Re: [AFMUG] VHLP3-11W sources

2020-09-11 Thread Steve Jones
How far from austin? On Sat, Sep 12, 2020, 12:02 AM Trey Scarborough wrote: > I have a bunch of VHLP-3 Ceragon mount same antenna so if you have the > aviat mount they will work. Shipping may be a bit to get them from texas, > but I can let them go at a good price. > On 9/11/2020 4:38 PM, Steve

Re: [AFMUG] VHLP3-11W sources

2020-09-11 Thread Trey Scarborough
I have a bunch of VHLP-3 Ceragon mount same antenna so if you have the aviat mount they will work. Shipping may be a bit to get them from texas, but I can let them go at a good price. On 9/11/2020 4:38 PM, Steve Jones wrote: Aviat is out of these antennas right now. looking to source 1-3 of

Re: [AFMUG] AUP

2020-09-11 Thread Chuck McCown
Tnx Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 11, 2020, at 6:51 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > I don't think we've changed ours in 20 years, they were written for dialup. > http://www.kwisp.com/tos.html > > Get your lawyers involved and you can expand it to 10 pages, and then you > need your FCC disclosures.

Re: [AFMUG] LTE vendors

2020-09-11 Thread Sean Heskett
Yup what josh said lol. We tried the LTE thing and glad we switch to 450m...much easier. -Sean On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 4:43 PM Josh Luthman wrote: > Having done one LTE vendor and 450m the only mistake I made was not buying > the 450m sooner. > > > Josh Luthman > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340

Re: [AFMUG] LTE vendors

2020-09-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
MoFi On Fri, Sep 11, 2020, 1:39 PM David Coudron wrote: > We are looking at a new area to expand out network that has a lot more > tree cover than our current footprint. We are thinking with the > combination of CBRS and LTE, that we might be able to offer better coverage > than with

Re: [AFMUG] AUP

2020-09-11 Thread Ken Hohhof
I don't think we've changed ours in 20 years, they were written for dialup. http://www.kwisp.com/tos.html Get your lawyers involved and you can expand it to 10 pages, and then you need your FCC disclosures. Maybe take a look at what some of the big boys with lawyers have on their websites.

Re: [AFMUG] Yunlink router?

2020-09-11 Thread Robert Andrews
Yeah, and I was dumbfounded, he was talking stuff like "what's the iperf numbers for your network" I was thinking he had a clue, but somewhere he fell into the IFM trap... When he said there wasn't an ethernet anywhere, I think my jaw actually dropped because he gave me a look. On

Re: [AFMUG] AUP

2020-09-11 Thread Robert Andrews
I like the "Reserve right to disconnect because of AHF" AssHatFactor On 09/11/2020 05:24 PM, Steve Jones wrote: just put "fuck around and find out" people have short attention spans, thats nice and simple On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 6:41 PM Chuck McCown > wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] AUP

2020-09-11 Thread Steve Jones
just put "fuck around and find out" people have short attention spans, thats nice and simple On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 6:41 PM Chuck McCown wrote: > Anyone have an AUP they are willing to share? > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com >

Re: [AFMUG] Yunlink router?

2020-09-11 Thread Ken Hohhof
Unbelievable. As I was reading your email I was waiting for the part where he prewired the house with Cat6 or fiber to every room with wall outlet or ceiling WiFi6 APs in every room. Oops. I'm not a big fan of powerline networking as a primary solution. To fill a deadspot, sure.

Re: [AFMUG] Yunlink router?

2020-09-11 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 9/11/20 3:26 PM, Robert Andrews wrote: We had a customer the other day have us come out to look at his new house for a future install.   The whole house is e-glass and concrete. Interior as well as exterior walls.   New concrete is wet.  Between the concrete and the eglass he had built a

[AFMUG] AUP

2020-09-11 Thread Chuck McCown
Anyone have an AUP they are willing to share? Sent from my iPhone -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] LTE vendors

2020-09-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Having done one LTE vendor and 450m the only mistake I made was not buying the 450m sooner. Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 5:54 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > And yeah, 450m might be expensive, but so is

Re: [AFMUG] Yunlink router?

2020-09-11 Thread Robert Andrews
We had a customer the other day have us come out to look at his new house for a future install. The whole house is e-glass and concrete. Interior as well as exterior walls. New concrete is wet. Between the concrete and the eglass he had built a wifi proof blockhouse. I showed him how

Re: [AFMUG] LTE vendors

2020-09-11 Thread Adam Moffett
And yeah, 450m might be expensive, but so is all the LTE stuff. You'll max out the legal EIRP with 450m, and get 8x8 MIMO.  I think part of the magic with LTE is that it will connect with ridiculously low signal, but on a fixed system you probably won't really want the trashy signals anyway.

[AFMUG] VHLP3-11W sources

2020-09-11 Thread Steve Jones
Aviat is out of these antennas right now. looking to source 1-3 of these, but need to keep the price down on them, so a warehouse in IL or Eastern Iowa i or my contractor could maybe drive to pick them up from. They have the conversion kits in inventory, but antennas wont be in til later this

Re: [AFMUG] Circle parental control device

2020-09-11 Thread Ryan Ray
I don't have one personally so I can't speak definitively but our support articles say to plug in the circle with an ethernet cable. If it has a good wifi connection though I don't see what the difference is. We'd definitely prefer it to be connected with an ethernet cable. On Fri, Sep 11,

Re: [AFMUG] LTE vendors

2020-09-11 Thread Sean Heskett
If you are planning on going through foliage then you want to pick the product with the highest clean Tx power so you can achieve the max EIRP. On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 1:39 PM David Coudron wrote: > We are looking at a new area to expand out network that has a lot more > tree cover than our

Re: [AFMUG] LTE vendors

2020-09-11 Thread Darin Steffl
I have seen lots to people doing 450M in CBRS stating coverage is nearly the same as LTE but way better speeds and triple the aggregate capacity due to mu-mimo. Way fewer issues too since there is no EPC. Just straight layer 2 with no bullshit. On Fri, Sep 11, 2020, 2:39 PM David Coudron wrote:

[AFMUG] LTE vendors

2020-09-11 Thread David Coudron
We are looking at a new area to expand out network that has a lot more tree cover than our current footprint. We are thinking with the combination of CBRS and LTE, that we might be able to offer better coverage than with traditional fixed wireless options. We have started conversations with

Re: [AFMUG] Yunlink router?

2020-09-11 Thread Ken Hohhof
When we deploy premise routers with SFP ports, customers could care less. Only one has ever been used, and that’s at a business customer where we used a direct attach cable to a POE switch for their VoIP phones. All customers want any more is WiFi. Nobody wants Ethernet. Or fiber. What

Re: [AFMUG] Yunlink router?

2020-09-11 Thread Carl Peterson
With an SFP port?! On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 1:27 PM Bill Prince wrote: > Theese seems to bee thee one: > > https://yuncore.en.alibaba.com/ > > bp > > > On 9/11/2020 11:14 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > MAC address. So yes, could be OEM. But I asked the tech who did the > install about a week ago

Re: [AFMUG] Yunlink router?

2020-09-11 Thread Bill Prince
Theese seems to bee thee one: https://yuncore.en.alibaba.com/ bp On 9/11/2020 11:14 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: MAC address.  So yes, could be OEM.  But I asked the tech who did

Re: [AFMUG] Yunlink router?

2020-09-11 Thread Ken Hohhof
MAC address. So yes, could be OEM. But I asked the tech who did the install about a week ago and he said the router name was either Yunlink or something similar. He said that he's seen one more recently. From: AF On Behalf Of Nate Burke Sent: Friday, September 11, 2020 1:05 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] TV White Space

2020-09-11 Thread SmarterBroadband
We use the Dual Pol Yagis on APs to get a narrower beam. Not 10 degrees but better than a 60 or 90 sector and smaller. Also better gain to suck in a signal. Adam From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of David Coudron Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2020 9:20 AM To:

Re: [AFMUG] Yunlink router?

2020-09-11 Thread Adam Moffett
Maybe a flea market in Timbuktu. Holy crap though: Yunlink IP7620N router is $6.50 on Alibaba. Minimum order is 1000 units.   Maybe I should look into that lol Or maybe some other brand uses Yunlink as an OEM? On 9/11/2020 1:54 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Anybody else encountered a Yunlink

Re: [AFMUG] Yunlink router?

2020-09-11 Thread Nate Burke
Is that what the router actually says, or just what the MAC is registered to? On 9/11/2020 12:54 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Anybody else encountered a Yunlink router? Where do customers find these things? Are they shopping on Alibaba? I can’t find Yunlink for sale on Amazon or anywhere else.

[AFMUG] Yunlink router?

2020-09-11 Thread Ken Hohhof
Anybody else encountered a Yunlink router? Where do customers find these things? Are they shopping on Alibaba? I can't find Yunlink for sale on Amazon or anywhere else. We've got a new customer with an open DNS resolver and telnet interface. I figure it's just a matter of time before the

Re: [AFMUG] Yesterday's office... Coyote Tank .. Tornillo water utility

2020-09-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
Didn't change the tower is really close to this tank site ...signal was in -64db range ...speeds were excellent...my boss upgraded three PLCs from home this morning...said it was fastmy phone data speeds were in the 30-36 mbps down and 35-39mbps up.. On Fri, Sep 11, 2020, 9:07 AM Cameron

Re: [AFMUG] Yesterday's office... Coyote Tank .. Tornillo water utility

2020-09-11 Thread Cameron Crum
How's the LTE signal when you close the lid on that box? On Thu, Sep 10, 2020 at 12:50 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Installed another Cozy Ewon install...they just work! > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list

Re: [AFMUG] MT DynaDish throughput

2020-09-11 Thread Adam Moffett
Mikrotik Btest, but testing with CCR's on either side of the Dynadish. TCP, 20 connections, testing downlink direction only. On 9/11/2020 10:29 AM, Matt Corcoran wrote: Are you using the built in microtik speed test or are you testing through from an external device?   If using the microtik

Re: [AFMUG] MT DynaDish throughput

2020-09-11 Thread Matt Corcoran
Are you using the built in microtik speed test or are you testing through from an external device? If using the microtik speed test what are TCP, UDP, Up-only, Down-only test results? Externally I use iperf so I can try with multiple streams and know how exactly many streams

Re: [AFMUG] Circle parental control device

2020-09-11 Thread James Howard
I’ve never seen the performance hit that was claimed in the article. I’ve had one since they first came out. We’ve got the current model because they offered us a lifetime subscription version for a reasonable price as an upgrade. I currently have it on wifi because I ran out of space and

Re: [AFMUG] Circle parental control device

2020-09-11 Thread Ken Hohhof
OK, I guess I can answer my own question about how to turn Circle off by consulting their website: To turn the Circle device OFF The Circle device was designed with enterprising kids in mind and has an internal battery that will keep it working, even if it's unplugged. There may be times,

Re: [AFMUG] Circle parental control device

2020-09-11 Thread Ken Hohhof
I guess making them disable the Circle for troubleshooting might be a satisfactory compromise. Although I thought it had a battery and WiFi so kids couldn’t just unplug it, how do you turn the darn thing off? Battery pull? Also, would it be reasonable to require them to connect the Circle

Re: [AFMUG] OT RIP Emma Peel

2020-09-11 Thread Ken Hohhof
And of course Mrs. Peel was married. From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 9:38 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT RIP Emma Peel I worked with a guy back in the day that had this major thing about her. it was almost creepy the way he would talk

Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug

2020-09-11 Thread Ken Hohhof
Apparently the magic term is “inlet”. From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2020 9:33 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Looking for a 20A Auto Transfer Outdoor switch/plug Pick your poison. https://www.google.com/search?q=hubbell+ac+power+inlet+plug

Re: [AFMUG] Circle parental control device

2020-09-11 Thread Ryan Ray
If it works for them I don't care what people use on the network. If they called in for help we would tell them to unplug the circle first, just like someone troubleshooting over wireless. We have enough control and insight into the home network with our own routers and extenders that I don't