Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech SS's

2019-08-14 Thread Bill Prince
We fragged a port on 24V. bp On 8/14/2019 4:13 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I have only heard of the Netonix having the problem.  And probably only at 48 volts. 

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech SS's

2019-08-14 Thread chuck
No, I would rather them fail open than closed. At least you have a chance to keep service rolling that way. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 4:06 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech SS's I think it’s bad for the GDTs also if they just

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech SS's

2019-08-14 Thread chuck
I have only heard of the Netonix having the problem. And probably only at 48 volts. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 2:39 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech SS's I assume you are referring to the fact that the Netonix POE will supply

Re: [AFMUG] Reselling Electricity

2019-08-14 Thread Keefe John
There's a dump in my town that burns the gasses to make electricity. They sell power for cheaper than our power utility charges but you'd still have to pay to 'wheel' it across the utilities transmission network so it ends up costing more anyways.

Re: [AFMUG] Good UPS with a Physical switch

2019-08-14 Thread Sean Heskett
APC Smart-UPS XL On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 7:29 AM Paul McCall wrote: > The vast majority of our towers run on 48v power, but we have a couple > small towers that just have 110vac with a standard UPS. The UPSs we have > bought recently have this “momentary” type switch (digital blab la bla)

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech SS's

2019-08-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
I think it’s bad for the GDTs also if they just sit there conducting until you roll a truck. Depending on the amount of power they are dissipating. Like 1 amp with an arc voltage of 10 volts would be 10 watts. If on the other hand the POE shuts down and keeps cycling trying to come back up,

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech SS's

2019-08-14 Thread Mathew Howard
Well, you could short it out and see what happens... Most PoE bricks (like the kind that come with Cambium SMs, Ubiquiti, etc.) seem to be able to hand brief shorts just fine without damaging anything... on a lot of them the power light will blink if they're shorted. I don't know about the higher

Re: [AFMUG] Reselling Electricity

2019-08-14 Thread Lewis Bergman
That always seemd like it was one step above multi level marketing to me. On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 3:13 PM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > Has anyone here looking into becoming a reseller for a wholesale > electric company? > > The end-customer still gets service from

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech SS's

2019-08-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
I assume you are referring to the fact that the Netonix POE will supply enough voltage and/or current to keep the GDT arc alive once a lightning strike has triggered it. While the Packetflux soft fuse will trip, interrupt the arc, and then reset itself. So my question is about other types

[AFMUG] Reselling Electricity

2019-08-14 Thread Matt Hoppes
Has anyone here looking into becoming a reseller for a wholesale electric company? The end-customer still gets service from the main power company, but usually gets a better rate through a third-party reseller of another generation provider. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Hatch Chile ...best for Chile Rellenos

2019-08-14 Thread Jaime Solorza
We get them by gunny sack in Hatch around late August and early September. Mild and hot... On Wed, Aug 14, 2019, 1:18 PM Darren Shea wrote: > $70 for 5 pounds of Hatch Chiles? I’m glad I live in Texas – less than $2 > per pound for Hatch Chiles at my local HEB. > > > > My wife eagerly awaits

Re: [AFMUG] Locast

2019-08-14 Thread Daniel White
I guess I didn't realize that. Any IP stream is also easier to record and illegally distribute.  The studios fought VHS as well. https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/01/the-court-case-that-almost-made-it-illegal-to-tape-tv-shows/251107/ photograph Daniel White Co-Founder

Re: [AFMUG] IoT and LAN IPs

2019-08-14 Thread Steve Jones
The thought of 253 security vulnerabilities in a consumer environment makes me cringe, but thats going to be a massive revenue generator, even at .10 per connected device monthly support contract On Wed, Aug 14, 2019, 2:04 PM Darren Shea wrote: > Oh yeah, we’ve already run into this with

Re: [AFMUG] IoT and LAN IPs

2019-08-14 Thread Bill Prince
The easy fix is to flush your internet connected toilet(s) to clear all the used IPs. bp On 8/14/2019 10:39 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: With all the Internet enabled stuff people are putting in their

Re: [AFMUG] Hatch Chile ...best for Chile Rellenos

2019-08-14 Thread Darren Shea
$70 for 5 pounds of Hatch Chiles? I’m glad I live in Texas – less than $2 per pound for Hatch Chiles at my local HEB. My wife eagerly awaits the season because she loves my fresh Hatch Green Chile Salsa recipe – I swear she can finish a quart of it in a few days! From: AF

Re: [AFMUG] IoT and LAN IPs

2019-08-14 Thread Darren Shea
Oh yeah, we've already run into this with Cambium's ePMP line - their default DHCP setting in NAT mode uses a pool of 10 addresses, including the radio/gateway itself. If the subscriber's router is in bridged mode, they rapidly run out of internal IPs. It's an easy fix to pushthe size up to 50 or

Re: [AFMUG] Locast

2019-08-14 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, I get that argument, but this service only works if you have an in-market IP address... you're still watching the exact same channel you would be if you used an antenna, it's just changing how you get it. Granted there are ways around that, but if you're going to go to the hassle to make it

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech SS's

2019-08-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baptism_by_fire From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 12:38 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech SS's Meaning, never hurts to have one. From: Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, August 14,

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech SS's

2019-08-14 Thread Jason Wilson
Gas tubes work good with netonix? On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 10:39 AM wrote: > Meaning, never hurts to have one. > > *From:* Bill Prince > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 14, 2019 11:33 AM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech SS's > > > Meaning someone is going to get wet? > > > >

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech SS's

2019-08-14 Thread Mathew Howard
Oh, they definitely help. We have a few towers that radios were getting fried on 2-3 times a year, and after adding the surge suppressors, I don't think we've lost a single radio... had to replace a few SS cards, but that's a much more desirable problem. Of course most of those are the GIGE, not

[AFMUG] IoT and LAN IPs

2019-08-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
With all the Internet enabled stuff people are putting in their houses now, are conventional routers going to run out of LAN IP addresses? Yes, I know about IPv6 (and let's not unleash that holy war), also about smarthome hubs. But most people seem to be just buying stuff like fridges and

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech SS's

2019-08-14 Thread chuck
Meaning, never hurts to have one. From: Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 11:33 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech SS's Meaning someone is going to get wet? bp On 8/14/2019 10:31 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Surge suppressors are like baptism. From:

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech SS's

2019-08-14 Thread Bill Prince
Meaning someone is going to get wet? bp On 8/14/2019 10:31 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Surge suppressors are like baptism.    From: Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech SS's

2019-08-14 Thread chuck
Surge suppressors are like baptism. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 11:28 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech SS's Damn it Mathew! I really can't quantify the surge cards have or have not helped. I can say, though, where we have

Re: [AFMUG] Locast

2019-08-14 Thread chuck
It used to be illegal (probably still is) to import distant signals. So WTBS, WOR and WGN got around the rule by delaying the signal thus being the transmission of pre-recorded materials. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 11:19 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech SS's

2019-08-14 Thread Josh Luthman
Damn it Mathew! I really can't quantify the surge cards have or have not helped. I can say, though, where we have them it's definitely not hurting. I'd really prefer to have one card to make it simpler as well. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337

Re: [AFMUG] Locast

2019-08-14 Thread Robert Andrews
And exactly why when someone says they want to watch TV over a vpn I strongly discourage it. I cannot stop it but I know there is a big wiley coyote sledge hammer somewhere down the road... On 08/14/2019 10:19 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Probably why people were hacking Mikrotik routers to place

Re: [AFMUG] Locast

2019-08-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
Probably why people were hacking Mikrotik routers to place proxy servers on them. And why there are proxy server / VPN blacklists. From: AF On Behalf Of Cameron Crum Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 12:08 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Locast You'd have to

Re: [AFMUG] Locast

2019-08-14 Thread Cameron Crum
You'd have to have an IP in that region to watch outside of your market. They check every time you launch it. Not hard to do, but I'm guessing the average Joe wouldn't know how. On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 12:05 PM Daniel White wrote: > Because it breaks things like blackout for NFL games. NFL

Re: [AFMUG] Locast

2019-08-14 Thread Daniel White
Because it breaks things like blackout for NFL games.  NFL can't charge you for NFL network if you can watch the game you want on the local channel to the game if you are out of market.  This causes stress on the arrangement say CBS and the NFL have.  You could say FU its free... but the DMZ's

Re: [AFMUG] Locast

2019-08-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
Apparently dictated by regulations. https://www.fcc.gov/media/cable-carriage-broadcast-stations I didn’t realize local stations had to choose every 3 years between must-carry and retransmission-consent status. If they assert their must-carry rights, they cannot demand compensation.

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech SS's

2019-08-14 Thread chuck
Cheaper hmmm, have to fix that... From: Mathew Howard Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 10:11 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech SS's I started using the CAT6 for pretty much everything, unless it's a site where I've had problems with lightning damage

Re: [AFMUG] Locast

2019-08-14 Thread chuck
You would think... From: Mathew Howard Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 10:06 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Locast What I can't figure out, is why do they even care? Aren't all they doing is providing the local OTA channels to the same area that they're

Re: [AFMUG] way OT - Darth Vader Barbie

2019-08-14 Thread Cameron Crum
They are going to disappoint many fans by not making Leia's outfit "Jaba slave" Leia. On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 9:28 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > “Darth Vader Barbie is the goth girlfriend of your dreams” > > > > I was going to ask if this was a joke or for real (I can’t tell anymore). > > > >

Re: [AFMUG] 820 Support Help

2019-08-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
40 or 80 MHz channel? MC-ABC or external LAG? If it's 80 MHz, I assume external LAG since Cambium doesn't have SFP+ until the PTP850C comes out, and the combined capacity would exceed 1 Gbps. How are you measuring packet loss separately for each polarization? And you're sure it's at the RF

Re: [AFMUG] Hatch Chile ...best for Chile Rellenos

2019-08-14 Thread Cameron Crum
mm On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 9:24 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > https://www.hatch-green-chile.com/ > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Cloud based phone system.

2019-08-14 Thread Lewis Bergman
Brandon, We can offer you a single solution to do exactly what you need. Give us a call at 325-672-2422. https://advancedvoipsolutions.com/ On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 11:00 AM Brandon Yuchasz wrote: > Thanks Daniel, right now we are just looking for a simple system that has > a good track record.

Re: [AFMUG] mccowntech SS's

2019-08-14 Thread Mathew Howard
I started using the CAT6 for pretty much everything, unless it's a site where I've had problems with lightning damage in the past. It's just simpler to not have to worry about which one to use with which radio, and they're a bit cheaper, so that's nice too. On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 1:06 PM wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Locast

2019-08-14 Thread Mathew Howard
What I can't figure out, is why do they even care? Aren't all they doing is providing the local OTA channels to the same area that they're available to OTA? it's not like they're giving people access to channels in the wrong market... it seems like the broadcasters should be happy they're making

Re: [AFMUG] Cloud based phone system.

2019-08-14 Thread Brandon Yuchasz
Thanks Daniel, right now we are just looking for a simple system that has a good track record. Lots out there on a web search but it would be nice to have someone with some personal experience make a recommendation. Thanks, Brandon From: Daniel White [mailto:dwh...@atheral.com] Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] 820 Support Help

2019-08-14 Thread dave
Nate, That almost seems like a little more alignment may be needed. What does your link planner file say for recommended RX levels and it should show some other expected values as well? On 8/14/19 10:02 AM, Nate Burke wrote: It is an East/West Link.  The Radio that has the problems is facing

Re: [AFMUG] 820 Support Help

2019-08-14 Thread Nate Burke
It is an East/West Link. The Radio that has the problems is facing East. I have not been able to find any time correlation when it happens. Anytime between 7am and noon, way after sunrise. We put this link up in April. It replaced a Trango APEX 18ghz link, so it was just new radios on

[AFMUG] way OT - Darth Vader Barbie

2019-08-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
"Darth Vader Barbie is the goth girlfriend of your dreams" I was going to ask if this was a joke or for real (I can't tell anymore). https://www.dailydot.com/parsec/darth-vader-barbie-reactions/ but apparently it's for real

Re: [AFMUG] Good UPS with a Physical switch

2019-08-14 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Yeah ,go with the XL units.. Gino Villarini Founder/President @gvillarini t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204 m: [https://image.ibb.co/ctQ7jU/aeronet-logo.png] [https://image.ibb.co/noQeyp/inc500.png]

Re: [AFMUG] Good UPS with a Physical switch

2019-08-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
Are you sure it's the switch that's the problem? I have some old sites (up to 15 years) with APC Smart-UPS XL series (mostly SU1400RMXL) and one with a Tripp-Lite SU750XL and have not seen this. The closest I have seen is APC units that won't start back up on commercial power after the

Re: [AFMUG] 820 Support Help

2019-08-14 Thread Brian Webster
What time of day does this happen? Does it correlate with sunrise and sunset? Is this an East/West orientated link? Thank You, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com www.Broadband-Mapping.com From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of dave

Re: [AFMUG] Good UPS with a Physical switch

2019-08-14 Thread Colin Stanners
All UPS are controlled by a microprocessor, so it's a rare design decision to put a rocker switch. If a UPS turns off, that's a definite problem with the microprocessor or hardware, that requires replacement. On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 8:29 AM Paul McCall wrote: > The vast majority of our towers

[AFMUG] Good UPS with a Physical switch

2019-08-14 Thread Paul McCall
The vast majority of our towers run on 48v power, but we have a couple small towers that just have 110vac with a standard UPS. The UPSs we have bought recently have this "momentary" type switch (digital blab la bla) and sometimes they will just turn off. Maybe there is a slight surge or

Re: [AFMUG] 820 Support Help

2019-08-14 Thread dave
have a look at the MSE stats which is kind of a SNR value.. since I run dual core xpic mode this is very helpful in determining interference. Hopefully you have a base line of when it was installed to compare notes because this will certainly let you know if something has changed drastically