Re: HELP ON FOOTER FORMULA

Hi Andrea, Work fine. Thanks Ferdinando Il 08/02/2021 19:32, Andrea ha scritto: Hi Ferdinando, One Way is to write, on variable name, in the footer cell a variable name where you set your costume value. Andrea Il giorno 08 feb 2021, alle ore 16:43, stardata.info via 4D_Tech <4d_tech

HELP ON FOOTER FORMULA

Hi All, I use 4D V16 on windows. In one listbox i need to put in one footer cell a value or a formula that is a CUSTOM FORMULA or CUSTOM VALUE. Someone know how i can do? Thanks Ferdinando ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNU

Re: Need Help! - Customer upgraded from Win 7 to Win 10 Pro. 4D v13.6 Built Server Won't Run

Thank you everyone who responded. We tried to disable DEP and that did not solve the issue. The first time the issue arose, it looked like it was running as a service - (the status said it was running), but no one could log into the built server. Clients would receive a -10002 error. Becau

Re: Need Help! - Customer upgraded from Win 7 to Win 10 Pro.

As an interim solution you might be able to run a virtual PC with Win 7. -- D Samson ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) New Forum: https://discuss.4D.com Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.co

Re: Need Help! - Customer upgraded from Win 7 to Win 10 Pro. 4D v13.6 Built Server Won't Run

. >>> On Jan 19, 2021, at 8:21 AM, Ken Eyring via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I am trying to help a business that has a Built 4D Server (v13.6) that was >>> developed by another developer. >>> >>>

Re: Need Help! - Customer upgraded from Win 7 to Win 10 Pro. 4D v13.6 Built Server Won't Run

n > > > > > > On 01/19/21 10:36 AM, Kenneth Geiger wrote: >> I believe that 4D v13 and Win10 are not really compatible. I also believe >> that 4D v15 is the oldest version supported on Win10. >>> On Jan 19, 2021, at 8:21 AM, Ken Eyring via 4D_Tech <

Re: Need Help! - Customer upgraded from Win 7 to Win 10 Pro. 4D v13.6 Built Server Won't Run

. I also believe that 4D v15 is the oldest version supported on Win10. On Jan 19, 2021, at 8:21 AM, Ken Eyring via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: I am trying to help a business that has a Built 4D Server (v13.6) that was developed by another developer. It was running fine on

Re: Need Help! - Customer upgraded from Win 7 to Win 10 Pro. 4D v13.6 Built Server Won't Run

Thank you for responding. The structure and data files are NOT set to Read Only. They are read-write. Any other suggestions are greatly appreciated. I'm at a loss... I'm assuming that v13.6 should run on Win 10 Pro. On 01/19/21 10:27 AM, Spencer Hinsdale wrote: Does this maybe mean the S

Re: Need Help! - Customer upgraded from Win 7 to Win 10 Pro. 4D v13.6 Built Server Won't Run

I believe that 4D v13 and Win10 are not really compatible. I also believe that 4D v15 is the oldest version supported on Win10. > On Jan 19, 2021, at 8:21 AM, Ken Eyring via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > I am trying to help a business that has a Built 4D Serve

Re: Need Help! - Customer upgraded from Win 7 to Win 10 Pro. 4D v13.6 Built Server Won't Run

Does this maybe mean the Structure is locked? Restart the computer to release any hold Windows has on it. Get Properties and change Permissions as needed. Set the preference inside 4D Server to Allow Read Only Structure... On 1/19/21, 7:21 AM, "4D_Tech on behalf of Ken Eyring via 4D_Tech"

Need Help! - Customer upgraded from Win 7 to Win 10 Pro. 4D v13.6 Built Server Won't Run

I am trying to help a business that has a Built 4D Server (v13.6) that was developed by another developer. It was running fine on Friday - while running on Win 7. Their IT upgraded the server OS to Win 10 Pro, Windows Experience Pack 120.2212.551.0. When I attempt to launch the built server

Re: Auto numbering method acting weirdly. Help needed

he last one in existence was 26 for the letter A. > It behaves fine for single letters and combinations: AB, ED, etc. > > Everything works perfectly well except when I enter the letters CH. > When I do the number field gets the value 207119, and up, whereas it should > currently be CH

Re: Auto numbering method acting weirdly. Help needed

perfectly well except when I enter the letters CH. > When I do the number field gets the value 207119, and up, whereas it should > currently be CH-271 > > I need your help figuring our why it behaves this way only for those letters. > > Thank you in advance for your help. *

Auto numbering method acting weirdly. Help needed

enter the letters CH. When I do the number field gets the value 207119, and up, whereas it should currently be CH-271 I need your help figuring our why it behaves this way only for those letters. Thank you in advance for your help. Stephane Potvin C_TEXT($prefix) C_LONGINT($recordNumber

Re: All plugins are throwing a License or privilege error on windows. Was: Dll error help

my first thought is windows creates 'shadow' directories. and that the plugins are being moved/referenced from there when the program runs - which breaks the expected path 4D is using to try to access the plugins. I would consider this idea to more likely if the same database works on a Mac Chip

All plugins are throwing a License or privilege error on windows. Was: Dll error help

This is an old database v12 that I am trying to upgrade to v16 and later. I had upgraded it to v14 on a Mac, but when I moved it to Windows Server 2008 I got the dll error that started this thread and as noted that foundation’s Extras plugin was throwing a license or privilege error. Walt... i

Re: Dll error help

John, Which version of Foundation Shell are you using? Foundation 5 or later does not require Foundation Extras.bundle anymore. Thanks, Walt > On Mar 28, 2020, at 2:39 AM, JOHN BAUGHMAN via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > If I click ok to the error window, database startup, but t

Re: Dll error help

is not ASINTPPC.dll what is also known as altura mac2win? is it possible that there are multiple version of altura installed on the PC and accessible via $PATH, and that the one shipped with 4D is being overshadowed by an incompatible one? 2020/03/28 18:39、JOHN BAUGHMAN via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@l

Dll error help

Plugins folder throws a “License or privilege” error (-9949). Do not know if the 2 are related. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks John ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options

Re: NEED HELP

4d.com> wrote: > > > > No, I didn't. So will try that. Thanks > > > >> On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 3:37 PM Randy Kaempen > >> wrote: > >> > >> Tom, > >> > >>> On Feb 23, 2020, at 5:33 PM, Tom Dillon via 4D_Tec

Re: NEED HELP

Are you running low on disk space? On Sun, 23 Feb 2020 at 23:34, Tom Dillon via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > I am not sure if this is the right forum but I need help on a problem > that's just cropped up. > > I have been successfully building stand alone app

Re: NEED HELP

> Tom, >> >>> On Feb 23, 2020, at 5:33 PM, Tom Dillon via 4D_Tech < >> 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: >>> >>> I am not sure if this is the right forum but I need help on a problem >>> that's just cropped up. >>> >>> I

Re: NEED HELP

No, I didn't. So will try that. Thanks On Sun, Feb 23, 2020 at 3:37 PM Randy Kaempen wrote: > Tom, > > > On Feb 23, 2020, at 5:33 PM, Tom Dillon via 4D_Tech < > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > > > I am not sure if this is the right forum but I need help o

Re: NEED HELP

Tom, > On Feb 23, 2020, at 5:33 PM, Tom Dillon via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > I am not sure if this is the right forum but I need help on a problem > that's just cropped up. > > I have been successfully building stand alone apps using V13.3 f

Re: NEED HELP

it is really important to specify the platform (OS) but assuming this is Mac, maybe you have some unexpected files inside one of your database folders (components, resources, plugins, extras, etc) that can not be copied. On Feb 24, 2020, at 8:33, Tom Dillon via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com

NEED HELP

I am not sure if this is the right forum but I need help on a problem that's just cropped up. I have been successfully building stand alone apps using V13.3 for years now and suddenly each time I try to "Build the app" it starts coping over file but just before it finishes 4d

Re: Help Tips for list boxes?

Thanks folks! OBJECT SET HELP TIP works well but I'll check out AJUL_Tip Lab as well to see what it offers. Pat On Wed, 4 Sep 2019 at 12:18, Maurice Inzirillo - AJAR via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Hi Pat, > > We provide exactly such example with AJU

Re: Help Tips for list boxes?

, Maurice Inzirillo -- AJAR S.A. https://ch-fr.4d.com twitter: ajar_info Tél : +41 (0)323422684 > On 3 Sep 2019, at 16:21, Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > There's no Help Tip option for list boxes ... Anybody know of a way to roll > your own? The On

AW: Help Tips for list boxes?

You cannot assign a help tip to a list box in design. But using OBJECT SET HELP TIP. Please have a look at the description of this command and at sample 2. Achim -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: 4D_Tech <4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com> Im Auftrag von Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech Ge

Re: Can Somebody Please Help Me

attempt to log in. > > I want to modify my subscriptions but cannot do anything about them. > I am completely out of ideas as to what I can do. > > I sure would appreciate some help > > Thank you very much, > > Jack > > **

Can Somebody Please Help Me

), changed passwords numerous times but the site continues to give me the message "wrong password" when I attempt to log in. I want to modify my subscriptions but cannot do anything about them. I am completely out of ideas as to what I can do. I sure would appreciate some help

Re: Help Tips for list boxes?

Yeah I have 1 window which I hide/show and move based on the object I'm displaying the help for. I also have a feature which allows me to enter/update the help tip text as I or my users are using the app. Adam Bevan Developer & CEO, Argus Productions Inc. <https://www.

Re: Help Tips for list boxes?

Hi Adam, yeah ... I was thinking of doing that. Do you have one window for the help tip which you hide and show was required, or create a new one each time? Pat On Tue, 3 Sep 2019 at 17:50, Adam Bevan via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > AJUI_Tip looks nice but it requires

Re: Help Tips for list boxes?

AJUI_Tip looks nice but it requires a picture object on every page on every form you want it to work. I instead use a window in a new process and call it on mouse enter and leave. Similar result. as well, my custom help tips don't disappear after 5 seconds. Adam Bevan Developer & C

Re: Help Tips for list boxes?

Pat, Perhaps you can create custom help tips with SVG overlays? You could also try using AJUI_Tip or just take a look at it for some inspiration: https://ch-fr.4d.com/ajuitip It may be worth checking out the 4D KnowledgeBase or 4D Blog too for possible options? Regards, Narinder Chandi

Help Tips for list boxes?

There's no Help Tip option for list boxes ... Anybody know of a way to roll your own? The On Mouse enter event works, so it could be managed in there. Pat -- * CatBase - Top Dog in Data Publishing tel: +44 (0) 207 118 7889 w:

Re: 4d-write-like-toolbar-example-for-4d-write-pro help [SOLVED]

Hi Jeremy, Thank you! That was way too obvious for my simple mind! So the key is to make sure that the 4D Writ Pro area is focusable and the Toolbar is not. In that way, as Jeremy said, the context fro the actions will be on the 4D Write Pro area. Now I will have to reread the 4D Write Pro do

Re: 4d-write-like-toolbar-example-for-4d-write-pro help

Hi Jeremy, > The “classic” 4D Write tool example for Write Pro doesn’t appear to be a > component. (That’s because project form “Main” has “Published as subform in > the host database” **unchecked**. Yes, I set the property to be available and compiled it into a component. > These standard act

Re: 4d-write-like-toolbar-example-for-4d-write-pro help

Hi John, The “classic” 4D Write tool example for Write Pro doesn’t appear to be a component. (That’s because project form “Main” has “Published as subform in the host database” **unchecked**. Project methods and 4D Standard actions appear to be how the toolbar and the Write Pro communicate. O

4d-write-like-toolbar-example-for-4d-write-pro help

Hi All, 4D v17.1 windows (and Mac) (dot release only as client will not use “R” releases) This means that I cannot use any 4D Write Pro functionality included in any of the “R” release including the 4D Write Pro widget. So I am trying to use the “classic” 4D Write toolbar - as a component - in

Re: Using the HELP Menu for my own purposes.

The exception to the menu being empty for a standard build (with no additional components or plugins) is the SVG Component. It has a help file of its own inside 4D that needs to be removed at some point. Show 4D Contents and navigate to 4D/Contents/Components/4D SVG.4dbase. Show Contents of 4D

Re: Using the HELP Menu for my own purposes.

> the Help menu is empty if you build the application. Are you sure Miyako? Since what version? We noticed that the Hep menu on builded applications was showing help items belonging to plugins (and components). My solution was, before the build start, execute a method that look for any .

Re: Using the HELP Menu for my own purposes.

;4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > Is there any way out there (can be a Plugin) to do this? > In the current version the HELP menu is utterly useless to my users. ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://

Re: Using the HELP Menu for my own purposes.

the Help menu is empty if you build the application. if you don't build the application, the end user is using "4D", not your custom application. > 2019/04/29 7:51、Herr Alexander Heintz via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>のメール: > > Is there any way out there (can be

Using the HELP Menu for my own purposes.

Hi everyone, My clients are sometimes distracted by the HELP menu. Amongst calling documentation for several Plugins (i know how to get rid of that) it also shows stuff like License Management, Online Documentation (4D), Welcome Assistant, etc… I NEED to get rid of all that and only have 3

Re: Help LEP macOS to open the Emoji viewer

4D Tech mailing list wrote > it seems the code > > CGEventPost(kCGHIDEventTap, e); > > cancels the pressed state of control, option, fn, command (but not shift) > implicitly. > > I've changed the code to support a combination of modifiers. > > https://github.com/miyako/4d-plugin-virtual-key >

Re: Help LEP macOS to open the Emoji viewer

thanks for your informative reply. I've tried your plugin, but it seems that the plugin only accepts one modifier key. This code opens (only with debugger) the macOS Spotlight and close spotlight after you step over "POST VIRTUAL KEY" $modifiers:=Command key mask+Control key mask kVK_Space:=0x00

Re: Help LEP macOS to open the Emoji viewer

4D Tech mailing list wrote > P.S. > > to post keystrokes programmatically > > https://github.com/miyako/4d-plugin-virtual-key > > to do it the proper way (it seems, not tested) > > https://developer.apple.com/documentation/appkit/nsapplication/1428455-orderfrontcharacterpalette?language=objc M

Re: Help LEP macOS to open the Emoji viewer

P.S. to post keystrokes programmatically https://github.com/miyako/4d-plugin-virtual-key to do it the proper way (it seems, not tested) https://developer.apple.com/documentation/appkit/nsapplication/1428455-orderfrontcharacterpalette?language=objc

Re: Help LEP macOS to open the Emoji viewer

which version of macOS? the code is not allowed in Terminal on Mojave; osascript is not allowed to send keystrokes (1002) https://www.reddit.com/r/MacOS/comments/9lwlsv/script_editor_not_allowed_to_send_keystrokes/ on top of that, to grant automation to 4D, you must have a specific key info.pl

Help LEP macOS to open the Emoji viewer

Hi, I like to display the charmap from macOS to allow the insert of special chars in Write Pro. When I paste this in terminal it works osascript -e 'tell app "System Events" to keystroke space using {control down, command down}‘ When I try this with LEP, nothing

RE: AWS Experts - Need a little help

d.com> Cc: Julio Carneiro Subject: Re: AWS Experts - Need a little help Exactly. You need to assign your EC2 VM to a security group that enables the ports 4D requires. > On Jan 14, 2019, at 8:56 PM, Spencer Hinsdale via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > > did y

Re: AWS Experts - Need a little help

Exactly. You need to assign your EC2 VM to a security group that enables the ports 4D requires. > On Jan 14, 2019, at 8:56 PM, Spencer Hinsdale via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > > did you edit Security Groups to add 4D ports 19812 to 19814? > >> On Jan 14, 2019, at 2:15 PM, Rand

Re: AWS Experts - Need a little help

Have you setup the firewall inbound rule to allow the application access via the program and services tab and also the ports range eg 19812-19814 on the protocols tab. Paul -- Sent from: http://4d.1045681.n5.nabble.com/4D-Tech-f1376241.html **

Re: AWS Experts - Need a little help

did you edit Security Groups to add 4D ports 19812 to 19814? > On Jan 14, 2019, at 2:15 PM, Randy Engle via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Spencer, thanks for the tip. > > Yes, I'm using the public IP address > (Same address that I use to connect via RDC) > > No workie! > > ;-(

RE: AWS Experts - Need a little help

Spencer, thanks for the tip. Yes, I'm using the public IP address (Same address that I use to connect via RDC) No workie! ;-( Randy Engle Check that you are using the public ip displayed on the desktop not on server admin window...  **

Re: AWS Experts - Need a little help

Check that you are using the public ip displayed on the desktop not on server admin window... On 1/14/19, 1:01 PM, "4D_Tech on behalf of Randy Engle via 4D_Tech" <4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com on behalf of 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: I'm testing an app on AWS (LightSail Account)

AWS Experts - Need a little help

I'm testing an app on AWS (LightSail Account) I've got a very lightweight app running on 4D Server (v17) Windows running on an instance of AWS. I'm not able to connect 4D Client (from my location) to the 4D Server on AWS I've setup all of the standard firewall items, TCP/UDP, etc, Including tu

Re: [off-ish] Regex help

Hello Chip, Did you try this: $x:=Split string($pathname;Folder separator) Vincent ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub:

Re: [off-ish] Regex help

An alternative to ungreedy would be to exclude colons from the strings to be matched: $folderPathMotif:="([^:]*:)" Jeremy > On 28 Nov 2018, at 19:27, Peter Bozek via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 7:30 PM Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech < > 4d_tech@lists.

RE: [off-ish] Regex help

t;> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 7:29 PM >> To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> >> Cc: Chip Scheide <4d_o...@pghrepository.org> >> Subject: Re: [off-ish] Regex help >> >> Thanks Kirk, >> >> That will be useful, but mostly I am w

RE: [off-ish] Regex help

Original Message- > From: 4D_Tech [mailto:4d_tech-boun...@lists.4d.com] On Behalf Of Chip > Scheide via > 4D_Tech > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2018 7:29 PM > To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > Cc: Chip Scheide <4d_o...@pghrepository.org> > Subject:

Re: [off-ish] Regex help

Peter Thanks for that explanation! On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 20:27:40 +0100, Peter Bozek wrote: > On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 7:30 PM Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech < > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > >> Thanks Kirk, >> >> According to Wiki : >> . - matches any single character >> ( ) - defines a marked subexpre

Re: [off-ish] Regex help

On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 7:30 PM Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Thanks Kirk, > > According to Wiki : > . - matches any single character > ( ) - defines a marked subexpression > * - matches the preceding element zero or more times > so... as I read the definitions... > "(.

Re: [off-ish] Regex help

ing($text;$aPos{1};$aLen{1}) > > $start:=$aPos{0}+$aLen{0} // move up to the next match > > End while > > > On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 9:51 AM Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech < > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > >> can anyone who has a clue help me?

Re: [off-ish] Regex help

} // move up to the next match End while On Wed, Nov 28, 2018 at 9:51 AM Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > can anyone who has a clue help me? > > I am looking at some code: > Match regex($folderPathMotif;$File_Path;1;$path_pos;$path_len) > >

[off-ish] Regex help

can anyone who has a clue help me? I am looking at some code: Match regex($folderPathMotif;$File_Path;1;$path_pos;$path_len) where: ARRAY LONGINT($path_pos;0) ARRAY LONGINT($path_len;0) $folderPathMotif:="(.*:)" and File_Path is, well.., a file path on a Mac (so folder separator is

Re: Help->v11 to v17 Upgrade or New?

On Oct 23, 2018, at 2:00 PM, Tom Benedict wrote: > Dani Beaubien writes: >> >> I use the external git client for diffs against historical commits and I use >> the >> Code Analysis component for diffs between what is in the 4D structure >> compares against the last export to the external folder.

Re: Help->v11 to v17 Upgrade or New?

Dani Beaubien writes: > >I use the external git client for diffs against historical commits and I use >the >Code Analysis component for diffs between what is in the 4D structure >compares against the last export to the external folder. We did a similar thing based on Thomas Maul's MethodHistory c

Re: Help->v11 to v17 Upgrade or New?

4D Tech mailing list wrote > I am not uploading directly from 4D. I thought about implementing that but > decided against it since 4D is going that direction them selves. Waiting > to see what they come up with. I understood the same from teh Summit. Anyway, there is an existing module in QS_Tool

Re: Help->v11 to v17 Upgrade or New?

Folks, I would like to suggest you (if you haven’t already) check out a paid product from the Foundation Shell App Store by Robert Livingston for a 4D database solution to storing the text from all your methods and object methods automatically. ArchiveMethod

Re: Help->v11 to v17 Upgrade or New?

I am not uploading directly from 4D. I thought about implementing that but decided against it since 4D is going that direction them selves. Waiting to see what they come up with. My workflow is to use the Code Analysis component to export all my code, 4D Structure and form properties (gathered

Re: Help->v11 to v17 Upgrade or New?

Robert, What I was dropping not-so-subtle hints about is working out the interface for the GitHub API, which I found - unwelcoming, to support exporting directly to GitHub from 4D and allowing me to pull from it as well. All the tools for this are already in 4D, it's just a matter of working out th

Re: Help->v11 to v17 Upgrade or New?

Kirk, I think any mechanism that can export 4D code as text (plain text, JSON, XML, etc) can be used via GitHub to at least manage method changes. So, with the new v17r3 we have a native way to share the entire structure which will allow us to use version control. However, the limitations seem t

Re: Help->v11 to v17 Upgrade or New?

Hi Kirk, 4D Tech mailing list wrote > Did I just hear you say something about uploading direct from 4D into > GitHub... 🙄 It is not what I understood. He used GitHub to manage his version. But, if you're right, I'm also very interested by this ;-) - Patrick EMANUEL ---

Re: Help->v11 to v17 Upgrade or New?

Dani, On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 8:22 AM Dani Beaubien via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > I have been using GitHub to track changes on the exported code. I have > projects that go back years that are in GitHub. Did I just hear you say something about uploading direct from 4D into GitHub..

Re: Help->v11 to v17 Upgrade or New?

In this situation, I use Code Analysis is to find out what code has changed due to the upgrade to a newer version of 4D. Here is an example. I am moving a structure from v16 to v17 and I want to know all the changes that occur. In v16, I use the Code Analysis component to export all the methods.

Re: Help->v11 to v17 Upgrade or New?

About QS_Toolbox, the one I really know, there is a bunch of tools in the Structure Analysis part. It works from V15 to V17, but nothing has been added since V16R6. QS_Toolbox performed very few update for you. Its goal is to identify wha

Re: Help->v11 to v17 Upgrade or New?

Patrick or Dani, how might your tool help identify what needs to change? R Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 19, 2018, at 2:09 AM, Patrick Emanuel via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > Some tools can help you like QS_Toolbox from me or CodeAnalysis from Dani > Beau

Re: Help->v11 to v17 Upgrade or New?

4D Tech mailing list wrote > So, there are more than 700 lines of code with the deprecated “_o_” > prefix. Perhaps I could make a lot of that go away via Search/Replace (a > feature that I normally don’t use). Some tools can help you like QS_Toolbox from me or CodeAnalysis from Dani Bea

Re: Help->v11 to v17 Upgrade or New?

It was Dani! Yeah, 4D is awesome at this stuff. We get upgrades old, old versions all the time and our current structure just opens these old data files, and 4d does its magic to uid them, unicode them, de'subtable them. no problem. > On Oct 18, 2018, at 2:19 PM, Robert ListMail via 4D_Tec

Re: Help->v11 to v17 Upgrade or New?

Okay, I can’t find it now but someone said, "hey pop it into v17 and see if it works…" or something like that. Well, I did just that and without any changes it compiled (after toggling unicode on) and I created a built server and client and ran a few tests. Yes, as I recall, I did fix all of the

Re: Help->v11 to v17 Upgrade or New?

Robert, I am just taking on a project for a similar situation: v11 to v17. I haven't had a chance to really dive into the code yet so I'm not really sure what's there but at this point the client's intention is to essentially keep the database on 'palliative care' for the next 1 to 2 years when the

Re: Help->v11 to v17 Upgrade or New?

> Le 17 oct. 2018 à 21:45, Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> a > écrit : > > [...] > > Also, the client originally said the new database would not have to migrate > data forward from the old system and now they are wanting to have the data > too. Most of the I write the new

RE: Help->v11 to v17 Upgrade or New?

If in doubt I would vote for a rewrite, even more if the old application is poor designed. We struggle from time to time with problems caused by using legacy 4D code. E.g. sometimes there were assumptions made in the past regarding performance they are nowadays simply wrong and are causing now

Re: Help->v11 to v17 Upgrade or New?

sdale > via 4D_Tech > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2018 1:11 PM > To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > Cc: Spencer Hinsdale > Subject: Re: Help->v11 to v17 Upgrade or New? > > > 4D automatically converts Subtables. This should not be a problem. > **

Re: Help->v11 to v17 Upgrade or New?

At some point, v18(?), 4D will completely drop support for subtables. as I understand: a simple conversion to the current version will allow all the functions of existing subtables to continue working -- without -- any change to code. As noted by Tim Penner, but typo-ed :), this applies to a SIN

RE: Help->v11 to v17 Upgrade or New?

> The rest of the conversion needs to be done by the developer and consists of > replacing the subtable commands and redrawing the relationship line. This is > not automatic. See more here: http://livedoc.4d.com/4Dv17/help/Title/en/page3607.html#1693868 What we mean by “change

RE: Help->v11 to v17 Upgrade or New?

ts.4d.com> Cc: Spencer Hinsdale Subject: Re: Help->v11 to v17 Upgrade or New? 4D automatically converts Subtables. This should not be a problem. ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html

Re: Help->v11 to v17 Upgrade or New?

4D automatically converts Subtables. This should not be a problem. > On Oct 17, 2018, at 12:45 PM, Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > I have an old v11 database running on Windows that’s not particularly > well-designed and where there are more than a few subtables

Re: Help->v11 to v17 Upgrade or New?

This is a very hard question to give any advice on. There are a lot of factors that could affect the decision. Things to consider: - Complexity of the structure (# of tables, forms, methods, etc) - Are there any old style 4D extensions used? - Are there any plugins that are no longer supported? -

Help->v11 to v17 Upgrade or New?

I have an old v11 database running on Windows that’s not particularly well-designed and where there are more than a few subtables to deal with. Assuming that there is no additional budget for writing a new clean app, would you likely upgrade or re-write in v17 with the old v11 structure as guide

Re: Help?

To: 4D iNug Technical <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> Cc: Kenneth Geiger Subject: Help? Hi All, I just made a really dumb mistake. Is there some magic key-stroke(s) (Windows 10, 4D v16) to force 4D to Start in the Design Mode? TIA, Ken *

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Ken: This is why with ALL our code, we have right near the very beginning of our code the following: If(Caps Lock Down) Trace End if Of course this does not work in compiled mode. Many many years ago I learned the lesson like you did. This is now standard code. Jody > On Sep 10, 2018, at 8:

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Hi Randy, Ingo, & Tim, Thanks for your suggestions. I’ve recovered from my faux pax and have added the “Trace” back-door to all of my projects. Again, thanks much!!! Ken Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 11, 2018, at 5:45 AM, Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > >> On Sep 11

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On Sep 11, 2018, at 2:29 AM, Randy Engle wrote: > Started my app, held down alt key. > Dialog: Open Data File > Click OK > "Immediately" held down Shift-ALT-Right Mouse > Selected "Application Process" to trace > > Hit trace in first line of code on ON STARTUP Method.This is the first 3 > line

Re: Help?

TRACE End if End if 4d_tech-requ...@lists.4d.com schrieb am Tue, 11 Sep 2018 00:29:51 -0700: >Subject: Help? >Message-ID: <0662304c-e472-41b9-a1b5-b3fe30d89...@gmail.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > >Hi All, > >I just made a re

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Hi Randy, After many tries, the dialog to select the process to trace just disappears too fast. Fortunately, I been blessed (cursed) with almost total recall so I’ve just about completed re-coding what I lost. Thanks again, Ken > On Sep 10, 2018, at 6:53 PM, Randy Engle via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@

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Hi Randy, When I do this, I do see the small window to select a process to trace…but, it goes away almost instantly. I’ll try a while longer. Thanks anyway, Ken > On Sep 10, 2018, at 6:53 PM, Randy Engle via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Ken, > > I just tested this. > > FYI

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Ken, I just tested this. FYI, I'm using Windows 4D v16r6 Started my app, held down alt key. Dialog: Open Data File Click OK "Immediately" held down Shift-ALT-Right Mouse Selected "Application Process" to trace Hit trace in first line of code on ON STARTUP Method. Let me know if this works Ra

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