RE: [WSG] HTML/CSS reference
Chris wrote: On Wed, 6 Apr 2011, Kevin Ireson wrote: Oh come on. Surely you cannot dispute http://www.w3schools.com/ for the basics. Even after all of these years. The fundamental concepts work. I wouldn't trust w3schools.com (note that it has nothing to do with the W3C) after looking at their HTML tutorial: http://cfajohnson.com/torontowebdesign/w3schools/ You say (on that page): The alt attribute is mandatory, not just good practice. It's not, you know. For decorative images, it's not even recommended. Kerry --- This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies of this transmission along with any attachments immediately. You should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. --- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] HTML/CSS reference
On 4/5/11 7:31 PM, Webb, KerryA wrote: You say (on that page): The alt attribute is mandatory, not just good practice. It's not, you know. For decorative images, it's not even recommended. via http://www.w3.org/TR/html401/struct/objects.html#edef-IMG -- src %URI; #REQUIRED -- URI of image to embed -- alt %Text; #REQUIRED -- short description -- Learning to read the specs should be encouraged, I'd say. I stand corrected. Kerry --- This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies of this transmission along with any attachments immediately. You should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. --- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] PDF Conversion
Dave Lane: Thanks for asking those questions, Russ, and checking with users of assistive technologies. I also wondered how moving from an open standard to a proprietary one would help anyone with anything... Perhaps because not everyone would agree with Russ' blind user, and they might have a setup that can handle Word better than PDF. For those who might not be aware of it, current Australian government requirements mandate that PDFs should not be published on their own, but should be accompanied by an accessible equivalent. Kerry -- Kerry Webb Manager Policy Office | InTACT Shared Services | ACT Government --- This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies of this transmission along with any attachments immediately. You should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. --- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] PDF Conversion
Dave wrote: On 09/02/11 16:55, Russ Weakley wrote: Hi Kerry. Neither the blind user or I were suggesting that alternatives were not a good idea, or even a requirement. I'd always recommend providing an HTML alternative if possible along with accessible (tagged) PDF. The question was about Word as as a viable alternative to PDF. I am not sure it is. Though others may disagree! I'm not an accessibility expert, but it seems pretty obvious that if the PDF isn't well structured (which would presumably make it more accessible), I can't imagine that converting it to an MS Word document will add any sensible structure that wasn't there before. Neither am I an accessibility expert, but I'm of necessity taking more interest in it these days. There are a number of reasons - not just about structure - why a blind user might have trouble with a PDF. An MS Word (or an RTF) document may be a more accessible alternative to a PDF. Using standards compliant HTML as an alternative accessible standard makes much more sense (again, assuming the source document wasn't generated from your typical poorly structured MS Word document). And few Web managers will find the time and resources to create a readable standards compliant HTML version of a multi-multi-page PDF, whereas a Word document will in many cases be more doable. Kerry --- This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies of this transmission along with any attachments immediately. You should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. --- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] XHTML or HTML?
On 10 Nov 2010, at 22:34, cat soul wrote: Any thoughts on which we ought to be using HTML, since it works in IE 9 without having to pretend it is HTML. 4.01, since it is a stable recommendation with mature QA tools (unless you have a need for features added in HTML5 and are willing to life on the bleeding edge) Strict, unless you need something only offered by Transitional (in which case think twice as not being in Strict is a clue that you probably shouldn't use something). , and what information ought to be up at top of an HTML page, along with !DOCTYPE, etc? Title is mandatory. Meta charset if you think people are more likely to view a locally saved copy of the document than a copy that has gone through a transcoding proxy. Links to any stylesheets. Scripts that need to run before the page has finished loading. And, as specified by WCAG 2.0, the lang attribute in the HTML tag. Kerry --- This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies of this transmission along with any attachments immediately. You should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. --- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] Accessibility in Australia
From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Sue Choong Sent: Friday, 6 August 2010 9:31 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] Accessibility in Australia Is it mandatory for all australian websites to be accessible or does this only apply to government websites? Just a little confused after reading article below which only mentioned government sites. Http://bit.ly/dddhz8 That link didn't come through, so here's a general answer. If a person regards a site as having an accessibility problem (whether the site is in the public or private sector) they are entitled to complain to the Australian Human Rights Commission, who may require the site to be made more accessible. If the site owner refuses to do this, they may be required to pay a financial penalty - as was the case with SOCOG when Bruce Maguire laid his complaint before the Sydney Olympics. The operative legislation is the Commonwealth Disability Discrimination ACT 1992. see http://www.hreoc.gov.au/disability_rights/standards/www_3/www_3.html Kerry *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org *** --- This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies of this transmission along with any attachments immediately. You should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. --- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] NPO web standards guidelines in Australia?
Nedlud wrote: Hi people, I see that the Australian government has required all government agency web sites to be WCAG 2.0 compliant by 2015. http://webpublishing.agimo.gov.au/Accessibility I work for a non profit organisation that receives government funding, but I am unaware of our legal obligation to accessibility. Obviously we have a moral obligation, but I'd like to be able to see some legal guidelines. Any pointers? Try http://www.hreoc.gov.au/disability_rights/standards/www_3/www_3.html which governs all sites - government, commercial and private. The simple answer is that you aren't going to go to jail for creating an inaccessible site, but that if someone makes a complaint you may be required to fix it. Kerry (responsible for Web Standards with the ACT Government) --- This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies of this transmission along with any attachments immediately. You should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. --- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] NPO web standards guidelines in Australia?
Jason wrote: Please note that whilst you may not go to jail for failing to provide accessibility aspects and compliance within a website, you may be held responsible and found negligent and be required to pay compensation as directed by a court of law. Ref case : Maguire vs. SOCOG http://www.hreoc.gov.au/disability_rights/decisions/comdec/Maguire%20v%20SOCOG3.htm http://contenu.nu/socog.html If you choose not to fix it. Sure. Kerry --- This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies of this transmission along with any attachments immediately. You should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. --- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] FINAL VERSION OF MY SITE
At 2/3/2010 02:47 PM, Marvin Hunkin wrote: http://www.raulferrer.com/joe/html/ You should check the Top of page links on the Recipes page. They each seem to go to the start of the previous recipe rather than to the top of the Web page. Kerry --- This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies of this transmission along with any attachments immediately. You should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. --- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] web style guide
Lucien wrote: Hi there, I need to write a web style guide for our web site. Does anyone know of any good examples I could draw inspiration from? You'll find a lot of government guides online, such as http://webpublishing.agimo.gov.au/ or http://www.intact.act.gov.au/Website_Development_Mgt_Standard.doc Kerry --- This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies of this transmission along with any attachments immediately. You should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. --- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] The 'Some Links for Light Reading' posts
I find that Russ's list and that of Laura Carlson usually provide something useful each week. thanks Kerry --- This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies of this transmission along with any attachments immediately. You should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. --- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] accessibility: government
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 4:40 AM, Lucl...@dzinelabs.com wrote: Good afternoon list, Does anybody know if their exists a list of what is required in terms of accessibility features for each country (governments)? -- Regards, Luc Hi Luc, here in Australia we have a couple of pieces of legislation, the main one being the Disability Discrimination Act - there is a guide to it at http://hreoc.gov.au/disability_rights/dda_guide/dda_guide.htm There are some Better Practice Guidelines that touch on a lot of accessibility issues (amongst others) at http://www.finance.gov.au/e-government/better-practice-and- collaboration/better-practice-checklists/index.html Others may wish to add to the list above. To add to Andrew's response, it's not clear if you're asking for general requirements legislated by governments (of all sites) or just for the requirements for government websites. In either case, many countries have multiple levels of government (national, state/province, local) and each level can have its own rules. Kerry (which I work for a state/local govt, and that makes it even more exciting) --- This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies of this transmission along with any attachments immediately. You should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. --- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] accessible free web hosting account
Andrew Stewart said: It is clear that a publicly funded website like that for the Olympic Games should be accessible, but are you suggesting that the same rules should apply to a high-school student doing a website for a school project? - again another tough line to draw. The scale of the internet means that the Australian laws will only have a very small impact on the internet as a whole. The way the law is written is that a person has been entitled to lodge a complaint with the Australian Human Rights Commission if they find a site inaccessible, be it SOCOG or the high school student's. Arbitration would ensue. More recently though the legislation has been amended so that a complainant can take a case directly to the state/territory Supreme Court. So, you won't go to jail for having an inaccessible site, but you could be required by the Court to make it accessible, as SOCOG was. But as previous poster Andrew said, it's the right thing to do. That's a good rule to follow. Kerry --- This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies of this transmission along with any attachments immediately. You should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. --- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: # Re: [WSG] Beta Testers Needed for BCAT
-Original Message- From: li...@webstandardsgroup.org [mailto:li...@webstandardsgroup.org] On Behalf Of Matt Morgan-May Sent: Wednesday, 14 January 2009 6:43 AM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: # Re: [WSG] Beta Testers Needed for BCAT Adobe could do a better job, the makers of assistive technology could do a better job Great. I'm all ears. What should we do? So far, the impression that I get is that we should give up. Don't give up, just enable Accessibility as the default option at the factory. I attended a presentation recently by an Adobe employee and this question was asked twice and he ignored it twice. Kerry --- This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies of this transmission along with any attachments immediately. You should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. --- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: memberh...@webstandardsgroup.org ***
RE: [WSG] Re: Searching for standards information
Michael wrote: If you were to be prosecuted the court (or more likely HREOC/Administrative Appeals Tribunal before it got to court) would consider what measures could be taken without imposing undue hardship upon the service provider to ensure that equitable access is available to people regardless of their disability. A brief addition to this: starting next January, anyone (not just HREOC/AHRC) will have the right to take an action to their state/territory Supreme Court if they feel that they've been discriminated against. Kerry --- This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies of this transmission along with any attachments immediately. You should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. --- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Flash replace Javascript in Future?
Johan Douma wrote: Flash is on 99.9% of the computers. Which is the sort of claim made often by Adobe. But, if we're talking about a recent version of Flash on 99.9% of computers, that's a different matter. Kerry --- This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies of this transmission along with any attachments immediately. You should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. --- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Google chrome... Accessibility coming very soon???
Adam wrote: Hey guys... it is great that talk about accessibility and chrome has been raised - but I do think that we need to wait until it is out of beta. Isn't that what beta is for - to get feedback for further development? And Gmail is still in beta after several years. Kerry --- This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies of this transmission along with any attachments immediately. You should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. --- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Full flash websites
Michael MD wrote: also - don't assume everyone's browser has flash player. eg: mobile phones - some of the more recent models *might* have a mobile flash player ... which btw might handle flash 6 content! - ok maybe an iPhone can do better .. but honestly how many of those do you see about? ... phone models more than about two years old? ... forget it! Not to mention some corporate environments that are locked down. Ours has an older version of Flash as our standard, and there are a number of sites that won't display and we are invited to download the newer version - ha! Kerry --- This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies of this transmission along with any attachments immediately. You should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. --- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] WCAG 2 implementation site
Matt wrote: I also like the way you have not gone with the basic skip to content link and gone with a quick skip to menu, I have been advocating a similar approach that integrates access key's into these menu's as well. Is there a reason for not using 'accesskey' at all? I'm not Mike, but I'll observe that access keys are not universally admired. Kerry --- This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies of this transmission along with any attachments immediately. You should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. --- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] CMS review
Alysia wrote: Hello. I have just discovered this australian based company Powerfront. I am really interested in some feedback. Here is an example website which I think is pretty good http://www.goodshepvic.org.au/ It prompts you to download Flash 9 - which people on locked-down computers may not be able to do - and doesn't let you know what happens if you don't do it. I don't think that's pretty good. Lots of empty ALT attributes, for non-decorative elements. Text size is not adjustable in IE6. Kerry --- This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies of this transmission along with any attachments immediately. You should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. --- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] SIte Maps?
Andrew wrote: Jermayn, That one person may find the sitemap useful does not mean that the site navigation is broken - all that we do know for sure is that one person likes to use the sitemap. If everyone uses the sitemap, then the navigation could well use some work. Similarly - if some internal users find a browse facet based on the organisational structure helpful, it doesn't mean that it should be removed. Org structure shouldn't be the only browse facet, sure, but it can be one of them. There aren't any rules. It's a matter of how far you want to go. Some people may even choose to have a full site index of words and phrases. The important thing, I believe, is that if you start off with a site map you should keep it up to date. Many CMS do this, but it's a harder task when the site map is hand coded. Kerry --- This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies of this transmission along with any attachments immediately. You should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. --- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Cost of Accessibility
Christie wrote: . . . It's very, very difficult to defend the Target site, it's an unusable mess so I don't use it, but Target does have the right to have a bad site. Not if they lose this case, they don't. Kerry --- This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies of this transmission along with any attachments immediately. You should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. --- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] How many of us are public and how many private?
John asked: So I wonder, how many people on this list are in the commercial sector and how many are in the non-profit / public / government / education sector? More importantly, how would you classify yourself g Kerry (ACT Government) --- This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies of this transmission along with any attachments immediately. You should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. --- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: please avoid forcing people to open pdf in browser! was Re: [WSG] To target or not
Jermayn wrote: I work at one of the those government places that has those horrible pdfs scattered through out all their horrible pages. I couldnt agree more. And I work with people who build such sites, and I don't have a problem with PDFs per se. If that's an efficient and effective way to publish a document, let them do it - providing the PDF is properly marked up. Kerry --- This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies of this transmission along with any attachments immediately. You should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. --- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] Navigation link not working in some browsers
Lyn asked: www.colouru.com.au There is a very strange instance of a navigation link not working on one particular page - the products.html page link back to HOME. All other pages seem to be OK. It does work in IE and Opera but not in FX or Safari. Can anyone see why this should be so? Thanks. I have the same trouble. OK in IE but not in Firefox (2.0.0.4 on XP), where it doesn't even show up as a link. Kerry --- This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies of this transmission along with any attachments immediately. You should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. --- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] ABC News Online have a new website
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Ottery ditto - love it. an amazing achievement to get that up and out. i particularly like the nice little attention to detail like the css hovers/icons on the links and the inline video. the video section itself is hot too - the my playlist thing is very slick. although the play playlist link could scream out a bit more. someone out there on the list must have been involved :) surely give us the goss about how it went/is going. congrats. I think the inclusion of the postcodes in the tags is a little clunky, and not very intuitive. I'm still getting used to the new format. Kerry --- This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies of this transmission along with any attachments immediately. You should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. --- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] wa state guidlines question
Jermayn asked: and Kerry, how do you make the pdf accessible??? There are some pointers here http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/pdfs/CreateAccessibleAdvanced.pdf Kerry (noting the accessibility is relative, not absolute - so probably I should have said more accessible) --- This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies of this transmission along with any attachments immediately. You should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. --- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] wa state guidlines question
Nick wrote: I would disagree. I believe the pdf and word issue dates back to 1999 or so, when you needed to upgrade to the latest and greatest of JAWS at considerable cost to fully access pdfs. Things have changed in 8 years. Now you can access pdfs with almost any screenreader (that is less than 8 years old) and a free version of acrobat. For word documents you also need software to open it and the most common, word costs. While this is generally true, you need to remember that the creator of a PDF should do a few simple things to make it accessible. Most don't. Kerry -- Kerry Webb Policy Office InTACT x70239 --- This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies of this transmission along with any attachments immediately. You should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. --- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] what is semantic?
Naveen asked: Hi all. I would really appreciate if any tell me what is the term called semantic? It means relating to meaning. To give an example, some tags in HTML relate to presentation, like i or b but they don't really tell you anything about the meaning of the text that they refer to. They just show how the text is to be displayed. A tag like title or acronym relates to the semantic nature of the text - it tells you something about the text. Kerry --- This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies of this transmission along with any attachments immediately. You should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. --- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] What do we say if we don't say click?
John wrote: I'm looking at a design involving image thumbnails and the instruction to click images for larger version -- I have the idea that saying click is wrong, or rather the assumption that everyone is using a mouse is wrong. So, how would you word this instruction, or otherwise inform users that a small image links to a larger one? Images are linked to larger versions seems to passive-voice to me, and I can't think of any generic term for using a link. While it's true that not everybody will use a mouse (and some of these mouses will not have any auditory feedback), click is a well-understood term that shouldn't alienate any users. In my opinion. Kerry --- This email, and any attachments, may be confidential and also privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies of this transmission along with any attachments immediately. You should not copy or use it for any purpose, nor disclose its contents to any other person. --- *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
