[WISPA] WISP and Electric Co-op partnerships
Are there are any known successful operations of joint ventures between. a wireless operator and an electric co-op? if so, who are they? What made the co-op successful? Just doing some research. Joe Miller www.dslbyair.com www.facebook.com/dslbyair 228-831-8881 "We believe that everyone has a right to high speed Internet. It should not matter where you work or live. We do this one customer at a time". ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] question of the day
Mark, AT and others like them are getting into the LTE space which does have an impact on our customer base. I guess my question should have been…. “What did it take you to establish a profitable Fixed Wireless system and how have you been able to compete with AT’s of the world?” Joe From: Mark Radabaugh [mailto:m...@amplex.net] Sent: Monday, October 30, 2017 11:23 AM To: joe.mil...@dslbyair.com; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] question of the day Kind of an open ended question - do you have any more specifics of what they are looking for? I think you already know most of this - access to capital, spectrum, competent employees and management, vertical assets, and bandwidth, all at reasonable rates are the keys to a profitable fixed wireless service. Everything after that is just standard business. You compete and win against AT by avoiding many of the fixed costs that AT has, and by doing things that generally don’t work well in large corporations - having local knowledge and decision making, ability to use non-standardized sites, localized marketing and sales. You also use inexpensive spectrum that you do not have to pay billions of dollars for in upfront costs. You can use unlicensed spectrum because you have local installers who are able to optimize the signal to customer locations, something that AT is not prepared or particularly interested in doing. The challenge isn’t competing with AT for a small to midsize WISP. The real challenge is competing with small to midsize WISP’s when you get to be the size of AT Turn the question around on them. How can a company the size of AT, with little interest in serving rural areas, compete with the people who live here and have a real interest in making this business succeed? If AT makes a hash of it they still get a paycheck next Friday. If you screw it up it’s a different story. Mark On Oct 30, 2017, at 11:46 AM, Joe Miller <joe.mil...@dslbyair.com> wrote: I am trying to make forward progress in the state government in MS and this question was raised: “What does it take to establish a profitable Fixed Wireless system and how this can compete with AT?” I could use some input on the different ways you have done this. Regards, Joe Miller <http://www.dslbyair.com/> www.dslbyair.com <http://www.facebook.com/dslbyair> www.facebook.com/dslbyair 228-831-8881 "We believe that everyone has a right to high speed Internet. It should not matter where you work or live. We do this one customer at a time". ___ Wireless mailing list <mailto:Wireless@wispa.org> Wireless@wispa.org <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] question of the day
I am trying to make forward progress in the state government in MS and this question was raised: "What does it take to establish a profitable Fixed Wireless system and how this can compete with AT?" I could use some input on the different ways you have done this. Regards, Joe Miller www.dslbyair.com www.facebook.com/dslbyair 228-831-8881 "We believe that everyone has a right to high speed Internet. It should not matter where you work or live. We do this one customer at a time". ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Vicksburg, MS
I forwarded the email to the Mississippi list From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Paul Vingiello Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2016 3:26 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Vicksburg, MS I would appreciate it if someone that services Vicksburg MS, or probably closer to Rolling Rock, MS would contact me. I have a group of customers just a tad North of there that is looking for service, and I can't quite reach them. -- Thanks, Paul Vingiello 318-884-0022 pvingie...@nexussystems.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] CenturyLink ... Will They Work With A WISP?
I have had some not so good experiences with their bonded T-1’s in the past. Maybe things have gotten better now. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Tim Way Sent: Friday, June 10, 2016 10:41 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] CenturyLink ... Will They Work With A WISP? Does anyone have experience working with CenturyLink in regards to getting a proper circuit from that will legally allow you to resell bandwidth on it? In particular I know of a remote area that can get residential DSL but for miles and miles after that there is nothing. My hope is CenturyLink would convert that a business service would allow me to resell it. I'd be willing to extend from there outwards into areas that are completely without non satellite or cellular service. Some quick Google work shows up only 1 relevant result and it would seem I would need to be a CLEC to make that work. Being the peach they are usually to work with just looking for what others have experienced before I try to work through some phone trees at CenturyLink. Thanks, Tim ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Wifi Outdoor Cams
Call these people, I just got off the phone with them myself, http://www.netzeye.com/catalog/onvif-cameras-c-61.html I bought a couple of the IP cameras to test out. Also, a better price point an UBNT. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Ryan McKenzie Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 9:26 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wifi Outdoor Cams Chris, Wow that is good info. I had no idea they had removed the RTSP. And I was just about to spec UBNT cams in a project using RTSP. Have you found a good alternative? Someone else in this thread mentioned Arecont cams. Are they cheap and provide RTSP? Thanks, Ryan McKenzie 385-215-WIFI On 9/25/14, 10:34 PM, Chris Ruschmann wrote: The newer UVC cams apparently don't have it at all. And the aircam beta is currently set to remove it for good. So your good if you never update. But what do you do if you need another or RMA? SOL I guess... I started a thread in the beta forums and called on UBNT to answer for there crime and got crickets. sent from my phone! On Sep 25, 2014 8:18 PM, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: Do you know what firmware version lost RSTP? Can the newer cams be rolled back to the old firmware or do I need to return them to my supplier? If I can't do RSTP directly from the cam, they are mostly useless to me. -- On 9/25/2014 5:57 PM, Chris Ruschmann wrote: Be careful with UBNT cameras now. They are/have disabled RSTP completly. So what you have to do now is backhaul your feed to a Unifi Video server then get your RTSP stream from there. It changed the game in how we are going to be doing cameras now as we were taking RTSP streams selectively and directly from the camera when we wanted the info so we didn't have to waste 5Mbps per stream at all times to our head ends. Plus they will only work with Unifi Video which is lame as well. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of LTI - Dennis Burgess Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 1:37 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wifi Outdoor Cams We use UBNT cameras and MT backhauls, SXTs are cheap: ) On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 3:54 PM, TJ Trout t...@pcguys.us wrote: I use geovision IP cameras, they work great but no wifi options. On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Got a project that requires 10-12 outdoor cams, prefer wifi units so we can backhaul them in 5 ghz Any ideas? Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Author of http://www.wlan1.com/product_p/mikrotik%20book-2.htm Learn RouterOS- Second Edition Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net/ http://www.linktechs.net - Skype: linktechs -- Create Wireless Coverage's with http://www.towercoverage.com/ www.towercoverage.com - 900Mhz - LTE - 3G - 3.65 - TV Whitespace ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- West Michigan Wireless ISP Allegan, Michigan 49010 269-686-8648 A Division of: Camp Communication Services, INC ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Mimosa Networks New product released
Of all the distributors listed on their web site…. No one is carrying them yet. anyone know a cost on these? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 8:02 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mimosa Networks New product released The connectorized version was less than the AF5, though you would obviously need to add antennas. I'd recommend the Jirous ones. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions https://twitter.com/ICSIL _ From: Adair Winter ada...@amarillowireless.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 7:59:03 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mimosa Networks New product released What's something like this going to cost? Or is that still a highly guarded secret? :) On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 7:49 AM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: http://www.mimosa.co/home/b5-page.html Gino A. Villarini President Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. www.aeronetpr.com @aeronetpr ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- Adair Winter VP of Network Operations / Owner Amarillo Wireless | 806.316.5071 C: 806.231.7180 http://www.amarillowireless.net http://www.amarillowireless.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Small NEMA Enclosures
Sam, Try http://www.enclosurehub.com/productcart/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory=925 Joe -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Sam Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 2:06 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Small NEMA Enclosures What do you guy use for small NEMA waterproof enclosures? These would be the size to hold three UBNT PoE and a small (four-port) switch and corresponding AC adapter, and an electrical block with four receptacles for plugging in the aforementioned items. Thanks, Sam ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Who is using Towercoverage.com ?
Sweet!!! From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Patient Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 1:12 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who is using Towercoverage.com ? Ok, Ya'll win. The programmers are working on this as we speak. Finding the needed height for the desired signal is going to be automatic. The site is going to look at the desired signal. If it is below what it should be the it is going to start raising the antenna until the desired signal is reached and return the estimated height needed for the link. You won't need to click to move it up. This will be dynamic. Still needs more testing before it goes live. Jim From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 12:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who is using Towercoverage.com ? From 1:33 PM Eastern today. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 1:56 PM, James Howard ja...@litewire.net wrote: Including the .9472 days since you asked the question? From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 12:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who is using Towercoverage.com ? I'll give you 1.47 days. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net wrote: BTW, give us a day or two! Think we have a idea on this that will help! J Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Author of Learn RouterOS- Second Edition http://www.wlan1.com/product_p/mikrotik%20book-2.htm Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net http://www.linktechs.net/ - Skype: linktechs -- Create Wireless Coverage's with http://www.towercoverage.com/ www.towercoverage.com - 900Mhz - LTE - 3G - 3.65 - TV Whitespace From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2014 2:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Who is using Towercoverage.com ? I'm having a hard time adjusting to this from Radio Mobile. There's all the same stupid interface shortfalls, for example wanting to know what a customer's CPE would be without adding a site and putting them in the same list. I feel with technology as it is, it shouldn't be so convoluted to simply put a dot on a map and see what the signal would be from a tower while being able to adjust the elevation on the fly. I'm wondering if there's another list/forum for this service, too. There's no way I'm going write a bible of questions for support, it doesn't make a whole lot of sense for either of us. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless _ Total Control Panel Login https://asp.reflexion.net/login?domain=litewire.net To: ja...@litewire.net https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=242260993domain=litewire. net From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org https://asp.reflexion.net/address-properties?aID=2086271067domain=litewire .net Message Score: 1 High (60): Pass My Spam Blocking Level: High Medium (75): Pass Low (90): Pass Block https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2bl-sender-address=1rID=242260 993aID=2086271067domain=litewire.net this sender / Block https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2ent=1bl-sender-address=1rID= 242260993aID=2086271067domain=litewire.net this sender enterprise-wide Block https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2bl-sender-domain=1rID=2422609 93aID=2086271067domain=litewire.net wispa.org / Block https://asp.reflexion.net/FooterAction?ver=2ent=1bl-sender-domain=1rID=2 42260993aID=2086271067domain=litewire.net wispa.org enterprise-wide This message was delivered because the content filter score did not exceed your filter level. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] Letters of recommendation needed by the WISPA group
Ladies and gentlemen, Finally after over 8 long years since hurricane Katrina, we are really close to deploying wireless Internet service into the Waveland, Bay St Louis, and Perlington areas of Hancock Co MS. Ground 0 of Hurricane Katrina Aug 29, 2005. I have spent years working on this project since WISPA / Part15 / T1 International left the area. The current infrastructure of the phone and cable companies are still sub par due to the salt water intrusion of the flood waters that destroyed most of the county and with the small population left, they are not willing to spend the millions required to replace it. I feel that this is a great opportunity to let the powers that be in Hancock Co know that we, the WISPA group have not forgotten about these people. I believe that bringing this technology back into the area will help with the economical re-growth of Hancock County, MS. Although the FCC map does not show this as a high cost area for Broadband, I assure you that it is. I have a tech who lives in Waveland that has to use a MiFi card because she cannot get high speed Internet at her house. With this she is subject to overages from the carrier. This problem is wide spread throughout the area. I am today asking for letters of support from this group on your company letter head that I can take with me when I meet with the new Mayor of Bay St Louis tomorrow at 3pm 2/24/14, and with the Hancock County officials on 2/26/14 at 9am. I know that this doesn't give anyone a lot of time to write a letter, but I was informed of these meetings this weekend. Any help with this will be appreciated. I would like to see this as a WISPA project and not just a DSLbyAir project. Every talent in making a wisp is encouraged to participate. Many hands make for small work. I believe that this is a good opportunity for the group to show the country that this IS what WISPA is all about. This will give us as a group more credibility moving forward. It is time to help these people where they have been forgotten over the last 8 years. The weather channel refers to the MS Gulf Coast as the land mass between New Orleans, LA and Mobile, AL. we are Landmassians. www.facebook.com/Landmassians Although the rubble of the hurricane has long been discarded over the years, some progress has been made to get the area back to a pre-Katrina state but it has a ways to go yet. As Rick Harnish describesWe are the IP TransitionWe are WISPA. This I believe will be a challenge to the rest of the country. I also think that D.C. should look at this and say, this is how it should be done by private enterprise. If anyone wants to help with this project, feel free to contact me off list. Joe Miller www.dslbyair.com 228-831-8881 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Letters of recommendation needed by the WISPA group
Thanks Rick From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Rick Harnish Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 2:41 PM To: memb...@wispa.org Cc: 'Principal WISPA Member List'; 'Wes Griffith'; 'Ubiquiti Users Group'; mississi...@wispa.org; 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISPA Members] Letters of recommendation needed by the WISPA group Joe, Good Luck on your project. Join us at WISPAmerica 2014 in Little Rock, March 21 http://www.wispamerica.net/ st-28th Respectfully, Rick Harnish Executive Director WISPA 260-307-4000 cell 866-317-2851 Option 2 WISPA Office Skype: rick.harnish. rharn...@wispa.org adm...@wispa.org (Trina and Rick) From: members-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:members-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Joe Miller Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2014 12:33 PM To: memb...@wispa.org Cc: 'Ubiquiti Users Group'; 'Principal WISPA Member List'; 'Wes Griffith'; 'WISPA General List'; mississi...@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA Members] Letters of recommendation needed by the WISPA group Ladies and gentlemen, Finally after over 8 long years since hurricane Katrina, we are really close to deploying wireless Internet service into the Waveland, Bay St Louis, and Perlington areas of Hancock Co MS. Ground 0 of Hurricane Katrina Aug 29, 2005. I have spent years working on this project since WISPA / Part15 / T1 International left the area. The current infrastructure of the phone and cable companies are still sub par due to the salt water intrusion of the flood waters that destroyed most of the county and with the small population left, they are not willing to spend the millions required to replace it. I feel that this is a great opportunity to let the powers that be in Hancock Co know that we, the WISPA group have not forgotten about these people. I believe that bringing this technology back into the area will help with the economical re-growth of Hancock County, MS. Although the FCC map does not show this as a high cost area for Broadband, I assure you that it is. I have a tech who lives in Waveland that has to use a MiFi card because she cannot get high speed Internet at her house. With this she is subject to overages from the carrier. This problem is wide spread throughout the area. I am today asking for letters of support from this group on your company letter head that I can take with me when I meet with the new Mayor of Bay St Louis tomorrow at 3pm 2/24/14, and with the Hancock County officials on 2/26/14 at 9am. I know that this doesn't give anyone a lot of time to write a letter, but I was informed of these meetings this weekend. Any help with this will be appreciated. I would like to see this as a WISPA project and not just a DSLbyAir project. Every talent in making a wisp is encouraged to participate. Many hands make for small work. I believe that this is a good opportunity for the group to show the country that this IS what WISPA is all about. This will give us as a group more credibility moving forward. It is time to help these people where they have been forgotten over the last 8 years. The weather channel refers to the MS Gulf Coast as the land mass between New Orleans, LA and Mobile, AL. we are Landmassians. www.facebook.com/Landmassians Although the rubble of the hurricane has long been discarded over the years, some progress has been made to get the area back to a pre-Katrina state but it has a ways to go yet. As Rick Harnish describesWe are the IP TransitionWe are WISPA. This I believe will be a challenge to the rest of the country. I also think that D.C. should look at this and say, this is how it should be done by private enterprise. If anyone wants to help with this project, feel free to contact me off list. Joe Miller www.dslbyair.com 228-831-8881 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] be on the look out for this
We had a network outage yesterday afternoon, and thanks to Mike Francis at JMF Solutions the problem went away. So, anyone who needs network help.I would strongly recommend Mike Francis at JMF Solutions. Kudos to Mike Francis. http://threatpost.com/us-cert-warns-of-ntp-amplification-attacks/103573 Joe Miller www.dslbyair.com 228-831-8881 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] FW: [SPAM] registration of dslbyair, your company's brand
I found this rather interesting last night… From: Cameron Wu [mailto:not...@da-sol.cn] Sent: Monday, December 02, 2013 1:22 AM To: joe.mil Subject: [SPAM] registration of dslbyair, your company's brand Importance: High (Letter to Head of Brand Business or CEO, thanks) Dear Sir or Madam, This is a formal email. We are the department of Asian Domain Registration Service in China. Here I have something to confirm with you. We formally received an application on December 2, 2013 that a company claimed Jeper BZ LTD were applying to register dslbyair as their Brand Name and some dslbyair Asian countries top-level domain names through our firm. Now we are handling this registration, and after our initial checking, we found the name were similar to your company's, so we need to check with you whether your company has authorized that company to register these names. If you authorized this, we would finish the registration at once. If you did not authorize, please let us know within 7 workdays, so that we could handle this issue better. After the deadline we will unconditionally finish the registration for Jeper BZ LTD. Looking forward to your prompt reply. Best Regards, Cameron Wu Tel:+86-551-6349 5334 Fax:+86-551-6349 5344 Address:HuiZhou Ave. 856, Hefei, Anhui, CN QQ截图20131028202046.png___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] DDOS attack
It looks like it is incomimg. From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Clay Stewart Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 10:23 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] DDOS attack Joe, if it is overwhelming your router, run the sniffer (may take a few minutes to start and then stop) and then you will have to disconnect (turn off WAN) in order to copy file out to computer. I have been through a bunch of these over last couple months, including a couple this last weekend. On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote: We'll need to know what kind of attack it is to help you. From outside directing at your IPs, DNS amplification, incoming SPAM, outgoing SPAM, etc.? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com _ From: Joe Miller joe.mil...@dslbyair.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 10:06:29 AM Subject: [WISPA] DDOS attack I’m getting slammed with emails from my provider regarding a possible DDOS attacks to several of my IP’s. I’m using Mikrotik and just trying to figure out how to stop this. Any help would be appreciated. Joe Miller www.dslbyair.com 228-831-8881 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless -- -- SCS Clay Stewart CEO, Tye River Farms, Inc., DBA Stewart Computer Services 434.263.6363 O 434.942.6510 C cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com “We Keep You Up and Running” Wireless Broadband Programming Network Services ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] DDOS attack
I'm getting slammed with emails from my provider regarding a possible DDOS attacks to several of my IP's. I'm using Mikrotik and just trying to figure out how to stop this. Any help would be appreciated. Joe Miller www.dslbyair.com 228-831-8881 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Wireless Orbit closing. Interested in new portal provider
I have come across this, www.gotwifi.com and it seems to be similar to wireless orbit. They are located somewhere near Birmingham, Alabama. I do not know a lot about this company. It looks like their parent company is www.gk2inc.com From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of John Scrivner Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 1:17 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Orbit closing. Interested in new portal provider Perhaps you could contact them to see about acquiring their business? Do you have contact information for them? John Scrivner On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 3:36 PM, ralph ralphli...@bsrg.org wrote: We've been using Wireless Orbit for our captive portal AAA and payments for years. Now they drop the bombshell that they will be closing in 2 weeks. Who is using something they can recommend? Requirements: Work with Mikrotik hotspot. Handles multiple locations, all different with different rules, settings, login pages, etc. Handles various payment plans and time limits. Supports Authorize.net Preferably has a flat cost, not a percentage like many of them do. Nice to haves: Can support auto login by MAC Allows users to associate browserless devices with their account. Aggregates simultaneous usage against the maximum set bandwidth (ie. If limit is 6 Mbps down and they have 4 devices running, each device can't use all 6 Mbps simultaneously.) MT User Manager is not an option- doesn't do multiple portals Not sure if the one Butch Evans sells will do it, I think the portals take custom code by the author to implement/change, but I am open to looking. Thanks Ralph ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] WISP Request
Bryan, I'm in the Biloxi / Gulfport MS area. Can I help you with anything? Joe Miller www.dslbyair.com 228-831-8881 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Bryan Brooks Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 10:01 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] WISP Request Hello- We are an almost new member with our membership currently in process. We are excited to be joining the group. Apologies for the newbie question but is this the right list for WISP information requests? I.E. Im looking for a WISP in Baton Rouge area. Regards, Bryan Bryan Brooks Pavlov Media 217-530-1946 bbro...@pavlovmedia.com ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Wispapalooza 2013 Presentations
I agree with Mike, As an older WISP, the general discussions are getting to be less of a value every year. Thanks Mike for pointing that out. Joe Miller www.dslbyair.com 228-831-8881 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 11:37 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wispapalooza 2013 Presentations I spoke with a few people and we were talking about small sessions that would maybe fit in those rooms at the end of the hall with more detailed conversation, whatever the topic. The more experienced WISP will find less and less value in the generic sessions, but maybe one that goes into detail on BGP, some facet of marketing or accounting, LTE, etc. What topics I don't know off hand. These types of sessions could go on for 2 or 3 hours. Perhaps more interactive. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com _ From: Nathan Stooke nstooke...@wisperisp.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 10:58:52 AM Subject: [WISPA] Wispapalooza 2013 Presentations Hello, If you were not able to make it to Wispapalooza this year you missed a great show. If you did thank you for making it a great show. We will be sending out a survey soon looking for your feedback. All feedback is welcome. Even though the show has been better and better each year we need to make sure we are catering to your needs. One bit of great feedback from Marlon was to have expert sessions. We would find experts on the topic and they would dive deep into it. Below is the schedule of the show with links to the presentations. I am still missing a few, but as soon as I get them I will send an update out. I am also still working on my sample contracts and evaluations for the mergers and acquisitions presentation. I have to scrub out the names of the companies we bought so it takes some time to get it done. As soon as I have that done I will send it out as well. Thanks https://custom.cvent.com/400DF70C75B149AEB88713E091C71C51/files/6e24ab85467c4a6a88fccc9460e503a3.pdf Sessions good for a new WISP. Saturday 12th https://custom.cvent.com/400DF70C75B149AEB88713E091C71C51/files/69ed429350d3475b87935bbc3b4c1151.pdf PON Fiber Ecosystem Overview https://custom.cvent.com/400DF70C75B149AEB88713E091C71C51/files/46231303d97d46a78d20f3c7ad7e9042.pdf Vault and Fiber Management https://custom.cvent.com/400DF70C75B149AEB88713E091C71C51/files/09eb1b55fc4b42bdb966d95e3e8b6f13.pdf Fiber Optic Cable Handling and Specifics https://custom.cvent.com/400DF70C75B149AEB88713E091C71C51/files/46231303d97d46a78d20f3c7ad7e9042.pdf What is Engineering https://custom.cvent.com/400DF70C75B149AEB88713E091C71C51/files/632e584942fc4d629cddb68937a5d8a0.xlsx Excel Worksheet https://custom.cvent.com/400DF70C75B149AEB88713E091C71C51/files/07f877916f7a496795fc25d79833fde5.pdf ONT, OLT and Software Management Sunday 13th https://custom.cvent.com/400DF70C75B149AEB88713E091C71C51/files/bd9fe2cfdead4d1cbdf27d627db990cf.pdf IPTV– Foundation and Generations Monday 14th No Presentations Tuesday 15th https://custom.cvent.com/400DF70C75B149AEB88713E091C71C51/files/8d6dd6e1246147feb9572190bde4d33f.pdf Vendor Introductions 2:30 https://custom.cvent.com/400DF70C75B149AEB88713E091C71C51/files/369b19576667470984c8c782bf0071dc.pdf Spectrum Hurtz so good https://custom.cvent.com/400DF70C75B149AEB88713E091C71C51/files/7d3ee03bebdb49478c642d0790abe14d.pdf Customer Service WISP 101 https://custom.cvent.com/400DF70C75B149AEB88713E091C71C51/files/d5e0cad1567a4e7eb6a80e37ae644d2d.pdf Key Spectrum https://custom.cvent.com/400DF70C75B149AEB88713E091C71C51/files/ab3c637248fe4b589a9daffb3b6c6e1b.pdf FCC Regulatory Checklist https://custom.cvent.com/400DF70C75B149AEB88713E091C71C51/files/2b266acd300744b08f430cdcdbdb9250.pdf Mapping and Billing https://custom.cvent.com/400DF70C75B149AEB88713E091C71C51/files/f65252ab578e4714b3e3b18db4d48ad2.pdf Expect A Profit 3:45 https://custom.cvent.com/400DF70C75B149AEB88713E091C71C51/files/8799ad6e7da1431bb1955ea360303ee8.pdf How to hire the right people for installer and support ( https://custom.cvent.com/400DF70C75B149AEB88713E091C71C51/files/77ee6102f3774f29acecbe8faf70497d.pdf Wisper Hiring Process) Fiber Economics in Small Towns As we grow – Learn how to protect yourself against legal issues Wednesday 16th 9:00 https://custom.cvent.com/400DF70C75B149AEB88713E091C71C51/files/d6050f643ce34132877a65d16fbf20b4.pdf Getting Address Space from ARIN https://custom.cvent.com/400DF70C75B149AEB88713E091C71C51/files/b133894e44e6418f844499f950a7a8dd.pdf New Business Opportunities: Small
Re: [WISPA] packaging suggestions
Joe, I do agree that usage based billing is the way to go. However, when our system was originally built 10 years ago, it was done so on the unlimited platform. The customers that we have I believe will respond in a negative way to the change. So how can we migrate a unlimited system to a UBB system without for a better word, piss off the existing customer base. I have thought about this for quite some time and the billing system I have in place can handle running both at the same time. What would be a good price point per gig of bandwidth? From looking at the current customer usage I think using $1.00 per gig would be a good starting point for discussion. Some customers will see a reduction in monthly cost while most will see an increase in their monthly service. I can see how we can re coup the cost of bandwidth a lot easier. I would like to come up with an email for my customers to ask them what they think in regards to having virtually as much bandwidth as they can use in exchange for billing for that usage. Basically, caped speed with flat rate vs uncapped speed with metered rate. Im looking at expanding into a new area and using the UBB platform will be a lot easier to start out with, but changing out the current customer base to UBB will be a bigger pill to swallow. I think that this is a good discussion for a session in Vegas. We have hundreds of companies that are members of WISPA, and I think with enough minds on this that we can come up with a good solution for everyone. Regards, Joe Miller www.dslbyair.com www.facebook.com/dslbyair 228-831-8881 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Joe Fiero Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2013 9:17 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] packaging suggestions I believe Fred to be correct. Packages based on speed are not the answer. We call our connection a pipe, so lets use a related analogy; You can have two homes with water service. One is an older home that has a ½ inch water main, the other is new construction and has a 1 inch service main. House number 1 has the original fixtures, so the toilet uses 6 gallons per flush, the shower flow is 7 gallons per minute and the clothes washer uses 40-55 gallons per load. House number two, being built under new codes that promote conservation has a low flow toilet that will use 1.6 2 gallons per flush, a low flow shower head that restricts flow to 2.5 gallons per minute and a new clothes washer that uses 20 gallons per load. With a family of 5 in each house, its easy to see that , despite the smaller service pipe, that house number 1 will have many times the water usage as house number 2. A smaller pipe did nothing to control the flow because the flow limit of the pipe was not reached. Those two pipes are exactly like a 3 meg and 5 meg Internet connection. Within reason, the size of the pipe will do little to limit heavy bandwidth usage. It only serves to spread it out, creating a longer period of time that it puts a demand on our networks. Like most, we saw our network performance begin to deteriorate as Netflix switched from a physical to a digital delivery system. The others since then have continued to slow our once speedy connections. Now we, as an industry, are faced with a continued rebuild to meet a voracious demand for bandwidth to deliver content that we never intended, or anticipated. Worse yet, we are being positioned to provide these improvements to support the business model of companies that barely acknowledge our existence. And they are getting smarter in their use of our pipes. There was a time when if you didnt have a good 4.5 meg flow, Netflix would not stream. They have gone to much more advanced encoding that will adjust to feeds of less than 2 megs, rendering a 3 meg rate limit useless in defending against them. The issue of Net Neutrality somehow became synonymous with no caps. It appears we are the only service that is viewed by consumers and governments that should be given away. Services like water, natural gas and electricity are each brought to a home and metered for actual usage, because it is the only fair way for those that use these services to pay their fair share. In most locals, the billing is specifically broken down into two parts. The first addresses the base cost of the connection to the property, and the second reflects the cost of the metered usage. How is Internet different? We are a service that delivers a commodity to be used and never recovered. The bits of data we move for our subscribers are no different than the kilowatt, gallon or therm moved by the others. Could you imagine if consumers demanded there be no metering on these services? We are being restricted by network limits from delivering the full pipe to subscribers. This limitation is a function of cost. Under our current structures we cannot
Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast
How about using a 5 gallon bucket and concrete a 5 ft pole into it. Lowes bucket = $5.00, bag of concrete = $3.73, and a 1 ½ EMT conduit = $12.00. All parts for less than $25.00 From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Joshua Zukerman Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 12:58 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast Hello list, I am setting up a PtP link between two gas stations for a client. I am going to be using two Nanostation M5 units going about 1/2mi diagonally across a highway. I'd like to mount them to a 5ft mast then to a non-penetrating roof mount, as the only place with clear line-of-sight is on the roof of both gas stations. Flat roof without much of a lip to mount an antenna to. All of my Google searches come up with much larger non-penetrating roof mounts, 3' or wider, which are designed for much larger and taller masts. Also very pricey, $150 or more each. Does anyone make a small non-penetrating roof mount, say 2ft square out of metal with an attachment to hold a 5ft mast or including a 5ft mast? Maybe a single cinder/cement block to weigh it down would be all that is needed. Won't ever need to go higher. Or do you have another suggestion for mounting? Thanks in advance, Josh ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] High gain antennas discovery tool
Since this company is no longer in existence, does anyone still have the discovery tool for their radios? I believe it is for the 8186 radios. Regards, Joe Miller www.dslbyair.com 228-831-8881 See us on facebook, www.facebook.com/dslbyair ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Books/Study Materials
I have both books: RouterOS by example, and Learn RouterOS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 10:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Books/Study Materials On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 15:46 -0500, Blair Davis wrote: Learn RouterOS. By Dennis out at Link Technologies A better book, IMO, is this one: http://www.amazon.com/RouterOS-by-Example-ebook/dp/B006U3MP7W for kindle and http://www.learnmikrotik.com/index.php/get-the-book.html for the paper. -- * Butch Evans* Professional Network Consultation * * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE!* * NOTE THE NEW PHONE NUMBER: 702-537-0979 * ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Books/Study Materials
The first book I have found works really well for someone who doesn't know Mikrotik at all. That is why I bought the book. Now that I have learned a lot from the first book, I stumbed across the Learn RouterOS at the MUM in New Orleans. I also talked with the author of the book Dennis Burgess. He and Jim Patient are both on this list. They are a good group of guys. Anyway, After having some knowledge with the first book, the second one got me farther into the weeds on how things work. Both books are good reads. Buy them both. You cannot go wrong. Joe Miller www.dslbyair.com www.facebook.com/dslbyair 228-831-8881 From: Josh Luthman [mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 11:17 PM To: WISPA General List; Joe Miller Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Books/Study Materials What do you think about the latter? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 29, 2012 12:13 AM, Joe Miller joe.mil...@dslbyair.com wrote: I have both books: RouterOS by example, and Learn RouterOS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Butch Evans Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 10:47 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mikrotik Books/Study Materials On Wed, 2012-11-28 at 15:46 -0500, Blair Davis wrote: Learn RouterOS. By Dennis out at Link Technologies A better book, IMO, is this one: http://www.amazon.com/RouterOS-by-Example-ebook/dp/B006U3MP7W for kindle and http://www.learnmikrotik.com/index.php/get-the-book.html for the paper. -- * Butch Evans* Professional Network Consultation * * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * * http://store.wispgear.net/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE!* * NOTE THE NEW PHONE NUMBER: 702-537-0979 * ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] American Tower Wisp Deal
Charles,
Can you post it on the thread here? I’ve been waiting well over a week for a
response from them.
Joe
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Spann, Chip
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 10:04 AM
To: WISPA General List
Cc: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] American Tower Wisp Deal
I have their entire US inventory KML just in case anyone needs a specific state
but doesn't get an immediate response from their rep
Charles Spann
(270) 779-0448
{Sent from my iPhone}
On Nov 9, 2012, at 10:37 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
I just heard back from my rep. Got the towers in Ohio in kml and Excel.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Nov 9, 2012 7:52 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
I think they've had that for about a year now.
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2012 7:41:09 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] American Tower Wisp Deal
AT boasts a 4WISP program. Not sure what sparked it.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Nov 8, 2012 8:38 PM, Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com wrote:
Did WISPA score a deal with them or something?
-mike
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On Nov 8, 2012, at 17:36, Joe Miller joemiller...@cableone.net wrote:
I called them last week…. Still waiting on a call back from them… L
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [ mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 7:31 PM
To: a...@afmug.com
Cc: WISPA General List ( wireless@wispa.org )
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] American Tower Wisp Deal
I have my name in. Waiting on info from my rep.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Nov 8, 2012 8:27 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
Anyone has the details on this?
Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
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Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] American Tower Wisp Deal
Rick,
I find it pretty odd that a company that was at the convention, which they paid
money to be there would return calls from possible new clients. I’ve been
waiting for a return call from a rep for about two weeks now. With the downturn
on radio repeaters that are going away due to the new technologies that are out
there, I would think that American Towers would consider us as a new “honey
hole” for their lost revenue. They cannot be that busy to not call people back
in a timely manner.
Just not getting the warn fuzzes here.
Joe Miller
www.dslbyair.com
228-831-8881
From: Rick Harnish [mailto:rharn...@wispa.org]
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 7:07 PM
To: joe.mil...@dslbyair.com; 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] [AFMUG] American Tower Wisp Deal
I added Beth Powers to this list and the members list today. We also scheduled
a Webinar on December 12th. It is found on the WISPA homepage calendar. I
doubt she will answer this until next week as she is running a marathon
tomorrow in Florida. Go Beth!
http://my.wispa.org/event/view/profile/id/17217 American Tower 4WISP Program
Webinar
12/12/2012 2:00 pm EST -
12/12/2012 3:00 pm EST
GoToWebinar
http://www.wispa.org/where-there-is-a-wisp-there-is-a-way Where there is a
Wisp, there is a way!
Respectfully,
Rick Harnish
Executive Director
WISPA
260-307-4000 cell
866-317-2851 Option 2 WISPA Office
Skype: rick.harnish.
rharn...@wispa.org
adm...@wispa.org (Trina and Rick)
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Joe Miller
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 7:46 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] American Tower Wisp Deal
Charles,
Can you post it on the thread here? I’ve been waiting well over a week for a
response from them.
Joe
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf
Of Spann, Chip
Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 10:04 AM
To: WISPA General List
Cc: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] American Tower Wisp Deal
I have their entire US inventory KML just in case anyone needs a specific state
but doesn't get an immediate response from their rep
Charles Spann
(270) 779-0448
{Sent from my iPhone}
On Nov 9, 2012, at 10:37 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote:
I just heard back from my rep. Got the towers in Ohio in kml and Excel.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Nov 9, 2012 7:52 AM, Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net wrote:
I think they've had that for about a year now.
-
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Intelligent Computing Solutions
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- Original Message -
From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Thursday, November 8, 2012 7:41:09 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] American Tower Wisp Deal
AT boasts a 4WISP program. Not sure what sparked it.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Nov 8, 2012 8:38 PM, Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com wrote:
Did WISPA score a deal with them or something?
-mike
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 8, 2012, at 17:36, Joe Miller joemiller...@cableone.net wrote:
I called them last week…. Still waiting on a call back from them… L
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [ mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org ] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 7:31 PM
To: a...@afmug.com
Cc: WISPA General List ( wireless@wispa.org )
Subject: Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] American Tower Wisp Deal
I have my name in. Waiting on info from my rep.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Nov 8, 2012 8:27 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote:
Anyone has the details on this?
Gino A. Villarini
g...@aeronetpr.com
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
787.273.4143
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I called them last week.. Still waiting on a call back from them.L From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2012 7:31 PM To: a...@afmug.com Cc: WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org) Subject: Re: [WISPA] [AFMUG] American Tower Wisp Deal I have my name in. Waiting on info from my rep. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Nov 8, 2012 8:27 PM, Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com wrote: Anyone has the details on this? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Wireless Orbit??
I use themit works pretty well Joe Miller DSLbyAir, LLC 228-831-8881 www.dslbyair.com - Original Message - From: Rick Kunze rku...@colusanet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 12:52 PM Subject: [WISPA] Wireless Orbit?? I ran across a link to a company called Wireless Orbit. www.wirelessorbit.com I like the service features and all, but the site looks like it's been rather idle for a few years. No action on the discussion groups, last posts a few years ago, very few posts, stuff like that. Not to mention the site itself seems only partially complete. Is anyone familiar with these guys? Thanks. Rk ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.
Can this script be made available for everyone? Joe Miller DSLbyAir, LLC 228-831-8881 www.dslbyair.com - Original Message - From: Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 8:05 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too. I've been saying for a while now that you have to have bandwidth caps and costs stated on your website somewhere, even if you are not charging for them at this point. You also have to have some method of giving feedback to them on their bandwidth consumption. Right now thanks to Josh for the heads up about Andrew Cox's script for a Mikrotik box, I've done that and so far so good. It will email the client when they reach percentages of usage with whatever you want the content of the email to say. What did your letter say ? -- Original Message -- From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 10:34:01 -0700 I think it's important for people to (after gaining an understanding of the impact they have on shared bandwidth) choose one of these... 1. pay more (either by overages or a different service plan that allows for more costs more), or 2. change their behavior to not use so much 3. leave I am implementing this now. The letter went out on Friday to most customers... On 5/2/2011 10:25 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Not saying what I'm doing is right...I don't have enough spectrum to continue to deliver the service...haven't figured anything else out yet. Regards, Chuck On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Why not collect more revenue instead of limiting them? I suppose if the customer wants to simply be throttled back instead of pay more, that's one thing, but I imagine it makes more sense to capitalize on something. Thinking along the lines of the on demand movies and stuff from cable companies, for example. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: 25GB per month. 128k/s after exceeding their limit. Regards, Chuck On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com mailto:lm7...@gmail.com wrote: Robert up/down/aggregate 103972 MB 469598 MB 573570 MB The guy downloaded 470 gigs in April. Paying $53.32 for 4 megabits down. I got no responses at all about monthly caps on my previous email, but if anyone could offer what bandwidth rates and monthly caps you are using I would greatly appreciate it. What is cost per megabit from your upstream? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too.
Thanks Josh...I think that this is what I'm looking for. Now to figure out how to get it loaded. Joe Miller DSLbyAir, LLC 228-831-8881 www.dslbyair.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman To: WISPA General List Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 12:25 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too. Joe - http://www.mikrotik-routeros.com/?p=24 Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Joe Miller joe.mil...@dslbyair.com wrote: Can this script be made available for everyone? Joe Miller DSLbyAir, LLC 228-831-8881 www.dslbyair.com - Original Message - From: Stuart Pierce spie...@avolve.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2011 8:05 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] My day is now dedicated to UBB research. You should too. I've been saying for a while now that you have to have bandwidth caps and costs stated on your website somewhere, even if you are not charging for them at this point. You also have to have some method of giving feedback to them on their bandwidth consumption. Right now thanks to Josh for the heads up about Andrew Cox's script for a Mikrotik box, I've done that and so far so good. It will email the client when they reach percentages of usage with whatever you want the content of the email to say. What did your letter say ? -- Original Message -- From: Mark Nash markl...@uwol.net Reply-To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 10:34:01 -0700 I think it's important for people to (after gaining an understanding of the impact they have on shared bandwidth) choose one of these... 1. pay more (either by overages or a different service plan that allows for more costs more), or 2. change their behavior to not use so much 3. leave I am implementing this now. The letter went out on Friday to most customers... On 5/2/2011 10:25 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: Not saying what I'm doing is right...I don't have enough spectrum to continue to deliver the service...haven't figured anything else out yet. Regards, Chuck On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Why not collect more revenue instead of limiting them? I suppose if the customer wants to simply be throttled back instead of pay more, that's one thing, but I imagine it makes more sense to capitalize on something. Thinking along the lines of the on demand movies and stuff from cable companies, for example. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Chuck Hogg ch...@shelbybb.com mailto:ch...@shelbybb.com wrote: 25GB per month. 128k/s after exceeding their limit. Regards, Chuck On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 1:02 PM, Matt lm7...@gmail.com mailto:lm7...@gmail.com wrote: Robert up/down/aggregate 103972 MB 469598 MB 573570 MB The guy downloaded 470 gigs in April. Paying $53.32 for 4 megabits down. I got no responses at all about monthly caps on my previous email, but if anyone could offer what bandwidth rates and monthly caps you are using I would greatly appreciate it. What is cost per megabit from your upstream? WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org mailto:wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless
Re: [WISPA] how to protect your kids
Didn't you guys know that raising kids is a blood sport? You give murders the benefit of the doubt, not your kids. Joe Miller DSLbyAir, LLC 228-831-8881 www.dslbyair.com - Original Message - From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to protect your kids Spoken like a man with no kids or in denial about what hellions he's got! lol Kids, especially teenagers, naturally trend toward pushing the limits. All kinds of limits. marlon - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 8:38 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] how to protect your kids Trust your kids and they will trust you back. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 “Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts.” --- Winston Churchill On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 11:32 AM, Paul Gerstenberger pa...@hrec.coopwrote: I have not done this (don't have kids), but there was some discussion at a workshop I was at recently. How about using an IDS/IPS on your home network. The brand that was discussed at the workshop was fortinet. Should let you intercept all those sorts of things. -Paul On Apr 13, 2010, at 10:49 PM, Marlon K. Schafer wrote: Hi All, Here's the scenario. My kids are expressly forbidden from having email addresses outside my domain. They are forbidden from having myspace, facebook etc. sites. If they want an email, fine by me, but it's one that *I* can check on. If they want a web site, fine by me, but make it a real one that *I* can delete things from. I'm trying to teach them to NOT do or say things on the internet that might bite them in the butt later. The days of people eventually forgetting the stupidity of youth or passion are long gone. Anyway, my 13 year old has a myspace account. He used a hotmail email address to get it. He had permission to use neither of them. I finally found out about the myspace account and went in to check out what he'd been saying. His trash and sent messages had both been erased between when I got the password out of him and when I had time to check on it. (I didn't know that his zune, a video player would ALSO allow him to get on the net and work on his page, talk to his friends etc. deep sigh) So, I contacted myspace, using his account, and asked for all of the deleted information. I explained that I was the father of a minor and that he had no permission to use their site and I wanted to know what was being hidden from me. I gave my full name AND phone number as well as my email address. They were very good about contacting me quickly about this issue. However they flatly refused to provide me with any information! They had NO proof of age etc. on the account. Nothing to verify that the child was over 18 etc. And *I* as the PARENT am prevented from accessing the account information! go get it from your teen is basically what I was told. WTF is this??? Absolutly amazing. So, what do the rest of you do to try to protect or control your kids these days? thanks marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Cheap Bird Deterrent Methods
Use old CDs. Using fishing line tie them close to the antennas and let then hang and move in the wind. Birds not like the reflection of light. Joe Miller DSLbyAir, LLC 228-831-8881 www.dslbyair.com - Original Message - From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2010 10:36 PM Subject: [WISPA] Cheap Bird Deterrent Methods Birds suck. Bird crap all over the new sectors, grids, everything. Tired of coming home smelling of bird crap. I prefer my usual stink. Is anyone using the plastic owls or any other weird thing to keep those flying crap machines off the AP's? i think of it everytime I climb a grain leg but never do anything about it. This is the year! Oh, and racoons. One AP is a 100 foot grain bin with steps up the side. Racoon poop (i only imagine that it what it is) on every other step. That I can deal with, I have kids afterall. But the birds just need to stop. Bob- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.814 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2829 - Release Date: 04/22/10 13:31:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] UBNT M Was: Ubiquiti made no points today
Holy crapwhere do I get one of those. That is one hell of a link you have there. Joe Miller DSLbyAir, LLC 228-831-8881 www.dslbyair.com - Original Message - From: Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] UBNT M Was: Ubiquiti made no points today Do you mean like this? Notice the rssi on the lower pic. These are two NS5Ms setup as a backhaul. I was assuming the rssi is being wrongly reported since the TX/RX is 162/162. If the rssi was for real wouldn't one chain be reporting a very low connection speed, right? I'm getting 162Mbps on both directions. This is one end of backhaul, this NS5M running station wds: rssi -51/-56 This is the other NS5M running ap wds: rssi -51/-94 On Apr 14, 2010, at 11:11 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: ...not using MIMO mode ... ? what antenna are you using ? Using the Rocket M5 without the Ubiquiti Antenna's is like driving a sports car with all flat tires :) There is a good documentation on the UBNT forum on how to verify the bad/defective units Testing them , have two units sync/link to each other, reduce the power, little bit at a time.. you will see a 6 to 9db difference on the two chains (Hpol/Vpol)... normal units will show either the same signal level or off by a couple of db's.. Faisal. On 4/14/2010 11:34 AM, RickG wrote: Upgraded to version 5.1.2 prior to installation. Still poor performance. Not using Mimo mode. Using as an AP on a repeater. Having no luck connecting to it with another M unit as CPE. Think its a bad radio(s)? On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Michael Bairdm...@tc3net.com wrote: Bad firmware and poor compatibility with legacy protocols. Make sure you upgrade them to the absolute latest beta available on the forums. Regards Michael Baird I've been using regular Bullets and NS2's which have been working great. So, I thought I'd give the M units a try. So far, nothing but poor signal, dropped packets,low throughput. Replacing them with regular units fix the issue. What gives? On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 8:01 PM, Forbes Mercy forbes.me...@wabroadband.comwrote: After falling in like with the Rocket M Nano's the Rocket M Bullets and the Mimos I have to say I'm firmly unimpressed with the integrated antenna series. We bought a pack of 10 of the 27dbi grids, not one of them would associate to our Mimos yet a bullet and in some cases, where distance wasn't a factor, the Nano Rockets did so without a problem. We just took delivery on the Nano Dish units, we wanted them to do some short range backhauls. Today was our first, replacing a 10MB Motorola backhaul at 5.2 miles, we set up the new dishes up in the office WDS on, WPA on they connected at -50 (as they should in the office), connection firm all night. Installed them today, the AP working well we headed up the mountain to install the other one. It would not see or connect to the other Nano Dish no matter whether we used the lower powered 5.2 or the more generous 5.7/8 frequency range. Gradually turning off the WDS, then the WPA, then making it 20 MHZ, finally we gave up and the unnecessary beating to my bucket truck that had to climb that mountain left me in a pretty foul mood over the new gear. I'm about to RMA all of it and go back to just bullets and Rockets. Forbes WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Credit Card Processors
I would be interested in IP Pay. I currently use Authorize.net because of Wireless Orbit. Will IP Pay work with Wireless Orbit? Charles, Can you hit me off list about this? - Original Message From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 8:27:35 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Credit Card Processors I think IP Pay queries the issuer to determine what the proper expiration date and updates it. Maybe I'll get Charles over here to say what his service does. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 12:14 AM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Credit Card Processors But the issue is that they may consider using an expired card as fraudulent. Remember, each credit card transaction has a bunch or legal rules and regulations that come along with it. You know how it goes, do it right or it may bite! On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 11:57 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote: And when the chargeback comes through, you fax them the copy of your internet service contract and their usage summary showing they owed and paid for the bill as agreed. Travis Microserv RickG wrote: My banker buddy said its between you and your credit card processor but charging to an expired card could leave you open to a charge back. I guess the safest thing to do is ask your processor. I did find the attached on Visa's website. -RickG On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Very confident that IPPay will accept past expiration dates as long none of the other information was changed. I read something about this recently but I can't seem to locate it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 9:29 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: I'm speaking from experience :) Most credit cards expire in two years. So, you take their expiration date and add two years - wella, it works again! I dont know about other processors but authorize.net will not accept an expired date. -RickG On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 4:13 PM, Josh Luthmanj...@imaginenetworksllc.com j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: I don't see how you can guess it. You can have one card number not change but renew it's expiration date. Also keep in mind you can continue charging without updating information for companies just like us. On 12/13/09, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: Quickbooks is great! Question though: I was told by my bank not to guess their new expiration date and that you need to get the it directly from the customer or you are subject to dispute. True of false? -RickG On Sat, Dec 12, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Tom DeReggiwirelessn...@rapiddsl.net wirelessn...@rapiddsl.netwrote: IPPay is really cool. Expecially automatic features like figuring out the right CC exp date after it expires. We'd like to use it, if we could. But we dont use them because you really need a seperate billing system to integrate with them. We use Quickbooks for our billing, and from what I understood IPPay does not integrate with Quickbook's billing. PS. I know, why are we using Quickbooks for billing still? Resistent to change when something works, its easy, and no compelling reason to change. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Travis Johnson t...@ida.net t...@ida.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2009 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Credit Card Processors IPPay. Only saved us $500 per month and we get our money in 1-2 business days (instead of 4-5 with authorize). :) :) Travis Microserv Robert West wrote: Looking at credit card processors again. Been nickled and dimed to death with 2 others. Who are you happy with and do they work withauthorize.net? Bob- Robert West Just Micro Digital Services Inc. 740-335-7020 WISPA Wants You! Join today!http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Credit Card Processors
Charles, Matt from your company called me and will send me info on IP Pay. It looks like I may go this direction as long as wireless orbit works with it. Joe - Original Message From: Charles Wu c...@cticonnect.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Mon, December 14, 2009 10:23:09 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Credit Card Processors Hi Rick, In the context of being an e-commerce merchant (e.g., someone who sells books, toys, things online), everything that you bank and Authorize.Net is telling you is true -- what's happening is that you are being lumped into the category of card-not-present credit card processing -- which is, not surprisingly, higher risk than card-present or swiped credit card processing. As a result, there's an additional set of rules and regulations (and higher pricing) that applies to you Now, I think everyone here would agree that the business of being a WISP/ISP/Telco is fundamentally different than that of an e-commerce shop -- specifically, our business is all about recurring revenue Let's compare Service Provider that bills 1,000 customers $50 / month vs. E-commerce shop that sells 1,000 customers something for $50 / month Now, if you were to compare risk between the two -- as opposed to 100% card-not-present risk held by the E-commerce shop, the way to look at it from the service provider is that there's probably only 50 risky transactions (e.g., the new adds for the month), and the other 950 transactions were people that were billed the previous month (and probably have been customers for quite some time already). Now, for a facilities-based provider (as opposed to a web-hosting or dial-up company), the risk is further mitigated by evidence of a truck roll (which, if you think about it, makes for basically a card-present transaction) Taking these factors into account, Visa/Mastercard have created special programs for facilities-based providers For example: Mastercard - http://www.mastercard.com/us/merchant/solutions/incentive_program.html Billing Lost/Stolen/Expired Cards: Visa: http://www.visadps.com/services/visa_account_updater.html MasterCard: http://www.mastercard.com/us/wce/PDF/Billing%20Updater%20Brochure_10%2006.pdf What other benefits are available from being in these programs? 1. Specialized telco industry rates for consumer billing (depending on card type / mix -- it comes out to generally 10-25% cheaper than e-commerce / card-not-present transactions) 2. The ability to legally bill through expired cards for recurring payment purposes 3. The ability to update card records to account for lost, stolen, reissued and expired cards The up-front work (business process + software systems integration) to getting qualified and working within these programs is pretty extensive, and as a result, the 2,000 or so small-to-medium sized service providers have too many other things on their plate to deal with this (trust me, big guys like Comcast and Verizon take full advantage of these programs). What IP Pay has done is to invest ~2 years of RD and systems to the tune of ~$750k to build out systems so that we can help guys like yourself take advantage of preferential treatment normally reserved for the big guys. -Charles -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 12:11 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Credit Card Processors Because once expired, Visa or Mastercard no longer must honor it. If a chargeback happens, they may consider using an expired card as fraudulent and deny your claim. This is just my more cautious nature coming out here. Maybe your processor says no big deal. For me, Authorize.net said dont do it. -RickG On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 10:22 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: I've seen that before, but that wasn't what I was looking for. Either way, a charge back can happen no matter what - why would the expiration be relevant? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 10:08 PM, RickG rgunder...@gmail.com wrote: My banker buddy said its between you and your credit card processor but charging to an expired card could leave you open to a charge back. I guess the safest thing to do is ask your processor. I did find the attached on Visa's website. -RickG On Sun, Dec 13, 2009 at 9:42 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.comwrote: Very confident that IPPay will accept past expiration dates as long none of the other information was changed. I read something about this recently but I can't seem to locate it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing
Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network.
Butch, You think that it could run on a PC with 2 NICS without an issue? That way the CPU usage can be a lot lower. - Original Message From: Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sat, November 21, 2009 8:01:05 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network. On Wed, 2009-11-11 at 13:52 -0800, Gary Garrett wrote: Yes, this is the answer I am looking for. Let me know when this is available / stable, It looks (so far) as though the system is performing VERY WELL. Of the ones that I have tested with, I have had very positive results. One thing to beware of is that this is not something that will run well on a low end routerboard. I have run it on RB600 with about 600 users behind it, moving about 4k pps (aggregate) and it puts the cpu at 80-100%, although it is still processing packets well, that is a pretty hard limit for that platform. I just installed one today on an RB1000 with over 1500 users moving about 8k pps and it seems to run pretty well (cpu hits as much as about 80%). The 1500 user system is VERY congested, but the initial impression of the system looks good. I need to evaluate more data on these 2, which are the most critical tests so far, but both look good in my initial evaluation and those of the network administrators. and you will soon become a rich man. I'd like that VERY MUCH, but won't be holding my breath. :-) -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Small Managed Switches
Has anyone tried the Netgear GS108T? It is a fully managed switch that costs about $100.00 to $130.00. I buy mine from Staples. I'v had two of them in the field for over two years with no issues. - Original Message From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net To: n...@brevardwireless.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 6:42:00 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small Managed Switches There are several classes of VLAN switches. I'll use SMC as an example... 1) They have the higher end models that are Full VLAN support that are very intuitive and fully flexible. For example, they'll allow you to label each port in web interface. They fully refer to each ports specifying their Egress and Ingress VLAn support, etc. They allow every thing to be done. But because they are intuitive, in the web interface itself, its easy to configure them without accidentally misconfiguring another clients. They make great switches that will act as both Trunk backbone switches and end location switches. 2) then they have lower end model. They let one do almost everything with VLAN. But they are way less intuitive. And they dont work as well for dual purpose, and tend to work better as a backbone or end location switch. They lack abilty to label ports.They have confusing terminology to enable or disable like VLAN Aware that may not be specific on what VLAN functionality is enabled by making it aware. It usually takes a quick read of the manual before making a config, because the logic is not straight forward. Many Web Switches are like this. SMC and Intellinet have affordable 8 port VLAN switches that are functional, but with the firmware that is equivellent to low end VLAN switches as described in #2 above. But I beleive both have text, SNMP, serial, and Web interfaces, which give them a step up over other basic web switch products. Both models sell under $200, and have atleast 2 Gigabit ports, possibly SPF ports. I just wish someone made a 8 port VLAN switch for the low dollar cost, that had the HIGH END INTUITIVE VLAN firmware, that allowed each port to be labled in software. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Nick Olsen n...@brevardwireless.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Small Managed Switches Well, there is the Procurve 1800-8G that is 8 ports gigabit, Management is a little light, but it will do the simple stuff. like vlans and such. They are fanless and we have them on towers, bullet proof all day long. Nick Olsen Brevard Wireless (321) 205-1100 x106 From: Marco Coelho coelh...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 2:53 PM To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Small Managed Switches I'm looking for suggestions for small (8+ ports) Managed switches. They would be installed in NEMA 4 un-cooled enclosures in the Texas heat. -- Marco C. Coelho Argon Technologies Inc. POB 875 Greenville, TX 75403-0875 903-455-5036 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network.
Make it a plug-n-play for us non Mikrotik people and I would say sold. - Original Message From: Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thu, November 12, 2009 11:39:20 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network. On Thu, 2009-11-12 at 10:54 -0500, sa...@michianawireless.com wrote: I looked at http://www.mikrotik.com/download/l7-protos.rsc but didnt find anything existing for L7 and netflix. Does anyone have one they are using? I don't think one exists. It's one reason I'm working on the smart QOS system. It will react even when we encounter an unknown protocol/service. I've been packet sniffing all morning looking for various streaming services. Currently, I can accurately detect youtube (and all other similar services), Hulu (a very easy one) and a few others. I did a test just a few minutes ago with my current implementation. Here's how it worked: 1. Set my bandwidth to 1M download speed (total_down_speed) 2. Guarantee speed of 768k for primary or normal traffic queues 3. Guarantee speed of 256k for secondary or bad traffic queues 4. Priority queues within each of those (priority1-priority8) 5. mangle rules do the following: a. Set http to prio1_normal b. watch http traffic for large downloads or streams c. Set downloads 10M20M to prio4_normal after the first 10M has downloaded (streams at the same point) d. Set downloads 20M to prio1_bad In my test, I started 2 downloads and one stream (netflix, actually). These 3 shared about equally 1M of bandwidth, with each getting around 300k (give or take a little). After they reached the 10M download, they were moved to pro4_normal. When that happened, I started another download, which took nearly all of the 1M available bandwidth (because it was priority1). The video stream was choking a little, but was mostly working, the other downloads were the same (stop/go). Once the new download reached it's 10M plateau, it was sharing the 1M pipe with the other 3 downloads and all got about 256k (the video was better). When the video and other 2 downloads reached the 20M plateau, they were moved (automatically) to the bad queues at priority1. What that did to my downloads was this: 1. The Prio1 queues in normal would allow me to surf like there was nothing else going on. 2. My last download was getting 768k (the guarantee for normal queues) 3. My bad queues (the stream and the first 2 downloads) were sharing the remaining 256k (guarantee for bad queues). I was not specifically identifying netflix in my application, but it was being caught by the large download queues. I am still working out a best practices approach to managing this traffic, but thought I would share what I have so far. What do you think of my results so far? -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network.
I'm still having a hell of a time figuring out that one. Is there anything on the market that will block certain traffic by looking at the Headers of the data on Netflix? Or is this just wishful thinking on my part? - Original Message From: Sales sa...@michianawireless.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 1:28:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network. So how are you to distinguish regular port 80 traffic from netflix ? John Buwa Michiana Wireless,Inc 574-233-7170 Sent from my iPhone On Nov 9, 2009, at 1:32 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Just confirmed with torch. Hulu on PC is 1935/tcp Netflix on PC is 80/tcp (remember it uses Silverlight - not flash) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 07:16 -0800, Joe Miller wrote: Has anyone experienced this yet? From doing research I've found that even Blue-Ray machines have Netflix software on them. I've been getting some calls lately regarding slow Internet at certain times of the day. I've researched what ports Netflix and Hula are using but cannot pin down what ports are being used. If Netflix is using Mpeg 4, then that is using close to 1.5 meg of continued streaming. Not sure about NetFlix, but Hulu uses TCP and/or UDP 1935, which is Macromedia Flash port. They use primarily TCP. How does one combat this type of traffic? I have a 20 meg metro E curcuit in place but if I have 1 or 2 customers on a single AP doing streaming, then the other 20 or so customers are calling and complaining about the slow Internet speeds. Build a QOS imnplementation that allows Hulu to work, but lessor priority than other traffic. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network.
Is there a way to have MikroTik do nothing else but this? Butch, can you answer this please? - Original Message From: Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 1:41:33 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network. This works quite well, we use it on lots of hotspot networks, we can identify streams by their amount of data transferred. Once we go over 10-20 meg, we assume that's not that bursty traffic, so we lob it into a queue with other users. THis prevents a large download from consuming massive amounts of resources. --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training Author of Learn RouterOS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 1:38 PM To: Joe Miller; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network. We are currently testing a Mikrotik based QOS setting to handle this, it basically examines port 80 traffic and divides in bursty short traffic (web browsing) and long continued traffic ( file transfers, streaming, p2p) Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Joe Miller Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 3:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network. I'm still having a hell of a time figuring out that one. Is there anything on the market that will block certain traffic by looking at the Headers of the data on Netflix? Or is this just wishful thinking on my part? - Original Message From: Sales sa...@michianawireless.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 1:28:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network. So how are you to distinguish regular port 80 traffic from netflix ? John Buwa Michiana Wireless,Inc 574-233-7170 Sent from my iPhone On Nov 9, 2009, at 1:32 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Just confirmed with torch. Hulu on PC is 1935/tcp Netflix on PC is 80/tcp (remember it uses Silverlight - not flash) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 07:16 -0800, Joe Miller wrote: Has anyone experienced this yet? From doing research I've found that even Blue-Ray machines have Netflix software on them. I've been getting some calls lately regarding slow Internet at certain times of the day. I've researched what ports Netflix and Hula are using but cannot pin down what ports are being used. If Netflix is using Mpeg 4, then that is using close to 1.5 meg of continued streaming. Not sure about NetFlix, but Hulu uses TCP and/or UDP 1935, which is Macromedia Flash port. They use primarily TCP. How does one combat this type of traffic? I have a 20 meg metro E curcuit in place but if I have 1 or 2 customers on a single AP doing streaming, then the other 20 or so customers are calling and complaining about the slow Internet speeds. Build a QOS imnplementation that allows Hulu to work, but lessor priority than other traffic. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ --- --- --- --- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org
Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network.
Dennis, Can the MikroTik router be used for just this purpose? I already have routers in place so I do not need the router function on these. - Original Message From: Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 2:24:27 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network. We are just creating a mangle the identifies large downloads, connections over so much data. --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training Author of Learn RouterOS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 2:22 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network. The problem I see is that general web traffic = Netflix traffic (on a network level, it's all 80/tcp and HTTP). You can very easily create burst queues for 80/tcp. If you can some how mangle the traffic to/from Netflix you can easily create a queue for that too. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.netwrote: sure, just match the data, you can either apply a TOS bit or just queue it up right in that single unit .. The data has to flow though it though. --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training Author of Learn RouterOS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Joe Miller Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 2:00 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network. Is there a way to have MikroTik do nothing else but this? Butch, can you answer this please? - Original Message From: Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 1:41:33 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network. This works quite well, we use it on lots of hotspot networks, we can identify streams by their amount of data transferred. Once we go over 10-20 meg, we assume that's not that bursty traffic, so we lob it into a queue with other users. THis prevents a large download from consuming massive amounts of resources. --- Dennis Burgess, CCNA, A+, Mikrotik Certified Trainer WISPA Board Member - wispa.org Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik WISP Support Services WISPA Vendor Member Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training Author of Learn RouterOS -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Gino Villarini Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 1:38 PM To: Joe Miller; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network. We are currently testing a Mikrotik based QOS setting to handle this, it basically examines port 80 traffic and divides in bursty short traffic (web browsing) and long continued traffic ( file transfers, streaming, p2p) Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. 787.273.4143 -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Joe Miller Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2009 3:33 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network. I'm still having a hell of a time figuring out that one. Is there anything on the market that will block certain traffic by looking at the Headers of the data on Netflix? Or is this just wishful thinking on my part? - Original Message From: Sales sa...@michianawireless.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wed, November 11, 2009 1:28:03 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network. So how are you to distinguish regular port 80 traffic from netflix ? John Buwa Michiana Wireless,Inc 574-233-7170 Sent from my iPhone On Nov 9, 2009, at 1:32 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Just confirmed with torch. Hulu on PC is 1935/tcp Netflix on PC is 80/tcp (remember it uses Silverlight
[WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network.
Has anyone experienced this yet? From doing research I've found that even Blue-Ray machines have Netflix software on them. I've been getting some calls lately regarding slow Internet at certain times of the day. I've researched what ports Netflix and Hula are using but cannot pin down what ports are being used. If Netflix is using Mpeg 4, then that is using close to 1.5 meg of continued streaming. How does one combat this type of traffic? I have a 20 meg metro E curcuit in place but if I have 1 or 2 customers on a single AP doing streaming, then the other 20 or so customers are calling and complaining about the slow Internet speeds. Regards, WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] customers dogs chewing on CAT5
Charge them accordingly. Let the customer feel the pain of having the cable replaced. Maybe that will motivate the dog owner to take care of the problem himself. - Original Message From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 9:13:58 AM Subject: [WISPA] customers dogs chewing on CAT5 I've had several customers that have had their dog chew on the Cat5 going from the house to the TV tower and some of them multiple times. Anyone have ideas on how to keep the dog from chewing on the wire? I've got one customer on their 3rd Cat5 run and going out right now to replace a different customer that will be his 3rd one as well. I'm about ready to shoot the stinking dog.. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network.
Or just block the port, lol. - Original Message From: Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 12:26:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network. On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 07:16 -0800, Joe Miller wrote: Has anyone experienced this yet? From doing research I've found that even Blue-Ray machines have Netflix software on them. I've been getting some calls lately regarding slow Internet at certain times of the day. I've researched what ports Netflix and Hula are using but cannot pin down what ports are being used. If Netflix is using Mpeg 4, then that is using close to 1.5 meg of continued streaming. Not sure about NetFlix, but Hulu uses TCP and/or UDP 1935, which is Macromedia Flash port. They use primarily TCP. How does one combat this type of traffic? I have a 20 meg metro E curcuit in place but if I have 1 or 2 customers on a single AP doing streaming, then the other 20 or so customers are calling and complaining about the slow Internet speeds. Build a QOS imnplementation that allows Hulu to work, but lessor priority than other traffic. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network.
thanks on the Hulu ports.now to figure out how to limit Netflix - Original Message From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 12:32:42 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network. Just confirmed with torch. Hulu on PC is 1935/tcp Netflix on PC is 80/tcp (remember it uses Silverlight - not flash) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 1:26 PM, Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com wrote: On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 07:16 -0800, Joe Miller wrote: Has anyone experienced this yet? From doing research I've found that even Blue-Ray machines have Netflix software on them. I've been getting some calls lately regarding slow Internet at certain times of the day. I've researched what ports Netflix and Hula are using but cannot pin down what ports are being used. If Netflix is using Mpeg 4, then that is using close to 1.5 meg of continued streaming. Not sure about NetFlix, but Hulu uses TCP and/or UDP 1935, which is Macromedia Flash port. They use primarily TCP. How does one combat this type of traffic? I have a 20 meg metro E curcuit in place but if I have 1 or 2 customers on a single AP doing streaming, then the other 20 or so customers are calling and complaining about the slow Internet speeds. Build a QOS imnplementation that allows Hulu to work, but lessor priority than other traffic. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network.
I did that. I put that port on a low que so it doesn't create too much of a problem - Original Message From: Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 1:08:12 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network. Why block the port, just limit the ip/port to say 35 to 50 pps. He still gets Hulu, and no real impact on your system. Win win -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 10:57 AM To: Joe Miller; WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network. You know that would actually work. If people can get to Hulu.com and the videos have problems they would think Hulu is having a problem - not you. After a few days of it working at the office and not working at home, though, they may get curious. I also believe that Hulu's flash player would come up with a complaint saying it couldn't connect. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 The secret to creativity is knowing how to hide your sources. --- Albert Einstein On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Joe Miller joemiller...@yahoo.com wrote: Or just block the port, lol. - Original Message From: Butch Evans but...@butchevans.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Mon, November 9, 2009 12:26:35 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Netflix, Hula starting to creat issues with network. On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 07:16 -0800, Joe Miller wrote: Has anyone experienced this yet? From doing research I've found that even Blue-Ray machines have Netflix software on them. I've been getting some calls lately regarding slow Internet at certain times of the day. I've researched what ports Netflix and Hula are using but cannot pin down what ports are being used. If Netflix is using Mpeg 4, then that is using close to 1.5 meg of continued streaming. Not sure about NetFlix, but Hulu uses TCP and/or UDP 1935, which is Macromedia Flash port. They use primarily TCP. How does one combat this type of traffic? I have a 20 meg metro E curcuit in place but if I have 1 or 2 customers on a single AP doing streaming, then the other 20 or so customers are calling and complaining about the slow Internet speeds. Build a QOS imnplementation that allows Hulu to work, but lessor priority than other traffic. -- * Butch Evans * Professional Network Consultation* * http://www.butchevans.com/ * Network Engineering * * http://www.wispa.org/ * Wired or Wireless Networks * * http://blog.butchevans.com/ * ImageStream, Mikrotik and MORE! * WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Metered Billing
Eric, What type of appliance are you using to meter this usage? I have the same problem here. Joe - Original Message From: Eric Rogers ecrog...@precisionds.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sat, November 7, 2009 6:56:03 AM Subject: [WISPA] Metered Billing We are on the verge of changing to a metered or tiered billing structure with Caps that once they exceed the cap; it doesn't shut off, but they get charged the overage. Netflix is getting out of control and I don't want to punish the customers that only use it occasionally. I think they are very innovative solutions and don't want to hinder new applications. I just want people that download 160 GB in a month, when the average is nearly 10 GB a month, to pay their share for expanding the network. Who has dabbled in the metered/tiered services and what were your customers responses? What are your tiers? Have attitudes changed toward your company as being greedy? We already have everything in place to do it, just need to send out the letter saying we are doing it and why. Eric Rogers Precision Data Solutions, LLC (317) 831-3000 x200 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.8 Omni
I have some slightly used 15dB omni's if you need any. - Original Message From: Cameron Kilton c...@midcoast.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thu, October 29, 2009 7:55:44 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.8 Omni MTI -Cameron -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Michael Baird Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 11:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] 5.8 Omni I need a 5.8 Omni to feed some smaller sites via WDS, looking for some recommendations was hoping for 16 db but can't seem to find any. Regards Michael Baird WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.8 Omni
I also have a box load of maxrad 9dB omni antennas if anyone needs them. - Original Message From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thu, October 29, 2009 8:48:50 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.8 Omni Yeah. I don't use any omni's over 8 or 9 dB. Well, I guess I have one 10 out there, but I keep taking it out The ONLY time I've suggested people use higher gain ones is when they are on a rooftop that's the same height as everyone else or down in a valley with customers up the sides. marlon - Original Message - From: Tom DeReggi wirelessn...@rapiddsl.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 12:08 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.8 Omni I'd be cautious about those Pancake shaped OMNI patterns at 16 DB. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Michael Baird m...@tc3net.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 11:27 PM Subject: [WISPA] 5.8 Omni I need a 5.8 Omni to feed some smaller sites via WDS, looking for some recommendations was hoping for 16 db but can't seem to find any. Regards Michael Baird WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.560 / Virus Database: 270.12.26/2116 - Release Date: 5/15/2009 6:16 AM WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [Btop-bip] BIP / BTOP Applications are online
Looks like Acorn is trying to get in on this as well. From: CBB - Jay Fuller wispagra...@cyberbroadband.net To: li...@stlbroadband.com; WISPA Members BTOP-BIP List btop-...@wispa.org; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: WISPA Members BTOP-BIP List btop-...@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 8:51:33 AM Subject: Re: [Btop-bip] [WISPA] BIP / BTOP Applications are online Do we have time to read all this? :) I agree, some seem far fetched. - Original Message - From: St. Louis Broadband To: 'WISPA General List' Cc: 'WISPA Members BTOP-BIP List' Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 1:21 PM Subject: Re: [Btop-bip] [WISPA] BIP / BTOP Applications are online They will show most of it when they post the Executive Summaries...maybe, at least ours does, Victoria -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of jp Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 12:35 PM To: WISPA General List Cc: WISPA Members BTOP-BIP List Subject: Re: [WISPA] BIP / BTOP Applications are online I'd like to see the actual content of the applications Some of them seem quite far fetched. Others seem like plans I'd like to know more about. On Wed, Sep 09, 2009 at 05:34:18PM -0400, Kevin Suitor wrote: http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/applications/search.cfm [cid:image001.jpg@01CA3173.C2138660] Redline Communications Inc. Kevin Suitor Vice President, Corporate Marketing 302 Town Centre Blvd. Markham, ON L3R 0E8 CANADA o: +1 905.948.2299 f: +1 647.723.0451 m: +1 416.508.1252 Skype: ksuitor e-mail: ksui...@redlinecommunications.commailto:ksui...@redlinecommunications.com Web: www.redlinecommunications.comhttp://www.redlinecommunications.com/ -- /* Jason Philbrook | Midcoast Internet Solutions - Wireless and DSL KB1IOJ | Broadband Internet Access, Dialup, and Hosting http://f64.nu/ | for Midcoast Maine http://www.midcoast.com/ */ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ ___ Btop-bip mailing list btop-...@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/btop-bip WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Alvarion equipment needed
I solved my problem with the 5.3Ghz PTMP - Original Message From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:14:43 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion equipment needed Wait what application are we even trying to solve... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:02 AM, dco...@infowest.com wrote: Isn't there a webinar that will help this guy? ;) -Original Message- From: 3-dB Networks wi...@3-db.net Subj: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion equipment needed Date: Thu Aug 27, 2009 8:42 am Size: 2K To: 'Joe Miller' joe.mil...@dslbyair.com; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Canopy :-D Daniel White 3-dB Networks http://www.3dbnetworks.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Joe Miller Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 1:45 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion equipment needed No I haven't...Any other suggestions on another type of radio that will do 5.3 Ghz PTMP? - Original Message From: Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 2:39:37 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion equipment needed 2009/8/26 Joe Miller joe.mil...@dslbyair.com: Does anyone know of an Alvarion distributor in the states that carries PTMP radios? Mainly looking for the EZ line. Have you read the release notes for the EZ products? Sounds pretty half baked at this time. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ --- message truncated --- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Alvarion equipment needed
Does anyone know of an Alvarion distributor in the states that carries PTMP radios? Mainly looking for the EZ line. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Alvarion equipment needed
No I haven't...Any other suggestions on another type of radio that will do 5.3 Ghz PTMP? - Original Message From: Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 2:39:37 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Alvarion equipment needed 2009/8/26 Joe Miller joe.mil...@dslbyair.com: Does anyone know of an Alvarion distributor in the states that carries PTMP radios? Mainly looking for the EZ line. Have you read the release notes for the EZ products? Sounds pretty half baked at this time. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Link Loss
Cliff, What type of radio are you using? I have a 19.2 link over here in Gulfport and it has been rock solid. I'm using 3ft dishes too. Joe Miller DSLbyAir, LLC 228-238-2563 www.dslbyair.com - Original Message From: Cliff Leboeuf cliff.lebo...@cssla.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 8:21:16 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Link Loss One is about 18 miles, the other is just over 20 miles. - Cliff -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 12:31 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Link Loss We're still guessing here. He's never told us how LONG the links are. If they are 10 miles apart it's probably not ducting. marlon - Original Message - From: Mike m...@aweiowa.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, August 09, 2009 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Link Loss The way I understand it, and have worked to my advantage as a ham, is the layers stratify at fairly definite borders in tropospheric ducting. The layer works more like a duct with a mirror like top. The signals can be repeatedly reflected back down into the duct. I did some experiments during one tropo opening using some long circular polarized yagis at both vhf and uhf. The signals appear to become more randomly polarized as the distance in the duct increases. The signals coming from areas around the Gulf coming into SW Fl during the events had components of both vertical and horizontal polarization. Refraction is the deflection of a wave on passing obliquely from one transparent medium into a second medium in which its speed is different. So, both upon entering and leaving the duct the signal can also be subject to refraction? Not sure. Mike At 10:52 AM 8/9/2009, you wrote: That is correct. So my next question: Can refraction be caused by thermal ducting? -RickG WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.44/2283 - Release Date: 08/09/09 08:08:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Link Loss
Ed, Are these PTP or PTMP links? I have a couple of my PTP links do this also. Mainly around the Mobile county AL area. It appears that the noise floor increases at night. The two common things between our areas is that it is a coastal area and close to the oil and gas fields. Joe Miller DSLbyAir, LLC 228-238-2563 - Original Message From: Ed Spoon - Computer Sales Services, Inc. ed.sp...@cssla.com To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 10:33:37 PM Subject: [WISPA] 5.8GHz Link Loss So, what causes this crazy loss on all of my 'longer' 5.8 links after dark/overnight? Temp drop? Contraction? Condensation? Moonbeams? More importantly, is there anything I can do about it? Anyone else dealing with it? Links are N-S, E-W and NE-SW, different brands radios, but all in the ISM 5.8 spectrum. Can start as early as 8pm but usually after midnight. Goes until the suns been up 1 to 3 hours. Doesn't happen every day, but seems to be predominant in the summer when we get over 90 degrees with 90% humidity and then the afternoon/evening rain from the buildup. I see it happening to short links also, just doesn't get bad enough to drop. Ideas?[image: 2009-08-07_221007.jpg] Ed Spoon triparish.net / cajun.net Computer Sales Services, Inc. Ph: 985-879-3219 / Fax: 985-876-6789 PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL COMMUNICATION This electronic transmission and any documents attached hereto may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. The information is intended only for use by the recipient named above. If you have received this electronic message in error please notify the sender and delete the electronic message. Any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of information received in error or otherwise is strictly prohibited. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Wireless Relay Control (Scada?)
How about this? http://www.controlbyweb.com/webrelay/ I've used these before and it works pretty well. If you use 2 of them together, you do not need to use a computer. - Original Message From: Chuck Profito cprof...@cv-access.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, August 6, 2009 10:57:18 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Wireless Relay Control (Scada?) Jeremy, could the small digitallogger power controller do it? -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Parr Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 8:43 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Wireless Relay Control (Scada?) I have a project that requires turning a remote relay on and off, over the distance of about a mile. I'd like dry contacts at either end. Would a SCADA product do this? No need for anything serial or ethernet, just need to switch a relay on and off. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] speaking of partnerships...
Vicki, I'm in south MS. hit me off list. joe dot miller at dslbyair dot com www.dslbyair.com - Original Message From: Vickie Edwards vedwa...@inline.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 1:24:48 PM Subject: [WISPA] speaking of partnerships... We're currently looking for wireless companies in and around southern Mississippi that would be interested in a partnership. I'm also interested in hearing from anyone in west and south Alabama for a potential project. If this is you, or you know a WISP that is interested, please email or call me ASAP so we can get together on this. Thanks! Vickie Edwards InLine vickie edwards, MPA | Grant Specialist InLine Connections Solutions Through Technology 600 Lakeshore Pkwy Birmingham AL, 35209 205-278-8106 [p] 205-941-1934[f] vedwa...@inline.com www.InLine.com All Quotes from InLine are only valid for 30 days. This message and any attached files may contain confidential information and are intended solely for the message recipient. If you are not the message recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] basic contract for 3rd party company doing installations
Rick, Thanks, this is perfect. I just have to change a little of the verbage. This has saved a bunch of time. Joe M - Original Message From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 11:08:22 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] basic contract for 3rd party company doing installations Looks like I'm the agreement guy :) OK, here you go but I make no claims as to its legal viability or content. I'm sure it doesnt cover everything so feel free to change as you like but use at your own risk. -RickG On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Joe Millerjoe.mil...@dslbyair.com wrote: Does anyone here have a basic contract that they use for a 3rd party to do installs and service work? I just want to set expectations before any work gets done. I have a company willing to do installs for me and I want to make sure that everything is covered. thanks in advance. Joe Miller DSLbyAir, LLC 228-238-2563 www.dslbyair.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tower Locations
Anyone willing to share this information with the group? - Original Message From: Blake Bowers bbow...@mozarks.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 3:03:55 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tower Locations Those Rohn 45 and 55 towers are also for sale. Don't take your organs to heaven, heaven knows we need them down here! Be an organ donor, sign your donor card today. - Original Message - From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 2:28 PM Subject: [WISPA] Tower Locations I have come across a network of 40 towers available for rent in the Illinois, Mississippi, and Ohio River valleys as well as the Gulf. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] basic contract for 3rd party company doing installations
Does anyone here have a basic contract that they use for a 3rd party to do installs and service work? I just want to set expectations before any work gets done. I have a company willing to do installs for me and I want to make sure that everything is covered. thanks in advance. Joe Miller DSLbyAir, LLC 228-238-2563 www.dslbyair.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Lightning 1, Bullet 0
It didn't stand a chance, lol. - Original Message From: Robert West robert.w...@just-micro.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org; Motorola Canopy User Group motor...@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 4:17:34 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Lightning 1, Bullet 0 A little Hot glue should be able to fix that right up. -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists Sent: Thursday, July 23, 2009 5:15 PM To: WISPA General List; Motorola Canopy User Group Subject: [WISPA] Lightning 1, Bullet 0 For your vicarious enjoyment of nature vs. Ubiquiti products http://www.thelar.com/gallery2/v/Wireless/Miscellaneous/ Won't be doing an RMA on this unit. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tower Locations
Mike, Care to share that information? Joe Miller DSLbyAir, LLC 228-238-2563 www.dslbyair.com - Original Message From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 2:28:04 PM Subject: [WISPA] Tower Locations I have come across a network of 40 towers available for rent in the Illinois, Mississippi, and Ohio River valleys as well as the Gulf. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo TR-5800 Access
Run wireshark, plug the radio in question up to your computer. Power cycle the radio and it should give up it's IP address after it powers back up. I use this method on a lot of different radios. - Original Message From: Charles Wyble char...@thewybles.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:21:09 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo TR-5800 Access Do a broadcast ping with something plugged straight into it? Josh Luthman wrote: IIRC Tranzeo has a cdp utility on it - and a mac finding tool. Not sure if one of these would work as that model isn't listed... http://support.tranzeo.com/files.php?utilities Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 When you have eliminated the impossible, that which remains, however improbable, must be the truth. --- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com wrote: I have a few used TR-5800s that I do not know the IP address so. Any tricks to locating it? The MAC address is worn off the back label, and sniffing the wire reveals no activity (should it?). WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Tranzeo TR-5800 Access
Are these TR-5800's or the older ZX-5800's from Tranzeo - Original Message From: Jeremy Parr jeremyp...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 11:08:57 AM Subject: [WISPA] Tranzeo TR-5800 Access I have a few used TR-5800s that I do not know the IP address so. Any tricks to locating it? The MAC address is worn off the back label, and sniffing the wire reveals no activity (should it?). WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Broadband Mapping NOFA
Brian, Have you had a chance to see this yet? Notice of Funding Availability (NOFA) for the State Broadband Data and Development Grant Program. It is on the following link, http://broadbandusa.sc.egov.usda.gov/index.htm WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP
I'm currently using a 900mhz Trango SU for this one micro-site. The tower is 35ft tall, and I'm using 2.4 ghz for the AP. There is about 25 homes in this area. I put up the site hoping to get at least 5 of them. With the work of mouth traveling in that area, I ended up with 90% of the homes there. The ones that didn't want the service were old couples that didn't use the Internet. I will be replacing the 35ft tower with a 60ft self support tower, and upgrading to a pair of Deliberant 900mhz radios. If you are going to be in the WISP business, you have to be part speculator. - Original Message From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2009 10:48:42 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP LOL, I've thought about going into the tree trimming/cutting business to complement the WISP! I've cut my share for customers. I'm the only one around here that likes tornadoes ice storms :) -RickG On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Rick Harnish rharn...@wispa.org wrote: Have you tried the MS 880 STIHL MagnumT Chain Saw. It will do wonders for link integrity! :) -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2009 11:28 AM To: w...@part-15.org Cc: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] [WISP] 900 PtP Have you tried going H rather than V or vicea-versa ? Yes. Try a ptp 900mhz at that range or to much noise for it ? Not detecting any. Could be a phone or something though. Something that comes and goes. This really seemed to start with a change in the weather though. Try something other than Trango ? Haven't tried that yet. I no have an option of building a two hope ptp link via a third location. This would allow me to go around the trees all together, but it would also introduce another point of failure. The best part? There are only 15 subs off of this system, I'm not sure how much I'm willing to spend here just yet. Especially since we end up with so much lightning damage every year (no way around it, we already have all the protection we can get). This is in a huge storm corridor. marlon -- Original Message -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Reply-To: w...@part-15.org Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 22:09:33 -0700 I have a trango link that's only giving me 2 megs. Sometimes much less. The link is 2.3 or so miles. There are TWO pine trees in the way. What would you guys use? I need to get more speed to the remote tower. thanks, marlon - Original Message - From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: w...@part-15.org Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 8:47 PM Subject: Re: [WISP] 900 PtP I just did this set up for a customer. Unfortunately they have ltos of pine trees. The panels didnt cut it and neither did yagis. Big grids did the trick. -RickG On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net wrote: Mikrotik xr9's with arc wireless panels If the link budget supports them. Throw in 411a boards and you have a sweet setup. Justin -- Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net From: Jeremy Grip g...@nbnworks.net Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2009 7:06 PM To: w...@part-15.org Subject: [WISP] 900 PtP Anyone have any suggestions for a 900 PtP link? 2.5 miles, 25% trees at the far end. Should give me as much BW as possible, support most flavors of QOS for VoIP, and price matters. TIA, Jeremy Grip North Branch Networks, LLC Sent via the WebMail system at avolve.net WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.51/2151 - Release Date: 06/03/09 05:53:00 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe:
Re: [WISPA] Monowall and Microsoft Vista machines
Since I'm not a computer guy, how does one disable the IPv6 stack on the Vista machine? - Original Message From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net To: Joe Miller joe.mil...@dslbyair.com Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 7:44:13 AM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Monowall and Microsoft Vista machines We disable the IPv6 stack on the Vista Box. (the IPv6 stack causes other problems, including connecting with Dialup). Faisal Imtiaz Computer Office Solutions Inc. /SnappyDSL.net Ph: (305) 663-5518 x 232 -Original Message- From: Joe Miller [mailto:joe.mil...@dslbyair.com] Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 7:17 AM To: fai...@snappydsl.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monowall and Microsoft Vista machines I do not have problems with wired connections, it actually works for the most part. Are you disabling the IPv6 stack in the Vista machine, or in Monowall? - Original Message From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net To: Joe Miller joe.mil...@dslbyair.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 10:34:33 PM Subject: RE: [WISPA] Monowall and Microsoft Vista machines Curious. Have u tried to disable the IPv6 stack in Vista ? We are using monowall on wired networks with Vista, once the IPv6 stack is disabled, have not seen any issues with DHCP. Regards Faisal Imtiaz -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Joe Miller Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 11:17 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monowall and Microsoft Vista machines Yes I do, they are RV Parks. They are great money makers, but this Vista issue is getting out of hand. - Original Message From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 9:27:44 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monowall and Microsoft Vista machines Joe, I've seen Vista have issues connecting with all kinds of access points. I usually have the customer get a different router and it works. Which takes me to a question: Why do you have customers connecting laptops directly to you? Do you run a hotspot? -RickG On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Joe Miller joe.mil...@dslbyair.com wrote: I'm having a hell of a time with Vista machines connecting to my Monowall router. I found this regarding Windows Vista cannot obtain an IP address from certain routers or from certain non-Microsoft DHCP servers, and gives the fix for the computer.. HOW MANY PEOPLE are knowledgable enough with Vista to fix there own machine? support.microsoft.com/default.as...33/en-us and Monowall's latest version: m0n0.ch/wall/ 04/11/2009 - m0n0wall 1.3b16 released This beta release improves IPv6 support (by providing more control over RAs, adding DHCPv6, allowing IPv6 DNS servers, enabling IPv6 webGUI access, etc.), adds initial basic support for secondary IP addresses, patches a kernel security issue and adds support for Broadcom BCM5722 NICs. Has anyone dealt with this before? Does anyone know how to make Vista work on their Monowall routers without having to assign a static address on the Vista machine? This is starting to become a pain in the a$$. The customer will complain that they cannot connect to the captive portal and will say it worked in the last place they were at. It kind of makes me wonder why Microsoft pulled such a rotten joke on end-users. -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ -- -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] DMA Labs
Does this work with Authorize.net? - Original Message From: Jaron Parsons jpars...@sumnercomm.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 8:39:50 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] DMA Labs We use it for a hotspot authorization and payment gateway. It works very well once setup, the packaging system is a little confusing, but the support is great. The guy that maintains it will pretty much setup it up for you. Only drawback to me is ... We tried to run in on FreeBSD which most of our other servers run and is more stable imo , but it was unable to run one of his binaries properly. he said it will run on FreeBSD but is better supported on LINUX. The manual has detailed instructions for fedora and gentoo i believe. So it wasn't too hard. Just make sure you have a stable LINUX server running first, and let him do the rest remotely and you shouldn't have too much to worry about. Other drawback is that the support guy must be out of the states, cause it sometimes takes 12 hours for a response. but i do not think i have ever NOT received a response in more than 24 hours. Also his english is not 100% but I had no problems understanding him. Otherwise, it is very flexible, and reliable once running. It took about a days worth of fiddling with it to understand the packages and get them running the way i wanted. I have run ours for about a year without a reboot. It integrates with paypal or netcash good too. If you have any other questions feel free to give me a shout or shoot me an e-mail! Jaron Parsons Networking Div Manager Sumner Communications 117 W Harvey Wellington, KS 67152 620-326-8989 Jerry Richardson wrote: Anyone using these Radius based billing software solutions? http://www.dmasoftlab.com/cont/home http://www.radius-manager.com/ Comments? Broadband for Business Public and Private WiFi Jerry Richardson VP Operations 925-260-4119 _ ConsuWISP RF Topographical Coverage Maps Network Optimization and Planning Network Design and Troubleshooting Installer and Technician Training P Please consider the environment before printing this email WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Monowall and Microsoft Vista machines
Yes I do, they are RV Parks. They are great money makers, but this Vista issue is getting out of hand. - Original Message From: RickG rgunder...@gmail.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2009 9:27:44 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Monowall and Microsoft Vista machines Joe, I've seen Vista have issues connecting with all kinds of access points. I usually have the customer get a different router and it works. Which takes me to a question: Why do you have customers connecting laptops directly to you? Do you run a hotspot? -RickG On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Joe Miller joe.mil...@dslbyair.com wrote: I'm having a hell of a time with Vista machines connecting to my Monowall router. I found this regarding Windows Vista cannot obtain an IP address from certain routers or from certain non-Microsoft DHCP servers, and gives the fix for the computer. HOW MANY PEOPLE are knowledgable enough with Vista to fix there own machine? »support.microsoft.com/default.as···33/en-us and Monowall's latest version: »m0n0.ch/wall/ 04/11/2009 - m0n0wall 1.3b16 released This beta release improves IPv6 support (by providing more control over RAs, adding DHCPv6, allowing IPv6 DNS servers, enabling IPv6 webGUI access, etc.), adds initial basic support for secondary IP addresses, patches a kernel security issue and adds support for Broadcom BCM5722 NICs. Has anyone dealt with this before? Does anyone know how to make Vista work on their Monowall routers without having to assign a static address on the Vista machine? This is starting to become a pain in the a$$. The customer will complain that they cannot connect to the captive portal and will say it worked in the last place they were at. It kind of makes me wonder why Microsoft pulled such a rotten joke on end-users. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Monowall and Microsoft Vista machines
I'm having a hell of a time with Vista machines connecting to my Monowall router. I found this regarding Windows Vista cannot obtain an IP address from certain routers or from certain non-Microsoft DHCP servers, and gives the fix for the computer. HOW MANY PEOPLE are knowledgable enough with Vista to fix there own machine? »support.microsoft.com/default.as···33/en-us and Monowall's latest version: »m0n0.ch/wall/ 04/11/2009 - m0n0wall 1.3b16 released This beta release improves IPv6 support (by providing more control over RAs, adding DHCPv6, allowing IPv6 DNS servers, enabling IPv6 webGUI access, etc.), adds initial basic support for secondary IP addresses, patches a kernel security issue and adds support for Broadcom BCM5722 NICs. Has anyone dealt with this before? Does anyone know how to make Vista work on their Monowall routers without having to assign a static address on the Vista machine? This is starting to become a pain in the a$$. The customer will complain that they cannot connect to the captive portal and will say it worked in the last place they were at. It kind of makes me wonder why Microsoft pulled such a rotten joke on end-users. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Hold harmless contract
Does anyone here have a Hold Harmless Contract for a water tower or even a tower in general? The owners of the water tower wants a hold harmless contract in case something happens to the climber while on their property. I would appreciate any help with this. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] What do you charge for a wireless router setup?
Wasn't the GeekSquad working out of the Curcuit City stores? Where are they now? - Original Message From: Pat O'Connor p...@inlandnet.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 10:30:54 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] What do you charge for a wireless router setup? They have to pay for the uniforms and stylish vehicles somehow. ;-) D. Ryan Spott wrote: Have you seen what geeksquad charges? http://www.geeksquad.com/services/computer/category.aspx?id=2567 Don't sell yourself short. :) ryan Pat O'Connor wrote: I was thinking a $35 fee for on site setup. A $20 fee if they brought the router in within 48 hrs of the scheduled installation date. Is this appropriate? What are the rest of you doing? Thanks, Pat WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Monowall Voucher Issue
Is anyone using the Voucher feature of the Monowall router? I'm looking for the captive portal contents srcipt to upload to the device. I only found this but it no longer exists, http://homepage.mac.com/mwiget/FileSharing17.html Can someone either post the script here or email it to me off list. This is what I'm trying to get working http://forum.m0n0.ch/index.php/topic,127.0.html I.m using the current version 1.3b16. Thanks, WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Other lists
Mike, You looking for equipment for IPTV? or any other FTTX equipment? I was doing a ftth project and it got shut down. I do have some AFL material along with a complete MFH3 TVIP system for sale. Hit me off list. Joe Miller DSLbyAir, LLC - Original Message From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 10:54:48 AM Subject: [WISPA] Other lists Does anyone know of any good discussion lists\forums that cover MVNO and IPTV operations? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] IPTV (OT but hey, we are all in this biz to do crazy IP based stuff)
pretty muchnow we have fiber CPE's, pedestals, fiber switches, a 4 gateway DirecTV MFH3 IPTV system, and other parts collecting dust in a building. - Original Message From: D. Ryan Spott rsp...@cspott.com To: Joe Miller joe.mil...@dslbyair.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 12:36:17 PM Subject: IPTV (OT but hey, we are all in this biz to do crazy IP based stuff) So why did it get shutdown? ryan Joe Miller wrote: Mike, You looking for equipment for IPTV? or any other FTTX equipment? I was doing a ftth project and it got shut down. I do have some AFL material along with a complete MFH3 TVIP system for sale. Hit me off list. Joe Miller DSLbyAir, LLC - Original Message From: Mike Hammett wispawirel...@ics-il.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, April 30, 2009 10:54:48 AM Subject: [WISPA] Other lists Does anyone know of any good discussion lists\forums that cover MVNO and IPTV operations? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem
First off, I believe your signal is too hot. turn the tx power down til you reach between a -50 and -60 dB. That is usually the sweet spot on most RF equipment. Right now you are screaming at each other. - Original Message From: Gino Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, April 3, 2009 1:38:09 PM Subject: [WISPA] Trango Giga Problem I have a 2 mile 18 ghz link using Trango Giga, Im starting to drop packets, auto rate has dropped speed to qpsk, still MSE and BER is being affected sometimes on one end or both ...ATPC is on, rssi is -35 on both ends anyway to tell where the problem is? Gino A. Villarini g...@aeronetpr.com Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. tel 787.273.4143 fax 787.273.4145 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Ridiculously OT, but relevant question...
I would use an old CD. Hang it where the woodpecker is pecking. Hang it in a way that the CD will move freely with a fishing line. Birds do not like reflections of moving objects, it scares them. --- On Tue, 3/17/09, rea...@muddyfrogwater.us rea...@muddyfrogwater.us wrote: From: rea...@muddyfrogwater.us rea...@muddyfrogwater.us Subject: [WISPA] Ridiculously OT, but relevant question... To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 2:04 PM How, uhh, do you deal with woodpeckers...??? Anyone got any ideas other than shotgun? insert witty tagline here WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream forthentiameetingstoday
I do not think that these folks have a cure as to what to do. listening to this is putting me to sleep --- On Mon, 3/16/09, Denise Hamilton den...@rapidsys.com wrote: From: Denise Hamilton den...@rapidsys.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream forthentiameetingstoday To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Monday, March 16, 2009, 1:08 PM Coming across complaining about lawsuits, the local governments, the telcos, etc. is not a good way, in my humble opinion, to come across and successfully make policy in what we should be doing to make rules for grants. I trust when WISPA represents us on Thursday we come across better then the New America Foundation. Sorry but we never like to hire people that only complained about their last employer... ~ Denise Hamilton Rapid Systems 813-232-4887 x 101 Fax 813-236-0014 den...@rapidsys.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:56 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream forthentiameetingstoday We have had an on again/off again relationship with New America Foundation. Mostly we agree with them. They lean far more to locally built non profit or consumer created networks than commercial ones. marlon - Original Message - From: Jon Auer j...@tapodi.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:52 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream forthentiameetingstoday Yeah. What do you make of this Sascha guy? He seems like one of the more reasonable people there and then he throws something in that makes me think he is hinting at GovMuniWifi On Mon, Mar 16, 2009 at 9:50 AM, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: More with a government or non profit agency of some kind. I agree though, so far the best speakers are pushing for private public partnerships. With public being the main partner. marlon - Original Message - From: Lists li...@stlbroadband.com To: ccoo...@intelliwave.com; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 7:45 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for thentiameetingstoday They are asking us to partner with the State, but it is under debate. V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of chris cooper Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:44 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday Scary? Care to expand upon that for those of us not in attendance? Chris -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Lists Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:40 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntiameetingstoday Not me, this is getting a bit scary. V -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:38 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday I'm going to fall asleep watching this... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com -- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:24 AM To: legislat...@wispa.org Cc: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] only 20 people on the video stream for the ntia meetingstoday http://www.ntia.doc.gov/broadbandgrants/video.html come join me. marlon WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/
Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs yourself, they are for the young
Marlon, You are joking..right? --- On Fri, 3/6/09, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs yourself, they are for the young To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 8:30 AM Who uses wall plates anyway? We just try to get the hole right at the top of the baseboards. Then, someday when all this is gone and some new technology (TV band with no external antenna?) replaces it they'll just have to plug one small hole and give it a dab of paint! marlon - Original Message - From: Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs yourself, they are for the young Don't they still make plates with just a 1/4 hole in it. No need to drill. George Rogato wrote: I was trying to drill a hole into a blank wall plate. All of the sudden, it shattered into about 10 pieces. That happens a lot with a typical bakerlite type wall plate. Next time you buy blank plates, try to find the lexan flexible ones. Everyone makes them, they are rubber like and when you drill a hole in it, it doesn't crack or shatter. They come in white ivory etc and like I said, everyone makes them , Leviton, eagle, ps, hubble etc. They cost no more. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1985 - Release Date: 03/05/09 07:54:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Rare Earth Magnet Tripod for Water Tank
Before you go down this road with magnets, are the water towers that you are using have external I-beem support over the top of the water tower? If you do, I would suggest using beem clamps to attach the the water tower. It is a lot more cost effect solution. --- On Fri, 3/6/09, John McDowell j...@boonlink.com wrote: From: John McDowell j...@boonlink.com Subject: [WISPA] Rare Earth Magnet Tripod for Water Tank To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org, Principal WISPA Member List w...@wispa.org, Motorola Canopy User Group motor...@wispa.org Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 8:25 AM I know this has been posted before,but with no one really having any resources for this. Does ANYONE have any info on how to do this, or who to get the magnets from?? I have two tripods from SitePro1. Thanks in advance! -- John M. McDowell Boonlink Communications 307 Grand Ave NW Fort Payne, AL 35967 256.844.9932 j...@boonlink.com www.boonlink.com This message contains information which may be confidential and privileged. Unless you are the addressee (or authorized to receive for the addressee), you may not use, copy, re-transmit, or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message. If you have received the message in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail j...@boonlink.com, and delete the message. E-mail communication is highly susceptible to spoofing, spamming, and other tampering, some of which may be harmful to your computer. If you are concerned about the authenticity of the message or the source, please contact the sender directly. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs yourself, they are for the young
Here is an idea for the tower sitesRun your cat5 in electrical conduit, the gray PVC type. That way the cat5 will be protected from the weather. I've done this and I haven't had to replace cat5 on the towers on over 3 years now. --- On Fri, 3/6/09, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs yourself,they are for the young To: joe.mil...@dslbyair.com Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 10:06 AM I have had a few customers look at us crosswise. A couple have even asked for wall plates, or had us install ethernet jacks. We'll do this if asked, but I don't carry the parts with me. I also try REALLY hard to NOT put any ethernet wall plates in. I don't want the extra connection in a poe situation. It's probably fine, but as an ex lineman I know that connections are almost always the reason for a failure so I want the fewest possible. We try to hide all cable as much as possible, we ask for a vacuum to clean up any drillings, we do NOT leave the little ends from the cat5 crimps laying around - not even outside. Hell, until recently we always ran indoor WHITE cat 5 cable. People REALLY liked that, I have just gotten tired of cables with water in them. Luckily it seems to almost exclusively happen at my towers not at the customer's sites. It's usually cheap and easy to replace the bad cable and ruined poe. But I hate service calls! Sure wish I could find a double insulated white cable to use instead of this black stuff we're using now. laters, marlon - Original Message - From: Joe Miller joe.mil...@dslbyair.com To: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 7:59 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs yourself,they are for the young I just had to ask..very interesting. --- On Fri, 3/6/09, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs yourself,they are for the young To: joe.mil...@dslbyair.com, WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 9:51 AM Not at all. We hide the holes behind a desk or something when ever possible. You'll never notice them. Unlike a big, ugly wall plate. marlon - Original Message - From: Joe Miller joemiller...@yahoo.com To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 6:40 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs yourself,they are for the young Marlon, You are joking..right? --- On Fri, 3/6/09, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs yourself, they are for the young To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Friday, March 6, 2009, 8:30 AM Who uses wall plates anyway? We just try to get the hole right at the top of the baseboards. Then, someday when all this is gone and some new technology (TV band with no external antenna?) replaces it they'll just have to plug one small hole and give it a dab of paint! marlon - Original Message - From: Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs yourself, they are for the young Don't they still make plates with just a 1/4 hole in it. No need to drill. George Rogato wrote: I was trying to drill a hole into a blank wall plate. All of the sudden, it shattered into about 10 pieces. That happens a lot with a typical bakerlite type wall plate. Next time you buy blank plates, try to find the lexan flexible ones. Everyone makes them, they are rubber like and when you drill a hole in it, it doesn't crack or shatter. They come in white ivory etc and like I said, everyone makes them , Leviton, eagle, ps, hubble etc. They cost no more. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1985
[WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs yourself, they are for the young
This should make for a good read, or a good laugh. This week, my installer has been out of town. However, business still goes on. I decided to do some of the installs while he is away. Nothing was different about these installs from the hundreds of installs that I've done in the past. The first install that I did on Tuesday of this week resulted in drilling a small hole in my right hand. I was trying to drill a hole into a blank wall plate. All of the sudden, it shattered into about 10 pieces. What the hell was I thinking. I've never tried to do that in the past. I've always used a 2x4 or something like that to back it up to keep that from happening. It was getting late and I took a short cut. My right hand is still paying the price for that one. The second install resulted in putting my foot through the ceiling due to not have full use of my right hand from the install the day before. Walking around in ceilings requires the use of both hands. Well, my right hand, still in pain from the install the day before, was having issues with it being used. Anyway, while moving around in the attic area for the third time to fish up my cat5 cable and to remove the tools that I put up there, I slipped on one of the ceiling joists and put my foot through the sheetrock. I though the homeowner was going to come unglued, but he was pretty cool about it. He was more concerned about me than his ceiling. In order to save face, I gave him the $249.00 install for free, gave him the new router and USB wireless adapter (cost of $100.00) for free as well. Along with a free months service of $49.95. This was to help cover the cost of the repair of the sheetrock. The hole in the ceiling was the size of my size 13 shoe. And of course I'm really sore this morning writing this. Anyway, the whole point of writing this is that there is a time in everyone's life when you have to leave the installs to the younger ones. I'm not saying I'm too old to do this, but after running cable in houses for over 20 years, it is time to let others take care of it. Even if it means putting off installs for new customers. As the VP of Operations for my company, I've always had the just get it done attitude. There is nothing that my company does that I cannot do, and I have. It doesn't mean that I have to do them. When that time comes, you just have to learn how to delegate those jobs out. Now that everyone has had a laugh at my expense, (it's ok). Maybe someone here can learn from what I did this week and not make the same mistakes. The main thing is that we do our jobs well. And above all...we do them safely. Joe Miller DSLbyAir, LLC 228-238-2563 www.dslbyair.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs yourself, they are for the young
Us kids are sore from falling,...lol --- On Thu, 3/5/09, NGL n...@ngl.net wrote: From: NGL n...@ngl.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs yourself, they are for the young To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 10:48 AM What wrong with you kids? I am 75 and still doing installs. Just have to be careful. Same thing when you 20. NGL -- From: Patrick Leary ple...@apertonet.com Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 8:12 AM To: joe.mil...@dslbyair.com; WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs yourself,they are for the young Enjoyed the story Joe. Definitely made me laugh. Being 44 now, I get it to. Not so long ago I'd think nothing of jumping off a 1 story roof. Now I give a second thought to jumping down 3 stairs... You know age is catching up when you have your chiropractor in your mobile phone favorites list! Patrick Leary Aperto Networks 813.426.4230 mobile -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Joe Miller Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 6:10 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs yourself,they are for the young This should make for a good read, or a good laugh. This week, my installer has been out of town. However, business still goes on. I decided to do some of the installs while he is away. Nothing was different about these installs from the hundreds of installs that I've done in the past. The first install that I did on Tuesday of this week resulted in drilling a small hole in my right hand. I was trying to drill a hole into a blank wall plate. All of the sudden, it shattered into about 10 pieces. What the hell was I thinking. I've never tried to do that in the past. I've always used a 2x4 or something like that to back it up to keep that from happening. It was getting late and I took a short cut. My right hand is still paying the price for that one. The second install resulted in putting my foot through the ceiling due to not have full use of my right hand from the install the day before. Walking around in ceilings requires the use of both hands. Well, my right hand, still in pain from the install the day before, was having issues with it being used. Anyway, while moving around in the attic area for the third time to fish up my cat5 cable and to remove the tools that I put up there, I slipped on one of the ceiling joists and put my foot through the sheetrock. I though the homeowner was going to come unglued, but he was pretty cool about it. He was more concerned about me than his ceiling. In order to save face, I gave him the $249.00 install for free, gave him the new router and USB wireless adapter (cost of $100.00) for free as well. Along with a free months service of $49.95. This was to help cover the cost of the repair of the sheetrock. The hole in the ceiling was the size of my size 13 shoe. And of course I'm really sore this morning writing this. Anyway, the whole point of writing this is that there is a time in everyone's life when you have to leave the installs to the younger ones. I'm not saying I'm too old to do this, but after running cable in houses for over 20 years, it is time to let others take care of it. Even if it means putting off installs for new customers. As the VP of Operations for my company, I've always had the just get it done attitude. There is nothing that my company does that I cannot do, and I have. It doesn't mean that I have to do them. When that time comes, you just have to learn how to delegate those jobs out. Now that everyone has had a laugh at my expense, (it's ok). Maybe someone here can learn from what I did this week and not make the same mistakes. The main thing is that we do our jobs well. And above all...we do them safely. Joe Miller DSLbyAir, LLC 228-238-2563 www.dslbyair.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless
Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs yourself, they are for the young
It was an existing plate on the wall and I didn't have any on my truck at the time. I have them now. --- On Thu, 3/5/09, Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net wrote: From: Scott Reed scottr...@onlyinternet.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] Knowing when to stop doing installs yourself, they are for the young To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, March 5, 2009, 11:08 AM Don't they still make plates with just a 1/4 hole in it. No need to drill. George Rogato wrote: I was trying to drill a hole into a blank wall plate. All of the sudden, it shattered into about 10 pieces. That happens a lot with a typical bakerlite type wall plate. Next time you buy blank plates, try to find the lexan flexible ones. Everyone makes them, they are rubber like and when you drill a hole in it, it doesn't crack or shatter. They come in white ivory etc and like I said, everyone makes them , Leviton, eagle, ps, hubble etc. They cost no more. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.8/1985 - Release Date: 03/05/09 07:54:00 -- Scott Reed Sr. Systems Engineer GAB Midwest 1-800-363-1544 x4000 Cell: 260-273-7239 WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Link problem
One think I would look at is: Are the connector center pins crimped or are they soldered? Temperature has a way on contracting and expanding metal, darned all the luck. But this has happened to me in the past. --- On Tue, 3/3/09, Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net wrote: From: Blair Davis the...@wmwisp.net Subject: [WISPA] Link problem To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 12:58 PM div id=yiv1672673950!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN html head /head Hi all...br br All of a sudden, a PtP link that has been stable, -79 rssi or so bi-directional has become very asymmetric.br br I now get -79 rssi/-98 noise floor at one end and -88 rssi/-95 noise floor at the other...br br Link is a pair of cm9's, 20db grids, 5.180GHz, range 1km, clear LOS. 3ft lmr-400 radio to antenna at one end, 60ft lmr-400 radio to antenna at other end.br br Any ideas? br br Clear and cold here, 27F. Dry since last Thursday...br br Thanks.br br Blairbr br br /html /div WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Link problem
LOL...Jack, I love the way you were able to troubleshoot his INDOOR link. Very informative. My hat's off to ya. Kudoos --- On Tue, 3/3/09, Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com wrote: From: Jack Unger jun...@ask-wi.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Link problem To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Tuesday, March 3, 2009, 5:39 PM div id=yiv703214689!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN html head /head OK - well that changes EVERYTHING! Change the LMR-400 jumper on the end with the low RSSI. br br br Blair Davis wrote: blockquote type=cite A typo It should have read 5.280GHz...br br Sorry for the confusion.br br Jack Unger wrote: blockquote type=cite Blair, br br Well, because the 5.180 GHz range is only legal for indoor use in the U.S., your problem could be one of the following. br br a) The signal over the 1 km indoor path is bouncing off too many interior walls and creating unpredictable multipath effects. Check to see if any new interior walls have been constructed recently and, if so, order them removed immediately. If they are in the critical path, don't hesitate to immediately knock them down yourself! In the future, plan to cover such long indoor paths with at least 3 hops. br br b) Somebody moved some large item somewhere in the 1km-long warehouse (or whatever other HUGE building) that you have deployed inside of. That huge moved item (perhaps a large crane or boat) is partially blocking the signal path. The item may be closer to one end of the link thereby causing the lower RSSI at the other end of the link. Walk the path to locate any large objects and have them relocated. br br c) The building may have become overheated at one end causing the cm9 at that end to overheat and go out of spec causing low transmitter output power. Check the building temperature at the end OPPOSITE the end where the RSSI is low and correct it. br br d) A bird may have gotten into the building (don't laugh, I've seen it happen before, especially in very large buildings) and built a nest in the feedhorn of one grid antenna thereby introducing 9 dB of attenuation of the signal strength on receive. Visually inspect both antennas and remove any bird nests. Try to humanly trap the bird if at all possible and release it outdoors with a firm verbal command to go home and don't come back. br br e) The clear and cold weather outdoors may have caused a buildup of static electricity indoors causing static damage to the front end of the cm9 which is experiencing the RSSI decrease. The chances of this are high especially if you failed to install lightning arrestors on both ends of the indoor link. br br f) Last but not least (and this is VERY IMPORTANT) - don't even think about trying to figure out what might have happened to cause the RSSI decrease until you go into that warehouse (or whatever that building is) and CHANGE OUT EVERY PIECE OF EQUIPMENT ON BOTH ENDS OF THE LINK. Many, many WISPs have been using this method to fix bad links for many years. If so many WISPs are using this (swap before you stop) method, there must be a very good reason why!br br Good luck and good birding!!br br jackbr br br Blair Davis wrote: blockquote type=citeHi all...br br All of a sudden, a PtP link that has been stable, -79 rssi or so bi-directional has become very asymmetric.br br I now get -79 rssi/-98 noise floor at one end and -88 rssi/-95 noise floor at the other...br br Link is a pair of cm9's, 20db grids, 5.180GHz, range 1km, clear LOS. 3ft lmr-400 radio to antenna at one end, 60ft lmr-400 radio to antenna at other end.br br Any ideas? br br Clear and cold here, 27F. Dry since last Thursday...br br Thanks.br br Blairbr br br prehr size=4 width=90% WISPA Wants You! Join today! a rel=nofollow class=moz-txt-link-freetext target=_blank href=http://signup.wispa.org/;http://signup.wispa.org//a WISPA Wireless List: a rel=nofollow class=moz-txt-link-abbreviated target=_blank href=mailto:wireless@wispa.org;wireless@wispa.org/a Subscribe/Unsubscribe: a rel=nofollow class=moz-txt-link-freetext target=_blank href=http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless;http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless/a Archives: a rel=nofollow class=moz-txt-link-freetext target=_blank href=http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/;http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless//a/pre /blockquote br pre class=moz-signature-- Jack Unger - President, Ask-Wi.Com, Inc. Serving the Broadband Wireless Industry Since 1993 Cisco Press Author - Deploying
Re: [WISPA] hotspot data capturing
What kind of hotspot software are you using? Some software will give you a breakdown on reports. --- On Mon, 3/2/09, Martha Huizenga mar...@dcaccess.net wrote: From: Martha Huizenga mar...@dcaccess.net Subject: [WISPA] hotspot data capturing To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Monday, March 2, 2009, 1:49 PM Hi all, So, we started using hotspot software for some of our MTUs. However, I am not wondering, do I input each user into my system (Quickbooks) for each payment or do I roll them up some how? I am concerned about tracking for the 477. There are different levels of service, so it's not just one pot. Also, with the new census tracts the addresses are not all going to be in the same tract, so this would need to be captured too. I'd love to hear thoughts about how others do this. As well as your thoughts about how you go about repeat marketing if you don't capture this information. Thanks Martha -- Martha Huizenga DC Access, LLC 202-546-5898 */Friendly, Local, Affordable, Internet!/**/ Connecting the Capitol Hill Community /* WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] worlds smallest computer
This will also work well with anyone working with radio stations. This will be a good service for space option for the radio stations. --- On Sat, 2/28/09, Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com wrote: From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] worlds smallest computer To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Saturday, February 28, 2009, 1:24 AM Please let me know how you do that. We're interested for Sheriff's office repeaters. marlon - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com To: e...@wisp-router.com; 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 6:43 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] worlds smallest computer Eje, Why don't you look into stocking those fit-PC slim's? I'm going to look into getting some for sending audio-over-ethernet for some 2-way radio purposes... Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of e...@wisp-router.com Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 9:08 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] worlds smallest computer The matchbox pc is almost twice as large if I do not read the specs wrong. 250ishx155x70some mm Compared to 110x100x30mm for the fit-pc. /Eje Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: Marlon K. Schafer o...@odessaoffice.com Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 18:02:06 To: WISPA General Listwireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] worlds smallest computer Pretty cool But I think he was trumped by the original! http://thydzik.com/matchboxPC/ grin marlon - Original Message - From: Kurt Fankhauser k...@wavelinc.com To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 5:54 PM Subject: [WISPA] worlds smallest computer Has anyone seen or used one of these? http://www.fit-pc.com/new/fit-pc-slim-specificatios.html I found it on a ham radio website, all I have to say is WOW. Kurt Fankhauser WAVELINC P.O. Box 126 Bucyrus, OH 44820 419-562-6405 www.wavelinc.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Fw: Economic Stimulus Funds: Public Meeting Hosted byLead Government Agencies
wtfover --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Steve Smith st...@chase3000.com wrote: From: Steve Smith st...@chase3000.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: Economic Stimulus Funds: Public Meeting Hosted byLead Government Agencies To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 11:10 AM Since others have not responded to this yet, I will say that I know that WISPA will have at least one representative present in person at the meeting. I spoke with a RUS representative yesterday asking for more information on how they plan on dealing with the stimulus program. Their response was this: Please follow our web site. Yes, we know it hasn't been updated in weeks. We will be holding a joint meeting with NTIA on the 10th. After that we will post more information on the site. Yes, we know that the loan program information on our site doesn't work. You are still welcome to submit a request but since the forms are invalid it probably won't do any good until we issue new ones at some unknown date in the future. We are aware that that NTIA is holding meetings with groups starting March 2 but RUS is not prepared to do that. Please watch the web site for updates. NTIA gives the impression that they are far more organized than RUS however, that may just be RUS feeling that the less information they give out the more likely they are to be able to direct the money to the people they prefer. Steve Smith Chase 3000 Imperial, NE 69033 st...@chase3000.com 308 882-3000 308 883-3001 cell -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of St. Louis Broadband Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 8:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] Fw: Economic Stimulus Funds: Public Meeting Hosted byLead Government Agencies Is WISPA planning on being at this meeting? On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Steve Barnes st...@pcswin.com wrote: Is there any chance we can get this meeting streamed Live? Steve Barnes RCWiFi Wireless Internet Service -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Joe Miller Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 3:02 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] Fw: Economic Stimulus Funds: Public Meeting Hosted by Lead Government Agencies To everyone keeping an eye on this: --- On Thu, 2/26/09, Lipman, Andrew D. andrew.lip...@bingham.com wrote: From: Lipman, Andrew D. andrew.lip...@bingham.com Subject: Economic Stimulus Funds: Public Meeting Hosted by Lead Government Agencies To: Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 12:17 PM The three principle agencies responsible for awarding billions of dollars to the telecom industry -- NTIA, USDA, and the FCC -- will host a public meeting in D.C. to discuss the broadband initiatives funded by the economic stimulus legislation, including the new Broadband Technology Opportunities Program, the new Rural Development Broadband Program, and the development of a National Broadband Plan. The meeting will take place on March 10 at the U.S. Department of Commerce. As seating will be limited, the meeting will also be broadcast over the web. The attached announcement will appear in the tomorrow's Federal Register. We will be attending the presentation to monitor issues that could impact the application process for those funds. Please contact either myself or Frank Lamancusa (202-373-6812), if you would like to discuss the opportunities that the legislation can bring to your company. Andy Andrew D. Lipman Partner, Practice Group Leader T 202.373.6033 F 202.373.6001 andrew.lip...@bingham.com B I N G H A M Bingham McCutchen LLP 2020 K Street NW Washington, DC 20006-1806 == Bingham McCutchen LLP Circular 230 Notice: To ensure compliance with IRS requirements, we inform you that any U.S. federal tax advice contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used by any taxpayer, for the purpose of avoiding any federal tax penalties. Any legal advice expressed in this message is being delivered to you solely for your use in connection with the matters addressed herein and may not be relied upon by any other person or entity or used for any other purpose without our prior written consent. == WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org
[WISPA] Fw: Economic Stimulus Funds: Public Meeting Hosted by Lead Government Agencies
To everyone keeping an eye on this: --- On Thu, 2/26/09, Lipman, Andrew D. andrew.lip...@bingham.com wrote: From: Lipman, Andrew D. andrew.lip...@bingham.com Subject: Economic Stimulus Funds: Public Meeting Hosted by Lead Government Agencies To: Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 12:17 PM The three principle agencies responsible for awarding billions of dollars to the telecom industry -- NTIA, USDA, and the FCC -- will host a public meeting in D.C. to discuss the broadband initiatives funded by the economic stimulus legislation, including the new Broadband Technology Opportunities Program, the new Rural Development Broadband Program, and the development of a National Broadband Plan. The meeting will take place on March 10 at the U.S. Department of Commerce. As seating will be limited, the meeting will also be broadcast over the web. The attached announcement will appear in the tomorrow's Federal Register. We will be attending the presentation to monitor issues that could impact the application process for those funds. Please contact either myself or Frank Lamancusa (202-373-6812), if you would like to discuss the opportunities that the legislation can bring to your company. Andy Andrew D. Lipman Partner, Practice Group Leader T 202.373.6033 F 202.373.6001 andrew.lip...@bingham.com B I N G H A M Bingham McCutchen LLP 2020 K Street NW Washington, DC 20006-1806 == Bingham McCutchen LLP Circular 230 Notice: To ensure compliance with IRS requirements, we inform you that any U.S. federal tax advice contained in this communication is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used by any taxpayer, for the purpose of avoiding any federal tax penalties. Any legal advice expressed in this message is being delivered to you solely for your use in connection with the matters addressed herein and may not be relied upon by any other person or entity or used for any other purpose without our prior written consent. == NTIA USDA Broadband Notice.pdf Description: NTIA USDA Broadband Notice.pdf WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] (no subject)
The antennas I have on water towers are attached by beam clamps. I will use a 1 1/2 piece of EMT pipe, drill a hole through the pipe and connect the beam clamp to it with a bolt long enough to go through the pipe. this way nothing is welded or drilled into the water tower. If for some reason we have to remove out gear, there is nothing that has to be repaired by us or the water company. Hope this helps some. --- On Wed, 2/18/09, Ron Wallace rwall...@newgenet.net wrote: From: Ron Wallace rwall...@newgenet.net Subject: [WISPA] (no subject) To: Wispa c...@wispa.org, isp-wirel...@isp-wireless.com, WISPA wireless@wispa.org Date: Wednesday, February 18, 2009, 5:57 AM To All, Over past I have seen antenna mounts on a number of H20 towers - Tank type - constructed by WISP's. Does anyone have pictures? Drawings, etc. I have a meeting with a local township to place our facilities on their water tower. And I need to write a proposal for the board. If you all could help me, yet again, that would be great. Thank you in advance. Ron Wallace Hahnron, Inc. 220 S. Jackson Dt. Addison, MI 49220 Phone: (517)547-8410 Mobile: (517)270-2410 e-mail: rwall...@newgenet.net rwall...@tigernet.bz WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] National WISP Map Graphic - Over half amillionsquaremiles covered!
Brian, It is not difficult to embarrass those type of people. And what do they have to show for all of those millions already spent? I've been disappointed for a long time with the way the government spends our money, thinking they know how to do it better than us. Shame on them. Our hard earned tax dollars at work... --- On Thu, 2/5/09, Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com wrote: From: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] National WISP Map Graphic - Over half amillionsquaremiles covered! To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 7:21 AM No, but I did offer one of the FCC lawyers my services to show all the Form 477 data on a map like this for their own internal use and to show congress where the broadband is for every technology. haven't heard back on that one yet. I guess an all volunteer project like this embarrasses those who have been granted millions of dollars to do the same thing :-) Thank You, Brian Webster -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 8:14 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] National WISP Map Graphic - Over half amillionsquaremiles covered! anyone have stats on what the cableco and telco cover with high speed access? Brian Jason wrote: For what it's worth (and maybe someone's already said this, but), the US is 3,794,066 sq miles in size (wikipedia) which means the current coverage is 19.767%! That's significant. Jason Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Yes. I can see it now. Hi mr congressman, we're WISPA, we represent coverage for xxx,xxx,xxx of your voters..Maybe they would listen Brian Brian Webster wrote: That is coming. See my message about help needed downloading data. The daily updates are coming in so fast that it's almost full time work just keeping up with that. Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]on Behalf Of chris cooper Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 2:35 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: Re: [WISPA] National WISP Map Graphic - Over half amillionsquaremiles covered! And/or how many doorsteps actually have coverage. Chris And I REALLY want to know how many homes are passed by those circles! Marlon (509) 982-2181 (408) 907-6910 (Vonage)Consulting services 42846865 (icq)WISP Operator since 1999! o...@odessaoffice.com www.odessaoffice.com/wireless www.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- -- WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] National Map update for today - 837, 341 Square miles covered
Brian, Is there a way to put the covered square miles on the map? --- On Thu, 2/5/09, Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com wrote: From: Brian Webster bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com Subject: [WISPA] National Map update for today - 837, 341 Square miles covered To: WISPA List wireless@wispa.org, Motorola Canopy List motor...@wispa.org, memb...@wispa.org Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 5:18 PM Time for the daily map project update. I'm still getting WISP's sending their network data. Some have even taken on the task of drawing coverage polygons for the other WISP's in their state. They have logged on to their web sites and either mapped the communities listed or traced out a coverage map posted on the page. Project description: http://www.wirelessmapping.com/National%20Map.htm Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] National Map update - over 600, 000 square miles covered
Yes...very odd. --- On Wed, 2/4/09, Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@comcast.net wrote: From: Jeff Broadwick jeffl...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [WISPA] National Map update - over 600, 000 square miles covered To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com, 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 7:53 AM No one in South Carolina? Who knew?!?! :-) Jeff -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 12:15 AM To: WISPA List; memb...@wispa.org; Motorola Canopy List Subject: [WISPA] National Map update - over 600,000 square miles covered Today's updates put the National WISP footprint at 605,487 square miles. I continue to have a huge outpouring of support from WISP's who want to provide their network coverage data. I thank each and every one of your for supporting this project. My Google maps version has been updated and I have attached the latest static map image. http://www.wirelessmapping.com/National%20Map.htm Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Mac Dearman
Mac, The folks here on the Gulf Coast are also pulling for you. Just take it easy and you have friends here that take up the slack for you including myself if you need it. Get well soon, --- On Mon, 1/12/09, Patrick Leary ple...@apertonet.com wrote: From: Patrick Leary ple...@apertonet.com Subject: Re: [WISPA] Mac Dearman To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Monday, January 12, 2009, 9:38 AM It will take more than this to take out a guy like Mac. He is too strong, too cantankerous...and too excellent a person. Take the unpleasant forced break to genuinely de-compress and appreciate your most important relationships Mac. And certainly all of us out here will send you our thoughts and prayers. Your friend, Patrick -Original Message- From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Larsen - Lists Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 6:52 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] Mac Dearman Our good friend and fellow WISP operator Mac Dearman is in the hospital after suffering chest pains on Saturday. It was determined that he did have a heart attack and he will be undergoing further tests tomorrow at the hospital in Shreveport. Please send your thoughts and prayers to Mac and his family right now. Mac is a great friend and a true American hero - lets help him get through this. Matt Larsen vistabeam.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] Personalized Web Toolbar
Hi all...I'm working on a WISP toolbar for my customers. It can be found at http://DSLbyAir.OurToolbar.com The source for this is at http://www.conduit.com I can sure use some input on this before it goes live to my customers. It is similar to the Google and Yahoo toolbars. It can also be easily uninstalled too. I'm trying to come up with marketing ideas to increase revenue. Please download it and tell me what you think about it. WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] Snow in New Orleans
Joe, No Snow here in Biloxi, MS as of 1100 hrs CST --- On Thu, 12/11/08, Joe Laura [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Joe Laura [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] Snow in New Orleans To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Thursday, December 11, 2008, 10:25 AM Not sure how you guys deal with this snow stuff. We got a blizzard this morning. About 3/4 worth. Power outages, school closings and traffic was a mess. Im glad its only one day every few years. Joe Laura Superior Alarm/Wireless New Orleans,La. www.superior1.com WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave
Mac, Kick me off an email off list. joe dot miller at dslbyair dot com. I have a question for you. Did not mean to hi jack the thread. Joe --- On Wed, 10/8/08, Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Mac Dearman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 7:58 AM I too will have to give props to Deliberant's support. We recently came in to several areas where a company had folded up shop after their USDA grant money ran out. They had 90% Deliberant gear and we were trying to re-use the customers current radios so there wouldn't be such an expense on these folks who were left holding the bag and no internet service available to them. To make a long story short - - Sharon (our Secretary, accountant, receptionist, install scheduler, tech support person, payroll dept, accounts receivable dept and mother of all my children) called Deliberant (specifically Caleb) who so graciously sent firmware and led het through the process of being able to reuse their radios. It goes a long way to these country folks who were already overcharged for these radios to NOT have to buy a new CPE or pay a large install fee when they have already been down that road. The former company had given wireless a black eye in these towns and Deliberants support helped the recover the wireless name when we were able to get them all back on line for a minimal $$ to the end user. Thanks Caleb!! Mac Dearman -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Miller Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2008 9:03 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave I knew Caleb was lurking around here somewhere. I have been buying equipment from Caleb (Deliberant) for a number of years. I have always been able to call him when I have an issue with a radio. If I leave a messege on his voice mail, he always calls me back. Even if it is after his business hours, I have gotten returned calls from Caleb. I have stayed with this company because of this. I haven't found any company that has better customer service than Deliberant/Ligowave. I have bought equipment from other companies, but it takes days for resolving an issue with the equipment. I do not have the time or patience for slow technical support. Or find out that I have to go further up the totum pole to get the next tier support. With Caleb...the buck stops with him. Disclaimer: I have not been paid for these statements. I am not telling you anything you do not already know if you have any history with this company. DSLbyAir, LLC --- On Mon, 10/6/08, Caleb Knauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Caleb Knauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: Deliberant Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 6:30 PM Hey Marlon, I wanted to reply to this to you and on the lists to answer your questions and make some things clearer, as there are some points of confusion that can definitely be cleared up (now and going forward) on our part. Deliberant and Ligowave are sister companies. Originally our new CPE offerings were going to be launched on the Ligowave side of the house, but we decided to move all of the standards (802.11) stuff to Deliberant and focus Ligowave on the proprietary (PTP, PTMP, Mesh) solutions. The first round of gear shipped with the Ligowave FCC stickers as the updated Deliberant ones were not available yet, hence the different stickers. Everything now has Deliberant stickers on them. VPOL is with the cat5 connector pointing down, you are correct. HPOL is with the cat5 connector to the side (rotated 90*). Confusing, yes, and the stickers should be here soon. We do need to add the instructions for the cat5 connector and the support number to the quick start guide. The first one is always the trickiest! The support number is the main number at 800-742-9865, and it is open 9-5 Eastern. My direct extension is in my signature. We are completely overhauling the GUI with a Flex backend that is much faster. We have a beta available, so contact me offlist if you are interested. RSSI value listed on the Status page is basically the difference between received signal and the noise floor. So if you have an RSSI value of 40, there is 40dB between the noise floor and what you are receiving. We have plans to add the actual received level (in dB) to the Status page soon, and until then if you do a Site Survey on the Tools page you can see the levels there as well. Bridge mode should work, but I have some
Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave
Eric, Can you post them when you are done? --- On Wed, 10/8/08, Eric Muehleisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Eric Muehleisen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 1:30 PM Put a LigoPTP on a public IP and I'll whip us some quick cacti templates. -Eric Matt Jenkins wrote: You current software for the LigoPTP radios uses standard SNMP OIDs for traffic interfaces. At least it does in Cacti. I would really like to see Cacti templates for things like db, snr, etc. Matt Hardy wrote: Hi David, A couple of responses :) I'd be happy if more vendors would standardize on SNMP, at the very least, and ideally export things like signal (and/or SNR) in a usable way. Ligowave doesn't export signal levels anywhere in their (very minimal) MIB, instead asking you to use their proprietary software. A few customers have requested these stats be exposed via SNMP, so we have now added a couple of custom MIBs to the software that provide information not found in the standard 802.11 SNMP MIBs (such as association count, signal level, etc). This should be available soon (For both LigoWave and Deliberant) If you want to win my undying affection, get a couple dozen vendors to adopt a unified wireless MIB structure. We'd be happy to work together with other vendors and provide a more standardized wireless stats MIB as an extension to the 802.11 MIB for standards based stats (receive signal level, noise level, etc). Best Regards, Matt Hardy LigoWave WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ WISPA Wants You! Join today! http://signup.wispa.org/ WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave
I knew Caleb was lurking around here somewhere. I have been buying equipment from Caleb (Deliberant) for a number of years. I have always been able to call him when I have an issue with a radio. If I leave a messege on his voice mail, he always calls me back. Even if it is after his business hours, I have gotten returned calls from Caleb. I have stayed with this company because of this. I haven't found any company that has better customer service than Deliberant/Ligowave. I have bought equipment from other companies, but it takes days for resolving an issue with the equipment. I do not have the time or patience for slow technical support. Or find out that I have to go further up the totum pole to get the next tier support. With Caleb...the buck stops with him. Disclaimer: I have not been paid for these statements. I am not telling you anything you do not already know if you have any history with this company. DSLbyAir, LLC --- On Mon, 10/6/08, Caleb Knauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Caleb Knauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Cc: Deliberant Support [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, October 6, 2008, 6:30 PM Hey Marlon, I wanted to reply to this to you and on the lists to answer your questions and make some things clearer, as there are some points of confusion that can definitely be cleared up (now and going forward) on our part. Deliberant and Ligowave are sister companies. Originally our new CPE offerings were going to be launched on the Ligowave side of the house, but we decided to move all of the standards (802.11) stuff to Deliberant and focus Ligowave on the proprietary (PTP, PTMP, Mesh) solutions. The first round of gear shipped with the Ligowave FCC stickers as the updated Deliberant ones were not available yet, hence the different stickers. Everything now has Deliberant stickers on them. VPOL is with the cat5 connector pointing down, you are correct. HPOL is with the cat5 connector to the side (rotated 90*). Confusing, yes, and the stickers should be here soon. We do need to add the instructions for the cat5 connector and the support number to the quick start guide. The first one is always the trickiest! The support number is the main number at 800-742-9865, and it is open 9-5 Eastern. My direct extension is in my signature. We are completely overhauling the GUI with a Flex backend that is much faster. We have a beta available, so contact me offlist if you are interested. RSSI value listed on the Status page is basically the difference between received signal and the noise floor. So if you have an RSSI value of 40, there is 40dB between the noise floor and what you are receiving. We have plans to add the actual received level (in dB) to the Status page soon, and until then if you do a Site Survey on the Tools page you can see the levels there as well. Bridge mode should work, but I have some ideas. Shoot me your IP info offlist (radio, gateway, rest of the local network segment, etc) and we can troubleshoot. When you enable Router mode, a Firewall tab should appear that will allow you to port forward. Any other questions, please feel free to ping me offlist or give me a ring at my number and extension in my signature. We appreciate the feedback and look forward to your (and everyone else's) assistance in improving our products. Thanks, Caleb === Caleb Knauer Deliberant LLC 800.742.9865 x 206 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.deliberant.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marlon K. Schafer Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 6:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: WISPA General List Subject: [WISPA] deliberant/ligowave Hi All, I just installed my first radio from these guys. (Anyone know if it's the same company) I'm tossing out my very first thoughts as I'm still at the customer's location, this is as raw as it'll get. First thing I noticed was a box that said Deliberant and a radio that said LigoWave. Probably the same company but it would be nice if the stickers matched. Next, no polarity marking of any kind on it. My guess of vertical being all stickers and connectors down seems to be correct. Nothing tells you how to put the outdoor connector together. I've done them before so I knew which way to put that tapered gasket in, but my first time I'm not sure I'd have gotten it right. No tech support phone number in the manual. If it's there I couldn't find it. The interface is slow. Definitely God's gift to the hourly wage guy. I'm trying this unit at a location that runs VPN and VoIP out of a home office. Ever since I installed an MT AP her Tranzeo CPQ unit does the disconnect thing and drops her calls and connections. Speeds are
Re: [WISPA] Dual Pol Antennas
Now for the 64 dollar question on dual pol antennas...Can one run 2 separate links using a Dual Pol Antenna pair. I'm looking at using 2 sets of Trango Link 45's. I would like to run 1 link Vertical and 1 link Horizional. using differant freqs of course. Can both of these links use the same dual pol antennas pair. I want to use one for a backup. Best Regards, DSLbyAir, LLC 228-238-2563 --- On Mon, 9/29/08, Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Pol Antennas To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Date: Monday, September 29, 2008, 2:02 PM They have SNR but not RSSI, which Does that mean they can't do a spectrum scan to get rssi of AP? And need to be associated to get a SNR? Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: jp [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Pol Antennas The NS5 two small antennnas in it, one for each polarity. They have SNR but not RSSI, which I don't like. They don't currently do WPA2+WDS together very well; the firmware is improving quickly and has a lot of room for improvement, but is promising. You can't turn radio power down lower than 10dbm, and it's a 50/50 chance whether the radio will have an SMA or reverseSMA connector if you want to use an external antennas. I'd like to see a few more months of polishing before recommending them. We have only used them with MT and nanostation APs. On Sun, Sep 28, 2008 at 01:49:02PM -0500, Tom DeReggi wrote: Just looked up the Arc wireless 5.x DP subscriber antenna. Looks like a pretty awesome option. 20dbi DP for around $60 + $60 for mount and enclosure if desired. Thats makin' it real. Not to switch subjects but... The NanoStation5, has two 14dbi Dual pol antennas inside. A great value, for near range residential, for $100. Any negatives with these units (for their purpose)? Do they report full RF stats such as SNR and RSSI of the link? Have people found that they work well with StarOS and Mikrotik APs? (for their purpose of a single user residential type CPE) Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2008 12:52 PM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Pol Antennas The MTI 5GHz dual-pol sectors we bought were around $600 if I remember correctly. Interesting. I wasn't saying that it isn't hard. Some manufacturers have found easy and cost effective ways to make Dual Pol antennas. But I'm guessing there could be some intelectual property patent issues, or anyone to do it? But there has to be some savings attributed to shared costs such as ... mounts, case, shipping costs, overhead, distributor markup, RD. These things are all a tangable cost that goes toward the cost of a single pol antenna, and are not increased when the inside of the antenna design gets modified to be DP. I'd be intereted in what percentage of a single pol antenna cost is for the above 4 things compared to the element itself. Truthfully, we have come a long way with DP design and price for parabolics and subscriber panels. What realy confuses me is, why manufacturers still can;t come up with a low cost DP AP sector antenna? Its ironic as heck, that trango can sell an entire AP radio and int DP sector antenna, for less than third parties sell a single DP sector antenna by itself. Thats still the missing peice of the puzzle in 5.x Ghz DP. Its Ironic as heck... Titltek can make a 4ft 900Mhz dual pol 90deg for under $700. But can't find a 2ft 5.x Ghz Dp 90 for less than a grand. The last few I did, I took my old Trango 5800s, drill holes in them for the pigtails, took out the SBC, and used them for the antenna. It was cheaper than buying an antenna. A couple vendors have represented that they can make them. But I don't see part numbers listed. I'd love to see these in the sub $300 range. Tom DeReggi RapidDSL Wireless, Inc IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband - Original Message - From: Chuck McCown - 3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2008 11:30 AM Subject: Re: [WISPA] Dual Pol Antennas A dual pol panel antenna can be an order of magnitude more difficult to make than a single linear polarized antenna. Almost all panel antennas are either an array of patches or an array of butterfly dipole elements over a ground plane. Most designers are trying to put as much gain
