Re: [AFMUG] af11x

2020-05-09 Thread Chuck Macenski
gt; *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com >> *Sent:* Saturday, May 9, 2020 3:58 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] af11x >> >> >> >> $999 for a single radio, where a kit is $1500 for two radios and all the &

Re: [AFMUG] af11x

2020-05-09 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
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Re: [AFMUG] af11x

2020-05-09 Thread Chuck Macenski
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Re: [AFMUG] af11x

2020-05-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
: Re: [AFMUG] af11x $999 for a single radio, where a kit is $1500 for two radios and all the trimmings? From: Chuck Macenski Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 2:44 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] af11x In stock: https://store.ui.com/collections/operator

Re: [AFMUG] af11x

2020-05-09 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
wo radios and all the > trimmings? > > From: Chuck Macenski <> > Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 2:44 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] af11x > > In stock: > https://store.ui.com/collections/operator-airfiber/products/af-

Re: [AFMUG] af11x

2020-05-09 Thread Chuck Macenski
I just do the technical stuff. On Sat, May 9, 2020 at 3:59 PM wrote: > $999 for a single radio, where a kit is $1500 for two radios and all the > trimmings? > > *From:* Chuck Macenski > *Sent:* Saturday, May 9, 2020 2:44 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subjec

Re: [AFMUG] af11x

2020-05-09 Thread Steve Jones
2020 7:34 AM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] af11x > > > I don’t have any AF11X and may be remembering wrong, but I think you > basically have to coordinate dual pol, for single pol performance. So if > you’re in a congested area, it might be marginally more

Re: [AFMUG] af11x

2020-05-09 Thread Chuck Macenski
westix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> -- >> *From: *"Mathew Howard&

Re: [AFMUG] af11x

2020-05-09 Thread Mathew Howard
t; > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -- > *From: *"Mathew Howard" > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave User

Re: [AFMUG] af11x

2020-05-09 Thread Mike Hammett
Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Mathew Howard" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 11:18:56 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] af11x Well, in theory, the AF11 will be available with

Re: [AFMUG] af11x

2020-05-09 Thread Mathew Howard
.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------ > *From: *"Mathew Howard" > *To:

Re: [AFMUG] af11x

2020-05-09 Thread chuck
Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] af11x FCC fine would wipe out the cost savings many times over. Plus your picture on the wanted posters at every post office. From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 10:02 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG

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2020-05-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
FCC fine would wipe out the cost savings many times over. Plus your picture on the wanted posters at every post office. From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 10:02 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] af11x Man I wish I had saved

Re: [AFMUG] af11x

2020-05-09 Thread chuck
9, 2020 8:43 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] af11x How much more is it, though, for better radios if you need the better dishes, yet have to buy the Ubiquiti dishes anyway? AF11 kit with dishes (that you'll just throw away) N to waveguide adapters Good dish vs

Re: [AFMUG] af11x

2020-05-09 Thread Mike Hammett
Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Mathew Howard" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 9:21:00 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] af11x I used Comsearch for the last few we did... the price w

Re: [AFMUG] af11x

2020-05-09 Thread Mathew Howard
Microwave Users Group' > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] af11x > > > I don’t have any AF11X and may be remembering wrong, but I think you > basically have to coordinate dual pol, for single pol performance. So if > you’re in a congested area, it might be marginally more difficult to &g

Re: [AFMUG] af11x

2020-05-09 Thread chuck
So is Liz still the best value for freq coordination and license prep? From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2020 7:34 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] af11x I don’t have any AF11X and may be remembering wrong, but I think you basically have to coordinate dual

Re: [AFMUG] af11x

2020-05-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
: Re: [AFMUG] af11x Thanks. Sent from my iPhone On May 8, 2020, at 11:01 PM, Mathew Howard mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com> > wrote:  The kit is available with high band duplexers. But yeah, last I checked, the AF11 is still only in stock anywhere in kit form, so it makes sense t

Re: [AFMUG] af11x

2020-05-09 Thread Chuck McCown
gt; >>> >>> >>> On 5/8/20 4:41 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >>>> $4K, both radios, both antennas and a license? >>>> >>>> From: Jesse DuPont >>>> Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 4:39 PM >>>> To: AnimalFarm Mic

Re: [AFMUG] af11x

2020-05-08 Thread Mathew Howard
roadband >> >> >> On 5/8/20 4:41 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: >> >> $4K, both radios, both antennas and a license? >> >> *From:* Jesse DuPont >> *Sent:* Friday, May 8, 2020 4:39 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; ch...@wbmfg.com &

Re: [AFMUG] af11x

2020-05-08 Thread Jason Wilson
a license? > > *From:* Jesse DuPont > *Sent:* Friday, May 8, 2020 4:39 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; ch...@wbmfg.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] af11x > > About $4K, 700 Mbps. Open freqs completely depends on your location. Might > have to upgrade antennas. >

Re: [AFMUG] af11x

2020-05-08 Thread Jesse DuPont
Microwave Users Group ; ch...@wbmfg.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] af11x   About $4K, 700 Mbps. Open freqs completely depends on your location. Might have to upgrad

Re: [AFMUG] af11x

2020-05-08 Thread chuck
$4K, both radios, both antennas and a license? From: Jesse DuPont Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 4:39 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group ; ch...@wbmfg.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] af11x About $4K, 700 Mbps. Open freqs completely depends on your location. Might have to upgrade antennas.  Jesse

Re: [AFMUG] af11x

2020-05-08 Thread Jesse DuPont
About $4K, 700 Mbps. Open freqs completely depends on your location. Might have to upgrade antennas.  Jesse DuPont Owner / Network

Re: [AFMUG] af11x

2020-05-08 Thread chuck
I am already regretting building some microwave due to the fact my fiber is not there yet... From: Steve Jones Sent: Friday, May 8, 2020 3:35 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] af11x are you talking about cost in money or cost in regret? On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 4:27

Re: [AFMUG] af11x

2020-05-08 Thread Steve Jones
are you talking about cost in money or cost in regret? On Fri, May 8, 2020 at 4:27 PM wrote: > What is the cost, all in, license, antennas, everything for a system that > will do 7 miles? > What throughput will that have? > How likely is it to find an open frequency? > -- > AF mailing list >

[AFMUG] af11x

2020-05-08 Thread chuck
What is the cost, all in, license, antennas, everything for a system that will do 7 miles? What throughput will that have? How likely is it to find an open frequency?-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x

2018-07-19 Thread Mitch Koep
Dragonwave from what I can find Mitch On 7/19/2018 9:43 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: So what current product current release radio has the best throughput in the 11 GHz band? *From:* Adam Moffett *Sent:* Thursday, July 19, 2018 8:04 AM *To:* af@af.afmug.com *Subject:* [AFMUG] AF11x So I just

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x

2018-07-19 Thread Rory Conaway
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11x What does an aviat link cost? The alfoplus2 is about $15k a link, the regular alfoplus used to be a solid deal, not as much anymore. On Thursday, July 19, 2018, Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: SIAE I believe will b

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x

2018-07-19 Thread Jason McKemie
Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------ > *From: *ch...@wbmfg.com > *To: *af@af.afmug.com > *Sent: *Thursday, Jul

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x

2018-07-19 Thread Mike Hammett
lFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 9:48:06 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11x The 1.2Gbps claim is aggregate... it's somewhat deceptive marketing, that UBNT has been doing for years. It's factually correct, but as far as I know, nobody else markets full duplex radios t

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x

2018-07-19 Thread Mike Hammett
M Subject: [AFMUG] AF11x So I just read up about the AF11x. I haven't been paying much attention to this product because I've been busy with other things. The datasheet claims "best spectral efficiency in class" and "1.2gbps". Various people on the forum made claims t

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x

2018-07-19 Thread chuck
You can combine multiple radios into one dish but the cost of circulators, hybrid combiners and filters would cost more that the extra dishes. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 8:48 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF11x The 1.2Gbps claim

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x

2018-07-19 Thread Mathew Howard
z band? > > *From:* Adam Moffett > *Sent:* Thursday, July 19, 2018 8:04 AM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* [AFMUG] AF11x > > So I just read up about the AF11x. I haven't been paying much attention > to this product because I've been busy with other things. > >

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x

2018-07-19 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
radio has the best throughput in the > 11 GHz band? > > From: Adam Moffett <> > Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 8:04 AM > To: af@af.afmug.com <> > Subject: [AFMUG] AF11x > > So I just read up about the AF11x. I haven't been paying much attention to > this

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x

2018-07-19 Thread Mathew Howard
The 1.2Gbps claim is aggregate... it's somewhat deceptive marketing, that UBNT has been doing for years. It's factually correct, but as far as I know, nobody else markets full duplex radios that way. 22% less than throughput at any giving modulations compared to competing products (with the

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x

2018-07-19 Thread chuck
So what current product current release radio has the best throughput in the 11 GHz band? From: Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 8:04 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] AF11x So I just read up about the AF11x. I haven't been paying much attention to this product because I've

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x

2018-07-19 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 7/19/18 7:04 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: It seems the only thing it really has going for it is being very inexpensive. I see it pretty much as a My First Microwave. Almost anything else outperforms it, but costs more. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com

[AFMUG] AF11x

2018-07-19 Thread Adam Moffett
So I just read up about the AF11x.  I haven't been paying much attention to this product because I've been busy with other things. The datasheet claims "best spectral efficiency in class" and "1.2gbps". Various people on the forum made claims that don't match up with simple comparisons of spec

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x to whatever adapters

2018-07-05 Thread Richard Strittmatter
[mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2018 11:46 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] AF11x to whatever adapters We are actually in production this week on these things. After a year of prototype and beta unit shipping we finally found the time to get

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x to whatever adapters

2018-07-05 Thread Jaime Solorza
Duplexors in high demand Jaime Solorza On Thu, Jul 5, 2018, 10:47 AM wrote: > We are actually in production this week on these things. > After a year of prototype and beta unit shipping we finally found the time > to get it going. I know there are a lot of people waiting. > > We have AF11X to

[AFMUG] AF11x to whatever adapters

2018-07-05 Thread chuck
We are actually in production this week on these things. After a year of prototype and beta unit shipping we finally found the time to get it going. I know there are a lot of people waiting. We have AF11X to Remec actually shipping. Dragonwave and Andrews VLP are right behind it. Then