I just order the Grandstream NVR. Hopefully I can get into it remotely.
From: Brett A Mansfield
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 11:09 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Cameras again
UBNTs new cameras are really nice quality in both materials and picture. They
also now include the
http://www.grandstream.com/products/general/documents/integrating_surveillance_with_an_ip_pbx_web.pdf
From: mailto:p...@believewireless.net
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 12:32 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Cameras again
Yes, we have them integrated into Asterisk as well. Our
Yes, you can setup a port forward and view it remotely. As for an app, I
use IP Cam Viewer
on iPhone and iPad to view the cameras. I was using it before we started
using Grandstream
so I just added the cameras to it.
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:16 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I just
GVX3610 HD FHD, GVX2663 HD FHD, FXV3672 FHD 36,
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote:
We use Grandstream. Works great and cheap.
Which model?
If you want to place calls to/from the PSTN and not pay a dime, you're
dreaming.
-Original Message-
From: Brett A Mansfield
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 1:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] VoIP
I've played a bit with asterisk in the past along with similar products. I'm
not
Depends on models...the Pro Turbo series is pretty amazing at night. big
difference between an Axis IP camera at several hundred dollars and Turbo
Camera CCTV at 239.00 list price. I know this from personally installing
the Axis at district over the years and recently installing the Turbos at
Well, I have an axis somewhere around here and have ordered the grandstreams.
We will be able to compare soon.
From: Jaime Solorza
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 12:22 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Cameras again
Depends on models...the Pro Turbo series is pretty amazing at night.
It was fixed over the weekend. This was discussed on NANOG.
On April 6, 2015 10:24:22 AM AKDT, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/04/google-let-root-certificate-for-gmail-expire-causing-e-mail-hiccups/
Did anyone have problems with your outbound
nope
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/04/google-let-root-
certificate-for-gmail-expire-causing-e-mail-hiccups/
Did anyone have problems with your
Can you also listen through the camera and use it as a speaker phone?
From: mailto:p...@believewireless.net
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 11:32 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Cameras again
Yes, we have them integrated into Asterisk as well. Our intercom on the phones
outputs
to
I've played a bit with asterisk in the past along with similar products. I'm
not really all that familiar with VoIP solutions or configuration, but if like
to be. I want to start playing around with something to really familiarize
myself with it.
The problem is that all I've seen is solutions
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/04/google-let-root-certificate-for-gmail-expire-causing-e-mail-hiccups/
Did anyone have problems with your outbound GMail being rejected for an
invalid certificate Saturday morning?
Yes, we have them integrated into Asterisk as well. Our intercom on the
phones outputs
to the cameras that have an amp and loudspeaker to broadcast outside as
well.
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Hmmm, I wonder if my asterisk can be taught the same trick?
Hmmm, I wonder if my asterisk can be taught the same trick?
From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 11:24 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Cameras again
If you want to stay with the Grandstream ecosystem, I think they have
integration with their VoIP stuff, so you can do
On 6 April 2015 at 17:15, Charles Boening charl...@calore.net wrote:
We just put in some Hikvision with their NVR. Outdoor 3MP bullet
cameras run about $200 on Amazon. The dome ones are about $120. Quality
is pretty decent. They have an app for mobile devices so you can view
cameras
I expect there to be some cost, but these companies that want a fortune for a
small amount of minutes are ridiculous. I'm okay with paying some amount for
unlimited, but not a small amount per minute.
Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield
On Apr 6, 2015, at 1:26 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
It could be a combination of the Ccr and planet. I just pray I don't have
to reboot the Ccr because I know it will be a long night.
On Apr 5, 2015 7:45 PM, Jason McKemie j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com
wrote:
So, in summary, it is probably the CCR or a combination of the CCR and the
planet?
We use Grandstream. Works great and cheap.
Which model?
Looking for a fixed camera to mount on our towers. Would like it to
FTP out a snap shot every 60 seconds for our website. Using Ubiquiti
now and would like something a little better. but not 20X the cost.
I was pretty sure I'd seen examples of asterisk connected to Google
Voice. The paid version of that can call the PSTN. Not free, but
certainly cheap.
On 4/6/2015 2:19 PM, Brett A Mansfield wrote:
I've played a bit with asterisk in the past along with similar products. I'm
not really all
This is a 450G on 6.19.
The main symptom is port up/down events in the log.
If it's bad enough, the router will start showing that it is only
advertising 10M to the peer, and the status will go to 10M.
-Original Message-
From: George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
Sent: Monday, April
June 2013... https://wiki.asterisk.org/wiki/display/AST/Calling+using+Google
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Adam Moffett dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote:
I was pretty sure I'd seen examples of asterisk
Replace it with a 750GL?
On 4/6/2015 2:52 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
This is a 450G on 6.19.
The main symptom is port up/down events in the log.
If it's bad enough, the router will start showing that it is only
advertising 10M to the peer, and the status will go to 10M.
-Original
I have other sites with 450G and 493G in same configuration, also 2011. So
I'm thinking it's something else, or a bad router. If I were to replace it
with something else, I have an 850Gx2 sitting here. But this site only has
one AP, so that would be overkill. It doesn't look like this site
I have two 10/100 SyncInjectors at two sites. One is a RB1100AHx2 still
on v5.25. The other is a RB493G on v6.21.1. I don't see any negotiation
issues or CRC/FCS errors, etc.
Also, I don't think the GigE PoE on the 450 uses all 8 wires for power,
still only 4, 5, 7 8 are powered.
On
I agree, at least try to figure it out. I would replace the RB and see
what happens. Never rule out MikroTik ethernet being stupid!
On 4/6/2015 3:12 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I have other sites with 450G and 493G in same configuration, also
2011. So I'm thinking it's something else, or a bad
Never, ever ever.
Josh
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 4:20 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
geo...@cbcast.com wrote:
I agree, at least try to figure it out. I would replace the RB and see
what happens. Never rule out MikroTik ethernet being stupid!
On 4/6/2015 3:12 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I
Jive, fortivoice (they sell the trunks too) broadvox sold, there are a ton
of inexpensive providers especially when compared to copper voice lines
On Apr 6, 2015 1:33 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
You call up you local telephone company and ask for a sip trunk...
-Original
I have an Obihai box connected through Google voice. Not a SIP phone,
but it works really well, and it costs virtually nothing. Calls are
essentially free if they're domestic, and international calls are pretty
cheap. The Obihai box cost $50 or $60 IIRC.
bp
part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
On
wrong slide
-Ty
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
wrote:
opps wrong slide
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
wrote:
most impressive ones I have seen were
I don’t know about most, but we will.
From: Lewis Bergman
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 3:56 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VoIP
I had no idea that most phone companies would sell you a SIP trunk. nifty.
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
You call
If you are local to our exchange.
From: James Howard
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 4:31 PM
To: mailto:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VoIP
Will you sell SIP trunks to anyone? What do you charge for them?
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday,
Ah... then they've changed that. It's been a couple years.
You don't really need to be afraid of international. First of all, the
rates to most countries these days are competitive with US termination.
Also, most systems let you install a dollar limit on international.
Don't remember if
Is this something you are trying to sell to customers or just for internal
use? That one fact makes a pretty big difference in many of the choices you
could make.
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Brett A Mansfield
li...@silverlakeinternet.com wrote:
I've played a bit with asterisk in the past
I had no idea that most phone companies would sell you a SIP trunk. nifty.
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:33 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
You call up you local telephone company and ask for a sip trunk...
-Original Message- From: Brett A Mansfield
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015
Just an update. The $35 'Gaming' keyboard from Frys that touted
simultaneous keypresses didn't I ended up with the Gigabyte
Osmium keyboard and it's working perfectly. Now I'm just awaiting my
copy of GTA5 to be delivered next week. We'll see how buggy the initial
release is
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2015/04/06/radio-bursts-from-space-reveal-strange-mathematical-pattern/
Jaime Solorza
From VoIP Innovations website:
We deliver high-quality and competitive A-Z International Wholesale Termination
to fixed and mobile destinations in over 200 countries. Our International
Termination offering also has built-in state-of-the-art fraud protection
equipped with features like call
Well, OK, if you mean outdoor displays, there’s the one in Times Square:
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/north-americas-biggest-billboard-lighting-625k-week/story?id=26967487
From: Ty Featherling
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 4:42 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT - ultrawide displays
I'd paint it OD green or black or something and roll all over the place.
On Monday, April 6, 2015, e...@kuhnke-international.com
e...@kuhnke-international.com wrote:
Yes... Holds a great deal more internal volume than a jeep with the
seats out.
In BC with constant rain much more useful
Why not get SIP trunk, origination, termination, and DIDs from voip.ms or
similar? We use VoIP Innovations but they have a $200/mo minimum. It looks
like voip.ms has no monthly minimum, there is a $25 deposit which you replenish
when you use it up.
Assuming you have existing numbers you want
Rory Conaway
Triad Wireless
4226 S. 37th Street
Phoenix, Az. 85040
602-426-0542
www.triadwireless.nethttp://www.triadwireless.net
r...@triadwireless.netmailto:r...@triadwireless.net
Yes... Holds a great deal more internal volume than a jeep with the seats out.
In BC with constant rain much more useful than a pickup with a canopy.
I can fit a full height 42U x 38 depth rack cabinet in it laying down.
On April 6, 2015 at 9:59 AM Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org wrote:
I use voip.ms. Love 'em.
On 04/06/2015 03:55 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Why not get SIP trunk, origination, termination, and DIDs from voip.ms
or similar? We use VoIP Innovations but they have a $200/mo minimum.
It looks like voip.ms has no monthly minimum, there is a $25 deposit
which you
GVX3610 HD FHD, GVX2663 HD FHD, FXV3672 FHD 36,
Which lens do you get on 3672, 3.6 or 8mm? Looking down at a town
from 200 foot tower is one of our locations.
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote:
We use Grandstream. Works great and cheap.
Which model?
This is not something I want to sell. I want to use it for the phone systems of
4 different companies that I and my brothers own (we each own one of them, not
all of them together).
Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield
On Apr 6, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Lewis Bergman lewis.berg...@gmail.com wrote:
Is
I can buy those!?
On 4/6/2015 4:38 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
most impressive ones I have seen were
at ATT Stadium
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com
mailto:af...@kwisp.com wrote:
I did not know such things
Pretty $ure
Jaime Solorza
On Apr 6, 2015 4:47 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
geo...@cbcast.com wrote:
I can buy those!?
On 4/6/2015 4:38 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
most impressive ones I have seen were
at ATT Stadium
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390
On
VoIP Innovations is also nice, but I just can't justify the $200/mo
minimum at the moment. So... I guess I agree with you!
One consideration though... VoIP Innovations does not do international
termination, or at least they didn't at one time.
On 04/06/2015 04:28 PM, Paul Stewart wrote:
I
I stick with Corsair K95 keyboards. Full mechanical and 18 key gamepad.
I now have two of them.
On 04/06/2015 02:23 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
Just an update. The $35 'Gaming' keyboard from Frys that touted
simultaneous keypresses didn't I ended up with the Gigabyte
Osmium keyboard and
Will you sell SIP trunks to anyone? What do you charge for them?
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2015 5:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] VoIP
I don’t know about most, but we will.
From: Lewis
I use voip.ms for a couple of residential connections …. They work well given
the price of their service etc.
I would not entrust their service for important business “phone lines” however
…. Just my opinion. I would much rather have my business connections served by
a company that has
Also, on voip.ms you can enable international on a per-extension basis,
so you can leave it disabled until a customer asks for it.
On 04/06/2015 05:01 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
From VoIP Innovations website:
We deliver high-quality and competitive A-Z International Wholesale
Termination to fixed
Rory,
I just sent you an email.
Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291
2015-04-06 16:12 GMT-05:00 Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net:
Rory Conaway
Triad Wireless
4226 S. 37th Street
Phoenix, Az. 85040
602-426-0542
You’ve got to charge for something. It has become standard practice not to
charge for minutes, even though you get charged for minutes. So some
combination of $X per DID and $Y per extension. Especially when you are
talking to businesses, they are used to paying per “line”, where if they
With the technology we have today, why do we still use the PSTN?
Does anyone know if Anyone has VoIP provider to another VoIP provider
discounts?
I also need a multi-tenant platform. Something I'd like to do is have each cell
phone be a virtual extension without having to pay monthly for
We have been using BICOM SYSTEMS Multi-tenant solution (Based on Asterisk)… at
the time it was about 12k with a yearly licence, but we run 100’s of extensions
right now. We use a very good sip trunk provider and buy channels as we fill
up the box. Runs on any server with as much hardware you
mark_brune...@cable.comcast.com
Great guy
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 6:20 PM, Erich Kaiser er...@northcentraltower.com
wrote:
Rory,
I just sent you an email.
Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291
2015-04-06 16:12 GMT-05:00
The per extension model doesn't work anymore, as far as business
customers. Say they have 10 phones/extensions at $35/mo each. Comcast or
ATT can come in and blow that away with $200/mo business service. Been
there, done that, cannot do that anymore.
Don't think you can just jump into doing
What are people using for their multi-tenant voip platform?
On 4/6/2015 6:12 PM, Bruce Robertson wrote:
I use voip.ms. Love 'em.
On 04/06/2015 03:55 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Why not get SIP trunk, origination, termination, and DIDs from
voip.ms or similar? We use VoIP Innovations but they have
We are a wholesale customer of someone using the Netsapiens platform.
It works well but we're not large enough to venture off on our own due
to the startup costs of the platform. Our provider said their mission
is to drive enough volume to not make it worth our time to deploy our
own
No trust me he went off on his own like a 12 year old kid. I in no way was
badgering him or anything of the like. I offered to send him some radios and
ap's about 6 months ago to see if he'd be willing to look at them. He didn't
want them. But I saw he was adding trango apex stuff and some
Better than a truck or jeep? Looks are deceiving obviously ... ;)
-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2015 12:01 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: British Columbia project vehicle
For mountain/hilltop tower
We were contracted to do some radio upgrades
They wanted the radio serial numbers/mac addresses for some AES keys for
ptp650
The entitlement certificate fromt he vendors dont have matching serial
numbers to the radios. Im suspecting the serial numbers on the certs are
the certificate serial and
Yes entitlements are not tied to specific hardware
I can't answer the part about adding multiple keys. I imagine they must
have thought of that though.
We were contracted to do some radio upgrades
They wanted the radio serial numbers/mac addresses for some AES keys
for ptp650
The
One of my WISP buddies received an email from a wholesale bandwidth
provider called Puro Broadband. Has anyone ever heard of them or used them
before? Puro can be as pure or just or even a good cigar.
Thanks
Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390
Once again, I am searching for good surveillance and monitoring cameras and
system. What I have is pretty poor quality.
I have used axis before and they are good. Like a low cost DVR type of thing
though. Are there any decent open source DVRS etc etc.
Outdoors we want IR. Like to have PTZ
Thanks. I will take a look.
From: Charles Boening
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 10:16 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Cameras again
We just put in some Hikvision with their NVR. Outdoor 3MP bullet cameras run
about $200 on Amazon. The dome ones are about $120. Quality is
Looking for a fixed camera to mount on our towers. Would like it to
FTP out a snap shot every 60 seconds for our website. Using Ubiquiti
now and would like something a little better. but not 20X the cost.
I think you’re licensing the “ports” or number of cameras supported as well as
the hardware. When you compare to a UBNT solution it’s pretty expensive.
Heck, you could even purchase a small Dell server and some hard drives for a
bit cheaper. I will say it was nice as a plug-n-play solution
Look at the Hikvision Turbo cameras HD and low cost. I can get u good
prices on these
Dvr as well. How many cameras?
Jaime Solorza
On Apr 6, 2015 10:26 AM, can...@believewireless.net
p...@believewireless.net wrote:
Take a look at Grandstream. They have a CHEAP DVR ($200) you just have to
The Grandstream will work with ONVIF cameras. Some people have had issues
with some cameras though
so I don't know if they'll work with everything.
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Probably 12-16 cameras.
*From:* Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
All at one building? I guess another option would be analog cameras and a
central DVR. I wonder when POE cameras will get cheap enough to make analog
security cameras obsolete?
From: Chuck McCown
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 11:43 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Cameras again
We just put in some Hikvision with their NVR. Outdoor 3MP bullet cameras run
about $200 on Amazon. The dome ones are about $120. Quality is pretty decent.
They have an app for mobile devices so you can view cameras remotely.
We've had them installed for almost 2 months and haven't had any
We use Grandstream. Works great and cheap.
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Matt matt.mailingli...@gmail.com wrote:
Looking for a fixed camera to mount on our towers. Would like it to
FTP out a snap shot every 60 seconds for our website. Using Ubiquiti
now and would like something a little
Take a look at Grandstream. They have a CHEAP DVR ($200) you just have to
add drives. I think their night time quality is better than HIK and are in
the same price range.
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 12:20 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:
I am NOT a camera expert, but I have concluded that PTZ
Probably 12-16 cameras.
From: Jaime Solorza
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 10:32 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Cameras again
Look at the Hikvision Turbo cameras HD and low cost. I can get u good prices
on these
Dvr as well. How many cameras?
Jaime Solorza
On Apr 6, 2015
So I guess it goes without saying that the HK cameras work with the Grandstream
DVR. I wonder if that is a standards based situation.
From: mailto:p...@believewireless.net
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 10:29 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Cameras again
Attached is a screenshot of
Yeah, I just printed out their comparison chart.
From: mailto:p...@believewireless.net
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 10:26 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Cameras again
Take a look at Grandstream. They have a CHEAP DVR ($200) you just have to add
drives. I think their night time
$2400 DVR?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Thanks. I will take a look.
*From:* Charles Boening charl...@calore.net
*Sent:* Monday, April 06, 2015
I am NOT a camera expert, but I have concluded that PTZ will almost never be
worth the trouble and cost. Those Axis PTZ cameras are budget busters.
It seems cheaper and easier to put in multiple cameras, or to use a high res
camera with “digital” PTZ, i.e. the ability to zoom in on a portion
I actually use the UBNT cameras and my own NVR on an Ubuntu server. Works well
enough. The NVR is an old server we had laying around so the only real cost was
the cameras.
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 12:55 PM
To: af@afmug.com
UBNTs new cameras are really nice quality in both materials and picture. They
also now include the IR. Maybe just replace the ones you need IR on and
repurpose those old ones?
Also, UBNT just came out with the app for iphone to be able to view them
remotely. I'm in the process of replacing all
I have that now and the quality is crappy plus no IR at night.
From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 10:55 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Cameras again
All at one building? I guess another option would be analog cameras and a
central DVR. I wonder when POE cameras
I have both the UBNT and Grandstream cameras. Granted, my UBNT cams are
the 1st Gen, the Grandstream ones perform very well. I would highly
recommend them.
Regards,
Chuck
On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Gabriel Pike gabriel.wi...@dmcibb.net
wrote:
I actually use the UBNT cameras and my own
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