Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Nick Olsen]

Well, Technically they sent One. Because it sends to an alias. Which then 
sends to the rest of the users. That being said. They limit and error given 
specifically says Receiving. Not sending.
  
 Nick Olsen
Network Operations  (855) FLSPEED  x106

  


 From: "Josh Luthman" 
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 10:20 AM
To: "n...@flhsi.com" 
Cc: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting   
 But that one user sent 300 messages.  I'm not talking about receiving.
   
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
   On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Nick Olsen  wrote:   
Agreed. Like I said. We exceed that on a per-domain or per-sendingIP 
basis.
  
 However, They swear that limit is per-user. So, User receives an email 
that is part of a list. Replies all, Which sends to an Alias. And that 
Alias spawns off 300+ emails to 300+ users. So no one user actually 
Received more then a few emails per minute.
  
 Just like this list. The mail server in question may send 300+ emails when 
I click send. But I, Nor you. Have received any more then a few messages.
   
 Nick Olsen
Network Operations   (855) FLSPEED  x106

  



 From: "Josh Luthman" 
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 10:10 AM
To: "n...@flhsi.com"
Cc: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting


 If there are 300 members one reply to all is 300 messages in that one 
moment, which well exceeds 180/minute, though...
 
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
 On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Nick Olsen  wrote:
For this particular customer. We/they filter their incoming mail through a 
Barracuda spam filter. From there it's forwarded to Google Apps. 
  
 Well recently $CUSTOMER has been bouncing around a TON of internal email 
due to sending internal distribution lists. Then people "reply all" the 
message, Spawning another 300+ emails. So the key here. Is that google 
apps. Even for internal user to user mail. Does an MX lookup and sends the 
mail to whatever it gets back. So even their internal mail gets looped 
through our barracuda filter.
  
 Well, Mail started to stack up in the barracuda getting rejected by google 
SMTP for exceeding the users rate limit. Which is apparently 180 messages a 
minute, 3600 an hour. Or 86,400 a day. Google swears this is "per-user". 
Not per domain. Or per sending IP. But it appears that's incorrect. As no 
one user has received that much mail. The domain as a whole has. As well as 
a single sending IP (Our barracuda) exceeded that limit.
  
 After about an hour on the phone with support. They asked me to send them 
headers. Only to reply four hours later with a carbon copy of the error 
message I was already given in the SMTP session 
(http://support.google.com/mail/answer/6592).
  
 Guess we'll see how they respond to my follow up email.
   
 Nick Olsen
Network Operations(855) FLSPEED  x106

  



 From: "Josh Luthman" 
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:44 AM
To: n...@flhsi.com
Cc: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

  

Eh "If you can't fix my problem find someone who can".  

What is the issue?  

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373  On Mar 7, 2014 9:40 AM, "Nick Olsen"  
wrote: Darn, And here I thought you had some kind of Google Apps secret 
for me. Like "Talk to the Irish people, They're the competent ones".
  
 Granted, That would've been an awkward phone call. "Can I speak to.. The 
.. Irish... people?"
  
 Nick Olsen
Network Operations (855) FLSPEED  x106

  

----------------
 From: "Josh Luthman" 
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:36 AM
To: n...@flhsi.com
Cc: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting  

Well I'm bad at my foreign accents.  I thought I read Scottish or Irish.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373On Mar 7, 2014 9:09 AM, "Nick Olsen"  
wrote:  Irish? No. Both foreign (Unknown origin) but not Irish for 
sure.
  
 Nick Olsen
Network Operations  (855) FLSPEED  x106

  


 From: "Josh Luthman" 
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:07 AM
To: n...@flhsi.com
Cc: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting   

Did you talk to the Irish people?  

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373   

Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Mike Hammett]

I would never outsource to someone like Google or GoDaddy or... Only to places 
where you can call (or e-mail) someone that can affect a change in the server's 
configuration. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Nick Olsen"  
To: "Josh Luthman"  
Cc: "WISPA General List"  
Sent: Friday, March 7, 2014 9:21:44 AM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting 


Well, Technically they sent One. Because it sends to an alias. Which then sends 
to the rest of the users. That being said. They limit and error given 
specifically says Receiving. Not sending. 

Nick Olsen 
Network Operations 
(855) FLSPEED x106 




>From : "Josh Luthman"  
Sent : Friday, March 07, 2014 10:20 AM 
To : "n...@flhsi.com"  
Cc : "WISPA General List"  
Subject : Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting 

But that one user sent 300 messages. I'm not talking about receiving. 


Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Nick Olsen < n...@flhsi.com > wrote: 


Agreed. Like I said. We exceed that on a per-domain or per-sendingIP basis. 

However, They swear that limit is per-user. So, User receives an email that is 
part of a list. Replies all, Which sends to an Alias. And that Alias spawns off 
300+ emails to 300+ users. So no one user actually Received more then a few 
emails per minute. 

Just like this list. The mail server in question may send 300+ emails when I 
click send. But I, Nor you. Have received any more then a few messages. 


Nick Olsen 
Network Operations 
(855) FLSPEED x106 




>From : "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
Sent : Friday, March 07, 2014 10:10 AM 
To : " n...@flhsi.com " < n...@flhsi.com > 


Cc : "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org > 
Subject : Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting 



If there are 300 members one reply to all is 300 messages in that one moment, 
which well exceeds 180/minute, though... 


Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 
On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Nick Olsen < n...@flhsi.com > wrote: 


For this particular customer. We/they filter their incoming mail through a 
Barracuda spam filter. From there it's forwarded to Google Apps. 

Well recently $CUSTOMER has been bouncing around a TON of internal email due to 
sending internal distribution lists. Then people "reply all" the message, 
Spawning another 300+ emails. So the key here. Is that google apps. Even for 
internal user to user mail. Does an MX lookup and sends the mail to whatever it 
gets back. So even their internal mail gets looped through our barracuda 
filter. 

Well, Mail started to stack up in the barracuda getting rejected by google SMTP 
for exceeding the users rate limit. Which is apparently 180 messages a minute, 
3600 an hour. Or 86,400 a day. Google swears this is "per-user". Not per 
domain. Or per sending IP. But it appears that's incorrect. As no one user has 
received that much mail. The domain as a whole has. As well as a single sending 
IP (Our barracuda) exceeded that limit. 

After about an hour on the phone with support. They asked me to send them 
headers. Only to reply four hours later with a carbon copy of the error message 
I was already given in the SMTP session ( 
http://support.google.com/mail/answer/6592 ). 

Guess we'll see how they respond to my follow up email. 


Nick Olsen 
Network Operations 
(855) FLSPEED x106 




>From : "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
Sent : Friday, March 07, 2014 9:44 AM 


To : n...@flhsi.com 
Cc : "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org > 
Subject : Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting 



Eh "If you can't fix my problem find someone who can". 
What is the issue? 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 
On Mar 7, 2014 9:40 AM, "Nick Olsen" < n...@flhsi.com > wrote: 


Darn, And here I thought you had some kind of Google Apps secret for me. Like 
"Talk to the Irish people, They're the competent ones". 

Granted, That would've been an awkward phone call. "Can I speak to.. The .. 
Irish... people?" 

Nick Olsen 
Network Operations 
(855) FLSPEED x106 




>From : "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
Sent : Friday, March 07, 2014 9:36 AM 
To : n...@flhsi.com 
Cc : "WISPA General List" < wireless@wispa.org > 
Subject : Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting 

Well I'm bad at my foreign accents. I thought I read Scottish or Irish. 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100

Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Josh Luthman]

https://support.google.com/a/answer/166852?hl=en

Where is the alias?  Is this a Google/Gmail "group"?  If that goes to
something like sa...@foobar.com than I'm not sure where the rules apply


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Nick Olsen  wrote:

> Well, Technically they sent One. Because it sends to an alias. Which then
> sends to the rest of the users. That being said. They limit and error given
> specifically says Receiving. Not sending.
>
> Nick Olsen
> Network Operations
> (855) FLSPEED  x106
>
>
> --
> *From*: "Josh Luthman" 
> *Sent*: Friday, March 07, 2014 10:20 AM
>
> *To*: "n...@flhsi.com" 
> *Cc*: "WISPA General List" 
> *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
>
> But that one user sent 300 messages.  I'm not talking about receiving.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Nick Olsen  wrote:
>>
>> Agreed. Like I said. We exceed that on a per-domain or per-sendingIP
>> basis.
>>
>> However, They swear that limit is per-user. So, User receives an email
>> that is part of a list. Replies all, Which sends to an Alias. And that
>> Alias spawns off 300+ emails to 300+ users. So no one user actually
>> Received more then a few emails per minute.
>>
>> Just like this list. The mail server in question may send 300+ emails
>> when I click send. But I, Nor you. Have received any more then a few
>> messages.
>>
>> Nick Olsen
>> Network Operations
>> (855) FLSPEED  x106
>>
>>
>> --
>> *From*: "Josh Luthman" 
>> *Sent*: Friday, March 07, 2014 10:10 AM
>> *To*: "n...@flhsi.com" 
>>
>> *Cc*: "WISPA General List" 
>> *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
>>
>> If there are 300 members one reply to all is 300 messages in that one
>> moment, which well exceeds 180/minute, though...
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Nick Olsen  wrote:
>>>
>>> For this particular customer. We/they filter their incoming mail through
>>> a Barracuda spam filter. From there it's forwarded to Google Apps.
>>>
>>> Well recently $CUSTOMER has been bouncing around a TON of internal email
>>> due to sending internal distribution lists. Then people "reply all" the
>>> message, Spawning another 300+ emails. So the key here. Is that google
>>> apps. Even for internal user to user mail. Does an MX lookup and sends the
>>> mail to whatever it gets back. So even their internal mail gets looped
>>> through our barracuda filter.
>>>
>>> Well, Mail started to stack up in the barracuda getting rejected by
>>> google SMTP for exceeding the users rate limit. Which is apparently 180
>>> messages a minute, 3600 an hour. Or 86,400 a day. Google swears this is
>>> "per-user". Not per domain. Or per sending IP. But it appears that's
>>> incorrect. As no one user has received that much mail. The domain as a
>>> whole has. As well as a single sending IP (Our barracuda) exceeded that
>>> limit.
>>>
>>> After about an hour on the phone with support. They asked me to send
>>> them headers. Only to reply four hours later with a carbon copy of the
>>> error message I was already given in the SMTP session (
>>> http://support.google.com/mail/answer/6592).
>>>
>>> Guess we'll see how they respond to my follow up email.
>>>
>>> Nick Olsen
>>> Network Operations
>>> (855) FLSPEED  x106
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From*: "Josh Luthman" 
>>> *Sent*: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:44 AM
>>>
>>> *To*: n...@flhsi.com
>>> *Cc*: "WISPA General List" 
>>> *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
>>>
>>>
>>> Eh "If you can't fix my problem find someone who can".
>>>
>>> What is the issue?
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Mar 7, 2014 

Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Josh Luthman]

But that one user sent 300 messages.  I'm not talking about receiving.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Nick Olsen  wrote:

> Agreed. Like I said. We exceed that on a per-domain or per-sendingIP basis.
>
> However, They swear that limit is per-user. So, User receives an email
> that is part of a list. Replies all, Which sends to an Alias. And that
> Alias spawns off 300+ emails to 300+ users. So no one user actually
> Received more then a few emails per minute.
>
> Just like this list. The mail server in question may send 300+ emails when
> I click send. But I, Nor you. Have received any more then a few messages.
>
> Nick Olsen
> Network Operations
> (855) FLSPEED  x106
>
>
> --
> *From*: "Josh Luthman" 
> *Sent*: Friday, March 07, 2014 10:10 AM
> *To*: "n...@flhsi.com" 
>
> *Cc*: "WISPA General List" 
> *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
>
> If there are 300 members one reply to all is 300 messages in that one
> moment, which well exceeds 180/minute, though...
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Nick Olsen  wrote:
>>
>> For this particular customer. We/they filter their incoming mail through
>> a Barracuda spam filter. From there it's forwarded to Google Apps.
>>
>> Well recently $CUSTOMER has been bouncing around a TON of internal email
>> due to sending internal distribution lists. Then people "reply all" the
>> message, Spawning another 300+ emails. So the key here. Is that google
>> apps. Even for internal user to user mail. Does an MX lookup and sends the
>> mail to whatever it gets back. So even their internal mail gets looped
>> through our barracuda filter.
>>
>> Well, Mail started to stack up in the barracuda getting rejected by
>> google SMTP for exceeding the users rate limit. Which is apparently 180
>> messages a minute, 3600 an hour. Or 86,400 a day. Google swears this is
>> "per-user". Not per domain. Or per sending IP. But it appears that's
>> incorrect. As no one user has received that much mail. The domain as a
>> whole has. As well as a single sending IP (Our barracuda) exceeded that
>> limit.
>>
>> After about an hour on the phone with support. They asked me to send them
>> headers. Only to reply four hours later with a carbon copy of the error
>> message I was already given in the SMTP session (
>> http://support.google.com/mail/answer/6592).
>>
>> Guess we'll see how they respond to my follow up email.
>>
>> Nick Olsen
>> Network Operations
>> (855) FLSPEED  x106
>>
>>
>> --
>> *From*: "Josh Luthman" 
>> *Sent*: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:44 AM
>>
>> *To*: n...@flhsi.com
>> *Cc*: "WISPA General List" 
>> *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
>>
>>
>> Eh "If you can't fix my problem find someone who can".
>>
>> What is the issue?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Mar 7, 2014 9:40 AM, "Nick Olsen"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Darn, And here I thought you had some kind of Google Apps secret for me.
>>> Like "Talk to the Irish people, They're the competent ones".
>>>
>>> Granted, That would've been an awkward phone call. "Can I speak to.. The
>>> .. Irish... people?"
>>>
>>> Nick Olsen
>>> Network Operations
>>> (855) FLSPEED  x106
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From*: "Josh Luthman" 
>>> *Sent*: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:36 AM
>>> *To*: n...@flhsi.com
>>> *Cc*: "WISPA General List" 
>>> *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
>>>
>>>
>>> Well I'm bad at my foreign accents.  I thought I read Scottish or Irish.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>   On Mar 7, 2014 9:09 AM, "Nick Olsen"  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Irish? No. Both foreign (Unknown origin) but not Irish for sure.
>>>>
>>>> Nick Olsen
>>>> Ne

Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Nick Olsen]

Agreed. Like I said. We exceed that on a per-domain or per-sendingIP 
basis.
  
 However, They swear that limit is per-user. So, User receives an email 
that is part of a list. Replies all, Which sends to an Alias. And that 
Alias spawns off 300+ emails to 300+ users. So no one user actually 
Received more then a few emails per minute.
  
 Just like this list. The mail server in question may send 300+ emails when 
I click send. But I, Nor you. Have received any more then a few messages.
  
 Nick Olsen
Network Operations  (855) FLSPEED  x106

  


 From: "Josh Luthman" 
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 10:10 AM
To: "n...@flhsi.com" 
Cc: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting   
 If there are 300 members one reply to all is 300 messages in that one 
moment, which well exceeds 180/minute, though...
   
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
   On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Nick Olsen  wrote:   For 
this particular customer. We/they filter their incoming mail through a 
Barracuda spam filter. From there it's forwarded to Google Apps. 
  
 Well recently $CUSTOMER has been bouncing around a TON of internal email 
due to sending internal distribution lists. Then people "reply all" the 
message, Spawning another 300+ emails. So the key here. Is that google 
apps. Even for internal user to user mail. Does an MX lookup and sends the 
mail to whatever it gets back. So even their internal mail gets looped 
through our barracuda filter.
  
 Well, Mail started to stack up in the barracuda getting rejected by google 
SMTP for exceeding the users rate limit. Which is apparently 180 messages a 
minute, 3600 an hour. Or 86,400 a day. Google swears this is "per-user". 
Not per domain. Or per sending IP. But it appears that's incorrect. As no 
one user has received that much mail. The domain as a whole has. As well as 
a single sending IP (Our barracuda) exceeded that limit.
  
 After about an hour on the phone with support. They asked me to send them 
headers. Only to reply four hours later with a carbon copy of the error 
message I was already given in the SMTP session 
(http://support.google.com/mail/answer/6592).
  
 Guess we'll see how they respond to my follow up email.
   
 Nick Olsen
Network Operations   (855) FLSPEED  x106

  



 From: "Josh Luthman" 
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:44 AM   
To: n...@flhsi.com
Cc: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting



Eh "If you can't fix my problem find someone who can".  

What is the issue?  

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373  On Mar 7, 2014 9:40 AM, "Nick Olsen"  
wrote:Darn, And here I thought you had some kind of Google Apps secret 
for me. Like "Talk to the Irish people, They're the competent ones".
  
 Granted, That would've been an awkward phone call. "Can I speak to.. The 
.. Irish... people?"
  
 Nick Olsen
Network Operations(855) FLSPEED  x106

  

--------
 From: "Josh Luthman" 
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:36 AM
To: n...@flhsi.com
Cc: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting 

Well I'm bad at my foreign accents.  I thought I read Scottish or Irish.
  

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373  On Mar 7, 2014 9:09 AM, "Nick Olsen"  
wrote: Irish? No. Both foreign (Unknown origin) but not Irish for 
sure.
  
 Nick Olsen
Network Operations (855) FLSPEED  x106

  

----------------
 From: "Josh Luthman" 
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:07 AM
To: n...@flhsi.com
Cc: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting  

Did you talk to the Irish people?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373On Mar 7, 2014 9:01 AM, "Nick Olsen"  
wrote:  Been dealing with Google Apps for education support on an email 
issue most of yesterday. They've proven to be completely useless thus far. 
/2cents
  
 Nick Olsen
Network Operations  (855) FLSPEED  x106

  


 From: "Mac Dearman" 
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 8:48 PM
To: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting   
Well... I have never had a problem with godaddy and we take care of 
the
customer support. Everything the sub needs is provided for them in their
webmail home page. Mobile email setup, outlook, Iphone, droid...etc is all
just a hyperlink and its done. It has 

Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Josh Luthman]

If there are 300 members one reply to all is 300 messages in that one
moment, which well exceeds 180/minute, though...


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Nick Olsen  wrote:

> For this particular customer. We/they filter their incoming mail through a
> Barracuda spam filter. From there it's forwarded to Google Apps.
>
> Well recently $CUSTOMER has been bouncing around a TON of internal email
> due to sending internal distribution lists. Then people "reply all" the
> message, Spawning another 300+ emails. So the key here. Is that google
> apps. Even for internal user to user mail. Does an MX lookup and sends the
> mail to whatever it gets back. So even their internal mail gets looped
> through our barracuda filter.
>
> Well, Mail started to stack up in the barracuda getting rejected by google
> SMTP for exceeding the users rate limit. Which is apparently 180 messages a
> minute, 3600 an hour. Or 86,400 a day. Google swears this is "per-user".
> Not per domain. Or per sending IP. But it appears that's incorrect. As no
> one user has received that much mail. The domain as a whole has. As well as
> a single sending IP (Our barracuda) exceeded that limit.
>
> After about an hour on the phone with support. They asked me to send them
> headers. Only to reply four hours later with a carbon copy of the error
> message I was already given in the SMTP session (
> http://support.google.com/mail/answer/6592).
>
> Guess we'll see how they respond to my follow up email.
>
> Nick Olsen
> Network Operations
> (855) FLSPEED  x106
>
>
> --
> *From*: "Josh Luthman" 
> *Sent*: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:44 AM
>
> *To*: n...@flhsi.com
> *Cc*: "WISPA General List" 
> *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
>
>
> Eh "If you can't fix my problem find someone who can".
>
> What is the issue?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Mar 7, 2014 9:40 AM, "Nick Olsen"  wrote:
>>
>> Darn, And here I thought you had some kind of Google Apps secret for me.
>> Like "Talk to the Irish people, They're the competent ones".
>>
>> Granted, That would've been an awkward phone call. "Can I speak to.. The
>> .. Irish... people?"
>>
>> Nick Olsen
>> Network Operations
>> (855) FLSPEED  x106
>>
>>
>> --
>> *From*: "Josh Luthman" 
>> *Sent*: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:36 AM
>> *To*: n...@flhsi.com
>> *Cc*: "WISPA General List" 
>> *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
>>
>>
>> Well I'm bad at my foreign accents.  I thought I read Scottish or Irish.
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>  On Mar 7, 2014 9:09 AM, "Nick Olsen"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Irish? No. Both foreign (Unknown origin) but not Irish for sure.
>>>
>>> Nick Olsen
>>> Network Operations
>>> (855) FLSPEED  x106
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From*: "Josh Luthman" 
>>> *Sent*: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:07 AM
>>> *To*: n...@flhsi.com
>>> *Cc*: "WISPA General List" 
>>> *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
>>>
>>>
>>> Did you talk to the Irish people?
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>   On Mar 7, 2014 9:01 AM, "Nick Olsen"  wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Been dealing with Google Apps for education support on an email issue
>>>> most of yesterday. They've proven to be completely useless thus far. 
>>>> /2cents
>>>>
>>>> Nick Olsen
>>>> Network Operations
>>>> (855) FLSPEED  x106
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *From*: "Mac Dearman" 
>>>> *Sent*: Thursday, March 06, 2014 8:48 PM
>>>> *To*: "WISPA General List" 
>>>> *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
>>>>
>>>>   Well... I have never had a problem with godaddy and we take care of
>>>> the
>>>> custom

Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Nick Olsen]

For this particular customer. We/they filter their incoming mail through a 
Barracuda spam filter. From there it's forwarded to Google Apps. 
  
 Well recently $CUSTOMER has been bouncing around a TON of internal email 
due to sending internal distribution lists. Then people "reply all" the 
message, Spawning another 300+ emails. So the key here. Is that google 
apps. Even for internal user to user mail. Does an MX lookup and sends the 
mail to whatever it gets back. So even their internal mail gets looped 
through our barracuda filter.
  
 Well, Mail started to stack up in the barracuda getting rejected by google 
SMTP for exceeding the users rate limit. Which is apparently 180 messages a 
minute, 3600 an hour. Or 86,400 a day. Google swears this is "per-user". 
Not per domain. Or per sending IP. But it appears that's incorrect. As no 
one user has received that much mail. The domain as a whole has. As well as 
a single sending IP (Our barracuda) exceeded that limit.
  
 After about an hour on the phone with support. They asked me to send them 
headers. Only to reply four hours later with a carbon copy of the error 
message I was already given in the SMTP session 
(http://support.google.com/mail/answer/6592).
  
 Guess we'll see how they respond to my follow up email.
  
 Nick Olsen
Network Operations  (855) FLSPEED  x106

  


 From: "Josh Luthman" 
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:44 AM
To: n...@flhsi.com
Cc: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting   

Eh "If you can't fix my problem find someone who can".  

What is the issue?  

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373  On Mar 7, 2014 9:40 AM, "Nick Olsen"  
wrote:   Darn, And here I thought you had some kind of Google Apps secret 
for me. Like "Talk to the Irish people, They're the competent ones".
  
 Granted, That would've been an awkward phone call. "Can I speak to.. The 
.. Irish... people?"
  
 Nick Olsen
Network Operations   (855) FLSPEED  x106

  


 From: "Josh Luthman" 
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:36 AM
To: n...@flhsi.com
Cc: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

Well I'm bad at my foreign accents.  I thought I read Scottish or Irish.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373On Mar 7, 2014 9:09 AM, "Nick Olsen"  
wrote:Irish? No. Both foreign (Unknown origin) but not Irish for sure.
  
 Nick Olsen
Network Operations(855) FLSPEED  x106

  

------------
 From: "Josh Luthman" 
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:07 AM
To: n...@flhsi.com
Cc: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting 

Did you talk to the Irish people?  

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373  On Mar 7, 2014 9:01 AM, "Nick Olsen"  
wrote: Been dealing with Google Apps for education support on an email 
issue most of yesterday. They've proven to be completely useless thus far. 
/2cents
  
 Nick Olsen
Network Operations (855) FLSPEED  x106

  

----
 From: "Mac Dearman" 
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 8:48 PM
To: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting  
   Well... I have never had a problem with godaddy and we take care of the
customer support. Everything the sub needs is provided for them in their
webmail home page. Mobile email setup, outlook, Iphone, droid...etc is all
just a hyperlink and its done. It has been too easy. I didn't say it was
free :-) , but it sure is sweet

Mac

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 3:32 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

Wow, I went through a nightmare with a customer who was using GoDaddy...
We switched them to gmail and they are happy now.. They got NO help
from GoDaddy... around and around they went.. Both on our network and
charter so was able to eliminate that as the problem..

On 03/06/2014 01:14 PM, Mac Dearman wrote:
> We have been outsourcing email/hosting..etc to GoDaddy for 26 months
> now and I can honestly say that it has been a real relief for us.
> Their spam solution has been good as well. We pay about .60 cents a
> month per sub, but they have really nice webmail.
>
>
> YMMV, GL
> Mac
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> On Behalf Of Matt
> Sent: Thursday, March 06

Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Nick Olsen]

Darn, And here I thought you had some kind of Google Apps secret for me. 
Like "Talk to the Irish people, They're the competent ones".
  
 Granted, That would've been an awkward phone call. "Can I speak to.. The 
.. Irish... people?"
  
 Nick Olsen
Network Operations  (855) FLSPEED  x106

  


 From: "Josh Luthman" 
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:36 AM
To: n...@flhsi.com
Cc: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting   

Well I'm bad at my foreign accents.  I thought I read Scottish or Irish.  

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373  On Mar 7, 2014 9:09 AM, "Nick Olsen"  
wrote:   Irish? No. Both foreign (Unknown origin) but not Irish for sure.
  
 Nick Olsen
Network Operations   (855) FLSPEED  x106

  


 From: "Josh Luthman" 
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:07 AM
To: n...@flhsi.com
Cc: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

Did you talk to the Irish people?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373On Mar 7, 2014 9:01 AM, "Nick Olsen"  
wrote:Been dealing with Google Apps for education support on an email 
issue most of yesterday. They've proven to be completely useless thus far. 
/2cents
  
 Nick Olsen
Network Operations(855) FLSPEED  x106

  


 From: "Mac Dearman" 
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 8:48 PM
To: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting 
  Well... I have never had a problem with godaddy and we take care of the
customer support. Everything the sub needs is provided for them in their
webmail home page. Mobile email setup, outlook, Iphone, droid...etc is all
just a hyperlink and its done. It has been too easy. I didn't say it was
free :-) , but it sure is sweet

Mac

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 3:32 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

Wow, I went through a nightmare with a customer who was using GoDaddy...
We switched them to gmail and they are happy now.. They got NO help
from GoDaddy... around and around they went.. Both on our network and
charter so was able to eliminate that as the problem..

On 03/06/2014 01:14 PM, Mac Dearman wrote:
> We have been outsourcing email/hosting..etc to GoDaddy for 26 months
> now and I can honestly say that it has been a real relief for us.
> Their spam solution has been good as well. We pay about .60 cents a
> month per sub, but they have really nice webmail.
>
>
> YMMV, GL
> Mac
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> On Behalf Of Matt
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 12:11 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
>
>> We are using tucows/opensrs. The antispam isn't as good as Postini was.
>> But we fired Postini/Google when I found out that they spy on the
>> customer's communications. Tucows doesn't.
>
> About how much is Tucows per box?
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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Josh Luthman]

Eh "If you can't fix my problem find someone who can".

What is the issue?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 7, 2014 9:40 AM, "Nick Olsen"  wrote:

> Darn, And here I thought you had some kind of Google Apps secret for me.
> Like "Talk to the Irish people, They're the competent ones".
>
> Granted, That would've been an awkward phone call. "Can I speak to.. The
> .. Irish... people?"
>
> Nick Olsen
> Network Operations
> (855) FLSPEED  x106
>
>
> --
> *From*: "Josh Luthman" 
> *Sent*: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:36 AM
> *To*: n...@flhsi.com
> *Cc*: "WISPA General List" 
> *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
>
>
> Well I'm bad at my foreign accents.  I thought I read Scottish or Irish.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Mar 7, 2014 9:09 AM, "Nick Olsen"  wrote:
>>
>> Irish? No. Both foreign (Unknown origin) but not Irish for sure.
>>
>> Nick Olsen
>> Network Operations
>> (855) FLSPEED  x106
>>
>>
>> --
>> *From*: "Josh Luthman" 
>> *Sent*: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:07 AM
>> *To*: n...@flhsi.com
>> *Cc*: "WISPA General List" 
>> *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
>>
>>
>> Did you talk to the Irish people?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>  On Mar 7, 2014 9:01 AM, "Nick Olsen"  wrote:
>>>
>>> Been dealing with Google Apps for education support on an email issue
>>> most of yesterday. They've proven to be completely useless thus far. /2cents
>>>
>>> Nick Olsen
>>> Network Operations
>>> (855) FLSPEED  x106
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From*: "Mac Dearman" 
>>> *Sent*: Thursday, March 06, 2014 8:48 PM
>>> *To*: "WISPA General List" 
>>> *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
>>>
>>>  Well... I have never had a problem with godaddy and we take care of the
>>> customer support. Everything the sub needs is provided for them in their
>>> webmail home page. Mobile email setup, outlook, Iphone, droid...etc is
>>> all
>>> just a hyperlink and its done. It has been too easy. I didn't say it was
>>> free :-) , but it sure is sweet
>>>
>>>
>>> Mac
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>>> Behalf Of Robert
>>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 3:32 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
>>>
>>> Wow, I went through a nightmare with a customer who was using GoDaddy...
>>> We switched them to gmail and they are happy now.. They got NO help
>>> from GoDaddy... around and around they went.. Both on our network and
>>> charter so was able to eliminate that as the problem..
>>>
>>> On 03/06/2014 01:14 PM, Mac Dearman wrote:
>>> > We have been outsourcing email/hosting..etc to GoDaddy for 26 months
>>> > now and I can honestly say that it has been a real relief for us.
>>> > Their spam solution has been good as well. We pay about .60 cents a
>>> > month per sub, but they have really nice webmail.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > YMMV, GL
>>> > Mac
>>> >
>>> > -Original Message-
>>> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>>> > On Behalf Of Matt
>>> > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 12:11 PM
>>> > To: WISPA General List
>>> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
>>> >
>>> >> We are using tucows/opensrs. The antispam isn't as good as Postini
>>> was.
>>> >> But we fired Postini/Google when I found out that they spy on the
>>> >> customer's communications. Tucows doesn't.
>>> >
>>> > About how much is Tucows per box?
>>> > ___
>>> > Wireless mailing list
>>> > Wireless@wispa.org
>>> 

Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Josh Luthman]

Well I'm bad at my foreign accents.  I thought I read Scottish or Irish.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 7, 2014 9:09 AM, "Nick Olsen"  wrote:

> Irish? No. Both foreign (Unknown origin) but not Irish for sure.
>
> Nick Olsen
> Network Operations
> (855) FLSPEED  x106
>
>
> --
> *From*: "Josh Luthman" 
> *Sent*: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:07 AM
> *To*: n...@flhsi.com
> *Cc*: "WISPA General List" 
> *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
>
>
> Did you talk to the Irish people?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Mar 7, 2014 9:01 AM, "Nick Olsen"  wrote:
>>
>> Been dealing with Google Apps for education support on an email issue
>> most of yesterday. They've proven to be completely useless thus far. /2cents
>>
>> Nick Olsen
>> Network Operations
>> (855) FLSPEED  x106
>>
>>
>> ------
>> *From*: "Mac Dearman" 
>> *Sent*: Thursday, March 06, 2014 8:48 PM
>> *To*: "WISPA General List" 
>> *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
>>
>>  Well... I have never had a problem with godaddy and we take care of the
>> customer support. Everything the sub needs is provided for them in their
>> webmail home page. Mobile email setup, outlook, Iphone, droid...etc is all
>> just a hyperlink and its done. It has been too easy. I didn't say it was
>> free :-) , but it sure is sweet
>>
>>
>> Mac
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
>> Behalf Of Robert
>> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 3:32 PM
>> To: WISPA General List
>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
>>
>> Wow, I went through a nightmare with a customer who was using GoDaddy...
>> We switched them to gmail and they are happy now.. They got NO help
>> from GoDaddy... around and around they went.. Both on our network and
>> charter so was able to eliminate that as the problem..
>>
>> On 03/06/2014 01:14 PM, Mac Dearman wrote:
>> > We have been outsourcing email/hosting..etc to GoDaddy for 26 months
>> > now and I can honestly say that it has been a real relief for us.
>> > Their spam solution has been good as well. We pay about .60 cents a
>> > month per sub, but they have really nice webmail.
>> >
>> >
>> > YMMV, GL
>> > Mac
>> >
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>> > On Behalf Of Matt
>> > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 12:11 PM
>> > To: WISPA General List
>> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
>> >
>> >> We are using tucows/opensrs. The antispam isn't as good as Postini was.
>> >> But we fired Postini/Google when I found out that they spy on the
>> >> customer's communications. Tucows doesn't.
>> >
>> > About how much is Tucows per box?
>> > ___
>> > Wireless mailing list
>> > Wireless@wispa.org
>> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > -
>> > No virus found in this message.
>> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> > Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3705/7159 - Release Date:
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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Nick Olsen]

Irish? No. Both foreign (Unknown origin) but not Irish for sure.
  
 Nick Olsen
Network Operations  (855) FLSPEED  x106

  


 From: "Josh Luthman" 
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2014 9:07 AM
To: n...@flhsi.com
Cc: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting   

Did you talk to the Irish people?  

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373  On Mar 7, 2014 9:01 AM, "Nick Olsen"  
wrote:   Been dealing with Google Apps for education support on an email 
issue most of yesterday. They've proven to be completely useless thus far. 
/2cents
  
 Nick Olsen
Network Operations   (855) FLSPEED  x106

  


 From: "Mac Dearman" 
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 8:48 PM
To: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
 Well... I have never had a problem with godaddy and we take care of the
customer support. Everything the sub needs is provided for them in their
webmail home page. Mobile email setup, outlook, Iphone, droid...etc is all
just a hyperlink and its done. It has been too easy. I didn't say it was
free :-) , but it sure is sweet

Mac

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 3:32 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

Wow, I went through a nightmare with a customer who was using GoDaddy...
We switched them to gmail and they are happy now.. They got NO help
from GoDaddy... around and around they went.. Both on our network and
charter so was able to eliminate that as the problem..

On 03/06/2014 01:14 PM, Mac Dearman wrote:
> We have been outsourcing email/hosting..etc to GoDaddy for 26 months
> now and I can honestly say that it has been a real relief for us.
> Their spam solution has been good as well. We pay about .60 cents a
> month per sub, but they have really nice webmail.
>
>
> YMMV, GL
> Mac
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> On Behalf Of Matt
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 12:11 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
>
>> We are using tucows/opensrs. The antispam isn't as good as Postini was.
>> But we fired Postini/Google when I found out that they spy on the
>> customer's communications. Tucows doesn't.
>
> About how much is Tucows per box?
> ___
> Wireless mailing list
> Wireless@wispa.org
> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
>
>
>
> -
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> Version: 2014.0.4335 / Virus Database: 3705/7159 - Release Date:
> 03/06/14
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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Josh Luthman]

Did you talk to the Irish people?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 7, 2014 9:01 AM, "Nick Olsen"  wrote:

> Been dealing with Google Apps for education support on an email issue most
> of yesterday. They've proven to be completely useless thus far. /2cents
>
> Nick Olsen
> Network Operations
> (855) FLSPEED  x106
>
>
> --
> *From*: "Mac Dearman" 
> *Sent*: Thursday, March 06, 2014 8:48 PM
> *To*: "WISPA General List" 
> *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
>
> Well... I have never had a problem with godaddy and we take care of the
> customer support. Everything the sub needs is provided for them in their
> webmail home page. Mobile email setup, outlook, Iphone, droid...etc is all
> just a hyperlink and its done. It has been too easy. I didn't say it was
> free :-) , but it sure is sweet
>
>
> Mac
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Robert
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 3:32 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
>
> Wow, I went through a nightmare with a customer who was using GoDaddy...
> We switched them to gmail and they are happy now.. They got NO help
> from GoDaddy... around and around they went.. Both on our network and
> charter so was able to eliminate that as the problem..
>
> On 03/06/2014 01:14 PM, Mac Dearman wrote:
> > We have been outsourcing email/hosting..etc to GoDaddy for 26 months
> > now and I can honestly say that it has been a real relief for us.
> > Their spam solution has been good as well. We pay about .60 cents a
> > month per sub, but they have really nice webmail.
> >
> >
> > YMMV, GL
> > Mac
> >
> > -----Original Message-
> > From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> > On Behalf Of Matt
> > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 12:11 PM
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> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
> >
> >> We are using tucows/opensrs. The antispam isn't as good as Postini was.
> >> But we fired Postini/Google when I found out that they spy on the
> >> customer's communications. Tucows doesn't.
> >
> > About how much is Tucows per box?
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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Nick Olsen]

Been dealing with Google Apps for education support on an email issue most 
of yesterday. They've proven to be completely useless thus far. /2cents
  
 Nick Olsen
Network Operations  (855) FLSPEED  x106

  


 From: "Mac Dearman" 
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 8:48 PM
To: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting   
Well... I have never had a problem with godaddy and we take care of the
customer support. Everything the sub needs is provided for them in their
webmail home page. Mobile email setup, outlook, Iphone, droid...etc is all
just a hyperlink and its done. It has been too easy. I didn't say it was
free :-) , but it sure is sweet

Mac

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 3:32 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

Wow, I went through a nightmare with a customer who was using GoDaddy...
We switched them to gmail and they are happy now.. They got NO help
from GoDaddy... around and around they went.. Both on our network and
charter so was able to eliminate that as the problem..

On 03/06/2014 01:14 PM, Mac Dearman wrote:
> We have been outsourcing email/hosting..etc to GoDaddy for 26 months
> now and I can honestly say that it has been a real relief for us.
> Their spam solution has been good as well. We pay about .60 cents a
> month per sub, but they have really nice webmail.
>
>
> YMMV, GL
> Mac
>
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> On Behalf Of Matt
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 12:11 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
>
>> We are using tucows/opensrs. The antispam isn't as good as Postini was.
>> But we fired Postini/Google when I found out that they spy on the
>> customer's communications. Tucows doesn't.
>
> About how much is Tucows per box?
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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Mac Dearman]

Well... I have never had a problem with godaddy and we take care of the
customer support. Everything the sub needs is provided for them in their
webmail home page. Mobile email setup, outlook, Iphone, droid...etc is all
just a hyperlink and its done. It has been too easy. I didn't say it was
free :-) , but it sure is sweet


Mac

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Robert
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 3:32 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

Wow, I went through a nightmare with a customer who was using GoDaddy...
  We switched them to gmail and they are happy now..   They got NO help
from GoDaddy...  around and around they went..   Both on our network and
charter so was able to eliminate that as the problem..

On 03/06/2014 01:14 PM, Mac Dearman wrote:
> We have been outsourcing email/hosting..etc to GoDaddy for 26 months 
> now and I can honestly say that it has been a real relief for us. 
> Their spam solution has been good as well. We pay about .60 cents a 
> month per sub, but they have really nice webmail.
> 
> 
> YMMV, GL
> Mac
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
> On Behalf Of Matt
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 12:11 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
> 
>> We are using tucows/opensrs.  The antispam isn't as good as Postini was.
>> But we fired Postini/Google when I found out that they spy on the 
>> customer's communications.  Tucows doesn't.
> 
> About how much is Tucows per box?
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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Dennis Burgess]

We also offer a hosted mailbox solution on our hosted cluster here, contact me 
off-list if you are interested.  We also sell MailEnable for your own mail 
server and can support you on it as well if needed.Just a few options. 

 

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Mike Hammett
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 3:45 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

 

It depends on what you get too. I know that my cost on the more advanced Zimbra 
licenses is over $1/month, but you get a ton with that.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

 



From: "Matt" 
To: "WISPA General List" 
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2014 3:33:01 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

> We have been outsourcing email/hosting..etc to GoDaddy for 26 months now and
> I can honestly say that it has been a real relief for us. Their spam
> solution has been good as well. We pay about .60 cents a month per sub, but
> they have really nice webmail.

And I thought the ~32 cents that google charges was high.  Depends how
many email accounts you have I guess.
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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Mike Hammett]

It depends on what you get too. I know that my cost on the more advanced Zimbra 
licenses is over $1/month, but you get a ton with that. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Matt"  
To: "WISPA General List"  
Sent: Thursday, March 6, 2014 3:33:01 PM 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting 

> We have been outsourcing email/hosting..etc to GoDaddy for 26 months now and 
> I can honestly say that it has been a real relief for us. Their spam 
> solution has been good as well. We pay about .60 cents a month per sub, but 
> they have really nice webmail. 

And I thought the ~32 cents that google charges was high. Depends how 
many email accounts you have I guess. 
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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Matt]

> We have been outsourcing email/hosting..etc to GoDaddy for 26 months now and
> I can honestly say that it has been a real relief for us. Their spam
> solution has been good as well. We pay about .60 cents a month per sub, but
> they have really nice webmail.

And I thought the ~32 cents that google charges was high.  Depends how
many email accounts you have I guess.
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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Robert]

Wow, I went through a nightmare with a customer who was using GoDaddy...
  We switched them to gmail and they are happy now..   They got NO help
from GoDaddy...  around and around they went..   Both on our network and
charter so was able to eliminate that as the problem..

On 03/06/2014 01:14 PM, Mac Dearman wrote:
> We have been outsourcing email/hosting..etc to GoDaddy for 26 months now and
> I can honestly say that it has been a real relief for us. Their spam
> solution has been good as well. We pay about .60 cents a month per sub, but
> they have really nice webmail.
> 
> 
> YMMV, GL
> Mac
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
> Behalf Of Matt
> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 12:11 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
> 
>> We are using tucows/opensrs.  The antispam isn't as good as Postini was.
>> But we fired Postini/Google when I found out that they spy on the 
>> customer's communications.  Tucows doesn't.
> 
> About how much is Tucows per box?
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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Mac Dearman]

We have been outsourcing email/hosting..etc to GoDaddy for 26 months now and
I can honestly say that it has been a real relief for us. Their spam
solution has been good as well. We pay about .60 cents a month per sub, but
they have really nice webmail.


YMMV, GL
Mac

-Original Message-
From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 12:11 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

> We are using tucows/opensrs.  The antispam isn't as good as Postini was.
> But we fired Postini/Google when I found out that they spy on the 
> customer's communications.  Tucows doesn't.

About how much is Tucows per box?
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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Matt]

> We are using tucows/opensrs.  The antispam isn't as good as Postini was.
> But we fired Postini/Google when I found out that they spy on the customer's
> communications.  Tucows doesn't.

About how much is Tucows per box?
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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181)]

We are using tucows/opensrs.  The antispam isn’t as good as Postini was.  But 
we fired Postini/Google when I found out that they spy on the customer’s 
communications.  Tucows doesn’t.

marlon


From: Josh Bowsher 
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 2:49 PM
To: mailto:wireless@wispa.org 
Subject: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

Who is everyone using for outsourced server hosting/management (Windows or 
Linux Servers running SQL, Radius, Billing software) and hosted mail service? 
All input is appreciated.

 

Regards,

 

Joshua S. Bowsher

Director of Internet Services
Midwaynet.net

Midway Electronics

NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
1250 N McKinley Ave
Rensselaer, IN 47978
Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212

Cell 219-863-0678

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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Josh Bowsher]

Thanks for all the input guys I really appreciate ittime to compare options 
and pricing :)

Regards,

Joshua S. Bowsher
Director of Internet Services
Midwaynet.net
Midway Electronics
NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
1250 N McKinley Ave
Rensselaer, IN 47978
Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
Cell 219-863-0678

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 10:35 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting


I talked with Ikano for this.  They didn't really come back with an answer so I 
took it as a "No thank you".

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 5, 2014 11:33 AM, "Jim Patient" 
mailto:jpati...@linktechs.net>> wrote:
Hey Josh,

You were going to check with google back on 10/24/13 to see if they were 
interested in becoming a WISPA vendor member.  Any update on this?

Jim

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org>] On 
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:26 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

https://sites.google.com/a/corp.ikano.com/google-apps-partner-edition-corp/


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Josh Reynolds 
mailto:j...@spitwspots.com>> wrote:
http://www.google.com/enterprise/apps/business/pricing.html

$50/user/year

Josh Reynolds
Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS
j...@spitwspots.com<mailto:j...@spitwspots.com> | 
www.spitwspots.com<http://www.spitwspots.com>
On 03/04/2014 02:01 PM, Josh Bowsher wrote:
Cost per domain or mailbox? I have several domains.

Regards,

Joshua S. Bowsher
Director of Internet Services
Midwaynet.net
Midway Electronics
NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
1250 N McKinley Ave
Rensselaer, IN 47978
Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
Cell 219-863-0678

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From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org<mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org> 
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:01 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

google apps for your domain.

easy peasy..never looked back after switching 8 or 9 years ago :-)

-sean

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Josh Bowsher 
mailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net>> wrote:
Who is everyone using for outsourced server hosting/management (Windows or 
Linux Servers running SQL, Radius, Billing software) and hosted mail service? 
All input is appreciated.

Regards,

Joshua S. Bowsher
Director of Internet Services
Midwaynet.net
Midway Electronics
NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
1250 N McKinley Ave
Rensselaer, IN 47978
Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
Cell 219-863-0678

www.midwaynet.net<http://www.midwaynet.net

Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Matt]

> we started when it was in early beta so we are grandfathered into a free
> account.

I think many eons ago I did too but never did much of anything after
getting the confirmation email which I cannot find back.  Does the
free account still have advertising though?

> as josh pointed out there is an ISP edition for .35 a user...very much worth
> it!
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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Justin Wilson]

Talk to Scott LePere at On Ramp Indiana.

Justin

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From:  Josh Bowsher 
Reply-To:  WISPA General List 
Date:  Tuesday, March 4, 2014 at 5:49 PM
To:  "WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org)" 
Subject:  [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

> Who is everyone using for outsourced server hosting/management (Windows or
> Linux Servers running SQL, Radius, Billing software) and hosted mail service?
> All input is appreciated.
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Joshua S. Bowsher
> Director of Internet Services
> Midwaynet.net
> Midway Electronics
> NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
> 1250 N McKinley Ave
> Rensselaer, IN 47978
> Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
> Cell 219-863-0678
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Josh Luthman]

I talked with Ikano for this.  They didn't really come back with an answer
so I took it as a "No thank you".

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 5, 2014 11:33 AM, "Jim Patient"  wrote:

> Hey Josh,
>
>
>
> You were going to check with google back on 10/24/13 to see if they were
> interested in becoming a WISPA vendor member.  Any update on this?
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:26 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
>
>
>
> https://sites.google.com/a/corp.ikano.com/google-apps-partner-edition-corp/
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:
>
> http://www.google.com/enterprise/apps/business/pricing.html
>
> $50/user/year
>
>
>
> *Josh Reynolds*
> Chief Information Officer
> SPITwSPOTS
> j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com
>
> On 03/04/2014 02:01 PM, Josh Bowsher wrote:
>
> Cost per domain or mailbox? I have several domains.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Joshua S. Bowsher
>
> Director of Internet Services
> Midwaynet.net
>
> Midway Electronics
>
> NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
> 1250 N McKinley Ave
> Rensselaer, IN 47978
> Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
>
> Cell 219-863-0678
>
> www.midwaynet.net
>
> jbows...@midwaynet.net
>
>
>
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>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:01 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
>
>
>
> google apps for your domain.
>
>
>
> easy peasy..never looked back after switching 8 or 9 years ago :-)
>
>
>
> -sean
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Josh Bowsher 
> wrote:
>
> Who is everyone using for outsourced server hosting/management (Windows or
> Linux Servers running SQL, Radius, Billing software) and hosted mail
> service? All input is appreciated.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Joshua S. Bowsher
>
> Director of Internet Services
> Midwaynet.net
>
> Midway Electronics
>
> NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
> 1250 N McKinley Ave
> Rensselaer, IN 47978
> Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
>
> Cell 219-863-0678
>
> www.midwaynet.net
>
> jbows...@midwaynet.net
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Jim Patient]

Hey Josh,

 

You were going to check with google back on 10/24/13 to see if they were
interested in becoming a WISPA vendor member.  Any update on this? 

 

Jim

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On
Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:26 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

 

https://sites.google.com/a/corp.ikano.com/google-apps-partner-edition-co
rp/





Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Josh Reynolds 
wrote:

http://www.google.com/enterprise/apps/business/pricing.html

$50/user/year

 

Josh Reynolds
Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS
j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com

On 03/04/2014 02:01 PM, Josh Bowsher wrote:

Cost per domain or mailbox? I have several domains.

 

Regards,

 

Joshua S. Bowsher

Director of Internet Services
Midwaynet.net

Midway Electronics

NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
1250 N McKinley Ave
Rensselaer, IN 47978
Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212  

Cell 219-863-0678

www.midwaynet.net <http://www.midwaynet.net/> 

jbows...@midwaynet.net 

 

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or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not
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Electronics, or NWIIS a division of MidwayNet.

 

From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org
[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:01 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

 

google apps for your domain.

 

easy peasy..never looked back after switching 8 or 9 years ago
:-)

 

-sean

 

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Josh Bowsher
 wrote:

Who is everyone using for outsourced server hosting/management
(Windows or Linux Servers running SQL, Radius, Billing software) and
hosted mail service? All input is appreciated.

 

Regards,

 

Joshua S. Bowsher

Director of Internet Services
Midwaynet.net

Midway Electronics

NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
1250 N McKinley Ave
Rensselaer, IN 47978
Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212  

Cell 219-863-0678

www.midwaynet.net <http://www.midwaynet.net/> 

jbows...@midwaynet.net 

 

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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Todd Mitchell]

http://www.google.com/intx/en/enterprise/apps/business/landing/partners/resellers/
 On Mar 4, 2014 7:34 PM, "Tim Kerns"  wrote:

>   When I try to access it, I get redirected to Ikano and mail is not one
> of their listed products...
>
>
> can someone clarify, please...
>
> Thanks
>
>
>  *From:* Sean Heskett 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:10 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List 
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
>
>  we started when it was in early beta so we are grandfathered into a free
> account.
>
> as josh pointed out there is an ISP edition for .35 a user...very much
> worth it!
>
> -sean
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Josh Bowsher wrote:
>
>>  Cost per domain or mailbox? I have several domains.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Joshua S. Bowsher
>>
>> Director of Internet Services
>> Midwaynet.net
>>
>> Midway Electronics
>>
>> NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
>> 1250 N McKinley Ave
>> Rensselaer, IN 47978
>> Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
>>
>> Cell 219-863-0678
>>
>> www.midwaynet.net
>>
>> jbows...@midwaynet.net
>>
>>
>>
>> This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL
>> information and is meant solely for the intended recipient. It contains
>> controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is protected under
>> applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any unauthorized third party.
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>> unauthorized review, action, disclosure, distribution, or reproduction of
>> any information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly
>> PROHIBITED. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to the
>> sender immediately, and delete all copies of this e-mail and attachments
>> without disclosing the contents. Any views or opinions expressed are solely
>> those of the author and do not necessarily represent the exact position of
>> MidwayNet, LLC, Midway Electronics, or NWIIS a division of MidwayNet.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:01 PM
>> *To:* WISPA General List
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
>>
>>
>>
>> google apps for your domain.
>>
>>
>>
>> easy peasy..never looked back after switching 8 or 9 years ago :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> -sean
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Josh Bowsher 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Who is everyone using for outsourced server hosting/management (Windows
>> or Linux Servers running SQL, Radius, Billing software) and hosted mail
>> service? All input is appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Joshua S. Bowsher
>>
>> Director of Internet Services
>> Midwaynet.net
>>
>> Midway Electronics
>>
>> NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
>> 1250 N McKinley Ave
>> Rensselaer, IN 47978
>> Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212 <219-866-7946%20ext%3A%20212>
>>
>> Cell 219-863-0678
>>
>> www.midwaynet.net
>>
>> jbows...@midwaynet.net
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Josh Luthman]

Use my link?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 4, 2014 8:34 PM, "Tim Kerns"  wrote:

>   When I try to access it, I get redirected to Ikano and mail is not one
> of their listed products...
>
>
> can someone clarify, please...
>
> Thanks
>
>
>  *From:* Sean Heskett 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:10 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List 
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
>
>  we started when it was in early beta so we are grandfathered into a free
> account.
>
> as josh pointed out there is an ISP edition for .35 a user...very much
> worth it!
>
> -sean
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Josh Bowsher wrote:
>
>>  Cost per domain or mailbox? I have several domains.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Joshua S. Bowsher
>>
>> Director of Internet Services
>> Midwaynet.net
>>
>> Midway Electronics
>>
>> NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
>> 1250 N McKinley Ave
>> Rensselaer, IN 47978
>> Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
>>
>> Cell 219-863-0678
>>
>> www.midwaynet.net
>>
>> jbows...@midwaynet.net
>>
>>
>>
>> This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL
>> information and is meant solely for the intended recipient. It contains
>> controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is protected under
>> applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any unauthorized third party.
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>> unauthorized review, action, disclosure, distribution, or reproduction of
>> any information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly
>> PROHIBITED. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to the
>> sender immediately, and delete all copies of this e-mail and attachments
>> without disclosing the contents. Any views or opinions expressed are solely
>> those of the author and do not necessarily represent the exact position of
>> MidwayNet, LLC, Midway Electronics, or NWIIS a division of MidwayNet.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:01 PM
>> *To:* WISPA General List
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
>>
>>
>>
>> google apps for your domain.
>>
>>
>>
>> easy peasy..never looked back after switching 8 or 9 years ago :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> -sean
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Josh Bowsher 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Who is everyone using for outsourced server hosting/management (Windows
>> or Linux Servers running SQL, Radius, Billing software) and hosted mail
>> service? All input is appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Joshua S. Bowsher
>>
>> Director of Internet Services
>> Midwaynet.net
>>
>> Midway Electronics
>>
>> NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
>> 1250 N McKinley Ave
>> Rensselaer, IN 47978
>> Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212 <219-866-7946%20ext%3A%20212>
>>
>> Cell 219-863-0678
>>
>> www.midwaynet.net
>>
>> jbows...@midwaynet.net
>>
>>
>>
>> This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL
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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Tim Kerns]

When I try to access it, I get redirected to Ikano and mail is not one of their 
listed products...


can someone clarify, please...

Thanks


From: Sean Heskett 
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:10 PM
To: WISPA General List 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

we started when it was in early beta so we are grandfathered into a free 
account. 

as josh pointed out there is an ISP edition for .35 a user...very much worth it!

-sean




On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Josh Bowsher  wrote:

  Cost per domain or mailbox? I have several domains…..



  Regards,



  Joshua S. Bowsher

  Director of Internet Services
  Midwaynet.net

  Midway Electronics

  NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
  1250 N McKinley Ave
  Rensselaer, IN 47978
  Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212

  Cell 219-863-0678

  www.midwaynet.net

  jbows...@midwaynet.net 



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represent the exact position of MidwayNet, LLC, Midway Electronics, or NWIIS a 
division of MidwayNet.





  From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
Behalf Of Sean Heskett
  Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:01 PM
  To: WISPA General List
  Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting



  google apps for your domain.



  easy peasy..never looked back after switching 8 or 9 years ago :-)



  -sean



  On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Josh Bowsher  wrote:

  Who is everyone using for outsourced server hosting/management (Windows or 
Linux Servers running SQL, Radius, Billing software) and hosted mail service? 
All input is appreciated.



  Regards,



  Joshua S. Bowsher

  Director of Internet Services
  Midwaynet.net

  Midway Electronics

  NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
  1250 N McKinley Ave
  Rensselaer, IN 47978
  Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212

  Cell 219-863-0678

  www.midwaynet.net

  jbows...@midwaynet.net 



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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Sean Heskett]

we started when it was in early beta so we are grandfathered into a free
account.

as josh pointed out there is an ISP edition for .35 a user...very much
worth it!

-sean



On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 4:01 PM, Josh Bowsher  wrote:

> Cost per domain or mailbox? I have several domains.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Joshua S. Bowsher
>
> Director of Internet Services
> Midwaynet.net
>
> Midway Electronics
>
> NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
> 1250 N McKinley Ave
> Rensselaer, IN 47978
> Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
>
> Cell 219-863-0678
>
> www.midwaynet.net
>
> jbows...@midwaynet.net
>
>
>
> This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL
> information and is meant solely for the intended recipient. It contains
> controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is protected under
> applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any unauthorized third party.
> If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any
> unauthorized review, action, disclosure, distribution, or reproduction of
> any information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly
> PROHIBITED. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to the
> sender immediately, and delete all copies of this e-mail and attachments
> without disclosing the contents. Any views or opinions expressed are solely
> those of the author and do not necessarily represent the exact position of
> MidwayNet, LLC, Midway Electronics, or NWIIS a division of MidwayNet.
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:01 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
>
>
>
> google apps for your domain.
>
>
>
> easy peasy..never looked back after switching 8 or 9 years ago :-)
>
>
>
> -sean
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Josh Bowsher 
> wrote:
>
> Who is everyone using for outsourced server hosting/management (Windows or
> Linux Servers running SQL, Radius, Billing software) and hosted mail
> service? All input is appreciated.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Joshua S. Bowsher
>
> Director of Internet Services
> Midwaynet.net
>
> Midway Electronics
>
> NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
> 1250 N McKinley Ave
> Rensselaer, IN 47978
> Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
>
> Cell 219-863-0678
>
> www.midwaynet.net
>
> jbows...@midwaynet.net
>
>
>
> This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL
> information and is meant solely for the intended recipient. It contains
> controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is protected under
> applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any unauthorized third party.
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> unauthorized review, action, disclosure, distribution, or reproduction of
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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Josh Reynolds]

Very nice, thanks

*Josh Reynolds*
Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS
j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com

On 03/04/2014 02:26 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

https://sites.google.com/a/corp.ikano.com/google-apps-partner-edition-corp/


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Josh Reynolds <mailto:j...@spitwspots.com>> wrote:


http://www.google.com/enterprise/apps/business/pricing.html

$50/user/year

*Josh Reynolds*
Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS
j...@spitwspots.com <mailto:j...@spitwspots.com> |
www.spitwspots.com <http://www.spitwspots.com>

On 03/04/2014 02:01 PM, Josh Bowsher wrote:


Cost per domain or mailbox? I have several domains.

Regards,

Joshua S. Bowsher

Director of Internet Services
Midwaynet.net

Midway Electronics

NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
1250 N McKinley Ave
Rensselaer, IN 47978
Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212 

Cell 219-863-0678 

www.midwaynet.net <http://www.midwaynet.net/>

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[mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:01 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

google apps for your domain.

easy peasy..never looked back after switching 8 or 9 years ago :-)

-sean

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Josh Bowsher
mailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net>> wrote:

Who is everyone using for outsourced server hosting/management
(Windows or Linux Servers running SQL, Radius, Billing software)
and hosted mail service? All input is appreciated.

Regards,

Joshua S. Bowsher

Director of Internet Services
Midwaynet.net

Midway Electronics

NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
1250 N McKinley Ave
Rensselaer, IN 47978
Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212 

Cell 219-863-0678 

www.midwaynet.net <http://www.midwaynet.net/>

jbows...@midwaynet.net <mailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net>

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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Josh Luthman]

https://sites.google.com/a/corp.ikano.com/google-apps-partner-edition-corp/


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

>  http://www.google.com/enterprise/apps/business/pricing.html
>
> $50/user/year
>
>  *Josh Reynolds*
> Chief Information Officer
> SPITwSPOTS
> j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com
>   On 03/04/2014 02:01 PM, Josh Bowsher wrote:
>
>  Cost per domain or mailbox? I have several domains.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Joshua S. Bowsher
>
> Director of Internet Services
> Midwaynet.net
>
> Midway Electronics
>
> NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
> 1250 N McKinley Ave
> Rensselaer, IN 47978
> Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
>
> Cell 219-863-0678
>
> www.midwaynet.net
>
> jbows...@midwaynet.net
>
>
>
> This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL
> information and is meant solely for the intended recipient. It contains
> controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is protected under
> applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any unauthorized third party.
> If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any
> unauthorized review, action, disclosure, distribution, or reproduction of
> any information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly
> PROHIBITED. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to the
> sender immediately, and delete all copies of this e-mail and attachments
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> those of the author and do not necessarily represent the exact position of
> MidwayNet, LLC, Midway Electronics, or NWIIS a division of MidwayNet.
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:01 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
>
>
>
> google apps for your domain.
>
>
>
> easy peasy..never looked back after switching 8 or 9 years ago :-)
>
>
>
> -sean
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Josh Bowsher 
> wrote:
>
> Who is everyone using for outsourced server hosting/management (Windows or
> Linux Servers running SQL, Radius, Billing software) and hosted mail
> service? All input is appreciated.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Joshua S. Bowsher
>
> Director of Internet Services
> Midwaynet.net
>
> Midway Electronics
>
> NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
> 1250 N McKinley Ave
> Rensselaer, IN 47978
> Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
>
> Cell 219-863-0678
>
> www.midwaynet.net
>
> jbows...@midwaynet.net
>
>
>
> This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL
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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Chuck Hogg]

If you want to outsource for your ISP, they have a partner edition that is
~.35/user or less.

Regards,
Chuck


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 6:06 PM, Josh Reynolds  wrote:

>  http://www.google.com/enterprise/apps/business/pricing.html
>
> $50/user/year
>
>  *Josh Reynolds*
> Chief Information Officer
> SPITwSPOTS
> j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com
>   On 03/04/2014 02:01 PM, Josh Bowsher wrote:
>
>  Cost per domain or mailbox? I have several domains.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Joshua S. Bowsher
>
> Director of Internet Services
> Midwaynet.net
>
> Midway Electronics
>
> NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
> 1250 N McKinley Ave
> Rensselaer, IN 47978
> Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
>
> Cell 219-863-0678
>
> www.midwaynet.net
>
> jbows...@midwaynet.net
>
>
>
> This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL
> information and is meant solely for the intended recipient. It contains
> controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is protected under
> applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any unauthorized third party.
> If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any
> unauthorized review, action, disclosure, distribution, or reproduction of
> any information contained in this e-mail and any attachments is strictly
> PROHIBITED. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to the
> sender immediately, and delete all copies of this e-mail and attachments
> without disclosing the contents. Any views or opinions expressed are solely
> those of the author and do not necessarily represent the exact position of
> MidwayNet, LLC, Midway Electronics, or NWIIS a division of MidwayNet.
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:01 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting
>
>
>
> google apps for your domain.
>
>
>
> easy peasy..never looked back after switching 8 or 9 years ago :-)
>
>
>
> -sean
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Josh Bowsher 
> wrote:
>
> Who is everyone using for outsourced server hosting/management (Windows or
> Linux Servers running SQL, Radius, Billing software) and hosted mail
> service? All input is appreciated.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Joshua S. Bowsher
>
> Director of Internet Services
> Midwaynet.net
>
> Midway Electronics
>
> NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
> 1250 N McKinley Ave
> Rensselaer, IN 47978
> Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
>
> Cell 219-863-0678
>
> www.midwaynet.net
>
> jbows...@midwaynet.net
>
>
>
> This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL
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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Josh Reynolds]

http://www.google.com/enterprise/apps/business/pricing.html

$50/user/year

*Josh Reynolds*
Chief Information Officer
SPITwSPOTS
j...@spitwspots.com | www.spitwspots.com

On 03/04/2014 02:01 PM, Josh Bowsher wrote:


Cost per domain or mailbox? I have several domains.

Regards,

Joshua S. Bowsher

Director of Internet Services
Midwaynet.net

Midway Electronics

NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
1250 N McKinley Ave
Rensselaer, IN 47978
Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212

Cell 219-863-0678

www.midwaynet.net <http://www.midwaynet.net/>

jbows...@midwaynet.net <mailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net>

This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL 
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are hereby notified that any unauthorized review, action, disclosure, 
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this e-mail in error, please reply to the sender immediately, and 
delete all copies of this e-mail and attachments without disclosing 
the contents. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the 
author and do not necessarily represent the exact position of 
MidwayNet, LLC, Midway Electronics, or NWIIS a division of MidwayNet.


*From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] 
*On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett

*Sent:* Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:01 PM
*To:* WISPA General List
*Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

google apps for your domain.

easy peasy..never looked back after switching 8 or 9 years ago :-)

-sean

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Josh Bowsher <mailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net>> wrote:


Who is everyone using for outsourced server hosting/management 
(Windows or Linux Servers running SQL, Radius, Billing software) and 
hosted mail service? All input is appreciated.


Regards,

Joshua S. Bowsher

Director of Internet Services
Midwaynet.net

Midway Electronics

NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
1250 N McKinley Ave
Rensselaer, IN 47978
Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212 

Cell 219-863-0678 

www.midwaynet.net <http://www.midwaynet.net/>

jbows...@midwaynet.net <mailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net>

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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Josh Bowsher]

Cost per domain or mailbox? I have several domains.

Regards,

Joshua S. Bowsher
Director of Internet Services
Midwaynet.net
Midway Electronics
NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
1250 N McKinley Ave
Rensselaer, IN 47978
Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
Cell 219-863-0678

www.midwaynet.net<http://www.midwaynet.net/>
jbows...@midwaynet.net<mailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net>

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exact position of MidwayNet, LLC, Midway Electronics, or NWIIS a division of 
MidwayNet.


From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf 
Of Sean Heskett
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 5:01 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

google apps for your domain.

easy peasy..never looked back after switching 8 or 9 years ago :-)

-sean

On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Josh Bowsher 
mailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net>> wrote:
Who is everyone using for outsourced server hosting/management (Windows or 
Linux Servers running SQL, Radius, Billing software) and hosted mail service? 
All input is appreciated.

Regards,

Joshua S. Bowsher
Director of Internet Services
Midwaynet.net
Midway Electronics
NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
1250 N McKinley Ave
Rensselaer, IN 47978
Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
Cell 219-863-0678

www.midwaynet.net<http://www.midwaynet.net/>
jbows...@midwaynet.net<mailto:jbows...@midwaynet.net>

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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Sean Heskett]

google apps for your domain.

easy peasy..never looked back after switching 8 or 9 years ago :-)

-sean


On Tue, Mar 4, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Josh Bowsher  wrote:

> Who is everyone using for outsourced server hosting/management (Windows or
> Linux Servers running SQL, Radius, Billing software) and hosted mail
> service? All input is appreciated.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Joshua S. Bowsher
>
> Director of Internet Services
> Midwaynet.net
>
> Midway Electronics
>
> NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
> 1250 N McKinley Ave
> Rensselaer, IN 47978
> Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
>
> Cell 219-863-0678
>
> www.midwaynet.net
>
> jbows...@midwaynet.net
>
>
>
> This e-mail, including all attachments may contain CONFIDENTIAL
> information and is meant solely for the intended recipient. It contains
> controlled, privileged, or proprietary information that is protected under
> applicable law and shall not be disclosed to any unauthorized third party.
> If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any
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> PROHIBITED. If you received this e-mail in error, please reply to the
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[WISPA] Outsourced Server and mail hosting

[Josh Bowsher]

Who is everyone using for outsourced server hosting/management (Windows or 
Linux Servers running SQL, Radius, Billing software) and hosted mail service? 
All input is appreciated.

Regards,

Joshua S. Bowsher
Director of Internet Services
Midwaynet.net
Midway Electronics
NWIIS a division of MidwayNet, LLC
1250 N McKinley Ave
Rensselaer, IN 47978
Office 219-866-7946 ext: 212
Cell 219-863-0678

www.midwaynet.net
jbows...@midwaynet.net

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