Re: [Zope] Atomic ZSQL on Zope 2.7.5
Philip Kilner wrote: Hi Andreas, Andreas Jung wrote: For some reason I thought ZSQL method calls were atomic, but they appear otherwise. What do you mean by atomic? ZSQL are handled by the database adaper which is usually tied to the transaction manager of the ZODB. I'm too tired to find the words, so cut and pasted from answers.com: - Indivisible. An atomic operation, or atomicity, implies an operation that must be performed entirely or not at all. For example, if machine failure prevents a transaction to be processed to completion, the system will be rolled back to the start of the transaction. Like Michael, I had understood that ZSQL database transactions were tied into Zope transactions, and would fail or succeed as a whole. Like him, I have found that - at least with this combination of DA RDBMS - this is not so. I work around it, as I always do when a Microsoft product is involved. If I hit the same thing with PostgreSQL, I'll look into it deeper... I was under the impression that ZSQL methods were very much intended to be atomic: http://www.plope.com/Books/2_7Edition/RelationalDatabases.stx#2-77 I know that it's been atomic to the point of frustration when working with Zope and MySQL. Perhaps the database adapter is at fault here? -- Floyd May Senior Systems Analyst CTLN - CareerTech Learning Network [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] TAL page whitespace removal
Paul Winkler wrote: On Wed, Apr 12, 2006 at 01:56:58PM -0500, Floyd May wrote: One solution I've found is to buffer the writes to REQUEST.RESPONSE by using a python script which the calls granular page templates rather than a single monolithic template, and outputting the results 25k at a time or so; it gives the rest of the server some time to catch up. Note that this doesn't buy you any improved responsiveness if you're running behind e.g. apache, because apache has to read the entire response from Zope before it starts sending it back to the client. Wasn't aware of that, but I've tested it from behind Squid, and it works like a charm. -- Floyd May Senior Systems Analyst CTLN - CareerTech Learning Network [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] TAL page whitespace removal
Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote: Dieter Maurer wrote: Robert (Jamie) Munro wrote at 2006-4-10 13:14 +0100: For example, I downloaded the www.plone.org home page and it was 47704 bytes. I removed all whitespace from the beginning and end of lines, and then removed blank lines, and it was down to 35087 bytes - that's a more than 25% saving, and the output renders exactly the same in web browsers. A much more efficient way is to activate gzip compression for your pages. It not only handles white space efficiently (and correct for e.g. pages with pre tags or similar CSS directives) it also compresses other text. You not only gain 25 % but about 70 % (in the size of requests). gzip will add enormous processing overhead to the server. Striping spaces will add negligible overhead, likely less overhead than it saves. Doubtful. If high-throughput servers can encrypt and decrypt SSL traffic, gzip isn't going to be a problem. The difference between running gzip versus htmltidy shouldn't even be significantly noticeable on a sufficiently-powered server. I know that super-high throughput sites (e.g. Google) intentionally break some standards to save bandwidth (where omitting '/body/html' could save gigabytes per day), but if you're in a situation like that, Zope probably isn't for you anyway. You will not save RAM on the server side (of course), but hopefully (and very likely) the scripts are not the major user of RAM on your site. I have written TAL that produces very large dumps of XML data in the past, even whole sites. It's a really nice way to dump data from a database (SQL or Zope DB), but Zope has to build the whole output in RAM before sending any of it, so it can cause the site to crash. One solution I've found is to buffer the writes to REQUEST.RESPONSE by using a python script which the calls granular page templates rather than a single monolithic template, and outputting the results 25k at a time or so; it gives the rest of the server some time to catch up. However, the point you bring up has nothing to do with whether or not the output has significant whitespace in it -- double or triple the amount of data sent, and you're still in the same boat. If you're this concerned about bandwidth, you're probably using the wrong tool for the job. I would hope in this kind of case that the TAL is the major user of RAM on the site, so any saving would be really good, but it all cases (except pre tags, which I would never use) it seems like a possibly significant gain. There's a reason for TAL being rendered and stored before it's sent. Zope is an *Application Server*. If there's an error in rendering, it gives the server an opportunity to handle this case gracefully in an *Application-Specific* way, rather than sending a half-finished page to the browser followed by an error message that will be rendered God-knows-how to the user. If you render store before sending, you can catch rendering errors and handle them gracefully. -- Floyd May Senior Systems Analyst CTLN - CareerTech Learning Network [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] calling a product with xmlrpc
Paul Winkler wrote: On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 05:54:35PM +0200, Reinoud van Leeuwen wrote: [...] This however generates a NotFound Exception :-( I'm not sure why you get NotFound, but one thing I spotted is that anything you want to publish in zope 2 must have a docstring. I've ran into situations where lack-of-docstring results in a NotFound. Not saying that this is the sole culprit of the trouble, but it's certainly worth knowing. -- Floyd May Senior Systems Analyst CTLN - CareerTech Learning Network [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Zope crashes on request of certain page
Sven Jacobs wrote: Dear Zope list, I have a serious problem with Zope. Every time a certain page is requested by a web browser for the second or third time (first time always works) the whole Zope server crashes :-( The only thing special about this page are calls of external Python methods from a custom extension. These methods don't do any special magic. They just open a MySQL database (using the MySQLdb module version 0.9.1) and return some HTML output. I was able to catch a somewhat informative error message when Zope was running in debug mode: 2006-03-27T12:18:57 PANIC(300) z2 Startup exception Traceback (innermost last): File /opt/zope/z2.py, line 495, in ? (Object: ZLogger) File string, line 1, in ? File /opt/zope/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 37, in ? File /opt/zope/lib/python/ZODB/FileStorage.py, line 202, in __init__ File /opt/zope/lib/python/ZODB/lock_file.py, line 29, in lock_file StorageSystemError: Could not lock the database file. There must be another process that has opened the file. Operating system is SuSE Linux 8.0, Zope version is 2.5.0, Python 2.2, MySQL 3.23.48. I know, pretty old but upgrading any of these software components should be avoided due to emerging costs unless absolutely necessary! So if you have any idea how to fix this problem besides upgrade to the newest versions I would be glad to here from you! Thank you very much! Use a MySQL database adapter in Zope, and use ZSQL Methods to retrieve data from the database. See here: http://www.plope.com/Books/2_7Edition/RelationalDatabases.stx HTH! -- Floyd May Senior Systems Analyst CTLN - CareerTech Learning Network [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Strange behavior with TAL and python: expressions
Great and mighty Zope gurus, I have a template which calls a macro. Within the template, I tal:define a variable, 'form'. Within the macro, the 'form' variable (which is an FSForm object) is defined as None unless I access it using python expressions. If I attempt to do anything with attributes of 'form', I get an AttributeError indicating that the NoneType object, form, doesn't have the attribute that I'm looking for. However, I can use 'form' any way I want inside the template that calls the macro. It seems that the macro call somehow lost part of the information associated with the 'form' variable. I worked around the problem by defining form using a python expression instead of a pure TALES expression. I was also able to work around the issue by accessing 'form' within the macro using python expressions instead of TALES. Why would this happen? Is this expected? I'm using Zope 2.7.5 and Formulator 1.9. I'm not sure what other products to list here; this seems like a ZPT-related thing. Please let me know if there is any more information I can provide. Thanks! -- Floyd May Senior Systems Analyst CTLN - CareerTech Learning Network [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] About Archetypes
On 3/15/06, Sergio Gomez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody know a good tutorial on how to write archetypes from scratch? There is a rather dated developers' guide at plone.org: http://plone.org/products/archetypes/documentation/old/ArchetypesDeveloperGuide/index_html I would recommend playing with ArchGenXML, seeing how it works, and using it to either: 1. Generate all your classes and relationships 2. Learn how things are done so that you can write AT-based stuff from scratch. The developers' guide that I mentioned above has been very helpful, especially when writing page templates. Also, there's an Archetypes-users mailing list for these kind of questions: http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/archetypes-users The #plone channel on irc.freenode.net is also very helpful when dealing with Archetypes. -- Floyd May Senior Systems Analyst CTLN - CareerTech Learning Network [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Re: Re: major problems placing authentication on an extranet site-security flaw?
It's been said a million times in a million different ways, so let's tick that counter one more time and make it a million and one: DON'T FEED THE TROLLS. http://img18.photobucket.com/albums/v55/krazykit/2004-03-22_104550_troll.gif -- Floyd May Senior Systems Analyst CTLN - CareerTech Learning Network [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] [Getting OT] major problems placing authentication on an extranet site-security flaw?
On 2/16/06, michael nt milne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yeah, take his advice Chris :-) On 2/16/06, Floyd May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's been said a million times in a million different ways, so let's tick that counter one more time and make it a million and one: DON'T FEED THE TROLLS. http://img18.photobucket.com/albums/v55/krazykit/2004-03-22_104550_troll.gif -- Floyd May Senior Systems Analyst CTLN - CareerTech Learning Network [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) -- Michael ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) Michael's response reminds me of being a teenager in a small town. There was a man there that owned a junkyard. Rather than attempt to maintain weed control with herbicides or a weedeater, the man bought a goat. The goat began eating weeds and making a wonderful dent in the overgrown areas of the junkyard, giving the man more space for his business. Furthermore, the goat became somewhat of a mascot, and customers would bring a carrot or a handful of veggies to feed the goat whenever they visited the junkyard. The goat was friendly, and would greet customers, happily bleating and begging for treats. The goat's horns, however, had a tendency to scratch the paint of their vehicles, so the junkyard owner wrapped the goat's horns in duct tape. This worked wonderfully, until the junkyard owner bought another goat to clean up a newly-acquired adjacent plot of land -- the goats ate the duct tape from each others' horns. Goats, like trolls, will eat almost anything. -- Floyd May Senior Systems Analyst CTLN - CareerTech Learning Network [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Re: major problems placing authentication on an extranet site-security flaw?
. The complexity of Zope's security features is INTENTIONAL, and will not change, especially not to suit the needs of a disrespectful leech like yourself (and I use the word 'leech' to indicate that you expect it is perfectly fine to take from the Zope community without giving back). Consider these words long and hard before posting again. -- Floyd May Senior Systems Analyst CTLN - CareerTech Learning Network [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] about zope and mouse event handling
On 2/10/06, Tino Wildenhain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... maybe if there is a chapter about image manipulation on the fly with PIL (python imaging lib) I believe that Plone (or Plohn as it seems to be called by Zope people ;-) ) has some product(s) somewhere that make use of PIL. Here's a VERY brief page on it: http://plone.org/documentation/tutorial/richdocument/pil It's definitely possible to hook PIL into Zope, and it's been done in the past. You should be able to find some documentation or perhaps a product or two that uses it. -- Floyd May Senior Systems Analyst CTLN - CareerTech Learning Network [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] zserver-threads
On 1/31/06, Jake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I gleaming from that that you are proposing a less-is-more approach tothreads?Here is what I have been using:- Zope 2.7.8 (Plone 2.1.2)- RH Linux- AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 2.0 GHz- 2GB DDR RAM - 120,000 hits a day- 392,036 objects in database- 2 threads- 100,000 object cache sizeThis seems to eat up about half of the RAM on the server.Would one thread but double the cache size do better? Jake___http://www.ZopeZone.comOn Tue, January 31, 2006 2:40 pm, Dieter Maurer said: Jens Vagelpohl wrote at 2006-1-31 15:07 +: On 31 Jan 2006, at 15:01, Jake wrote: http://plone.org/documentation/how-to/threads-vs-cache-size That article contains little information to back up the conclusions,and some of it is patently wrong. Another case of hearsay and half-thruths being propagated by well-meaning but uninformed parties. There is a convincing example (I think from Matt Kromer) what happens to mean response time when the number of threads is increased from 1 to 2: Assume you have 2 units of work. If you have a single thread, 1 unit is done, then the second. The mean response time is (1 + 2) / 2 = 1.5. Now assume you have two threads (but a single processor). Both threads work (quasi) parallel but have only half of the processor power. Both will take 2 time units to perform their unit of work. The mean response time is (2 + 2) / 2 = 2. You get the same ratios whenever you double the number of threads (but keep the number of processors and all your work is CPU bound). Things become more difficult when you have a mix of very small requests and very long requests. You then may want a higher level of concurrency to not let the small requests being blocked by the long ones. -- Dieter ___ Zope maillist- Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding!** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announcehttp://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )___Zope maillist-Zope@zope.orghttp://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding!**(Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )I would recommend exploring ZEO and Squid if you're *this* worried about performance. There's only so much that one machine can do. If I understand the Zope framework, the idea is that read-to-write ratio for the ZODB is going to be much greater than one, meaning that there are going to be a lot more reads than writes. In this case, having some load balancing and ZEO client caching will make overall performance faster. However, if you're doing lots of writing to the ZODB, you'll probably need to explore ZEO even more in the area of mounting different ZODBs at different places in your ZEO clients' trees. Like some of the other people said, you probably should just tune it as needed. It's also a Bad Thing to be running your servers at or near capacity; you should leave plenty of headspace for usage spikes. I've certainly run into situations where Zope stuff was processor-bound and slowing everything down, but the RAM wasn't even 25% full. In cases like this, more zserver threads (or more ZEO clients) helps even things out. YMMV. -- Floyd MaySenior Systems AnalystCTLN - CareerTech Learning Network[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] zopectl or runzope just won't start zope
First, I would recommend against changing anything in any file at this point except configuration files. Next, verify that the correct python version is being used. It's easy to have two pythons side-by-side on the same linux system. If you built Zope from source, you (probably) should build python from source as well. However, if you used an installable package for Zope, I would recommend staying with whatever version pairing of Zope/Python that your Linux distribution has by default. It's simpler that way, and will probably solve your problem. I know that I've built Zope before where it's pointed at the wrong python version, and got things all screwed up for me. Use `which python` -V (those are backtics) to figure out the version that your $PATH points to by default. If you *are* building from source, verify that you used --with-python=/path/to/python2.3.5 when you ran the configure script for Zope. The configure script should(?) tell you if there's a problem with any module dependencies. Again, if building Zope from source, it's probably best that you use a python built from source as well. Good Luck! fmOn 12/14/05, Qass [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi:I'm new to zope and yesterday installed zope 2.8.4 on a linux systemrunning python 2.3.5Having followed installation instructions I got to the point of'zopectl start' and got the following error message while trying both 'runzope' and 'zopectl'.I've tried installing different versions of Zope and get the sameerror (error absent with Zope 3). At one point, Zope did start (Imoved it to a different port) but when I tried installing Plone in the Products directory of the zope instance, the 'Plone Site' did not showup in the drop down menu on the right hand side of the ZMI. Which iswhy I decided to reinstall and have been getting errors since. Ihaven't messed around with the Python installation at all. In this latest install I ran 'make instance' intead of 'make install'just to see if I would get the same error as I did yesterday when Ihad an instance of Zope running and I did.Any help in trying to fix this would be highly appreciated. I've tried changing PYTHONPATH in the zopectl file but that just leads to moreand more errors.Traceback (most recent call last):File /blah//Zope-2.8.4-final/lib/python/Zope2/Startup/run.py, line 56, in ? run()File /blah/Zope-2.8.4-final/lib/python/Zope2/Startup/run.py, line 17, in runimport Zope2.StartupFile /blah/Zope-2.8.4-final/lib/python/Zope2/__init__.py, line 60, in ? from Zope2.Startup.run import configureFile /network/share/home/sra/Zope-2.8.4-final/lib/python/Zope2/Startup/__init__.py,line 24, in ?import ZConfigFile /blah/Zope-2.8.4-final /lib/python/ZConfig/__init__.py, line 21, in ?from ZConfig.loader import loadConfig, loadConfigFileFile /blah/Zope-2.8.4-final/lib/python/ZConfig/loader.py, line 23, in ?import ZConfig.datatypes File /blah/Zope-2.8.4-final/lib/python/ZConfig/datatypes.py, line 19, in ?import datetimeFile /blah/Zope-2.8.4-final/lib/python/DateTime/__init__.py, line 13, in ?from DateTime import DateTime File /blah/Zope-2.8.4-final/lib/python/DateTime/DateTime.py, line 21, in ?from datetime import datetimeFile /blah/Zope-2.8.4-final/lib/python/DateTime/DateTime.py, line 21, in ? from datetime import datetimeImportError: cannot import name datetimeThank you very much for your help.Qass___Zope maillist- Zope@zope.orghttp://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope** No cross posts or HTML encoding!**(Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )-- Floyd MaySenior Systems AnalystCTLN - CareerTech Learning Network[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] msSql and python
You can pass arguments to ZSQL Methods. In this particular case, I assume that you don't want the WHERE clause in the query if the 'description' parameter is not passed? You can do it like this (inside the query): --8 dtml-if description WHERE description = dtml-sqlvar description type=string /dtml-if --8 Then, inside your python script: --8 desc = 'some string' context.path.to.query.queryname(description=desc) --8 Hope that helps! fm On 11/10/05, Kate Legere [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a zsql method to which I want to pass and argument. Normally I do it from a dtml method and the use something like this to test for equality. WHERE description = dtml-sqlvar description type=string. However, I'm passing the variable from a python script and it won't accept the dtml tag what do I put in the equality test? Kate ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Debugging security settings in .metadata files
I have a set of files - page templates, python scripts, and zsql methods - that are set up as filesystem objects. I'm having trouble getting the security set the way I want it to be with the .metadata files. Here is the content of my .metadata files: --8- [security] View = 0:Manager Access contents information = 0:Manager Access Contents Cnformation = 0:Manager -8-- However, I can still access my content through an anonymous context. Can anyone give me some ideas about debugging my situation? Thanks! Zope 2.7.7-final, python 2.3.5, freebsd5 CMF 1.4.8 fm ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Debugging security settings in .metadata files
I don't know what you're doing with the third line... Me neither, typo. Check what it looks like in the ZMI. This will tell you whether or not the problem is in getting the permissions set like you expect. Filesystem objects don't have a security tab in the ZMI (or at least, these don't). Should one be there? fm On 10/27/05, J Cameron Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Floyd May wrote: I have a set of files - page templates, python scripts, and zsql methods - that are set up as filesystem objects. I'm having trouble getting the security set the way I want it to be with the .metadata files. Here is the content of my .metadata files: --8- [security] View = 0:Manager Access contents information = 0:Manager Access Contents Cnformation = 0:Manager -8-- However, I can still access my content through an anonymous context. Can anyone give me some ideas about debugging my situation? Thanks! Zope 2.7.7-final, python 2.3.5, freebsd5 CMF 1.4.8 Looks okay to me, though I don't know what you're doing with the third line. Check what it looks like in the ZMI. This will tell you whether or not the problem is in getting the permissions set like you expect. --jcc -- Building Websites with Plone http://plonebook.packtpub.com/ Enfold Systems, LLC http://www.enfoldsystems.com ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: Filesystem Page Template lowercase-ifying all my tags
An update - It appears as though this problem is due to the content-type being set inappropriately (probably text/html). I'm attempting to render XML, but each of the templates only contains a piece of my final output XML file; therefore, I don't have the '?xml ... ?' header in the file. From a perusal of the source for FSPageTemplate, this appears to be the only way to get the Content-Type set to 'text/xml'. Basically, I'm constructing a VERY large XML file using a python script that buffers writes to REQUEST.RESPONSE. The script calls the page templates, and then writes the rendered page templates to REQUEST.RESPONSE through the buffering mechanism. I have attempted adding .metadata files for each of my templates, with the following content: ---8-- [default] content_type=text/xml ---8-- It didn't work. I'm still at a loss for how to make this all happen, I can't have my XML tags get lower-case-ified. Please help! Zope 2.7.7-final, python 2.3.5, freebsd5 Page Templates 1.4.0 CMF 1.4.8 fm On 10/25/05, Floyd May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a product that installs some filesystem page templates into a plone site's portal_skins. The templates are exactly the same as their created-through-ZMI counterparts, yet the filesystem templates render with all their tags lower-cased, whereas the ZMI-created templates preserve case. Why is this happening? Zope 2.7.7-final, python 2.3.5, freebsd5 Page Templates 1.4.0 Thanks! fm ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Re: Filesystem Page Template lowercase-ifying all my tags
I found a way to hack around it. It's definitely ugly, though. Basically, I have a python script that calls page templates and buffers the results as it writes out to REQUEST.RESPONSE. Each page template is *just a portion* of my final output XML file. Since all of the scripts and templates that I'm using are read from the filesystem, they are the filesystem-equivalents to the ZODB-stored objects. Specifically, I discovered that the FSPageTemplate from CMFCore will set the content_type attribute on the object to 'text/xml' if the file begins with '?xml'. Otherwise, when it sees the xml-or-html-looking content, it assumes a content_type of 'text/html', which lowercases all the tags. So I added an xml header to all of my page templates, and I strip it back out inside the python script that calls the template (so that I don't have the XML header repeated over and over in my final output XML file). Ugly, yes, but it does work. fm On 10/26/05, Fred Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/26/05, Floyd May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It appears as though this problem is due to the content-type being set inappropriately (probably text/html). I'm attempting to render XML, but each of the templates only contains a piece of my final output XML file; therefore, I don't have the '?xml ... ?' header in the file. From a perusal of the source for FSPageTemplate, this appears to be the only way to get the Content-Type set to 'text/xml'. Basically, Unfortunately, that's true for the current code. Julien Anguenot and I started working on this problem (along with some other aspects of the XML vs. HTML behavior) based on the Zope 3 implementation for page templates. The work isn't done yet, though the aspect you're interested in is pretty straightforward. That's only for the Zope 3 version of the code, however. For now, your best bet may be to subclass the PageTemplateFile class (or whichever derived class of that that's relevant to you) and override the _cook_check() method to do what you need it to do. If you're using a file-system view, you likely need to arrange for your new class to be used for some new filename extension; I'm not sure how to arrange for that. -Fred -- Fred L. Drake, Jr.fdrake at gmail.com Society attacks early, when the individual is helpless. --B.F. Skinner ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Filesystem Page Template lowercase-ifying all my tags
I have a product that installs some filesystem page templates into a plone site's portal_skins. The templates are exactly the same as their created-through-ZMI counterparts, yet the filesystem templates render with all their tags lower-cased, whereas the ZMI-created templates preserve case. Why is this happening? Zope 2.7.7-final, python 2.3.5, freebsd5 Page Templates 1.4.0 Thanks! fm ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Using the set object within page templates
How can I use a set object within a page template? When I attempt to create a set (e.g. tal:define=myset python:set(some_list)), zope complains that the name 'set' is not defined. Thanks! fm ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Using the set object within page templates
Is there no way to allow sets to be used within templates/scripts? fm Andreas Jung [EMAIL PROTECTED] 9/26/2005 1:41:18 PM Python sets are not available from with ZPT since ZPT and PythonScripts run within a sandbox. Write an external method or move your code to trusted code (Zope product). -aj --On 26. September 2005 13:38:55 -0500 Floyd May [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I use a set object within a page template? When I attempt to create a set (e.g. tal:define=myset python:set(some_list)), zope complains that the name 'set' is not defined. Thanks! fm ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
