RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$

2006-11-13 Thread Bahta, Nathaniel V CTR USAF NASIC/SCNA
You have to be able to laugh at yourself. M$ is a tounge in cheek _expression_ and certainly a corporation like Microsoft can laugh at itself when M$ is used as slang in its reference. Thats why wenickname really big guys tiny. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$

2006-11-13 Thread Laura A. Robinson
Clearly there are differing opinions about whether it's merely "slang" or whether it's an inappropriate slur. Simpler just not to use it, don't you think? I mean, I don't refer to the USAF as the "useless air farce" and expect its members to think that's funny. I don't take offense when

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$

2006-11-13 Thread Robert Rutherford
Can we kill this thread now, please? Rob Robert Rutherford QuoStar Solutions Limited T: +44 (0) 8456 440 331 F: +44 (0) 8456 440 332 M: +44 (0) 7974 249 494 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.quostar.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: [ActiveDir] OT: M$

2006-11-13 Thread Jitendra Kalyankar
First thing my reference to Microsoft as M$, never thought it would offend someone. I have many friends in Microsoft and even during our personal e-mails I do reference Microsoft as M$ and none ever complained to me and I forwarded Laura's e-mail to them but then again everyone is not the

Re: [ActiveDir] OT: M$

2006-11-13 Thread Bart Van den Wyngaert
I agree about the origin but I think that the usage/meaning of M$ has changed the last years. I think that is evolution or something. Today I see people using it all around, even those that only work on Microsoft platforms for many years. I also agree on the relativation approach. A lot of people

[ActiveDir] Matt Duguid/DIA is out of the office.

2006-11-13 Thread Matt . Duguid
I will be out of the office starting 13/11/2006 and will not return until 17/11/2006. Hi there, I am away from the office this week on training and will be back on Monday 20/05/2006. In my absence please contact either Sean White/Michael Chen or the Helpdesk on x8081. Thanks, Matt D List

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$

2006-11-13 Thread Laura A. Robinson
There's a reason for the "OT" portion of the subject line, you know. ;-) Laura From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert RutherfordSent: Monday, November 13, 2006 6:42 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$

2006-11-13 Thread Robert Rutherford
;oP Rob Robert Rutherford QuoStar Solutions Limited T: +44 (0) 8456 440 331 F: +44 (0) 8456 440 332 M: +44 (0) 7974 249 494 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W: www.quostar.com From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Laura A. Robinson Sent: 13

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$

2006-11-13 Thread Bahta, Nathaniel V CTR USAF NASIC/SCNA
Useless Air Farce would not be found funny because its just that, not funny. Funnier is US Chair Force. Thats funny, and people here laugh at it all the time. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert RutherfordSent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:32 AMTo:

Re: [ActiveDir] OT: M$

2006-11-13 Thread Bart Van den Wyngaert
Humz... This is going into a direction like who will define what's funny or what isn't? Nobody can, it's personal! And there are a lot of examples concerning the subject humour, remind for example the issue of a comic published in Denmark this year? On 11/13/06, Bahta, Nathaniel V CTR USAF

[ActiveDir] how to access blocked site.

2006-11-13 Thread Ajay Kumar
Hi all, It could be wrong question but I want to know about how toacess the restricted or blocked site, which is access denied from office. I know some tools work like K-PROXY, but it woks on some internet site. So please suggest me how to access blocked site. which can work well. Thanks

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$

2006-11-13 Thread Laura A. Robinson
Exactly. M$ just isn't funny. Borg, kool-aid, those are funny. M$ isn't. Go figure. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bahta, Nathaniel V CTR USAF NASIC/SCNASent: Monday, November 13, 2006 7:46 AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE:

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$

2006-11-13 Thread Bahta, Nathaniel V CTR USAF NASIC/SCNA
Exactly, is exactly right. You cant impose your own humor preferences on someone because you consider it unfunny. You just dont laugh. You can't stop bad jokes, because someone, somewhere is laughing at them. Just not you. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

RE: [ActiveDir] how to access blocked site.

2006-11-13 Thread Robert Rutherford
Hi Ajay, This isnt the right forum for such a request, I suggest you go onto google and type proxy avoidance Cheers, Rob Robert Rutherford QuoStar Solutions Limited T: +44 (0) 8456 440 331 F: +44 (0) 8456 440 332 M: +44 (0) 7974 249 494 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W:

[ActiveDir]AD SECURITY.Run As command used - to impersonate Administrators

2006-11-13 Thread Ramon Linan
Hi, So I decided to try out GFI event monitor, I am loving it so far, but I am not a security expert so I am easy to impress. Anyway, I got a bunch of emails like the one below. Have you guys seen something similar in your logs? Is this someone trying to hack ora service trying to run

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$

2006-11-13 Thread Rich Milburn
It's my music drive. What I'm trying to figure out is how did everyone know about it? :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grillenmeier, Guido Sent: Friday, November 10, 2006 1:36 PM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir]

Re: [ActiveDir] how to access blocked site.

2006-11-13 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
As an admin here You do know I could fire your assets if you do this at my office? You are introducing risks that as an employee, you don't have the right to do at a firm. There's a reason us annoying admins block this stuff. Introduce risks at home please, and not on my watch, okay?

RE: [ActiveDir]AD SECURITY.Run As command used - to impersonate Administrators

2006-11-13 Thread Robert Rutherford
Could be a backup system or something like that kicking off a run as looks like it. I dont know the product though. Rob Robert Rutherford QuoStar Solutions Limited T: +44 (0) 8456 440 331 F: +44 (0) 8456 440 332 M: +44 (0) 7974 249 494 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W:

[ActiveDir] Password Police Question on Forest-ChildDomain relationship

2006-11-13 Thread Rocky Habeeb
Dear List readers, I have a Forest (W2K3 FFL) with an empty root domain and a single child domain (W2K3 FFL). Today I changed the password on all my servers in the child domain including the domain controllers. I meant to exclude them but did not. Now they have the same password as my

RE: [ActiveDir] how to access blocked site.

2006-11-13 Thread Ramon Linan
LOL, Susan does he really work in your office? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 9:50 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] how to access

RE: [ActiveDir] Password Police Question on Forest-ChildDomain relationship

2006-11-13 Thread Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
What passwords are you talking about? For which accounts? It will not let you change the password as the policy mentions: at least 1 day old Password policies are not defined in the default domain controllers policy, but in the default domain policy Cheers, jorge From:

Re: [ActiveDir] how to access blocked site.

2006-11-13 Thread Mark Parris
You could go home? There must be a reason why it is blocked - usually put up with it - or if it's an error get the admin to unblock it - errors often occur around places - such and sussex, middlesex or phrases that are badly punctuated. I will not give any such example here though as I am

RE: [ActiveDir] Password Police Question on Forest-ChildDomain relationship

2006-11-13 Thread Rocky Habeeb
Thanks Jorge, I just figured that out by virtue of the fact that nothing was defined in the Default Domain Controllers Policy. Can you answer these questions please? [1] Why does the Default Domain Controllers Security Policy have a password section? [2] What happens if you change a

Re: [ActiveDir] how to access blocked site.

2006-11-13 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
He's on the Internet isn't he? If he infects/nails his firm, his firm in turn could be a bot that attacks us all, right? We're truly all on the same 'party line' here. We all share the Internet, so yeah... we all have the responsibility of doing what we can to keep the bad guys from turning

RE: [ActiveDir] how to access blocked site.

2006-11-13 Thread Dave Wade
I'm with Sue on this one. Attempting to By-Pass the proxy is attempting to subvert the security systems. In out Policy this is a dismissible offence, regardless of having accessed any restricted sites. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan

RE: [ActiveDir] how to access blocked site.

2006-11-13 Thread Darren Mar-Elia
Hmm. That's a dubious stretch. Does that mean all those folks in China that find ways to bypass their government-controlled proxy are endangering us all and should be stopped? There may be lots of legitimate reasons why someone needs to do this. I don't think it should be assumed that suddenly we

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$

2006-11-13 Thread Adrian Teodorescu
People are boring talking about the exchange problems and start educate each other :) Keep going Let's start again: M$ its funny or injurious ? Anyone else ? A bored list reader -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Milburn Sent:

[ActiveDir] Timeout period on object moves?

2006-11-13 Thread Darren Mar-Elia
All- I'm trying to track down some interesting behavior in GP processing. I am wondering how AD deals with object moves. Specifically, I am moving a computer object around between OUs and it appears that the computer itself is not picking up every move during GP processing as I would

RE: [ActiveDir] how to access blocked site.

2006-11-13 Thread Steve Comeau
Oh, I keep forgetting that those places are not just in New Jersey Steve Comeau IT Manager Rutgers Athletics 83 Rockefeller Road Piscataway, NJ 08854 732-445-7802 732-445-4623 (fax) www.scarletknights.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

RE: [ActiveDir] how to access blocked site.

2006-11-13 Thread beads
No more dubious than the person who asked how to get around his/her companies firewall proxy in the first place. As admins we can only block what we first are told from management then of course those areas that fall under our base of knowledge (security, et. al.). Hopefully with some sort

[ActiveDir] OT: new ms-Sysinternals utils: .exe size gone up like crazy!

2006-11-13 Thread Javier Jarava
Hi! Just a quick question to the list, to see what the honrable members (tm) think. I have just d/l some of the the updated sysinternals tools from MS (filemon, regmon, autoruns and pstools to be precise), and I have noticed that most if not all the utils have grown in size A LOT. As an

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$

2006-11-13 Thread Brian Cline
M$ its funny or injurious ? Neither. Just unfunny and beaten to death. But I did laugh out loud at US Chair Force when I went through this thread earlier. That's pretty funny. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adrian Teodorescu Sent:

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: new ms-Sysinternals utils: .exe size gone up like crazy!

2006-11-13 Thread Brian Desmond
I think MS may have signed them all. Dunno if that increases size. Thanks, Brian Desmond [EMAIL PROTECTED] c - 312.731.3132 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Javier Jarava Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 12:47 PM To:

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$

2006-11-13 Thread Steve Egan \(Temp\)
When I was working for Uncle Sam's Flying Air Circus, *that's* what I called it - even though I was working in a hole in the ground at Minot AFB, ND. Anybody above the rank of E-5 didn't appreciate the name, but that's how it was referred to amongst the troops... Three years ago, when I was

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: new ms-Sysinternals utils: .exe size gone up like crazy!

2006-11-13 Thread Steve Egan \(Temp\)
Back in my days of programming in C, if we used the C-Worthy Interface Library (CWIL), a simple three-line program would be a MINIMUM of 170K. Maybe it's because a GUI is now included, or somesuch?? Steve Egan Purcell Systems System/Network Administrator desk 509 755-0341 x110 cell 509 475-7682

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$

2006-11-13 Thread Bob Anderson
Steve, I am with you there. Back in the service I served on the USS Forrestal which referred to as either the USS Zippo or USS ForestFire due to ships track record with fires on board. I was something that we did and never worried about it was a fact of life. Bob IT Guy

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$

2006-11-13 Thread Ben Schorr
I know a lot of Softies and my take on it is that none of the Softies I know would get mad about it, none of them especially like it either. Sort of like if somebody you didn't know called you Stevie (unless you like that I guess). It seems a little childish but it mostly demeans the person

RE: [ActiveDir] Help with Replication Mess

2006-11-13 Thread Noah Eiger
Thanks to all for the tips. All the demotions and promotions seem to have worked. AD replication is a bit like the weather in Wyoming: if you dont like it, wait 15 minutes. Sure enough after a while, things cleared up. I simply deleted the phantoms in the GUI and they have stayed away.

RE: [ActiveDir] Timeout period on object moves?

2006-11-13 Thread Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
Can you explain the steps you've taken? Met vriendelijke groeten / Kind regards, Ing. Jorge de Almeida Pinto Senior Infrastructure Consultant MVP Windows Server - Directory Services LogicaCMG Nederland B.V. (BU RTINC Eindhoven) ( Tel : +31-(0)40-29.57.777 ( Mobile :

Re: [ActiveDir] how to access blocked site.

2006-11-13 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
He didn't ask from behind the Government controlled firewall in China he said from an Office. :-) I'm assuming there's a reasonable tinfoily admin there. And you know.. you can always ask if you want a site unblocked that you think has a reasonable 'business' need? Most of the time we're

RE: [ActiveDir] [OT] how to access blocked site.

2006-11-13 Thread joe
I have to agree with Darren. I am not too worried what this person can do to me... However from the standpoint of the user and his company he is trying to assume risk that he doesn't have authority to assume (or else he wouldn't have to post...). Its not wrong to ask, but certainly it would be

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: new ms-Sysinternals utils: .exe size gone up like crazy!

2006-11-13 Thread Brett Shirley
We had to compile in bbisw.lib (Big Brother Is Watching). You might think that's against your rights, but you signged them away when you accepted the 5k larger eula.txt below (which you didn't read). Cheers, BrettSh [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I've decided its funny when I use it. Just b/c I know this

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: new ms-Sysinternals utils: .exe size gone up like crazy!

2006-11-13 Thread Free, Bob
I would think in part it has to be the new GUI EULA that pops up and the code they use to update the registry of acceptance of said EULA. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Javier Jarava Sent: Mon 11/13/2006 9:46 AM To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject:

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: new ms-Sysinternals utils: .exe size gone up like crazy!

2006-11-13 Thread joe
Could be various things of which most would probably be a little difficult to ascertain. Compiler versions can certainly cause deltas, as well as individual switches in a compiler. For instance, if I use Borland Builder 6.0 to compile something and then use Borland Developer Studio (Basiclaly

RE: [ActiveDir] Timeout period on object moves?

2006-11-13 Thread Darren Mar-Elia
I moved a computer account from OU A to OU B, then fired up gpupdate on that computer. Sure enough, it found the new OU and calculated GP accordingly. Then I moved it back to OU A. On this final move, after issuing both a gpupdate and gpupdate /force, the workstation failed to find its new OU. I

RE: [ActiveDir] [OT] how to access blocked site.

2006-11-13 Thread Kennedy, Jim
We don't know that. He could be an admin that is trying to figure out how his users are getting past his blocking system. There did seem to be a language issue in his original post. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ActiveDir- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe

Re: [ActiveDir] OT: new ms-Sysinternals utils: .exe size gone up like crazy!

2006-11-13 Thread Al Mulnick
You're right. It is funnier when you use it. On 11/13/06, Brett Shirley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:We had to compile in bbisw.lib (Big Brother Is Watching).You might think that's against your rights, but you signged them away when you acceptedthe 5k larger eula.txt below (which you didn't

RE: [ActiveDir] how to access blocked site.

2006-11-13 Thread Darren Mar-Elia
Hey, it *could* be an office in China :) In any case, I think you're fighting a losing battle protecting yourself by attempting to control or expecting good behavior from others-- others being defined as people who don't work for/with you. They will always find the information or the means

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: new ms-Sysinternals utils: .exe size gone up like crazy!

2006-11-13 Thread Marcus.Oh
Better question ... is there an accept switch to use? If you try a tool in a loop against a set of servers, it prompts for every one of them... :m:dsm:cci:mvp | marcusoh.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brett Shirley Sent:

RE: [ActiveDir] Timeout period on object moves?

2006-11-13 Thread joe
Hey Darren, I have looked at some of the source for GPO processing and while I don't recall any client side caching, I wouldn't be surprised to hear it had it. Certainly there is nothing on the AD side that I have seen that could ever make me think a specially formed query for GPOs was responded

RE: [ActiveDir] [OT] how to access blocked site.

2006-11-13 Thread joe
Definitely a possibility I considered when I saw the post though I would have expected different phrasing like My *%^#% users are getting past my proxy rules, how are they doing it ;o) -- O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition - http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm -Original

Re: [ActiveDir] OT: new ms-Sysinternals utils: .exe size gone up like crazy!

2006-11-13 Thread Tomasz Onyszko
Brett Shirley wrote: Just b/c I know this kind of thing can go rabbidly out of control, _YES, I WAS KIDDING._ You're kidding :) -- Tomasz Onyszko http://www.w2k.pl/ - (PL) http://blogs.dirteam.com/blogs/tomek/ - (EN) List info : http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx List FAQ:

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: new ms-Sysinternals utils: .exe size gone up like crazy!

2006-11-13 Thread Darren Mar-Elia
Which tool and what is the prompt? One thing I've done in the past, when asked for 'y' or 'n', is simply do this: Command | echo y -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 2:04 PM To:

Re: [ActiveDir] [OT] how to access blocked site.

2006-11-13 Thread Mark Parris
Contradicting my earlier post - One of the most interesting ways I have seen to access websites is via google and it's cache - its amazing what is holds and all on a google URL! Regards, Mark Parris Base IT Ltd Active Directory Consultancy Tel +44(0)7801 690596 -Original Message-

Re: [ActiveDir] [OT] how to access blocked site.

2006-11-13 Thread Mark Parris
Contradicting my earlier post - One of the most interesting ways I have seen to access websites is via google and it's cache - its amazing what is holds and all on a google URL! Regards, Mark Parris Base IT Ltd Active Directory Consultancy Tel +44(0)7801 690596 -Original Message-

RE: [ActiveDir] Timeout period on object moves?

2006-11-13 Thread Darren Mar-Elia
Thanks Joe. I suspect you're right, though I'm not sure where/why it would be cached. I did fire up Insight for AD and didn't specifically see the query I would have expected, so I guess it is being cached--strange part is that it seemed to pick up the change right away the first time I moved the

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$

2006-11-13 Thread Laura A. Robinson
Disclaimer #1: "You" in the below refers to a generic "you", not a specific person. Disclaimer #2: My opinions are in no way intended to represent those of my employer. They're my own, and they were my opinions long before I became a Microsoft employee. That said... You know what I find

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: new ms-Sysinternals utils: .exe size gone up like crazy!

2006-11-13 Thread Brett Shirley
I started a mail thread on this internally, and BOY was I wrong, apparently bbisw.lib is only like 3k, so couldn't possibly explain the bloat! They pretty much know what bloated the binaries, and said they'll blog something about it in the next few days or so on the sysinternals blog ... though

Re: [ActiveDir] OT: M$

2006-11-13 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
(I would just like to go on record as saying that I thought Brett's post was funny) In the MVP survey this year the final question was give three words that best describe Microsoft? Boy howdy was that the hardest part of the survey to fill out. Three words to describe the company? Youch.

RE: [ActiveDir] OT: M$

2006-11-13 Thread Akomolafe, Deji
You know what I find amazing here? That you felt compelled to lend more visibility to this topic, when it, truly, does not deserve an iota of your time. I see people use "M$" in conversations, I note their names and learn to avoid them. It's the same thing I do with people who use "1337" and

[ActiveDir] Help with topology

2006-11-13 Thread Drew Burchett
I have a client that Im having trouble setting up Active Directory topology for. The layout: 1 Central office with two domain controllers, 1 Global Catalog, T1 connection 5 Branch offices with 1 domain controller and DSL or Cable connections. 1 Branch office with 1 domain controller

[ActiveDir] Restrict VPN Access By Computer Name

2006-11-13 Thread Dan DeStefano
I was wondering if there is a way to restrict client VPN connections via computer name. The reason for this is that we only want clients connecting from approved devices for which they do not have administrative privileges. In other words, we do not want people VPNing into our network from

RE: [ActiveDir] Restrict VPN Access By Computer Name

2006-11-13 Thread Akomolafe, Deji
Call-Station-Identifier is a much more stable and reliable filter - it is the Client's MAC address. "Client Friendly Name" is optional and may not be sent in many VPN negotiation. The identifier will very likely be sent (I don't want to say ALWAYS since I don't have any relevant doc that say

Re: [ActiveDir] Restrict VPN Access By Computer Name

2006-11-13 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
(Say SBS and it's like waving a red flag in front of me) For SBS networks we don't use VPN, in fact the only time I use VPN is for patching, otherwise we use RWW (Remote Web Workplace) which does not introduce the risks that VPN does. RWW is a web based remote access and can typically be more