Re: [AFMUG] OT old timer question

the most we had was phone call and pages (before drug dealers took over pagers, tons of people around here had them) that the quarries were blasting. We had a tragic incident where a lady was out mowing and didnt get the page. a chunk of stone happened to fly almost a mile and croaked her off her

Re: [AFMUG] ***SPAM*** Watch "'I’m not a cat': lawyer gets stuck on Zoom kitten filter during court case" on YouTube

ha, i was just telling my wife about this. This is awesome On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 8:48 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > https://youtu.be/lGOofzZOyl8 > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT old timer question

I saw those commercials on TV in NW Indiana / the Chicagoland area. On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 7:58 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > I listened to a This American Life podcast about him last night. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 9, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Jaime Solorza > wrote: > >  > You should

[AFMUG] ***SPAM*** Watch "'I’m not a cat': lawyer gets stuck on Zoom kitten filter during court case" on YouTube

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Re: [AFMUG] OT old timer question

I listened to a This American Life podcast about him last night. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 9, 2021, at 6:45 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > >  > You should read up on our local celebrity true life detective Jay J. > Armes...his hands were blown off by those left by railroad tracks... > He

Re: [AFMUG] One of these things doesn't belong...

I remember those On Tue, Feb 9, 2021, 4:55 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > sposed to be in tupperware > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2021 4:01 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] One of these things doesn't belong... > > Exactly...the

Re: [AFMUG] OT old timer question

You should read up on our local celebrity true life detective Jay J. Armes...his hands were blown off by those left by railroad tracks... He rescued Marlon Brando's son who was kidnapped using Cheater Bella , a Vietnam era helicopter pilot I believe from Baja California...he also started as an

Re: [AFMUG] OT old timer question

Never had that here in TX. I was in grade school late 70s early 80's. There wasn't a lot of blasting going on around here. Lots of open range and cows where I grew up. On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 6:09 PM Bill Prince wrote: > I vaguely remember something like that too, but I don't recall the >

Re: [AFMUG] OT widow

at least it wasnt an onlyfans announcement. a lot of professionals have moved over there. Follow me @TOGfootman On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 7:13 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > I imagine they have had a pretty low revenue year. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 9, 2021, at 6:10 PM, Steve Jones

Re: [AFMUG] OT widow

I imagine they have had a pretty low revenue year. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 9, 2021, at 6:10 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > >  > she sent out an emotional blast. > >> On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 7:06 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: >> Did Trina leave or just start her own venture? Got an

Re: [AFMUG] ftth isp valuation

5x is low but you can add net positive and equity to that assuming good fiber assets. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 9, 2021, at 5:15 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: > >  > No MRC x 12-24? > > From: AF on behalf of Chuck McCown via AF > > Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 6:09 PM > To:

Re: [AFMUG] OT widow

she sent out an emotional blast. On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 7:06 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Did Trina leave or just start her own venture? Got an announcement on > LinkedIn. > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com >

Re: [AFMUG] OT wispa

That was supposed to be wisps, not widow. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 9, 2021, at 6:05 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > > Did Trina leave or just start her own venture? Got an announcement on > LinkedIn. > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com >

Re: [AFMUG] ftth isp valuation

No, revenue has no linkage to income . Very unsafe to presume it was a profitable company. Best to link value to earnings. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 9, 2021, at 5:15 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: > >  > No MRC x 12-24? > > From: AF on behalf of Chuck McCown via AF > > Date: Tuesday,

Re: [AFMUG] One of these things doesn't belong...

A. I actually have a temp site that turned permanent with the poweer supplies and switch in tupperware. B. I F@#$%@G hate when the toughswitch shows up in a rack from the 3 dollar camera system. Never ever ever is there not an associated problem On Tue, Feb 9, 2021, 5:55 PM Chuck McCown via AF

[AFMUG] OT widow

Did Trina leave or just start her own venture? Got an announcement on LinkedIn. Sent from my iPhone -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood

Probably not hard. That being said reports are now coming in that the constellation is collapsing. Many reports of speeds down to 10-30mbps. Latency all over the place 300+ms. > On Feb 9, 2021, at 7:02 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > >  > Wonder (just academic wondering) how hard it will

Re: [AFMUG] ftth isp valuation

I can be measured several different ways depending on the intent of the valuation, I think. 5x EBIDTA would be low in my opinion. Like junky clients on a junky fiber deployment. But EBIDTA is a good way of qualifying the sale. I don't think anyone would sell it for any multiple of EBIDTA that

Re: [AFMUG] ftth isp valuation

No MRC x 12-24? From: AF on behalf of Chuck McCown via AF Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 6:09 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ftth isp valuation 5x EBIDTA From: Gino A. Villarini Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 1:38 PM To: AnimalFarm

Re: [AFMUG] ftth isp valuation

Thanks! From: AF on behalf of Mark Radabaugh Date: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 at 8:12 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ftth isp valuation Gino, You might find this useful:

Re: [AFMUG] ftth isp valuation

Gino, You might find this useful: https://www.cobank.com/-/media/files/ked/communications/rural-broadband-valuations-remain-high-as-investors-move-down-market-for-new-opportunities-sep2020.pdf?la=en=F854BB88A685ECA5C09FD6BB1780CC4216A2D07E Mark > On Feb 9, 2021, at 3:38 PM, Gino A. Villarini

Re: [AFMUG] OT old timer question

I vaguely remember something like that too, but I don't recall the details. My early years growing up was in Illinois farm country, and we weren't too far from a couple of strip mines that were operating back in those days. Before I was a teenager, the strip mines had been decommissioned and

Re: [AFMUG] OT old timer question

You know, from watching cartoons growing up, I thought there would be a lot more quicksand and dynamite in my every day life than there actually is. On 2/9/2021 5:59 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: When I was young they had posters at grade school showing us what blasting caps looked like and

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood

Wonder (just academic wondering) how hard it will be to jam starlink... just wondering... From: Matt Hoppes Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 4:59 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood Ooo. Just saw another customer post on Facebook they ordered

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood

Ooo. Just saw another customer post on Facebook they ordered Starlink. Their house is 150% encased in trees. This should be interesting to watch. He’s also getting 50 down by 40 up on our service for $110. > On Feb 9, 2021, at 1:29 PM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: > >  > Its not koolaid,

[AFMUG] OT old timer question

When I was young they had posters at grade school showing us what blasting caps looked like and to tell a grup if we saw any. I think there may have been tv commercials too. Just piqued my interest. Maybe it was due to growing up in logging country in Oregon. Did they do this in other

Re: [AFMUG] One of these things doesn't belong...

sposed to be in tupperware From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 4:01 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] One of these things doesn't belong... Exactly...the SCADA manager for this small water company wired up some cameras without telling anyone...he

Re: [AFMUG] Wow

We had fun installing their Lantastic phone system over NCR WaveLAN 902-928MHz 2Mbps links...the cat's meow back in the 1990s On Tue, Feb 9, 2021, 3:09 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Lantastic. > > *From:* James Howard > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 9, 2021 12:29 PM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave

Re: [AFMUG] One of these things doesn't belong...

I'd love to know who did this and why. On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 4:06 PM Brian Webster wrote: > Guessing the tough switch? Doesn’t look to be of your typical installation > quality. > > > > Thank you, > > Brian Webster > > www.wirelessmapping.com > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com]

Re: [AFMUG] ftth isp valuation

5x EBIDTA From: Gino A. Villarini Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 1:38 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] ftth isp valuation wondering what’s a good avg for valuation a ftth isp with about $5m annual revenue. Mostly aerial fiber plant. thanks! Gino Villarini

Re: [AFMUG] Wow

Lantastic. From: James Howard Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 12:29 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wow Yeah but that arcnet card that used to connect it to the old netware server isn’t going to let it get exposed to anything. Those ones aren’t the security

Re: [AFMUG] One of these things doesn't belong...

Guessing the tough switch? Doesn’t look to be of your typical installation quality. Thank you, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 4:02 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] Wow

If you lived in Oldsmar FL I’d be worried right now…… From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 1:24 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wow id give this "attack" some credibility if it turned out to be something cool like they researched the

[AFMUG] ftth isp valuation

wondering what’s a good avg for valuation a ftth isp with about $5m annual revenue. Mostly aerial fiber plant. thanks! Gino Villarini Founder/President @gvillarini t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204

Re: [AFMUG] Wow

id give this "attack" some credibility if it turned out to be something cool like they researched the various control systems and realized the increasing the lye in system A would trigger system Bs sensors to mitigate it with Chemical 1. The increase of chemical 1 causes system C to trigger a

Re: [AFMUG] Wow

Yeah but that arcnet card that used to connect it to the old netware server isn’t going to let it get exposed to anything. Those ones aren’t the security risk (at least remote risk). From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 1:08 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave

Re: [AFMUG] Wow

Yeah, I would think pH adjustment would be a semi real time PID type of control. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 12:09 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wow We install all kinds of sensors at water and wastewater treatment plants to detect,

Re: [AFMUG] Wow

We install all kinds of sensors at water and wastewater treatment plants to detect, monitor and manage these issues. On Tue, Feb 9, 2021, 11:55 AM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > The dosage went to the equivalent of 11 grams per liter. I don’t think > that would kill you. You might not even

Re: [AFMUG] Wow

An old IBM XT in the corner running a basic program ... From: James Howard Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 10:17 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wow Scary to think how many of these types of systems there are out there that nobody knows how to change the

Re: [AFMUG] Wow

The dosage went to the equivalent of 11 grams per liter. I don’t think that would kill you. You might not even taste it. I would expect it to be bitter. The ld50 is 2 grams per kg. So 200 grams to kill me half way. That is a lot of sodium hydroxide. I would have had to drink 18 liters

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium's new 802.11ax ePMP PTP solution, the ePMP Force 400 Series -- 1GBps PTP

AHHH yess your conversion to the Dark side is now complete MUHAHAHA! On 2/4/21 3:26 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: None of the dishes are interchangeable.  I'd guess the radomes aren't interchangeable, but I could certainly be wrong. I think if you're looking for heavy loaded sites you'd be better

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood

Its not koolaid, its great marketing! Gino Villarini Founder/President @gvillarini t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 [https://mcusercontent.com/491678685aaddc31e08616413/images/968060a2-d5a8-4a76-b3b3-cee8c588e646.png] [https://image.ibb.co/noQeyp/inc500.png]

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood

People are stupid and willing to suck up the Apple/Elon kool aid? I'm shocked. People think they need 50 mbps or 150 mbps when they have *NO IDEA* what they're currently using is just a fine example of marketing and bigger is always better (see muscle cars in the 60s). Josh Luthman 24/7 Help

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood

There have been published discussions with Musk about RV's and Starlink and a separate interview with the developers where the RV use of starlink was discussed and committed to by both Musk and the developers.   I figure I want to get the h/w and play with it at a fixed location to understand

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood

Robert, I wanted was going to sign up to get Starlink for my RV but saw this on their web site and decided to postpone until I learned more: Can I travel with Starlink, or move it to a different address? Starlink satellites are scheduled to send internet down to all users within a designated

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood

I see that Musk is, a) testing demand, b) raising a chunk of Starlink specific cash ( no strings attached ), c) figuring out where the next orbits/ground stations need to be. d) understanding usage and limitations.   All very valid reasons to open up general sales.   I threw $100 at it to get

Re: [AFMUG] Wow

I get irritated by this stuff. Some guy is gonna take the fll for this, like the operations manager at the plant or whatever, always has to be a head to roll to look like youre doing something. ops manager at the plant probably knows water nside and out, he can probably like a droplet and tell you

Re: [AFMUG] Wow

Scary to think how many of these types of systems there are out there that nobody knows how to change the passwords so employees leave or are fired and the new guy is just told what the password is. That's bad enough when it's not connected and exposed to the internet. The other problem is

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood

I ordered a Starlink system as my cabin is in an area that we can get service right away from Starlink and we don’t service the area with our network. Other locations in MN say it will be middle to late 2021 for service availability. I should have some first hand knowledge in a week or two.

[AFMUG] OT Re: Not getting AFMUG list posts

I have not seen any bounces since you re-subscribed yesterday. There were not many emails. I will double post this and you can use it to test. From: Jeremy Grip Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 9:41 AM To: 'Chuck McCown' Subject: RE: Not getting AFMUG list posts Chuck— They're not

Re: [AFMUG] Wow

This sounds a whole lot more like an ex employee with a RAT than "hackers". GUI driven access to a water systems control and setting a specific value is not the work of "hackers" I used to work at a factory as a supervisor of the contract staff when i was like 18, one of my roles was to record a

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood

If he's truly surrounded by trees with no clear sky like the Starlink app shows with their VR overlay, he will likely have a poor experience with it and maybe come back. We always tell people canceling what their average usage is because we use Preseem and most people rarely average more than 10

[AFMUG] Starlink - First Blood

Got our first "Starlink" call today. Guy who's been a long term customer - paying $90 for 50 megabits -- and getting that. Says "I'd rather give my money to a local company than to Musk, but those speeds. Any chance you'll be offering faster speeds?". My only response was - if you truly

Re: [AFMUG] Wow

TeamViewer even... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Cameron Crum" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 9:55:12 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wow 1.

Re: [AFMUG] Wow

1. Why is the system exposed to the public internet at all? 2. Why would they have remote desktop on a machine that has access to these systems? Like most municipal IT departments, they are probably staffed with guys who couldn't get a better job in the private sector. Scary. On Tue, Feb 9, 2021

Re: [AFMUG] Wow

In one of the reports I read, they described the mouse/cursor moving around as if an invisible hand was moving it. Sounds to me as if they're doing a remote desktop or something? bp On 2/9/2021 7:42 AM, Nate Burke wrote: It's like the hacks

Re: [AFMUG] Wow

It's like the hacks of every late 80s-early90's moving coming true. On 2/9/2021 8:45 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/08/us/oldsmar-florida-hack-water-poison/index.html -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

[AFMUG] Wow

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