On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Phil Taylor wrote:
> Laurie Griffiths, the author of Muse was killed in a car accident
> six months ago. At the time he was on the point of releasing
> a new version of the program, and his son said he was hoping to
> complete it, but we haven't heard any more since then.
Sad
Bernard wrote:
>I quote Gardner Read, ("Music Notation") who says [to quote in
>full]:
>
>"The first ending is marked with a figure 1 and enclosed by a
>level bracket with an initial downward jog, ending wiht a
>similar jog at the repeat sign. The second ending is marked with
>a figure 2 an
On Tue, 2003-07-08 at 09:11, Bernard Hill wrote:
>> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
>>> Where does this "bang" thing come from? "!" was always called "shriek"
>>> when I were a lad.
>From a version of the "New Hacker's Dictionary"
http://www.antionline.com/jargon/bang.ph
On Tue, 2003-07-08 at 09:11, Bernard Hill wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
> > Where does this "bang" thing come from? "!" was always called "shriek"
> >when I were a lad.
>
> Yes, it's a new one to me too. I always knew it as "thwack-tung"
> although I've come
Am still catching up with last weeks postings...
John Chambers writes:
>Which does remind me of a suggestion I've long thought of making: Any
>Baroque musician is familiar with the convention that a '+' above a
>note means "Ornament this note somehow". It's a generic, unspecific
>orna
Irwin,
Laurie Griffiths, the author of Muse was killed in a car accident
six months ago. At the time he was on the point of releasing
a new version of the program, and his son said he was hoping to
complete it, but we haven't heard any more since then.
Phil Taylor
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Many thanks for the feedback! More stuff to add to my buglist.
wil
I. Oppenheim wrote:
On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Phil Taylor wrote:
Another bug: When I clicked on close after I made some changes,
I got a dialog window asking me if I really wanted to close.
I then hit "Escap
Dear Mr. Griffiths,
I was reviewing your Muse program.
As a test I opened Beethovens 7th symphony, 2nd
movement, with crude dynamics as found on this page:
http://www.ucolick.org/~sla/abcmusic/sym7mov2.html
It completely crashed your application, with a request
to inform you about it.
I'm using
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, I. Oppenheim
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
Ok, thank you for telling me! But where can I find abcm2ps? Is it possible
to download it somewhere?
abcplus.sourceforge.net is the place to be!
And then you might also want to look at my walkthrough of setting
abcm2ps up on
On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Phil Taylor wrote:
> >Another bug: When I clicked on close after I made some changes,
> >I got a dialog window asking me if I really wanted to close.
> >I then hit "Escape" and the program closed anyway!
>
> BarFly will do something similar - the escape key is interpreted
> as
On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Rickard Blixt wrote:
> Hi!
> Ok, thank you for telling me! But where can I find abcm2ps? Is it possible
> to download it somewhere?
abcplus.sourceforge.net is the place to be!
Groeten,
Irwin Oppenheim
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
~~~*
Chazzanut Online:
http://www.joods.nl/~chazz
Hi!
Ok, thank you for telling me! But where can I find abcm2ps? Is it possible
to download it somewhere?
Regards,
Rickard
- Original Message -
From: "Steve Mansfield" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: [abcusers] Lyrics?
> In me
I.Oppenheim wrote:
>> >4/ When Skinks plays a tune with different endings, on
>> >the repeat both endings get played. The same when
>> >exported to midi.
>>
>> Played correctly for me.
>
>This was the tune that I tried:
>
>X:1
>T:7:40
>M:4/4
>L:1/8
>K:Dm
>|:"Dm"D2A,DA,DA,D|F2DFDFDF|A2FA"Gm"G2DG|
>
On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Phil Taylor wrote:
> >3/ In the right pane, when the name of the tune is
> >selected, it is displayed in brown on dark blue (I guess),
> >it was not readable.
>
> Displayed in black against the (user modifiable) selection colour.
> Perfectly legible as long as the selection col
> "Phil" == Phil Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Phil> That doesn't work in BarFly either. The alignment is
Phil> disrupted because bar lines in the lyric are treated as
Phil> words. Also because neither the program nor I knows what \-
Phil> means. (It's not one of the T
>I promised to evaluate Skink; I did so on a local
>Windows XP box with the latest JRE installed.
For comparison, here's what I found on MacOS X 10.2.1,
Titanium Powerbook 867 MHz.
>1/ After I doubleclicked on the Jar file, it took 5
>seconds for Skink to startup.
About 8 secs.
>2/ When clickin
On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Phil Taylor wrote:
> John Chambers wrote:
>
> >In any case, we should encourage publishers to eliminate
> >the practice of using separated notes for vocal music. It's
> >a bad practice that doesn't help anyone read the music.
>
> Why? I personally find that as a singer I ca
John Chambers wrote:
>In any case, we should encourage publishers to eliminate
>the practice of using separated notes for vocal music. It's
>a bad practice that doesn't help anyone read the music.
Why? I personally find that as a singer I can see the vertical
connection between the note and t
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Chambers
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>
>I also have several collections of old European Jewish
>music that clearly contain reprints of the originals. The
>dates range from maybe the 1830s to the 1940s or so. The
>two styles are totally mixed, someti
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Chambers
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>Bernard Hill writes:
>| Jack Campin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>| >
>| >Some staff notation makes a distinction with different curve shapes
>| >for slur and tie, but you may need to read a lot of fine print to
>| >find it.
>
On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, John Chambers wrote:
> But in general, you can't rely on any such details
> when reading music.
That's true; but the point was that when notating music
one should strive do it the correct way.
> try to learn what rules that printer was following.
> But there's no useful infor
I. Oppenheim writes:
| On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Jack Campin wrote:
|
| > for example, vocal music usually has a separate flag
| > for each individual syllable, which looks unreadable
| > to a fluteplayer,
|
| That was indeed the convention in all old vocal music,
| but it is no longer so. Most modern ed
On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 01:10:13AM +0100, Jack Campin wrote:
>
> K:Hp ...
>
> Both of those could be handled if HP were something other than a key
> signature in ABC. In the first case it's a typesetting directive, in
> the second case it's also forcing an instrument-dependent interpretation
> of
Bernard Hill writes:
| Jack Campin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
| >
| >Some staff notation makes a distinction with different curve shapes
| >for slur and tie, but you may need to read a lot of fine print to
| >find it.
|
| The typographical difference is that ties always go head to head, slurs
| go
Bernard Hill writes:
|
| And a fermata over the final bar has no meaning either. You could put it
| over the final note, but a fermata over a barline means "a pause here"
| and that has no meaning at the end, I suggest.
Actually, that's not an uncommon thing in printed music,
though it is som
On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Jon Freeman wrote:
> > I promised to evaluate Skink; I did so on a local
> > Windows XP box with the latest JRE installed.
>
> Win 2000 Pro /JRE 1.31/ Athlone 1Ghz - 256Mb Ram
OK. My specs are:
WinXP Pro / JRE 1.4.2 / AMD K6-2 300.76 MHz - 128 MB Ram
Irwin Oppenheim
To subscr
From: "I. Oppenheim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> I promised to evaluate Skink; I did so on a local
> Windows XP box with the latest JRE installed.
Win 2000 Pro /JRE 1.31/ Athlone 1Ghz - 256Mb Ram
> 1/ After I doubleclicked on the Jar file, it took 5
> seconds for Skink to startup.
About 3 seconds. Su
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Webber
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>
>From: "Bernard Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>> >Hmm. I'm afraid this is very far from conventional in any
>general
>> >sense. I play music full of these things at least twice a week,
>> >and have rarely seen one restricted
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Chambers
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>Bernard Hill writes:
>| In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, John Chambers
>| >
>| >I opened my copy of Scots Guards, flipped a few pages, and
>| >on page 15 I found this bar in The Inverness Gathering that
>| >(with L:1/16) coul
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jack Campin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>for example, vocal music usually has a
>separate flag for each individual syllable,
This is older notation and is frowned upon today. The standard practice
for at least 50 years has been to write the notes as normal beams, and
> But why would you want to put :: at the end of the tune when :| is
> correct notation? Do you really want to see a repeat-both-ways barline
> at the end?
I don't, but just about everybody in the mid-18th century did - you
never see a single-sided repeat sign at the end of a tune. If you
want to
I promised to evaluate Skink; I did so on a local
Windows XP box with the latest JRE installed.
1/ After I doubleclicked on the Jar file, it took 5
seconds for Skink to startup.
2/ When clicking on a menu item that needs to open a
dialog window, such as "Open" or "About", it takes
about 3 seconds.
> "Bernard" == Bernard Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Bernard> But why would you want to put :: at the end of the tune
Bernard> when :| is correct notation? Do you really want to see a
Bernard> repeat-both-ways barline at the end? I think not.
In modern notation you wouldn't, bu
From: "Bernard Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Hmm. I'm afraid this is very far from conventional in any
general
> >sense. I play music full of these things at least twice a week,
> >and have rarely seen one restricted to one bar, and IIRC the
right
> >hand end either has a vertical or not, depen
On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Jack Campin wrote:
> for example, vocal music usually has a separate flag
> for each individual syllable, which looks unreadable
> to a fluteplayer,
That was indeed the convention in all old vocal music,
but it is no longer so. Most modern editions of vocal
music, group the no
From: "Bernard Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Normally, I believe, when there's a third time bar, there are no
> >repeat dots at the end of the 2nd time bar - just at the end of
the
> >first.
>
> That's not what my wee dictionary says. It has the 2nd time bar
> identical to the 1st, ie ending each
On Wed, 9 Jul 2003, Bernard Hill wrote:
> So for us the algorithm of "where does the 2nd time bar
> end?" is simple: at the end of the bar and has a downstroke only if the
> next barline is not a simple one |.
>
> And the 1st time bracket ends at the repeat-back barline :|
Seems to be a very sens
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Webber
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>
>From: "Bernard Hill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>> >How do I tell where the 2nd time bar bracket ends if it is not
>the
>> >end of the piece?
>>
>> Conventionally it goes for one bar and does not have a descender
>at the
>> right
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jack Campin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
> M:4/4
> |e2(G2 G2)Bc|
Parentheses without a number are used to slur notes.
>>> But the notes are the same!
>> If you sight-read music in 4/4, it's easier to follow the music if
>> the note that falls on the third
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jack Campin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>Gg^fa! g2G2 TA4|F2 f4F2 ABcA |Gg^fa g2G2 TA4|G2 g4 G2 ABcA
>H::
>
>Notice how easy it is to ignore the linebreaks when reading the source if
>you aren't interested. That's the point - most of the time yo
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Webber
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes
>
>Normally, I believe, when there's a third time bar, there are no
>repeat dots at the end of the 2nd time bar - just at the end of the
>first.
That's not what my wee dictionary says. It has the 2nd time bar
identical to the
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