Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti AC client with Mimosa AP

2016-09-23 Thread Josh Reynolds
Damned if you do, damned if you don't. They needed to break out from wifi completely to make certain things work now and in the future. On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 5:03 PM, Jason McKemie wrote: > Thanks. That was what I figured, wanted to make sure though. That's

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz PMP450i :: Any real numbers?

2016-09-23 Thread George Skorup
Well, let me ask this. Are you doing 2x2 or 4x4 on the Telrad? Obviously 4x4 would give a slight advantage. My whole thing is, OK, it might work through a shit ton of trees. Linked up and able to move some traffic is one thing. But a whole bunch of low modulation customers on a sector is not

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz PMP450i :: Any real numbers?

2016-09-23 Thread Jaime Solorza
Interesting. I have an LTE install next week for a national car parts dealer. I will share what I can when I finish job. I received a detail SCOW but no vendor information. Gear arrives Monday. Kind of excited because it's new to me. On Sep 23, 2016 8:52 PM, "Adam Moffett"

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz PMP450i :: Any real numbers?

2016-09-23 Thread Adam Moffett
We've had Telrad Compact 1000's for around 2.5 years, but they're running Wimax firmware because we were replacing older 16e installations. We have a number of sites now that have entirely dual mode CPE so we're about to pull the trigger on LTE. We're installing four LTE base stations next

[AFMUG] Conference Sessions Feedback

2016-09-23 Thread Mike Hammett
I am soliciting feedback from anyone that attended the Virtualization or Bandwidth sessions this past spring. Onlist or offlist are fine. What would you look for in both? What would you look for in an automation session? Thanks. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] OT: What a puss

2016-09-23 Thread Jaime Solorza
Oh no... No Tecate at store Time to go to WetMart On Sep 23, 2016 6:11 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Thanks for invite Chuck... Now some comedy > http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/09/23/ted-cruz- > chooses-donald-trump-over-wife-dad.html > > On Sep 23,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: What a puss

2016-09-23 Thread Jaime Solorza
Thanks for invite Chuck... Now some comedy http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/09/23/ted-cruz-chooses-donald-trump-over-wife-dad.html On Sep 23, 2016 4:03 PM, wrote: > There is a nasty lawsuit swimming in my money vault too. Come on in, the > water is fine! > > *From:*

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz PMP450i :: Any real numbers?

2016-09-23 Thread George Skorup
Aren't you doing Telrad? Please let us know if it works at all. On 9/23/2016 4:05 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: I'll let you know in a few weeks. -- Original Message -- From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: 9/23/2016 5:01:02 PM Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 upgrade

2016-09-23 Thread Jaime Solorza
S Stamps... Fill it up and get cool stuff Boom! Youngsters heads blow up On Sep 23, 2016 3:53 PM, "Mathew Howard" wrote: > Don't give them any ideas > > On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 2:07 PM, wrote: > >> Mail-in coupon. >> >> *From:* Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] OT: What a puss

2016-09-23 Thread chuck
There is a nasty lawsuit swimming in my money vault too. Come on in, the water is fine! From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 3:42 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: What a puss when did these election choices become cool...I am voting for Pat Paulsen as write in...

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti AC client with Mimosa AP

2016-09-23 Thread Jason McKemie
Thanks. That was what I figured, wanted to make sure though. That's some weak sauce Ubiquiti. On Friday, September 23, 2016, Jeremy wrote: > Ubiquiti AC is proprietary > > On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Jason McKemie < > j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com >

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 upgrade

2016-09-23 Thread Mathew Howard
Don't give them any ideas On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 2:07 PM, wrote: > Mail-in coupon. > > *From:* Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Friday, September 23, 2016 1:06 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 upgrade > > When I did it it was

Re: [AFMUG] OT: What a puss

2016-09-23 Thread Tim Reichhart
Jaime you vote dont even count so why bother voting? People to be will put who ever they want in office way I see it if Gary Johnson win 2-3 states it will not give Trump or Killary enough votes to win so they will give the power to congress to put into power. Tim -Original Message-

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz PMP450i :: Any real numbers?

2016-09-23 Thread Dave
All configs are set to 5ms and 7Mhz channel size due to co-lo with fisk On 09/23/2016 03:22 PM, Bill Prince wrote: What size channel are you using Dave? On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Dave > wrote: This is from one of ours

Re: [AFMUG] OT: What a puss

2016-09-23 Thread Jaime Solorza
when did these election choices become cool...I am voting for Pat Paulsen as write in... Damn work gets in way of my drinking.,..I need to start a company like Chuck and swim in my money vault every morning. (ducking under my, yuk, glass of tea.) Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect

Re: [AFMUG] OT: What a puss

2016-09-23 Thread Tim Reichhart
Jamie all fairness ted cruz did samething so its all cool now. Rest of them jackesses need to follow through there promise of that pledge they signed I am talking about johnny boy ace and dipshit jeb bush. -Original Message- From: "Jaime Solorza" To:

[AFMUG] OT: What a puss

2016-09-23 Thread Jaime Solorza
Wow, so Ted Cruz endorses Dipshit after he made fun of his wife!! He is a pussy. If he said that about my wife, I would kick his ass... desclaimer{ Don't blame the Tecate...I haven't started yet. Cruz should change his name...Ted Wuz...vendido Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz PMP450i :: Any real numbers?

2016-09-23 Thread Mathew Howard
15Mbps is certainly possible with 10mhz channels... ​ That one is actually working at 8X, which doesn't happen most of the time... but even if most of the SMs are only running at 4X, 15Mbps is doable on 10mhz channels. On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 4:05 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz PMP450i :: Any real numbers?

2016-09-23 Thread Adam Moffett
I'll let you know in a few weeks. -- Original Message -- From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: 9/23/2016 5:01:02 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz PMP450i :: Any real numbers? I wonder what LTE would do with the same RSSI. From:Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 2:46

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti AC client with Mimosa AP

2016-09-23 Thread Jeremy
Ubiquiti AC is proprietary On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 2:43 PM, Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > Will this work? Or are the ubiquiti AC radios stuck in airmax only mode?

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz PMP450i :: Any real numbers?

2016-09-23 Thread chuck
I wonder what LTE would do with the same RSSI. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 2:46 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz PMP450i :: Any real numbers? Oh I also have somebody with a -88 who gets about half that. 900 was the last ditch effort for both of these.

Re: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna?

2016-09-23 Thread chuck
I think I would have ran fiber. From: Eric Kuhnke Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 1:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna? An 800 yard 11 GHz link? Really? If ever there was a scenario that called for a 60 or 80 GHz radio

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz PMP450i :: Any real numbers?

2016-09-23 Thread Adam Moffett
Oh I also have somebody with a -88 who gets about half that. 900 was the last ditch effort for both of these. With wimax from the same tower we got a big fat nothing at both locations. -- Original Message -- From: "Adam Moffett" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 9/23/2016

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz PMP450i :: Any real numbers?

2016-09-23 Thread Adam Moffett
On the other end of the quality spectrum: Link Test with Bridging VCDownlinkUplinkAggregatePacket TransmitPacket ReceiveActualActual196.07 Mbps1.32 Mbps7.39 Mbps, 474 pps821 (410 pps)128(64 pps) That's a -85 on a 5mhz channel. On any wider channel I lose this guy. -- Original Message

[AFMUG] Ubiquiti AC client with Mimosa AP

2016-09-23 Thread Jason McKemie
Will this work? Or are the ubiquiti AC radios stuck in airmax only mode?

Re: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna?

2016-09-23 Thread Daniel White
80GHz is Part 101… Daniel White Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales ConVergence Technologies Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 dwh...@converge-tech.com From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz PMP450i :: Any real numbers?

2016-09-23 Thread Bill Prince
What size channel are you using Dave? On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 1:17 PM, Dave wrote: > This is from one of ours > Current Results Status Stats for LUID: 3 Test Duration: 5 Pkt Length: > 1714 Test Direction Bi-Directional > > *RF Link Test* > VC Downlink Uplink Aggregate

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz PMP450i :: Any real numbers?

2016-09-23 Thread Dave
This is from one of ours Current Results Status Stats for LUID: 3 Test Duration: 5 Pkt Length: 1714 Test Direction Bi-Directional *RF Link Test* VC DownlinkUplink Aggregate Packet Transmit Packet Receive Actual Actual 19 26.13 Mbps 6.78 Mbps 32.92

[AFMUG] ePMP 2.4s on Regular H/V antennas

2016-09-23 Thread Paul McCall
I am curious how much the 45 slant helps on 2.4 in real world deployments. Looking for tower options on 90 degree sectors. Paul Paul McCall, President PDMNet, Inc. / Florida Broadband, Inc. 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 pa...@pdmnet.net

[AFMUG] 900 MHz PMP450i :: Any real numbers?

2016-09-23 Thread Bill Prince
We're looking at doing a forklift on a couple of 900 MHz FSK APs. What are real world throughput numbers that any of you pioneers are getting? We would probably want to do 10 MHz channels at first, and I would hope that we could get > 15 Mbps in download, but maybe I'm being too conservative? The

[AFMUG] is anybody still using standard rocket m5 or moved to AC line?

2016-09-23 Thread Tim Reichhart
as the subject states anybody using standard rockets m5 or have you all moved to AC line? If anybody is using standard rockets I got 5 brand new rockets m5 that I am trying to sell for 70 dollars each plus shipping. I also got Voip ATA's 4 cisco spa112 for 45 dollars each plus shipping and 4

Re: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna?

2016-09-23 Thread George Skorup
They have like eleventy billion $, I'm sure they can afford some spares. On 9/23/2016 2:41 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: Maybe it's easier for them to keep spares if every link is the same equipment. -- Original Message -- From: "Eric Kuhnke"

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP SSID's

2016-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
I think blank maybe? We use templates. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 23, 2016 3:40 PM, "Adam Moffett" wrote: > I noticed you can't put a 2nd SSID on the ePMP AP. > > Can the station be configured to

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP SSID's

2016-09-23 Thread George Skorup
Don't set any preferred APs on the SM. If the WPA key matches, it will register to the best AP it sees that meets reg criteria. At least that's how it's supposed to work. Sometimes it selects the worst AP it sees. Which is why we have the guys trained to use the preferred AP list. On

[AFMUG] NetEnforcer for sale

2016-09-23 Thread Yent, Timothy M
I still have the following items for sale. 1 Allot NetEnforcer AC-1440 Make offer 1 Allot NetEnforcer Bypass Make offer Tim

Re: [AFMUG] General Liability (Again)

2016-09-23 Thread Travis Johnson
The cost for that insurance is based on many things... type of business, annual revenues, previous claims, area of the country, etc. You should be able to call any insurance agent and get 5 quotes from 5 different companies within 1-2 days. Travis On 9/23/2016 11:41 AM, Sterling Jacobson

Re: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna?

2016-09-23 Thread Adam Moffett
Maybe it's easier for them to keep spares if every link is the same equipment. -- Original Message -- From: "Eric Kuhnke" To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: 9/23/2016 3:16:55 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna?

[AFMUG] ePMP SSID's

2016-09-23 Thread Adam Moffett
I noticed you can't put a 2nd SSID on the ePMP AP. Can the station be configured to connect to *any* SSID? I'm trying to make it easier on installers of various skill levels.

[AFMUG] 13.2.1 > 14.1.2

2016-09-23 Thread George Skorup
Just FYI, if you have 13.2.1 SMs on 14.1.2 APs (or I suppose 14.2/14.2.x), get the SMs updated ASAP. I have the entire 450 network on 14.1.2 now. We've been going through SMs like crazy. The guys are putting new out of box SMs on the network which are still coming loaded with 13.2.1. And for

Re: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna?

2016-09-23 Thread Eric Kuhnke
An 800 yard 11 GHz link? Really? If ever there was a scenario that called for a 60 or 80 GHz radio system...Or if they absolutely insisted that a part 101 licensed link was necessary, 23 GHz and 1' antennas. On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 12:08 PM, George Skorup wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna?

2016-09-23 Thread George Skorup
Yep, I do that frequently. Just point them up at the ceiling. I usually leave the power where it's coordinated and rarely see it hotter than -40 or so. A local chemical company coordinated an 800 yard (really!?) 11GHz link. Their coordinated Rx was like -25dBm. Uh, OK. I forget what it was,

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 upgrade

2016-09-23 Thread chuck
Mail-in coupon. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 1:06 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 upgrade When I did it it was 1. But still, coming from Mikrotik it seems very 1994. At least they wasn't a fax involved. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 upgrade

2016-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
When I did it it was 1. But still, coming from Mikrotik it seems very 1994. At least they wasn't a fax involved. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 3:00 PM, George Skorup wrote: > Oh,

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 upgrade

2016-09-23 Thread George Skorup
Oh, wouldn't it be nice if we could just go on Cambium support site and buy license keys right there? Or how about we contact our reseller and say this is what I want. And then it just shows up on the license key page on the support site. To be fair, it used to take a week or two (I think we

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Rocket 5AC Prism - GPS?

2016-09-23 Thread Peter Kranz
My experience is that with AC PRISM APs, the need for sync has been reduced, so I am happy they are working on backwards compatibility first. I’ve been able to pack more APs on my towers where I went all PRISM than I was able to with the previous generation. Peter Kranz

Re: [AFMUG] General Liability (Again)

2016-09-23 Thread chuck
There are lots of advantages to always being a corp when things go sideways. -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 12:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] General Liability (Again) I wasn't thinking in corporate terms either. You and the corp

Re: [AFMUG] General Liability (Again)

2016-09-23 Thread Adam Moffett
I wasn't thinking in corporate terms either. You and the corp are separate "people" so you probably really do need workmans comp on yourself in that case. -- Original Message -- From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: 9/23/2016 2:14:38 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] General Liability

Re: [AFMUG] General Liability (Again)

2016-09-23 Thread chuck
I laid myself off once in Illinois. About 6 months later the state wanted their money back. I told them I was an employee and the company had a downturn and had to lay everyone off. We argued for a year or three about it. I never did have to pay it back. -Original Message- From:

Re: [AFMUG] General Liability (Again)

2016-09-23 Thread chuck
You need a local agent. They are well practiced in spinning what you do to the underwriters to get you the best deal possible. -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 12:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] General Liability (Again) Well,

Re: [AFMUG] General Liability (Again)

2016-09-23 Thread Adam Moffett
"I can lay myself off and draw unemployment insurance too." You should do that and then take yourself to court to dispute it. -- Original Message -- From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: 9/23/2016 2:14:38 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] General Liability (Again) Personally, I don't

Re: [AFMUG] General Liability (Again)

2016-09-23 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Well, apparently the big insurers I have contacted today refuse to insure my small company because we install fiber. Even though the company isn't really installing the fiber, we technically subcontract 100 percent of that out. So now I can't even get general liability. I think I need some

Re: [AFMUG] General Liability (Again)

2016-09-23 Thread chuck
Personally, I don't draw a paycheck unless it is from a corporation I own. I pay workers comp. And general liability. I can lay myself off and draw unemployment insurance too. I wanna make sure I am covered for my own body, those of my family and my customer too. -Original Message-

Re: [AFMUG] General Liability (Again)

2016-09-23 Thread Adam Moffett
My understanding is you don't need workmans comp on yourself --until you do. That is to say: nothing says you have to insure yourself with workman's comp, but I once did cabling in a building where the landlord required proof of workmans comp for every worker on the site. Since my employer

[AFMUG] General Liability (Again)

2016-09-23 Thread Sterling Jacobson
How much should I be paying per month for general liability? I know this is highly subjective, but it is only one employee (me) a small office and really not much else. Should I have workmans comp on myself? I'm not really doing much that would endanger myself (anymore, tower climbing days are

Re: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna?

2016-09-23 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
you should be fine.. put them side by side next to or close to each other. don't point them at each other... and they come with power turned down 6db .. Just don't forget to set the power as per your coordination when you are mounting / before you are trying to align. :) Faisal

Re: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna?

2016-09-23 Thread chuck
Yes. Open waveguides are also known as “10 dBi antennas”. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 9:27 AM To: af Subject: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna? Can I safely setup an 11ghz radio (Mimosa B11, in this case) on the bench without

Re: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna?

2016-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
SAF recommended having a box of paper between the two units. I'd do that or similar, I used a concrete wall. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: > It's a

Re: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna?

2016-09-23 Thread Mathew Howard
It's a bit different, but it is a waveguide interface, so I'm thinking it should be fine. On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > SAF had the square thing that bolts right up to the antenna. Does the > Mimosa have the same? > > > Josh Luthman >

Re: [AFMUG] Answering Service

2016-09-23 Thread chuck
They do have a per incident support plan as well. From: Jeremy Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 7:37 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Answering Service ServerPlus is $3 a sub. That would be $36K a year, not $22K. YGTC was a third of $22K??? Sounds like I need to get a quote from

Re: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna?

2016-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
SAF had the square thing that bolts right up to the antenna. Does the Mimosa have the same? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: > Can I safely setup an

Re: [AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna?

2016-09-23 Thread Bill Prince
if it's a waveguide interface, so it should be fine. Have done that with several brands. bp On 9/23/2016 8:27 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: Can I safely setup an 11ghz radio (Mimosa B11, in this case) on the bench without attaching it to the dish, or is there a risk

[AFMUG] Is it safe to turn on an 11ghz radio without an antenna?

2016-09-23 Thread Mathew Howard
Can I safely setup an 11ghz radio (Mimosa B11, in this case) on the bench without attaching it to the dish, or is there a risk it'll damage the radio? I seem to remember being told it was fine to turn on our SAFs without dishes, and I'm assuming these would be the same, but that was a long time

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 upgrade

2016-09-23 Thread chuck
Back in the day, Motorola had something like 50 emails on this listserv. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 8:47 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 upgrade I love how the list responds faster than any vendor's customer service! Maybe every customer service

Re: [AFMUG] Answering Service

2016-09-23 Thread chuck
Asterisk From: Adam Moffett Sent: Friday, September 23, 2016 8:01 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Answering Service Yeah, per call is good if you have your office phone system menus set up in such a way as to minimize the number of calls that go there. I.E. off hours sales can go to

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 upgrade

2016-09-23 Thread Mathew Howard
Yup On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Wait that's smarter, you can just stock keys and apply it to any device > when ever you want...right? > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 upgrade

2016-09-23 Thread Mathew Howard
Yes, but if you don't have the GPS hardware, you wouldn't have a 10 SM limit to begin with ;-) definitely a good idea to always stock at least one key - I've had APs hit 10 SMs without realizing it a couple of times and a confused installer calling me to find out why the SM he just installed

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 upgrade

2016-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
Wait that's smarter, you can just stock keys and apply it to any device when ever you want...right? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 11:05 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: > Yes, but if you

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Rocket 5AC Prism - GPS?

2016-09-23 Thread Ben Moore
Thanks Joe! On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 8:54 AM, Joe Novak wrote: > Ben, > > I can only imagine. We are definitely waiting to see what happens. As it > stands it still looks like the Rocket AC PRISM will be a great drop in > upgrade to existing sites to help end users experiences

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Rocket 5AC Prism - GPS?

2016-09-23 Thread Joe Novak
Ben, I can only imagine. We are definitely waiting to see what happens. As it stands it still looks like the Rocket AC PRISM will be a great drop in upgrade to existing sites to help end users experiences on M gear.. with sync it would make it a absolute no questions asked path. Joe On Fri, Sep

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Rocket 5AC Prism - GPS?

2016-09-23 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, I hope they get sync working someday, but I'm definitely not going to buy anything with the expectation of it being added. If they came out with a 2.4ghz AP with working backwards compatibility and sync, I would happily order a couple hundred of them... On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 9:44 AM,

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Rocket 5AC Prism - GPS?

2016-09-23 Thread Ben Moore
Yes...We chose to do backwards compatibility first. There is a lot involved there...and as customers are reporting, there have been some great updates recently with this, which allows us to work on the next steps... On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 8:44 AM, Joe Novak wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 upgrade

2016-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
Most of us can afford 3+ monitors when they're $100 =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 10:47 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: > I love how the list responds faster than any vendor's customer

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 upgrade

2016-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
Just to be clear you need to have the GPS hardware. It's officially "Force 110 PTP". The cost of the 110 PTP + key = GPS AP. Unfortunately the key takes a business day to process so I would still stock one or more GPS AP. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 upgrade

2016-09-23 Thread Adam Moffett
I love how the list responds faster than any vendor's customer service! Maybe every customer service office needs to be staffed with 400 people who habitually check their email. -- Original Message -- From: "Mathew Howard" To: "af" Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Force 110 upgrade

2016-09-23 Thread Mathew Howard
Yes On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 9:44 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: > Can you buy an upgrade key to remove the 10 SM limit on an ePMP Force 110? > >

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Rocket 5AC Prism - GPS?

2016-09-23 Thread Joe Novak
Backwards Compatibility with Sync is more important to us. Working sync will bring UBNT back to the table for future deployments for us. On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 9:33 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: > I'm not sure that many people are waiting for sync to deploy UBNT gear at >

[AFMUG] Force 110 upgrade

2016-09-23 Thread Adam Moffett
Can you buy an upgrade key to remove the 10 SM limit on an ePMP Force 110?

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Rocket 5AC Prism - GPS?

2016-09-23 Thread Ben Moore
Yes, with 30-40m+ airmax devices shipped we felt like the mixed mode/backwards compatibility was most important. This allows for M series CPE's to be used and allow for transition to AC. As Adair mentioned we are seeing some great results in field with the new AC AP's and M series and AC series

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Rocket 5AC Prism - GPS?

2016-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
I agree. I've definitely come to believe Ubnt can't do sync. They can do a lot of things, but sync is not one that I will ever expect to see. Not including AF since it's PTP. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Sep 23, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] Answering Service

2016-09-23 Thread Tim Reichhart
I would not advise to use the any services from Wapak,Ohio (its called comnet) I used to work there the management is very rude to there employees. Tim -Original Message- From: "Josh Luthman" To: af@afmug.com Date: 09/22/16 08:57 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Rocket 5AC Prism - GPS?

2016-09-23 Thread Mathew Howard
I'm not sure that many people are waiting for sync to deploy UBNT gear at this point... I think most people have either moved on to other gear or designed their networks to work without sync. Backwards compatibility could very well be more important to more people at this point. On Fri, Sep 23,

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Rocket 5AC Prism - GPS?

2016-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
None of the people make any comments about Sync. Not even Robert when they announced their new product with the GPS sma connector. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Erich Kaiser

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Rocket 5AC Prism - GPS?

2016-09-23 Thread Adam Moffett
Backwards compatibility might have been more important to their existing user basewho don't have GPS now to begin with. -- Original Message -- From: "Erich Kaiser" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 9/23/2016 9:27:48 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Rocket 5AC

Re: [AFMUG] Answering Service

2016-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
I use it and any call I personally don't answer goes there 24/7. I don't take many but we don't get that many. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 23, 2016 10:01 AM, "Adam Moffett" wrote: > Yeah, per call

Re: [AFMUG] Answering Service

2016-09-23 Thread Adam Moffett
Yeah, per call is good if you have your office phone system menus set up in such a way as to minimize the number of calls that go there. I.E. off hours sales can go to voicemail, off hours billing calls get a reminder they can do online billing before you forward to call center, etc.

Re: [AFMUG] Answering Service

2016-09-23 Thread Josh Luthman
They also do per call... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sep 23, 2016 9:37 AM, "Jeremy" wrote: > ServerPlus is $3 a sub. That would be $36K a year, not $22K. YGTC was a > third of $22K??? Sounds like I

Re: [AFMUG] Answering Service

2016-09-23 Thread Jeremy
ServerPlus is $3 a sub. That would be $36K a year, not $22K. YGTC was a third of $22K??? Sounds like I need to get a quote from them as well. On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 7:57 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > last time i looked into this, for about 1k customers worth

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Rocket 5AC Prism - GPS?

2016-09-23 Thread Erich Kaiser
>From a sales perspective it is stupid, I know several guys waiting to deploy gear because everyone that has promised GPS does not have it working. They could be selling more gear rather than having people on the fence. Anyone from Ubiquiti out there that can chime in on a real explanation?

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Rocket 5AC Prism - GPS?

2016-09-23 Thread Mike Hammett
Agreed. They chose backwards compatibility before GPS. I would have probably done it the other way around, but what do I know, I'm not a radio engineer. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message -

Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti Rocket 5AC Prism - GPS?

2016-09-23 Thread Erich Kaiser
be nice for them to release a working version for AC now and then do a later release with backwards compatibility. Erich Kaiser North Central Tower er...@northcentraltower.com Office: 630-621-4804 Cell: 630-777-9291 On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 3:37 PM, Timothy Steele

Re: [AFMUG] community WISP

2016-09-23 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
Get him to Wispapalooza! Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com > On Sep 23, 2016, at 12:50 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > > Sounds fun. > > From: That One Guy /sarcasm > Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016

Re: [AFMUG] quick questions on the ePMP2000

2016-09-23 Thread Daniel White
Rory, ePMP 2000 is an AP upgrade only. Hypure is filtering technology at the AP and the beamforming is on the receive direction only. It is compatible with all ePMP 1000 or Force radios. Nothing changed on the protocol layer. There is no compatibility mode, there doesn't need to be one.

Re: [AFMUG] quick questions on the ePMP2000

2016-09-23 Thread Rory Conaway
I knew I could count on you for the highly technical answer I was looking for. I’m a little concerned how you are going to answer my third question though. ☺ Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2016 11:04 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] quick questions on the ePMP2000

2016-09-23 Thread Mathew Howard
Yes, yes, no. However, I haven't actually used a 2000 yet, aside from the one sitting on my desk. On Sep 23, 2016 1:03 AM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > i sure the fuck hope so cause im putting out 4 to replace them tomorrow > and i have been drinking tonight, a

Re: [AFMUG] quick questions on the ePMP2000

2016-09-23 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
i sure the fuck hope so cause im putting out 4 to replace them tomorrow and i have been drinking tonight, a hangover and a failure just will no mix. On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 12:14 AM, Rory Conaway wrote: > Is it compatible with ePMP1000? Can an ePMP2000 talk to ePMP1000