RE: [WISPA] Gov't Gets One Right
The novelty of it all (being a WISP) tends to wear off after about 5 years, eventually it becomes about the money. It should always be about the money. You have to think about your business as a separate being. You do whatever you need to make that critter grow and be healthy. Your first goal is to stay in business. Your second goal should be returning shareholder value, even if you are the only shareholder. You've taken risk, either with your own or someone else's money. The investor should receive a return on that investment well above market rates to reflect the level of risk. As Tom has said here before, we are in the sales business. Wireless is the service we are selling. Don't get too caught up in the me vs. the big guys argument. Don't fall in love with the technology. Make your business healthy, show strong ROI and when the time is right, make the right move. Sooner or later the bigger operators will come along just because their model holds up better than an independent operator. They can achieve great economies of scale, have wider reach and deeper pockets to invest in people, marketing and technology. Why bang your head against the wall trying to figure out how to beat them when it is much more productive spending that time making yourself so invaluable that they have to take you out to get what you have. If you examine the trends in various communications technologies over the last 30 years- paging, cellular, dial-up IP- they have all followed consolidation models. The small operator got in first, got a license where needed, hammered out a territory and started adding customers. Eventually, someone wanted those customers and that territory. For the operators that understood the timing and opportunity equation there was money on the table. Eventually the big operators buy enough territory and market share. Then they can settle down to the business of getting more $$ out of this larger customer base. When this happens the deal making can cool off pretty quickly. If you are still in the game at this point your valuation can decline rapidly. Always leave the dance while you are still having fun. chris I think what you are going to find is that the big WISP isn't going to be able to come to town and bully everybody. Instead, they are going to have to fork over the cash or not be competitive and secure themselves. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Gov't Gets One Right
Quote from another email: Lately? Nope not yet. It took them some time before they got in the Ma Bell's faces too. I (and others) are trying to stop it before it happens, not try and live with it when it does. There is NO sector where the government has steeped in that things really got better in the long run. Look at telcom, we are back to 3 super players and a handful of once large ones trying to hang on. Pete Davis said the same thing but with much better words. I was saying I had tried to say it but not as well. Jeromie Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Please explain what your talking about with the Moto. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC 114 S. Walnut St. Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeromie Reeves Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 8:23 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Gov't Gets One Right I said the same thing on the moto wireless list. We are being pushed to be eaten by the larger wisps or closed down. I do not like it and can only try and fight it but I have no idea how. Hopefully wispa knows the direction as i do not thing part-15 knows. Jeromie Pete Davis wrote: The faster it becomes a fundamental human right the faster we migrate from being entrepreneurs, and start becoming the same level as water workers, sewer workers, trash pickup, postal workers, and whatever. The more the government gets involved with something, the worse it gets. When the bureaucrats get to making things like this a required service (which they inevitably will in our lifetimes) then there will be no difference than a utility or postal service, with prices capped and profitability extinguished. Another thing that will take us this direction will be the mass consolidation similar to the 250 phone companies that all became ATT in the first part of the 1900's. They all were either bought up or squashed by the competition. Maybe we won't all end up like that. Hard to say. Pete Davis NoDial.net chris cooper wrote: Not to shoot myself in the foot here, but a fundamental human right? That's just grandstanding. Take a hit from the reality pipe- people are homeless, people starve to death right here in the good ole USA. The list could go on and on about folks whose basic needs and rights are not being met. Im with Tom- many people just aren't willing to pay what the service costs. I wish they were though. Chris Broadband is a fundamental civil right and human right, Bill de Blasio, a city council member, said during the session on Wednesday. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Gov't Gets One Right
News flash for you: This is where we are today. RBOCs and MSOs control the last mile. Neither has to share. WISPs, BPL, and Muni projects will be the 3rd pipe. (I don't count cellular because that is RBOC). Pete Davis wrote: Think that's not bad for the entrepreneurs? Try starting a water company that competes with the city's water system. Or a power company. Or a 1st class mail delivery service. I don't think I can get $12/hr union workers to hand-deliver mail to houses for $0.39/letter and make a profit. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Pigtails..... and 5.8GHz low power....
Has anyone used radio to radio with attenuators to check pigtails? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenco Wireless Sent: 03 March 2006 06:01 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pigtails. and 5.8GHz low power It's called the Butterfly from www.bvsystems.com. It was about $500. Money well spent :-). As far as I can tell, it is dead accurate ! Brad H On 3/3/06, Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which meter did you buy? What did it run you? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Jenco Wireless To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; WISPA General List Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pigtails. and 5.8GHz low power Geta test meter. I got one from BVS Systems and LOVE it ! Roger Peters has had great piggies in the past. I just tested a UFL from Wisp-Router and it was 2 dB better than anything else (UFL) I have tried, but it was only 5 long, so I am sure that has something to do with the better review. Once you have tested a few radio cards and pigtails with this meter, you will wonder how you ever lived without it. Brad H On 3/2/06, Blair Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't 'directly' tell which is good or bad without testing As to what is wrong with them, I don't know.I do know that the ones I tested and published to the list were all new units.They were opened fresh for this test. I tested some other units as well, but I felt that it made more sense to show the results from new, 'identical' pigtails I plan to buy sets of pigtails from other manufactures and continue to test as I have time... Tom DeReggi wrote: The question is, how do you tell which pigtails are good and bad? And more importantly why are the bad ones bad? Is it the cable quality, the connector quality, the crimping/soldering ofconnector to cable? Is it the Ufl connector getting bend/loose where it clamps to the radio connector? Is there are more durable pigtail that gets around the problem? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Blair Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pigtails. and 5.8GHz low power Some interesting results of pigtail testing. Link is 7.9 miles.There is eyeball LoS with no fresnel zone incursions. Antennas are V-pol.Calculated link is -63db. Client end: RouterBoard 230 with MikroTik 2.9.13 SR5 card set to default TX power u.fl to N-female pigtail 5 ft LMR-400 jumper Hyperlink HG5827G 27db grid AP end: RouterBoard 230 with MikroTik 2.9.13 SR5 card set to default TX power u.fl to N-female pigtail 5 ft LMR-400 jumper Hyperlink HG5817P 17db sector AP reports client at -71 with -100 noise floor Test u.fl pigtails new in wrapper. #1 AP reports client at -71 #2 AP reports client at -82 #3 AP reports client at -74 #4 AP reports client at -72 #5 AP reports client at -71 Obviously, not all new u.fl pigtails are the same. Test mmcx pigtails new in wrapper. #1 AP reports client at -73 #2 AP reports client at -74 #3 AP reports client at -74 #4 AP reports client at -75 #5 AP reports client at -73 Less spread on the mmcx pigtails.The best mmcx pigtail seems to about as good as an average u-fl pigtail.However, this could be an artifact of the SR5 cards mmcx port. Draw your own conclusions, but I will no longer trust u.fl pigtails out of the box.Careful sorting of new u.fl pigtails could improve signal quality by 3-4db.At a client end this might not be worth it.At the AP, IMHO, it is well worth the time and effort. -- Blair Davis AOL IM Screen Name --Theory240 West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A division of: Camp Communication Services, INC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Blair Davis AOL IM Screen Name --Theory240 West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A division of: Camp Communication Services, INC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition.
[WISPA] Fw: [Board] USF Distribution Webcast ON NOW
Did anyone else see this yet? If you watch it now, things don't start till about 15 or 16 minutes into the stream (at least that was the case last night). I don't know about you guys, but *I'm* VERY impressed with Ben Scott from Free Press! He certainly seems to think along our lines. And he's very well spoken too. Anyway, a few things caught my attention. One was a Senator that said that there should only be one entity getting USF funds in a given area. Wha? Another was that USF needs to be expanded to cover broadband. It was mentioned that the unused TV bands should go unlicensed (by a senator no less). Here's the biggest kicker though. They said over and over that USF has to change. And will change. They are looking for ideas on how to collect and distribute the funds better. It needs to cover communications not just telephone. Communications includes broadband (us, sat., cable, etc.). I think that the WISP industry needs to jump on this while the iron is hot. We have two opportunities here as I see it. One is to get more spectrum (hopefully with usable rules) and the other is to get the same subsidies as the telcos get today in rural markets. Please watch the video (actual viewing time of about 1.5 hours and most of it is enlightening or funny). Then lets start talking about these issues. http://commerce.senate.gov/hearings/witnesslist.cfm?id=1708 thanks, Marlon(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice.com/wirelesswww.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Rick Harnish To: 'WISPA Board Members List' Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 8:21 AM Subject: [Board] USF Distribution Webcast ON NOW http://commerce.senate.gov/hearings/witnesslist.cfm?id=1708 Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___Board mailing list[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/board -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Two issues: Bandwidth Shaper and 24x7 tech support
Hi all,Two separate issues here:First, what's the current industry favorite for a bandwidth shaper, primarily for a hotspot? All kinds of stuff out there. Basically looking for something that can rate limit down to 256kbps based on username, IP address, OR Mac address. Something that will also limit down based on protocol (P2P apps primarily of course) as well.Also, have a client that wants us to be able to provide 24x7 support / 99.99% SLA level service on a 1.5meg wireless connection and is the "backbone" for the above hotspot. I'm a small shop and don't have the personnel to do this. Does anyone have any recommendations first off on outsourcing overnight tech support, and second, what to charge for something like this? I'm in a rural area where a PtP T1 (wired) runs around $1200 per month with this kind of SLA. 1.5meg ADSL is only other non-wireless competition here, and no SLA on the DSL of course.I would appreciate thoughts on both of the above. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Two issues: Bandwidth Shaper and 24x7 tech support
Not sure on the shaper For the other Charge him $1000 a month and give him your Cell phone for after hours support. If you can not meet the SLA for any reason give him a credit per day ($1000/30days) for service. This way he gets his SLA, your still cheaper than theT-1 solution,and you can credit him half a months service and still make a profit. Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Jason Hensley To: WISPA General List Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 3:01 PM Subject: [WISPA] Two issues: Bandwidth Shaper and 24x7 tech support Hi all,Two separate issues here:First, what's the current industry favorite for a bandwidth shaper, primarily for a hotspot? All kinds of stuff out there. Basically looking for something that can rate limit down to 256kbps based on username, IP address, OR Mac address. Something that will also limit down based on protocol (P2P apps primarily of course) as well.Also, have a client that wants us to be able to provide 24x7 support / 99.99% SLA level service on a 1.5meg wireless connection and is the "backbone" for the above hotspot. I'm a small shop and don't have the personnel to do this. Does anyone have any recommendations first off on outsourcing overnight tech support, and second, what to charge for something like this? I'm in a rural area where a PtP T1 (wired) runs around $1200 per month with this kind of SLA. 1.5meg ADSL is only other non-wireless competition here, and no SLA on the DSL of course.I would appreciate thoughts on both of the above. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Two issues: Bandwidth Shaper and 24x7 tech support
I thought about that, but don't know how the wife would likeit :-) - Original Message - From: Jory Privett To: WISPA General List Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 3:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Two issues: Bandwidth Shaper and 24x7 tech support Not sure on the shaper For the other Charge him $1000 a month and give him your Cell phone for after hours support. If you can not meet the SLA for any reason give him a credit per day ($1000/30days) for service. This way he gets his SLA, your still cheaper than theT-1 solution,and you can credit him half a months service and still make a profit. Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Jason Hensley To: WISPA General List Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 3:01 PM Subject: [WISPA] Two issues: Bandwidth Shaper and 24x7 tech support Hi all,Two separate issues here:First, what's the current industry favorite for a bandwidth shaper, primarily for a hotspot? All kinds of stuff out there. Basically looking for something that can rate limit down to 256kbps based on username, IP address, OR Mac address. Something that will also limit down based on protocol (P2P apps primarily of course) as well.Also, have a client that wants us to be able to provide 24x7 support / 99.99% SLA level service on a 1.5meg wireless connection and is the "backbone" for the above hotspot. I'm a small shop and don't have the personnel to do this. Does anyone have any recommendations first off on outsourcing overnight tech support, and second, what to charge for something like this? I'm in a rural area where a PtP T1 (wired) runs around $1200 per month with this kind of SLA. 1.5meg ADSL is only other non-wireless competition here, and no SLA on the DSL of course.I would appreciate thoughts on both of the above. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance
I am looking for a appliance/device that will work as a VoIP Gateway/PBX for 4-8 POTS lines. I am not looking for an Asterisk solution but seeking out a plug and play appliance for under $2k or less. I cannot get a PRI in my area - I cannot get a ISDN BRI in my area either - The only option I have is POTS lines which I can get for $23.00/mo each. I must have local services due to this being on a shipping channel and 911 is very critical. Any suggestions would be appreciated. JohnnyO -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance
Just send me a connection fee and I will take care of the rest of it :-) How many lines, whats the area code and how fast do you need them? With 911 of course. Mac DearmanMaximum Access, LLC.Authorized Barracuda ResellerMikroTik RouterOS Certifiedwww.inetsouth.comwww.mac-tel.uswww.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief)Rayville, La.318.728.8600 318.303.4228318.303.4229 - Original Message - From: JohnnyO To: WISPA General List Cc: Judd's List Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 5:01 PM Subject: [WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance I am looking for a appliance/device that will work as a VoIP Gateway/PBX for 4-8 POTS lines. I am not looking for an Asterisk solution but seeking out a plug and play appliance for under $2k or less.I cannot get a PRI in my area - I cannot get a ISDN BRI in my area either - The only option I have is POTS lines which I can get for $23.00/mo each. I must have local services due to this being on a shipping channel and 911 is very critical.Any suggestions would be appreciated.JohnnyO -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Pigtails..... and 5.8GHz low power....
I am preparing to do that next. I just have to find some attenuators rated for 6GHz with N connectors. Paul Hendry wrote: Has anyone used radio to radio with attenuators to check pigtails? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenco Wireless Sent: 03 March 2006 06:01 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pigtails. and 5.8GHz low power It's called the Butterfly from www.bvsystems.com http://www.bvsystems.com. It was about $500. Money well spent :-). As far as I can tell, it is dead accurate ! Brad H On 3/3/06, Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which meter did you buy? What did it run you? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Jenco Wireless mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ; WISPA General List mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 12:30 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pigtails. and 5.8GHz low power Get a test meter. I got one from BVS Systems and LOVE it ! Roger Peters has had great piggies in the past. I just tested a UFL from Wisp-Router and it was 2 dB better than anything else (UFL) I have tried, but it was only 5 long, so I am sure that has something to do with the better review. Once you have tested a few radio cards and pigtails with this meter, you will wonder how you ever lived without it. Brad H On 3/2/06, Blair Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can't 'directly' tell which is good or bad without testing As to what is wrong with them, I don't know. I do know that the ones I tested and published to the list were all new units. They were opened fresh for this test. I tested some other units as well, but I felt that it made more sense to show the results from new, 'identical' pigtails I plan to buy sets of pigtails from other manufactures and continue to test as I have time... Tom DeReggi wrote: The question is, how do you tell which pigtails are good and bad? And more importantly why are the bad ones bad? Is it the cable quality, the connector quality, the crimping/soldering ofconnector to cable? Is it the Ufl connector getting bend/loose where it clamps to the radio connector? Is there are more durable pigtail that gets around the problem? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Blair Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 02, 2006 11:58 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Pigtails. and 5.8GHz low power Some interesting results of pigtail testing. Link is 7.9 miles. There is eyeball LoS with no fresnel zone incursions. Antennas are V-pol. Calculated link is -63db. Client end: RouterBoard 230 with MikroTik 2.9.13 SR5 card set to default TX power u.fl to N-female pigtail 5 ft LMR-400 jumper Hyperlink HG5827G 27db grid AP end: RouterBoard 230 with MikroTik 2.9.13 SR5 card set to default TX power u.fl to N-female pigtail 5 ft LMR-400 jumper Hyperlink HG5817P 17db sector AP reports client at -71 with -100 noise floor Test u.fl pigtails new in wrapper. #1 AP reports client at -71 #2 AP reports client at -82 #3 AP reports client at -74 #4 AP reports client at -72 #5 AP reports client at -71 Obviously, not all new u.fl pigtails are the same. Test mmcx pigtails new in wrapper. #1 AP reports client at -73 #2 AP reports client at -74 #3 AP reports client at -74 #4 AP reports client at -75 #5 AP reports client at -73 Less spread on the mmcx pigtails. The best mmcx pigtail seems to about as good as an average u-fl pigtail. However, this could be an artifact of the SR5 cards mmcx port. Draw your own conclusions, but I will no longer trust u.fl pigtails out of the box. Careful sorting of new u.fl pigtails could improve signal quality by 3-4db. At a client end this might not be worth it. At the AP, IMHO, it is well worth the time and effort. -- Blair Davis AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A division of: Camp Communication Services, INC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Blair Davis AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A division of: Camp Communication Services, INC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance
Mac - you can't provide it either Please let me know if you can... 337-774 Let me know if you can provide local to me service - Also - will you sell me unlimited plans ? I'd be willing to pay $50.00/mo for unlimited useage. They only use about 9000-12000 LOCAL minutes per month JohnnyO On Fri, 2006-03-03 at 19:08 -0600, Mac Dearman wrote: Just send me a connection fee and I will take care of the rest of it :-) How many lines, whats the area code and how fast do you need them? With 911 of course. Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. Authorized Barracuda Reseller MikroTik RouterOS Certified www.inetsouth.com www.mac-tel.us www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief) Rayville, La. 318.728.8600 318.303.4228 318.303.4229 - Original Message - From: JohnnyO To: WISPA General List Cc: Judd's List Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 5:01 PM Subject: [WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance I am looking for a appliance/device that will work as a VoIP Gateway/PBX for 4-8 POTS lines. I am not looking for an Asterisk solution but seeking out a plug and play appliance for under $2k or less. I cannot get a PRI in my area - I cannot get a ISDN BRI in my area either - The only option I have is POTS lines which I can get for $23.00/mo each. I must have local services due to this being on a shipping channel and 911 is very critical. Any suggestions would be appreciated. JohnnyO -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/