[Wikimedia-l] [Reminder] Language Engineering IRC Office Hour on February 12, 2014 (Wednesday) at 1700 UTC

[Runa Bhattacharjee]

Hello,

A quick reminder that the IRC office hour for Language Engineering is
happening later today at 1700 UTC on Freenode #wikimedia-office. More
details at the end of the mail.

See you there!

Thanks
Runa

Event Details:
==

# Date: February 12, 2014 (Wednesday)
# Time: 1700-1800 UTC, 0900-1000 PDT (Check for local time:
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20140212T1700)
# IRC channel: #wikimedia-office on irc.freenode.net

Agenda:
==
1. Universal Language Selector (ULS) update and developments
2. Q & A

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Date: Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 2:49 PM
Subject: Language Engineering IRC Office Hour on February 12, 2014
(Wednesday) at 1700 UTC
To: MediaWiki internationalisation ,
Wikimedia Mailing List , Wikimedia
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wikitech-ambassad...@lists.wikimedia.org


[x-posted]

Hello,

The Wikimedia Language Engineering team will be hosting the monthly IRC
office hour on February 12, 2014 (Wednesday) at 1700 UTC/ 0900 PDT on
#wikimedia-office.

This time we would be talking about the recent changes made to the
Universal Language Selector (ULS)  - the MediaWiki extension that provides
unified language configuration[1] - and the impact on the Wikimedia wikis.
We look forward to addressing any questions you may have about this. Please
see below for the event details.

Questions can also be sent to me before the event. See you all at the IRC
office hour!

Thanks
Runa

[1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Universal_Language_Selector

Event Details:
==

# Date: February 12, 2014

# Time: 1700-1800 UTC, 0900-1000 PDT (
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?iso=20140212T1700)

# IRC channel: #wikimedia-office on irc.freenode.net

Agenda:
==
1. Universal Language Selector (ULS) update and developments
2. Q & A

-- 
Language Engineering - Outreach and QA Coordinator
Wikimedia Foundation




-- 
Language Engineering - Outreach and QA Coordinator
Wikimedia Foundation
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[Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia IL & the National Library team up to enlarge the number of Israeli editors

[ido ivri]

Hi,

For quite some time now, WMIL & the National Library are holding "Wikipedia
workshops" which encourage volunteers to get to know Wikipedia, acquire
basic editing skills, and try expanding or writing new articles based on
the Library collections. The goal of this is both to expand the number of
active editors, and to use better resources available from the Library.

This time, we got the press interested, and the result is a very nice
article on a national channel.
The article is available in the following link, and starts at minute 29:05:
http://www.i24news.tv/en/tv/replay/evening-news#/evening-news/3179531785001


Enjoy!

Ido, WMIL board AKA [NLIGuy]
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board decisions on movement funding and approval issues

[Nathan]

>
>
>
> Ah I see. So I suppose, following your line of thought, that any and all of
> the wikimedia staff (all organisations included) involved in any part of
> the fundraising should attach some kind of disclaimer about how they
> "benefit" from the work they're paid to do? Since, after all, they're
> working to raise money that *will* pay their salary.
>
> This might prove an interesting thing to implement.
>
> Delphine
>
>
If they are engaged in public advocacy on how funds should be raised and
distributed, then yes, I would like to see them disclose (whether in this
setting, or on blog posts, or comments to journalists or etc.) that they
are employed by the WMF. This is fairly conventional in many fields -
disclosure is not an admission of guilt or wrongdoing, it's just providing
relevant information to your audience.
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board decisions on movement funding and approval issues

[Risker]

I think perhaps this "financial benefit" discussion has taken us a bit
off track.  This thread has a wealth of well-informed commentary, the
majority of it coming from volunteers; for most, any "financial"
benefit is the result of expenses being (partially) covered to carry
out these volunteer activities.

Perhaps the point that Nathan might be trying to make is that it is
useful for everyone involved in these wide-ranging discussions to
understand each other's relative experience.  For example, it would be
helpful to interpret Cynthia's and Lodewijk's comments knowing that
they are members of the Affiliations Committee. That is not to suggest
that their opinions should be discounted; in fact, quite the opposite.
They are opinions that have been informed by the fact of their
committee membership, although of course they are speaking for
themselves and not the committee as a whole. I will note as an aside
that I was aware they were both on some relevant committee, but it
took some digging to figure out which one.

Similarly, those who hold executive roles with chapters, or are
members of the FDC or other global or local groups that would be
affected by these decisions, are able to share their knowledge from
those experiences.

Risker/Anne

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board decisions on movement funding and approval issues

[Gregory Varnum]

I agree this has gotten us off-track. I generally try to at least
acknowledge my roles and conflicts in at least a PS - although I sometimes
forget.

All of that said, it seems this sidetrack happened because there was a
sense some people were concerned about the cap because they want more money
or may subconsciously have that motive. I think that's oversimplifies
people's concerns.

I would suggest if the disclaimer conversation does not feel resolved, it
be taken to a new thread.

-greg aka varnent
PS. Views and opinions do not reflect any of my AffCom or WM related roles.


On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:40 AM, Risker  wrote:

> I think perhaps this "financial benefit" discussion has taken us a bit
> off track.  This thread has a wealth of well-informed commentary, the
> majority of it coming from volunteers; for most, any "financial"
> benefit is the result of expenses being (partially) covered to carry
> out these volunteer activities.
>
> Perhaps the point that Nathan might be trying to make is that it is
> useful for everyone involved in these wide-ranging discussions to
> understand each other's relative experience.  For example, it would be
> helpful to interpret Cynthia's and Lodewijk's comments knowing that
> they are members of the Affiliations Committee. That is not to suggest
> that their opinions should be discounted; in fact, quite the opposite.
> They are opinions that have been informed by the fact of their
> committee membership, although of course they are speaking for
> themselves and not the committee as a whole. I will note as an aside
> that I was aware they were both on some relevant committee, but it
> took some digging to figure out which one.
>
> Similarly, those who hold executive roles with chapters, or are
> members of the FDC or other global or local groups that would be
> affected by these decisions, are able to share their knowledge from
> those experiences.
>
> Risker/Anne
>
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board decisions on movement funding and approval issues

[Delirium]

On 2/11/14, 9:14 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:

There are two areas where the Wikimedia Foundation is active; the USA where
it is active through both chapters and the office in San Francisco. The
rest of the world where it is active through chapters and whatever.

Well, you did leave out a few of the countries in the WMF is active, 
mainly by paying staff located there to work on things ranging from the 
Visual Editor to core MediaWiki development to internationalization to 
analytics: Netherlands, Spain, Canada, Austria, Australia, UK, Czech 
Republic, Croatia, Israel, India, Finland...


-Mark


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board decisions on movement funding and approval issues

[Itzik Edri]

So as the discussion gotten off-track, as 100% volunteer for the past 7
years, I'll echo and support every line which Nicole, as a WMDE employee
wrote. Thank you for summarize what many of us feel and think in a clear
and detailed response.


On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 10:40 PM, Nicole Ebber wrote:

> Dear members of the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees, dear
> Wikimedians,
>
> I would like to share a few thoughts and questions with you. Thoughts
> and questions that I would love to see being addressed when talking
> about these movement issues. I have the feeling that this substantial
> decision is coming somewhat out of the blue, without a prior
> discussion among the broader movement – at least none that I am aware
> of. It would be helpful if you can provide some insights into the
> bigger picture or broader evaluation these decisions are based upon.
>
> == User Groups ==
> Not only two years ago, two new movement affiliate models were
> introduced, resulting from an extensive, transparent and collaborative
> process that involved all movement stakeholders. The current decision
> kind of neglects this process, the people involved, and its outcome.
>
> At first sight, I can understand your approach of giving UGs time to
> develop governance as well as structures and experiment with their
> capacities. But since there is hardly any structured support for these
> young and aspiring volunteer groups to grow, to develop and to become
> trusted partners, I fear that time alone won’t do the trick.
>
> Defining affiliates’ goals and providing guidance for development
> paths are inevitable tasks for a healthy movement, but it remains
> completely unclear who has (or should have) a mandate for this
> support. Without securing this support and empowerment, our movement
> might miss the unique chance to uncover the treasures of Free
> Knowledge around the world.
>
> The most pressing question here remains: In an ideal world, how would
> an organization model for Wikimedia look like? And does the
> restriction of choices for affiliations' models help us to reach this
> goal? I’ve got the impression that this step is more a patch for the
> symptoms, while we as a movement should strive for a fix for a – yet
> unspecified – “problem”.
>
> == FDC funding ==
> Similar questions arise regarding the FDC freeze. Why now? Wouldn’t it
> make sense to wait for the FDC Advisory Group, who is charged with
> reviewing and evaluating the funds dissemination process as a whole?
> Do we have to understand this decision as a declaration of bankruptcy
> of the FDC process already? Which data is this freeze based upon?
>
> For a young movement like ours, with a cause that is so new and
> unique, how can we even dare not to invest into exploring new
> territory, into finding the right things to do? Why do we not embrace
> all the exciting projects that the affiliate volunteers and staff are
> offering to our movement, and which fulfill our common mission?
> Together, we have to figure out the best balance between
> effectiveness-driven and money-driven decisions. We need to define
> what is meant by “healthy growth”, taking different circumstances and
> stages of development into account. The Wikimedia movement is in the
> luxury position that our donors generously support our endeavors, they
> trust us with our efforts to advance our mission, and I wonder if it
> is reasonable if we artificially limit the support that is available
> to our global movement.
>
> Our whole grantmaking process is unique, we are pioneers within the
> non-profit world. And the same goes for the evaluation of our work. Of
> course, we are all – big and small – facing growing pains and need to
> scrutinize our processes over and over again. Does retracting from
> this experiment at such an early stage, without proper assessment and
> evaluation, reflect our movement’s culture of being bold and
> innovative?
>
> What also puzzles me is the fact that on the one hand your decision
> encourages affiliates to seek funding from outside sources, but on the
> other hand speaks against building structures. One of the reasons for
> centralizing the fundraising in 2012 was the argument that chapters
> should focus on their work and leave the collection of funds to the
> WMF. Now that they have lost their capability and skills for raising
> funds, you not only ask affiliates and volunteer groups to start
> building up these capacities again, you also put them in jeopardy of
> becoming dependent from corporations, governments and other sponsors
> that we as a movement hardly have any control over. Would it not be a
> good idea to at least support the process and make WMF funds available
> to build up structures for a sustainable external fundraising, full of
> integrity?
>
> == Outlook ==
> My hope is that these decisions can serve as an initial spark to bring
> all involved parties together and frankly (I mean it!) discuss
> questions relevant for the future of our 

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Programmatic experience in past 2 years (was: Board decisions on movement funding and approval issues)

[derfussi]

How about the Wikivoyage association…. We have been existing for 7 years now, 
and applied for being recognized as a thematic organisation.






Von: Pharos
Gesendet: ‎Dienstag‎, ‎11‎. ‎Februar‎ ‎2014 ‎20‎:‎57
An: Wikimedia Mailing List





Certainly, in the last 2 years and before, a handful of Wikimedia
volunteer groups have been quite as active and organized as those
currently being classified as User Groups - only the option of being
recognized as User Groups did not exist for them at the time of their
founding.

And it is a good thing that this category exists now, but is seems
wrong to penalize Wikimedia volunteer groups that *do* have a track
record of effective programmatic experience, just because they were
started before the User Group category was in existence.

Thanks,
Richard
(User:Pharos)

On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:33 AM, phoebe ayers  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I want to draw your attention to two Wikimedia Board of Trustees decisions
> that were recently published, regarding funds allocated to the FDC/Annual
> plan grant process and Board approval of chapter/thematic organization
> status. In a nutshell, the Board decided to allocate approximately the same
> amount of funding to the FDC for the next two years. The Board also decided
> that new organizations should first form as a user group and have two years
> of programmatic experience before being approved as a legally incorporated
> entity (either a chapter or thematic organization).
>
> The decisions are published in the meeting minutes here:
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2013-11-24#Movement_roles
>
> There is also a FAQ on Meta:
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_roles_FAQ
>
> You will notice these decisions are published in the minutes for the
> November meeting. We originally took these decisions at that meeting;
> however as the FAQ explains it took us some time to talk to community
> groups, clarify our wording and write the FAQ.
>
> Hopefully the FAQ will answer many of your questions about these decisions;
> however, if there are other questions please do ask them, here or on the
> meta talk page. Thank you!
>
> for the Board,
> Phoebe
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[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] (press release) Frank Schulenburg named executive director of new Wiki Education Foundation

[Jay Walsh]

Passing along for your information. This release is posted on the WMF wiki at
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Frank_Schulenburg_named_executive_director_of_new_WEF

An accompanying Q&A can also be found here:
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/QA_Frank_Schulenburg_announcement_February_2014

---

Frank Schulenburg named executive director of new Wiki Education Foundation

(San Francisco, California) 12 February 2014 -- The Wiki Education
Foundation, a new nonprofit organization that supports the Wikipedia
Education Program in the United States and Canada, has named Frank
Schulenburg as its inaugural executive director. Schulenburg, formerly
senior director of programs at the Wikimedia Foundation, will begin
his new role February 18, 2014.

"I look forward to leading the Wiki Education Foundation," said
Schulenburg. "We are off to a great start, and will build on the
strong success of the Wikimedia Foundation's Wikipedia Education
Program to further engage educators, researchers and students to
provide more high-quality content for Wikipedia's readers."

Started by the Wikimedia Foundation in 2010, the Wikipedia Education
Program encourages students to contribute content to Wikipedia
articles on course-related subjects as part of classroom assignments
developed by their faculty and instructors. Over the past four years,
more than 6,000 students in the United States and Canada have
contributed content to Wikipedia as part of the Wikipedia Education
Program, adding the equivalent of 36,600 printed pages of content to
Wikipedia and significantly increasing the amount of high-quality
content that Wikipedia offers its half-billion readers.

In response to that success and to give the program more focused and
specialized support, in 2012 the Wikimedia Foundation began a process
to spin off the United States and Canada work into its own,
independent nonprofit organization. The resulting Wiki Education
Foundation was created in late 2013, and Schulenburg will be its first
executive director. The Wiki Education Foundation will continue to
support the Wikipedia Education Program in the United States and
Canada, and will develop additional programs to promote academic
research and teaching that engage with Wikipedia.

"I am delighted that Frank has agreed to lead the Wiki Education
Foundation as executive director," said Dr. Diana Strassmann, Carolyn
and Fred McManis Distinguished Professor in the Practice at Rice
University and chair of the board of the Wiki Education Foundation,
who began using Wikipedia as a teaching tool in her classes in 2007.
"Under Frank's leadership, the Wiki Education Foundation will continue
to expand engagement among educators, students, and Wikipedia, and
will continue to diversify the community of Wikipedians, while
improving the quality and depth of Wikipedia."

"Frank is the perfect person to lead the Wiki Education Foundation,"
said Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Sue Gardner. "Frank's a
very experienced Wikipedia contributor with a long track record of
inventing and leading successful programs that make Wikipedia better
and more useful for its readers. I am sorry we will lose him from the
Wikimedia Foundation, but I look forward to seeing the Wiki Education
Foundation thrive and succeed under his leadership."

A longtime Wikipedian and an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation
since 2008, Schulenburg has focused on broadening participation and
developing the public understanding of Wikipedia, especially among
subject matter experts. He has spoken globally about efforts to
increase the relevance of Wikipedia in academia. In 2006, he founded
Wikipedia Academy, an event aimed at cultivating dialogue between
Wikipedia contributors and academics. In 2009, he initiated the
Bookshelf Project, which created the first educational materials for
new Wikipedia contributors. In 2010 he designed and implemented the
Wikipedia Education Program. From 2012 on he was a member of the
executive management team of the Wikimedia Foundation, overseeing the
Wikipedia Education Program, Wikipedia Zero, and a new initiative to
evaluate the impact of programmatic activities across countries.
Schulenburg has been involved with Wikipedia since 2005, both as an
author and as a photographer.

The Wiki Education Foundation board conducted an extensive search for
an executive director before selecting Schulenburg. The board includes
educators from a variety of backgrounds, Wikipedia volunteers, and
other key stakeholders. The Wiki Education Foundation is currently
supporting university instructors in the United States and Canada.
Interested instructors are encouraged to send an email to
cont...@wikiedfoundation.org.


About the Wiki Education Foundation

The Wiki Education Foundation supports innovative uses of Wikipedia
and related projects in communities of teaching, learning, and inquiry
in the United States and Canada. The Foundation aims to improve the
breadth, scope, and quality of W

[Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia Announcements] (press release) Frank Schulenburg named executive director of new Wiki Education Foundation

[LiAnna Davis]

Forwarding on for those of you not on the Wikimedia Announcements list.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Jay Walsh 
Date: Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 1:16 PM
Subject: [Wikimedia Announcements] (press release) Frank Schulenburg named
executive director of new Wiki Education Foundation
To: "wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org" <
wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org>


Passing along for your information. This release is posted on the WMF wiki
at
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Frank_Schulenburg_named_executive_director_of_new_WEF

An accompanying Q&A can also be found here:
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/QA_Frank_Schulenburg_announcement_February_2014

---

Frank Schulenburg named executive director of new Wiki Education Foundation

(San Francisco, California) 12 February 2014 -- The Wiki Education
Foundation, a new nonprofit organization that supports the Wikipedia
Education Program in the United States and Canada, has named Frank
Schulenburg as its inaugural executive director. Schulenburg, formerly
senior director of programs at the Wikimedia Foundation, will begin
his new role February 18, 2014.

"I look forward to leading the Wiki Education Foundation," said
Schulenburg. "We are off to a great start, and will build on the
strong success of the Wikimedia Foundation's Wikipedia Education
Program to further engage educators, researchers and students to
provide more high-quality content for Wikipedia's readers."

Started by the Wikimedia Foundation in 2010, the Wikipedia Education
Program encourages students to contribute content to Wikipedia
articles on course-related subjects as part of classroom assignments
developed by their faculty and instructors. Over the past four years,
more than 6,000 students in the United States and Canada have
contributed content to Wikipedia as part of the Wikipedia Education
Program, adding the equivalent of 36,600 printed pages of content to
Wikipedia and significantly increasing the amount of high-quality
content that Wikipedia offers its half-billion readers.

In response to that success and to give the program more focused and
specialized support, in 2012 the Wikimedia Foundation began a process
to spin off the United States and Canada work into its own,
independent nonprofit organization. The resulting Wiki Education
Foundation was created in late 2013, and Schulenburg will be its first
executive director. The Wiki Education Foundation will continue to
support the Wikipedia Education Program in the United States and
Canada, and will develop additional programs to promote academic
research and teaching that engage with Wikipedia.

"I am delighted that Frank has agreed to lead the Wiki Education
Foundation as executive director," said Dr. Diana Strassmann, Carolyn
and Fred McManis Distinguished Professor in the Practice at Rice
University and chair of the board of the Wiki Education Foundation,
who began using Wikipedia as a teaching tool in her classes in 2007.
"Under Frank's leadership, the Wiki Education Foundation will continue
to expand engagement among educators, students, and Wikipedia, and
will continue to diversify the community of Wikipedians, while
improving the quality and depth of Wikipedia."

"Frank is the perfect person to lead the Wiki Education Foundation,"
said Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Sue Gardner. "Frank's a
very experienced Wikipedia contributor with a long track record of
inventing and leading successful programs that make Wikipedia better
and more useful for its readers. I am sorry we will lose him from the
Wikimedia Foundation, but I look forward to seeing the Wiki Education
Foundation thrive and succeed under his leadership."

A longtime Wikipedian and an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation
since 2008, Schulenburg has focused on broadening participation and
developing the public understanding of Wikipedia, especially among
subject matter experts. He has spoken globally about efforts to
increase the relevance of Wikipedia in academia. In 2006, he founded
Wikipedia Academy, an event aimed at cultivating dialogue between
Wikipedia contributors and academics. In 2009, he initiated the
Bookshelf Project, which created the first educational materials for
new Wikipedia contributors. In 2010 he designed and implemented the
Wikipedia Education Program. From 2012 on he was a member of the
executive management team of the Wikimedia Foundation, overseeing the
Wikipedia Education Program, Wikipedia Zero, and a new initiative to
evaluate the impact of programmatic activities across countries.
Schulenburg has been involved with Wikipedia since 2005, both as an
author and as a photographer.

The Wiki Education Foundation board conducted an extensive search for
an executive director before selecting Schulenburg. The board includes
educators from a variety of backgrounds, Wikipedia volunteers, and
other key stakeholders. The Wiki Education Foundation is currently
supporting university instructors in the United St

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Programmatic experience in past 2 years (was: Board decisions on movement funding and approval issues)

[phoebe ayers]

If a group was in the process of applying to affcom, we will consider then
case by case - this decision does not apply to groups in process.

If there's a group out there that had just talked about it but not talked
to affcom - we don't have a way of knowing about them! New groups who
haven't already talked to affcom and are trying to figure it out should
apply to be a user group.

Phoebe
On Feb 11, 2014 11:58 AM, "Pharos"  wrote:

> Certainly, in the last 2 years and before, a handful of Wikimedia
> volunteer groups have been quite as active and organized as those
> currently being classified as User Groups - only the option of being
> recognized as User Groups did not exist for them at the time of their
> founding.
>
> And it is a good thing that this category exists now, but is seems
> wrong to penalize Wikimedia volunteer groups that *do* have a track
> record of effective programmatic experience, just because they were
> started before the User Group category was in existence.
>
> Thanks,
> Richard
> (User:Pharos)
>
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:33 AM, phoebe ayers 
> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I want to draw your attention to two Wikimedia Board of Trustees
> decisions
> > that were recently published, regarding funds allocated to the FDC/Annual
> > plan grant process and Board approval of chapter/thematic organization
> > status. In a nutshell, the Board decided to allocate approximately the
> same
> > amount of funding to the FDC for the next two years. The Board also
> decided
> > that new organizations should first form as a user group and have two
> years
> > of programmatic experience before being approved as a legally
> incorporated
> > entity (either a chapter or thematic organization).
> >
> > The decisions are published in the meeting minutes here:
> > https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2013-11-24#Movement_roles
> >
> > There is also a FAQ on Meta:
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_roles_FAQ
> >
> > You will notice these decisions are published in the minutes for the
> > November meeting. We originally took these decisions at that meeting;
> > however as the FAQ explains it took us some time to talk to community
> > groups, clarify our wording and write the FAQ.
> >
> > Hopefully the FAQ will answer many of your questions about these
> decisions;
> > however, if there are other questions please do ask them, here or on the
> > meta talk page. Thank you!
> >
> > for the Board,
> > Phoebe
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Programmatic experience in past 2 years (was: Board decisions on movement funding and approval issues)

[phoebe ayers]

And to Pharos' point, for new groups i don't think becoming a penalty. If a
group goes from no Wikimedia recognition to being a user group they go from
no access to resources to access to the Wikimedia trademarks, access to
grants big and small, listing with other official groups...it's a big
change. Of course groups might want to become a chapter later on, but
that's not exactly always an easy process...
On Feb 12, 2014 1:20 PM, "phoebe ayers"  wrote:

> If a group was in the process of applying to affcom, we will consider then
> case by case - this decision does not apply to groups in process.
>
> If there's a group out there that had just talked about it but not talked
> to affcom - we don't have a way of knowing about them! New groups who
> haven't already talked to affcom and are trying to figure it out should
> apply to be a user group.
>
> Phoebe
> On Feb 11, 2014 11:58 AM, "Pharos"  wrote:
>
>> Certainly, in the last 2 years and before, a handful of Wikimedia
>> volunteer groups have been quite as active and organized as those
>> currently being classified as User Groups - only the option of being
>> recognized as User Groups did not exist for them at the time of their
>> founding.
>>
>> And it is a good thing that this category exists now, but is seems
>> wrong to penalize Wikimedia volunteer groups that *do* have a track
>> record of effective programmatic experience, just because they were
>> started before the User Group category was in existence.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Richard
>> (User:Pharos)
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:33 AM, phoebe ayers 
>> wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I want to draw your attention to two Wikimedia Board of Trustees
>> decisions
>> > that were recently published, regarding funds allocated to the
>> FDC/Annual
>> > plan grant process and Board approval of chapter/thematic organization
>> > status. In a nutshell, the Board decided to allocate approximately the
>> same
>> > amount of funding to the FDC for the next two years. The Board also
>> decided
>> > that new organizations should first form as a user group and have two
>> years
>> > of programmatic experience before being approved as a legally
>> incorporated
>> > entity (either a chapter or thematic organization).
>> >
>> > The decisions are published in the meeting minutes here:
>> > https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2013-11-24#Movement_roles
>> >
>> > There is also a FAQ on Meta:
>> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_roles_FAQ
>> >
>> > You will notice these decisions are published in the minutes for the
>> > November meeting. We originally took these decisions at that meeting;
>> > however as the FAQ explains it took us some time to talk to community
>> > groups, clarify our wording and write the FAQ.
>> >
>> > Hopefully the FAQ will answer many of your questions about these
>> decisions;
>> > however, if there are other questions please do ask them, here or on the
>> > meta talk page. Thank you!
>> >
>> > for the Board,
>> > Phoebe
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Programmatic experience in past 2 years (was: Board decisions on movement funding and approval issues)

[phoebe ayers]

Oops, sorry for typos (and top posting, I'm on my phone). I meant to say I
don't think becoming a user group is a penalty.
On Feb 12, 2014 1:26 PM, "phoebe ayers"  wrote:

> And to Pharos' point, for new groups i don't think becoming a penalty. If
> a group goes from no Wikimedia recognition to being a user group they go
> from no access to resources to access to the Wikimedia trademarks, access
> to grants big and small, listing with other official groups...it's a big
> change. Of course groups might want to become a chapter later on, but
> that's not exactly always an easy process...
> On Feb 12, 2014 1:20 PM, "phoebe ayers"  wrote:
>
>> If a group was in the process of applying to affcom, we will consider
>> then case by case - this decision does not apply to groups in process.
>>
>> If there's a group out there that had just talked about it but not talked
>> to affcom - we don't have a way of knowing about them! New groups who
>> haven't already talked to affcom and are trying to figure it out should
>> apply to be a user group.
>>
>> Phoebe
>> On Feb 11, 2014 11:58 AM, "Pharos"  wrote:
>>
>>> Certainly, in the last 2 years and before, a handful of Wikimedia
>>> volunteer groups have been quite as active and organized as those
>>> currently being classified as User Groups - only the option of being
>>> recognized as User Groups did not exist for them at the time of their
>>> founding.
>>>
>>> And it is a good thing that this category exists now, but is seems
>>> wrong to penalize Wikimedia volunteer groups that *do* have a track
>>> record of effective programmatic experience, just because they were
>>> started before the User Group category was in existence.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Richard
>>> (User:Pharos)
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:33 AM, phoebe ayers 
>>> wrote:
>>> > Hi all,
>>> >
>>> > I want to draw your attention to two Wikimedia Board of Trustees
>>> decisions
>>> > that were recently published, regarding funds allocated to the
>>> FDC/Annual
>>> > plan grant process and Board approval of chapter/thematic organization
>>> > status. In a nutshell, the Board decided to allocate approximately the
>>> same
>>> > amount of funding to the FDC for the next two years. The Board also
>>> decided
>>> > that new organizations should first form as a user group and have two
>>> years
>>> > of programmatic experience before being approved as a legally
>>> incorporated
>>> > entity (either a chapter or thematic organization).
>>> >
>>> > The decisions are published in the meeting minutes here:
>>> > https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Minutes/2013-11-24#Movement_roles
>>> >
>>> > There is also a FAQ on Meta:
>>> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_roles_FAQ
>>> >
>>> > You will notice these decisions are published in the minutes for the
>>> > November meeting. We originally took these decisions at that meeting;
>>> > however as the FAQ explains it took us some time to talk to community
>>> > groups, clarify our wording and write the FAQ.
>>> >
>>> > Hopefully the FAQ will answer many of your questions about these
>>> decisions;
>>> > however, if there are other questions please do ask them, here or on
>>> the
>>> > meta talk page. Thank you!
>>> >
>>> > for the Board,
>>> > Phoebe
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board decisions on movement funding and approval issues

[Mathias Damour]

Le 12/02/2014 03:14, Mark a écrit :

On 2/11/14, 9:18 PM, Samuel Klein wrote:

The WMF also wants to let all groups have easier access to trademarks
and funds.  This is what user groups were designed to allow, with
minimal overhead.  These two ideas were combined into "be a user group
for two years".



This part I do think is a good idea. There are many models of how 
individuals and groups participate and organize themselves within the 
global Wikimedia movement besides the umbrella Wikimedia Foundation, 
and imo the previous organizational/funding focus overlooked those who 
didn't fit one specific model: national Chapters, i.e. organizations 
seeking to represent Wikimedia-movement activities in a general sense, 
within the territory of one nation-state, and usually in a fairly 
"official" manner (paid staff, boards of directors, political 
visibility, etc.).


Yes, that's exactly what I want to keep and see developing in my 
country, to achieve reliability, acknowledgment by third people, etc.


I like that initiatives such as the individual-engagement grants, 
user-group recognition, etc. are opening up more avenues for 
Wikimedian organizations, organized along different lines, to find a 
more recognized (and funded) role in the movement.


I like them too, saved I want it to be supervised by my chapter rather 
than the WMF !


Mark, may you "disclose" which country you are from/live in ? I am from 
France, living in France.


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] (press release) Frank Schulenburg named executive director of new Wiki Education Foundation

[Andy Mabbett]

"
On 12 February 2014 21:16, Jay Walsh  wrote:

[...]

Congratulations to Frank, but...

> The Wiki Education
> Foundation, a new nonprofit organization that supports the Wikipedia
> Education Program in the United States and Canada

...why isn't this called "The Wiki Education North America
Foundation,", or suchlike?

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Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board decisions on movement funding and approval issues

[Mark]

On 2/12/14, 10:55 PM, Mathias Damour wrote:
I like that initiatives such as the individual-engagement grants, 
user-group recognition, etc. are opening up more avenues for 
Wikimedian organizations, organized along different lines, to find a 
more recognized (and funded) role in the movement.


I like them too, saved I want it to be supervised by my chapter rather 
than the WMF !


Mark, may you "disclose" which country you are from/live in ? I am 
from France, living in France. 


Since you asked: I am Greek by ethnicity, I live in Denmark, and I 
mostly grew up in the USA. So I guess, no one country? That is part of 
what causes my discomfort with nation-state-based organizations, because 
I fit in none of them particularly well. Should I orient my activities 
under Wikimedia Denmark, where I live? But I am not Danish, and I speak 
the language poorly. Maybe Wikimedia Greece? I don't live there, and 
haven't really in a long time, though I do speak Greek and have the 
right genetics. Maybe some kind of Wikimedia USA? I don't live there 
either, though I used to, and I do speak English well. What I feel most 
comfortable in is a global movement that does not require me to prove 
allegiance/membership in any particular country; deciding which country 
my Wikimedia participation belongs to seems decidedly unhelpful, for me 
personally.


In other projects this doesn't seem to be as big of a deal. I'm a heavy 
participant in OpenStreetMap, which is an organization legally based in 
the UK. That's a country I have no connection to at all. But it doesn't 
really matter, because the OSM Foundation does things I benefit from, 
since they aren't really UK-specific: they maintain the servers, 
maintain and develop the software, look after the legal situation of the 
project, etc. As a map editor, I have no complaints with their 
stewardship of the core project. Of course, actual mapping activities 
happen on a distributed basis (it is difficult to map Denmark well, if 
you don't live here), but that doesn't mean there is anything wrong with 
letting the UK organization continue to manage maintenance of the 
servers and software.


-Mark


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] (press release) Frank Schulenburg named executive director of new Wiki Education Foundation

[Liam Wyatt]

On 13 February 2014 10:04, Andy Mabbett  wrote:

> "
> On 12 February 2014 21:16, Jay Walsh  wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> Congratulations to Frank, but...
>
> > The Wiki Education
> > Foundation, a new nonprofit organization that supports the Wikipedia
> > Education Program in the United States and Canada
>
> ...why isn't this called "The Wiki Education North America
> Foundation,", or suchlike?
>
> --


Good question Andy!
Moreover, as this is an independent organisation, why does the fact of it
getting a director deserve a WMF press-release? For comparison, has the
hiring of senior staff for any of the Chapters received a WMF-written press
release?
Nevertheless, I'm very pleased to see the WMF's "pseudo chapter"
direct-outreach activity spun out to being an independent organisation that
has to fight for grant money on a level-playing with the other
organisations that apply for WMF money. It will now have to justify why
fee-charging US universities need our donors money to support
editing-traning programs more than other programs that aren't WMF
originated or USA-focused. Relatedly, I note that on the Q&A that the
organisation is "Based in San Francisco" - I hope this means that it is not
getting free accommodation in the WMF offices as I'm sure there's lots of
other independent groups that would like free office space too.

-Liam
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[Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost -- Volume 10, Issue 6 -- 12 February 2014

[Wikipedia Signpost]

News and notes: WMF bites the bullet on affiliation and FDC funding, elevates 
Wikimedia user groups
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2014-02-12/News_and_notes

In the media: WikiVIP; Art Feminism; Medical articles; PR manipulation; 
Azerbaijani Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2014-02-12/In_the_media

Featured content: Space selfie
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2014-02-12/Featured_content

Traffic report: Sports Day
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2014-02-12/Traffic_report

WikiProject report: Game Time in Russia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2014-02-12/WikiProject_report

Technology report: Left with no choice
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2014-02-12/Technology_report


Single page view
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signpost/Single

PDF version
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book:Wikipedia_Signpost/2014-02-12


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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] (press release) Frank Schulenburg named executive director of new Wiki Education Foundation

[Jan-Bart de Vreede]

Hi

On 13 Feb 2014, at 04:46, Liam Wyatt  wrote:

> Good question Andy!
> Moreover, as this is an independent organisation, why does the fact of it
> getting a director deserve a WMF press-release? For comparison, has the
> hiring of senior staff for any of the Chapters received a WMF-written press
> release?

Because the director happens to be an extremely valued long time member of the 
senior staff of the Wikimedia Foundation. 



>  I note that on the Q&A that the
> organisation is "Based in San Francisco" - I hope this means that it is not
> getting free accommodation in the WMF offices as I'm sure there's lots of
> other independent groups that would like free office space too.
> 

Assuming good faith would be a good start here. Funny thing is… Frank moved to 
San Francisco for his work at the Wikimedia Foundation (and built up a life 
there), so that could also be a logical reason for the office being based there 
(and in fact I think that is the reason, because the last I heard the Wiki 
Education Foundation will not be located in the Wikimedia Foundation office)

Rather than just answer your concerns I want to take the opportunity to 
congratulate Frank on this move. While he will be sorely missed at the 
Wikimedia Foundation this step makes sense for him personally. The fact that he 
will remain part of our movement helps make this a little less painful. I am 
sure that in his new capacity he will continue to move mountains to further our 
goals. I wish him the best of luck and hope that the Wiki Education Foundation 
becomes a great succes.

Jan-Bart de Vreede
Chair
Board of Trustees
Wikimedia Foundation





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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost -- Volume 10, Issue 6 -- 12 February 2014

[מאור מלול]

מאור מלולmao...@outlook.com


> To: wikimediaannounc...@lists.wikimedia.org
> From: wikipediasignp...@gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 03:53:24 +
> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] The Signpost -- Volume 10,   
> Issue 6 -- 12 February 2014
> 
> News and notes: WMF bites the bullet on affiliation and FDC funding, elevates 
> Wikimedia user groups
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2014-02-12/News_and_notes
> 

" after considerable post-meeting consultation with the FDC and the 
Affiliations Committee (AffCom)" 

I'd like to know how they measured "considerable". 

PRESS

  
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Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikimedia Announcements] (press release) Frank Schulenburg named executive director of new Wiki Education Foundation

[Meno25]

Great news and congratulations to Frank.

--User:Meno25


On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 11:16 PM, Jay Walsh  wrote:

> Passing along for your information. This release is posted on the WMF wiki
> at
>
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Frank_Schulenburg_named_executive_director_of_new_WEF
>
> An accompanying Q&A can also be found here:
>
> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/QA_Frank_Schulenburg_announcement_February_2014
>
> ---
>
> Frank Schulenburg named executive director of new Wiki Education Foundation
>
> (San Francisco, California) 12 February 2014 -- The Wiki Education
> Foundation, a new nonprofit organization that supports the Wikipedia
> Education Program in the United States and Canada, has named Frank
> Schulenburg as its inaugural executive director. Schulenburg, formerly
> senior director of programs at the Wikimedia Foundation, will begin
> his new role February 18, 2014.
>
> "I look forward to leading the Wiki Education Foundation," said
> Schulenburg. "We are off to a great start, and will build on the
> strong success of the Wikimedia Foundation's Wikipedia Education
> Program to further engage educators, researchers and students to
> provide more high-quality content for Wikipedia's readers."
>
> Started by the Wikimedia Foundation in 2010, the Wikipedia Education
> Program encourages students to contribute content to Wikipedia
> articles on course-related subjects as part of classroom assignments
> developed by their faculty and instructors. Over the past four years,
> more than 6,000 students in the United States and Canada have
> contributed content to Wikipedia as part of the Wikipedia Education
> Program, adding the equivalent of 36,600 printed pages of content to
> Wikipedia and significantly increasing the amount of high-quality
> content that Wikipedia offers its half-billion readers.
>
> In response to that success and to give the program more focused and
> specialized support, in 2012 the Wikimedia Foundation began a process
> to spin off the United States and Canada work into its own,
> independent nonprofit organization. The resulting Wiki Education
> Foundation was created in late 2013, and Schulenburg will be its first
> executive director. The Wiki Education Foundation will continue to
> support the Wikipedia Education Program in the United States and
> Canada, and will develop additional programs to promote academic
> research and teaching that engage with Wikipedia.
>
> "I am delighted that Frank has agreed to lead the Wiki Education
> Foundation as executive director," said Dr. Diana Strassmann, Carolyn
> and Fred McManis Distinguished Professor in the Practice at Rice
> University and chair of the board of the Wiki Education Foundation,
> who began using Wikipedia as a teaching tool in her classes in 2007.
> "Under Frank's leadership, the Wiki Education Foundation will continue
> to expand engagement among educators, students, and Wikipedia, and
> will continue to diversify the community of Wikipedians, while
> improving the quality and depth of Wikipedia."
>
> "Frank is the perfect person to lead the Wiki Education Foundation,"
> said Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Sue Gardner. "Frank's a
> very experienced Wikipedia contributor with a long track record of
> inventing and leading successful programs that make Wikipedia better
> and more useful for its readers. I am sorry we will lose him from the
> Wikimedia Foundation, but I look forward to seeing the Wiki Education
> Foundation thrive and succeed under his leadership."
>
> A longtime Wikipedian and an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation
> since 2008, Schulenburg has focused on broadening participation and
> developing the public understanding of Wikipedia, especially among
> subject matter experts. He has spoken globally about efforts to
> increase the relevance of Wikipedia in academia. In 2006, he founded
> Wikipedia Academy, an event aimed at cultivating dialogue between
> Wikipedia contributors and academics. In 2009, he initiated the
> Bookshelf Project, which created the first educational materials for
> new Wikipedia contributors. In 2010 he designed and implemented the
> Wikipedia Education Program. From 2012 on he was a member of the
> executive management team of the Wikimedia Foundation, overseeing the
> Wikipedia Education Program, Wikipedia Zero, and a new initiative to
> evaluate the impact of programmatic activities across countries.
> Schulenburg has been involved with Wikipedia since 2005, both as an
> author and as a photographer.
>
> The Wiki Education Foundation board conducted an extensive search for
> an executive director before selecting Schulenburg. The board includes
> educators from a variety of backgrounds, Wikipedia volunteers, and
> other key stakeholders. The Wiki Education Foundation is currently
> supporting university instructors in the United States and Canada.
> Interested instructors are encouraged to send an email to
> cont...@wikiedfoundation.org.
>
>

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board decisions on movement funding and approval issues

[Gerard Meijssen]

Hoi,
Yes, people employed by the WMF working from outside the USA exis. They are
very much part of what WMF does and, there is no "trickle back" to the
local countries really. They are part of the WMF structure and their
priorities are the WMF priorities.

There is a huge potential outside the USA and I am sorry but this is not
reflected in the way priorities are set, programmes are developed,
technology is assessed and implemented. While I do agree that many of the
arguments made for programmes are sound, there is this lack of focus for
what the relevance is outside of the USA/ English speaking world and it
effectively prevents many things from happening on our shared globe.
Thanks,
 GerardM


On 12 February 2014 18:01, Delirium  wrote:

> On 2/11/14, 9:14 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
>
>> There are two areas where the Wikimedia Foundation is active; the USA
>> where
>> it is active through both chapters and the office in San Francisco. The
>> rest of the world where it is active through chapters and whatever.
>>
>>  Well, you did leave out a few of the countries in the WMF is active,
> mainly by paying staff located there to work on things ranging from the
> Visual Editor to core MediaWiki development to internationalization to
> analytics: Netherlands, Spain, Canada, Austria, Australia, UK, Czech
> Republic, Croatia, Israel, India, Finland...
>
> -Mark
>
>
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