On Thu, 2 Sep 2004, Bert Van Vreckem wrote:
Hello all,
I got a message from Toby that he would try to clean up things. However, I
don't see much improvement as of yet...
The problem is that the argyll.wisemagic.com mailserver
acts as an open relay which tranfers any incomming
spam message to
On Fri, 16 Apr 2004, Neil Jennings wrote:
I will also have to add backquote as a separator.
Just a thought - are the text spacers supposed to
have any effect on the score, or just space the abc
listing?
The backquote spacers are defined in ABC 2.0;
They should have no effect at all on the
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Don Parrish-Bell wrote:
so my next question for all of you is does anyone
know of a program that will record a MIDI stream that
is being played through the sound card and store it
into a MIDI file.
Connect your sound card to a keyboard that can record a
Midi stream onto
On Thu, 25 Mar 2004, Richard Robinson wrote:
I concur: musicxml is a wondeful development,
which will finally make it feasible to exchange scores
between different music processing software, without
loosing too much information.
http://www.qualmograph.org.uk/musicxml/
There's a small error in
On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, Tom Satter wrote:
Voice overlays. Currently there is an error in the standard.
g4 f4 | e6 e2 \
(d8 | c6) c2
w: ha-la-| lu-yoh \
lu- | -yoh
However, while this looks nice, it will not work correctly
since the will only back up to the barline, not to
On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, Steven Bennett wrote:
So... If it can only occur on tune and lyric lines, and it can only occur
where a staff break or lyric line break would be valid, then that is why I
suggested a definition along the lines of:
A backslash (\) at the end of a line means do not break
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, Tom Satter wrote:
The reason that I chose '(' for start and ')' for
end is that they are not ambiguous
Having a single '' mean reset to last '(' if given or to last
barline if not would make sense to me.
These remarks make sense.
Maybe Jef could look into changing the
On Sun, 14 Mar 2004, Phil Taylor wrote:
It's a pretty outrageous example. I don't think that parsers should
have to deal with continuations in the middle of inline fields, let
alone an example with another (non-inline) field inserted in the
middle.
In ABC 2.0, continuations and ordinary
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Jeremy Cowgar wrote:
but is it possible to create an optional breath mark? (') ... paren's
around it?
Unfortunately, this seems not to be possible with
standard ABC. Either you could write some Postscript to
define your own special symbol, or you could use a
different
On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, Jeremy Cowgar wrote:
But one question, is abc2mtex still supported? Does it support the newer
standards? What about multivoice extensions, etc???
Unfortunately, the author of abc2mtex stopped its
development. There is no support for any of the new ABC
extensions.
P.S.
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, John Walsh wrote:
As I remember, the real problems with the
continuation---apart from the incompatibility of 1.6
and 2.0---come when there was a mixed bag: several
staves, lyrics, etc.
The bottom line of that discussion was, that
continuations are of not much use
On Fri, 12 Mar 2004, Manuel Reiter wrote:
I imagine this could be useful for
- mid-line changes of key or meter
This is now handled by [K: ] and [M: ]
- mid-line program-specific directives e.g. for abcmidi
This is now handled by [I: ]
Maybe someone could state shortly why distinguishing
On Wed, 10 Mar 2004, Steven Bennett wrote:
I'm in the process of writing Yet Another ABC Parser
as part of a larger project I've been working on for
a while.
Hi Steve,
As the person responsible for the ABC 2.0 draft spec, I
find it great that you are investing time in the
development of ABC.
Dear Tom,
Looking around, I found ABCPlus and started working
toward that specification. Today I saw the post by
Irwin about ABC 2.0 So, my question is - Are there
really two competing specs?
No, these are not competing specs, but rather two
documents which serve different goals.
ABC Plus
On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Stephen Kellett wrote:
However given that this is the intended
final solution for music rendering, I thought folks may be interested.
I lifted this from Slashdot (http://www.slashdot.org).
Stephen, thank you for drawing our attention to this
slashdot feature.
The whole
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Emma wrote:
Beste Emma,
d:\muziek\abcm2ps\abcm2ps.exe %1 -O d:\temp\Out.ps d:\muziek\abc2psLog.txt
d:\muziek\ghost\gsview\gsview32.exe d:\temp\Out.ps
If I run the file, I get the message that there was no input file
specified.
You should run the .bat file with the
On Thu, 2 Oct 2003, Barry Say wrote:
Under what circumstances would you want a word or
symbol in the lyrics to align with a rest?
I have seen this in the case where words are spoken
are shouted or indications such as (clap) (stamp).
I think the question is why should it be forbidden?
To
-- Forwarded message --
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 20:46:58 +0100
From: Neil Jennings [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Clarification wanted on abc draft standard 2.0
Hi,
I write and distribute a shareware music program (HARMONY) whose main object was
originally the
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, Joerg Anders wrote:
Version 2.3.2 of the cost free ABC music exporting musical score
editor NoteEdit is available:
http://rnvs.informatik.tu-chemnitz.de/~jan/noteedit/noteedit.html
New features:
- export MusicXML
Wow, that is great news. You're program is
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Jon Freeman wrote:
the dissapearing backslash would be a real headache,
You mean that you have to type \\'a to get \'a ?
That would be a bug in the script that you use to
process the user input.
plus the lyrics of the song still need to display as
HTML.
It is quite
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003, Jon Freeman wrote:
I'd not want to be adding code to convert every post
in a thread (most of which don't contain abc) each
time the thread is opened.
No, that's not a good idea.
I suppose I could look to converting from abc to HTML
when a post is made
That is exactly
On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, [iso-8859-1] Forgeot Eric wrote:
you can d/l eventually only GhostScript, GhostView is not really
needed, but it's much more conveniant to use in addition to GS.
Strangely enough, the English word eventually has not
the same meaning as the French word eventuellement.
In
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I tried installing ghostscript, but it doesn't work.
All I want to do is see the postscript files
generated by abcm2ps
You need to install both ghostscript and ghostview.
Groeten,
Irwin Oppenheim
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
~~~*
Chazzanut Online:
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003, Jon Freeman wrote:
There is a user interface called gsview available for
Windows but it just makes life easier.
GSview is indeed the official name of the Ghostview
package for windows, but in the real world everybody
still calls it ghostview.
So if you want to view PS
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was wondering how I would encode the following in
accordance with 2.0 to avoid any linebreaks.
Simplest solution:
precede the example with a line
%%continueall 1
otherwise, you would have to do the following:
[V: 1] |:z4 |z4 |f2ec
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Frank Nordberg wrote:
So sorry, Eric. Although I suppose many of the
programmers here will disagree, I wouldn't say an
application is available for the average user unless
there is a ready-made and *tested* version of it for
the OS he/she is using.
You claimed in your
The page
http://www.gre.ac.uk/~c.walshaw/abc/
is working again.
Probably some admin made an error.
Irwin
On Sun, 17 Aug 2003, Peter Yarensky wrote:
I haven't seen anything about it since the notice that Chris Walshaw's abc
home page had disappeared, which I verified for myself. However, I
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Laura Conrad wrote:
Irwin == I Oppenheim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Irwin Application that operate on the level of individual
Irwin tunes, can better ignore it.
Are you assuming that all tunes fit on one page?
Nope.
If not, it seems like one very well might
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, John Walsh wrote:
So there are two examples of people who use abc2mtex for
typesetting.
But why not use Lilypond, which can do anything that
abc2mtex could do and more?
There is even a *possible* project to bring it at
least partially up to date.
Why not spend
So the question seems to be---
When combining voices and part notation, should the
voices be contained in a part, in which case the
following notation is correct:
P:A
K:C
[V:A1] C G C
[V:A2] E B E
P:B
K:Am
[V:B1] A E A
[V:B2] C G C
Or should the parts be contained in a voice,
in which
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Jack Campin wrote:
P:A
[V:V1] C G C
[V:V2] E B E
P:B
[V:V1] A E A
[V:V2] C G C
So, would it be correct to state that P: resets the
music generator when encountered in the tune body, and
that the above example should thus be equivalent to the
following:
P:A
K:C
[V:A1] C
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem with the pseudocomments as they stand is
that they aren't namespaced. Without namespacing you
run the risk of two applications using the same
pseudocomment but implementing it in different ways.
As I announced on the list, the ABC 2.0
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
K:perc basel
or something like that, and it will give me the staff I want.
abcm2ps already supports [K:perc middle=B] if I'm not
mistaken. So you would need to do is to extend it,
to support the following notation:
[K:perc middle=B stafflines=1]
On Thu, 14 Aug 2003, Ewan A. Macpherson wrote:
I was hoping to be able to use this to implement the mid-repeat variant
notation, e.g.
|: A A | B B | [1 c c] | [2 d d] | e e :|
but unfortunately, abcm2ps also puts in a thick barline after the ']'
instead of just closing the bracket.
Since
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The draft revision
- http://www.joods.nl/~chazzanut/abc/abc2-draft.html
specifies %%pagebreak in 11. ABC Stylesheet specification
That were only some hypothetical examples. I will take
them out, since they are confusing.
and %%newpage in 11.4.5.
-- Forwarded message --
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 20:34:57 +0200 (CEST)
From: Joerg Anders [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Texmaillist [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [TeX-music] Linux: noteedit-2.3.0: score layout
Version 2.3.0 of the cost free MusiXTeX exporting musical score editor NoteEdit is
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Richard Robinson wrote:
The 2 situations, tune and page, have to be kept separate somehow,
it seems to me, they're on different levels.
Yes. A newpage directive is only useful for
applications that can deal with entire tunebooks, such
as abcm2ps and potentially lilypond.
On Tue, 12 Aug 2003, Martin Tarenskeen wrote:
A similar question: are %%staves (abcm2ps) and %%score (ab2-draft)
identical ?
They are definitely not identical; the staves directive
had some subtle problems, that made it necessary to
introduce a new directive, as has been discussed on
this
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Martin Tarenskeen wrote:
Is there any concensus about what should be the notation standard for
notes in the bass key? The abc2-draft doc only describes notation in the
treble key.
Yes, and it all spelled out in section 6 (clefs) of the
standard. [K:bass middle=D] will
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, Christian Schnarrr wrote:
The lines of the alternate repeats are now (with
3.7.1-1) stopping at the next barline an don't reache
the :|[2 and |]
I found this in the abcm2ps doc (features.txt):
The repeat indication may be explicitly stopped with a ']'.
Groeten,
Irwin
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It strikes me that there are three processes to carry out -
Remove comments
Combine lines
Parse abc notation
The order that the standard implicitly assumes, is:
1/ Combine lines
2/ Parse the resulting logical line
3/ Parse pseudo comments
4/
On Wed, 13 Aug 2003, John Chambers wrote:
This would also go along with the abc2ps gimmick of
reading global formatting info from a *.fmt file.
For this and other purposes, the *.abh include files
are proposed in the new standard.
Groeten,
Irwin Oppenheim
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
~~~*
The Indiana University Library has a website with
online copies of a number of song cycles by the great
20th century composers, and even more... they have a
section with complete Opera scores, Orchestral and
Choral scores, Chamber music scores, Piano sheet music,
etc. etc...
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Jeff Bigler wrote:
2.2. Continuation of input lines If the last (non-space, non-remark)
character on a line is a backslash (\), the next line should be
appended to the current one, overwriting the backslash and any spaces
or remarks that follow it, to make one long
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Phil Taylor wrote:
$ apropos backspace
Nothing found
There probably is a keyword that will get it, but I couldn't find one.
$ apropos filter
which does the same thing as:
$ man -k filter
But the best solution is to go to:
http://www.rocketaware.com/search.htm
It has an
Thank you for the tip.
I changed it as you suggested.
Irwin
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Martin Tarenskeen wrote:
Found it. I would suggest to slightly change the section about the
defaults for each clef, to improve readability and avoid confusion. I
would change the following html code
Defaults are
Issue up to discussion.
What should be the meaning of the following fragment:
P:A
[V:V1] C G C
[V:V2] E B E
P:B
[V:V1] A E A
[V:V2] C G C
Or differently put:
How, according to you, should P: and V: interact?
Groeten,
Irwin Oppenheim
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
~~~*
Chazzanut Online:
The latest changes to the standard
http://www.joods.nl/~chazzanut/abc/abc2-draft.html
to reflect the discussion of today:
2.1. Remarks
A '%' symbol will cause the remainder of any input line
to be ignored. It can be used to add remarks to the end
of an ABC line.
Alternatively, you can use the
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1/ Ignore comments except pseudo comments
2/ Combine lines
3/ Parse the resulting logical line
4/ Parse pseudo comments
I think the easiest solution would be to allow pseudo
comments _only_ on a line by themselves.
Then we could use the following
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, John Chambers wrote:
| I think the easiest solution would be to allow pseudo
| comments _only_ on a line by themselves.
Of course, many users (and programmers) would interpret this to
verify that [%%MIDI ...] is valid in the middle of a line.
No. The standard is
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Buddha Buck wrote:
How would you interpret:
V:1 clef=bass middle=c
1/ The bass clef is to be moved one line up,
so that the middle line of the staff is a c instead of
a d.
2/ Additionally, this indicates that the tune pitches
are notated two octaves too high, since the
% Variant I
P:A
K:C
[V:A1] C G C
[V:A2] E B E
P:B
K:Am
[V:B1] A E A
[V:B2] C G C
No - there's no need to rename the voices.
There is no need to change the voice IDs;
I was in fact wondering if it should be legal,
i.e. if the music generator should build a fresh
list of the voices at
On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Rickard Blixt wrote:
When I write abcm2ps and press Enter (I use abcm2ps),
a lot of text would roll up. How do I get it
readable, one screen at a time?
type:
abcm2ps | more
Groeten,
Irwin Oppenheim
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
~~~*
Chazzanut Online:
http://www.joods.nl/~chazzanut/abc/abc2-draft.html#Voice%20overlay
Likewise, the operator may be used in w: lyrics and
in s: symbol lines, to provide a separate line of
lyrics and symbols to each of the overlayed voices:
g4 f4 | e6 e2 \
(d8 | c6) c2
w: ha-la-| lu-yoh \
lu- |
On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Martin Tarenskeen wrote:
I have just joined this mailinglist so I could also ask: where can I find
an archive of older threads/postings ?
Go to:
http://www.joods.nl/~chazzanut/abc/abc2-draft.html
The introduction of the standard has, among other
things, a pointer to the
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's also a reasonable approach. But what do you do
with pseudo comments?
I'm not sure what you mean by pseudo comments. Could you give an example?
%%gchordfont times 14
or
%%abc-copyright (C) Copyright John Smith 2003
Groeten,
Irwin
On Tue, 5 Aug 2003, Wil Macaulay wrote:
1. continued lines cannot have a trailing comment
2. pseudocomments cannot be continued
The current text of ABC 2.0 does not allow either.
Ad. 1: Comments can not be included on lines that end
with a backslash.
Ad. 2: A '%' symbol will cause the
On Sun, 3 Aug 2003, Jeff Bigler wrote:
Much simpler, using vi as an example, would be:
man vi | cat vi.txt
Maybe you have a super-cat installed on your system,
but my cats pass all those backspace sequences through,
so the above line would be simply equivalent with:
man vi
On Mon, 4 Aug 2003, Joerg Anders wrote:
Is there a possibility to place braces inside brackes
in staff layout. I tried:
%%staves [ S1 { S2 S3 } S4 | ]
That is not possible. What would be the meaning of
such a notation?
You can of course typeset:
%%staves [S1 S2] {S3 S4} [S5 S6]
On Mon, 4 Aug 2003, John Walsh wrote:
(I presume that anything that follows it refers to spaces.)
Correct.
Thus neither of the following will work:
abc def| gab CDE| % comments\
FGA BC| ...
abc def| gab CDE|\ % comments
FGA BC| ...
Correct. %-Comments may not appear on a continued
line.
On Sun, 3 Aug 2003, Bernard Hill wrote:
Please can we have yes and no instead of numbers that have to be
looked up in a manual?
0 and 1 are universally Off and On. Check a modern radio, TV, video
recorder or other electronic device sometime.
...but the problem was that 2 was also an allowed
I hereby request your feedback on the 4th revision
of the ABC draft standard:
http://www.joods.nl/~chazzanut/abc/abc2-draft.html
1] Since the semantics of the %%staves directive now
differ quite a lot from the original, I decided to
rename it to %%score. This way, old code cannot be
confused with
On Sat, 2 Aug 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
With abcm2ps, how do I put a specific note in parenthesis?
( ) C
Irwin, this has come up before and doesn't work as
you expect - you get ( above ) rather than a
parenthesis either side of the note (with 3.3.1 that
I'm using).
This has since
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Jean-Francois Moine wrote:
I think an other information header should exist, which gives a
completly different syntax:
s:staff number \
bracket=[on | off] \
Jef,
the proposed standard already uses s: for something
different:
2.24. Symbol lines
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Bernard Hill wrote:
Shouldn't that be
%%staves Solo [(S A) | (T B)] | {RH (LH1 LH2)}
since the barline would interfere with any words sung. The only regular
place that barlines *are* drawn through is in keyboard work.
You're correct. Thank you!
Irwin
To
On Fri, 1 Aug 2003, Wil Macaulay wrote:
Given Bernard's statement, and that we are proposing
incompatibilities anyway, I would propose that you
only use a line if you _DO_ want barlines between
staves. In other words, the default is not to join
staves, but you can put a line between if you
Dear abcusers,
Below I will outline the most recent changes that I
incorporated in the ABC draft standard, based on
your input.
The complete document is available here:
http://www.joods.nl/~chazzanut/abc/abc2-draft.html
As always: constructive criticism is very welcome!
- Changed Accomp.
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Bernard Hill wrote:
Numbering sections is a very good idea indeed.
Seconded.
The sections are now all numbered.
http://www.joods.nl/~chazzanut/abc/abc2-draft.html
Groeten,
Irwin Oppenheim
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
~~~*
Chazzanut Online:
http://www.joods.nl/~chazzanut/
To
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, John Chambers wrote:
| %%propagate-accidentals 0 | 1
|
Hmmm ... As others have pointed out recently, a very common
rule (except when it's not ;-) would be:
When set to 2, accidentals also apply to all the notes of
the same pitch in all octaves up to the end of the
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Guido Gonzato wrote:
While you at it, please explain to me what is the
use of the G: field?
ooops - typo. Used by ABC database apps.
Do you know which database applications use it and
for what purposes?
Barfly does not support this form:
w: Sa-ys my au-l' wan to
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Richard Robinson wrote:
Has anybody seen any of the XMLish schemes do anything useful, yet ?
I haven't had a look round recently, ibut whenever I have it's all looks
kind of maybe one day-ish.
musicXML is a format that actually works.
Finale can import and export it, and
I have changed this section to the form that was
suggested by Laura and John.
Let me know if the naming could be further improved.
Irwin
===
8.3. Accidental directives
%%propagate-accidentals not | octave | pitch
When set to not, accidentals
On Thu, 31 Jul 2003, Richard Robinson wrote:
And, I thought Henrik was involved with this original attempt, too ?
Henrik is still involved. When he'll be back from
vacation, he will devote some time to update the BNF
specification according to the standard.
Irwin
To subscribe/unsubscribe,
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Bernard Hill wrote:
Is K:D exp _b _e ^f different from K:D _b _e ^f ?
Where does this come from, has it been mentioned before ?
As I have always understood the standard, the accidentals following it
*modify* the key sig. So
K:D _b _e ^f actuall leaves also a c^. The
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Richard Robinson wrote:
K:D _b _e ^f actuall leaves also a c^. The point of the exp is to
*override* the normal key sig of D.
[1] The given example actually produces 1 sharp and 2 flats, ie is
equivalent to D exp.
Nope. As I have explained earlier, K:D _b _e ^f
is
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Arent Storm wrote:
* irregular compound meter: two ways of display
1) 3+2+2/8 displayed as is
2) (3+2+2)/8 displayed as 7/8
I think both should be displayed as:
3 + 2 + 2
8
If you want the semantics of 2), simply type:
M:7/8 % (3+2+2)/8
*G: group; clarify (I
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Laura Conrad wrote:
%%MIDI nobarlines
indicates that there are no barlines dividing the measures, so an
accidental applies only to the note it's on, and not to all the notes
until the end of the piece. It's really necessary to be able to
specify this.
OK. I
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, John Chambers wrote:
In most cases, musicians will be following the rule that
accidentals apply in all octaves, so for them it doesn't
matter where the key-sig accidentals are drawn.
You seem to forget that ABC players also should be able to make
sense of the
Dear Phil,
%%staves {1 2 3 4}
Will typeset 4 voices on one keyboard staff.
A keyboard staff consists of two coupled staves
that are connected with a { symbol in front of them.
%%staves (1 2)(3 4)
Will print two separate staves, with two voices on each of them.
No { symbol will appear in
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Phil Taylor wrote:
%%staves [(1 2)(3 4)]
Gives a score format: two staves, coupled with a large
[ on the left side.
or should that be
%%staves ([1 2)(3 4])
No. That has no defined meaning.
%%staves {1 2 3} a keyboard staff with two voices in the right hand
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Arent Storm wrote:
And what if I want one large { with four staves ?
You could use %%staves [1 2 3 4] instead,
which will place a [ before the staves, though.
We can of course consider to make the semantics of {..}
similar to [...].
I.e: %%staves {1 2 3 4} will print 4
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, Bernard Hill wrote:
1. In the table of ABC fields and their usage you have U:user defined
still saying !trill! rather than +trill+
Fixed.
2. In the section O: origin the separator is miss-spelled.
Fixed.
3. Shouldn't +..+ be deprecated for chords?
It has been deprecated
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, Bernard Hill wrote:
5. No mention of midline
What do you mean?
Sorry, I abandoned a comment and forgot to complete
it. I am thinking of the midline field in Clefs.
I'm not sure what you mean.
[K: clef=bass] or [K: bass] is legal.
I should have said non-Multiple
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, Richard Robinson wrote:
It then goes on to state where each field will be printed. This is at
least inconsistent, and I don't think this is the right place for this
level of detail.
Note that it says:
Note that is only indicative, users may change the
formatting by
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, Bernard Hill wrote:
[K: clef=bass] or [K: bass] is legal.
Is it? I couldn't find it.
Anyway the midline field attempted to define the middle line of say the
bass clef as D or D, to avoid too many leger lines. I never liked it
anyway so glad it's gone.
It's not gone!
Dear Abcusers,
Thank you for your feedback. Based on your input (both
on and off-list) I have made the following
modifications to the standard.
-- The debated section on Key sigs reads now as
follows:
By specifying K:none, it is possible to use no key
signature at all.
The key signatures may
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, Arent Storm wrote:
For the church-modes part I agree, the explicit
accidental signature will confuse anyone trying to
play the music from paper (except for the authors
band perhaps)
Klezmer musicians all use explicit key sigs, and so do
musicologists. In fact, it are
I've now also updated the ties and slurs section of
http://www.joods.nl/~chazzanut/abc/abc2-draft.html
to give PNG examples of nested slurs.
Please have a look to see if you can agree.
Groeten,
Irwin Oppenheim
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
~~~*
Chazzanut Online:
http://www.joods.nl/~chazzanut/
To
On Tue, 29 Jul 2003, John Chambers wrote:
I. Oppenheim writes:
| I've now also updated the ties and slurs section of
| http://www.joods.nl/~chazzanut/abc/abc2-draft.html
| to give PNG examples of nested slurs.
| Please have a look to see if you can agree.
It's getting to look better
On Wed, 30 Jul 2003, Richard Robinson wrote:
What about the cases where notes in different octaves
have different accidentals ?
I personally think that the explicit key signature
scheme as it is currently defined in the standard is
already quite complex.
Making distinction between the octave
Dear abcusers,
I hereby publicly release the third draft revision of
the ABC 2.0 standard:
http://www.joods.nl/~chazzanut/abc/abc2-draft.html
--- Due to popular demand, +...+ is now the preferred
syntax for notating decorations; !...! has been
deprecated, although it is still allowed.
---
Some of you may be interested that there is currently a proposal
running for a new Usenet newsgroup in the uk.* hierarchy for
general discussion about all aspects of notation and software.
I think it's a good idea, provided that the newsgroup
will be moderated (in the sense that all spam will
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Richard Robinson wrote:
If I have a tune with decorations, and want to add a
staffbreak somewhere, I'm just not going to delete
the decorations.
Of course you won't delete the decorations!
All I am proposing is that you should be able to use
!...! for decorations and *
So the bottom line is: it would be nice if both !
and * could be used to notate a staffbreak. The
people who do not use !...! won't be bothered by it,
and the people who use decorations will have an easier
time.
We're into the territory of defining new stuff here. As I said before, I
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Phil Taylor wrote:
I don't think anyone has implemented w: in a program,
and as far as I'm concerned it can go.
I think you meant u:, not w:...
Irwin
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Arent Storm wrote:
1) where does T1 come from
T1 in V:T1 is just an identifier that will make the ABC
source code more readable.
As you know the name of the voice and other options
need to be spelled out only once, so having readable
identifiers throughout a big piece of
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Arent Storm wrote:
I'd like to catch the use the the Y: field for future extensions like
Y:someinfofield=some info field value
This way we've maintained compitiblity with existing abc files
while having the possibilty of future expansion.
Standard says already:
Many of
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003, Phil Taylor wrote:
Convert all man pages to html, and use you're
webbrowser to read them.
er, how do I do that?
I forgot to answer this part. Just do:
man topic | man2html outfile
If you dont have it yet, get man2html from:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, Phil Taylor wrote:
The classic MacOS does not use file extensions to identify files,
instead there are two four-character fields associated with files,
called the creator and file type signatures. The old version of
BarFly can only open files of type TEXT.
ResEdit can
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003, Jack Campin wrote:
I think it got lost within the discussion about having notes of
differing lengths within chords.
I think that problem is now solved with the
introduction of -style voice overlay.
Groeten,
Irwin Oppenheim
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