Re: 4D Summit 2018 Comments

2018-04-10 Thread JPR via 4D_Tech
[JPR] Hi Tim, > JPR does monitor the list, maybe he knows more about this and could comment. Yes Tim, this is true, I do monitor this list. So do not hesitate to put 'JPR' in your message when you have questions still pending after some weeks of reflexion... When I don't have the answer, I

Re: 4D Summit 2018 Comments

2018-04-10 Thread Douglas Cryer via 4D_Tech
I am very excited about ORDA. Hopefully it will help to attract more young developers. I am however somewhat cautious about the potential GOTCHAS that will undoubtedly come out from using it. A few early examples: I find the having to restart the server if an entity or property (table or

Re: Zip file with password...?

2018-04-10 Thread Koen Van Hooreweghe via 4D_Tech
Hi Robert, I had to investigate a similar request a while ago. As far as I know, ditto can only extract password encrypted zip archives, not create them. But you might try with the zip command (as Chip also mentioned): $command:="zip -r --encrypt --password "+$mypassword+"

Re: Installing a Wildcard SSL Certificate

2018-04-10 Thread Pascal Geuns via 4D_Tech
Hi Douglas, Does the server start up correctly ? How did you make the cert.pem file ? Make sure it does not contain any invisible characters and the linefeeds should be just regular linefeeds not windows linefeeds. Hope that helps. Kind Regards Pascal Geuns QualitySSL Meet me on LinkedIn

RE: 4D Summit 2018 Comments - Import XML Structure

2018-04-10 Thread Randy Engle via 4D_Tech
I tried this from several different angles (16r6) Import XML Structure works like importing records. It doesn't "update" or "merge", just imports new structure elements (Tables) Perhaps Laurent was confused at that moment?  Randy Engle, Director XC2 Software LLC – XC2LIVE! -Original

Re: 4D Summit 2018 Comments

2018-04-10 Thread Patrick Emanuel via 4D_Tech
Hi, >> naming relations is needed to take make the code readable. >Laurent's suggestion is to export the structure in XML, modify all the relation names in the text file, and reimport the structure as XML. It will be faster than to go across the complete graphical structure representation.

Re: 4D Summit 2018 Comments

2018-04-10 Thread Richard Wright via 4D_Tech
> Date: Mon, 9 Apr 2018 21:46:17 -0400 > From: Jim Crate > > On Apr 9, 2018, at 10:06 AM, Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: >> So you want an example of ORDA and changes to the 4D language? Here’s one >> form JPR’s advanced class. (Hope I am not doing

Re: 4D Summit 2018 Comments

2018-04-10 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
Finally - a Frenchman unafraid to use quotes from Proust and Yogi Berra like the curly brackets of a well formed JSON. Well done sir - well done. -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA === *We go vote - they go home*

Re: 4D Summit 2018 Comments

2018-04-10 Thread Lee Hinde via 4D_Tech
> On Apr 9, 2018, at 10:32 AM, Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Something that may not be immediately obvious is that using ORDA will reduce > the amount of code needed to query the database. In relational databases you > have to query this table, join to another

Re: 4D Summit 2018 Comments

2018-04-10 Thread Tom Swenson via 4D_Tech
What would be cool would be to create some form of overloaded operators. Say you wanted to merge two contacts (define your rules for that in the member function) Then you could say something like (I'm just making up the systax) Contact{1}.merge(contact{2}) The future looks like fun and not the

Installing a Wildcard SSL Certificate

2018-04-10 Thread Douglas Cryer via 4D_Tech
Hi folks, It has been some time since I have installed an SSL certificate with 4D and I seem to be having little success. In this case I want to use a wildcard SSL certificate so I found an article that explained what you had to do with the intermediate part of the certificate. I have

Re: 4D Summit 2018 Comments

2018-04-10 Thread Brian Young via 4D_Tech
> On Apr 9, 2018, at 6:46 PM, Jim Crate via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > On Apr 9, 2018, at 10:06 AM, Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: >> What is ORDA? It is not a “a historical sociopolitical and military >> structure of Mongol Eurasia”. This is a new

Re: 4D Summit 2018 Comments

2018-04-10 Thread Richard Wright via 4D_Tech
> Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2018 23:03:31 -0500 > From: Tim Nevels > > The 4D SQL engine is a layer above the 4D database engine. SQL statements > must be translated into a form that the 4D database engine can process. And > that can take many forms. Some would work but be super

RE: 4D Summit 2018 Comments - Import XML Structure

2018-04-10 Thread Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech
On Apr 10, 2018, at 12:40 PM, Randy Engle wrote: > I tried this from several different angles (16r6) > Import XML Structure works like importing records. > It doesn't "update" or "merge", just imports new structure elements (Tables) > > Perhaps Laurent was confused at that moment? You are right

Re: 4D Summit 2018 Comments - Import XML Structure

2018-04-10 Thread Thomas Maul via 4D_Tech
>So Laurent must have been confused and maybe thought, why create fields > with SQL when you could create tables and fields with the IMPORT STRUCTURE > command. While I did not shared that conversation, I can only imagine that there was a misunderstanding in "how to modify the XML based

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2018-04-10 Thread Ronnie Teo via 4D_Tech
Hi All, I would like to seek some help/advise on an XML issue in 4Dv15 on Windows. I have an app that is currently running in v11. XML transmission via the consumption of a hosted web service is working well. User decides to upgrade their server from Windows Server 2008r2 to 2012 and from v11

Web Service Call in 4Dv15

2018-04-10 Thread Ronnie Teo via 4D_Tech
Hi All, I would like to seek some help/advise on an XML issue in 4Dv15 on Windows. I have an app that is currently running in v11. XML transmission via the consumption of a hosted web service is working well. User decides to upgrade their server from Windows Server 2008r2 to 2012 and from v11

Re: 4D Summit 2018 Comments - Import XML Structure

2018-04-10 Thread Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech
I suggest you mention JPR in this message so that JPR will see it and perhaps pass your comments along :) Pat On 10 April 2018 at 22:33, Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > On Apr 10, 2018, at 12:40 PM, Randy Engle wrote: > > > I tried this from several different angles

Re: 4D Summit 2018 Comments - Import XML Structure

2018-04-10 Thread Julio Carneiro via 4D_Tech
I believe LR may have suggested importing XML into a new structure. That’ll give you what you want. You can then open the old structure with a 4D copy and drag methods & forms across. depending on the size (and age) of your structure, probably easier to manually rename the relations, I guess

Re: v13 - Win 7 and LEP [solution/summary]

2018-04-10 Thread Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech
Keisuke is ridiculously smart! Robert > On Apr 7, 2018, at 3:41 PM, Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Thanks for everyone who tried to help > and special thanks to Keisuke! ** 4D Internet Users