Re: [zones-discuss] Lost network connectivity and NIC recognition

2008-03-18 Thread James Carlson
Anne Moore writes:
> I am definitely using OpenSolaris as that's what I downloaded and installed,
> (excuse me if it's not called "10").

I was trying to find out which one you actually have.  Solaris 10 and
OpenSolaris are different entities.

> <>
> I feel sorry for you James. It appears you must put people down to feel
> better about yourself. Why not go to a shrink for help?! 

I wasn't trying to put you down at all.  I'm sorry if it sounded that
way in email.

I was suggesting that if you have Solaris 10 (which it sounded to me
like you did -- many Solaris 10 users errantly think they're using
OpenSolaris, and I've never heard of an OpenSolaris user refer to his
or her system as "10"), then you ought to contact a local Sun support
person.  That's what support is for.

> Next time, ask a real engineer before you respond.

Ah, well, time to turn in that worthless sheepskin, I guess.  :-/

As for the unexpected results on sys-unconfig, did it ask you any
questions at all on boot-up?

If this really is OpenSolaris, which one is it exactly?  There are
multiple distributions, each with many different builds.  Narrowing
down the field seems like the first obvious step.

Is it perhaps Indiana?  If so, then you should be contacting that
project team directly.

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Re: [zones-discuss] Lost network connectivity and NIC recognition

2008-03-18 Thread Anne Moore
Christine

You're wrong here and you were wrong about the migration. Why can't you
accept that!? You should be asking me HOW I did the entire thing so
successfully than saying it can't be done. You should learn to WORK with the
public engineers, not against them. 

<< Is it possible that your system hangs on patching and upgrade because
you've attempted to do 
things we warned you not to do?>>

Umm, it's a DIFFERENT system.

<>

How do you know? It was pretty clear when I read it.

<>

I bash people who bash me, period. Do you want me to cower in a corner an
cry when someone bashes me!? Have you lost all your sense of dignity and
courage??

Please don't email me and defend your colleague who was obviously out of
line.

Anne



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 5:11 PM
To: Anne Moore
Cc: zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
Subject: Re: [zones-discuss] Lost network connectivity and NIC recognition

Anne Moore wrote:
> James
> 
> I am definitely using OpenSolaris as that's what I downloaded and 
> installed, (excuse me if it's not called "10").
> 
> <> I feel sorry for you 
> James. It appears you must put people down to feel better about 
> yourself. Why not go to a shrink for help?!

Ann!  He means you need local Solaris Service support.  But you mentioned
that you do not a service contract somewhere in your emails.


> You gave a very obvious (LOL) answer that a novice level would give. I
need
> SENIOR level engineers helping out. I take care of 312 Solaris boxes,
> including VM's. I tried all the trivial normal stuff like what you
> suggested.
> 
> You "SUN" guys/gals told me I could NOT migrate all of my zones from one
> patch level to another. WRONG. I migrated 11 such zones and each is
working
> perfectly. IN fact, I think you should come to my Solaris classes. You
would
> learn quite a bit.
> 
> Next time, ask a real engineer before you respond.
> 

James *IS* one of our very senior engineers.  Yes, one of those "real" 
ones.  He's one of the coders of the features you're using (perhaps 
abusing.)

If you read my email more carefully, I said that the migration you 
attempted IS NOT SUPPORTED.  You have an unsupportable system when you 
modified the index and zones .xml file and move the zonepaths around. 
That it appears to work is not the point.  Is it possible that your 
system hangs on patching and upgrade because you've attempted to do 
things we warned you not to do?  Please don't bash people on opensolaris 
from whom you seek help.

CT

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Re: [zones-discuss] Lost network connectivity and NIC recognition

2008-03-18 Thread Christine Tran
Anne Moore wrote:
> James
> 
> I am definitely using OpenSolaris as that's what I downloaded and installed,
> (excuse me if it's not called "10").
> 
> <>
> I feel sorry for you James. It appears you must put people down to feel
> better about yourself. Why not go to a shrink for help?! 

Ann!  He means you need local Solaris Service support.  But you 
mentioned that you do not a service contract somewhere in your emails.


> You gave a very obvious (LOL) answer that a novice level would give. I need
> SENIOR level engineers helping out. I take care of 312 Solaris boxes,
> including VM's. I tried all the trivial normal stuff like what you
> suggested.
> 
> You "SUN" guys/gals told me I could NOT migrate all of my zones from one
> patch level to another. WRONG. I migrated 11 such zones and each is working
> perfectly. IN fact, I think you should come to my Solaris classes. You would
> learn quite a bit.
> 
> Next time, ask a real engineer before you respond.
> 

James *IS* one of our very senior engineers.  Yes, one of those "real" 
ones.  He's one of the coders of the features you're using (perhaps 
abusing.)

If you read my email more carefully, I said that the migration you 
attempted IS NOT SUPPORTED.  You have an unsupportable system when you 
modified the index and zones .xml file and move the zonepaths around. 
That it appears to work is not the point.  Is it possible that your 
system hangs on patching and upgrade because you've attempted to do 
things we warned you not to do?  Please don't bash people on opensolaris 
from whom you seek help.

CT
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Re: [zones-discuss] Lost network connectivity and NIC recognition

2008-03-18 Thread Anne Moore
James

I am definitely using OpenSolaris as that's what I downloaded and installed,
(excuse me if it's not called "10").

<>
I feel sorry for you James. It appears you must put people down to feel
better about yourself. Why not go to a shrink for help?! 

You gave a very obvious (LOL) answer that a novice level would give. I need
SENIOR level engineers helping out. I take care of 312 Solaris boxes,
including VM's. I tried all the trivial normal stuff like what you
suggested.

You "SUN" guys/gals told me I could NOT migrate all of my zones from one
patch level to another. WRONG. I migrated 11 such zones and each is working
perfectly. IN fact, I think you should come to my Solaris classes. You would
learn quite a bit.

Next time, ask a real engineer before you respond.

Anne


-Original Message-
From: James Carlson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 3:57 PM
To: Anne Moore
Cc: zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
Subject: Re: [zones-discuss] Lost network connectivity and NIC recognition

Anne Moore writes:
> I'm running OpenSolaris 10.

There's no such thing as "OpenSolaris 10."  OpenSolaris is a different minor
release from Solaris 10 (it's effectively what will one day be "Solaris
11").  If you need support for Solaris 10, please contact Sun's support
group.

> The WORST part is that it's now lost all of it's network recognition. 
> It says that there are NO NIC's installed! I ran #touch /reconfigure 
> and still, nothing. I booted of OBP with "boot -r" and still nothing. 
> I'm running a SUN T1000.

I'm not sure what's going on with this system (it sounds like you need some
local support), but you can do this on just about any Solaris system to
discover what NICs are installed:

ifconfig -a plumb
ifconfig -a

If you're really using OpenSolaris, then "dladm show-link" will show the
NICs without having to plumb them all.

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Sun Microsystems / 35 Network Drive71.232W   Vox +1 781 442 2084
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Re: [zones-discuss] Lost network connectivity and NIC recognition

2008-03-18 Thread James Carlson
Anne Moore writes:
> I'm running OpenSolaris 10.

There's no such thing as "OpenSolaris 10."  OpenSolaris is a different
minor release from Solaris 10 (it's effectively what will one day be
"Solaris 11").  If you need support for Solaris 10, please contact
Sun's support group.

> The WORST part is that it's now lost all of it's network recognition. It
> says that there are NO NIC's installed! I ran #touch /reconfigure and still,
> nothing. I booted of OBP with "boot -r" and still nothing. I'm running a SUN
> T1000.

I'm not sure what's going on with this system (it sounds like you need
some local support), but you can do this on just about any Solaris
system to discover what NICs are installed:

ifconfig -a plumb
ifconfig -a

If you're really using OpenSolaris, then "dladm show-link" will show
the NICs without having to plumb them all.

-- 
James Carlson, Solaris Networking  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sun Microsystems / 35 Network Drive71.232W   Vox +1 781 442 2084
MS UBUR02-212 / Burlington MA 01803-2757   42.496N   Fax +1 781 442 1677
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[zones-discuss] Lost network connectivity and NIC recognition

2008-03-18 Thread Anne Moore
Hi All

I'm running OpenSolaris 10. I ran sys-unconfig so that I could change the IP
addresses on the box (which has 11 zones). However, after boot up, it went
straight to logon and allowed me to type "root" and hit "enter" and get
right into the OS without giving a password. 

The WORST part is that it's now lost all of it's network recognition. It
says that there are NO NIC's installed! I ran #touch /reconfigure and still,
nothing. I booted of OBP with "boot -r" and still nothing. I'm running a SUN
T1000.

Anyone have any ideas on how I can fix this on this OpenSolaris box?

Thank you for your help

Anne

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