Re: [AFMUG] AF24 issues after switching to PowerInjector

2017-08-15 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Is there a possibility of a surge event? Is there a surge suppressor inline? It seems suspicious that the db difference is for the traditional power pins... which is why I asked about the jumpers. You could try grounding the shield since ubnt seems to like that for some reason. On Tue, Aug

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11x

2017-08-15 Thread Faisal Imtiaz
Suggestion.. Look at the Users guide from ubnt.com website for the AF11X. AF11x can work on a number of configurations.. Channels width of 5mhz to 56(80mhz)mhz SISO horizontal or vertical only channels MIMO both polarities (horizontal + Vertical), this configuration needs the additional

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 issues after switching to PowerInjector

2017-08-15 Thread chuck
FTTFTTFFTF (The answers to a biology quiz in High School) From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 4:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF24 issues after switching to PowerInjector Up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, t568a, t568b, t568a, t568b, select, start! On

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 issues after switching to PowerInjector

2017-08-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
Up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, t568a, t568b, t568a, t568b, select, start! On Aug 15, 2017 5:46 PM, "Kurt Fankhauser" wrote: Yes that was the first thing I did, the jumpers all alternate like up/down/up/down/up or its reverse of that, I forget On Tue,

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 issues after switching to PowerInjector

2017-08-15 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Yes that was the first thing I did, the jumpers all alternate like up/down/up/down/up or its reverse of that, I forget On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 6:30 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > Have you added the additional jumpers needed to power all 4 pairs? > > On Tue,

Re: [AFMUG] AF24 issues after switching to PowerInjector

2017-08-15 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Have you added the additional jumpers needed to power all 4 pairs? On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 3:00 PM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > I have had an AF24 up for over a year now with no issues while running the > factory supplied POE. I switched the AF24's all at the site over to

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11x

2017-08-15 Thread Mathew Howard
Yeah, true. I couldn't remember if adding the second polarity changed the licensing cost or not... if it doesn't then, it's well worth it, unless the channels aren't available. On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 5:12 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > Yeah, not too worried about the

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11x

2017-08-15 Thread Chuck McCown
Yeah, not too worried about the dupler/diplexer cost. If licensing is the same, why not. From: Jon Langeler Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 4:11 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF-11x I like using both polarities to maximize Rx sensitivity. Coordination is the same cost. Duplexers

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11x

2017-08-15 Thread Jon Langeler
I like using both polarities to maximize Rx sensitivity. Coordination is the same cost. Duplexers are also not that much more. Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Aug 15, 2017, at 5:59 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > > Max channel bandwidth is 56mhz, but you should

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11x

2017-08-15 Thread Chuck McCown
Be interesting to see what kind of channels will be available if I build this network. Got something 11 paths. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 3:59 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF-11x Max channel bandwidth is 56mhz, but you should easily be able to get 250Mbps out of

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11x

2017-08-15 Thread Mathew Howard
Max channel bandwidth is 56mhz, but you should easily be able to get 250Mbps out of a 40mhz channel... I'm not sure there's much point in going in narrower than that. Actually, doing SISO at a 56mhz channel might make more sense, that should get around 275mbps at 256qam (and a bit more if the link

Re: [AFMUG] OT RM Question

2017-08-15 Thread Adam Moffett
An old growth forest pixel in NY seems equal to a solid wooden wall. I imagine a forest pixel in Utah is a different thing. -- Original Message -- From: "Adam Moffett" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 8/15/2017 4:19:39 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT RM Question The lcv is just

Re: [AFMUG] OT RM Question

2017-08-15 Thread Adam Moffett
The lcv is just colored pixels. You have to go to Options -> Elevation data -> Land cover to set a height and density. There are default values, but they may or may not be sane. Every time I make a map, I review the landcover heights and maybe adjust. For example, if I'm looking at an

Re: [AFMUG] OT RM Question

2017-08-15 Thread Chuck McCown
Now that pisses me off. It is now working irrespective of map size. Guess it had to get used to the idea of landcover. Thanks. From: castarritt . Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 2:09 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT RM Question I also use maps a lot larger than my display

Re: [AFMUG] OT RM Question

2017-08-15 Thread Chuck McCown
I also have never had a problem with elevations showing up, but landcover sure did not want to. Do I have to set heights and densities if I downloaded the lcv files? I was hopeful that was automatic as I have no clue as to heights. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 1:59 PM

Re: [AFMUG] OT RM Question

2017-08-15 Thread castarritt .
I also use maps a lot larger than my display resolution. I bet your RM didn't incorporate the land cover data until it drew a new map. I would try drawing it again at the size you want.

Re: [AFMUG] OT RM Question

2017-08-15 Thread Adam Moffett
I routinely make maps wider than my display...never noticed anything like that. Don't forget to set your heights and densities. -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 8/15/2017 3:54:25 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT RM Question Interesting,

Re: [AFMUG] OT RM Question

2017-08-15 Thread Chuck McCown
Interesting, if you have your map view wider in pixels than your display, the land cover data will not show. I made my map smaller because the legend was not fully visible. Once I hit 1850 pixels wide, then the thing lit up with all kinds of colors. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday,

[AFMUG] OT RM Question

2017-08-15 Thread Chuck McCown
OK, finally found a place to get landcover data. http://rmd.neoknet.com/Landcover/ All the other links seem to not work. I got the files I needed manually extracted into the proper folder. It would download them but not save them. Perhaps because they were zip files not the native file. In

Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs

2017-08-15 Thread Sean Heskett
Yeah check the release notes but I think 15.1 was the first version to support SFP. 15.1.1 is the latest -Sean On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 11:35 AM Carl Peterson wrote: > "SFP kits (part numbers C65L008A and C65L009A) are required for > SFP port connectivity.

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11x

2017-08-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
airlink.ubnt.com Click on "AirFiber fx" line on the right side in the middle, then 11 GHz. Rest is self explanatory. On Aug 15, 2017 1:59 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > Link does not work. > > *From:* Josh Reynolds > *Sent:* Tuesday, August 15, 2017 12:56 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11x

2017-08-15 Thread Chuck McCown
Link does not work. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 12:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF-11x https://airline.ubnt.com is pretty damn good these days. Should help you figure out what you need easily. It does require you to log in with your account. On Aug

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11x

2017-08-15 Thread Chuck McCown
I will give it a look. Been working through radio mobile so far. From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 12:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF-11x https://airline.ubnt.com is pretty damn good these days. Should help you figure out what you need easily. It does

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11x

2017-08-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
https://airline.ubnt.com is pretty damn good these days. Should help you figure out what you need easily. It does require you to log in with your account. On Aug 15, 2017 1:34 PM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > What is a common channel BW? 40 MHz? I suppose it depends on >

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11x

2017-08-15 Thread Chuck McCown
What is a common channel BW? 40 MHz? I suppose it depends on congestion. I only need about 250 Mbps so lower order modulation may be desirable and perhaps narrower channels too. From: Jeremy Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 10:54 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] AF-11x Of course,

Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs

2017-08-15 Thread Carl Peterson
"SFP kits (part numbers C65L008A and C65L009A) are required for SFP port connectivity. SFP port is not supported in system release 15.0/15.0.0.1 ." Perhaps also not in 15.0.1 I'll try new firmware. On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Carl Peterson wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] 450M SFPs

2017-08-15 Thread Carl Peterson
Got the SFP kit and entitlement. Created the license and applied it, but I can't find anything in the config about the SFP port or any way to tell it to use the SFP port. Am I just being stupid and missing something? On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 5:54 PM, Carl Peterson

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11x

2017-08-15 Thread Jeremy
Of course, the exact configuration is based on your license and which frequencies it is supposed to operate on. The above configuration is just an example. On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Jeremy wrote: > They are like that, but 3x bigger. On top, the lid comes off

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11x

2017-08-15 Thread Jeremy
They are like that, but 3x bigger. On top, the lid comes off and the duplexers go beneath the cover. If your link is 'High' then you will want 'High' duplexers for both sides of the link (x4 total - two extra to purchase) - they will go in a configuration like 1-3-3-1 on one side and 3-1-1-3 on

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11x

2017-08-15 Thread Mathew Howard
They come with 1 duplexer (setup for SISO) - you need to buy the second one separately to do MIMO. You do need to figure out what frequencies you're going to be using before you buy the radios, since there are two different duplexers, depending on which half of the band you're in. You need one

Re: [AFMUG] Toughswitch/low cost ethernet forwarding failure reminder?

2017-08-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
I haven't heard any complaints honestly. They seem to be selling well. If there was a big problem, it would be all over the forum. On Aug 15, 2017 10:13 AM, wrote: > Dont sound like I should mount this to a tower … > > > > The package with SFP+/DC in and this housing looks good

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11x

2017-08-15 Thread Nate Burke
That is not the correct picture, that picture looks like an unlicensed AFx radio. On 8/15/2017 10:55 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Does this photo show an AF-11X? I have a different product in my lab sent to me from UBNT.

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11x

2017-08-15 Thread Nate Burke
You buy the radio which is the same hardware for all 11ghz, then the Diplexers for your licensed frequency, High or low. 1 Diplexer per end for a SISO link, 1 polarity. 2 Diplexers per end for a MIMO link, Dual Polarity. In the radio firmware you do not select different frequencies for the

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11x

2017-08-15 Thread Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
They can do SISO or MIMO They come with 1 duplexer (gives you SISO). You need to buy the other duplexer to get MIMO. Make sure you buy the right duplexer for your frequency range. The radio doesn't care. The duplexer does. Jim Bouse Owner Mobile IT Pro - Brazos WiFi 979-985-5912

Re: [AFMUG] AF-11x

2017-08-15 Thread Chuck McCown
Does this photo show an AF-11X? I have a different product in my lab sent to me from UBNT. http://www.wlanmall.com/ubiquiti-airfiber-11x-backhaul-radio-11ghz-1-2gbps-low-band-af-11fx-l/ From: Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2017 9:52 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] AF-11x Do they

[AFMUG] AF-11x

2017-08-15 Thread Chuck McCown
Do they all come with two N connectors or do you have to pay more for duplexers? Not quite sure how to buy or license. I guess you have to have two pairs of frequencies? Or at the very least, both polarizations on the same frequency? Trying to collect some budgetary estimates on what my

Re: [AFMUG] Dealing with a lease violation (5ghz)

2017-08-15 Thread Justin Wilson
Depends on the wording of the lease. This is why attorneys exist. LOL. I had a grain leg owner years ago build a new, taller leg right next to the one I was and rent space to a competitor. My lease did not specify the wording of “tower” enough so I was advised was all legit. From that point

Re: [AFMUG] Toughswitch/low cost ethernet forwarding failure reminder?

2017-08-15 Thread ste
Dont sound like I should mount this to a tower … The package with SFP+/DC in and this housing looks good but if it is not stable it is not usable. Maybe they need some time to get it sorted out. Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Josh Luthman Gesendet: Dienstag, 15.

Re: [AFMUG] Toughswitch/low cost ethernet forwarding failure reminder?

2017-08-15 Thread Josh Luthman
Mine failed to boot after a few days/weeks/months. I've read that people lost bandwidth through them, not sure how, but simply doing an iperf through your switch should meet those needs. Run a few office PCs through your switch and see if that works for a few days. Josh Luthman Office:

Re: [AFMUG] Toughswitch/low cost ethernet forwarding failure reminder?

2017-08-15 Thread ste
What about their new Edgeswitches. EP-S16 looks great for tower deployment. Is it stable/performant and able to power e.g. SAF Integra? Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Josh Reynolds Gesendet: Dienstag, 15. August 2017 16:17 An: af@afmug.com Betreff: Re: [AFMUG]

[AFMUG] OT Eclipse Weather

2017-08-15 Thread Chuck McCown
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2017/08/14/total-solar-eclipse-weather-forecast-as-of-aug-14/?utm_term=.9cb937d8fba4

Re: [AFMUG] Toughswitch/low cost ethernet forwarding failure reminder?

2017-08-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
I don't think I ever saw a 5 port failure. The 8 port models were very different, and did NOT like brownouts. The power system for them internally was poorly designed. Not the best SoC they could have picked either. That said, it was their first 2 switches out of the gate. On Aug 15, 2017 8:03

Re: [AFMUG] Toughswitch/low cost ethernet forwarding failure reminder?

2017-08-15 Thread Paul Stewart
We tested this extensively and experienced a lot of random issues with their switches …. Random forwarding issues was one but the larger issue was simply hardware failure. Inherited some of them through acquirement (a few) and then also in our wireless network they were the original “goto”

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Trade Shows

2017-08-15 Thread Mike Hammett
WISPA - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Adam Moffett" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, August 14, 2017 10:23:57 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Trade Shows How

Re: [AFMUG] Toughswitch/low cost ethernet forwarding failure reminder?

2017-08-15 Thread Josh Reynolds
Yes, that is a huge issue with them. It started the Great WISP Buffer Debate of $YEAR of which nothing ever came. One of the longest threads in UBNT Forum History. On Aug 15, 2017 6:51 AM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > Some were related to inadequate buffer sizes causing mixing 100

Re: [AFMUG] Toughswitch/low cost ethernet forwarding failure reminder?

2017-08-15 Thread Mike Hammett
Some were related to inadequate buffer sizes causing mixing 100 meg and 1 gig interfaces to have issues. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Forrest Christian (List Account)"