Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams
I worked with Martin at Adzilla on a Conference Call to introduce him to some prospective ISPs. (http://www.rad-info.net/partners/adzilla.htm) Adzilla is a possible revenue stream for ISPs through ad replacement. (Instead of them seeing the ILEC ad, they can see you ad). It is definitely worth a listen to. For larger ISPs (25k subs or higher), there is another revenue generation stream: Bare Fruit. (http://www.rad-info.net/partners/barefruit.htm) When your users get a HTTP error (like 404 or 500) from a search, the Bare Fruit server will offer up a page of links along with the message that the page you click on was unavailable, perhaps these links would be suitable. The links come from a search of the clicked link and each click through pays the ISP. (This can amount to huge revenue). These are some of the ways for an ISP to gain revenue from its existing network of eyeballs. (In both cases, no upfront costs for the ISP either). Regards, Peter RAD-INFO, Inc. 813.963.5884 Charles Wu wrote: Here's an interesting concept (so interesting, in fact, that we made a session about it at our next show) All wireless network operators today carry Internet advertising over their networks. All that network traffic equates to more than $14 billion dollars per year and is growing at double-digit rates every year. Yet, even though the network operator is responsible for connecting the eyeball to the ad, they are left conspicuously on the sidelines when the advertising revenue checks are being handed out. John Wigboldus from Adzilla New Media will discuss how the wireless network operator needs to think and act like a cable television company to start earning revenue from advertisements that are being shown to their viewers. More details at: http://www.winog.com Now sure exactly what they're about -- but IMO, it's an interesting thought (and I'm gonna try to make that session =) Btw, for those of you that can't make it -- don't fret, we DO post powerpoints after the show available for public download (but of course it's NEVER as good as actually being there =) -Charles --- WiNOG Austin, TX March 13-15, 2006 http://www.winog.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Teletronics Sectors
http://www.teletronics.com/tant24sector19dbi.html#specs - Original Message - From: Jason Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 11:24 PM Subject: [WISPA] Teletronics Sectors Anyone using the 19 dbi Hz Pol 120 deg sector from Teletronics, p/n 15-124, in a 3 antenna array? Anyone know what the front to back ratio is on one of these? How about weatherability? Jason Wallace -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] OT: Automated Call System
I need to setup an automated call system. One where someone dials in and activates it (by entering a touch-tone code) and then it goes through a list of numbers it dials and plays a pre-recorded message. Any hints, tips, suggestions, software recommendations, or other advice will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Bill -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance
Charles Wu wrote: Out of curiosity...do you mean 2-5 cents per minute? Or 0.2 to 0.5 cents per minute? .2 cents; 2 cents a minute wouldn't be a very good deal. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance
care to share who you're using for termination or how much volume you're purchasing? Matt Liotta wrote: Charles Wu wrote: Out of curiosity...do you mean 2-5 cents per minute? Or 0.2 to 0.5 cents per minute? .2 cents; 2 cents a minute wouldn't be a very good deal. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Automated Call System
Bill, Are you talking about an Auto Attendant that can provide precanned messages for callers like a call center does? For example, your cellular providers's support center will make you key in various option codes to talk to the correct department. If that's what you're looking for, use Asterisk PBX. It's an open-source PBX server. see http://voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk http://www.digium.com/ I can help you set up a server, if needed. Brian Whigham Yonder Networks www.yondernetworks.com 478-442-1678 Bill Austin wrote: I need to setup an automated call system. One where someone dials in and activates it (by entering a touch-tone code) and then it goes through a list of numbers it dials and plays a pre-recorded message. Any hints, tips, suggestions, software recommendations, or other advice will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Bill -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] VoIP/PBX Gateway appliance
I can't share that information. -Matt Brian Whigham wrote: care to share who you're using for termination or how much volume you're purchasing? Matt Liotta wrote: Charles Wu wrote: Out of curiosity...do you mean 2-5 cents per minute? Or 0.2 to 0.5 cents per minute? .2 cents; 2 cents a minute wouldn't be a very good deal. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Looking for a wireless cam
We are going to be doing some events where we would like to broadcast on the web. Any one have any experience with this? If so what type of cam, server, etc. Thanks! Victoria Proffer www.StLouisBroadBand.com 314-974-5600 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams
Charles - glad to hear that John is speaking at WiNOG! Your attendees should find his presentation VERY interested. We partnered with Adzilla recently. With our growth in the Citywide Wi-Fi market and all the FREE offerings out there, I did a lot of research on advertising models to help Network Operators make money. In the end, Adzilla really was far ahead of the curve. Imagine this concept...the more my network is used, the more money I make. Hmmm...INCONCEIVABLE!!! The thing that Network Operators can't seem to grasp is, What do you mean I stick this appliance at my POP and you start sending me checks? The answer is YES. But since Network Operators are so foreign to the concept of advertising it generally requires a long explanation and a PowerPoint (it's OK - I needed that too.) grin The advertising can be tweaked to the point that the ads are virtually unnoticeable to your clients. Adzilla has developed a proprietary way to deliver more relevant, localized ads in partnership with ad servers and web publishers. For a Network Operator, you have some incredible new tools as part of the package. You have a GUI interface where you can insert messaging DIRECT TO THE DESKTOP. This means, Dear Customer, your payment is 7 days past due, your account will be shut off if you do not pay within x hours. It can also be used for marketing direct to the desktop! Imagine that - a message for your VOIP service to raise ARPUs, or other new service enhancements. It's really quite revolutionary. I'll be glad to explain more to anyone who's interested. Respectfully, Eric DaVersa Vice-President, Business Development NetLogix OFFICE: 858.764.1998 CELL: 858.245.6702 FAX: 858.764.1982 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 5:52 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams I worked with Martin at Adzilla on a Conference Call to introduce him to some prospective ISPs. (http://www.rad-info.net/partners/adzilla.htm) Adzilla is a possible revenue stream for ISPs through ad replacement. (Instead of them seeing the ILEC ad, they can see you ad). It is definitely worth a listen to. For larger ISPs (25k subs or higher), there is another revenue generation stream: Bare Fruit. (http://www.rad-info.net/partners/barefruit.htm) When your users get a HTTP error (like 404 or 500) from a search, the Bare Fruit server will offer up a page of links along with the message that the page you click on was unavailable, perhaps these links would be suitable. The links come from a search of the clicked link and each click through pays the ISP. (This can amount to huge revenue). These are some of the ways for an ISP to gain revenue from its existing network of eyeballs. (In both cases, no upfront costs for the ISP either). Regards, Peter RAD-INFO, Inc. 813.963.5884 Charles Wu wrote: Here's an interesting concept (so interesting, in fact, that we made a session about it at our next show) All wireless network operators today carry Internet advertising over their networks. All that network traffic equates to more than $14 billion dollars per year and is growing at double-digit rates every year. Yet, even though the network operator is responsible for connecting the eyeball to the ad, they are left conspicuously on the sidelines when the advertising revenue checks are being handed out. John Wigboldus from Adzilla New Media will discuss how the wireless network operator needs to think and act like a cable television company to start earning revenue from advertisements that are being shown to their viewers. More details at: http://www.winog.com Now sure exactly what they're about -- but IMO, it's an interesting thought (and I'm gonna try to make that session =) Btw, for those of you that can't make it -- don't fret, we DO post powerpoints after the show available for public download (but of course it's NEVER as good as actually being there =) -Charles --- WiNOG Austin, TX March 13-15, 2006 http://www.winog.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] YDI AP-Plus Power Supply
Anyone know what power supply specs I'd need for a YDI AP-Plus (the older kind with the card slots)? I'm removing it from a WiPOP-In-A-Box which has built-in power supplies. I think it's 48vdc. Thanks. Mark NashNetwork EngineerUnwiredOnline.Net350 Holly StreetJunction City, OR 97448http://www.uwol.net541-998-541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] YDI AP-Plus Power Supply
It should be 12V. - Original Message - From: Mark Nash To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 7:44 PM Subject: [WISPA] YDI AP-Plus Power Supply Anyone know what power supply specs I'd need for a YDI AP-Plus (the older kind with the card slots)? I'm removing it from a WiPOP-In-A-Box which has built-in power supplies. I think it's 48vdc. Thanks. Mark NashNetwork EngineerUnwiredOnline.Net350 Holly StreetJunction City, OR 97448http://www.uwol.net541-998-541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] YDI AP-Plus Power Supply
As I recall that is correct if you are using the POE adapter. I just worked on a unipop with an AMP that had one. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com -Original Message-From: Mark Nash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 1:45 PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: [WISPA] YDI AP-Plus Power Supply Anyone know what power supply specs I'd need for a YDI AP-Plus (the older kind with the card slots)? I'm removing it from a WiPOP-In-A-Box which has built-in power supplies. I think it's 48vdc. Thanks. Mark NashNetwork EngineerUnwiredOnline.Net350 Holly StreetJunction City, OR 97448http://www.uwol.net541-998-541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Automated Call System
So you want something that calls out to a list of numbers right? You can get the software that the new automated telemarketers are using. I have seen it several times but I do not remember where. It basically calls a list of numbers and plays a pre recorded message. Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Bill Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Automated Call System Hi Brian, I'm actually looking for something not quite as complex. I need a system that I can enter a list of numbers (won't change often-mostly cell phones), and once a night have it call the list of numbers and play a message. I can work with a pre-recorded message where I just call in and activate the sequence. I would prefer to be able to call in each night and leave a new message, and then have it call each number and replay the message. I'm sure asterisk would do this, but is probably overkill for my needs. I'm looking for something simple to setup and administer, so that down the road I can turn it over to someone else to maintain the list. I have an older PC and a voice-capable modem that I can use for this. I can also give it a public IP so it can be administered from anywhere. Thanks, Bill Brian Whigham wrote: Bill, Are you talking about an Auto Attendant that can provide precanned messages for callers like a call center does? For example, your cellular providers's support center will make you key in various option codes to talk to the correct department. If that's what you're looking for, use Asterisk PBX. It's an open-source PBX server. see http://voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk http://www.digium.com/ I can help you set up a server, if needed. Brian Whigham Yonder Networks www.yondernetworks.com 478-442-1678 Bill Austin wrote: I need to setup an automated call system. One where someone dials in and activates it (by entering a touch-tone code) and then it goes through a list of numbers it dials and plays a pre-recorded message. Any hints, tips, suggestions, software recommendations, or other advice will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Bill -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Automated Call System
Bill, Yeah, of course Asterisk can do that. You could buy a turn-key system and have that be part of it's features. You could use it for that solely. I see that there are online services which are pay per use as well. I just noticed http://www.notifyquick.com/howto/canned_call.asp Here's a product that allows you to use your voicemodem for $300, or even free, if you don't mind a Voicent plug in a ddition to your message and have only 20 numbers. http://www.voicent.com/autodialers.php Brian Bill Austin wrote: Hi Brian, I'm actually looking for something not quite as complex. I need a system that I can enter a list of numbers (won't change often-mostly cell phones), and once a night have it call the list of numbers and play a message. I can work with a pre-recorded message where I just call in and activate the sequence. I would prefer to be able to call in each night and leave a new message, and then have it call each number and replay the message. I'm sure asterisk would do this, but is probably overkill for my needs. I'm looking for something simple to setup and administer, so that down the road I can turn it over to someone else to maintain the list. I have an older PC and a voice-capable modem that I can use for this. I can also give it a public IP so it can be administered from anywhere. Thanks, Bill Brian Whigham wrote: Bill, Are you talking about an Auto Attendant that can provide precanned messages for callers like a call center does? For example, your cellular providers's support center will make you key in various option codes to talk to the correct department. If that's what you're looking for, use Asterisk PBX. It's an open-source PBX server. see http://voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk http://www.digium.com/ I can help you set up a server, if needed. Brian Whigham Yonder Networks www.yondernetworks.com 478-442-1678 Bill Austin wrote: I need to setup an automated call system. One where someone dials in and activates it (by entering a touch-tone code) and then it goes through a list of numbers it dials and plays a pre-recorded message. Any hints, tips, suggestions, software recommendations, or other advice will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Bill -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT: Automated Call System
Bill, Not sure if you got my offlist email, but you can go to www.tavoca.com and look at their GroupCall product. Does exactly what you need it to do. Friend of mine runs this company and will do great for what you want. - Original Message - From: Bill Austin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Automated Call System Hi Brian, I'm actually looking for something not quite as complex. I need a system that I can enter a list of numbers (won't change often-mostly cell phones), and once a night have it call the list of numbers and play a message. I can work with a pre-recorded message where I just call in and activate the sequence. I would prefer to be able to call in each night and leave a new message, and then have it call each number and replay the message. I'm sure asterisk would do this, but is probably overkill for my needs. I'm looking for something simple to setup and administer, so that down the road I can turn it over to someone else to maintain the list. I have an older PC and a voice-capable modem that I can use for this. I can also give it a public IP so it can be administered from anywhere. Thanks, Bill Brian Whigham wrote: Bill, Are you talking about an Auto Attendant that can provide precanned messages for callers like a call center does? For example, your cellular providers's support center will make you key in various option codes to talk to the correct department. If that's what you're looking for, use Asterisk PBX. It's an open-source PBX server. see http://voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk http://www.digium.com/ I can help you set up a server, if needed. Brian Whigham Yonder Networks www.yondernetworks.com 478-442-1678 Bill Austin wrote: I need to setup an automated call system. One where someone dials in and activates it (by entering a touch-tone code) and then it goes through a list of numbers it dials and plays a pre-recorded message. Any hints, tips, suggestions, software recommendations, or other advice will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Bill -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Teletronics Sectors
How much can this model be purchased for? It looks like a good high gain H-POL sector IMO. We've been quite pleased with SuperPass sectors but their gain is only 13.5dBi for a 120 Degree H-POL. Sincerely, Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky http://www.KyWiFi.com http://www.KyWiFiVoice.com Phone: 859.274.4033 A Broadband Phone Internet Provider == Wireless Broadband, Local Calling and UNLIMITED Long Distance only $69! No Taxes, No Regulatory Fees, No Hassles FREE Site Survey: http://www.KyWiFi.com == - Original Message - From: Julius Igugu [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 9:26 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Teletronics Sectors http://www.teletronics.com/tant24sector19dbi.html#specs - Original Message - From: Jason Wallace [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 11:24 PM Subject: [WISPA] Teletronics Sectors Anyone using the 19 dbi Hz Pol 120 deg sector from Teletronics, p/n 15-124, in a 3 antenna array? Anyone know what the front to back ratio is on one of these? How about weatherability? Jason Wallace -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.4 very close now
Rick: I think you're confused with 3.65 GHz (still in the works, FCC proposed contention-based sharing mechanism.) This is an additional 255 MHz of spectrum around 5.4 GHz and IT requires Dynamic Frequency Sharing (I think?) - DFS - basically if the radio hears a US DOD RADAR system, it changes channels to get out of the way. It's low power, but some interesting gear should come out for high-bandwidth, relatively short-range. Mac: It IS available to everyone - we'll see it used for WLANs. Good news is that it may well be enough to encourage WLANs and cordless phones to use that portion of the spectrum instead of 2.4 GHz and 5.8 GHz. Thanks, Steve On Mar 6, 2006, at 08:47, Rick Harnish wrote: Mac, As far as I know, the hardware/software has to be contention based to be allowed to use the spectrum. I would doubt if many consumer devices will be allowed to operate in this spectrum. I can tell you that Orthogon has already released the firmware upgrade for the Gemini product to be used for the 5.4 Spectrum. http://www.orthogonsystems.com/support/software.html I just sent an email to them about the release date for the Spectra upgrade. Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mac Dearman Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 11:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.4 very close now Marlon, Please excuse my ignorance, but is this spectrum going to be turned loose to every wireless consumer grade appliances known to man or is this going to be something that is going to be released for the WISP? I know that I am dreaming here!! Thanks, Mac Dearman Maximum Access, LLC. Authorized Barracuda Reseller MikroTik RouterOS Certified www.inetsouth.com www.mac-tel.us www.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief) Rayville, La. 318.728.8600 318.303.4228 318.303.4229 --- Steve Stroh 425-939-0076 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | www.stevestroh.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] OT: VoIP termination
I don't know what volume Matt's dealing with. But, I haven't checked the lowest prices in a few months; so my interest was piqued. Here's what I found. If anyone has any experience with these providers, let me know. Both provide IAX2 and SIP. sellvoip.net (since '97) Product Monthly CostSetup Cost Usage Cost Local DID $1.00 $1.00 $0.011 per minute Toll-Free DID $1.00 $2.00 $0.020 per minute US 48* LNP available DIDs were local to many rural GA areas (where I am) plainvoip USA termination - $0.009 Toll-free terminatoin - $0.005 6/6 billing Currently, I use voipjet.com and voxee.com with much success. Domestic rates are $0.013 and $0.011 per minute, respectively. I think they both bill 6/6. Brian -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams
North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: Eric DaVersa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:57 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams For a Network Operator, you have some incredible new tools as part of the package. You have a GUI interface where you can insert messaging DIRECT TO THE DESKTOP. This means, Dear Customer, your payment is 7 days past due, your account will be shut off if you do not pay within x hours. I think if I tried that with my customers, I would be losing, not gaining, customers. The notion of inserting something into thier data is... too intrusive for me to consider. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Blocking ripe network ip space?
Is there a place to get a list of currently allocated IP space by country? I am considering doing something similar but will probably not do an all out block but maybe do some connection rate limiting of IP space from those countries. -Eric On 3/6/06, David E. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mac Dearman wrote: 90% of spam messages to our network and 99% of the DOS attacks we are suffering are in the IP space of RIPE network and I am considering blocking all IPs from RIPE. What would be the most detrimental affect of this for my clients? other than the obvious no traffic to/from the EU? Anyone else ever done this? If I were a National ISP I realize I couldnt do this - - keep in mind I serve a local rural network :-) in Louisiana Technically, there shouldn't be any major issues. Heck, depending on what kind of router you use, you may even be able to automate the process (completewhois and Team Cymru both offer a number of crazy BGP feed options, you may be able to just get a BGP feed from one of them that has a more-or-less current list of RIPE IPs and just route 'em to Null0). I'm real close to just blocking all of China and Brazil for the same reason - too much spam and random DDOS traffic originating from there. (I haven't seen very much from RIPE space, by comparison.) There is bound to be more than a few legitimate applications hosted in RIPE space that, sooner or later, you or one of your end-users will want to see. Consider starting with merely blocking SMTP traffic, or (if your mail filtering system supports this) just tagging mail from RIPE space as potential spam. And there are other ways to detect and block potential DDOS traffic, though I can't afford most of them, so I'm not the best person to ask on that point. If you really want to stir something up, go ask this question on the NANOG list. :D David Smith MVN.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] YDI AP-Plus Power Supply
Mark, I can tell you for a fact it is 5.0volts/ 4.00A (it also has a propriteary end)and it is an Orinoco AP2000 Power supply as the YDI AP-Plus is an Orinoco AP2000 :-) If you are doing POE you will need an ethernet splitter at the AP and it needs to be fed 48Volts I have pics and links if you need them - - hit me off list or give me a ring if I can help. Mac DearmanMaximum Access, LLC.Authorized Barracuda ResellerMikroTik RouterOS Certifiedwww.inetsouth.comwww.mac-tel.uswww.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief)Rayville, La.318.728.8600 318.303.4228318.303.4229 - Original Message - From: Mark Nash To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 12:44 PM Subject: [WISPA] YDI AP-Plus Power Supply Anyone know what power supply specs I'd need for a YDI AP-Plus (the older kind with the card slots)? I'm removing it from a WiPOP-In-A-Box which has built-in power supplies. I think it's 48vdc. Thanks. Mark NashNetwork EngineerUnwiredOnline.Net350 Holly StreetJunction City, OR 97448http://www.uwol.net541-998-541-998-5599 fax -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams
Sign me up. When and where??? Eric DaVersa wrote: The simple answer to that is don't use that option. The ad optimization is transparent and its basically free money. I usually have to say it 3 times before ISPs start to understand the concept, so in the interest of saving time... It's free money, it's free money, and - you guessed it - it's still free money. Eric DaVersa Vice-President, Business Development NetLogix OFFICE: 858.764.1998 CELL: 858.245.6702 FAX: 858.764.1982 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Koskenmaki Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: Eric DaVersa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:57 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams For a Network Operator, you have some incredible new tools as part of the package. You have a GUI interface where you can insert messaging DIRECT TO THE DESKTOP. This means, Dear Customer, your payment is 7 days past due, your account will be shut off if you do not pay within x hours. I think if I tried that with my customers, I would be losing, not gaining, customers. The notion of inserting something into thier data is... too intrusive for me to consider. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - -- Brian Rohrbacher Reliable Internet, LLC www.reliableinter.net Cell 269-838-8338 Caught up in the Air 1 Thess. 4:17 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] FCC meeting in Jackson, MS Today
Mac, You always seem to get right, Mac. Good to hear. And I agree with your approach, ya'll.-Original Message-From: Mac Dearman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2006 06:40 PMTo: 'WISPA General List'Subject: Re: [WISPA] FCC meeting in Jackson, MS Today I thought I would let all of you know I actually wore a suit tie today to the FCC Katrina review panel today. It seems that 10 minutes is not very long to get your point across once you get started talking. I do think that we faired really well and I caught some slack with my Southern born/bred slang and accent as there were people on the panel who said that they could understand everything I said :-) It was really amazing to me as most of the speakers there were trying to sell their individual wares to the Gov't like ballons that float in "near" space at 66,000 feet and stay aloft for ..drum roll 20 hours!!! I will confess that I was trying to sell them on the right spectrum/frequency for the right job. Did I say TV white space and or sub 700MHz spectrum? - - - - - - I did!!Mac DearmanMaximum Access, LLC.Authorized Barracuda ResellerMikroTik RouterOS Certifiedwww.inetsouth.comwww.mac-tel.uswww.RadioResponse.org (Katrina Relief)Rayville, La.318.728.8600318.303.4228318.303.4229- Original Message - From: "Jason Hensley" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.orgSent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 3:28 PMSubject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Automated Call System Bill, Not sure if you got my offlist email, but you can go to www.tavoca.com and look at their GroupCall product. Does exactly what you need it to do. Friend of mine runs this company and will do great for what you want. - Original Message - From: "Bill Austin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "WISPA General List" wireless@wispa.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 1:54 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT: Automated Call System Hi Brian, I'm actually looking for something not quite as complex. I need a system that I can enter a list of numbers (won't change often-mostly cell phones), and once a night have it call the list of numbers and play a message. I can work with a pre-recorded message where I just call in and activate the sequence. I would prefer to be able to call in each night and leave a new message, and then have it call each number and replay the message. I'm sure asterisk would do this, but is probably overkill for my needs. I'm looking for something simple to setup and administer, so that down the road I can turn it over to someone else to maintain the list. I have an older PC and a voice-capable modem that I can use for this. I can also give it a public IP so it can be administered from anywhere. Thanks, Bill Brian Whigham wrote: Bill, Are you talking about an Auto Attendant that can provide precanned messages for callers like a call center does? For example, your cellular providers's support center will make you key in various option codes to talk to the correct department. If that's what you're looking for, use Asterisk PBX. It's an open-source PBX server. see http://voip-info.org/wiki/index.php?page=Asterisk http://www.digium.com/ I can help you set up a server, if needed. Brian Whigham Yonder Networks www.yondernetworks.com 478-442-1678 Bill Austin wrote: I need to setup an automated call system. One where someone dials in and activates it (by entering a touch-tone code) and then it goes through a list of numbers it dials and plays a pre-recorded message. Any hints, tips, suggestions, software recommendations, or other advice will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Bill -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams
What are the subs that I have to have to get a system like this??? Jory Privett WCCS - Original Message - From: Eric DaVersa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 5:34 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams The simple answer to that is don't use that option. The ad optimization is transparent and its basically free money. I usually have to say it 3 times before ISPs start to understand the concept, so in the interest of saving time... It's free money, it's free money, and - you guessed it - it's still free money. Eric DaVersa Vice-President, Business Development NetLogix OFFICE: 858.764.1998 CELL: 858.245.6702 FAX: 858.764.1982 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Koskenmaki Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: Eric DaVersa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:57 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams For a Network Operator, you have some incredible new tools as part of the package. You have a GUI interface where you can insert messaging DIRECT TO THE DESKTOP. This means, Dear Customer, your payment is 7 days past due, your account will be shut off if you do not pay within x hours. I think if I tried that with my customers, I would be losing, not gaining, customers. The notion of inserting something into thier data is... too intrusive for me to consider. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] New revenue stream
I have client who asked me if a tasteful nude picture web server would be okay to deploy on the network. They are willing to pay 5 times the normal rate for co-location, plus additional fees for high load times. When I called Qwest to find out about their policy they said they aren't in the business of clensing the net or otherwise filtering content. Since this server is not one of the companies, I wonder what sort of liability exists.. It appears this is a huge source of revenue. In fact the same crew says they want to provide DRM downloadable movies of the adult nature. Now I've watched with some interest, what the major hotel chains are doing and how much pay per view adult movies add to their bottom line. I don't think this is a simple - you know I don't like it myself - answer. Its policy, revenue and finding the proper ground. Any experience with this? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] New revenue stream *THREAD CLOSED!*
my apologies to the members of the list if they found it offensive. Reality is we need to consider content rules as much as need to consider VoIP gateways. since you've arbitrarily decided its not 'proper content' based on your view, I've decided to drop my involvement in WISPA. bye On Mar 7, 2006, at 9:35 PM, Rick Harnish wrote: Alex, Please take this offlist. This is not proper content for discussion on the Wispa list servs. Respectfully, Rick Harnish President Supernova Technologies, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office [EMAIL PROTECTED] Founding Member of WISPA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:wireless- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of A. Huppenthal Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:46 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] New revenue stream I have client who asked me if a tasteful nude picture web server would be okay to deploy on the network. They are willing to pay 5 times the normal rate for co-location, plus additional fees for high load times. When I called Qwest to find out about their policy they said they aren't in the business of clensing the net or otherwise filtering content. Since this server is not one of the companies, I wonder what sort of liability exists.. It appears this is a huge source of revenue. In fact the same crew says they want to provide DRM downloadable movies of the adult nature. Now I've watched with some interest, what the major hotel chains are doing and how much pay per view adult movies add to their bottom line. I don't think this is a simple - you know I don't like it myself - answer. Its policy, revenue and finding the proper ground. Any experience with this? -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] New revenue service?
I have been looking into offering a different service Ad removed browsing. Blocking ads as an extra cost service... -- Blair Davis AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A division of: Camp Communication Services, INC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams
What are the subs that I have to have to get a system like this??? Jory Privett WCCS Hi Jory, Are you coming to WiNOG? The people from Adzilla will be there, so you can meet them first-hand and talk with them directly -Charles --- WiNOG Austin, TX March 13-15, 2006 http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jory Privett Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 6:10 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams - Original Message - From: Eric DaVersa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 5:34 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams The simple answer to that is don't use that option. The ad optimization is transparent and its basically free money. I usually have to say it 3 times before ISPs start to understand the concept, so in the interest of saving time... It's free money, it's free money, and - you guessed it - it's still free money. Eric DaVersa Vice-President, Business Development NetLogix OFFICE: 858.764.1998 CELL: 858.245.6702 FAX: 858.764.1982 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Koskenmaki Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 2:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - - Original Message - From: Eric DaVersa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:57 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Adzilla Revenue Streams For a Network Operator, you have some incredible new tools as part of the package. You have a GUI interface where you can insert messaging DIRECT TO THE DESKTOP. This means, Dear Customer, your payment is 7 days past due, your account will be shut off if you do not pay within x hours. I think if I tried that with my customers, I would be losing, not gaining, customers. The notion of inserting something into thier data is... too intrusive for me to consider. North East Oregon Fastnet, LLC 509-593-4061 personal correspondence to: mark at neofast dot net sales inquiries to: purchasing at neofast dot net Fast Internet, NO WIRES! - -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] New revenue stream *THREAD CLOSED!*
Title: Message Like it or not, it is worth noting that p0rn accounts for a VAST OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of Internet traffic -Charles ---WiNOG Austin, TXMarch 13-15, 2006http://www.winog.com -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron WallaceSent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 10:05 PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] New revenue stream *THREAD CLOSED!* Rick, I can certainly understand that many among us are offended by the very mention of nudity on the internet, however, I do not understand why the topicin question cannot be discussed on the WISPA list. I understood the WISPA lists to be a forum of discussion to determine how 'members' felt about the activities of the FCC, and how we could have our interests represented, for example. Rick why is it 'not proper' for us to discuss the propriety of allowing nude web sites, or not allowing, based upon the free and open discussion of the precise impropriety of the question Mr. Huppenthal asked? I am a paid member, I do not allow, if I know, sexually explicit material on my system. Notwithstanding, I believe that an open discussion of the very issue Mr. Huppenthal raised might clear the air and set some valuable guidelines forus all. Ron Wallace Hahnron, Inc. 220 S. Jackson Dt. Addison, MI 49220 Phone: (517)547-8410 Mobile: (517)605-4542 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message-From: Rick Harnish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2006 09:35 PMTo: ''WISPA General List''Subject: RE: [WISPA] New revenue stream *THREAD CLOSED!*Alex,Please take this offlist. This is not proper content for discussion on theWispa list servs.Respectfully, Rick HarnishPresidentSupernova Technologies, Inc.260-827-2482 Office[EMAIL PROTECTED]Founding Member of WISPA -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] OnBehalf Of A. HuppenthalSent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:46 PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: [WISPA] New revenue streamI have client who asked me if a tasteful nude picture web server would be okay to deploy on the network.They are willing to pay 5 times the normal rate for co-location, plus additional fees for high load times.When I called Qwest to find out about their policy they said they aren't in the business of clensing the net or otherwise filtering content.Since this server is not one of the companies, I wonder what sort of liability exists..It appears this is a huge source of revenue. In fact the same crew says they want to provide DRM downloadable movies of the adult nature.Now I've watched with some interest, what the major hotel chains are doing and how much pay per view adult movies add to their bottom line. I don't think this is a simple - you know I don't like it myself - answer. Its policy, revenue and finding the proper ground.Any experience with this?-- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/-- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Moderation Duties and Criticism
To All, I took over the moderation of the wireless@wispa.org list about a year and one half ago. The previous moderator handed over the reigns for a variety of reasons but many of which were criticisms about how he did his job and the personal stress involved. I have received the same criticisms and have let them hit my thick skin as gracefully as I could. This position is not a fun one, I need to try and keep up with about 5 WISPA listservs as well as other duties for 50 [EMAIL PROTECTED] lists. Tonight, I was about 75 messages behind when I found time to catch up. Alexs post with the title, New Revenue Stream was one of the newest messages when I checked. I will admit, I wasnt in the best mood when I read it. Knowing that this list is publicly monitored, I really did not feel it was the proper place to discuss hosting pornography and describing how profitable it could be. I try to be pretty liberal in my moderation duties, but I felt this one stepped over the line. Several of you feel I was in error. Possibly. I have received a few complaints about my decision. This decision to moderate in no way harbored ill thoughts towards Alex Huppenthal. I would have responded the same way on that thread for any poster. I am disappointed he took my action so deeply to heart. Normally, I would not let a few complaints bother me, but in this case I am choosing to respond. While I stand by my decision that this was not proper content for this list, I will allow the thread to continue if the members feel it is important. If you feel I was in error, feel free to contact me offlist. Respectfully, Rick Harnish President OnlyInternet Broadband Wireless, Inc. 260-827-2482 Office 260-307-4000 Cell 260-918-4340 VoIP www.oibw.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
