Re: [AFMUG] MCC-800-GIGE-APC-HV and ethernet link issues

2024-05-31 Thread dmmoffett
Maybe a use case could be something like industrial controls? A damaged port could be very expensive, but nobody cares if it’s 10mbps or 1000. -Adam From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@go-mtc.com Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2024 6:18 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] Multi-path, Reflections, and Ducting

2024-05-14 Thread dmmoffett
I can’t remember, is the 450 slant polarity? From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Monday, May 13, 2024 12:41 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Multi-path, Reflections, and Ducting yep, til we switch to 450 we had one customer like this. the coolest part

Re: [AFMUG] SNMP

2024-05-09 Thread dmmoffett
As far as something newer/better than SNMP, there is Netconf (RFC6241). In a nutshell, it uses HTTP to carry XML data with the queries and commands. It’s “push” rather than “pull”, so you put the NMS URL in the device rather than adding every device to the NMS. In theory, if your NMS server

Re: [AFMUG] OT Beginner's All-Purpose Symbolic Instruction Code

2024-05-07 Thread dmmoffett
My first was a Commodore 128, which you almost always ran in C64 mode because most of the software was written for the C64 rather than break compatibility with the established user base. I was probably 7 years old. If anyone had a Commodore you may recall that the OS was a BASIC interpreter.

Re: [AFMUG] Pot

2024-05-06 Thread dmmoffett
What the doctor told me was if the drug was classified as a controlled substance (which amphetamines are, including lisdexamphetamine/Vyvanse) then there’s a quota applied to geographic areas. The distributors are only allowed to sell x amount in a given region, and they parse the quota out to

Re: [AFMUG] Pot

2024-05-06 Thread dmmoffett
I started on lisdexamfetamine recently. My productivity is much higher. My focus still drifts elsewhere, but I find I recenter on my main task more quickly. ADHD is profoundly genetic by the way. If your son has it then you or his mother does. The current thinking is that it's so

Re: [AFMUG] DWDM/CWDM Magic

2024-05-06 Thread dmmoffett
This non-profit joint exists due to ARRA funding. At the time I was annoyed that they got money for middle mile that doesn’t serve anybody and we didn’t get funding for our wireless project that actually *would* serve people. In hindsight I don’t mind them being there. We looked at an IRU

Re: [AFMUG] DWDM/CWDM Magic

2024-05-05 Thread dmmoffett
>From a non-profit middle-mile provider we pay $42/month/fiber-mile for a >lease. Same company does a 20-year IRU for $1000/fiber-mile. There’s a >recurring maintenance fee on the IRU, but it’s peanuts. I’m betting these >prices are near the floor. I don’t believe there’s a ceiling.

Re: [AFMUG] Pot

2024-05-01 Thread dmmoffett
I think the ADA does want you to accommodate rehab appointments in someone’s work schedule. …..which I would do anyway. If they’re working on getting straight I don’t want to stand in their way. I don’t know if anyone goes to rehab for pot though. Probably not. -Adam From: AF

Re: [AFMUG] Won One

2024-05-01 Thread dmmoffett
“crap job on the aerial drop (too close to electrical service entrance wires) but I was tired of arguing” Hopefully 40” or greater. A cable guy in the NY Hudson Valley area was literally incinerated by a power line a couple weeks ago. The 40” clearance rule is there for a serious frickin

Re: [AFMUG] OT: East Utah fun

2024-05-01 Thread dmmoffett
Graboids haha As stupid as that movie was, I enjoyed the hell out of it. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, April 29, 2024 12:12 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: East Utah fun Always need some dynamite on hand in case

Re: [AFMUG] Won One

2024-04-29 Thread dmmoffett
It’s pretty common to have drop cable teams separate from the house install teams. I think the reasoning is you can subcontract drop cables, but you want to keep the customer facing piece in house. The other reason is a customer doesn’t need to be home for the drop cable to get done, so you

Re: [AFMUG] Bard

2024-04-22 Thread dmmoffett
Or in Klingon: taH pagh taHbe' From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Monday, April 22, 2024 11:44 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com Subject: [AFMUG] Bard (ii) b + ! (ii) b -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Killer 900MHz?

2024-04-22 Thread dmmoffett
Nothing will ever convince these types. It would be simple for them to do an experiment with a couple of potted plants and whatever transmitter they’re afraid of, but if they were into things like facts and data they wouldn’t be down this road to begin with. Facebook and Twitter posts are the

Re: [AFMUG] Killer 900MHz?

2024-04-22 Thread dmmoffett
Yeah the vent. Something similar happened to our boxwood bushes when the hot water heater vent was moved from the roof to a sidewall. It would come on for 40 minutes or so in the morning when people were taking showers, but that’s all it took. It looks like a kitchen vent, but if they

Re: [AFMUG] ASN check

2024-04-16 Thread dmmoffett
Well this CIRBN LLC is peered with you I don’t know who your other peer is supposed to be, but I’d make sure your BGP connection to them is in the “Established” state and maybe reset that connection. “clear ip bgp neighbor x.x.x.x” or whatever equivalent command on your router. Also verify

Re: [AFMUG] ASN check

2024-04-16 Thread dmmoffett
https://bgp.he.net/AS40121 Hurricane Electric says 1 peer. From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2024 3:08 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] ASN check 40121 can somebody else verify this is only showing one peer, im no looking glass

Re: [AFMUG] LiFePO4 question again

2024-04-05 Thread dmmoffett
A fair point, but it raises another question for me. With lead-acid if your charger is too small it can lead to unequal cells. There’s some rule of thumb formula based on the 10 hour C-rate…..like 1/10th maybe? I’m not sure without looking it up. I’m not sure why. I imagine it’s like

Re: [AFMUG] UniFi AP 5ghz dies

2024-03-28 Thread dmmoffett
Funny you mention DFS. I wasn't looking for it before, but the most recently affected unit was on a DFS channel. I seem to recall we used to have a checkbox to disallow DFS channels on auto channel selection. Was that removed at some point, or was it a figment of my imagination? One of my top

[AFMUG] UniFi AP 5ghz dies

2024-03-21 Thread dmmoffett
Do you guys commonly see UniFi APs stop transmitting on the 5ghz side? I feel like I'm seeing it all the time. A reboot doesn't always get it back, but a factory reset does. It's annoying as heck because there are no alarms or anything. You find out when someone reports poor performance

Re: [AFMUG] PON question

2024-03-18 Thread dmmoffett
Since I like to give too much detail: Range The TDM timing gives you a “maximum differential reach”. I’ve read that it’s 20km on GPON, 40km on XGS-PON, and 100km on NG-PON2. I haven’t read the actual ITU specs, but those numbers were touted to be the “standard”. Whether that’s true or

[AFMUG] CALEA and WiFi

2024-03-18 Thread dmmoffett
CALEA hasn't been on my radar much, so this is probably an old topic, but it's one I don't know much about. If you provide WiFi in a public space how do you handle compliance? We have parks, airports, and other public spaces with managed WiFi. There are also MDU's with WiFi in a public area

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber on bad spool

2024-03-06 Thread dmmoffett
If it's too broken to sit on an axle and rotate then I can see why they wouldn't want to play with it. I'm feeling salty today, but for thousands of dollars worth of cable they should suck it up and do it anyway. My only question would be whether to figure-8 the whole thing onto the ground or to

Re: [AFMUG] Security camera experience

2024-03-06 Thread dmmoffett
I have no constructive input. UniFi always finds a way to tick me off. Their original Ubiquiti AirVision camera system was such a horror show that the cameras in particular give me a visceral response. Regardless of how they've improved I can't forgive them. I guess their WiFi is ok enough

Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount

2024-02-22 Thread dmmoffett
Agree completely, but I'd consider something like that C-channel thing with the band slots that I linked below. The weakest point on that is probably leverage on the protruding stud. And I guess thinking of it that way, if they took something like that and used it backwards by replacing the

Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount

2024-02-21 Thread dmmoffett
One of these? https://www.linemen-tools.com/General_Purpose_Mount_10_x_5_Mounting_bracket_p/alu-d-4080-bs1.htm Basically the same thing as the band-it, but bigger. It's supposed to be bands around the pole and then use the holes in the channel for mounting something. I guess there's no reason

Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount

2024-02-20 Thread dmmoffett
I've been wracking my brain on that description. If there's band clamp it usually goes the other way, with a band clamp around the pole and they give you either a stud or a threaded hole to mount your equipment on. I wonder if they took a banding mount and just installed it backwards.

Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount

2024-02-20 Thread dmmoffett
I know what I would do, but you can do whatever feels right. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2024 6:18 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount But on the nut, curve in

Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount

2024-02-20 Thread dmmoffett
If you're putting that rod through a pole, spend an extra $2 on a square curve washer for the back side: https://www.linemen-tools.com/Square_Curved_Washer_2_1_2_x_2_1_2_x_3_16_J6822_p/h-j6822.htm What you're describing might be a conduit standoff bracket. That same linemen-tools.com site may

Re: [AFMUG] Wood Pole Mount

2024-02-20 Thread dmmoffett
+1 to both of those suggestions. * I've seen plenty of universal mounts attached to a wooden pole (J-arms, J-pipes, or whatever you want to call them). * Rohn WM4 is the name brand galvanized 4" wall mount, but there are a thousand copies out there. Just watch out for zinc plating or

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

2024-02-14 Thread dmmoffett
"Telrad documentation would take a whole paragraph to tell you how to change an integer value and not ever tell you what it does. " Since I'm feeling grouchy, I really want to expand on this story. There was a setting for the Wimax firmware on the Telrad 1000 called "Frame Offset". The manual

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

2024-02-13 Thread dmmoffett
Oh sorry, I didn't mean to say that you were a hater. I'm getting older, so to act my age I have to do some general purpose grouching. From: AF On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 11:55 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

2024-02-13 Thread dmmoffett
Your outcomes with that feature sounded marginal. Maybe it’s not ready and they don’t want to charge money for it until it’s more fully baked. Just a WAG. -Adam From: AF On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 11:12 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

2024-02-13 Thread dmmoffett
I loved that stats were there and that documentation accurately described what they meant and what the knobs are for. I also always felt that Cambium was listening to the operators and trying to give us what we needed and wanted. If you can read, you can use the product without support, but in

Re: [AFMUG] OT 2038 Linux

2024-02-12 Thread dmmoffett
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_time#Operating_systems Fun chart here. Linux kernels after 5.10 support dates up to July 2486. The 2038 thing affects older kernels. It also may impact a variety of other things that might have stored dates as a 32 bit integer. File system time

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450m uplink interference cancellation feature

2024-02-01 Thread dmmoffett
I'm out of the wireless game at this point, so this is all opinion: I also would have been ecstatic with a gain like going from 3x to 6x, but your result sounds pretty reasonable. Whatever signal processing is done for interference "cancellation", it has to do that processing on every received

Re: [AFMUG] APC PDU and V-Lock

2024-01-31 Thread dmmoffett
Yeah you only find these outlets here and there because there’s a specific use case. NEMA 5-15 is only rated for 125V. The IEC C13 & C14 connectors are rated for up to 250 Volt. The equipment PSU’s are of course sold internationally so they’re almost always fine with up to 250V. So if

Re: [AFMUG] APC PDU and V-Lock

2024-01-31 Thread dmmoffett
Thanks. Maybe nobody here has had V-Lock PDU’s? I don’t know if it’s the general case that they’re looser, or is it just this particular PDU (or the cord). From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2024 10:41 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] APC PDU and

[AFMUG] APC PDU and V-Lock

2024-01-30 Thread dmmoffett
I'm guessing this group has collectively seen everything. Equipment was installed in leased cabinet space in a data center just about 18 months ago. The data center has APC PDU's installed in the racks. Visual aid: My colleague went there today because two servers were both intermittently

Re: [AFMUG] compensation for employees

2024-01-29 Thread dmmoffett
An employee’s perspective: * I’d continue with regular increases. I have been at two places where the only time I’d get a raise was when I had an offer from someone else. This tends to happen at tiny businesses with no HR department. * More than anything else I want a good work

Re: [AFMUG] optical TX power levels

2024-01-26 Thread dmmoffett
UmmI think I need to clarify that I did not intend any double entendre with that final comment. I was recalling back to a training session where we were to test attenuation on a connector before and after cleaning it. One of my colleagues licked his finger and wiped the ferrule with it. He

Re: [AFMUG] optical TX power levels

2024-01-26 Thread dmmoffett
Personally, I'd have no objection to LACP on 4x25G links if that's what gets the job done. I think you should be able to configure the Arista that way and it'll just show up as 4 sub-interfaces like et1/1, et1/2, et1/3, et1/4. With reflectance -20 I'd still go stab all the connectors with a

Re: [AFMUG] optical TX power levels

2024-01-25 Thread dmmoffett
Out of curiosity, what did the provider tell you about this trace? The -20 and -15 reflectance stand out pretty loud and clear. If their OTDR has a “smart” mode it would have flagged those as failures. If they didn’t see a problem here they might need a test device smarter than they are.

Re: [AFMUG] optical TX power levels

2024-01-25 Thread dmmoffett
As an OTDR trace it looks really good, but your problem might be at event 18 and/or 19. I don’t know how much you wanted to know so I apologize if I’m starting too far towards the beginning. #18 is around 100m from the end and has reflectance of -21.36. That’s crappy. The -15 below it

Re: [AFMUG] optical TX power levels

2024-01-24 Thread dmmoffett
100 gig is going to have I believe 4 wavelengths. This command shows you the level on each channel: show interfaces et31/1 transceiver dom I think if one channel isn’t connected you wouldn’t get 100G link, but you’d still have receive power. Bends and such can impact one channel and

Re: [AFMUG] optical TX power levels

2024-01-24 Thread dmmoffett
They auto adjust the Tx. I haven’t dug deep into how that works, but I would assume it’s keyed off the Rx signals. However they do it, it’s not unusual for them to land at different levels This is from a pair of 20km transceivers between two Aristas. They’re not FS.com. The brand is

Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper

2024-01-23 Thread dmmoffett
I started on Cisco forever ago. During my WISP times it was a blend of Mikrotiks and refurb Cisco’s. I started on Juniper a few years ago. It was alien at first, but I learned to like it. Networks are never homogenous….at least not forever. And after 25 years of scripting, programming,

Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper

2024-01-13 Thread dmmoffett
You are correct. 4x 100G. We replaced our 204 with the 10003 a couple years ago and I just misremembered. I thought I remembered it having 6 port 100G modules…..apparently that’s a figment of my imagination. From: AF On Behalf Of TJ Trout Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2024 2:03 AM

Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper

2024-01-12 Thread dmmoffett
Thanks, I’ll have to keep it in mind. That price point and port mix is not that far away from Arista, but no matter how much capital a company has they always want to sharpen the pencil. With an L3 switch the thing that we always have to keep in mind is which features don’t use the ASIC

Re: [AFMUG] Used Juniper

2024-01-11 Thread dmmoffett
Arista goes both ways. We have a number of Arista L3 switches, and also a big modular chassis thing comparable to a Juniper MX. Full routes just depends on the model. Some of them can’t do it. We started buying Arista a couple of years ago when Juniper changed their pricing model. Good

Re: [AFMUG] -48V kicking the dead horse

2024-01-08 Thread dmmoffett
The issue is if the power supply or any of the equipment connected to it has positive tied to ground and then you take another device with negative tied to ground and put that on the same power supply. Then you have + and - of the power supply dead shorted through the ground connections and

Re: [AFMUG] -48V kicking the dead horse

2024-01-08 Thread dmmoffett
I concur with the wire color problem. * My current employer pays big bucks to a low voltage guy who wires up our sites. His work is absolutely beautiful. It's like friggin artwork. He uses black for return (+) and green for ground. Then since most of our equipment has dual power supplies he

Re: [AFMUG] -48v power plant

2024-01-03 Thread dmmoffett
We're still building with VRLA batteries...but that's just the combination of conservatism and institutional momentum. I'd look seriously at LiFePo4. For compatibility with existing rectifiers you'd look for battery packs with a charge controller and management built in. You can then disable the

Re: [AFMUG] WDM transceivers

2023-12-21 Thread dmmoffett
Well if that works then a single transceiver ought to work too I should think. I can just wait for the right part, so it may be a moot point when all is said and done, but I was curious about it. From: AF On Behalf Of castarritt Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2023 10:34 AM To: AnimalFarm

Re: [AFMUG] WDM transceivers

2023-12-21 Thread dmmoffett
Well you’d buy them because there are up to 96 DWDM channels, and only up to 18 CWDM channels. You’d still be limited to the number of ports on the MUX. The situation is the CWDM MUX is already there, and our vendor momentarily has a shorter lead time on DWDM. The upper CWDM channels

[AFMUG] WDM transceivers

2023-12-20 Thread dmmoffett
Dumb question of the week: Could I run a pair of DWDM transceivers through a CWDM multiplexer and expect it to work? I'd only be using a small slice of the channel, but if the DWDM wavelength is encompassed by the larger CWDM wavelength then that light should still reach the intended

Re: [AFMUG] Prevailing Wage

2023-12-18 Thread dmmoffett
The act itself is quite short and refers to “excavation projects” multiple times. The stated intention of the rule is to maintain road quality by not allowing utility companies to get some cut-rate hacks to patch the pavement after they’ve dug it up. The trouble stems from the broad

[AFMUG] Prevailing Wage

2023-12-15 Thread dmmoffett
There's a new rule in NY State: https://legislation.nysenate.gov/pdf/bills/2023/a5608 https://dol.ny.gov/system/files/documents/2023/12/enforcement-guidance-roadw ay-excavation-quality-assurance-act-update-3.pdf 'a "Covered excavation project" shall mean construction work for which a permit

Re: [AFMUG] Geolocation updates

2023-11-01 Thread dmmoffett
One more note on this topic for our mutual education: We had an IP block acquired from Cogent where we submitted geolocation updates, but things kept reverting back to "Albany, NY" That's because Cogent had a geofeed specifying Albany, NY for the whole /19. We were advised to make our own

Re: [AFMUG] Geolocation updates

2023-10-31 Thread dmmoffett
I guess the long term answer to this is going to be RFC8805 and RFC9092. You stick a CSV file on the web matching your IP blocks to a city and state, then add a comment on your IP Blocks with ARIN which contains a URL to the geofeed CSV. The geolocation providers who support this will

Re: [AFMUG] Modbus

2023-10-26 Thread dmmoffett
Is it likely that AC meters for monitoring circuits or subpanels have a standard message format? -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2023 10:52 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Modbus Modbus is an ancient

Re: [AFMUG] Geolocation updates

2023-10-22 Thread dmmoffett
I see the mention of Hulu on that page. Someone’s Hulu TV has the channels from another market which is what prompted today’s musings. Will the “IP Admin” at Hulu override stuff? I have a similar list of geolocation providers already, but I can’t believe all of these ding dongs have

[AFMUG] Geolocation updates

2023-10-22 Thread dmmoffett
Which services do you need to update when you move IP blocks or get new blocks? I can't believe they all have their own separate databases. There must be smaller ones that key off of larger ones. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] 12 Volt DC to 120 VAC

2023-10-17 Thread dmmoffett
In all seriousness I've never looked for a DIN Rail inverter until just now. https://www.meanwell-web.com/content/files/pdfs/productPdfs/MW/NTS-400P/NTS- 400P-spec.pdf That one has decent temperature range. Input from 10-16V which should accommodate charging and discharging voltages on a 12V

Re: [AFMUG] 12 Volt DC to 120 VAC

2023-10-17 Thread dmmoffett
The trick is to connect the inverter and charger in a loop so you have unlimited free energy. From: AF On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2023 2:13 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 12 Volt DC to 120 VAC You want an inverter. Depends on

Re: [AFMUG] prevailing wage

2023-10-12 Thread dmmoffett
I know you know, but Lawyers and/or Accountants are the people for this question. If any of us tell you wrong stuff it’s still on you for believing a bunch of jerks on the Internet. If lawyers tell you wrong it’s on them (at least up to a point). In my experience, if you do do something

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home solar

2023-10-04 Thread dmmoffett
Neat From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2023 8:06 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home solar I recently paid 45 cents for panels and 7.5 cents /Wh for batts. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 4, 2023,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home solar

2023-10-04 Thread dmmoffett
Thanks for the tip! From: AF On Behalf Of TJ Trout Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2023 4:55 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Home solar check signature solar, $0.25/w with free shipping I believe, also the inverters and batteries are a fraction of the cost

[AFMUG] OT: Home solar

2023-10-04 Thread dmmoffett
I'm contemplating solar at home. I'm seeing $0.60/watt here if you're buying qty 10 of 550W panels. Is that a good price these days? https://sungoldpower.com/collections/monocrystalline-solar-panel I haven't looked at panels in some years, but that sounds almost too low. Are they going to

Re: [AFMUG] dumb OTDR question

2023-09-29 Thread dmmoffett
It’s a 1x2 PLC, and I wondered if it could have been an unterminated leg, but usually you get noise after a dead end whereas this trace continued on for a bit before hitting a definite dead end. From: AF On Behalf Of Trey Scarborough Sent: Friday, September 29, 2023 3:20 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] Blast = Blast

2023-09-25 Thread dmmoffett
At least a subset of people are stupid. If anybody hasn’t had any phone calls from stupid people then I assume they have someone else answering the phone. From: AF On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, September 24, 2023 9:05 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] OTU4 equipment?

2023-09-09 Thread dmmoffett
https://www.fs.com/c/100g-qsfp28-1159?c_site=community

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP4600

2023-09-06 Thread dmmoffett
Maybe I need a sarcasm filter. Nobody should do any of this, these are not serious “solutions”, and there’s no “EIRP Problem”. The EIRP limit (and other rules) are there to protect incumbent licensed operators who have invested a small fortune into radio equipment they are relying on to

Re: [AFMUG] EPMP4600

2023-09-06 Thread dmmoffett
The industry already has solutions to the EIRP problem. * Buy international units set to follow the rules in Russia or Hong Kong and then you can run any channel you want at whatever power you want. * Alter the firmware on a US unit to enable rules for another country or maybe

Re: [AFMUG] AC voltage alarm thresholds

2023-09-05 Thread dmmoffett
I appreciate the input, thank you! From: AF On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2023 7:30 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AC voltage alarm thresholds 265V is a common top voltage threshold, but you'll need to look at

[AFMUG] AC voltage alarm thresholds

2023-09-05 Thread dmmoffett
Do any of you smart guys know how far out of whack does AC voltage have to be to cause trouble? We have an NMS monitoring rectifier input voltage and it's current alarm threshold is 250V. Occasionally that goes off and everyone ignores it. I'd like to set an alarm threshold where we should

Re: [AFMUG] Question for Chuck, and anyone wise who wants to add their 0.02...

2023-08-18 Thread dmmoffett
That makes me wonder if the other guys’ “10gig” surge suppressor is going to break what I plug into it. I’ll tell you, compared to any other ethernet surge suppressor the 10gig model they sell has almost nothing in it. If it works, it’s got to be the most minimal protection imaginable.

Re: [AFMUG] Question for Chuck, and anyone wise who wants to add their 0.02...

2023-08-17 Thread dmmoffett
Have you played with multi-gig ethernet? A certain “brand T” has a model of 10gig surge suppressor and it has very few components compared to their prior models. I was wondering if 10G is too sensitive to put more components in the line. -Adam From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF

Re: [AFMUG] battery nerd question

2023-08-17 Thread dmmoffett
Ooh What lithium batteries are we talking about? Last time I checked (a number of years ago), it was around 5x the $/Wh to buy Lithium. From: AF On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2023 10:51 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] battery nerd

Re: [AFMUG] battery nerd question

2023-08-16 Thread dmmoffett
That’s building strictly for a 20W load though. Building for a tiny load does make the costs easier. But if you wanted a second AP, bigger backhaul, or anything else you can’t do it without growing the whole power system proportionally. Steve was talking a 50W load today. The real high

Re: [AFMUG] battery nerd question

2023-08-16 Thread dmmoffett
I end up closer to Chuck’s estimate. In Southern or Central NY State I’m 2 degrees north of Salt Lake City. 42N What’s your latitude? From: AF On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2023 4:11 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] battery nerd

Re: [AFMUG] battery nerd question

2023-08-16 Thread dmmoffett
Definitely worth asking about. They have done unmetered service here in the past for CATV amps, but I think NYSEG told us they aren't doing any new ones. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Chris Fabien Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2023 10:52 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group

Re: [AFMUG] battery nerd question

2023-08-15 Thread dmmoffett
I can save you the suspense. If you have access to electric that’ll be cheaper than solar. The problem is the need to run 24/7. You have to design around the December-January months. I’m in NY State, and at our latitude we only get a few hours of average production per day during those

Re: [AFMUG] battery nerd question

2023-08-15 Thread dmmoffett
*You’re around C/30 which should be on the high end of capacity. Lower load usually means a little extra capacity out of the battery. I realized that sentence might have been ambiguous. From: dmmoff...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2023 6:56 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users

Re: [AFMUG] battery nerd question

2023-08-15 Thread dmmoffett
You can do the whole thing in Watts. 12V * 150ah = 1800 Watt-hours 1800Wh / 50W = 36 hours If they’re telling me 95% efficiency, I’d assume 50W out needs 53W in (50 / 0.95). There’s usually an efficiency curve for the device based on load and temperature so it wouldn’t be 95% in all

Re: [AFMUG] sector antennas: Dual band, Single input

2023-08-14 Thread dmmoffett
Aaaannd the Air802 one is V-Pol only. It does have a combined input, but single polarity. So I guess my only option is L-Com/Hyperlink at the moment. From: dmmoff...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 14, 2023 4:47 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: RE: sector antennas: Dual

Re: [AFMUG] sector antennas: Dual band, Single input

2023-08-14 Thread dmmoffett
Bah..I can't read. I sent the wrong L-Com link a minute ago. https://www.l-com.com/Images/Downloadables/Datasheets/ds_HG2458-15DP-090.pdf I initially linked to a V-Pol antenna. THIS is the one. And they don't have a special name for it. On the spec sheet it says "Dual Polarity / Dual

[AFMUG] sector antennas: Dual band, Single input

2023-08-14 Thread dmmoffett
Ruckus T350SE has 2 external antenna connectors for a dual band 2x2 AP. It seems they're combining the output of both frequencies onto one connector so they only need two instead of four. So I'm looking for dual band sector antennas where 5ghz and 2ghz are on the same connector. They

Re: [AFMUG] CE+T Power Sierra 10

2023-08-14 Thread dmmoffett
I think CE+T is pretty uncommon in the USA. We have one inverter supplied by a low voltage contractor. It's really nice, but no idea what it cost. They usually quote us one line item for materials. From: AF On Behalf Of Peter Kranz via AF Sent: Friday, August 11, 2023 8:00 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] Robot solar panel cleaners

2023-08-08 Thread dmmoffett
(continued) Or maybe there's a pully at each end of the row and a loop of steel cable drags the machine back and forth. DC- comes through the steel cable and DC+/ground is the aluminum frame of the solar panel. Or switch polarity around if there's a reason to, I'm assuming a positive ground

Re: [AFMUG] Robot solar panel cleaners

2023-08-08 Thread dmmoffett
In short, it's a rechargeable thing that sits in it's docking station during the day. At night it rolls out along a row of panels and brushes them all off, then moves from row to row and eventually returns to its docking station. That's a very slick system, but I think it could be a lot

Re: [AFMUG] Temperature compensation at high temps

2023-08-07 Thread dmmoffett
They show an operating temp up to 50C. It’s hard to tell with the Engrish translation, but since that sentence is in the context of the temperature compensation chart down below, maybe they just don’t want us to go any lower than 53V. In other words, I was reading it this morning as “disable

[AFMUG] Temperature compensation at high temps

2023-08-07 Thread dmmoffett
>From a VRLA battery’s operation manual: "If ambient temperature below 5℃ or above 40℃, temperature compensate is no longer go on." Hopefully we never get that room up to 40C/105F, but why would we turn temperature compensation off at that temperature? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Are you reliant on searching?

2023-07-31 Thread dmmoffett
A few weeks ago the Windows search box was broken for me, but I was in the middle of something where I couldn't restart my computer. That was the first time I'd used the Start Menu to open applications in 4 or 5 years. I only use Start to find the "shutdown" button. Yes, it's faster to search

Re: [AFMUG] Remember these times

2023-07-24 Thread dmmoffett
Small scale traffic pumping  naughty boy From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 3:00 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Remember these times Had 6 lines burning 24/7 for several years. But I worked got the

Re: [AFMUG] "Low pass" attenuator

2023-07-12 Thread dmmoffett
In my imagination I picture something with microsecond response time that only affects the signal from the stronger ONT. If signal is stronger than -15 then reduce it by 5dB. Maybe some kind of opto-electronic switch that directs light through two equal length paths. One path has the

Re: [AFMUG] "Low pass" attenuator

2023-07-12 Thread dmmoffett
Nokia. From: AF On Behalf Of Chris Fabien Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 7:29 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] "Low pass" attenuator If it's for calix I'd be curious to know what you're testing... On Tue, Jul 11, 2023, 1:27 PM mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> >

Re: [AFMUG] "Low pass" attenuator

2023-07-11 Thread dmmoffett
Exactly. We were testing a different brand of XGS-PON transceiver. It works fine, except clients stronger than about -14 don't connect. Our current brand alarms at -10, but functions as high as -7, so our design assumes -10 as a cutoff. We can go around and pad the hot ONT's, but it would be

Re: [AFMUG] This thing on?

2023-06-29 Thread dmmoffett
So the real news article was about floating artic ice being gone, and they say 80-85% of it is gone now. So they missed on the exact timing, but most of it is gone. The bit about the “end of humanity” was a clickbait headline someone attached to that. The kid thought a clickbait headline

Re: [AFMUG] Heat estimate

2023-06-27 Thread dmmoffett
cool -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2023 12:17 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Heat estimate Fans convert pretty much 100% to heat energy.

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