Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia and a new Wikipedia project

[Info WorldUniversity]

Denny, and Wikimedians,

How to maintain the diversity of contributions, edits, individual knowledge
generators / writers, et al, on the human side of Wikipedia, by many
different language communities if these were to grow, I wonder? Is this
already part of your proposal, which I haven't come across yet? Thank you
for this great development!

Cheers,
Scott



On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 5:49 PM Denny Vrandečić  wrote:

> Elevator pitch:
>
> Many Wikipedia language editions have large gaps in knowledge. We want to
> close these gaps by allowing to create and maintain content in one place
> and allow the Wikipedias to use this content if they choose so, instead of
> doing that in each of the Wikipedia language editions individually. This
> will allow more people to access and create more knowledge in more
> languages in the Wikipedias.
>
> In order to do this, we need to represent the content in a way that can be
> translated to many different natural languages with high fidelity. We do
> this by introducing a new project that allows to create, maintain,
> catalogue and evaluate functions as a new form of knowledge the communities
> work on. This will allow completely new use cases, and allow more people to
> share in more forms of knowledge than today.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 2:48 PM Andy Mabbett 
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 14 Apr 2020 at 01:52, Denny Vrandečić 
> wrote:
> >
> > > As some of you know, I have been working on the idea of a multilingual
> > > Wikipedia for a few years now.
> >
> > What's the elevator pitch for this?
> >
> >
> > --
> > Andy Mabbett
> > @pigsonthewing
> > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia and a new Wikipedia project

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Hi Denny, Markus, and Wikimedians / Wikidatans,

Thanks so much for this momentous next step in Wikipedia & Wikidata's ~300
languages, and for this great overview "Keynote by Denny Vrandečić at
SWAT4HCLS 2019" https://youtu.be/yzVA7YLwhTE  & thanks too for mentioning
the evolution of Wikipedia's medical content (at 21 mins.) & the genetics'
focus re GeneDB (at 22:30 ). Appreciating also your approach to Wikidata to
Wikipedia in ~300 languages regarding the Constructors, Content, Renderers'
approach (from 34 mins to 39 mins).

Looks like Wikipedia is developing the next big multilingual step, - and
for the 146 languages in Wikipedia with less than 10 editors in their
communities (at 42 mins) out of its 300 languages.

Thank you so much Wikidata founder (now at Google) Denny Vrandečić !

Best regards,
Scott
PS. Am staying tuned for CC-4 MIT OCW-centric wiki World Univ & Sch's
planned online medical schools -
https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/World_University_Medical_School
-
and online teaching hospitals -
https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Hospital - planned in each
of all ~200 nation states' official and main languages, for the practice of
online medicine. (CC-4 WUaS donated itself to Wikidata in 2015 for
co-development, and received the WUaS Miraheze MediaWiki in 2017, but
they're not yet interoperable).




On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 11:14 AM Denny Vrandečić 
wrote:

> Yay! Thanks for the positive note! This is appreciated!
>
> Stay safe,
> Denny
>
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 1:44 AM Peter Southwood <
> peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>
> > Based on my first read-through of the paper, I think this would be
> > something worth doing.
> > Cheers,
> > Peter.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On
> > Behalf Of Denny Vrandecic
> > Sent: 14 April 2020 02:53
> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Proposal towards a multilingual Wikipedia and a
> new
> > Wikipedia project
> >
> > As some of you know, I have been working on the idea of a multilingual
> > Wikipedia for a few years now. Two other publications on this are here, I
> > have bothered you with mails about it here previously too:
> >
> > https://research.google/pubs/pub48057/
> >
> > https://wikipedia20.pubpub.org/pub/vyf7ksah
> >
> > I've also been giving talks about the topic in several places about this
> > idea, some of them have also been recorded:
> >
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzVA7YLwhTE
> >
> >
> >
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLiJ6E9sG6U=PLQVG_tuf3Q2fji-CwqEDRJpZuf23wevrq=13
> >
> > I gathered some awesome feedback in those few years (also from some
> members
> > of this list, thank you!), and I also implemented a few prototypes trying
> > out the idea, learning a lot from that.
> >
> > All of this has helped to sharpen the idea and come up with a more
> concrete
> > proposal. In short, the proposal is that we do a two-step approach:
> first,
> > allow for capturing Wikipedia content in an abstract notation, and
> second,
> > allow for creating functions that translate this abstract notation into
> > natural language (For simplicity, I gave this two steps names, Abstract
> > Wikipedia for step 1, and Wikilambda for step 2. I realize that both
> names
> > are not perfect, but that is just one of the many things that we can
> figure
> > out together on the way).
> >
> > I wrote up this proposal in a paper, which I uploaded to my Website
> almost
> > two weeks ago, and I also submitted it to Arxiv. And as soon as it was
> > published on Arxiv, I wanted to share it with you and see what you folks
> > think (I wanted to wait for it as Arxiv would allow the URLs to remains
> > table - my Website has gone down before and might so again).
> >
> > https://arxiv.org/abs/2004.04733
> >
> > The new proposal is much more concrete than the previous proposals (and
> > therefore there is much more to criticize). Also, obviously, nothing of
> > this is set in stone, and just like the names, I am very much looking
> > forward to hear suggestions for how to improve the whole thing, and I
> will
> > blatantly steal every good idea and proposal. I am not even sure what a
> > good venue for this discussion is, I guess, eventually it should be on
> > Meta?, but also about that I would like to hear proposals.
> >
> > Abstract Wikipedia is a proposed extension to Wikidata that would capture
> > the content next to the Wikidata items. Think of it as a new namespace,
> > where we could create, maintain, and collaborate on the abstract content.
> > Similar to the Wikidata-bridge, there should be a way to allow
> > contributions from the Wikipedias to flow back without too much friction.
> > The individual Wikipedias - and I cannot stress this enough - have the
> > choice to use some or any or all or none of the content from Abstract
> > Wikipedia, but I most definitely do not expect the content of the current
> > Wikipedias to be replaced by 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Last chance to review the recommendations, next steps

[Info WorldUniversity]

Thanks for this great plan of action or policy designed to achieve a major
or overall aim - regarding the sum of all knowledge. I enjoyed your podcast
-
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WP_72_-_Wikimedia_2030,_a_strategy_interview.mp3#%7B%7Bint%3Afiledesc%7D%7D
-
in particular. (Seems like in the 'united states of whatebber' per your
Twitter photo, Nicole - https://twitter.com/antischokke - that tactics, by
way of comparison, have been very significant thus far in the Wikimedia
movement).

(In that CC-4 MIT OCW-centric wiki World University & School donated itself
to Wikidata in 2015, and received WUaS Miraheze MediaWiki in 2017 as a
consequence, am curious if WUaS would be considered an affiliate per these
email addressees above, or what?)

I have questions relating mostly to "the sum of all knowledge" goal of
Wikipedia -

epistemology questions - How does or will Wikimedia / Wikipedia / Wikidata
approach academic knowledge, eg in the ~32 departments in MIT OCW, for
example, in particular, in this strategizing - and per information
technology as a new aspect of knowledge generation?

linguistic questions - How will Wikidata approach its ~300 languages in
becoming a platform for academic linguistic departments, and regarding the
sum of all knowledge (and eventually all 7,111 known living languages)? ...
and also regarding the Wikidata lexicographical project.

questions, brainstorming and knowledge-wise, about
'ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy' as a new social science and STEM method
... how could Wikipedians and others begin to develop this wiki project in
the Wikidata / Wikimedia ecosystem?

questions about planning for all 7.5 billion people in first 300 languages,
and then in all 7,111 known living languages, as Wikipedia wiki editors,
curators, knowledge generators? It seems that these potentially 7.5 billion
people on the planet earth are most remarkable as generators of "the sum of
knowledge." How is Wikipedia planning for all these 'knowledge generators'?

Thanks,
Scott
(see blog 'label' regarding 'ethno-wiki-virtual-world-graphy' in this blog
-
https://scott-macleod.blogspot.com/2020/02/keyhole-sand-dollar-agenda-and-minutes.html
 )


On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 9:44 AM Nicole Ebber 
wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> We’re in week 4 of community conversations about the movement strategy
> recommendations. Thank you to everyone who has already taken part. The
> community conversations will continue until Friday, February 21 - you
> can get involved on Meta[1] in Arabic, English, French, German, Hindi,
> Spanish, and Portuguese, strategize with your community or
> organization, or send the core team your feedback to
> strategy2...@wikimedia.org.
>
> This current round of community conversations is the last opportunity
> to suggest improvements to the recommendations. They will be finalized
> before the end of March, and then published for the movement to
> understand them, reflect on what they mean in their project, local, or
> thematic context, and move into implementation.
>
> == Movement feedback: what happens next ==
> All feedback is being collected, reviewed and analyzed on an ongoing
> basis. Here are the  next steps after February 21:
>
> * Week commencing February 24: the core team will summarize all the
> feedback received in a report. You are welcome to continue commenting
> and discussing during this time, but the discussions will not be as
> closely facilitated and documented.
>
> * Week commencing March 2: the core team will publish the above report
> on Meta to give the movement an opportunity to review the content and
> give feedback as to whether it accurately reflects their input. The
> closing date for this is March 6. This summary report will then be
> finalized and published.
>
> In mid-March, the feedback from the Board of Trustees, movement
> conversations and reviewers' input will be considered in the creation
> of the final, improved set of recommendations. A rationale for things
> that have not been considered will be provided, too. Our aim is to
> have the recommendations finalized and published in late March. More
> about the actual integration work coming soon.
>
> == Video and podcast about our work; one-pager ==
> Members of the core team - Tanveer Hasan, Information and Knowledge
> Liaison, and Mehrdad Pourzaki, Information and Knowledge Manager -
> recently held a presentation about all the recommendations at the
> Wikimedia Foundation All Hands. They provide a quick, concise overview
> of every recommendation and also some insight into how each was
> developed. Video of the presentation [2] and the presentation slides
> [3] are now on Commons.
>
> Jan Ainali has interviewed me for his podcast Wikipedia Podden. I’m
> speaking with him about the past, present and future of movement
> strategy[4].
>
> The one-pager created by Andrew Lih (User:Fuzheado) has been very
> popular. Again, a big thank you to Andrew for putting this together.
> In addition to Arabic, English, and 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: Draft recommendations are here!

[Info WorldUniversity]

Gerard, Katherine and Wikimedians,

Am wondering if the Wikimedia Foundation is in Google for NonProfits which
is holding an online training for managing volunteers on September 10th -
https://events.withgoogle.com/google-for-nonprofits-live-stream-series/.

(WUaS is in Google for Nonprofits and is attending this).

Scott
Scott_WUaS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Scott_WorldUnivAndSch


On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 10:48 PM Gerard Meijssen 
wrote:

> Hoi,
> Research on the acquisition of new volunteers shows that most new people
> drop out because of perceived hostility. This excercise of formulating a
> strategy for 2030 aims to address this among other objectives. It follows
> that when new volunteers that stick is an important objective, the status
> quo cannot be maintained. When people threaten to leave because the status
> quo, their power base is threatened, they are welcome to take a leave of
> absence and as Jan-Bart said in them days we hope they will reconsider.
>
> Mind you, I am not a fan-boy of the new strategy. I was in Stockholm and I
> made several points where I think the strategy fails.
>
> The problem that I have with "advocates for the community" is that like
> lawyers they do not necessarily self include and certainly take no
> responsiblity. Their point would be more clear when they say "I will leave
> our community because... ". Our community will be better off when some bad
> apples but "pillars of the community" leave. Our community would be better
> off when we argue in stead of state opinions. Let's be on point and to the
> point.
> Thanks,
>   GerardM
>
> On Sat, 24 Aug 2019 at 22:39, Jeff Hawke  wrote:
>
> > Gerard
> >
> > A good point.  The "community" in one sense is simply the collection of
> all
> > those people who happen over any given time period to be working for the
> > WMF for free.  In another sense, it is the structures and cultures found
> on
> > the various projects.  I think my question could best have been phrased
> in
> > terms of the first meaning -- that is, does the WMF Board expect that
> after
> > these recommendations are enacted, and, as we may reasonably predict, a
> > large proportion of the current volunteers cease their invlvement, that
> > there will be a sufficient number of continuing and new volunteers to
> > sustain the projects in the way the WMF desires.  It seems odd that the
> > Board would not have even begun to consider this question, but it is of
> > course for them and not for us to decide.
> >
> > Jeff
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 24, 2019 at 7:10 PM Gerard Meijssen <
> gerard.meijs...@gmail.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hoi,
> > > Your notion of community is what I question. It is in your refusal of
> > > accepting that English Wikipedia is not a safe place, in your notion
> that
> > > the WMF failed, you fail to accept that it is the WMF that is the
> arbiter
> > > of last resort. You also fail to appreciate that the Wikimedia
> Foundation
> > > is not a democracy. Only some of the board members are elected by the
> > > community. The notion that elected officials are beholden to the
> > electorate
> > > has been spectacularly put on display in the United States so no they
> are
> > > not beholden to you nor me.
> > >
> > > "We" do not consider facts, we hide behind opinions. The result is that
> > our
> > > projects could do so much better once opinions are left for what they
> are
> > > in the face of proven facts. We claim our references are important but
> > > references to our behaviour have been reduced to who said what, where
> and
> > > when.
> > >
> > > Maybe the recommendations of working groups are not better in your
> > opinion
> > > nor mine. In the end it does not matter because there is so much that
> > needs
> > > an overhaul that defensive postures are exactly the behaviour that is
> > best
> > > to be disregarded. What is needed is accepting the need for change,
> > > consider what the recommendations are and consider them along the lines
> > of
> > > how we could improve upon them.
> > > Thanks
> > >   GerardM
> > >
> > > On Sat, 24 Aug 2019 at 19:20, Peter Southwood <
> > > peter.southw...@telkomsa.net>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Gerard,
> > > > It is not clear who you are addressing here, but I am going to assume
> > it
> > > > is Benjamin, who made the original claim. It is a fair question, and
> > some
> > > > clarification would be welcome.
> > > > English Wikipedia may have failed to provide a safe environment, but
> > the
> > > > WMF has failed possibly even more "spectacularly", and the
> > > recommendations
> > > > of the Working Group do not appear to be likely to be any better or
> > more
> > > > effective.
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Peter
> > > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org]
> On
> > > > Behalf Of Gerard Meijssen
> > > > Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2019 6:29 PM
> > > > To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> > > > Subject: Re: 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Farewell, Erik!

[Info WorldUniversity]

Thanks so so much for your great contributions to the Wikimedia Movement,
Erik!

Regards, Scott

- https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Scott_WorldUnivAndSch

On 8:46PM, Thu, Feb 7, 2019 Michael Snow  On 2/7/2019 7:41 PM, Erik Moeller wrote:
> > Thank you, Erik, for helping Wikimedia to know itself! I've always
> > appreciated the incredibly rich detail in your reports, your
> > willingness to unpack the awesome complexity of the wiki-verse, and
> > your insistence that this knowledge should be as free and open as the
> > Wikimedia projects are. I've learned a ton from you, and I am looking
> > forward to reading more about your new adventures as a volunteer. :)
>
> Indeed, one of the great insights that Erik's work embodies for me is
> that providing a framework for approaching knowledge (about the
> movement, or about anything) is essential to making it truly free. Raw
> data with no context is free as the air, but lungs are required to
> breathe. Thank you, Erik, for helping us appreciate how the wiki
> breathes by showing its patterns and rhythms.
>
> --Michael Snow
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Katherine Maher is now CEO and ED of the Wikimedia Foundation

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Congratulations, Katherine!

Regards, Scott
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On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 1:44 PM Philippe Beaudette 
wrote:

> This is a common sense, reasonable update.  Nice work. :)
>
> On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 10:21 AM María Sefidari 
> wrote:
>
> > Dear all,
> >
> > When the Wikimedia Foundation was first established, the head of the
> > organization was assigned the title of Executive Director (ED). In the
> US,
> > this is the standard title for non-profit leaders, and made sense for the
> > organization at the time.
> >
> > This week, at our Board meeting, we made a decision to change to this
> > convention. We resolved to change Katherine Maher’s title to Chief
> > Executive Officer (CEO) and Executive Director. She retains the title of
> > Executive Director, and is also now the CEO of the Foundation. She can
> use
> > either, or both, titles to describe her position.
> >
> > This was an easy decision to make, for a number of reasons.
> >
> > As our movement has grown in the world, we’ve found that the title of ED
> is
> > not as easily understood outside the United States. As a Board with many
> > non-US people, many of us already used the term CEO to describe
> Katherine’s
> > responsibilities. While still an English-language term, it is a very
> common
> > term for many global organizations.
> >
> > The CEO title is increasingly common in US non-profits as well,
> especially
> > larger ones. This is increasingly considered best practice, as a way to
> > communicate that the work of non-profit organizations is as serious,
> > complex, and worthy of respect as that of for-profit organizations. For
> > example, Creative Commons, one of our closest allies, uses the title of
> > CEO.
> >
> > As the Foundation already uses the convention of “chief officer” for the
> > leaders of its internal departments (Chief Financial Officer, Chief
> > Technology Officer), it also makes sense. An executive director would be
> > the most senior director, whereas a chief executive officer is the most
> > senior of the officers.
> >
> > The Board’s Human Resources Committee recommended this change and
> reviewed
> > the details. As this is an update to Katherine’s title, and not a change
> in
> > her duties as an officer, it does not require an update to the Bylaws or
> a
> > wider consultation.
> >
> > The Wikimedia Foundation’s Board of Trustees is very supportive of this
> > change, as we believe this title better reflects the scope of Katherine’s
> > duties over Executive Director alone. This will better support her work
> > with global partners and leaders around the world, helping to share our
> > vision and supporting the strategic direction of Wikimedia in new
> markets.
> > Katherine’s job is not changing in any other sense.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > María
> >
> > --
> >
> > María Sefidari Huici
> >
> > Chair of the Board
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [foundation-optional] A difficult goodbye

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Thank you for your contributions to Wikimedia and the Wikimedia movement,
Victoria,

Regards, Scott
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On Thu, Jan 10, 2019 at 5:31 PM Traci Sigmon  wrote:

> That sounds like an incredible opportunity, Victoria. It was great working
> with you here and hope to cross paths again!
>
> Traci
>
>
> Traci Sigmon (she/her)
> Senior Recruiter
> Wikimedia Foundation
>
> Join Us: WorkWithUs
> Connect with me on LinkedIn
>
> Imagine a world in which every single human being can freely share in the
> sum of all knowledge.  That's our commitment and you can help continue to
> make it a reality:  https://donate.wikimedia.org/
>
>
>
> > On Jan 10, 2019, at 6:29 PM, Victoria Coleman 
> wrote:
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> > I have some difficult news to share.
> >
> > A few months ago and completely out of the blue, an opportunity came up
> for me to exercise the full spectrum of my skills as the CEO of an early
> stage mission oriented startup. It has been a mighty struggle between my
> commitment to my team, the Foundation and  the movement and this
> opportunity to bring all my skills to bear and build something from the
> ground up to do good in the world. I will not lie to you - it has not been
> easy. But ultimately I decided that I have to give it a go and I accepted
> the offer. I plan on starting there on Feb 4th so my last day at the
> Foundation will be Feb 1st.
> >
> > These past two years have been amongst the most enjoyable in my
> professional career. I’ve enjoyed getting to know the movement and what
> fuels it and I’ve been incredibly privileged to work with a Tech team like
> no other. We have together strengthened the technical infrastructure of the
> movement and while much work remains to be done we have a much stronger
> team in place to take the mission to the next level. And I have personally
> made friendships that will last a lifetime.
> >
> > The organization I will be moving to is Atlas AI, a public benefit
> corporation supported by the Rockefeller Foundation. I will be leading an
> exceptional team of AI and earth system science experts striving for
> improvements in human well being through data driven insights. Our focus
> areas are drawn from the UN’s sustainable development goals of no poverty
> and zero hunger with emphasis on Sub Saharan Africa.
> >
> > I leave behind a Technology department that I am certain is well on the
> way to achieving our vision to create the infrastructure for the free
> knowledge movement. I am also pleased that during my tenure, we have built
> leaders who are equipped to take on this challenge.
> >
> > Erika Bjune will be serving as interim CTO. Erika joined us a little
> over two years ago and she has distinguished  herself as one of the finest
> people leaders I have ever worked with. Both she and Katherine will have my
> ongoing support — I will stay on in a consulting role to Erika on
> organizational matters and for the mid term planning work we have ahead of
> us in the remainder of the fiscal year.  I know that I am leaving the Tech
> team in good hands until a permanent CTO is hired.
> >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikipedia in an abstract language

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Hi Ariel, Denny, and Wikimedians,

I sent this at noon today, but it didn't go through to this email address,
so am re-sending now from here.

Suggestions about how these email lists might work differently?

Best, Scott



Scott MacLeod 
12:01 PM (5 hours ago)
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Thanks, Ariel, Denny, and Wikimedians,

Re your observations, I wonder, conceptually, if the end-to-end Translation
approach of Google Translate would render what you suggest, Ariel (e.g.
someone could translate an article from a language Wikipedia and this would
produce a single translation i.e. "one article for all
audiences"), whereas developing, conceptually, a different translator
approach - i.e. from Language A to Language B - conceptually, and perhaps
building such a hypothetical translator from Wikidata's Lexicographical
project, could yield  "information depending on their role in the
communities of the speakers of a
given language" (leaving aside the Wikimedia's ContentTranslation project
at this stage).

And I wonder  re 1), Denny and Ariel, beyond cultural contexts /
differences / borders, and your Portugal and Brazil example, whether one
might add in a country approach as well. Re 2 & 3) I wonder what role
interpretation plays in writing a NPOV article in any given language, and
vis-a-vis Abstract Wikipedia too, and how these NPOV interpretations offer
benefits in their great diversity (in terms of Wikipedia's goal: "to build
a world in which every single human being can freely share in the sum of
all knowledge"), and the benefits of "displaying the local articles
whenever available" for inter-lingual knowledge-generation.

Thanks for the very thoughtful questions and responses.

Cheers, Scott

On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 5:25 PM Denny Vrandečić  wrote:

> Hi Ariel,
>
> thanks for the very thoughtful question. I got asked this question every
> time I present it, and during the Blue Sky presentation this question - or
> a variation of it - was asked three times. It really is on top of people's
> mind!
>
> My answer is half inconsistent, I am afraid, because I have by now come up
> with three ways to answer this question, and they contradict each other. So
> I am glad to hear more thoughts on it.
>
> Here are the three answers:
>
> 1) I think that language is a pretty bad delimiter to keep points of view
> apart. Yes, sure, it allows the Japanese Wikipedia to offer a different
> description of World War 2 than the Korean Wikipedia has, but I am not sure
> that is entirely a good thing. We don't have two Wikipedias for Portugal
> and Brazil, they have to agree and what they say, but we have Wikipedias in
> Croatian, Serbian, Bosnian, Serbocroatian... and I am not sure that the
> outcome of this decision is fully positive. So, my main point is, if we
> really want to capture cultural differences, let's align the borders of the
> editions of Wikipedia along these cultures. But aligning the cultural
> borders solely along language borders is badly imperfect.
>
> 2) But in general, I think that accepting that different Wikipedias should
> have different contents are incompatible with our NPOV policy. Now we could
> have a lengthy discussion whether NPOV is a good policy or not. But in
> general, I'd really prefer to have all points of views being presented with
> their due weight in all languages, instead of using languages to represent
> a point of view only in one language, and have a different point of view in
> another language. I would love to be able to read both the Japanese and the
> Korean point of view on contentious issues between these two countries - as
> I can in Serbian and Croatian, because I can read both languages just fine
> - but I think it is rather problematic that language barriers dictate the
> point of view I have access to. In fact, in many cases, we can see in the
> English speaking Wikipedia how the very same editors from the say Croatian
> and Serbian Wikipedia come to a more balanced result in the English
> Wikipedia, which they wouldn't accept in their 'home' Wikipedias. Funny,
> isn't it?
>
> 3) More importantly, and entirely disagreeing with #1 and #2, is that the
> Abstract Wikipedia never suggests to replace the current language editions,
> but to fill up the gaps in any given language edition. So, if the Croatian
> Wikipedia really wants to go into details on Croatian folk songs and
> Croatian food items, they should be totally able to do so without having to
> feel bad that they might be missing basic information about South American
> countries and Australian Aboriginal cultures. In fact, what I hope is that
> each language edition can choose to display the renderings from the
> Abstract Wikipedia for most articles, and then they can concentrate on
> creating in-depth articles on the topics they really care about - local
> cities, cultures, traditions. I remember in the beginning when working on
> the Croatian Wikipedia - it feels weird to work on the article about a
> local dish if you're still 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of the Vietnam Wikimedians User Group

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Congratulations, as well!

Cheers, Scott

Scott_WUaS

On 4:16AM, Sun, Sep 16, 2018 Moheen Reeyad 
wrote:

>  Congratulations!
>
> On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 5:07 PM Nurunnaby Hasive  >
> wrote:
>
> > Congratulations!
> >
> >
> > Hasive
> > WMBD
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 16, 2018 at 2:31 PM Shlomi Fish 
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Sat, 15 Sep 2018 22:43:18 -0400
> > > Kirill Lokshin  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi everyone!
> > > >
> > > > I'm very happy to announce that the Affiliations Committee has
> > recognized
> > > > [1] the Vietnam Wikimedians User Group [2] as a Wikimedia User Group.
> > The
> > > > group aims to encourage and promote participation and contribution to
> > the
> > > > Wikimedia projects by Vietnamese-speaking users.
> > > >
> > > > Please join me in congratulating the members of this new user group!
> > > >
> > >
> > > congratulations!
> > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Kirill Lokshin
> > > > Chair, Affiliations Committee
> > > >
> > > > [1]
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Affiliations_Committee/Resolutions/Recognition_Wikimedians_of_Vietnam_Wikimedians_User_Group
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Deutschland: Annual Report 2017

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Thank you, Cornelius and WMDE,

Cheers, Scott
Scott_WUaS

On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 5:14 AM, Cornelius Kibelka <
cornelius.kibe...@wikimedia.de> wrote:

> Hi all,
> We have recently published our Annual Report 2017. If you would like
> to learn more about examples of Wikimedia Deutschland's projects and
> programs from last year, have a look:
>
> https://2017.wikimedia.de/en
>
> Thanks to the great response last year, our annual report is again
> available as a visually appealing, responsive online version that also
> works pretty well on mobile.
>
> If you rather prefer to print it, you can do so as well: Our report is
> available on Wikimedia Commons as a PDF version (3,96 MB):
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:WMDE_Annual_Report_2017_en.pdf
>
> Happy reading,
> Cornelius
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement Strategy: First round of Working Group members

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And perhaps with a further focus on specific African countries that speak
Portuguese?

Scott_WUaS

On 5:46AM, Tue, Jul 31, 2018 Gerard Meijssen 
wrote:

> Hoi,
> How about Portuguese from Africa?
> Thanks,
>   GerardM
>
> On 27 July 2018 at 16:41, Paulo Santos Perneta 
> wrote:
>
> > Hello Jane,
> >
> > Yes, maybe I have been lucky for having to deal with a Wikipedia that,
> > despite having its fair share of problems, actually has not that kind of
> > strife. We have 2 major linguistic varieties there (different to the
> point
> > that stuff in European Portuguese is often subtitled in Brazil), and I
> > can't remember the last time we had any problem related to that. We used
> to
> > have some episodic problems, but since we passed a rule around 2011
> > declaring that articles directly related to a geographic region should
> use
> > the variety spoken in that geographic region, it ceased to be a problem.
> > Language/variety diversity is often seen there as a source of richness
> and
> > knowledge, and not as some kind of downside that people have to endure in
> > order to participate.
> >
> > Some people of wiki.pt are also very active at the Mirandese and
> Galician
> > wikis, projects with which we often engage in close collaboration.
> >
> > I'm also quite active at Commons, where we use mostly English, but a bit
> of
> > everything as well (many categories are written using 2 different
> > languages, for instance, and we often communicate in our native languages
> > over there, often in the same thread).
> >
> > I wouldn't doubt that there are some people that despise languages
> > different from the one they speak, but I don't believe it's anywhere
> "split
> > down the middle". At least that is not my experience, at all.
> >
> >
> > All the best,
> >
> >
> > Paulo
> >
> >
> > 2018-07-27 14:57 GMT+01:00 Jane Darnell :
> >
> > > Well just speaking from my experience with the nlwiki community, there
> is
> > > often a tendency to e.g. delete Belgian versions of local folklore or
> > > cuisine, or merge these into Dutch local folklore or cuisine articles.
> I
> > > think in general, you could say that most mono-lingualists are fairly
> > > certain their country and by association, their language is the best,
> and
> > > any other speakers of their language should either conform or start
> their
> > > own wiki, never mind local grammar rules, etc. I am surprised you
> haven't
> > > come across this at all - consider yourself lucky!
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Paulo Santos Perneta <
> > > paulospern...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello Jane,
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think that we are in fact
> > > split down the middle into parties that believe
> > > > "some languages are better than others" and "let's save all existing
> > > > languages on the planet, including all of their fonts ever used on-
> and
> > > > offline".
> > > >
> > > > I don't know why do you wrote this, as I never had this impression,
> at
> > > > all. We are split by languages since the Babel Tower was embargoed by
> > > God,
> > > > but I never, ever remember hearing someone saying or even hinting
> that
> > > > "some languages are better than others".
> > > >
> > > > All the best,
> > > >
> > > > Paulo
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2018-07-25 8:28 GMT+01:00 Jane Darnell :
> > > >
> > > > > Hmm. Yes and no. Yes the May 2017 conference suffered from some
> > > > interesting
> > > > > selection bias, but no the people there were not all brainwashed
> into
> > > > > forgetting their "wildness". We are all still wild wild Wikipedians
> > at
> > > > > heart, speaking for the 2006 cohort in its entirety. I really doubt
> > > > whether
> > > > > the WMF is trying to shove us all in a direction of their choosing.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think
> > > > > that we are in fact split down the middle into parties that believe
> > > "some
> > > > > languages are better than others" and "let's save all existing
> > > languages
> > > > on
> > > > > the planet, including all of their fonts ever used on- and
> offline".
> > > Then
> > > > > there is a huge discrepancy in workflow for these people and the
> > folks
> > > > who
> > > > > work in just one language and never think of language as a movement
> > > topic
> > > > > at all. Among this monolingual crowd (many of whom do not subscribe
> > to
> > > > any
> > > > > mailing list or other communication outlets) are the overlapping
> > groups
> > > > > between the "field workers" and the "library workers". The field
> > > workers
> > > > > tend to operate more by a "drive-by" methodology, and the "library
> > > > workers"
> > > > > tend to operate more by a "step-by-step" methodology. I
> respectfully
> > > > submit
> > > > > that we have all dabbled in all of these worlds and therefore we
> all
> > > have
> > > > > enough common sense to shout "Whoa!" if something really really
> wrong
> > > > gets
> > > > > proposed. But in the past I have felt quite strongly that 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Solve legal uncertainty of Wikidata

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Hi Mathieu, Rob, Denny, and Wikidatans,

I'm writing to inquire about further Wikidata CC licensing clarifications.


Wikidata may be heading to
https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/
which allows for a) sharing b) adapting and even c) commercially

MIT OCW uses, by way of comparison,
https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/4.0/
which allows for a) sharing b) adapting but c) non-commercially


At a Wikimedia conference in early 2017, with Lydia and Dario present, I
think I learned that all books / WikiCitations in all 301 of Wikipedia
languages could be licensed, or heading to be licensed, with CC-0 licensing
- https://creativecommons.org/share-your-work/public-domain/cc0/ - and per
- https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T193728 - which would allow them to be
data sources for online bookstores even. Is this the case. Could some of
Wikidata's data be licensed with CC-SA-4 (
https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/) and other data be licensed
with CC-0?

Thanks.

Cheers, Scott


On Thu, May 17, 2018 at 8:39 AM, Rob Speer  wrote:

> > As always, copyright is predatory. As we can prove that copyright is the
> enemy of science and knowledge
>
> Well, this kind of gets to the heart of the issue, doesn't it.
>
> I support the Creative Commons license, including the share-alike term,
> which requires copyright in order to work, and I've contributed to multiple
> Wikimedia projects with the understanding that my work would be protected
> by CC-By-SA.
>
> Wikidata is engaged in a project-wide act of disobedience against CC-By-SA.
> I would say that GerardM has provided an excellent summary of the attitude
> toward Creative Commons that I've encountered on Wikidata: "it's holding us
> back", "it's the enemy", "you can't copyright knowledge", "you can't make
> us follow it", etc.
>
> The result of this, by the way, is that commercial entities sell modified
> versions of Wikidata with impunity. It undermines the terms of other
> resources such as DBPedia, which also contains facts extracted from
> Wikipedia and respects its Share-Alike terms. Why would anyone use DBPedia
> and have to agree to share alike, when they can get similar data from
> Wikidata which promises them it's CC-0?
>
> On Wed, 16 May 2018 at 21:43 Gerard Meijssen 
> wrote:
>
> > Hoi,
> > Thank you for the overly broad misrepresentation. As always, copyright is
> > predatory. As we can prove that copyright is the enemy of science and
> > knowledge we should not be upset that *copyright *is abused we should
> > welcome it as it proves the point. Also when we use texts from everywhere
> > and rephrase it in Wikipedia articles "we" are not lily white either.
> >
> > In "them old days" generally we felt that when people would use
> Wikipedia,
> > it would only serve our purpose; share the sum of all knowledge. I still
> > feel really good about that. And, it has been shown that what we do;
> > maintain / curate / update that data that it is not easily given to do as
> > well as "we" do it.
> >
> > When we are to be more precise with our copyright, there are a few things
> > we could do to make copyright more transparent. When data is to be
> uploaded
> > (Commons / Wikipedia or Wikidata) we should use a user that is OWNED and
> > operated by the copyright holder. The operation may be by proxy and as a
> > consequence there is no longer a question about copyright as the
> copyright
> > holder can do as we wants. This makes any future noises just that,
> > annoying.
> >
> > As to copyright on Wikidata, when you consider copyright using data from
> > Wikipedia. The question is: "What Wikipedia" I have copied a lot of data
> > from several Wikipedias and believe me, from a quality point of view
> there
> > is much to be gained by using Wikidata as an instrument for good because
> it
> > is really strong in identifying friends and false friends. It is superior
> > as a tool for disambiguation.
> >
> > About the copyright on data, the overriding question with data is: do you
> > copy data wholesale in Wikidata. That is what a database copyright is
> > about. As I wrote on my blog [1], the best data to include is data that
> is
> > corroborated by the fact that it is present in multiple sources. This
> > negates the notion of a single source, it also underscores that much of
> the
> > data everywhere is replicated a lot. It also underscores, again, the
> notion
> > that data that is only present in single sources is what needs attention.
> > It needs tender loving care, it needs other sources to establish
> > credentials. That is in its own right what makes any claim of copyright
> > moot. It is in this process that it becomes a "creative" process negating
> > the copyright held on databases.
> >
> > I welcome the attention that is given to copyright in Wikidata. However
> our
> > attention to copyright is predatory in two ways. It is how can we get
> > around existing copyright and how can we 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Request for status update on CC-BY-SA 4.0

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I think this CC-4 licensing would allow for 1) sharing, 2) adapting, but 3)
non-commercially. At least this is what I learned when I was in
communication a number of times with the MIT associate *dean* of
digital *learning
Cecilia d'Oliveira *at the time about sharing CC-4 licensed MIT
OpenCourseWare now in 5 languages (re WUaS). Would this indeed be the case
for Wikimedia resources?

Cheers, Scott


On Sun, May 13, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Denny Vrandečić 
wrote:

> About one and a half years ago, there was a consultation process about
> updating the Wikimedia Terms of Use to move from CC 3.0 to 4.0 licenses.
>
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_use/Creative_Commons_4.0
>
> I would like to ask what the status of this proposal is, and whom to bother
> to get this unstuck in case it is stuck.
>
> Cheers,
> Denny
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation

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John and All,

As a possible complement to this discussion, CC-4 MIT
OpenCourseWare-centric World University and School seeks to matriculate
students in all ~200 countries' official/main languages (
https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Languages), and may
compensate them for work in a number of ways, including translation and
developing machine translation (and in all 7,099 living languages
eventually).

World Univ. and Sch. donated ourselves to Wikidata in 2015 for
co-development, and got a new WUaS Miraheze Mediawiki last year in these
regards too.

Cheers, Scott
- https://wiki.worlduniversityandschool.org/wiki/Nation_States
(each to become a major online University for free CC-4 OCW degrees)



On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 1:49 PM, John Erling Blad  wrote:

> It is a long time since everyone on these projects were solely volunteers.
> :)
>
> On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 9:40 PM, Todd Allen  wrote:
>
> > Yes, and then there's always the question. If he's getting paid, why
> aren't
> > I? Why is he getting paid per word of article translated? Why am I not
> > getting paid per spamvertisement deleted or vandal blocked? Why am I not
> > getting paid for closing discussions that it takes hours of reading input
> > and considering all sides and getting rocks thrown at me no matter what I
> > do? Is that not valuable to the project as well?
> >
> > If you want to pay anyone, you better start paying me. I'm okay with the
> > idea of being a volunteer as long as everyone is a volunteer. But if you
> > start paying some people and not me, we're going to have a problem.
> >
> > Todd
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 12:47 PM, Peter Southwood <
> > peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Those who pay get to select what is translated.
> > > Cheers,
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On
> > > Behalf Of Jean-Philippe Béland
> > > Sent: 24 February 2018 16:55
> > > To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Paid translation
> > >
> > > I think the request for such projects should come from the concerned
> > > language projects, same for the list of articles. If not, in my simple
> > > opinion, it is a form of coloniasm again.
> > >
> > > Jean-Philippe Béland
> > > Vice President, Wikimedia Canada
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 9:40 AM John Erling Blad 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Should have added that the remaining points are somewhat less
> > > > interesting in this context. Preloading a set of articles is a bad
> > > > idea, the translators should be able to chose for themselves.
> Articles
> > > > should also be pretty broad, not very narrow technical or medical, ie
> > > > vertical articles, as the number of editors that can handle those
> will
> > > be pretty small.
> > > >
> > > > In particular: Do not believe you can turn a teanslator into a new
> > > editor!
> > > > You can although turn an existing editor into a translator.
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 3:34 PM, John Erling Blad 
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > 1) You must start with high quality content and thus all articles
> > > > > are
> > > > >> extensively improved before being proposed for translation.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Note that to much pressure on "quality" can easily kill the
> project.
> > > > >
> > > > > 3) The "Content Translation" tool developed by the WMF made efforts
> > > > > more
> > > > >> efficient than handing around word documents. Would love to see
> > > > >> that
> > > > tool
> > > > >> improved further such as having it support specific lists of
> > > > >> articles
> > > > that
> > > > >> are deemed ready for translation by certain groups. Would also
> love
> > > > >> the tool to have tracking metrics for these types of projects.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Didn't mention ContentTranslation, but it should be pretty obvious.
> > > > >
> > > > > 4) We used volunteer translators mostly associated with our partner
> > > > >> Translators Without Borders. One issue we found was that languages
> > > > >> in which their are lots of translators such as French, Spanish,
> and
> > > > >> Italian there is often already at least some content on many of
> the
> > > > >> topics in question.
> > > > The
> > > > >> issue than becomes integration which needs an expert Wikipedia.
> And
> > > > >> for languages in which we have little content there are often few
> > > > >> avaliable volunteers.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I used projects below 65k articles as an example, as the chance of
> > > > > competing articles are pretty low.
> > > > >
> > > > > 5) With respect to "paying per word" the problem is this would
> > > > > require
> > > > >> significant checks and balances to make sure people are taking the
> > > > >> work seriously and not simple using Google translate for the 70 or
> > > > >> so
> > > > languages
> > > > >> in which 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Personal Update

[Info WorldUniversity]

Welcome, Kelly, and thanks for the information!

Warm regards,
Scott

On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Anna Stillwell 
wrote:

> Congratulations on your new role, Kelly.
> Warmly,
> /a
>
> On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 1:24 PM, Kelly Battles 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Everyone,
> > >
> > > I have an exciting personal update to share with all of you. Today, I
> am
> > > joining Quora as Chief Financial Officer. I have shared more
> information
> > on
> > > my Quora personal blog[1].
> > >
> > > Once I decided to accept this role, I shared the news with Christophe
> as
> > > chair of the Board and Katherine as ED, both in the interest of full
> > > disclosure and to flag any potential conflicts of interest. Stephen
> > LaPorte
> > > and Michelle Paulson, as interim Secretary of the Board and
> Foundation’s
> > > General Counsel, reviewed the new position and concluded there are no
> > > existing conflicts. After reviewing the bylaws, we’re confident we can
> > > properly manage any that may arise.
> > >
> > > As some of you may know, Jimmy Wales has a small investment in Quora. I
> > > was not personally aware of this during this process. As I learned of
> it
> > > during the conflict of interest review, I wanted to share that
> > information
> > > and clarify there was no connection.
> > >
> > > I’m very excited about this next chapter in my professional life. I
> > > sincerely look forward to the opportunity to learn more about another
> > > passionate community, while continuing my commitment to serve Wikimedia
> > as
> > > a Foundation Trustee over the years ahead. This service has been a true
> > > honor, thank you for support.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Kelly Battles
> > > *Member, Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees*
> > >
> > > 1. https://kellybattles.quora.com/Joining-Quora-as-CFO
> > >
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] Discussing Creative Commons 4.0

[Info WorldUniversity]

Great, Stephen and Rupert!

I'd like to invite you both (and all Wikidatans in the SF Bay Area) to the
Wikidata 4th birthday party on Wednesday, October 26 from 12:30-1:30 at Red
Door Coffee SF on 111 Minna Street -
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Fourth_Birthday/Events. Perhaps we
can talk further about some of these CC 4.0 questions there.

I'm also going to bring a birthday cake for everyone.

Friendly Wikidata cheers, Scott



On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 2:45 PM, rupert THURNER 
wrote:

> thank you very much, it's about time this happens! It might be an idea to
> detail the exact license differences a little bit more prominent?
>
> Rupert
>
> On Oct 5, 2016 22:13, "Stephen LaPorte"  wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> Today we opened a discussion asking for community input
>  on a
> proposed change to the Wikimedia Terms of Use to upgrade to Creative
> Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International license
> . The new license is
> easier to read and more internationally friendly, so we hope it will ensure
> that people can easily and freely share or remix Wikimedia content. The
> amendment to our Terms of Use is currently available in German, French,
> Spanish, Russian, Arabic, and we welcome further translations and
> discussion in any language.
>
> For your review, you may find the proposed amendment and background
> information here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Terms_of_use/Creative_
> Commons_4.0/Legal_note
>
> Please join the discussion on the talk page:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wik
> i/Talk:Terms_of_use/Creative_Commons_4.0
>
> Thank you for sharing your thoughts and comments.
>
> Best,
> Stephen
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