs
 (there are ~150 of these in service in the US). Due to the higher gain they
 have more power density @ 10 km than an ASR-9 radar.

  Radar/Call SignFFC ModelWSR-88DMax Pulsed Power (Watts)100Gain (dBi)
 45.5Frequency (MHz)2,850.0RPM6.0Max Power Density (W/m2) @ 10 km 112.9Pulse
 Duration(uSec)1.6Pulse Repition Factor (Hz)800Range Est. (Miles)143
 Latitude33.36358856 Longitude-84.56607328FIPS13113CountyFayetteStateGA
 Comments/SourceUpgraded to Dual Pol in 2010-2012


  These are the Airport TDWR Standard Doppler Weather Radar Specs (There
 are ~ 50 of these in service)

  TDWR 5615 MHzModelTDWRMax Pulsed Power (Watts)250,000Gain (dBi)50Frequency
 (MHz)5,575 RPM5Max Power Density (W/m2) @ 10 km79.58Pulse Duration(uSec)
 1.1Pulse Repition Factor (Hz)2000Range Est. (Miles) 56Latitude33.64659872
 Longitude-84.26191362FIPS13151CountyHenryStateGA









 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 11:01 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.comwrote:

 The specifications for the radar system below are typical of a pulsed
 radar system and not what I would expect from a standard Doppler radar.
 The duty cycle appears to be .1% for the unit listed whereas a Doppler
 radar is CW.  The average power is 1300 watts of RF into the antenna, I
 assume.  The gain of the antenna may be 34 dB relative to an isotropic
 radiator.

 Someone might be thinking of a pulsed Doppler radar which measures the
 change in transmit frequency of the returning pulses to get target velocity
 information.  That type of radar is not a standard Doppler.

 Dave



  -Original Message-
 From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com
 To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Sent: Sun, May 11, 2014 9:18 pm
 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

  Stewart,

  I have glanced at your web site.  I have not taken a close look at your
 research, but I would not be surprised if you ended up being onto something
 about doppler radar being a source of hypoxia, oxygen free radicals and the
 death of nearby animal and plant life.  You also have a theory of dark
 matter, and a hunch that dark matter is indirectly responsible for the
 conclusions concerning doppler radar that you arrive at in your informal
 research.

  On the connection to dark matter, I personally have no opinion.  I am
 skeptical, however, that your research is sufficient to establish any kind

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

2014-05-12 Thread Bob Cook

Dave--

One possible effect is the resonant absorbtion of radiation by biologically 
active molecules, which cause ionization and destruction of the molecules.  
This is particularly damaging when the molecule is a DNA or RNA molecule.  Weak 
H bonds occur in these molecules and such destruction leads to modified DNA or 
RNA activity.  The average heating idea also is appropriate, however it is not 
as much as a problem as the destruction or disabling of the large molecules 
that control the body's production of other complex molecules.  DNA in skin and 
eye cells would be more susceptible than those more deeply situated in the 
body.   Reproductive organs near the surface of the body are more venerable to 
such radiation and hence to genetic changes that are passed on to offspring.  
Such a problem applies to humans as well a smaller animals and birds that have 
the least amount of shielding of their gonads.

The other issue associated with DNA destruction could be  the stimulated 
emission of tritium by the exposure to the intense radiation of the radars.  
Tritium is a bad actor when it decays in a nucleus of a cell.  The beta from 
the tritium is about 18 Kev.  This energy is deposited over a path of about 6 
microns.  The average dimension of a cell nucleus is about 6 to 10 microns.  
This means a large fraction of the beta from tritium decay is deposited in the 
nucleus where it is bound to cause numerous double breaks of DNA molecules and 
the genetic damage that goes along with these breaks.  Such mutagenic effects 
were observed in the vole population around Chernobyl after the nuclear 
accident as a result of tritium contamination in the drinking water consumed by 
the vole population.  

(Considering the damage to gene cells of the body, the EPA drinking water 
standard for tritium, 20,000 pico curies per liter, is way to high (about 100 
times) to prevent unreasonable damage to gene cells.  Small breeding 
populations of animals, including some populations of humans, can be 
unreasonably affected by such high bodily tritium concentrations as allowed by 
the current standards.  The justification by the EPA and the ICRP that any 
defects in the genetics passed on to the society get greatly diluted to reduce 
risk, does not apply to small breeding populations.  And of course, if you are 
one in a million of the people at risk that develop a health problem  that is 
non-mutagenic , it does not help you at all.)  

 I am one to believe that there should be no risk to vertebrates, except birds, 
existing around hazards that causes more than one health effect of the 
population subjected to the hazard.  Important insects such as bees should be 
included in this no risk  criteria.   

Bob



  - Original Message - 
  From: David Roberson 
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 7:57 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio


  Radar systems detect the target based upon the average power incident upon 
it.  This is due to the continuous behavior of noise which tends to mask the 
signal.  Heating of the target becomes averaged out during the complete period 
of the base pulse which in this case is about 1 milisecond.

  Of course, the reflected wave must be generated by instantaneous currents on 
the target surface as you suggest.  If the problem you are analyzing occurs 
during the 1 microsecond time frame then it is quite possible for it to be 
demonstrated.  The skin effect also comes into consideration at the high RF 
frequencies which tends to reduce penetration of the signal into the target.  
Better conductivity of the material decreases the dept rapidly.

  A true Doppler radar would have the full heating effect due to the RF maximum 
power level as long as the antenna pattern illuminates the target you are 
considering.  Also, the pulsed radar pattern of the radar mentioned impacts 
upon your desired target for a small portion of the dish rotation time.   The 
average target heating must be adjusted accordingly.

  I do not understand the nature of the damage that you are considering with 
your research.  If it is associated with the average heating as with a 
microwave oven then the pulse duty cycle, etc. needs to be integrated into the 
equations.  My comments earlier were directed toward clarifying the difference 
between a true Doppler radar and a more of less standard pulsed system.

  Dave







  -Original Message-
  From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
  To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
  Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 7:17 am
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio


  David,  the ASR-9 is an airport survellience radar.  That is correct about 
the gain,  weather/military doppler radar gains are 45-50 dbi, more focused 
dishes.  The instantaneous pulses are  1,000,000 watts but they are only on 
for 1/1000 of each second.  Does nature average that high power pulse over 1 
second like you are doing?  And if it does, how does nature do

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

David,

I have been researching these radars for approx. 1 year and diseased
biology for 1 1/2 years.

When you converted that instantaneous high power pulse to a one second
average you are basically confusing power with energy, which is WRONG. If
it was correct then why not operate your radar continuously at an average
power of 1500 watts? BECAUSE THEY WON'T work.

As far as I can tell you have done very little research. If you really
want to do some and not just talk like a radio guy, I suggest you read the
following and the referenced research papers, many peer reviewed.

This:
http://www.scopemed.org/?jft=65ft=65-1394615302#abstract

And This:
http://darkmattersalot.com/2014/05/03/power-to-the-people/

http://darkmattersalot.com/2014/04/13/autism-emf/

And this:
http://darkmattersalot.com/2014/03/13/its-the-same-frequency-range-why-would-you-expect-the-results-to-be-different/

And this:
http://darkmattersalot.com/2014/01/12/florida-2/

And this:
http://sdsimonson.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/11-4-13-florida1.png

And this:
http://sdsimonson.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/fish-kills-statistics.png

And this:
http://darkmattersalot.com/2014/03/05/quick-everybody-rush-to-florida/

And This:
http://darkmattersalot.com/2014/04/24/a-shocking-discovery/

And also look at the 300 hundred or so epidemiology maps I have placed on
my blog and the 900 posts over the past two years and then get back to me
OK??

I am just wondering why 1/68 kids in the US now have autism, 50 million
people in the US now have an auto-immune disease and all of our f^%ing
wildlife is suffering AND NOBODY SEEMS TO KNOW WHY

Oh, and read this and get back to me in a month, once you have actually
done some of your own research, OK?
[image: Doppler Radar]

On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 12:13 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:

ChemE,

You need to research these systems. Each transmitter is far lower than
the powers you list and they are not correlated in time or frequency.
From what I recall the dangers associated with this type of radiation has
never been shown to be significant.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 11:17 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

David,

It is not heating. It is the electromagnetic discharge of the
instantaneous pulses of microwave radiation.

Cell towers are typically 20,000 to 50,000 watts. Read this letter

http://www.ntia.doc.gov/files/ntia/us_doi_comments.pdf

Radiation Impacts and Categorical Exclusions

There is a growing level of anecdotal evidence linking effects of
non-thermal, non-ionizing electromagnetic radiation from communication
towers on nesting and roosting wild birds and other wildlife in the U.S.
Independent, third-party studies have yet to be conducted in the U.S. or
Canada,
although a peer-reviewed research protocol developed for the U.S. Forest
Service by the Service's Division of Migratory Bird Management is
available to study both collision and radiation impacts (Manville 2002). As
previously mentioned, Balmori (2005) found strong negative correlations
between levels of tower-emitted microwave radiation and bird breeding,
nesting, and roosting in the vicinity of electromagnetic fields in Spain.
He documented nest and site abandonment, plumage deterioration,
locomotion problems, reduced survivorship, and death in House Sparrows,
White Storks, Rock Doves, Magpies, Collared Doves, and other species.
Though these species had historically been documented to roost and nest
in these areas, Balmori (2005) did not observe these symptoms prior to
construction and operation of the cellular phone towers. Balmori and Hallberg
(2007) and Everaert and Bauwens (2007) found similar strong negative
correlations among male House Sparrows. Under laboratory 'conditions,
DiCarlo et al. (2002) raised troubling concerns about impacts of
low-level, non-thermal electromagnetic radiation from the standard 915
MHz cell phone frequency on domestic chicken embryos- with some lethal
results (Manville 2009). *Given the findings of the studies mentioned
above, field studies should be **conducted in North America to validate
potential impacts of communication tower radiation both direct and indirect
- to migratory birds and other trust wildlife species.*

50-100 times the normal incidence of motor-neuron/ALS around the Guam
radar station

http://darkmattersalot.com/2014/04/04/guilefulguamguano/
The motor neuron diseases (MNDs) are a group of progressive neurological
disorders that destroy motor neurons, the cells that control essential
voluntary muscle activity such as speaking, walking, breathing, and
swallowing. Normally, messages from nerve cells in the brain (called *upper
motor neurons*) are transmitted to nerve cells in the brain stem and
spinal cord (called *lower motor neurons*) and from them to particular
muscles. Upper motor

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

ChemE,

You can operate the radar at that power level in a continuous mode and it does 
work.  The pulse mode has several advantages since reception can take place 
during the time that the transmitter stands by and offers no interference.   
Check out the RADAR range equation and you will see that it is based upon 
average power and not peak.   This is because many pulses are averaged together 
from a target to allow the noise to be reduced.

Trust me, I know the difference between power and energy.  I have designed a 
number of transmitters in the past and been cooked by a few of them!  You are 
correct in assuming that I have not spent time researching the subject that you 
are most interested in and therefore I can not comment upon how you carried out 
the research to make your conclusions.  I just caution you to use the proper 
control techniques to ensure accuracy, especially when your observations appear 
to conflict with most others.

If you have an opportunity I would like to have one question answered so that I 
might become more interested in your research.  Can you clearly show that a 
random location can be analyzed by your technique and the correct decision made 
as to whether or not a transmitter is located there?   In other words, are 
there false positives or false negatives?  My plate if fairly full at the 
moment and I have to restrict the subjects that I can follow.   If you have 
followed proper controls and the effect remains well above the noise I will 
find time to study your ideas as it become available.

Dave 

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 1:43 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio


David,


I have been researching these radars for approx. 1 year and diseased biology 
for 1 1/2 years.


When you converted that instantaneous high power pulse to a one second average 
you are basically confusing power with energy, which is WRONG.  If it was 
correct then why not operate your radar continuously at an average power of 
1500 watts?  BECAUSE THEY WON'T work.


As far as I can tell you have done very little research.  If you really want to 
do some and not just talk like a radio guy, I suggest you read the following 
and the referenced research papers, many peer reviewed.


This:

http://www.scopemed.org/?jft=65ft=65-1394615302#abstract



And This:

http://darkmattersalot.com/2014/05/03/power-to-the-people/



http://darkmattersalot.com/2014/04/13/autism-emf/



And this:
http://darkmattersalot.com/2014/03/13/its-the-same-frequency-range-why-would-you-expect-the-results-to-be-different/




And this:
http://darkmattersalot.com/2014/01/12/florida-2/



And this:
http://sdsimonson.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/11-4-13-florida1.png



And this:
http://sdsimonson.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/fish-kills-statistics.png



And this:
http://darkmattersalot.com/2014/03/05/quick-everybody-rush-to-florida/



And This:
http://darkmattersalot.com/2014/04/24/a-shocking-discovery/


And also look at the 300 hundred or so epidemiology maps I have placed on my 
blog and the 900 posts over the past two years and then get back to me OK??


I am just wondering why 1/68 kids in the US now have autism, 50 million people 
in the US now have an auto-immune disease and all of our f^%ing wildlife is 
suffering AND NOBODY SEEMS TO KNOW WHY


Oh, and read this and get back to me in a month, once you have actually done 
some of your own research, OK?












On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 12:13 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:

ChemE,

You need to research these systems.  Each transmitter is far lower than the 
powers you list and they are not correlated in time or frequency.   From what I 
recall the dangers associated with this type of radiation has never been shown 
to be significant.


Dave

 

 


-Original Message-
From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com


Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 11:17 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio


David,


It is not heating.  It is the electromagnetic discharge of the instantaneous 
pulses of microwave radiation. 


Cell towers are typically 20,000 to 50,000 watts.  Read this letter


http://www.ntia.doc.gov/files/ntia/us_doi_comments.pdf




Radiation Impacts and Categorical Exclusions

There is a growing level of anecdotal evidence linking effects of non-thermal, 
non-ionizing electromagnetic radiation from communication towers on nesting and 
roosting wild birds and other wildlife in the U.S. Independent, third-party 
studies have yet to be conducted in the U.S. or Canada, although a 
peer-reviewed research protocol developed for the U.S. Forest Service by the 
Service's Division of Migratory Bird Management is available to study both 
collision and radiation impacts (Manville 2002). As previously mentioned, 
Balmori (2005) found strong negative correlations between levels of 
tower-emitted microwave

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

I agree,  I believe we are bioelectrochemical beings of frequency.

MS, which is another autoimmune disease, clustered on the Faroe Islands the
same time when the Allies installed military microwave radars.

http://darkmattersalot.com/2014/04/06/i-am-faroely-certain-its-the-microwave-radars/

Too many coincidences.


On Monday, May 12, 2014, H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com wrote:

 It is time to get beyond heating as the only way for brain damage to
 occur. If the brain functions like an electrical communication network,
 then it is possible to disrupt the network by means that don't require
 heating.

 Harry


 On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:44 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.comwrote:

 Much depends upon how your mechanism causes the harm.  If heat is the
 problem, then the average power is important.  Microwave cooking depends
 upon heating to prepare the meal.  The instantaneous peak power might be
 able to ignite a fast acting explosive material or cause a bulb to ionize,
 but the average energy is what is detected by the radar receiving system.

 When you perform your analysis of the damage due to radar transmitters,
 are you able to determine how well centered the effect is about the
 device?  Another consideration is that the antenna pattern is generally
 directed above the ground level for a large distance.   Many folks have
 expressed deep concern for the effects of cellular radio towers due to
 misunderstandings about radio power levels.  It is generally easy to worry
 about issues that involves black magic when dealing with the public since
 people tend to seek simple explanations to their perceived problems
 especially when random events seem to defy understanding.

 ChemE, I have no idea about how well you have performed your analysis of
 the radar environmental damages that you are following.  I assume that you
 have also included research which would prove that the lack of a tower
 always shows none of the degradation expected due to RF.  What is the
 signal to noise level that you are working with?  Are you confident that
 you could take a random sample of sites, some with radars and some without,
 and pick the active ones every time?

 Dave



  -Original Message-
 From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
 To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 9:50 am
 Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

  David,

  To say it in another way, you can average the power in Mike Tyson's
 punch over one minute and say that it is low average power when in fact it
 knocked you on your ass in a fraction of a second.  That is the error in
 judgement I believe the radar physorcists have made and we are all paying
 dearly for.  Think of mama and the baby on a hillside deck getting swept by
 those pulses 5 or 6 times a minute and you will understand what I mean.
  What if time did not exist like Einstein and others have claimed and you
 could not average that pulse over time??? What would you do then?


  These are the NEXRAD WSR-88 Standard Doppler Weather Radar Specs
 (there are ~150 of these in service in the US). Due to the higher gain they
 have more power density @ 10 km than an ASR-9 radar.

  Radar/Call SignFFC ModelWSR-88DMax Pulsed Power (Watts)100Gain (dBi)
 45.5Frequency (MHz)2,850.0RPM6.0 Max Power Density (W/m2) @ 10 km 112.9Pulse
 Duration(uSec)1.6Pulse Repition Factor (Hz)800Range Est. (Miles)143
 Latitude33.36358856 Longitude-84.56607328FIPS13113CountyFayetteStateGA
 Comments/SourceUpgraded to Dual Pol in 2010-2012


  These are the Airport TDWR Standard Doppler Weather Radar Specs (There
 are ~ 50 of these in service)

  TDWR 5615 MHzModelTDWRMax Pulsed Power (Watts)250,000Gain (dBi)50Frequency
 (MHz)5,575 RPM5Max Power Density (W/m2) @ 10 km79.58Pulse Duration(uSec)
 1.1

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

David,

You are wrong. The NEXRAD weather radar is designed based upon PEAK (Pt)
transmitted power, not average, else there would not be enough return
signal strength to detect. Peak is 750,000 watts to 1,000,000

http://www.wdtb.noaa.gov/courses/dloc/topic3/lesson1/Section2/Section2-2.html

The Probert-Jones (P-J) radar reflectivity equation will help to quantify
the physical aspects of pulsed E-M energy and the associated limitations of
target (e.g., precipitation) detection. The P-J equation is described below
as
[image: Equation 1. Probert-Jones Radar Equation. Click for Long
Description.]http://www.wdtb.noaa.gov/courses/dloc/topic3/lesson1/Equations/Equation1.html

Equation
1http://www.wdtb.noaa.gov/courses/dloc/topic3/lesson1/Equations/Equation1.html

where:
Pr http://www.wdtb.noaa.gov/courses/dloc/topic3/lesson1/Section2/pr.html =
power returned to the radar from a target (watts)
Pthttp://www.wdtb.noaa.gov/courses/dloc/topic3/lesson1/Section2/pt.html
=
peak transmitted power (watts)
Ghttp://www.wdtb.noaa.gov/courses/dloc/topic3/lesson1/Section2/g.html
=
antenna gain [image: greek symbol
theta]http://www.wdtb.noaa.gov/courses/dloc/topic3/lesson1/Section2/theta.html
=
angular beamwidth
Hhttp://www.wdtb.noaa.gov/courses/dloc/topic3/lesson1/Section2/h.html
=
pulse length [image: greek symbol
pi]http://www.wdtb.noaa.gov/courses/dloc/topic3/lesson1/Section2/pi.html
= pi (3.141592654)
Khttp://www.wdtb.noaa.gov/courses/dloc/topic3/lesson1/Section2/k.html
=
physical constant (target character)
Lhttp://www.wdtb.noaa.gov/courses/dloc/topic3/lesson1/Section2/l.html
=
signal loss factors associated with attenuation and receiver detection
Zhttp://www.wdtb.noaa.gov/courses/dloc/topic3/lesson1/Section2/z.html
=
target reflectivity [image: greek symbol
lambda]http://www.wdtb.noaa.gov/courses/dloc/topic3/lesson1/Section2/lambda.html
=
transmitted energy wavelength
Rhttp://www.wdtb.noaa.gov/courses/dloc/topic3/lesson1/Section2/r.html
=
target range

On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 2:52 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:

ChemE,

You can operate the radar at that power level in a continuous mode and it
does work. The pulse mode has several advantages since reception can take
place during the time that the transmitter stands by and offers no
interference. Check out the RADAR range equation and you will see that it
is based upon average power and not peak. This is because many pulses are
averaged together from a target to allow the noise to be reduced.

Trust me, I know the difference between power and energy. I have designed
a number of transmitters in the past and been cooked by a few of them! You
are correct in assuming that I have not spent time researching the subject
that you are most interested in and therefore I can not comment upon how
you carried out the research to make your conclusions. I just caution you
to use the proper control techniques to ensure accuracy, especially when
your observations appear to conflict with most others.

If you have an opportunity I would like to have one question answered so
that I might become more interested in your research. Can you clearly show
that a random location can be analyzed by your technique and the correct
decision made as to whether or not a transmitter is located there? In
other words, are there false positives or false negatives? My plate if
fairly full at the moment and I have to restrict the subjects that I can
follow. If you have followed proper controls and the effect remains well
above the noise I will find time to study your ideas as it become available.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 1:43 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

David,

I have been researching these radars for approx. 1 year and diseased
biology for 1 1/2 years.

This:
http://www.scopemed.org/?jft=65ft=65-1394615302#abstract

And This:
http://darkmattersalot.com/2014/05/03/power-to-the-people/

http://darkmattersalot.com/2014/04/13/autism-emf/

And this:

http://darkmattersalot.com/2014/03/13/its-the-same-frequency-range-why-would-you-expect-the-results-to-be-different/

And this:
http://darkmattersalot.com/2014/01/12/florida-2/

And this:
http://sdsimonson.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/11-4-13-florida1.png

And this:
http://sdsimonson.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/fish-kills-statistics.png

And this:
http

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

What do you suppose the purpose of the H term is?  It is referred to as pulse 
length in the equation.  If I choose to make it zero, then the peak power is 
totally irrelevant.  Do you still think I am wrong?

Consider what happens if one were to double that term.  The receive power would 
exactly double which to me suggests there is more of it to work with.  And, the 
average transmitter power would double as well.  Hard to argue against that.

ChemE, it is better to use the average power in the first place instead of 
having to deal with the duty cycle each time.

Dave

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 3:05 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio


David,


You are wrong.  The NEXRAD weather radar is designed based upon PEAK (Pt) 
transmitted power, not average, else there would not be enough return signal 
strength to detect. Peak is 750,000 watts to 1,000,000


http://www.wdtb.noaa.gov/courses/dloc/topic3/lesson1/Section2/Section2-2.html




The Probert-Jones (P-J) radar reflectivity equation will help to quantify the 
physical aspects of pulsed E-M energy and the associated limitations of target 
(e.g., precipitation) detection. The P-J equation is described below as


 

 

Equation 1


where:


 
Pr = power returned to the radar from a target (watts)
 
Pt = peak transmitted power (watts)

 
G = antenna gain
 
 = angular beamwidth

 
H = pulse length
 
 = pi (3.141592654)

 
K = physical constant (target character)
 
L = signal loss factors associated with attenuation and receiver detection

 
Z = target reflectivity
 
 = transmitted energy wavelength

 
R = target range
 
 


 




On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 2:52 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:

ChemE,

You can operate the radar at that power level in a continuous mode and it does 
work.  The pulse mode has several advantages since reception can take place 
during the time that the transmitter stands by and offers no interference.   
Check out the RADAR range equation and you will see that it is based upon 
average power and not peak.   This is because many pulses are averaged together 
from a target to allow the noise to be reduced.

Trust me, I know the difference between power and energy.  I have designed a 
number of transmitters in the past and been cooked by a few of them!  You are 
correct in assuming that I have not spent time researching the subject that you 
are most interested in and therefore I can not comment upon how you carried out 
the research to make your conclusions.  I just caution you to use the proper 
control techniques to ensure accuracy, especially when your observations appear 
to conflict with most others.

If you have an opportunity I would like to have one question answered so that I 
might become more interested in your research.  Can you clearly show that a 
random location can be analyzed by your technique and the correct decision made 
as to whether or not a transmitter is located there?   In other words, are 
there false positives or false negatives?  My plate if fairly full at the 
moment and I have to restrict the subjects that I can follow.   If you have 
followed proper controls and the effect remains well above the noise I will 
find time to study your ideas as it become available.

Dave 

 

 

 


-Original Message-
From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com


Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 1:43 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio


David,


I have been researching these radars for approx. 1 year and diseased biology 
for 1 1/2 years.


When you converted that instantaneous high power pulse to a one second average 
you are basically confusing power with energy, which is WRONG.  If it was 
correct then why not operate your radar continuously at an average power of 
1500 watts?  BECAUSE THEY WON'T work.


As far as I can tell you have done very little research.  If you really want to 
do some and not just talk like a radio guy, I suggest you read the following 
and the referenced research papers, many peer reviewed.


This:

http://www.scopemed.org/?jft=65ft=65-1394615302#abstract



And This:

http://darkmattersalot.com/2014/05/03/power-to-the-people/



http://darkmattersalot.com/2014/04/13/autism-emf/



And this:
http://darkmattersalot.com/2014/03/13/its-the-same-frequency-range-why-would-you-expect-the-results-to-be-different/




And this:
http://darkmattersalot.com/2014/01/12/florida-2/



And this:
http://sdsimonson.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/11-4-13-florida1.png



And this:
http://sdsimonson.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/fish-kills-statistics.png



And this:
http://darkmattersalot.com/2014/03/05/quick-everybody-rush-to-florida/



And This:
http://darkmattersalot.com/2014/04/24/a-shocking-discovery/


And also look at the 300 hundred or so epidemiology maps I have placed on my 
blog and the 900 posts over the past two years and then get back

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

To answer your second question, if you see a lot of dead stuff and diseased
biology and fish dying due to reoccuring hypoxia, there will be high
powered, pulsed microwave radars nearby with local peak power greater than
10 W/m2. ALL of our radar bases have chronic wasting in wildlife
surrounding them:

Pacific Sands
Cape Canaveral
Guam
White Sands
Colorado Springs

Just search for the names on my blog and you will find the research. I
hope you find the time.

Trust me, I know the difference between power and energy. I have designed
a number of transmitters in the past and been cooked by a few of them!
SEE, THAT IS BECAUSE YOU HAD THE WRONG EQUATION, IT IS PEAK, NOT AVERAGE.
:)

On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 2:52 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:

ChemE,

Dave

-Original Message-
From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 1:43 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

David,

I have been researching these radars for approx. 1 year and diseased
biology for 1 1/2 years.

This:
http://www.scopemed.org/?jft=65ft=65-1394615302#abstract

And This:
http://darkmattersalot.com/2014/05/03/power-to-the-people/

http://darkmattersalot.com/2014/04/13/autism-emf/

And this:

http://darkmattersalot.com/2014/03/13/its-the-same-frequency-range-why-would-you-expect-the-results-to-be-different/

And this:
http://darkmattersalot.com/2014/01/12/florida-2/

And this:
http://sdsimonson.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/11-4-13-florida1.png

And this:
http://sdsimonson.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/fish-kills-statistics.png

And this:
http://darkmattersalot.com/2014/03/05/quick-everybody-rush-to-florida/

And This:
http://darkmattersalot.com/2014/04/24/a-shocking-discovery/

And also look at the 300 hundred or so epidemiology maps I have placed
on my blog and the 900 posts over the past two years and then get back to
me OK??

I am just wondering why 1/68 kids in the US now have autism, 50 million
people in the US now have an auto-immune disease and all of our f^%ing
wildlife is suffering AND NOBODY SEEMS TO KNOW WHY

Oh, and read this and get back to me in a month, once you have actually
done some of your own research, OK?
[image: Doppler Radar]

On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 12:13 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.comwrote:

ChemE,

Dave

-Original Message-
From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 11:17 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

David,

It is not heating. It is the electromagnetic discharge of the
instantaneous pulses of microwave radiation

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

David,

Yes, you are still wrong. I understand pulse length, the 750,000 watt peak
pulse is only ON for ~1/1000 of each second. That still does not mean you
can average it over a second and say it is safe or low power. If H is 0
there is no pulse.

Please stick your tongue in a 750,000 watt light bulb socket for 1/1000 of
a second and report back to me. Electromagnetic radiation travels 186 miles
in that amount of time.

Mike Tyson still knocks you out. Or maybe it is more like the quickness of
Mohammad Ali.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqMXpziDJsM

On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 3:18 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:

What do you suppose the purpose of the H term is? It is referred to as
pulse length in the equation. If I choose to make it zero, then the peak
power is totally irrelevant. Do you still think I am wrong?

Consider what happens if one were to double that term. The receive power
would exactly double which to me suggests there is more of it to work
with. And, the average transmitter power would double as well. Hard to
argue against that.

ChemE, it is better to use the average power in the first place instead of
having to deal with the duty cycle each time.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 3:05 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

David,

You are wrong. The NEXRAD weather radar is designed based upon PEAK
(Pt) transmitted power, not average, else there would not be enough return
signal strength to detect. Peak is 750,000 watts to 1,000,000

http://www.wdtb.noaa.gov/courses/dloc/topic3/lesson1/Section2/Section2-2.html

The Probert-Jones (P-J) radar reflectivity equation will help to
quantify the physical aspects of pulsed E-M energy and the associated
limitations of target (e.g., precipitation) detection. The P-J equation is
described below as
[image: Equation 1. Probert-Jones Radar Equation. Click for Long
Description.]http://www.wdtb.noaa.gov/courses/dloc/topic3/lesson1/Equations/Equation1.html

Equation
1http://www.wdtb.noaa.gov/courses/dloc/topic3/lesson1/Equations/Equation1.html
where:
Prhttp://www.wdtb.noaa.gov/courses/dloc/topic3/lesson1/Section2/pr.html
= power returned to the radar from a target (watts)
Pthttp://www.wdtb.noaa.gov/courses/dloc/topic3/lesson1/Section2/pt.html =
peak transmitted power (watts)
Ghttp://www.wdtb.noaa.gov/courses/dloc/topic3/lesson1/Section2/g.html =
antenna gain [image: greek symbol
theta]http://www.wdtb.noaa.gov/courses/dloc/topic3/lesson1/Section2/theta.html
=
angular beamwidth
Hhttp://www.wdtb.noaa.gov/courses/dloc/topic3/lesson1/Section2/h.html =
pulse length [image: greek symbol
pi]http://www.wdtb.noaa.gov/courses/dloc/topic3/lesson1/Section2/pi.html
= pi (3.141592654)
Khttp://www.wdtb.noaa.gov/courses/dloc/topic3/lesson1/Section2/k.html =
physical constant (target character)
Lhttp://www.wdtb.noaa.gov/courses/dloc/topic3/lesson1/Section2/l.html =
signal loss factors associated with attenuation and receiver detection
Zhttp://www.wdtb.noaa.gov/courses/dloc/topic3/lesson1/Section2/z.html =
target reflectivity [image: greek symbol
lambda]http://www.wdtb.noaa.gov/courses/dloc/topic3/lesson1/Section2/lambda.html
=
transmitted energy wavelength
Rhttp://www.wdtb.noaa.gov/courses/dloc/topic3/lesson1/Section2/r.html =
target range

On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 2:52 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.comwrote:

ChemE,

Trust me, I know the difference between power and energy. I have
designed a number of transmitters in the past and been cooked by a few of
them! You are correct in assuming that I have not spent time researching
the subject that you are most interested in and therefore I can not comment
upon how you carried out the research to make your conclusions. I just
caution you to use the proper control techniques to ensure accuracy,
especially when your observations appear to conflict with most others.

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

How about sticking your tongue into the 750,000 volt light socket for 1 
nanosecond instead?   And if Mike Tyson's fist is stopped by some force in 1 
microsecond after it makes contact with your face, it will do little if any 
damage.

Lets drop this discussion.

Dave

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 3:39 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio


David,


Yes, you are still wrong. I understand pulse length, the 750,000 watt peak 
pulse is only ON for ~1/1000 of each second.  That still does not mean you can 
average it over a second and say it is safe or low power. If H is 0 there is 
no pulse.


Please stick your tongue in a 750,000 watt light bulb socket for 1/1000 of a 
second and report back to me. Electromagnetic radiation travels 186 miles in 
that amount of time.


Mike Tyson still knocks you out.  Or maybe it is more like the quickness of 
Mohammad Ali.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqMXpziDJsM





On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 3:18 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:

What do you suppose the purpose of the H term is?  It is referred to as pulse 
length in the equation.  If I choose to make it zero, then the peak power is 
totally irrelevant.  Do you still think I am wrong?

Consider what happens if one were to double that term.  The receive power would 
exactly double which to me suggests there is more of it to work with.  And, the 
average transmitter power would double as well.  Hard to argue against that.

ChemE, it is better to use the average power in the first place instead of 
having to deal with the duty cycle each time.

Dave


 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 3:05 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio


David,


You are wrong.  The NEXRAD weather radar is designed based upon PEAK (Pt) 
transmitted power, not average, else there would not be enough return signal 
strength to detect. Peak is 750,000 watts to 1,000,000


http://www.wdtb.noaa.gov/courses/dloc/topic3/lesson1/Section2/Section2-2.html




The Probert-Jones (P-J) radar reflectivity equation will help to quantify the 
physical aspects of pulsed E-M energy and the associated limitations of target 
(e.g., precipitation) detection. The P-J equation is described below as


 

 

Equation 1


where:


 
Pr = power returned to the radar from a target (watts)
 
Pt = peak transmitted power (watts)

 
G = antenna gain
 
 = angular beamwidth

 
H = pulse length
 
 = pi (3.141592654)

 
K = physical constant (target character)
 
L = signal loss factors associated with attenuation and receiver detection

 
Z = target reflectivity
 
 = transmitted energy wavelength

 
R = target range
 
 


 




On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 2:52 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:

ChemE,

You can operate the radar at that power level in a continuous mode and it does 
work.  The pulse mode has several advantages since reception can take place 
during the time that the transmitter stands by and offers no interference.   
Check out the RADAR range equation and you will see that it is based upon 
average power and not peak.   This is because many pulses are averaged together 
from a target to allow the noise to be reduced.

Trust me, I know the difference between power and energy.  I have designed a 
number of transmitters in the past and been cooked by a few of them!  You are 
correct in assuming that I have not spent time researching the subject that you 
are most interested in and therefore I can not comment upon how you carried out 
the research to make your conclusions.  I just caution you to use the proper 
control techniques to ensure accuracy, especially when your observations appear 
to conflict with most others.

If you have an opportunity I would like to have one question answered so that I 
might become more interested in your research.  Can you clearly show that a 
random location can be analyzed by your technique and the correct decision made 
as to whether or not a transmitter is located there?   In other words, are 
there false positives or false negatives?  My plate if fairly full at the 
moment and I have to restrict the subjects that I can follow.   If you have 
followed proper controls and the effect remains well above the noise I will 
find time to study your ideas as it become available.

Dave 

 

 

 


-Original Message-
From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com


Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 1:43 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio


David,


I have been researching these radars for approx. 1 year and diseased biology 
for 1 1/2 years.


When you converted that instantaneous high power pulse to a one second average 
you are basically confusing power with energy, which is WRONG.  If it was 
correct then why not operate your radar continuously at an average power

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

Let's not drop it,

NOAA does not know the difference between Energy and Power:

http://www.wdtb.noaa.gov/courses/dloc/topic3/lesson1/Section2/g.html

Antenna Gain (G)

Gain is a measure of the antenna's capability to focus outgoing energy into
a beam. Energy is originally assumed to be radiated isotropically (i.e.,
equally in all spherical directions). That energy is then concentrated or
focused into a narrow beam based on the shape of the antenna. The WSR-88D
antenna is a parabolic reflector and has a gain of 35,481.

Notice that Pr is directly related to the square of G which means that
doubling the gain of the antenna would increase returned power by four
times the original value. However, the WSR-88D antenna has a fixed diameter
which makes G a constant. Similarly, the larger the antenna dish, the more
returned *energy (power)**[WRONG, THEY ARE NOT THE SAME]* from targets can
be collected which acts to *increase a radar's sensitivity* (or ability to
detect distant and/or very small targets).

A classic analogy used to describe power and energy is based on water
towers. Water in the tower is energy and the flow of water out of the tower
is power. Energy can be stored, like water. It can also flow. When energy
flows, it can do work like moving stuff or lighting a house. The speed at
which energy flows is called *power*.[Mike Tyson's Punch] The same amount
of energy can be released at high power (which will occur quickly) or at
low power (which will take more time).

Also, in one nanosecond, electricity will flow 1 foot so I will still be
cooked.

On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 4:20 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:

How about sticking your tongue into the 750,000 volt light socket for 1
nanosecond instead? And if Mike Tyson's fist is stopped by some force in
1 microsecond after it makes contact with your face, it will do little if
any damage.

Lets drop this discussion.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 3:39 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

David,

Yes, you are still wrong. I understand pulse length, the 750,000 watt
peak pulse is only ON for ~1/1000 of each second. That still does not mean
you can average it over a second and say it is safe or low power. If H is
0 there is no pulse.

Please stick your tongue in a 750,000 watt light bulb socket for 1/1000
of a second and report back to me. Electromagnetic radiation travels 186
miles in that amount of time.

Mike Tyson still knocks you out. Or maybe it is more like the quickness
of Mohammad Ali.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqMXpziDJsM

On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 3:18 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.comwrote:

ChemE, it is better to use the average power in the first place instead
of having to deal with the duty cycle each time.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 3:05 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

David,

You are wrong. The NEXRAD weather radar is designed based upon PEAK
(Pt) transmitted power, not average, else there would not be enough return
signal strength to detect. Peak is 750,000 watts to 1,000,000

http://www.wdtb.noaa.gov/courses/dloc/topic3/lesson1/Section2/Section2-2.html

The Probert-Jones (P-J) radar reflectivity equation will help to
quantify the physical aspects of pulsed E-M energy and the associated
limitations of target (e.g., precipitation) detection. The P-J equation is
described below as
[image: Equation 1. Probert-Jones Radar Equation. Click for Long
Description.]http://www.wdtb.noaa.gov/courses/dloc/topic3/lesson1/Equations/Equation1.html

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

Bob,

I suspect that you are correct in your concern provided that the organism DNA 
is damaged.  Perhaps we should think about the energy associated with each 
photon as it impacts the cell instead of a complete wave front.  Each photon 
has much less than .1 eV of energy, a level which I assume could be dangerous.  
 If we consider a large number of photons acting as a group we most likely 
should consider heat damage instead of individual point damage.   After all, 
the action of many simultaneous photons results in the interference patterns 
that measure in the near fractional wave lengths.

If a high Q resonance exists one might see coupling from the induced fields.  I 
do not recall anyone finding a resonance of this nature that could be excited 
to a dangerous extent.  One might think that any energy coupling to a DNA 
strand would be shared among the nearby molecules, especially water.

The tritium radiation hazard seems to be of a different nature and much more 
concerning.  In that case the energy released by a single event is concentrated 
in space and capable of direct damage to DNA.  I have not seen reason to 
suspect that normal cellular towers or radar systems are capable of producing 
tritium.  I would expect that the energy is far too un concentrated to achieve 
that goal.

Dave

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 12:21 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio



Dave--
 
One possible effect is the resonant absorbtion of radiation by biologically 
active molecules, which cause ionization and destruction of the molecules.  
This is particularly damaging when the molecule is a DNA or RNA molecule.  Weak 
H bonds occur in these molecules and such destruction leads to modified DNA or 
RNA activity.  The average heating idea also is appropriate, however it is not 
as much as a problem as the destruction or disabling of the large molecules 
that control the body's production of other complex molecules.  DNA in skin and 
eye cells would be more susceptible than those more deeply situated in the 
body.   Reproductive organs near the surface of the body are more venerable to 
such radiation and hence to genetic changes that are passed on to offspring.  
Such a problem applies to humans as well a smaller animals and birds that have 
the least amount of shielding of their gonads.
 
The other issue associated with DNA destruction could be  the stimulated 
emission of tritium by the exposure to the intense radiation of the radars.  
Tritium is a bad actor when it decays in a nucleus of a cell.  The beta from 
the tritium is about 18 Kev.  This energy is deposited over a path of about 6 
microns.  The average dimension of a cell nucleus is about 6 to 10 microns.  
This means a large fraction of the beta from tritium decay is deposited in the 
nucleus where it is bound to cause numerous double breaks of DNA molecules and 
the genetic damage that goes along with these breaks.  Such mutagenic effects 
were observed in the vole population around Chernobyl after the nuclear 
accident as a result of tritium contamination in the drinking water consumed by 
the vole population.  
 
(Considering the damage to gene cells of the body, the EPA drinking water 
standard for tritium, 20,000 pico curies per liter, is way to high (about 100 
times) to prevent unreasonable damage to gene cells.  Small breeding 
populations of animals, including some populations of humans, can be 
unreasonably affected by such high bodily tritium concentrations as allowed by 
the current standards.  The justification by the EPA and the ICRP that any 
defects in the genetics passed on to the society get greatly diluted to reduce 
risk, does not apply to small breeding populations.  And of course, if you are 
one in a million of the people at risk that develop a health problem  that is 
non-mutagenic , it does not help you at all.)  
 
 I am one to believe that there should be no risk to vertebrates, except birds, 
existing around hazards that causes more than one health effect of the 
population subjected to the hazard.  Important insects such as bees should be 
included in this no risk  criteria.   
 
Bob
 
 
 
  
- Original Message - 
  
From:   David   Roberson 
  
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
  
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 7:57 AM
  
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave   Radio
  


Radar systems   detect the target based upon the average power incident upon 
it.  This is   due to the continuous behavior of noise which tends to mask the 
signal.Heating of the target becomes averaged out during the complete 
period of the   base pulse which in this case is about 1 milisecond.

Of course, the   reflected wave must be generated by instantaneous currents on 
the target   surface as you suggest.  If the problem you are analyzing occurs 
during   the 1 microsecond time frame then it is quite possible

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

If you want something to be concerned about all you need do is look at those 
experiments that use an enormous magnetic coil induced fields into the brains 
of subjects.   Or, the shock treatments that come close to frying your head.  
Have you had an MRI lately?

I can not help but to believe that severe damage must be taking place under 
those types of circumstances.  The RF fields associated with cellular phones 
and remote transmitter sites is small potatoes in comparison.

I have read of many research projects directed toward finding damage due to 
cellular telephones and none have been proven conclusive.  If the effect were 
obvious that would not be the case.

Of course national departments will always hedge their bets by suggesting that 
there may be some negative effect so far unseen.  Should we cease using radio 
for communication since no one can prove that it has zero negative 
consequences?  Forget about cold fusion becoming a distributed product if the 
same level of scrutiny is used to prevent it from being used.  Some risk is 
worth taking if we are to move forward.

Dave

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 12:20 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio


It is time to get beyond heating as the only way for brain damage to occur. If 
the brain functions like an electrical communication network, then it is 
possible to disrupt the network by means that don't require heating.


Harry




On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:44 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:

Much depends upon how your mechanism causes the harm.  If heat is the problem, 
then the average power is important.  Microwave cooking depends upon heating to 
prepare the meal.  The instantaneous peak power might be able to ignite a fast 
acting explosive material or cause a bulb to ionize, but the average energy is 
what is detected by the radar receiving system.

When you perform your analysis of the damage due to radar transmitters, are you 
able to determine how well centered the effect is about the device?  Another 
consideration is that the antenna pattern is generally directed above the 
ground level for a large distance.   Many folks have expressed deep concern for 
the effects of cellular radio towers due to misunderstandings about radio power 
levels.  It is generally easy to worry about issues that involves black magic 
when dealing with the public since people tend to seek simple explanations to 
their perceived problems especially when random events seem to defy 
understanding.

ChemE, I have no idea about how well you have performed your analysis of the 
radar environmental damages that you are following.  I assume that you have 
also included research which would prove that the lack of a tower always shows 
none of the degradation expected due to RF.  What is the signal to noise level 
that you are working with?  Are you confident that  you could take a random 
sample of sites, some with radars and some without, and pick the active ones 
every time?

Dave

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 9:50 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio


David,


To say it in another way, you can average the power in Mike Tyson's punch over 
one minute and say that it is low average power when in fact it knocked you on 
your ass in a fraction of a second.  That is the error in judgement I believe 
the radar physorcists have made and we are all paying dearly for.  Think of 
mama and the baby on a hillside deck getting swept by those pulses 5 or 6 times 
a minute and you will understand what I mean.  What if time did not exist like 
Einstein and others have claimed and you could not average that pulse over 
time??? What would you do then?




These are the NEXRAD WSR-88 Standard Doppler Weather Radar Specs (there are 
~150 of these in service in the US). Due to the higher gain they have more 
power density @ 10 km than an ASR-9 radar.





Radar/Call Sign
FFC

Model
WSR-88D

Max Pulsed Power (Watts)
100

Gain (dBi)
45.5

Frequency (MHz)
2,850.0

RPM
6.0

Max Power Density (W/m2) @ 10 km
112.9

Pulse Duration(uSec)
1.6

Pulse Repition Factor (Hz)
800

Range Est. (Miles)
143

Latitude
33.36358856

Longitude
-84.56607328

FIPS
13113

County
Fayette

State
GA

Comments/Source
Upgraded to Dual Pol in 2010-2012






These are the Airport TDWR Standard Doppler Weather Radar Specs (There are ~ 
50 of these in service)




TDWR 5615 MHz

Model
TDWR

Max Pulsed Power (Watts)
250,000

Gain (dBi)
50

Frequency (MHz)
5,575

RPM
5

Max Power Density (W/m2) @ 10 km
79.58

Pulse Duration(uSec)
1.1

Pulse Repition Factor (Hz)
2000

Range Est. (Miles)
56

Latitude
33.64659872

Longitude
-84.26191362

FIPS
13151

County
Henry

State
GA



















On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 11:01 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

David,

I have focused on high powered, pulsed Doppler, so I cannot comment on
radio. I liked Jones' post about a powered receiver and not high powered
transmitters. Maybe low power GPS instead of high powered radar. I am a
chemical engineer and the first thing I noticed in addition to the dying
fish due to hypoxia is the appearance of more sinkholes (in limestone)
around microwave towers in Florida. The microwave towers appear to be
dissolving limestone in Florida at a higher rate. (no statistics yet, just
maps).

http://sdsimonson.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/rf-and-microwave-stations-and-sinkholes-in-florida.png

Download Google Earth FCC file
here:https://productforums.google.com/forum/embed/#!topic/gec-dynamic-data-layers/VKAkuBNWtC8

You can download/insert the Sinkhole image from
herehttp://www.insurancejournal.com/img/articles/fl-sinkhole-map.jpg

On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 1:52 PM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.com wrote:

If you want something to be concerned about all you need do is look at
those experiments that use an enormous magnetic coil induced fields into
the brains of subjects. Or, the shock treatments that come close to
frying your head. Have you had an MRI lately?

I can not help but to believe that severe damage must be taking place
under those types of circumstances. The RF fields associated with cellular
phones and remote transmitter sites is small potatoes in comparison.

I have read of many research projects directed toward finding damage due
to cellular telephones and none have been proven conclusive. If the effect
were obvious that would not be the case.

Of course national departments will always hedge their bets by suggesting
that there may be some negative effect so far unseen. Should we cease
using radio for communication since no one can prove that it has zero
negative consequences? Forget about cold fusion becoming a distributed
product if the same level of scrutiny is used to prevent it from being
used. Some risk is worth taking if we are to move forward.

Dave

-Original Message-
From: H Veeder hveeder...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 12:20 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

It is time to get beyond heating as the only way for brain damage to
occur. If the brain functions like an electrical communication network,
then it is possible to disrupt the network by means that don't require
heating.

Harry

On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 11:44 AM, David Roberson dlrober...@aol.comwrote:

Much depends upon how your mechanism causes the harm. If heat is the
problem, then the average power is important. Microwave cooking depends
upon heating to prepare the meal. The instantaneous peak power might be
able to ignite a fast acting explosive material or cause a bulb to ionize,
but the average energy is what is detected by the radar receiving system.

When you perform your analysis of the damage due to radar transmitters,
are you able to determine how well centered the effect is about the
device? Another consideration is that the antenna pattern is generally
directed above the ground level for a large distance. Many folks have
expressed deep concern for the effects of cellular radio towers due to
misunderstandings about radio power levels. It is generally easy to worry
about issues that involves black magic when dealing with the public since
people tend to seek simple explanations to their perceived problems
especially when random events seem to defy understanding.

ChemE, I have no idea about how well you have performed your analysis of
the radar environmental damages that you are following. I assume that you
have also included research which would prove that the lack of a tower
always shows none of the degradation expected due to RF. What is the
signal to noise level that you are working with? Are you confident that
you could take a random sample of sites, some with radars and some without,
and pick the active ones every time?

Dave

-Original Message-
From: ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 9:50 am
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

David,

To say it in another way, you can average the power in Mike Tyson's
punch over one minute and say that it is low average power when in fact it
knocked you on your ass in a fraction of a second. That is the error in
judgement I believe the radar physorcists have made and we are all paying
dearly for. Think of mama and the baby on a hillside deck getting swept by
those pulses 5 or 6 times a minute and you will understand what I mean.
What if time did not exist like Einstein and others have claimed and you
could not average that pulse over time??? What would you do then?

These are the NEXRAD WSR-88 Standard Doppler Weather Radar Specs
(there are ~150 of these in service in the US). Due to the higher gain they
have more

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

2014-05-12 Thread Bob Cook

Dave--

The issue I raised regarding tritium is not that tritium is produced by the 
radiation, but that existing tritium assimilated from the environment, is 
stimulated to decay by emission of a beta particle at a rate that is higher 
than its natural decay half life of about 10.5 years.  

Bob
  - Original Message - 
  From: David Roberson 
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 11:29 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio


  Bob,

  I suspect that you are correct in your concern provided that the organism DNA 
is damaged.  Perhaps we should think about the energy associated with each 
photon as it impacts the cell instead of a complete wave front.  Each photon 
has much less than .1 eV of energy, a level which I assume could be dangerous.  
 If we consider a large number of photons acting as a group we most likely 
should consider heat damage instead of individual point damage.   After all, 
the action of many simultaneous photons results in the interference patterns 
that measure in the near fractional wave lengths.

  If a high Q resonance exists one might see coupling from the induced fields.  
I do not recall anyone finding a resonance of this nature that could be excited 
to a dangerous extent.  One might think that any energy coupling to a DNA 
strand would be shared among the nearby molecules, especially water.

  The tritium radiation hazard seems to be of a different nature and much more 
concerning.  In that case the energy released by a single event is concentrated 
in space and capable of direct damage to DNA.  I have not seen reason to 
suspect that normal cellular towers or radar systems are capable of producing 
tritium.  I would expect that the energy is far too un concentrated to achieve 
that goal.

  Dave







  -Original Message-
  From: Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com
  To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
  Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 12:21 pm
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio


  Dave--

  One possible effect is the resonant absorbtion of radiation by biologically 
active molecules, which cause ionization and destruction of the molecules.  
This is particularly damaging when the molecule is a DNA or RNA molecule.  Weak 
H bonds occur in these molecules and such destruction leads to modified DNA or 
RNA activity.  The average heating idea also is appropriate, however it is not 
as much as a problem as the destruction or disabling of the large molecules 
that control the body's production of other complex molecules.  DNA in skin and 
eye cells would be more susceptible than those more deeply situated in the 
body.   Reproductive organs near the surface of the body are more venerable to 
such radiation and hence to genetic changes that are passed on to offspring.  
Such a problem applies to humans as well a smaller animals and birds that have 
the least amount of shielding of their gonads.

  The other issue associated with DNA destruction could be  the stimulated 
emission of tritium by the exposure to the intense radiation of the radars.  
Tritium is a bad actor when it decays in a nucleus of a cell.  The beta from 
the tritium is about 18 Kev.  This energy is deposited over a path of about 6 
microns.  The average dimension of a cell nucleus is about 6 to 10 microns.  
This means a large fraction of the beta from tritium decay is deposited in the 
nucleus where it is bound to cause numerous double breaks of DNA molecules and 
the genetic damage that goes along with these breaks.  Such mutagenic effects 
were observed in the vole population around Chernobyl after the nuclear 
accident as a result of tritium contamination in the drinking water consumed by 
the vole population.  

  (Considering the damage to gene cells of the body, the EPA drinking water 
standard for tritium, 20,000 pico curies per liter, is way to high (about 100 
times) to prevent unreasonable damage to gene cells.  Small breeding 
populations of animals, including some populations of humans, can be 
unreasonably affected by such high bodily tritium concentrations as allowed by 
the current standards.  The justification by the EPA and the ICRP that any 
defects in the genetics passed on to the society get greatly diluted to reduce 
risk, does not apply to small breeding populations.  And of course, if you are 
one in a million of the people at risk that develop a health problem  that is 
non-mutagenic , it does not help you at all.)  

   I am one to believe that there should be no risk to vertebrates, except 
birds, existing around hazards that causes more than one health effect of the 
population subjected to the hazard.  Important insects such as bees should be 
included in this no risk  criteria.   

  Bob



- Original Message - 
From: David Roberson 
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 7:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio


Radar systems detect the target based upon the average power

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

Bob,

Thanks for clarifying that situation since I misunderstood your point entirely.

Dave

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 10:46 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio



Dave--
 
The issue I raised regarding tritium is not that tritium is produced by the 
radiation, but that existing tritium assimilated from the environment, is 
stimulated to decay by emission of a beta particle at a rate that is higher 
than its natural decay half life of about 10.5 years.  
 
Bob
  
- Original Message - 
  
From:   David   Roberson 
  
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
  
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 11:29 AM
  
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave   Radio
  


Bob,

I   suspect that you are correct in your concern provided that the organism DNA 
is   damaged.  Perhaps we should think about the energy associated with each   
photon as it impacts the cell instead of a complete wave front.  Each   photon 
has much less than .1 eV of energy, a level which I assume could be   
dangerous.   If we consider a large number of photons acting as a   group we 
most likely should consider heat damage instead of individual point   damage.   
After all, the action of many simultaneous photons results   in the 
interference patterns that measure in the near fractional wave   lengths.

If a high Q resonance exists one might see coupling from the   induced fields.  
I do not recall anyone finding a resonance of this   nature that could be 
excited to a dangerous extent.  One might think that   any energy coupling to a 
DNA strand would be shared among the nearby   molecules, especially water.

The tritium radiation hazard seems to be   of a different nature and much more 
concerning.  In that case the energy   released by a single event is 
concentrated in space and capable of direct   damage to DNA.  I have not seen 
reason to suspect that normal cellular   towers or radar systems are capable of 
producing tritium.  I would expect   that the energy is far too un concentrated 
to achieve that   goal.

Dave
  


  


  


  
-Original   Message-
From: Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com
To: vortex-l   vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Mon, May 12, 2014 12:21 pm
Subject:   Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

  
  
  
Dave--
  
 
  
One possible effect is the resonant absorbtion of   radiation by biologically 
active molecules, which cause ionization and   destruction of the molecules.  
This is particularly damaging when the   molecule is a DNA or RNA molecule.  
Weak H bonds occur in these molecules   and such destruction leads to modified 
DNA or RNA activity.  The average   heating idea also is appropriate, however 
it is not as much as a problem as   the destruction or disabling of the large 
molecules that control the body's   production of other complex molecules.  DNA 
in skin and eye cells would   be more susceptible than those more deeply 
situated in the body. Reproductive organs near the surface of the body are 
more venerable to such   radiation and hence to genetic changes that are passed 
on to offspring.Such a problem applies to humans as well a smaller animals 
and birds that have   the least amount of shielding of their gonads.
  
 
  
The other issue associated with DNA destruction   could be  the stimulated 
emission of tritium by the exposure to the   intense radiation of the radars.  
Tritium is a bad actor when it decays   in a nucleus of a cell.  The beta from 
the tritium is about 18 Kev.This energy is deposited over a path of about 6 
microns.  The   average dimension of a cell nucleus is about 6 to 10 microns.  
This means   a large fraction of the beta from tritium decay is deposited in 
the nucleus   where it is bound to cause numerous double breaks of DNA 
molecules and the   genetic damage that goes along with these breaks.  Such 
mutagenic effects   were observed in the vole population around Chernobyl after 
the nuclear   accident as a result of tritium contamination in the drinking 
water consumed   by the vole population.  
  
 
  
(Considering the damage to gene cells of the   body, the EPA drinking water 
standard for tritium, 20,000 pico curies per   liter, is way to high (about 100 
times) to prevent unreasonable damage to gene   cells.  Small breeding 
populations of animals, including some populations   of humans, can be 
unreasonably affected by such high bodily tritium   concentrations as allowed 
by the current standards.  The   justification by the EPA and the ICRP that any 
defects in the genetics   passed on to the society get greatly diluted to 
reduce risk, does not apply to   small breeding populations.  And of course, if 
you are one in a million   of the people at risk that develop a health problem  
that   is non-mutagenic , it does not help you at all.)  
  
 
  
 I am one to believe that there should be no   risk to vertebrates, except 
birds, existing around

RE: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

2014-05-12 Thread MarkI-ZeroPoint

ChemE,

What is the avg radius of detrimental health effects around the Doppler 
stations?

-mark 

 

From: ChemE Stewart [mailto:cheme...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 4:29 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

 

Bob, agreed. I told the biologist that is running statistics that I think the 
microwave radars may be breaking RNA/DNA strands and triggering single stranded 
RNA viruses like norovirus outbreaks on cruise ships.

 

http://darkmattersalot.com/2014/04/27/were-cooked/

 

 

 

On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 12:19 PM, Bob Cook frobertc...@hotmail.com 
javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','frobertc...@hotmail.com');  wrote:

Dave--

 

One possible effect is the resonant absorbtion of radiation by biologically 
active molecules, which cause ionization and destruction of the molecules.  
This is particularly damaging when the molecule is a DNA or RNA molecule.  Weak 
H bonds occur in these molecules and such destruction leads to modified DNA or 
RNA activity.  The average heating idea also is appropriate, however it is not 
as much as a problem as the destruction or disabling of the large molecules 
that control the body's production of other complex molecules.  DNA in skin and 
eye cells would be more susceptible than those more deeply situated in the 
body.   Reproductive organs near the surface of the body are more venerable to 
such radiation and hence to genetic changes that are passed on to offspring.  
Such a problem applies to humans as well a smaller animals and birds that have 
the least amount of shielding of their gonads.

 

The other issue associated with DNA destruction could be  the stimulated 
emission of tritium by the exposure to the intense radiation of the radars.  
Tritium is a bad actor when it decays in a nucleus of a cell.  The beta from 
the tritium is about 18 Kev.  This energy is deposited over a path of about 6 
microns.  The average dimension of a cell nucleus is about 6 to 10 microns.  
This means a large fraction of the beta from tritium decay is deposited in the 
nucleus where it is bound to cause numerous double breaks of DNA molecules and 
the genetic damage that goes along with these breaks.  Such mutagenic effects 
were observed in the vole population around Chernobyl after the nuclear 
accident as a result of tritium contamination in the drinking water consumed by 
the vole population.  

 

(Considering the damage to gene cells of the body, the EPA drinking water 
standard for tritium, 20,000 pico curies per liter, is way to high (about 100 
times) to prevent unreasonable damage to gene cells.  Small breeding 
populations of animals, including some populations of humans, can be 
unreasonably affected by such high bodily tritium concentrations as allowed by 
the current standards.  The justification by the EPA and the ICRP that any 
defects in the genetics passed on to the society get greatly diluted to reduce 
risk, does not apply to small breeding populations.  And of course, if you are 
one in a million of the people at risk that develop a health problem  that is 
non-mutagenic , it does not help you at all.)  

 

 I am one to believe that there should be no risk to vertebrates, except birds, 
existing around hazards that causes more than one health effect of the 
population subjected to the hazard.  Important insects such as bees should be 
included in this no risk  criteria.   

 

Bob

 

 

 

- Original Message - 

From: David Roberson javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','dlrober...@aol.com');  

To: vortex-l@eskimo.com javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','vortex-l@eskimo.com');  

Sent: Monday, May 12, 2014 7:57 AM

Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

 

Radar systems detect the target based upon the average power incident upon it.  
This is due to the continuous behavior of noise which tends to mask the signal. 
 Heating of the target becomes averaged out during the complete period of the 
base pulse which in this case is about 1 milisecond.

Of course, the reflected wave must be generated by instantaneous currents on 
the target surface as you suggest.  If the problem you are analyzing occurs 
during the 1 microsecond time frame then it is quite possible for it to be 
demonstrated.  The skin effect also comes into consideration at the high RF 
frequencies which tends to reduce penetration of the signal into the target.  
Better conductivity of the material decreases the dept rapidly.

A true Doppler radar would have the full heating effect due to the RF maximum 
power level as long as the antenna pattern illuminates the target you are 
considering.  Also, the pulsed radar pattern of the radar mentioned impacts 
upon your desired target for a small portion of the dish rotation time.   The 
average target heating must be adjusted accordingly.

I do not understand the nature of the damage that you are considering with your 
research.  If it is associated with the average heating as with a microwave 
oven then the pulse

RE: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

2014-05-11 Thread Jones Beene

From: James Bowery 

 

Just got off the phone with the author and he doesn't see any indication Tesla 
was onto the vector potential -- which Maxwell called electrokinetic momentum.

 

BTW:  He says Maxwell made no bones about the physical reality of 
electrokinetic momentum -- he was quite clear it was physical.

 

There could be some confusion in semantics or terminology, but it is 
short-sighted to overlook Tesla’s contribution to this field in terms of 
practical application of a similar phenomenon – which is capturing the energy 
of wireless transmission (of some type of energy) in a way that seems to avoid 
inverse-square diminution. 

 

This identical phenomenon could also be at the basis of the Sweet/Manelas 
device as tested by Brian Ahern. The device was invented by Floyd Sweet and 
built by Arthur Manelas.

 

Brian put up some relevant slides on this site which documents the energy 
anomaly discovered with the Manelas devices. Please invite Zimmerman to have a 
look.

http://e-catsite.com/manelas-device/

 

What makes me think this is related to a Zimmerman type of receiver is that 

1)The “load” is also a plasma “antenna” of a sort (CFL lamps)

2)the device must be battery powered in order to receive this kind of 
energy but the batteries do not discharge. They actually appears to be part of 
the receiving structure

3)there is a Doppler radar nearby in Manchester NH (not certain of the 
exact distance away, maybe Stewart knows)

4)the ferrite billet corresponds well in dimensions to a harmonic 
wavelength of GHz in the range of 1-2 GHz.

 

Another detail of note – the device cools down below ambient during operation, 
despite being powered by a fairly high current.

 

In the context of Stewart’s Doppler radar disclosures, one would think the 
Zimmerman type of vector wave collection device would have practical 
application to tap into this as a source of power; and as it turns out – this 
device could inadvertently be doing just that.

 

Jones

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

2014-05-11 Thread James Bowery

From the author:

It may be shown that A of the form:

  A=exp[-j(wt-kz)

satisfies the scalar Helmholtz wave equation. For example, see J.D.Jackson
Classical Electrodynamics or John Kraus Antennas. Reading these back in
2005, I knew that A would propagate even before I did the first experiment.



On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:30 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:

 Experimental results with plasma.

 Reception of longitudinal vector potential radiation with a plasma 
 antennahttp://www.deepdyve.com/lp/american-institute-of-physics/reception-of-longitudinal-vector-potential-radiation-with-a-plasma-mXGude67Ol?articleList=%2Fsearch%3Fquery%3Dexperiments%2Bwith%2Bmagnetic%2Bvector%2Bpotential
 Zimmerman, Robert 
 K.http://www.deepdyve.com/search?author=Zimmerman%2C+Robert+K.
  Journal of Applied 
 Physicshttp://www.deepdyve.com/browse/journals/journal-of-applied-physics
  , Volume 114 (4) – Jul 28, 2013

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

2014-05-11 Thread James Bowery

BTW, he worked on SETI and is convinced a $500 upgrade to the dish is all
that's required to turn it into a vector potential receiver/transmitter.
 He's also believes vector potential to be more advanced technology and
therefore more likely to detect intelligent ET life.


On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 1:52 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:

 From the author:

 It may be shown that A of the form:

   A=exp[-j(wt-kz)

 satisfies the scalar Helmholtz wave equation. For example, see J.D.Jackson
 Classical Electrodynamics or John Kraus Antennas. Reading these back in
 2005, I knew that A would propagate even before I did the first experiment.



 On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:30 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:

 Experimental results with plasma.

 Reception of longitudinal vector potential radiation with a plasma
 antennahttp://www.deepdyve.com/lp/american-institute-of-physics/reception-of-longitudinal-vector-potential-radiation-with-a-plasma-mXGude67Ol?articleList=%2Fsearch%3Fquery%3Dexperiments%2Bwith%2Bmagnetic%2Bvector%2Bpotential
 Zimmerman, Robert 
 K.http://www.deepdyve.com/search?author=Zimmerman%2C+Robert+K.
  Journal of Applied 
 Physicshttp://www.deepdyve.com/browse/journals/journal-of-applied-physics
  , Volume 114 (4) – Jul 28, 2013

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

2014-05-11 Thread James Bowery

Erratum:  He may not have worked on SETI directly but he did work on the
Arecibo dish used by SETI.


On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 2:07 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:

 BTW, he worked on SETI and is convinced a $500 upgrade to the dish is all
 that's required to turn it into a vector potential receiver/transmitter.
  He's also believes vector potential to be more advanced technology and
 therefore more likely to detect intelligent ET life.


 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 1:52 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:

 From the author:

 It may be shown that A of the form:

   A=exp[-j(wt-kz)

 satisfies the scalar Helmholtz wave equation. For example, see
 J.D.Jackson Classical Electrodynamics or John Kraus Antennas. Reading
 these back in 2005, I knew that A would propagate even before I did the
 first experiment.



 On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:30 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:

 Experimental results with plasma.

 Reception of longitudinal vector potential radiation with a plasma
 antennahttp://www.deepdyve.com/lp/american-institute-of-physics/reception-of-longitudinal-vector-potential-radiation-with-a-plasma-mXGude67Ol?articleList=%2Fsearch%3Fquery%3Dexperiments%2Bwith%2Bmagnetic%2Bvector%2Bpotential
 Zimmerman, Robert 
 K.http://www.deepdyve.com/search?author=Zimmerman%2C+Robert+K.
  Journal of Applied 
 Physicshttp://www.deepdyve.com/browse/journals/journal-of-applied-physics
  , Volume 114 (4) – Jul 28, 2013

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

2014-05-11 Thread ChemE Stewart

Radar/Call SignMHTModelASR-9Max Pulsed Power (Watts)1,300,000Gain
(dBi)34Frequency
(MHz)2,800RPM12.5Max Power Density (W/m2) @ 10 km10.39Pulse Duration(uSec)
1.00Pulse Repition Factor (Hz)1,000Range Est. (Miles)60Latitude42.937248
Longitude-71.437286FIPS33011CountyHillsboroughStateNH


On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:

  *From:* James Bowery



 Just got off the phone with the author and he doesn't see any indication
 Tesla was onto the vector potential -- which Maxwell called electrokinetic
 momentum.



 BTW:  He says Maxwell made no bones about the physical reality of
 electrokinetic momentum -- he was quite clear it was physical.



 There could be some confusion in semantics or terminology, but it is
 short-sighted to overlook Tesla’s contribution to this field in terms of
 practical application of a similar phenomenon – which is capturing the
 energy of wireless transmission (of some type of energy) in a way that
 seems to avoid inverse-square diminution.



 This identical phenomenon could also be at the basis of the Sweet/Manelas
 device as tested by Brian Ahern. The device was invented by Floyd Sweet and
 built by Arthur Manelas.



 Brian put up some relevant slides on this site which documents the energy
 anomaly discovered with the Manelas devices. Please invite Zimmerman to
 have a look.

 http://e-catsite.com/manelas-device/



 What makes me think this is related to a Zimmerman type of receiver is
 that

 1)The “load” is also a plasma “antenna” of a sort (CFL lamps)

 2)the device must be battery powered in order to receive this kind of
 energy but the batteries do not discharge. They actually appears to be part
 of the receiving structure

 3)there is a Doppler radar nearby in Manchester NH (not certain of
 the exact distance away, maybe Stewart knows)

 4)the ferrite billet corresponds well in dimensions to a harmonic
 wavelength of GHz in the range of 1-2 GHz.



 Another detail of note – the device cools down below ambient during
 operation, despite being powered by a fairly high current.



 In the context of Stewart’s Doppler radar disclosures, one would think the
 Zimmerman type of vector wave collection device would have practical
 application to tap into this as a source of power; and as it turns out –
 this device could inadvertently be doing just that.



 Jones

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

2014-05-11 Thread Eric Walker

Stewart,

I have glanced at your web site.  I have not taken a close look at your
research, but I would not be surprised if you ended up being onto something
about doppler radar being a source of hypoxia, oxygen free radicals and the
death of nearby animal and plant life.  You also have a theory of dark
matter, and a hunch that dark matter is indirectly responsible for the
conclusions concerning doppler radar that you arrive at in your informal
research.

On the connection to dark matter, I personally have no opinion.  I am
skeptical, however, that your research is sufficient to establish any kind
of linkage between the effects of doppler radar and dark matter, however.
 In light of this doubt, I think you might be able to get your
investigation into doppler radar out to a wider audience if you did not
combine it with the question of dark matter.  Adding dark matter into the
mix asks too much of people in their suspension of disbelief for them to be
able to give much credibility to your doppler radar hunch, even if both
hunches ended up being true.

Eric



On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 5:55 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:

 Radar/Call SignMHTModel ASR-9Max Pulsed Power (Watts)1,300,000Gain 
 (dBi)34Frequency
 (MHz)2,800RPM12.5Max Power Density (W/m2) @ 10 km 10.39Pulse
 Duration(uSec)1.00Pulse Repition Factor (Hz)1,000Range Est. (Miles)60
 Latitude42.937248 Longitude-71.437286FIPS33011CountyHillsboroughStateNH

RE: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

2014-05-11 Thread Jones Beene

Very interesting, Stewart

 

The frequency is 2.8 GHz That means the wavelength is pretty close to the 4 
inch geometry of the ferrite billet of the Manelas devise. There is a picture 
of it in the slides. You can see that the way that the permanent magnetic field 
is imprinted will allow a needle to levitate, which is a bit unusual.

 

If the waves (at least the component of the wave packet which is not 
sinusoidal) are “longitudinal” in one dimension, from an active transmitter to 
the receiver - then they are somewhat like sound waves (vibrations that 
eventually propagate in the receiver by means of adiabatic compression and 
decompression. They cannot couple with the receiver unless it is active as well 
(powered).

 

This billet is made of compressed nanopowder of either strontium ferrite or 
barium ferrite. 

 

 

From: ChemE Stewart 

 


Radar/Call Sign

MHT


Model

ASR-9


Max Pulsed Power (Watts)

1,300,000


Gain (dBi)

34


Frequency (MHz)

2,800


RPM

12.5


Max Power Density (W/m2) @ 10 km

10.39


Pulse Duration(uSec)

1.00


Pulse Repition Factor (Hz)

1,000


Range Est. (Miles)

60


Latitude

42.937248


Longitude

-71.437286


FIPS

33011


County

Hillsborough


State

NH

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

2014-05-11 Thread ChemE Stewart

Eric,

I appreciate your feedback. I agree that the two are separate.  I am
working on one wildlife research paper that just details a correlation
between fish dying due to hypoxia/algae blooms and locations of microwave
radar towers in the State of Florida, it is almost complete, I have placed
numerous epidemiology maps on my blog and some p-Value statistics. It has
already attracted attention.

I already have another senior researcher taking my radar database and
running it through a national health database to see if there are any
correlations with human health. I spent 4 months compiling the radar
database from many public sources.  I have placed some maps on my blog of
disease clusters vs. radar locations, some appear to make sense, others do
not. We are pulsing over 600 million watts of 2-6 GHz microwave radiation
24/7 into the atmosphere over the US. There are now 20-30 research papers
showing negative effects on biology of this frequency range, depending upon
power levels and duration.

As some of you know I started by trying to figure out if we have dark
matter or dark vacuum energy decaying in our atmosphere triggering
weather disturbances.  I have very little atomic/subatomic expertise but
I have been looking for signatures of gravitational lensing during storms
and such, since cosmic strings of vacuum should lense light.  In studying
Doppler radar I noticed the electromagnetic radiation is also bent and
scattered by the atmosphere due to ducting and hydrometers and other
anomolous effects.  To me the ducting may be a sign of lensing of doppler
radiation.

My blog is just a theory site and I try to have fun with it and I put a
bunch of stuff/thoughts out there.  I am getting 40-50 countries a week
visiting the blog so the information is getting out.  I am an engineer and
not a scientist, I did an honors thesis at college my senior year and that
is about it.  Listening to you guys has been very helpful to understand the
subatomic piece .  If the microwave radars are having a bad effect,
everyone should be aware of it.

Our reefs are dying, our bees are disappearing, bats, coral reefs, etc. and
that is a massive failure for our children.


On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com wrote:

 Stewart,

 I have glanced at your web site.  I have not taken a close look at your
 research, but I would not be surprised if you ended up being onto something
 about doppler radar being a source of hypoxia, oxygen free radicals and the
 death of nearby animal and plant life.  You also have a theory of dark
 matter, and a hunch that dark matter is indirectly responsible for the
 conclusions concerning doppler radar that you arrive at in your informal
 research.

 On the connection to dark matter, I personally have no opinion.  I am
 skeptical, however, that your research is sufficient to establish any kind
 of linkage between the effects of doppler radar and dark matter, however.
  In light of this doubt, I think you might be able to get your
 investigation into doppler radar out to a wider audience if you did not
 combine it with the question of dark matter.  Adding dark matter into the
 mix asks too much of people in their suspension of disbelief for them to be
 able to give much credibility to your doppler radar hunch, even if both
 hunches ended up being true.

 Eric



 On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 5:55 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:

 Radar/Call SignMHTModel ASR-9Max Pulsed Power (Watts)1,300,000Gain (dBi)
 34Frequency (MHz)2,800RPM12.5Max Power Density (W/m2) @ 10 km 10.39Pulse
 Duration(uSec)1.00Pulse Repition Factor (Hz)1,000Range Est. (Miles)60
 Latitude42.937248 Longitude-71.437286FIPS33011CountyHillsboroughStateNH

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

2014-05-11 Thread David Roberson

The specifications for the radar system below are typical of a pulsed radar 
system and not what I would expect from a standard Doppler radar.   The duty 
cycle appears to be .1% for the unit listed whereas a Doppler radar is CW.  The 
average power is 1300 watts of RF into the antenna, I assume.  The gain of the 
antenna may be 34 dB relative to an isotropic radiator.

Someone might be thinking of a pulsed Doppler radar which measures the change 
in transmit frequency of the returning pulses to get target velocity 
information.  That type of radar is not a standard Doppler.

Dave

 

 

 

-Original Message-
From: Eric Walker eric.wal...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sun, May 11, 2014 9:18 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio


Stewart,


I have glanced at your web site.  I have not taken a close look at your 
research, but I would not be surprised if you ended up being onto something 
about doppler radar being a source of hypoxia, oxygen free radicals and the 
death of nearby animal and plant life.  You also have a theory of dark matter, 
and a hunch that dark matter is indirectly responsible for the conclusions 
concerning doppler radar that you arrive at in your informal research.


On the connection to dark matter, I personally have no opinion.  I am 
skeptical, however, that your research is sufficient to establish any kind of 
linkage between the effects of doppler radar and dark matter, however.  In 
light of this doubt, I think you might be able to get your investigation into 
doppler radar out to a wider audience if you did not combine it with the 
question of dark matter.  Adding dark matter into the mix asks too much of 
people in their suspension of disbelief for them to be able to give much 
credibility to your doppler radar hunch, even if both hunches ended up being 
true.


Eric





On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 5:55 PM, ChemE Stewart cheme...@gmail.com wrote:



Radar/Call Sign
MHT

Model
ASR-9

Max Pulsed Power (Watts)
1,300,000

Gain (dBi)
34

Frequency (MHz)
2,800

RPM
12.5

Max Power Density (W/m2) @ 10 km
10.39

Pulse Duration(uSec)
1.00

Pulse Repition Factor (Hz)
1,000

Range Est. (Miles)
60

Latitude
42.937248

Longitude
-71.437286

FIPS
33011

County
Hillsborough

State
NH

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

2014-05-08 Thread James Bowery

Just got off the phone with the author and he doesn't see any indication
Tesla was onto the vector potential -- which Maxwell called electrokinetic
momentum.

BTW:  He says Maxwell made no bones about the physical reality of
electrokinetic momentum -- he was quite clear it was physical.


On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:

   November 1922 interview in *Radio News*:

 Question : Will not wireless transmission of energy result in time in the
 moving of practically all means of transportation with electrical energy
 from central power stations?

 MR. TESLA : No, I do not expect that such will be the case, for the
 transportation systems now used present certain important practical
 advantages which cannot be disregarded.

 Question: Will not automobiles, for instance, be operated merely by the
 operative cutting in on electrical energy supplied by wireless from power
 stations?

 MR. TESLA : I fear we shall not live to see the wireless system in general
 use for this purpose. It is difficult to propel an automobile by the new
 method for reasons with which experts are familiar. Success can be much
 more easily achieved in the case of airships.



 …. Well… substitute “drone” for “airship”, and this comment is possibly
 relevant today…

 Jones

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

2014-05-07 Thread Roarty, Francis X

I am also “skeptical” but not willing to totally discount it just yet.. too 
many similarities between superconducting, fractal meta antennas and all the 
recent comments regarding the Dirac sea / ZPE / entanglement/ spooky action at 
a distance / spins cancelling 1D singlets, ect, ect… even the anomalous energy 
claims can be viewed as employing this same sort of linkage to a non physical 
dimension to unbalance normal physics and provide a caveat to COE. IMHO normal 
energy balance can be exploited when one set of the reactants is undergoing 
Lorentzian transformation which is what must occur if you push anything 
physical into a different dimension because the remaining material still seeks 
an  “opposite and equal reaction in 3D” or even thru field linkage just 
“pushing” against something we perceive as non physical like virtual particles 
that are outside of our normal 3D [which is what I envision Casimir and London 
forces based upon by modifying vacuum pressure/density they extend or shorten 
the window of VP intersecting with our 3D].  I did note there wasn’t any claim 
of FTL comm rate which would also be expected if this method bypasses the 
inverse square law for radiation.
Fran

From: David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 1:03 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

I am skeptical of this one James.

It has always amazed me how a tsunami can travel at hundreds of miles per hour 
across the open sea while normal sea waves move much slower.  Something of a 
similar nature might occur with electromagnetic waves as far as I know.   Could 
this system work in a similar fashion with radio waves?

Lets see the evidence that these guys have really found something new and not 
just another method of viewing the same old phenomena.

Dave



-Original Message-
From: James Bowery jabow...@gmail.commailto:jabow...@gmail.com
To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.commailto:vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Wed, May 7, 2014 12:52 am
Subject: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio


New Radio Wave Requires No Transmitter 
Power!http://www.lbagroup.com/blog/new-radio-wave-requires-no-transmitter-power/

McMaster Professor Natalia Nikolova and her husband Robert ZimmermanMcMaster 
research engineer Professor Natalia Nikolova, and her husband Robert Zimmerman, 
have verified the existence of a new type of radio wave called the Vector 
Potential Wave. This wave was first predicted in 1880 by British mathematician 
James Clerk Maxwell, but had never been directly detected until this summer 
here on McMaster campus in the Communications Research Lab.
Dr. Nikolova comments, “One of the most enigmatic predictions of Maxwell was 
his concept of the magnetic vector potential. Until recently most engineers 
believed it was only a mathematical concept with no physical reality. Now, more 
than 125 years later, we have realized a magnetic vector potential detector 
which allows measuring the wave at any distance from a microwave antenna.”
Nikolova and her husband have been working on this development nearly 2 years. 
Zimmerman feels that the new discovery will ultimately lead to radio and 
television transmissions which do not require energy. On a more fundamental 
level, he added, “Maxwell was correct all along.”
The novelty of the discovery is that while the transmission requires very 
little energy, the reception of the wave requires that an active battery 
operated receiver be used. This is distinct from usual AM radio transmissions, 
where much energy is radiated by the transmitter, and the receiver can be a 
‘crystal set’ with no battery.
The detector developed by the research team is a plasma device looking like a 
fluorescent tube which displays super-conducting properties for radio signals. 
Nikolova is quick to add, “The device is at room temperature but acts like a 
superconductor, as predicted by Fritz London in 1930.”
Nikolova and Zimmerman plan on submitting their results this week to the 
research journal The Physical Review of the American Physical Society.
Zimmerman is a former Director of Engineering of LBA 
Technologyhttp://www.lbagroup.com/technology/index.php.

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

2014-05-07 Thread ChemE Stewart

It would be great if correct.  We are pulsing over 600 Million Watts of
microwave radiation (2.0-6.0 GHz) into the atmosphere 24/7 with just our
Doppler FAA, Weather and Military Radars.

If anybody wants a copy of my Google Earth US microwave radar database I
have worked on for 4 months you can download it at the following link,
latest at the bottom

https://productforums.google.com/forum/embed/#!topic/gec-dynamic-data-layers/VKAkuBNWtC8

My research/theory was just written up in a Florida Today news article
(along with a few other theories)

http://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/local/environment/lagoon/2014/05/03/indian-river-lagoon-went-wrong/8672245/

I have statistics across the State of Florida showing a strong correlation
between locations of pulsed Doppler microwave radar towers and diseased
wildlife.  Others are taking my database and looking at human health
statistics.

I am pretty sure all of the electromagnetic radiation is interacting with
the vacuum in our atmosphere, causing ducting and anomalous
reflections and being redirected/attenuated/bent and radiated back through
our headswhich is generally not a good thing.

Stewart
darkmattersalot.com











On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 7:58 AM, Roarty, Francis X francis.x.roa...@lmco.com
 wrote:

  I am also “skeptical” but not willing to totally discount it just yet..
 too many similarities between superconducting, fractal meta antennas and
 all the recent comments regarding the Dirac sea / ZPE / entanglement/
 spooky action at a distance / spins cancelling 1D singlets, ect, ect… even
 the anomalous energy claims can be viewed as employing this same sort of
 linkage to a non physical dimension to unbalance normal physics and provide
 a caveat to COE. IMHO normal energy balance can be exploited when one set
 of the reactants is undergoing Lorentzian transformation which is what must
 occur if you push anything physical into a different dimension because the
 remaining material still seeks an  “opposite and equal reaction in 3D” or
 even thru field linkage just “pushing” against something we perceive as non
 physical like virtual particles that are outside of our normal 3D [which is
 what I envision Casimir and London forces based upon by modifying vacuum
 pressure/density they extend or shorten the window of VP intersecting with
 our 3D].  I did note there wasn’t any claim of FTL comm rate which would
 also be expected if this method bypasses the inverse square law for
 radiation.

 Fran



 *From:* David Roberson [mailto:dlrober...@aol.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 07, 2014 1:03 AM
 *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
 *Subject:* EXTERNAL: Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio



 I am skeptical of this one James.

 It has always amazed me how a tsunami can travel at hundreds of miles per
 hour across the open sea while normal sea waves move much slower.
 Something of a similar nature might occur with electromagnetic waves as far
 as I know.   Could this system work in a similar fashion with radio waves?

 Lets see the evidence that these guys have really found something new and
 not just another method of viewing the same old phenomena.

 Dave







 -Original Message-
 From: James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com
 To: vortex-l vortex-l@eskimo.com
 Sent: Wed, May 7, 2014 12:52 am
 Subject: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio



 New Radio Wave Requires No Transmitter 
 Power!http://www.lbagroup.com/blog/new-radio-wave-requires-no-transmitter-power/



 McMaster Professor Natalia Nikolova and her husband Robert
 ZimmermanMcMaster research engineer Professor Natalia Nikolova, and her
 husband Robert Zimmerman, have verified the existence of a new type of
 radio wave called the Vector Potential Wave. This wave was first predicted
 in 1880 by British mathematician James Clerk Maxwell, but had never been
 directly detected until this summer here on McMaster campus in the
 Communications Research Lab.

 Dr. Nikolova comments, “One of the most enigmatic predictions of Maxwell
 was his concept of the magnetic vector potential. Until recently most
 engineers believed it was only a mathematical concept with no physical
 reality. Now, more than 125 years later, we have realized a magnetic vector
 potential detector which allows measuring the wave at any distance from a
 microwave antenna.”

 Nikolova and her husband have been working on this development nearly 2
 years. Zimmerman feels that the new discovery will ultimately lead to radio
 and television transmissions which do not require energy. On a more
 fundamental level, he added, “Maxwell was correct all along.”

 The novelty of the discovery is that while the transmission requires very
 little energy, the reception of the wave requires that an active battery
 operated receiver be used. This is distinct from usual AM radio
 transmissions, where much energy is radiated by the transmitter, and the
 receiver can be a ‘crystal set’ with no battery.

 The detector developed by the research team is a plasma device

RE: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

This is what Tesla supposedly accomplished in Long Island at the Wardenclyffe 
Tower a hundred years ago. He was said to have driven a converted car around 
which was powered by the transmission. 

 

Of course, this would suggest that if “vector potential waves” are the source 
of that power, then instead of an inverse square fall-off from the transmitter, 
there is a directed wave focusing effect - with much less diminution… which is 
what Tesla thought was happening.

 

As I recall – there are skeptics who doubt this story… but the Canadian’s may 
have rediscovered it. Their patent 

 

https://www.google.com/patents/US8165531

 

From: Roarty, Francis X 

 

I am also “skeptical” but not willing to totally discount it just yet.. too 
many similarities between superconducting, fractal meta antennas and all the 
recent comments regarding the Dirac sea / ZPE / entanglement/ spooky action at 
a distance / spins cancelling 1D singlets, 

 

From: David Roberson 

 

I am skeptical of this one James.

It has always amazed me how a tsunami can travel at hundreds of miles per hour 
across the open sea while normal sea waves move much slower.  Something of a 
similar nature might occur with electromagnetic waves as far as I know.   Could 
this system work in a similar fashion with radio waves?

Lets see the evidence that these guys have really found something new and not 
just another method of viewing the same old phenomena.

Dave

 

-Original Message-
From: James Bowery 
New Radio Wave Requires No Transmitter Power! 
http://www.lbagroup.com/blog/new-radio-wave-requires-no-transmitter-power/ 

 

McMaster Professor Natalia Nikolova and her husband Robert ZimmermanMcMaster 
research engineer Professor Natalia Nikolova, and her husband Robert Zimmerman, 
have verified the existence of a new type of radio wave called the Vector 
Potential Wave. This wave was first predicted in 1880 by British mathematician 
James Clerk Maxwell, but had never been directly detected until this summer 
here on McMaster campus in the Communications Research Lab.

Dr. Nikolova comments, “One of the most enigmatic predictions of Maxwell was 
his concept of the magnetic vector potential. Until recently most engineers 
believed it was only a mathematical concept with no physical reality. Now, more 
than 125 years later, we have realized a magnetic vector potential detector 
which allows measuring the wave at any distance from a microwave antenna.”

Nikolova and her husband have been working on this development nearly 2 years. 
Zimmerman feels that the new discovery will ultimately lead to radio and 
television transmissions which do not require energy. On a more fundamental 
level, he added, “Maxwell was correct all along.”

The novelty of the discovery is that while the transmission requires very 
little energy, the reception of the wave requires that an active battery 
operated receiver be used. This is distinct from usual AM radio transmissions, 
where much energy is radiated by the transmitter, and the receiver can be a 
‘crystal set’ with no battery.

The detector developed by the research team is a plasma device looking like a 
fluorescent tube which displays super-conducting properties for radio signals. 
Nikolova is quick to add, “The device is at room temperature but acts like a 
superconductor, as predicted by Fritz London in 1930.”

Nikolova and Zimmerman plan on submitting their results this week to the 
research journal The Physical Review of the American Physical Society.

Zimmerman is a former Director of Engineering of  
http://www.lbagroup.com/technology/index.php LBA Technology.

RE: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

… should have mentioned that the Vector Potential story and patent are not new. 
Since they have had this technology in place since 2008, if it were to be are 
real breakthrough, then it is moving very slowly to market.

 

This is what Tesla supposedly accomplished in Long Island at the Wardenclyffe 
Tower a hundred years ago. He was said to have driven a converted car around 
which was powered by the transmission. 

 

Of course, this would suggest that if “vector potential waves” are the source 
of that power, then instead of an inverse square fall-off from the transmitter, 
there is a directed wave focusing effect - with much less diminution… which is 
what Tesla thought was happening.

 

As I recall – there are skeptics who doubt this story… but the Canadian’s may 
have rediscovered it. Their patent 

 

https://www.google.com/patents/US8165531

 

From: Roarty, Francis X 

 

I am also “skeptical” but not willing to totally discount it just yet.. too 
many similarities between superconducting, fractal meta antennas and all the 
recent comments regarding the Dirac sea / ZPE / entanglement/ spooky action at 
a distance / spins cancelling 1D singlets, 

 

From: David Roberson 

 

I am skeptical of this one James.

It has always amazed me how a tsunami can travel at hundreds of miles per hour 
across the open sea while normal sea waves move much slower.  Something of a 
similar nature might occur with electromagnetic waves as far as I know.   Could 
this system work in a similar fashion with radio waves?

Lets see the evidence that these guys have really found something new and not 
just another method of viewing the same old phenomena.

Dave

 

-Original Message-
From: James Bowery 
New Radio Wave Requires No Transmitter Power! 
http://www.lbagroup.com/blog/new-radio-wave-requires-no-transmitter-power/ 

 

McMaster Professor Natalia Nikolova and her husband Robert ZimmermanMcMaster 
research engineer Professor Natalia Nikolova, and her husband Robert Zimmerman, 
have verified the existence of a new type of radio wave called the Vector 
Potential Wave. This wave was first predicted in 1880 by British mathematician 
James Clerk Maxwell, but had never been directly detected until this summer 
here on McMaster campus in the Communications Research Lab.

Dr. Nikolova comments, “One of the most enigmatic predictions of Maxwell was 
his concept of the magnetic vector potential. Until recently most engineers 
believed it was only a mathematical concept with no physical reality. Now, more 
than 125 years later, we have realized a magnetic vector potential detector 
which allows measuring the wave at any distance from a microwave antenna.”

Nikolova and her husband have been working on this development nearly 2 years. 
Zimmerman feels that the new discovery will ultimately lead to radio and 
television transmissions which do not require energy. On a more fundamental 
level, he added, “Maxwell was correct all along.”

The novelty of the discovery is that while the transmission requires very 
little energy, the reception of the wave requires that an active battery 
operated receiver be used. This is distinct from usual AM radio transmissions, 
where much energy is radiated by the transmitter, and the receiver can be a 
‘crystal set’ with no battery.

The detector developed by the research team is a plasma device looking like a 
fluorescent tube which displays super-conducting properties for radio signals. 
Nikolova is quick to add, “The device is at room temperature but acts like a 
superconductor, as predicted by Fritz London in 1930.”

Nikolova and Zimmerman plan on submitting their results this week to the 
research journal The Physical Review of the American Physical Society.

Zimmerman is a former Director of Engineering of  
http://www.lbagroup.com/technology/index.php LBA Technology.

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

Experimental results with plasma.

Reception of longitudinal vector potential radiation with a plasma
antennahttp://www.deepdyve.com/lp/american-institute-of-physics/reception-of-longitudinal-vector-potential-radiation-with-a-plasma-mXGude67Ol?articleList=%2Fsearch%3Fquery%3Dexperiments%2Bwith%2Bmagnetic%2Bvector%2Bpotential
Zimmerman, Robert
K.http://www.deepdyve.com/search?author=Zimmerman%2C+Robert+K.
 Journal of Applied
Physicshttp://www.deepdyve.com/browse/journals/journal-of-applied-physics
 , Volume 114 (4) – Jul 28, 2013


I'm currently in communication with the author regarding a graphene
experiment.

Also, of interest to LENR:

Three-Dimensional Study of the Vector Potential ofMagnetic
Structureshttp://www.deepdyve.com/lp/american-physical-society-aps/three-dimensional-study-of-the-vector-potential-of-magnetic-structures-AM9UOWrnU7?articleList=%2Fsearch%3Fquery%3Dexperiments%2Bwith%2Bmagnetic%2Bvector%2Bpotential
Phatak, Charudattahttp://www.deepdyve.com/search?author=Phatak%2C+Charudatta
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The vector potential is central to a number of areas of condensed matter
physics, such as superconductivity and magnetism.



On Tue, May 6, 2014 at 11:52 PM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:



 New Radio Wave Requires No Transmitter 
 Power!http://www.lbagroup.com/blog/new-radio-wave-requires-no-transmitter-power/

 McMaster Professor Natalia Nikolova and her husband Robert
 ZimmermanMcMaster research engineer Professor Natalia Nikolova, and her
 husband Robert Zimmerman, have verified the existence of a new type of
 radio wave called the Vector Potential Wave. This wave was first predicted
 in 1880 by British mathematician James Clerk Maxwell, but had never been
 directly detected until this summer here on McMaster campus in the
 Communications Research Lab.

  Dr. Nikolova comments, “One of the most enigmatic predictions of Maxwell
 was his concept of the magnetic vector potential. Until recently most
 engineers believed it was only a mathematical concept with no physical
 reality. Now, more than 125 years later, we have realized a magnetic vector
 potential detector which allows measuring the wave at any distance from a
 microwave antenna.”

 Nikolova and her husband have been working on this development nearly 2
 years. Zimmerman feels that the new discovery will ultimately lead to radio
 and television transmissions which do not require energy. On a more
 fundamental level, he added, “Maxwell was correct all along.”

 The novelty of the discovery is that while the transmission requires very
 little energy, the reception of the wave requires that an active battery
 operated receiver be used. This is distinct from usual AM radio
 transmissions, where much energy is radiated by the transmitter, and the
 receiver can be a ‘crystal set’ with no battery.

 The detector developed by the research team is a plasma device looking
 like a fluorescent tube which displays super-conducting properties for
 radio signals. Nikolova is quick to add, “The device is at room temperature
 but acts like a superconductor, as predicted by Fritz London in 1930.”

 Nikolova and Zimmerman plan on submitting their results this week to the
 research journal *The Physical Review* of the American Physical Society.

 Zimmerman is a former Director of Engineering of LBA 
 Technologyhttp://www.lbagroup.com/technology/index.php
 .

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

Jones, I don't know if you have been involved with raising money for
technology recently, but it is very difficult to get the attention of
investors if you aren't offering some kind of rent-seeking exploit such as the
network effect http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect.


On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:

  … should have mentioned that the Vector Potential story and patent are
 not new. Since they have had this technology in place since 2008, if it
 were to be are real breakthrough, then it is moving very slowly to market.



 This is what Tesla supposedly accomplished in Long Island at the
 Wardenclyffe Tower a hundred years ago. He was said to have driven a
 converted car around which was powered by the transmission.



 Of course, this would suggest that if “vector potential waves” are the
 source of that power, then instead of an inverse square fall-off from the
 transmitter, there is a directed wave focusing effect - with much less
 diminution… which is what Tesla thought was happening.



 As I recall – there are skeptics who doubt this story… but the Canadian’s
 may have rediscovered it. Their patent



 https://www.google.com/patents/US8165531



 *From:* Roarty, Francis X



 I am also “skeptical” but not willing to totally discount it just yet..
 too many similarities between superconducting, fractal meta antennas and
 all the recent comments regarding the Dirac sea / ZPE / entanglement/
 spooky action at a distance / spins cancelling 1D singlets,



 *From:* David Roberson



 I am skeptical of this one James.

 It has always amazed me how a tsunami can travel at hundreds of miles per
 hour across the open sea while normal sea waves move much slower.
 Something of a similar nature might occur with electromagnetic waves as far
 as I know.   Could this system work in a similar fashion with radio waves?

 Lets see the evidence that these guys have really found something new and
 not just another method of viewing the same old phenomena.

 Dave



 -Original Message-
 From: James Bowery
 New Radio Wave Requires No Transmitter 
 Power!http://www.lbagroup.com/blog/new-radio-wave-requires-no-transmitter-power/



 McMaster Professor Natalia Nikolova and her husband Robert
 ZimmermanMcMaster research engineer Professor Natalia Nikolova, and her
 husband Robert Zimmerman, have verified the existence of a new type of
 radio wave called the Vector Potential Wave. This wave was first predicted
 in 1880 by British mathematician James Clerk Maxwell, but had never been
 directly detected until this summer here on McMaster campus in the
 Communications Research Lab.

 Dr. Nikolova comments, “One of the most enigmatic predictions of Maxwell
 was his concept of the magnetic vector potential. Until recently most
 engineers believed it was only a mathematical concept with no physical
 reality. Now, more than 125 years later, we have realized a magnetic vector
 potential detector which allows measuring the wave at any distance from a
 microwave antenna.”

 Nikolova and her husband have been working on this development nearly 2
 years. Zimmerman feels that the new discovery will ultimately lead to radio
 and television transmissions which do not require energy. On a more
 fundamental level, he added, “Maxwell was correct all along.”

 The novelty of the discovery is that while the transmission requires very
 little energy, the reception of the wave requires that an active battery
 operated receiver be used. This is distinct from usual AM radio
 transmissions, where much energy is radiated by the transmitter, and the
 receiver can be a ‘crystal set’ with no battery.

 The detector developed by the research team is a plasma device looking
 like a fluorescent tube which displays super-conducting properties for
 radio signals. Nikolova is quick to add, “The device is at room temperature
 but acts like a superconductor, as predicted by Fritz London in 1930.”

 Nikolova and Zimmerman plan on submitting their results this week to the
 research journal *The Physical Review* of the American Physical Society.

 Zimmerman is a former Director of Engineering of LBA 
 Technologyhttp://www.lbagroup.com/technology/index.php
 .

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

Here's an example of how pathological the capital markets are:

These guys are, and have for some time been, sitting on a technology that
reverses neural damage, including both motor and cognitive deficits
(including age related cognitive decline -- which should be of interest in
an aging developed world where retirement is receding into the future for
many while jobs are more and more demanding of cognitive function), because
investors don't like patents that have been assigned to universities --
they want the inventor to be in a position where the inventor can't service
the patent fees and universities often have their own legal staff for this:

http://vimeo.com/89795497

Pay particular attention to the passage where he talks about all the
various kinds of neural damage they inflicted and all of them reversible.

The graphs of time through water mazes show a decrease in time with degree
of treatment even for aged animals.

Also there is a pretty impressive video of rats where the brain damaged
rat, after treatment, actually outperforms the normal rat.  These changes
are persistent.


On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:34 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:

 Jones, I don't know if you have been involved with raising money for
 technology recently, but it is very difficult to get the attention of
 investors if you aren't offering some kind of rent-seeking exploit such as the
 network effect http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect.


 On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:

  … should have mentioned that the Vector Potential story and patent are
 not new. Since they have had this technology in place since 2008, if it
 were to be are real breakthrough, then it is moving very slowly to market.



 This is what Tesla supposedly accomplished in Long Island at the
 Wardenclyffe Tower a hundred years ago. He was said to have driven a
 converted car around which was powered by the transmission.



 Of course, this would suggest that if “vector potential waves” are the
 source of that power, then instead of an inverse square fall-off from the
 transmitter, there is a directed wave focusing effect - with much less
 diminution… which is what Tesla thought was happening.



 As I recall – there are skeptics who doubt this story… but the Canadian’s
 may have rediscovered it. Their patent



 https://www.google.com/patents/US8165531



 *From:* Roarty, Francis X



 I am also “skeptical” but not willing to totally discount it just yet..
 too many similarities between superconducting, fractal meta antennas and
 all the recent comments regarding the Dirac sea / ZPE / entanglement/
 spooky action at a distance / spins cancelling 1D singlets,



 *From:* David Roberson



 I am skeptical of this one James.

 It has always amazed me how a tsunami can travel at hundreds of miles per
 hour across the open sea while normal sea waves move much slower.
 Something of a similar nature might occur with electromagnetic waves as far
 as I know.   Could this system work in a similar fashion with radio waves?

 Lets see the evidence that these guys have really found something new and
 not just another method of viewing the same old phenomena.

 Dave



 -Original Message-
 From: James Bowery
 New Radio Wave Requires No Transmitter 
 Power!http://www.lbagroup.com/blog/new-radio-wave-requires-no-transmitter-power/



 McMaster Professor Natalia Nikolova and her husband Robert
 ZimmermanMcMaster research engineer Professor Natalia Nikolova, and her
 husband Robert Zimmerman, have verified the existence of a new type of
 radio wave called the Vector Potential Wave. This wave was first predicted
 in 1880 by British mathematician James Clerk Maxwell, but had never been
 directly detected until this summer here on McMaster campus in the
 Communications Research Lab.

 Dr. Nikolova comments, “One of the most enigmatic predictions of Maxwell
 was his concept of the magnetic vector potential. Until recently most
 engineers believed it was only a mathematical concept with no physical
 reality. Now, more than 125 years later, we have realized a magnetic vector
 potential detector which allows measuring the wave at any distance from a
 microwave antenna.”

 Nikolova and her husband have been working on this development nearly 2
 years. Zimmerman feels that the new discovery will ultimately lead to radio
 and television transmissions which do not require energy. On a more
 fundamental level, he added, “Maxwell was correct all along.”

 The novelty of the discovery is that while the transmission requires very
 little energy, the reception of the wave requires that an active battery
 operated receiver be used. This is distinct from usual AM radio
 transmissions, where much energy is radiated by the transmitter, and the
 receiver can be a ‘crystal set’ with no battery.

 The detector developed by the research team is a plasma device looking
 like a fluorescent tube which displays super-conducting properties for

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

Here's another technology that has been ready to go into production but
languishing since
2009http://jimbowery.blogspot.com/2014/05/greenhouses-are-not-next-green.htmlthat,
as a minor side effect, solves the oil crisis.  Its real benefit is
that it reduces the ecological footprint of civilization to near
zero.obsolete.


On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:34 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com wrote:

 Jones, I don't know if you have been involved with raising money for
 technology recently, but it is very difficult to get the attention of
 investors if you aren't offering some kind of rent-seeking exploit such as the
 network effect http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_effect.


 On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:

  … should have mentioned that the Vector Potential story and patent are
 not new. Since they have had this technology in place since 2008, if it
 were to be are real breakthrough, then it is moving very slowly to market.



 This is what Tesla supposedly accomplished in Long Island at the
 Wardenclyffe Tower a hundred years ago. He was said to have driven a
 converted car around which was powered by the transmission.



 Of course, this would suggest that if “vector potential waves” are the
 source of that power, then instead of an inverse square fall-off from the
 transmitter, there is a directed wave focusing effect - with much less
 diminution… which is what Tesla thought was happening.



 As I recall – there are skeptics who doubt this story… but the Canadian’s
 may have rediscovered it. Their patent



 https://www.google.com/patents/US8165531



 *From:* Roarty, Francis X



 I am also “skeptical” but not willing to totally discount it just yet..
 too many similarities between superconducting, fractal meta antennas and
 all the recent comments regarding the Dirac sea / ZPE / entanglement/
 spooky action at a distance / spins cancelling 1D singlets,



 *From:* David Roberson



 I am skeptical of this one James.

 It has always amazed me how a tsunami can travel at hundreds of miles per
 hour across the open sea while normal sea waves move much slower.
 Something of a similar nature might occur with electromagnetic waves as far
 as I know.   Could this system work in a similar fashion with radio waves?

 Lets see the evidence that these guys have really found something new and
 not just another method of viewing the same old phenomena.

 Dave



 -Original Message-
 From: James Bowery
 New Radio Wave Requires No Transmitter 
 Power!http://www.lbagroup.com/blog/new-radio-wave-requires-no-transmitter-power/



 McMaster Professor Natalia Nikolova and her husband Robert
 ZimmermanMcMaster research engineer Professor Natalia Nikolova, and her
 husband Robert Zimmerman, have verified the existence of a new type of
 radio wave called the Vector Potential Wave. This wave was first predicted
 in 1880 by British mathematician James Clerk Maxwell, but had never been
 directly detected until this summer here on McMaster campus in the
 Communications Research Lab.

 Dr. Nikolova comments, “One of the most enigmatic predictions of Maxwell
 was his concept of the magnetic vector potential. Until recently most
 engineers believed it was only a mathematical concept with no physical
 reality. Now, more than 125 years later, we have realized a magnetic vector
 potential detector which allows measuring the wave at any distance from a
 microwave antenna.”

 Nikolova and her husband have been working on this development nearly 2
 years. Zimmerman feels that the new discovery will ultimately lead to radio
 and television transmissions which do not require energy. On a more
 fundamental level, he added, “Maxwell was correct all along.”

 The novelty of the discovery is that while the transmission requires very
 little energy, the reception of the wave requires that an active battery
 operated receiver be used. This is distinct from usual AM radio
 transmissions, where much energy is radiated by the transmitter, and the
 receiver can be a ‘crystal set’ with no battery.

 The detector developed by the research team is a plasma device looking
 like a fluorescent tube which displays super-conducting properties for
 radio signals. Nikolova is quick to add, “The device is at room temperature
 but acts like a superconductor, as predicted by Fritz London in 1930.”

 Nikolova and Zimmerman plan on submitting their results this week to the
 research journal *The Physical Review* of the American Physical Society.

 Zimmerman is a former Director of Engineering of LBA 
 Technologyhttp://www.lbagroup.com/technology/index.php
 .

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

2014-05-07 Thread Bob Cook

We have not discussed the  Aharonov-Bohm effect to my knowledge as a mechanism 
for transmission of energy from NAE in the LENR recent discussions.  It may 
create another magnetic coupling mechanism in the solid state.  This effect is 
discussed in the Canadian's patent and demonstrates the existence of the 
magnetic wave which has a magnetic A vector potential and a PHI electric scalar 
potential with the A vector pointing along the direction of the propagation 
which also, I think occurs at the speed of light in a vacuum.  I do not 
remember what the rules are for the speed of the wave in a medium.  

Do we have a new coupling mechanism for energy transfer in LENR systems because 
of the design of the transmitters and receivers in the Nano structures?

Bob


  - Original Message - 
  From: Jones Beene 
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 7:08 AM
  Subject: RE: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio


  This is what Tesla supposedly accomplished in Long Island at the Wardenclyffe 
Tower a hundred years ago. He was said to have driven a converted car around 
which was powered by the transmission. 

   

  Of course, this would suggest that if “vector potential waves” are the source 
of that power, then instead of an inverse square fall-off from the transmitter, 
there is a directed wave focusing effect - with much less diminution… which is 
what Tesla thought was happening.

   

  As I recall – there are skeptics who doubt this story… but the Canadian’s may 
have rediscovered it. Their patent 

   

  https://www.google.com/patents/US8165531

   

  From: Roarty, Francis X 

   

  I am also “skeptical” but not willing to totally discount it just yet.. too 
many similarities between superconducting, fractal meta antennas and all the 
recent comments regarding the Dirac sea / ZPE / entanglement/ spooky action at 
a distance / spins cancelling 1D singlets, 

   

  From: David Roberson 

   

  I am skeptical of this one James.

  It has always amazed me how a tsunami can travel at hundreds of miles per 
hour across the open sea while normal sea waves move much slower.  Something of 
a similar nature might occur with electromagnetic waves as far as I know.   
Could this system work in a similar fashion with radio waves?

  Lets see the evidence that these guys have really found something new and not 
just another method of viewing the same old phenomena.

  Dave

   

  -Original Message-
  From: James Bowery 
  New Radio Wave Requires No Transmitter Power!

   

  McMaster Professor Natalia Nikolova and her husband Robert ZimmermanMcMaster 
research engineer Professor Natalia Nikolova, and her husband Robert Zimmerman, 
have verified the existence of a new type of radio wave called the Vector 
Potential Wave. This wave was first predicted in 1880 by British mathematician 
James Clerk Maxwell, but had never been directly detected until this summer 
here on McMaster campus in the Communications Research Lab.

  Dr. Nikolova comments, “One of the most enigmatic predictions of Maxwell was 
his concept of the magnetic vector potential. Until recently most engineers 
believed it was only a mathematical concept with no physical reality. Now, more 
than 125 years later, we have realized a magnetic vector potential detector 
which allows measuring the wave at any distance from a microwave antenna.”

  Nikolova and her husband have been working on this development nearly 2 
years. Zimmerman feels that the new discovery will ultimately lead to radio and 
television transmissions which do not require energy. On a more fundamental 
level, he added, “Maxwell was correct all along.”

  The novelty of the discovery is that while the transmission requires very 
little energy, the reception of the wave requires that an active battery 
operated receiver be used. This is distinct from usual AM radio transmissions, 
where much energy is radiated by the transmitter, and the receiver can be a 
‘crystal set’ with no battery.

  The detector developed by the research team is a plasma device looking like a 
fluorescent tube which displays super-conducting properties for radio signals. 
Nikolova is quick to add, “The device is at room temperature but acts like a 
superconductor, as predicted by Fritz London in 1930.”

  Nikolova and Zimmerman plan on submitting their results this week to the 
research journal The Physical Review of the American Physical Society.

  Zimmerman is a former Director of Engineering of LBA Technology.

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

2014-05-07 Thread Stefan Israelsson Tampe

Interesting,

I always thought that the potentials are very fundamental and physical. It
is possible to get a clear picture of what EM is by looking at the
mathematical structure of plane waves for the potentials in Maxwell's
equations (Lorenz gauge). If you haven't done that and are experienced in
vector analysis it's a great play to take on that exercise. In short for a
plane wave one can interpret the vector potential as a sort of kinetic flow
in that direction and the scalar potential as just that the potential
energy in that point e.g. the disturbance at the point. The simplicity
interpreting this set of equations has always (for me) spoken for them
actually being more physical that what typically engineers admit.



On Wed, May 7, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote:

  This is what Tesla supposedly accomplished in Long Island at the
 Wardenclyffe Tower a hundred years ago. He was said to have driven a
 converted car around which was powered by the transmission.



 Of course, this would suggest that if “vector potential waves” are the
 source of that power, then instead of an inverse square fall-off from the
 transmitter, there is a directed wave focusing effect - with much less
 diminution… which is what Tesla thought was happening.



 As I recall – there are skeptics who doubt this story… but the Canadian’s
 may have rediscovered it. Their patent



 https://www.google.com/patents/US8165531



 *From:* Roarty, Francis X



 I am also “skeptical” but not willing to totally discount it just yet..
 too many similarities between superconducting, fractal meta antennas and
 all the recent comments regarding the Dirac sea / ZPE / entanglement/
 spooky action at a distance / spins cancelling 1D singlets,



 *From:* David Roberson



 I am skeptical of this one James.

 It has always amazed me how a tsunami can travel at hundreds of miles per
 hour across the open sea while normal sea waves move much slower.
 Something of a similar nature might occur with electromagnetic waves as far
 as I know.   Could this system work in a similar fashion with radio waves?

 Lets see the evidence that these guys have really found something new and
 not just another method of viewing the same old phenomena.

 Dave



 -Original Message-
 From: James Bowery
 New Radio Wave Requires No Transmitter 
 Power!http://www.lbagroup.com/blog/new-radio-wave-requires-no-transmitter-power/



 McMaster Professor Natalia Nikolova and her husband Robert
 ZimmermanMcMaster research engineer Professor Natalia Nikolova, and her
 husband Robert Zimmerman, have verified the existence of a new type of
 radio wave called the Vector Potential Wave. This wave was first predicted
 in 1880 by British mathematician James Clerk Maxwell, but had never been
 directly detected until this summer here on McMaster campus in the
 Communications Research Lab.

 Dr. Nikolova comments, “One of the most enigmatic predictions of Maxwell
 was his concept of the magnetic vector potential. Until recently most
 engineers believed it was only a mathematical concept with no physical
 reality. Now, more than 125 years later, we have realized a magnetic vector
 potential detector which allows measuring the wave at any distance from a
 microwave antenna.”

 Nikolova and her husband have been working on this development nearly 2
 years. Zimmerman feels that the new discovery will ultimately lead to radio
 and television transmissions which do not require energy. On a more
 fundamental level, he added, “Maxwell was correct all along.”

 The novelty of the discovery is that while the transmission requires very
 little energy, the reception of the wave requires that an active battery
 operated receiver be used. This is distinct from usual AM radio
 transmissions, where much energy is radiated by the transmitter, and the
 receiver can be a ‘crystal set’ with no battery.

 The detector developed by the research team is a plasma device looking
 like a fluorescent tube which displays super-conducting properties for
 radio signals. Nikolova is quick to add, “The device is at room temperature
 but acts like a superconductor, as predicted by Fritz London in 1930.”

 Nikolova and Zimmerman plan on submitting their results this week to the
 research journal *The Physical Review* of the American Physical Society.

 Zimmerman is a former Director of Engineering of LBA 
 Technologyhttp://www.lbagroup.com/technology/index.php
 .

RE: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

Let me add one other curious detail, even if a bit strained. 

Zimmerman’s “antenna” is a plasma tube, correct? This kind of tube often has
hydrogen content. Thus - there is the remote possibility of an LENR energy
anomaly connection – aside from any other anomaly related to the novelty of
the wave.

It would be most ironic if this was true, and even more so if the inventor
was related to the other Robert Zimmerman :-)  (noted skeptic of LENR)

James probably would have mentioned that, if it were true – but
“synchronicity” often strikes in triplicate …

From: Stefan Israelsson Tampe  Bob Cook

… In short for a plane wave one can interpret the vector
potential as a sort of kinetic flow in that direction and the scalar
potential as just that the potential energy in that point e.g. the
disturbance at the point. The simplicity interpreting this set of equations
has always (for me) spoken for them actually being more physical that what
typically engineers admit….

BC: We have not discussed the Aharonov-Bohm effect … as a
mechanism for transmission of energy from … LENR recent discussions.  It may
create another magnetic coupling mechanism in the solid state… Do we have a
new coupling mechanism for energy transfer in LENR systems because of the
design of the transmitters and receivers in the Nano structures?
https://www.google.com/patents/US8165531
 

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RE: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio

November 1922 interview in Radio News:

Question : Will not wireless transmission of energy result in time in the 
moving of practically all means of transportation with electrical energy from 
central power stations?

MR. TESLA : No, I do not expect that such will be the case, for the 
transportation systems now used present certain important practical advantages 
which cannot be disregarded.

Question: Will not automobiles, for instance, be operated merely by the 
operative cutting in on electrical energy supplied by wireless from power 
stations?

MR. TESLA : I fear we shall not live to see the wireless system in general use 
for this purpose. It is difficult to propel an automobile by the new method for 
reasons with which experts are familiar. Success can be much more easily 
achieved in the case of airships.

 

…. Well… substitute “drone” for “airship”, and this comment is possibly 
relevant today…

Jones

Re: [Vo]:Vector Potential Wave Radio