Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines
dear rajesh sir. I think it would be nice if the laptops are allowed for writing descriptive Exams and the audio device with buttens for MCq papers can make us very confident in taking exams. Thank you On 6/27/18, Asudani, Rajesh wrote: > I support audio player with buttons for MCQ papers. > But, audio files for descriptive papers would change the very nature of exam > and valuation will also not be proper. > > > सादर / With thanks & Regards > राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani > सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM > बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU > भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India > नागपुर Nagpur > > 0712 2806846 > > President > VIBEWA > Co-Moderator > VIB-India > > A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and > laughter. > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of Siva Suresh > Sent: 27 June 2018 09:52 > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines > > good suggestion! if this can come visually impaired people can be more > independent in writing Exams and that can avoid mal practices. > > On 6/27/18, bhawani shankar verma wrote: >> in my opinion, an audio player should be developed like an EVM >> machine. on which a blind candidate can listen the question and can >> press the appropriate button for the answer. filling of roll numbers >> etc can also be digitised by that way. for descriptive papers, >> submition of audio file should be allowed. >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Ashish Jha >> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 10:43 PM >> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >> concerning the disabled. >> Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines >> >> Hi, >> >> I believe that the intension to allow one grade junier candidate as >> scribe is to prevent malpractises and curb the use of professional >> scribes. >> Let us assume a situation. A VI candidate is appearing for Bank PO >> examination or CAT which has graduation as eligibility. Ideally, as >> per proposed guidelines, the scribe should be less than a graduate. >> So, my understanding is that the scribe can be under graduate who is >> studying in first or second year of the graduation. Now, let say that >> the scribe is an IITian studying in 1st or 2nd year or in similar >> premier institutions, considering him/her to be good enough in >> mathematical/reasoning skills. >> So, are we able to prevent the mal practise here with reducing the >> eligibility criteria of the scribe? This is my dout please. >> >> I think a deep thoughts should be given before concluding, so that it >> should not become a real challenge for a deserving candidate in >> appearing examination and giving their best. There are instances, >> specially in remote and small urban areas where deserving candidate >> struggle with getting scribe and adding further limitations may turn >> things more complicated for them. This can further be thought for the >> North Eastern areas where again literacy is not very significant and >> they need to rely on their limited resources. >> Presently, I believe, there are only few institutions like UPSC where >> a candidate can opt for a scribe of the institution itself, if they >> find difficult to manage their own scribe. >> >> I believe that the vigillant system shall be strengthened at very >> first level by the examiner. I can recall, an Provisional IPS was >> caught last year while writing UPSC CS Mains examination while using >> his digital device. So, similar vigilant system shall be there while >> VI writing his/her examination. >> >> Yes, I am in line if laptop is allowed as an alternative solution, but >> the care should be taken about the accessibility of the design of the >> question paper. I think this can go in long run. >> >> >> >> On 6/26/18, Yogesh Chhabra wrote: >>> respected members and kanchan mam, >>> after reading the proposed guidelines I have some queries and >>> situations which I am unable to see the solutions, 1, according to >>> the proposed guidelines, the scribe should be one class below the >>> candidates qualification then suppose if I am a language student like >>> German and I am appearing for my first year exam. At this time who >>> will be my scribe? whom should I take as a scribe for my first year >>> examination? I am asking this because no one can read german or any >>> other language and according to this situation I need to take one >>> class lower scribe, that means in my case the 12th standard or below >>> 12th class student. similarly, there are many courses in JNU and >>> other universities like French, Spanish, ETC. who will be the scribe >>> for such students in their first year course? >>> 2. If I am a student of 11th standard and I have taken maths as one >>> of my subject then I have to take 10th standard student as my scribe, >>> but at the time of my examinations, the 10th standard students are >>> also
Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines
I support audio player with buttons for MCQ papers. But, audio files for descriptive papers would change the very nature of exam and valuation will also not be proper. सादर / With thanks & Regards राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India नागपुर Nagpur 0712 2806846 President VIBEWA Co-Moderator VIB-India A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and laughter. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Siva Suresh Sent: 27 June 2018 09:52 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines good suggestion! if this can come visually impaired people can be more independent in writing Exams and that can avoid mal practices. On 6/27/18, bhawani shankar verma wrote: > in my opinion, an audio player should be developed like an EVM > machine. on which a blind candidate can listen the question and can > press the appropriate button for the answer. filling of roll numbers > etc can also be digitised by that way. for descriptive papers, > submition of audio file should be allowed. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Ashish Jha > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 10:43 PM > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues > concerning the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines > > Hi, > > I believe that the intension to allow one grade junier candidate as > scribe is to prevent malpractises and curb the use of professional > scribes. > Let us assume a situation. A VI candidate is appearing for Bank PO > examination or CAT which has graduation as eligibility. Ideally, as > per proposed guidelines, the scribe should be less than a graduate. > So, my understanding is that the scribe can be under graduate who is > studying in first or second year of the graduation. Now, let say that > the scribe is an IITian studying in 1st or 2nd year or in similar > premier institutions, considering him/her to be good enough in > mathematical/reasoning skills. > So, are we able to prevent the mal practise here with reducing the > eligibility criteria of the scribe? This is my dout please. > > I think a deep thoughts should be given before concluding, so that it > should not become a real challenge for a deserving candidate in > appearing examination and giving their best. There are instances, > specially in remote and small urban areas where deserving candidate > struggle with getting scribe and adding further limitations may turn > things more complicated for them. This can further be thought for the > North Eastern areas where again literacy is not very significant and > they need to rely on their limited resources. > Presently, I believe, there are only few institutions like UPSC where > a candidate can opt for a scribe of the institution itself, if they > find difficult to manage their own scribe. > > I believe that the vigillant system shall be strengthened at very > first level by the examiner. I can recall, an Provisional IPS was > caught last year while writing UPSC CS Mains examination while using > his digital device. So, similar vigilant system shall be there while > VI writing his/her examination. > > Yes, I am in line if laptop is allowed as an alternative solution, but > the care should be taken about the accessibility of the design of the > question paper. I think this can go in long run. > > > > On 6/26/18, Yogesh Chhabra wrote: >> respected members and kanchan mam, >> after reading the proposed guidelines I have some queries and >> situations which I am unable to see the solutions, 1, according to >> the proposed guidelines, the scribe should be one class below the >> candidates qualification then suppose if I am a language student like >> German and I am appearing for my first year exam. At this time who >> will be my scribe? whom should I take as a scribe for my first year >> examination? I am asking this because no one can read german or any >> other language and according to this situation I need to take one >> class lower scribe, that means in my case the 12th standard or below >> 12th class student. similarly, there are many courses in JNU and >> other universities like French, Spanish, ETC. who will be the scribe >> for such students in their first year course? >> 2. If I am a student of 11th standard and I have taken maths as one >> of my subject then I have to take 10th standard student as my scribe, >> but at the time of my examinations, the 10th standard students are >> also having their examination so I have no choice and I have to take >> 9th standard student to write my math examination. here the situation >> is that the 11th standard math and 9th standard's math is totally >> different and most of the things will be new for the scribe and he >> will find it difficult to read it for me. so in this situation, who >> will be my scribe? >>
Re: [AI] Blind concession on Tatkal train tickets?
Hi There are no concessions to anybody on tatkal tickets. Harish. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Rishi Kewalramani Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 8:33 AM To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: [AI] Blind concession on Tatkal train tickets? Hi Friends, Do the V I get concession on Tatkal train tickets?Thanks, Rishi Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Caution: The Reserve Bank of India never sends mails, SMSs or makes calls asking for personal information such as your bank account details, passwords, etc. It never keeps or offers funds to anyone. Please do not respond in any manner to such offers, however official or attractive they may look. Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, use, review, distribution, printing or copying of the information contained in this e-mail message and/or attachments to it are strictly prohibited. If you have received this email by error, please notify us by return e-mail or telephone and immediately and permanently delete the message and any attachments. The recipient should check this email and any attachments for the presence of viruses. The Reserve Bank of India accepts no liability for any damage caused by any virus transmitted by this email. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines
good suggestion! if this can come visually impaired people can be more independent in writing Exams and that can avoid mal practices. On 6/27/18, bhawani shankar verma wrote: > in my opinion, an audio player should be developed like an EVM machine. on > which a blind candidate can listen the question and can press the > appropriate button for the answer. filling of roll numbers etc can also be > digitised by that way. for descriptive papers, submition of audio file > should be allowed. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Ashish Jha > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 10:43 PM > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines > > Hi, > > I believe that the intension to allow one grade junier candidate as > scribe is to prevent malpractises and curb the use of professional > scribes. > Let us assume a situation. A VI candidate is appearing for Bank PO > examination or CAT which has graduation as eligibility. Ideally, as > per proposed guidelines, the scribe should be less than a graduate. > So, my understanding is that the scribe can be under graduate who is > studying in first or second year of the graduation. Now, let say that > the scribe is an IITian studying in 1st or 2nd year or in similar > premier institutions, considering him/her to be good enough in > mathematical/reasoning skills. > So, are we able to prevent the mal practise here with reducing the > eligibility criteria of the scribe? This is my dout please. > > I think a deep thoughts should be given before concluding, so that it > should not become a real challenge for a deserving candidate in > appearing examination and giving their best. There are instances, > specially in remote and small urban areas where deserving candidate > struggle with getting scribe and adding further limitations may turn > things more complicated for them. This can further be thought for the > North Eastern areas where again literacy is not very significant and > they need to rely on their limited resources. > Presently, I believe, there are only few institutions like UPSC where > a candidate can opt for a scribe of the institution itself, if they > find difficult to manage their own scribe. > > I believe that the vigillant system shall be strengthened at very > first level by the examiner. I can recall, an Provisional IPS was > caught last year while writing UPSC CS Mains examination while using > his digital device. So, similar vigilant system shall be there while > VI writing his/her examination. > > Yes, I am in line if laptop is allowed as an alternative solution, but > the care should be taken about the accessibility of the design of the > question paper. I think this can go in long run. > > > > On 6/26/18, Yogesh Chhabra wrote: >> respected members and kanchan mam, >> after reading the proposed guidelines I have some queries and >> situations which I am unable to see the solutions, >> 1, according to the proposed guidelines, the scribe should be one >> class below the candidates qualification then suppose if I am a >> language student like German and I am appearing for my first year >> exam. At this time who will be my scribe? whom should I take as a >> scribe for my first year examination? I am asking this because no one >> can read german or any other language and according to this situation >> I need to take one class lower scribe, that means in my case the 12th >> standard or below 12th class student. similarly, there are many >> courses in JNU and other universities like French, Spanish, ETC. who >> will be the scribe for such students in their first year course? >> 2. If I am a student of 11th standard and I have taken maths as one of >> my subject then I have to take 10th standard student as my scribe, but >> at the time of my examinations, the 10th standard students are also >> having their examination so I have no choice and I have to take 9th >> standard student to write my math examination. here the situation is >> that the 11th standard math and 9th standard's math is totally >> different and most of the things will be new for the scribe and he >> will find it difficult to read it for me. so in this situation, who >> will be my scribe? >> 3. suppose me and my brother are appearing for the railway examination >> and we both are visually impaired. my qualification is post graduate >> and my brother's qualification is 12th standard and both are eligible >> for this examination. according to the proposed scribe guidelines, I >> can take the scribe who is pursuing post graduation and my brother can >> take the 11th standard scribe only. >> This situation will occur in the SSC 12th standard higher secondary >> level examination also. >> >> so friends, what are the solutions for these situations? >> >> On 6/26/18, Siva Suresh wrote: >>> waw! amazing discussion. it was very helpful and people will be >>> greatly benifited if we have a strong guidelines for getting
Re: [AI] Blind concession on Tatkal train tickets?
Hi rishi. I am shivasuresh from Hyderabad. as far as I know there is no chance of V I getting concession on Tatkal train tickets. please note that this is my understanding from my experience in my jurney in trains. hope this helps. Thank you. Shivasuresh On 6/27/18, Rishi Kewalramani wrote: > Hi Friends, > Do the V I get concession on Tatkal train tickets?Thanks, Rishi > > > > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > -- thank you and warm regards. shivasuresh. reach me through the following means mobile no. 9550437181. e- mail I D sivasureshka...@gmail.com skype I D sivasuresh.katta hyderabad Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
[AI] Blind concession on Tatkal train tickets?
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Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines
in my opinion, an audio player should be developed like an EVM machine. on which a blind candidate can listen the question and can press the appropriate button for the answer. filling of roll numbers etc can also be digitised by that way. for descriptive papers, submition of audio file should be allowed. -Original Message- From: Ashish Jha Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 10:43 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines Hi, I believe that the intension to allow one grade junier candidate as scribe is to prevent malpractises and curb the use of professional scribes. Let us assume a situation. A VI candidate is appearing for Bank PO examination or CAT which has graduation as eligibility. Ideally, as per proposed guidelines, the scribe should be less than a graduate. So, my understanding is that the scribe can be under graduate who is studying in first or second year of the graduation. Now, let say that the scribe is an IITian studying in 1st or 2nd year or in similar premier institutions, considering him/her to be good enough in mathematical/reasoning skills. So, are we able to prevent the mal practise here with reducing the eligibility criteria of the scribe? This is my dout please. I think a deep thoughts should be given before concluding, so that it should not become a real challenge for a deserving candidate in appearing examination and giving their best. There are instances, specially in remote and small urban areas where deserving candidate struggle with getting scribe and adding further limitations may turn things more complicated for them. This can further be thought for the North Eastern areas where again literacy is not very significant and they need to rely on their limited resources. Presently, I believe, there are only few institutions like UPSC where a candidate can opt for a scribe of the institution itself, if they find difficult to manage their own scribe. I believe that the vigillant system shall be strengthened at very first level by the examiner. I can recall, an Provisional IPS was caught last year while writing UPSC CS Mains examination while using his digital device. So, similar vigilant system shall be there while VI writing his/her examination. Yes, I am in line if laptop is allowed as an alternative solution, but the care should be taken about the accessibility of the design of the question paper. I think this can go in long run. On 6/26/18, Yogesh Chhabra wrote: respected members and kanchan mam, after reading the proposed guidelines I have some queries and situations which I am unable to see the solutions, 1, according to the proposed guidelines, the scribe should be one class below the candidates qualification then suppose if I am a language student like German and I am appearing for my first year exam. At this time who will be my scribe? whom should I take as a scribe for my first year examination? I am asking this because no one can read german or any other language and according to this situation I need to take one class lower scribe, that means in my case the 12th standard or below 12th class student. similarly, there are many courses in JNU and other universities like French, Spanish, ETC. who will be the scribe for such students in their first year course? 2. If I am a student of 11th standard and I have taken maths as one of my subject then I have to take 10th standard student as my scribe, but at the time of my examinations, the 10th standard students are also having their examination so I have no choice and I have to take 9th standard student to write my math examination. here the situation is that the 11th standard math and 9th standard's math is totally different and most of the things will be new for the scribe and he will find it difficult to read it for me. so in this situation, who will be my scribe? 3. suppose me and my brother are appearing for the railway examination and we both are visually impaired. my qualification is post graduate and my brother's qualification is 12th standard and both are eligible for this examination. according to the proposed scribe guidelines, I can take the scribe who is pursuing post graduation and my brother can take the 11th standard scribe only. This situation will occur in the SSC 12th standard higher secondary level examination also. so friends, what are the solutions for these situations? On 6/26/18, Siva Suresh wrote: waw! amazing discussion. it was very helpful and people will be greatly benifited if we have a strong guidelines for getting scribes. at the same time we should support the people who are talking on our behalf. I thank Kanchan for your great effort to support every visually impaired friends across india. it was a very helpful discussion for every one. Thank you. Shivasuresh On 6/26/18, Kanchan Pamnani wrote: Shweta please don’t say you cant get a scribe because the Authorities are saying that
Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines
Hi all, How does the blind candidate teach the scribe how to draw a table to make an account or how a math symbol looks? What about the alignment needed to write equations in organic chemistry? We need to look at the problem functionally before we get to qualifications. As of now, the discussion appears to be considering only the fraud perspective. In addition, what happens if the candidate cannot understand what the scribe is speaking? I have experienced this several years ago. The scribe's pronunciation was poor and I did not have the time to request him to spell each word. I doubt meeting the scribe 2-days before will help because the organizers may need time to get another scribe. By the way, what happens if the organizer supplied scribe falls ill on exam day? I have had this happen but at that time, I was using my own scribe so was able to provide a backup. Yes, a candidate should not have to deal with this but until we get 100% computerization, I guess we have to use scribes. Will organizers have a pull of backup scribes? Pranav Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] (AI) accessible video editors for windows and android
hello friends can you tell me how to use these softwares? Regards On 6/26/18, Abhisar Waghmare wrote: > I see that the format factory is a media converter. > Is there a app which can do pure video edits??? > > Best Regards- > ABHISAR WAGHMARE > > > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > -- Umer Yaqoob Lecturer Department of History and Pakistan Studies Government College University Faisalabad Pakistan Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] (AI) accessible video editors for windows and android
There are many of the WMM on the net. Please can you share the direct link or a drive link for it. I ll try both WMM and FF video editors Best Regards- Abhisar Waghmare Undergraduate student Computer engineering National Institute of technology,Surat +917020963005 http://linkedin.com/in/abhisar-waghmare-84b48b152 > On 26-Jun-2018, at 20:50, PRAMIT wrote: > > Windows Movie Maker is pretty easy and works well with NVDA - thus being > highly accessible > > Pramit >> On 6/26/2018 5:41 PM, Abhisar Waghmare wrote: >> I see that the format factory is a media converter. >> Is there a app which can do pure video edits??? >> >> Best Regards- >> ABHISAR WAGHMARE >> >> >> >> >> Search for old postings at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >> >> To unsubscribe send a message to >> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >> with the subject unsubscribe. >> >> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please >> visit the list home page at >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >> >> >> Disclaimer: >> 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the >> person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; >> >> 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails >> sent through this mailing list.. >> > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines
Hi, I believe that the intension to allow one grade junier candidate as scribe is to prevent malpractises and curb the use of professional scribes. Let us assume a situation. A VI candidate is appearing for Bank PO examination or CAT which has graduation as eligibility. Ideally, as per proposed guidelines, the scribe should be less than a graduate. So, my understanding is that the scribe can be under graduate who is studying in first or second year of the graduation. Now, let say that the scribe is an IITian studying in 1st or 2nd year or in similar premier institutions, considering him/her to be good enough in mathematical/reasoning skills. So, are we able to prevent the mal practise here with reducing the eligibility criteria of the scribe? This is my dout please. I think a deep thoughts should be given before concluding, so that it should not become a real challenge for a deserving candidate in appearing examination and giving their best. There are instances, specially in remote and small urban areas where deserving candidate struggle with getting scribe and adding further limitations may turn things more complicated for them. This can further be thought for the North Eastern areas where again literacy is not very significant and they need to rely on their limited resources. Presently, I believe, there are only few institutions like UPSC where a candidate can opt for a scribe of the institution itself, if they find difficult to manage their own scribe. I believe that the vigillant system shall be strengthened at very first level by the examiner. I can recall, an Provisional IPS was caught last year while writing UPSC CS Mains examination while using his digital device. So, similar vigilant system shall be there while VI writing his/her examination. Yes, I am in line if laptop is allowed as an alternative solution, but the care should be taken about the accessibility of the design of the question paper. I think this can go in long run. On 6/26/18, Yogesh Chhabra wrote: > respected members and kanchan mam, > after reading the proposed guidelines I have some queries and > situations which I am unable to see the solutions, > 1, according to the proposed guidelines, the scribe should be one > class below the candidates qualification then suppose if I am a > language student like German and I am appearing for my first year > exam. At this time who will be my scribe? whom should I take as a > scribe for my first year examination? I am asking this because no one > can read german or any other language and according to this situation > I need to take one class lower scribe, that means in my case the 12th > standard or below 12th class student. similarly, there are many > courses in JNU and other universities like French, Spanish, ETC. who > will be the scribe for such students in their first year course? > 2. If I am a student of 11th standard and I have taken maths as one of > my subject then I have to take 10th standard student as my scribe, but > at the time of my examinations, the 10th standard students are also > having their examination so I have no choice and I have to take 9th > standard student to write my math examination. here the situation is > that the 11th standard math and 9th standard's math is totally > different and most of the things will be new for the scribe and he > will find it difficult to read it for me. so in this situation, who > will be my scribe? > 3. suppose me and my brother are appearing for the railway examination > and we both are visually impaired. my qualification is post graduate > and my brother's qualification is 12th standard and both are eligible > for this examination. according to the proposed scribe guidelines, I > can take the scribe who is pursuing post graduation and my brother can > take the 11th standard scribe only. > This situation will occur in the SSC 12th standard higher secondary > level examination also. > > so friends, what are the solutions for these situations? > > On 6/26/18, Siva Suresh wrote: >> waw! amazing discussion. it was very helpful and people will be >> greatly benifited if we have a strong guidelines for getting scribes. >> at the same time we should support the people who are talking on our >> behalf. I thank Kanchan for your great effort to support every >> visually impaired friends across india. it was a very helpful >> discussion for every one. >> >> Thank you. Shivasuresh >> >> >> On 6/26/18, Kanchan Pamnani wrote: >>> Shweta please don’t say you cant get a scribe because the Authorities are >>> saying that they will provide and we don’t have to worry. >>> All my effort will go to nought. >>> K >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >>> Behalf >>> Of Shweta Mishra >>> Sent: 26 June 2018 16:30 >>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>> concerning >>> the disabled. >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines >>> >>> but bhawani sir,
Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines
On 6/26/18, Kanchan Pamnani wrote: > Very interesting analysis. Please explain in which exam this kind of > situation will occur. > Also is it not fair to allow a Post graduate only a 12th Standard scribe? > Is it not likely that the post graduate will know more than the scribe in > this case. > Is the scribe's qualification important in comparison to that of the > candidate? > This is only a debate and I do want to hear peoples views. > Kanchan > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of Shweta Mishra > Sent: 26 June 2018 13:51 > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines > > hi friends! > it means, scribe criteria will be different for for candidates with > different qualification. > for example, a post graduate and a twelfth passed candidate is appearing for > the same competitive exam, then what will be scribe criteria for both > candidates? > if a post graduate candidate will bring graduate scribe, then won't it be > injustice to the twelfth passed candidate? because twelfth passed candidate > will be allowed to bring maximum eleventh passed scribe. > > On 6/26/18, Lyngdoh wrote: >> Can someone help me out with scribe for SBI PO 2018 exams... I mean >> what qualification shall I ask for from my to be scribe then? In the >> past I have always looked for graduates. >> >> On 6/26/18, Asudani, Rajesh wrote: >>> Congrats! >>> Retention of capacity to choose own scribe, though less in >>> qualification than oneself, along with freedom to use devices, and >>> meet the scribe two days in advance is a superb victory. >>> >>> At least folks now at least, stop using professional scribes. >>> Accessible exams, if online or computerized, is the ultimate dream. >>> >>> >>> सादर / With thanks & Regards >>> राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani >>> सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM >>> बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU >>> भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India नागपुर Nagpur >>> >>> 0712 2806846 >>> >>> President >>> VIBEWA >>> Co-Moderator >>> VIB-India >>> >>> A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and >>> laughter. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >>> Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani >>> Sent: 25 June 2018 16:18 >>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>> concerning the disabled.' >>> Subject: [AI] Scribe guidelines >>> >>> Sorry folks for not reporting for 2 days. A lot of you have already >>> heard what happened but let me explain a few issues >>> >>> 1. You all know that in 2013 we got new guidelines for the use of >>> scribes. This was far and beyond what had been given by Courts and >>> definitely more than what we had demanded at different times. >>> >>> 2. So far about one year there was not too much of a problem >>> because >>> no one really implemented the guidelines. >>> >>> 3. Then the penny dropped-U PS C and others started saying that >>> these >>> guidelines were unfair. >>> >>> 4. Some of our own VI candidates decided that these guidelines gave >>> them the right to have overqualified or should I say coached writers. >>> >>> 5. Our other VI who suffered because of the special writers >>> complained >>> to U P S C and to the Courts-Bombay and Eranakulam I am told. >>> >>> 6. Then the Government set up our committee. We met about 3 times >>> but >>> could not agree so the MSJE set up a sub-committee. >>> >>> 7. This subcommittee gave a report which we had to discuss at this >>> meeting on 20th June. >>> >>> 8. I had shared the sub-committee's report and the comments of U PS >>> C >>> and SSC. >>> >>> 9. Our meeting started an hour and half late because the Secretary >>> had >>> gone to meet the Minister. >>> >>> 10. Before she came in the other committee members gave theiropinion on >>> the subcommittees report. Only Mr. Rungta and I were left to give our >>> comments when the Secretary arrived and we started the formal meeting. >>> >>> 11. It was quite a hot debate. >>> >>> 12. The problem with govt agencies is that they don't send the same >>> person >>> to the followup meetings. This includes U P S C and our own NIVH. >>> This hampers progressive discussion and we cannot pin the representative >>> down. >>> >>> 13. There was no problem with compensatory time etc. The >>> recommendations >>> of the Sub-committee were accepted. >>> >>> 14. So what have we won or should I say retained-the first right of the >>> candidate to choose his scribe. If not available then the Examining >>> body can provide not less than a matriculate. >>> >>> 15. Further you can meet your scribe 2 days in advance. >>> >>> 16. Some other devices etc for other disabilities that can be used.Our >>> committee added to Sub committee recommendations. This added to the >>> original guidelines. >>> >>> 17. The only
Re: [AI] (AI) accessible video editors for windows and android
On 6/21/18, Abhisar Waghmare wrote: > Can you guys pls suggest some accessible video editors. > > Best Regards- > Abhisar > > > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > Hai, Till today,I had been using format factory only for editing a video that had been downloaded from youtube editing in the sense ,removing unwanted scenes from the downloaded video -- "ALL IS WELL" Thanks & Regards, P.Iravanan 9442242332 Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] (AI) accessible video editors for windows and android
Windows Movie Maker is pretty easy and works well with NVDA - thus being highly accessible Pramit On 6/26/2018 5:41 PM, Abhisar Waghmare wrote: I see that the format factory is a media converter. Is there a app which can do pure video edits??? Best Regards- ABHISAR WAGHMARE Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] (AI) accessible video editors for windows and android
Windows Movie Maker is pretty easy and works well with NVDA - thus being highly accessible Pramit On 6/26/2018 5:41 PM, Abhisar Waghmare wrote: I see that the format factory is a media converter. Is there a app which can do pure video edits??? Best Regards- ABHISAR WAGHMARE Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines
respected members and kanchan mam, after reading the proposed guidelines I have some queries and situations which I am unable to see the solutions, 1, according to the proposed guidelines, the scribe should be one class below the candidates qualification then suppose if I am a language student like German and I am appearing for my first year exam. At this time who will be my scribe? whom should I take as a scribe for my first year examination? I am asking this because no one can read german or any other language and according to this situation I need to take one class lower scribe, that means in my case the 12th standard or below 12th class student. similarly, there are many courses in JNU and other universities like French, Spanish, ETC. who will be the scribe for such students in their first year course? 2. If I am a student of 11th standard and I have taken maths as one of my subject then I have to take 10th standard student as my scribe, but at the time of my examinations, the 10th standard students are also having their examination so I have no choice and I have to take 9th standard student to write my math examination. here the situation is that the 11th standard math and 9th standard's math is totally different and most of the things will be new for the scribe and he will find it difficult to read it for me. so in this situation, who will be my scribe? 3. suppose me and my brother are appearing for the railway examination and we both are visually impaired. my qualification is post graduate and my brother's qualification is 12th standard and both are eligible for this examination. according to the proposed scribe guidelines, I can take the scribe who is pursuing post graduation and my brother can take the 11th standard scribe only. This situation will occur in the SSC 12th standard higher secondary level examination also. so friends, what are the solutions for these situations? On 6/26/18, Siva Suresh wrote: > waw! amazing discussion. it was very helpful and people will be > greatly benifited if we have a strong guidelines for getting scribes. > at the same time we should support the people who are talking on our > behalf. I thank Kanchan for your great effort to support every > visually impaired friends across india. it was a very helpful > discussion for every one. > > Thank you. Shivasuresh > > > On 6/26/18, Kanchan Pamnani wrote: >> Shweta please don’t say you cant get a scribe because the Authorities are >> saying that they will provide and we don’t have to worry. >> All my effort will go to nought. >> K >> >> -Original Message- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >> Behalf >> Of Shweta Mishra >> Sent: 26 June 2018 16:30 >> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning >> the disabled. >> Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines >> >> but bhawani sir, it'll be very difficult for many candidates to get a good >> studying scribe,because these days, students are very busy in their own >> assignments. then how will they be able to give their precious time to >> some >> one? >> >> On 6/26/18, bhawani shankar verma wrote: >>> the qualification of the scribe should be one standard less what the >>> post requires not the qualification of candidate. if a clerk exam >>> requires minimum 12th pass then the scribe should be at 11th standard. >>> no matter the education of candidate whether is PHD or 12th. this >>> means a PHD qualified candidate can bring 11th pass person for scribe. >>> only the regular students or studying candidates should be allowed as >>> scribe. >>> >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: Shweta Mishra >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 3:34 PM >>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>> concerning the disabled. >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines >>> >>> right Kanchan mam. >>> but according to me, if a PHD candidate is allow to bring a graduate >>> scribe, then the twelfth passed candidate should also be allowed to >>> bring graduate scribe. >>> >>> On 6/26/18, Kanchan Pamnani wrote: No Harish. Shweta was more right than you. So lets go with the clerk example. There are 2 candidates-one has a PHD and one is a12th pass. The12th pass can get a scribe who is not a 12th pass. The PHD can get a scribe who is not a PhD but definitely more than a 12 pass. Sounds unfair but actually it might solve this problem of professional writers. Kanchan -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kotian, H P Sent: 26 June 2018 14:44 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines Hi If I understand the scenario correct for example the post is for a clerk for which the minimum qualification is HSC, there are 2 candidates one a post graduate and
Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines
Just would like to point out that the caliber of a Ph.D is definitely higher than a 12th passed. Insisting on the Ph.D to use a 11th passed scribe might be a disservice to him. A point to ponder! -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kotian, H P Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 2:44 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines Hi If I understand the scenario correct for example the post is for a clerk for which the minimum qualification is HSC, there are 2 candidates one a post graduate and another a HSC. The qualification to consider for the job is HSC and not the qualification of the candidate. Therefore the qualification for a scribe should not be HSC passed in this case. I am aware the minimum qualification for clerk is no more HSC. Mentioned it for illustration purpose. Harish. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Shweta Mishra Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 1:51 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines hi friends! it means, scribe criteria will be different for for candidates with different qualification. for example, a post graduate and a twelfth passed candidate is appearing for the same competitive exam, then what will be scribe criteria for both candidates? if a post graduate candidate will bring graduate scribe, then won't it be injustice to the twelfth passed candidate? because twelfth passed candidate will be allowed to bring maximum eleventh passed scribe. On 6/26/18, Lyngdoh wrote: > Can someone help me out with scribe for SBI PO 2018 exams... I mean > what qualification shall I ask for from my to be scribe then? In the > past I have always looked for graduates. > > On 6/26/18, Asudani, Rajesh wrote: >> Congrats! >> Retention of capacity to choose own scribe, though less in >> qualification than oneself, along with freedom to use devices, and >> meet the scribe two days in advance is a superb victory. >> >> At least folks now at least, stop using professional scribes. >> Accessible exams, if online or computerized, is the ultimate dream. >> >> >> सादर / With thanks & Regards >> राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani >> सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM >> बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU >> भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India नागपुर Nagpur >> >> 0712 2806846 >> >> President >> VIBEWA >> Co-Moderator >> VIB-India >> >> A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and >> laughter. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >> Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani >> Sent: 25 June 2018 16:18 >> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >> concerning the disabled.' >> Subject: [AI] Scribe guidelines >> >> Sorry folks for not reporting for 2 days. A lot of you have already >> heard what happened but let me explain a few issues >> >> 1. You all know that in 2013 we got new guidelines for the use of >> scribes. This was far and beyond what had been given by Courts and >> definitely more than what we had demanded at different times. >> >> 2. So far about one year there was not too much of a problem because >> no one really implemented the guidelines. >> >> 3. Then the penny dropped-U PS C and others started saying that >> these >> guidelines were unfair. >> >> 4. Some of our own VI candidates decided that these guidelines gave >> them the right to have overqualified or should I say coached writers. >> >> 5. Our other VI who suffered because of the special writers >> complained >> to U P S C and to the Courts-Bombay and Eranakulam I am told. >> >> 6. Then the Government set up our committee. We met about 3 times >> but >> could not agree so the MSJE set up a sub-committee. >> >> 7. This subcommittee gave a report which we had to discuss at this >> meeting on 20th June. >> >> 8. I had shared the sub-committee's report and the comments of U PS >> C >> and SSC. >> >> 9. Our meeting started an hour and half late because the Secretary >> had >> gone to meet the Minister. >> >> 10. Before she came in the other committee members gave theiropinion on >> the subcommittees report. Only Mr. Rungta and I were left to give our >> comments when the Secretary arrived and we started the formal meeting. >> >> 11. It was quite a hot debate. >> >> 12. The problem with govt agencies is that they don't send the same >> person >> to the followup meetings. This includes U P S C and our own NIVH. >> This hampers progressive discussion and we cannot pin the representative >> down. >> >> 13. There was no problem with compensatory time etc. The recommendations >> of the Sub-committee were accepted. >> >> 14. So what have we won or should I say retained-the first right
Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines
waw! amazing discussion. it was very helpful and people will be greatly benifited if we have a strong guidelines for getting scribes. at the same time we should support the people who are talking on our behalf. I thank Kanchan for your great effort to support every visually impaired friends across india. it was a very helpful discussion for every one. Thank you. Shivasuresh On 6/26/18, Kanchan Pamnani wrote: > Shweta please don’t say you cant get a scribe because the Authorities are > saying that they will provide and we don’t have to worry. > All my effort will go to nought. > K > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of Shweta Mishra > Sent: 26 June 2018 16:30 > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines > > but bhawani sir, it'll be very difficult for many candidates to get a good > studying scribe,because these days, students are very busy in their own > assignments. then how will they be able to give their precious time to some > one? > > On 6/26/18, bhawani shankar verma wrote: >> the qualification of the scribe should be one standard less what the >> post requires not the qualification of candidate. if a clerk exam >> requires minimum 12th pass then the scribe should be at 11th standard. >> no matter the education of candidate whether is PHD or 12th. this >> means a PHD qualified candidate can bring 11th pass person for scribe. >> only the regular students or studying candidates should be allowed as >> scribe. >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Shweta Mishra >> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 3:34 PM >> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >> concerning the disabled. >> Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines >> >> right Kanchan mam. >> but according to me, if a PHD candidate is allow to bring a graduate >> scribe, then the twelfth passed candidate should also be allowed to >> bring graduate scribe. >> >> On 6/26/18, Kanchan Pamnani wrote: >>> No Harish. Shweta was more right than you. >>> So lets go with the clerk example. >>> >>> There are 2 candidates-one has a PHD and one is a12th pass. >>> The12th pass can get a scribe who is not a 12th pass. The PHD can get >>> a scribe who is not a PhD but definitely more than a 12 pass. Sounds >>> unfair but actually it might solve this problem of professional writers. >>> Kanchan >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >>> Behalf Of Kotian, H P >>> Sent: 26 June 2018 14:44 >>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>> concerning the disabled. >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines >>> >>> Hi >>> If I understand the scenario correct for example the post is for a >>> clerk for which the minimum qualification is HSC, there are 2 >>> candidates one a post graduate and another a HSC. The qualification >>> to consider for the job is HSC and not the qualification of the >>> candidate. >>> Therefore the qualification for a scribe should not be HSC passed in >>> this case. >>> >>> I am aware the minimum qualification for clerk is no more HSC. >>> Mentioned it for illustration purpose. >>> >>> Harish. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >>> Behalf Of Shweta Mishra >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 1:51 PM >>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>> concerning the disabled. >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines >>> >>> hi friends! >>> it means, scribe criteria will be different for for candidates with >>> different qualification. >>> for example, a post graduate and a twelfth passed candidate is >>> appearing for the same competitive exam, then what will be scribe >>> criteria for both candidates? >>> if a post graduate candidate will bring graduate scribe, then won't >>> it be injustice to the twelfth passed candidate? because twelfth >>> passed candidate will be allowed to bring maximum eleventh passed >>> scribe. >>> >>> On 6/26/18, Lyngdoh wrote: Can someone help me out with scribe for SBI PO 2018 exams... I mean what qualification shall I ask for from my to be scribe then? In the past I have always looked for graduates. On 6/26/18, Asudani, Rajesh wrote: > Congrats! > Retention of capacity to choose own scribe, though less in > qualification than oneself, along with freedom to use devices, and > meet the scribe two days in advance is a superb victory. > > At least folks now at least, stop using professional scribes. > Accessible exams, if online or computerized, is the ultimate dream. > > > सादर / With thanks & Regards > राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani > सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM > बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU > भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India नागपुर Nagpur > > 0712 2806846 > >
[AI] Tech Makes Life Easier for Disabled Travelers, Until They Board.
Tech Makes Life Easier for Disabled Travelers, Until They Board. By JOSHUA BROCKMAN. Technology is fast changing how people with disabilities get to and then navigate airports and train and bus stations. But technology can go only so far: Its advantages usually stop at the door of the plane, train or bus. Consider the experience of Michael May, who is blind and typically flies at least once a week. Mr. May, the executive director of Envision's BVI Workforce Innovation Center, which provides employment training for the blind and visually impaired in Wichita, Kan., says he uses airline apps at home to secure his boarding pass, takes Uber to the airport and gets dropped off as close as possible to the Transportation Security Administration's PreCheck. (He's also enrolled in the Clear program to speed his way through airport security.) But then he hits what he calls a void -- he has to ask someone how to get to the security line. And in frenzied airports, he doesn't always get a response. 'I'm looking forward to having indoor navigation to the point where I can at least get to PreCheck,' he said. Mr. May has a cane and Jonnie, his golden retriever guide dog. He also draws on screen-reader software and smartphone apps. He uses the free app Be My Eyes, which relies on a network of 1.2 million volunteers to provide directions through the airport via live video. In addition, he uses Aira, a monthly subscription app that uses a smartphone camera or a pair of glasses outfitted with a camera to live-stream video to an agent, who then provides navigational instructions. Ten airports, including ones in Seattle, Boston, Houston, Memphis and Minneapolis, currently offer zones where blind and visually impaired travelers can download the Aira app and use the service without charge. (Several more airports are expected to offer complimentary service this summer.) David Wilson, the director of innovation at the Sea-Tac Airport, says blind travelers no longer have to rely on wheelchair attendants. 'With Aira, they can get up and go to a restroom, go to a concession,' he said. 'It's independence. Still, the Americans With Disabilities Act, which became law in 1990, applies to airports and ground transportation -- trains, buses and subways. But airline cabins are governed by the Air Carrier Access Act, which was enacted in 1986 and does not carry as many accessibility requirements. If, for example, someone uses a motorized wheelchair, it must be checked at the end of the jetway. Wheelchair assistants, often contractors, help the passenger transfer to a wheelchair that can fit down the narrow aisles and then to their seat (a foldable aisle wheelchair is also kept on board). 'The most accessible feature on an airplane is the fact that the arm rest lifts up to get in and out of the seat, and that's about it,' said Lee Page, a quadriplegic who uses a wheelchair full time and serves as the senior advocacy director for Paralyzed Veterans of America. A spokesman for Delta Air Lines, Anthony Black, said its gate agents must complete a 'comprehensive accessibility curriculum' for travelers with disabilities that includes training on everything from handling service animals to transfer assistance onto a plane. A spokesman for United Airlines, Charles Hobart, said the carrier had a 24-hour accessibility desk and also trained all of the employees who work directly with customers on how to assist passengers with disabilities. Southwest Airlines said all of its customer representatives were trained to help customers with disabilities, and it maintained a video relay and a Teletypewriter number for deaf travelers. But disabled travelers, including Teresa Blankmeyer Burke, an associate professor of philosophy at Gallaudet University, who is deaf, say airlines could improve their training. She said she would like airlines to do a better job of reassuring deaf and hard-of-hearing travelers that 'our presence has been noted and that we will not be overlooked. Sheryl Stroup, a safety expert for the Association of Flight Attendants-CWA, said flight attendants were responsible for communicating directly with disabled passengers to make sure their needs are met. 'You need to go ask them, 'How can I best assist you? she said. Ms. Blankmeyer Burke says she wears a brightly colored piece of clothing or a distinctive hat so that she's readily identifiable and introduces herself to the ticketing crew at the airport, train station or bus terminal with a note. 'I print out a script that tells the flight attendants a little bit about my communication needs and abilities, where I am sitting, and also notes my beverage preferences and my destination,' she said in an email. 'In this document, I explicitly state that I want important announcements written and I ask who will be responsible for communicating with me in case of emergency. Ms. Blankmeyer Burke says she carries a small notebook or types inquiries on her smartphone and travels with a
[AI] Wheelchair- Article in TOI 26 June 2018
*Wheelchair-bound MP swimmer conquers English Channel* · The Times of India (Mumbai edition) · 26 Jun 2018 · Ramendra.Singh @timesgroup.com Bhopal: Two years ago, he was not allowed to swim in Bhopal’s Upper Lake. On Sunday, Satendra Singh—who is disabled from waist-below—conquered the English Channel, the first person from Madhya Pradesh to do so. The wheelchair-bound champ told TOI on Monday that as he fought choppy waves during the nearly 12-and-a-halfhour swim, there was just one thought on his mind: if he doesn’t make it, his family will be homeless. “You see, I mortgaged my house to arrange Rs 18 lakh for the Channel chal- lenge,” he said from London. “Now, my next challenge is to repay it.” The 30-year-old was part of a swimming team that, for the first time, saw four paraswimmers from India crossing the English Channel, from Dover to Audingham. With a string of medals hanging at his (now mortgaged) home, Satendra truly exemplifies the term ‘specially abled’. He is the first person in the country with 75% disability to complete a 36km Arabian Sea swim. He clocked 5 hours and 43 minutes from Prongs Reef Lighthouse to Elephanta Island in preparation for the English Channel challenge. He recalled the time Bhopal administration ignored his letters for permission to swim in Upper Lake. “I wanted to swim from Vardhman Ghat to Khanugaon, about 3-4km, to test myself. Also, I belong to Madhya Pradesh and I wanted to perform in front of my own people. I wrote to them in 2016 but was turned down,” he told TOI. Asked about this, collector Sudam Khade said he wasn’t in Bhopal in 2016 and couldn’t say why Satendra’s plea was rejected. “Ask the sports department,” he said. The then deputy director of sports, Upendra Jain, told TOI that it doesn’t come in their purview. “My primary objective was to encourage physically-challenged people. I wanted to prove that we can all be supermen or women. Being cold-shouldered only made me more determined,” said Satendra, a government clerk posted in Indore. In 2014, he was presented the Vikram Award by CM Shivraj Singh Chouhan. But when it came to funds, he found himself alone. A few NGOs helped but it wasn’t enough. “Senior IAS officer P Narhari helped me arrange the money. I will always be thankful to him. But I had to mortgage my house,” he said, adding: “I do not know how and when I will be able to repay the loan. But I tell myself that if I can swim the English Channel, I will find a way for this too.” The swim was gruelling, he said. Midway through the Channel, he realized why his earlier application was rejected in 2017 with the remark that he “wasn’t prepared”. “The temperature of the water was around 12-14 degrees, but my biggest worry was the jellyfish,” he said. “I thought I’d give up, but then images of my family and my mortgaged house flashed before my eyes. I wanted to make India proud but it cost me a lot,” said Satendra. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines
Bhiwani and Shweta please don’t forget that there are many exams and there are many courses of study. K -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma Sent: 26 June 2018 16:11 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines the qualification of the scribe should be one standard less what the post requires not the qualification of candidate. if a clerk exam requires minimum 12th pass then the scribe should be at 11th standard. no matter the education of candidate whether is PHD or 12th. this means a PHD qualified candidate can bring 11th pass person for scribe. only the regular students or studying candidates should be allowed as scribe. -Original Message- From: Shweta Mishra Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 3:34 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines right Kanchan mam. but according to me, if a PHD candidate is allow to bring a graduate scribe, then the twelfth passed candidate should also be allowed to bring graduate scribe. On 6/26/18, Kanchan Pamnani wrote: > No Harish. Shweta was more right than you. > So lets go with the clerk example. > > There are 2 candidates-one has a PHD and one is a12th pass. > The12th pass can get a scribe who is not a 12th pass. The PHD can get > a scribe who is not a PhD but definitely more than a 12 pass. Sounds > unfair but actually it might solve this problem of professional writers. > Kanchan > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On > Behalf Of Kotian, H P > Sent: 26 June 2018 14:44 > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues > concerning the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines > > Hi > If I understand the scenario correct for example the post is for a > clerk for which the minimum qualification is HSC, there are 2 > candidates one a post graduate and another a HSC. The qualification to > consider for the job is HSC and not the qualification of the candidate. > Therefore the qualification for a scribe should not be HSC passed in > this case. > > I am aware the minimum qualification for clerk is no more HSC. > Mentioned it for illustration purpose. > > Harish. > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On > Behalf Of Shweta Mishra > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 1:51 PM > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues > concerning the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines > > hi friends! > it means, scribe criteria will be different for for candidates with > different qualification. > for example, a post graduate and a twelfth passed candidate is > appearing for the same competitive exam, then what will be scribe > criteria for both candidates? > if a post graduate candidate will bring graduate scribe, then won't it > be injustice to the twelfth passed candidate? because twelfth passed > candidate will be allowed to bring maximum eleventh passed scribe. > > On 6/26/18, Lyngdoh wrote: >> Can someone help me out with scribe for SBI PO 2018 exams... I mean >> what qualification shall I ask for from my to be scribe then? In the >> past I have always looked for graduates. >> >> On 6/26/18, Asudani, Rajesh wrote: >>> Congrats! >>> Retention of capacity to choose own scribe, though less in >>> qualification than oneself, along with freedom to use devices, and >>> meet the scribe two days in advance is a superb victory. >>> >>> At least folks now at least, stop using professional scribes. >>> Accessible exams, if online or computerized, is the ultimate dream. >>> >>> >>> सादर / With thanks & Regards >>> राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani >>> सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM >>> बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU >>> भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India नागपुर Nagpur >>> >>> 0712 2806846 >>> >>> President >>> VIBEWA >>> Co-Moderator >>> VIB-India >>> >>> A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and >>> laughter. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >>> Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani >>> Sent: 25 June 2018 16:18 >>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>> concerning the disabled.' >>> Subject: [AI] Scribe guidelines >>> >>> Sorry folks for not reporting for 2 days. A lot of you have already >>> heard what happened but let me explain a few issues >>> >>> 1. You all know that in 2013 we got new guidelines for the use of >>> scribes. This was far and beyond what had been given by Courts and >>> definitely more than what we had demanded at different times. >>> >>> 2. So far about one year there was not too much of a problem >>> because >>> no one really implemented the guidelines. >>> >>> 3. Then the penny
Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines
Shweta please don’t say you cant get a scribe because the Authorities are saying that they will provide and we don’t have to worry. All my effort will go to nought. K -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Shweta Mishra Sent: 26 June 2018 16:30 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines but bhawani sir, it'll be very difficult for many candidates to get a good studying scribe,because these days, students are very busy in their own assignments. then how will they be able to give their precious time to some one? On 6/26/18, bhawani shankar verma wrote: > the qualification of the scribe should be one standard less what the > post requires not the qualification of candidate. if a clerk exam > requires minimum 12th pass then the scribe should be at 11th standard. > no matter the education of candidate whether is PHD or 12th. this > means a PHD qualified candidate can bring 11th pass person for scribe. > only the regular students or studying candidates should be allowed as scribe. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Shweta Mishra > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 3:34 PM > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues > concerning the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines > > right Kanchan mam. > but according to me, if a PHD candidate is allow to bring a graduate > scribe, then the twelfth passed candidate should also be allowed to > bring graduate scribe. > > On 6/26/18, Kanchan Pamnani wrote: >> No Harish. Shweta was more right than you. >> So lets go with the clerk example. >> >> There are 2 candidates-one has a PHD and one is a12th pass. >> The12th pass can get a scribe who is not a 12th pass. The PHD can get >> a scribe who is not a PhD but definitely more than a 12 pass. Sounds >> unfair but actually it might solve this problem of professional writers. >> Kanchan >> >> -Original Message- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >> Behalf Of Kotian, H P >> Sent: 26 June 2018 14:44 >> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >> concerning the disabled. >> Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines >> >> Hi >> If I understand the scenario correct for example the post is for a >> clerk for which the minimum qualification is HSC, there are 2 >> candidates one a post graduate and another a HSC. The qualification >> to consider for the job is HSC and not the qualification of the candidate. >> Therefore the qualification for a scribe should not be HSC passed in >> this case. >> >> I am aware the minimum qualification for clerk is no more HSC. >> Mentioned it for illustration purpose. >> >> Harish. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >> Behalf Of Shweta Mishra >> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 1:51 PM >> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >> concerning the disabled. >> Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines >> >> hi friends! >> it means, scribe criteria will be different for for candidates with >> different qualification. >> for example, a post graduate and a twelfth passed candidate is >> appearing for the same competitive exam, then what will be scribe >> criteria for both candidates? >> if a post graduate candidate will bring graduate scribe, then won't >> it be injustice to the twelfth passed candidate? because twelfth >> passed candidate will be allowed to bring maximum eleventh passed >> scribe. >> >> On 6/26/18, Lyngdoh wrote: >>> Can someone help me out with scribe for SBI PO 2018 exams... I mean >>> what qualification shall I ask for from my to be scribe then? In the >>> past I have always looked for graduates. >>> >>> On 6/26/18, Asudani, Rajesh wrote: Congrats! Retention of capacity to choose own scribe, though less in qualification than oneself, along with freedom to use devices, and meet the scribe two days in advance is a superb victory. At least folks now at least, stop using professional scribes. Accessible exams, if online or computerized, is the ultimate dream. सादर / With thanks & Regards राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India नागपुर Nagpur 0712 2806846 President VIBEWA Co-Moderator VIB-India A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and laughter. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani Sent: 25 June 2018 16:18 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: [AI] Scribe guidelines Sorry folks for not reporting for 2 days. A lot
Re: [AI] (AI) accessible video editors for windows and android
I see that the format factory is a media converter. Is there a app which can do pure video edits??? Best Regards- ABHISAR WAGHMARE Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Article in BT 4 May 2018
Marvelous indeed. On June 25, 2018 3:39:01 PM Kanchan Pamnani wrote: Inspirational Devika Malik Speaking to Devika Malik, there is only one word that comes to mind, inspirational. Recently appointed to the position of focal point for people with disabilities of the standing committee of the Office of Special Interest Groups, Devika Malik was born a female with disability in India and this has enabled her to have a sensitised world view. She had a case of congenital hemiplegia (partial paralysis and weakness in left arm & left leg) and her mother a paraplegic for the last 17 years; and being raised in a family of Army Officers, these factors sensitized her towards the cause of inclusive society & peace since a young age. She recounts her greatest achievements to us and it goes without saying that disability is NOT inability: “I am an *International Para-athlete with* *3 medals at the IPC World Athletics Grand Prix an*d *Psychological Counsellor* with a Masters in Psychology from Delhi University. Combining my passion for inclusive sport development & Peace, I am an active *contributor to the* *Olympic Truce Peace Campaign* as well as an alumnus of the *Youth Leadership Program conducted by the United Nations Office of Sport for Development & Peace* *(UNOSDP) in Tokyo*. On*International Youth Day 2014, I addressed a national conference organized by PHD Chambers of Commerce*, expounding strategies for Inclusive sport development.” This was not where it stopped but she decided to start her own organisation: “My mother and I started our *NGO, Wheeling Happiness *( https://www.facebook.com/wheelinghappiness/) in July 2014, and one of our main strategies is to *utilize sports for social development & emotional well-being of people with disabilities*. I also provide free counselling services to physically challenged persons from underprivileged backgrounds. The foundation has conducted programs to promote an inclusive society, such as, construction of ramps at railway stations, sensitizing road commuters to follow traffic rules keeping visually and physically impaired pedestrians in view, sponsoring slum children to experience adventure sports and raising funds for artificial limbs for underprivileged users etc. As the co-founder, I have also*represented the foundation at the Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting (CHOGM) Malta, Youth Forum*. “ Greeted by PM Narendra Modi and Duke and Duchess of Cambridge in appreciation of service to the community. Receiving the Queen’s Young Leader Award for working towards emotional well-being of Persons with Disabilities and their caregivers in India. Her most recent recognition came from Her Majesty The Queen as she was awarded the Queen’s Young Leader 2015 medal at Buckingham Palace and as a QYL her work did not stop there. She tells us of her other commitments to youth engagement and sports: “My interview has also featured in the Queen’s 90th Birthday documentary – ‘Our Queen At Ninety’. I was invited to share my volunteer work experiences with the *Duke and Duchess of Cambridge at British High Commissioner’s residence* in Delhi. On 12th April 2016, the PM Narendra Modi hosted a luncheon, where the *PM invited me to acknowledge my efforts* towards inclusion & wellbeing of persons with disabilities. I’m an *Asian Representative of the* *Commonwealth Youth Sport for Development & Peace (CYSDP) Working Group*, consisting of a total of 12 individuals selected from all 53 Commonwealth Nations. I also undertake counselling for caregivers of people with disabilities and cancer patients. I am a firm believer of *equality across the gender spectrum* and advocate for the *feminist* movement, as the stereotypes patriarchy imposes are equally harmful and constraining for both men & women. Young Devika continues to advocate for inclusive societies and had the privilege to deliver a TEDx Talk and also gave a talk at the *Commonwealth Secretariat HQ in London*. Her work embodies SDG 10 – Equal Opportunities, and she is an advocate of the *Accessible India Campaign.* Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list.. Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes,
[AI] Do You’ve Rs. 200 & Rs. 2000 Note? This Big Decision By RBI May Affect You
Do You’ve Rs. 200 & Rs. 2000 Note? This Big Decision By RBI May Affect You If you are not worried that you have mutilated note of Rs. 200 or Rs.2000 then this recent media report is definitely for you. The Indian banks according to the Note Refund Policy are supposed to take the old mutilated notes back but now the banks are refusing to accept the torn new Indian currency as the rules governing their exchange are yet to be amended. This is another very shocking news as per Indian Citizen perspective after the sudden demonetization back in 2006. After the Notes Refund Policy was implemented in 2009, it became mandatory for all the banks to accept the currency notes in the denomination of Rs.1, Rs. 2, Rs. 5, Rs. 10, Rs. 20, Rs. 50, Rs. 100, Rs. 500, and Rs. 1000. But the same isn’t possible with the new currency because even after the demonetization of Rs.500 and Rs.1000 notes on 8 Nov 2016, there were no changes made in the Note Refund Policy. Without the change in the policy, it has started creating a problem for the common man living in India. The new notes such as Rs.200 notes or Rs.2000 notes haven’t found their place in the Note Refund Policy and hence this problem is raising speculations around the population in India that they might not be able to change torn, mutilated and soiled currency notes of Rs.200 and Rs.2000. The torn and soiled currency notes as described by the rule of Note Refund Policy are the ones dirty due to usage or the note pasted together to form the entire currency note. The Reserve Bank Of India officially commented on the topic and said that after the demonetization, the size of the Mahatma Gandhi (New) Series notes has changed. The imperfect or the torn notes can’t be changed under the existing rules of the Note Refund Rules,2009. The mutilated notes in the MG (New) series will be exchanged after the notification of amendments in the official gazette. (This link open in new tab) Image Source The Exchange of mutilated and soiled currency notes is handled by the Reserve Bank Of India (RBI) and the Note Refund Policy is the part of Section 28. There are around 6.70 lakh crore Rs.2000 notes in circulation in the country and even though they have stopped printing new notes. Many banks have mentioned the case of the mutilated notes and it can become a major issue if the law isn’t amended soon. It is very unclear why the central government is taking so much time to bring out the changes in Note Refund Policy. The Reserve Bank Of India hasn’t specified a timeframe but they have promised that necessary action will be taken to solve this problem. http://www.samadhaannow.com/do-youve-rs-200-rs-2000-note-this-big-decision-by-rbi-may-affect-you/?utm_source=Internal_Mailers_medium=Refund_Policy Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines
but bhawani sir, it'll be very difficult for many candidates to get a good studying scribe,because these days, students are very busy in their own assignments. then how will they be able to give their precious time to some one? On 6/26/18, bhawani shankar verma wrote: > the qualification of the scribe should be one standard less what the post > requires not the qualification of candidate. if a clerk exam requires > minimum 12th pass then the scribe should be at 11th standard. no matter the > education of candidate whether is PHD or 12th. this means a PHD qualified > candidate can bring 11th pass person for scribe. only the regular students > or studying candidates should be allowed as scribe. > > > > -Original Message- > From: Shweta Mishra > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 3:34 PM > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines > > right Kanchan mam. > but according to me, if a PHD candidate is allow to bring a graduate > scribe, then the twelfth passed candidate should also be allowed to > bring graduate scribe. > > On 6/26/18, Kanchan Pamnani wrote: >> No Harish. Shweta was more right than you. >> So lets go with the clerk example. >> >> There are 2 candidates-one has a PHD and one is a12th pass. >> The12th pass can get a scribe who is not a 12th pass. The PHD can get a >> scribe who is not a PhD but definitely more than a 12 pass. Sounds unfair >> but actually it might solve this problem of professional writers. >> Kanchan >> >> -Original Message- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >> Behalf >> Of Kotian, H P >> Sent: 26 June 2018 14:44 >> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning >> the disabled. >> Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines >> >> Hi >> If I understand the scenario correct for example the post is for a clerk >> for which the minimum qualification is HSC, there are 2 candidates one a >> post graduate and another a HSC. The qualification to consider for the job >> is HSC and not the qualification of the candidate. >> Therefore the qualification for a scribe should not be HSC passed in this >> case. >> >> I am aware the minimum qualification for clerk is no more HSC. Mentioned >> it >> for illustration purpose. >> >> Harish. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >> Behalf >> Of Shweta Mishra >> Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 1:51 PM >> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning >> the disabled. >> Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines >> >> hi friends! >> it means, scribe criteria will be different for for candidates with >> different qualification. >> for example, a post graduate and a twelfth passed candidate is appearing >> for >> the same competitive exam, then what will be scribe criteria for both >> candidates? >> if a post graduate candidate will bring graduate scribe, then won't it be >> injustice to the twelfth passed candidate? because twelfth passed >> candidate >> will be allowed to bring maximum eleventh passed scribe. >> >> On 6/26/18, Lyngdoh wrote: >>> Can someone help me out with scribe for SBI PO 2018 exams... I mean >>> what qualification shall I ask for from my to be scribe then? In the >>> past I have always looked for graduates. >>> >>> On 6/26/18, Asudani, Rajesh wrote: Congrats! Retention of capacity to choose own scribe, though less in qualification than oneself, along with freedom to use devices, and meet the scribe two days in advance is a superb victory. At least folks now at least, stop using professional scribes. Accessible exams, if online or computerized, is the ultimate dream. सादर / With thanks & Regards राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India नागपुर Nagpur 0712 2806846 President VIBEWA Co-Moderator VIB-India A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and laughter. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani Sent: 25 June 2018 16:18 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: [AI] Scribe guidelines Sorry folks for not reporting for 2 days. A lot of you have already heard what happened but let me explain a few issues 1. You all know that in 2013 we got new guidelines for the use of scribes. This was far and beyond what had been given by Courts and definitely more than what we had demanded at different times. 2. So far about one year there was not too much of a problem because no one really implemented the guidelines. 3. Then the penny
Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines
the qualification of the scribe should be one standard less what the post requires not the qualification of candidate. if a clerk exam requires minimum 12th pass then the scribe should be at 11th standard. no matter the education of candidate whether is PHD or 12th. this means a PHD qualified candidate can bring 11th pass person for scribe. only the regular students or studying candidates should be allowed as scribe. -Original Message- From: Shweta Mishra Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 3:34 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines right Kanchan mam. but according to me, if a PHD candidate is allow to bring a graduate scribe, then the twelfth passed candidate should also be allowed to bring graduate scribe. On 6/26/18, Kanchan Pamnani wrote: No Harish. Shweta was more right than you. So lets go with the clerk example. There are 2 candidates-one has a PHD and one is a12th pass. The12th pass can get a scribe who is not a 12th pass. The PHD can get a scribe who is not a PhD but definitely more than a 12 pass. Sounds unfair but actually it might solve this problem of professional writers. Kanchan -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kotian, H P Sent: 26 June 2018 14:44 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines Hi If I understand the scenario correct for example the post is for a clerk for which the minimum qualification is HSC, there are 2 candidates one a post graduate and another a HSC. The qualification to consider for the job is HSC and not the qualification of the candidate. Therefore the qualification for a scribe should not be HSC passed in this case. I am aware the minimum qualification for clerk is no more HSC. Mentioned it for illustration purpose. Harish. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Shweta Mishra Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 1:51 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines hi friends! it means, scribe criteria will be different for for candidates with different qualification. for example, a post graduate and a twelfth passed candidate is appearing for the same competitive exam, then what will be scribe criteria for both candidates? if a post graduate candidate will bring graduate scribe, then won't it be injustice to the twelfth passed candidate? because twelfth passed candidate will be allowed to bring maximum eleventh passed scribe. On 6/26/18, Lyngdoh wrote: Can someone help me out with scribe for SBI PO 2018 exams... I mean what qualification shall I ask for from my to be scribe then? In the past I have always looked for graduates. On 6/26/18, Asudani, Rajesh wrote: Congrats! Retention of capacity to choose own scribe, though less in qualification than oneself, along with freedom to use devices, and meet the scribe two days in advance is a superb victory. At least folks now at least, stop using professional scribes. Accessible exams, if online or computerized, is the ultimate dream. सादर / With thanks & Regards राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India नागपुर Nagpur 0712 2806846 President VIBEWA Co-Moderator VIB-India A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and laughter. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani Sent: 25 June 2018 16:18 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: [AI] Scribe guidelines Sorry folks for not reporting for 2 days. A lot of you have already heard what happened but let me explain a few issues 1. You all know that in 2013 we got new guidelines for the use of scribes. This was far and beyond what had been given by Courts and definitely more than what we had demanded at different times. 2. So far about one year there was not too much of a problem because no one really implemented the guidelines. 3. Then the penny dropped-U PS C and others started saying that these guidelines were unfair. 4. Some of our own VI candidates decided that these guidelines gave them the right to have overqualified or should I say coached writers. 5. Our other VI who suffered because of the special writers complained to U P S C and to the Courts-Bombay and Eranakulam I am told. 6. Then the Government set up our committee. We met about 3 times but could not agree so the MSJE set up a sub-committee. 7. This subcommittee gave a report which we had to discuss at this meeting on 20th June. 8. I had shared the sub-committee's report and the comments of U PS C and SSC.
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right Kanchan mam. but according to me, if a PHD candidate is allow to bring a graduate scribe, then the twelfth passed candidate should also be allowed to bring graduate scribe. On 6/26/18, Kanchan Pamnani wrote: > No Harish. Shweta was more right than you. > So lets go with the clerk example. > > There are 2 candidates-one has a PHD and one is a12th pass. > The12th pass can get a scribe who is not a 12th pass. The PHD can get a > scribe who is not a PhD but definitely more than a 12 pass. Sounds unfair > but actually it might solve this problem of professional writers. > Kanchan > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of Kotian, H P > Sent: 26 June 2018 14:44 > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines > > Hi > If I understand the scenario correct for example the post is for a clerk > for which the minimum qualification is HSC, there are 2 candidates one a > post graduate and another a HSC. The qualification to consider for the job > is HSC and not the qualification of the candidate. > Therefore the qualification for a scribe should not be HSC passed in this > case. > > I am aware the minimum qualification for clerk is no more HSC. Mentioned it > for illustration purpose. > > Harish. > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of Shweta Mishra > Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 1:51 PM > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines > > hi friends! > it means, scribe criteria will be different for for candidates with > different qualification. > for example, a post graduate and a twelfth passed candidate is appearing for > the same competitive exam, then what will be scribe criteria for both > candidates? > if a post graduate candidate will bring graduate scribe, then won't it be > injustice to the twelfth passed candidate? because twelfth passed candidate > will be allowed to bring maximum eleventh passed scribe. > > On 6/26/18, Lyngdoh wrote: >> Can someone help me out with scribe for SBI PO 2018 exams... I mean >> what qualification shall I ask for from my to be scribe then? In the >> past I have always looked for graduates. >> >> On 6/26/18, Asudani, Rajesh wrote: >>> Congrats! >>> Retention of capacity to choose own scribe, though less in >>> qualification than oneself, along with freedom to use devices, and >>> meet the scribe two days in advance is a superb victory. >>> >>> At least folks now at least, stop using professional scribes. >>> Accessible exams, if online or computerized, is the ultimate dream. >>> >>> >>> सादर / With thanks & Regards >>> राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani >>> सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM >>> बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU >>> भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India नागपुर Nagpur >>> >>> 0712 2806846 >>> >>> President >>> VIBEWA >>> Co-Moderator >>> VIB-India >>> >>> A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and >>> laughter. >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >>> Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani >>> Sent: 25 June 2018 16:18 >>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>> concerning the disabled.' >>> Subject: [AI] Scribe guidelines >>> >>> Sorry folks for not reporting for 2 days. A lot of you have already >>> heard what happened but let me explain a few issues >>> >>> 1. You all know that in 2013 we got new guidelines for the use of >>> scribes. This was far and beyond what had been given by Courts and >>> definitely more than what we had demanded at different times. >>> >>> 2. So far about one year there was not too much of a problem >>> because >>> no one really implemented the guidelines. >>> >>> 3. Then the penny dropped-U PS C and others started saying that >>> these >>> guidelines were unfair. >>> >>> 4. Some of our own VI candidates decided that these guidelines gave >>> them the right to have overqualified or should I say coached writers. >>> >>> 5. Our other VI who suffered because of the special writers >>> complained >>> to U P S C and to the Courts-Bombay and Eranakulam I am told. >>> >>> 6. Then the Government set up our committee. We met about 3 times >>> but >>> could not agree so the MSJE set up a sub-committee. >>> >>> 7. This subcommittee gave a report which we had to discuss at this >>> meeting on 20th June. >>> >>> 8. I had shared the sub-committee's report and the comments of U PS >>> C >>> and SSC. >>> >>> 9. Our meeting started an hour and half late because the Secretary >>> had >>> gone to meet the Minister. >>> >>> 10. Before she came in the other committee members gave theiropinion on >>> the subcommittees report. Only Mr. Rungta and I were left to give our >>> comments when the Secretary
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No Harish. Shweta was more right than you. So lets go with the clerk example. There are 2 candidates-one has a PHD and one is a12th pass. The12th pass can get a scribe who is not a 12th pass. The PHD can get a scribe who is not a PhD but definitely more than a 12 pass. Sounds unfair but actually it might solve this problem of professional writers. Kanchan -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kotian, H P Sent: 26 June 2018 14:44 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines Hi If I understand the scenario correct for example the post is for a clerk for which the minimum qualification is HSC, there are 2 candidates one a post graduate and another a HSC. The qualification to consider for the job is HSC and not the qualification of the candidate. Therefore the qualification for a scribe should not be HSC passed in this case. I am aware the minimum qualification for clerk is no more HSC. Mentioned it for illustration purpose. Harish. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Shweta Mishra Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 1:51 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines hi friends! it means, scribe criteria will be different for for candidates with different qualification. for example, a post graduate and a twelfth passed candidate is appearing for the same competitive exam, then what will be scribe criteria for both candidates? if a post graduate candidate will bring graduate scribe, then won't it be injustice to the twelfth passed candidate? because twelfth passed candidate will be allowed to bring maximum eleventh passed scribe. On 6/26/18, Lyngdoh wrote: > Can someone help me out with scribe for SBI PO 2018 exams... I mean > what qualification shall I ask for from my to be scribe then? In the > past I have always looked for graduates. > > On 6/26/18, Asudani, Rajesh wrote: >> Congrats! >> Retention of capacity to choose own scribe, though less in >> qualification than oneself, along with freedom to use devices, and >> meet the scribe two days in advance is a superb victory. >> >> At least folks now at least, stop using professional scribes. >> Accessible exams, if online or computerized, is the ultimate dream. >> >> >> सादर / With thanks & Regards >> राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani >> सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM >> बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU >> भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India नागपुर Nagpur >> >> 0712 2806846 >> >> President >> VIBEWA >> Co-Moderator >> VIB-India >> >> A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and >> laughter. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >> Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani >> Sent: 25 June 2018 16:18 >> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >> concerning the disabled.' >> Subject: [AI] Scribe guidelines >> >> Sorry folks for not reporting for 2 days. A lot of you have already >> heard what happened but let me explain a few issues >> >> 1. You all know that in 2013 we got new guidelines for the use of >> scribes. This was far and beyond what had been given by Courts and >> definitely more than what we had demanded at different times. >> >> 2. So far about one year there was not too much of a problem because >> no one really implemented the guidelines. >> >> 3. Then the penny dropped-U PS C and others started saying that >> these >> guidelines were unfair. >> >> 4. Some of our own VI candidates decided that these guidelines gave >> them the right to have overqualified or should I say coached writers. >> >> 5. Our other VI who suffered because of the special writers >> complained >> to U P S C and to the Courts-Bombay and Eranakulam I am told. >> >> 6. Then the Government set up our committee. We met about 3 times >> but >> could not agree so the MSJE set up a sub-committee. >> >> 7. This subcommittee gave a report which we had to discuss at this >> meeting on 20th June. >> >> 8. I had shared the sub-committee's report and the comments of U PS >> C >> and SSC. >> >> 9. Our meeting started an hour and half late because the Secretary >> had >> gone to meet the Minister. >> >> 10. Before she came in the other committee members gave theiropinion on >> the subcommittees report. Only Mr. Rungta and I were left to give our >> comments when the Secretary arrived and we started the formal meeting. >> >> 11. It was quite a hot debate. >> >> 12. The problem with govt agencies is that they don't send the same >> person >> to the followup meetings. This includes U P S C and our own NIVH. >> This hampers progressive discussion and we cannot pin the representative >> down. >> >> 13. There was no problem
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Please help!. Send me the details of the Ernakulam and Bombay High Court cases. Kanchan -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Asudani, Rajesh Sent: 26 June 2018 10:28 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines Congrats! Retention of capacity to choose own scribe, though less in qualification than oneself, along with freedom to use devices, and meet the scribe two days in advance is a superb victory. At least folks now at least, stop using professional scribes. Accessible exams, if online or computerized, is the ultimate dream. सादर / With thanks & Regards राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India नागपुर Nagpur 0712 2806846 President VIBEWA Co-Moderator VIB-India A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and laughter. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani Sent: 25 June 2018 16:18 To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.' Subject: [AI] Scribe guidelines Sorry folks for not reporting for 2 days. A lot of you have already heard what happened but let me explain a few issues 1. You all know that in 2013 we got new guidelines for the use of scribes. This was far and beyond what had been given by Courts and definitely more than what we had demanded at different times. 2. So far about one year there was not too much of a problem because no one really implemented the guidelines. 3. Then the penny dropped-U PS C and others started saying that these guidelines were unfair. 4. Some of our own VI candidates decided that these guidelines gave them the right to have overqualified or should I say coached writers. 5. Our other VI who suffered because of the special writers complained to U P S C and to the Courts-Bombay and Eranakulam I am told. 6. Then the Government set up our committee. We met about 3 times but could not agree so the MSJE set up a sub-committee. 7. This subcommittee gave a report which we had to discuss at this meeting on 20th June. 8. I had shared the sub-committee's report and the comments of U PS C and SSC. 9. Our meeting started an hour and half late because the Secretary had gone to meet the Minister. 10. Before she came in the other committee members gave theiropinion on the subcommittees report. Only Mr. Rungta and I were left to give our comments when the Secretary arrived and we started the formal meeting. 11. It was quite a hot debate. 12. The problem with govt agencies is that they don't send the same person to the followup meetings. This includes U P S C and our own NIVH. This hampers progressive discussion and we cannot pin the representative down. 13. There was no problem with compensatory time etc. The recommendations of the Sub-committee were accepted. 14. So what have we won or should I say retained-the first right of the candidate to choose his scribe. If not available then the Examining body can provide not less than a matriculate. 15. Further you can meet your scribe 2 days in advance. 16. Some other devices etc for other disabilities that can be used.Our committee added to Sub committee recommendations. This added to the original guidelines. 17. The only problem with the subcommittee's suggestion is that they are not allowing you to use your own laptop. I however feel that this should not be in the guidelines. I know atleast 2 members on this list who have used their own laptops and didn't have a problem after explanations. This may be considered to be a loss and squarely attributable to the subcommittee. 18. Now the loss that will bother us some day-the scribe has to be less in qualification than the candidate. 19. So this guideline has got nothing to do with the exam but only with the candidate. Keeping in mind that the minimum educational qualification for a scribe is matriculation. This does not sound too bad but ground realities will tell. 20. So the meeting ended about three and half hours later with 2 cups of tea and 4 biscuits thrown in. The Secretary will have to report to the courts. 21. The fact that we have the right to choose our own scribe is going to be debated over and over again until we stop the malpractises and each of you reading my email or whatsapp need to take care of the situation. You are responsible for what lies ahead. I know the argument about supervision. 22. It is not an easy task to take the whole room on by just 2 people. We did it because you gave us strength. We were prepared and many weren't. However it has taken lots of persuasion, anger, raised voices and a lot of diplomacy. 23. What will let us down is the continuous use of professional
Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines
Hi If I understand the scenario correct for example the post is for a clerk for which the minimum qualification is HSC, there are 2 candidates one a post graduate and another a HSC. The qualification to consider for the job is HSC and not the qualification of the candidate. Therefore the qualification for a scribe should not be HSC passed in this case. I am aware the minimum qualification for clerk is no more HSC. Mentioned it for illustration purpose. Harish. -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Shweta Mishra Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2018 1:51 PM To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines hi friends! it means, scribe criteria will be different for for candidates with different qualification. for example, a post graduate and a twelfth passed candidate is appearing for the same competitive exam, then what will be scribe criteria for both candidates? if a post graduate candidate will bring graduate scribe, then won't it be injustice to the twelfth passed candidate? because twelfth passed candidate will be allowed to bring maximum eleventh passed scribe. On 6/26/18, Lyngdoh wrote: > Can someone help me out with scribe for SBI PO 2018 exams... I mean > what qualification shall I ask for from my to be scribe then? In the > past I have always looked for graduates. > > On 6/26/18, Asudani, Rajesh wrote: >> Congrats! >> Retention of capacity to choose own scribe, though less in >> qualification than oneself, along with freedom to use devices, and >> meet the scribe two days in advance is a superb victory. >> >> At least folks now at least, stop using professional scribes. >> Accessible exams, if online or computerized, is the ultimate dream. >> >> >> सादर / With thanks & Regards >> राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani >> सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM >> बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU >> भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India नागपुर Nagpur >> >> 0712 2806846 >> >> President >> VIBEWA >> Co-Moderator >> VIB-India >> >> A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and >> laughter. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >> Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani >> Sent: 25 June 2018 16:18 >> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >> concerning the disabled.' >> Subject: [AI] Scribe guidelines >> >> Sorry folks for not reporting for 2 days. A lot of you have already >> heard what happened but let me explain a few issues >> >> 1. You all know that in 2013 we got new guidelines for the use of >> scribes. This was far and beyond what had been given by Courts and >> definitely more than what we had demanded at different times. >> >> 2. So far about one year there was not too much of a problem because >> no one really implemented the guidelines. >> >> 3. Then the penny dropped-U PS C and others started saying that >> these >> guidelines were unfair. >> >> 4. Some of our own VI candidates decided that these guidelines gave >> them the right to have overqualified or should I say coached writers. >> >> 5. Our other VI who suffered because of the special writers >> complained >> to U P S C and to the Courts-Bombay and Eranakulam I am told. >> >> 6. Then the Government set up our committee. We met about 3 times >> but >> could not agree so the MSJE set up a sub-committee. >> >> 7. This subcommittee gave a report which we had to discuss at this >> meeting on 20th June. >> >> 8. I had shared the sub-committee's report and the comments of U PS >> C >> and SSC. >> >> 9. Our meeting started an hour and half late because the Secretary >> had >> gone to meet the Minister. >> >> 10. Before she came in the other committee members gave theiropinion on >> the subcommittees report. Only Mr. Rungta and I were left to give our >> comments when the Secretary arrived and we started the formal meeting. >> >> 11. It was quite a hot debate. >> >> 12. The problem with govt agencies is that they don't send the same >> person >> to the followup meetings. This includes U P S C and our own NIVH. >> This hampers progressive discussion and we cannot pin the representative >> down. >> >> 13. There was no problem with compensatory time etc. The recommendations >> of the Sub-committee were accepted. >> >> 14. So what have we won or should I say retained-the first right of the >> candidate to choose his scribe. If not available then the Examining >> body can provide not less than a matriculate. >> >> 15. Further you can meet your scribe 2 days in advance. >> >> 16. Some other devices etc for other disabilities that can be used.Our >> committee added to Sub committee recommendations. This added to the >> original guidelines. >> >> 17. The only problem with the subcommittee's suggestion is that they >> are >> not allowing you to use your own
Re: [AI] HDFC Bank customers: list your challenges by this weekend
Thank you everyone for your inputs. I will let the list members know as in when things are implemented. Regards, Amar Jain Sent from my iPhone > On 25-Jun-2018, at 11:09 PM, Ajay Minocha wrote: > > Hi, > > Would like to ask members the specific issue which they are facing > with credit card statements? I can access my statements without any > issue with Jaws and Adobe reader. > > @Mohit, I somehow find SBI very user friendly and easy to use. > > HTH, > Ajay > >> On 24/06/2018, Mohit Gupta wrote: >> hi ajay, >> In your view, which bank's net banking and mobiel app is accessible? >> >>> On 6/22/18, Ajay Minocha wrote: >>> Website isn't really accessible with jaws. >>> >>> Also, as Alok said, there are a lot of unnecessary Captchas. >>> >>> Also, I am able to use their app but generating statements is a pain >>> even in the app without any captcha. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ajay >>> On 22/06/2018, Amar Jain wrote: Pranav, Please whats app your contact, I haven’t played with virtual cards much, so will call you from there in case of issues. Mobile: 9892622230. Sent from my iPhone > On 22-Jun-2018, at 6:19 AM, Pranav Lal wrote: > > If i generate a virtual credit card using net safe, the generated card > is > shown as an image and is inaccessible. I have to go the card history > feature to find details about my virtual card. I do not know if their > netsafe app is accessible on any platform. > The pdf forms in their customer center are not true forms so are hard to > fill. > In phone banking, i need to validate my credit card if i call from a > phone > that is not registered. The ivr timesout too quickly such that entering > the digits is a pain. > Pranav > >> On 21-Jun-2018, at 10:52 PM, Amar Jain wrote: >> >> Noted Alok. Have you got yourself their braille enabled debit card? >> HDFC >> has many, but it only works with those cards. >> >> Thank you. >> >> Regards, >> Amar Jain >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 21-Jun-2018, at 8:33 PM, Alok Kaushik wrote: >>> >>> Hi Amar, >>> When we try to download historical statements, i.e. any statement >>> older >>> than six months, it asks for a captcha text to be entered. This >>> captcha >>> does not have any audio option as well. Of course this feature is >>> reached after login, so need for a captcha at that stage does not >>> sound >>> very logical. I have been using HDFC net banking for many years now >>> and >>> this post-login captcha was not there earlier. >>> >>> When we try to view tax credit statement through net banking, it asks >>> for captcha text to be entered. This is also after login, so not very >>> logical. Also, once the user is redirected to traces website, there >>> is >>> one more captcha to deal with anyway. >>> >>> Another issue that comes up at times when I visit the branch is that >>> in case of signature mismatch they say that their system does not >>> display the photograph of the account holder, so it is difficult for >>> them to verify. This is the case when people at the branch know me >>> well >>> enough. They eventually do the work after some persuasion but the need >>> to persuade frequently is anyway there. If their system does not >>> display >>> the photograph of the account holder, it is worth considering having >>> it >>> there. This is based on the information provided by a branch official. >>> >>> More and more ATMs are now becoming talking ATMs. I have noticed >>> that >>> many SBI, ICICI, and other bank ATMs have become widely accessible. >>> However, HDFC Bank seems to be lagging on that front. >>> >>> Thanks. >>> Alok >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >>> Behalf Of Amar Jain >>> Sent: 21 June 2018 19:21 >>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>> Subject: [AI] HDFC Bank customers: list your challenges by this >>> weekend >>> >>> Dear All, >>> >>> I have a meeting early next week with senior people of the bank. List >>> down all specific challenges attached to disabilities vs. products and >>> services of the bank. This needs to happen by Sunday. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Amar Jain >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Search for old postings at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>> >>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>> >>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>> please visit the list home page at >>>
Re: [AI] Pls Connect me how to take railway concession
Thank you so much syed.. On Tue 26 Jun, 2018 2:08 pm Saluudin Mohd, wrote: > hey hi, > you have to approach to divisional railway manager's office, > commercial department, they will guide you how to apply for the > concession id card > thanks and regards > syed > > > On 26/06/2018, sibi mohamed wrote: > > On Mon 25 Jun, 2018 11:49 am sibi mohamed, wrote: > > > >> Dears, > >> Hoping all are doing well,after a gap I'm coming up wth my son's > >> needy.Recently I took my son vision disability medical certificate it's > >> having 70 %, by including hearing loss it's added as 90% disability,he's > >> having Usher Syndrome. we have not yet applied for any concessions, > >> please > >> let me know the details, will be very favourable > >> Thanking you > >> With regards > >> Siby.M > >> > > > > > > > > Search for old postings at: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > > > To unsubscribe send a message to > > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > > with the subject unsubscribe. > > > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please > > visit the list home page at > > > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > > > > Disclaimer: > > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of > the > > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the > mails > > sent through this mailing list.. > > > > > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, > please visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of > the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines
hi canchan mam! this kind of situation will occur. in all the exam where the minimum eligibility criteria for the candidate is twelfth passed or less. On 6/26/18, Kanchan Pamnani wrote: > Please continue current practises. When the guidelines change you will be > informed. > Status quo as of today. > Kanchan > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of Lyngdoh > Sent: 26 June 2018 13:12 > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines > > Can someone help me out with scribe for SBI PO 2018 exams... I mean what > qualification shall I ask for from my to be scribe then? In the past I have > always looked for graduates. > > On 6/26/18, Asudani, Rajesh wrote: >> Congrats! >> Retention of capacity to choose own scribe, though less in >> qualification than oneself, along with freedom to use devices, and >> meet the scribe two days in advance is a superb victory. >> >> At least folks now at least, stop using professional scribes. >> Accessible exams, if online or computerized, is the ultimate dream. >> >> >> सादर / With thanks & Regards >> राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani >> सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM >> बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU >> भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India नागपुर Nagpur >> >> 0712 2806846 >> >> President >> VIBEWA >> Co-Moderator >> VIB-India >> >> A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and >> laughter. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >> Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani >> Sent: 25 June 2018 16:18 >> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >> concerning the disabled.' >> Subject: [AI] Scribe guidelines >> >> Sorry folks for not reporting for 2 days. A lot of you have already >> heard what happened but let me explain a few issues >> >> 1. You all know that in 2013 we got new guidelines for the use of >> scribes. This was far and beyond what had been given by Courts and >> definitely more than what we had demanded at different times. >> >> 2. So far about one year there was not too much of a problem because >> no one really implemented the guidelines. >> >> 3. Then the penny dropped-U PS C and others started saying that >> these >> guidelines were unfair. >> >> 4. Some of our own VI candidates decided that these guidelines gave >> them the right to have overqualified or should I say coached writers. >> >> 5. Our other VI who suffered because of the special writers >> complained >> to U P S C and to the Courts-Bombay and Eranakulam I am told. >> >> 6. Then the Government set up our committee. We met about 3 times >> but >> could not agree so the MSJE set up a sub-committee. >> >> 7. This subcommittee gave a report which we had to discuss at this >> meeting on 20th June. >> >> 8. I had shared the sub-committee's report and the comments of U PS >> C >> and SSC. >> >> 9. Our meeting started an hour and half late because the Secretary >> had >> gone to meet the Minister. >> >> 10. Before she came in the other committee members gave theiropinion on >> the subcommittees report. Only Mr. Rungta and I were left to give our >> comments when the Secretary arrived and we started the formal meeting. >> >> 11. It was quite a hot debate. >> >> 12. The problem with govt agencies is that they don't send the same >> person >> to the followup meetings. This includes U P S C and our own NIVH. This >> hampers progressive discussion and we cannot pin the representative down. >> >> 13. There was no problem with compensatory time etc. The recommendations >> of the Sub-committee were accepted. >> >> 14. So what have we won or should I say retained-the first right of the >> candidate to choose his scribe. If not available then the Examining >> body can provide not less than a matriculate. >> >> 15. Further you can meet your scribe 2 days in advance. >> >> 16. Some other devices etc for other disabilities that can be used.Our >> committee added to Sub committee recommendations. This added to the >> original guidelines. >> >> 17. The only problem with the subcommittee's suggestion is that they >> are >> not allowing you to use your own laptop. I however feel that this >> should not be in the guidelines. I know atleast 2 members on this >> list who have used their own laptops and didn't have a problem after >> explanations. This may be considered to be a loss and squarely >> attributable to the subcommittee. >> >> 18. Now the loss that will bother us some day-the scribe has to be less >> in >> qualification than the candidate. >> >> 19. So this guideline has got nothing to do with the exam but only with >> the candidate. Keeping in mind that the minimum educational >> qualification for a scribe is matriculation. This does not sound too >> bad but ground realities will tell. >> >> 20. So the
Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines
Though i could not think of many such situation where a scenario presented will happen. I also agree to the point that qualification of a scribe, in an ideal scenario, should be a concern but can there be alternative such as qualification of scribe determined by the minimum qualifucation for the exam/post like if it is graduate that scribe should not be graduate even though person taking the exam is a PhD Just a thought Regards Amit Jain On Tue, 26 Jun 2018, 14:08 Kanchan Pamnani, wrote: > Very interesting analysis. Please explain in which exam this kind of > situation will occur. > Also is it not fair to allow a Post graduate only a 12th Standard scribe? > Is it not likely that the post graduate will know more than the scribe in > this case. > Is the scribe's qualification important in comparison to that of the > candidate? > This is only a debate and I do want to hear peoples views. > Kanchan > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On > Behalf Of Shweta Mishra > Sent: 26 June 2018 13:51 > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines > > hi friends! > it means, scribe criteria will be different for for candidates with > different qualification. > for example, a post graduate and a twelfth passed candidate is appearing > for the same competitive exam, then what will be scribe criteria for both > candidates? > if a post graduate candidate will bring graduate scribe, then won't it be > injustice to the twelfth passed candidate? because twelfth passed candidate > will be allowed to bring maximum eleventh passed scribe. > > On 6/26/18, Lyngdoh wrote: > > Can someone help me out with scribe for SBI PO 2018 exams... I mean > > what qualification shall I ask for from my to be scribe then? In the > > past I have always looked for graduates. > > > > On 6/26/18, Asudani, Rajesh wrote: > >> Congrats! > >> Retention of capacity to choose own scribe, though less in > >> qualification than oneself, along with freedom to use devices, and > >> meet the scribe two days in advance is a superb victory. > >> > >> At least folks now at least, stop using professional scribes. > >> Accessible exams, if online or computerized, is the ultimate dream. > >> > >> > >> सादर / With thanks & Regards > >> राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani > >> सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM > >> बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU > >> भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India नागपुर Nagpur > >> > >> 0712 2806846 > >> > >> President > >> VIBEWA > >> Co-Moderator > >> VIB-India > >> > >> A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and > >> laughter. > >> > >> -Original Message- > >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On > >> Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani > >> Sent: 25 June 2018 16:18 > >> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues > >> concerning the disabled.' > >> Subject: [AI] Scribe guidelines > >> > >> Sorry folks for not reporting for 2 days. A lot of you have already > >> heard what happened but let me explain a few issues > >> > >> 1. You all know that in 2013 we got new guidelines for the use of > >> scribes. This was far and beyond what had been given by Courts and > >> definitely more than what we had demanded at different times. > >> > >> 2. So far about one year there was not too much of a problem > because > >> no one really implemented the guidelines. > >> > >> 3. Then the penny dropped-U PS C and others started saying that > >> these > >> guidelines were unfair. > >> > >> 4. Some of our own VI candidates decided that these guidelines > gave > >> them the right to have overqualified or should I say coached writers. > >> > >> 5. Our other VI who suffered because of the special writers > >> complained > >> to U P S C and to the Courts-Bombay and Eranakulam I am told. > >> > >> 6. Then the Government set up our committee. We met about 3 times > >> but > >> could not agree so the MSJE set up a sub-committee. > >> > >> 7. This subcommittee gave a report which we had to discuss at this > >> meeting on 20th June. > >> > >> 8. I had shared the sub-committee's report and the comments of U > PS > >> C > >> and SSC. > >> > >> 9. Our meeting started an hour and half late because the Secretary > >> had > >> gone to meet the Minister. > >> > >> 10. Before she came in the other committee members gave theiropinion > on > >> the subcommittees report. Only Mr. Rungta and I were left to give our > >> comments when the Secretary arrived and we started the formal meeting. > >> > >> 11. It was quite a hot debate. > >> > >> 12. The problem with govt agencies is that they don't send the same > >> person > >> to the followup meetings. This includes U P S C and our own NIVH. > >> This hampers progressive discussion and we cannot pin the > representative down. > >> > >> 13. There was no problem with
Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines
Please continue current practises. When the guidelines change you will be informed. Status quo as of today. Kanchan -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Lyngdoh Sent: 26 June 2018 13:12 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines Can someone help me out with scribe for SBI PO 2018 exams... I mean what qualification shall I ask for from my to be scribe then? In the past I have always looked for graduates. On 6/26/18, Asudani, Rajesh wrote: > Congrats! > Retention of capacity to choose own scribe, though less in > qualification than oneself, along with freedom to use devices, and > meet the scribe two days in advance is a superb victory. > > At least folks now at least, stop using professional scribes. > Accessible exams, if online or computerized, is the ultimate dream. > > > सादर / With thanks & Regards > राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani > सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM > बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU > भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India नागपुर Nagpur > > 0712 2806846 > > President > VIBEWA > Co-Moderator > VIB-India > > A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and > laughter. > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On > Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani > Sent: 25 June 2018 16:18 > To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues > concerning the disabled.' > Subject: [AI] Scribe guidelines > > Sorry folks for not reporting for 2 days. A lot of you have already > heard what happened but let me explain a few issues > > 1. You all know that in 2013 we got new guidelines for the use of > scribes. This was far and beyond what had been given by Courts and > definitely more than what we had demanded at different times. > > 2. So far about one year there was not too much of a problem because > no one really implemented the guidelines. > > 3. Then the penny dropped-U PS C and others started saying that these > guidelines were unfair. > > 4. Some of our own VI candidates decided that these guidelines gave > them the right to have overqualified or should I say coached writers. > > 5. Our other VI who suffered because of the special writers > complained > to U P S C and to the Courts-Bombay and Eranakulam I am told. > > 6. Then the Government set up our committee. We met about 3 times but > could not agree so the MSJE set up a sub-committee. > > 7. This subcommittee gave a report which we had to discuss at this > meeting on 20th June. > > 8. I had shared the sub-committee's report and the comments of U PS C > and SSC. > > 9. Our meeting started an hour and half late because the Secretary > had > gone to meet the Minister. > > 10. Before she came in the other committee members gave theiropinion on > the subcommittees report. Only Mr. Rungta and I were left to give our > comments when the Secretary arrived and we started the formal meeting. > > 11. It was quite a hot debate. > > 12. The problem with govt agencies is that they don't send the same > person > to the followup meetings. This includes U P S C and our own NIVH. This > hampers progressive discussion and we cannot pin the representative down. > > 13. There was no problem with compensatory time etc. The recommendations > of the Sub-committee were accepted. > > 14. So what have we won or should I say retained-the first right of the > candidate to choose his scribe. If not available then the Examining > body can provide not less than a matriculate. > > 15. Further you can meet your scribe 2 days in advance. > > 16. Some other devices etc for other disabilities that can be used.Our > committee added to Sub committee recommendations. This added to the > original guidelines. > > 17. The only problem with the subcommittee's suggestion is that they are > not allowing you to use your own laptop. I however feel that this > should not be in the guidelines. I know atleast 2 members on this > list who have used their own laptops and didn't have a problem after > explanations. This may be considered to be a loss and squarely attributable > to the subcommittee. > > 18. Now the loss that will bother us some day-the scribe has to be less > in > qualification than the candidate. > > 19. So this guideline has got nothing to do with the exam but only with > the candidate. Keeping in mind that the minimum educational > qualification for a scribe is matriculation. This does not sound too > bad but ground realities will tell. > > 20. So the meeting ended about three and half hours later with 2 cups of > tea and 4 biscuits thrown in. The Secretary will have to report to the > courts. > > 21. The fact that we have the right to choose our own scribe is going to > be debated over and over again until we stop the malpractises and each > of you reading my
Re: [AI] Pls Connect me how to take railway concession
hey hi, you have to approach to divisional railway manager's office, commercial department, they will guide you how to apply for the concession id card thanks and regards syed On 26/06/2018, sibi mohamed wrote: > On Mon 25 Jun, 2018 11:49 am sibi mohamed, wrote: > >> Dears, >> Hoping all are doing well,after a gap I'm coming up wth my son's >> needy.Recently I took my son vision disability medical certificate it's >> having 70 %, by including hearing loss it's added as 90% disability,he's >> having Usher Syndrome. we have not yet applied for any concessions, >> please >> let me know the details, will be very favourable >> Thanking you >> With regards >> Siby.M >> > > > > Search for old postings at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ > > To unsubscribe send a message to > accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in > with the subject unsubscribe. > > To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please > visit the list home page at > http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in > > > Disclaimer: > 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the > person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; > > 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails > sent through this mailing list.. > Search for old postings at: http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ To unsubscribe send a message to accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in with the subject unsubscribe. To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, please visit the list home page at http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in Disclaimer: 1. Contents of the mails, factual, or otherwise, reflect the thinking of the person sending the mail and AI in no way relates itself to its veracity; 2. AI cannot be held liable for any commission/omission based on the mails sent through this mailing list..
Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines
Very interesting analysis. Please explain in which exam this kind of situation will occur. Also is it not fair to allow a Post graduate only a 12th Standard scribe? Is it not likely that the post graduate will know more than the scribe in this case. Is the scribe's qualification important in comparison to that of the candidate? This is only a debate and I do want to hear peoples views. Kanchan -Original Message- From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of Shweta Mishra Sent: 26 June 2018 13:51 To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the disabled. Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines hi friends! it means, scribe criteria will be different for for candidates with different qualification. for example, a post graduate and a twelfth passed candidate is appearing for the same competitive exam, then what will be scribe criteria for both candidates? if a post graduate candidate will bring graduate scribe, then won't it be injustice to the twelfth passed candidate? because twelfth passed candidate will be allowed to bring maximum eleventh passed scribe. On 6/26/18, Lyngdoh wrote: > Can someone help me out with scribe for SBI PO 2018 exams... I mean > what qualification shall I ask for from my to be scribe then? In the > past I have always looked for graduates. > > On 6/26/18, Asudani, Rajesh wrote: >> Congrats! >> Retention of capacity to choose own scribe, though less in >> qualification than oneself, along with freedom to use devices, and >> meet the scribe two days in advance is a superb victory. >> >> At least folks now at least, stop using professional scribes. >> Accessible exams, if online or computerized, is the ultimate dream. >> >> >> सादर / With thanks & Regards >> राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani >> सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM >> बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU >> भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India नागपुर Nagpur >> >> 0712 2806846 >> >> President >> VIBEWA >> Co-Moderator >> VIB-India >> >> A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and >> laughter. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >> Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani >> Sent: 25 June 2018 16:18 >> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >> concerning the disabled.' >> Subject: [AI] Scribe guidelines >> >> Sorry folks for not reporting for 2 days. A lot of you have already >> heard what happened but let me explain a few issues >> >> 1. You all know that in 2013 we got new guidelines for the use of >> scribes. This was far and beyond what had been given by Courts and >> definitely more than what we had demanded at different times. >> >> 2. So far about one year there was not too much of a problem because >> no one really implemented the guidelines. >> >> 3. Then the penny dropped-U PS C and others started saying that >> these >> guidelines were unfair. >> >> 4. Some of our own VI candidates decided that these guidelines gave >> them the right to have overqualified or should I say coached writers. >> >> 5. Our other VI who suffered because of the special writers >> complained >> to U P S C and to the Courts-Bombay and Eranakulam I am told. >> >> 6. Then the Government set up our committee. We met about 3 times >> but >> could not agree so the MSJE set up a sub-committee. >> >> 7. This subcommittee gave a report which we had to discuss at this >> meeting on 20th June. >> >> 8. I had shared the sub-committee's report and the comments of U PS >> C >> and SSC. >> >> 9. Our meeting started an hour and half late because the Secretary >> had >> gone to meet the Minister. >> >> 10. Before she came in the other committee members gave theiropinion on >> the subcommittees report. Only Mr. Rungta and I were left to give our >> comments when the Secretary arrived and we started the formal meeting. >> >> 11. It was quite a hot debate. >> >> 12. The problem with govt agencies is that they don't send the same >> person >> to the followup meetings. This includes U P S C and our own NIVH. >> This hampers progressive discussion and we cannot pin the representative >> down. >> >> 13. There was no problem with compensatory time etc. The recommendations >> of the Sub-committee were accepted. >> >> 14. So what have we won or should I say retained-the first right of the >> candidate to choose his scribe. If not available then the Examining >> body can provide not less than a matriculate. >> >> 15. Further you can meet your scribe 2 days in advance. >> >> 16. Some other devices etc for other disabilities that can be used.Our >> committee added to Sub committee recommendations. This added to the >> original guidelines. >> >> 17. The only problem with the subcommittee's suggestion is that they >> are >> not allowing you to use your own laptop. I however feel that this >> should not be in the guidelines.
Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines
hi friends! it means, scribe criteria will be different for for candidates with different qualification. for example, a post graduate and a twelfth passed candidate is appearing for the same competitive exam, then what will be scribe criteria for both candidates? if a post graduate candidate will bring graduate scribe, then won't it be injustice to the twelfth passed candidate? because twelfth passed candidate will be allowed to bring maximum eleventh passed scribe. On 6/26/18, Lyngdoh wrote: > Can someone help me out with scribe for SBI PO 2018 exams... I mean > what qualification shall I ask for from my to be scribe then? In the > past I have always looked for graduates. > > On 6/26/18, Asudani, Rajesh wrote: >> Congrats! >> Retention of capacity to choose own scribe, though less in qualification >> than oneself, along with freedom to use devices, and meet the scribe two >> days in advance is a superb victory. >> >> At least folks now at least, stop using professional scribes. >> Accessible exams, if online or computerized, is the ultimate dream. >> >> >> सादर / With thanks & Regards >> राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani >> सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM >> बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU >> भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India >> नागपुर Nagpur >> >> 0712 2806846 >> >> President >> VIBEWA >> Co-Moderator >> VIB-India >> >> A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and >> laughter. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >> Behalf >> Of Kanchan Pamnani >> Sent: 25 June 2018 16:18 >> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >> concerning >> the disabled.' >> Subject: [AI] Scribe guidelines >> >> Sorry folks for not reporting for 2 days. A lot of you have already heard >> what happened but let me explain a few issues >> >> 1. You all know that in 2013 we got new guidelines for the use of >> scribes. This was far and beyond what had been given by Courts and >> definitely more than what we had demanded at different times. >> >> 2. So far about one year there was not too much of a problem because >> no one really implemented the guidelines. >> >> 3. Then the penny dropped-U PS C and others started saying that >> these >> guidelines were unfair. >> >> 4. Some of our own VI candidates decided that these guidelines gave >> them the right to have overqualified or should I say coached writers. >> >> 5. Our other VI who suffered because of the special writers >> complained >> to U P S C and to the Courts-Bombay and Eranakulam I am told. >> >> 6. Then the Government set up our committee. We met about 3 times >> but >> could not agree so the MSJE set up a sub-committee. >> >> 7. This subcommittee gave a report which we had to discuss at this >> meeting on 20th June. >> >> 8. I had shared the sub-committee's report and the comments of U PS >> C >> and SSC. >> >> 9. Our meeting started an hour and half late because the Secretary >> had >> gone to meet the Minister. >> >> 10. Before she came in the other committee members gave theiropinion on >> the subcommittees report. Only Mr. Rungta and I were left to give our >> comments when the Secretary arrived and we started the formal meeting. >> >> 11. It was quite a hot debate. >> >> 12. The problem with govt agencies is that they don't send the same >> person >> to the followup meetings. This includes U P S C and our own NIVH. This >> hampers progressive discussion and we cannot pin the representative down. >> >> 13. There was no problem with compensatory time etc. The recommendations >> of the Sub-committee were accepted. >> >> 14. So what have we won or should I say retained-the first right of the >> candidate to choose his scribe. If not available then the Examining body >> can >> provide not less than a matriculate. >> >> 15. Further you can meet your scribe 2 days in advance. >> >> 16. Some other devices etc for other disabilities that can be used.Our >> committee added to Sub committee recommendations. This added to the >> original >> guidelines. >> >> 17. The only problem with the subcommittee's suggestion is that they >> are >> not allowing you to use your own laptop. I however feel that this should >> not >> be in the guidelines. I know atleast 2 members on this list who have used >> their own laptops and didn't have a problem after explanations. This may >> be >> considered to be a loss and squarely attributable to the subcommittee. >> >> 18. Now the loss that will bother us some day-the scribe has to be less >> in >> qualification than the candidate. >> >> 19. So this guideline has got nothing to do with the exam but only with >> the candidate. Keeping in mind that the minimum educational qualification >> for a scribe is matriculation. This does not sound too bad but ground >> realities will tell. >> >> 20. So the meeting ended about three and half hours later with 2 cups of >> tea and 4
Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines
Can someone help me out with scribe for SBI PO 2018 exams... I mean what qualification shall I ask for from my to be scribe then? In the past I have always looked for graduates. On 6/26/18, Asudani, Rajesh wrote: > Congrats! > Retention of capacity to choose own scribe, though less in qualification > than oneself, along with freedom to use devices, and meet the scribe two > days in advance is a superb victory. > > At least folks now at least, stop using professional scribes. > Accessible exams, if online or computerized, is the ultimate dream. > > > सादर / With thanks & Regards > राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani > सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM > बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU > भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India > नागपुर Nagpur > > 0712 2806846 > > President > VIBEWA > Co-Moderator > VIB-India > > A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and > laughter. > > -Original Message- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of Kanchan Pamnani > Sent: 25 June 2018 16:18 > To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled.' > Subject: [AI] Scribe guidelines > > Sorry folks for not reporting for 2 days. A lot of you have already heard > what happened but let me explain a few issues > > 1. You all know that in 2013 we got new guidelines for the use of > scribes. This was far and beyond what had been given by Courts and > definitely more than what we had demanded at different times. > > 2. So far about one year there was not too much of a problem because > no one really implemented the guidelines. > > 3. Then the penny dropped-U PS C and others started saying that these > guidelines were unfair. > > 4. Some of our own VI candidates decided that these guidelines gave > them the right to have overqualified or should I say coached writers. > > 5. Our other VI who suffered because of the special writers > complained > to U P S C and to the Courts-Bombay and Eranakulam I am told. > > 6. Then the Government set up our committee. We met about 3 times but > could not agree so the MSJE set up a sub-committee. > > 7. This subcommittee gave a report which we had to discuss at this > meeting on 20th June. > > 8. I had shared the sub-committee's report and the comments of U PS C > and SSC. > > 9. Our meeting started an hour and half late because the Secretary > had > gone to meet the Minister. > > 10. Before she came in the other committee members gave theiropinion on > the subcommittees report. Only Mr. Rungta and I were left to give our > comments when the Secretary arrived and we started the formal meeting. > > 11. It was quite a hot debate. > > 12. The problem with govt agencies is that they don't send the same > person > to the followup meetings. This includes U P S C and our own NIVH. This > hampers progressive discussion and we cannot pin the representative down. > > 13. There was no problem with compensatory time etc. The recommendations > of the Sub-committee were accepted. > > 14. So what have we won or should I say retained-the first right of the > candidate to choose his scribe. If not available then the Examining body can > provide not less than a matriculate. > > 15. Further you can meet your scribe 2 days in advance. > > 16. Some other devices etc for other disabilities that can be used.Our > committee added to Sub committee recommendations. This added to the original > guidelines. > > 17. The only problem with the subcommittee's suggestion is that they are > not allowing you to use your own laptop. I however feel that this should not > be in the guidelines. I know atleast 2 members on this list who have used > their own laptops and didn't have a problem after explanations. This may be > considered to be a loss and squarely attributable to the subcommittee. > > 18. Now the loss that will bother us some day-the scribe has to be less > in > qualification than the candidate. > > 19. So this guideline has got nothing to do with the exam but only with > the candidate. Keeping in mind that the minimum educational qualification > for a scribe is matriculation. This does not sound too bad but ground > realities will tell. > > 20. So the meeting ended about three and half hours later with 2 cups of > tea and 4 biscuits thrown in. The Secretary will have to report to the > courts. > > 21. The fact that we have the right to choose our own scribe is going to > be debated over and over again until we stop the malpractises and each of > you reading my email or whatsapp need to take care of the situation. You > are > responsible for what lies ahead. I know the argument about supervision. > > 22. It is not an easy task to take the whole room on by just 2 people. We > did it because you gave us strength. We were prepared and many weren't. > However it has taken lots of persuasion, anger, raised voices and a lot of > diplomacy. > > 23. What will let us
