[Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia-mania
Thought this might be interesting read. Just read it today. Apologies if someone has already posted it. Wikipedia-mania Read Story: http://www.ndtv.com/article/world/wikipedia-mania-468968 - Shared via NDTV News Android App http://ndtv.com/apps - Regards, Debanjan ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] accommodation in Delhi - can some one help?
There are various pgs as well as cheap but decent hotels that would be available here. Areas near Karol Bagh and Paharganj would give you various cheap hotels, though Paharganj wouldn't be the best idea. Still, I've stayed in Hotel Shelton http://www.booking.com/hotel/in/shelton.html in Paharganj and it's very near the metro and not too bad either. Also in current weather, you will get a decent non ac room for around 900 bucks. Other than that checking online would give you access to better accommodation. There are lots of people who would love to rent their pgs or apartments as at this time most students go back home for holidays. Karol Bagh side would be slightly more expensive ~ 1600. I stay near Karol Bagh, so if you require any help, please inform me. These areas are very well connected via Metro and close to the New Delhi Railway station. Other areas will drive up the cost, esp in South Delhi. I myself would've joined this workshop but my schedule might not permit it. Feel free to drop me a message or call if you need any assistance. I'm not sharing my number as this is an open list, but drop me a separate email, and I'll help out the best way I can. On 25 December 2013 00:03, Dhaval S. Vyas dsv...@gmail.com wrote: Gujarati Samaj in old delhi, is very affordable, not sure how far your venue is from there though. This place is conveniently located for Delhi Metro, 5 min walk from ISBT. But I think you need to have one Gujarati in your group. Regards, Dhaval On 24 Dec 2013 18:18, Sowmyan Tirumurti tsowm...@wikimedia.in wrote: While we plan to be in Delhi from 29th Dec to 8th Jan for the GLAM project, our effort to get guest house accommodation at Delhi University South Campus for this period did not materialize. Can any one help us with some affordable source of accommodation? We are looking for accommodation for 4 people. Two people from 29/31Dec to 8 Jan, and two people from 2 Jan to 6 Jan. Regards, Sowmyan 9632911650 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Debanjan Bandyopadhyay (wikiuser:debasteinhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Debastein ) *- Lets make this world a better and more informative place* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Wikipedia Kolkata Meetup 10 Report
Dear all, Firstly let me begin with tons and tons of apologies as I am terribly late with this report and in no way can I justify being such late. Unfortunately, due to various reasons primarily studies and traveling, I could not come out with this faster. Wikipedians in Kolkata met for the 10th time at Atmabikash Samiti on the 19th of Hamy, 2012. There was a large number of members upto at least 10 people, my memory is a bit clouded now. Incidentally, being a bengali and well as being born and brought up in Kolkata, this was my first meetup with the Kolkata community. I had just met Jayanta da at WikiConference 11 where we shared our stories of Wikipedia. To be honest, it was one of the warmest welcomes I've received. The meetup started with informal introductions, as I knew none and other than Jayanta da, none knew me. I told them my story of IEP student to Campus Ambassador to editor and promoter of the Wikimedia movement, while they each told me theirs. The date on which it was held, 19th May, was also special, which was unknown to many of us and this was highlighted by guest of honour, Dr. Mohit K Ray, who has a Ph D in Engineering and is an Environmental Consultant. We all know about 21st February http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/February_21which started the Bengali Language Movement http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengali_Language_Movement, now celebrated as International Mother Language Day. However, it is unknown to most of us that an event of equivalent importance occurred on the 19th of May also in our country. The event which was not initially on Wikipedia and has now been added reads, 1961 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1961 – 11 bengali martyrs gave up their life in a police firing in Silcharhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SilcharRailway Station, Assam http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assam, while demanding state recognition of bengali language in the Bengali Language Movementhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bengali_Language_Movement#Legacy. Dr. Ray highlighted how little is know about such an event within our own country. He also discussed the growing separation in linguistic differences between the bengali language spoken by Indians, (i.e. West Bengali) and the bengali language spoken by Bangladesh. He also cited how the history of Bengali language is bifurcating into two streams based on these differences. However, after and intense discussion as to what then should be the future of Wikipedia, Jayanta da pointed out that till date, other than a few spelling disputes, there have not been too many arguments between Indian (Bengali) Wikipedians and Bangladeshi Wikipedians regarding Bengali Wikipedia. In fact the collaboration that both countries enjoy is unique in its own in that the two countries are united by bengali wikipedia sharing common goals and interests. Other than this pivotal topic, other topics discussed brought forward by both Jayanta da, Kalyan da, myself as well as everyone present were: 1. How Bengali Wikipedia is increasing day by day. 2. How it the need of the hour is to increase Indian editors in Bengali Wikipedia as Jayanta da pointed out in WCI 11, (95% contribs are from Bangladesh). 3. How to engage various institutes and libraries into putting content into Wikipedia. 4. How to engage the already interested youth of West Bengal into editing Wikipedia. (As in previous instances, they have already showed a lot of energy and interest). 5. How to better conduct meetups, and spread the news about the meetups. However, each of these topics required vast discussions and as such, it was decided to put these on the agenda list for the next meetup. We all shared a cup of tea and the meeting was put to a close. I've tried to keep this report as short and simple as possible. My experience with the Kolkata community was truly wonderful and am proud to be part of such a bunch of warm loving individuals who accepted me into their inner circle without having to jump too many hoops. I hope I can keep on contributing to their efforts in every which way I can in the future. Wish the Kolkata community all the best for the next discussion. Just a few points of observation (my two paisa): 1. The discussions need more control and organization. Most of us generally started on the same topic but the discussion kept on spiraling to a whole bunch of different topics which Kalyan da kept on mentioning. 2. Due to the absence of a laptop, we could not do any online editing. Though this was the result of confusion, maybe we could have a rotating system of who brings the laptop in time. 3. We need to plan more frequent meetups so that as a community we can function better. 4. If possible have online editing sessions, because as a community only a handful of the people were really experienced with editing, most of the people present were very new with just a few edits clocked in. If we want to be taken seriously, everyone must edit and build up their own experience, otherwise we will never figure out what
[Wikimediaindia-l] Rare Book Society of India
Hi all, I just saw this pagehttps://www.facebook.com/pages/Rare-Book-Society-of-India/196174216674[1] on facebook, it supposedly belongs to the Rare Book Society of India and they have a lot of old images, older than 60 years. Hence, do you think these can be uploaded to Wikipedia and maybe we can ask them whether they themselves would like to do as such. If am not wrong, maybe the GLAM team would know more about this? [1] - https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rare-Book-Society-of-India/196174216674 -- Regards, Debanjan* - Lets make this world a better and more informative place* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Rare Book Society of India
No I don't know about any of the legal formalities, hence asking do we need to contact them and ask whether they are willing...I mean, do they hold the copyright esp to photos of buildings also that are over 60 years old (the photos not the buildings). On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 1:34 PM, Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: 2012/5/16 Debanjan Bandyopadhyay debast...@gmail.com: Hi all, I just saw this page [1] on facebook, it supposedly belongs to the Rare Book Society of India and they have a lot of old images, older than 60 years. Hence, do you think these can be uploaded to Wikipedia and maybe we can ask them whether they themselves would like to do as such. If am not wrong, maybe the GLAM team would know more about this? [1] - https://www.facebook.com/pages/Rare-Book-Society-of-India/196174216674 That Facebook page has lots of beautiful images and not just of books. Any way you can get them is good, but uploading them as DjVu files would help transcribing them in Wikisource. -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com “We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Debanjan* - Lets make this world a better and more informative place* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Vodafone advertisement -- Internet is fun, Wikipedia
Don't know about free, but their detailed adhttp://www.vodafone.in/internetisfun/pages/home.aspx?cid=kol[1] mentions two things beneficial to our cause...Seems all this much outreach is finally working... 1. Access more than 21 million articles in 285 languages - Hope people now realise Wikipedia is more than just English Wikipedia. 2. Create and edit your own articles. - Don't know how risky the statement is but the fact that Wikipedia can be edited is now widespread. I just hope people don't think Vodafone lets you edit Wikipedia and that otherwise Wikipedia can't be edited. [1] http://www.vodafone.in/internetisfun/pages/home.aspx?cid=kol On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Mitra. Though I think someone should get in touch with Vodafone IN and find out more info. On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:55 PM, Mitra sharma mittyko...@gmail.comwrote: I think its a great start! It tells you Wiki is fun and its available at your on your phone now...and its aired during matches, so it should help create awarenessWay to go guys! :) On 14 May 2012 11:31, Karthik Nadar karthik...@gmail.com wrote: The video doesn't mention if the access is free, and hence i neither think so. Great ad tough, I liked it! On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Here's the ad: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwqNdhzUPpMfeature=plcp Is it free access or something? On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I just saw an ad mentioning Wikipedia on the Internet is fun series of advertisement aired during IPL. It would probably be available soon at their youtube channel[1]. Are we missing any announcement or its just that Vodafone is using Wikipedia in their advertisements. Nonetheless, good branding on television :) [1] http://www.youtube.com/user/vodafoneipl/videos -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Thanks and Regards, *Karthik Nadar.* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Debanjan* - Lets make this world a better and more informative place* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mediawiki version upgrade
Hi Dhaval, Am just curious, being from the non-technical field and all. If there is a problem with respect to IE7, should the problem lie with Microsoft? I mean, can the bug be fixed? I mean no offense and if the bug can be fixed, it should be done, everyone has their browser preferences that they are comfortable with and am sure Arun meant it as a joke. But if the bug is not fixed and the update is applied, would it be possible for you to temporarily shift to another browser till the bug is fixed, since it is already filed? On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Dhaval S. Vyas dsv...@gmail.com wrote: Arun, Are you really in senses? If so, why don't you take my case? Mark/All, Please close this bug and don't do anything to resolve the issue, as someone in this world thinks its my personal problem. Please that smartest lot and close the bug. Regards, Dhaval Regards, Dhaval On 11 May 2012 09:30, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 2:56 AM, Dhaval S. Vyas dsv...@gmail.com wrote: Yes Mark, it is the one. Will really appreciate if it is fixed ASAP! On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 9:12 PM, Mark A. Hershberger m...@wikimedia.orgwrote: On 05/10/2012 04:07 PM, Dhaval S. Vyas wrote: There is already bug filed nearly a couple of weeks back, but no resolution till date. It might be worth considering before moving to upgrade if at all you think that people out there might still be using IE7 (like me) and they may need to edit. I think the right thing to do is to fix the policy at your workplace to use another browser. this is a human right violation :) Is this the bug? Edit tools and Narayam not working in gujarati wikis (IE7) https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/36275 I will try and get it fixed ASAP. -- Mark A. Hershberger Bugmeister Wikimedia foundation...@wikimedia.org ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- j.mp/ArunGanesh http://j.mp/ArunGanesh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Debanjan* - Lets make this world a better and more informative place* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Mediawiki version upgrade
Dhaval, I meant no offence in anyway, I was pointing out the same, that using a particular browser is upto them, its there choice and this meant not only you but like Srikanth pointed out 4% of users. I just asked it you could edit temporarily while the bug was being fixed. The question was whether or not the bug should be fixed, the question was, whether it would deter your contributions. But I hope the issue is resolved now as Srikanth pointed out. Happy editing. :) On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 3:32 PM, Dhaval S. Vyas dsv...@gmail.com wrote: Arun, Are you really in senses? If so, why don't you take my case? Mark/All, Please close this bug and don't do anything to resolve the issue, as someone in this world thinks its my personal problem. Please that smartest lot and close the bug. Dhaval, As you would have got the update by now, a fix was made and bug is on its way to closure (with a resolution.) post deployment[1]. There is no need to take offense on Arun's comment. It probably came because he was bothered more about the lack of choice at certain places than the technicalities given that lot of us value freedom and choice. Nonetheless, IE7 should still be supported as it still gets 4% (861 M) of all page requests[2] to Wikimedia. There would be hundreds of people who might have the choice but prefer to use IE7 as their choice for reasons up to them and bugs are welcome on IE7 as long as its still in use and supported by Microsoft. [1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=36275#c10 [2] http://stats.wikimedia.org/wikimedia/squids/SquidReportClients.htm -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Debanjan* - Lets make this world a better and more informative place* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Ads Injected into Wikipedia?
Hmmm...that maybe true but what else can we do, I mean, Inkfruit has to be involved somewhere in this right? Think about it, if you were an ad injecting virus, why would you randomly inject ads that too of inkfruit? For people who face these ads, are the ads appearing only on wikipedia or other websites also? If I am not wrong, if this is the work of a malware, it would display the ad on each and every website you visit and not just specifically Wikipedia. If its only Wikipedia and the ad is only Inkfruit, I'd really say, if nothing can be done via code, legal needs to be involved. If its a non-specific malware, just clean your systems, I guess and inform others. Rather, I'd say, instead of not going public with this, if it gets too frequent, go public. Display a banner on top of Wiki stating that if you see ads on Wikipedia that is not at all related to Wiki, rather you should check your system for malware. The point is people should not assume, that Wikipedia has started ads. On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 1:01 PM, Anirudh Bhati anirudh...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Debanjan Bandyopadhyay debast...@gmail.com wrote: Ok then can we not make the default version the https one like say google does. This will not be a permanent solution, I'm afraid. anirudh ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Debanjan* - Lets make this world a better and more informative place* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-I] Report on NSEC outreach
Dear all, I am extremely sorry that this report is long overdue but as I was busy with my exams and other stuff, I literally did not get time to compile this. This is related to the Wikipedia Stall I helped set up in Netaji Subhash Engineering College, Kolkata. NSEC had their annual techno-management fest, Avenir, 2012 from 16th - 18th March, around the time I got back to Kolkata from Pune during my prep leave. As there was already a WikiAcademy, in NSEC, I tried to procure a lab for an editothon, however, Sucheta who awesomely spearheaded everything for me from her college part informed me that labs were not available, however, a stall was. I sent out to set up the stall for the three day fest. I contacted the local community as well as the India Programs team as this was my first ever Outreach that I organized. I sent a mail on both the India mailing list as well as the West Bengal mailing list. Unfortunately, there was a lack of volunteers as almost everyone was busy. On day 1, Sucheta accompanied me at the stall for the whole day, however, on Day 2 even she was busy with her own fest work. Also Day 1 saw much better numbers that Day 2 and as I was not available on Day 3, Day 3 was dropped completely. The pros and the cons are as follows: The Cons: 1. There was serious lack of volunteers and hence at times I felt very overburdened having to deal with over 10 people at one go. 2. Lack of banners/posters - Though this might not be a big issue but as there was no large poster available. It was very difficult to inform people about the stall. I tried my best with A4 documents I printed myself, but the problem still remained because of the size. 3. Lack of numbers - Perhaps this might be my take, but am used to fests in the Pune/Mumbai circuit and hence the numbers to me, seemed very less, although I was informed this was the largest turnout, even more than last year. Still on Day 1, about 30 people at most visited the stall. On Day 2, the number was far less. The Pros: 1. I was highly impressed with the amount in interest in Kolkata. The students were not only highly interested, they had an array of curious questions. 2. Certain students even waited for me to finish with others so that they could get a deeper understanding of Wikipedia and even do some hands on. 3. Two students were so interested, they were coming back again and again and I even helped them upload pics to their user profile. 4. One student, User:Sanu531 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sanu5311 first tried a live edit uploaded his own pic and updated his user page himself. In my opinion, if there is this level of interest, I think, a student club of types could do wonders here. I did not create any page on WMIN as this was only a stall, however, I did upload pics herehttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:NSEC_Kolkata_Outreach 2. Also as there was no flier/handout available for such I tried to make a very rookie version in both Bengali and English back to back in one page, here http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kolkata_Outreach_Doc.pdf3. Special thanks to Nitika Tandon for the Presentations which enabled me to create the poster as well as the whole of India Teams for the support as well as both the India and Bengali Community for the encouragement. 1 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Sanu531 2 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:NSEC_Kolkata_Outreach 3 http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kolkata_Outreach_Doc.pdf -- Regards, Debanjan* - Lets make this world a better and more informative place* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wikimedians work for personal satisfaction, not politics or personal gain
Seriously? I don't mean to be rude here but I'd really don't think that is the way it was meant to be interpreted. I mean, if I say Ashwin is kind-hearted, doesn't mean I'm calling every other community member heartless. My two paise. On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 10:59 PM, Arjun Mangol Kanoth arjun.man...@gmail.com wrote: Can't we just consider the comment as applying to every Wikipedian in India, after all, for outsiders who don't know our diversity, we're just Indians. I'm quite sure he didn't mean what was interpreted :) On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 9:57 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: (In response to a certain remark in ‘Malayalam Wikipedia could be emulated’) (url - http://expressbuzz.com/topnews/%E2%80%98malayalam-wikipedia-could-be-emulated%E2%80%99/386803.html ) The Malayalam Wikimedian community definitely deserves kudos. A diverse bunch of people volunteered their effort and skills gratis for many years to build up what is already a major educational aid in Malayalam. This will play an actual positive role in community development and that is what the greatest reward to the participants. We are confident that they will go on with their exemplary work and prove to be sources of inspiration to us all in the years to come. That kind of satisfaction, at being part of something bigger than oneself and being able to make a difference in the world, motivates Wikimedians all over the world, as it does in India also. Human nature causes wikimedians to look to the statements of WMF officials for encouragement, advice and guidance (though imho they should not). In this context, Newstead's comment at the Wikisangamotsav in Kollam last weekend - they don’t focus on politics or personal gains - can be construed as mischievous in the worst case and mistaken in the best. Though the WMF does dole out some grants to individuals and communities, all Wikimedians are essentially unpaid volunteers, the vast majority of which do not have access to resources provided by the Foundation. Such a remark casts aspersions wrongly on the rest of the Indian wikipedian community, giving the casual reader the idea that the Malayalam Wikimedians are paragons of virtue while the remainder of the Indian Wikimedian community “focus on politics and personal gain”. The remark indicates a deep distrust of the WMF for the general community for reasons best known to them. Such a remark is hardly constructive in motivating the entire bunch of Indian Wikimedians who, as a collective whole, are making extremely valuable contributions to society despite being unpaid volunteers and at the cost of a large amount of personal time and often at their own expense. The question arises at what could be the reason for politics and what personal gains are to be found in doing Wikipedia editing or outreach? Satisfaction, learning, peer approval, interaction with intelligent fellow-believers, social service and fun are the personal gains for editors - all legitimate rewards which one can partake off with integrity and pride. Politics arises when scarce resources are pursued by many. It cannot be money, since all funds in Wikipedia are in the hands of the Foundation which directly receives donations. Nor is it power, as the community insists on it being a society of equals. The India Chapter with its few executive members and completely budgetted by the WMF and with its limited role mandate cannot be considered worthy target of Newstead’s remark either. So what politics are we talking about and who is it that Newstead is referring to? Perhaps the WMF feels offended by the criticism from Wikimedians worldwide at the failure of a flagship educational program in India last year or perhaps at local criticism in their mode of operation in India and the cost-benefit analysis of their country program where hundreds of thousands of dollars have been poured in with mediocre results. Newstead may feel unhappy about these issues but public statements like these do not add to the confidence of the community in the WMF either. In today's world, participants in citizen science or collaborative projects such as Wikipedia expect the highest levels of transparency, democracy and debate - in part, Wikipedia’s open ethos itself is responsible for the extremely democratic aspirations of participants. Wikipedians routinely engage in large debates on major and minute issues. They absorb from their experience in the Project the idea that all action is open for debate and that such criticism/dissent is not only constructive but vital. It would be a strange quirk of fate, should an office-bearer of WMF feel threatened by the values encouraged by their own projects. This distrust may also be seen as a clash of cultures - on one side, a corporate culture where actions are expected to be accepted at face value and not to be justified to those not in power, and on the other, an
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimediaindia-I] {{WM-IN}} Invitation template
I put it on the noticeboard also and after you told me, sent on the english list only. On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 5:21 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Specifically, do NOT use the mailing list, this or the English list as a replacement for on wiki discussions. Discuss it on noticeboards, as not all users subscribe to the list. Cheers. -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Debanjan* - Lets make this world a better and more informative place* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimediaindia-I] {{WM-IN}} Invitation template
Hey all,
I was thinking maybe we can change the current invitation template code to
this one, User:Debastein/WP:India
Invitehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Debastein/WP:India_Invite.
Basically, this would enable any user to give a custom message and sign
easily using the *{{WM-IN|message= |sign=}}* functions.
Also this would recognize the user name in the talk page and automatically
input it.
If we use this code, then even if someone uses the normal code,
{{WM-IN}}http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:WPIN-Inviteit would
recognize the user and leave the current default message just like
the current template and you can enter your signature afterwards, like it
is now.
What say? opinions? This one seems a bit more friendly to me.
--
Regards,
Debanjan*
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[Wikimediaindia-l] NSEB tech fest Avenir
Hello all, I am currently in Kolkata, and upon reaching here two days ago, a fellow community member, Sucheta, had informed me that her college, Netaji Subhash Engineer College, Garia was organizing a tech fest, Avenir 2012http://www.avenir.net.infrom 16th of March to the 18th of March. As such I got in touch with her college organizers and with Sucheta's help we were able to procure a stall for free. We might even get a hall if possible. I really wanted the lab for an edit-o-thon but that is very hard to procure. I also relayed the message to both Jayanta da as well as WMF office in Delhi as they had organized an academy in the same college. We really need volunteers for the event, so anyone who can give their precious time please do join us. It would be awesome if all you guys came. I'd really love to meet the Kolkata community also. What I was planning was that, we concentrate more on uploading pics on commons, pronunciation drive (i.e. easier ways to contribute than writing articles) because young people in fests will hopefully respond better to such stuff. Also wanted to spread the word about WP:India and Indic languages. I need a lot of help so would really appreciate any volunteers. Can reward with cupcakes (virtual of course). :) Please guys, whoever, can, do attend, this will be Kolkata's first outreach in a fest, if I am not wrong, if its not, then doesn't matter, it will be an outreach in Kolkata and all of us really need to know what's the right formula and practice makes you perfect they say. :) Will create a page about this in en:Wiki and WM-IN soon. See you tomorrow guys, sharp at 10 am (hopefully). :) -- Regards, Debanjan* - Lets make this world a better and more informative place* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] NSEB tech fest Avenir
Reminder that there is an outreach event tomorrow. Hope few people from the Kolkata community will show up at least. It will be nearly impossible for me to manage the stall alone. On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Debanjan Bandyopadhyay debast...@gmail.com wrote: I have gotten in touch with the chapter. I am infact a chapter member myself (IN-135). I have also informed and asked the Kolkata community for help and support. Jayanta da has told me that he will bring the banner that we have in Kolkata. I am currently trying to make a basic info guide which I can xerox and distribute. I need help with that if anyone is interested. On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:49 PM, Srikanth Ramakrishnan parakara.gh...@gmail.com wrote: Excellent! This is indeed brilliant. I suggest you get in touch with the Chapter soon. The chapter is your one stop place for all Wikipedia related support. If you need any help on wiki, let me know. More than willing to help. -- Regards, Srikanth Ramakrishnan. Wikipedia Coimbatore Meetup on February 12th. http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meetup/Coimbatore Aliens invaded Tamil Nadu, left their Spacship and now it is a Toll Plaza. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IVRCL-Vijayamangalam-Toll-Plaza.JPG ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Debanjan* - Lets make this world a better and more informative place* -- Regards, Debanjan* - Lets make this world a better and more informative place* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Ads Injected into Wikipedia?
No, now that you mention him, even a friend of mine in Pune told me that Wikipedia had started ads, to which I dared him to show me and in fact made a bet. He failed to show me when I asked him to, so I took it as a singular even, perhaps, some sort of mistake he made. However, since other people have started seeing this, I though I'd tell you that he is not alone. I'll ask him further details about his net connection and get back to you guys on this. On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Aditya Sengupta apsengu...@gmail.comwrote: Interesting- a virus that injects ads directly into the DOM. On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 19:03, Bala Jeyaraman sodabot...@gmail.comwrote: mostprobably adware in his machine. A smiliar report in portugese wikipedia is here: http://translate.google.co.in/translate?hl=ensl=ptu=http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%25C3%25A9dia:Esplanada/geral/Spam_na_Wikipedia,_problema_%2810mar2012%29ei=TqlcT9fyMs2rrAe468GlDAsa=Xoi=translatect=resultresnum=5ved=0CE4Q7gEwBAprev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522ads%2Bnot%2Bby%2Bthis%2Bsite%2522%2Binjection%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3D6zj%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26prmd%3Dimvns On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Aditya Sengupta apsengu...@gmail.comwrote: A friend got in touch with me about this. He is currently seeing advertisements on Wikipedia pages (on all pages except the home page). Here is a link to a screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/dhKyR.jpg These advertisements were not visible to him when I asked him to check through the secure WM server. These advertisements are also not visible to him on any other web page. To the bottom right of each ad, there is some text that says, ads not by this site. I've taken a quick look through the page source he forwarded, nothing looks untoward. His right-click menu does not appear when he right-clicks on the ad. He is based out of Mumbai and ISP is Tata Teleservices Maharashtra Ltd. His IP address is 114.143.88.193 (or was, while he accessed this page; I've since had him change his IP address since I'm sharing this one). I'm not sure if this issue is restricted to Mumbai; since the IP address shows up in Pune when I try to geolocate it (though I understand this is fairly common). The link he is directed to when he clicks the ad is this: http://www.inkfruit.com/combo-landing?utm_source=CMP1002Comboutm_medium=CPMutm_content=combobannerutm_campaign=Combo. I'm adding this here and copying the founder of Inkfruit since the campaign data in the URL parameters may help identify the problem (also, I'm not sure if Inkfruit is aware of this campaign). I've copied my friend here in case there are further questions he could help answer. Could this be a case of DPI by his ISP, or simply malware on his machine? If it were the former, what would be the legal status of the issue? ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Debanjan* - Lets make this world a better and more informative place* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Ads Injected into Wikipedia?
I just saw that screenshot and remembered, even my friend said, it was by the same site, inkfruit. Some common issue?? On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Debanjan Bandyopadhyay debast...@gmail.com wrote: No, now that you mention him, even a friend of mine in Pune told me that Wikipedia had started ads, to which I dared him to show me and in fact made a bet. He failed to show me when I asked him to, so I took it as a singular even, perhaps, some sort of mistake he made. However, since other people have started seeing this, I though I'd tell you that he is not alone. I'll ask him further details about his net connection and get back to you guys on this. On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Aditya Sengupta apsengu...@gmail.comwrote: Interesting- a virus that injects ads directly into the DOM. On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 19:03, Bala Jeyaraman sodabot...@gmail.comwrote: mostprobably adware in his machine. A smiliar report in portugese wikipedia is here: http://translate.google.co.in/translate?hl=ensl=ptu=http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%25C3%25A9dia:Esplanada/geral/Spam_na_Wikipedia,_problema_%2810mar2012%29ei=TqlcT9fyMs2rrAe468GlDAsa=Xoi=translatect=resultresnum=5ved=0CE4Q7gEwBAprev=/search%3Fq%3D%2522ads%2Bnot%2Bby%2Bthis%2Bsite%2522%2Binjection%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3D6zj%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26prmd%3Dimvns On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 4:57 PM, Aditya Sengupta apsengu...@gmail.comwrote: A friend got in touch with me about this. He is currently seeing advertisements on Wikipedia pages (on all pages except the home page). Here is a link to a screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/dhKyR.jpg These advertisements were not visible to him when I asked him to check through the secure WM server. These advertisements are also not visible to him on any other web page. To the bottom right of each ad, there is some text that says, ads not by this site. I've taken a quick look through the page source he forwarded, nothing looks untoward. His right-click menu does not appear when he right-clicks on the ad. He is based out of Mumbai and ISP is Tata Teleservices Maharashtra Ltd. His IP address is 114.143.88.193 (or was, while he accessed this page; I've since had him change his IP address since I'm sharing this one). I'm not sure if this issue is restricted to Mumbai; since the IP address shows up in Pune when I try to geolocate it (though I understand this is fairly common). The link he is directed to when he clicks the ad is this: http://www.inkfruit.com/combo-landing?utm_source=CMP1002Comboutm_medium=CPMutm_content=combobannerutm_campaign=Combo. I'm adding this here and copying the founder of Inkfruit since the campaign data in the URL parameters may help identify the problem (also, I'm not sure if Inkfruit is aware of this campaign). I've copied my friend here in case there are further questions he could help answer. Could this be a case of DPI by his ISP, or simply malware on his machine? If it were the former, what would be the legal status of the issue? ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Debanjan* - Lets make this world a better and more informative place* -- Regards, Debanjan* - Lets make this world a better and more informative place* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Monthly meetup of Pune Wikipedians - 10 March 2012
That will surely help. Thanks Ashwin, I will come then. Your a real life saver. :) On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 10:17 AM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: Will drop you to a proper bus-stand at highway in Dapodi. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Debanjan Bandyopadhyay debast...@gmail.com wrote: Can we not have this meetup say from 1600 to 1700. I really want to attend it but I have to go to my brother's place in Pimpri and its very difficult to get buses after 1800? On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Mandar Kulkarni mvkulkarn...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Dear All, The next monthly meetup of Pune wikipedians, WikiPuneri, is planned for Saturday 10 Mar 2010, from 1800 to 1900 hrs at Ranade Institute, Ferguson Road, Near Rupali, Pune The intended purpose of the meetup is: *Set up a long-term plan for a year's worth of Wikipuneri activities, with detailed planning for Wikipedia activities* . The agenda is as follows: 1. Discuss and plan for outreach activities in Pune 2. Communication and reporting of various activities of events 3. Reporting of past events like Marathi Wikisrot launch, Wiki academies 4. Discuss on increase member strength in Pune 5. Discuss immd. project in Pune and the support required Please sign up here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Pune/Pune19 This is a very interesting and important meet so be sure to be present to push your ideas about what you would like to do! With Regards, Mandar V. Kulkarni http://mr.wikipedia.org http://mr.wikisource.org ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Debanjan* - Lets make this world a better and more informative place* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Debanjan* - Lets make this world a better and more informative place* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] An Innovative Outreach effort
Hello all, I am sending this mail, as I am soon going to be leaving for Kolkata and as such a particular incident reminded me how we can do a free of cost basic outreach, to spread the word about Wikipedia. The incident occurred when I was traveling from Mumbai to Kolkata, just after the conference, and not having time to change, I boarded the Duronto with my conference t-shirt on. The passengers in the compartment I was in, though initially kept to themselves, started speaking to each other as often happens on long (28hr) train journeys. Very soon the focus shifted to my t-shirt and the resultant was that I ended up explaining the world of Wikipedia to them for hours. I should mention, it was a very varied crowd and maybe that is why it happened. There was a lawyer, a psychiatrist, a scientist, an engineer, and a couple others whose occupations were unknown to me. I won't say it was very fruitful, or that I showed them any live demo or ppt. Rather I focused on a few crucial question which were on their minds: - What is Wikipedia? - Who runs Wikipedia? - Is Wikimedia a sub-project of Wikipedia? - Who edits Wikipedia? - How many employees are there and how many volunteers? - Is it really free? If so, how does it earn money? - Reliability of Wikipedia - If anyone can edit, is it reliable? - Who monitors info? - Copyvio and reliable sources - What do I get out of it, if not money? - Role of a Campus Ambassador - How to edit? - Why edit? - Edit what? - Presence of Indic language wikis - How to edit Indic language wikis - Sister projects like Commons, Wikibooks - Entry of Foundation in India and creation of India Chapter However, as it was my first journey, I did not note down their emails to follow them up. The number was also limited, only 6. But hey, it was free and killed a lot of time, while at least telling people that Wikipedia can be edited and it has indic languages as well as sister projects. Hence, a sincere request to all Wikimedians. If you are traveling in a long distance train journey, try wearing a Wiki t-shirt if you have one. If you don't but the audience seems interested go over, say hello and ask where they work. When they ask you back, say, WIKIPEDIA and see the reaction. That should get you started. You can always try it. If it fails, then the only thing is you have to wash your Wiki tee at most. But at least you spread the awareness. I am not saying that this will retain people and inspire them to start editing, but at least they might go back and try and look at Wikipedia in a different way, or seek out new info. Am again going to wear a Wiki tee on my journey, will tell you if i have a similar experience. -- Regards, Debanjan* - Lets make this world a better and more informative place* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Monthly meetup of Pune Wikipedians - 10 March 2012
Can we not have this meetup say from 1600 to 1700. I really want to attend it but I have to go to my brother's place in Pimpri and its very difficult to get buses after 1800? On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Mandar Kulkarni mvkulkarn...@yahoo.co.ukwrote: Dear All, The next monthly meetup of Pune wikipedians, WikiPuneri, is planned for Saturday 10 Mar 2010, from 1800 to 1900 hrs at Ranade Institute, Ferguson Road, Near Rupali, Pune The intended purpose of the meetup is: *Set up a long-term plan for a year's worth of Wikipuneri activities, with detailed planning for Wikipedia activities* . The agenda is as follows: 1. Discuss and plan for outreach activities in Pune 2. Communication and reporting of various activities of events 3. Reporting of past events like Marathi Wikisrot launch, Wiki academies 4. Discuss on increase member strength in Pune 5. Discuss immd. project in Pune and the support required Please sign up here : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Pune/Pune19 This is a very interesting and important meet so be sure to be present to push your ideas about what you would like to do! With Regards, Mandar V. Kulkarni http://mr.wikipedia.org http://mr.wikisource.org ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Debanjan* - Lets make this world a better and more informative place* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Announcing Noopur Raval as Consultant, Wikimedia Foundation (India Program, Communications)
Congratulations Noopur, now you shall get paid for doing what you love...How awesome is that?? On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 9:47 PM, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote: Congratulations! Noopur. warm regards, Pradeep Mohandas On 05/03/2012, Sohan Maheshwar sohanmahesh...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Noopur Congratulations! On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 8:14 PM, Ram Shankar Yadav ramshankarya...@gmail.com wrote: Congrats Noopur :) On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 7:49 PM, Pratik Lahoti pr4tiklah...@gmail.comwrote: Welcome and congratulations Noopur! You are indeed very inspiring! :) Best Wishes, Pratik Lahoti User:BPositive On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Hisham his...@wikimedia.org wrote: Dear All, I am pleased to announce that Noopur Raval ([User:Noopur28http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Noopur28] has been selected as Consultant to the Wikimedia Foundationhttp://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Home, and will support Communications for India Programhttp://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/India_Program. This position will perform 4 key functions. Firstly, it will support communications with our community. This involves a regular set of updates (such as newsletters) as well as specific communication projects such as story-telling of local community initiatives (to document experiences, celebrate successes and cross-pollinate ideas.) This is *not* for day-to-day program communications - which is a core part of each of our responsibilities in the India Program team. Second will be to support media PR for local community initiatives. The single biggest challenge here will to be get more Indic language media coverage to support community building efforts. This will be done directly with community members and also in co-ordination with the India Chapter http://wikimedia.in/'s Communications Media PR team http://members.wikimedia.in/Communications. The third aspect is to build and expand existing community social networks (such as WikimediaIndia http://www.facebook.com/WikimediaIndia on facebook) and to help with the use of social networks to support community building. Lastly, there is untapped potential of using digital outreach - to augment existing physical outreach efforts. We need to (very, very carefully) explore if we can reach out to our large and growing reader base and inform, encourage and enable them to become editors using online channels and resources. Noopur is a community member and has supported outreach activities (in Ahmedabad http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Takes_Ahmedabad Delhi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Delhi/Delhi6 ), is a member of Delhi SIG http://members.wikimedia.in/City_and_Language_Special_Interest_Groups of the Chapter, has participated in community collaborations like Collaboration of the Month http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:INCOTM and has been actively trying to start GLAMhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Glam in India. Noopur is from Gandhinagar http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gandhinagar and is graduating from JNUhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jawaharlal_Nehru_University with a Master's in Arts Aesthetics. She has a triple honors Bachelor's in Media Studies, Literature and Psychology from Christ College, Bangalore http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_College,_Bangalore. She has interned with Radio Mirchi, Times of India and the Centre for Internet Society (amongst others) - as well as done some teaching assignments. She is an active blogger (including for the India Art Summit, 2011.) She has published a novella and co-authored an anthology of poems, plays short stories and has co-presented a paper on Wikiwars with [User:Srikeit.] She is also an amateur photographer and has contributed to Commons http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Noopur28 as well as other platforms. The Communications position has taken a long time to fill. The initial call for selection was in September http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-September/004252.html . I reported back to the community in December http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimediaindia-l/2011-December/006055.html that I had failed to find the right candidate and hence the delay. There were a number of deserving candidates and this selection has taken time because of the need to find the most suitable profile for a complex role. This role requires the right mix of an academic foundation in communications, domain expertise as well as adequate familiarity with our community. It also requires adaptability and strong learning skills - because so much of what we are trying to do is pioneering. I am confident that she brings the right level of experience and competencies - and I'm very excited by the opportunity of
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Urgent help required! Wikipedia Academy at GNUNIFY techfest, SICSR, Model Colony, Pune on 11th Feb 2012 from 10AM to 1 PM
I'll try my best. :) On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 9:52 PM, Pratik Lahoti pr4tiklah...@gmail.comwrote: I'm in as well. Thanks, Pratik Lahoti User:BPositive On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Arnav Sonara sonara.ar...@gmail.comwrote: Count me in. Thanks. On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.com wrote: Dear friends, GNUNIFY techfest is being held at SICSR, Model Colony, Pune from 10 to 12th Feb 2011. There is a Wikimedia hackathon also associated with it. On 11th February from 10AM to 1 PM there is a Wikipedia Academy which is to be done by self Sudhanwa followed by a Marathi Wikipedia Academy in the afternoon. Sudhanwa has suddenly got serious family business and not able to attend. The number of people signing up for English Wikipedia Academy has increased to from 30 to over 70. I request for help from all Wikipedians who are free for the Academy. They may please make it to SICSR even if they can only be there part of the time. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Thanks Arnav (ricku). (User:Rangilo_Gujarati)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Rangilo_Gujarati ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Debanjan* - Lets make this world a better and more informative place* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outreach opportunities: Wikipedia workshops at tech fests
My two paise: Point 1: I myself am a student, and I kind of agree with Srikanth on this one. Students aren't really interested in learning to edit Wikipedia at a fest. If I was a newbie, I wouldn't even look at the stall for more than say once or twice. A better idea is to have a photo scavenger hunt to upload to commons and use that somehow in an article in one of these fest. Anyone who can do it successfully after a brief tutorial, say gets rewarded with a tshirt. The t-shirt isn't that symbolic. It is necessary to attract a person to the stall, but what will drive them is the competitive spirit. Point 2: I do believe that Wikipedia has a lot of techies (my opinion, may be wrong). When you target techies, they are the easiest as they will like the concept of open source, coding, etc etc. But I doubt how many non-technical articles they chose to even touch in a short span. What we do not touch upon are non-tech fests, esp sciences and arts. Because, students of sciences generally have to do a lot of research but all this research just goes to their professors and rots. While literature students are always looking for avenues of self expression. Maybe Wikipedia is not the best place for that, but it will attract them more because of the audience. So why not give non-tech fests a try also? The most recent I can think of is Sympulse, which is in 9days. But Nitika or Hisham, maybe you can talk to them and if they agree, we can also help out? Contact info: Aditya Krishnamurthy : +91 9867559891 Aparna Prasad : +91 9673399903 http://www.sympulsefest.com/ Otherwise, I don't think you will get students to edit Wikipedia seriously other than the IEP model. -- Regards, Debanjan * - Lets make this world a better and more informative place* On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Gunit Kalada gunit@gmail.com wrote: Hi Pratik, It is nice to get that kind of response from people. Maybe the scenario in my college is exceptionally different. But if some colleges feel differently, then I guess we can really go ahead and do this. Regards, Gunit. On 20 January 2012 19:04, Aditya Sengupta apsengu...@gmail.com wrote: Bishakha and I did a short session at VJTI during the previous edition of the technical festival. Money never came up. The kinds of places that are going to ask for money for these specific activities are the kinds of places you do not want to do these workshops/sessions at in the first place- a very clear and simple filter. On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 18:57, Pratik Lahoti pr4tiklah...@gmail.comwrote: Hey Gunit, Its not all about sponsorship. We got a stall for free at the CMDA IT Expo as well. Infact, I just had a chat yesterday with one of my friends from Cummins College of Engineering for Women regarding the outreach activities and she was asking me how much do they have to pay to us for the workshop if it was organized in their college during the fest. Clearly, people don't expect any money from us. Infact, they are ready to pay us :P We can conduct workshops, if a stall is not possible. And the ultimate aim is to spread the word about Wikipedia. --Pratik Lahoti. User:BPositive ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Gunit. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Outreach opportunities: Wikipedia workshops at tech fests
I think in my rather long email, you mistook my main point. My main point was, lets not just restrict ourselves to tech fests. A re-read perhaps if your wagering a 100 bucks against my 2 paise?? :) On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Noopur noopur.ra...@gmail.com wrote: My 100 bucks on this : Let's not make assumptions before we try it out. In the past we've done editing sessions, outreach and everything else in colleges. The success *drastically* depends on *who* is doing it. Don't get me wrong but, whether people agree or not, whether it is successful; ALL depends on how interesting you make it to be. Also, a NO is not the final word, I keep trying and convincing. People give in at some point. So, be bold and keep trying :) On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Debanjan Bandyopadhyay debast...@gmail.com wrote: My two paise: Point 1: I myself am a student, and I kind of agree with Srikanth on this one. Students aren't really interested in learning to edit Wikipedia at a fest. If I was a newbie, I wouldn't even look at the stall for more than say once or twice. A better idea is to have a photo scavenger hunt to upload to commons and use that somehow in an article in one of these fest. Anyone who can do it successfully after a brief tutorial, say gets rewarded with a tshirt. The t-shirt isn't that symbolic. It is necessary to attract a person to the stall, but what will drive them is the competitive spirit. Point 2: I do believe that Wikipedia has a lot of techies (my opinion, may be wrong). When you target techies, they are the easiest as they will like the concept of open source, coding, etc etc. But I doubt how many non-technical articles they chose to even touch in a short span. What we do not touch upon are non-tech fests, esp sciences and arts. Because, students of sciences generally have to do a lot of research but all this research just goes to their professors and rots. While literature students are always looking for avenues of self expression. Maybe Wikipedia is not the best place for that, but it will attract them more because of the audience. So why not give non-tech fests a try also? The most recent I can think of is Sympulse, which is in 9days. But Nitika or Hisham, maybe you can talk to them and if they agree, we can also help out? Contact info: Aditya Krishnamurthy : +91 9867559891 Aparna Prasad : +91 9673399903 http://www.sympulsefest.com/ Otherwise, I don't think you will get students to edit Wikipedia seriously other than the IEP model. -- Regards, Debanjan * - Lets make this world a better and more informative place* On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 7:50 PM, Gunit Kalada gunit@gmail.comwrote: Hi Pratik, It is nice to get that kind of response from people. Maybe the scenario in my college is exceptionally different. But if some colleges feel differently, then I guess we can really go ahead and do this. Regards, Gunit. On 20 January 2012 19:04, Aditya Sengupta apsengu...@gmail.com wrote: Bishakha and I did a short session at VJTI during the previous edition of the technical festival. Money never came up. The kinds of places that are going to ask for money for these specific activities are the kinds of places you do not want to do these workshops/sessions at in the first place- a very clear and simple filter. On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 18:57, Pratik Lahoti pr4tiklah...@gmail.comwrote: Hey Gunit, Its not all about sponsorship. We got a stall for free at the CMDA IT Expo as well. Infact, I just had a chat yesterday with one of my friends from Cummins College of Engineering for Women regarding the outreach activities and she was asking me how much do they have to pay to us for the workshop if it was organized in their college during the fest. Clearly, people don't expect any money from us. Infact, they are ready to pay us :P We can conduct workshops, if a stall is not possible. And the ultimate aim is to spread the word about Wikipedia. --Pratik Lahoti. User:BPositive ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Gunit. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Help needed for Wiki Academy in Kolkata
If it relates to editing English Wikipedia, I can help monitor the activities of the students online and provide help and support when they need it. So that they don't end up with copyvios or vandalism. -- Regards, Debanjan* - Lets make this world a better and more informative place* On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Jayanta Nath jayanta...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Sumana, Actually we are planning for Kolkata Wikimedia Hackathon. We are staring this wiki academy[1], After that we can organised for Hackathon. [1] http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Wiki_Academy/Netaji_Subhash_Engineering_College With Warm Regards, *Jayanta Nath* Calcutta,West Bengal https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-in-wb ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wiki 11 Pune report
+100 It was a lot of fun along with serious business. The club started on the 14th with over 40+ attendees. The greatest success was that almost 100% of all students returned the next day. Hence, we hope to have generated a lot of interest as well as made it clear to them, that editing an encyclopedia is serious business. -- Regards, Debanjan* - Lets make this world a better and more informative place* On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 12:59 AM, Srikeit srik...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All This is a slightly belated report of the Wiki 11 celebrations in Pune on January 15, 2012. The celebrations were coincided with the first gathering of Wikipedia Club Pune http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Club_Pune. The Club had met on the 14th where participants were instructed on the model, nature and basics of Wikipedia. The 15th saw 40+ participants gather in the computer lab at SICSR, Pune for hands-on Wikipedia editing as well as the 11th anniversary celebrations. The numbers therefore made this the *largest Wiki 11 celebration in India*. The participants were largely high school and college students. The morning session involved a detailed explanation of the five pillars of Wikipediahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Five_pillars stressing the importance of contributing neutral and free content. Feedback for each sessions was immediately gathered on the Wikipedia Club Pune Facebook Pagehttps://www.facebook.com/WikipediaClubPune . The second session involved hands-on editing beginning with talk page posting, signing of posts, sandbox editing, wiki-linking etc. Then following a detailed explanation of referencing, the participants were encouraged (under supervision) to reference articles related to Pune. The final session involved the business end of the Wiki-11 celebration with a huge Wiki-globe cakehttp://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wiki_Club_Pune_1.JPG. We were further buoyed by the presence of the WP English SIG chair Ashwin who encouraged and helped the participants in editing and did the honours cutting the cake. The participants and the organizers participated in a Google+ Hangout with Hisham and the rest of the WMF office in Delhi and Nitika and the WP 11 party in Kolkata. The participants were quite excited with both Wikipedia and its community. Their enthusiasm was reflected in both their editing as well as willingness to return for the next meeting of the club. The pictures of the event have been uploaded to commons and can be found here http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Wikipedia_11_in_India. The next meeting of the Wikipedia Club Pune will be on Saturday, 21st Jan. The Wikipedia Club and celebrations were quite excellently organized by Abhishek Suryavanshi and several other Campus Ambassadors in Pune. Warm Regards -- Srikeit Tadepalli +91-7709756798 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] FOSS and Wikipedia
Excuse me for commenting here, I am not a techie, hence I assume, it might not be the best place for me to comment, but after so many discussion over FOSS or not, (yes, I googled what is FOSS) and I just want to know, is this discussion really necessary? Is it really necessary to get into long drawn discussions as to whether it is FOSS or not? I may be out of place, hence, please Assume Good Faith. I just wanted to know the relevance. -- Regards, Debanjan* - Lets make this world a better and more informative place* On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 9:07 PM, Ashwin Baindur ashwin.bain...@gmail.comwrote: Praveen, I'm assuming good faith in thinking that you do not mean to accuse FOSS advocates of imposing their POV on Wikimedians in general. Warm regards, Ashwin Baindur -- On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 8:20 PM, Pradeep Mohandas pradeep.mohan...@gmail.com wrote: Well elucidated, Praveen. warm regards, Pradeep Handheld On 05/01/2012, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.org wrote: On 5 January 2012 19:02, Praveen Prakash me.prav...@gmail.com wrote: softwares, but i don't like FOSS extremism, many others using non-free softwares). Agreed. Extremism, FOSS, Wikipedian or otherwise, isn't a good thing. Choice, on the other hand, is. Thank you. Best, Gautam http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Pradeep Mohandas How Pradeep uses email - http://goo.gl/6v1I9 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Kolkata Bookfair 2012-Application submitted
Hello all, I'm really eagerly waiting news from the Kolkata Book fair. Excuse me for my impatience, but the concept of such a large outreach in my home city is just too enthralling for me to keep quiet. What is the current situation? Are there any updates? Any news on the contract with the Book Fair people? What's the word on WMF regarding funding? How many volunteers are required? Does the Kolkata community have adequate man-power? What about posters and freebies? Can any of the Campus Ambassadors, including myself from the India Education Program provide any assistance? Sorry if there are too many questions, I'm just too excited. :) -- Regards, Debanjan* - Lets make this world a better and more informative place* On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Debanjan Bandyopadhyay debast...@gmail.com wrote: Go Jayanta da +1000 -- Regards, Debanjan* - Lets make this world a better and more informative place * On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Deepon Saha hideeponh...@gmail.comwrote: Will be there...:) On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Surya Prakash suryasalem2...@gmail.comwrote: Great efforts Jayanta. All the very best for your efforts. :) *$U®¥∩* http://goo.gl/RoMyo.com http://FirefoxSurya.blogspot.com http://about.me/suryaceg On 9 December 2011 10:31, Jayanta Nath jayanta...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, Yesterday, 8 December 2011, the application was submitted (attached the receipt copy) by Mr Biswarup Ganguly, they mentioned as 'Late Receipt'. The application contained; 1. The cover letter. 2. Print out registration certificate. 3. en copy of the certificate. 3. Main page of Wikimedia Foundation site. 4. Main page of en. wikipedia 5. Main page of bn. wikipedia. 6. Main page of hi. wikipedia 7. Main page of Wikimedia Chapter. It is known that the will call a meeting for finalizing the contract at late December, 2011. With regards. -- With Warm Regards, *Jayanta Nath* Calcutta,West Bengal ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [WMIN-Members] Wikimedia India chapter IRC meetup
Sorry, could not join. May someone please share the link to the summary?? -- Regards, Debanjan* - Lets make this world a better and more informative place * On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 9:00 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.comwrote: A gentle reminder ! Starting now. -Tinu Cherian On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 9:53 PM, Naveen Francis navee...@gmail.comwrote: Hi friends, We will have our IRC meetup on Dec 17, 2011, from 9:00 pm to 10:00 pm http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Internet_Relay_Chats/Dec_17,2011 We from Wikimedia India Chapter invites you all to take part in the IRC meetup. On behalf of Wikimedia Chapter (India) Thanks, Naveen Francis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Wikimedia Chapter, India Member's Group. To post to this group, send email to wmin-memb...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to wmin-members+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/wmin-members?hl=en?hl=en ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Kolkata Bookfair 2012-Application submitted
Go Jayanta da +1000 -- Regards, Debanjan* - Lets make this world a better and more informative place * On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Deepon Saha hideeponh...@gmail.com wrote: Will be there...:) On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Surya Prakash suryasalem2...@gmail.comwrote: Great efforts Jayanta. All the very best for your efforts. :) *$U®¥∩* http://goo.gl/RoMyo.com http://FirefoxSurya.blogspot.com http://about.me/suryaceg On 9 December 2011 10:31, Jayanta Nath jayanta...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, Yesterday, 8 December 2011, the application was submitted (attached the receipt copy) by Mr Biswarup Ganguly, they mentioned as 'Late Receipt'. The application contained; 1. The cover letter. 2. Print out registration certificate. 3. en copy of the certificate. 3. Main page of Wikimedia Foundation site. 4. Main page of en. wikipedia 5. Main page of bn. wikipedia. 6. Main page of hi. wikipedia 7. Main page of Wikimedia Chapter. It is known that the will call a meeting for finalizing the contract at late December, 2011. With regards. -- With Warm Regards, *Jayanta Nath* Calcutta,West Bengal ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
[Wikimediaindia-l] Media Issue
Hey all, Check out, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qquzVg4iido. Wait towards the end and you'll have some news about how a call center employee in Scotland and how he claimed to be a War hero. They mentioned nothing of WP:NOTEhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Noteor of our stringent standards. Just wanted to know all your comments on it, that's all. -- Regards, Debanjan* - Lets make this world a better and more informative place* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] [Wikimedia-BD] Geographical distribution of Indian Wikipedians
Jayanta, Currently, I am studying in Pune but keep coming back to Kolkata during the holidays. I had a chat with you in the conference, so where exactly do I add my name here?? Currently, I've added it in Maharashtra, but should I also add it in West Bengal, as I want to help conduct Academies in Kolkata also. -- Regards, Debanjan* - Lets make this world a better and more informative place* On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 7:02 PM, Béria Lima berial...@gmail.com wrote: Why not use a map like the ones in http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:CW , http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Cartografia_dos_Wikipedistas/Brasiland http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Cartografia_dos_Wikipedistas/Portugal? There are a similar map to India here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:India_78.40398E_20.74980N.jpg (if you don't want to use a satelite image there is a locator map: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:India-locator-map-blank.svg and a map with the states of India here: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:India-map-en.svg / http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:India-map-en.png ) _ *Béria Lima* http://wikimedia.pt/(351) 925 171 484 *Imagine um mundo onde é dada a qualquer pessoa a possibilidade de ter livre acesso ao somatório de todo o conhecimento humano. Ajude-nos a construir esse sonho. http://wikimedia.pt/Donativos* On 22 November 2011 12:20, Jayanta Nath jayanta...@gmail.com wrote: Dear All, Please add your name in the below link http://wiki.wikimedia.in/Geographical_distribution_of_Indian_Wikipedians Cheers! Jayanta ___ Wikimedia-BD mailing list wikimedia...@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-bd ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Death and Post-mortem of Indian Education Program pilot
Hey all, Let me introduce myself first. I too am a CA in fact a second gen one. I initially decided not to reply to this mail stream at all as there is nothing but a blame game going on. But after all the personal attacks, I've decided to be on the front-line along with my CA family. Ok, firstly, I don't really get this issue of the Indian Community not being aware. I mean, yes, you can blame Hisham for not enrolling the community but as the copyvios started flooding and the students started editing, we hardly saw anyone from the Indian Community. Even the Global community was unaware, but they sought out the information and made their presence felt such that they demanded information. The Indian community however, still expects that students will come to them for help and they shall help. I remember attending the meeting last month. I was very excited as I was new to Wikipedia India community, Pune chapter. But am sorry to say, saying that the meeting was fruitful would be nothing but a vast exaggeration. I mean, we explained to the community as to how we and our Indian culture and education system were suffering personal attacks and we really needed assistance in replying back to them, but all the community was interested in was going to the students why they should not do copyvio which, we had already given tons of sessions for. In fact, the mere suggestion of Ram to create custom welcome templates for the students was only agreed upon in theory and never came to life. Unfortunately, attacking the CA's on their edit count is a way, in which you can belittle their efforts, blame it on everyone else and just show how right you are. The very aspect as to how this whole discussion is turning into only a blame game shows the fragmentation of the Indian community to which I feel to be a part of also. As for OA's, I'm sorry but I can speak for myself to state I received zero help from my assigned OA's. I tried a lot on my part to reach out and get help but I had to man 100+ students * 2 subjects all on my own as my fellow CA also left my side. The active CA's were a big support, like Ram and a few others. What is not visible in Wikipedia is the amount of hard work we CA's put in physically. I spent time every day teaching 100 students individually how to create a sandbox, my edit count does not show that contribution, I am sorry to say. I spent day and night searching for copyvios. Its only because of us CA's that the extent of copyvios was scaled to a lesser extent before the emergency OA's came in. As for that Brazilian CA, he has been there since 2007, so I don't really get how you can compare him to Ram. The funniest thing however that I find is the name of the email chain, death and post mortem?? I mean, firstly, the IEP is not dead. Being the CA of SSE, I can say for certain, it was successfully implemented in SSE. I'd say at least 20 students are now permanent Wikipedians who might have done copyvio, but rectified and came back strong. I hate this blame game of Nitika and Hisham as well as the other CA's. I am sorry to say, I had no help from the Indian community. All that I know about detecting copyvio was taught to me by Kudpung and Moonriddengirl, the rest I learnt along the way. Kudpung too was not expected to teach me, but he still did, and that is what I call as the true spirit of a Wikipedian, imparting knowledge. Having a huge number of edits may make you well known to the community at large but for a bunch of students who have just started and don't even know how to check an edit count, its useless knowledge to them. They will hardly reach out to OA's. Most of the queries I got were not on my talk page but via phone calls and in person chat. I carried my laptop around showing anyone and everyone who wanted to know what to do. We accept the mistakes we made but this blame game has to stop. What is the point of it all?? Form a constructive platform in moving forward not step back and say, I told you so. That's just childish and immature. As for the rampant voices who judge our experience, I welcome you to come to the colleges, deal with over 1000+ students and see how your words can totally inspire them to create non-copyright articles. Please, it will be a learning experience for me. Ask Srikeit, I invited him once, only about 16 people attended. The rest 80+ in SSE, asked me face to face at a later time. Would any of you be willing to spend so much time answering their queries from 9am to 2am?? I'd love to get that kind of support and give the students a few of your numbers. Calculate that into my edit count please and am sure, I won't fair that badly. -- Regards, Debanjan* user:debastein http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Debastein - Lets make this world a better and more informative place* On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 13:08, Ram Shankar Yadav ramshankarya...@gmail.com wrote: *This is exactly the
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Death and Post-mortem of Indian Education Program pilot
Hey Srikanth, This is exactly what I meant about constructive approach. No my profs don't come to me house. They fail me. I understand that this is a problem in the mentality of Indian students. But you either have two options, decide to help anyway or crib about how the mentality of students need to change. Now let me ask you a question. When someone falls in a river, do you wait for that person to ask you for your help or do you try to save him anyway. I might be immature in my views, but when you have a whole bunch of new Wikipedian's who would prefer to contact their CA's on facebook and not on Wikipedia talk page, do you refuse to give them help or go to their talk pages and help them out. I say, everyone has their choices, I'd jump in the river to save the person, you may want to sit and wait till he calls for your help. There are no good or bad choices, its just a choice and its up to you as to what you believe in. May I also point the rhetoric of your statement, my prof doesn't come to my house, I go to him, because I am afraid of him failing me? So do you want the students to reach the OA's out of fear? In my experience, when I went and helped out a person, even when they didn't want my help, it turned out that I became more easily approachable and they came to me later with more issues. I'd say, this is India, our problems are unique and hence so should be our solutions. Cribbing will get us nowhere. I can say for sure, if you go to 100 students and check out their contribs, at least 20 will reply back and thank you and ask for your help the next time. But if you sit and wait for them to come to you, I don't imagine even 5 will come to you. My views, not necessary that you may agree. Do assume good faith while reading my email, I meant it in no other way. -- Regards, Debanjan* - Lets make this world a better and more informative place* On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:15 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.comwrote: On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 23:11, Debanjan Bandyopadhyay debast...@gmail.com wrote: The Indian community however, still expects that students will come to them for help and they shall help. I never got an answer for the question Does your college profs come to your home and help you in doing the assignments?. I wont blame any single person, to stereotype this is exactly Indian students' mentality and this is a very big problem. It is very difficult to do anything at all even if we have 1000 global admins willing to sign up as ambassadors. -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Death and Post-mortem of Indian Education Program pilot
+1 Abhilash On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Abhilash abhilashu...@gmail.com wrote: Srikanth With all respect, let me ask, what are we trying to do here. To change the so called Indian Students mentality or trying to spur the growth of Wikipedia in India? This is getting too personal and creating a wedge between one of the most well known knowledge communities in the world. Please please please, let us put a stop to this. This conversation/thread has to STOP at any cost. This is not doing any good than getting things personal. I hope better sense prevail. Abhi On 16-Nov-2011 12:15 AM, Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote: On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 23:11, Debanjan Bandyopadhyay debast...@gmail.com wrote: The Indian community however, still expects that students will come to them for help and they shall help. I never got an answer for the question Does your college profs come to your home and help you in doing the assignments?. I wont blame any single person, to stereotype this is exactly Indian students' mentality and this is a very big problem. It is very difficult to do anything at all even if we have 1000 global admins willing to sign up as ambassadors. -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing listwikimediaindi...@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Regards, Debanjan* - Lets make this world a better and more informative place* ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Wiki Academies in Indic Languages.
Naveen, Send me, I'll try to translate into Shudh Bengali. Need some time due to exams which will get over tomorrow. But will be travelling from Monday to Tuesday. So can't help before Wednesday. -- Regards, Debanjan* - Lets make this world a better and more informative place* On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Naveen Francis navee...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Can anyone help me to translate the Wiki Academy Brochure to Indic languages ? Thanks, Naveen Francis ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Naveen Francis is elected as the Secretary
Heartiest Congratulations Naveen. May you do inspirational work that is talked about for ages to come. -- Regards, Debanjan* - Lets make this world a better and more informative place* On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Gautam John gau...@prathambooks.orgwrote: On 18 October 2011 14:35, Arjuna Rao Chavala arjunar...@gmail.com wrote: I am glad to announce that Naveen Francis is elected as Secretary of the Wikimedia Chapter. Please join me in congratulating Naveen. Congratulations and good luck, Naveen! Thank you. Best, Gautam http://blog.prathambooks.org/p/social-media.html ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Fwd: Naveen Francis is elected as Secretary
Heartiest Congratulations Naveen. May you do inspirational work that is talked about for ages to come. -- Regards, Debanjan* - Lets make this world a better and more informative place * On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Naveen Francis navee...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you Vickram n all .. Happy to volunteer as Secretary of the Wikimedia India Chapter On 18 October 2011 02:40, Vickram Crishna vvcris...@radiophony.comwrote: Wonderful. Nice to have the community reaching out to you when you're far from home :-), more incentive to come back asap. On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 1:48 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucher...@gmail.com wrote: Hearty Congratulations and Best wishes, Naveen. Regards Tinu Cherian -- Forwarded message -- From: Arjuna Rao Chavala arjunar...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:21 AM Subject: [Wikimedia-IN-Exec] Naveen Francis is elected as Secretary To: wmin-memb...@googlegroups.com Cc: Wikimedia India EC wikimedia-in-e...@lists.wikimedia.org Hi, I am glad to announce that Naveen Francis is elected as Secretary of the Wikimedia Chapter. Please join me in congratulating Naveen. Thanks Arjuna Rao Chavala President, Wikmedia Chapter. ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l -- Vickram Fool On The Hill http://communicall.wordpress.com ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Recognition of Wikimedia Bangladesh
Warmest welcome to my cousins across the border who speak the same lingua franca as I. Regards, Debanjan On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 12:25 AM, Bishakha Datta bishakhada...@gmail.comwrote: Cross-posting since it may be of interest to this list. Cheers Bishakha -- Forwarded message -- From: phoebe ayers phoebe.w...@gmail.com Date: Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 8:16 PM Subject: [Internal-l] Recognition of Wikimedia Bangladesh To: Local Chapters, board and officers coordination (closed subscription) interna...@lists.wikimedia.org Dear friends, Congratulations to Wikimedia Bangladesh, our newest chapter! http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Recognition_of_Wikimedia_Bangladesh -- Phoebe Board Secretary, 2011-12 ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] IRC Office Hours -- India Education Program
Also this video, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvHvGEZx7Jkfeature=related Regards, Debanjan On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:24 AM, Ram Shankar Yadav ramshankarya...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Srikanth, Please go thru following links : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:INDIAEDU http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-06-07/pune/29629403_1_online-encyclopedia-wikipedia-articles-pilot-project http://www.thepunekar.com/2011/06/06/wikipedia-chooses-pune-for-india-pilot-programme/ and a video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abf-yGubgJE Let me know if you still have any doubts. Cheers, Ram On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:19 AM, Shrinivasan T tshriniva...@gmail.comwrote: What is India education program? On 11 Oct 2011 12:22, Srikanth Lakshmanan srik@gmail.com wrote: Hi, There is an IRC office hour scheduled at #wikimedia-office on Wed, Oct 12 8:30 PM IST about issues in India Education program. Please join if you are interested in the program. http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=wikimedia-office -- Regards Srikanth.L ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l ___ Wikimediaindia-l mailing list Wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediaindia-l
