Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500
Michel Dänzer wrote: Right, you need to make the server suid root to start it like that. No. Huh? I didn't ask a question... I meant It doesnt help Indeed, this doesn't show any real problem, sounds rather like a problem on the client side. PS: Please try Daniel Stone's 4.2.99.x debs and see if they also have the switching back to X problem. I will. thanks Dominik -- -- Dominik Szczerba, Dr. CO-ME, D-ITET, ETZ F85 ETH, Gloriastr. 35 CH-8092 Zurich http://www.vision.ee.ethz.ch/~domi -- ii swear i never use vi^[:wqZZ -- ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
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PS: Please try Daniel Stone's 4.2.99.x debs and see if they also have the switching back to X problem. I got stuck on dri source package. there is no info how to build it. i tried both make -f Makefile.linux, -f Makefile.kernel and sh buildpckg in debian sub-dir, they all produce ennormous amount of warnings and end up with an error. how do I go on? thansk Dominik ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
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PS: Please try Daniel Stone's 4.2.99.x debs and see if they also have the switching back to X problem. Daniel's packages dont have this problem. I can use Kevin's workaround now, I'm fine. Plz, how do I properly build radeon.o from his source package? ATM I use yours. I get 1.5kfps now (1.4 with yours) thanks a lot for the support Dominik -- -- Dominik Szczerba, Dr. CO-ME, D-ITET, ETZ F85 ETH, Gloriastr. 35 CH-8092 Zurich http://www.vision.ee.ethz.ch/~domi -- ii swear i never use vi^[:wqZZ -- ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
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Moreover, suspend works now even without going to console first! GREAT! Well, I have to re-plug the net cable, somehow ifplugd dies after suspend, but that's a minor worry. Thanks a lot! I'm way ahead of knoppix now! (pls still explain me how to build the drm source module, why doesnt it compile?) Dominik Dominik Szczerba wrote: PS: Please try Daniel Stone's 4.2.99.x debs and see if they also have the switching back to X problem. Daniel's packages dont have this problem. I can use Kevin's workaround now, I'm fine. Plz, how do I properly build radeon.o from his source package? ATM I use yours. I get 1.5kfps now (1.4 with yours) thanks a lot for the support Dominik ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500
On Son, 2003-02-23 at 08:37, Dominik Szczerba wrote: but then I have to forget about the full 4.3 as well, because I doubt it will be fixed there... :( Yes, unless someone finds out what the problem is and fixes it very soon. I copied X11R6 directory from knoppix to my hdd and startedx with it, and the problem is not there: I can get back to X from console. I cant debug the driver source, but I offer tests. But maybe it is something easy in the X's code, not the driver? I doubt it, but who knows. I'm not sure what would cause it to run normally (since you can zap it) but not display anything. Maybe someone else has an idea. I was thingking to have both wersions for tests. Both versions of what? of /usr/X11R6. Like I did with knoppix. I have 2 X11R6 directories now. Why? 4.2.1 was still there in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules . BTW. How do I chose yet now which version (dri-trunk or old) I start with startx? dri-trunk is the default, for the other one use startx -- /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86.nodri-trunk startx -- /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 or startx -- /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86.nodri-trunk produce: Fatal server error: Cannot open log file /var/log/XFree86.0.log Right, you need to make the server suid root to start it like that. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500
of /usr/X11R6. Like I did with knoppix. I have 2 X11R6 directories now. Why? 4.2.1 was still there in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules . because I cant start the old 2.4.1 startx -- /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 or startx -- /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86.nodri-trunk produce: Fatal server error: Cannot open log file /var/log/XFree86.0.log Right, you need to make the server suid root to start it like that. No. Moreover, having done that, and trying to restore original permissions I cant start X session at all (startx now doesnt work at all anymore) -- This is a pre-release version of XFree86, and is not supported in any way. Bugs may be reported to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and patches submitted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions, please check the latest version in the XFree86 CVS repository (http://www.XFree86.Org/cvs) XFree86 Version 4.2.99.2 (DRI trunk) / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600) Release Date: 21 October 2002 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/) Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.20aa1 i686 [ELF] Module Loader present Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/XFree86.0.log, Time: Sun Feb 23 22:43:38 2003 (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 Skipping /usr/X11R6/lib/modules-dri-trunk/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.o: No symbols found Skipping /usr/X11R6/lib/modules-dri-trunk/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_norm.o: No symbols found Skipping /usr/X11R6/lib/modules-dri-trunk/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_xform.o: No symbols found Skipping /usr/X11R6/lib/modules-dri-trunk/fonts/libspeedo.a:spencode.o: No symbols found Symbol xf86strtof from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules-dri-trunk/extensions/libGLcore.a is unresolved! succeeded succeeded Warning: font renderer for .pcf registered more than once Warning: font renderer for .pcf.Z registered more than once Warning: font renderer for .pcf.gz registered more than once Warning: font renderer for .snf registered more than once Warning: font renderer for .snf.Z registered more than once Warning: font renderer for .snf.gz registered more than once Warning: font renderer for .bdf registered more than once Warning: font renderer for .bdf.Z registered more than once Warning: font renderer for .bdf.gz registered more than once Warning: font renderer for .pmf registered more than once Warning: font renderer for .pfa registered more than once Warning: font renderer for .pfb registered more than once waiting for X server to shut down --- unresolved/symbols were always there already bye Dominik -- -- Dominik Szczerba, Dr. CO-ME, D-ITET, ETZ F85 ETH, Gloriastr. 35 CH-8092 Zurich http://www.vision.ee.ethz.ch/~domi -- ii swear i never use vi^[:wqZZ -- ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500
Michel Dänzer wrote: BTW, you should be able to use current xlibmesa do you mean mesalib 5.0 (www.mesa3d.org) from the last year or xc/extras/Mesa from the latest XFree86's CVS? Dominik -- -- Dominik Szczerba, Dr. CO-ME, D-ITET, ETZ F85 ETH, Gloriastr. 35 CH-8092 Zurich http://www.vision.ee.ethz.ch/~domi -- ii swear i never use vi^[:wqZZ -- ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500
On Sam, 2003-02-22 at 11:03, Dominik Szczerba wrote:
Michel Dänzer wrote:
BTW, you should be able to use current xlibmesa
do you mean mesalib 5.0 (www.mesa3d.org) from the last year or
xc/extras/Mesa from the latest XFree86's CVS?
I mean xlibmesa4-{gl,dri} or xlibmesa-gl1-dri-trunk.
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BTW, you should be able to use current xlibmesa
do you mean mesalib 5.0 (www.mesa3d.org) from the last year or
xc/extras/Mesa from the latest XFree86's CVS?
I mean xlibmesa4-{gl,dri} or xlibmesa-gl1-dri-trunk.
?? that's what I did, no? Your package that you gave me?
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Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500
On Sam, 2003-02-22 at 15:20, Dominik Szczerba wrote:
BTW, you should be able to use current xlibmesa
do you mean mesalib 5.0 (www.mesa3d.org) from the last year or
xc/extras/Mesa from the latest XFree86's CVS?
I mean xlibmesa4-{gl,dri} or xlibmesa-gl1-dri-trunk.
?? that's what I did, no? Your package that you gave me?
Yes, but you're using it with a never version of the X server, with
which APM doesn't work.
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Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500
Yes, but you're using it with a never version of the X server, with which APM doesn't work. not APM, switching back to X from console! If this works I'm fine. OK, I am beginning to understand the whole concept of XFree. What you mean is to come back to 2.4.1, remove old xlibmesa3 2.4.1 and install only xlibmesa-gl1-dri-trunk. what is xlibmesa-gl1-trunk BTW? Is it in CVS version? I just compiled it myself and think if to install it along the old one or not... Sounds like big cleaning ;) Dominik -- -- Dominik Szczerba, Dr. CO-ME, D-ITET, ETZ F85 ETH, Gloriastr. 35 CH-8092 Zurich http://www.vision.ee.ethz.ch/~domi -- ii swear i never use vi^[:wqZZ -- ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500
On Sam, 2003-02-22 at 15:50, Dominik Szczerba wrote: Yes, but you're using it with a never version of the X server, with which APM doesn't work. not APM, switching back to X from console! If this works I'm fine. Whatever. :) OK, I am beginning to understand the whole concept of XFree. What you mean is to come back to 2.4.1, remove old xlibmesa3 2.4.1 and install only xlibmesa-gl1-dri-trunk. Just removing xserver-xfree86-dri-trunk and/or downgrading xserver-xfree86 should do. what is xlibmesa-gl1-trunk BTW? Is it in CVS version? Yes, it's libGL and the DRI drivers from the DRI CVS trunk. I just compiled it myself Why? and think if to install it along the old one or not... I don't understand what you mean here. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500
On Sam, 2003-02-22 at 17:42, Dominik Szczerba wrote: OK, I am beginning to understand the whole concept of XFree. What you mean is to come back to 2.4.1, remove old xlibmesa3 2.4.1 and install only xlibmesa-gl1-dri-trunk. but then I have to forget about the full 4.3 as well, because I doubt it will be fixed there... :( Yes, unless someone finds out what the problem is and fixes it very soon. I was thingking to have both wersions for tests. Both versions of what? BTW. How do I chose yet now which version (dri-trunk or old) I start with startx? dri-trunk is the default, for the other one use startx -- /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86.nodri-trunk -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500
but then I have to forget about the full 4.3 as well, because I doubt it will be fixed there... :( Yes, unless someone finds out what the problem is and fixes it very soon. I copied X11R6 directory from knoppix to my hdd and startedx with it, and the problem is not there: I can get back to X from console. I cant debug the driver source, but I offer tests. But maybe it is something easy in the X's code, not the driver? I was thingking to have both wersions for tests. Both versions of what? of /usr/X11R6. Like I did with knoppix. I have 2 X11R6 directories now. BTW. How do I chose yet now which version (dri-trunk or old) I start with startx? dri-trunk is the default, for the other one use startx -- /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86.nodri-trunk startx -- /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 or startx -- /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86.nodri-trunk produce: Fatal server error: Cannot open log file /var/log/XFree86.0.log When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send the full server output, not just the last messages. Please report problems to [EMAIL PROTECTED] giving up. xinit: No such file or directory (errno 2): unable to connect to X server xinit: No such process (errno 3): Server error. bye Dominik -- -- Dominik Szczerba, Dr. CO-ME, D-ITET, ETZ F85 ETH, Gloriastr. 35 CH-8092 Zurich http://www.vision.ee.ethz.ch/~domi -- ii swear i never use vi^[:wqZZ -- ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500
Hi, Following Kevin's comments, I compiled hi-res fb out of the kernel (section: console drivers) and now the display is back after Fn+F3 or suspend but ONLY without X running. So I have to quit X, suspend, wake up, startx. Not bad, but could be better. Half-done. I cant use your key combination trick, Kevin, because I cant go back from console to suspended X sesion. Or I dont know how to do it (I press alt+ctrl+F2 to go to console, alt+f1-f5 switch consoles, and alt+F7, which is supposed to bring me back to X, hangs all the display and I dont see nothing anymore. Would someone please suggest some solution? thanks Dominik -- -- Dominik Szczerba, Dr. CO-ME, D-ITET, ETZ F85 ETH, Gloriastr. 35 CH-8092 Zurich http://www.vision.ee.ethz.ch/~domi -- ii swear i never use vi^[:wqZZ -- ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500
On Fre, 2003-02-21 at 21:40, Dominik Szczerba wrote: Out of curiosity, are you using APM or ACPI? I'm using APM because of problems in the IBM ECDT which they have promised to fix. APM, compiled in, and it was working with 4.2.1 (OpenGL was not working then, that's why the whole story). BTW, you should be able to use current xlibmesa (or the one from Knoppix) with a 4.2.1 X server. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500
Switch to a character display (CTRL-ALT-F2) Turn off the display (usually Fn-F3 on ThinkPads) Turn display on (Any key) Switch back to X (Alt-F9 on FreeBSD, maybe something else on your OS) Hi, Thanks a lot, but it doesnt work :( If I press fn+F3 I cannot get the display back even without suspending. So it is suspending that doesnt work, this is the display. After suspend I hear the 3 beeps meaning, the machine is back. So the problem is the display. bye Dominik -- -- Dominik Szczerba, Dr. CO-ME, D-ITET, ETZ F85 ETH, Gloriastr. 35 CH-8092 Zurich http://www.vision.ee.ethz.ch/~domi -- ii swear i never use vi^[:wqZZ -- ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500
Hi, The problem is precisely defined now: IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH APM NOR SUSPEND. I turned suspend off in the BIOS, now re-opening the LCD brings the display back (but no sleep mode of course :( ). BUT FN+F3 alone kills the display, it goes completely black, then, after pressing a key the backlit lamp starts, but the display doesnt come back. THE LAPTOP IS ALIVE, I type in blindly reboot and it works, shutting down all services and rebooting. I checked the same fn+F3 procedure with suspend on in the bios - the same, no difference, the laptop is alive, but no display. Please, any ideas where to troubleshoot? thanksbye Dominik ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500
On Don, 2003-02-20 at 09:06, Dominik Szczerba wrote: 2) still: what was I doing wrong with standard xfree. then I go back to it. I don't understand what you mean here. Why wasnt my OpenGL working with my debian with 4.2.1, while it was working on the same machine with knoppixCD 4.2.1. If I know what the problem was I want to go back to 4.2.1 and have APM working. See the bugs filed about this against xlibmesa3-gl. Compiling 4.2.1 with gcc 3.2 doesn't work well. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500
Why wasnt my OpenGL working with my debian with 4.2.1, while it was working on the same machine with knoppixCD 4.2.1. If I know what the problem was I want to go back to 4.2.1 and have APM working. See the bugs filed about this against xlibmesa3-gl. Compiling 4.2.1 with gcc 3.2 doesn't work well. that could at least explain why it was working on relatively old knoppix and other old instalation on another A31. I was using 4.2.1 debian/unstable before, and AFAIK they are recompiling everything to 3.2 now... ciao Dominik -- -- Dominik Szczerba, Dr. CO-ME, D-ITET, ETZ F85 ETH, Gloriastr. 35 CH-8092 Zurich http://www.vision.ee.ethz.ch/~domi -- ii swear i never use vi^[:wqZZ -- ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500
If you're still using my packages, have you read /usr/share/doc/xserver-xfree86-dri-trunk/README.Debian ? yes, right, xdm authorize works :) APM still hangs my laptop (display doesnt come back) Keep in mind though that my packages are bleeding edge DRI CVS snapshots, you may prefer to use Daniel Stone's 4.2.99.x packages. 1) Why? 2) Can I safely uninstall your packages? 3) Why at all? Both knoppix and exactly the same laoptop of my coleague are working without installing latest XFree? Maybe I am just doing some simple error? I checked everything, /boot/config, tried 5 different kernel versions... _sigh_ Not sure. First of all, are you sure you haven't mixed up the 'frames in 5 seconds' and FPS values? I ask because it's an easy mistake, and 1200 no no, 1.2 kfps, 6kf/5s components because the use of interrupts decreases CPU usage (set RADEON_NO_IRQS=1 to test this). if I do this I get: 295 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.000 FPS * how up to date radeon_dri.so is (the newer the better) yours * how up to date the DRM (radeon.o kernel module) is (the newer the better) yours, I copied radeon.o to my modules KNOPPIX is older, so why is it faster? * whether page flipping (Option EnablePageFlip, only in 4.2.99.x or later) is enabled (page flipping is faster) * the AGP transfer rate (beware, anything more than 1x may be unstable) and whether AGP fast writes (Option AGPFastWrite) are enabled (may again be unstable) How do I do that? I didnt find anything in man pages nor in config/cf/site.def... thank you, Dominik -- -- Dominik Szczerba, Dr. CO-ME, D-ITET, ETZ F85 ETH, Gloriastr. 35 CH-8092 Zurich http://www.vision.ee.ethz.ch/~domi -- ii swear i never use vi^[:wqZZ -- ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500
* whether page flipping (Option EnablePageFlip, only in 4.2.99.x or later) is enabled (page flipping is faster) yes, this is it, it gives the missing 20% performance. but KNOPPIX doesnt have it in its XF config file.. For your reference, I get 1400-1500 fps on this PowerBook G4/667 with a Radeon 7500 Mobility running at AGP 4x with fast writes using my now I get the same. The important problem is now the sleep mode. Either it hangs or only the display doesnt come back. With the KNOPPIX it was not working either, I had to compile it in the kernel. Then it was working perfect. I installed your packages and it doesnt work anymore. 1) any ideas how to fix it? 2) still: what was I doing wrong with standard xfree. then I go back to it. 3) how do I go back. is it safe to remove the packages? thank you very much and kind regards, Dominik -- -- Dominik Szczerba, Dr. CO-ME, D-ITET, ETZ F85 ETH, Gloriastr. 35 CH-8092 Zurich http://www.vision.ee.ethz.ch/~domi -- ii swear i never use vi^[:wqZZ -- ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500
Just in case you have not seen any of my posts on the no/distorted display after suspend problem, there is a work-around. Switch to a character display (CTRL-ALT-F2) Turn off the display (usually Fn-F3 on ThinkPads) Turn display on (Any key) Switch back to X (Alt-F9 on FreeBSD, maybe something else on your OS) To avoid the problem, switch to a character display before suspending. Maybe BIOS will fix this some day or someone will come up with a work-around. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Phone: +1 510 486-8634 ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500
On Mit, 2003-02-19 at 12:15, Dominik Szczerba wrote: * whether page flipping (Option EnablePageFlip, only in 4.2.99.x or later) is enabled (page flipping is faster) yes, this is it, it gives the missing 20% performance. but KNOPPIX doesnt have it in its XF config file.. Yes, 4.2.1 didn't support page flipping yet. I have no idea why it would be so fast. :) The important problem is now the sleep mode. Either it hangs or only the display doesnt come back. With the KNOPPIX it was not working either, I had to compile it in the kernel. Then it was working perfect. I installed your packages and it doesnt work anymore. 1) any ideas how to fix it? It was probably luck that it ever worked in the first place. Apart from the workarounds someone else mentioned, you could try Option DRIReinit with xserver-xfree86-dri-trunk or Charl P. Botha's DRI resume patch. (Also make sure that /dev/apm_bios works so the X server log contains lines like (II) Open APM successful ) 2) still: what was I doing wrong with standard xfree. then I go back to it. I don't understand what you mean here. 3) how do I go back. is it safe to remove the packages? Yes, apt-get install xlibmesa3-gl xserver-xfree86-dri-trunk- should get you back where you were before. PS: About GL_POINT_SIZE, AFAIR the driver simply doesn't support that (check the dri-devel archives). -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
[XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500
Hi, I have a problem on my IBM TP A31 running debian/unstable 2.4.20. Most (but not all!!) OpenGL commands dont work. Just black screen effect. GL_LINES and GL_POINTS work for example, but GL_TRIANGLES and more complex commands won't work. Is it something to do with libGL* stuff? So will newer XFree version help? What's the stage of development for Radeon 7500 in current CVS version? Thanks a lot, Dominik -- -- Dominik Szczerba, Dr. CO-ME, D-ITET, ETZ F85 ETH, Gloriastr. 35 CH-8092 Zurich http://www.vision.ee.ethz.ch/~domi -- ii swear i never use vi^[:wqZZ -- ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500
On Die, 2003-02-18 at 10:55, Dominik Szczerba wrote: I have a problem on my IBM TP A31 running debian/unstable 2.4.20. Most (but not all!!) OpenGL commands dont work. Just black screen effect. GL_LINES and GL_POINTS work for example, but GL_TRIANGLES and more complex commands won't work. Is it something to do with libGL* stuff? So will newer XFree version help? Yes, this is an xlibmesa3-gl problem (which has been reported several times to the Debian BTS), the code is probably too old to build correctly with the sid toolchain. http://penguinppc.org/~daniels/README or http://dri.sourceforge.net/snapshots/README.Debian should work. What's the stage of development for Radeon 7500 in current CVS version? It's very well supported. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500
Hi, Thanks a lot for hints. Here is the report: 1) I installed xserver-xfree86-dri-trunk and xlibmesa-gl1-dri-trunk from http://people.debian.org/~daenzer/dri-trunk-sid/. I didnt find the mentioned xlibmesa3-dri-trunk. 2) I installed drm-trunk-module-src package, but havent built it - I have no idea about it nor about kernel-package... OK, I rebooted and... new login window I CANNOT LOGIN EVEN AS ROOT Switched to console, logged normally (uf, worked) and did startx. So I will get it fixed somehow myself, no problem. glxgears reported first over 1000 fps but also: libGL error: InitDriver failed and screwing up a bit my machine (display is slooow, windows are messed up a bit). Starting it the second time reported 100 fps only consistent with other GL apps, which also are very slow The error is there, apps are working, but very slow. What is wrong? Is it is this drm-trunk-module-src that I didnt built? If yes, then please, one word how to build it... thank you! Dominik Michel Dänzer wrote: On Die, 2003-02-18 at 10:55, Dominik Szczerba wrote: I have a problem on my IBM TP A31 running debian/unstable 2.4.20. Most (but not all!!) OpenGL commands dont work. Just black screen effect. GL_LINES and GL_POINTS work for example, but GL_TRIANGLES and more complex commands won't work. Is it something to do with libGL* stuff? So will newer XFree version help? Yes, this is an xlibmesa3-gl problem (which has been reported several times to the Debian BTS), the code is probably too old to build correctly with the sid toolchain. http://penguinppc.org/~daniels/README or http://dri.sourceforge.net/snapshots/README.Debian should work. What's the stage of development for Radeon 7500 in current CVS version? It's very well supported. ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500
Hi, I just discovered that on knoppix debian-on-cd all works fine and very fast (glxgears give 1.2kfps!!!): knoppix@ttyp1[knoppix]$ XFree86 -version This is a pre-release version of XFree86, and is not supported in any way. Bugs may be reported to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and patches submitted to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions, please check the latest version in the XFree86 CVS repository (http://www.XFree86.Org/cvs) *** XFree86 Version 4.2.1.1 (Debian 4.2.1-4 20021123003806 [EMAIL PROTECTED]) / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600) Release Date: 18 October 2002 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/) Build Operating System: Linux 2.4.18 i686 [ELF] Module Loader present *** So what's going on here, they use even older version that I HAD (I used your patches)...? So maybe the problem can be fixed more elegantly without the mesa patches? What am I doing wrong? Now, after the patches I get very slow results and the windows system slows down... regards, Dominik Yes, this is an xlibmesa3-gl problem (which has been reported several times to the Debian BTS), the code is probably too old to build correctly with the sid toolchain. http://penguinppc.org/~daniels/README or http://dri.sourceforge.net/snapshots/README.Debian should work. What's the stage of development for Radeon 7500 in current CVS version? It's very well supported. ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
Re: [XFree86] Thinkpad A31 and Radeon Mobility 7500
On Die, 2003-02-18 at 19:28, Dominik Szczerba wrote: I very much apologize for my ignorance on kernel-package stuff. I just compiled the modules myself, and brute-force copied radeon.o into my /lib/modules. IT WORKS! No more errors, no unstabilities (well, still I cant login, I have to kill login window, login via console and then startx). If you're still using my packages, have you read /usr/share/doc/xserver-xfree86-dri-trunk/README.Debian ? Keep in mind though that my packages are bleeding edge DRI CVS snapshots, you may prefer to use Daniel Stone's 4.2.99.x packages. However, I get 20% less acceleration than with (older?) knoppix XFree... glxgears give exactly 1kfps (0.1 before), while knoppix reports 1.2kfps. It is not disaster, but I am just ambitious: why did it all happen, and how/if could it have been avoided with normal sid xfree... and still, why is knoppix faster? Not sure. First of all, are you sure you haven't mixed up the 'frames in 5 seconds' and FPS values? I ask because it's an easy mistake, and 1200 frames in 5 seconds would be 440 fps, which is about what I'd expect from 4.2.x . Something else to keep in mind is that people have been bitten by BIOS CPU throttling 'features', which might only trigger with newer DRI components because the use of interrupts decreases CPU usage (set RADEON_NO_IRQS=1 to test this). Here's a list of the major components having an influence on glxgears framerate, roughly sorted by relevance: * how up to date radeon_dri.so is (the newer the better) * how up to date the DRM (radeon.o kernel module) is (the newer the better) * whether page flipping (Option EnablePageFlip, only in 4.2.99.x or later) is enabled (page flipping is faster) * the AGP transfer rate (beware, anything more than 1x may be unstable) and whether AGP fast writes (Option AGPFastWrite) are enabled (may again be unstable) YMMV depending on the status of each of these. For your reference, I get 1400-1500 fps on this PowerBook G4/667 with a Radeon 7500 Mobility running at AGP 4x with fast writes using my packages. -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast ___ XFree86 mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xfree86
