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What about Sleazy D - I've Lost Control on Trax? I always thought
that Losing Control was sort of a remake of that...
Dan has I think before cited that as an influence, but if you take the two
tracks it could hardly be considered a remake or even sample-fodder. Sleazy D
I've Lost Control and
I *just* posted the other day that I didn't think these were out and about
yet. They are and they are VERY nice indeed. Mine just went from my mailbox
to my player and it will be there for a while.
jeff
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what happens if you ignore their letters? what powers do they have?
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Ask any bar owner who ASCAP or BMI extorts money from every year regardless
of whether or not they play published music in their establishments. You do
not have to be right, they have more money for lawyers than you do.
mt
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It may well be that Funky Drummer is the most sampled bit ever,
but it's not true that drums and bass (i.e. the rhythm section to us
old timers) can be copied without limitation. Not now, not ever.
Of course, the practical side comes into play. In the old days, if
you snipped four bars and put
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on kerri chandler raw grooves #4 theres a track called are you ready?
that same sample DeLaSoul uses on a track on there new cd. anyone know
where that sample is from.
thanks
ryan burns
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late last year i heard dan bell was releasing a record called i am
original anyone know when this is comming out?
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Just had a listen to Wink's track and it is a pretty straight rip-off of
Phreak.
Its kind of a shame that Dan spent so much of his letter going into the
history between himself and Josh Wink and drawing strained parallels between
other tracks because, is this new case, he's definitely got a strong
Memo from Alex Bond of PricewaterhouseCoopers
Start of message text
Anyone heard the new Juan track coming on Metroplex?
Model 600. Is it a remake or something, the catalogue no. is an old one and
it's called 'update'?
Can't wait!..
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Hope this wasn't already posted. This may be some added comfort for any of the
other 157 (I had 4 other friends with me) folks that showed up for the Kevin
and Carl night at the Shelter. Thanks to mike at burnlab.net for forwarding
this. BTW Richie was there that night and we were talking
I remember seeing an interview with (I think) Bootsy Collins, who remarked
that (at least it used to be) you couldn't sue someone over a drum pattern
or a bass line. Melodies and lyrics only. So if there's not much more to a
track than beats and bass, you put it out at your own risk. That's
even though maybe you can't sew for stealing intellectual property when it
comes to drums and baselines, you can still sew for the mechanical
rights it's a recording someone else did, you stole it... if you program
the excact same drum pattern, nobody can do anything, but if you sample it
from
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could somebody please repost the tracklisting for this?
jt
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The issue was not sampling, the issue was reprogramming the hook(which was
the bassline and drums) and using it as the basis of another song. According
to the old interpretation, that was not actionable. Drums and Bass were not
copyrighted, just melody and lyrics.
If you record yourself
#I don't see anyone complaining about Global
#Communication's Maiden Voyage
#(8 07 and 5 23 on the 76 14 album; you know the one I'm
#talking about).
So what's the story with Maiden Voyage?
RE Dan Bell Vs Wink--blatant rip off, but with
lousy beats and some decent spatial efx...thanks for
Just had a listen to Wink's track and it is a pretty straight rip-off of
Phreak.
Agreed.
Its kind of a shame that Dan spent so much of his letter going into the
history between himself and Josh Wink and drawing strained parallels between
other tracks because, is this new case, he's
Maybe it's fine time to start understanding the there are artists whose bread
and butter is composed music and there are artists whose bread and butter is
remixes, and there are artists who do both.
To me any track that uses a loop for the basis of the track is a remix not an
original. Someone
Maybe it's fine time to start understanding the there are artists whose
bread and butter is composed music and there are artists whose bread and
butter is remixes, and there are artists who do both.
Agreed, but its a pre-requisite for this sort of remixing that the
original artist,
a) won't
Agreed.
Sample recognition I think is important but I'm not militant. If it's
unrecognizeable, then okay I say.
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From: Sean
Q : I placed an order with Submerge yesterday and received the auto message
with the total, minus shipping charges, and I'm now waiting for the email
telling me how much I owe total. What is the average time it has taken any
of you who live outside of Michigan but within the US to receive packages
By the way - I noticed that Submerge doesn't have any Direct Beat records
available or have they stopped selling them? Anyone know what is up with DB
right now? Haven't seen anything new recently (or am I not looking in the
right direction?).
MEK
Hi all,
Received a mail from Matt Brookman (the General Manager at Ovum records -
label to which the Josh Wink song ['superfreak' is licensed) - and he stated
that he wanted my phone and mailing address, as I posted the song on the
web. Is there any legal implications that I should be aware of?
Direct beat is done for the time being, so if you
find any records on that label you are lucky. i'm
not sure if the burden's will get back up and
running any time soon. I'm sure they are busy
with other projects at the moment. I still want
to know what happened to the wildplanet 12 what
was
Thursday, April 11, 2002, 9:19:15 AM, a knob was tweaked and out came:
DD Received a mail from Matt Brookman (the General Manager at Ovum records -
DD label to which the Josh Wink song ['superfreak' is licensed) - and he stated
DD that he wanted my phone and mailing address, as I posted the song
Interesting...you're not actually going to give him the info..? Maybe he
needs a pen pal;) He sure found out quick you posted it there...is there a
rat among us :( ?
Peace,
Alex
www.fulcruminn.net
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I'd send him a number and address, I'm not sure it would be mine though...
maybe he'd like to talk directly to your lawyer?
thats the addy I would give
:)
-Joe
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Just be thankful you haven't had a call from Dan Bell too, that would really
suck :)
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or possibly give him dan bell's number and address so that he could explain
that both songs are technically his ;)!
=pete
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Maybe it's fine time to start understanding the there are artists whose bread
and butter is composed music and there are artists whose bread and
butter is remixes, and there are
artists who do both.
And just for the record I have no beef any of that-- heavy sampling,
inspiration,
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From: Sam MacCutchan
Sent:
I always thought that was actually Kraftwerk themselves under a different
guise. Same track really, just different mixes. Interestingly enough, that 10
Speed version of Tour De France originally came out on the old Detroit
label Quality. I don't actually have the record, so I wonder what the
The newest issue of Wired (with, eech, Moby on the cover) is their music
issue. Good article on laptop techno music and the software/programming
involved feat. Kid 606, Monolake, and others (can't recall all in it). Plus
a little history on some machines that have made the sound of house and
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Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 9:27 PM
Subject: [313] strings of life
me and my questions...
So, i heard this remix of strings of life this saturday (played by
Wow, I've been hearing this new dance/electronic music thing might catch on.
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I second the below. With all due respect to Dan, and believe me I respect
him alot, I could not help but think of how one could make the argument
that Losing Control was a remake of Sleazy D's I've lost control
I've heard Wink's superfreak and it is terrible.
just my opinion, Jason Attaman
kit clayton too, i recall
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The newest issue of Wired (with, eech, Moby on the cover) is their music
issue.
me and my questions...
So, i heard this remix of strings of life this saturday (played by smos
and
baby b, two belgian dj´s). It sounded very new, happy and latin-like
(with
e-piano).. Does anyone have a clue wich remix this could be?
i
Salsa Life?
No, i think he means that remix
Eric Scuccimarra wrote:
Regarding the bass line issue - what about Ice Ice Baby and Under
Pressure?
Before I made the post, I went looking to see if I could find the (Bootsy?
Clinton?) quote I paraphrased. I couldn't find it, but I did see somewhere an
allusion to changes in the law that
I just finished reading this issue..
In particular the Six Machines that changed the music world article
was rather good, lots of mentions of detroit artists. They talk about
how Derrick May's To Be or Not to Be was hard to master because of the
phasing was to great it would cause the mastering
Ok, Macqueen has already jumped on me for my losing control comment so I
guess I should emphasize that I said one **COULD** make the argument that
Losing Control was a remake of Sleazy D's I've lost Control. One could.
I wouldnt.
Happy Matt!!!??? ;-)
Dr. Attaman
Indeed, you're right. I guess I always thought of it as a Detroit label cause
it featured several Detroit artists like Don Was and Ken Collier.
-J
on 4/11/02 3:57 PM, Dan Sicko at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quality was out of Canada actually ...
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So what's the story with Maiden Voyage?
It is an uncredited remake of Tangerine Dream's Love On A Real Train (Risky
Business).
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At 8:36 PM + 4/11/2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Indeed, you're right. I guess I always thought of it as a Detroit label cause
it featured several Detroit artists like Don Was and Ken Collier.
-J
on 4/11/02 3:57 PM, Dan Sicko at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.technoradio.org/audio/titonton_duvante_-_live_at_kwur_kanned_beat
z_3_-_2-21-02-TECHNO_RADIO.mp3
Is one ok? :)
on 4/11/02 4:34 AM, R - Type at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Why doesn¹t mills make a letter to samuel sessions? :)
jake
on 4/11/02 1:23 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
maybe if dan bell's people were that efficient, he would have to always
whine about getting ripped off! (j/k)
On Thu, 11 Apr 2002, Dennis Donohue wrote:
Hi all,
can anyone point me to some good resources about arthur besides allmusic.
in particular I'm looking for the album which Wild Combination is on? and
some of his other upbeat stuff which is similar?
ta
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They are just really swamped with orders right now!
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Q : I placed an order with Submerge yesterday and received the auto message
with the total, minus shipping charges, and I'm now waiting for the email
telling me how much I owe total.
KJ emailed Ovum about this issue. If you want to read Josh Wink's reaction
to Dan's letter, go here:
http://technotourist.org/modules.php?op=modloadname=Newsfile=articlesid=1
65mode=flatorder=0
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KJ emailed Ovum about this issue. If you want to read Josh Wink's reaction
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ok this has been already discussed to
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