Hi Janina,
I believe you are still the a11y director at the LF? Can you see any reason why IA2 could not be moved to github?
Rich
Rich Schwerdtfeger
- Original message -From: Alexander Surkov Sent by:
A dummy copy/paste apparently makes a bad job. Thanks for the catch. Here
is the change [1].
I guess we could ask them to move the repo to GitHub, not sure if there are
any reasons to keep it on the LF server.
[1]
I think IA2 should be moved to github as well.
Rich Schwerdtfeger
- Original message -From: James Teh Sent by: accessibility-ia2-boun...@lists.linuxfoundation.orgTo: Alexander Surkov Cc: IAccessible2 mailing list
On 8/09/2016 9:22 PM, Alexander Surkov wrote:
Thank you, Jamie. I'm taking that screen readers may need to a context
element, when error message pops up, as a use case for a reverse
relation (if not, please correct me).
I think we'd more likely use it if the user is reviewing a form (rather
On Wed, Sep 7, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger
wrote:
> Hi Alex,
>
> Correct, aria-details requires no special role. However, the use case is
> for the digital publishing industry. They want to be able to take a piece
> of content and go to the alternative content that
Thank you, Jamie. I'm taking that screen readers may need to a context
element, when error message pops up, as a use case for a reverse relation
(if not, please correct me).
Could you also comment my guess about aria-details? If a screen reader
skips aria-details elements when navigating, then
Agreed. Happy to have a reverse relation for errormessage, since we seem
to have a use case. We don't seem to have a compelling use case for a
reverse relation for details, so let's leave it out for now.
On 8/09/2016 5:25 AM, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote:
Hi Alex,
Correct, aria-details
Hi Alex,
Correct, aria-details requires no special role. However, the use case is for the digital publishing industry. They want to be able to take a piece of content and go to the alternative content that provides detailed information which could be alternative content as we discussed
Hi,
Is that documented somewhere?
I read through the information on error and I don’t see anything about AT
skipping error messages if encountering them while reading through the virtual
buffer.
Have I misunderstood something?
Thanks,
Brett
Brett Lewis
VFO | Software Engineer
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You're right. An element referred by aria-errormessage can be an alert of
live region and thus should be announced by a screen reader, when it pops
up. In this case, it seems the screen reader may need to find a context
element, and if this is true, then the reverse relation is needed.
- Original message -
> From: James Teh <ja...@nvaccess.org>
> To: Dominic Mazzoni <dmazz...@google.com>, Richard
> Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS
> Cc: accessibility-...@lists.linux-foundation.org
> Subject: Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Reverse relationships
Hi, Brett.
Can you please elaborate your use case? My understanding is AT skips
error/details, if the user encounters them, but announce them, when the
user navigates to an element related with error/details. Why would AT need
to find a related element by error/details?
Thanks.
Alex.
On Wed,
To be clear, we would not document them in the mapping specification if they are not implemented.
When I say add them later I am referring to the mapping spec. and browsers. However, doing that has ramifications for AT vendors.
Rich Schwerdtfeger
- Original message -From: James Teh
That's fair. The only problem is that if they're documented in the
mapping spec, browsers are technically non-compliant if they don't
implement.
On 7/09/2016 2:58 PM, Dominic Mazzoni wrote:
Is there any reason we shouldn't *define* the reverse relationships
now? Browsers can choose not to
Is there any reason we shouldn't *define* the reverse relationships now?
Browsers can choose not to implement them now for performance reasons, and
AT can choose to ignore them.
On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 7:16 PM Richard Schwerdtfeger
wrote:
> Jamie,
>
>
> Well you can add
Jamie,
Well you can add reverse relationships later if it becomes an issue. The only problem with adding it later is you will also then need to test if that reverse relation ship exists and what to do with older browsers that won't have the relationship.
Rich
Rich Schwerdtfeger
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