RE: [WISPA] OSPF routing question (nubie to OSPF)
Marshall - In my option that is the best way to migrate. In Cisco world (and probably all routers), routes are indexed by an administrative distance. Static routes have an AD of 1, BGP-20, OSPF-110, etc. Whichever one has the best distance, is the one that the router installs in the routing table. So, you can turn up OSPF all over, verifiy that they are adjacent, then remove your static routes one by one. -Russ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 5:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OSPF routing question (nubie to OSPF) All, I have a fully and manually routed network of 5-10 subnets. I am about to upgrade one of my backhaul links to 5G, and thought now might be a time to get my feet wet with OSPF. I clearly see how the manual routing tables are not very scale-able. Here is my one question before I spend too much time including OSPF as part of the upgrade. Can I run OSPF on a system that has my manual static routes, but OSPF is attached to a new interface. At the other end of the new interface, is an OSPF interface on another manually routed system. Would this work? This way I could preserve network stability by changing only one small part of the network and OSPF. Later, I could remove some of my manual routes and add OSPF to other routers. Is this possible? Is this a practical way to migrate away from static routing? Any better suggestions? Thanks in advance, Marshall Rabbit Meadows Technology -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re[2]: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results
Hello KyWiFi, As someone who has many towers with 900 omni's ( and many years supporting them), this combo ( SR9 plus mikrotik/starOS/whatever) eliminates the desire to ever deploy an omni again. IMHO. Some of our most rural areas are so polluted in 900mhz, an omni just doesn't cut it. Mikrotik now needs GPS polling.. Barry Friday, October 13, 2006, 11:00:21 AM, you wrote: KL Thank you for sharing this information with the list Joe, I appreciate KL it and I'm sure others do too! KL Please let us know if you decide to play with 900Mhz using an omni KL instead of a sector as I would be interested in hearing the range that KL is possible with an omni compared to a sector. I have my eye on the KL PacWireless OD9-11 (http://tinyurl.com/vq7dj). KL TGIF. KL Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KL KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky KL Your Hometown Broadband Provider KL http://www.KyWiFi.com KL Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 KL === KL $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet KL $14.99 Home Phone Service KL $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV KL - No Phone Line Required for DSL KL - FREE Activation Equipment KL - Affordable Upfront Pricing KL - Locally Owned Operated KL - We Also Service Most Rural Areas KL === KL - Original Message - KL From: Joe Laura [EMAIL PROTECTED] KL To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org KL Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 10:44 AM KL Subject: Re: [WISPA] Initial SR9 test results KL Well, I finally got time to hang the 900 A/P tonight. MT with SR9 on a 532a. KL Client is a Rb112. Superpass 10dbi sector and a 10dbi panel for the client. KL While its not the golden bullet sorta speak I am very impressed with it. KL What better place to test than City Park. Its full of old tall oaks. From KL about two miles out I was seeing -75 signal and easily squeezing 2 megs up KL and down. I always see a lower upload on other gear but the 900 down and up KL always seemed to be almost the same. I have had many calls from a KL subdivision that was flooded from the storm and they still do not have bell KL or cable in there. I tried doing two houses in that subdivision without any KL luck with 2.4. Its loaded with trees. Well from my truck at these two KL locations I had no problem seeing a -72 signal. As I got a little closer to KL the pop maybe 1 mile I was seeing a -70 with still quite a few trees in the KL way and I was seeing four megs up and down This is where it seemed to peak KL out at. Like someone said its another tool in the tool box. Its just what I KL needed because while 2.4 will burn through some trees the 900m shots will do KL so much better. KL Superior Wireless KL New Orleans,La. KL www.superior1.com KL -- KL WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org KL Subscribe/Unsubscribe: KL http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless KL Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Best regards, Barrymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband WirelessNetworkWithDataFloAcquisition
rwf wrote: I guess... If you want to give your company away. Your WISP is for sale, I believe- would you take that if offered? I'm sure Matt wants to expand his network up thataway g. I would certainly be interested in picking up companies at such a valuation. However, I am only interested in companies with mostly business customers under contract. In fact, the perfect candidate would be a company with only business customers that are under contract for dedicated data services. Of course, the market is currently valuing such companies at 3x revenue on stock deals. There are ways of getting a better premium, but I haven't found too many operators who have erected enough barriers to entry enabling higher valuations. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Loading freetype for cacti
I have tried to load freetype 2.1.10 and 2.2.1 so I can run cacti monitoring. Both versions appear to load just fine on my RedHat RHEL3.0 system, but rrdtool can't find it. Any suggestions? Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Loading freetype for cacti
Scott Reed wrote: I have tried to load freetype 2.1.10 and 2.2.1 so I can run cacti monitoring. Both versions appear to load just fine on my RedHat RHEL3.0 system, but rrdtool can't find it. Any suggestions? Never had a similar problem before, but I would double check and see if I had the development freetype package. If that didnt help I would search for the freetype libraries on the box, if they are located in an unconventional place I would add the directory to /etc/ld.so.conf, then run the ldconf . Sincerely, Jeremy Davis -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] Covad ExpandsBroadband WirelessNetworkWithDataFloAcquisition
Of course, the market is currently valuing such companies at 3x revenue on stock deals. But, minority stock in a privately held company (or even many public OTC companies) is generally worthless -Charles --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Can anyone help a stranded motorist?
anyone around Va.??? Marlon (509) 982-2181 Equipment sales (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)And I run my own wisp! 64.146.146.12 (net meeting) www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: patrick beamish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 2:23 PM Subject: kabliga bohemia contact info here is that info so you can see if there are 6meg download ISPs around me address: 1000A robey str radford, VA phone # : (***) 239- there ya go =p -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Loading freetype for cacti
Thanks Jeremy. Wrong locations was the problem. Now I just have to figure out how to use this. Are there templates for RouterOS? Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net -- Original Message --- From: Jeremy Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:47:58 -0400 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Loading freetype for cacti Scott Reed wrote: I have tried to load freetype 2.1.10 and 2.2.1 so I can run cacti monitoring. Both versions appear to load just fine on my RedHat RHEL3.0 system, but rrdtool can't find it. Any suggestions? Never had a similar problem before, but I would double check and see if I had the development freetype package. If that didnt help I would search for the freetype libraries on the box, if they are located in an unconventional place I would add the directory to /etc/ld.so.conf, then run the ldconf . Sincerely, Jeremy Davis -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- End of Original Message --- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] CovadExpandsBroadband WirelessNetworkWithDataFloAcquisition
I would prefer 1.5x cash vs 3x stock Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Wu Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 11:06 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] CovadExpandsBroadband WirelessNetworkWithDataFloAcquisition Of course, the market is currently valuing such companies at 3x revenue on stock deals. But, minority stock in a privately held company (or even many public OTC companies) is generally worthless -Charles --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OSPF routing question (nubie to OSPF)
So if I understand you, I can fire up OSPF daemons and play with their configuration throughout my network. I can then query the daemons to see what their routing tables are. Once I see that the OSPF daemon has a good routing table, I can remove some of my a static routes? (route del -net n.n.n.n gw x.x.x.x) Since a static route is not defined for a network, I would worry that the static default route would apply before OSPF? On 10/16/06, Russ Kreigh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marshall - In my option that is the best way to migrate. In Cisco world (and probably all routers), routes are indexed by an administrative distance. Static routes have an AD of 1, BGP-20, OSPF-110, etc. Whichever one has the best distance, is the one that the router installs in the routing table. So, you can turn up OSPF all over, verifiy that they are adjacent, then remove your static routes one by one. -Russ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of rabbtux rabbtux Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 5:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] OSPF routing question (nubie to OSPF) All, I have a fully and manually routed network of 5-10 subnets. I am about to upgrade one of my backhaul links to 5G, and thought now might be a time to get my feet wet with OSPF. I clearly see how the manual routing tables are not very scale-able. Here is my one question before I spend too much time including OSPF as part of the upgrade. Can I run OSPF on a system that has my manual static routes, but OSPF is attached to a new interface. At the other end of the new interface, is an OSPF interface on another manually routed system. Would this work? This way I could preserve network stability by changing only one small part of the network and OSPF. Later, I could remove some of my manual routes and add OSPF to other routers. Is this possible? Is this a practical way to migrate away from static routing? Any better suggestions? Thanks in advance, Marshall Rabbit Meadows Technology -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] MT Solar set up
Does any one have an all in one solar solution for running a few MT RB532's loaded with CM9's/SR2/SR5..etc? I have three new towers and instead of running power/trenching/conduit..etc I would like to install solar, but am a complete idiot in this area. Something like http://tinyurl.com/y5tchw would be wonderful. but how much energy does it take to power half a dozen MT RB532's loaded with radios? One tower will have 5 RB532's and the other will only have 2 RB532's and all mPCI slots filled Any help would surely be appreciated - - on or off list. Thanks, Mac -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Superpass
Anyone know where I can buy SuperPass antennas near the mid-west?? Looking for a 60deg 900MHz H-pol. -- Blair Davis AOL IM Screen Name -- Theory240 West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 A division of: Camp Communication Services, INC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] StarOS/WRAP/CM9 Issue
Since clients are talking to this particular CM9 I assume your using a sector or an omni? Are you using Coax surge protector that is properly grounded? Atheros cards are using a rf selector switch which is fairly sensitive and easily get damaged which results in about 20dB signal loss which in many cases means no association from clients. The other radio is also a CM9 but your using a highly directional antenna that don't pick up as much static energy as an omni (worst ones) or sector. / Eje -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 14:46 To: WISPA List Subject: [WISPA] StarOS/WRAP/CM9 Issue We are experiencing a recurring problem with one of the WRAP boards running StarOS with CM-9 cards in our network. The problem initially started out with the board locking up every 3 - 4 days like clockwork. The problem was resolved by an onsite reboot because I was unable to login to the board and it was unresponsive after it locked up. After several onsite visits over the past month and after replacing the power supply, poe injector and Cat5 surge protectors on both ends of the Cat5, I decided that it was a bad WRAP board so I replaced it with a new one. To be on the safe side, I re-configured the board manually without uploading the server.dat backup file. The board worked fine for a week and then the clients on wpci1 lost their connection. I was able to login to the board and reboot it this time but the reboot did not resolve the issue. None of the clients on this CM-9 were able to re-associate to it following the reboot. The issue was resolved by replacing that particular CM-9 card with a new one. Well, a week later, it is doing the same exact thing again. The other CM-9 is working properly as it is serving a BH link to one of our other sites. The signal on it is normal and clients are passing traffic through it (wpci2) normally. Has anyone experienced this type of problem in their own network? At this point, I am thinking we received a bad batch of CM-9 cards or there is a problem with the Cat5. Being that it is happening with the same card slot (wpci1) I honestly do not feel it is a Cat5 related issue so I'm leaning more towards it being a bad batch of CM-9 cards or defective WRAP board. Any tips on further troubleshooting this issue? What are the odds of it being a problem with the Cat5 cable? Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky Your Hometown Broadband Provider http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] -- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Loading freetype for cacti
http://forums.cacti.net/about8855.htmlhighlight=mikrotik On a related note, I have been having problems with cacti and RouterOS 2.9.20+ and getting interface statistics. The queries discover the interfaces without a problem but the traffic statistics are never gathered (all values are NaN). However the other SNMP values such as CPU, disk, uptime and wireless stats all work without a hitch. Has anyone else experienced this? Sam Tetherow Sandhills Wireless Scott Reed wrote: Thanks Jeremy. Wrong locations was the problem. Now I just have to figure out how to use this. Are there templates for RouterOS? Scott Reed Owner NewWays Wireless Networking Network Design, Installation and Administration www.nwwnet.net http://www.nwwnet.net/ *-- Original Message ---* From: Jeremy Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 10:47:58 -0400 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Loading freetype for cacti Scott Reed wrote: I have tried to load freetype 2.1.10 and 2.2.1 so I can run cacti monitoring. Both versions appear to load just fine on my RedHat RHEL3.0 system, but rrdtool can't find it. Any suggestions? Never had a similar problem before, but I would double check and see if I had the development freetype package. If that didnt help I would search for the freetype libraries on the box, if they are located in an unconventional place I would add the directory to /etc/ld.so.conf, then run the ldconf . Sincerely, Jeremy Davis -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ *--- End of Original Message ---* !DSPAM:16,4533a970109908155416029! http://mail.shwisp.net/spam/dspam.cgi?template=historyuser=tetherowretrain=spamsignatureID=16,4533a970109908155416029 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Covad ExpandsBroadband WirelessNetworkWithDataFloAcquisition
Charles Wu wrote: But, minority stock in a privately held company (or even many public OTC companies) is generally worthless Without arguing the point, stock valuations are higher than cash because of the added risk. If you look at the NextWeb purchase, which was 3x revenue; a good portion of it was stock. At the time, Covad's stock was $1.10; today it is $1.48. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Superpass
He will ship to you Directly, email/phone him. You have a Good Day now, Carl A Jeptha http://www.airnet.ca Office Phone: 905 349-2084 Office Hours: 9:00am - 5:00pm skype cajeptha Blair Davis wrote: Anyone know where I can buy SuperPass antennas near the mid-west?? Looking for a 60deg 900MHz H-pol. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA]Covad ExpandsBroadband WirelessNetworkWithDataFloAcquisition
Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 1:49 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA]Covad ExpandsBroadband WirelessNetworkWithDataFloAcquisition Charles Wu wrote: But, minority stock in a privately held company (or even many public OTC companies) is generally worthless Without arguing the point, stock valuations are higher than cash because of the added risk. If you look at the NextWeb purchase, which was 3x revenue; a good portion of it was stock. At the time, Covad's stock was $1.10; today it is $1.48. -Matt -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 10/14/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA]CovadExpandsBroadband WirelessNetworkWithDataFloAcquisition
That depends on how much had been invested, and whether someone wants an end game sooner. Stock deals have the potential for larger return in the long run. I believe in the next year there will be a hgih volume bid war for WISPs in major markets getting top dollar. The reason is that, the Hype of Wireless is more valuable to a large publically traded ISP, in stock holder perception, than the network and revenue that they are buying. The average consumer doesn't understand jack about what wireless's capabilty is, they just know Wireless is the next big thing, and the providers that own the major markets have the best chance to win in the long run. I'd also argue that one should demand/negotiate the stock price trade based on the buyer's value prior to the anouncement of the buyout, so you can sell your own portion of stock a month down the road, after the stock value skyrockets. Easilly could increase the profit from sale 20%, provided a public company buying. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 11:24 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA]CovadExpandsBroadband WirelessNetworkWithDataFloAcquisition I would prefer 1.5x cash vs 3x stock Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Wu Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 11:06 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] CovadExpandsBroadband WirelessNetworkWithDataFloAcquisition Of course, the market is currently valuing such companies at 3x revenue on stock deals. But, minority stock in a privately held company (or even many public OTC companies) is generally worthless -Charles --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 10/14/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] lightning
Hi Brad, Im curious as to why you chose this particular model of ferrite and if you run poe through these cables? Did these resolve a problem you where having with interference on the cat5? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jenco Wireless Sent: 08 October 2006 00:33 To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] lightning http://pdfcatalog.digikey.com/T063/1150.pdf#search=%22digikey%20240-2318-nd%22 I use the 240-2318-ND (towards the bottom of the page). Just wrap the Ethernet cable through it as many times as possible. You have to purchase 100 to get that low, low price I mentioned :-). We are located in Ohio. Brad Hagstrom (Jenco Wireless) On 10/7/06, KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you share some info on the $1.50 inductor you reference below? Do you then ground the inductor to the mounting arm which is then grounded to an earth ground? Please share if you don't mind, inquiring minds would LOVE to know. ;-) Also, where are the bulk of your subscribers located (city/state)? I would venture to say that WISP's out west have fewer lightning related failures than WISP's in the East or South. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky Your Hometown Broadband Provider http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: Jenco Wireless [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] lightning I lost 15% of my CPE's one year.It was a dry Summer (I theorize the earth was not conducting well), then we had a couple of bad storms.Usinga $1.50 inductor on the Ethernet cable near the radios really seems to have helped a lot. Brad Hagstrom On 10/7/06, Jason Hensley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I've been fairly lucky.The only lightning losses I've had were on my tower.I've got one CPE that may have been taken out by lightning, but it came through the house and blew a LOT of other stuff as well.To me, to add $30 per install doesn't make sense when I've only lost 1 (percentage-wise, less than 1% for me) in a little over a year. - Original Message - From: KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 2:53 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] lightning Lightning is by far the largest threat to our WISP. It would be interesting to know the typical CPE failure rate (due to lightning) experienced by WISP's. I know that we'll replace 10% (+/- 5%) this year due to lightning. We use the $30 Citel brand Cat5 surge protectors on both ends of the outdoor shielded Cat5 and we also ground the mounting arm to an approved earth ground via 10 guage copper wire. I don't believe we've taken any direct strikes, mainly blown Ethernet ports on the CPE or AP. IMO, owning a WISP would be a LOT less stressful if wireless gear was not so prone to damage caused by lightning. BTW, if you would like to share your own CPE-lightning-failure-rates with the list, please do so. Same goes for lightning protection tips, tricks and wisdom. Anyone using coaxial surge protection on 50% or more of your CPE installations? If so, would you say that it is worth the extra $15 - $20 per install? How do your failure rates with coaxial surge protection compare with installations where there is none? Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky Your Hometown Broadband Provider http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas === - Original Message - From: Brent Hegerfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:06 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] lightning Lightning has not been very kind to us the past few months.Knocked a backhaul out on our main tower, another tower hit 3 times (twice in 1 week), another tower hit this past week, going on 10+ CPE's.I'm told the probability of lightning over the next 4 months is low.Let's hope. Brent Hegerfeld East Allen High Speed Internet, LLC. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of KyWiFi LLC Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 1:31 PM To: WISPA
Re: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband WirelessNetworkWithDataFloAcquisition
Yes, but that probably represents considerations regarding minimizing Risk, not necessarilly Value. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 12:04 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband WirelessNetworkWithDataFloAcquisition If I had a offer for 1.4x revenue in Cash, I would think about it... If I had a offer for 1.7x cash, I would cash in Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Wu Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2006 11:42 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband Wireless NetworkWithDataFloAcquisition Out of curiosity -- how is 1.4x annual revenue considered cheap Keep in mind...this is $$$ CASH $$$, not stock -Charles --- WiNOG Wireless Roadshows Coming to a City Near You http://www.winog.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tom DeReggi Sent: Saturday, October 14, 2006 9:54 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband Wireless Network WithDataFloAcquisition Which sounds like to me, DataFlow was in a distressed state, doing a firesale.. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 11:04 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Covad Expands Broadband Wireless Network With DataFloAcquisition Does anyone know anything about DataFlo? According to the press release it appears they were bought for 1.4x revenue, which seems awfully cheap. -Matt Peter R. wrote: Covad Communications Group Inc. announced it will acquire the assets of DataFlo Communications LLC, a Chicago-based broadband wireless provider, adding a sixth market to its coverage area. Covad will acquire substantially all the assets of DataFlo for approximately $1.4 million in cash. For the full 2006 year, DataFlo expects to generate approximately $1 million in revenue. In keeping with Covad's profitability goals, the transaction is EBITDA accretive. The transaction is expected to close later this month subject to customary closing conditions and regulatory approvals. Covad already offers broadband wireless to Los Angeles, San Diego, San Francisco, Orange County and Las Vegas through its wireless subsidiary NextWeb, which it acquired earlier this year. Speaking at the Internet Telephony Conference Expo today, Claude Tolbert, Covad's senior vice president of product solutions planning and priorities, said the acquisition of NextWeb was primarily in response to regulatory uncertainty over the company's access to incumbent broadband networks. With that concern ameliorated, he said, the DataFlo deal is more of a continuation of an overlay network strategy. Broadband wireless allows the company to provide higher-capacity services. It can offer 100mbps on unlicensed band and 10mbps on licensed bands - speeds unavailable with DSL. Broadband wireless also enables Covad to turn up services more quickly, reducing intervals from 25 days for wireline to 10 days for wireless. It also enables the company to serve clientele with temporary needs. Tolbert said the DataFlo network is pre-WiMAX and serves businesses via a direct sales force. This distribution strategy, he added, will help Covad to balance its predominantly wholesale focus. -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.3/474 - Release Date: 10/13/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.408 / Virus Database: 268.13.4/476 - Release Date: 10/14/2006 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] lightning
Hi Paul. I chose this model for an FM tower and the total amount of inductance. They work fine for PoE as well. After using these, I was able to get my Ethernet speed increased from 10 Mbps to 100 on several different devices on this tower, so they definitely worked for that. On 10/16/06, Paul Hendry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Brad, I'm curious as to why you chose this particular model of ferrite and if you run poe through these cables? Did these resolve a problem you where having with interference on the cat5? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jenco WirelessSent: 08 October 2006 00:33 To: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] lightning http://pdfcatalog.digikey.com/T063/1150.pdf#search=%22digikey%20240-2318-nd%22 I use the 240-2318-ND (towards the bottom of the page). Just wrap the Ethernet cable through it as many times as possible. You have to purchase 100 to get that low, low price I mentioned :-). We are located in Ohio. Brad Hagstrom (Jenco Wireless) On 10/7/06, KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can you share some info on the $1.50 inductor you reference below?Do you then ground the inductor to the mounting arm which is then grounded to an earth ground? Please share if you don't mind, inquiring minds would LOVE to know. ;-)Also, where are the bulk of your subscribers located (city/state)? Iwould venture to say that WISP's out west have fewer lightning related failures than WISP's in the East or South. Shannon D. Denniston, Co-FounderKyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, KentuckyYour Hometown Broadband Provider http://www.KyWiFi.comCall Us Today: 859.274.4033===$29.99 DSL High Speed Internet$14.99 Home Phone Service$19.99 All Digital Satellite TV- No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation Equipment- Affordable Upfront Pricing- Locally Owned Operated- We Also Service Most Rural Areas===- Original Message -From: Jenco Wireless [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.orgSent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 11:02 AMSubject: Re: [WISPA] lightningI lost 15% of my CPE's one year.It was a dry Summer (I theorize the earthwas not conducting well), then we had a couple of bad storms.Usinga $1.50 inductor on the Ethernet cable near the radios really seems to have helped a lot.Brad HagstromOn 10/7/06, Jason Hensley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I've been fairly lucky.The only lightning losses I've had were on my tower.I've got one CPE that may have been taken out by lightning, but it came through the house and blew a LOT of other stuff as well.To me, to add $30 per install doesn't make sense when I've only lost 1 (percentage-wise, less than 1% for me) in a little over a year. - Original Message - From: KyWiFi LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 2:53 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] lightning Lightning is by far the largest threat to our WISP. It would be interesting to know the typical CPE failure rate (due to lightning) experienced by WISP's. I know that we'll replace 10% (+/- 5%) this year due to lightning. We use the $30 Citel brand Cat5 surge protectors on both ends of the outdoor shielded Cat5 and we also ground the mounting arm to an approved earth ground via 10 guage copper wire. I don't believe we've taken any direct strikes, mainly blown Ethernet ports on the CPE or AP. IMO, owning a WISP would be a LOT less stressful if wireless gear was not so prone to damage caused by lightning. BTW, if you would like to share your own CPE-lightning-failure-rates with the list, please do so. Same goes for lightning protection tips, tricks and wisdom. Anyone using coaxial surge protection on 50% or more of your CPE installations? If so, would you say that it is worth the extra $15 - $20 per install? How do your failure rates with coaxial surge protection compare with installations where there is none?Shannon D. Denniston, Co-Founder KyWiFi, LLC - Mt. Sterling, Kentucky Your Hometown Broadband Provider http://www.KyWiFi.com Call Us Today: 859.274.4033 === $29.99 DSL High Speed Internet $14.99 Home Phone Service $19.99 All Digital Satellite TV - No Phone Line Required for DSL - FREE Activation Equipment - Affordable Upfront Pricing - Locally Owned Operated - We Also Service Most Rural Areas ===- Original Message - From: Brent Hegerfeld [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, October 06, 2006 5:06 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] lightning Lightning has not been very kind to us the past few months.Knocked a backhaul out on our main tower, another tower hit 3 times (twice in 1 week), another tower hit this past week, going on 10+ CPE's.I'm told the probability of lightning over the next 4 months is low.Let's hope. Brent Hegerfeld East Allen High
