Re: [AFMUG] OT - Trump to issue pardons

It was back in the Reagan era that news was let off the hook for actual fact reporting..  There used to be a law.  Yes some laws are good, removing them should not be the objective of either of our parties. On 11/24/20 4:41 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: Mainstream news hasn't been anything other

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: covid tracing

No. I am. bp On 11/24/2020 3:22 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Yes.  I was the Last Starfighter.   From: AF On Behalf Of James Howard

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Trump to issue pardons

Fox actually went to court to prove they werent journalists, so that arguments out the window with your xenophobic anti immigrant trope On Tue, Nov 24, 2020, 6:42 PM Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > Mainstream news hasn't been anything other than entertainment > loosely

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Trump to issue pardons

Mainstream news hasn't been anything other than entertainment loosely based on real life for quite some time before Drumpf. Fox news has pretty much led the pack as far as that goes. On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 6:28 PM Steve Jones wrote: > When trump is no longer potus whether that be 2 months, 4

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Trump to issue pardons

When trump is no longer potus whether that be 2 months, 4 years or 8 years, the media is going to have a major reckoning to deal with. Nobody looks at them as legitimate journalists anymore so if they dont deliver the hashtag soundbite that's expected of them, their ratings will drop well below

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Trump to issue pardons

More on this story, turns out when he pardoned Peas and Carrots, Carrots lost the election but refused to concede and demanded a recount. Can’t make this stuff up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LedDTrWGWeg From: AF On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 3:48 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: covid tracing

theyve been saying the side effect is comparable to a hangover since day one. the media is just on a campaign to sow more chaos. theyll be doing this nonsense til jan 21. the interviews with the people who actually took it, you know, the ones who actually know said its not bad. but the media will

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: covid tracing

Yes. I was the Last Starfighter. From: AF On Behalf Of James Howard Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 4:51 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ot: covid tracing I seem to recall an X-Files episode about the alien nature of those scars you’re describing Ken…….

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: covid tracing

I seem to recall an X-Files episode about the alien nature of those scars you’re describing Ken……. So you’re telling us you were abducted? From: AF On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 4:00 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ot: covid tracing

Re: [AFMUG] Utah monolith

So you're saying it's a bidet? From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 4:10 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Utah monolith There was a femur laying next to it and some chimp scat. From: AF

Re: [AFMUG] Utah monolith

There was a femur laying next to it and some chimp scat. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 12:47 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: [AFMUG] Utah monolith So what's with the monolith in the Utah desert? I'm

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: covid tracing

I, along with many people my age, have a coin sized scar on my upper arm from a smallpox vaccination as a kid. They jabbed you multiple times with a needle, then you got a blister that turned into a scab that eventually fell off and left a scar. People today are wusses. Wow, I might feel

Re: [AFMUG] OT - Trump to issue pardons

And then the media has to ruin it: https://www.politico.com/story/2018/11/20/trumps-turkey-pardon-isnt-much-of-a-pardon-at-all-985448 From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 7:29 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - Trump to issue

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: covid tracing

This will be a real issue for these vaccines..   https://gvwire.com/2020/11/23/doctors-say-side-effects-from-covid-vaccine-shots-wont-be-a-walk-in-the-park/ On 11/24/20 7:59 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I read an article* saying some in China who need a certificate to travel or work get both shots

Re: [AFMUG] Utah monolith

In all their travels throughout the galaxies they never found anything more precious than Mind ...but they skipped Earth. On Tue, Nov 24, 2020, 1:26 PM Bill Prince wrote: > I pick R (the next one after Q). > > bp > > > On 11/24/2020 12:22 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > > While interesting, it

Re: [AFMUG] Utah monolith

I pick R (the next one after Q). bp On 11/24/2020 12:22 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote: While interesting, it screws up the natural scenery. There isn't a whole lot you can do to improve the big guy upstairs. Or girl, or whatever

Re: [AFMUG] Utah monolith

While interesting, it screws up the natural scenery. There isn't a whole lot you can do to improve the big guy upstairs. Or girl, or whatever letter you want to assign them. On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 2:04 PM Bruce Robertson wrote: > It can't be related to 2001. Its dimensions clearly aren't

Re: [AFMUG] Utah monolith

It can't be related to 2001.  Its dimensions clearly aren't 1x4x9. On 11/24/20 11:57 AM, Bill Prince wrote: My vote is for someone's art project. OTOH, maybe it's from Hugo Chavez. The metal monolith found in a remote part of Utah. bp On 11/24/2020 11:47 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: So what’s

Re: [AFMUG] Utah monolith

Someone has already posted the location on reddit. Apparently there’s a 4 wheeler trail nearby. Not as “remote” as they made it sound. > On Nov 24, 2020, at 12:57 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > > My vote is for someone's art project. > > OTOH, maybe it's from Hugo Chavez. > > > > bp > > On

Re: [AFMUG] Utah monolith

My vote is for someone's art project. OTOH, maybe it's from Hugo Chavez. bp On 11/24/2020 11:47 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: So what’s with the monolith in the Utah desert?  I’m seeing alliterative headlines like

Re: [AFMUG] Utah monolith

it looks pretty cool. the pilot and other guys seemed to have fun with it. I think its their DNR put out a funny little video. I hope they never identify the exact location of it, trendy tourists will show up with litter and spray paint acab on it, best to leave that little gem alone On Tue, Nov

[AFMUG] Utah monolith

So what's with the monolith in the Utah desert? I'm seeing alliterative headlines like "Mysterious Metal Monolith found in remote Utah desert". Seems like something Jaime would post. One of the articles said if it was art, the laws don't allow anyone to install art in the desert, no matter what

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium PMP v20

Very interesting, thanks for the info.Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: Aaron Schneider via AF Date: 11/24/20 12:32 PM (GMT-05:00) To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Aaron Schneider Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

I have considered adding a small galvanizing pot. I will probably continue to “consider” it. They take lots of energy, lots of baths of cleaning and pickling stuff that probably are hazardous waste. Sure would be handy though. I did add a water jet a month ago. Should have done that

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

They sell a lot of name brand safety, climbing and rigging supplies. But yes most of their tower steel is their own Valmont stuff. Sitepro1 I think basically started out as Valmont’s online store. I believe they also own PiRod Towers. There was also Connect-It Wireless (ciwireless.com)

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

If they wanted to they would just knock off all my stuff. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 9:41 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24 maybe you lease your designs to them

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

maybe you lease your designs to them and sit back, collect royalties when your not diving into your piles of gold coins like scrooge mcduck? On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 10:32 AM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > It is their own stuff (Valmont) as far as the steel stuff goes. They own > massive

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

It is their own stuff (Valmont) as far as the steel stuff goes. They own massive galvanization plants which gives them a pretty good advantage cost wise. From: Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 9:28 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

Is sitepro stuff all their own stuff or are they resale? Can they carry McCown tech goods? Or do they require massive volume? IIRC they are shipping rapists though On Tue, Nov 24, 2020, 10:16 AM Josh Luthman wrote: > OK, I'll be patient and wait another 2-3 weeks to hit that 8 week + > shipping

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

OK, I'll be patient and wait another 2-3 weeks to hit that 8 week + shipping mark. Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 10:12 AM Chuck McCown wrote: > Streakwave is pretty much the only distributor that

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: covid tracing

Never know, the china vaccine might be the best if it was made in the same lab as the virus. We have a weird antivaxxer set this time around. Trump people wont take it if biden releases it, biden people wont take it if trump releases it. Then theres karen who already has her vaccine injury lawsuit

Re: [AFMUG] OT: And so the transition begins

Jan 21. Then the book deals start. Book deals being code for payments. You can wash a lot of dirty money at better rates than saul on the corner with book sales. On Tue, Nov 24, 2020, 9:30 AM Bill Prince wrote: > When do the old leaks stop? > > bp > > > On 11/23/2020 5:27 PM, Steve Jones

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: covid tracing

I can tell you why it's only 25 per day they just broke ground two weeks ago on a new facility and wanna bet some money magically appeared for some real nice art and leather furniture in the director's office. The arena center capacity was originally 250 tests a day, they rarely went over

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: covid tracing

I read an article* saying some in China who need a certificate to travel or work get both shots at the same time, one in each arm. Sure, why not. We don’t need it to actually work, do we? *add skepticism to taste From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 9:43

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: covid tracing

Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 From: "Steve Jones" > ... before we have herd vaccination in 2.5 months. Cue the anti-vaxxers. Time to break out the popcorn? Jared -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: covid tracing

The articles I've read stated "dose" is course since it's two half doses of the full vaccine, could be they dont know what they're writing about. And that's preauthorization production, they will all ramp up once there is approval. Dont know where you get the 20 million number unless that was

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: covid tracing

Most of the state run drive-thru testing sites can do 600 tests per day. Unfortunately that means many of them open at 7am and start turning away cars at 7:30. You may be right that you then wait hours in line. Not sure why they would set up a site by you that can only do 25 per day. Maybe

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: covid tracing

All the vaccines so far require 2 doses to become effective, and the numbers I heard were more like 20 million per vaccine, so that's 60 million divided by 2, so 30 million. And that is going to mainly go to healthcare workers and high risk. I don't expect things

Re: [AFMUG] OT: And so the transition begins

When do the old leaks stop? bp On 11/23/2020 5:27 PM, Steve Jones wrote: When do the intelligence leaks begin On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 7:10 PM Seth Mattinen wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

Streakwave is pretty much the only distributor that has significant quantities of steel stuff on their shelf. Everyone else tries to drop ship and that only works if I happen to have stock. Usually I have to build the drop ship orders which is a minimum of 2 weeks and can be as much as 8

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: covid tracing

With the three vaccines ready to roll out 90 million inoculations in the US this year it may be moot because kit production probably wont be able to meet demand before we have herd vaccination in 2.5 months. But these new home test kits, assuming there is any reliability to them, would have been

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

Woof. Hopefully they come in soon. In our case we don't bother with the MTOW6 any more. The MTOW10 is better functionally and I think the same price, or at least close enough that it makes no sense for us to stock two sizes. 2/3/4 Pipes I think make sense, but I've done exclusively, or nearly,

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

Up to 8 weeks depending on how backed up the galvanized is. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 24, 2020, at 6:18 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > >  > Right but when it's 6 weeks short? How can you simply not have stock for so > long. And it seems like no one has them now, so how long is the build from

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

You could contact your rep at your favorite distributor and request that they stock certain items. Either the distributors or Chuck seem like they’re waiting for a minimum economic order quantity before ordering or making more. It seems to me that Chuck probably has too many different

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: covid tracing

They should stop talking about contact tracing as if it's working, it only works if you have orders of magnitude less cases than we have now. There is the containment phase, mitigation phase, then who let the dogs out. Guess which phase we're in. At this point, contact tracing is pretty

Re: [AFMUG] ***SPAM*** starlink details

Ever tried to outsmart a squirrel? From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 11:08 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ***SPAM*** starlink details Active denial built in. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 23, 2020,

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: covid tracing

Jelly roll must not own any stock in the apps or he would be mandating them On Tue, Nov 24, 2020, 7:25 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > Any test that takes longer than 48 hours is pointless. > > Our esteemed governor doesn't seem to have any efforts under way to take > advantage of the contract tracing

Re: [AFMUG] Dhcp-relay into ospf

We summarize the ospf routes and use microtik filters. So the routes still get advertised via OSPF, just not for each individual customer dhcp lease. From: AF on behalf of Dennis Burgess via AF Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Tuesday, November 24, 2020 at 8:39 AM To:

Re: [AFMUG] Dhcp-relay into ospf

They should be static routes, so you should not have to distribute connected. [LTI-Full_175px] Dennis Burgess Mikrotik : Trainer, Network Associate, Routing Engineer, Wireless Engineer, Traffic Control Engineer, Inter-Networking Engineer, Security Engineer, Enterprise Wireless Engineer

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: covid tracing

Any test that takes longer than 48 hours is pointless. Our esteemed governor doesn't seem to have any efforts under way to take advantage of the contract tracing APIs that our phones now support. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The

Re: [AFMUG] Source for 2x M-TOW-P-24

Right but when it's 6 weeks short? How can you simply not have stock for so long. And it seems like no one has them now, so how long is the build from order to ship? On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 7:16 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > I honestly don’t know why there is ever a shortage of our products

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: covid tracing

I'm currently visiting the Philippines and in the city I'm in (thankfully far away from manila) you are not allowed outside unless you wear a mask with a plastic face shield over the mask the city I'm in has 60 cases and recovering and the city is fully open wearing a mask works but only if

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium PMP v20

Wait, false alarm. This example in the manual confused me.  Zoom was just a text description for DSCP 45.  It's not obvious to me what this feature does that the existing DiffServ feature didn't do. On 11/24/2020 5:19 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: Did anybody notice that software release 20.0 has

[AFMUG] Cambium PMP v20

Did anybody notice that software release 20.0 has a feature to give Zoom high priority? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Ot: covid tracing

Don’t be too relaxed with it. I have a friend who just collapsed in church on Sunday from Covid. Just singing along and his heart stopped. Perfectly healthy, outside active guy. They gave him CPR and last I knew he’s still alive in the hospital. He was a staunch anti masker. This is a