[Zope-dev] buildbot failure in Zope branches 2.10 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot
The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope branches 2.10 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot. Buildbot URL: http://buildbot.zope.org/ Build Reason: changes Build Source Stamp: 7997 Blamelist: alga,andreasjung,ctheune,dobe,faassen,fdrake,flox,icemac,jim,jukart,oestermeier,philikon,rafrombrc,romanofski,schwendinger,wosc,yuppie,yusei BUILD FAILED: failed test sincerely, -The Buildbot ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] buildbot failure in Zope branches 2.10 2.4 Windows 2000 zc-bbwin2
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[Zope-dev] Zope 2.10.0 released
Hi all, on behalf of Zope developer community I am pleased to announce the release of Zope 2.10.0. You can download Zope 2.10.0 from: http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.10.0/ Some new features of Zope 2.10: - ZPT implementation based on Zope 3 - experimental WSGI and Twisted integration - Zope 3.3, Five 1.5 integration - clock server - lots of minor improvements and fixes - replaced several Zope 2 modules with their sister implementation of Zope 3 For more information on what is new in this release, see the CHANGES.txt files for the release: http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.10.0/CHANGES.txt Please bring all the bugs you have found to the Zope bugtracker: http://collector.zope.org/Zope For more information on the available Zope releases, guidance for selecting the right distribution and installation instructions, please see: http://www.plope.com/Books/2_7Edition/InstallingZope.stx Supported Python versions: Zope 2.10 requires Python 2.4.3 (Python 2.4.2 is still acceptable). Older Python versions are no longer supported. Using Python 2.5 is also *unsupported*. Many thanks to all everyone who contributed. Very special thanks go to Philipp von Weiterhausen for his continuous and outstanding work in the Zope 2 *and* Zope 3 world. -- Andreas Jung pgp1LMD9bRULr.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] buildbot failure in Zope trunk 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot
The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope trunk 2.4 Linux zc-buildbot. Buildbot URL: http://buildbot.zope.org/ Build Reason: changes Build Source Stamp: 7999 Blamelist: alga,andreasjung,ctheune,dobe,faassen,fdrake,flox,icemac,jim,jukart,oestermeier,philikon,rafrombrc,romanofski,schwendinger,wosc,yuppie,yusei BUILD FAILED: failed test sincerely, -The Buildbot ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] buildbot failure in Zope trunk 2.4 Windows 2000 zc-bbwin6
The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope trunk 2.4 Windows 2000 zc-bbwin6. Buildbot URL: http://buildbot.zope.org/ Build Reason: changes Build Source Stamp: 7999 Blamelist: alga,andreasjung,ctheune,dobe,faassen,fdrake,flox,icemac,jim,jukart,oestermeier,philikon,rafrombrc,romanofski,schwendinger,wosc,yuppie,yusei BUILD FAILED: failed compile sincerely, -The Buildbot ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] I Like ZClasses as a separate product, I like Democracy Better
--On 2. Oktober 2006 10:24:33 -0700 Christopher Lozinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do like the idea of ZClasses as a separate product. If we make ZClasses a separate product, does that mean we can get our own mailing list for ZClasses. Maybe a separate web site, wiki, etc? I doubt that there would be any objections if you want to take over responsibility and ownership over this particular subproject. Maybe the 4 or 5 companies who care about ZClasses can get together and fund the upgrade. How much will your company offer? Will you work on getting the funding together? Open source is good, democratic source would be better. What does that mean? I am not trying to upset people with this email message. I just want to present a different point of view. I am only upset to continuous postings containing a lot of hot air without any kind of outcome. I bring it back the point: you have legitimate interest in ZClasses. Most of the core developers don't have such an interest. It is now *your turn* to do something for ZClasses - either by finding a volunteer to fix outstanding issues or by fundraising to pay a talented ZClasses maintainer. Sorry for repeating myself but I don't see any progress on the ZClasses front. As release manager I want to make clear that I don't want to ship further Zope 2 releases with packages that are in a bad shape and partly broken (I am not talking of packages that are in bad shape but that do work :-)). Andreas pgpg9zvy3o5Xe.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] [SVN-externals] tags vs. branches
Hi all, while working on the Zope trunk I figured out that the trunk contains svn:externals both to Zope 3 tags and Zope 3 branches. This mixture is insane. I propose the following for the future: - the svn:externals on the trunk should point to the latest release branches (Zope 3, ZODB etc.) or dedicated development branches that will be used for the next release - when we creating a new release branch (for preparing a new major) release we change the svn:externals to the latest branches that will be used for the next release. Pre-Zope 2.11.0 releases would refer to the Zope3/branches/3.4 - for release branches (after the .0 release) we point the svn:externals to latest tagged releases of a particular package. Versions Zope 2.11.0 would refer to Zope3/tags/3.4.X (which is already the case). Comments? Andreas pgpveFH6JITns.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] [SVN-externals] tags vs. branches
Previously Andreas Jung wrote: Hi all, while working on the Zope trunk I figured out that the trunk contains svn:externals both to Zope 3 tags and Zope 3 branches. This mixture is insane. I propose the following for the future: - the svn:externals on the trunk should point to the latest release branches (Zope 3, ZODB etc.) or dedicated development branches that will be used for the next release - when we creating a new release branch (for preparing a new major) release we change the svn:externals to the latest branches that will be used for the next release. Pre-Zope 2.11.0 releases would refer to the Zope3/branches/3.4 - for release branches (after the .0 release) we point the svn:externals to latest tagged releases of a particular package. Versions Zope 2.11.0 would refer to Zope3/tags/3.4.X (which is already the case). Comments? +1 Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Future of ZClasses
Lennart Regebro said the following on 10/02/2006 11:16 AM: On 10/2/06, Olavo Santos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many deprecation sign for any user are clearly signs that Zope developers are unable to maintain certain Zope features. No they are not. Technically that is correct. Socially, as in how others, eg,. mere users an developers of zope-based applications *perceive* things, then it may very well be as Olavo S puts it. Especially when it comes to strategic decisions, eg. choosing development platform. I have no solution on how to solve this problem, though, but I think we should be aware of it. /dario -- -- --- Dario Lopez-Kästen, IT Systems Services Chalmers University of Tech. Lyrics applied to programming application design: emancipate yourself from mental slavery - redemption song, b. marley ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Future of ZClasses
On 10/3/06, Dario Lopez-Kästen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lennart Regebro said the following on 10/02/2006 11:16 AM: On 10/2/06, Olavo Santos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Many deprecation sign for any user are clearly signs that Zope developers are unable to maintain certain Zope features. No they are not. Technically that is correct. Socially, as in how others, eg,. mere users an developers of zope-based applications *perceive* things, then it may very well be as Olavo S puts it. Especially when it comes to strategic decisions, eg. choosing development platform. I have no solution on how to solve this problem, though, but I think we should be aware of it. The deprecations are indeed a sign that things are changing. This does in some way, indeed mean that the platform is unstable. Not as in buggy, but as rapidaly changing. Zope3 is therefore rapidly changing, and maybe even more so if you use it through Zope2 (ie Five). However, Zope2 in itself is NOT having very many deprecations, and is therefore NOT an unstable platform from this point of view. They only ones I can think of is the introduction of events instead of manage_afterAdd and such, and that is a VAST improvement over the previous situation, and backwards compatibility exist, and the much debated deprecation of zLOG. Neitehr of these were in any way a sign that anybody was unable to maintain features, and can simply not be reasonably (mis)interpreted as such. There HAVE been two signs of features not being able to be maintained, and those signs were both breakage. Breakage of ZODB version support, and breakage of ZClasses. Don't mix up deprecations with that. Deprecation are signs that things are moving fast, and is not a sign of lack of maintainance. Think of deprecations as a rerouting to another newly built road, while the lack of maintenance means that the road have holes in it. :) Too many newly build roads means drivers may get lost, and I think we ended up there in Zope3/Five, changes were too fast and too big, but done out of necessity. Zope2 has NOT experienced that. -- Lennart Regebro, Nuxeo http://www.nuxeo.com/ CPS Content Management http://www.cps-project.org/ ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: PYTHONPATH
silence == consent. will proceed as declared. -w whit wrote: Paul Winkler wrote: On Wed, Sep 27, 2006 at 06:26:49PM -0500, whit wrote: It seems like if you've set your PYTHONPATH and start zope, you would expect that path to be available. Indeed. Anyone object to this going forward? Anyone think this is a bug that should be fixed(on older versions)? I think it's a bug, but then, I don't recall ever stumbling on it in practice. alright... if noone objects, I'm filing this as a bug and making the change. will wait another 24 hours. -w ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: Zope 2.10.0 released
thanks guys...know this one was a long time in the coming. -w Andreas Jung wrote: Hi all, on behalf of Zope developer community I am pleased to announce the release of Zope 2.10.0. You can download Zope 2.10.0 from: http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.10.0/ Some new features of Zope 2.10: - ZPT implementation based on Zope 3 - experimental WSGI and Twisted integration - Zope 3.3, Five 1.5 integration - clock server - lots of minor improvements and fixes - replaced several Zope 2 modules with their sister implementation of Zope 3 For more information on what is new in this release, see the CHANGES.txt files for the release: http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.10.0/CHANGES.txt Please bring all the bugs you have found to the Zope bugtracker: http://collector.zope.org/Zope For more information on the available Zope releases, guidance for selecting the right distribution and installation instructions, please see: http://www.plope.com/Books/2_7Edition/InstallingZope.stx Supported Python versions: Zope 2.10 requires Python 2.4.3 (Python 2.4.2 is still acceptable). Older Python versions are no longer supported. Using Python 2.5 is also *unsupported*. Many thanks to all everyone who contributed. Very special thanks go to Philipp von Weiterhausen for his continuous and outstanding work in the Zope 2 *and* Zope 3 world. ___ Zope-Announce maillist - Zope-Announce@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce Zope-Announce for Announcements only - no discussions (Related lists - Users: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope Developers: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
