Re: [AFMUG] pmp450

2016-02-01 Thread Bill Prince
Totally. Audio alignment is the best (and easiest IMO) way to align a Canopy SM. bp On 2/1/2016 12:39 PM, Ryan Mano wrote: ​on a dish and without same thing you said audio alignment there are tones on the sm to align with?

Re: [AFMUG] pmp450

2016-02-01 Thread Ryan Mano
8x down 1x up this is the first sm am trying to install on it ? the freq am on is very clean not sure what the problem isunless am missing a setting? From: Af on behalf of Josh Luthman Sent: Monday,

[AFMUG] Packetflux gigabit syncinjector force connectorized epmp 24 V

2016-02-01 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I have a site we will initially feed with an epmp force 110 (connectorized epmp) and serve two EPMPgps APs from it. To conserver space, I want to just run all three radios off a gigabit syncinjector, but the epmp connectorized is limited to 30 v. Is there any issue running the EPMP gps APs on 24

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux gigabit syncinjector force connectorized epmp 24 V

2016-02-01 Thread Brandon Yuchasz
I have run all mine at 24 volts all winter without issue. I did not have any of the cold susceptible mac addresses however. My only concern is if had a long power outage and batteries died perhaps the epmp would have powered up the heaters and never got to boot. It did not happen so it’s simply

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux gigabit syncinjector force connectorized epmp 24 V

2016-02-01 Thread Josh Luthman
I don't think the GIGEAPC-HV has any loss really. Definitely under 1v, the resistance is very minimal. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 4:24 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > I

[AFMUG] Packetflux dimensions

2016-02-01 Thread Adam Moffett
How big is this PoE injector? http://store.packetflux.com/sitemonitor-4-channel-gigabit-poe-injector-controller/ I'm guessing a smidge over 3", but I'm not seeing dimensions on the web page.

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux gigabit syncinjector force connectorized epmp 24 V

2016-02-01 Thread Mike Hammett
Running them at 24v is what some of the commotion has been about lately. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" To: af@afmug.com Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux gigabit syncinjector force connectorized epmp 24 V

2016-02-01 Thread Josh Luthman
Ain't no sync on those bruh Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 4:07 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > One of deese... > http://www.mccowntech.com/din-rail-mount-for-surge-suppressors-protectors/ > An

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux gigabit syncinjector force connectorized epmp 24 V

2016-02-01 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I just read forrests breakdown, very interesting on the drop in voltage. We also use the GIGEAPC SS I wonder if there is any voltage drop across those as well In my case above, Im better off just independently powering the SM backhaul since it will be going away in the future anyway. Our other

Re: [AFMUG] Google plans to beam 5G internet from solar drones

2016-02-01 Thread Paul McCall
+1 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 1:26 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Google plans to beam 5G internet from solar drones More stuff to shoot at On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 5:29 PM, Jaime Solorza

[AFMUG] pmp450

2016-02-01 Thread Ryan Mano
am new to the pmp450 looks straight forward but am having issues registering it from a distance? when I point the sm which is 12 feet in front of the ap it syncs 8x by 1x ...but if I go 1mile down the road it doesn't register at all not sure what am doing wrong...has anyone had this similar

Re: [AFMUG] pmp450

2016-02-01 Thread Bill Prince
Is the SM dished? You are aware that the dish is an offset parabola (dish will be pointed down)? At 1 mile a dished SM should be screaming on audio alignment. bp On 2/1/2016 12:30 PM, Ryan Mano wrote: ​ap side max range is set to 10 miles

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux gigabit syncinjector force connectorized epmp 24 V

2016-02-01 Thread Josh Luthman
24v at the radio you're fine. It's 20v or less at the radio when you have an issue. You could do 28v and be cautious. If you have long cat5 runs you might want to do this. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at

Re: [AFMUG] Google’s reportedly using experimental tech to deliver 5G internet from solar-powered drones - Quartz

2016-02-01 Thread Jaime Solorza
Home Depot in Las Cruces...no 200 mile round trip. On Feb 1, 2016 1:11 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > > http://qz.com/607042/googles-reportedly-using-experimental-tech-to-deliver-5g-internet-from-solar-powered-drones/ >

Re: [AFMUG] pmp450

2016-02-01 Thread Josh Luthman
Signals on each side? 8x down 1x up? Could be an uplink path issue or heavy interference at the AP side. Have you changed frequencies? Spectrum analysis? Is this the first SM on the AP? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon,

[AFMUG] Job Listing

2016-02-01 Thread Chuck McCown
Know anyone looking for a job in Eastern Oregon? Beautiful location. Great Company. Wireless/Cellular Technician Installs, troubleshoots, tests, and maintains equipment associated with wireless operations including switching equipment, tower site, microwave radio systems and related

Re: [AFMUG] pmp450

2016-02-01 Thread Ryan Mano
?ap side max range is set to 10 miles From: Af on behalf of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Monday, February 1, 2016 3:27 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] pmp450 is max range set low? On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at

Re: [AFMUG] pmp450

2016-02-01 Thread Ryan Mano
?on a dish and without same thing you said audio alignment there are tones on the sm to align with? From: Af on behalf of Bill Prince Sent: Monday, February 1, 2016 3:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] pmp450

Re: [AFMUG] pmp450

2016-02-01 Thread Brian Sullivan
If you have all frequencies checked and all channel sizes checked, it can be a long wait between re-registration attempts. On 2/1/2016 2:44 PM, Ryan Mano wrote: Also notice on the sm there is external gain do I leave that at 0? Is that the problem? *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com]

Re: [AFMUG] pmp450

2016-02-01 Thread Ryan Mano
Nope its isolated From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brian Sullivan Sent: Monday, February 1, 2016 3:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] pmp450 If you have all frequencies checked and all channel sizes checked, it can be a long wait between re-registration attempts. On

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux gigabit syncinjector force connectorized epmp 24 V

2016-02-01 Thread Chuck McCown
One of deese... http://www.mccowntech.com/din-rail-mount-for-surge-suppressors-protectors/ An tree of deese... http://www.mccowntech.com/rack-mount-gige-poe-apc-surge-suppressor-power-inserter-protector/ Use any voltage you want on each circuit.

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux gigabit syncinjector force connectorized epmp 24 V

2016-02-01 Thread Josh Baird
We have gone back to sites and cranked the PSU's feeding the SyncInjectors up to ~30V. We had numerous power and sync problems in the cold weather when our PSU's were outputting ~25-26V (there was ~150ft of cable to the radio as well). We'll be rolling 48V at all future sites. On Mon, Feb 1,

Re: [AFMUG] TVWS equipment in 2016

2016-02-01 Thread Jason McKemie
It seems like the regulatory environment around these bands is a little shaky. I always figured that was why. On Monday, February 1, 2016, Adam Moffett wrote: > I've wondered why the major fixed wireless players never touched this. > > Wasn't there supposed to be a SAS

Re: [AFMUG] I love DSL reports.

2016-02-01 Thread Jaime Solorza
Sell him a bridge..ha! Too easy and lame!! On Feb 1, 2016 4:25 PM, "Jason McKemie" wrote: > Wow. I stopped visiting that site a long time ago. Makes my brain hurt. > > On Monday, February 1, 2016, Ryan Ray wrote: > >> [image: Inline

Re: [AFMUG] I love DSL reports.

2016-02-01 Thread Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)
Just say yes, you’ll be fine, should work no issue… Ha Ha, I don’t really mean that, I’ve been on that side of the question 15 years ago. :-) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Ray Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 10:22 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] I

Re: [AFMUG] I love DSL reports.

2016-02-01 Thread Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T)
On another note. If he can find 5000 paying customer in 3km radius I’m moving country and retiring a year later :-) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Ray Sent: Tuesday, February 2, 2016 10:22 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] I love DSL reports.

Re: [AFMUG] pmp450

2016-02-01 Thread Adam Moffett
...and another thought: It doesn't matter so much if they have a poor connection and don't do anything with it. If you really need to know who's dragging down performance then you need to collect the mod level and amount of usage over timethen you can calculate a weighted usage value for

Re: [AFMUG] pmp450

2016-02-01 Thread George Skorup
There still seems to be some misconception on this. 8X/1X means that it's 8X capable / 1X current. It's always going to show 8X capable (or 2X for FSK, 3X for 430). After the / is what you need to pay attention to. Also, the uplink and downlink are independent. On the AP session status page

Re: [AFMUG] pmp450

2016-02-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
Not sure what you mean by isolated, is that in response to Brian’s post? He is saying there are a ton of frequencies and 3 channel widths in the Radio tab on the SM, and if you have it scan all of those, you might be waiting over a minute for it to evaluate all of them and pick the best.

Re: [AFMUG] pmp450

2016-02-01 Thread Mark Radabaugh
In addition to what George said… If you have newer software use the ‘link status’ page - it shows a much nicer presentation of both sides. The radios also take some time to reach full modulation. Without traffic newly registered links with stay in low modulation. Force some traffic through

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux gigabit syncinjector force connectorized epmp 24 V

2016-02-01 Thread Adam Moffett
If Steve is wondering: The a lot of Meanwell PSU's have a screw to adjust the output voltage. Usually it's to match the float voltage of batteries, but if you don't have batteries you can crank it up all the way. On 2/1/2016 4:29 PM, Josh Baird wrote: We have gone back to sites and cranked

Re: [AFMUG] pmp450

2016-02-01 Thread Eric Muehleisen
It would be a nice feature if you could click a button and temporarily flood the RF link on all SM's so that 'link status' could be accurately measured for uplink and downlink. This would be particularly useful when trying to track down those SM's with poor modulation that are a drag on the frame

Re: [AFMUG] I love DSL reports.

2016-02-01 Thread Jason McKemie
I don't think I was ever THAT ignorant of the technology. On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 5:30 PM, Rhys Cuff (Latrobe I.T) < r...@latrobeit.com.au> wrote: > Just say yes, you’ll be fine, should work no issue… > > > > Ha Ha, I don’t really mean that, I’ve been on that side of the question 15 > years ago.

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux gigabit syncinjector force connectorized epmp 24 V

2016-02-01 Thread Mathew Howard
Just crank it up to 28-30v and everything will be happy... or use a Force110 PTP instead and just run the whole works on 48v. On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 3:24 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > I just read forrests breakdown, very interesting on the drop in voltage. > We

[AFMUG] TVWS equipment in 2016

2016-02-01 Thread Eric Kuhnke
If you've recently purchased any tvws equipment or received price quotes from a vendor, please contact me off list... It is looking increasingly like I could describe the current state of equipment available as "half baked prototypes". There has been a lot of noise and hot air but very little

Re: [AFMUG] I love DSL reports.

2016-02-01 Thread Jason McKemie
Wow. I stopped visiting that site a long time ago. Makes my brain hurt. On Monday, February 1, 2016, Ryan Ray wrote: > [image: Inline image 1] >

Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux gigabit syncinjector force connectorized epmp 24 V

2016-02-01 Thread Chuck McCown
Depends on the current. I measured it during initial testing but don’t recall the resistance. Less than an ohm as I recall. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 2:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux gigabit syncinjector force connectorized epmp 24 V I

Re: [AFMUG] pmp450

2016-02-01 Thread Adam Moffett
Hmm...when the AP transmits, every SM receives it. Maybe it could send a test pattern for 2 seconds at each data rate and each SM could report back how much of the test pattern was legible at each rate. The whole downlink test could finish in 16 seconds. If you want an uplink result, then

[AFMUG] I love DSL reports.

2016-02-01 Thread Ryan Ray
[image: Inline image 1]

Re: [AFMUG] pmp450

2016-02-01 Thread Ryan Mano
It registers 12 feet in front of the AP at 8x/1x…if I point at it 1 mile down the road it will not link just says scanning I only enable the freq that the ap is using and unchecked all the rest…this is what I meant by isolating AP eval shows nothing at 1 mile mark but close up it shows So

Re: [AFMUG] pmp450

2016-02-01 Thread George Skorup
Are you talking about the Cambium 60 degree sector that has the third connector for FSK (in the middle I think)? Or did you just put the FSK AP on the vertical port for testing before swapping to the 450 AP? It will sit at 8X/1X QPSK MIMO-A while scanning to listen for beacons, so that is

Re: [AFMUG] pmp450

2016-02-01 Thread Bill Prince
Whoa... Wait. it registers on a PMP100 AP?!?!? Does not compute! A PMP450 will _*_NOT_*_ talk to a PMP100 AP at all. bp On 2/1/2016 4:40 PM, Ryan Mano wrote: It registers 12 feet in front of the AP at 8x/1x…if I point at it 1 mile down the road it will not link

[AFMUG] Winds and snow

2016-02-01 Thread Jaime Solorza
High winds and powdering hit us today. Headed east...keep an eye out for it Louis and Tushar. it was 70 yesterday.

[AFMUG] Ceragon IP20c w/ Netonix

2016-02-01 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Hello, Anyone has tried to knows if they can power a Ceragon IP20c radio with a Netonix Switch ? (48v 1.5amp port) ? Thanks in advance. Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email:

Re: [AFMUG] pmp450

2016-02-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
I assume you mean a PMP100 SM registered to a PMP100 AP, right? And now you are trying a PMP450 SM with a PMP450 AP? One question – you are using a dual polarization sector, right? If the 12 ft scenario is a lab test, I would back off farther like maybe 100 feet, and make sure the sector and

Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20c w/ Netonix

2016-02-01 Thread George Skorup
Aren't those -48 with chassis bonded to return? On 2/1/2016 6:02 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: Hello, Anyone has tried to knows if they can power a Ceragon IP20c radio with a Netonix Switch ? (48v 1.5amp port) ? Thanks in advance. Regards Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48

Re: [AFMUG] I love DSL reports.

2016-02-01 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Bad English and Libyan arab in the descriptor… Different wireless rules/regulations, high density of little to no revenue paying base maybe? Sounds like a job for that Chinese UBNT knockoff brand, lol! From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Ray Sent: Monday, February 1, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] Winds and snow

2016-02-01 Thread Tushar Patel
Will watch out. Thanks for heads up. Tushar > On Feb 1, 2016, at 6:04 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > > High winds and powdering hit us today. Headed east...keep an eye out for > it Louis and Tushar. it was 70 yesterday.

Re: [AFMUG] Ceragon IP20c w/ Netonix

2016-02-01 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
I currently don't have any docs on them, so I cannot say. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net - Original Message - > From: "George Skorup"

Re: [AFMUG] pmp450

2016-02-01 Thread Ryan Ray
Is your sector dual polarity? Sent while mobile > On Feb 1, 2016, at 4:40 PM, Ryan Mano wrote: > > It registers 12 feet in front of the AP at 8x/1x…if I point at it 1 mile down > the road it will not link just says scanning > > I only enable the freq that the

Re: [AFMUG] I love DSL reports.

2016-02-01 Thread Josh Reynolds
This is roughly 1 in 20 posts on the UBNT forum. It makes my eyes bleed. At least people believe there's a demand for access in the other half of the world - that's cool at least. On Feb 1, 2016 5:21 PM, "Ryan Ray" wrote: > [image: Inline image 1] >

Re: [AFMUG] OT almost time

2016-02-01 Thread Bill Prince
That's the way we hear it out here as well. Emphasis on the second syllable. bp On 2/1/2016 7:15 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: The first is how I have always heard it. *From:* Ken Hohhof *Sent:* Monday, February 01, 2016 8:11 AM *To:*

[AFMUG] Shodan used NTP servers to find active IPv6 address to portscan

2016-02-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
http://arstechnica.com/security/2016/02/using-ipv6-with-linux-youve-likely-been-visited-by-shodan-and-other-scanners/

Re: [AFMUG] ASUS router question

2016-02-01 Thread Paul Stewart
By default, the firewall is on and the admin access from WAN is disabled... at least on my Asus RT-AC87R I'm using right now... The wifi is shipped with a sticker attached with a predefined password as well -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken

Re: [AFMUG] OT almost time

2016-02-01 Thread Bill Prince
Out here, it is real similar to pulled pork. bp On 2/1/2016 7:18 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Literally yes ... carnitas is used for pork or beef which is cooked in oil or steamonce down you pull apart or cut to small portions... lots of ways to do it... On

Re: [AFMUG] SAD day

2016-02-01 Thread Bill Prince
Travis, you are such an Apple fan boy, I can't stand it. When Apple was the most valuable corporation, you proudly proclaim them to be "the biggest company on the planet". Well they weren't then, and they aren't now. Get over it. And now you poo poo that Google is the most valuable

[AFMUG] Google’s reportedly using experimental tech to deliver 5G internet from solar-powered drones - Quartz

2016-02-01 Thread Jaime Solorza
http://qz.com/607042/googles-reportedly-using-experimental-tech-to-deliver-5g-internet-from-solar-powered-drones/

Re: [AFMUG] pmp450

2016-02-01 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
is max range set low? On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Ryan Mano wrote: > 8x down 1x up > > this is the first sm am trying to install on it > ​ > > the freq am on is very clean not sure what the problem isunless am > missing a setting? > > > > >

Re: [AFMUG] pmp450

2016-02-01 Thread Ryan Mano
Also notice on the sm there is external gain do I leave that at 0? Is that the problem? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Monday, February 1, 2016 3:43 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] pmp450 Totally. Audio alignment is the best (and easiest IMO) way

[AFMUG] Wiskey in 24 hrs

2016-02-01 Thread Josh Reynolds
https://youtu.be/hgLanpdX9eE I like this guy

Re: [AFMUG] SAD day

2016-02-01 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 2/1/16 9:09 PM, Colin Stanners wrote: Google is making themselves the curator of access to the world's information and communications. When you consider the value of those, it's not just the most valuable company in matters of money. The founders had incredible foresight in addition to their

Re: [AFMUG] SAD day

2016-02-01 Thread Travis Johnson
At least Apple makes products... products that literally changed the computing world, the phone world, the retail world, created apps, and the music world. Google created a search engine (actually copying Yahoo, Webcrawler, Altavista and several others at the time). They aren't a "product".

Re: [AFMUG] SAD day

2016-02-01 Thread Josh Luthman
Absolutely. Do No Evil is complete bullshit. Believing otherwise is simply ignorant or naïve. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 2, 2016 12:27 AM, "Travis Johnson" wrote: > I totally disagree. I don't believe

Re: [AFMUG] SAD day

2016-02-01 Thread George Skorup
Nobody says "Let me Bing/Yahoo that". So yeah, Google is how you search the interwebs. But I agree on the other point. I do not trust any company that has (or can have) such huge control over information. Be it Google, Microsoft, Apple, etc... or the government. On 2/1/2016 11:36 PM, Travis

Re: [AFMUG] SAD day

2016-02-01 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
I remember using metacrawler in college (1997-2000ish). It searched the other 7? 8? big "search engines" at the time. What was the biggie back then? webcrawler? I had a blackberry storm 2005-2006ishI believe that was at the same time as of just prior to the iphone. Things were just

Re: [AFMUG] SAD day

2016-02-01 Thread Josh Luthman
The world's most popular site and you don't think the world would change? Really??? Apple is gone. People buy Blackberries and Android. Tablets probably won't exist. Mp3 players would probably have come to fruition without them. What else do they have? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340

Re: [AFMUG] SAD day

2016-02-01 Thread Travis Johnson
I totally disagree. I don't believe having a single company "control" the flow of information like Google does is a good thing. They can now literally decide EXACTLY what information you see, when you see it, and how it relates to your emails, searches, location, and patterns. We don't allow

Re: [AFMUG] SAD day

2016-02-01 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Go2net became a corporation during 1998, registered with Nasdaq, with its primary asset being MetaCrawler.com. MetaCrawler.com and Go2net were acquired by InfoSpace (now Blucora) during 1999 for $4.2 billion. As of March 2015, the URL metacrawler.com is being redirected to zoo.com. As of

Re: [AFMUG] SAD day

2016-02-01 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
- Original Message - From: CBB - Jay Fuller To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2016 12:24 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SAD day Go2net became a corporation during 1998, registered with Nasdaq, with its primary asset being MetaCrawler.com. MetaCrawler.com and Go2net

Re: [AFMUG] SAD day

2016-02-01 Thread Colin Stanners
I'd much rather Google / Alphabet Inc. be in that position than Apple with their overpriced yet restricted / non-upgradable / crappy consumer electronics. Google is making themselves the curator of access to the world's information and communications. When you consider the value of those, it's

[AFMUG] SAD day

2016-02-01 Thread Travis Johnson
http://www.ibtimes.com/alphabet-inc-goog-surpasses-apple-inc-aapl-become-worlds-most-valuable-public-company-2289113 "The world isn't run by weapons anymore, or energy, or money. It's run by little ones and zeroes, little bits of data. It's all just electrons." ~ Cosmo (Sneakers 1992)

Re: [AFMUG] SAD day

2016-02-01 Thread Travis Johnson
I would use Yahoo or Bing or any other search engine. Nothing would change if Google went away tomorrow. Blackberries and Android wouldn't even exist if Apple hadn't created the first iPhone. Same with tablets... look how many people tried tablets before Apple, and they all failed. I

Re: [AFMUG] SAD day

2016-02-01 Thread Cameron Crum
I wouldn't touch an apple product even through my first programming class was on an apple 2e in 4th grade. Closed architecture, closed everything. My wife and daughter both have iphones and they have problems all the time. Not enough memory and not expandable, problems with upgrades, slowness,

Re: [AFMUG] Google plans to beam 5G internet from solar drones

2016-02-01 Thread Jaime Solorza
didn't know you moved to Texas.ducking Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 11:25 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > More stuff to shoot at > > On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 5:29 PM, Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] ASUS router question

2016-02-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
Thanks. Sounds like this guy has a talent for screwing up routers. -Original Message- From: Paul Stewart Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 5:35 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ASUS router question By default, the firewall is on and the admin access from WAN is disabled... at

Re: [AFMUG] OT almost time

2016-02-01 Thread Adam Moffett
Carnita? Does that mean "little meat?" On 1/30/2016 9:44 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Carnitas were excellent... no greasecrock pot did it justice...homemade salsa...avocado...sour cream.tortillas and of course Tecateenjoying Borne Identity now. On Jan 30, 2016 7:36 PM, "Ken

Re: [AFMUG] OT almost time

2016-02-01 Thread Jaime Solorza
Yes On Feb 1, 2016 8:12 AM, "Cameron Crum" wrote: > top one > > On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 9:11 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > >> We have an argument about how to pronounce it. >> >> car-NI-tas >> car-ni-TAS >> CAR-ni-tas >> >> Wife thinks it’s like gravitas. >> >> >>

Re: [AFMUG] OT almost time

2016-02-01 Thread Chuck McCown
Kudos’ to y’all. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 8:19 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT almost time And can you have just one carnita? Like is ravioli plural, and if you just have one, is it a raviolo? Raviolus? Or is it one of those words that is both singular

Re: [AFMUG] OT almost time

2016-02-01 Thread Josh Luthman
Shredded pork Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 1, 2016 9:52 AM, "Adam Moffett" wrote: > Carnita? Does that mean "little meat?" > > On 1/30/2016 9:44 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > > Carnitas were excellent...

Re: [AFMUG] OT almost time

2016-02-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
We have an argument about how to pronounce it. car-NI-tas car-ni-TAS CAR-ni-tas Wife thinks it’s like gravitas. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 9:06 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT almost time Shredded pork Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [AFMUG] OT almost time

2016-02-01 Thread Jaime Solorza
Literally yes ... carnitas is used for pork or beef which is cooked in oil or steamonce down you pull apart or cut to small portions... lots of ways to do it... On Feb 1, 2016 7:52 AM, "Adam Moffett" wrote: > Carnita? Does that mean "little meat?" > > On 1/30/2016 9:44

Re: [AFMUG] OT almost time

2016-02-01 Thread Cameron Crum
top one On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 9:11 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > We have an argument about how to pronounce it. > > car-NI-tas > car-ni-TAS > CAR-ni-tas > > Wife thinks it’s like gravitas. > > > *From:* Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Monday, February 01, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] OT almost time

2016-02-01 Thread Gino Villarini
car NI tas actual translation is little meat  carnitas o carnecita  Sent from Outlook Mobile On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 7:11 AM -0800, "Ken Hohhof" wrote: We have an argument about how to pronounce it.   car-NI-tas car-ni-TAS CAR-ni-tas   Wife thinks it’s like

Re: [AFMUG] OT almost time

2016-02-01 Thread Chuck McCown
The first is how I have always heard it. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 8:11 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT almost time We have an argument about how to pronounce it. car-NI-tas car-ni-TAS CAR-ni-tas Wife thinks it’s like gravitas. From: Josh Luthman Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] OT almost time

2016-02-01 Thread Josh Luthman
Same here. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > The first is how I have always heard it. > > *From:* Ken Hohhof > *Sent:* Monday, February 01,

Re: [AFMUG] OT almost time

2016-02-01 Thread Ken Hohhof
And can you have just one carnita? Like is ravioli plural, and if you just have one, is it a raviolo? Raviolus? Or is it one of those words that is both singular and plural? And what about kudos? From: Chuck McCown Sent: Monday, February 01, 2016 9:15 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] OT almost time

2016-02-01 Thread Jaime Solorza
Carnitasese vato loco On Feb 1, 2016 8:33 AM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Yes > On Feb 1, 2016 8:12 AM, "Cameron Crum" wrote: > >> top one >> >> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 9:11 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >> >>> We have an argument about

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2016-02-01 Thread Nate Burke
I'm intrigued by the one IP per connection idea, then throwing it away. I could even see it moving forward to automatic firewall rules to limit src/dst connections to IP Pairs. This is my Netflix IP, I will only communicate to Netflix on this IP, and only accept connections from netflix to

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2016-02-01 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
More stuff to shoot at On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 5:29 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > The space port is not far from me..maybe a visit would be nice. Then off > to Sparkys in Hatch for green Chile stew and bbcue > On Jan 30, 2016 4:16 PM, "Josh Luthman"